Brooke Shields - part 2

Summary

Work in Progress with Sophia Bush — Brooke Shields (Part 2) | June 26, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this rich and engaging continuation, Sophia Bush welcomes back Brooke Shields for a candid conversation about the evolution of fame, embracing power and ownership, rejecting outdated humility, and taking creative control as an actress and executive producer. With characteristic warmth and wisdom, they dissect personal growth, professional challenges, the importance of self-advocacy, and what it means for women to take up space, particularly in entertainment.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Evolving Relationship with Fame

• Brooke reflects on 50 years of fame and how society’s view of fame, including the rise of social media and “internet sensations,” has shifted the meaning and value of celebrity.
• Used to feel fame was overwhelming, sought to be “regular,” but now sees fame as a tool and asset in her career, especially as she’s taken on more roles behind the scenes.
• Brooke:

  “I used to fight it...it felt like it was cannibalizing my life...I’ve had to come to this conclusion that it’s not going away. And I now look at it as a business...When I was able to sort of make that switch in my head, I didn’t resent it anymore.” [06:52]

2. Women, Power, and Ownership

• Ongoing pressure for women to be humble, unlike men who are encouraged to own their success.
• Power isn’t arrogance; it’s self-ownership.
• Brooke:

  “I want to keep telling them it’s not arrogance, it’s ownership and it’s a privilege to be able to have that.” [12:26]

• Sophia recalls advice from Connie Britton about accepting credit for achievements without downplaying effort:

  “She looked at me and she goes, ‘No, I'm not humbled. I worked for this.’” [18:09] – Connie Britton, as quoted by Sophia

3. The Cost of Self-Deprecation

• Brooke discusses the lifelong habit of self-deprecation to make others comfortable and how, as she’s matured, she’s working to unlearn it.
• Shares a pivotal story of breaking her femur, where—out of sheer instinct—she started to crack a joke to a paramedic who recognized her, despite immense pain. Her trainer urged her to stop, highlighting how deeply ingrained this behavior is.

  “I could see the paramedic recognized me in that moment...as in pain as I was, I started to say something like not Blue Lagoon but like something for Chilty, right?...My trainer grabs my shoulder and he goes hey. And I kind of looked up, he goes, you don't have to do that, stop it.” [24:22]

• Points out the need for “healthy humility”—the ability to celebrate oneself as a model for others.

4. Creative Control and Leadership on Set

• Details her new role as both star and executive producer on “You’re Killing Me,” sharing how she proactively pitched, shaped, and advocated for the show.
• Brooke on asserting creative control:

  “I fought for things. I fought for the title. I fought to keep the humor in...Networks…just keep her likable. And I'm like, no, the reason why these characters are likable is because they're flawed and they're funny.” [28:17]

• Enjoyed genuine collaboration and set culture, feeling respect for her leadership from crew and cast.

5. Advocacy, Boundaries, and Self-Care

• Both women admit ongoing difficulty giving themselves credit or setting boundaries, often saying yes out of obligation or exhaustion.
• Brooke:

  “I think where I am a work in progress is giving myself a little bit more of a pat on the back and knowing that I really do have to take care of myself...not being afraid to speak up for myself and for things that don’t feel right to me, and not saying yes to absolutely everything because I just, I’m tired.” [43:33]

6. Practical Advice & Memorable Moments

• Celebration without Guilt:
  Rejecting “humble” as the default, advocating for healthy humility and celebration of women’s achievements without self-shrinking.
• Best idea wins:
  Both talk about “the best idea always wins” in creative settings, whether it comes from the “electrics” on set or the star, and how this collaborative attitude lifts everyone:

  “I don’t have to diminish myself to make anyone else happy. And actually, if I don't diminish myself, maybe I can encourage other people to be as big as they are.” [38:31]

• Self-Advocacy in Healthcare:
  Brooke shares a story about advocating for her own medical care, reinforcing the importance of trusting your instincts and speaking up.

7. About “You’re Killing Me”

• Brooke’s new Acorn TV show is described as cozy, entertaining, and cross-generational; viewers can watch it with family or friends and simply enjoy.

  “You leave feeling lighter because you forgot everything...it’s a feel good...there’s room for just entertainment and it’s okay to laugh and…it’s not gory.” [41:52–43:13]

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Notable Quotes

• On Fame & Power:

  “Owning that power, that fame or whatever you want to call it, has given it this...purpose to me in a very different way.” — Brooke Shields [09:42]

• On Humility vs. Ownership:

  “It’s not arrogance, it’s ownership and it’s a privilege to be able to have that.” — Brooke Shields [12:26]

• Connie Britton's Wisdom (via Sophia):

  “No, I'm not humbled. I worked for this.” [18:09]

• On New Era of Career:

  “I walked into this whole thing...from every step of the way, I watched them look at me differently and look at my history and my experience...and I set an example.” — Brooke Shields [29:45–30:43]

• On Work in Progress:

  “I think where I am a work in progress is giving myself a little bit more of a pat on the back and knowing that I really do have to take care of myself.” — Brooke Shields [43:33]

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Important Timestamps

• Evolution of Fame: [06:03–12:25]
• Power and Humility: [12:26–22:36]
• Breaking the Self-Deprecation Habit: [22:36–26:20]
• On Set as EP: [27:30–31:57]
• Ownership & Collaboration: [34:54–40:56]
• “You’re Killing Me” Discussion: [41:11–43:13]
• Personal “Work in Progress” Reflections: [43:33–45:33]

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Final Thoughts

This episode is a dynamic, empowering exploration of what it really means to be both a "masterpiece and a work in progress." From the shifting sands of stardom to asserting one’s place in the room, both Sophia and Brooke underscore the liberation and value in stepping up, speaking out, and celebrating one’s own achievements—without apology.

Transcript

[Brooke Shields]

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[Podcast Host Sophia]

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[Brooke Shields]

Like, what is that? You know, so that's a question, actually, that is surprising me not now because it's been coming up. It's surprising that it has been coming up of late. And I'm sort of wondering what is in the zeitgeist and what is interesting, I think, because with. With Internet sensations and TikTok stars and reality shows and. Right. And you ask a kid what they want to be when they grow up and they say famous, you know, you used to be. I want to be a doctor or I want to be this. I think people are starting to really look at fame differently. Like, what does it really mean? Right? And is it good? Is it bad? Is it purposeful? Is it. Because it doesn't. It. It doesn't rely on the same criteria that it used to rely on in many ways. And infamous and famous is also, you know what I mean? Like that sort of. The relationship between those two things, I think is very different in this day and age and for this next generations coming up. What I have. I used to fight it. I used to try to shy away from it, try to hide it, don't want to revel in it, don't want to. Don't want to own it because it just came with too much and it felt like it was cannibalizing my life, right? So I fought for. To be regular and I fought to real friends and I. And I fought f. Fought. I get an education and all those things and you kind of come to this. I've had to come to this conclusion that it's not going away. And I now look at it as a business. And when I was able to sort of make that switch in my head, I didn't resent it anymore. And yes, I still want privacy. And I, And I, you know, I'm always amazed at how people don't listen when they're, you know, they come up and they have to tell their story to you. And you, you know, they. I knew you. I had your jeans or your doll or your this, and you were in my locker and, and, and you're like. And you could be literally saying, like, I'm actually bleeding out right now, and if I don't get to the hospital, I probably will die right here, and it's gonna be ugly and really messy. And, and you. You could literally have a narrative that is that. And they go, I know, right? And, and. And this and the. And you're just like, wow, people really need to just make it about them in that moment. And they're desperate for it. And that used to make me crazy, you know, and it used to be. And then. And then the selfie and the autograph, and you're just kind of going, like, there's nothing to do with me. It's all about you. Then I just sort of stopped and said, okay, first of all, let's have empathy for those people, because if this is the most exciting thing that's happened to them, like, I feel bad, you know, if I'm it, you know, or if that moment is so important to them, let. Let them have it. But also, you know, say thank you and. And. But I have to catch a plane or. Or whatever it is. And you can be kind and you can still protect yourself, but as an actress, you know, I've had to look at it more as a commodity element and use it and access it and pick up that phone call and call an executive. And, you know, where I never would have done it. I was, you know, I only be humble and be smaller and be everybody. You know, don't, you know, walk onto a set and be. I have to walk onto a set, and I can be kind and have wonderful work ethic, but. But I'm the boss and I have to act like it. And owning that power, that fame or whatever you want to call it, has given it this. Its purpose to me in a very different way. And, you know, it got me a pickup on a show. You know what I mean? And I know it did because of all the publicity I did and the people wanted. And I thought, okay, don't resent it. It's not taking from your life. If you can harness it appropriately and don't ever overuse it, but use it correctly and fairly, you can have a long, longer career, you know, And I think that that's been only in older years. Wow. You know, I love that. It's. It's a little. It took me a while because in a way, I was like, oh, that's ew. But then I started looking at it as an executive producer and as a. As someone. You know, I was talking to the head of the. The union, and we were at an AFL CIO event, which was all the different unions and the presidents of all the unions and Actors Equity was there, and I went as the president. And this one woman is just such a dynamo, and she runs all of. I mean, she runs the automotive union and the construction workers union. And she's just this lovely mom and this beautiful. Like, she's just a great person. And she said, to me. She called me up one day and she's like, I have to tell you something. And I said, okay. She said, you don't, you don't step into your power and you deserve to and you really, really should. And she said, not just as a union leader because it's the most uncomfortable thing for me, but because it's all about taking the attention and speaking on behalf, I can speak on behalf of people and for people, but I'm used to being of the people more. And I think that she said that's, that's, that's known more. You've to stand in it and be as big as you can be. And, and I had a therapist who said the same thing. And it was a, it's been a very interesting few years of being okay walking into a room with my head held high and not apologizing, you know, and I think that, that, I think many women do experience that.

[Podcast Host Sophia]

Yes.

[Brooke Shields]

And, and I, I want to keep telling them it's not arrogance, it's ownership and it's a privilege to be able to have that. And yeah, that's changed while I've been getting to this sort of stage in my life and I'm taking more risks and I'm. And then there's a freedom in it too. And it's amazing what people want that from you, you know, they want, they want that, they look to it. And so you putting yourself down is not, is not helpful to them, you know.

[Podcast Host Sophia]

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[Podcast Host Sophia]

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[Brooke Shields]

And I went.

[Podcast Host Sophia]

And it was this sort of moment where I was like, oh, yeah, yeah. And also like, you're Brooke Shields, she's Connie Britton. You know, like, I'm looking at my friends going, oh, right. And I could see it for other people, always. And I could do exactly what you're saying. I could say, step into your power, know your worth, organize for more. Our unions deserve a raise. People deserve healthcare. You know, everyone deserves rights. Dah, dah dah, dah, dah, dah dah. And it took me until the last couple of years to realize I can inhale and, and expand and speak out. Power. More power for us. I take it away from myself in every second, all the time. And I, and I am currently in a season where I am trying to recalibrate my relationship with and my comfort with who I am. Like, I can look at every woman in my life and say, you are first name, last name. Can I say that about myself? And it is a really interesting moment to go, oh, I'm sort of an expert analyst at systems that affect us negatively in the world. And I have not given myself the same grace to look at the way I have been impacted by a system that wants to take worth away from women. Whoa. Like, it's a crazy, it's a crazy moment. And it's really cool to hear you take talking about owning your power when you walk in a room because I, I've thought of you as like this gorgeous, powerful person for as long as I've known you.

[Brooke Shields]

I mean, it's, I think that's a common thing. I think women are so used to holding other people up and, and taking care of and supporting and you know, you, you, you spend it all and then you don't have it for yourself. And it's like, yeah, yeah, her, but. And you were a part of the, like somehow not a part of the club. Yeah. And I think, you know, I also. Humility is an interesting Being humble and being. I always thought that that was the key. And I had, I had a trainer once who said, I will never teach my children to be humble. And I said, wow, I always thought that that was a good thing. I thought those who weren't humble were arrogant. And he said, I'm not saying you have to be bad or arrogant or mean or stuck up or anything like that, but you walk into a room leading with being humble and you've just made yourself smaller. You can be gracious, you can be thankful, you can be humbled by seeing something unbelievable that's beautiful or that's something in a child. You know, that is, that is being brought to the, to the core of. That's not bad.

[Podcast Host Sophia]

Healthy humility, maybe.

[Brooke Shields]

Healthy humility and willingness to, willingness to celebrate yourself. Because how do we expect others to do it if we don't, you know. And you think, I mean I used to think, oh I'll self deprecate and then they'll, they'll like me and then they'll, they'll stick up for me and then you start believing your self deprecation and then you start actually being self deprecated to yourself and then you're like oh wait a minute. And then you're mad because you feel less than.

[Podcast Host Sophia]

Yeah.

[Brooke Shields]

And it's very, it's the opposite of arrogance and it's taken me quite some time and listen, it served me in the beginning, do you know what I mean? Because people did like me and they did want to work with me and I did make friends and it did put people at ease at first when they first met me because I was famous and they weren't or whatever. And it's a shtick, you know, and it's funny at times but as I've gotten older it just doesn't fit the same way. And, and, and that's freeing too, you know. But it's kind of daily. You sort of have to. I have to work on it daily because I'll fall right into the pattern again so quickly. And I, I was. This is a crazy story. I broke my femur and I was a couple of few years ago and I was on the ground in a gym and I just finished this like crazy two week challenge that I don't know, I needed to do it for whatever reason and the paramedics are there and I'm on the ground and I mean I'm in the kind of pain that is unfathomable. I mean like animal sounds are coming out of me and I could see the paramedic recognized me in that moment. He recognized me. And without missing a friggin beat as in pain as I was, I started to say something like not Blue Lagoon but like something for Chilty, right? To like. Cause I saw it in his eyes.

[Podcast Host Sophia]

You were gonna crack the joke. That always plays well.

[Brooke Shields]

Right. And within a second my trainer grabs my shoulder and he goes hey. And I kind of looked up, he goes, you don't have to do that, stop it. And it was that moment that then I ended up being just able to just. I think I passed out because of the pain. But it was, I thought wow, this is so hardwired into me. Yes. I'm even doing it with a broken femur and I'm dying.

[Podcast Host Sophia]

Who.

[Brooke Shields]

They didn't know if I was internal bleeding or like it was so, so dire. And serious. And I did it even that second. And this was like five years ago, maybe. And I remember, like, waking up in the hospital and being in excruciating pain and they wouldn't give me another X ray. And I finally said, look, if you want me to be a hysterical female, I can do it. I said, I'm really good at it. And I said, but give me another X ray. Thank God I did, because my bone had popped off the. The device. And I thought, self advocacy.

[Podcast Host Sophia]

Yep.

[Brooke Shields]

And not. Don't do it anymore. Just stop. Just. It's not. It's not attractive either. It's not good for your girls.

[Podcast Host Sophia]

You know, you don't have to poke fun at yourself to make other people comfortable. And it's hard.

[Brooke Shields]

It's hard. And, you know, again, there is a shtick in it that kind of does serve you in a way, but it's. It doesn't feel like it fits anym. That's been really kind of eye opening for me in this era of my life.

[Podcast Host Sophia]

Well, when you talk about how it doesn't fit and it's a new era and there is a new job, and you've said you are the boss. You are the executive producer. You know, you, by the way, fought to defend the title of your show, and I love that it stuck. You're killing me is. It's the perfect phrase. It's the perfect, perfect joke. It's. It's also a little bit of spice in the cozy core mystery world, you know, for those of us who were raised on Angela Lansbury. Like, I love that you have managed to thread this needle for yourself. And I'm really curious, did you set kind of intentions for this on day one? Because you've been on this journey of, oh, the old shtick doesn't fit. Did you go into this job a new version of yourself?

[Brooke Shields]

Very much so. And I was spearheading the whole thing. I mean, I reached out to the showrunner, and I had worked with her multiple times, and I knew she got my humor and I knew her writing was smart. And I called her and I said, look, I know we've done movies and episodes here and there of things. I said, but let's. Let's write a. Let's create a show. Let's find a vehicle. And she was like, well, mysteries are very popular right now, and only Murders in the Building and Matlock and Murder, She Wrote and all of those that kind of. It's kind of coming back and it's this cozy mystery sort of a thing. And I said, you know, there's a huge appeal and it is very much a big chunk of my audience. And I said, let's. And we just started talking and brainstorming. And I said, you know, I'm fascinated by generational differences and I have kids who make fun of me and they are in their 20s. And it's funny, but it's also. We both teach each other. So we brought that kind of put in the mystery world. She came up with this sort of idea, this character. And every step of the way, I knew I was going to be an executive producer, but I'd never been an executive producer that had that much talent, say, and that, you know, AMC would call me and say, what do you think about this? Or how about this director and these actors and what about this? And they actually wanted my opinion. Yeah. And I fought for things. I fought for the title. I fought to keep the humor in. You know, they get very safe with me. They want me to just be non offensive and pretty and not, you know, networks, you know, just keep her likable. And I'm like, no, the reason why these characters are likable is because they're flawed and they're funny. And we're not doing bloody gory. We're doing Agatha Christie. We're doing a little bit of a little wink without taking you out of it. But we're doing things that are relationship oriented. And these people you care about, I mean, yes, there's a body that's gonna drop every week, right? Sleepy little town, little fishing, sleep, safe little fishing town, something cove.

[Podcast Host Sophia]

We love it.

[Brooke Shields]

Yeah. And. But I. I walked into this whole thing. I pitched it with her. We pitched it to AMC and AMC Acorn and. And from every step of the way, I watched them look at me differently and look at my history and my experience and nostalgia and fame and all of those pieces put together. And then I worked my ass off for the, for the show and for the edit and for the pr. And I said, you know, you guys have the capacity and the capability to make this a hit or not. I will. I will do everything I can. And I know I can get the publicity and get the outlets and the. I mean, to be on these competing shows. I don't know how the press department did that, but, you know, normally if you do one, you can't do the other, and.

[Podcast Host Sophia]

Right.

[Brooke Shields]

Yeah, everybody owns you. And it just. I kind of really looked at it and I walked on to set every day and I set an example. And you watched it in the electrics you watched it in the gaffers, you watched it in the dolly pole, you know, and guys, these crunchy old guys would come up, you know, came up to me and said, you know, you really make this an enjoyable place to be and you make me laugh every day and it's really good. We want to, like. And these guys have been pulling cable for, you know, 50 years, you know what I mean? And they've seen it all. And there was such respect for the way that I set the tone for the, for the set and people worked extra hard and it was just, it was so great to sort of be able to be that example and feel, really not feel arrogant about it, but just feel like I did earn the right to have these opinions and also say, like, please prove me wrong and I will defer to your expertise. And I love that. And I will learn as well. And that's important too, because it doesn't mean I'm always right, you know.

[Podcast Host Sophia]

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[Podcast Host Sophia]

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[Brooke Shields]

You know, I've learned a lot from, like my husband in. In the writing room, you know, and, you know, they write a script and then put it to the room and they're all around a table and what about this as a joke? Or what if he did this? Or what if she said this? And it becomes. It's augmented and the power of all of it, the collective. And nobody is fighting for their idea just because it's their idea. The best idea does make it into the script, you know, and so, I mean, how cool.

[Pharmaceutical Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Brooke Shields]

And I think that's great. I mean, writing books, too, and having a really good editor and not. And having an editor that doesn't just say, well, write this. Instead, they have a series of questions that they choose to pose to you so that my. The editors that I've had, that I've really enjoyed working with, have given me the ability to. To come up with the best way to say something because they've asked certain questions of me and. And helped guide me into thinking about it differently. Instead of saying, here, write this, you know, and that. That, I think is in most creative endeavors if you're lucky, you know, I love that.

[Podcast Host Sophia]

What do you want the friends listening at home to know about the show? Obviously, everyone, if you've been living under a rock. You're killing me. Is on Acorn tv. It's such. It's just such like a delicious thing to watch.

[Brooke Shields]

First of all, it's. You really hook into these two women and their. How they are navigating together, coming from very different lives and experiences and ages and. And I think that, first of all, people have a hard time finding Acorn. It's really easy to do. You just go on to whatever you. You stream through, whether it's like Roku or whatever. Yeah. And search. And then you can search the show or search Apple. You can even go on to Amazon, I think, and you can find it. But it. It's there and it's like, it pops up first. So that's been interesting to try to help educate people on how to get Acorn, because not everybody has Acorn.

[Podcast Host Sophia]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Brooke Shields]

But is that you can watch it with all types of people. Like, you don't. You can watch it with your kids. You can watch it with a partner. You can. And it's just entertainment. And you will laugh and you will have your heartstrings pulled every now and then, and you will, you know, it. It's a great escape. It's, you know, it's 45 minutes or whatever with commercials or whatever, and it's just. You kind of watch it and you leave feeling lighter because you forgot everything. And that's crazy in the world.

[Podcast Host Sophia]

You mean an enjoyable TV watching experience. Remember those?

[Brooke Shields]

And you just sort of feel like, oh, I feel like I just took a yoga class or something, you know, and you laughed and you've cried. It's better than Cats. And it's just a. It's a feel good, they say, cozy mysteries and I don't know. I mean, that gets kind of a little schmaltzy in my opinion, the way that sounds. But. But it's definitely, you know, there's room for just entertainment and it's okay to laugh and it's okay to, you know, and we're not. It's not gory. You don't get a sick feeling in your stomach, you know, like, so much of it that I watch, and I'm just like, oh, God. And makes you feel good.

[Podcast Host Sophia]

I love that there's so much that you've done. And I. I know you're not. I know you're not hanging anything up anytime soon. So when you think about, you know, how life feels right now and how fulfilling it is, what feels like your work in progress still?

[Brooke Shields]

I mean, probably everything. I mean, you know, I'm gearing up for the second season and already I'm already fighting just like, already having conversations like, no, we have to get the writers room started two weeks earlier, not two weeks later. Yeah, yeah. No, we have to build the sets. It was like all these things, but I think I'm. I think where I am, a work in progress is giving myself a little bit more of a pat on the back and knowing that I really do have to take care of myself. And that means sleeping, and that means physically and because I will run. So, I mean, look at my arm. I'm in a huge cast. What happened? My muscle was starting to attach itself around a nerve and killing the nerve, and I was losing feeling in my hands. And, you know, you don't want to be. You don't want to be the crazy lady, you know, And I finally just said to this doctor, I was like, can you do all the tests, please? Because turns out something's up. Something was up and you know, better about your body. So I think where I am a work in progress as natural. Not really not being afraid to speak up for myself and for things that don't feel right to me and not saying yes to absolutely everything because I just, I'm tired. I'm just tired.

[Podcast Host Sophia]

I know.

[Brooke Shields]

I really am. And, you know, it's okay. You don't owe anybody anything. You know, I mean, yes, there are kids, but, but that, it's, that comes from a different place, you know, But I think, you know, this, this obligatory yes, yesness, you know, it's just doesn't. Doesn't feel good anymore, you know?

[Podcast Host Sophia]

Yeah. Yeah, that's. I think that might be my work in progress too, my friend.

[Brooke Shields]

Wow. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

[Podcast Host Sophia]

Oh, well, I love it. I mean, for everyone at home, catch up on the whole season of your killing. Yeah, it's like, it's perfect. It's, it's, it's like a great weekend of being entertained and then we can all be ready for season two to come out.

[Brooke Shields]

Yes. Thank you. Well, thank you so much. And I just, I'm so happy this is a, this is a piece of what you're doing right now because I think not only could I listen to your voice always, forever, but you have so much to say and you're so smart and lovely and it's. And I'm glad people are getting to experience it.

[Podcast Host Sophia]

Thanks, honey. Friends. The Trump administration and its backers in Congress are messing around with our health care. They have already passed a law supposedly defunding Planned Parenthood, which blocks Medicaid patients from getting life saving care like cancer screenings, wellness exams, birth control, STI treatment, and more. And now these lawmakers want to shut down health centers by defunding Planned Parenthood permanently. Our communities deserve better. To learn how you can get involved, text the word update to 22422.

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[Podcast Host Sophia]

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[Brooke Shields]

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