Vent Session

Summary

Podcast Summary: We Talk Back – Episode: Vent Session

Podcast Information:

• Title: We Talk Back
• Host/Author: The Black Effect and iHeartPodcasts
• Description: Hosted by two unapologetically Black women, TamBam and AJ Holiday, the podcast navigates through topics like sex, relationships, money, and offers raw, unfiltered comedic repartee. They provide personal advice and thought-provoking conversations aimed at guiding femininity to its ultimate greatness.
• Episode: Vent Session
• Release Date: April 17, 2025

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1. Personal Updates and Lifestyle Challenges

75 Hard Program Discussion

• TamBam and Mandy B delve into their experiences with the 75 Hard program, a rigorous self-discipline challenge.
• Mandy B: "I've been doing 75 hard and I'm on day eight." [04:10]
  • Program Requirements:
    • Two 45-minute workouts daily
    • Drinking a gallon of water each day
    • Reading 10 pages of a chosen book nightly
    • No alcohol consumption
• TamBam shares her struggles with consistency: "I couldn't find the time. For real." [04:40]
• A.J. Holiday (Not directly involved in this segment) emphasizes the importance of patience and dedication towards personal goals.

2. Hair Maintenance and Beauty Challenges

Synthetic vs. Natural Hair

• The conversation shifts to the impact of tariffs on Chinese imports, particularly affecting the hair industry.
• Mandy B expresses concern over the rising costs of synthetic hair bundles due to tariffs: "How much is these bundles gonna be in the coming months when these tariffs are applied?" [10:22]
• TamBam highlights her proactive approach: "I got a surplus coming in. I put my order in early." [10:53]
• Health Implications:
  • Mandy B shares a personal ordeal with synthetic hair causing an allergic reaction: "I paid $2,000 for a hairstyle… some type of chemical… my brain felt like it was squeezing through my pores." [37:48]
  • TamBam discusses the difficulty of maintaining natural hair while adhering to fitness routines, emphasizing the strain of synthetic hair on the scalp: "These people trying to kill us." [46:22]

3. Political and Economic Discussions

Tariffs and Manufacturing in America

• TamBam and Mandy B analyze the tariffs imposed by the U.S. on China, discussing the broader implications for Black-owned businesses and the manufacturing sector.
• TamBam: "Trump is trying to get business owners… to try and bring back that industrialization back to America." [14:10]
• Economic Sustainability:
  • The duo evaluates the balance between supporting domestic manufacturing and the realities of global competition.
  • Mandy B: "We have clients who are single moms… we're gonna have to do your hair now." [12:32]

4. Social Issues and Rants

Expectations and Reproach of Black Women

• TamBam voices her frustration over the perception of Black women as being above reproach: "Black women might be a little bit above reproach collectively." [35:42]
• Discussion on Misogynistic Comments:
  • They address 19 Keys' episode where he criticizes synthetic hair, highlighting the lack of support from within the community: "Why don't y'all congregate and talk to y'all brethren?" [35:42]
• Emotional and Mental Health:
  • TamBam recounts a traumatic experience with a controlling ex-partner: "I could feel him… I just knew he was in my shit." [39:07]
  • Mandy B shares her emotional struggles: "I start crying when men make sense." [38:35]

Health and Self-Care

• The hosts emphasize the importance of mental and physical health, discussing their routines and the challenges they face:
  • Mandy B: "I'm sick of trying to maintain beauty and go to the gym." [44:49]
  • They explore natural alternatives to beauty products, emphasizing the harmful effects of chemicals: "You're clogging up the lymph nodes… with the aluminum chemicals." [53:16]

5. Consumerism and Counterfeits

Designer Bags and Status Symbols

• TamBam and Mandy B critique the counterfeit designer bags market, exploring the blurred lines between authenticity and imitation.
• TamBam: "What's the lie and what's the truth? The lines are like so blurry right now." [60:41]
• Mandy B: "It's a status symbol… it's about the status that comes along with it, not necessarily the look of it." [61:47]
• They discuss the economic implications of counterfeit goods and the impact on both consumers and legitimate businesses:
  • TamBam: "All we make is now trying to destroy that market." [65:03]

6. Call to Action and Community Engagement

Seeking Interns and Listener Participation

• Toward the end of the episode, TamBam and Mandy B invite listeners to engage with them by sharing their rants and participating as interns:
  • Mandy B: "We're looking for interns, you guys. Email us at we talk back @gmail.com." [71:13]
• They encourage the community to share their experiences and join their growing team to enhance the podcast’s impact.

Notable Quotes:

• Mandy B on Synthetic Hair Issues: "I paid $2,000 for a hairstyle… some type of chemical… my brain felt like it was squeezing through my pores." [37:48]
• TamBam on Industrialization: "Trump is trying to get business owners… to try and bring back that industrialization back to America." [14:10]
• Mandy B on Status Symbols: "It's a status symbol… it's about the status that comes along with it, not necessarily the look of it." [61:47]
• TamBam on Collective Strength: "Black women might be a little bit above reproach collectively." [35:42]

Conclusions and Insights:

• We Talk Back episode "Vent Session" offers an unfiltered look into the lives of Black women navigating personal challenges, societal expectations, and economic pressures.
• The hosts emphasize the importance of self-care, community support, and economic empowerment, particularly within the context of Black-owned businesses.
• They highlight the intersecting issues of health, beauty standards, and political policies, advocating for greater self-sufficiency and resilience.
• By sharing their personal stories and frustrations, TamBam and Mandy B create a relatable and supportive space for their listeners, encouraging active participation and community building.

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For more episodes and to join the conversation, follow TamBam and AJ Holiday on Instagram [@kickingtail and @tam_bam]. Engage with the podcast by sending your rants to we talk back [e-mail].

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[Tam Bam]

Welcome to We Talk Back, where we.

[A.J. Holiday]

Encourage you to hustle hard, laugh louder.

[Tam Bam]

And always keep it cute. So grab your coffee cocktail and crown. Cause it's about to go down. Talk to em.

[Mandy B]

We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion who talk back.

[Tam Bam]

What's up, y'all?

[A.J. Holiday]

It's your girl, A.J.

[Tam Bam]

Holiday. What's up, Tam Bam?

[Mandy B]

Hey, y'all, it's me. I love y'all so much. I love you, A.J. how you doing?

[Tam Bam]

I love you more and I love you back. I'm good today. My energy a little bit low even after many cups of coffee, but I'm making it through Pharrell.

[Mandy B]

It's one of them days.

[Tam Bam]

It is one of them days.

[Mandy B]

I've been doing 75 hard and I'm on day eight.

[Tam Bam]

What does that mean?

[Mandy B]

It's a workout program. Well, it's not necessarily a workout program because they don't give you no workouts to do, but what you got to do is two 45 minute workouts a day. Drink a gallon of water every day. You got to pick a book and read 10 pages of that book every night. And you got to. Oh, and no alcohol. Look.

[Tam Bam]

That's the easiest one for me. What else?

[Mandy B]

That's it.

[Tam Bam]

Oh, that's easy. I do be trying to read at night.

[Mandy B]

Two 45 minute workouts a day has not been easy for me, but I.

[Tam Bam]

I feel like when I. Okay, I have not work out worked out in about three weeks. First of all, not I did this weekend. Like when I say workout, I mean like every day, right? Some type of something. I haven't been consistent the last couple weeks because I couldn't find the time. For real. I got it. But that's regular, right? Because I used to.

[Mandy B]

No, this is hard. That's why I found 75 hard.

[Tam Bam]

But when I go to the gym, I do 45 minutes of cardio and 45 minutes of, like, calisthenics. Or weights already, like, just in one setting, though. I don't split it up.

[Mandy B]

Well, I mean, I guess you could do that if you wanted to do it that way, but seven days a week, no days off.

[Tam Bam]

Oh, seven days a week.

[Mandy B]

75 days straight.

[Tam Bam]

Seven days a week for 75 days straight? Yes, man, that's too much time. That's three months almost, right?

[Mandy B]

Yeah, girl. No, it's like two and a half months. But the only. The reason why I wanted to do it is because my friend Deanna did it. And, I mean, she lost £15, but. All right. She also, like, because you. One of the workouts is supposed to be outside. So you do a 45 minutes outside and 45 minutes. You could do both outside if you want, but one of them is supposed to be outside, you know? But like, when it was raining and it was cold, I didn't go outside.

[Tam Bam]

I was like, what? Walking, Running, walking.

[Mandy B]

Whatever you like, you know, whatever you want the workout to be. And I'm on day eight and the hardest part for me has been so getting those workouts in on the weekend has, like, my busy days has proven kind of difficult. I was in the gym Saturday night after a party at 11:30, trying to get it in before 12:00.

[Tam Bam]

You'll be dedicated when you locked in. I'd be like, both with life. Okay, I gotta get like you. Y'all Tammy ass will be doing some donkey kicks randomly somewhere. I got video to prove it. That gonna get it in when she lock in.

[Mandy B]

But me, okay, so, yeah, I'm super locked in right now. But that's. That's all. But the hardest part is the no alcohol.

[Tam Bam]

That. That would be like, I don't drink like that. So that's the easiest part for me.

[Mandy B]

I was at a party, everybody, and it seems like when you tell people you're not drinking, everybody's like, challenge accepted. Now they think it's their personal challenge to get you to drink, you know, like just one shot. Damn. You can't do one shot for me? You can't do one shot with me? No, I can't do one shot with you. So don't ask me until June, But I feel good. I'm all happy.

[Tam Bam]

And I like saying no. I don't got no problem telling people no.

[Mandy B]

Pass me some weed. Ain't no 75 heart don't say nothing about weed, right?

[Tam Bam]

Or gummy something.

[Mandy B]

Right? I can have that too. But then there's no sugar.

[Tam Bam]

So no sugar for 75 days. Now that might be my Struggle area as well.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, me too.

[Tam Bam]

I kind of got to do something like that right now because I just got to kick, like, the bread, the sugar, that's like my main problems, issues in life. And I feel like I've been doing really well with no bread candies and shit.

[Mandy B]

Espresso martini. Hate to see me coming.

[Tam Bam]

Okay, Shane, we gonna get our life, but.

[Mandy B]

Yeah. What you do this weekend?

[Tam Bam]

What did I do this weekend? Do I did. Did I do anything? I didn't do anything spectacular this weekend. I went to Costco. I went to TJ Maxx, I went to Joanne Fabric. They're having a closeout sale. I bought a lot of beads because I'm about to make me my waist beads again. I used to wear. I'll make you some because I want gold.

[Mandy B]

You made me gold ones.

[Tam Bam]

Did I get some gold beads? I might have. I gotta look and see. I bought like $50 worth of bunch of like. Because that was $50 with 70 off is a whole lot of. But I feel like when I was making and use it and using my waist beads consistently like that really make you push away from the table. For real. If you actually get them to where, like, tight on your stomach, you're gonna stop eating. Yeah. So I gotta get back to my waist beads. And you look sexy with them on. You know what I'm saying?

[Mandy B]

They are sexy.

[Tam Bam]

Is that all I did this weekend? That's it, girl. I ain't do.

[Mandy B]

It was my godson's second birthday. Oh, I know. We had baby two already.

[Tam Bam]

What the.

[Mandy B]

That baby is two already. Ain't that crazy? That's. I know. And he's so sweet. He's so, like. I don't know, like my goddaughter. She's sweet and she's so cute and she's so girly. Right? But he is, like, so lovable. Like, he always be like, I love you and want to kiss when he see you and stuff like that and want to hug. I love them babies, man. The babies make me. Then the babies I didn't have, you know, so that was. And I got his name put on the back of my shirt. Like, so it was a basketball theme party. And I got like this little bulls crop top. And then I had his name and put two on the back, like a. Back like a jersey.

[Tam Bam]

It was so cute.

[Mandy B]

But we had fun. We had a good time. And it turned into an adult party. You know how that goes. Yep. So. And I did not drink. And I did not drink the whole time. I'm so Proud of me because you know I can't do that. I'll be the main one. Like shots everybody for the two year old.

[Tam Bam]

He was one of the kids this weekend.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, I was at the kitty table, not drinking. Let's get into sins.

[Tam Bam]

There's a lot going on in the world of politics and just America. So people are so concerned about these tariffs. What do you think about the tariffs that are being imposed on other nations? I understand them. What's your take on them?

[Mandy B]

I mean, I get it. I feel like, you know, some of the stuff I'm looking at it like, why we paying y'all so much and y'all ain't paying us shit?

[Tam Bam]

You know, that's Trump's point. So that's one of the points.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, I'm okay with that. But however, comma, I'm very concerned about the tariffs between China and America because I work in the industry. I mean a lot, a lot of us, we rely heavily on Chinese imports. And with the hair business and my weave girlies, how much is these bundles gonna be in the coming months when these tariffs are applied? You know, y'all can hit me up.

[Tam Bam]

I got a surplus coming in. I put my order in early. I'm have a surplus. Okay, just okay. I'm the only bitch with bundles during a zombie.

[Mandy B]

Everybody don't want Indian hair though.

[Tam Bam]

You, that's the best hair. Like, okay. I visited China when I was looking to start holiday here, which will happen one of these days. I went to China and I saw these people smoke cigarettes around your hair. That shit is on the floor, on the ground. The vendor I use For India, we FaceTime. Like I could see their facility, you know what I'm saying? I haven't actually went to India to visit, but I went and went to several places in China. So I get my frontals and from a place I visited in China. But other than that, that should be trash anyway. It really do be trash and a lot of it is, I don't know.

[Mandy B]

But see, here's the thing. Yeah, that's true, but everybody can't afford six and seven hundred dollar bundles, you know.

[Tam Bam]

Well, that's the amount that we'll consider the, the read like, okay, the retailer, the retailers are the ones that's causing your bundles to be 2, $300. And imagine not how much they're paying.

[Mandy B]

How much these other vendors are going to go up knowing that these Chinese imports are this much. So now y'all really gotta come to us. We're gonna take the price up. We just Gonna have to see how it play. But you know, everybody, like, I definitely service the girl who has kids, who is a single mom, who doesn't have that kind of money to invest in a hairstyle. You know, I have those clients, and I care about them. And, girl, we're gonna have to do your hair now. Who want to silk press during the summer, then you're gonna have to get braids. And then, guess what? I don't do those.

[Tam Bam]

So on a grand scheme of things, right, our hair should be the least of our worries when it comes to this thing, right?

[Mandy B]

I do take into account for me, that's. That's how I earn my money. So that can't be the least of the words for me, and it should not be the least of the words for y'all, because I need y'all to still come.

[Tam Bam]

I take into consideration that, right? And I also think about how Asian restaurants, Asian hair stores, and how they've always been implanted in the black communities. And they send. They don't invest in the communities that they are in and the people that they service and who frequent their establishments, and they send out their money home. You know what I'm saying? That's a problem, too. If we want to start a hair company, they're going to already charge if we not. Excuse me. Not a hair company. If we want to start a beauty supply store. Black people have always been trying to start beauty supply stores, and they're hardly ever successful because they have a monopoly on that industry. What if we actually started manufacturing some of that stuff ourselves over here? You see what I'm saying? This is what Trump is trying to get. Business owners, big, small companies, little companies, big corporations to try and bring back that. That. That industrialization back to America, as opposed to us always having to go outside of our country for everything. Because there was a time where America, things were made. You would see things made in America. Now everything is made in China, made in Vietnam, made in Taiwan. You see what I'm saying? So he wants to try to bring that back to America. And this is kind of how you.

[Mandy B]

Go working in places, though. Americans don't want to work in them places. Americans are not trying to work in no factory.

[Tam Bam]

People work in factories.

[Mandy B]

Now.

[Tam Bam]

What do we.

[Chamberlain University]

What do we say?

[Mandy B]

I'm saying, but most Americans. Most Americans ain't trying to be factory workers, girl.

[Tam Bam]

I feel like, yes, we are. I feel like a lot of people would do those jobs, but they were. They think about Detroit, right? Think about places like India. What's it Where Michael Jackson was born at Gary, Indiana. Have you ever been to Gary?

[Mandy B]

Why would I go there?

[Tam Bam]

Gary? I mean, I've been.

[Mandy B]

Because I went to Chicago.

[Tam Bam]

I went to go visit Michael Jackson's home that he grew up in in Gary, Indiana.

[Mandy B]

You went specifically for that?

[Tam Bam]

I went to Chicago and we caught the train. It's only like 20 minutes to Gary.

[Mandy B]

No shade to Gary, folks, if y'all listening. I'm just saying, it ain't like I just, you know, so we.

[Tam Bam]

So it used to be a booming city for black people in particular. Because when we talk about black jobs, I mean, it's just. Let's just be honest. Those are some of the things that black people have been doing in America. And black people were feeding their families for a very long time on the car industry, all these different industries that eventually got taken from this country and sent overseas, right? So we were doing it at one point. We don't do it because somebody else is doing it for us. If we no longer have that option, things gonna have to change. I don't see a problem with tax in Canada. Canada whole existence depends on America. If we tax them more on the terror, on the things that they're sending here, that does. It doesn't just hurt America, it really hurts their industry. And all Trump is trying to do is get people to stop having drugs coming to the country. That's really how this started. So this is like retaliation because y'all not helping us manage.

[Mandy B]

Feeling like America is trying to absorb. Canada.

[Tam Bam]

Got natural resources as well, you know what I'm saying? But we are dealing with. We are living in a country where these people are conquerors. We dealing with the worst of the worst. They've been expelled from Europe into America fucking years ago. This is what we dealing with. But I need people to realize this is our country too. This is our country. Like, we gotta support it. We can't be online cheering the fucking president of China on. Like, that shit is weird to me. We live here. This is where our children are. You know what I'm saying? We. You gotta still support your country on some things, okay? I don't support this country on the war in Palestine. I don't support that. I don't like that. It's children being murdered. And I don't feel like enough people are able to even talk about it without being called anti Semitic. So that is weird as hell to me. That's the only thing I don't support but rebuilding America. I'm for that.

[Mandy B]

If America can be great for the first time I'm with it, you know, I'm always with that, but I am not with these bundles going up, y'all.

[Tam Bam]

Hit me up.

[Mandy B]

Hit me.

[Tam Bam]

I got straight curly wave going on to get holiday hair popping. Zombie apocalypse happen. I got the bundles. We're gonna be the only ones that weave still. Hair still popping.

[Mandy B]

Right?

[Tam Bam]

What else we got going on? Yes. That was our politic political rant for a quick second.

[Mandy B]

So Gayle King took her ass to space, y'all. I don't know if y'all saw that, but there was a celebrity launch with the Blue Origin launch with Gayle King and Katy Perry, and there was a list of other celebrity women who went up into space and then came right back down. And there's a video that's going viral of Gail looking very conflicted about taking her ass up in that sky. And then when she makes it back down, she kisses the ground, y'all. That. And then there's also a video where she's like, look at the moon. Look, look, look, look. Like. Sounding like very like. Like a childlike. You know, that childlike innocence when you're seeing something for the first time. So I thought that was cool. And this company, Blue Origin, so I did. I looked up some on them. So it says about Blue Origin, it's the generation's job to build a road to space so the future generations can unleash their creativity. And it says, we're building a road to space for the benefit of Earth. And that is a quote by. The first one was a quote by Jeff Bezos. He has a foot in this or a hand in this, or Jeff.

[Tam Bam]

I think he. He chartered the last flight. Outer space. Right. So personally, I don't think that they are getting past the Orion's Belt when they go into space. I don't think that they're actually going outside of this atmosphere, because I do believe there's a dome. Y'all believe in the Bible. They talk about it in the Bible. I do believe that there's a dome that we haven't been able to penetrate. So they probably are going as far as that dome will allow them to. I don't think they're actually going into space and then just coming right back down.

[Mandy B]

Well, it says, among those who have previously boarded the new Shepherd's Capsule, ticket first sold for 28 million for the very first flight up into space was 28 million per ticket, y'all. So I won't go for a while. I want to go. I'll do that. And I'll get on that and go up there. But I'm gonna wait till the ticket price go down a little bit. A lot of it.

[Tam Bam]

By the time I get up there, it's gonna be, like, detrimental, like, for everybody to go because Earth is over. That's when we'll get up.

[Mandy B]

As soon as they put a Starbucks. Get it? Starbucks.

[Tam Bam]

You're so foolish.

[Mandy B]

That's when I'm gonna be there.

[Tam Bam]

Shame. Yeah. I don't know, child. I just feel like they trying to. It's a. To me, it's all a big. It's a big sham. But we've ever been to the moon.

[Mandy B]

Can anything ever be what it is, though?

[Tam Bam]

No, it can't be, because I know for sure that Ronald. Which president was in when they went to the moon before Ford?

[Mandy B]

No, they had him calling on a.

[Tam Bam]

Landline phone to the rocket. That's impossible. And we know that. The CIA.

[Mandy B]

Who was it?

[Tam Bam]

I can't remember. But I remember the video of him calling.

[Mandy B]

They played in our face with it.

[Tam Bam]

That's what I'm. And they still play. We get the same image of the moon all the time. Like, why can't we get an image that looks like. It looks like when we take a picture from Earth looking at the moon, it's like always the same image. Like, who's taking that picture? Who the fuck was taking the camera? Who was taking pictures of the person on the moon? Who was behind the camera?

[Mandy B]

It was Nixon.

[Tam Bam]

Okay, so you're right. So Nixon called.

[Mandy B]

Right.

[Tam Bam]

But then think about the man walking on the moon putting the flag up. Who recorded that video if he was the only person up there?

[Mandy B]

Right.

[Tam Bam]

It's all done in a Hollywood studio. This is how I feel. So I don't know where they're going. I feel like outer space is actually over there as opposed to up there.

[Mandy B]

Neil Armstrong didn't land on shit is what you're saying. He landed on Hollywood studio.

[Tam Bam]

Yes.

[Mandy B]

You know what that is? Some. With all the technology we have now and thinking about how things were. This was what, 19 forever ago? Yeah. Between 1969 and 1974. Because that's when Nixon was in office. Y'all did not have the technology to have that phone call.

[Tam Bam]

I know that, but not from a landline. Anyway. You see what I'm saying? Like, I do believe that they have always had some technology, but they choose when they like cell phones. Like, they choose when they're going to give it release the general public.

[Mandy B]

Right.

[Tam Bam]

A lot of things they been had access to because our ancestors from the future, I like to call them. Left that stuff here. Right. So it's just like. It's from the landline. You wilding. And we. You really, really wilding. It was a regular office phone. More A little beige low office phone. I don't believe it.

[Mandy B]

Hello, Neil, how's it feel up there?

[Tam Bam]

You need more people?

[Mandy B]

Go ahead. What happened?

[Tam Bam]

Else.

[Mandy B]

What else happened?

[Tam Bam]

So, okay, I saw this article and I just. Because my homegirl's having a baby, went to the baby shower and several other old bitches at the baby shower are also expecting. So exciting. So an article came out. It says for the first time ever, women over 40 are having more babies than teens. The article goes on, it says for the first time in the United States, the number of births to women aged 40 and over has surpassed those to teenagers. This shift reflects a significant decline in teen birth rates alongside an increase in births among older women. According to the national center for health statistics, in 2023, women aged 40 and above accounted for 4.1% of births, while teenagers accounted for 4%. This trend is attributed to various factors, including advancements in fertility treatments, greater financial stability, and evolving societal norms that support delayed parenthood. It says, conversely, the decline in teen births is linked to improved access to contraception and comprehensive sex education. And my hypothesis is the bitches who had abortions as teenagers are now having babies. We got punished for like 20 years. And now God like, okay, bitch, you up next?

[Mandy B]

All right, now it's your turn because.

[Tam Bam]

I sent you1 25 years ago and your ass sent it back.

[Mandy B]

Still got. Already had kids. They just having more in their 40s.

[Tam Bam]

That's all that part, a lot of them. So that's exciting, you know what I'm saying? I do think that the younger girls, like, yeah, you still have teen pregnancy and stuff like that, but some of them, some of these girls are a lot more smarter, you know what I'm saying? Have a little bit more self awareness. They just ain't with that shit being tied down with some dude's baby, you know, so they're making better choices, I.

[Mandy B]

Believe, with their bodies. Yeah. And listen, how long plan B been out?

[Tam Bam]

All right, that is over the counter now. Yeah, so plan B wasn't always over the counter. So within the last 10 years, I think it's been. So that might play a big, easily.

[Mandy B]

Accessible $50, you know, you. You can come up with a 50 quick, you know, so if you can't.

[Tam Bam]

Come up with a 50, you should not be having sex.

[Mandy B]

And if. Yeah, but. And it's still, like, literally on the shelf. If you can't come up with the 50, you could literally steal that out of store.

[Tam Bam]

Those things usually be in the cases, though, like the little security boxes. You gonna take them?

[Mandy B]

You can run with that if it really gets serious, right?

[Tam Bam]

This is life. Life and death. Yeah. But, yeah, that. This is actually a very. This is a good thing. This is a good thing.

[Mandy B]

This is an excellent thing.

[Tam Bam]

It says our generation of women were healthy. You know, you got to be healthy to still be having a cycle, having babies. Like, we're healthy. That means we might live even longer.

[Mandy B]

I wish they. I feel like we're staying younger longer. I think about my parents and our. Our parents, they was not outside. Like, how we still outside. I don't think, like, how we care about, you know, staying youthful and staying, you know, in good shape. And I don't think our parents were as much concerned with that as we are.

[Tam Bam]

I know my mom was, but she just didn't really instill in us, like, how important health was. Because my mommy literally used to work out with me as the. The weights. Like, I remember her doing, like, like, sit ups and, and. And lifting me up in the air. Like, she would use me to work out. And she was always smaller than me and my sisters. My mom didn't gain weight, so she probably was, like, in her 50s. Food change is just not the same. So all, you know, the environmental things cause her to probably gain weight. But for the most part, she's always been pretty health conscious. She just didn't tell us that we needed to be. Like, we was definitely raised on McDonald's.

[Mandy B]

But here's the thing. Telling y'all, y'all, if y'all witnessing, you don't need to be told. Like, it should be just stuff that you. If you're seeing it done, you should.

[Tam Bam]

No, like, if you're eating Lean Cuisine and we're eating Big Macs, like my. I remember my oldest sister. I always be. I probably be pissing him off because I always feel like the woman is just responsible for the nourishment of the family. Like, it's just our responsibility. Like, we be mad having to worry about this nigga's stomach and ours. It's just our responsibility. So they gonna eat however we prepare things. And I remember my sister, like, being on a diet and she was eating real healthy, but simultaneously cooking, like, fried chicken and like, that for her family. Like, nah, they supposed to eat how you eat so everybody could be healthy together. You lead the pack. You know what I'm saying when it comes to, like, health.

[Mandy B]

So, yeah, that used to piss me off with my ex boyfriend. Like, I would cook. He would let the kids eat cereal for dinner instead of what I cooked. And that was paint, like, your food. Here's the thing, It'd be something that they've eaten before, you know, so you liked it the last time, but now you don't want it this time.

[Tam Bam]

So you know what they want.

[Mandy B]

He let them eat what they want. But guess what? When he go to work the next day, they'd be like, what's for breakfast? And I'll be like, dinner?

[Tam Bam]

You ain't cook nothing for breakfast.

[Mandy B]

You gonna eat what I cooked last night. You ate the breakfast for dinner, so now eat the dinner for breakfast. You gonna eat this food. Either one way or another, you're gonna have it. And your daddy ain't here to tell you that you can have more cereal. Ain't no more cereal. You ate it.

[Tam Bam]

It used to be the opposite with my ex. Kids like them used to really wake me up and be like, aj, like, what we gonna eat? I'm like, didn't y'all just have cereal? But we want your breakfast. They get up and like, they want me to cook, like, a real meal, like, daddy done me. They. Have you ever looked around at your.

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[Tam Bam]

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[Tam Bam]

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[Tam Bam]

I see Cool ass cereal.

[Mandy B]

No, you're Going to eat this food because you ate it before, but you just want to eat cinnamon toast crunch instead of eating some real food. No, you're not going. Oh, he'll let you do that, but you're not going to have it for breakfast too. You're going to eat this food, right?

[Tam Bam]

Shame.

[Mandy B]

Yeah. I don't have them problems no more.

[Tam Bam]

So, like this is just. Just a little add in right quick. Y'all seen Cash doll, like, clean her nose with that 20 bill? You seen that, Tammy?

[Mandy B]

I did. And you know what? I love me some Cash doll. Like, I really love me some Cash doll. But that was a weird flex because not only because it was, I mean, Cash dog, we know you got money, baby. We know you cast all. We see it. So sticking that dirty 20 bill up your nose was just classless. I'm gonna say that about my girl, but I will say this classless like.

[Tam Bam]

Okay, this will lead into. This is gonna lead into a future conversation about whether or not black women can be told when they doing some wax or not. You know what I'm saying? It was corny. It was corny. We can't say that.

[Mandy B]

We can say that it was, it was nasty because you gotta think about all the places that money goes. You know, that money could have been like in somebody's butt crack in a strip club. It could have been 20s covet, somebody sick, could have been, you know, had, you know, somebody went to the hospital, the doctor to the pharmacy to pay for they val tracks. Is that herpes?

[Tam Bam]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

Having a breakout. And they had just scratched their cootie and then grabbed the 20 to pay for their, you know, you don't know. But that's just how I think of money. It's filthy.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, like kids put nickels and in their mouth. I'm like putting money people holding money in their mouth right quick to do something like, yeah, it's filthy.

[Mandy B]

That's nasty.

[Tam Bam]

If you put that in a microscope, I'm pretty sure it's all type of stuff moving around, moving on.

[Mandy B]

And then you stick it up your.

[Tam Bam]

Nose, which goes straight to your brain, like, girl, what are we doing? You know, like when people say stuff like, you know, real wealth is quiet and the other, the, the other is real loud and in your face. That is a real thing, right? There will be signs.

[Mandy B]

There will be.

[Tam Bam]

There won't be putting no $20 in my nose, right?

[Mandy B]

Never.

[Tam Bam]

What? At a game?

[Mandy B]

What?

[Tam Bam]

That's what you thought to do? Weird flex.

[Mandy B]

Anyway, we love you cash with that.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, I love cash dogs I just.

[Mandy B]

Want you to be healthy, girlfriend. All right, y'all, when we come back from this break, we're going to get into the things that we need to vent about. Just a couple of things that's really grinding our gears right now. We'll be right back.

[Tam Bam]

All right, y'all, we're back. And this is sort of a rant session for. We talk back this week. We just gonna talk shit about all the things that's bothering us, things we can't stand, things we tired of seeing, things we tired of talking about all the things.

[Mandy B]

What's getting on your nerves?

[Tam Bam]

Okay, Rant number one. Okay. I don't want black women to get mad at me because I am also guilty of this thing, right? But does it not seem like black women might be a little bit. Or act like we may be a little bit above reproach collectively? Like, when it's a group of us, like, we really be on some can't nobody tell us shit. So Recently I saw 19 Keys had an episode and he had a black woman as a guest on there. And his. I didn't watch the episode yet. I only saw the couple minute clip on Instagram. And he basically, like, the caption was, black women need to stop wearing synthetic hair. So he's talking about the braids. And again, he had a woman on the show, you know, engaged in this conversation as well. And we know, like, this is synthetic hair, like the synthetic fibers, polyester, the same shit most of our clothes is made of. So that. That was my only comment on the post. And all I said was, I agree, but the clothes is made of polyester, too. So what are we going to do about that? You know what I'm saying? The leggings, these niggas, y'all shirts, everything, y'all do rags, it's all polyester. It's all fake materials. But the black women in the comments was, niggas need to stop telling us what to do. And don't nobody be telling y'all what to do. You know, I am. I am guilty of saying that, you know, black women, we have lunches, brunches, and conferences to talk about all our shit. So no, we don't. And podcast. Okay, exactly. So, no, we don't need niggas also then telling us what to do. Why don't y'all congregate and talk to y'all brethren? You know, so I'm guilty of saying that shit, too. But in this particular instance, he wasn't even saying human hair. He didn't say weave he didn't say, y'all bitches need to stop wearing frontals. None of that shit he was saying. Talking about synthetic hair in particular, which we know most of the beauty industry is killing black women, right?

[Mandy B]

That part. Let me tell you something. I paid $2,000 for a hairstyle, only to have to go home and pour apple cider vinegar over my head and stand in the shower and cry. Because the synthetic. It was supposed to be all human hair. That's what I paid for. But she wrapped my loc at the top with synthetic hair. And I had an allergic reaction. Something in that hair, some kind of chemical that was on that hair. It felt like fire ants was on my head. I was so miserable. So I. Synthetic hair that I'm with 19 keys. Don't put that in your head. It is toxic. My brain felt like it was squeezing through my pores. So I agree with him. But we. We are. Anytime I'm in an argument with a man, he start making sense.

[Tam Bam]

My chest start hurting. Why are you talking to me like that? Automatic.

[Mandy B]

Immediately I start crying.

[Tam Bam]

Let me find out. There's black women tears. Don't nobody give a. When we cry for real.

[Mandy B]

That only work on the police. For me, for some reason, when it's my nigga, he know better, he be like, girl, shut the fuck up. Cause I'm right. Now you crying.

[Tam Bam]

I'm guilty.

[Mandy B]

I went to the emergency room.

[Tam Bam]

My chest hurt. I'm guilty, girl. I remember when my fucking ex, like, he asked me to make him a sandwich. So I go downstairs, and as soon as my foot stepped into the kitchen, I said, that nigga going through my cell phone. Like I could feel him. Like, I almost could see him from downstairs in my phone. Bitch, when I can't. Yes, he asked me to do that just so he can get to my phone. Girl, when I. When I got back upstairs, I didn't. He was acting in there like he was cool, but I could feel his energy shift. That nigga energy sickening. And I said, you found what you was looking for? Like, he didn't even have my phone in his hand at the time. I just knew he was in my shit, girl. He started wilding out, and then I just started crying.

[Mandy B]

I miss my grandma.

[Tam Bam]

Go talk to the lady. I already talked to the lady. And she told you to get over that, right? You and my. The lady on my side. The lady on my side. The black lady, she stole on my side.

[Mandy B]

We can be collectively beyond reproach. And Alar, I. I attribute that to us having to be raised to be so strong. Have we not been raised to be like, that's you when you had that baby. That's your baby. All right? You need to take care of yourself because. Because if that man leave you, you're gonna have to do it by yourself. So you got to be able to do this, and you got to be able to do that, and you need to be able to understand this, and you need to learn how to change your tire, and you need to learn how to take out the trash. You need to learn how to do all these. We don't get to. We haven't been raised to be soft.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah. Because, I mean, historically, we have had a lot of disrespect. We. We are never put at the top when we are at the top, and we know that. Right. So sometimes we might move in that way. I feel like when. When. And this might come off as feminist. I'm not a feminist, but I do believe that the patriarch is probably about to be over, and I think the matriarch has always been in place. We just been doing it from the bedroom. And I think when we start coming to the forefront and telling people how shit is and how it is going to be to make things better, it's kind of threatening to the patriarch. So I think when we do move, like, in droves, it could come off intimidating, you know what I'm saying? Like, y'all can't. You can't tell these bitches nothing. You know? Meanwhile, we got all the advice for everybody else. But even when somebody's trying to tell us something that's going to help us, we're telling them to shut the hell up.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, I don't. It's so crazy, because I always say, like, I want somebody to come in and be a leader. I'm tired of being the leader. I want someone else to captain the ship. But am I really gonna allow a nigga to come in and do that? That's the thing, you know, am I really gonna be able to relinquish control in that way, to allow a man to be the leader? That is the cross that I bear.

[Tam Bam]

I. I don't think that we have these conversations, and we hear these conversations on podcasts all the time. And I just don't think that the GDP allows for any one person to be the. The decision maker. And why would a man have to. Like, why would you. Why would anybody want to always be the one making decisions? Like, you know, it should be. It should be split. You're going to be good at Some things he's going to be good at some things. That's what equally yoke actually means. Equally yoke doesn't mean, like he's supposed to do everything exactly how you do it and as good as you do it. No, you, you, y'all show up for each other where the other person.

[Mandy B]

It's still a partnership. Yeah, it's still a partnership, but I still want a leader. I think my mom was like, you need a beta, man. You don't need no alpha male. Right. You need a beta. And I'm like, no, you don't.

[Tam Bam]

No, absolutely not. I don't trust somebody.

[Mandy B]

Did not work.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, I don't want a who. I can easily, like, disrespect. Because that's what happens when you have somebody who isn't a decision maker, who can't, who's not decisive about anything. Women then tend to like, just take the lead. And now I got the pants and I got my.

[Mandy B]

Now I'm pissing standing up. I don't want that.

[Tam Bam]

My mom be saying I got the pussy and the dick. Like, she be saying that. I don't ever want to feel that way.

[Mandy B]

I don't ever want to say that to a man.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, so we want the man to, you know, provide provision, protection and things like that. You have to be able to listen to somebody if you really want them to be able to protect you. You may think it's controlling when he say, you know, I don't think you should go outside, you know, go to the grocery store. It's 10:00. What the you got going on? You know, that's not what you want to eat tomorrow.

[Mandy B]

Ain't you complaining about not having no lunch?

[Tam Bam]

Well, outsource. Maybe we'll get instacart, I don't know. But sometimes you have to listen to what your man, the man that is supposed to be able to protect you. Because maybe you as much as we think we are always alert and, you know, mama bears and just, you know, sometimes somebody else has a little bit more insight than you do. Black woman. So if you want that provision from black men, you gotta listen to them sometimes. Sometimes?

[Mandy B]

Yeah.

[Tam Bam]

On Wednesdays and Sundays.

[Mandy B]

You gotta try. All right, let me see, what is my vent? I am so sick of trying to maintain beauty and go to the gym. Oh, my God, when I say I sweat so bad in my head, right? And I got these European tracks in my head and my natural hair is giving. Fresh off the street Nigeria, baby. And it's just such a struggle every day Like I can't. I'm got to get me some locs. I'm going back to my locs because I can't do this. I can't live like this anymore. That is a battle for the black woman in the gym. If you are not wearing a natural. Even in with natural styles, it's just still such a struggle. Are you wearing a hat or you got a wig? But if you got some natural leave out, baby, the stroke is real.

[Tam Bam]

I'd be in the gym with a. With a hat wig. I do do that right now. I actually have my laid down, glued down. But this, if I go to the gym, this gonna be lifting you. You.

[Mandy B]

I want you to. Them braids you had back when we went to see old girl. You should take some a break from that.

[Tam Bam]

We just talked about the braiding hair and that should be having my scalp inflamed.

[Mandy B]

But they got they hair now. That is.

[Tam Bam]

You don't know until you try it. You might think my homegirl getting her hair braided today, right? And her braider had her drive all the way across town because now she used to provide the hair, but now she no longer provides the hair. You got to bring your own hair because somebody complained about some hair they. That she used on their head. So now you got to bring your own shit. She's no longer providing hair. So you just never know what's going to. Something might work for somebody and it may not work for the next person. And I have very sensitive skin.

[Mandy B]

Well, what did you use that time? Because that worked, right?

[A.J. Holiday]

I can't remember.

[Tam Bam]

I can't remember. They. They provided the hair. It was an African shop in Charlotte.

[Mandy B]

But they got these new. What I've seen is supposed to be hypoallergenic and all. And. But you also can wash your hair in apple cider vinegar and do all these things first that they're saying, but I would love to see you back in some braids or some locks or something like that.

[Tam Bam]

I just. I'd be feeling stuck. I like soon as I put the braids in, I want to take it out to see if my hair grew.

[Mandy B]

Because like immediately that's how I feel about the gym. Is my back unbig after two days?

[Tam Bam]

How did you get on the scale? Why the.

[Mandy B]

I lose five pounds already after one workout. But y'all know that, you know, you be wearing them wigs all the time. This. This part of your scalp get lighter than the rest.

[Tam Bam]

I don't. I don't. So I hardly leave the house for One. Right. And when I do like, I. I don't wear my. Like, right now. I glued my hair down because we were supposed to do something else today, and that didn't happen. But for the most part, I do not be just having my wig glued on. I be in a bonnet most of the time and I don't be outside. So I know what you're talking about. Like, that little light skin area my was up because I stopped using ghost bond glue because they changed the formula. And this goes back again to, like, these people trying to kill us. My was raw.

[Mandy B]

Raw. Yeah. Our beautiful black women got raw hairlines and discolored hairlines because of those wigs. And that is an indicator to take a break and give your scalp some rest from that chemical that's in the glue and just being completely covered all the time. And then. And then once you continue to do that, your hairline recedes, and then you are stuck with it. Stop doing that, sister. Stop doing that to your head. Your hairline is beautiful. Just love it. Love on it. Song.

[Tam Bam]

What about these foreheads, though? Because, you know, I do get to hide like a half an inch of mine.

[Mandy B]

Wear a bang. Get a style with a bang.

[Tam Bam]

But then when I wear a bang, I miss my forehead. I remember I had to sew in with a bang. I'm like, my God, I miss my forehead. So it's just. I don't know. I like what I like, and I can't necessarily say I like braids. Okay. I feel like too much in my face be out. It's just. It become a lot.

[Mandy B]

So you hiding under your hair a little bit?

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, I do. A inch, a half inch of this forehead. Yes, I do.

[Mandy B]

Okay.

[Tam Bam]

So the whole forehead is out because I don't got no little sleek little baby edges. I might have to, girl. I permed my edges once. I put a Jerry curl on my edges one time and no came out. But luckily I have very resilient hair. At least the edges.

[Mandy B]

My edges. I got two thin spots right by my. My came the back and I've been rubbing, basking lather in them little spots right there. Just trying to get them to grow back. Because it is what it is, though. It, you know.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah. So, yeah. Trying to maintain the hair and go to the gym. I mean, if you really like. I don't give a. I'll be in there with this, loosening up and all that. Well, I put a scarf on or a hat. You know what I'm saying? Like, you wear more leave out.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tam Bam]

You Wear more, leave out a lot of times. So I can see, like, trying to maintain that and, like, sweaty scalp. I don't sweat in my head that bad.

[Mandy B]

And it's cool, y'all, because I love y'all. We family. My quick weave stank. I gotta take it out before Easter. I can't let Easter. I can't let Easter catch me with my quick weave. Like, what happens? Like, I started sweating. I could smell it. I'm like, oh, oh, my God. And I'd be thinking, like, no, I could not lay next to nobody's son with my head and do it though.

[Tam Bam]

Women be definitely laying down with that corn chip scalp.

[Mandy B]

Oh, it stink. I got this.

[Tam Bam]

And a man can't tell you nothing about that. He can't say, baby, your head smell funny.

[Mandy B]

You get offended, Right, well, get my hair done then.

[Tam Bam]

Knowing damn well you're the first person that can smell that. Like, it's right above your nose.

[Mandy B]

I know. It's like, because I. I had this quick weave in for about three weeks now, and I've been doing two a day workouts.

[Tam Bam]

Orange wet shame.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, it's stank. I'm gonna check it out Saturday, y'all.

[Tam Bam]

Any suggestions on. On. I mean, aside from just going. Coming to the gym as you are with that little.

[Mandy B]

It ain't you can do. There is no alternative for sweat. You can't stop your head from sweating. Okay, another thing, I. I've been stank. I've been stank, y'all. I stopped. I told y'all, I stopped using, like, deodorant with aluminum.

[Tam Bam]

Oh, I've been stank.

[Mandy B]

Y'All. So I tried this new. I tried Donna Karen aluminum free deodorant. I like it, but I definitely have to travel with it in wipes because after about a good eight hours, if I don't go back home, I'ma start getting twanky. But now I just tried this Thai crystal deodorant, and it's literally like a crystal bar. You got to put it under water.

[Tam Bam]

Oh, yeah. And I use Florida water. I used to do that too.

[Mandy B]

So I'm trying that now.

[Tam Bam]

So when I first started wearing natural deodorant, I started with nothing. No deodorant. I started using no deodorant. I'm like, oh, hell no, bitch, because you a whole grown ass man. Especially when you go to the gym. So now then the next step, I went to just using lemon. And that really works raw? Yes, but it's too acidic and it will burn your skin after a while. So I had to stop that shit. Yeah.

[Mandy B]

I'm not.

[Tam Bam]

Did the crystals with the Florida water. Now I'm just at the Almond Hammer. Did I not give you a tube of that before, girl? Okay, so I feel like it works. Okay. Now it's not going to stop you from sweating.

[Mandy B]

No, it's gonna stop using aluminum. It's over for not sweating, but I just feel like I'm supposed to sweat, you know, my body.

[Tam Bam]

Exactly. So what we're doing, when we use these deodorants with all these chemicals in it, you are blocking the pores under your arm, which then can lead to things like breast cancer. You're clogging up the lymph nodes and stuff like that With.

[Mandy B]

With.

[Tam Bam]

With the. With the aluminum chemicals, you know?

[Mandy B]

Right. So that's why. That's why I stopped. You know?

[Tam Bam]

I'm gonna be alive and stink. How about that?

[Mandy B]

That's how I feel when I be in the gym. I be looking mean. Not just because I don't want y'all to come talk to me because I don't want to be bothered. It's because I don't want you to smell me.

[Tam Bam]

And I'm mad. I'm mad. I'm stink, you know, he'd be mad. Somebody else musty. I'd be pissed. Like, you're so disrespectful. Why the would you be that musty in here?

[Mandy B]

Right? So that's what's been happening.

[Tam Bam]

That's funny, man.

[Mandy B]

Somebody help. I'm just trying to get in shape. I'm just funky, my head staying.

[Tam Bam]

We just trying to be healthy.

[Mandy B]

Yeah.

[Tam Bam]

That's all. You know what I'm saying? So healthy. Don't always be pretty, like.

[Mandy B]

No, it's. I'm going through a very stanky transition.

[Tam Bam]

When your face looks slim.

[Mandy B]

Oh, is it looking slim? Good. It's starting to come off of me. I'm trying to get this second chip. Like, for the life of me, this second chin gonna go.

[Tam Bam]

That's your next rant?

[Mandy B]

Yeah, that's my. All right. That's my third and final rant. After 30 something, the. The collagen in our necks starts to, like, dwindle, and this little piece start to hang a little bit. That is the best turkey neck, bruh. I hate that shit so bad. I do. I be doing the exercises under my chin.

[Tam Bam]

I got my little roller in the.

[Mandy B]

Freezer right now, rolling it. None of that worked. None of it works. And so now if I get down to the weight I want. If it don't come off, which I doubt it will, because this has more to do with age, I think. What you think?

[Tam Bam]

I mean, possibly. My mom is in her 70s and she hate that too. She's always doing this, like, I just want this thing off. And it's does start to hang even more, but it's also like weight loss, weight gain, weight loss, weight gain. Also the. The elasticity. So I don't know. You know, my. The lady who I go to for my colonics, she's 50 something, beautiful skin. I asked her the other day, I said, you use. You get Botox. She was like, no, never. She basically, like slather her face every day, twice a day in castor oil. She just put it on real thick and then like, rub it in real good. Rub it in. So she does like a whole little maintenance with the castor oil. So I started doing that. Because, I mean, Botox, I feel like that, like this line in my forehead. I'm sick of it, you know? And my mom, she has this thing right here, just like I do like the little bulldog, little fat in between eyebrows. So when I squinch my face up, it's like. But my mom's now is, like hanging there. So I'm like, oh, my God, when I get old, like, that's how my shit gonna look. So what I'm do about that?

[Mandy B]

I'm about to go get this snatched.

[Tam Bam]

Come on, let's go to Turkey. Let's go to Turkey. We don't get the whole comprehensive health care where they check all the things and you see all the specialists all in one day. It used to be 400, now it's 900. Because more Americans have been coming to. Going to Turkey for it. We need to go ahead and do that this year. Yes. And they do, like, packages with hotels and flight. So we need to go ahead and.

[Mandy B]

Do that because I'm sick of this little piece of shit on the bottom of my neck. All right, so that's my rant.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah. So when we come back from the break, I want to rant about one more thing. Okay? Just one more thing. We'll be right back.

[Mandy B]

All right.

[Tam Bam]

Have you ever looked around at your.

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[Tam Bam]

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[Tam Bam]

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[Tam Bam]

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[Tam Bam]

All right, so we're back. And I know you guys have seen these headlines and I've seen so many posts from so many different influencers online talking about these fake bags. Like from the post at China that the Asian countries have put out, basically disparaging, right, the European nations in the bags, like Italy, saying that all these bags are actually made in China. I have always had the inkling that that's what's going on. Because right now we are in a place where the real and the fake is being exposed, like literally. So to me, that whole situation is way bigger than those handbags bags, right? Because what's the lie and what's the truth? The lines are like so blurry right now. I been thought, like, you go in the store, like, who's to say like that what is the real bag and what is a fake bag? But the, the craziness that I see from some people online, like, ah, yeah, y'all bitches bags been fake. Like it's like now they think it's like even playing field or somehow everybody is like on the same playing field.

[Mandy B]

Here's the thing about these bags. It's the logo that gives it status.

[Tam Bam]

Exactly.

[Mandy B]

That's what it is. It's a status symbol. It is not even back about the bag. Most of those Hermes bags are ugly.

[Tam Bam]

Yes. What is a lunchbox?

[Mandy B]

Right? So let's be clear, they're not Exactly. The cutest bag in the world. If you were walking past a store and saw that bag in it without Hermes symbol on it, you wouldn't be like, oh, I love the design of that bag. You're not. But because it is Hermes and because it was $38,000 for this bag, it is a status symbol. And that's what I think people are missing. It's about the status that comes along with it, not necessarily the look of.

[Tam Bam]

The bag or the. Well, the price also, right? So.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, well, that I remember. Sometimes you can pay $38,000 for a bag. You know, you come in like that.

[Tam Bam]

So I remember some months ago, white women were coming out saying that they ordered these knockoff Hermes bags and they were comparing it to their real 38, 000 bags. And I mean the finishing on it, like the, the, the locks, all that stuff is, was identical. So this is before this time, right now, right before, like Asia. Now, trying to confirm some things. Now I've been to China, I went to Guangzhou and in Hong Kong, in Hong Kong, there is a designer handbag store. Damn, on every fucking corner. There are designer stores on every corner. And when I say they have these vintage bags, new bags, all that shit in there for resale prices, prices and new prices for the same price, you'd probably see the shit inside of a Louis Vuitton store. So I think they are partially lying, right, about them making all of these bags. In China, there is a black market for. I remember when I came back from China, they took my luggage. I have no fake bags in there. I had a bunch of weave in there because that's what the fuck I went to China for, to find some hair vendors. So I didn't get my bags delivered to my house until the next day. And the TSA slip was in there. So they went through my shit. So it was a real big thing about importing and exporting the counterfeit items. But in China, they are selling legitimate Louis Vuitton Italian made bags in their country. So do not pay attention to all the propaganda, right? Because it's no middle class in China, baby. And they all walking around with $38,000 Hermes bags. I promise you, okay, you either really rich or you really poor. So what they're doing now, I feel is trying to destroy that market. And maybe they're going to then insert themselves with the $30,000 bags. Okay? So just be, be careful, you know? So I don't, I don't, I don't.

[Mandy B]

Think right now I feel like a bag, a Bag all this right now.

[Tam Bam]

Because it's way nicer out here. Like I. My little cute little bag I wore last week to my homegirls baby shower. Like, that bag cost me $40. And she had a little Gucci little bag. My bag is cuter. Same little, little bamboo handle, all that. I paid 39, $40 for the bag. Her bag was $2,000.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, it's all about how you style yourself.

[Tam Bam]

Yeah, I make the clothes look good. You got to make the clothes look good. Clothes don't make you. You make the clothes, right?

[Mandy B]

Well, China makes the clothes.

[Tam Bam]

Everything China, Taiwan, we don't make. And thus trying to bring back some of these industries. I want to open up a fabric store. Joanne Fabric just closed down and all the sewing girls and all the seamstresses in Charleston are in a store for good. They just closed the one that's in. In the area I live in, which is, you know. Yeah. So like all, all the sewing. Like, my seamstress is like, I don't know what we gonna do. I'm like, oh, my God. This is a opportunity for a small business. Like, I'm gonna order all this fabric from China because I have connects. When I went to China, they have this big ass place like a coliseum. And you can literally walk in there and start any business you want to start. If you want to sell curling eyes, you want to sell combs, you want to sell weave, you want to sell fabrics, you want to sell r. Pocketbooks. Yeah, you could do that too, right? They have everything. It's called, I think it's called fashion world or something like that big ass place in the middle of Guangzhou. You can go in there and start whatever business. So yes, I'm going to be ordering some fabric and I bought a lot from Joanne's. I really want to do that. Like, that's, that should be a quick. Do it like a little, small, little shop. Come get fabric. Because there's one, one shop in my area that has like, fabric but not much as like a Joanne's fabric that they would have.

[Mandy B]

Well then started make me some clothes.

[Tam Bam]

I ain't trying to sell. I'm just trying to get a bag off of buying something for a little bit of money and selling it for a lot. Yeah, okay, that's what, that's what's happening.

[A.J. Holiday]

With y'all bags, possibly.

[Mandy B]

No, with everything. Because. All right, y'all know those sneakers that went viral from Walmart, they call Avia Aviation. They're really cute. I got a pair. They're cute. They were 19 in Walmart and they feel just like a pair of Nikes or a six or something like that. So we're paying a hundred plus for a sneaker that probably paid cost more than less than 19 to make.

[Tam Bam]

Yep. So the price. So wait a minute, Walmart had a hundred dollar sneaker?

[Mandy B]

No, it's a 19 sneaker that went viral. Everybody was getting them because they were cute boot. And I got me a pair in the Avia and like I said my mom was, you know my mama always buying some is a homeless lady. She's like I need to get her some sneakers and outfit. I was like go to Walmart and get her. And then she was picking out all these ugly ass shoes. I was like not Walmart got. I was like the lady already homeless. Get her some nice at least some cute. So she, I told her to get her the Avia sneakers. So she was walking around Walmart trying to find them. And the girl in Walmart was like, you talking about the Tick tock sneakers? Everybody want we out. So they are out right now. But she said they'll be back soon. But they were like I got a pair for 19 bucks. 19 and they're so cute and I wear them.

[Tam Bam]

Oh send them. I want to see them. You know I never gave a. Because I make some look fly. And people understand where you get that from because it's how you make the thing. Yeah. So yeah, girl, I'd be running through sneakers. I wear Jordans to the gym. I'll be running, jogging and Jordans and like people really be like having collector item Js. My BE bust up. So yeah, like the one sneakers with.

[Mandy B]

That graffiti on it that you like. I hate them shoes.

[Tam Bam]

My Kobe's. Girl, let me tell you if any men listen to this show. She is talking about my gumbo Kobe's. Those are classic sneaker. Okay, maybe you got tired of seeing me wearing them, but I love those sneakers and I think you caused them to up up because I left them in the car and like the melted.

[Mandy B]

A little bit on the inside. Oh, look how I be manifesting in the name of Jesus, girl, I would.

[Tam Bam]

Never manifest for anything. You like to get up the hell? That's terrible.

[Mandy B]

I remember I had this. All right, this is it. And then we can go. I had this pair of sandals that I love. They were mesh thong sandals and they were so cute to me. And one day I just could not find them. And I was like what happened to my shoes? I can't find them. Summer went by. My best friend Called me. She was like, you know those sandals that you love so much? She's like, I hit them. They're in that box in the back of your closet. And it's. She hid them from me because she hated them so much. She's like, I just could not see you outside in those ever again, so I hid them. And that's what I wanted to do with you.

[Tam Bam]

That your sister Janae. Oh.

[Mandy B]

She'S like, they were so ugly, I had to hide them from you.

[Tam Bam]

That's terrible. Like, I would. If. However, people. Whatever. People like. Like, I'm never again. Like, I know. I'll see like, a. Oh, she got her favorite jeans on. Like, you know, people love favorites. But how the. Does that bother you? I'm confused about it. Like, I be. I know I have seen things like, I wish this would stop wearing. I would never say it, though. I would never be like, I will say, stop doing this.

[Mandy B]

I will. Especially if I'm close with you. I feel like. Because we're close. I can tell you take that off.

[Tam Bam]

You the one got a problem with it. The rest of the world ain't seen this yet, so put that on. Don't listen to your friends.

[Mandy B]

They be.

[Tam Bam]

They be a little bit. Let me rant about that.

[Mandy B]

I'mma hide it from you. I'mma hide it in your house.

[Tam Bam]

All right? If y'all have anything to rant about, let us know. Send us a message on Instagram, email it to us at we talk back pod.comgmail.com. we want to hear all y'all rants and all the shit y'all sick of hearing about seeing about doing. You know, I'm over myself also. I'm tired of my own. Okay. So I'm working on me a thousand percent. Okay? Going super hard for 2025.

[Mandy B]

Likewise.

[Tam Bam]

Yes.

[Mandy B]

We are looking for interns, you guys. We need some interns. We are building a team, you know? So if you're interested in being part of our team, we want you email us at we talk back ent gmail.com. so send us your resumes. You guys, we need you.

[Tam Bam]

And Tammy is actually going to follow up this time with those.

[Mandy B]

We're definitely going to follow up this time because we got some live shows coming up. We got some things planned for 2025, and we need a team surrounding us. We can't do it without y'all. I mean, we could, but we want y'all to be a part of it. So, y'all. We talk back ent gmail.com. you guys.

[Tam Bam]

If you enjoyed this episode, y'all tune in every Thursday on the black effect iHeartradio app or wherever the you get your podcast at. Oh this your co host AJ Holiday 2.0 on Instagram's Kicking Tail, y'all.

[Mandy B]

It's official Tam Bam on Instagram. Follow me now. I love y'all so much. Remember speak now.

[A.J. Holiday]

Shit.

[Tam Bam]

And never hold your peace man. Whatever you want to like let it out, okay? Just let it out. Talk about it. Talk to a friend. Tell a friend to tell a friend. Talk to a therapist. Vent Deuces.

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Com.