BONUS: Hayley Kiyoko

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Work in Progress with Sophia Bush – BONUS: Hayley Kiyoko

Release Date: June 5, 2026
Host: Sophia Bush
Guest: Hayley Kiyoko
Topic: Bringing Girls Like Girls to the Big Screen and the Power of Representation

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Overview

In this bonus episode, Sophia Bush sits down with singer, actress, and filmmaker Hayley Kiyoko for an inspiring and candid conversation. They focus on Hayley’s decade-long journey to bring her new film Girls Like Girls to theaters, the life-changing impact of LGBTQ+ representation, and the realities of women and queer creators navigating Hollywood. The discussion is personal, passionate, and rich in practical insight—especially for aspiring filmmakers and anyone hungry for diverse stories onscreen.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Impact of Representation

• Hayley reflects on what it would have meant as a teen to see a queer love story like Girls Like Girls in theaters:

  "Just even fathom being able to buy a ticket and seeing a love story between two girls that look like me... That did not exist at that time when I was 18 or I didn’t have access to that."
  — Hayley Kiyoko, 04:32

• The core joy is seeing people—especially queer youth—get access to a love story where they feel authentically represented.
• Representation is not just personally validating, it shapes possibility:

  "If I was 18 and I got to see that, I’d be like, oh my gosh, I can find love and like, I’m beautiful and like, I could be on the big screen or I could become an actress..."
  — Hayley Kiyoko, 05:05

Universal Resonance

• Hayley emphasizes the universal appeal of the film:

  "This film is not just for the youth, it’s for everyone... we’ve all had that moment where you’ve had to confront your crush... and it’s so terrifying."
  — Hayley Kiyoko, 05:48

Overcoming Industry Hurdles & Advice for Young Creators

• Hayley recounts the persistent barriers, the necessity of assembling the right team, and her own fear in having to “start all over again” after years of setbacks:

  "You need the right combination of people... In the beginning... it wasn’t working. The movie was not moving forward... I had to kind of start all over again."
  — Hayley Kiyoko, 07:58

• Support from key allies (like producer Mark Platt and Focus Features) was pivotal.
• Creating a pitch deck, constant pitching, and leveraging fan support (including from the original music video and book adaptation) all helped move the needle with studios.

Challenging “Niche” Narratives

• Hayley and Sophia passionately reject the label of “niche” for queer, women, and Asian stories:

  "It’s not being queer. Like, queer is mainstream, being Asian is mainstream. And like... those are three mainstream categories. Millions and millions of people that need to feel seen and heard and represented."
  — Hayley Kiyoko, 09:40

• Sophia underscores this:

  "We are literally 51% of the population... By the most conservative estimates, 1 in 5 people is queer... Like, what are we talking about? This is so stupid."
  — Sophia Bush, 10:28; 10:46

Building Solidarity in Storytelling

• Both speakers highlight the need for audiences to support original films—especially those by women, queer, and minority creators:

  "We have to show up for each other’s stories... So everyone at home is going to go watch this movie. Obviously, I’m just reiterating to you that that’s what your plan is this weekend."
  — Sophia Bush, 12:22

• Hayley points out that women filmmakers are just 5% of the industry and that change depends on consistent support:

  "If we want our stories told from our perspective... we have to show up for one another... And showing up can change [the industry]."
  — Hayley Kiyoko, 12:46

The Emotional Core of the Film

• Spoiler-free, Sophia remarks on the emotional complexity and conflict in the film, saying she instinctively rooted for the characters as she watched:

  "There’s a moment of, like, the conflict. And I just went, you know, I’m going like, no, please let it be okay. It’s... Oh, it’s so good. It’s so, so good."
  — Sophia Bush, 18:13

• Hayley responds with pride and gratitude:

  "I put literally my blood, sweat and tears and heart and my everything into this film."
  — Hayley Kiyoko, 18:23

The Soundtrack & Future Aspirations

• Girls Like Girls: Inspired by Soundtrack drops June 12th, preceding the film’s June 19th release.
• Hayley discusses her “work in progress”—envisioning a future creating and directing more projects that bring hope:

  "My hope is to continue to direct and to write music for my projects... to create hopeful career content for the mainstream... I’m just excited for Girls Like Girls to find the person that needs to watch it."
  — Hayley Kiyoko, 20:03

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Representation:

  "Getting to... see themselves represented on the big screen is, is everything. Is, is why I did this. Which is why I never gave up for 10 years of no’s."
  — Hayley Kiyoko, 04:46

• On Industry Obstacles:

  "We should have millions of girls like girls at this point... my hope is that we do and we can prove to our industry that we should have so many more films in theaters and to stop canceling our TV shows."
  — Hayley Kiyoko, 09:10

• On Showing Up for Each Other:

  "We have to show up for each other's stories... regardless ... whether it's our story or our best friend's story or our neighbor's story."
  — Sophia Bush, 12:22

• On Creative Tenacity:

  "You've given everyone a master class on tenacity, so thank you. Hats off to you, pal."
  — Sophia Bush, 20:48

• On Love and Support:

  "So make sure to go see Girls Like Girls this weekend, everyone. June 19th in theaters. Bring your friends. Bring your parents."
  — Hayley Kiyoko, 18:46–18:54

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 04:32 – Hayley on seeing herself onscreen and the importance of representation
• 05:48 – The universal journey of confronting your crush
• 07:58 – Hayley’s technical/practical advice on persistent filmmaking
• 09:10 – Challenging “niche” narratives in Hollywood
• 12:22 – The power of solidarity and supporting diverse stories
• 18:13 – Sophia’s reaction to the film’s emotional impact
• 20:03 – Hayley’s vision for future creative work and ongoing personal growth

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Conclusion

This episode is an inspiring testament to the value of telling authentic, underrepresented stories—and to the grit it takes to make those stories happen in Hollywood. Hayley Kiyoko’s Girls Like Girls is positioned as a milestone for queer representation, women’s filmmaking, and the importance of showing up for each other's art. The conversation is encouraging for anyone who’s ever felt marginalized, and deeply practical for creators seeking to make an impact.

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Don’t miss Girls Like Girls in theaters June 19th, and check out the soundtrack from June 12th!

Transcript

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[Haley Kiyoko]

Like, how would that impact me?

[Podcast Host (Main Interviewer)]

I think so, yeah.

[Haley Kiyoko]

It'd be, I mean, a, I would, I would just, I mean just even fathom being able to buy a ticket and seeing a love story between two girls that look like me.

[Podcast Host (Main Interviewer)]

Yeah.

[Haley Kiyoko]

Does did not exist at that time when I was 18 or I didn't have access to that. And so yeah. To know that so many people are going to be able to buy tickets and sit in a theater eating popcorn with their friends and get to see themselves represented on the big screen is, is everything. Is, is why I did this. Which is why I never gave up for 10, 10 years of no's. Like that is the moment that I've, I've worked really hard for, for, for, for everyone to be able to experience that. So I'm just, I just am so pinching myself that this is a reality and that they get to see themselves because it changes your life. Getting to, you know, if I was 18 and I got to see that, I'd be like, oh my gosh, I can find love and like, I'm beautiful and like, I could be on the big screen or I could become an actress or I could be like. It just opens up this can of like, possibilities and dreams. And so for people to get to see themselves represented, you know, can be life changing for, for a lot of people. And also too, like, this film is not just for the youth, it's for everyone. Like people who, you know. I think what's so universal about this story is it's not only just bold and unapologetically itself, but it's also every single person, whether you're queer or straight or wherever you come from. We've all had that moment where you've had to confront your crush to be like, do you like me or not? Are we in this or not? Are we getting married or not?

[Podcast Host (Main Interviewer)]

Or not? Yeah.

[Haley Kiyoko]

Are we? Like, what do you want from me? You know, we've all. And it's so terrifying to confront someone and to know you're either going to be happy or you're going to be crushed or you're going to be disappointed. And I think that's what's so special about this film is, is we all can see ourselves in this film and how scary that can be when you're navigating being a teen and trying to just not not only feel loved, but loved from yourself. But you're not aware of that yet.

[Podcast Host (Main Interviewer)]

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I'm just so excited for people. I'm so excited for you. I. I'm curious a little bit about some of the technical aspects because I know we have some great creatives and, and would be directors in the midst of our listenership. And for you not only to have gotten this made after 10 years, but to have co written it, to have directed it, I would wager there's some folks at home being like, well, then how did you keep going, like five years in when you'd heard no's, how long was the break? Did you wait three months and then go back to new people? Like, how did you put the financing together? Eventually some of the sort of technical guidance that we can give the youth these days from our positions. How did you get over the hurdles to get it done?

[Haley Kiyoko]

I think what I've learned is you need the right combination of people. Might have a combination of people. Like in the beginning of my journey, I had a certain combination of people and it wasn't working. The movie was not moving forward. We were constantly just, it was just not going. And so that relationship kind of ended and I had to kind of start all over again. And I was really scared about starting over again. But it also created space for new creatives to come in where. And this is when Mark Platt came in and Focus Features and you know, you do, I mean, we could do a whole other podcast, but you, you know, you do a deck, you do a huge pitch, you're constantly pitching yourself and it's just finding the right combination. And as a first time film maker, you know, there's potential risk whether you're gonna be, you know, succeed in, in the journey or not. And so, you know, having Mark Platt's support and cosign really helped. And he was so supportive and saw the vision and is an amazing ally and Focus Features has, you know, believed in the film since 2020 and has been trying to figure it out with us. And so it was just the right kind of combination. I think the book also really helped kind of move the conversation forward and, and the fans just showing the support of the story and kind of proving to Hollywood that like this story hasn't been told, which is borderline silly because we should have millions of girls like girls at this point and just proving to Hollywood that people will show up. And so, you know, my hope is that we do and we can prove to our industry that we should have so many more films in theaters and to stop canceling our TV shows and like, you know, it's not being queer. Like, queer is mainstream, being Asian is mainstream. And like, you know, there's so many people will be like, oh, this is such niche view of Asian. You have queer queer, your women. I'm like, those are three mainstream categories. Millions and millions of people that need to feel seen and heard and represented. Like, what are you talking about?

[Podcast Host (Main Interviewer)]

Yeah, it's also so crazy to me when they talk about women. Like, we're at niche. And I'm like, We are literally 51 of the population. Like, we're the majority show up to

[Haley Kiyoko]

theaters, we're the ones who show up to concerts. And it's like, give us what we want, you know? Yeah, like the stories that we want.

[Podcast Host (Main Interviewer)]

Yeah, we're not niche. And to be clear, like, by the most conservative estimates, 1 in 5 people is queer. So I'm like, you don't want 20 of the dollars that someone could be spending in the world. Like, what are we talking about? This is so stupid. And I think it's really important. Like, you said it, you know, this isn't just for young people. This, this movie isn't just for queer people.

[Haley Kiyoko]

No.

[Podcast Host (Main Interviewer)]

Like, this movie is for any person who's ever been in love with someone, who's ever been friends with someone, who's ever been trying to figure out their place in the world. Like, and that's something I find really important. A young filmmaker that I have been watching for a while who I think is so talented, is currently trying to sell a movie and was like, I'm, you know, I'm a young black female director. I need people to watch the. Oh, my God, what's it called? Happily in Tuscany. The In Tuscany movie that you.

[Haley Kiyoko]

Me in Tuscany?

[Podcast Host (Main Interviewer)]

Yes, you, me in Tuscany. Anyway, that's a terrible sales pitch on my part. But regardless, they've made an adorable rom com, but it happens to be a rom com with two young black leads. And this other filmmaker is like, I have nothing to do with that movie. But I am literally, literally being told that my movie selling depends on how that movie does. So, like, literally this weekend, I got in the house last night and I was like, turn it on this tv. Turn it on this tv. Turn it on the other. Leave it on the computer. And I like it.

[Haley Kiyoko]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Podcast Host (Main Interviewer)]

I streamed the movie on four devices. Just because I think we need to remember that whether it's our story or our best friend's story or our neighbor's story, like, we have to show up for each other's stories. So everyone at home is going to go watch this movie. Obviously, I'm just, I'm just reiterating to you that that's what your plan is this weekend. Thank you.

[Haley Kiyoko]

Yeah. Well, it is. It's the truth. And it's original. IP is so rare. You know, so many films that we've seen done over and over and over again. So just even supporting original IP and original. And filmmakers like, you know, women filmmakers are 5% of the industry. 5%. So if we want our stories told from our perspective. Yes, the male gaze, then we have to show up for one another and support our stories and use our voice because our voice is super powerful. And showing up is, is, can change, you know, my hope and goals. Girls Like Girls is a success and that a young filmmaker who's trying to get their story made doesn't have to go through the 10 years of treachery that I went through.

[Podcast Host (Main Interviewer)]

Yes.

[Haley Kiyoko]

And therefore we're able to get more representation on the screen. It's just a revolving door.

[Podcast Host (Main Interviewer)]

I love it. And it's also so good. I'm like really trying to be careful and not do spoilers because.

[Haley Kiyoko]

Oh, you saw the movie.

[Podcast Host (Main Interviewer)]

Yes, babe, I got an early screener. Give me a break.

[Haley Kiyoko]

Oh my gosh. We'll have to debrief.

[Podcast Host (Main Interviewer)]

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[Haley Kiyoko]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host (Main Interviewer)]

How do I.

[Haley Kiyoko]

There's many moments. There's little mini.

[Podcast Host (Main Interviewer)]

There's a moment of, like, the conflict. And I just went, you know, I'm going like, no, please let it be okay. It's. It's. Oh, it's so good. It's so, so good. Thank you.

[Haley Kiyoko]

I'm so proud of it. And I. I put literally my blood, sweat and tears and heart and my everything into this film. And so many people have worked so hard to. To make this film exist. So I appreciate that, you know, we get to have this conversation. And me too.

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The word.

[Haley Kiyoko]

So make sure to go see girls like girls this weekend, everyone.

[Podcast Host (Main Interviewer)]

June 19th in theaters 19th everyone. Y' all gotta go.

[Haley Kiyoko]

Bring your friends.

[Podcast Host (Main Interviewer)]

Yeah. Bring your whole crew. Bring your friends. Bring your parents. I also. She'll be like, I can't believe you told her. Ash got so mad at me that I watched it without her, granted. Like, I had to watch it in the middle of the day because, you know, work and I was.

[Haley Kiyoko]

I.

[Podcast Host (Main Interviewer)]

So I literally was like, okay, tonight I promise I'm gonna cook you dinner and we're gonna watch this movie together. So that's. That's what we're doing tonight on the day that we are recording this. It's so sweet. Okay, my dear, I am so excited for the movie. Like we said, friends, Girls Like Girls is out June 19th in theaters. Tickets are on sale now. And the gift that keeps on giving. Your movie gave you back your music. The official Girls Like Girls Inspired by soundtrack comes out June 12th. Go get it. Enjoy it. Love it. Before I let you go, I have to ask you, you know, you're in this moment where all of these incredible seeds you've sown are blooming right now. What feels like your work in progress,

[Haley Kiyoko]

this whole. The whole garden, the whole shebang, all those flowers. Yeah. I mean, my hope is to continue to direct and to write music for my projects, and I really see that so, so vividly for my future. And I just want to continue to create hopeful career content for the mainstream, you know, world and for. For people to be able to have easy access to it. And so I'm just excited for Girls Like Girls to find the person that needs to watch it and needs. Needs it most. And my hope is to tell many more stories afterwards.

[Podcast Host (Main Interviewer)]

Yeah, it's beautiful. Well, congratulations. I'm so happy for you. Not to sound like a parent, but I'm so proud of you. Like, artist, Artist. This stuff is so hard, and you really, you've given everyone a master class on tenacity, so thank you. Hats off to you, pal. I'm really excited.

[Haley Kiyoko]

It was so good to see you. Thank you.

[Podcast Host (Main Interviewer)]

So good to see you too. Becca also submitted a. An answer to what is your work in progress? And she said, focusing on our wedding. I was like, okay, girl. Touche.

[Haley Kiyoko]

I love that we've been very much like she was. You know, this is the movie year. And then we'll work on. On figuring out our wedding plans after work.

[Podcast Host (Main Interviewer)]

Oh, my God, I love it. I will volunteer to, like, lick stamps. Whatever you need. It's like my favorite thing.

[Haley Kiyoko]

Yeah, it's. It'll be really fun. Fun times.

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