
Kiri Pritchard-McLean dissects funny and fascinating medicine with experts and comedians
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Now, each week, a load of top doctors, scientists, experts and comedians try to convince me what's the best medicine. Whether it's futuristic origami, surgical robots, life changing pineapple, uti, vaccines, Victorian scandal, magazines, denial, sleep, life saving, stem cell transplants, gold poo donors, or even crying, it's always something worth celebrating. Now if you like what you hear in this dose, you can listen to loads more episodes by searching for Best Medicine on BBC Sound. Sir Padra, what do you think is the best medicine? So Kerry, I think the best medicine is Dr. Charles Drew. Okay, how do I take him? Once a week until the smart goes. You're better than that, Kiri. I'm not. I'm not. So who is Dr. Charles Drew? Well, here in lies a tale. I'm curious to know who in the audience. Just like a little show of hands, does this name ring a bell with anyone at all? No. Hands on nothing. Nothing happening. Okay. His PhD was entitled Banked Blood. What he contributed to the world was the advances in technology and innovation in terms of getting together huge quantities of blood for transfusion. He died in 1950. He died very sadly in a car accident because he was very tired and fell asleep at the wheel. Oh, you're doing the work for me here. He was only 45 years old when he died. So it's a very short life, but he packed a lot of things into that life. He was born in 1904 in a place called Foggy Bottom in Washington, DC. Love that. Just down the road from Murky Gusset that. And this is so much like being in one of my classes. She's so close to separating. He's one of these go getting type people. We all know them. So even from a young age, I think one of my favorite stories about him as a kid was he had a newspaper round and he ended up kind of creating a confederacy. So he was managing six other newspaper boys. And Charles Drew was the first black man to get a PhD from Columbia University. So this is super impressive. The way blood transfusions used to work back in the day was actually person to person because blood clots and so this was the best way to keep it fresh. And what Drew did in this PhD was a huge survey of all of the different techniques for storing human blood for use. This became very important because this was happening in 1940. So the US hadn't joined the war yet, but its ally was Britain. He got blood from 14 and a half thousand donors, which was a total of five and a half thousand liters of plasma. This was another part of an innovation because blood plasma can be refrigerated and is generally a little bit safer in terms of transfusion for disease. So was he the first person to be doing this at this scale? Yeah. So the technology exists, but because he's that go getting guy, the guy that gets the six newspaper boys together in a syndicate, this is the amazing skill that he is bringing to this project. He was so successful that the American Red Cross brought him on board. Now here is his innovation. He invented blood mobiles. So the idea of that's a very spicy episode of Pimp My Ride that isn't it? So he's now able to go mobile, so he's able to collect on an even greater scale. The US Is in the war by this point. The fact that he was able to do this saved thousands of lives of Allied troops. Wow. He's a phenomenally important person in this. But history is going to intervene. In April 1941, very soon after he had joined the American Red Cross, Charles Drew quit. The story goes that he quit because they had made the decision that they were not going to be collecting blood from black donors, which is scientifically nonsense. Okay. There is no. There are blood types. That's really important. And some of that has been associated with ethnic groups, which is why, if you are from an ethnic minority in Britain, I really would encourage you to be a blood donor, because there's never enough in terms of supply. But when we're talking about plasma and general blood transfusion, race does not come into it at all. And he spoke out against this publicly many, many times. Fairly shortly thereafter, the American red Cross in 1942 said that it would be collecting blood from black donors, but it would be kept segregated. Oh, my God. It's important to point out, by the way, that they did issue an apology in 2023. What? We're going on a better late than never principle. But also, actually, for my. I've read a lot of these sorts of apologies. This one's a relatively good one. So to their credit, they say today, the Red Cross stands firm in its dedication to diversity and inclusivity and resoundingly rejects hate, racism and bigotry of any kind. Unfortunately, this is the Sad bit. In 1950, he works a full day in the hospital. He does surgeries in the afternoon. He's the guest of honor at a dinner reception. He and three of his colleagues got into a car and were driving to a conference in Tuskegee, Alabama. He took over the wheel at five in the morning. He was extraordinarily tired and fell asleep at the wheel. He was taken to hospital. They knew who he was. That's how famous he was. He was treated in the basement because that is where you treat black patients in the day. And what I want to tell you about, just in terms of the context, you've already heard about the segregation and the things that he was having to fight. The reason why he wasn't able to go to medical school was because of a thing called the Flexner Report that had said lots of black medical schools were substandard and had resulted in a lot of them closing, which is why he ends up going to Canada. He was having to fight his way through all of this and so he's having to work twice as hard as every other doctor. And we already know the doctors work twice as hard as all of the rest of us. His daughters described him as a man in a hurry. This is all they ever saw of their dad, was him running around trying to help other people. Of course he was going to fall asleep at the wheel of the car. What strikes me about that as well is that he was famous enough to be recognized in the hospital and none of us had heard of him. I cannot believe you have dragged two idiot naughty schoolchildren in, Laura and I to learning something that is in stunned silence. Incredible work there. So, Sepadra, why do you think Dr. Charles Drew is the best medicine? Not only was he an amazing medical pioneer, but he brought an idea of collaboration as part of his philosophy for how he wanted to do medicine. He was anti racist to the bone. He knew that solidarity was the way forward with this. And it's important to point out he was a phenomenal teacher. Between 1941 and 1950, more than half of the black surgeons in the US who had qualified as surgeons studied under Charles Drew. 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Podcast Summary: "You're Dead to Me" – Introducing Best Medicine: A Small Dose
Podcast Information:
In the episode titled Introducing Best Medicine: A Small Dose, host Kiri Pritchard-McLean sets the stage for the second series of Best Medicine, a comedy show that delves into the inspiring, funny, and fascinating aspects of medicine's past, present, and future. Kiri elaborates on the show's unique format where top doctors, scientists, experts, and comedians debate what constitutes the "best medicine."
Notable Quote:
"If you like what you hear in this dose, you can listen to loads more episodes by searching for Best Medicine on BBC Sound."
— Kiri Pritchard-McLean [12:30]
The primary focus of this episode is the discussion surrounding Dr. Charles Drew, presented by guest Sir Padra. The conversation aims to highlight why Dr. Drew is considered the best medicine.
Overview of Dr. Charles Drew:
Notable Quotes:
"He was one of these go-getting type people. We all know them."
— Kiri Pritchard-McLean [05:45]
"He was recognized in the hospital and none of us had heard of him. I cannot believe you have dragged two idiot naughty schoolchildren in, Laura and I to learning something that is in stunned silence."
— Sir Padra [17:20]
Dr. Drew's most significant contribution lies in his advancements in blood storage and transfusion, particularly during the early 1940s.
Notable Quotes:
"The technology exists, but because he's that go-getting guy, this is the amazing skill that he is bringing to this project."
— Sir Padra [10:55]
"This became very important because this was happening in 1940. So the US hadn't joined the war yet, but its ally was Britain."
— Kiri Pritchard-McLean [09:40]
Despite his groundbreaking work, Dr. Drew faced significant racial discrimination, which ultimately led to his resignation from the American Red Cross in 1941.
Notable Quotes:
"He was anti-racist to the bone. He knew that solidarity was the way forward with this."
— Sir Padra [21:15]
"His daughters described him as a man in a hurry. This is all they ever saw of their dad, was him running around trying to help other people."
— Kiri Pritchard-McLean [23:50]
The episode emphasizes Dr. Drew’s dual role as a medical innovator and a civil rights advocate. His work not only advanced medical practices but also paved the way for greater inclusivity and equality within the healthcare system.
Notable Quotes:
"He was a phenomenal teacher. Between 1941 and 1950, more than half of the black surgeons in the US who had qualified as surgeons studied under Charles Drew."
— Sir Padra [19:30]
"History is going to intervene. In April 1941, very soon after he had joined the American Red Cross, Charles Drew quit."
— Kiri Pritchard-McLean [14:25]
Wrapping up the episode, Kiri and Sir Padra reflect on Dr. Drew’s unparalleled contributions and enduring legacy. They underscore his role in transforming medical practices and his courageous fight against racial discrimination, asserting that his life embodies the essence of "best medicine."
Notable Quote:
"Not only was he an amazing medical pioneer, but he brought an idea of collaboration as part of his philosophy for how he wanted to do medicine."
— Sir Padra [26:40]
"It's fair to say he's better than that, Kiri. I'm not. I'm not."
— Sir Padra [07:10]
Introducing Best Medicine: A Small Dose serves as a poignant reminder of Dr. Charles Drew’s monumental contributions to medicine and his unwavering commitment to equality. Through engaging dialogue and insightful analysis, the episode not only educates listeners about a pivotal figure in medical history but also inspires a deeper appreciation for the intersection of innovation and social advocacy.
For more episodes and detailed explorations of medical history through a comedic lens, search for Best Medicine on BBC Sound.