Where Are Your Clothes

Summary

We Talk Back Podcast Summary: "Where Are Your Clothes" Release Date: February 6, 2025
Hosts: TamBam and AJ Holiday
Produced by: The Black Effect and iHeartPodcasts

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Introduction

We Talk Back is hosted by TamBam and AJ Holiday, two unapologetically Black women navigating the complexities of femininity amidst the "Sea of Men." In this episode titled "Where Are Your Clothes," released on February 6, 2025, the hosts dive into a range of topics from personal anecdotes to broader social issues, all delivered with their signature raw and unfiltered comedic repartee.

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Weekend Recaps and Personal Updates

The episode kicks off with TamBam and AJ exchanging updates about their weekends, discussing their experiences in New York and South Carolina.

• AJ Holiday [03:01]: "What's up, y'all? It's your co-host, AJ Holiday. What's up, Tam Bamboo?"

• TamBam [03:11]: "I only been here less than 24 hours. Next week, the white town. More like I'm from here."

They share their feelings about the cold weather, their interactions with family, and the challenges of maintaining familial relationships.

• AJ Holiday [05:10]: "I can't do it. I can't function in the cold. For real. I hate that."

• TamBam [05:49]: "Please check on your parents. But I feel like Black people, we do pretty good with taking care of our family, right?"

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Onijah Robinson: Stranded in Pakistan

A substantial portion of the episode discusses the viral story of Onijah Robinson, a 33-year-old American woman stranded in Pakistan after a failed online marriage.

• AJ Holiday [06:40]: "Have y'all been following this with the stand? Black lady in Pakistan, Onijah Robinson."

They delve into the reasons behind her stay, the legal complications, and the societal implications of her actions.

• TamBam [07:48]: "From Pakistan, yes. Not from the 19-year-old, but from Pakistan is crazy."

• AJ Holiday [09:18]: "She's asking them for a hundred thousand dollars. A hundred thousand Pakistani rupees or about $360 US dollars. That's it."

The hosts express concern over her mental state and the financial demands she's placing on the Pakistani government, highlighting the complexities of international relationships and legal statuses.

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Unusual Legal Cases: Cyber Farting Conviction

The hosts also discuss a bizarre legal case involving a woman convicted of "cyber farting."

• TamBam [13:23]: "Well, why are you trying to make the woman leave though?"

• AJ Holiday [13:08]: "She faces a 12-month sentence for unsolicited cyber farting."

They explore the absurdity of the case, questioning the motivations behind such legal actions and reflecting on societal norms regarding privacy and decency.

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Black History Month Tribute: Diane Nash

In honor of Black History Month, TamBam and AJ pay homage to Diane Nash, a pivotal figure in the civil rights movement.

• TamBam [19:23]: "We gotta do better. We gotta be better examples, I hear, for the younger generation."

• AJ Holiday [21:58]: "Diane Nash, you are a baddie who talk back. We salute you, girl."

They recount Nash's contributions to the Freedom Rides and her unwavering commitment to non-violent resistance, emphasizing her legacy and its relevance today.

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Grammys Discussion: Wins, Losses, and Fashion Fiascos

A significant segment is devoted to discussing the recent Grammy Awards, focusing on performances, wins, and fashion statements.

• TamBam [27:42]: "Honestly, I really enjoyed the Grammys. It was really inclusive to me."

• AJ Holiday [28:23]: "Dolce was super. Y'all shout out to Dolce. Drop a clues bra for Dolce. I love her."

The hosts critique Beyonce's unexpected win in the country category, Kendrick Lamar's sweeping victories, and Drake's emotions regarding the awards. They also analyze controversial fashion choices on the red carpet, particularly highlighting Bianca Sisori's revealing attire.

• TamBam [42:24]: "Cause why are you completely nude? I'm talking about she had a little piece of Saran Wrap in the shape of a dress over her body."

• AJ Holiday [47:16]: "If you're getting paid to do something, you're doing editorials. And that's like."

Their candid opinions shed light on the intersection of fashion, gender expectations, and the pressures of public appearances in the entertainment industry.

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Fashion and Self-Expression: Boundaries and Societal Expectations

The conversation naturally flows into a discussion about fashion choices, self-expression, and the societal implications of revealing attire.

• TamBam [54:46]: "I think if you're gonna have something out, that's cool, but just pick one. So if you have your titties out, you shouldn't have on your ass out too."

• AJ Holiday [56:25]: "They have to put some clothes on."

They debate the merits of modesty versus personal freedom in dressing, advocating for self-respect and the importance of setting boundaries to avoid unwanted attention.

• TamBam [59:24]: "Ultimately, this life is about finding what makes you happy and living in that space."

• AJ Holiday [61:00]: "We got to do better. We got to be better examples, I hear, for the younger generation."

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Conclusion and Call to Action

Wrapping up the episode, TamBam and AJ reiterate their commitment to guiding femininity to its ultimate greatness, encouraging listeners to balance self-expression with self-respect.

• TamBam [60:51]: "She made a lot of money doing that because ain't nobody else did that since."

• AJ Holiday [62:07]: "But anyway, explain you. You understand what her show is about, though?"

They promote audience engagement by inviting listeners to participate in upcoming events and stay connected through social media platforms.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• AJ Holiday [06:40]: "Have y'all been following this with the stand? Black lady in Pakistan, Onijah Robinson."

• TamBam [13:08]: "She faces a 12-month sentence for unsolicited cyber farting."

• TamBam [21:58]: "Diane Nash, you are a baddie who talk back. We salute you, girl."

• TamBam [27:42]: "Honestly, I really enjoyed the Grammys. It was really inclusive to me."

• AJ Holiday [42:24]: "Cause why are you completely nude? I'm talking about she had a little piece of Saran Wrap in the shape of a dress over her body."

• TamBam [54:46]: "I think if you're gonna have something out, that's cool, but just pick one."

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Final Thoughts

In "Where Are Your Clothes," TamBam and AJ Holiday navigate a mix of personal experiences, viral news stories, and cultural critiques, all while maintaining their engaging and humorous dynamic. This episode underscores their mission to help women maneuver through societal expectations with confidence, humor, and unapologetic authenticity.

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Transcript

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[AJ Holiday]

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[John Cameron Mitchell]

This is John Cameron Mitchell and my new fiction podcast series Cancellation island stars Holly Hunter as Karen, a wellness influencer who launches a rehab for the recently canceled. In the future, we will all be canceled for 15 minutes, but don't worry, we'll take you from broke to woke or your money back. Cancellation Island's revolutionary rehab therapies like bad touch football, anti racism spin class and mandatory ayahuasca ceremonies are designed to force the council to confront their worst impulses. But everything starts to fall apart when people start disappearing.

[AJ Holiday]

Karen, where have you brought us?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Cancellation island, where a second chance might just be your last. Listen to Cancellation island on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or where you get your podcasts.

[Kevin Smith]

Hey, kids, it's me, Kevin Smith.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

And it's me, Harley Quinn Smith.

[Kevin Smith]

That's my daughter, man, who my wife has always said is just a beardless dless version of me. And that's the name of our podcast, Beardless Me. I'm the old one, I'm the young one. And every week we try to make each other laugh really hard. Sounds innocent, doesn't it? A lot of cussing, a lot of bad language. It's for adults only. Or listen to it with your kid. Could be a family show. We're not quite sure. We're still figuring it out.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

It's a work in progress.

[Kevin Smith]

Listen to Beardless me on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or where you get your podcasts.

[Damien Hirst]

Do you remember what you said the first night I came over here?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Ow.

[Damien Hirst]

Go slower. From Blumhouse TV, iHeart podcasts and Ember 20 comes an all new fictional comedy podcast series. Join the flighty Damien Hirst as he unravels the mystery of his vanished boyfriend. I've been spending all my time looking for answers about what happened to Santi and what's the way to Find a missing person. Sleep with everyone he knew, Obviously. Listen to the hookup on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to to your favorite shows.

[AJ Holiday]

Welcome to We Talk Back, where we encourage you to hustle hard, laugh louder, and always keep it cute. So grab your coffee cocktail and crown. Cause it's about to go down.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

We're just two unapologetically black women with an opinion who talk back.

[AJ Holiday]

What's up, y'all? It's your co host, AJ Holiday. What's up, Tam Bamboo?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Hey, y'all. I love y'all. Hey, aj.

[AJ Holiday]

What's up, girl? How you feeling? I heard you was in the Big eight. The Big Apple.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

You know what I'm saying? It's brick outside, you know, for real.

[AJ Holiday]

No, it was not sounding like New York sun.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I only been here less than 24 hours. Next week, the white town. More like I'm from here.

[AJ Holiday]

You gonna be, like, out of here. From down south who go on vacation every summer to their family house and come back with an accent.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Oh, that's how my best friend Takia, every year she come back from New York, like, talking about something. Mad this and mad that.

[AJ Holiday]

Girl, now you know you from ug, South Carolina. Cut it out. Columbia.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Downtown Columbia, bitch. But, yeah, New York is cool. I mean, it's. It is mad Brick out here. It's cold as, like. I think this is the only place where it really do feel. Brick.

[AJ Holiday]

That's me, girl. My lips so damn chapped. I'm doing that.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I thought you. I thought she was telling me my lips was ashy.

[AJ Holiday]

My lip keep getting ashy. I'm licking it, looking at the camera like, wait a minute.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yeah, so I just got here. My classes start on Tuesday. I'm excited, but I'll be right back in Charlotte on Wednesday. Flying right. I'll be flying back and forth. Nervous about that.

[AJ Holiday]

Have fun.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

We're not gonna get into that part. How was your weekend?

[AJ Holiday]

My weekend was all right. Uneventful. For real. It was very nice in Charleston. It was like, Saturday was, like, 77 degrees, man. So I hung up.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

It was beautiful this weekend, wasn't it?

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah, it was real nice. Like, the weather was really nice. This morning was real. A lot of fog out. So I'm like, damn, is this the new norm now? Is winter over? Are we now in, like, spring? Because I would be very happy.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yeah, me too. I'm over it.

[AJ Holiday]

I'm tired of cold weather. I mean, it don't get that cold here in comparison to a lot of places. But I can't. I can't do it. I can't function in the cold. For real. I hate that.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I don't like it. We had snow. That shit was. I mean, that was cute. For five minutes. And then. Right.

[AJ Holiday]

So I did get outside a little bit. Not really outside, like actually doing anything that's worth talking about, but just outside like visiting my parents and like that. Y'all go see our parents. They all right. Girl over there.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

My family sad because I'm gone. They miss me.

[AJ Holiday]

They'll be all right.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I only been going a day though. I'm sure they're all right.

[AJ Holiday]

So be all right.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

So I just visit my mom and. And my daddy. Child, your parents begin. Old man, y'all gotta go see your people.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Please check on your parents. But I feel like black people, we do pretty good with taking care of our family, right?

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah, I don't feel like I'd be seeing my parents enough, honestly.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I have not seen my dad in two years. While I'm talking. Right? We talk every day. At least say good morning.

[AJ Holiday]

I mean, because he out of town, like. But yeah, I shouldn't be seeing my daddy as much as you see yours. And he live right here. You know what I'm saying? That is up. So I gotta make more of an effort to go see my daddy, man. Because he just be boring over there though.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

They could just be sitting outside with his pistol underneath the seat watching tv.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Like, ready for some to pop off.

[AJ Holiday]

Twiddling my thumbs over there. All right, man, I'm about to go.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

All right, I love you. Bye.

[AJ Holiday]

Right. So yeah, that's all I did this weekend, child. Hang out with the people.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Let's get in the scene.

[AJ Holiday]

Have y'all been following this with the stand? Black lady in Pakistan, Onijah Robinson. Okay. This is a 33 year old woman who met a 19 year old boy. I don't know if he bamboozled her online and said he was older, I don't know. Or were you actually moving for a 19 year old boy? But she took her ass to Pakistan and she's been there since October. So now she's like a viral sensation online right now because she won't leave. They even tried to put her on a plane and she won't leave. The last videos I saw, they basically put her like in a.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Well, why?

[AJ Holiday]

Insane asylum, basically.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Why are you trying to make the woman leave though?

[AJ Holiday]

Well, she's not a citizen.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Okay.

[AJ Holiday]

And she's. I don't know. I don't. She's Just there, the guys, the guy has disappeared. There's different men popping up now saying. I hate saying, like I'll marry her and give her the money. They don't look like they got money. And she's demanding land and money from Pakistan. This poor country.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

From Pakistan, yes. Not from the 19 year old, but from Pakistan is crazy.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah. I mean, but I feel like, okay.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

They trying to get to America.

[AJ Holiday]

Exactly. This is why, you know, this is. This is why I want people to. To. I know we don't like the way America is ran, but this is our country, right. We can't pull up in droves to other countries and do the people do. Well, she's doing it right. Maybe they might not want to come to America after they see like, they probably think like this is how Americans act right here.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

And it is. Oh, entitled. Oh, arrogant, entitled. I'm not leaving this place.

[AJ Holiday]

Right. Y'all against her religion. Tell her business. So she's refusing to leave basically. And she's like saying how she gonna fix Pakistan up. And yeah, she just. There. Her son actually posted a video. His face, his face was blurred out and it's a teenage boy saying hi, his mom. And this is his. Her son here. Yeah, that she has mental illness. I don't know. Y'all. Y'all gotta see this though.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yeah. She gotta have mental ass out of Pakistan behind some 19 year old boy. It won't leave.

[AJ Holiday]

How much was that plane ticket? She probably spent her last dime to get over there and he like finessed and disappeared. She probably was sending him money. That's why she demanded money at the government like y'all owe me. I've been sending this 20 a week for the last couple months.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

So how does she. I'm just trying to figure out how you even got hooked up with this child.

[AJ Holiday]

So it says Elijah Andrew Robinson, a 23. Excuse me. A 33 year old American woman reportedly refuses to leave Pakistan after a failed marriage plan. According to reports. Now she's saying that they're married in the state of Utah. She said they did like an online marriage. I don't know if that's a thing it says. According to reports, Robinson flew to Karuchi in October 2024 to marry 19 year old knight Nadal Hamed Miman. Okay. Whom she had met online. However, upon arrival from the United States, Robinson's plans to get married fell through after Maman's family refused to approve the marriage. Now leaving her as stranded in Pakistan. Okay, so it's reported that the American woman is in the country on a 30 day tourist visa. So they can't put her out because she did apply for a visa and got approved, which has since. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Which has since expired because she has been there since October and she is left with nowhere to stay. According to the Express Type Tribune, Robinson went to Miman's home in the garden area and found the family had vacated the property. God damn. The whole family done move, girl.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

If you don't go home.

[AJ Holiday]

Subsequently, she staged.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

He don't want you. He don't want you. He don't want you. No.

[AJ Holiday]

Okay, so she's been outside his house. So subsequently she staged a sit in outside the home and took shelter in the building's parking area. Her actions have since caught the attention of locals worldwide masses. On social media, it's reported that Robinson has received help from a non governmental organization, ngo, which offered her to return, which offered her a return ticket to the United States and financial support. So I mean, people be. When you come here as a illegal immigrant, basically they give you a lawyer. As soon as you touch down, you get an attorney to help you fight to get. Not citizenship, but I guess like legal status, right? But we can't. We cannot pull up like millions of us nowhere. Like if. If black people really wanted to leave this country in droves. Like, yeah, Ghana. Ghana is accepting us, right? Ghana is saying y'all come home. If y'all consider that y'all home, go ahead. But we couldn't go to any place else in this world, okay, in mass deportation and just pull up and demand how people can come to America at Ghana.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

If we all decided to come, they'd be like, wait, wait, wait. Hold on. Talk about a couple of y'all.

[AJ Holiday]

Now just the women all can come. Y'all got to stick and let us.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

See your ass first. Hold on. She could go. She could go. She could go.

[AJ Holiday]

But anyway, she. She's asking them for a hundred thousand dollars. A hundred thousand Pakistanian rupees or about 360 US dollars. That's it.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

$360.

[AJ Holiday]

That's it, girl.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I send you that to bring your ass home, right? Red CR give you that to come home.

[AJ Holiday]

I don't know what's gonna happen with.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

That lady, but y'all pray for us to our good sister over there in Pakistan, she tripping.

[AJ Holiday]

That is the funniest.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I don't have no protection though, out there. You know, she ain't safe.

[AJ Holiday]

I saw her with her. She had a woman with her, look like a local. So maybe that's who's been going with her doing these press conferences Child because they probably had news like this and forever in Pakistan, right? So they eating that up out there.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Cutting up y'all. AJ sent me over the weekend because she be. I don't know what's on her algorithm. This woman faces 12 months sentence for unsoliciting cyber farting. Now what the is a cyber fart? Okay. It says in a UK courthouse, a 25 year old woman was convicted of cyber farting after sending unsolicited videos of herself passing gas to her boyfriend's ex partner. She faced 300 in fines, a 12 month community order and two year restraining order alongside mandatory rehabilitation sessions. The woman showed remorse saying that her actions were petty.

[AJ Holiday]

Hold on.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Be real bad to be farting. Making videos of yourself farting and sending it to a.

[AJ Holiday]

But this is the weird part why I read the backwards. I thought she was the ex you the current girlfriend harassing the exact sending her fart videos you farting.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

It's crazy.

[AJ Holiday]

She probably could have made money on only fans with that. I'm pretty sure some nasty ass men out here that want to pretend like they can smell it through the phone.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

The picture, I thought it was something else. I thought she was like selling fart videos.

[AJ Holiday]

What if you could smell stuff through your phone?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

That would be next level. You can smell people through the phone.

[AJ Holiday]

I have thought about like sending because you know you can order like manure and like like that. Stuff like that like online. I have thought about sending to a house before.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Wow, that's crazy. That's your Gemini.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah. I didn't do it though. I just thought about. It was a fleeting thought because buying.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

When you live in South Carolina is crazy. There's all over the place. There's a cow pasture real close.

[AJ Holiday]

I'm not packaging it and delivering it though. I would want it to come in a box wrapped up and they think it's like something for real and it's just in there.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

But you gotta make it. If you do it, you gotta do it because he gonna know his. Because it's gonna come in and say he go your. You need to put it in the print.

[AJ Holiday]

It's gonna have a FedEx label on it. That's it. Or whatever company. Yeah. And it's just a box of.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

What you deserve. Valentine, y'all.

[AJ Holiday]

So your homegirl Erica Mina has a new reality TV show child called Two Ways. Two Ways with Erica Mina premieres now. Cat Dog Trophy Trophy. Dn. Dnp. I think it's DN Breaker. Are Letting Erica know they got that anaconda. Don't miss the action. Only on Zeus network. So this is her new show on Zeus, that she had been bragging about y'all, and. And she like, titties at the top and dick at the bottom. Titties at the top and dick at the bottom. Yes, at the top and dick at the pub at the bottom. Now, you know, it shouldn't be a problem. It goes something like that.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Earth is finished. Earth is finished.

[AJ Holiday]

And then he got a couple versions of it. I forgot the artist's name, but he has a couple versions of that same song. So there's another one that's kind of. And it sounds like this. Titties at the top. Add dick at the bottom. Titties at the top and dick at the bottom.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

You be listening to that in the gym, don't you?

[AJ Holiday]

Sometime my algorithm be up. Okay.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I'm like, really? Do you be up mine? Because you be sending me that. And then, like, how did you see. Where did you find this?

[AJ Holiday]

Like, who. I asked for this? Who asked for this?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yeah, man.

[AJ Holiday]

But anyway, explain you. You understand what her show is about, though?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

No, I. All right, so what I'm getting, what I'm gathering is she's back outside looking for romance, and she's open to both genders. Are all genders. That's what I'm assuming. Because in the ad for the show, it's like men, women days. It look like it's a couple that's out there. It's a lot going on.

[AJ Holiday]

So she wants a woman at the top and a man at the bottom?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

No, no, not necessarily both at the same time, but she, like. Because it's. It's men out there and there's women.

[AJ Holiday]

I didn't see women. I didn't see no heterosexual men talking in that preview. It just looked like a bunch of gay guys and then trans.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

No, I think it was men in there.

[AJ Holiday]

Were there women? Hold on. Am I true?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

And there was women, too.

[AJ Holiday]

I guess we won't know if these are real women until we actually. Can we play those? Got to be girls. No. You know.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yeah, like.

[AJ Holiday]

Chad. Anyway, Erica, Mina got it going on. That's the bottom line to the sin. She got it going on, child. So she got all kind of people out here today, but this is that girl with the dreads. That is a. That's a. That's a guy.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

That's a girl.

[AJ Holiday]

I don't know, child.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Anyway, I don't know. The wait is over. Y'all go watch it On Zeus network. Yeah, go watch it on Zeus. I don't know.

[AJ Holiday]

Did I think I had that on my list to leave behind in what 23 Zoo Network.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yeah, remember we got Zeus for free for like a little a year. Ain't it before?

[AJ Holiday]

Really?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yeah. When I must miss that when old girl came on the show and they gave us a free free zoos so we could see the show. Oh man. Jocelyn Hernandez. Yeah, I never signed up. Oh, I was watching it.

[AJ Holiday]

I missed it.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

But it ain't free no more so I logging into somebody else.

[AJ Holiday]

I don't want to watch that stuff anyway. Shout out to Erica Mina.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

Did y'all catch?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I almost said drop a clues wrong for Erica.

[AJ Holiday]

No New York and don't know how to act right. This is not the Breakfast Club girl.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Oh wait, we gotta do. It's. It's February. It's Black History Month. Even though we celebrate blackness all year long, but you know we gotta do our baddies who talk back one for you. Her name, our baddie of the week is Diane Nash. She was born in May 15th, 1938 in Chicago, Illinois. She's an American civil rights activist who was a leading figure in the civil rights movement of the 1950s and 60s, especially known for her involvement in the sit ins and the Freedom Ride. And she also contributed the passage of the civil Rights Acts of 1964 and the Voting Rights act of 1960. 65. Now she's grown up and she grew up in Chicago where she experienced little racial segregation. However, that changed in Nashville later she said every time she obeyed the segregation rule, she felt like somehow she was in agreeing that she was inferior to go through the front, too inferior to go through the front door or to use the facility that the ordinary public would use. And she didn't like that. So in 1959 she began attending workshops led by civil rights activist James Lawson, who taught non violence resistance. Although initially a skeptic, Nash became a staunch believer in non violent tactics. About this time, Nash became the leader of the Student Central Committee which was staging a series of sit ins at segregated store lunch counters and other facilities in Nashville downtown area. Now, although eventually drew media attention, most businesses remain segregated. Nash took the issue to Nashville Mariband west and she served on the biracial committee he established to study the issue. Nash's efforts paid off in 1960 when Nashville began integrating its lunch counters. Now in 1960, Nash became one of the original members of the student ncc. That's sncc. I think it's called sncc. I don't know how to pronounce it. But the following year, she and other SNCC members stage a sit in in Rock Hill, South Carolina. Shout out to Rock Hill. That's. That's home. But so they started. And I saw this on the TikTok because the Grammys were just happened. The Grammys just happened. And Kendrick Lamar, who swept up all the Grammys, hey, he had Gemini season.

[AJ Holiday]

If y'all don't know.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Go him had on a Canadian tuxedo, which was trolling for sure, but also which is a jean outfit. And it's interesting. Diane Nash, they wore jean outfits because when they went down to the south, they a lot of the workers, the young black workers, that was their uniform. Denim on denim.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

So they wanted to appear like, we are like y'all. You know, we're not just some uppity college negroes. We are no different than y'all. So they started wearing the denim on denim too. So that kind of became the look for the. In ncc. What is it? The sncc. And I just learned that yesterday. And it's so funny that I picked this woman and she was one of the original members of the sncc, so. All right. While continuing to stage sit ins throughout The south in 1961, Nash coordinated the Freedom Rides. Now, I know y'all know about the freedom Rise, and if you don't, shame on you. I'm about to teach you about it right now. Which blacks and whites roll buses together to protest segregation and bus terminals, restrooms, and other facilities associated with interstate travels. The writers sought to provoke the federal government into enforcing supply Supreme Court rulings that barred segregation from interstate bus travel. When one of the Freedom Ride buses was firebombed by the Ku Klux Klan, Nash insisted that the rise continue, saying, we can't let violence overcome. So, Diane Nash, you are a baddie who. Talk back. We salute you, girl. Thank you for all your contributions to the rights of blacks and black women everywhere. We love you, girl. Thank you. She dope.

[AJ Holiday]

All right, y'all. So after this break, we want to get into the Grammys a little bit, right? And just some of our thoughts about, you know, some of the things we see now. I guess y'all clothes.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Where is our clothes? Bianca Sisori came in that ass naked. I like it.

[AJ Holiday]

We'll be right back.

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[Dylan Mulvaney]

Is this a good time? It's me, Dylan Mulvaney and my dear friend Joe Locke from Heartstopper. And Agatha all along is my very first guest on my brand new podcast, the Dylan Hour. It's musical mayhem and it is going to be so much fun.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I like a man.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

You like a man. What do I like?

[AJ Holiday]

Joe?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

You like a man too.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

We often there's quite similar. There's some cross pollination happening in here.

[AJ Holiday]

Not like. No. Have we?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

No.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

No, not yet. Never say never. I cannot wait for all you girls gays and they's to join me on this extremely special pink confection of a podcast. There is so much darkness in this world and what I think we could all use more of is a little joy. Listen to the Dylan hour on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to your podcasts. Love ya.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

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[AJ Holiday]

All right, y'all, so we're back. And y'all know I don't watch TV like that, so I really have to depend on Tammy a lot of times to let me know what be going on in the entertainment world. So how were the Grammys?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Honestly, I really enjoyed the Grammys. I did, and I typically. I watch, but I'm just kind of, like, watching to see, like, is there any blackness included? But it was really inclusive to me. Like, Dolce was super. Like, y'all shout out to Dolce. Drop a clues bra for Dolce. I love her. So there were a lot of awards that went out. Beyonce ended up getting country album of the year. And I can see some people didn't look happy. I mean, I guess because they were clapping for her, but they were also nominated. So it's hard to be happy for someone when you sad for yourself. So I won't, like, condemn them completely, but I saw the face, like, who.

[AJ Holiday]

Who was it?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I don't know her name. I don't know the artist because I'm not really into the genre of country music, Even though, you know, Beyonce said something along the lines that, like, country was ours, you know, and we lost that, you know, and we kind of stepped away from. It was a lost art for us. And I'm glad that I was accepted and people appreciated the album that the way they did and supported me the way they did. She ended up also getting album of the year, so, yeah, that's excellent. And she announced her tour dates, and I'm going. I'm gonna go to one of them European cities. So I ain't going in America.

[AJ Holiday]

America, because you're probably gonna pay, like, the same price you would pay for one ticket here for the show. You could pay for a flight and your ticket going to goddamn Europe. Probably your stay, too, your accommodations.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yeah, because it's cheaper. That's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go to the Paris show or something like that. But honestly, I'm not a country. Missing the drums is something that I need for my body. You know, I don't know what it is, but it's just somebody's guys.

[AJ Holiday]

Somebody. That's what I'm saying. Like, to me, Beyonce's album really wasn't a country, because there are some country black artists out there who've been popping, you know what I'm saying? They really didn't get the spotlight until Beyonce stepped in. Right. But to me, it might overshadow them a little bit, her presence now in the country realm. But I don't think that album was country. I think we talked about that before. But, I mean, I guess her song did end up on the charts. The. A couple of her songs ended up charting and she won. But. Yep, I saw the video. A still image of her. Like, she just didn't look surprised. For real, for me, she did.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

She looked shocked. To me, she looked like.

[AJ Holiday]

I know. Jay Z looked more shock in the back.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Blue Ivy looked like par for the chorus. Girlfriend, go get your award. Blue, like, I'm used to this. You should be, too now, mom.

[AJ Holiday]

You know, there's a event coming up in. In here at home, and, you know, it's like, for people to celebrate black people, right? For things that they're doing in the community. And on the back side of this thing, people always putting, like, online, complaining about, like, not being picked and like that. And you almost forcing the committee who does this thing to pick you. Do you really feel deserving when you have to call or rant about not being picked about some. Because remember last year at the Grammys, Jay Z was. Jay Z let they ass have it last year. Okay? Beyonce, to me, has had R B albums. I won't even put them in a real category. She has had Beyonce albums. Right, that are better than this. Yeah, exactly. That's. That's better than this. This country album that she should have got album of the year for. Because that's what his complaint was, that she has never been given album of the year. And I was surprised to see that Dolce was only the third female rap album. Like, only the third person to win a Grammy for a best female rap album. That's right.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

No, his best rap album, it wasn't.

[AJ Holiday]

Oh, right. Excuse me. Best rap album. Like, I feel like Nicki Minaj should have won that at some point.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yeah, she should have been. Got that at some point, you know, But.

[AJ Holiday]

But Nicki Minaj really only got two albums? Yeah. What albums she got? Pink and Pink Friday.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

That's it.

[AJ Holiday]

And Roman's Revenge. Is Roman's Revenge an album?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Don't give me the line, baby.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah, I feel like. I don't feel like Nicki Minaj got like a bunch of albums.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Well, I feel like she should have won at some point.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah, she should have. I mean, she's run one Grammys, right? But she hasn't won any.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Dochi speech, though. If y'all didn't see it, please go get on a shade room or somewhere or wherever you get your black information and go watch Dochis speech. It is so good. You should be feel inspired. She talks about how don't any let anyone tell you you're too black, you're too skinny, you're too old, you're too loud, you're too angry. Go do it anyway. And she is testimony of how. Well, just believing in yourself, despite what the naysayers say about you, how you can have those things that you want.

[AJ Holiday]

And I stand corrected. Nicki Minaj has five studio albums.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

How I'm about to say ain't no way she ain't got all that music she been making.

[AJ Holiday]

I don't remember five albums, but okay, okay. So Pink Friday. Pink Friday, Roman Reloaded, the Pink Print Queen, Pink Friday too. They were all named Pink Friday. That's why I was confused. Okay. Basically. Anyway. But yeah, shout out to Doshi. She looked beautiful. And I did see her performance because I watched it on Instagram, but I did not watch anything else.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yeah, but it was good. Kendrick Lamar swept up. And I just feel so sad for Drake. I do. I just feel so bad for him because ain't nothing worse than sweeping up the Grammys off of this song that's never happened.

[AJ Holiday]

And the crowd was singing it.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

And the whole Grammys is singing a song dissing you. Can you imagine? I cannot imagine that happened to me. How sad I would be. How sad I would be. I would be so hurt.

[AJ Holiday]

I think Kendrick Lamar actually has the most Grammys out of any rapper now at this point.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I don't know. Google.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah, Like, Drake only has 1, 2, 3, 4. Drake has five Grammys total.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I think he got five last night.

[AJ Holiday]

That's what I'm saying.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah, so. And that's not. Those aren't his first five.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

You know, Kendrick Lamar been getting Grammys.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

He was, you know, he was eloquent in how he played this whole game of chess. It was not checkers. It was definitely a game of Chess. And he played it to the T. And now he got a Grammy for dissing a. That's crazy. That's so crazy. So Drake is in Australia, on his Australian tour, so he's not concerned with what's going on in America. He probably did it this way because he knew the Grammys would be right now. And he knew that Kendrick was going to. I don't know, he knew Kendrick was going to sweep up like he did, but I know he knew that he was going to win some Grammys this year. And how can I get my mind off of that? Coupons for Drake.

[AJ Holiday]

Let me do the clapping.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Also, the legend, larger than life Babyface was on the red carpet and he was being interviewed and these young gen zers were doing some red carpet interviews for ap and she kind of pretty much saw this other artist name. Which one? What was her name? Yeah, and she's a very popular. You know, she did Lollapalooza and had a hundred thousand in the crowd. Like, she's big. She's from Missouri, you know, a little girl. Young lesbian girl from a young lesbian. Yeah. She talked about, you know, how she felt different, you know, and that she wasn't accepted. She didn't feel accepted because of her homosexuality. And you know, how she went to LA and. Yep. You know, found her tribe and wrote this love letter to LA and everything or whatever. But she's huge star. And these Gin Gin Zers were very happy to see her coming up behind Baby Face. That the girl kind of much, you know, pretty much shoot him off. Shoot him off. Yeah. And it was like, sorry. And then was like. And he said, yeah, go do that. It was. It was such a classy read. Go do that. Yeah, go do that. Because you don't even know who you got in front of you.

[AJ Holiday]

Right. That was disrespectful. Because I feel like even she, the other artist, probably knows who Baby Face is and probably would have waited for him.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Absolutely waited her turn.

[AJ Holiday]

Okay. So that it was just. Girl, I don't like that.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I didn't like it either.

[AJ Holiday]

But third day, what day? Second day of Black History Month. That's what you do to Baby Face. To baby you out your mind. Legits.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yeah. You don't know who you. You have in front of you. That's what it is. You don't know because.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah, he was very like, you know, graceful, you know, go do that. Since John. Y'all obviously don't know who I am.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

He didn't give a. Anyway, he didn't care to Interview like listen, after working the red carpet, I.

[AJ Holiday]

Was just about to say that.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

No, people don't even really want to be bothered to talk to all these people anyway, so.

[AJ Holiday]

Right. Yeah, like they want to just get to their seats and, and get the show started. Because y'all, these, these award shows, it's like a big production.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Right?

[AJ Holiday]

Okay. It's a lot of be going on. It's not like how you see it on tv.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Tv. Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

It's not. Is a production. So you're stopping and starting and playing musical chairs to fill the seats. All type of weird be going on and people are rushing. Like you're like. Especially on the red carpet, you got people coming in, waving who everybody down. You're. You may not get picked to interview everybody. Right, Right. And those people also know who they want to go to to get interviewed by the bigger outlets.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

The bigger are the people who have snacks. Next time we go back on the red carpet to do interviews, we definitely gonna have a cooler and snack.

[AJ Holiday]

Right. If you feeding them, they coming to.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Talk, they come in and talk to you. If you got snacks, shout out to Babyface. We love baby face and real classy with the read.

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[AJ Holiday]

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[Dylan Mulvaney]

Is this a good time? It's me, Dylan Mulvaney, and my dear friend Joe Locke from Heartstopper. And Agatha all Along is my very first guest on my brand new podcast, the Dylan Hour. It's musical mayhem and it is going to be so much fun.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I like a man.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

You like a man. What do I like, Joe?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

You like a man too.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

We often. There's quite similar. There's some cross pollination happening in here.

[AJ Holiday]

Not like.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

No.

[AJ Holiday]

Have we.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

No.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

No, not yet. Never say never. I cannot wait for all you girls, gays and they to join me on this extremely special pink confection of a podcast. There is so much darkness in this world and what I think we could all use more of is a little joy. Listen to the Dylan hour on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to your podcasts. Love ya.

[John Cameron Mitchell]

This is John Cameron Mitchell and my new fiction podcast series, Cancellation island stars Holly Hunter as Karen, a wellness influencer who launches a rehab for the recently canceled. In the future, we will all be canceled for 15 minutes. But don't worry, we'll take you from broke to woke or your money back. Cancellation Island's revolutionary rehab therapies, like bad touch football, anti racism, spin class, and mandatory ayahuasca ceremonies are designed to force the council to confront their worst impulses. But everything starts to fall apart when people start disappearing.

[AJ Holiday]

Karen, where have you brought us?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

Cancellation island, where a second chance might just be your last. Listen to Cancellation island on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[AJ Holiday]

So Kanye west was outside at the Grammys. I don't think we've seen Kanye west at the Grammys in years. And he had his wife with him. Thus today's conversation.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I'm sick of her. I'm sorry. I'm Sick of her. I just worry like, are you okay? Ho, is you okay?

[AJ Holiday]

Ho, is you okay?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Cause why are you completely nude? I'm talking about she had a little piece of Saran Wrap in the shape of a dress over her body. And then that's it. Pussy out, titties out, ass out, everything just exposed. And hair in a slicked back ponytail.

[AJ Holiday]

It's like she giving face and body, which is a nice face and a very nice body. So she's like, I think what Kanye, like, where he. Y'all know I'm always defending Kanye, okay? I ain't gonna defend too much dumb. Because to me, like, if you really love your wife, like, you working. I watched him on the Kardashians, Keeping up with the Kardashians. When Kim Kardashian wore that they were going to the Met gala and she wore that dress, it was. It was not naked. It was very tight fitting, right? It was almost like, you know, like latex kinda, but it had like the raindrops on it, like a beige color raindrops. He was giving her hell backstage, as if he didn't know what her plan was to wear that day. So imagine you being with your man, you done got your outfit laid out for a whole week, and he gonna wait till the day of the event to tell you how much she don't like what you wearing. And she looked beautiful. It was a very nice dress. She's small and petite. It was very nice. And you know, of course, he's next to her with all black on, looking crazy. So now he has these things that he can get to do whatever the he wants them to do. He couldn't do that with Kim Kardashian. Why they they marriage failed essentially because she got boundaries. And I think men want boundaries.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Just like children, they need them.

[AJ Holiday]

They don't want somebody they can do anything to. Because now look at this.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Now you naked on the red carpet, ass naked, completely butt bone naked.

[AJ Holiday]

Then y'all just gotta get in trouble in France because it looked like she was sucking his dick and his butt crack out on a boat like, Kanye.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Stop treating that woman like that. And you got daughters. You have daughters. So what are you suggesting for them? You know, would you want that for North?

[AJ Holiday]

Absolutely not. Because this is one of the things he be harassing Kim Kardashian about. Like the exposure his children. Like exposure to his children and like that. These. This is one of the things he'd be harassing about. Like just, you know, having other people having access to them or them Ending up in sex trafficking rings and all type of stuff like that. But look what you're doing to somebody else daughter. And her. And her father has actually come out and spoke against, you know, what it is that him and this girl. Yeah, Bianca, that's her name. He's basically like, do you think my daughter's a. That's essentially what this man asked.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Right. Because you parading her around like one.

[AJ Holiday]

I think she's a handler. I don't know. Kanye probably think he free for real now. I don't. Who the is this lady and where you find her at and why? Why? Why?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

If his mama was still alive, he would be more grounded a little bit. I don't think he would be doing like this. I don't think he would like have his any. Even if his wife wasn't Kim anymore or whoever it was was, he wouldn't be parading him around like this if. If his mama was still with him. You know, I don't know. His mama don't seem like the type that's going for that. He loved and respected her in a. In a real major way. And I just think out of respect for her, he wouldn't even parade his wife around like that.

[AJ Holiday]

I just know he doesn't really love this woman like he loves Kim Kardashian. He doesn't. And then you crisis king and all this stuff all the time. Why you got her outside looking like this? And I mean, we live in a country where women are the most clothed, but then you have the most sexual assaults in America also in comparison to other places around the world. So we got all the clothes on.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Well, I don't know if we the most clothes, but we more clothed in some places because, well, Europe is best dressed.

[AJ Holiday]

Okay.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

You only see women eyes and that's it, you know? Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

And I guess even in those places, women still get violated, right?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah. But.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

But I was shocked in a. Paul.

[AJ Holiday]

He posted that dress on his social media. It's down now, but he posted it before the Grammys, showing what. What she was wearing. It's just. It was plastic with outline. It was like people.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

That's not a dress. That's not a dress. That's what I. I wrap when I. On Thanksgiving. I put my turkey in something that looked just like that and put it.

[AJ Holiday]

In the oven that go under your faja.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Under.

[AJ Holiday]

Under your waist trainer.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Right. To keep it from touching your skin. That's all they do. No.

[AJ Holiday]

To lock in more sweat. If I would have had that on y'all would have sound like a bunch of steam in the coochie and butt area. It would have been so steamy because the way these thighs rub when I got a dress up. Just a whole.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

She got some kind of draws, but I can't tell what it is.

[AJ Holiday]

Oh, my God. It's a fur. Everybody. Everybody in a red carpet would have been said if I walked through with that.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Remember them Melissa sneakers back in the day? Them plastics used to be all Stevie on the inside. You might as well throw a pair of those on with that dress, right?

[AJ Holiday]

And all that walking and she came in with a fur coat on. Bitch, I would have been so hot. Hot with no clothes on. I'm so hot.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Little drips of sweat condensation coming down the front of the dress.

[AJ Holiday]

Maybe we jealous. I don't know. Tad bit of envy. I don't know.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Body. No.

[AJ Holiday]

But this is along the lines of, like, how we see young girls. And we might sound like aunties to y'all on this episode. I don't know, right? But I feel like some of y'all be trying to dress like the Grammys, like, going to the club or just on your. Like, we see y'all going out on your social media and like that. Y'all will. Y'all are liable to wear some like this, like, straight fishnet. Well, Willow.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Willow had on draws. She looked cute because she's so petite. But I think thick girls are gonna, you know, latch onto that. Next thing you know, everybody outside. Withdrawals in a jacket looking fool. A long jacket withdraw. What was on Jay in here?

[AJ Holiday]

A house. It was. I don't know. Adam's family. I don't know what it was that. The look he was going for. I'm not sure that boy different because.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

It was like the camera had planned at the audience and everybody was clapping for somebody. He was just standing in the audience. I was like, what is happening, Jenny, you okay, baby?

[AJ Holiday]

That's what I'm saying. Like, those type of. That type of clothes and those type of looks. Outrageous, whatever it is. Because when we. When we did the Hip Hop Awards, what the safari came through with no shirt on and jewelry, jeans and boots. Like, no shirt. Like, he just outside, like, no shirt. He got a nice body, but where's your shirt? Where's your clothes? Y'all? Not at the. At an award ceremony, though. When we see y'all ass outside, like, where are you going? Why do you feel like you need to be naked?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I think. I mean, I guess it. Nudity is in right now. I guess being skinny Is like a wave. Like after, you know, the Zimpies went viral. How it has been.

[AJ Holiday]

Zimpies.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

The Zimpies. And then now everybody's completely naked ass. And listen, a young girl said to me, her getting her hair done because I was, you know, I've been shocked in the Paul by the amount of ass that's hanging out of the little skirts and stuff. And she said it's no different than cleavage. She said the little piece of ass hanging out the bottom of a skirt is no different than when women wear a shirt and have a little piece of, like, the front of the top of the cleavage showing.

[AJ Holiday]

And I was like, I agree, like, this much.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Just a tea a little bit.

[AJ Holiday]

A little tt. I agree a little bit. Right. Because I don't be having, like, excessive cleavage out. I feel like when I do, I'm always pulling at it. I'm not comfortable with it out like that.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

You know what I'm saying? So, like, even though, like, the thing I put on, I chose to wear is made for this, I'm still, like, always pulling. So that means that still, that's a me thing. So somebody else may feel very comfortable with their titties out. Like, chilling smaller titties maybe don't give.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

A. I can't listen either all my TDI or no tea out, because I ain't got none. You know what I'm saying? It ain't like I could be having just a little cleavage that don't work.

[AJ Holiday]

But no, baby, I don't think it's the same.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

No, because. Because you got a butthole down there and a vagina down there, you know, so. No, it's not the same. You're really like the top of the. The part of your cheeks right there is giving access to all your glory. It's right. Yeah. All your glory is right up under there.

[AJ Holiday]

Not the glory, Lady Mattel.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yeah, well, that's what my mama told me, and that's what I'm gonna tell y'all.

[AJ Holiday]

And then you don't have to dress like that if you're attention seeking. Like, you want attention from men. Like, you know, you gotta leave something to the imagination. My mom used to always tell me that because I dressed like a hoochie up until I was like, I don't know, 22. Like, I remember my mom cut my clothes up in high school. It wasn't much to cut because it was like a bunch of little ass clothes. She cut my clothes up so much so that she cut her sneakers. She had these. These beige Eraser bottom Reeboks. And while she was cutting my clothes up, she slit. She almost cut her toe off. And she continued to wear them sneakers for about a year. But my mama would not buy me no school clothes after she done cut my clothes up.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

So how were you? I have no clothes, though.

[AJ Holiday]

I used to. I always worked, you know what I'm saying? I bought my own clothes. So I did used to have like some little hoochie, like super short. And I feel like you just got to let people grow out of the hoochie stage. So we talking right now. But we probably did some hoochie, too. And it was so boys, not men, boys. Or maybe somebody daddy to look at us at that age. But you get older and you realize you don't got to do all that to track these, okay. Because granny was getting them bills paid with the goddamn. Okay, no problem.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I'm trying to think, did I dress like a slut ever? I feel like I always had a very conservative. Now, I did wear the little. Where you pull your thong up a little bit higher than your pants so.

[AJ Holiday]

You can see the lines of jeans on. Yeah, like low ride jeans.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yeah. But I never was really into, like shorts, like short skirts and short stuff because I always felt like my thighs and butt was too big for that. I just always in my mind look stank, you know, And I always see.

[AJ Holiday]

A looking stank and I'm like, damn. And I think I look up in some it and they don't care.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

They don't care. But I mean, I guess that is the moral story, though. I mean, mind your business, right?

[AJ Holiday]

But it doesn't look nice half the time. It really doesn't look nice, you know, like your ass hanging out. And then the bigger girls, they. Just because you could get in it don't mean you should wear it.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yeah. All right. Somebody gonna be mad at us for saying that, but.

[AJ Holiday]

I know, but I mean, somebody gotta tell you, we love you. Yeah, like, to me, that's love. Like, girl, like. And then what type of attention are you really attracting? Because the man will. Right? But is he going to stay with you? Is he going to keep you? Or you don't care? You will keep saying you don't care. You doing it for you. Y'all care. Yeah, I care about these. Okay. What these men think about y'all, for sure.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

But I don't know. These young girls, these.

[AJ Holiday]

They still care because they still getting pregnant. You still, like, was sleeping with this man to the point to where you're having his Child. And now you're not together because you are. Yeah, like we care. We always want to be loved. That's it. That's all it is.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

So what do you feel like the best era in fashion for women was.

[AJ Holiday]

I don't think when I think back to like, even, like, how we used to dress. Like, just think about freshman year in college. I feel like. No, I feel like actually my freshman year in college, we probably dressed more conservatively. But just walk around campus with heels and jeans. Like, where are you going at with heels on in college? Stupid.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

All day long. Where are you going? Don't do that. Y'all in school. I hope y'all, like, I hope y'all have gotten away from that. Where y'all understand that comfort is more important. You can be cute in comfort, comfortable.

[AJ Holiday]

Yeah, like, we're girl. Because the College of Charleston. If I go downtown right now and little tiny bit of heat than white kids feel out there. They half naked, too. It's just a different half naked. They got sneakers on. With gym broad tops and shorts on. Going to class.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

What was. I feel like the best era in fashion was, what, the 1920s. The flapper with the gloves.

[AJ Holiday]

That's what you mean. I let you know during our time.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

No, no, just period.

[AJ Holiday]

Okay.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

It's like, they look so classy. Even if they didn't have a liquor class. When they put on their clothing, they just look so classy.

[AJ Holiday]

Hair up or, like, curled big with gloves on, pent up hair.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Like, that was the best era in fashion.

[AJ Holiday]

Me and my homegirl said we're gonna start dressing like that. I really. I really do.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Maybe we should do that for our live show when we do our live, like, bring back. Bring back class.

[AJ Holiday]

They'll be like, who the is these grannies? Absolutely not.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Okay, Well, I just threw it out there.

[AJ Holiday]

Oh, absolutely not.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Pearl necklace on. They're like, oh, they have an old convention over Comedy Zone.

[AJ Holiday]

No. Hell no. We ain't dressing like that for a live show. But I do love that. That. That look.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

That was very.

[AJ Holiday]

And then it was fly as. I feel like winter is for fly. Like, y'all. Y'all would be dressing with, like, no clothes on. Y'all really don't know what to wear in the winter. Y'all still be half naked in the winter, right?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

When I went to that concert, the Baby Friends, our birthday bash, it was so many girls out there that looked like it was June. You look like you in June. In the middle of June and it's snow outside time. Titties out, ass out, stomach out. And I think. All right, so me personally, I think if you're gonna have something out, that's cool, but just pick one. So if you have your titties out, you shouldn't have on your. Your ass out too. If you have your stomach out, you shouldn't have your titties out as well. You know, just pick one and just let that be the skin that's showing. I'm a grandma.

[AJ Holiday]

No, I mean, they gonna say we sound like some grandmas, but what. Who are you really doing it for? Are you really going outside naked like that just because that's how you want to dress? Or are you just trying to garner attention?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I wish we could have. I wish we could have Bianca on here so she could do she talk. Because I've never seen her say nothing.

[AJ Holiday]

What she really did. She might be AI right.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

That might be a robo Tesla. You don't even know it.

[AJ Holiday]

Because it's like he be whispering her and telling her what to do and then she just does it. She just dropped her. Dropped her fur coat.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Drop your coat now, ass out, titties out. Like, looks move like that looks soft. Yeah, she do that look exfoliated. But I wanna. I would love to hear what she has to say. Do she talk? Has anybody. Y'all, if y'all heard her say anything, send me a clip because I want to see if it's real.

[AJ Holiday]

Shout out to Kanye, man. Shout out to the Grammys.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

All right, so my last. Last is let me wear what makes you happy. Ultimately, this life is about finding what makes you happy and living in that space. Right, but in the same breath. I don't want to see your ass. They're like, don't look over this way then, granny. Well, okay, whatever, that's fine too. But a complete nudity is. That's just next level. That's too much. But do what makes you happy. Who am I?

[AJ Holiday]

And it ain't just the young girls, because I know I sent you that Real Aunties of Atlanta clip where you got this grown ass lady? Yeah, Lighting a candle in her coochie and doing the Fire Child. That was her specialty when she was in the strip clubs back in the day.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

She made a lot of money doing that because ain't nobody else did that since.

[AJ Holiday]

Did you know that Magic City hasn't opened since like the 70s or 80s? That's a long time. Like, that's the longest running strip club in world history, right? I didn't know that. I didn't know he was Open that long. I saw the owner doing an interview. Was he on Vlad?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

It's been there a long time. As long as I can remember.

[AJ Holiday]

Yep. Anyway, yeah, it ain't just the young girls. It's the aunties, too, child. We got to do better. We got to be better examples, I hear, for the younger generation.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

You know what I'm saying? I don't know. It's just. I guess it's preference, Right. Or bring shame back. Shame. Shame.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Just a little. Just a little shame.

[AJ Holiday]

It's a tiny bit, man. Just a little bit. Because I think when you get older and you, you know, start being more mature, you actually gonna look back, and I meant and look like, man, what the. Was I doing?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Right? I know Melania looking back at some of these pictures. I'll be seeing her online, like, now. If I knew I was gonna be the first Lady, I probably wouldn't took them damn pictures right there.

[AJ Holiday]

She was working, though. It was appropriate, you know what I'm saying? Like, that she was doing that as a profession. These is doing this for free.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

That's where I got a problem with it. Like, I don't never have a problem with hoes. I got a problem with sluts. Y'all could say I'm slut shaming all day long because it don't make sense to me, because where is your money? Like, are you being paid to do this when you're being paid to do it? More power to you, but just doing.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

If it's transactional, yes.

[AJ Holiday]

Because otherwise, like, why are you doing it?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

What? They just like it.

[AJ Holiday]

You like being a hoe that bad is hard. It's hard to be a hoe. All right, y'all, we just rambling.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Oh.

[AJ Holiday]

And it's hard. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, listen. Yeah. If you're getting paid to do something, you're doing editorials. And that's where that's like, I. I bet you. Because Kanye is a train trend center, a trendsetter. Excuse me. You gonna around and see that on the Runway.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Yeah.

[AJ Holiday]

Okay. Because some of the other things that they. That he has done, he's pointed out showing how now these big designers are. Are biting. So we might end up seeing that. It's not fashion to me. But, I mean, I guess maybe her body's body is art to him. So he just wants people.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

It gotta be.

[AJ Holiday]

It gotta be to see her.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

And Kim's wasn't, apparently, maybe because hers is natural art. How do we know that's natural?

[AJ Holiday]

That don't look like work to me. She's just like slim ass lady.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Something been done to that shellac body.

[AJ Holiday]

All right, y'all, man, we get the up out of here. Okay? If you enjoyed this episode, y'all tune in every Thursday on the black effect iHeartradio app or wherever the you get your podcast at. This is your co host, AJ Holiday 2.0 on Instagrams. Follow me now and if you won't.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Get on Kick itam, guys or girls. If you have a guy that you want to send, or if you're a guy and you want to be a part of. For the love of Tam Bam. Next week for Valentine's Day, slide in our dms. Send a DM of your Instagram or your friend's Instagram that you want to participate because we're going to pick threes lucky candidates after my affection. So that's it?

[AJ Holiday]

That's all they get?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

What you mean?

[AJ Holiday]

So you ain't no hoe?

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Just got deleted. Like dream control all delete, y'all. I'm official Tam Bam on Instagram. Our Instagram is We Talk Back podcast, y'all. Slide in the dms. If you do have someone for that, remember, speak now.

[AJ Holiday]

And put some clothes on.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

Period. Put some clothes on your ass. We sick of it. Deuces.

[AJ Holiday]

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[John Cameron Mitchell]

This is John Cameron Mitchell and my new fiction podcast series, Cancellation island stars Holly Hunter as Karen, a wellness influencer who launches a rehab for the recently canceled. In the future, we will all be canceled for 15 minutes. But don't worry, we'll take you from broke to woke or your money back. Cancellation Island's revolutionary rehab therapies, like bad touch football, anti racism, spin class, and mandatory ayahuasca ceremonies are designed to force the council to confront their worst impulses. But everything starts to fall apart when people start disappearing.

[AJ Holiday]

Karen, where have you brought us?

[John Cameron Mitchell]

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[Kevin Smith]

Hey, kids, it's me, Kevin Smith.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

And it's me, Harley Quinn Smith.

[Kevin Smith]

That's my daughter, man, who my wife has always said is just a beardless, dickless version of me. And that's the name of our podcast, Beardless Me. I'm the old one.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

I'm the young one.

[Kevin Smith]

And every week we try to make each other laugh really hard. Sounds innocent, doesn't it? A lot of cussing, a lot of bad language. It's for adults only. Or listen to it with your kid. Could be a family show. We're not quite sure. We're still figuring it out.

[Harley Quinn Smith]

It's a work in progress.

[Kevin Smith]

Listen to Beardless me on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

[Damien Hirst]

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[John Cameron Mitchell]

Ow.

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