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Crossing Faiths
Hosted by John Pinna and Elliot Toman · EN
Crossing Faiths is a podcast where people from diverse religious backgrounds openly discuss everything you're NOT supposed to discuss at the dinner table. Join hosts Jt Pinna, a career national security, international affairs, and D.C. insider, and Elliot Toman, a former media director in the Evangelical church, as they engage in lively conversations about the impact of faith on current events. Crossing Faiths also welcomes guests from various religious and experiential backgrounds to share their insights. The podcast was initially developed in collaboration with Matt Hawkins, a former policy director for the Southern Baptist Convention. Their conversations are built on a decade of collaboration, advocating in Washington, D.C., for religious freedom domestically and globally. The two developed the podcast to share conversations that model friendship and cooperation despite profound differences in religion and background. The podcast has reached almost 3 million multi-faith listeners, 83% millennials.
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200 - The Unholy Union
Apr 1300:53:29Tap to summarizeIn this episode of Crossing Faiths, John Pinna and Elliot Toman discuss the increasingly blurred lines between religion and governance in the United States, specifically examining the impact of the Trump administration on the separation of church and state. They explore the "unholy union" between Donald Trump and the broader Christian community, analyzing how his charisma and strategic alignment on issues like abortion have garnered loyalty from diverse religious blocks despite his often amoral public persona. The dialogue shifts into deeper theological and geopolitical territory, touching upon Five-Point Calvinism, the concept of a "sovereign magistrate," and the ambition to restore a "Christendom" framework both domestically and through interventionist policies in the Middle East. Pinna and Toman also contrast these Western religious-political movements with the internal struggles of the Islamic world, discussing post-colonialism, the Pahlavi dynasty in Iran, and the dangers of approaching modern conflicts as "faith-based wars" led by opportunistic rather than principled leaders.Support Crossing Faiths
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199 - Rev. Marian Edmonds
Apr 600:53:03Tap to summarizeIn this episode of Crossing Faiths, John speaks with Rev. Marian Edmonds, who works at the intersection of faith, values, and technology. They discuss their shared involvement in the AI and spirituality initiative at Harvard University, as well as their mutual interests in AI, religion, and the concept of "covenantal pluralism." Rev. Marian explains how she has been working to apply AI within religious freedom and human rights spaces, emphasizing the importance of diverse, interfaith engagement to protect the rights of all people. They explore the ethical challenges of using AI in these spaces, including the need for a "moral compass" to navigate bias and ensure that technological tools remain helpful, transparent, and aligned with human values. https://www.marianedmondsallen.com/ Rev. Dr. Marian Edmonds-Allen works at the intersection of faith, values, and technology, serving with the AI & Spirituality Initiative at the Neurospirituality Lab at Harvard Medical School and as Senior Advisor for Moral Compass at American Security Foundation. Her work focuses on the human-centered and ethical development and use of artificial intelligence, with particular attention to how emerging technologies can support spiritual well-being, moral agency, and human dignity. A seasoned pastor and community leader, Dr. Edmonds-Allen brings decades of experience working across lines of difference—religious, ideological, and cultural—to foster collaboration grounded in compassion, conviction, and shared purpose. Her approach is shaped by the principles of covenantal pluralism and a deep commitment to helping people live in alignment with their core beliefs, especially in times of rapid social and technological change. She also serves as Executive Director of Parity, a nonprofit dedicated to healing divides and advancing the dignity of all people. Across all of her work, Dr. Edmonds-Allen is known for building bridges, elevating conscience, and championing the spiritual and moral capacities that make us fully human.Support Crossing Faiths
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198 - Deadly Theater
Mar 1601:07:02Tap to summarizeIn this episode of Crossing Faiths, John and Elliot discuss the multifaceted relationship between religion, politics, and power, specifically focusing on how symbolism and visual representations—like vestments and tattoos—serve as tools of authority and identity for both historical figures and modern political actors. They explore the intersection of American political theater, such as the use of military imagery and "war-room" rhetoric, with religious concepts like the apocalypse, the second coming, and the idea of a "chosen" status. Throughout the conversation, the hosts critically examine the dangers of conflating political agendas with divine mandate, questioning how individuals in positions of power utilize religious narratives to justify policies, influence public opinion, and command a loyal following, ultimately reflecting on the ethical implications of using faith to sanitize or propel political warfare.Support Crossing Faiths
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197: Eitan Diamond
Mar 900:53:57Tap to summarizeIn this episode of Crossing Faiths, John speaks with Eitan Diamond, a legal expert at the Humanitarian Law Center in Israel, about his journey and professional focus on human rights and international law. Their conversation spans Diamond’s personal background as a South African Jew who moved to Israel during the apartheid era, reflecting on the complexity of that transition and his later career. They explore the critical intersection of human dignity, equality, and international humanitarian law, particularly in the context of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and the impact of settlements. Throughout the discussion, they critically examine the use of political and legal terminology, such as "apartheid" and "genocide," assessing their relevance and limitations in describing the realities on the ground, while emphasizing the importance of securing rights for vulnerable populations and the ongoing challenge of achieving a just, two-state political framework. https://en-law.tau.ac.il/profile/eitandiamond_65Support Crossing Faiths
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196 - Ambassador Robert Rehak
Mar 200:35:21Tap to summarizeIn this episode of Crossing Faiths, John speaks with Ambassador Robert Rehak, the Czech Republic’s Special Envoy for the Holocaust, Interfaith Dialogue, and Freedom of Religion and Belief, about his extensive global efforts to protect marginalized communities and promote tolerance. The conversation creatively opens by comparing his human rights work to the Czech legend of Houska Castle—a fortress built to seal the gates of hell—before delving into his real-world responsibilities as the Chair of the International Religious Freedom or Belief Alliance. Ambassador Rehak shares compelling examples of his advocacy, including his efforts to free a Nigerian prisoner of conscience, unique social experiments dressing as different religious figures at soccer matches to combat Islamophobia, and organizing interfaith sports tournaments for Jewish and Muslim youth. They also discuss urgent global crises, such as the destruction of religious sites and oppression of minorities in Russian-occupied Ukraine, the systemic persecution of Uyghur Muslims in China, and the ongoing struggles in Syria. Drawing on his own poignant experiences growing up behind the Iron Curtain in communist Czechoslovakia and participating in the Velvet Revolution, Ambassador Rehak underscores his deep personal dedication to democracy and concludes with a hopeful call to action for everyday people to champion religious freedom and global unity. Robert Řehák, Ph.D. is Special Envoy for Holocaust, Interfaith Dialogue and Freedom of Religion, Czech career diplomat, Head of the Czech Delegation to the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA), Chair of the International Religious Freedom or Belief Alliance (IRFBA) or the Article 18 Alliance, published scholar of biblical proper names and the Dead Sea Scrolls, and official Hebrew interpreter. He studied at Charles University in Prague, Ruprecht-Karls-Universität in Heidelberg and Hebrew University in Jerusalem. As a researcher, he participates in several international research projects in the field of interfaith dialogue and sociology of religion. He is the initiator of the new Czech National Strategy of Combating anti-Semitism and co-ordinated the recent conference on the Terezín Declaration and the 2023 FoRB Ministerial in Prague. He is proficient in Czech, English, Hebrew, German and Russian, and reads classical Latin, Greek and Arabic. He lives in Prague with his wife and four children.Support Crossing Faiths
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195: 195: Dennis Petri
Feb 900:33:46Tap to summarizeIn this episode of Crossing Faiths, John Pinna speaks with Dennis Petri, focusing on the evolution and current state of metrics used to gauge religious freedom and persecution. Petri explains how documenting religious incidents is crucial for making them visible to policymakers, countering older secularization theories that often overlooked religious influence in public life. The discussion highlights the transition from anecdotal evidence to sophisticated datasets—such as those from the Pew Research Center—while acknowledging persistent gaps in capturing implicit discrimination and the nuanced cultural contexts of faith. A major theme of the interview is the potential for artificial intelligence and "big data" to enhance real-time reporting and move research beyond nationwide aggregates toward more detailed, sub-national analysis. Ultimately, Pinna and Petri emphasize the need for a "new IRFA moment" to update international religious freedom policies in alignment with modern technological advancements and data-driven insights. Prof. Dr. Dennis P. Petri is a political scientist, researcher, and international consultant, with extensive experience in Latin America, Europe, Africa, and the Middle East. He has worked in academic and policy roles for various universities, international NGOs, and multilateral organizations. Currently, Petri is Visiting Professor at the UN mandated University for Peace and Professor in International Relations and Humanities at the Latin American University of Science and Technology of Costa Rica. He also lectures at the Central American Public Administration Institute, the UNESCO mandated Latin American Faculty of Social Sciences (FLACSO), and The Hague University of Applied Sciences. He has been a visiting scholar at the University of Amsterdam (The Netherlands), the Interamerican Center for Social Security Studies, Bar-Ilan University (Israel), and Regent’s Park College, University of Oxford (UK). About Dennis Petri: https://petri.phd/about/Support Crossing Faiths
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194: Franck Zanu
Jan 2601:13:53Tap to summarizeRecently, Crossing Faiths host John Pinna appeared on Franck Zanu's podcast to explore the intricate relationship between religion, tribalism, and politics across the African continent. Zanu argues that faith in Africa is deeply intertwined with tribal identity, which often dictates access to economic resources and political power. The discussion delves into the nuances of religious conflict in regions like Northern Nigeria, suggesting that while it appears as religious persecution to Western observers, it is often driven by deeper issues of socio-economic marginalization and tribal resentment. They critique Western policy frameworks on religious freedom, noting that in Africa, religion frequently serves as a practical necessity for seeking divine intervention in the absence of adequate government infrastructure like healthcare. Furthermore, the conversation touches on the historical impact of colonialism on ethnic homogeneity and warns against foreign military intervention in domestic disputes, advocating instead for neutral, multi-faith dialogue and government-sponsored think tanks to address the root causes of regional tensions. Franck Zanu is the host of the podcast, “Zanu Project Rethink”. He is intense, explosive, analytical and deeply thought provoking. He is a life-coach, inspirational speaker, and human development consultant. Zanu’s approach to working with people is unique. While he is empathetic, intuitive and objective, the most distinctive thing about his approach is the way he challenges you to see the issue in a completely different way. He is successful at turning the issue upside down and turning your perspective inside out so you see things from a brand new perspective, energizing you to action and instant results. He has served on many boards in the US including as Vice Chair of the International Institute of Connecticut, Chair of the Mayor’s Youth Initiative project, and Commissioner of the city of Bridgeport Fair rent commission. He is an award winning Black History speaker at the African American Affairs Commission and Sikorsky Aircraft, both in Connecticut. Additionally, he was awarded the 2012 Most Outstanding Immigrant by the Connecticut Secretary of State.Support Crossing Faiths
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193: Scott Horton Reprise
Jan 501:50:19Tap to summarizeIn this episode of Crossing Faiths, John Pinna resumes his conversation with Scott Horton to examine the historical and contemporary applications of the Monroe Doctrine, tracing its shift from a defensive stance against European colonization to a tool for American imperial dominance in the Western Hemisphere. The dialogue focuses heavily on the complexities of regime change in Venezuela, analyzing the motivations behind US sanctions, the influence of political figures like Marco Rubio, and the interplay between corporate oil interests and geopolitical lobbies. Moving beyond Latin America, Horton offers a critical perspective on NATO expansion and the denial of a Russian sphere of influence in Eastern Europe, which he argues has fueled the conflict in Ukraine. The interview further uncovers the "business of intelligence" by discussing how NGOs and faith-based organizations can serve as covers for government operations, illustrated by a detailed anecdote about a failed coup in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. Finally, the speakers reflect on the legacy of US involvement in Afghanistan and the flaws in established narratives regarding counter-terrorism and global interventionism. Scott Horton is director of the Scott Horton Academy of Foreign Policy and Freedom director of the Libertarian Institute, editorial director of Antiwar.com and host of the Scott Horton Show from ScottHorton.org. He is the author of four books. He has conducted more than 6,000 interviews since 2003. He has recently released The Scott Horton Academy of Foreign Policy and Freedom. Scott lives in Austin, Texas with his wife, Larisa Alexandrovna Horton.Support Crossing Faiths
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192: Scott Horton
Jan 500:45:34Tap to summarizeIn this episode of Crossing Faiths, John Pinna speaks with Scott Horton about the underlying motivations and consequences of American foreign policy in the Middle East and beyond. The discussion explores the influence of neoconservative ideologies on the Iraq War, the political motivations of the Bush administration, and the subsequent "redirection" of support toward various factions in the Syrian civil war. Pinna shares his firsthand experiences working with government-funded organizations during the Arab Spring, while Horton provides a critical analysis of the military-industrial complex and the role of manufactured intelligence in driving international conflicts. Their conversation further examines the complex geopolitical landscape involving Israel, Iran, and the Kurdish regions, highlighting the economic undercurrents of oil trade and currency movement that often dictate regional stability and interventionist strategies. Scott Horton is director of the Scott Horton Academy of Foreign Policy and Freedom director of the Libertarian Institute, editorial director of Antiwar.com and host of the Scott Horton Show from ScottHorton.org. He is the author of four books. He has conducted more than 6,000 interviews since 2003. He has recently released The Scott Horton Academy of Foreign Policy and Freedom. Scott lives in Austin, Texas with his wife, Larisa Alexandrovna Horton.Support Crossing Faiths
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191: Mandana Hendessi
Dec 2900:50:28Tap to summarizeIn this episode of Crossing Faiths, John Pinna speaks with Mandana Hendessi about her career in human rights advocacy and international development across Iraq and Afghanistan, with a particular focus on her novel, The Almond Garden of Kabul. Drawing from her real-life experiences providing legal aid and counseling at the Badam Bagh women's prison, Hendessi explores the systemic oppression of women through the lens of "moral crimes" and the contradictions between national law and conservative judicial interpretations. The interview delves into the harrowing realities of sexual abuse and trafficking within the prison system, while also highlighting the profound sense of sisterhood and resilience found among a diverse group of incarcerated women. Ultimately, the conversation examines themes of trauma, institutionalization, and the complexities of translating Western concepts of mental health and empowerment into the cultural and linguistic nuances of Afghan society. Mandana Hendessi (OBE) is a writer and women's rights advocate whose thirty years in gender equality and humanitarian work have taken her from the corridors of Westminster to the crowded refugee camps of the Middle East and the dimly lit cells of Afghan prisons. These encounters – layered with resilience, grief, and defiance – have given her a rare insight into the human cost of injustice, an insight that continues to infuse her fiction. Lived at the intersection of politics, war, and survival, these experiences shape her writing, which seeks to give voice to those too often silenced.Support Crossing Faiths
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