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Mayim Bialik
Bialik and I'm Jonathan Cohen.
Jonathan Cohen
And welcome to part two of our conversation with Daryl Anka, a man born in Canada but raised in California who for 41 years has been channeling information from an extraterrestrial hybrid named Bashar. In part one of our conversation, we spoke about how he came to realize that he could channel what who Bashar is and what parallel reality he comes from, as well as the things that we will learn in the next two years about extraterrestrials on this planet. Please make sure to listen to part one of our conversation and in part two we're going to talk more about phases of contact, what disclosure will look like, how to use creativity as a spiritual connection, and what does it mean that we all have a spirit team made of guardian angels. Daryl's going to explain everything that he knows from both communication through Bashar as well as more about his experience as the channeler. Please enjoy part two of our conversation with Daryl Anka. Break it down Here's a funny question Does Bashar have a sense of humor?
Daryl Anka
Oh, absolutely, Constantly. That's one of the things people comment on the most, is that he has a very wry sense of humor.
Jonathan Cohen
I've seen some of the, you know, the videos. There's a very specific countenance that you take on. It definitely. It doesn't seem like you. It's a. It's a different, you know, countenance.
Daryl Anka
Yeah.
Jonathan Cohen
It's a different speech cadence. And, you know, it's very, very. It's very interesting. I'm curious if you can tell us a little bit about kind of what's the longest that you spend in that space? Is it exhausting? Like, what does it feel like either emotionally or somatically? Like, what are you aware of when you're channeling?
Daryl Anka
In the beginning, it was tough to take. I'd say, for the first two years, every time I did it, I would be exhausted. Afterward, once I started sort of letting go of anything that was sort of in the way of trusting it and just getting, you know, old ideas out and stuff like that, then it started energizing me. So now it energizes me. I'm left with that. The longest stint I think I ever channeled was about five hours. Now it's on average, 90 minutes to two hours.
Jonathan Cohen
That's a long time, though, to be in that.
Daryl Anka
It doesn't feel like that, though, to me. It feels like maybe it's been 20 minutes.
Mayim Bialik
I'm curious about the exhaustion part. Is it because you were nervous about what would be happening?
Daryl Anka
No. Too much energy. Not used to the energy level.
Mayim Bialik
Not used to the energy.
Jonathan Cohen
So your brain is operating in a different state, like. Yes.
Mayim Bialik
Have you ever thought, like, I'm not sure what to say or if I should.
Daryl Anka
I'm not saying anything. I never plan. No. Yeah. It's like. It's like you're driving a car, but now you shift over to the passenger side and somebody else is driving. You can look out the window and pay attention to other things, but I'm
Mayim Bialik
always terrified that the person driving isn't going to do a good job.
Daryl Anka
Oh, well, I know he's going to do a good job. I don't have to worry about his driving record. He's been doing this for 41 years now with me, so.
Mayim Bialik
But at the beginning, was there ever a time where you were a little bit of a nervous passenger or just kind of?
Daryl Anka
No, because I already knew that was what the research was about. I already knew it could be a helpful thing.
Jonathan Cohen
And you remember everything?
Daryl Anka
I remember snippets of concepts that I need. I don't hear the words. That fades like a dream. So I'm aware there's something happening.
Jonathan Cohen
You're in a different brain state.
Daryl Anka
Literally, I'm aware there's something happening. But you know how, like, you know, if you're, like, having a really strong daydream and somebody walks in the room and goes, mayim, Mayim. And you just, like, what? You know, you don't hear it for, like, the third time they call you. It's like that. The conversation might as well be happening in another room.
Jonathan Cohen
I always have to call you three times before you listen to me. Are you channeling?
Daryl Anka
Could be.
Mayim Bialik
I am. I am very focused. I had a dream last night that I have never had before in my life, and it shook me. And I'm wondering if the dream had anything to do with this podcast, because I believe people come together and have a certain resonance and change to it.
Daryl Anka
I'm gonna guess that it probably does, because that happens when Bashar does private sessions. He tells people, look, anytime I'm going to actually be talking to anyone physically through the channel, we always have a meeting in the dream state first to set it up.
Mayim Bialik
Here's the quick version of the dream. I forget why I was. I was somewhere very high. It was either a plane, but it didn't feel like a plane, but I was, like, at a vantage point that was extremely high. And there was a quick negotiation, and I was released from that vantage point, and it was a free fall. And I passed a bird that was flying, and I was like, oh, that's weird that I'm falling faster than this creature that should be able to go wherever it wants. And it's just an absolute free fall. And I'm like, oh, there was a moment of fear, and then there was no fear at all. And I'm like, I'm just gonna land like a feather, and I'll be totally in control of it. And it reminded me of dreams. A recurring dream that I've had a lot, which is that I can fly. And sort of being in control of
Daryl Anka
flight is sort of like a typical
Mayim Bialik
astral projection, most powerful. But I've never had it, that level of free fall. And what struck me was both the terror and then the sense of serene confidence and peace in that free fall.
Daryl Anka
You might have been close to experiencing lucidity in the astral form.
Jonathan Cohen
Explain what an astral projection is.
Daryl Anka
Well, remember when I talked about the idea of how the soul. Okay, well, then it's. It's that you have relaxed the idea of your physical focus and you have expanded back out to become. Your consciousness now is in the non physical realm, but not all the way out. So you're still connected to the vibration of the physical realm, but you're able to transcend it and go wherever you want to go within a certain, you know, amount of parameter. But you're now freer to explore different things because you're not limited by any physical boundary. So it's your consciousness moving. This is also similar to remote viewing. It's a form of astral projection. It's more of out of body travel.
Jonathan Cohen
I had a dream I had a gigantic tumor on my face. Should we talk about that?
Daryl Anka
That might be something else.
Jonathan Cohen
Just kind of dropping that in there. Just to say, who knows?
Mayim Bialik
That leads me to another one of the principles. You are so loved unconditionally by creation that you can even choose to believe that you are not loved.
Daryl Anka
That's how unconditionally loved you are.
Mayim Bialik
Yeah, I mean, there's something both profound and very sad in that for me. Profound in that there's a force that exists that we just have to recognize. And the sadness is that there isn't some more guidance to help pick people up who are really struggling.
Daryl Anka
But it is there. But you have absolute free will to ignore it because that's.
Mayim Bialik
I think the sadness is the people who for whatever reason haven't felt it yet or are choosing.
Daryl Anka
Yeah, but your sadness is temporally based. And what I mean by that is remember that souls are actually eternal and infinite. And therefore everyone's always going to have another choice and another choice and another choice and another choice. It never ends. So everyone will get it at some point. There's no reason to be sad if they don't get it in one particular life. That's the way that life went. They'll learn from it.
Jonathan Cohen
In terms of the principles and in particular, you know, the wisdom that you have and the formula, you know, in terms of this. Is this something that you have an agreement with Bashar? You know, to be able to articulate this and to, you know, package it right in a way that people can have access to. Is this something that is an agreement of sorts of.
Daryl Anka
Yeah. Because I'll be at this point, now that I understand that as deeply as I do, I will actually start teaching classes on this. Because in any 90 minute channeling event, it's not enough time for people to really grasp the concepts. So I'll be doing week long, two week long courses, hours and hours a day so that through talking and also illustrations and demonstrations and what have you, people can really lock into the concepts, make them their own, and apply them in their lives to get an effect. So, yeah, I know enough about it to be able to do that now. And I've been starting to do that. At certain events I go to, I will sometimes teach, like, one part of the class.
Mayim Bialik
How do people start to open up their intuition or telepathic capability?
Daryl Anka
Well, again, the most important thing is to follow your passion. Because when you do act on your passion, what happens? You raise your vibrational frequency. And when you raise your vibrational frequency, what happens? You become a better receiver or a better antenna for higher frequency information and higher frequency abilities. And so it just goes hand in hand. I mean, in a sense, from Bashar's point of view. And now I understand this, this is just physics. You can't perceive what you're not the vibration of. You have to be equal to the vibration of something. You have to be there first before you can perceive that. And when you're operating on a higher level, you can't have anything but the thoughts that go with that level. The only way to have more negative thoughts is to leave that level and go down to a lower vibration that is commensurate with those negative thoughts. Everything has its level.
Mayim Bialik
I've heard it described as there's a point of no return when you start to explore healing and personal development where you kind of realize that there's a tipping point.
Daryl Anka
Yeah, absolutely. Bashar talked about that for his own civilization. He basically said, look, we've been making positive choices in our society for so long. It would actually be a challenge for us to choose something negative. There's so much inertia, so much momentum energetically in our collective society that no one would even think about trying to go and make some negative choice. He said it would actually be difficult for them to do that. They would struggle to go negatively at this point.
Jonathan Cohen
I think especially with kind of what the world feels like now, you know, there's a lot of, I think, extra uncertainty. I think there's a lack of trust, you know, in, you know, whether it's lack of trust in leadership or in the news that's reporting on the leadership, you know, it feels like a very confusing time. And, you know, as. As a parent of a teenager and someone in college. Like, I'm also hearing, you know, from young people who feel very disillusioned.
Daryl Anka
Absolutely.
Jonathan Cohen
What, what would you be able to offer, you know, from what? Learn from Bashar about sort of the. The place of whether it's evil in the world or negativity, you know.
Daryl Anka
Well, it goes back to what we talked about earlier. We have to understand that sometimes a soul will choose to do something that will point out to us the things that we've been doing that do not serve us, and they'll do it more and more strongly to get our attention.
Jonathan Cohen
Like a child.
Daryl Anka
Exactly. So it's kind of like, are we going to finally pay attention or are we just going to break down? So we're seeing more and more extreme versions of that because we have to wake up and we have to decide that we're not going to allow that to happen anymore. And we have to go to the causes of these things and not just deal with the symptoms. The second thing I'll say about that is one of the things I really appreciate about the information that's come through is sometimes how it paradoxically reverses our preconceptions about things like what you said we have a lack of trust. From his perspective, there's no such thing as a lack of trust. There is, however, a trust in lack. We're always trusting something to be true. But are you trusting what works for you or what doesn't work for you? There's no such thing as lacking trust. You know, and here's an, here's an example sometimes of Bashar's humor. When someone might come up to him and say, you know, I'm not very confident, he'll say, well, you're confident about that, aren't you? You are confident that you're not confident. So it's not that you're not confident. You're using your confidence to be confident in something that doesn't work for you.
Mayim Bialik
And people will say, well, my life has proven over and over and over again, therefore it's true.
Daryl Anka
Yes, but then he explains how that works and why they get that reflection. The reflection reinforces a belief they already had, and he can point out what that belief is that is causing that reflection that then reinforces itself a lot.
Mayim Bialik
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Daryl Anka
That's a belief. That's A belief that it's hard to break out of that that's a belief. See what I mean, how automatic that is when we get into that? Well, everyone knows it's hard to break. No, everyone doesn't know that. Everyone doesn't need to know that. That's a belief. So he's very quick about pointing out, listen to what goes through your head. Listen what comes out of your mouth. You're reinforcing something that doesn't work for you. When you say it's hard to do that. Yes, it may be a challenge you laid out for yourself on your life, but that doesn't mean you can't face that challenge in a way that gives you a positive result and gives you a lesson you need to learn.
Mayim Bialik
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Daryl Anka
Exactly. Always. Everything can serve double duty. Everything.
Jonathan Cohen
Even death.
Daryl Anka
Well, death is the finish of our school year, so to speak, the finish of our lesson. We're going back when we're done to decide how to use the lessons we learned here and to move on to something else.
Jonathan Cohen
You mentioned that you met your wife in a class. What has your personal life been like? Because in, in a sense, you. You carry another set of wisdom with you, another personality.
Daryl Anka
Yeah, well, I mean, it's definitely made a change in who I am in terms of things like emotional balance, in terms of just, again, experiencing more synchronicity in just knowing how things actually work allows me not to be reactive to things. It allows me to say, let me maintain, at the very least a neutral position so that I can decide how I'm going to define this experience. And it is by how I define it that will determine how I experience it. Because I know now everything can serve double duty. As Bashar often says, it doesn't really matter what happens. It matters what you do with what happens that makes the difference in your life. And so I've gotten to the point where I can hold a space for myself, where I'm not automatically reacting to unconscious, built in belief systems that are out of alignment with who I prefer to be. I am able to say this is happening in my life for a reason. Let me figure out what that reason is so I can use it not only to help myself, but maybe also to help the other people involved because maybe there's something about this situation that they need to understand as well. As I need to understand. Because I understand maybe what I'm dealing with is not my issue, but their issue. And I need to maybe help them figure out how they can get around that.
Jonathan Cohen
Does Bashar help you make any decisions in your personal life? For example, did you say to Bashar, should I have kids? Should I do this? Should I do that? No. Those are decisions you make on your own.
Daryl Anka
Absolutely. I mean, it wouldn't be a real relationship if he was trying to run me. He has his life. I have my life. We work together.
Mayim Bialik
It's a work relationship.
Jonathan Cohen
Do you have any indication from Bashar how long this relationship will last? Meaning, is he with you for your earthly life?
Daryl Anka
I would think. I'm not positive about this. I would think that once extraterrestrials are physically here, there would be no reason to have to channel him. You can talk to the ETs yourself.
Jonathan Cohen
I mean, I wouldn't assume that I can communicate with extraterrestrials when they get here.
Daryl Anka
Why not? Let's just break this down into two basic types of extraterrestrials. We've talked about the hybrids. Hybrid extraterrestrials are a specific type that have a lot to do with our genetics being mixed in there with them. And they may. Most of them look enough like us that they can be among us and have been among us for a long time, helping create different things in the sciences, in philosophy, in sociology, in politics, whatever they're helping. When open contact occurs, my understanding is we will be told who they are and we will be able to interact with them in public.
Mayim Bialik
It's me.
Jonathan Cohen
No, it's not.
Daryl Anka
No. None of them would reveal themselves at this point.
Jonathan Cohen
None of them would be tall Canadians.
Daryl Anka
None of them will reveal who they are at this moment. But there have been instances where people have reported seeing, like there was something very odd about this person. I couldn't put my finger on it. They felt like they weren't from here, but then I just went about my business. They have the telepathic ability to recognize when you recognize them and to turn you away and make you think about something else.
Jonathan Cohen
These are not the droids you are looking for.
Daryl Anka
Exactly. So that's one phase of open contact. The next phase is the pure extraterrestrials who will be introduced to us. Those we may not interact with a lot right away, but over the course of a few decades, they'll be fully integrated into our society and we into theirs. But first, the extraterrestrial hybrids that have already been here, we can interact with
Jonathan Cohen
Them, Would that mean the end of your relationship?
Daryl Anka
I don't need to channel if you can talk to an extraterrestrial hybrid.
Jonathan Cohen
Because that might be sad. He's been with you for so long.
Daryl Anka
No, because I'm going to still teach the principles, and that energy is still there. The connection is still there.
Jonathan Cohen
Why am I sad about it and you're not?
Daryl Anka
I don't know.
Mayim Bialik
She's sad about a lot of things,
Daryl Anka
but that's very sweet of you.
Mayim Bialik
Can we talk about the other aliens that are not the gray hybrids? What's their deal?
Daryl Anka
Well, there are beings that people have called out as being Pleiadian, Arcturan, whatever, Reptilian, the mantis beings, insectoid beings. I think that as we get introduced to more and more extraterrestrials, we will be introduced to ones that at first are more like us, so we don't freak out. And then.
Jonathan Cohen
I'm freaked out already.
Daryl Anka
And then over time, more of the ones that are not like us at all, because there are many more extraterrestrials that have no relationship to what we look like.
Jonathan Cohen
Okay, I'm going to ask another stupid and cynical question.
Daryl Anka
Okay.
Jonathan Cohen
What happens if this doesn't happen? Meaning, will you get further information about why it didn't happen and.
Daryl Anka
Okay, absolutely. But it will happen. It's inevitable at this point.
Jonathan Cohen
Like soon.
Daryl Anka
2027.
Jonathan Cohen
Oh, geez.
Daryl Anka
Okay.
Mayim Bialik
Also pretty specific.
Daryl Anka
Well, 2026 is the year of disclosure, and that's why we're seeing more information in the congressional hearings come out.
Jonathan Cohen
I just thought it was the year that I was finally gonna get fit.
Daryl Anka
And then it will culminate in the. An actual official public presentation.
Jonathan Cohen
What would you like us to do? To prepare. What do you think? Either you or. What is the information? This is what to do to prepare.
Daryl Anka
Because it raises your vibration and makes you more vibrationally capable of interacting with higher vibrational beings. So that's what you do is follow the formula.
Mayim Bialik
Given that human beings are not so great with welcoming the other, even the other amongst the same species.
Daryl Anka
Well, that's why it will take decades for this to be absorbed into our society.
Mayim Bialik
Are concerned that there are going to be armed, resilient resistance to welcoming aliens.
Daryl Anka
But the aliens have an advanced technology where that's not a worry to them.
Mayim Bialik
They can't get shot, for example.
Daryl Anka
They can't get shot.
Mayim Bialik
If they do, do they get annoyed with that? Is that like a mosquito biting them? They're like, what are these guys doing?
Daryl Anka
I mean, again, look at it this way. Like I said, the Adults are stepping into the room. You can recognize when a child is throwing a tantrum, but you understand it's a child and it doesn't really understand what's going on. So you're not getting annoyed so much as you're going, I'll let you calm down for a minute and then we'll have a conversation.
Jonathan Cohen
Is this gonna be like a dun, dun, dun, dun. Here we are.
Mayim Bialik
She wants to be a part of the inaugural committee.
Daryl Anka
This is in phases. It's in phases. I think at first, in disclosure, we're going to have more and more absolute proof that their ships are real. In other words, on the news. I'm going to be a little facetious right now. Maybe this is literal and maybe it's not. But just like you have a nightly weather report, here's the nightly UFO report. This is what was seen over Brazil today. Here's a photograph. This is what was seen over Washington D.C. today. Here's a photograph. So the ships at first will be documented more clearly. Yeah, will be documented more clearly. Then it will lead to, okay, we're going to have either something like a State of the Union address or an official press release or a press conference.
Jonathan Cohen
Trump still going to be president?
Daryl Anka
No, no.
Mayim Bialik
I mean, you don't want to send the nukes out to the ships. Like, you know, you can't.
Daryl Anka
Like I said, ships over missile silos off. We've done that. We've seen that several times. Malmstrom Air Force Base around the world, ships over nuclear silos.
Jonathan Cohen
Why would I not feel threatened by what you just said?
Daryl Anka
Because they're showing us we won't have a war. A global thermonuclear war that we won't be able to launch against one another.
Jonathan Cohen
I'm going to say a horrible thing. What if. Yeah, this is just all like a plot to like infiltrate and invade and maim and kill.
Daryl Anka
With their level of advanced technology, they could have done this 100 times over. Why would they wait until we had nuclear weapons to do so? Why wouldn't they have taken us over when we were Neanderthals? Salt, if they could do it. They've been around for millions of years.
Jonathan Cohen
They want our donuts.
Mayim Bialik
They were waiting for us to make good candy.
Daryl Anka
This is where human based fears come in without understanding what true intelligence is.
Jonathan Cohen
I mean, all my fears are based on lack of understanding what true intelligence is.
Daryl Anka
Well, exactly, because from Bashar's perspective, true intelligence operates on whole systems. It would never do anything to eliminate any part of the system to which it belongs because it would be damaging itself.
Mayim Bialik
That makes a lot of sense. And I like this sort of operational view. There's probably so much more to gain in that operational view. But if I shift to a couple of the practical questions. What's involved in spontaneous healing?
Daryl Anka
What's involved in spontaneous healing is first to understand that a healer never heals anyone directly. A healer puts out a vibrational frequency that represents the healed state. If the person requiring the healing decides that they're going to match that frequency, they will heal themselves.
Mayim Bialik
This is, I think, one of the most simple explanations I've heard.
Daryl Anka
Let's just say in the Bible, Jesus never healed anyone. He said, your faith has healed you, your belief has healed you.
Mayim Bialik
I want to repeat it though. That's why the notion is that a
Daryl Anka
healer puts out a vibration that represents the healed state. The person requiring the healing has to agree to mirror that state within themselves, thereby healing themselves.
Mayim Bialik
And we all know how to do that. We all can recognize this frequency and match it.
Daryl Anka
The only reason it wouldn't happen is if there is another lesson to learn by maintaining the disease. Not only the lesson may be for the person, but sometimes a soul will choose to have that experience for what other people around that person will learn.
Mayim Bialik
And if they're struggling, can they get out of that contract by saying, I no longer want to? Just kidding.
Jonathan Cohen
I get it.
Daryl Anka
If it was part of the life path choice. Choice, yes. If it wasn't, no.
Mayim Bialik
How do you know if it's part of that choice? Can you like muscle test? How do you figure it out?
Daryl Anka
Well, you just go through it and learn whatever lessons you can extract from it. Because if you use up the lessons and there's no more reason for it, it will go away. If it stays, there's still a purpose for it.
Jonathan Cohen
It's like when we say, you know your defects, if they're serving you, you'll hold on to them.
Daryl Anka
Exactly.
Jonathan Cohen
And when they no longer serve you, you will have them.
Daryl Anka
Exactly. Exactly. But it's also about sometimes serving others. Because sometimes a person that comes in with a particular condition is because of what doctors will learn from that, that will help humanity.
Jonathan Cohen
You're welcome. To every doctor I've ever been to, you're welcome. You didn't know someone could have influenza A and B at the same time.
Daryl Anka
You've learned something that can help someone else. Exactly.
Mayim Bialik
Do we all have angels? Guardian angels, yes. Non physical support system.
Daryl Anka
Everyone has a spirit team, sometimes hundreds of beings.
Mayim Bialik
Hundreds?
Daryl Anka
Yeah. Now you might have three or two or three main spirit Working guides that are specifically like, okay, I have the expertise to help you in this particular situation. Or this guide switches off, I have the expertise to help you in that particular situation. Guardian angels are sometimes referred to as birth angels. They're the ones that keep you on the planet until you have actually agreed to leave. So that's why we have a lot of near death experiences or a lot of things that people go, I should have died. Why didn't I die? Or people attempting suicide that don't succeed,
Mayim Bialik
they missed a gunshot.
Daryl Anka
Angel says, the birth angel says, not your time. So how much interference depends on the level of what you're doing to yourself. So let's say it's something where, like you said, you know, somebody puts a gun to their head, it's not their. Somehow it jams. That could literally be the guardian angel saying, that gun's not gonna work. They can affect physical material that strongly if there's a need to. But they will try probably something more subtle earlier.
Jonathan Cohen
First, most famous example, Abraham and Isaac. He's about to kill him. And the angel says, stop.
Mayim Bialik
What are your thoughts about people interacting with their primary guards or guardian angels on a regular basis? Should we be acknowledging them?
Daryl Anka
Do we say, yeah, say hi, say, you know, help. And that doesn't mean that they're going to just give you everything you want. It means they're going to help you figure out how to do it yourself. But you can always talk to them.
Jonathan Cohen
Is this information that you had before Bashar?
Daryl Anka
No.
Jonathan Cohen
Why does Bashar know about guardian angels?
Mayim Bialik
Bashar knows about everything because he knows about how the universe is, is structured.
Daryl Anka
That's number one. Number two, they operate on a frequency that is actually very close to spirit. And that's one of the reasons why sometimes in the presence of ETs, people panic is because when you're exposed to a vibration that we read as the vibration of spirit, our primitive mind goes, I'm about to die. And it goes into fight or flight, survival mode. And the fear comes up in us. You're not going to die. But that's how we react to being exposed to a frequency we read as the frequency of death.
Jonathan Cohen
Well, and, and also, I mean, what I'm thinking of is when people are in the presence of a great healer, right, Or a mystic or what I'm assuming charismatic leaders. Whether it's Jesus or, you know, like when you think about being in the presence of someone who has achieved enlightenment, it's often frightening, right? And the. In Hebrew we talk about it this, like this awe Right. The like, the words are that, like you're. You're like trembling. Exactly. And it's that, that notion. And I wonder if that's sort of
Daryl Anka
like it's a reaction to that higher frequency because we're not used to that and we feel like we're about to be annihilated by it. And so you go into survival mode.
Mayim Bialik
I see people talking, right. And so I'm reflecting what I've seen, which is that many people are holding on to the narrative. They're holding on to their ideas. They can't or they're struggling to shift their reality. And so when they get in the presence and they feel something different, they're terrified because they're not sure about taking that next leap. What that actually means, to leave that all behind. Can you talk about that? But what also strikes me is that how does addiction play in to keeping us stuck? Is it just another tool to help us avoid the discomfort of taking that step?
Daryl Anka
In a sense, addiction from Bashar's point of view, is trying to fill an emptiness that you feel. Trying to feel a connection where you don't feel one and you're either doing one of two things. You are either attempting to numb it so you don't feel it, or you're trying to fill it with something that will never fill it.
Mayim Bialik
The God shaped hole.
Daryl Anka
But it's about the idea of feeling a disconnection, feeling an emptiness, not feeling connected to source.
Mayim Bialik
Is that one of our greatest challenges of the digital era is the feeling of emptiness?
Daryl Anka
Absolutely. Feeling disconnected, strangely enough. Paradoxically enough, when we have an Internet that connects all of us, we feel more disconnected than ever because we're not really interacting.
Mayim Bialik
How important is it for people to have a creative practice as a spiritual connection?
Daryl Anka
I think it's very important myself. You have to balance the grounded, practical stuff with the creative stuff in life. I think to be a whole human being in some way, shape or form. And I think a lot of creative practices do have a knack for connecting you to spiritual awareness, so. Absolutely. Although again, I'm not saying that grounded stuff can't do that too, because staying grounded on the earth is also in a sense, a spiritual practice.
Mayim Bialik
I mean, something that's very grounded, working with your hands in some way.
Daryl Anka
Exactly.
Mayim Bialik
Can also be highly creative because you're solving problems. So you're using both sides.
Daryl Anka
That is why my wife and I created an escape room in Calabasas.
Jonathan Cohen
So Valerie, Valerie and I were just talking about this. Yeah, what, what, what is that venture like? How do you see that as an extension kind of of the work that you get to do.
Daryl Anka
Yeah, well, as you came out of the film industry and you know, we made three indie movies and you can't really make a great living that way. And we were looking around like, well, what uses the same skill sets we have that is more of a business, a year long business year round. And somebody suggested we were first going to talk about doing like haunted houses that come out every Halloween because they are very lucrative. But somebody suggested an escape room. We said, well, what's that? And so we started doing research and found out that it's exactly what we were looking for. Because I'm building sets, I'm building props, I'm telling stories.
Jonathan Cohen
Telling a story.
Daryl Anka
It's just that the people are now the actors in the movie.
Jonathan Cohen
I want to recommend also. It's, it's. I don't want to say it's an easy read, but it's, it's a, it's a, it's a logical and clear read. Okay, thank you. And it's really, you know, it's organized with a lot of, well, it's very intentionally kind of assembled so that you can understand practically what the things are that we're all working on collectively. I do recommend the formula.
Daryl Anka
Yeah, the formula is going to come out from St. Martin's Press next year, probably with a. It's going to actually be more of a workbook. So you can really go through exercises in it that help lock some of those concepts.
Mayim Bialik
Great.
Jonathan Cohen
It's really unbelievable. Where else can we direct people to learn more about the work you do and about Bashar?
Daryl Anka
To learn about Bashar, you can go to Bashar.org b a s h-a r.org for the escape room. Boggledescaperooms.com for anything else I'm doing, like books and so on and so forth, you can go to Darrellanka.com D A R R Y L A N K
Jonathan Cohen
A.com if we are still doing this podcast next year, will you come back?
Daryl Anka
Oh, absolutely.
Jonathan Cohen
Because I feel like there might be more for us to talk about.
Mayim Bialik
Sure.
Daryl Anka
Always. We've only scratched the surface.
Mayim Bialik
We really have. As we transition as a human civilization into the next phase, can you leave us with a message that you hope people will take away?
Daryl Anka
What I can say about following all the steps of the formula is that I know it does work. Even before I knew anything about Bashar and maybe because this was going to happen in my life, I have always been a person that refused to do anything that was not representative of my passion. And I've been doing that now for well over half a century. And it has always supported me, always. So it does work. You can make a living that way. Because you have to understand there's more than one form of abundance in the world. It's not just about the idea of money, although that's one valid representation of abundance. There are many forms of abundance, like synchronicity, like being given a gift, like having something to trade. Communication, imagination, time and space are all forms of abundance. And if you allow all forms of abundance to be equally valid, then they can work together to give you the 100% abundance you need to always move forward. So you just have to relax your definition of what abundance is and allow it to flow to you more automatically and more naturally and you will be taken care of.
Jonathan Cohen
I would say this is one of the most unusual conversations we've had. It was very, very enjoyable though, and really fascinating. And we appreciate the opportunity not just to have you able to communicate the things that Bashar brings you, but also for people to understand what it's like to be the person who's holding this kind of information. We really appreciate it.
Daryl Anka
Oh, my pleasure. Thank you for having me.
Jonathan Cohen
Thank you so much.
Mayim Bialik
And if Bashar has a co worker who wants to talk to me, I'm ready. I'm ready to channel.
Daryl Anka
Be careful what you wish for.
Jonathan Cohen
Obviously this reminded me a lot of our conversation with Lee Harris, who also is channeling information, but has a very different kind of entry point in that Lee Harris was literally on the subway one night and this kind of came to him. It's really interesting that Daryl accessed this channeling opportunity through meditation and more through an intentional can I receive information? He obviously was open to it. As he says himself, there's no way to kind of like verify the veracity of this. We don't know if it's absolutely true. What he knows is that he believes he's tapping into something that feels outside of his cognitive experience, feels like it's being downloaded. It feels like it's coming in an instant and there's some sort of process that he's in with this other part of his consciousness.
Mayim Bialik
You know, what do you think about the change in brain state that was identified in the documentary and like. And connected to this idea of the change in brain state that we have when we're in play in that way or in a creative space?
Jonathan Cohen
Yeah, I mean, what. What he's talking about is sort of, you know, what we've talked About a lot. When we speak about meditation, you know, what. What frequency, right, are you vibrating at? Where. If you were to do an eeg, an electroencephalogram recording, what is your brain doing? And, yeah, we know that there are different states that people can get into and that they do get into. And, you know, people like Richard Davidson, who have done brain imaging of people, monks in deep meditative states, we know that the brain is gonna behave differently. I don't know enough about, you know, EEG recordings to be able to say that between 9 and 10 and 11 hertz, you know, is a shift that's statistically significant. I just. I don't have that information at hand. But what I will say is I think it's interesting that when undergoing an EEG study, there was a difference that. That apparently could be detected of different states. And, yeah, what that. What that indicates, again, is not proof of anything. What it shows is that he is in a different, you know, kind of vibrational frequency when he's receiving this information or when Bashar is listening to information versus when it's his brain activity, this becomes being recorded.
Mayim Bialik
It is fascinating what we can access in different states. You know, we think that just wherever we are is the nature of our reality and how much is available to us as we shift how we're operating, how we're thinking, what our belief systems are, and even the speed at which our brain is processing.
Jonathan Cohen
Yeah, and also, you know, one of the things that he talks about, you know, in. In the formula, a gift from the future, which he says, you know, as he mentioned, it's this kind of openness that he's hoping people will have, which is the same kind of openness that he believes will be necessary for whatever our next incarnation is, whether it's having contact with extraterrestrials or whether it's just being more in touch with our own needs. Right. And our own destinies. What I was kind of pleased to find in this book is that there's. There's nothing like, so outside of the realm of understanding that it's like everybody needs to paint their faces blue. Like, it's nothing like that. That it's, you know, five principles, that existence is all that there is. Everything's an expression or reflection of existence. Everything exists here and now. Everything's determined by resonance or a state of being, and everything constantly changes. Except these laws. You know, these are the. The five principles, or what he calls the laws of existence. So, you know, these are things that are helpful, wise, very interesting. And there's also different actions you can undertake and effects that those have it. It's very interesting.
Mayim Bialik
An interesting conversation and something we didn't even expect as we started this podcast.
Jonathan Cohen
Not at all. And who knows? I mean now I feel like I gotta really suit up and show up for 2026.
Mayim Bialik
I nominate you to be on the alien greeting committee putting forward a panel of humanity.
Jonathan Cohen
Now that you're here, I want you to meet this one.
Mayim Bialik
I was also thinking maybe you should host those news updates.
Jonathan Cohen
Sake.
Mayim Bialik
Over the Sedona Mountains today we saw brought to you by Mayim Bialik.
Jonathan Cohen
Let's all stay tuned for that. But until then, from our breakdown to the one we hope you never have, we'll see you next time.
Daryl Anka
It's Maya Bialix breakdown. She's going to break it down for you. She's got a neuroscience PhD or two now. She's going to break down. So break down. She's going to break it down.
Guest: Darryl Anka
Date: March 25, 2026
In this compelling second part of her conversation with Darryl Anka, Mayim Bialik—joined by co-host Jonathan Cohen—dives into extraordinary territory: the impending disclosure of extraterrestrial contact, the dynamics of consciousness, spontaneous healing, manifestation, psychic phenomena, and how belief shapes reality. Darryl, who has channeled the entity Bashar for over forty years, shares perspectives from both his experience as a channeler and Bashar’s purported extraterrestrial wisdom. The conversation is equal parts mind-expanding and pragmatic, weaving in humor, skepticism, practical advice, and existential questions about love, death, creativity, and humanity’s future.
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“Break it down.” – Mayim Bialik