Today's episode features the second half of my conversation with Matthew Efird, as we move beyond Noah’s earthly 57½ hours and into the difficult road of learning how to live after he went to Heaven. (If you missed the first half of our conversation, click HERE.)

Matthew shares candidly about grief from a father’s perspective, which is something that often goes unseen, particularly after the death of a baby. He talks about the tension of wanting to protect and fix what can't be fixed, the importance of having other men show up and simply be present, and the practical ways friends and community carried their family through the hardest days.

We also discuss the emotional fog of grief, learning to take life one moment at a time, and the delicate balance of worshiping and weeping simultaneously. Throughout the conversation, Matthew continually points back to the faith that sustained his family and the phrase that became their foundation: Even though… we will.

This episode is filled with wisdom for grieving parents, especially dads, as well as practical insight for anyone who wants to walk alongside hurting families in meaningful ways.

In this episode, we discuss:

Grief from a father’s perspective
Why dads often feel unseen after infant loss
The importance of safe friendships and honest conversations
Helpful ways men supported Matthew during grief
Learning that “it’s okay to have a good day”
Practical advice for grieving dads
Why presence matters more than perfect words
The meaning behind “worshiping and weeping” at the same time
Taking grief one moment—and one step—at a time
The role of community in surviving loss
Common phrases to avoid when comforting grieving parents
The heart behind Matthew’s book and the Even Though We Will Foundation

Resources & Links:

Even Though We Will written by Matthew Efird

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