okay folks, this episode is a LIL DIFFERENT.

instead of ME (your local Kath) interviewing someone, this time, SOMEONE INTERVIEWED ME! That someone is our pal Michael Kass (remember him from episode 3?!). On a Tuesday in March 2023, Michael sat in my blue velvet chair, and I sat on the green velvet couch (the guest spot!), and he asked me q’s.

WAS

FUUUUUUNNNNNNN.

there is really something about the way other people see us, which is different from how we see ourselves!

here’s my bio, which he read to me. I mean, you probably know about me, but hey, why not: Kathleen Smith is a singer, songwriter and producer whose music has been seen and heard on the radio, in TV and film, and by audiences around the US when she comes through on tour. She is also a music supervisor for award-winning TV shows and films on Netflix, Hulu, and Showtime, as well as the popular music podcast (and Netflix TV show) Song Exploder. For her most recent record, Medicine, out on 10.10.23, Kathleen moved from Los Angeles to the woods of New Mexico to write and record in an old barn, teaching herself to engineer, and producing, playing and singing nearly the entire record all by herself. Her whole ethos is to create work from her heart, in the hopes that it might help people connect to their own hearts and inspire them to make their own art. She lives in Santa Fe, NM with her husband, Shawn, and her white piano, Princess, and she occasionally interviews “cool fuckin’ people doing cool fuckin’ shit” for her own podcast, Freak Flag.

MK asked me many good questions, and we could have gone on for hours, but he is really good at 3D life and time, so we clocked in at about 45m.

Normally show notes would go here, but here’s just the quickest list this time:* it all started at age 4, with Barbra Streisand & Madonna records * reading an article in Harper’s Bazaar at age nine & then not getting into honor choir changed everything for a minute * the experience of writing the first song at age 19 * cosmic architecture & the need for ritual to plug us back into the remembrance of our place in it all* plus more! feelings! stories!

okay, you’re already in my world {i think!}, but, hey, we’re going same format as usual for this, so here it is in case you want it:

* your local Kath’s Insta

* UTUBE - ya know, the videos & stuff.

* Love Blast list (which is also the Freak Flag list) - ie mailing list, which is the literal FIRST & BEST place to learn what is going on in the Kathleeniverse.

Thanks, as always, to KYLE for editing & mixing this episode!!

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