He Actually Died: What He Saw on the Other Side of the White Light, from the Life Review to Meeting Jesus to the Truth About Why Earth Is the Hardest Place to Incarnate

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Mayim Bialik’s Breakdown — Episode Summary
“He Actually Died: What He Saw on the Other Side of the White Light — from Life Review to Meeting Jesus to Why Earth Is the Hardest Place to Incarnate”
Episode Date: March 31, 2026
Host: Mayim Bialik
Co-Host: Jonathan Cohen
Guest: John J. Davis

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Episode Overview

This episode features an in-depth conversation with John J. Davis, who shares his detailed and transformative experience after being clinically dead for seven minutes during surgery at age 21. Unlike typical near-death experiences, John recounts what he calls a true “death experience”, describing in rich detail what he saw, learned, and felt “on the other side of the white light”. The discussion explores the nature of consciousness, the afterlife, the purpose of incarnation on Earth, and the universal quest for meaning — blending spiritual insight with curious skepticism.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Experience of Dying & Immediate Afterlife

• Events Leading to Death (05:24–06:46)

  • John describes how a moped accident required hand surgery; during anesthesia, he had a fatal allergic reaction.
  • “Something terrible happened. And I had a horrible allergic reaction to the anesthesia. And it stopped my heart. And I died.” — John (06:44)

• Arrival in the Orientation Center (06:53–09:19)

  • He immediately found himself in a vast, beautiful white marble building.
  • He hears a voice identifying itself as his spirit guide: “My name is Alan. I’m your spirit guide.” — John (06:53)
  • No prior knowledge of ‘spirit guides’; raised Catholic.

• The ‘Death Experience’ vs. ‘Near Death’

  • Unlike classic NDEs, John was “on the other side of the light” — not floating above his body but starting from a wholly new reality.
  • “Somehow…they put me on the other side of that white light. That’s where my story starts.” — John (06:46)

• Alan, the Spirit Guide (11:10–12:12)

  • Alan’s name was perceived both telepathically and, as John describes, "written across my forehead."

2. The Orientation Center: Process, Purpose, Journey

• Functions & Environment (20:18–29:11)

  • Orientation counselors greet new souls, helping them recall where they truly come from and ease their fear of dying.
  • Newly arrived souls transform to their ‘original’ state — typically appearing in their thirties.
  • Reunion: After orientation, souls are greeted by deceased loved ones in the “gardens," a joyful, communal celebration.

• Purpose of Earth Life (24:01–29:11)

  • “Earth has never been our home. The other side is our home…People don’t realize what a big deal it is to come to Earth. You really have to be a warrior.” — John (24:01)
  • Coming to Earth is seen as a difficult, courageous choice — greeted with reverence on return.

• Life Activities “Over There” (27:33–28:09)

  • Souls engage in learning, hobbies, music, festivals, and more — “Everything you like to do here on Earth, you can do on the other side. It’s an absolute paradise over there.” — John (27:35)

3. Mechanics of Communication, Time, and Identity

• Voice and Memory (28:09–29:11)

  • Alan’s communication was “like someone fast-forwarded a recording — very rapid”, experienced telepathically.
  • John notes his memory is normally poor but recalls every detail of the experience — “They wanted me to tell people what’s over there.” — John (29:11)

• Perception of Time (13:30–14:39; 45:37–45:59)

  • The experience felt vastly longer than seven minutes; perceived as hours.
  • “Time is not obeying the same rules … when you are in this plane of consciousness.” — Jonathan (44:53)

• Identity on the Other Side (32:01–33:46)

  • Souls appear in their thirties by default but can assume any age/form.
  • Animals, too, have souls — John was reunited with beloved childhood cats (31:54–31:59).

4. Life Review & Soul School

• The Life Review (41:14–44:36)

  • In a marble building with a dome, screens play out multiple episodes of John’s life simultaneously.
  • “You can feel how your actions affected other people … If you intentionally hurt someone, you’ll feel what they felt in your Life Review.” — John (44:36)
  • Reinforces the importance of empathy and accountability in soul development.

• Past Lifetimes (45:59–52:04)

  • John is shown three of his past lives: a monk in Asia, a cobbler in Eastern Europe, and a fisherman in the Middle East.
  • Earth is contrasted with the “other side" as a place uniquely designed for learning through adversity and challenge.

5. Pre-Life Planning, Soulmates, and Libraries

• Pre-Life Planning Building (52:10–56:17)

  • Souls write out a “scroll” of life goals/lessons before incarnating; after death, they review their scroll to see what was accomplished.
  • Everyone has a “soulmate" — John’s soulmate’s book was identified as “Nina”. Not everyone incarnates for partnership or family: “Just the fact that anybody comes here in the first place, they’ve already achieved something extraordinary.” — John (56:17)

• The Grand Library (62:37–66:53)

  • An infinite library houses the records of all lives and history.
  • Souls can watch “actual history" on what resembles plasma screens — knowledge and learning are core afterlife activities.

6. The Cosmos, Other Worlds, and the Scope of Existence

• Planetarium Segment (60:02–62:37)

  • John is shown the vastness of the universe and the existence of innumerable inhabited planets.
  • “There’s far more life in the universe than you can possibly imagine.” — John (62:39)
  • Earth is just one of countless worlds available for learning.

• Afterlife Activities & Joy (27:33–27:54; 74:35)

  • Souls “pursue what they love” — whether counseling, teaching, or even organizing, akin to vocational joy, without the pressure of survival.

7. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “The happiest day any of us will ever have will be our last day. Because that’s the day we get to go home again.” — John (30:51)
• “You really have to be a warrior when you come to a place like Earth.” — John (24:09)
• “You do the things on the other side that you love to do…like people have jobs, but they don’t have to pay their bills.” — John (34:50)
• “You can watch anybody’s lives and learn about history that way. It’s the first reality TV.” — Mayim (68:47)
• “I haven’t even gotten to the best part yet.” — John (59:40)
• Closing tease: “In part two, he meets Jesus in a meadow.” — Jonathan (75:20)

8. Hosts’ Reflections & Approach

• Skepticism + Curiosity (04:26; 58:54)
  • Mayim and Jonathan challenge and joke about details, clarifying John’s perceptions and their meanings.
  • They highlight the uniqueness of his NDE, drawing connections with prior guests.
  • “The level of detail is unbelievable. … The amount of information you have returned with does not chronologically fit into the amount of time that you were not on this planet.” — Jonathan (58:54)

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Segment Timestamps (Highlights)

• 00:00 — John describes the moment of death
• 06:46 — First impressions: the orientation center, meeting Alan
• 21:00 — Functions of the orientation center and orientation counselors
• 24:09 — Transforming after death, the significance of coming to Earth
• 27:54 — Daily life and joyful pursuits in the afterlife
• 41:14 — The life review and deep empathy
• 45:59 — Review of past lifetimes
• 52:10 — The scrolls and pre-life planning
• 56:17 — Soulmate books and individual soul records
• 60:02 — The planetarium, other worlds, the cosmic perspective
• 62:37 — Grand library and “watching” history
• 71:00 — Exploring a castle, learning from guides, and more historical records
• 75:20 — Cliffhanger: meeting Jesus, integration, and more in part two

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Tone & Style

• The conversation is honest, vivid, and frequently humorous, balancing deep curiosity with rigorous questioning.
• Mayim and Jonathan guide the narrative with warmth and skepticism, keeping John’s account grounded while respecting its spiritual implications.

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Takeaways

This episode offers listeners a profound, detailed account of a “death experience” — not merely a brush with the afterlife, but a comprehensive tour through the mechanics of the soul’s journey, the purpose of earthly existence, the joy of the “other side”, and the interconnectedness of all life in the cosmos. John’s story, filled with hope and wonder, invites listeners to consider life (and death) as a deeply meaningful, adventurous, and ultimately reassuring process.

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End of Part One
Stay tuned for Part Two: John’s encounter with Jesus, his philosophies on God, discussion of extraterrestrial life, and his return to the living — all examined with Mayim and Jonathan’s signature blend of open-mindedness and rigor.

Transcript

[John J. Davis]

I didn't know that I died. The last thing I remember is the feeling of the anesthesia going through my arm. That's where my story starts.

[Jonathan Cohen]

John J. Davis was 21 years old when he died in an operating room. This is different than any near death experience we've ever talked about. He's here today to share what he saw on the other side.

[John J. Davis]

I heard. I'm your spirit guide. They put me in what is called the orientation center. Each screen was playing a different episode of my life.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Oh, my gosh. I was. I don't even want to call this a near death experience. It was a death experience.

[John J. Davis]

All of a sudden, there was a gentleman standing right in front of me. He didn't tell me who he was, but I knew this was Jesus. The kind of hope that that experience gave me, it wasn't for me. It was for me to share it with others. People don't have to be afraid of dying. The other side, that's home. People don't realize what a big deal it is to come to Earth. You really have to be a warrior.

[Jonathan Cohen]

If one of the choices is Earth, where else might we inhabit?

[John J. Davis]

There's far more life in the universe than you can possibly imagine. Here's something that'll blow your mind.

[Jonathan Cohen]

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[John J. Davis]

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[Jonathan Cohen]

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[Mayim Bialik]

And I'm Jonathan Cohen.

[Jonathan Cohen]

And welcome to our breakdown. Well, folks, Today we're going to take you beyond this world. What if I were to tell you that we have a guest who didn't just have a near death experience. He died. And for seven minutes, he was dead in an operating room. He had an experience that takes much longer than seven minutes to detail. He's here today to share the very, very elaborate, detailed, complicated, and very touching story of, of what he saw on the other side. This is different than any near death experience we've ever talked about. And John J. Davis is here to explain in detail why he believes he was chosen to have this experience and what very specific message he was tasked to impart to all of us when he was brought back from death. We'd like to remind you. Please follow us on substack. There's content there. You cannot get any anywhere else. Hang on to your hats and glasses and welcome, John J. Davis, to the Breakdown. Break it down.

[John J. Davis]

Thank you so much for having me on. I, I always love to share my story and I hope that it gives your audience the kind of hope that is given me for all these years.

[Jonathan Cohen]

You know, stories of people who have been declared dead and have come back, you know, are fascinating to people for so many reasons. And one of the reasons is because, because the stories are often colorful, fascinating, you know, entertaining. But, but the other reason is that, you know, people who have experienced the, the things that you have experienced have an access to a knowing and a wisdom that literally comes from some other place that you get to then impart to people. So before we even get to your story, I wonder if you can start us off with, with why do you think this happened to you in particular? Sure.

[John J. Davis]

That's a, that's a great question. And it's a question that I've thought about ever since this happened. Because my story started back in 1987. That's when this whole thing happened. And it has to be a God thing, because I remember every single detail like it happened yesterday. And every time I tell the story, it's like I'm right back there again. But I don't know why I had the experience that I did. I always thought, why didn't they just give it to Oprah or someone like, like, like you both? Who has, who has an audience? I don't have anything. I don't have a podcast. I don't have a radio show. I don't have anything. But all I've ever done is do what they told me to do, which was to share what they showed me. So I don't Know why they gave it to me.

[Jonathan Cohen]

So take us back to the time that you were 21 years old and walk us through what led to your near death experience.

[John J. Davis]

Yeah. So here's how the whole thing started. My dad was in sales. He had a floor covering business in sales his entire career. And one year he won a sales contest. And part of what he won were these two mopeds, or what we call. We would call like scooters nowadays. And we used to ride them all over the neighborhood all the time. One day I was out riding and I had an accident. And I slammed into a tree. And the way that I landed, I tore the tendons off my right hand. And I needed to go in and have them surgically reattached. Well, I was only 21, and I had never had surgery before. I don't think I'd ever even spent any time in a hospital, really. So my mom drives me down to the hospital, to this clinic, and they wheel me into the operating room. They start to prep me, and they started to give me the anesthesia to knock me out. Well, something terrible happened. And I had a horrible allergic reaction to the anesthesia. And it stopped my heart. And I died.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Were you aware that anything was going wrong, or were you, at this point, what we would call unconscious?

[John J. Davis]

I was totally awake. The anesthesia hadn't taken effect yet, but I could feel the warmth going through my arm. So all of a sudden, everything went black. And the very next second, I woke up. And I was standing in the most beautiful building I had ever seen. It was this beautiful white marble. White, polished marble. A lot of times when we hear about near death experiences, we hear about a person having some kind of an accident. They're floating above their body, looking down, and they become aware of a tunnel. And they start to move down the tunnel. And at the end of the tunnel, there's a white light. But before they get to it, they're met by somebody. A relative, a friend, a family member, somebody who passed before them and tells them, it's not your time. You have to go back. So we have never known what is that white light, but what they did with me. Somehow, and I don't know how they did this, they put me on the other side of that white light. That's where my story starts. So here's what happened. As I'm standing in this beautiful white marble building. It was so long, I could not see the end of it. Right about then, in my left ear, I heard, my name is Alan. I'm your spirit. Guide? Well, nobody had ever talked about spirit guides back in 1987. I had never even heard the term before. So I just thought, this. This has to be some kind of an angel, because I was raised Catholic, and we never talked about spirit guides. Well, apparently, every single one of us, before we come into a lifetime, we have a spirit guide who helps us plan our lifetimes, and they're with us throughout our entire lives. Well, my guide, Allen, was telling me in my left ear every single thing he was showing me, and he told me where I was. I was in what is called the orientation center, and it's the place that all of us go to when we finish a lifetime.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Okay, I'm going to stop you right here.

[John J. Davis]

Yeah, we.

[Jonathan Cohen]

We got to walk it back a couple steps.

[Mayim Bialik]

You've never been to the orientation.

[Jonathan Cohen]

I've never been to the orientation center. So you're laying on the table, and you're aware they're going to anesthetize you. And you feel the warmth of the medication, which is not unusual, but it sounds like something. Did you remember anyone saying before you kind of went away, did you remember anyone saying, something's wrong. He's having a bad reaction. Do you remember anything before it went black?

[John J. Davis]

No. Nothing. Well, the last thing. The last thing I remember is the feeling of the warmth, the anesthesia going through my arm.

[Jonathan Cohen]

So everything goes black. In your conscious experience, was John, who previously was on the table being anesthetized, aware that John was no longer on the table being anesthetized? Meaning when you opened your eyes and you saw that you were in this white marble, endless building, did you have any sort of, like, what the heck is happening? I should be on the table? Or were you transported to a different version of you?

[John J. Davis]

That's. That's a great question. When. When I first opened my eyes and I was standing there looking at this building that was so long, I couldn't see the end of it. My first thought was, oh, my gosh. I had no idea the hospital was this big. I didn't know that I died. I think if I had known that, I think I would have asked so many more questions. I didn't know that I died. Everything was going so fast, and Alan was talking to me so quickly.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Okay, I'm gonna stop you there again. I'm stopping there again. I can almost roll with spirit guide. Why is his name Alan?

[John J. Davis]

I don't know.

[Mayim Bialik]

When he's not a spirit guide. He's working at H and R Block.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Yeah.

[John J. Davis]

Yeah.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Okay. So do you have any association to the name Alan. Do you know anyone named Alan?

[John J. Davis]

No, not anybody. Not a single person.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Was it Alan with 1L or 2?

[John J. Davis]

2L's, a L, L, E, N. Oh,

[Jonathan Cohen]

wait, A L, L, E, N. So that's usually the way a last name is spelled.

[John J. Davis]

Yeah, that's how he spelled it. Alan, how did you get into talking

[Mayim Bialik]

about how he spelled his name?

[Jonathan Cohen]

Great question. How did you know that your spirit guide, Alan, spelled it A L, L, E, N. That.

[John J. Davis]

That was my very first impression. It was almost like I could see it written across my forehead. A L L, E, N. Allen. And ever since then, that's. That's always what I've called him.

[Jonathan Cohen]

All right, so we're dialing back in. He whispers in your ear, my name is Alan. I'm your spirit guide. This is the question I'm asking sort of about your consciousness. Did you have a notion of I'm actually on the table or you're just in this new place?

[John J. Davis]

I am fully me, just like I am ordinarily. But I was standing in this place, and I had no recollection that I was laying on that table. Everything was happening right then and right there. I was present 100% in this place building.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Once things went black on the hospital side of John's experience.

[John J. Davis]

Yeah.

[Jonathan Cohen]

What we know happened was that for approximately seven minutes, you were dead. Meaning everybody was likely some form of freaking out, calling a code, trying to revive you. I'm not sure if they informed your family what was going on, but. But just to provide a framework, for seven minutes, you were dead.

[John J. Davis]

Yeah, exactly.

[Jonathan Cohen]

During that time, you and Allan went all sorts of places.

[John J. Davis]

Exact. That's exactly what happened. I had. I had no idea until the very end that anybody was even working on me. When I came back at the end of my experience, I was laying on the table, I opened up my eyes, and everybody was staring at me, looking down at me like, okay, we got him back, we got him back. But during this whole experience, I felt like I was gone for an hour or two. It just. It went on this huge, long journey that went on forever, but chronologically, it was only seven minutes.

[Jonathan Cohen]

And this is something that we talk about a lot, which I think is one of the most compelling aspects of. I don't even want to call this a near death experience. It was a death experience. Right. Like, by all. By all measures, you were dead. But this is what's fascinating to me. You came back with a lot more than seven minutes worth of experience, information, and consciousness. Right.

[Mayim Bialik]

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[John J. Davis]

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[John J. Davis]

You know what? He was standing to the, to the left hand side of me. I never actually looked at him. Everything was happening so quickly. He was taking me from one place here, then here, then here. But I never stopped to look at him. Everybody else that I saw, they looked just like we do. They look just like us. So here's something that'll blow your mind. So I'm standing in that building. I look to my right and as far down as I can see are these beautiful white marble columns, maybe 20 or 30ft high, about 6ft apart. So far down I couldn't see the end of it. In the middle of this building were all these tables about the size of a person's average kitchen table made of beautiful white marble. And there were two people sitting at every one of these tables, again going as far down as you can see. And my guide Allen said they're called orientation counselors. And so I look over to my left and this is the part that was the most extraordinary. On the left hand side of this building again was beautiful white marble, polished white marble. But every six feet apart there were these tunnels that looked like they had been cut out of solid marble. Absolutely 90 degree angled doorways, about 6ft apart, all the way down as far as you could see. And my guide said, this is how people get back to the other side.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Oh gosh.

[John J. Davis]

Because the other side, that's home. Earth has never been our home. The other side is our home. So he said, look at the next tunnel. So I look up at the Next tunnel, there was a man coming through. He was an elderly gentleman, probably in his 80s or 90s. And he was doing this. He had his right hand over his chest, like he had heart pain or chest pain. And my guide, Allen, said he just passed from a heart attack. So the. Remember we talked about, there's two counselors at every one of these tables. There was a woman who was sitting closest to that tunnel. She stood up, she walked over to him. She took his hands in hers, and she led him back to the table. And they sat down across from each other. And she started talking to him. But I was too far away to hear what she was saying. But my guide, Alan, told me that on the other side, the orientation counselor's job is to help people remember where they're from. Because most of us, when we leave the other side, or heaven, or the afterlife, whatever you want to call it, when we come into a lifetime, most of us don't remember where we're from. So there's a lot of fear and worry and dread about the process of dying, especially for all of us here on Earth. It's one of the greatest fears of humanity. So the orientation counselors basically tell people, this is how you passed. You just finished your lifetime here on Earth, and now you're back home again. And so my guide, Allen, said to watch him. So I'm watching him, and the weirdest thing happened.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Weirder than the fact that you died and a dude named Alan is walking you through the orientation center of the afterlife. I can't wait.

[John J. Davis]

Oh, my gosh, this gets even weirder than that. You have. You're. You're going to be so amazed by what happened. All of a sudden, I'm watching this gentleman who had a long life on Earth. He began to change from an elderly gentleman into a young man in his 30s. And Alan told me that at creation, God created all of us in our 30s. That's how we appear on the other side. And so he was having what they call orientation, helping people remember where they're from. All of a sudden, when he is finished, he stands up, he walks off to the right. He walks down these three steps, and he walks into what I call are the gardens. I don't know if that's what they call them, but that's what it looked like to me. This beautiful, gigantic garden with the most beautiful green emerald grass and flowers and trees. It looked like a humongous English garden. Absolutely beautiful. And there were all these people there. There must have been a hundred or two hundred people that were there waiting for this gentleman. And my guide explained to me that when we pass, all of us come through the tunnel, we go into the light, we go into the orientation center, and then we have what is called a reunion. And the reunion is all the people that that gentleman knew in his life who had passed before him. Parents, grandparents, friends, siblings. All of them were there waiting, plus all the people who. Who already knew him on the other side. And it was like a big party. Everybody was clapping, applauding, hugging this man, telling him he did a great job. And my guide, Alan, told me, he said, people don't realize what a big deal it is to come to Earth. There are many, many souls who don't want to come here because it is so hard. So many of the lessons all of us go through. And he said, you really have to be a warrior when you come to a place like Earth. And he said, that's why all those people are there. You know what I've never understood? When I was in that orientation building, watching all this activity, there were no computers that were on those tables. There were no papers, no documents, Nothing to tell them who's coming through these tunnels. But those counselors knew. They knew who this gentleman was, and they knew when he was going to pass and what he passed from. And the only thing I can think of is that it has to be a God thing, because how in the world do you know who's going to come through and when? But they know because somebody told all those people in the garden when he was coming through. Because on the other side, nobody just stands around all day. Everybody's busy over there.

[Mayim Bialik]

What are they busy doing?

[John J. Davis]

Everything. They go hiking, they take classes, they go swimming, they visit with friends, they go to music festivals. Everything that you like to do here on Earth, they told me you can do on the other side. It's an absolute paradise over there.

[Mayim Bialik]

I mean, they. They know how everyone's going to be there. The same way that he knew Alan. Right. It's telepathic communication. They're, like, merged with a database of sorts. An energetic database.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Sure.

[Mayim Bialik]

Whereby that information just becomes available.

[Jonathan Cohen]

What is Allen's voice? Like? Is he speaking, like, with a mouse? Is it being communicated to you telepathically? Is his voice familiar to you? Do you just have a knowing of what he's saying?

[John J. Davis]

It's. It sounded like. Have you ever listened to a. A voice recording and you can speed it up, like, fast forward it? Yeah, that's what it sounded like. It didn't. It didn't sound like you and I, it sounded like somebody had fast forward on the, on the recording button, but it was very fast. It was, it was going super fast. And I think that's why I never even had time to think what was happening. I was just going along with everything he was showing me and just listening. And the weirdest thing too is I usually have a really bad memory. Like I couldn't even tell you what I had for dinner last night. But I remember every single detail of what they showed me. And I think that's a reason, because they wanted me to tell people what's over there.

[Jonathan Cohen]

When you talk about they, who do you, who are you referring to? Like, what do you, you know, when you say, I don't know why, or you know, why they showed me this, who is the they for you?

[John J. Davis]

I guess all the people that I interacted with there were. And as I, as I tell you more, you'll, you'll, you'll be able to kind of help me understand more about what I was seeing. But there were so many people over there that we think that Earth has a lot of people, like 8 billion souls here. There are if many, if not more on the other side. God created billions and billions of us, and you would think that all of creation is here on Earth, but it's not. In fact, in a little bit later, I'll tell you more about the other places that we can go.

[Jonathan Cohen]

I'm really struck by the fact that the other people we've spoken to who have had NDEs, I don't know if any of them were declared dead for, for something like seven minutes. Meaning when we talk about near death experiences, it's usually people on this side of the light. Right. They're having experiences and they're given this option. Do you want to go back? Elizabeth Crone talks about how she was shown that there was a place beyond the mountains that once you go there, you do not come back. Right. I think that John might be the first person that we're speaking to who had a prolonged experience of essentially death and then being brought back by, you know, many interesting mechanisms.

[John J. Davis]

Yeah, my, my experience, all I can really say is it was. I mean, I had so many things happen, and I look at my experience as I'm a piece of a jigsaw puzzle. We're all trying to put this puzzle together, all of us who have had NDEs, and we're all trying to figure out how this all works. And I think what makes my story so unique is that they started mine on the other side of the light. So I think they want me to tell people that there's nothing to be afraid of, about dying. In fact, the happiest day any of us will ever have will be our last day. Because that's the day we get to go home again. And all of our loved ones will be there, all of our friends. And believe it or not, our animals that we loved growing up, they're all there. God created our animals with souls. And I saw two cats that I had growing up.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Stop it.

[John J. Davis]

Yeah, Boo and Muffin and I saw them. They're all there.

[Mayim Bialik]

You were 21 at the time.

[John J. Davis]

Yeah.

[Mayim Bialik]

You died. But do you age up if everyone is supposed to be 30? If the old man ages back, do you age up? And you. Doesn't sound like you were aging up. So you were still in a limbo state. You weren't. You were on the other side of the light, but you weren't fully dead. Even though you were clinically dead. They knew that it wasn't your time.

[John J. Davis]

That's exactly right. What happens is you just. You just hit it on the head. When somebody passes, if they live a long life and they pass when they're elderly, they age back down again. If a soul comes into a lifetime and they decide that they're going to pass when they're 10, that child comes back to the other side. But that child is also a soul of God. And that child ages up to the age that they normally were on the other side. So we age down and we age up to be in our 30s.

[Mayim Bialik]

So the afterlife is just a bunch of 30 year olds living their best life. Isn't it weird not to have anyone of different ages? It seems weird.

[John J. Davis]

Well, a person can appear any way they want to. They can. It's. It's kind of like it was so amazing. It felt like Harry Potter. It had that kind of magical feeling to all of this. But a person can appear to be any age they want to be. A lot of people will age up. It's like if you, if you, when you pass, let's say you Pass when you're 80 and your kids remember you at 80, you might age up when they pass, so they recognize you immediately.

[Mayim Bialik]

But you can shift, you can be 80 sometimes. You can come back.

[John J. Davis]

Yeah. Yep.

[Jonathan Cohen]

This was what happened to you. Right. And this was the information that you're receiving. So in theory, this information's coming to you in English. Right. Cause that's your native tongue. Is this a diverse group of people that you're seeing or are you Seeing like the people from San Jose, California, there.

[John J. Davis]

There were every race, every ethnicity, everything I saw as I was in this experience. Everybody is there. Every. There is. It's so varied. It's like going to where the building and I'll tell you in a minute, there was a building I went to that was. Had this big huge dome on it. And when I looked out the window of that building, I could see all these people walking back and forth. It was so busy. It was like. It was like going to Los Angeles, going to downtown at lunchtime.

[Jonathan Cohen]

It makes me feel dead when I go to downtown.

[John J. Davis]

Yeah, you see all these people walk up. That's what it looked like. So wherever it was that my guide Alan took me, it was really busy. It was a busy place. Nobody, just. People just don't sit around all day. Everybody lives their life and they're. And when you finish your life, you just. And you get back to the other side, you just pick up where you left off. Having all your friends, your family, doing all the things you like to do. Then one of the things that was so interesting to me is you do the things on the other side that you love to do. It's almost. It's almost like people have jobs, but they don't have to have a job to pay their bills. They pursue what they love to do in the people. Remember what we talked about? The orientation center, all those counselors that were there, all of them love to do that role. They love to be orientation counselors. Well, here's, here's the next thing. This is even going to blow your mind even more so after this gentleman has this reunion with all those people there. My guide takes me on this journey.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Are you walking? How do you get place to place?

[John J. Davis]

That is such a great question. I don't know.

[Mayim Bialik]

I think he's floating.

[John J. Davis]

Yeah, because we didn't walk, we didn't fly. There wasn't enough time. It had to be something with thought because instantaneously I was here. He was telling me what this was, then it was here.

[Mayim Bialik]

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[John J. Davis]

So he takes me to this building that is so large we have nothing like it here on earth. And it was a rectangle building made of beautiful White marble with all these white marble columns all along the perimeter. And it was solid. Everything that I saw was solid. Just like if you were to touch your leg or your table, that's solid. It was. It was just like that. And I can't explain how that's possible. So he takes me inside this building, and we go into a round room, this perfectly round, big room. And I look up, and all along the ceiling are these movie screens, just like you would go to see a movie. There must have been 15 or 20 of these screens all around the top of me. And my guide, Alan, said, this is the Life Review. Then all of a sudden, every one of the screens lit up, and each screen was playing a different episode of my life.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Oh, my gosh.

[John J. Davis]

One screen had me as a little infant. Another screen would show me as a toddler.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Were these images that you have seen home videos of or photos or. They were. These were spontaneous, original images of John.

[John J. Davis]

Exactly. That's exactly what it was. I had never seen those pictures before in my life. And every screen had a different episode of my life. And here's what's really interesting, that the Life Review, My guide, Alan, explained to me the Life Review was the greatest teacher of the soul. And the reason for that is when you're watching these screens in your life review, you can feel how your actions affected other people. And when I was in, it was either second or third grade. I don't remember which one. But we were at recess one day, and there was a boy in our class. His name was Troy. And Troy had something wrong with his legs. He had, like, either Ms. Or Parkinson's, but he couldn't walk without crutches. So we're at recess one day, and Troy fell, and I ran up to him. I helped pick him up and helped him. Helped him put his crutches on. It's something that any of us would have done. I never thought anything about that. Well, one of the videos was showing that episode of my life as a little kid. And I could feel how that made Troy feel, that he appreciated that so much that I didn't just ignore him, that I helped him. Well, on the opposite end of that, you also feel if your actions hurt somebody else. And that's what Alan told me. He said that's why it's the greatest teacher of the soul. If you're a soul who intentionally hurt somebody else in your lifetime, you'll feel what that person felt in your Life Review.

[Jonathan Cohen]

This is what Betty said. Buddha Betty. She said she could see both the joy and the pain that had gone through every experience, and she simultaneously could feel that in her own body.

[John J. Davis]

Exactly. That's exactly what it feels like.

[Jonathan Cohen]

You've already Described more than 7 minutes of information. You might say, well, John's a very creative guy, and he's spinning a fantastic tale about what happened when, you know, he had a reaction to anesthesia. But the amount of information that you have returned with, and this is typical of every NDE experiencer, the amount of information that you have returned with does not chronologically fit into the amount of time that you were not on this planet. So we have to conclude that time is not obeying the same rules when you are in this plane of consciousness. Whatever that means is the only way I can explain it.

[John J. Davis]

Yeah, that's exactly correct. We don't have. We have linear time here on the other side. And again, that's one of the things I. I can't explain. They don't have time the same way that we do. And what's really interesting is that if you both live to be 90, when

[Jonathan Cohen]

you pass, we'll be making each other crazy.

[John J. Davis]

Yeah, yeah, my wife and I, too. Yeah, exactly. But when you get back, it feels like you just left. And I don't know how that is possible, but that's what it feels like. So we finished this life review, and he takes me to another building, another beautiful, gorgeous marble. And I don't even know why a lot of the buildings look like marble Greek temples, but a lot of them do. But that's not the other side, the totality. He just took me to a small area of the other side in the best way that I can describe it. It was almost like, you know, when you go to a college campus and you've got your science building, your English building over here, then your math building. That's kind of what it felt like. Like he was taking me to all these different buildings that were on this campus. And wherever it was, it was really busy. A lot of people everywhere. So here's. Here's something else that will blow your mind. So he takes me on the inside of this next building. He showed me the outside of all these buildings first, and then we go to the inside and the inside. He walks me into a room that looks like a theater, just like what we would go to today to watch a movie, but there weren't a hundred seats. There was just one seat. And he said, I'm going to show you past lifetimes. Well, I had to say I had a hard time with that because I was Raised Catholic and Catholics. We don't talk about past lifetimes. It's not a thing. So I had a hard time believing this. So he has me sit down in this seat in this theater, and a movie starts to play. He said, I'm gonna show you three of your lifetimes. So the screen lights up like a movie again, and it's me. I didn't look like I look now, because all of our DNA, our genes, all that stuff is always different, how you look. But I just. I knew it was me. And I was a. I was an elderly gentleman. I had a shaved head. I was wearing a red gown, and I was in a monastery. And my job in that life was to teach young kids how to become monks. And that life took place somewhere in Southeast Asia. And then the screen went blank. He said, I'm going to show you another one. So the screen lights up again and again. It's me, and I'm a man. I have a wooden wheelbarrow, and I'm pushing it down this cobblestone road, and there are all these shoes stacked in this wheelbarrow. And my job in that life was I fixed people's shoes. And that life happened somewhere in Eastern Europe. And then the screen went blank. He said, I'm going to show you one more past lifetime. So the screen lights up and it's me again. And I'm standing in this rickety wooden boat on a lake or an ocean, and I'm throwing a net into the water like this, and I'm pulling it back in, hand over hand back into the boat. And part of my job in that life was to catch fish for the village. And that lifetime happened somewhere in the Middle East. And it was so extraordinary to me because that's when Alan told me that we have been around for eons. We are as eternal as a God is eternal. And if a person wants to have lifetimes, they can. On the other side, everybody still loves to learn. But there are certain things you can't learn on the other side that you can only learn here on Earth or a place like Earth. And the things like that are. Anything that is hard, that is difficult, that's a challenge. Because on the other side, it's a perfect environment. It's a place that God created for us that's full of love and joy, compassion, the exact opposite of what it's like here on Earth. So if a person wants to come into a life on Earth to experience what it's like to get a divorce or to lose a child at a young Age. They have to come here to do that. Because on the other side, there is no negativity. There's no war, there's no hunger, there's no poverty, there's no aging, there's no disease. None of that exists over there. And then I thought, why in the hell would anybody leave the other side to come to a place like it, like this? Why would anybody do that? And he told me, it's because of what you become. It's what you become for having gone through something difficult. And I thought, you know what? That makes sense. Because it's the hard things that we experience that teach us the most. And that was the part of my experience that was the Life review. The next place he takes me to, this one was different. It was a gigantic round building. It was very, very tall. There were white marble columns all around the circle of this building. And there was a big, huge dome on top of this building. And my guide said, this is where we go when we plan a lifetime. Well, I wish that I would have asked him, why do we go here? Why do we go to this building? But I. I didn't think to ask that question.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Well, you were busy being dead, so you were very, you know, occupied with other things.

[John J. Davis]

Yeah, exactly, exactly. And so he takes me, he walks me in, and we walk up to this white marble table. And sitting on top of this table is a scroll, a roundup scroll with a blue ribbon around it. And it looked like it was written on Egyptian papyrus paper, that kind of old looking kind of a scroll. So I, I picked it up and I took the ribbon off and I unscrolled it on or unfolded it on the table. And Alan told me, everybody writes their lifetime ahead of time. They write down all the things they want to accomplish in that lifetime. And it was almost like what we do when we have New Year's resolutions that we fill out at the end of every year all the things we want to accomplish. I want to lose 15 pounds, I want to go back to college, whatever it might be. And we write all this information down. And then what happens when you finish your life? You come back to that building, you get your scroll and you unfold it to see how you did. Well, I looked down to try to read my scroll, and it did this. It folded up again and I wasn't able to read it. And I think the reason was because if I had known some of the things I had planned to learn, I would have done something that would have interfered with that. So I couldn't read my Scroll. I look over to my right and I looked to my right and there was this huge, gigantic wall. It had to be miles long. It was all full of scrolls. And my guide said everybody that was in a lifetime back in 1987 had a corresponding scroll on this wall. So when they finished their life, they come back to this building and get their scroll and look at and see how they did. Well, then I looked to my left, and on my left hand side in this building was this gigantic window, huge, sprawling window. And I looked out and there was a walkway. And this was the first time that I saw all these people. Everybody on the other side. So many people were walking back and forth. It was really busy. And everybody looks just like we do. And what's so interesting is that everybody has a body just like we do. And I have heard other Nders say that we don't have bodies, we're just orbs of light. But that's not what I experienced. Everyone looks just like you and I. Everybody is unique, just as God created every single one of us. So I'm looking at all these people, and on the other side of this walkway was the most beautiful thing I have ever seen. It was a lake, this beautiful round lake. It was so crystal clear, it looked like glass for the water. And have you both ever seen weeping willow trees? Yeah, the ones that go like this. They hang down. All their branches were hanging down and all the leaves were floating on the surface of the lake. And that's when Alan said to me, he said, everything you like to do here, or everything you like to do here on earth, you can also do on the other side. Everything is there. All the beauty, the lakes, oceans, every kind of activity you like to do is all on the other side. Also, before we leave that big dome building, he takes me to another area that looked like a huge library. Have you seen Encyclopedia Britannicas?

[Jonathan Cohen]

Of course.

[John J. Davis]

You know, they're those thick books. And all the books in this library looked like that. And they were all kind of a maroon color, kind of purplish. So he walks me up to a book, and every single one of these books had gold lettering on the outside. And they went vertical. The writing didn't go horizontal, the writing went down. So he takes me up to this book and he has me read the outside binding, and it said, Nina. N I n a Nina. And he told me, nina is your soulmate. Well, I had never heard the term soulmate before. Back in 1987, I had never even heard that term. But he told me When God created us, he created all of us with a perfect mate that we have for eternity. And in this book is everything about that soul from creation. What their gifts are, the different lifetimes they've had, what they've learned. Everything is in these books. And every one of us has a book like that, and every one of us has a soulmate. And I wish that I had known that I had died, and I would have asked Alan, does a soulmate come into our lifetimes with us? Because so many people have asked me, why haven't I found my soulmate? And one thing I like to tell people is that what I learned from my nde, one of the most important things I learned is that it doesn't matter if you don't find your soulmate, because not everybody comes here to get married, to have kids. Other people come for different reasons. And people think that they're. That they failed. If they get to the end of their life and they never had the love of their life or they never had children, it doesn't mean they failed. Just the fact that anybody comes here in the first place, they've already. They're already a success. They've already achieved something extraordinary just for coming here. And I like to tell people that we all have different reasons for being here. There are probably as many different reasons to be here as there are people on planet Earth currently. So that was the soulmate part.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Before we get to the other buildings, I just want to do, like, a little bit of a check in here. The level of detail.

[Mayim Bialik]

Unbelievable.

[Jonathan Cohen]

The level of detail is unbelievable. And you seem like a sane person. I don't believe that you're not a well person. But the level of detail that you experience, just the fact that the writing was vertical, not horizontal, the amount of time it takes for one's brain to receive this amount of information is not seven minutes. There is so much being downloaded, for lack of a better word, like this, the color of the books. I mean, this is a level of detail. Again, we are assuming that this is your recall, right. A lot of people might say, like, oh, he's filling in the blanks. He's making it up. This is your recall. This is reliably what you were experiencing.

[John J. Davis]

And I haven't. I haven't even gotten to the best part yet.

[Mayim Bialik]

We're gonna get to the best part. I'm curious if this level of detail was available to you right away when you came back or if it slowly integrated.

[John J. Davis]

It was instantaneous. I never forgot a single thing.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Okay, keep going. So he takes you to another building?

[John J. Davis]

Yeah. So this. This other building was made of. It looked like stainless steel. Beautiful, beautiful metal building. It looked like a sports stadium. Like we would go to watch football or watch a soccer game. So he takes me to the inside and the inside. The first thing I notice is that there's thousands and thousands of seats in this building. And all the lights are on. It was super bright. And he told me, this is a planetarium. Did either of you go on field trips when you were kids and see planetariums?

[Mayim Bialik]

Yes, absolutely.

[John J. Davis]

Yeah, I did that too. And they show you things on the ceiling. So I'm standing there with my guide, Alan, and this whole building is empty except for one person. There was a person behind me whose job was. He knew everything about astronomy. He knew about the stars, about galaxies, about planets, and he loved to share his information about astronomy.

[Jonathan Cohen]

What did he look like?

[John J. Davis]

I never turned around to look at him.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Did he have a name?

[John J. Davis]

No, he didn't tell me. Here's what happened. He spoke to me and he said, let's begin. All of a sudden, it goes pitch black. All the lights go off. So I sit down and I look up at the ceiling, and he starts to talk to me. And he said, when you look at the stars, this is what you see. And what he was talking about was all the people on earth back in 1987, when they go outside at night and look up at the stars, this is what they know to be there. And our sun showed up then. Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Neptune, Uranus, Saturn, Jupiter. All the planets in our solar system showed up on the ceiling. And then they disappeared. And then he said, when we look at the stars, this is what we see. And he was talking about all the people on the other side at that point. This is what they see, or this is what they know about the universe. And all of a sudden, planet after planet after planet started showing up. First there were dozens, then hundreds, then thousands and millions and millions of other planets.

[Jonathan Cohen]

What they look like.

[John J. Davis]

There were all different kinds. Some of them had like. Like Earth that had water. Other planets were just desert. Some planets were jungles. Some planets were just. It was. It was all kinds of them. And he said, there's far more life in the universe than you can possibly imagine. And I think there were two reasons why they took me to show me this is. They wanted me to tell people that Earth is only one of the planets. We're not alone. There is far more life in the universe than just on Earth. And the other reason they showed Me, this was to tell me that Earth is not the only place you can come to to have a lifetime. There are virtually endless other worlds. And here is something that I want to tell your audience because this will kind of give you a, give them a perspective. Did any of, did either of you ever watch the original Star Trek with Captain Kirk? Yeah, yeah, that's. I grew up on that. I used to come home from school and watch reruns of Star Trek. And I always believed there had to be other planets in the universe. There has to be. How could Earth be the only one? So after my nde, I started doing some research about astronomy. And I learned that in our galaxy, the Milky Way, there are about 400 billion stars. And they think that there are about 100 billion planets just in the Milky Way alone. And now that they have the research from the James Webb Space Telescope, they estimate that there are 2 trillion galaxies in the universe. If every single galaxy has a hundred billion planets, can you imagine how many other worlds there must be? And my guide explained to me that when God created us, he gave all of us as part of our spiritual DNA, the love of learning, the joy of learning. So he created all these other worlds that we can come to, to learn, and we have eternity to do it in. And that was my most favorite part about my nde. So that was the planetarium, I call it the next place he took me to. This was by far the largest building so far. It was so long I couldn't see the end of it. It was beautiful white marble again, but there weren't columns on the sides. The columns were only in the front. And it looked like our Supreme Court building in Washington D.C. it looked like that with all the columns out front and all the steps leading up to it. So we go inside and I notice immediately that it's a library. It's a huge gigantic library. And there are all these wooden bookshelves, probably 20 or 30ft high with books going down as far as you could see. And it was really busy. There were all these people, people were looking for books. Some people were reading, some people were visiting. And he takes me over to the left hand side of the library and there are all these rooms and it looked like the rooms that we could go into a library today, a modern library that has study rooms. That's what these rooms looked like. And they were about the size of somebody's average living room. So we walk up to this one room and there was a woman in there, she had her back to me, she had straight Black or jet black, straight hair down to her waist. She was wearing like a purple gown or a robe of some kind. And she was sitting on the couch and she was watching on the wall. And this was, this was really weird for me.

[Jonathan Cohen]

This was what was weird for you?

[John J. Davis]

Yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right. So remember back in 1987, we had televisions that were those big, huge, gigantic 200 pound monstrosities.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Yes.

[John J. Davis]

You couldn't mount those on a wall. But this lady, this woman was watching what we would call today was a 50 or 60 inch plasma screen television on the wall. And I was blown away because I had never seen anything like that before. We didn't even have them yet. We didn't have flat screen television. So she was watching this. And my guide said, look at what she's watching. So I get closer and I can see that she's watching a battle. And it was between Native Americans on horseback versus the United States Cavalry. And there was this huge battle going on. And I just assumed she's watching a movie. And my guide said, she's watching actual history. And I said, that's impossible. We didn't have video cameras 250 years ago. How could that possibly be recorded? And he told me, everything gets recorded. So on the. And I still don't understand how that's possible, but anything you've ever wanted to learn about in history, you can go to this library, you can go to one of these rooms and you can watch actual history. You can watch the life of Martin Luther King Jr. Or Mother Teresa or Jesus. You can watch anybody's lives and learn about history that way.

[Mayim Bialik]

It's the first reality tv.

[Jonathan Cohen]

It is the first reality tv. I mean, the, the explanation, if anyone's asking, is that when things happen, that information, the fact that it happened, is its own recording. Right. Meaning that information then exists because it happened. Right. That configuration of molecules and all those things that somehow exists in some sort of plane that can be accessed.

[Mayim Bialik]

I mean, yeah, if Earth is for learning, it's not just for the people who have come here, it's for intergalactic learning. Are there TV shows of other planets in the vast array of the universe?

[John J. Davis]

I don't know. I would think so.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Who was the lady?

[John J. Davis]

I don't know. She was somebody who just wanted to learn about that part of Earth's history. When I was in that building where we, where I was doing the Life review. I don't know how it's possible to record a lifetime if there are 8 billion people on this planet, all the things that are going on, especially now politically, how is it possible for every single thing to get recorded? And the only explanation that I have, it's a God thing. It's just something we can't possibly understand at this point.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Well, I mean, and I happen to be a believer, I don't know that I would necessarily place God as part of the explanation. And the notion is everything that exists, there's no way that we'd say there can't be people having as many lives as there are on the planet because we know that they are having their lives. So in that very same way that information is somehow available right in this other plane. I mean, I think just the way that, I mean, we're not even done with the story, we have to get to the meadow. But in this way that we're saying that these are the things that were imparted to you in seven minutes, people, seven minutes. This is the information that was downloaded.

[John J. Davis]

So we leave the library and the next place he took me to was a castle. Just like you would see if you went to England or France, those beautiful stone castles. So he takes me to the inside of the castle and the first thing I notice is there's all this red carpeting on the floor, very opulent, very decorative. And he said this is designed to help you feel what royalty would have felt like on the earth during that time period. So we walk in and I notice on the walls, on both sides of these walls, as far down as you can see this huge castle, there were life size paintings all the way down and what they were, there were life size paintings of people that had lived in that time period in Earth's history, like King George, Queen Anne, all the princesses and dukes and everybody who lived. You could walk into this castle, see what they lived in. You could look at the pictures of them, see what they looked like and what they wore. And in front of every one of these pictures there was a podium. And on top of the podium was a book. And the book was about that person's lifetime. So if you wanted to learn about, say, Queen Anne, for example, you could go to the castle, look at her picture and look at the book and read about her lifetime. Well, right to the right of me, I look over, something catches my eye, I looked to my right and there was a woman who was walking down this stairwell. You know how castles had those round stairwells you'd walk down? She was walking down one of those in this castle and she had strawberry blonde hair to her shoulders. And she was wearing like a peach color, kind of an orange peach gown or something. And she was walking up to me and I thought, oh, crap, I'm not supposed to be here or she's going to kick me out or something.

[Jonathan Cohen]

Good to know there's shame when you die.

[John J. Davis]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. So she walks up to me and she said, is there anything I can help you find? And I said the stupidest thing. I can't. I still can't believe I said this to her. I said, no, thanks. I'm just looking. I could have asked her anything. Like, where am I? Who are you? I'm supposed to be having surgery. What's happening?

[Jonathan Cohen]

Are you Nina? Maybe it was Nina.

[John J. Davis]

And Alan told me, he said, on the other side, this is what she loves to do. She loves to study history. And she knew everything about that era of Earth's history. So if you're on the other side, you wanted to learn about this particular Earth part of Earth history. You can go to the castle, you can look at the paintings, you can read the books, and you could ask her anything. She was like, what we would call a professor of Medieval Europe.

[Jonathan Cohen]

I was going to say, on the other side, what she likes to do is go up to people and ask if they need anything.

[John J. Davis]

Yeah, yeah, that's her job.

[Mayim Bialik]

If someone really likes organizing closets, I would love you. On the other side, I love to

[Jonathan Cohen]

organize every closet in the afterlife I can find.

[Mayim Bialik]

Are there closets to organize? I wonder what mime is going to do.

[John J. Davis]

I'm sure there have to be. I do know this, though. You don't have to wash laundry.

[Jonathan Cohen]

I do like doing laundry. We're going to hit pause here on our conversation with John J. Davis, the man who Died for seven Minutes and Came back. But in part two, he meets Jesus in a meadow. You're not going to want to miss this conversation. John's also going to talk about what it was like to wake up in that operating room and try and piece his life together after the experience he had.

[Mayim Bialik]

He also discusses what he understands about God. Are there aliens out there in different pockets of the universe? And.

[Jonathan Cohen]

And why he doesn't feel so bad that he didn't come back with a superpower.

[Mayim Bialik]

He also goes into detail about life reviews and how they help the soul evolve through this very complicated Earth school. One of the toughest schools in the galaxy.

[Jonathan Cohen]

From our breakdown to the one we hope you never have. We'll see you next time.

[Mayim Bialik]

It's Maya Bialik's breakdown.

[Jonathan Cohen]

She's going to break it down for you.

[John J. Davis]

She's got a neuroscience PhD or two, and now she's going to break down, so break down. She's going to break it down.