Jerry O'Connell - Part 1

Summary

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"Work in Progress with Sophia Bush"

Episode: Jerry O'Connell – Part 1

Podcast Date: February 11, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this lively and heartfelt on-set conversation, Sophia Bush welcomes her friend and co-star Jerry O'Connell for an in-depth chat while filming "Summer's Last Resort" in South Africa. The episode explores Jerry’s legendary, decades-long career – from child acting and his breakout in "Stand By Me," to lessons from Rob Reiner, his life as a husband and dad, and his comedic sensibility. It’s also a candid look at life on set, parenting, ambition, career anxieties, and the pressures and joys of being "a masterpiece and a work in progress." Expect plenty of laughter and honesty as Sophia and Jerry reflect on growing up in the business and supporting others through it.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Recording On Set: The Setting of Friendship (03:26–06:28)

• Sophia shares that they're recording inside her (spacious) hotel suite in South Africa, bantering about Jerry’s much smaller room. They debate logistics and sound quality, vividly painting the picture of a fun but exhausting film shoot.
  • Quote: “My hotel room is—you walk in, the bed is right there. There is a small desk which I write letters on. I'm kidding.” – Jerry (06:28)

Jerry’s Upbringing, Family, and Early Career (07:39–13:00)

• Jerry details his background: growing up in a diverse, accepting Greenwich Village in the '80s, being a hyperactive child, and having artist parents who encouraged his creativity. His parents sent him to improv acting classes to channel his energy, which led directly to his early acting work.
• He credits that environment for his openness, resilience, and acceptance of all kinds of people.
  • Quote: “My parents put me in an acting class when I was a kid. Yeah. Because I wasn't shutting up and I wasn't sitting on my hands.” (23:49)
  • Quote: “I just have been chasing that older kid, smoking a cigarette, saying, ‘You’re really funny in that scene’ ever since.” (25:13)

The “Shut Up and Sit on Your Hands” Mantra (11:26–12:25)

• Jerry humorously reflects on the childhood advice from his mother to “shut up and sit on his hands,” which shaped how he’s managed impulsivity and blurting things out.
  • Quote: “‘Shut up and sit on your hands.’ That was my mantra through my life.” (12:25)

Marriage, Long-Distance, and Family Life (13:45–16:16; 78:36–81:41)

• Jerry describes his 20-year marriage with Rebecca Romijn (noting she’s also an actress/model), sharing insights on sustaining love while careers take both partners abroad for long stretches, and how communication and trust change with time.

  • Quote: “I know I’m in a loving relationship because...I talk to my wife now every day. And now that I’ve been away for a little over three weeks, I can hear how happy my wife is that I—I'm not joking, Sophia!—you know this is true. There is like an ease that comes with that.” (14:41)

• Later, they muse on empty-nesting, loneliness, and maintaining connection:

  • “Once it’s over, it’s—a real emotional shift. There's all this energy...and then that energy is going to be gone.” – Jerry (78:57)
  • “You have a high frequency. You're interested. You want to go for walks. Like, we lost you on set yesterday; you were swimming in the fucking ocean.” – Sophia (81:41)

Sophia’s Maternal Set Energy & Learning to Lead (26:07–35:30)

• Jerry highlights Sophia’s empathy and leadership on set, particularly her “maternal” care for younger cast and crew, contrasting with his own "every man for himself" approach.

  • “You’re very maternal on set...You make sure people are being taken care of.” – Jerry (26:07)

• Sophia shares her instinct to protect and nurture comes from childhood and family, recounting both positive and adverse experiences that shaped her, especially during "One Tree Hill":

  • “When I got on set, I saw a lot of the opposite from people in power...And then there were really wonderful people who did...I think for me...leaning into producing...allows me to help set a tone on a set and make sure I can have everyone’s back.” (28:29)

• She learned through trial and error when her care helped – and when, as an actor, she had to let others handle hard conversations to avoid being misperceived:

  • “Sometimes I have to say, like, shut up and sit on your hands. You gotta go talk to an ad...Because if they go do it, they're very firm and professional. But if I do it, I’m a—[expletive]” (33:34)

The Realities of Career on the Road (56:44–62:07)

• Jerry notes how much of Sophia's adult life has been lived on the road. Sophia describes the "Twilight Zone" quality of set life versus real life, building relationships, and learning to distinguish work and home. She values real, lasting friendships forged across many years and cities.
  • Quote: “It was sort of this aha moment, I think, for all of us to go, oh yeah, wow, that’s wild. And then you can try to build a life at home, but you’re never really there. And that presents its own set of challenges.” (57:51)

Child Acting Memories: "Stand By Me" and "One Tree Hill" (62:19–66:20)

• Jerry reflects with wonder on how his childhood filming "Stand By Me" feels at once deeply personal and weirdly public, as fans recount those memories back to him.

  • “My memories of it are of a kid...The fact that people still to this day come up and talk to me about it is kind of the surreal part.” (62:19)

• Sophia and Jerry discuss the reality of filming pivotal moments—like Sophia's grandfather dying during the high school graduation scenes on "One Tree Hill"—and the inability to pause production for personal tragedy.

  • “I remember when we were shooting all the high school graduation stuff, Season four, was the day my grandfather died...A producer had to walk up to me and say, it’s been five minutes. We need you back on set.” – Sophia (65:16)

• Both reflect on how their emotional memories are often tied to what was happening in their real lives more than what's on-screen.

Craft, Comedy, and Evolving Roles (66:35–76:17)

• Jerry praises Sophia’s extensive on-set craft after years in long-form TV. He contrasts the experience and professionalism from the “old school” network era with younger actors from newer, social media–driven backgrounds.

  • “You have a real old school craft...I don’t think I’ve ever worked with someone who had a decade of experience. Thousands of hours of experience.” (67:15)

• On comedy, riffing, and typecasting, Jerry shares that despite being known for comedic parts, he’d love to sink his teeth into dramatic roles. Both reflect on wanting more diverse opportunities in their careers.

  • “Oh, we’re doing a family comedy—get Jerry O’Connell. He’ll be good. I would like to do some dramatic roles...I know you can’t tell from this interview, but I’m a somewhat serious person.” – Jerry (75:53)

Wig (and Haircut) Mishap: A Showbiz Story (44:49–52:29)

• Sophia recounts a recent on-set hair disaster—getting part of her real hair unexpectedly chopped while prepping for a wig. She uses this as a window into her present emotional resilience and how “I don’t flip out anymore,” thanks to therapy and self-work.
  • Quote: “I said, it’s done. Like, what’s the point? And truly, this is how I know my therapist is as important to me as I say he is. I just—I don’t flip out. I just don’t care...But my sprout is sad.” – Sophia (49:52)

Podcast within a Podcast: Interviewing the Host (39:22–44:13)

• Jerry turns the tables on Sophia, peppering her with questions about work, conflict, and leadership, keen to reveal her character to listeners.
  • “Sophia may be one of the most intriguing persons I’ve ever worked with.” – Jerry (39:27)

Cherished On-Location Camaraderie (76:21–78:36)

• They share the joys (and sometimes challenges) of location shooting: late-night dinners, group games, forming a mini family with the cast and crew, and being each other's support network far from home.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On childhood advice: “Shut up and sit on your hands. That was my mantra through my life.” – Jerry (12:25)
• On giving and receiving professional care: “You’re very maternal on set...You make sure people are being taken care of.” – Jerry (26:07)
• On being out of town for filming: “It’s sort of like living in the Twilight Zone all the time.” – Sophia (57:51)
• On emotional moments on set: “I remember when we were shooting all the high school graduation stuff...was the day my grandfather died...A producer had to walk up to me and say, it’s been five minutes. We need you back on set.” – Sophia (65:16)
• On showbiz resilience: “I just—I don’t flip out. I just don’t care...But my sprout is sad.” – Sophia, on her wig/hair mishap (49:52)
• On meeting Sophia: “You’re really an interesting person. You really are. And it’s honestly why I came in here wanting to ask a couple questions about you, because I think people have a right to see what a character you are. You’re like an old-school movie star.” – Jerry (73:49)

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Important Timestamps

• 03:26–06:28: Sophia and Jerry set the scene in South Africa; playful banter about hotel rooms.
• 07:39–13:00: Jerry’s childhood, Greenwich Village, and discovering acting.
• 13:45–16:16: Marriage, distance, and authentic partnership.
• 26:07–29:23: Maternal leadership on set; Sophia’s journey to producing.
• 56:44–62:07: Life spent on location, the blending (and separation) of real life and set life.
• 62:19–66:20: Jerry’s memories of “Stand By Me” and Sophia’s of “One Tree Hill”; handling personal loss during production.
• 66:35–67:54: Generational changes and professional craft in acting.
• 44:49–52:29: The “Sprout” hair mishap story and Sophia’s approach to conflict.
• 73:49–75:11: Jerry on wanting to break typecasting and praising Sophia’s versatility.
• 76:17–78:36: The cast’s camaraderie, group dinners, and creating a surrogate family on location.

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Episode Tone & Takeaways

• The episode is playful, candid, and supportive, full of quick-witted humor and honest self-reflection.
• Both Sophia and Jerry display vulnerability as they share lessons learned, anxieties navigated, and the gratitude they feel for their winding, unpredictable paths.
• It’s an uplifting, insightful conversation for anyone curious about the realities of long-term creative careers, the evolving nature of relationships on and off set, and the work of showing up for yourself and others—a true reflection of the podcast’s “masterpiece and work in progress” ethos.

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End of Part 1. To be continued in the next episode…

Transcript

[Sophia Bush]

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[Sophia Bush]

Welcome to Work in Progress. Welcome back to Work in Progress this week, friends, you all have been so sweet on the announcement of the latest film that I'm making, Summer's Last Resort. I am here in South Africa shooting this movie, having the time of my life with my castmates, and I decided to bug my sweet friend and my work partner, Jerry o', Connell, to sit down with me this week to talk about his legendary career. Ever since he was a kid, Jerry's been described as a person who has a spark that makes him impossible to ignore. He's got an energy that pulls the world in. Jerry o' Connell was one of those kids and he is absolutely one of those adults. From very early commercials to his breakout role at 11 in Stand By Me, he learned what it meant to be seen and to collaborate and to navigate the world can often be as unpredictable as it is thrilling. He was mentored by the legendary Rob Reiner, and that guidance left an imprint that shapes the way he approaches acting, friendship and life itself. And like all of us, he struggled with insecurity and anxiety about the future and what his role is in it. And at the same time, his life has evolved in all these big, beautiful ways as a father, a husband, a talk show host, an actor. He has such a beautiful heart and such tremendous humor. He's wonderfully relatable and someone one that I know in our movie and every other, you just can't help but root for. Let's do a little on set, Hang with the lovely Jerry o'. Connell. Obviously, I've done plenty of in person podcasts before, but my guest and I today are laughing because we are currently filming nights in South Africa. We're on the Western Cape, and it's pure shenanigans in the best way. And there was a debate as to whether we should sit in separate hotel rooms to do this interview and, like, do it on our zooms, which felt so silly.

[Jerry O'Connell]

No, the only real debate was I said we should do this on the beach because the beach is right outside our. Our door. And you said for sound quality, we should do it. That would really be problematic in your hotel suite. I do want to say Sophia's suite is significantly larger than my hotel room. Significantly larger.

[Sophia Bush]

Also, I do feel that there are clarifications that are very necessary, you know, not for us, but for some not so great people who used to be part of our business. We're not in, like, a hotel room. We're in the. We're in the living room. A large living room in a suite. The quote hotel room someone might be thinking of is, like, way down the hall. We're not there, right?

[Jerry O'Connell]

No, my. My hotel room is. You walk in. The bed is right there.

[Sophia Bush]

Oh.

[Jerry O'Connell]

There is a small desk which I write letters on. I'm kidding.

[Sophia Bush]

Paper letters.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I've never written a paper. I don't think I've written a paper letter in decades.

[Sophia Bush]

I'm just kidding.

[Jerry O'Connell]

They always leave stationary there, though. It's so weird.

[Sophia Bush]

I know. They always give you hotel stationery. And I'm always thinking to myself, this is very sweet, but who uses this?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, I don't know, because people I.

[Sophia Bush]

Know who use stationery. I am that person occasionally.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Wow.

[Sophia Bush]

Have either a. An icon that they like on their stationery, like a dog or a bee or something personal to them, or people that really have their act together have their own stationary that they get, you know, with, like, from the desk of. Or it has their name or whatever. I don't know anybody who's ever used the stationery from a hotel.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, I don't think I've used a pen in 15 years. No, I'm kidding, actually.

[Sophia Bush]

How is that possible? You have teenagers. Don't you have to help them with their homework?

[Jerry O'Connell]

We're gonna go off on a tangent here. I do write. I have little. Like, I have a note, like a stack of pieces of paper that I Have. And we leave notes for each other in our house.

[Sophia Bush]

I actually have you and the girls. You and Rebecca are all four of you.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Just so everybody knows. Just so I don't assume everybody knows everything about me. I am married to an actress supermodel named Rebecca romaine. We have two children who are 17 year old girls.

[Sophia Bush]

So cool.

[Jerry O'Connell]

It's, it's really funny. I, I, I like listened to a bunch of your episodes yesterday and of this. Yeah.

[Sophia Bush]

Which one did you like the best that you heard?

[Jerry O'Connell]

I just listened to Jeannie Mai. That was, I know her personally. I thought it was very insightful.

[Sophia Bush]

Isn't Genie so amazing?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah. And I didn't, I'll be honest, I didn't know how much, like how much she goes through, you know?

[Sophia Bush]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

But I thought it would be fun to have some insight of that also. I thought it would be fun for your listeners to know what it is like to work with Sophia. Oh, what it is like to meet Sophia. You and I, I mean, we both started young.

[Sophia Bush]

You were, you were really a kid, though.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I was a kid. You started more when you were 19.

[Sophia Bush]

Yeah. Well, so I was doing theater at my high school initially for an elective that I was really pissed about. And then I want to give your.

[Jerry O'Connell]

High school a shout out.

[Sophia Bush]

Yeah. Westridge School for Girls, Pasadena, California. Really fantastic academy. I loved it. But I was so irritated that I had to do this play. And then I realized I think I love this more than anything. And so I started really pursuing theater as an extracurricular in school. And then when I went to college, started auditioning, looking for, you know, my first professional gig. And then like we did the thing, we all did and just drove all over LA to 1 million casting offices, reading hundreds of pages of sides, you know, every month and just trying to figure it out.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Sophia, let's start from the beginning. All girls school.

[Sophia Bush]

Hold on, hold on. No, you tangented me. I answered your question. You were talking about your family and your daughters.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, no, but I mean, I'm going to talk about them as like, as we like, go on, as we like, weave it in.

[Sophia Bush]

Well, hold on, hold on, because this is actually a very good question and this is usually how I start my interviews. Clearly my audience has figured out that, yes, I am interviewing the legend that is Jerry o', Connell. But also it's like herding cats, like two, two artists with another group of artists. By the way, I sort of wish the whole cast was on this interview who are like making a comedy which requires you to be a little Unhinged at all times. So you can improv on set. It's hard for us to stay on track.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[Sophia Bush]

So I'm going to ask you my question that I normally start with. Okay. Because it does relate and I actually think this is an even better question to ask parents.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Let's go.

[Sophia Bush]

You know people who know, you know your career. We have had the opportunity to know you since you were really young because you were, you were 11 when you made Standby.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I was in Stand by me, I was 11.

[Sophia Bush]

Yeah. But so, so often people know an adult person's work. They don't really know your whole life and they certainly don't know where you came from. So I want you to take us back. Let's go. Early 80s. Paint a picture of what it was like. And the question, the deep question I like is if you could, you know, be in your own sci fi movie and walk onto a playground today and see your 8 year old self.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[Sophia Bush]

Would you, would you see the man you are today in him? Do you think you have things in common? Like would you see your sense of humor or precociousness? What was it?

[Jerry O'Connell]

No, no, I wouldn't, I wouldn't recognize. It's really funny. When I, when I did Stand By Me, I was always getting in trouble for. They called me hyperactive. I don't think that's a term that they use anymore. Teachers, principals, teachers. I remember my dad on his bookshelf had a book when I was a kid. It said, why is your child hyperactive? And my mother would always say, like, when I'd get in trouble and she'd come to pick me up, she'd always go, why don't you just, why don't you just shut up and sit on your hands? No, just when you get that thought of blurting something, blurting that I was a blurter.

[Sophia Bush]

A blurter.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay, I was a blurter. When you get that thought, just shut up and sit on your hands. And my mantra through my life was.

[Sophia Bush]

Shut up and sit on your hands.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Shut up and sit on your hands. So literally I would be with you. So like I would be sitting here with you, Sophia. And I'd want to say like, yeah, I wasn't like killing cats. And before I would say that, I go, no, don't say that, man. Just shut up and sit on your hands. Shut up and sit on your hands. So but like saying I wasn't killing cats is kind of funny. It is.

[Sophia Bush]

It's actually quite funny, actually.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Looking back, I'm, I'm Glad I said it.

[Sophia Bush]

It also makes me wonder, like, do I not know that you went to school with someone who wound up being a serial killer? Like, is that where the reference comes from? Or do you just watch a lot of true crime?

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[Jerry O'Connell]

Serial killers. Do I have any friends that have murdered anyone? No. I do watch. I love, love a good Dateline.

[Sophia Bush]

Yeah, me too.

[Jerry O'Connell]

With my spouse. We watch them together. Yeah, it's always by the way. I mean, I think it's part of the I heart world. Man, those Dateline podcasts are. And by the way, the thing that's so good about them, too, and it's why it's so fun to watch my wife, is that it's always, like, spouse stuff. It's always, yeah. Spouse wanting to kill a spouse having an affair. Spouse killing a spouse to be with the like. And it's always the spouse.

[Sophia Bush]

Does it ever make you, like, when the episode is over, look at each other and go, but, but not us, Right?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, I think my wife was capable. I'm not, I'm not even joking.

[Sophia Bush]

20 years you've been married.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, my wife and I have been together over 20 years. We got married in 07. So that's coming up on 19 years. Wow. It's crazy. And it's funny, too. I mean, so cool. You're really, I want to say, Sophia is really seeing my marriage at work because I'm going to tell you, as someone who's been married close to 20 years, I'm sort of an expert now.

[Sophia Bush]

You've, you've well over, you're well over 10,000 hours.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And you have watched it. Marriages, you see how marriages work when a spouse is away for a month at a time on a different continent. And, you know, you are also in a relationship. And you really see what relationships are when a spouse is away from their spouse.

[Sophia Bush]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And it's, I, I can see that you are in very much a loving relationship. And actually, I, I, I, I, too, am in a loving relationship. You just can't see it. I know I'm in a loving relationship. No, hold on a second. I know I'm in a loving relationship because we're, this is, we're doing this from a continent away from North America where we normally live. We're in Africa shooting a movie called Summer's Last Resort. Gonna be on Tubi. Let's give them a plug. But I talk to my wife now every day. I call her every day. And now that I've been away from my wife for a little over three weeks now, I can hear how happy my wife is that I. I'm not joking, Sophia. You know, this is true. And that is, I think, the sign of a real. I'm not kidding. There is like an ease that comes with that. Like, I think when I was younger, if I was away, I was concerned about my wife. Or you get, like, concerned about cheating or like, jealousy or like, I'm not around my partner, you know, but there is something fun and easy about. I can go away for a month. I have to earn a living, you know, and, you know, do I wish I was shooting this, like, in my hometown? Yes, but this is where our business is. It's overseas. My wife did that X Men movie in London for a month, you know.

[Sophia Bush]

And she just wrapped her show in Canada.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I mean, my wife did a show in Canada.

[Sophia Bush]

This is what our life is. It's pretty crazy.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah. I mean, it is a little nicer if you're Sophia and you get the larger suite where you can shoot podcasts in. We should actually have done this in my shitty room. We should.

[Sophia Bush]

Sitting in the corner. Sitting on the floor.

[Jerry O'Connell]

No, on my desk where I write letters.

[Sophia Bush]

Right. Oh, on the hotel stationery, of course. And now a word from our wonderful sponsors.

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[Sophia Bush]

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[Sophia Bush]

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[Jerry O'Connell]

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[Sophia Bush]

Okay. You tell such funny stories about your family, and not just you and your wife and your beautiful kids, but also your parents. You grew up in Greenwich Village, grew.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Up in New York City.

[Sophia Bush]

It's funny because, like, the way you talk about your. Your mom and dad, it, like, it reminds me, you know, that heavy New York thing. It's like all my grandparents, aunts, and uncles. But how did the acting stuff start for you so young? I feel like that was more common on the west coast because of commercials and. And the shows that used to shoot on all the soundstages. Like the Nickelodeon stuff.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Sure.

[Sophia Bush]

So were your parents creatively inclined? Did you say, hey, mom and Dad, I want to do this? And they encouraged it. Like, we got to get a little bit back on our timeline. How did that happen?

[Jerry O'Connell]

So I grew up in Greenwich Village. I'm so happy that I grew up in Greenwich Village. It was a very diverse, very open, very. How do I word this?

[Xolair Advertisement Voice]

Very, very.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Just liberal place. And I don't mean, like, even, like liberal, like, politically. The build. I grew up in a building, which is interesting, because a building is like a neighborhood. You know, there's hundreds of people who live in your building, and that's, like, your world, especially if you're a kid.

[Sophia Bush]

I love that.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And because it was Greenwich Village and It was the 80s, a lot of homosexuals lived. I grew up raised by homosexuals, basically. So I grew up in a very open world.

[Sophia Bush]

Yeah, me too.

[Jerry O'Connell]

That said, I'm now raising my children in a very fancy suburb of Los Angeles called Calabasas. And I love Calabasas. Calabasas is the best. We have a mall out there called the Commons, which is beautiful. There's a Lululemon. Oh, there's a Barnes and Noble. Okay, don't get me started on the Marmalade, which is a chain of restaurants. I love it. But it is not nearly as, like, open and, like. Yeah, it's not nearly as open as where I grew up. And I do think I. I, like, I. I need to, like. I think especially at a young age, just because it's how I grew up. So I don't know if everybody thinks how they grew up is, like, the best way, but you're immediately tolerant of everything when you grow up in a world like I grew up in. And I'm so grateful to my parents that they. They were, like, kind of like artists in the 80s. You know, like, they partied. Mom and dad both went to art school. My dad worked in advertising. My mom was an art teacher. Public school. Very loose people, you know?

[Sophia Bush]

Yeah. It's so cool.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And it was just a really fun, fun way to grow up. When I get remarried and I'm raising a new, like, batch of children, I'm gonna do it in a place like Greenwich Village. I'm not gonna go to the fancy.

[Sophia Bush]

Suburb, to the burbs. No.

[Jerry O'Connell]

But I wanna get back to the acting thing. My parents put me in an acting class when I was a kid. Yeah. Because I wasn't shutting up and I wasn't sitting on my hands. So one day a week, I went to a place called HB Studios in sort of Greenwich Village, and I took a class, which was an improv teen acting class on Sundays. And we. A lot of times the teacher would say, like, she would set a scenario. You're driving on a windy road. Go. And there would be, like, a group of you on stage, and you would just improv, you know?

[Sophia Bush]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And I remember one day, there was a group of us lined up. The teacher goes, you're on the ledge of a building. Go. And I came up with this whole bit of don't. Don't kick the pigeons. Don't kick. I was with a group of kids and I was like. And they were older. I was like 10. They were like 16, 17. They would smoke cigarettes afterwards. It was crazy. They were. I thought they were so old. I made this whole thing about don't kick the pigeons. And it was killing. It was getting a lot of laugh. Like, stay away from the pigeons. Like, let the pigeons be free. And I was like, oh, that's such a cute pigeon. Look. And I made a hole. And I just had a runner on pigeons. And I took over the scene. And afterwards, one of the older kids, like, was smoking a cigarette outside. He had a leather jacket on, and he said, hey, man, you were really funny in that scene. That was really funny.

[Sophia Bush]

Wow. And I remember thinking you were hooked.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I know. I remember thinking, like, finally I'm good at something. Like, now, finally. Now we're talking. And it just. I just have been chasing that older kid, smoking a cigarette, saying, you're really funny in that scene ever since. I mean, listen, Sophia, every time we do a scene, I'm trying to get a laugh or get something out of you. I'm trying to. Oh, let me talk about working with Sophia, everybody. Everyone's gonna want this insight. First of all, I don't judge people physically. Everyone knows that about me. What is staggering on meeting you in person, Sophia, is how. How Physically beautiful. You are. It is pretty. It is real. A lot of times you meet Hollywood types and you meet them in person without makeup in Africa, and you're like, oh, that is not. That is not what I saw on Instagram. That is not the case with you, Sophia.

[Sophia Bush]

Very gorgeous.

[Jerry O'Connell]

But also, you're really. And I don't know if this comes from your time at One Tree Hill, and I don't know if this is because we're working with younger actors. There's, like, kids in this movie. You're very maternal on set.

[Sophia Bush]

Thanks.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You're very. You make sure people are being taken care of.

[Sophia Bush]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And you make sure things are. Things are comfortable for not only yourself, but for your cast around you.

[Sophia Bush]

Thank you.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Where does that. Because I'm not like that at all. I'm like every man for himself. I'm not joking. Hey, guys. I come to a set, I do my thing, and I don't. It's not that I don't care about other people. It's that I just make it. It's none of my business. That's how I am. Okay. What made you that maternal?

[Sophia Bush]

It's interesting, you know, I'm sure you've had experiences like this. I think as we grow up throughout our lives, you know, you. You realize you think you know the answer to something about yourself, or you think you know the story, and then you talk to your parents or you hear something that gives you kind of an aha moment. Like, somebody asked me where my activism started, and I had this, you know, sixth grade story. And then what happened when I started working on tv and then I realized, oh, it was so long before that, actually in second grade, like, whoa. Kind of blew my mind. That's a story for another day. But I. I had been told my entire life that at whatever stage I was at, I was always taking care of the younger kids in the room. So if I was five, I was taking care of the two year olds, and if I was nine, I was watching the five year olds. And, you know, the summer camp that I went to as a kid, I became a counselor in training the first year I was allowed to, you know, and for the next few years, was responsible for other people's children. But my parents really always took care of their people. And when I got on set, I saw a lot of the opposite from people in power. You know, we did not have a good creator. We had some people who really did not care about other people's experience, who were in various positions of power there. And then there were really wonderful people who did. You know, my supervising on set producer is a gentleman named Greg Prainge who taught me so much of what I know. And I think for me, when I. When I then ventured, you know, I did that show, I did this great comedy called Partners. We were the first gay kiss on cbs, and then we got canceled. That was unfortunate. Then I went and did Chicago pd and when I left, that show was really when I leaned into not just the acting, but the producing and B, because it allows me to help set a tone on a set and make sure I can have everyone's back, not just as a co worker who will advocate for them, but as someone in a literal position of power in the eyes of the people who employ us.

[Xolair Advertisement Voice]

Right.

[Sophia Bush]

I don't know. It's. It's just my nature, and I have figured out how, or I'm still figuring out, I guess, how in my career to have that nature come with some gravitas so that it gets listened to so that I can protect my people.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Well, this is hard for me to admit, but when I walk on a set with Sophia, I'm the second most famous person on set. It's okay. It happens. It occasionally happens. I'm married to a very famous person as well. I understand how this goes, but since I've been here with you, we've been spending a lot of time with each other. I'm gonna go as far as to say you're my work wife. We have to eat dinner together. We have to do some.

[Sophia Bush]

We have to manage the children together.

[Jerry O'Connell]

We have to manage the children together. And that has been a lot of fun. I want to tell your listeners I've been using every opportunity I have with you to ask as much about One Tree Hill and what happened behind the.

[Sophia Bush]

Scenes as I know you really are so fascinated by it.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I am fascinated. Did this maternal instinct of yours on sets, which I have witnessed start on One Tree Hill, or did it start when you had more experiences?

[Sophia Bush]

It. It's always been my nature. I think I had to learn. I had to learn where it was additive and sometimes where it wasn't. Like, I will never forget this, like, still haunts me. We had a background player on that show who was clearly going through something, and our ad department was talking about her in a way. And, I mean, this went on for weeks. And I'm listening to these guys, and there. There were guys in that department who just, like, were notoriously unkind. That department hazed every new person who came into it. I mean, they wouldn't allow, like, the newest PA to sit down. They made them carry weights around to, like, exhaust the. Their bodies. It was not great. And I just listened to the way they talked about this girl. It was driving me crazy. And they weren't talking to her. And I'm like, you have criticisms about the way she's behaving at work. Like, somebody talk to her. You got to tell her, or how is she gonna know? And, you know, everybody said, you know, above my pay grade. Always the excuse, right? That's somebody else's job. And so one day I was like, oh, this. You know, I'm gonna go talk to her and be like, hey, I need you to know, like, what's going on, what's being said. If this shit's true, it's not cool, and it's. It's gonna affect your reputation. That did not go well. And I went to speak to my supervising producer, who really was my, like, a mentor to me there. And he was like, kid, there are things you just can't say because you're one of the actors. If an AD gives that feedback, it's professional feedback. If you give that feedback, it's immediately looked at as something else because you're one of the actors. Everybody thinks you're different, even though you're not. And it was a really illuminating experience for me because I've seen it in action. You know, I've been on sets. I'll never forget, like, being on a next set where there was a lot of yelling. And on the first day that two women in the AD department were running the set. First time ever, they were given the set to run. Some background. Actors were not respecting the rules, and they'd gone to say it over and over and over again. And I finally went over and was like, guys, please don't. Don't dismiss these women. Don't be disrespectful. We're all watching it happen. You can't not take them seriously. This is their job. This is their workplace. You are guests in this workplace. Workplace. They run the set. We don't even run the set. The actors. They do.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[Sophia Bush]

And then it was like, so rude, men. And I was like, y' all have been told not to do something five times, and you're literally doing it in the faces of. Of your bosses. Like, it's not cool.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[Sophia Bush]

And I'm not trying to be rude. I'm trying to say, stop being an. Yeah, but people don't like it from people like us. And there's. There's Things I've had to figure out. So sometimes I have to say, like, shut up and sit on your hands. You can't. You can't. You gotta go. You gotta go talk to an ad. You gotta go talk to somebody else and let them go do it. Because if they go do it, they're. They're very firm and professional. But if I do it, I'm a. I have.

[Jerry O'Connell]

While working with Sophia, I have seen. I have seen you. I've seen you in a boss mode. And by the way, Sophia, I really like it.

[Sophia Bush]

What did I do? When am I a boss?

[Jerry O'Connell]

You're a boss. You're a boss. When people from certain departments. Be really careful how I say this. So, so it doesn't get cut. People from. Because, by the way, a lot of my interview has been cut. I just want you to know people from certain departments who are supposed to help the actors are maybe not helping. And again, I, in my. Sort of, like, it's none of my business. I'm just gonna be quiet about it. Sophia actually says something about it in a really good manner. You really, you're stern, but you're not rude. I haven't heard you raise your voice.

[Sophia Bush]

I don't do that. If I raise my Voice, we are 10 clicks past a problem. It takes me so long to get irate. So if we've gotten there, like, it's been going on for so long already.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I kind of want to hear Sophia scream at some point.

[Xolair Advertisement Voice]

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[Jerry O'Connell]

You know what?

[Sophia Bush]

My whole thing is, is like, look, we just, we all gotta show up. And I never want anybody to feel bad, but if something's not happening, especially we have kids on set, you know, 100. And if they're not getting what they need, it's like, hey, guys, I just need somebody to come over and help with this, please. Thank you.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I've seen you do it.

[Sophia Bush]

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[Sophia Bush]

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[Sophia Bush]

This is US Olympic gold medalist Tara Davis Woodhull. And I'm US Paralympic gold medalist Hunter Woodhull. As athletes, our lives are about having a clear path and a team that you can absolutely trust. So when it came to getting the best mortgage, we chose PennyMac. PennyMac is proud to be the official mortgage provider of Team USA and you.

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[Sophia Bush]

I love that my podcast has turned into an interview.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Well, no, no, no. Well, Sophia.

[Sophia Bush]

No, no, it's okay.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You are. And I'm working with Sophia. Guys, Sophia may be one of the most intriguing persons I've ever worked with. I mean that. I mean it, Sophia.

[Sophia Bush]

I mean, it's so funny to me.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I mean it. So this is my chance to ask. And by the way, people are going to be interested in this. Okay? I listen to 18 hours of your show. Yesterday, you talked to other people. Let's talk about you for one second. When was the last time you yelled at work?

[Sophia Bush]

When was the last time I yelled at work? Oh, it was funny. I remember. This is many years ago.

[Xolair Advertisement Voice]

Okay.

[Sophia Bush]

And I love him. I mean, I'm telling you, I would, like. I would get into a physical altercation.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I'm sure I'm working with you.

[Sophia Bush]

Jason Isaacs. I love that man. I love him. He played my dad on my. On my show. Good Sam. He is such a stunningly beautiful actor.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[Sophia Bush]

I mean, that man. What a gift working with him was. What a gift that show was. It gave me Sky Marshall, who's one of my best friends in the world now. Like, I have nothing but good things to say about it. And Jason is. He's such a gorgeous artist, and when something doesn't feel right to him, he can't. He can't. It's like a. You know, it's like a bug in his ear. He can't quite let it go. And we had a. We had a bear of a day. Like a bear of a day in a bear of an episode. And our showrunner, our head writer, had been like, I'm gonna say this to all of you now. If you need anything on this episode, if you have thoughts, if you have feedback, if you want to change something, come to me before we are not due. I don't have time for onset changes on the day in this episode.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Like, let's just set the scene. You get a script.

[Sophia Bush]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

A lot of times when you get a script and I'm a fan of this, you say, this isn't working for some reason. I need to change something a little bit. Yeah, I think you should be able to change it. I think actors should be able to change it just because they're in a situation that a writer who wrote this months ago was not in. Yes, but a lot of times in television, the writer is the boss. And the writer says, I wrote it. You say it. That's it.

[Sophia Bush]

And that is not our showrunner. I've worked with that showrunner who says, I wrote it. You're going to say it. I've had that. And you go, okay, but what about the fact that this is literally the opposite of the thing you had me say in last week's episode? And then they're like, don't care.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I agree with you.

[Sophia Bush]

That was. That is not Katie. That is not the Jenny Erman camp. They're fabulous co conspirators on set, but this was a particularly large, expensive, almost impossible to shoot episode. And I. The amount of medical jargon, like words like pericardial sentesis needle are burned into my brain. They'll never.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Cardial sentesis needle, pericardial sentences.

[Sophia Bush]

You just can't. You can't. It's crazy. And something was really driving Jason crazy. And they'd been like, no, no, not today, we can't. And we're like racing against the clock and we're sitting in our like little zone as actors and they're moving a light and we've got five minutes and I'm running medical jargon just because I've got to get it perfect and I have to. I have to be performing a thing. And like, it's one handed surgical nuts and it's a whole. It's so hard. And on that show, I was literally giving up my lunches to do, to do medical rehearsals and doing fittings on lunches and doing table reads on lunches because we just didn't do that. And he comes, you know, we're sitting and he goes, okay, I just think if we change. And I just went, I can't do this with you today. I love you so much. Stop talking to me. And he was like, so, like, what? And I was like, I can't today. I can't. My brain. I can't. I can't. I can't have a conversation about what needs to change. I'm barely on top of it. And he was just like, okay, sorry. And I was like, thank you. But I was, like, yelling compliments because I just was like, if you. If you fuck up the flow of my brain.

[Xolair Advertisement Voice]

Right.

[Sophia Bush]

I will. Today is the day on this set that I will expire. And he looked so shocked, and sky had this wide eye and just was trying not to giggle. And I was like, I love everybody. I gotta go rehearse. And I had to just, like, go and do the lines and the motions together because it was so hard. And he's such a sweet angel. At the end of the day, he was like, I really didn't mean to throw you off earlier. I said, I know. I just. I was this close to being thrown. Sorry. And he was like, love you. I was like, love you. And that was it. And it was so sweet. And it's like. It's not lost on me how lucky I am to work with people who, like, even the most stressful moment is actually so loving and cute. It was great.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I want you to yell at me on. On this. I just want one. I want one.

[Sophia Bush]

Here's the thing. I will say this. I have. And you say this to me. You know, people will say, like, I don't know. My life is my life. I don't think it's, like, that interesting. And then people will go, that's some pretty crazy. And everything feels pretty even for me now. And I think I've done a lot of work to get there. You know, when you do the work to unpack shit and heal and take accountability and also finally stop excusing terrible things that have happened to you and everything in between. Like, I don't really flip out. Like. Like when the haircut thing happened.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay. Are we allowed to talk about this?

[Sophia Bush]

Yeah.

[Xolair Advertisement Voice]

Tell him.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Is this gonna get cut?

[Sophia Bush]

It's not gonna get cut because this is. This is funny.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Spoiler alert. Sophia is wearing a hairpiece in this film.

[Sophia Bush]

It's a. It's called a partial wig.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, it's because.

[Sophia Bush]

And, you know, this is. There's a few things we should tell our friends at home. There's, like, an adage in our business where they say, oh, you want a job? Plan a vacation, because the minute you're leaving town, someone's going to hire you to work on a movie or a TV show. There. There's things. And it's like, I did a movie right before this one. The. The movie I did with the wonderful Lauren Holly up in Canada, right? And give it a plug.

[Jerry O'Connell]

When is Roku?

[Sophia Bush]

It's coming out on Roku this summer. It's.

[Jerry O'Connell]

May we have a title?

[Sophia Bush]

Yeah, it's called Broad Trip. It's so funny. And in Broad Trip, Lauren plays more of the version of the mom I'm playing in our movie, and I play more of the summer. I'm like, a little type A uptight, and I. I have, for the last few years, had very long hair. And for this movie in which I was meant to play this uptight HR Lady, I cut a very blunt long bob.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Cool.

[Sophia Bush]

And when we were prepping this movie, they were, like, sending me all the, you know, wardrobe references and then the hair and makeup references, and as me with my very long hair, and I went, oh, oopsie. And they said, it's fine. We're going to do, like, a partial wig for you. So it's all the front of my hair, and it goes back. Back in layers, and then the back is this wig, and it comes here. I guess it's called, like, 3 4, because it comes. What. What's this 2 inches back on my.

[Jerry O'Connell]

So you use your bangs in the front.

[Sophia Bush]

So you don't use all the front of your hair, and then they use all this long hair. Because the problem is they could put extensions in my hair if it wasn't such a blunt bob, but they wouldn't blend. So it has to be a wig that fades properly. Okay, That's.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Would they put extensions in there daily? Would they have put something a little more permanent in there?

[Sophia Bush]

I don't know. I didn't ask. I just knew that they were like, oh, we can't do extensions in a blunt bob.

[Jerry O'Connell]

So you may have to show this on camera.

[Sophia Bush]

We'll cut the video that I sent to my loving partner and four of.

[Jerry O'Connell]

My friends, Sophia, who. I'm telling you, I know Sophia doesn't yell, and Sophia's really patient, because this. This. If this happened to me, there would be some serious lawsuits. Like, honestly, like, Alan Jackson would, like, be on my legal team right now. I am not joking. I would have Gloria Allred here, like, literally doing a press conference. They put the piece on to Sophia. Okay? They said, we're just gonna cut the piece up here, the front. And it was. It is perfectly matched, like, hair color. And Sophia said, don't. Don't cut my hair.

[Sophia Bush]

I said, hey, hey, can we. If we need to cut it. Let's take it off me.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Sophia showed me a video, and here.

[Xolair Advertisement Voice]

Here it is.

[Sophia Bush]

Yeah, it's like a. It's like a pinky finger amount right in the center of my part where I part my hair every day. It's an alfalfa sprout. What would you say? It's like an inch and a quarter long. And I did measure, with a tape measure my hair, even in the shape, the shortest it's been in many years, and it is, from that part of my head, 14 inches long. So it's going to take me about five years. Five years to grow all this hair that was cut off back.

[Jerry O'Connell]

That's crazy. Yeah. And you didn't scream there, so. No, I mean.

[Sophia Bush]

Well, when I went into work the next day, I don't think you told them.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I think you kept it to yourself.

[Sophia Bush]

I did. It was like, it's not really worth it. And then the. The day after that, when we had to do a proper hair wash and they had to blow it out and it all went like a. Like a little velociraptor, like, you know, what is that the neck stuff?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[Sophia Bush]

And they went, oh, my God. And they were all freaking out. I said, listen, it's done. There's no reason to be upset about it. There's nothing we can do about it. But I am just gonna say, should we ever have to cut any portion of the wig again, we will be taking it off of my hair. And then you and another co worker of ours, who I won't name, were like, the fat. You are not nearly as. As upset about this as you should be. And I was like. I said, it's done. Like, what's the point? And truly, this is how I know my listeners hear me talk about him a lot. This is how I know my therapist is as important to me as I say he is. I just. I don't flip out. I just don't care.

[Jerry O'Connell]

All right.

[Sophia Bush]

But my sprout is sad.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I want to ask about your sprout. When you wake up in the morning and you look at yourself in the mirror, as we all do, we go to brush our teeth. We go to, like, that's, like, the.

[Sophia Bush]

First place I go when I wake up and I look in the mirror and I see sprout, I feel like it's like I'm a puppy now. And I just. I do have a moment every day where I go, right. Because I'm. I'm not great at doing my own hair. I'm fine at It. Some people are, like, amazing at it.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You did your hair here, right? This is your hair that we're looking at.

[Sophia Bush]

It slicked into a ponytail.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Looks good.

[Sophia Bush]

Thank you. Yeah, it's. It's. Sprout is an unfortunate incident, but not worth a flip out.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Do you have to pay more attention to Sprout when you do your hair now? I mean, it goes down. Like, Sprout has to go down. You have to put a little gel on it. What. What. What product are we using on the inch and a quarter of hair you have on the highest point of your head? How much? Like, is it an additional 30 seconds a day? Is it additional two minutes?

[Sophia Bush]

I don't totally know. I'm really not spending any time on it because they put this piece on me when I go to work now, so I'm. When. When this movie is over, I'm going to have to probably learn some tricks for today.

[Jerry O'Connell]

For work in progress. How much time do we spend on Sprout?

[Sophia Bush]

Not much, because I still have hair product in from yesterday.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Okay.

[Sophia Bush]

We put, like, a. Like a mask in my hair yesterday when I left work because it's getting.

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[Sophia Bush]

Front's getting pretty fried.

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[Sophia Bush]

So it's. It's hair masked down.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Can I make a suggestion?

[Sophia Bush]

Sure.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I mean, this is turning into a hair care show. My wife wears a wig on her.

[Sophia Bush]

Television show to protect her hair.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Correct. And it is actually. I notice a lot in the entertainment industry, men and women are wearing way more wigs these days. I don't know if the technology has gotten better.

[Sophia Bush]

Yeah, I think it has. I mean, I'm enjoying the experience on this, truly.

[Jerry O'Connell]

It's cool if you see male actors like Timothee Chalamet or, oh, God, Channing Tatum.

[Sophia Bush]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

They have very short hair. It's because they're wearing wigs on different projects.

[Sophia Bush]

Oh, so they can have any kind of hair.

[Jerry O'Connell]

They can have any kind of hair that they want. So that's why you see a lot of actors with, like, shaved heads. Brad Pitt as well. They can have any kind of hair that they want. And also, if it requires time lapses, they don't have to shoot in order. They can have long hair in one scene, short hair in another scene.

[Sophia Bush]

That's really smart. You cut your hair for this movie?

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, I had long hair, and now it's short. But I was gonna make a joke about Sprout, but I like that we've.

[Sophia Bush]

Named that part out. Can I actually say, but I wanted.

[Jerry O'Connell]

To get my wife when she wears her wig in her show conditions her hair underneath it all day long. So she goes to work like 12 hours and her hair right now has never been. It's as healthy as I've ever seen it.

[Sophia Bush]

It's so smart. And now for our sponsors.

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[Sophia Bush]

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[Sophia Bush]

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[Jerry O'Connell]

Something I've noticed about you being your work husband and us spending so much time together is how much of your adult life has been on the road.

[Sophia Bush]

Almost all of it.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And it's something that really hit me. We were having lunch one day with one of our co stars and you were telling a story about oth, I'm getting it all guys. And I said to you point blank, I said, wow, you've really, you really haven't been home?

[Sophia Bush]

No, not since college.

[Jerry O'Connell]

That's crazy to me, Sophia. I, I don't know how you do that, to be honest. I mean, I understand it's a part of your job and you're now doing it, but you like, you probably haven't experienced it so you don't know any difference.

[Sophia Bush]

Yeah, but.

[Jerry O'Connell]

How do you think that affects you? You know.

[Sophia Bush]

Oh my God. In really crazy ways for sure. I mean, you know, it was something the girls and I really got to process on our other podcast and Hillary was joking about it and was like, I mean, why do you think, like in North Carolina for 10 years, like cast crew, new crew, new cast. Like, you know, we were like saved by the bell. Like everybody dated everybody, crew members were engaged to cast members and every other combination. Like because you, that's your full time life, but it's also weirdly not totally real like it is, but all your people are somewhere else and then the people you work with become your people, but also you're just with the people you're with in an assignment. Essentially not like a full experiential choice. Like it, it was sort of this aha moment, I think, for all of us to go, oh yeah, wow, that's wild. And then you can try to build a life at home, but you're never really there. And that presents its own set of challenges. You know, my, my co worker Joy wrote a really beautiful book about her experience. Like she was trying to build a life back home. And that wound up being full of a lot of toxicity and betrayal for her because it also wasn't real. She wasn't there. There were things happening without her knowledge. Like, it's a really weird, it's sort of like living in the Twilight Zone all the time. And I think I was so used to it that I didn't realize how weird it was. I did it for 10 straight years and then, you know, I was working in LA on a season of a show and then I went to Chicago for five years. And you do your best and you do have these beautiful experiences with people, but it is kind of like being in the Twilight Zone. And I think the things that I've learned and that I cherish the most on the other side of 15 years of it and then a year in Toronto and it's always somewhere else. Is the, the real lasting friendships with women that I've made? The friendships that I made in North Carolina, you know, my friendship with Marina from Chicago, my friendship with sky from Toronto, like those are the things that, that have proven to be like the real of the real and everything else is beautiful. And the crew folks I stay in touch with and you know, my camera guys who, you know, I'm, I'm in contact with a lot, like all of that stuff is really meaningful. Getting to know people's families, like, it's precious to me to know about your life and your marriage and how you guys have made it work and what your daughters are up to. It kills me that, you know when you met the kids at home with Ash on FaceTime, and I was like, you know, telling them about all the characters and who everybody plays. And, you know, Violet's like the Sloane. She's the big sister. And. And Davion's like the ocean. He's the little brother. And Jerry plays Mr. Winters. And now, like, they call you Mr. Jerry on FaceTime. It kills me. Hi, Mr. Jerry. I'm like, what is this? It's so cute. And it's like, those things are so, so, so meaningful to me. But, yeah, I. I think I definitely had to learn that you can love your people at work, you can love your experience, but still is not quite your real life. And that took me a while. I just didn't. I didn't really know that. And part of me really appreciates that, like, very sweet naivete. And then part of me is like, oh, baby, I wish, like, anyone had given you better advice when you were younger. But here we are, and it's all good. I mean, I think about it for you, and, you know, we talked about this at the top of the hour. To be in a film like, Stand By Me, to be so young. You know, you're 11 years old, and it's you and these guys. It's. It's, you know, River Phoenix. I mean, our. Our tragically passed beautiful friend Rob Reiner directed you in that film. Like, did you know he was, like, a Hollywood legend yet? Was he on his way to becoming that? What was. Was it weird to be a kid on set so young, or was it actually easy because you had no idea what it even meant?

[Jerry O'Connell]

You know what's funny? I. My memories of it are of that, of a kid. Like, we went whitewater rafting. We played softball. We. There was an arcade that we all went to. So I had, like, childlike memories to it.

[Sophia Bush]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

The fact that people still to this day come up and talk to me about it is kind of the surreal part, because it's like. It would be like talking to you about being a cit. It's like, oh, I thought that was my memory. Oh, you know, about when I was a CIT too.

[Sophia Bush]

Oh, I totally get it.

[Jerry O'Connell]

It's like.

[Sophia Bush]

I mean, some of One Tree Hill feels that way for us.

[Jerry O'Connell]

It sure does. It sure does.

[Sophia Bush]

Like, we were.

[Jerry O'Connell]

How old were you when you started?

[Sophia Bush]

I'd been 21 for, like, a week. And by the way, we thought we knew a lot. We thought we were so mature. And we look back, we. We were babies.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Child, like children.

[Sophia Bush]

To be clear, these Debates. I mean, what an insane sentence I'm about to say. It's so disgusting.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Go. Here we go.

[Sophia Bush]

These debates people in our society are having about consent and young. Young women and in some instances, young boys. I'm like, they're babies. I was 21, and I was still a baby. That is so much of what happens to you in your early 20s isn't appropriate for your age. And the idea that, you know, we currently have an administration in power that wants to lower the age of consent to 14.

[Jerry O'Connell]

14.

[Sophia Bush]

Yes. Yes. This is on the books right now, Jerry. They are fighting laws to stop children from getting married in red states right now. Like, at 14. It's. It's so crazy to me, and I don't know. So it's. It's wild for me.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I want them to raise it.

[Sophia Bush]

Yeah, so do I. I think it should be 30. Honestly, it should probably be 25. But, like, seriously, the. The. I think about the experiences and how young we really were at 21, and then to think about you making a film 10 years before that.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[Sophia Bush]

I mean, thank God you did it with those guys, and thank God you did it with Rob Reiner, the nicest man in the world. Like.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, it's. It's just a special experience, you know, I'm sure. I know you did the rewatch of One Tree Hill. Isn't it funny when you see a scene and people think of that scene as your character famously slapping someone or something? But we watch it and we're like, oh, that's the day that we went to the amusement park after work. Or that's the day that we went to some bar and had a fun. Or that's the day it was. Was Hillary's birthday and we all went out.

[Sophia Bush]

Totally.

[Jerry O'Connell]

It's funny you assign different memories.

[Sophia Bush]

Absolutely. I mean, one of, like, the happiest days. I remember when we were shooting all the high school graduation stuff, Season four was the day my grandfather died.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, my gosh, that's emotional.

[Sophia Bush]

And to get that phone call.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[Sophia Bush]

And they literally were like, we'll give you a minute. And a producer had to walk up to me and say, it's been five minutes. We need you back on set.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I'm not laughing. I'm not laughing.

[Sophia Bush]

I know I'm not laughing. It's so dark. And by the way, there were 300 people, 300 extras on set that day. You know, we were getting to the end of the season. There was no, we can push this to next week. It wasn't possible.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I'm not Laughing. That's why they were so upset, is because when you have, like a big crowd scene, it costs a lot because you're paying everyone an hour hourly wage. So it was a bad. It was.

[Sophia Bush]

The timing was horrible. No.

[Jerry O'Connell]

God rest your grandfather's soul.

[Sophia Bush]

You have to laugh or you'll cry.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I'm not laughing. I'm not laughing.

[Sophia Bush]

And literally, I won't forget it. Like, Joy and Hillary picked me up off the ground and we're like, come on, we're gonna do this. And I had to switch it off.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, my gosh.

[Sophia Bush]

And so it's a weird thing.

[Jerry O'Connell]

That's crazy. That's crazy.

[Sophia Bush]

You learn also as an. As actors, you know, you. You can. You learn such empathy. Other people's experiences are your own. And in a really weird way, you completely divest from your own experiences because there. There's no time for them on set.

[Jerry O'Connell]

That's crazy. I will say, working with Sophia, you are completely professional. And I do have to say it's because you come from pretty much the last. The last of a generation where you did a show for a decade and it really taught you a craft. What you have. I watched Sophia on set, everyone. And what Sophia has is a craft. And you don't see it. I don't think I've ever worked with someone who had a decade of experience. Thousands of hours of experience. Thousands of on air experience.

[Sophia Bush]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Hundreds of thousands of off air experience.

[Sophia Bush]

Between that show, my show in Chicago, all the.

[Jerry O'Connell]

A thousand hours.

[Sophia Bush]

I mean, I've made hundreds and hundreds of episodes of television. Many hundreds.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And it is crazy to see it on set. You are. You have a craft. I'm not even gonna say you're. You're a professional, because that's sort of just like. That's jargon. You have a real old school craft. And it's. It's funny. These kids today love everyone, but because a lot of them come from sort of a social media background, they just don't have the craft.

[Sophia Bush]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And it's, It's. It's crazy to see. It's crazy to see. So it is really fun watching you out there.

[Sophia Bush]

We'll be back in just a minute after a few words from our favorite sponsors.

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[Sophia Bush]

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[Sophia Bush]

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[Sophia Bush]

I'm really curious because you also do. I mean, you're such a talented comedian. We're having so much fun on this movie. You guys like, we are absolutely unhinged. It's hilarious. It's sweet, it's charming. You know, it's very like Chevy Chase family vacation, but the summertime version. I am having the time of my life doing this.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Want to know what it's a lot like? It's so funny. I was looking around. It's a lot like an Adam Sandler movie.

[Sophia Bush]

It is.

[Jerry O'Connell]

It really. I was like looking around and said, I was like, this is like an adam Sandler movie.

[Sophia Bush]

100. I love it.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Like, the jokes are the same.

[Sophia Bush]

It's the, it's the 90s 2000s rom com that I've been begging people to start making again. But I'm really curious because, you know, I started as a, as a comedian. I was brought into One Tree Hill to be the comedian, to be the comedic relief and then, you know, wound up having a deeply emotional storyline. I love comedy. And you have such a history of comedy and you're so good at riffing on set and we're similar in a very interesting way where I do this job because I also love to interview people, ask questions, have, have good conversation in a world that, to your point, is very truncated by social media now. And you did this on camera on the talk. For years. You went and hosted a talk show and were people surprised as an actor that you did that.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Well, you know, the thing about the talk, I was a cast member, so I couldn't really like. And, and it's funny because it was a live show and I was a cast member. I did have to, for a lot of it, sit on my hands and shut up. I had to because other people were, other people were there, you know, and they had like, I, I couldn't like, take over things, you know, but I do, I, I love these sort of long form.

[Sophia Bush]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You know, listening to your show, I, I love, I love really getting to know someone, you know, and, and by the way, I'm sure you know this in what time we've spent together. I'm very interested in other people. Like Sophia. I'm really like, it's so funny. The more time I spend with you, the more interesting you become. You're really an interesting person. You really are. And I mean, it's, it's why you should have this show. It's like, interesting. And it's honestly why I came in here wanting to ask a couple questions about you because I think people have a right to see what a character you are. You're a character, Sophia. You're like an old school movie star. You're like an old school.

[Sophia Bush]

Thank you.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And you look like one too.

[Sophia Bush]

That's so sweet.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You did a scene the other day when, I mean, they were hiding your sprout, but you were wearing your wig and it was done in an old school way. And I was like, man, Sophia's like an old school. Have you ever done a period thing?

[Sophia Bush]

No, but it is interesting the way they pin curl the wig before they let it out for a second beach look. Everyone keeps being like, oh my God, you need to be in a 40s movie. You should have been in Pearl Harbor. You're crazy. It's really sweet, 100%.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And I really hope at this point in your career, because we're both trying to work. It's, it's funny. I hope that people give you opportunities that are not just procedurals that you have been a part of and all that, because you really are multi talented and I really hope to see you in, in, in a lot of things. And I put that out there because I, I, I feel the same too. It's really tough as an actor. Like, I mean, oh, we're doing a family comedy. Get Jerry o'. Connell. He'll be good. He'll, he'll have fun. Like, I would like to do some dramatic roles, you know, I mean, I know you can't tell from this interview. But I'm a somewhat serious person, you know.

[Sophia Bush]

Yeah, well, you're a very interested person, to your point. And I think that's, like, the foundation of being a good actor.

[Jerry O'Connell]

You ever get lonely? Like, some. You know, I should say. We're here on location. I asked Sophia out to breakfast, lunch, and dinner every day. A. Because we're both in relationships, and it's very safe to sort of go out with you. There's. There's no. Well, I'm business.

[Sophia Bush]

I'm like, the dream friend for a married guy. Because we're both talking about our gals at home. Like, I'm. I'm not threatening. No to your birth. To your wife.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Like, yeah, I went out to dinner with Sophia again. Yeah, I went out with a.

[Sophia Bush]

You know what I do find really sweet, though, you guys, and this. This is part of what I do love. I think it's very hard to be on location 10 months a year for television, but for a movie, it's really fun. Because at first you were like, hey, we both have our ladies and kids at home, you know, Will you be my dinner buddy? Absolutely. And our. And it's grown. And, like, this morning, it's you, me, Violet, Violet's mom, Tim. Like, you guys, our. Our group has taken over the hotel to the point that the other night, I think there were 15 of us downstairs having dinner, and we were playing a game imposter called Imposter. It's like a faster round version of Mafia. And we got yelled at by the hotel staff because they said we were being too rambunctious. And I was like, oh, yeah. Because we're at the summer camp.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[Sophia Bush]

Like, every actor and producer and writer on our movie now has meals together. And it's so sweet. And I. I love it.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah. But I do. Like, you've been very nice in, like, entertaining me, because I gotta tell you, I. I, you know, you. You live in a household that's crazy. I have teenage kids. You know, we have dogs and cats. You get, like, lonely. You know, you're like, in. Maybe you don't get lonely in this larger hotel room, but in my smaller hotel room, you're like, you gotta do something.

[Sophia Bush]

You know, I totally get it. It's interesting when you get used to the. You know, the noise. It's like part of the beauty of a family. Like, when it's the loudest and craziest at our house, is when Ash will look at me and go, I love this. This. This is my dream come true. And then you Know, obviously, like, we, we come from a multi household family and, and I think that there's such beauty in that because, like, kids get double the love. Right. It's an expansive thing, but on, on our, on our days, on our swap days, like, I have to hold her while she sobs.

[Jerry O'Connell]

That's tough.

[Sophia Bush]

The quiet is so hard for her. It's like she was born to be a mom. And it's such a beautiful thing to watch.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And I'll tell you, as the Ghost.

[Sophia Bush]

Of Christmas, because you have two teenagers.

[Jerry O'Connell]

As, as the Ghost of Christmas future, enjoy it, because once it's over, it's, I mean, it's funny, my wife and I have had conversations like, hey, are we gonna stay together when they're gone?

[Sophia Bush]

Oh, my God, stop it.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I mean, it's like a real, it's a real emotional shift.

[Sophia Bush]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Because there's all this energy.

[Sophia Bush]

Yeah.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And then there's gonna be, that energy is gonna be gone. And, and my wife and I are like, yeah, I think we're gonna, like, what are we gonna do? We've decided we're gonna stay in the house that we're in. You know, a lot of parents, like, get out of there. They downsize or they move somewhere or they change it up.

[Sophia Bush]

Will you guys travel? Will you, will you do something crazy and get like an Airbnb in Paris for a summer? Like, what's your plan?

[Jerry O'Connell]

That's pretty fun. You know, I think we're going to, it's, I think we're just gonna stay local, like where we are. Again, not to the extent that you have, but my wife travels a lot for work and I am traveling for work. So I think we really, we really do covet the time that we're together. You know, we, we really. So I, I, I think we're going to do that.

[Sophia Bush]

That's always been the person who gets on a plane, especially because I, you know, for 15 straight years, didn't live at home. So if I wanted to be there for a birthday, if I wanted to not be a completely absentee person in my life, I'd have to fly. I'd have to fly on a Saturday, fly back to work on a Sunday. And I got so used to traveling, I'll, I'll pick up and go to a different continent tomorrow if I'm available. And it's really interesting to be like, no, I just want to be in like, my cute little apartment in New Jersey and be at home. I don't want to go anywhere. I don't want to do anything it.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Should be said for the record. You can cut this out if I'm not allowed to say it. Sophia's partner is coming to Africa where we're shooting to come visit her.

[Sophia Bush]

So happy.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I said that to my partner and my wife was like, oh, hell no. I'm not flying all that way. I'm perfectly happy here. I love having the bed to myself.

[Sophia Bush]

Amazing. I love that your wife is like, no, I have the bed with the dogs. By.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, man.

[Sophia Bush]

How does Rebecca describe you after. After 20 plus years together? You know, you got. You guys do all the jokes, but you really, you have such a loving and healthy relationship. All joking aside, what's it like all these years in.

[Jerry O'Connell]

All joking aside, I think my wife enjoys me. I think I make her laugh. My wife does say. Did say I'm. That she's much more relaxed when I'm not around, that I'm high strung. I swear to you, this is, this isn't a bit she said to me, there's. That I'm a little. That I'm too intense for her. Like, and I am someone who, when I wake up, I like, have to.

[Sophia Bush]

Go out and do something, you know, buzz about you. Like, you are. I wouldn't, I don't know if I would say you're high, strong. I mean, obviously I haven't lived with you for 25 years.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Say whatever you want because my wife is going to hear this and in the comments say, I totally agree with you. So what is. So what is your.

[Sophia Bush]

No, but you, you, you are at. You have a high frequency. You are interested. You want to go for walks. You, like, we lost you on set yesterday. You were swimming in the fucking ocean. Nobody knew where you were.

[Jerry O'Connell]

I went for a swim.

[Sophia Bush]

You. It was wild to me. I was like, wow, I would never do that. Like, I would never go in the ocean at work because I wanted to. I never do what I want at work. I do what they need me to do. And it's such, it's like a kind of self confidence I've never had and I admire it. And I think you are, especially with the kids on set, like, inspiring them to be bolder and take chances. And it's, it's very lovely. And you know, I know my partner sometimes is like, I need you to calm down. She probably wants to say to me after she listens to this episode, she's gonna be like, sit on your hands and shut the fuck up. You know, I think when someone is. Has like a really nice, like calm hum to them.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah, that's my wife.

[Sophia Bush]

Busy bees like us can be a lot.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[Sophia Bush]

So it's going to be really funny when Rebecca and Ash hang out together to be like, look at these. Yeah. You know, Chuckle Fox. Yeah. Like, now I get it. It's like, sure.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[Sophia Bush]

It's probably weird to like live with.

[Jerry O'Connell]

A comedian because we were young actors. Do you think that has anything to do with it? You think it's like.

[Sophia Bush]

I don't know. I also think people who like improv.

[Jerry O'Connell]

And this is wired how we're wired.

[Sophia Bush]

It's like you want to play all the time and I don't know. I. I go very off and on. Like, you seem to be in play mode always. I can play. And then also I like to sloth. Like, I want to be on the couch.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Yeah.

[Sophia Bush]

Wrapped in a pretzel with her.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Right.

[Sophia Bush]

I want to watch eight episodes of a home renovation show. And that's it.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, this is gonna be your pickup.

[Sophia Bush]

That's my pickup. I bet.

[Jerry O'Connell]

All right, guys, Sophie has to go to work. Everybody. This has been fun.

[Sophia Bush]

I'm gonna have to ask you my last few questions later.

[Jerry O'Connell]

Oh, wow.

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[Jerry O'Connell]

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[Sophia Bush]

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