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Freak Flag with Kathleen Smith!
Hosted by kathleen smith · EN
Off the cuff conversations with Kathleen Smith, multi-dimensional creative passionista musician, artist, healer, music supervisor and adventurer. Topics include but are not limited to arts and creativity, health & fitness, spirituality, embodiment, snacks, music & the biz, songs, the practice of making stuff (ie "make your art!), books kath is currently enjoying (or writing) and folks kath wants you to know about because they changed her life and maybe you wanna know, too! Guests include industry leaders in the health, wellness, spirituality, music and creativity spaces.
Kath chats with super cool people doing super cool stuff so you can know about them, too!
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🌈 sep 15 show + new music 🎹
Sep 800:01:25Tap to summarizehelloooo my loves -couple of things cookin’ for ya in the near and farther future!* LIVE FROM THE BABE-O-SPHERE - ks sings songs live! 9.15.25, 7p, santa fe* BREAK UP EP - currently cookin’* VOLUPTUOUS RETREAT - May 15 - 18, 2026, santa fe nmall the details below, per usual.loving you & your ferocious heart!xoKSLIVE FROM THE BABE-O-SPHEREMon. Sept. 15, 2025 7 - 930p, $10-20 at the doorSanta Fe, NMI created & run a women’s songwriting collective in Santa Fe, and some of us are playing songs out in the world on Monday Sept 15 at 7p.It’s a lovely house concert series called Casa Fiesta, hosted by a really cool dude named Peter. He does concerts Sundays & Mondays all summer & early fall—you can text the phone number above to be added to his overall invite list.We’re doing songwriters-in-the-round.BYOB if you wish, and you can also bring a dish to share. Cozy Community Vibes, baby!!! There is a regular crew of folks who go to all of these shows, so I’d suggest showing up a little bit early to make sure you get a seat. {You can just show up—no need to text the number beforehand.}Can’t wait to sing you some songs, NM friends!BREAK UP EPA few months ago, I realized I had a handful of break-up songs, nearly ready to go. Mostly from 2011, these songs were hiding in my voice memos until I discovered them this spring while I was digging around, looking for material to bring to my women’s songwriting collective (aka writers’ group). Though the sister record to MEDICINE has been written for a while now (her name is HER MAJESTY, btw), it’s not quite time to make that one. SO!How about a lil’ BREAK UP EP?!Gently into the studio I’ve been tiptoeing.A tiny clutch of songs.Some feelings.And sounds.From my broken {in the past} heart to yours.So far the songs are:sufferingdown for daysthinking of yousomething gone{fool’s gold?}{letting you go}{my favorite part}Those last three in { } brackets are maybes, tbds. Not sure on timing yet, but I’m optimistically gently aiming for Christmas.WILL KEEP YA POSTED!💖VOLUPTUOUS WOMEN’S RETREATMAY 15-18, 2026Santa Fe, NMMARKYOURCALENDARS,I AM LEADING A WOMEN’S RETREAT,BABY!{After a few years off!!!}With my dear sister healer genius goddess Daniella!Get on the list now for all kinds of goodies & info.VOLUPTUOUS: It’s not a size, or a strategy: it’s a sumptuous, scrumptious frequency.Breathwork, creative expression, & sacred sisterhood in the beautiful mountains of northern New Mexico.Gonna. Be. Magic.CAN’T WAIT TO BE VOLUPTUOUS TOGETHER!!!!!❤️🔥3 THINGS* Sam Fender episode of Song Exploder - could. not. stop. crying. life, death, art, influences, the magical ways we affect each other— this episode has it all. I suggest you have a few tissues ready. Or at least listen in your car (like I did) so you can feel free to weep.* EXPANDED WILD HEARTS, healing immersion weekend (i.e. retreat)Sep 12 - 15, 2025, Mammoth, CAMy gal pal Jenna is a brilliant breathwork healer. She holds impeccable space. If I could be everywhere all the time, I’d go to this—fun, sisterhood, nature & healing are *very certainly* to ensue.* THE LIBRARY - Sept. 13 & 14, 9 - 1130a *online*My buddy Michael teaches a really fun online workshop called THE LIBRARY, and he’s running it again this upcoming weekend. It’s a super magical way of accessing the zero-point field of Everything-Everywhere-All-At-Once in your very own way to gain inspiration, information and wisdom. Shawn & I participated in the pilot run in May, and it was SO FUN and SO HELPFUL and SO MAGICAL, I had to let you know about this opportunity to do it yourself!🌍👍🏻 sharing is caring. forward this to a pal & spread the love. 🌸😘www.kathleenmusic.com🔥 🦋 order your MEDICINE on VINYL ❤️🔥 and/or DIGITAL 💖 🌈I LOVE YOU! MAKE YOUR ART! LOVE WHAT U LOVE! WANT WHAT U WANT! SHARE WHAT U CAN!! 💖❤️🔥🔥🌎🦄👑🌊🌸🐍😘 This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit kathleenmusic.substack.com
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we are the cosmos with susan deleo | freak flag episode 17
May 2, 202501:04:24Tap to summarizeFreak Flag is a free publication! If you like the podcast and/or Kathleen’s music, please subscribe below. In these days of algorithmic uncertainty, being on an artist/creator’s mailing list is one of the BEST ways you can support the art you love and enjoy.THANK YOU ! I LOVE YOU ! MAKE YOUR ART!!!💖🌈🦄OOOWEEEE FREAK FRIENDS!!!!*Thrilled* to bring you this super cosmic episode of Freak Flag with Galactic Astrologer Susan Deleo, recorded earlier this year in Feb 2025.We dove deep and got nerdy af on lots of verrrry cosmic stuff—planets, stars, galaxies, birth charts, the holographic nature of reality, past lives, soul journeys, galactic beings and Angels, etc. Susan Deleo is a Galactic Astrologer with a background in music, Transcendental Meditation and experimental filmmaking.After practicing as a Registered Nurse for over 2 decades, she realized the limits of Western medicine and expanded her repertoire to include polarity therapy, Shamanism and Yoga Nidra.She loves to help people live their authentic soul journeys through the lens of astrology and energy healing.No notes this time, folks—join us in our conversational spaceship and let’s hit the STARS!!🌟GET IN SUSAN’S WORLD FOR A FUN, GALACTIC & SUPER VALIDATING TIME:* her site - book a private sesh from anywhere, highly recommend!* her insta - here you can also scope the *magical* gem & wire jewelry she creates and sells at local markets in Albuquerque and via her IG🦄🌎🌌IF YOU LIKE THIS EPISODE, please subscribe & rate in iTunes! ←that’s a link I hope you enjoy today’s Freak Flag episode—that maybe it inspires YOU to embody the cosmos that you ARE, here in this body, on this Earth, to the benefit of us all (and most of all, YOU, who chose this brilliant journey for yourSelf & all of us!). Head to kathleenmusic.substack.com for the entire Freak Flag episode archive. Sign up to be on the list if you’re not already—subscribers get special goodies no one else does!🌍👍🏻 sharing is caring! forward this to a pal & spread the love! 🌸😘🦋 order your MEDICINE on VINYL ❤️🔥 DIGITAL 💖Go to www.kathleenmusic.com to listen to MEDICINE and order your very own limited edition, signed, numbered PINK vinyl—MEDICINE FOR YOUR HEART & FREAK FLAG!🔥 This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit kathleenmusic.substack.com
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be a living prayer with rachael maddox | freak flag episode 16
Jul 24, 202400:59:23Tap to summarizeHELLOOOO MY DARLINGS!!!I am *thrilled* to bring you today’s Freak Flag episode, a conversation with Rachael Maddox, trauma specialist and wealth doula (my term, not hers!) for world-changing visionaries.Rachael Maddox is a Head Witch. Business Alchemist with 13 years experience. Somatic Trauma Specialist who's supported over 1000 people on their post-traumatic growth journeys. 2-time Best-Selling Author. Serial Creative. Mom to a very small rascal. And wife to a real life wizard. She’s turned on by supporting World Changing Witches with world-changing visions cultivate world-changing wealth, so that together, we can birth a more regenerative, just and beautiful world.Our conversation INSPIRED THE ***HECK*** OUTTA ME!!! I showed up to the mic that day a little bit crunchy, a little bit depressed—I mean, THE WORLD RIGHT NOW—and by the end of the hour, I felt aliveness and inspiration return. The beautiful world we all want to create and live and thrive in TRULY IS possible—it is trying to birth through us and our individual and collective lives right here, right now—and talking with Rachael about her body of work and wisdom reminded me of that.We hit on the below points, plus SO MUCH YUM MORE! {For full show notes *with links*, head to this post on substack!}* what is world-changing wealth* the inherited trauma of capitalism and the systems we currently live in* claiming personal responsibility for our own power so that we can part of the liberated, beautiful world we want to live in* a practical somatic practice for updating & healing trauma* mercy inside of accountability* the political polarization we see today is actually a trauma response* being a living prayer for the world we want to live in, by being in community with others who hold the same values and living big* it goes deeper than abundance or scarcity mindsets—it is systemicGET IN RACHAEL’S WORLD* Business Witchery CEO Coven - Rachael's 6-month accelerator for ambitious visionaries, the Business Witchery CEO Coven, begins August 12th, 2024.* Business Witchery: 7 Rituals to Uncensor Your Wildest Wisdom. {this is the program I talked about taking this past spring— transformational!}* UNLEASH YOUR GENIUS with free trainings from Rachael. * Rachael’s Instagram* Stay tuned for the release of her third book, Business Witchery, Halloween 2024!I hope you enjoy today’s Freak Flag episode—that maybe it inspires YOU to be whatever kind of living prayer you desire to be, or reminds you that walking in your very own beauty way makes a difference. To have more conversation around this, head over to my Insta and comment on the post about this episode!Head to kathleenmusic.substack.com for the entire Freak Flag episode archive. Sign up to be on the list if you’re not already—subscribers get special goodies no one else does!🌍👍🏻 sharing is caring! forward this to a pal & spread the love! 🌸😘www.kathleenmusic.com🦋 order your MEDICINE on VINYL ❤️🔥 DIGITAL 💖 This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit kathleenmusic.substack.com
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love, rebellion and cracking open with kathe izzo {the love artist} | freak flag episode 15
Jun 16, 202401:15:02Tap to summarizeKathe Izzo is also known as The Love Artist, in homage to her conceptual performance work and essays focusing on intimacy and love. She is an interdisciplinary intuitive working in diverse environments including deeply personal one-on-one mentorship, psychedelic / noosphere leadership and the metamorphosis of the traditional art world. Izzo is initiator of The MA Platform, a 24/7 continuous chain of femme consciousness praying across borders and around the world.Kathe is a magical punk rock performance art fairy grandmother witch (this is how I see her), and if you’re feeling called to work with her in any way, I *highly* recommend! I have personally spent time in her 6-month High Garden container, and it was just the thing for the moment.Get in Kathe’s World:- her Instagram, The Love Artist- her Substack & newsletter, My Brainiac Amor- High Garden, Kathe’s intimate, magical, 6-month depth support- High Garden FAQ/Q&AAlso mentioned in this episode:- “To Begin With, The Sweet Grass” - poem by Mary Oliver- I Am That WitchGet Freak Flag in your inbox--subscribe today on Substack or wherever you listen. Follow Kathleen on Insta | YouTube | TikTokEmail us with suggestions of episodes you'd like or people you'd like us to interview! kathleenmusic@substack.comI LOVE YOU! MAKE YOUR ART! xxo kathleen This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit kathleenmusic.substack.com
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align to what you love with chela davison | freak flag episode 14
May 10, 202400:57:54Tap to summarizeHello Freak Friends!!! We’ve got another episode of Freak Flag for your ears today. Last April (yes, 2023!), I got to chat with brilliant coach Chela Davison about her path to coaching and her process working with people.I worked with Chela as my coach for most of 2022, and I can personaly say she is a brilliant, effective, and quite *magical* coach. She REALLY really helped me at a moment when I needed someone to hold me and point out some of my blind spots.here’s a bit about Chela: Chela Davison is an Integral Master Coach and Master Certified Coach who works with socially conscious entrepreneurs, creatives, and practitioners to help them align their soul’s purpose with their work in the world. To support clients in doing the necessary inner work to break old patterns and create enlivening new opportunities, she offers coaching, courses and education including Lead your Self, a program and community that helps members to realize their Calling. She is the former President and Lead Teacher of the Integral Coaching Certification Program at Integral Coaching Canada, where she trained and certified hundreds of coaches worldwide. Chela is a writer, speaker and host of the What is Leadership? Podcast. She lives on the unceded territories of the Squamish Nation in British Columbia Canada with her husband, two sons, two dogs and six hilarious chickens. We got super nitty-gritty about her coaching process and the conscious, structured, titrated process of how Chela works with people in her coaching containers.abbreviated show notes below:* the privilege of Chela’s upbringing in a family system that had a teaching of “do what you love, and the money will follow”* gravity as unconditional love * Integral Theory and Integral Coaching and its lineage* working with people’s unconscious patterns so that they have choice in transformation* some of my experience working with Chela and how transformative it was * resistance as a normal part of the change process, and finding ways to relate to it as a “challenging but welcome friend”* the way she works with clients and deals with the delicate and nuanced space of context: things like systemic influence, cultural influence, inherited influence, as well as someone’s personal operating system, their resistance & ways of dealing, limitations they have or perceive that might not be so written in stone* Chela’s beef with mindset language.* “if you can see your limiting beliefs, those are not your limiting beliefs.”* Chela’s ability to to see things in others they can’t, and using that to help them choose their path based on what they love to do and are passionate about.GET IN CHELA’S WORLD!- her website- her newest offering, The Generosity Experiment - her podcast “What Is Leadership” on iTunes- her Substack “A Little Bit Much” (free with an option to pay) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit kathleenmusic.substack.com
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follow the joy with rob bell | freak flag episode 13
Nov 17, 202301:12:27Tap to summarizeFreak Friends, it is my super pleasure to bring you an episode with the inimitable ROB BELL (!) today!We chatted a few days after my album MEDICINE came out, and we had a grand ol’ time. He recently released a new book called WHERE’D YOU PARK YOUR SPACESHIP & we chatted it up about following the thread of joy and inspiration, even when it leads to unknown places.Rob Bell is the New York Times Bestselling author of fourteen books and plays which have been translated into 25 languages. His latest is an intergalactic tale of love, loss, and bread called WHERE'D YOU PARK YOUR SPACESHIP? His visual art can be seen on Instagram @realrobbell, his band is HUMANS ON THE FLOOR, and his podcast is called The RobCast. Rob lives with his family in Ojai, California. No show notes this time—just put this baby on and enjoy the ride!Get in Rob’s world below:* insta* web - you can buy all the things here, including WHERE’D YOU PARK YOUR SPACESHIP, printed or audio! *10/10 recommend!!!** the robcast - the podcast. episode 301 “and then all of them passed” (itunes link) is one of my perennial faves.🌈🦄✨IF YOU LIKE THIS EPISODE, please subscribe & rate in iTunes!Go to www.kathleenmusic.com to listen to MEDICINE and order your very own limited edition, signed, numbered PINK vinyl (only available until Dec. 1, 2023)! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit kathleenmusic.substack.com
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affirmations : the flower essences of the word world | freak flag episode 12
Oct 8, 202300:25:51Tap to summarizehey hey PALS!new episode comin’ atcha. I have literally been daydreaming about this episode since the very inception of Freak Flag in Jan. 2022, and I decided NOW IS THE MOMENT. “DO IT NOW—YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN THE WORLD WILL EN”{It was better as a graphic, but I have the screenshot on my phone and my phone is not with me. C’est la vie—you get the idea.}No guest, no notes, no intro, no outro—I am going rogue & recording a lil’ Kath Chat.TOPLINE: Affirmations are the flower essences of the word world. Gentle and strong. Subtle until they’re not. Kind of like all that “think it and it shall be” stuff but EVEN SOFTER. No need to white knuckle this stuff, my dear. You can just have a handy lil’ phrase to pick up a few times a day, and faster than you might imagine, things will shift.love ya. make ur art. subscribe and/or share with a pal if you’re feelin’ it. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit kathleenmusic.substack.com
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follow your heart with kathleen smith | freak flag episode 11
Jul 7, 202300:46:32Tap to summarizeokay folks, this episode is a LIL DIFFERENT.instead of ME (your local Kath) interviewing someone, this time, SOMEONE INTERVIEWED ME! That someone is our pal Michael Kass (remember him from episode 3?!). On a Tuesday in March 2023, Michael sat in my blue velvet chair, and I sat on the green velvet couch (the guest spot!), and he asked me q’s.ITWASFUUUUUUNNNNNNN.there is really something about the way other people see us, which is different from how we see ourselves!here’s my bio, which he read to me. I mean, you probably know about me, but hey, why not: Kathleen Smith is a singer, songwriter and producer whose music has been seen and heard on the radio, in TV and film, and by audiences around the US when she comes through on tour. She is also a music supervisor for award-winning TV shows and films on Netflix, Hulu, and Showtime, as well as the popular music podcast (and Netflix TV show) Song Exploder. For her most recent record, Medicine, out on 10.10.23, Kathleen moved from Los Angeles to the woods of New Mexico to write and record in an old barn, teaching herself to engineer, and producing, playing and singing nearly the entire record all by herself. Her whole ethos is to create work from her heart, in the hopes that it might help people connect to their own hearts and inspire them to make their own art. She lives in Santa Fe, NM with her husband, Shawn, and her white piano, Princess, and she occasionally interviews “cool fuckin’ people doing cool fuckin’ shit” for her own podcast, Freak Flag. MK asked me many good questions, and we could have gone on for hours, but he is really good at 3D life and time, so we clocked in at about 45m. Normally show notes would go here, but here’s just the quickest list this time:* it all started at age 4, with Barbra Streisand & Madonna records * reading an article in Harper’s Bazaar at age nine & then not getting into honor choir changed everything for a minute * the experience of writing the first song at age 19 * cosmic architecture & the need for ritual to plug us back into the remembrance of our place in it all* plus more! feelings! stories! okay, you’re already in my world {i think!}, but, hey, we’re going same format as usual for this, so here it is in case you want it:* your local Kath’s Insta* UTUBE - ya know, the videos & stuff.* Love Blast list (which is also the Freak Flag list) - ie mailing list, which is the literal FIRST & BEST place to learn what is going on in the Kathleeniverse.Thanks, as always, to KYLE for editing & mixing this episode!! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit kathleenmusic.substack.com
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you're either growing or you're dying with dr. giulia isetti | freak flag episode 10
Apr 22, 202301:04:22Tap to summarizeHELLO FREAK FRENZZZZZZZ!!!!!!I’m happy to report we have yet another yumsville episode for your ears today. My pal G (aka Giulia Isetti, PhD) was in town visiting from Chicago in February, and we chatted about all kinds of stuff here at the Clubhouse. There was some construction happening in the building, so don’t mind any strange ambient sounds you might hear—it’s not perfectly sound-insulated at the Kath Clubhouse! About Giulia: Giulia Isetti, PhD, is a level two USA weightlifting coach, and strength & conditioning specialist currently based in Chicago, Illinois at her gym, Coaching by G. She has helped hundreds of clients improve their lives with her unique methodology that blends fitness and nutrition with spirituality and inner inquiry. Julia is an advocate for honoring the body and its limits, and believes strongly in the wisdom and intuition of the body. As an expert in both the science and the mechanics behind physical fitness, she also understands that spiritual transformation is an essential part of achieving wellness goals. As the founder of Inside Out Fitness, Julia has created a unique approach to health and wellbeing which blends body, mind, and spirit. Through her guidance, people are able to not only reach their physical goals, but also make a deep personal inquiry to uncover true and lasting change from within.Per usual, we got INTO IT! In no particular order, here’s some of what we got into:- G unpacks her sayings “muscle is the currency of movement” and “movement is the currency of life”- there is a biological basis for why it can be difficult to get into a workout routine at first: the body is the ultimate conservative—it will not make enzymes that are not being used, and it will not stretch its metabolism beyond what is required to sustain its life while also conserving resources - like everything, if you don’t ask for what you want, you won’t get it; and further, if you don’t *know* what you want, you can’t even ask for it- the importance of healthy muscle tissue, and its effect on sustainability within the body and protecting your body from injury for the long-term- why weight-lifting and strength training — concentric movement — is the *only* method to build muscle and keep muscles, bones and tendons strong- even just stomping your feet regularly on the ground with some force can help reverse osteoporosis- the biological basis for the idea that if you’re not growing & transforming, you are actually, literally dying- the spiritual and practical basis of attaching your “why” to any goal, intention or desired outcome- Jerry Colonna’s question: “How have I been complicit in creating the conditions I say I don’t want?” {you can check his interview on the Tim Ferris podcast here}- most good things are cumulative, rather than one-shot, quick fix situations- muscle is not built at the gym—it’s built in rest and recovery. the saying “don’t just do something, sit there” is by George Mumford, meditation coach to Michael Jordan & Kobe Bryant.ABOUT GIULIA’S UPCOMING PROGRAM, Fit From Within:Fit From Within is a 4-week program that teaches you a sustainable way to be in your body—a way that is true to you and makes you feel alive from the inside out. You will learn to set realistic goals, create an actionable plan, and stay motivated to reach your health and fitness goals. GET IN G’S WORLD:- her Instagram- Fit From Within program begins May 1, 2023. You can get coaching from G, from anywhere you live in the world!- Coaching by G - If you’re in Chicago, you can literally work out with G!! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit kathleenmusic.substack.com
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you can be brave with dr. christine conelea | freak flag episode 9
Apr 14, 202301:11:51Tap to summarizeThis is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit kathleenmusic.substack.com
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