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In this special episode, the mic gets flipped. Charlie's friend James Choo steps in as host to uncover the story behind the person who's usually asking the questions.

From starting work at 12 years old to training alongside his dad, Charlie opens up about a childhood shaped by early responsibility and complicated support systems. They dig into the struggles at school, the tough love at home, and the moments that forced him to grow up faster than most.

But this isn't just about survival—it's about discovery. At 13, Charlie wrote his first workout program, channeling everything he was learning into something tangible. Years later, in college, he'd rediscover that same spark and skill, setting the foundation for everything that followed.

This is Charlie unfiltered—the hard parts, the turning points, and the origins of what would become the Woodgym. If you've ever wondered what drives the person behind the workouts, this is the conversation you've been waiting for.

A note on audio: This episode was recorded back in 2019 and was originally shelved. After the higher fidelity files were lost, we salvaged what we could from the iPhone video backup. The audio isn't perfect, but the story was too important not to share.