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Sophia
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Sophia
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Rosie O'Donnell
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Sophia
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Rosie O'Donnell
Foreign
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Sophia
welcome back, whip smarties. Let's dive right back into our fantastic conversation with Rosie o'. Donnell. When you came out in public, I mean, yes, all bets were kind of off societally. I think people realized so much of what they thought they cared about was after 9, 11 happened, like, what are we fighting about? Look what happens in the world. You know, it's like it's a, it's that seismic experience of when you have a death in the family and then everyone stops fighting. You're, I can't believe we wasted all this time. But it was still, I mean, it was still a risk. Like I remember watching Ellen and she came out and her show got canceled. Like I remember those things.
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Rosie O'Donnell
Yes. But I came out because we had had a foster child that we were not allowed to adopt and because we were gay. Yeah, there were two male nurses, Lofton and Cruteaux, who had taken AIDS babies during the AIDS crisis when the parents are both died of drug addiction, taken the HIV positive children and adopted, fostered them. And then some of them sero converted to negative because of their care and treatment. And sometimes that happens with babies. So they went adopt the 14 year old that had seral converted as a toddler and the Florida state government wouldn't allow them to adopt the child that they raised because he was now a viable adoption and they didn't want gay people to adopt him. So they couldn't even adopt the foster child they raised. And that was exactly the position I was in. I could not adopt the foster child I raised because I'm gay. So my choice would be to lie. Are you now or have you ever been a homosexual to lie on the court papers therefore maybe having strange people try to nullify the adoption. And it would have been probably nullified because I am a lesbian and there's, you know, nothing's going to change that. I mean, I don't expect any changes. But look at Jojo Siwa. But she is very young. She's a very young person.
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Sophia
You know, she's finding herself, she's figuring stuff out.
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Rosie O'Donnell
That's what I say. I mean, every gay woman I know has a dalliance with men at some time. I mean, there's very few gold star lesbians as they call Themselves.
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Sophia
Yeah, I know a few, but not a lot. I mean, I spent a very long time thinking I was just a bisexual woman out here. Turns out.
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Rosie O'Donnell
Yeah, don't think so. Yeah, well, you know, it's hard ourselves, right? It's hard to figure out. You know, in my show, I talk about my daughter saying to me, are you non binary? And I said, no. And they said, are you sure? And I said, yes. And they said, then what are you? And I said, I'm an OG. Lesbian bitch is pejorative, especially for a feminist.
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Sophia
Incredible.
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Rosie O'Donnell
11 years old.
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Sophia
Yeah. You're like, let me have my terms.
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Rosie O'Donnell
Well, I was just like, that's a pretty elaborate thought process for a little kid to go to.
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Sophia
But for an 11 year old to know pejorative in the first place is already wildly impressive.
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Rosie O'Donnell
Well, she has a thing called hyperlexia, which means and echolalia, two things that a lot of autistic kids have. One of them is when there's like, a tape recorder in your brain. This is echolalia. And if you hear something, your brain records it, and then you can recite it in the dialect that you heard it. So she was at school, and a boy kept calling her psycho. So I asked the teacher which was the father, and they told me. I went over to the father, introduced myself and said, why does your kid call my kid a psycho? And he goes, listen, it's very upsetting, but my son is very sensitive. And she tells him scary stories. I said, really? I've never heard her tell a scary story. What's the scary story? He says, where's Walter? Waldo. See? Where's Wolf with the striped shirt? How scary is Where's Waldo? He goes, that's what he tells me. I go home, I say, clay, do you have a story? Where's Waldo? She said, yeah, I tell it at school a lot. Half the kids like it, half the kids hate it. Those are pretty good odds. I said, yeah, you're right. Those are pretty good odds. Can you tell me the story? She says, yeah. She takes a breath. She goes, it was a dark and dreary night in the bowels of the kingdom. The dungeons were full of stank from rats and fetid. I said to her, stop, stop, stop. What are you doing? She said, that's. That's the story of. Of Where's Waldo? That's how it begins. And she can recite the entire thing. That's called echolalia. And then she has hyperlexia. When she was in second grade, the teacher said, we have to Test her vocabulary. And they give kids in second grade 100 words. And she got 99 right. And the only word she got wrong was broom. And that's because she said a sweeper, because she used to watch Peppa Pig, and that's what they call it on Peppa Pig. And when she was two to four and a half, she spoke with a British accent where people would say, we'd be at the park, and she'd say, mommy, might I have a spot of tea? And the woman would say, you adopted from London? I said, no, she's from Texas. She has autism, echolalia, and hyperlexia.
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Sophia
Wow.
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Rosie O'Donnell
So she's like this little.
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Sophia
She's like a little linguistic prodigy.
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Rosie O'Donnell
Yes.
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Sophia
Incredible.
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Rosie O'Donnell
And she has, you know, she has moderate autism. You know, not. People say, hers is very light. I'm like, theirs is very light. I'm like, no, it's actually moderate. And, you know, I just don't always discuss the more difficult stuff because I feel as though, you know, that's her business. The light that I show her in is the brilliance of her.
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Sophia
Yeah, of course. Is it an interesting thing to have a young one with neurodifference? Because one of the things that fascinates me, even learning about my own, where I'm like, oh, it's not just me. Like, neither. Interesting. Okay. Nothing like being an overachiever who gets diagnosed in your 40s. That's a fun journey.
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Rosie O'Donnell
Yes, exactly.
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Sophia
I think about what it must be like to be a kid learning how your brain works. Now, because there's so much research. I mean, even like a few months ago, researchers believe that they've proven that ADHD is a developmental advantage. And they sort of went through the whole reasoning of this and what it offers in terms of creative problem solving and how ADHD brains helped us survive crazier times when there weren't guaranteed resources. And, like, I wish I'd known this.
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Rosie O'Donnell
I completely believe that. Well, yeah, I always tell people, you know, ADD has really worked for me. Yeah. You know, I don't know what to tell you, but when I was on my show, the University of Seattle, I believe it was a Bill Gates study, was doing all this autism research. And they called and sent a letter. They wanted to test me for autism because of my ability to retain lyrics and jingles and songs. And they said, it's really not normal what you're able to do. And I was like, wow, that's exciting. But I have a kid, and I can't. I'm doing a show. I can't really fly to be tested for three days. And in case I might have autism, which at the time, you know, I didn't think twice about it. But now that I've been raising this child, I go, I see. You know, I used to think all my friends who had kids who were autistic, I thought I should be the one to get an autistic kid. I would understand. And I think I. The way that you have to, if you're an autism parent and, and you learn your own language and routines with them that are often misunderstood by people who love you and love the child.
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Sophia
Yes.
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Rosie O'Donnell
You know, like my child sleeps in the bed with me still, and they're 13 and it's exhausting. It's exhausting to not, you know, to be hit with, you know, a kick, you know, not in a violent way, just sleeping.
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Sophia
Sleeping. Kids are very active, very active.
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Rosie O'Donnell
And, you know, a lot of people have judgment in my world and say, you know, you have to do this, you have to do that. And I thought she was out now. She was out for about six months. And then I went away to Australia to work for three weeks. And when I came back, back in the bed. Right. So everyone that I talk to, all of our helpers, everyone says when they're ready, they will go, they'll go. And then that will be that. Don't worry, this is not going to be, you know, they're going to end up their whole life doing this, you know.
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Sophia
Right. What a gift, though, to be in this time, you know, that your kid gets to be raised by you. Because if, if you were your kid's age with your parents, you might not have been given the patience.
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Rosie O'Donnell
No, no.
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Sophia
To develop in the way you needed to.
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Rosie O'Donnell
Yeah. Everyone thought that you have to be stricter with these kids. My kids think that too. They're like, you have to be spector with her. I'm like, listen, you guys, this is a different situation. You guys didn't sleep with me, remember? What, do you think I changed as a mom or did the kid change? What's. And, and there's a diagnosis, you know.
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Sophia
Yeah.
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Rosie O'Donnell
There's a doctor's diagnosis of this. This is someone who does not have Apple software. They have some strange computer that you have to figure out how to use and it's not one you've ever seen before and you're not good at coding and you don't know and you just keep freaking hitting the keys and trying this and trying that and you know, and mostly their self esteem. Now, if I were to send you pictures of how they just went out. We're here in the Jersey Shore. We are doing a family two weeks hangout at the Jersey Shore, and my son, who just had a baby and his wife are coming with the baby, who's three months old. So that's unbelievable. But we were at the Jersey Shore and she had on a green wig. She's 13. Goggles and leather gloves. It's 85 degrees. And a skirt and boots.
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Sophia
Amazing.
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Rosie O'Donnell
Different kinds. She dresses like Cyndi Lauper in 1980.
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Sophia
I was going to say. This feels very Betsy Johnson. Cyndi Lauper. Yes, yes, yes.
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Rosie O'Donnell
1980.
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Sophia
So cool.
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Rosie O'Donnell
Yeah. So many artists I know have ADHD, autism spectrum. They have something. They have some four letter, three letter ditty. And, you know, figuring out yourself is a life journey. You know, it's not like you. Oh, well, that's what I am. So therefore I stop growing and I just stay in this one definition of who I am. But moving to Ireland really forced me to step out of my comfort zone.
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Sophia
You know, I was gonna ask if some of this feels related to getting so far outside the system you've been used to, because a different brain is, to your point, a different operating system. And I. I'm so curious what it's been like to live overseas and outside of the. Of the sort of American ness we're all so steeped in.
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Rosie O'Donnell
Well, you know, the greatest thing about it is the lack of celebrity culture in Ireland because, you know, people would say to us, welcome, Clay. Welcome, Rosie. You belong here in Ireland. Never. Can I have a picture? Can I have. So Clay and I go to this place and where. It's an outdoor place where you can get a burger and couple next to us with a little baby. And Clay's playing with the baby and me and the couple are talking. So it turns out we sort of had dinner together, but not at the same table, really close. And yeah, after about two hours, they said, thank you for talking to us, Rosie. And I just want to let you know we're both big fans. And. And I said, oh, you just thought you'd bring it up here at the end of the dinner. And he goes, well, it's not the most important thing now, is it? And I was like a sentence never heard in America.
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Sophia
Wow.
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Rosie O'Donnell
And so there's a lack of celebrity culture which allows you to be seen and live as a full, completely integrated person, you know, with. With no, none of the tendrils of fame. Right, right. The drags behind you sometimes. And, yeah, you know, it's very hard to talk about because in America, it's held up as the be all end all. So if you say anything about it that, you know, people get mad, you
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Sophia
know, what do you, God forbid you complain.
- [16:37]
Rosie O'Donnell
You're ruining my dream of what it is. Just be quiet and be happy you're there, you know?
- [16:41]
Sophia
Yeah. And now a word from our sponsors who make this show possible. This is for those who experience allergic reactions from food, medicine, insects or other allergy triggers. About 60% of patients do not consistently carry their epinephrine needle injectors, which scares me. And that's why I wanted to tell you all about our new friends at Nefi. Nephi is the only needle free epinephrine nasal spray for those who weigh 33 pounds or more. It's used for the emergency treatment of allergic reactions, including anaphylaxis, which is a big deal. Nefi works as well as a needle injector and it's designed to be safe and easy to use at the first sign of symptoms, so in a high stress moment, you can quickly treat an allergic reaction. Nefi is also small and discreet, so it's easier to carry as part of your everyday routine. That way you always have it with you if the unexpected happens. You can pay as little as $0 for at least four Nefi devices two packs through the copay Savings program with commercial insurance if eligible. Patients should not pay more than $199 for NEFI. If you have medical conditions or take certain medicines, your condition may worsen, so tell your doctor about nasal, heart, thyroid or kidney issues, high blood pressure, Parkinson's, diabetes if you're pregnant or breastfeeding, and all medications you take. Side effects include nasal discomfort, headache, runny nose, shakiness and throat irritation. These are not all side effects. Before you get a new epinephrine prescription or refill, ask a doctor about needle free Nephi today. Visit nephi.com that's n e f-f y.com or call 1-877-my-EPHY to learn more.
- [18:37]
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- [19:47]
Sophia
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Rosie O'Donnell
But sometimes it's gone before you know it.
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Sophia
Right.
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Rosie O'Donnell
You know, it can be gone in a flash. Like mine was gone after the first day of my show. Wow.
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Xolair Advertisement Voice
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Sophia
Just overnight.
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Rosie O'Donnell
Overnight.
- [22:39]
Sophia
Holy.
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Rosie O'Donnell
Now, I had done a bunch of movies I had, you know, so.
- [22:43]
Sophia
But it's different.
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Rosie O'Donnell
I was not known. But to be super known, like. And in the category with someone as powerful and meteor esque as Oprah Winfrey.
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Sophia
Yeah.
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Rosie O'Donnell
No, I mean, that's a pretty powerful soul.
- [23:01]
Sophia
Yes.
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Rosie O'Donnell
In. In every way that you can measure it.
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Sophia
You know, when you think about getting some of your. Your personhood back over there, in a way. Do you think the space Ireland gave you is why you're ready to come back and do your next show?
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Rosie O'Donnell
I think the space Ireland gave me made me want to come back and see my son's baby. And I had been doing it in Australia, in Scotland, in. I had been doing it in Europe. So I've done about 50 or 60 show performances of it already.
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Sophia
My God, I didn't realize.
- [23:42]
Rosie O'Donnell
Yeah. So then when I be in America to see my son's baby, I said, can we just do like, you know, four, like 12 shows, maybe four a week. And in a little theater, Daryl Roth, who's a big Broadway producer I've worked with before, and I really enjoy her. She's just one another Tony. And. And so she said, you know, let me present it and we'll do 12 shows. What do you say? And, you know, so we're going to do that. And, you know, I wanted to see with the changes that I've made because the play is essentially a love letter to Ireland. It really is. And so I had to take out a lot of the Irish stuff. The second part of the show is really much more about all the Irish stuff.
- [24:35]
Sophia
Right.
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Rosie O'Donnell
And it starts with the day my mother died and it ends with the last day I saw her. So there are very sad parts in it as well. And sometimes people in the audience cry, you know, and. Or they're very startled at the beginning when that's how it starts. They're like, right, Wait a minute. Isn't this supposed to be a comedy show?
- [24:55]
Sophia
Right? They're like, wait, Rosie, you're so.
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Rosie O'Donnell
Wait a second. Why am I crying? Where's the Trump joke, folks?
- [25:01]
Sophia
Right, right, right. We thought. We thought you were gonna call him a petty little.
- [25:05]
Rosie O'Donnell
Exactly. Come on, do it. Do it.
- [25:09]
Sophia
Yeah. Wow. Well, so you kick off next week in New York, Wednesday the 22nd. What do you think it's gonna feel like to be back in New York for you? Because, like, this. I know Ireland's home, but, like, this is home, too, right?
- [25:24]
Rosie O'Donnell
Yeah, this is definitely home. You know, it feels good and familiar. It also feels very loud. I feel a little bit more anxiety just, you know, in New York. Sometimes the days New York wins, you know, New York is. Is a beast, right? And where I'm staying and where I'm doing the show, and, you know, I'm. I'm whole. I sold everything before I left. And so I'm hoping to get, like, a place in New Jersey near my kids so that I could. When I'm home, we can have a home base here as well, you know, so we're planning on. On doing that, and, you know, I don't know how long we'll stay there. I think it really does depend on what happens politically in the country, and if I feel mentally healthy enough to, you know, battle those. Those demons. And. And some days I do. Some days I feel very strong, and other days I feel like, oh, boy, this is a lot, you know? Yeah, he's like, bombards you. He. It's always. He's doing something. You can't even watch the soccer game or, you know, he ruins everything.
- [26:32]
Sophia
It's really like dealing with him is like a very horrible version of the tomato festival that happens in Italy every summer.
- [26:42]
Rosie O'Donnell
Just.
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Sophia
You're just getting pelted in the face all the time.
- [26:45]
Rosie O'Donnell
It's like, stop.
- [26:47]
Sophia
You know? And I know that's their whole thing. Like, him and Bannon, they're like, flood the zone with. And they won't know what to. But it's like, nobody wants to be on the receiving end of a fire hose of. And. And that. That's your goal just, like, says so much about you. So I get it. There are days, like, I. I got asked this morning if I'd seen something horrible, and I was like, no. I. I just, like, sometimes I need a day where I don't look at the news. But then because I'm such a communicator of the news to people, I get yelled at if I haven't communicated about the most recent. And I'm like, I. I don't know what to tell you guys. I'm just one person and sometimes I gotta turn off.
- [27:24]
Rosie O'Donnell
Yeah. But I gotta tell you, I took all of the American news channels off of my tv.
- [27:29]
Sophia
Yeah.
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Rosie O'Donnell
And I only watch Irish and English now.
- [27:32]
Sophia
Yeah.
- [27:33]
Rosie O'Donnell
And sometimes wash Al Jazeera just to see what's happening over there.
- [27:39]
Sophia
Yeah.
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Rosie O'Donnell
And I am so much calmer for it.
- [27:42]
Sophia
Yeah.
- [27:43]
Rosie O'Donnell
I can't tell you the difference that it makes in my mental health and my happiness level, you know, my ability to experience joy still. And because it's very, very hard to experience joy when you're in the thick of the Epstein library. Yes. When you're in the thick of that young boy that was left on the island by friends. It's so awful that you can't believe what the Supreme Court is doing and doing boldly in front of everyone. And is he going to let us have elections? That's my big question. Is he going to let us? Or is he going to, you know, make some sort of tragic event occur and then declare that it's too dangerous and this is a time of war and we can't all vote.
- [28:34]
Sophia
Right.
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Rosie O'Donnell
So, you know, I think it's scary.
- [28:39]
Sophia
Yeah. And now a word from our sponsors. This is for those who experience allergic reactions from food, medicine, insects or other allergy triggers. About 60% of patients do not consistently carry their epinephrine needle injectors, which scares me. And that's why I wanted to tell you all about our new friends at Nephi. Nefi is the only needle free epinephrine nasal spray for those who weigh 33 pounds or more. It's used for the emergency treatment of allergic reactions, including anaphylaxis, which is a big deal. NEFI works as well as a needle injector and it's designed to be safe and easy to use at the first sign of symptoms. So in a high stress moment, you can quickly treat an allergic reaction. NEFI is also small and discreet, so it's easier to carry as part of your everyday routine. That way you always have it with you if the unexpected happens. You can pay as little as $0 for at least four Nefi devices, two packs through the copay Savings program with commercial insurance if eligible patients should not pay more than $199 for NEFI. If you have medical conditions or take certain medicines, your condition may worsen. So tell your doctor about nasal heart, thyroid or kidney blood pressure, Parkinson's, diabetes, if you're pregnant or breastfeeding and all medications you take. Side effects include nasal discomfort, headache, runny nose, shakiness and throat irritation. These are not all side effects. Before you get a new epinephrine prescription or refill, ask a doctor about needle free Nephi today. Visit nephi.com that's N-E-F-F-Y.com or call 1-877-my-NECHEW to learn more.
- [30:31]
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Sophia
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Sophia
Part of the practice for me, because I can really get sucked under with it all, you know, and then I'm not sleeping and then it's like 2 o' clock and I haven't eaten anything and I'm just like, oh, this is not a good. I'm not treating my body kindly. Like, I would never treat my kid this way. What am I doing? And I think about it and I, I come back a lot. There's a, a poem I love by a poet, Jack Gilbert, and he. It's called A Brief for the Defense. After, after our show, I'm going to send it to you. But the, the sort of thesis of it. And he talks about how no matter what, like, you could essentially be having the most glorious day. And then you look over there and somebody's suffering in the most hideous way. And, and the, the thesis of, the point when you, of the poem, when he really drills it down, is there's all sorts of things we can't live without, even hope sometimes. But we cannot survive without delight. Like, the human spirit has to have delight. And so when you, when you claim it, you keep it alive for everyone else who can't touch it in the moment. And it's kind of my reminder, you know, if I've spent all day calling representatives or on 46 Zooms and then raging about a thing and I'm writing an op ed, I go, I gotta like, get outside and listen to the kids laugh.
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Rosie O'Donnell
Exactly.
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Sophia
Because I have to remember what I'm fighting for. Like, I have to have that.
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Rosie O'Donnell
You have to do it. And, you know, and, and that's what I'm, you know, I'm fighting for peace of mind and my own mental health. And I know enough to take it seriously. Some people don't survive. People I know and love, you know.
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Sophia
Yep.
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Rosie O'Donnell
Lost family members and loved ones and, you know, nobody gets out of this unscathed. Right.
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Sophia
Yeah, well, but, but I hear delight even when you talk about the show, when you talk about going to host
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Rosie O'Donnell
Jimmy Kimmel, like, yes, my grandbaby. I have pure delight being here on the Jersey Shore, even though there was a horrible storm last night and the lightning hit so close to the house that the fire alarm went off and kept saying, fire, fire. Every time, strike. The alarm went off and screamed, fire, fire. Which was not good for anyone, I don't think.
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Sophia
Wow.
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Rosie O'Donnell
But there was no fire. Not Wood, Kahana.
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Sophia
I'll knock on my wood, too. Thank God. You know, it's my favorite question to ask everybody, but I'm really curious for you, because you. Everyone's holding their world, but you're a person who holds really like you hold your arms outstretched, wide. For a lot of people and a lot of experiences, you know, you're in this season that this refamous, as your kids say, like a reinvention, a moving, a reclamation, all these things for you. What feels like your work in progress right now.
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Rosie O'Donnell
You know, my work in progress is to maintain my equilibrium. Right. I. I don't think I'm at my best when I am raging. And that's why, you know, the view for me was very difficult because there were things that were enraging by the way the show was run and. And the subjects that we were often asked to talk about that I thought, you know, this is demeaning to women or, you know, whatever the issues were. That is not the best use of my time or talent, you know, when I know that. And I took a while to learn that. And so, you know, my philanthropy can interrupt my ability to find the delight in life and in. And that means you have to participate. You have to participate. You know, I used to smoke pot before I went to Ireland because it's illegal there. So in a year and a half, I haven't smoked any pot. Right. And I feel a little bit clearer, to tell you the truth. I feel more present, obviously, in my life and less forgetful, less taken out of something, you know, and if you would have told me a year and a half or two years ago, oh, you're gonna go there and you're gonna quit pot and you're gonna feel better, I would have said, no freaking way. You know, no way. And. And I'm not advocating it for anyone besides someone who thinks they'd like to participate more in their own life and spend less time trying to quell the. The 12 monkeys in your brain.
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Sophia
Right. But I think what I'm hearing you say is you're really open to possibilities you didn't see coming.
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Rosie O'Donnell
Totally.
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Sophia
And that feels like a really cool place to be.
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Rosie O'Donnell
Yeah. And. And I feel like what you're supposed to. What's supposed to happen will happen, and I'm at peace with that. You know, I'm like. They're like, what. What do you want to do after Jimmy Kimmel? I. I just want to do my best. I just want to, you know, be as good as I can be and be joyful and be. Be happy and know that some of those people who believed in him are good people and they were led astray, and we have to lay our arms open for them, too. We all have been there, and this is liberty and justice for all. Still,
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Sophia
I also think when you've gone full circle through the emotions of it, I understand the anger is righteous. I'm angry all the time. I. I think when you're frustrated, people haven't been listening, great. But you can't stay in the frustration or the anger. The whole point of knowing better is also doing better. And so if we can do better, if we've known better, we have to be willing to say, oh, you're ready to do better? Then come do it with us. Because the. The other part of it is, like, what, we're going to cut off our nose despite our face?
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Rosie O'Donnell
Like, no, we're not. You know, we're not freeing the insurrectionists. No, we're not. We're not saying, you know, every crime that you've ever committed is forgiven over your newfound understanding of who this man is. But I do think there has to be, you know that roomy quote right in the field next to right and wrong. There's a field.
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Sophia
I'll go, I'll meet you there.
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Rosie O'Donnell
Yeah, right. So, yeah, that. That's what I'm. What I'm hoping for. That's what I'm trying to manifest. That's what I mean. And knowing, like, listen, Jimmy asked me to do this. It's quite an honor. I'm gonna do it. You know, I love that for you. And I'm gonna try my best and have fun and enjoy it, you know? Enjoy it.
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Sophia
Yeah. Choices, Aren't they great? It's why Plan B made over the counter emergency contraception legal more than 20 years ago, because now you have a backup plan and a choice. That's freedom to be. Plan B is the number one ob GYN recommended emergency contraception. It is not an abortion pill. Get it immediately at all major retailers in store or delivery. Use Plan B emergency contraception as directed within 72 hours after unprotected sex. The sooner you take it, the better it works.
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Rosie O'Donnell
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Ice Cube's Big Three basketball is heating up before the World cup final. Tune in to Big Three this Sunday. Reigning MVP Michael Beasley and the defending champion Miami 305 play a must win game against the undefeated Dallas Power, led by coach Nancy Lieberman. Then Dwight Howard and the LA Riot, coming fresh off a win, look to knock off the undefeated Chicago Triplets, led by coach Dr. J. The game played the way you love. Watch live Sunday on CBS at 2pm Eastern, 11am Pacific and catch replays Monday on BET. Presented by iHeart.
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Rosie O'Donnell
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Sophia
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