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Lunch with Jamie
Hosted by Jamie Patricof · EN
Lunch isn't just the second meal of the day. It's a time for congregating and conversing. Film producer Jamie Patricof is doing just that with his podcast series, Lunch with Jamie. Join Jamie and as he sits with thought leaders to discuss politics, current events, food, culture, sports and more. To access more interesting conversations with thought leaders, and to attend future live and virtual events, subscribe to the paid tier on https://www.jamieslist.com/upgrade. For more food, politics, and culture thoughts, sign up for the Jamie's List newsletter at www.jamieslist.com.
Produced by Michaela Sullivan
Cover art by Young Professionals, LLC
Post-production by Scalespeak Media
Opening theme "Circle of Success" by Maker
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The CEO of The Atlantic on Signalgate, The White House, and the Future of AI
Feb 1201:03:25Tap to summarizeIn this episode of Lunch w/ Jamie, Jamie sits down with Nicholas Thompson, CEO of The Atlantic and former Editor-in-Chief of WIRED, for a wide-ranging conversation on journalism, AI, media economics, and the future of truth in a rapidly changing world. They unpack one of the biggest moments in modern media — SignalGate — including how the White House responded, the legal risks involved, and what it was like inside The Atlantic as the story broke. Nicholas also explains how The Atlantic went from losing money to becoming one of the most profitable and influential publications in the world, sharing insights on subscriptions, paywalls, and why chasing video and podcasts too early nearly sank legacy media. The conversation goes deep on artificial intelligence: how AI will reshape journalism, healthcare, education, and elections, why Google may be winning the AI arms race, and what skills matter most for young people entering the workforce today. Nicholas also opens up about his book The Running Ground, surviving cancer, post-traumatic growth, and how running has shaped his life, leadership, and mindset. Topics covered include: - SignalGate and press freedom in the modern era - The Atlantic’s business turnaround and media strategy - AI’s impact on journalism, education, healthcare, and democracy - Deepfakes, misinformation, and the future of trust - Career advice for the next generation in an AI-driven world - Running, resilience, and personal growth If you’re interested in media, technology, AI, leadership, or the future of information, this episode offers rare, behind-the-scenes insight from one of the most thoughtful voices in modern journalism. Only members of Jamie's List get to join me on zoom to get exclusive access during these conversations. You can apply here - https://www.jamieslist.com/upgrade
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The CEO of The Atlantic on Signalgate, The White House, and the Future of AI
Feb 1201:03:25Summary readyIn this episode of Lunch w/ Jamie, Jamie sits down with Nicholas Thompson, CEO of The Atlantic and former Editor-in-Chief of WIRED, for a wide-ranging conversation on journalism, AI, media economics, and the future of truth in a rapidly changing world.They unpack one of the biggest moments in modern media — SignalGate — including how the White House responded, the legal risks involved, and what it was like inside The Atlantic as the story broke. Nicholas also explains how The Atlantic went from losing money to becoming one of the most profitable and influential publications in the world, sharing insights on subscriptions, paywalls, and why chasing video and podcasts too early nearly sank legacy media.The conversation goes deep on artificial intelligence: how AI will reshape journalism, healthcare, education, and elections, why Google may be winning the AI arms race, and what skills matter most for young people entering the workforce today. Nicholas also opens up about his book The Running Ground, surviving cancer, post-traumatic growth, and how running has shaped his life, leadership, and mindset.Topics covered include:- SignalGate and press freedom in the modern era- The Atlantic’s business turnaround and media strategy- AI’s impact on journalism, education, healthcare, and democracy- Deepfakes, misinformation, and the future of trust- Career advice for the next generation in an AI-driven world- Running, resilience, and personal growthIf you’re interested in media, technology, AI, leadership, or the future of information, this episode offers rare, behind-the-scenes insight from one of the most thoughtful voices in modern journalism.Only members of Jamie's List get to join me on zoom to get exclusive access during these conversations. You can apply here - https://www.jamieslist.com/upgrade
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Scott Galloway on Resist & Unsubscribe: The Most Effective Form of Protest
Feb 500:29:35Tap to summarizeIn this episode of Lunch with Jamie, Jamie Patricof sits down with Scott Galloway to break down his powerful “Resist & Unsubscribe” movement—a form of protest designed to hit where it actually hurts: money, attention, and corporate influence. Scott explains why unsubscribing from products, platforms, streaming services, banks, and brands you no longer align with may be more effective than outrage or performative activism. From the attention economy to corporate accountability, this conversation explores how economic pressure can drive real change. Jamie and Scott also discuss: - Why “Resist & Unsubscribe” is one of the smartest protest strategies today - How consumer dollars shape politics, media, and power - The challenge of letting go of conveniences we think we can’t live without - Privilege, responsibility, and doing what you can instead of doing nothing - Why economic protest may outlast outrage cycles If you’re feeling overwhelmed, frustrated, or unsure how to take meaningful action, this episode offers a clear, practical framework for reclaiming your agency—one unsubscribe at a time. 👉 Learn more about the movement and take action today - https://www.resistandunsubscribe.com/ Only members of Jamie's List get to join me on zoom to get exclusive access during these conversations. You can apply here - https://www.jamieslist.com/upgrade Topics: Scott Galloway, Resist and Unsubscribe, economic protest, consumer activism, attention economy, corporate accountability, politics and money, media influence, modern protest strategies, unsubscribing movement, social change.
Transcribe →Scott Galloway on Resist & Unsubscribe: The Most Effective Form of Protest
Feb 500:29:35Summary readyIn this episode of Lunch with Jamie, Jamie Patricof sits down with Scott Galloway to break down his powerful “Resist & Unsubscribe” movement—a form of protest designed to hit where it actually hurts: money, attention, and corporate influence.Scott explains why unsubscribing from products, platforms, streaming services, banks, and brands you no longer align with may be more effective than outrage or performative activism. From the attention economy to corporate accountability, this conversation explores how economic pressure can drive real change.Jamie and Scott also discuss:- Why “Resist & Unsubscribe” is one of the smartest protest strategies today- How consumer dollars shape politics, media, and power- The challenge of letting go of conveniences we think we can’t live without- Privilege, responsibility, and doing what you can instead of doing nothing- Why economic protest may outlast outrage cyclesIf you’re feeling overwhelmed, frustrated, or unsure how to take meaningful action, this episode offers a clear, practical framework for reclaiming your agency—one unsubscribe at a time.👉 Learn more about the movement and take action today - https://www.resistandunsubscribe.com/Only members of Jamie's List get to join me on zoom to get exclusive access during these conversations. You can apply here - https://www.jamieslist.com/upgradeTopics: Scott Galloway, Resist and Unsubscribe, economic protest, consumer activism, attention economy, corporate accountability, politics and money, media influence, modern protest strategies, unsubscribing movement, social change.
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Richard Haass on Trump, NATO, and the Greenland Crisis
Jan 2201:06:00Tap to summarizeWhat happens when the global system that’s kept relative peace for 80 years begins to unravel? In this episode, Jamie sits down with Richard Haass, one of the most respected voices in American foreign policy, to unpack why the post-World War II world order may be over — and why there’s “zero chance” of going back to the way things were. They discuss: - Why Richard Haass believes Trump ended an 80-year era - The real meaning behind Trump’s comments on Greenland - Whether Europe could “call Trump’s bluff” - NATO, alliances, and the collapse of predictability - Ukraine, Russia, Iran, and rising global instability - Why trust — once broken — doesn’t reset after elections - What comes after the U.S.-led world order This is a clear, sober conversation about power, alliances, democracy, and why the world feels more unstable than it has in decades. If you’re trying to understand what actually changed — and why it matters — this conversation is essential listening. Only members of Jamie's List get to join me on zoom to get exclusive access during these conversations. You can apply here - https://www.jamieslist.com/upgrade
Transcribe →Richard Haass on Trump, NATO, and the Greenland Crisis
Jan 2201:06:00Summary readyWhat happens when the global system that’s kept relative peace for 80 years begins to unravel?In this episode, Jamie sits down with Richard Haass, one of the most respected voices in American foreign policy, to unpack why the post-World War II world order may be over — and why there’s “zero chance” of going back to the way things were.They discuss:- Why Richard Haass believes Trump ended an 80-year era- The real meaning behind Trump’s comments on Greenland- Whether Europe could “call Trump’s bluff”- NATO, alliances, and the collapse of predictability- Ukraine, Russia, Iran, and rising global instability- Why trust — once broken — doesn’t reset after elections- What comes after the U.S.-led world orderThis is a clear, sober conversation about power, alliances, democracy, and why the world feels more unstable than it has in decades.If you’re trying to understand what actually changed — and why it matters — this conversation is essential listening.Only members of Jamie's List get to join me on zoom to get exclusive access during these conversations. You can apply here - https://www.jamieslist.com/upgrade
SummaryThe Opposite of Poverty Is Justice — Bryan Stevenson on America’s Moral Reckoning
Jan 1501:15:21Summary readyThis week we are re-releasing our conversation with Bryan Stevenson from 2020. Bryan Stevenson is the founder of the Equal Justice Initiative and one of the most influential voices on justice, race, and moral reckoning in America today.Stevenson traces his personal journey from growing up in the Jim Crow South to defending individuals on death row, unpacking how America’s legal system has long treated people “better if you’re rich and guilty than if you’re poor and innocent.” He explains why true justice requires more than laws—it requires truth-telling, proximity to suffering, narrative change, hope, and the courage to do uncomfortable things.This conversation explores:Why America has never fully confronted the legacy of slavery, lynching, segregation, and racial terrorHow storytelling, film, and culture shape — and can repair — our collective moral narrativeThe difference between policy fixes and moral repairWhy hopelessness is the enemy of justiceWhat real accountability and repair could look like in AmericaThe role creators, artists, and leaders play in shaping the future of justiceStevenson also shares unforgettable personal stories—from confronting racial humiliation in courtrooms to moments of unexpected reconciliation at lynching sites—that illuminate what justice looks like when truth is finally acknowledged.This is not a conversation about politics.It’s a conversation about moral responsibility, historical truth, and the future we are choosing to build.If you care about justice, storytelling, leadership, or the soul of America—this is an essential listen.Only members of Jamie's List get to join me on zoom to get exclusive access during these conversations. You can apply here - https://www.jamieslist.com/upgrade
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The Opposite of Poverty Is Justice — Bryan Stevenson on America’s Moral Reckoning
Jan 1501:15:21Tap to summarizeThis week we are re-releasing our conversation with Bryan Stevenson from 2020. Bryan Stevenson is the founder of the Equal Justice Initiative and one of the most influential voices on justice, race, and moral reckoning in America today. Stevenson traces his personal journey from growing up in the Jim Crow South to defending individuals on death row, unpacking how America’s legal system has long treated people “better if you’re rich and guilty than if you’re poor and innocent.” He explains why true justice requires more than laws—it requires truth-telling, proximity to suffering, narrative change, hope, and the courage to do uncomfortable things. This conversation explores: Why America has never fully confronted the legacy of slavery, lynching, segregation, and racial terror How storytelling, film, and culture shape — and can repair — our collective moral narrative The difference between policy fixes and moral repair Why hopelessness is the enemy of justice What real accountability and repair could look like in America The role creators, artists, and leaders play in shaping the future of justice Stevenson also shares unforgettable personal stories—from confronting racial humiliation in courtrooms to moments of unexpected reconciliation at lynching sites—that illuminate what justice looks like when truth is finally acknowledged. This is not a conversation about politics. It’s a conversation about moral responsibility, historical truth, and the future we are choosing to build. If you care about justice, storytelling, leadership, or the soul of America—this is an essential listen. Only members of Jamie's List get to join me on zoom to get exclusive access during these conversations. You can apply here - https://www.jamieslist.com/upgrade
Transcribe →Anthony Scaramucci on His 11 Days in the Trump White House
Jan 801:05:57Summary readyIn this episode from December 2025, Jamie Patricof sits down with Anthony Scaramucci for a wide-ranging, unfiltered conversation about power, politics, and personal reckoning. Scaramucci reflects on his infamous 11-day stint as White House Communications Director under Donald Trump, tracing his journey from Wall Street to the center of American politics — and the lessons learned from ambition, ego, and loyalty.The discussion explores Scaramucci’s long history within the Republican Party, his role in the 2016 Trump campaign, and why he ultimately broke with Trump publicly. They dive into themes of political identity, Trumpism, media outrage, cancel culture, money in politics, and the growing divide in American democracy. Scaramucci also shares insights on populism, gerrymandering, social media radicalization, and why he believes the U.S. is approaching a critical moment of political reckoning.Later in the conversation, Scaramucci addresses the crisis facing young men in America, drawing from his work on the Lost Boys podcast, and discusses leadership, accountability, and what meaningful reform could look like heading into 2026 and 2028.This episode offers a rare insider perspective on the Trump White House, modern American politics, and the personal cost of power — from someone who lived it.Only members of Jamie's List get to join me on zoom to get exclusive access during these conversations. You can apply here - https://www.jamieslist.com/upgrade
SummaryThis Isn’t Normal: Senator Mark Kelly on Gun Violence in America
Dec 1800:45:52Summary readyIn the wake of the Brown University shooting, Senator Mark Kelly joins the conversation to address the reality of gun violence in America and why these tragedies have become so common.Drawing from personal experience—including the 2011 shooting of his wife, former Congresswoman Gabby Giffords—Senator Kelly explains how mass shootings, school shootings, and everyday gun violence continue to traumatize communities across the United States. He discusses why America stands out globally for gun violence, the long-term psychological impact on young people, and what meaningful gun reform could look like moving forward.This episode explores why gun violence has become normalized in American life, the policy failures that allow it to persist, and what accountability and action could change the trajectory.This is not a partisan debate—it’s a conversation about public safety, children’s lives, and whether the United States is willing to confront a crisis that affects everyone.Only members of Jamie's List get to join me on zoom to get exclusive access during these conversations. You can apply here - https://www.jamieslist.com/membership
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