Haunted Cosmos – Episode Summary
Episode Title: Police Officer Confronts Demons, Witches, and Poltergeists!
Date: October 29, 2025
Hosts: Ben Garrett (A), Brian Sauvé (B)
Guest: Ray ("C"), Police Officer and Musician

Episode Overview

In this chilling installment of Haunted Cosmos, Ben and Brian sit down with Ray, a police officer and detective who shares his firsthand accounts of supernatural encounters on the job. From haunted Mormon churches to a witch's house possessed by a shadowy entity, Ray’s stories push the boundaries between the natural and spiritual. The episode explores the intersection of law enforcement and the paranormal, questions about the prevalence of occult practices, and the dark consequences of dabbling with the unknown.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Law Enforcement and the Unexplainable

• Frequent Exposure to Strange Phenomena:
  • Law enforcement officers often encounter bizarre situations beyond drugs and crime. Ray notes, “Some of the behaviors, people changing voices, kind of going, going nuts, that kind of thing. But yeah, a couple of the, the encounters that really stand out…” [11:17]
  • Brian’s theory: “Law enforcement constantly has to interact with like, the most difficult population of any area. Constantly? Yeah, all the time.” [02:13]

2. Poltergeist Activity in Mormon Churches

• Story 1 – Apparent Haunted Church:

  • Maintenance personnel repeatedly call in suspected break-ins, doors slamming, and noises—yet no one is ever found inside after thorough police sweeps.
  • Memorable moment: “Building's empty. So that, I mean, like, that kind of stuff, I think happens pretty frequently.” [12:12]

• Story 2 – Persistent Intruder or Something Else?

  • Recurring incidents where tools vanish, and unidentified shapes dart around corners.
  • Surreal tool displacement: “I picked it up and I was like, oh, are you guys doing work in this room? He's like, no, we don't come in here. …It came out of my truck, dude.” [16:21]
  • The police check attics, tunnels, and roofs—find nothing.
  • Ray’s partner, a non-Christian, concludes: “It's demons.” Ray agrees: “It is.” [20:15]

3. The Witch’s House and the Shadow Man

• The Call:

  • Ray is dispatched to check on a woman reportedly in distress, possibly on drugs, in a remote house with no footprints in the newly fallen snow.
  • Creepiness escalates when the woman refuses to leave, whispering: "He's here right now." [25:55]
  • Ray discovers a room decorated with occult paraphernalia—pentagrams, spellbooks, bones, and candles. [28:21]

• The Haunting:

  • The woman insists a shadow man has been tormenting her for days, standing in corners and whispering.
  • Direct quote: “I don't know what he looks like. He just stands in the shadows and whispers to me.” [29:44]

• Aftermath:

  • Police, lacking evidence of a crime or medical emergency, can’t remove her from the home.
  • Ray returns to the house two years later for a violent assault: “He almost killed her. …It was the same people living in that house.” [30:39]

4. Occult Practices in Everyday Life

• Proliferation of Witchcraft:

  • Hosts and Ray discuss the growing normalization of crystals, charms, tarot, and folk magic.
  • Ray: “I can't tell you how many houses I go into now where, like, you're walking up to the door and …there's a little stuff taped up.” [37:10]
  • Commentary on how “white magic” practices often deteriorate into darker forms.

• Demons & Drugs:

  • The team acknowledges the frequent overlap but rejects purely materialist explanations.
  • Brian: “The idea that because drugs are involved, there is no other layer…What a huge, huge lie.” [41:37]
  • Ben adds: “The DMT stuff has convinced me…that is absolutely a bogus thing to think so.” [41:44]

5. Spiritual Danger and Christian Response

• Opening Doors:

  • Consensus: seeking occult power invites spiritual evil. “You're asking for it. And I think it doesn't matter how you ask for it. …it's probably gonna start happening.” – Ray [35:52]
  • Ben references historic syncretism and how "all magic is black magic." [38:23]

• The Need for Discernment:

  • Stories of witches being spiritually disrupted by the presence of Christians. [39:38]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Cop Humor in Evidence Handling:

  • Ray explains their evidence kit acronym: “Urban Evidence Recovery Management operations module.” (Your MOM) [06:15]
  • “So over the air, you know. Hey, where’s your mom? Who’s got your mom? Your mom’s in your truck…” – Ray, Ben & Brian riff hilariously [06:25]

• On the Paranormal in Police Work:

  • “Is it drugs, is it demons? I don’t know, probably both, right?” – Ray [11:06]
  • “It is one of the freakiest jobs—to be just like...the last guy there.” – Brian, on being a church janitor [12:27]

• On Witchcraft’s Consequences:

  • “He just stands in the shadows and whispers to me.” – The woman, as recounted by Ray [29:44]
  • “You close the door on the woman and her demon.” – Brian [30:36]
  • “When you open the door to them in your life, …the next thing you know, they are there. And they won’t leave.” – Brian [35:02]

• On Dismissing the Spiritual:

  • “People a lot of times dismiss things as just drugs. …What a huge, huge lie.” – Brian [41:37]

Timestamps for Major Segments

• Intro & Ray’s Background – 00:49–05:16
• Cop Humor / “Your MOM” Evidence Module – 05:55–06:43
• Firsthand Accounts of Strange Church Calls – 11:06–20:34
• The Shadow Man Witch House Encounter – 22:43–31:03
• Occult Practices in the US Today – 37:10–41:44
• Closing Thoughts & the Danger of Spiritual Naivety – 41:12–43:01

Tone and Atmosphere

The conversation is candid, sometimes humorous but deeply unsettling, matching the "graveyard shift" theme. The hosts balance wisecracks (“Are you the Mothman?” [03:27]), skepticism, and genuine unease, while Ray’s cop perspective grounds the stories in unnerving realism.

Takeaways

• Law enforcement regularly encounters unexplained and potentially supernatural events—particularly where spiritual danger meets social dysfunction.
• Secular tools are insufficient for many spiritual dangers; the rise in folk magic and witchcraft is both historic and present-day reality.
• Christian discernment and prayer are vital, and dabbling with the occult—no matter the supposed “color” of magic—has grave consequences.

Quote of the Episode

“You're asking for it. And I think it doesn't matter how you ask for it. …it's probably gonna start happening.” – Ray [35:52]

“When you open the door to them in your life, …the next thing you know, they are there. And they won’t leave.” – Brian [35:02]

Further Engagement

• Listeners are encouraged to send in their own stories to be featured in future graveyard shift episodes.
• The episode closes with a call to pray for law enforcement officers like Ray, and reminders to check out his band, Out of the Graves.

For those who haven’t listened: This episode offers an engrossing blend of dark humor, scary stories, and thoughtful commentary on spiritual reality lurking beneath everyday life—especially from those who police the thin places between the normal and the uncanny.