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Crucible Moments
Hosted by Sequoia Capital · EN
A podcast about the inflection points that shaped some of the most significant companies of our time. Crucible moments are pivotal decisions that determine your trajectory. In Season 2, hear from founders and leaders like Steve Chen of YouTube, Drew Houston of Dropbox, Frank Slootman of ServiceNow and Tony Xu of DoorDash, Steve Huffman of Reddit and more about how they navigated the challenges and opportunities that defined their stories. Hosted by Roelof Botha of Sequoia Capital.
The content of this podcast does not constitute investment advice, an offer to provide investment advisory services or an offer to sell or solicitation of an offer to buy an interest in any investment fund.
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Palo Alto Networks ft Nir Zuk & Nikesh Arora - The Grudge That Transformed Cybersecurity
Dec 400:47:03Summary readyIn the early 2000s, the cybersecurity industry was dominated by incumbents focused on high margins, not innovation. Nir Zuk tells the story of how, frustrated by this stagnant culture, he set out on his own with a radical idea: the Next-Generation Firewall. His vision was to unify dozens of security functions into a single, intelligent platform delivered via cloud—an approach everyone thought was crazy. Palo Alto Networks started as a disruptive startup with Nir sporting a "Check Point Killer" vanity license plate, and grew to dominate cybersecurity. We explore the crucible moments that defined its path: the controversial decision to insist on being a new kind of "firewall" vs. a “firewall helper,” the challenge of scaling a hyper-growth company, and the critical pivot from building everything in-house to current CEO Nikesh Arora’s aggressive acquisition strategy that remade the company for the cloud era. Nir, Nikesh, and the core leadership team offer a masterclass in product conviction, strategic transformation, and the courage to disrupt yourself before the market does it for you. Featuring: Nir Zuk, Nikesh Arora, Lee Klarich, Rajiv Batra, Mark McLaughlin, Jim Goetz, Asheem Chandra Hosted by: Roelof Botha, Sequoia Capital
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Bolt ft. Markus Villig - From Bootstrapping in Estonia to a Global Leader in Mobility
Nov 2000:42:40Summary readyAt 19, Markus Villig borrowed €5,000 from his parents to fix Estonia's broken taxi system. What happened next defied every conventional startup playbook. Markus started by making fleet dispatch software for local taxi companies. But when it became clear they weren’t embracing the on-demand revolution, he pivoted the business to ride-hailing for drivers, competing directly against what had been his core customer. The product took off in Estonia. But when Bolt's first expansion into Western Europe nearly bankrupted the company, Markus and team made another counterintuitive pivot: they built a data model that pointed to African cities no one else was targeting. They launched in Johannesburg remotely with a university student and a credit card. While investors warned against emerging markets, Bolt's data proved them wrong. This episode chronicles Bolt's inflection points to become the number-one ridehailing and delivery app across much of Europe, Africa and the Middle East by treating expansion as "a portfolio of bets" and staying ruthlessly pragmatic about what works. Featuring: Markus Villig, Jevgeni Kabanov, Pavel Karagjaur, Andrew Reed Hosted by: Roelof Botha, Sequoia Capital
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Supercell ft Ilkka Paananen - How an Early Pivot Led to ‘Clash of Clans’ and ‘Brawl Stars’
Nov 600:43:02Summary readyFounder and CEO Ilkka Paananen set out to create a different kind of game company—one where the game development teams would have decision-making power, not upper management. Ilkka recalls the early decision to scrap their first game and the entire cross-platform strategy that had landed them a Series A financing in order to make a counterintuitive pivot and focus exclusively on mobile. The decision launched one of gaming's most remarkable success stories: By obsessing over quality and treating failures as learning opportunities, Supercell created enduring hits like “Clash of Clans,” “Hay Day,” and “Brawl Stars,” and defined a new standard for mobile gaming. But success brought new challenges. By 2023, Supercell had slipped from the top 10 mobile publishers for the first time in a decade. Ilkka reveals how the company reinvented itself yet again to set a record-breaking year in 2024, and discusses Supercell’s future in the AI era. Featuring: Ilkka Paananen, Maya Hoffree, Joost van Dreunen Hosted by: Roelof Botha, Sequoia Capital
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Zipline ft Keller Cliffton - Reinventing Delivery with Instant Drone Transport
Oct 2300:45:55Summary readyIn 2014, Keller Cliffton made an audacious pivot: shut down his robotic toy company and rebuild it as an autonomous drone delivery system for life-saving medical supplies. Investors were skeptical: The team knew nothing about drones, healthcare, or logistics. But they pushed forward anyway. This is the story of Zipline's journey from near-death to delivering blood to remote hospitals in Rwanda, battling volatile weather and regulatory hurdles, and eventually becoming a global leader in autonomous delivery: This year Zipline began delivering household items directly to front doors with its new Platform 2 in the US for the likes of Walmart and Chipotle. From fixing broken launchers at 3 AM before the Rwandan president's visit to winning unprecedented FAA approval, Zipline's founders bet everything—multiple times—on their vision. Their story proves that if you just keep going, even when everyone's written you off, you can build something truly transformational. Host: Roelof Botha, Sequoia Capital Featuring: Keller Cliffton, Keenan Wyrobek, Ryan Oxenhorn, Maggie Jim, Alfred Lin
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Crucible Moments Season 3: Coming October 23
Oct 1600:02:55Summary readyPreviously on Crucible Moments, we explored the inflection points that shaped some of the most significant names in technology. Now, we're returning for a brand new season. Join us as leaders from Stripe, Zipline, Palo Alto Networks, Klarna, Supercell and more share what it's actually like to navigate the make-or-break decisions, early stumbles and leaps that turn scrappy startups into market defining forces. Hosted by: Roelof Botha, Sequoia Capital
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Nubank ft. David Vélez - An Outsider Upends the Brazilian Banking System
Jan 23, 202500:50:04Summary readyWhen Nubank started 10 years ago, a few big banks in Brazil had a stranglehold on the largest economy in Latin America: they controlled nearly all the market share, and imposed some of the highest fees and worst banking terms in the world. David Vélez was an unlikely character to challenge the system: an outsider from Colombia and Costa Rica with a Stanford MBA, David was working at Sequoia with the goal of investing in Latin American companies. When the realization struck that they couldn’t find any companies they wanted to invest in, David set out to start one himself. What followed is a literal David vs. Goliath story of epic proportions. David and co-founders Cristina Junqueira and Edward Wible explain how Nubank survived competitors' attempts to crush them, and became the largest Latin American neobank, with over 100 million customers across three countries.Host: Roelof BothaFeaturing: David Vélez, Cristina Junqueira, Edward Wible, Doug Leone
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Dropbox ft. Drew Houston - How the Cloud Pioneer Reinvented Itself
Jan 9, 202500:50:44Summary readyA scrappy upstart taking on hyperscalers in a category with lots of hand-wavers, Dropbox became the canonical example of Silicon Valley viral growth, adding 50 million users in the first years following their 2008 launch and quickly dominating their category. However, as CEO Drew Houston explains, their path from viral sensation to enduring business was filled with daunting obstacles. As giants released competing products and tried to crush them, Dropbox embarked on a set of strategic acquisitions to expand its product line—but failed to find product-market fit with the new offerings. What do you do when your idea for your second act doesn’t work like you hoped? Drew describes the insights that led them to strategically re-focus on work use cases for their core product, and the other moves that would re-ignite growth and turn the company profitable. In a counterintuitive bet, the cloud innovator would end up migrating off of cloud infrastructure to its own servers in order to be more cost-efficient. This engineering feat, called Magic Pocket, became the stuff of Silicon Valley engineering lore. Drew and engineering leaders Akhil Gupta and James Cowling recount the story of how they pulled it off.Host: Roelof BothaFeaturing: Drew Houston, Arash Ferdowsi, Sujay Jaswa, Akhil Gupta, James Cowling, Bryan Schreier
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LIVE: ServiceNow CEO Bill McDermott on Unlocking Elite Level Execution
Jan 2, 202500:32:20Summary readyEarlier this season we heard the startup story of ServiceNow—from Fred Luddy setting out to reinvent IT workflows as a first-time founder, to Frank Slootman joining as CEO to scale the business to an IPO. Even more remarkable is that ServiceNow has only accelerated as a public company, growing over ten-fold in the last decade. At a recent closed event in Europe, Sequoia partner Pat Grady spoke with ServiceNow’s current CEO Bill McDermott, who took the reins in 2019. This conversation was recorded in September, 2024 when ServiceNow’s market cap was $125B—today that number has grown to $225B. Their conversation sheds light on ServiceNow’s journey to becoming one of the world’s largest software companies, with over $10 billion dollars in annual revenue, and how Bill’s unrelenting focus on elite level execution is key to the company’s continued success.Featuring: Bill McDermott, ServiceNow; Pat Grady, Sequoia Capital
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Robinhood ft. Vlad Tenev - Reinventing Finance for a New Generation
Dec 19, 202400:48:27Summary readyMillions of Americans use their smartphones to invest and manage their finances every day—but before Robinhood started in 2013, finance looked very different. Investing was something for the wealthy, with steep fees charged on every trade, and was done exclusively on computers with arcane trading software. In this episode, co-founder and CEO Vlad Tenev explains why Robinhood set out to democratize access to investing and reinvent it for a new generation, how it overcame immense challenges in that pursuit, and how it reinvented itself amid a market downturn with a holistic suite of customer offerings to mount an historic comeback. Host: Roelof Botha, Sequoia CapitalFeaturing: Vlad Tenev, Micky Malka, Andrew Reed, Jason Warnick
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YouTube ft. Steve Chen - 18 Months That Changed the Internet
Dec 5, 202400:48:44Summary readyThis episode takes us back to the earliest days of YouTube, as the founders explain why it was a longshot that succeeded against all odds. When cofounders Steve Chen, Chad Hurley and Jawed Karim left PayPal to start YouTube, it wasn’t even clear that the nascent broadband infrastructure could support playing video in a browser. In a brief period until its acquisition by Google—from its first incarnation as a video dating site to confronting daunting technical and legal challenges—the early story of YouTube is an underdog tale of scrappy upstarts who ended up changing the world. Host: Roelof Botha, Sequoia CapitalFeaturing: Steve Chen, Jawed Karim, Zahavah Levine, Colin Corbett, Yu Pan
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