Top Lobster (1:57)

I know that we're almost in World War 3. I just don't care that you and everything above that is a disrespect to God.

Clinton Russell (2:08)

I'm somebody that thought I could fix this. And I'm starting to think about having to eat my neighbors. Be damned if I let Top Lobster be the only one canceled. We're all doing it. David, get your phone put down. David. David.

Top Lobster (2:25)

You got any good bids there? David? Is he stuck?

Clinton Russell (2:30)

Oh, this. Frozen.

Top Lobster (2:31)

Anyway, he's dead. That's perfect.

Clinton Russell (2:33)

It's. It's so dangerous.

Top Lobster (2:38)

This is a dangerous show.

Clinton Russell (2:40)

I was trying to save you, man.

Top Lobster (2:42)

Let's open this up. I don't give a. Let's open this up. And we have to be very serious. Like we're talking about dangerous questions. Things that we're not supposed to talk about. So, as usual, bingo, number one, is Ian Carroll gay? We don't know. These are questions that we're asking on this show constantly. David, what's up, man? You're back.

Clinton Russell (2:59)

You're back.

Top Lobster (2:59)

I don't know.

David Corvo (3:00)

I feel like I just went into a time vortex where I got kicked out, came back, and we're doing the same episode as the last one we did. Is Ian Carol gay? I don't. I don't know. It looks like Spectrum just decided to have an outage as soon as our show started, so. Fantastic.

Clinton Russell (3:13)

I can't say this definitively, but the only time I met Ian Carroll, we were in D.C. and he had this. This fly, fly chick that was following him around that seemed like a groupie, so I'm pretty sure homeboy ain't gay. Just if he's.

David Corvo (3:25)

If there's anybody in the conspiracy realm who deserves groupies, it's fucking Ian Carroll. He's the only one that's worthy of groupies.

Clinton Russell (3:34)

You. Dude, I think. I think that we're all worthy of groupies, and I think.

David Corvo (3:37)

No, dude, he's six, eight. Look, you're tall and you're handsome. Clint, but he's six eight.

Clinton Russell (3:42)

No, no, no, no.

David Corvo (3:43)

You isolate a mustache, and then we'll have a conversation.

Clinton Russell (3:45)

Hold on, hold on. It's not. It's not that Ian isn't. Be beautiful, and it's not that he doesn't deserve groupies. I'm just saying don't put him on a pedestal. All right, calm down already.

David Corvo (3:55)

Very tall.

Clinton Russell (3:56)

Just because you're a little, tiny man doesn't mean that Ian Carroll is a God.

David Corvo (3:59)

Hurt me on this show. All right, don't cut me deep. Five minutes into this show. That hurts a lot, and I'll not be reminded of my height.

Clinton Russell (4:05)

Anyway, hey, we have an opportunity here to do something that's never been done in podcast history. We all get to talk like this simultaneously. Are you guys ready?

David Corvo (4:13)

Oh, yeah, it. Hold on one second.

Clinton Russell (4:14)

All right. All right, so I am Clinton Russell. Welcome to Dangerous Retards. I'm joined by a Top of Hamster.

Top Lobster (4:22)

Hello.

Clinton Russell (4:23)

Hello.

David Corvo (4:25)

My name is David Corvo.

Top Lobster (4:28)

Very good to see you. This is coming from my. I honestly, I was just thinking about, like, how angry I was with what Tim Pool did to me, because I was like, did he troll me? Did he not troll us? Like, what's he doing to us? And then I was just like, you know what? We're gonna. This is what he looks like to me. I Don't know if he looks like this to most people, but to me, I just. No, not to you when you see him.

Clinton Russell (4:47)

No, not really. But I still think it's hilarious. So keep, Keep going.

David Corvo (4:51)

I do think it was a personal attack. I think that the reason Tim Pool met with Benjamin Netanyahu was to personally slight Top Lobster. I think that's exactly some people I attribute 5D chess to. But Tim Pool is on like 6,000,000 D chess, where he is, he's. And it's all aimed at Top Lobster.

Clinton Russell (5:12)

I know this, this sounds like you're joking, but I honestly believe that Phil labonte and Tim Pool have become more pro Israel as a consequence of Top Lobster. And I'm not exaggerating. Yes, I honestly believe that.

David Corvo (5:26)

And look to their credit, not the.

Top Lobster (5:28)

Not the millions of dollars being funneled into the show they do every night.

David Corvo (5:31)

Much more important things here.

Top Lobster (5:32)

What are your criticisms? I've given them.

David Corvo (5:34)

I understand it's either bend the knee to Top Lobster or bend the knee to Benjamin Netanyahu. And as far as I'm concerned, they chose the correct one. They both had a good decision.

Clinton Russell (5:47)

All right. So anyways, I guess we're getting into it. For those that don't know, Tim Pool met with Netanyahu about 48 hours ago. He skipped his show with Tim cast IRL, and he went over there and met them on Chatham House Rules, which means that you're able to essentially talk about what transpires at the meeting, but you're not allowed to attribute it to the speaker. For the life of me, I did a whole episode of Liberty Lockdown that came out today on this. I don't know why you would structure a meeting that way. It seems like if you're a journalist, don't you have to cite your sources? And if you're not able to cite your sources, aren't you basically just like one of those New York Times journals who's saying, we have an unnamed source within the White House that says Donald Trump punched a toddler? You know, it's like, I don't know, it's all stitch say here.

David Corvo (6:33)

So the rules read as follows. When a meeting, or part thereof is held under the Chatham House rule, participants are free to use the information received, but neither their identity nor their. Nor the affiliation of the speakers nor that of any other participant may be revealed. May be revealed. So. So it, it sounds like it's. You have to keep it a secret.

Clinton Russell (6:56)

That's the rule.

Top Lobster (6:57)

I mean, but what's the penalty?

Clinton Russell (7:00)

You probably don't get invited back.

David Corvo (7:02)

Yeah. Or if you haven't, you lose your foreskin right there at the table. If they find out that you've tweeted about it or anything else, you have to pull it out and they, they cut.

Clinton Russell (7:11)

Here's, here's my beef with it. This is not. This is not an American politician. This is a foreign politician. I don't know why you need to be having a conversation with a foreign dignitary in private in any sense. In any sense. Like, I don't care if you meet with him. I don't care if you, if you ask him a question, as long as it's all public knowledge, all good. I don't understand, not one, why you would agree to meet to him, meet with him with any sort of secrecy policy or why Netanyahu would require that or expect any American independent journalist to come under those, under those parameters. Like, that's what pisses me off. I, I don't have any problem with him going there and going like, hey, what's. What do you expect the war to end? What's the negotiation process like? He could ask, you know, relatively safe questions and have done his job. But under, under this, you know, structure just fucking screams weird.

David Corvo (8:11)

It screams. The whole thing is weird because, by the way, Top, I think my auto ducking is on him. I think I'm cutting people out. So the whole thing is strange because Clint has been having these. I mean, I'm sorry, Tim has been having these allegations levied against him for a while now. He's been in the trenches fighting this battle against all kinds of anonymous and notable accounts on. On X. And so even, even that alone to then go and do this. It, at the, at the very least screams tone deaf, like he's unaware or some like that. But it doesn't make any sense. I can't imagine that he went into this not knowing that everybody was gonna nail him for, you know, having this conversation. I don't understand what. Typically, I'm really open to speculation, but for some reason, this is so egregious that I don't know what the play is here. I don't know what the move is. I don't know what he's trying to get people to think. Has he said anything about what they talked about? I mean, I know that the whole thing is secret, so I wouldn't be surprised. But has he said. Said anything?

Top Lobster (9:11)

He's made some weird illusions, too. He's like, I've spoken to a ton of, I don't know, politicians like, us, politicians in private, and they like to play poker, and you wouldn't believe. And I was like, but, you know, don't you understand? Like, this is way different. This is what people have been accused. Like, is he really that tone deaf of the accusations in general? Because I don't think he is. It goes back to on Christmas when I was. I said, stop carrying water for the Daily Wire. This is a clear implication of this. Like, the entire time that we were on his show, Clint, this is what we talked about. We talked about the Daily Wire. We talked about Jewish contracts and Stephen Crowder. It's always the same thing with these people. And now it's like, well, here it is, like, kind of like laid to bear. And I don't know what to make of it either. I wish it didn't look the way it does, because what do we. What are we supposed to do now? This is a guy that is, like, you said, like, if it's not like, friendly fire, like, again, I'm not friends with Tim Pool, but he should be, like, a non enemy combatant or, like. Like, he's not an enemy. You know, he's. He's just alongside, and he's fighting.

Clinton Russell (10:17)

He's. He's a civilian on the. In the nation that you're trying to dominate.

Top Lobster (10:22)

You know, he's definitely. He's definitely fighting. He's in the battle, but he's not somebody that I am paired with, but he's not somebody that I'm against. He's just a guy that's okay, like, there. So I don't look at him as an enemy, but, like, different.

Clinton Russell (10:37)

He's in a different battalion.

David Corvo (10:38)

Have you guys noticed that he does this thing occasionally where he will let a rumor about him kind of get to a point of critical mass? And then what he does is once somebody comes out and, like, lays bare the accusation that he. It seems like he allowed the conversation. He never tries to dispute it. And then once it reaches a certain critical mass and it's wrong, then he brings that out, you know, onto Twitter, and he goes, look, you're definitively wrong about me. You said X, Y, and Z. That's 100% not true. And then you go, okay, sneaky.

Clinton Russell (11:05)

It's.

David Corvo (11:06)

It's a little bit sneaky. Yeah. It's like he's setting, and I kind of respect that. I do like that. It's like, let them give them enough rope and they'll hang themselves kind of a deal. That's. That's the angle that he's taking. It's like, allow them to just run rampant with allegations, with rumors and all this. And then he kind of steps out when somebody does get too egregious, and he goes, not the case. And I think what happens is you build up enough of those, but it's.

Top Lobster (11:29)

This is just too far. It's just too much. Yeah, I know what he's doing here because he's going, look at the rules. The Chatham House rules actually say that this. This XYZ is like, nigga, you know what you did.

David Corvo (11:41)

You.

Top Lobster (11:41)

You met this dude in private. This is what it was. It was behind closed. Nobody knows what was really said there. Dave Rubin was there, Molly Hemingway, a couple of other people's like, it looks extremely shady and it's not a good look, especially given the climate, which you of all people understand. You were one of the people that kicked this kind of thing off with Kanye West. You understand what's been going on. You've been warning your guests about, like, a criticism or extreme criticism of Israel for a long time. So if this was coming from somebody who was kind of clueless, I'd be like, all right. I don't know. He understands the game. He knows what he's doing here.

Clinton Russell (12:16)

Well, it. It looks even worse because people like Dave Rubin, you know, you. You guys give Tim Pool a lot of. But Tim Pool is like a moderate on Israel. He really is. Dave Rubin is not. Dave Rubin has gone hard in the paint for the past two years justifying everything that they're doing. And a lot. A lot of Connie, people have been doing the same thing. Tim really hasn't done that. He's just like, I don't want to talk about it. I don't want to give them money or munitions. But at the same time, like, I'm not. I don't want to engage with this. It's obviously. It's obviously a third rail topic that he understands is going to destroy his fucking his business. And he's just like, I don't want to do this. Okay, let's just. Let me. Let me not talk about this.

David Corvo (12:55)

No, no, no.

Clinton Russell (12:56)

Dave Rubin. Dave Rubin goes the other way on it. Sorry.

Top Lobster (12:59)

With Dave with Dave Rubin, with Ben Shapiro, with. I mean, even Steven Crowder up until a couple weeks ago. You know where they're coming from. There is no, like, disillusion. There's no confusion about what they're doing. With Tim, you say one thing and then you do another. And I'm like, this is like, I don't like that at all.

David Corvo (13:15)

I think I know what's happening here. It's like, okay, rewind. Like 10 years ago, and people used to go like, oh, that's. You're being homophobic. You hate the gays. And you're like, I don't hate the gays. I just don't want to see them have sex in the street. And they go, okay, okay, okay. And then something else comes along, and you're like, you know, maybe we shouldn't be giving these kids hormone therapy. And they go, you're transphobic. You hate the LGBTQ community. There's what's. And you go, no, no, I don't. I just don't think they should. And eventually they do it enough where you go, you know what? I do fucking hate the gays. Is that. Is that what's happening here? Is it like, tim, you're a fucking shill for Israel? He's like, no, I'm not a shill for Israel. I just don't really want to talk about it very much. And they go, okay, okay. Hey, that thing looks very much like just a big yarmulke on your head. He's like, no, it's not a big yarmulke. It's a beanie. It's not. You kind of getting those things confused. And he go, okay. And then they. And he goes, you know what? Yeah, I think I am simping for Israel. You know, maybe that's what happens. Maybe we've made a monster. Maybe it's our fault.

Clinton Russell (14:11)

Hold on, hold on. 13. 13 minutes, 15 seconds. 13 minutes, 38 seconds. I need those drops. Those are. Those are phenomenal drops.

Top Lobster (14:19)

I'm gonna bookmark that. When I read his. His tweet, and. Which he's using to defend himself, saying, like. He's like, I'm going to meet with Netanyahu today. Won't be on my show. I was like, this guy's hilarious. It's actually funny to say that. And then to do it, I'm like, oh, my God, I can't believe you would do that. Like, reading it. I read it as humor, but then I don't think anything he says is humorous at all anymore. Like, he's posted two memes in two different fashions, which I'm like, I don't even understand what this means. It's just people screaming. It's a guy at a door with a butterfly, and it's like, is this, like, Project Monarch? Like, what do you. What do you.

David Corvo (14:54)

Oh, the. The meme about generated meme. I don't like it.

Top Lobster (14:58)

I don't get it. I Don't understand his humor. I don't understand the points he's making. I don't even. His other. Like, he is just on a role of doing and doing and saying the worst things that you could do. Like, he's defending this. This other guy. He's defending Carmelo Anthony as well. And I'm like, I just don't understand Tim Pool. But he does this shit all the time. And maybe he does it for clicks and likes and stuff, but guess what, man? It's gonna come with some, like, real accusations.

Clinton Russell (15:27)

I'll tell you. I'll tell you. There's. There's something about this world that I'm in that I don't understand either. Because, like, just. Just to give you an example, Jeremy, from the quartering about a year and a half ago, was lighting Tim Pool on fire over and over and over again. Over this, over him, like, not talking about Eliza Blue. Like, he just wouldn't. He wouldn't talk about it because, like, Tim is more of a straight news guy in commentary in that arena, and he just wants to stay in that lane. Jeremy does more, you know, social commentary and shit like that. And they were, like, at odds. And then Tim just, like, forgets it and is, like, talking about how he wishes his. Him well with his coffee company and shit like that. And I'm just like, not that dude. Like, if you. If you come at me sideways, like, you're forever dead to me. And I don't. I don't accept the. Oh, I was just dragging you because I wanted, you know, clickbait material to help with the algorithmic juice on YouTube. It's like, I'm a human being. So what I'm. What I'm getting at is, like, there is a level of, like, just performative, like, performance, and. And we can do whatever we want. We're all. We're all in the same game. We're just trying to get the most subscribers, most viewers, most live streams, most this, most that, most money and. And everything else is secondary to that. And there's just. I just can't relate to that. Like, I'm like, what? You were. You were mercilessly destroying Tim Pool, and now you're like, buddy, buddy with him. It's just strange. It's strange.

David Corvo (17:00)

Have you ever experienced the phenomenon? And I. I think Top has probably experienced this. So. So, Clint, you. You'll go on the offensive, but you do a lot of, like, blocking people. Like, if somebody fucking annoys you, they just get blocked, and that's the end of the Day. And, you know, you. You care about the information, and so a lot of your back and forth with people is about the information. But sometimes I just drag people, right? And I call them faggots, and I. I get really obtuse with them and. And I will dunk on them mercilessly. And what I've discovered is if I do that long enough, it's. It becomes the horseshoe theory, where I actually come all the way back around to the other side and I'm like, you know what? This guy's not so bad. And I don't know why that happened.

Top Lobster (17:38)

Trial by fire.

David Corvo (17:39)

Yeah. Yeah. It's something about. I think it's like a hazing thing. Like, you bust your buddy's balls. You ever have, like, somebody that you grew up with and you started off adversarial and then they became good buddies with you? I think there is something about just shitting on people mercilessly until you like them. So. So with the whole Jeremy from the quartering thing, if he really is going through this period all those years ago where he's constantly attacking, eventually you kind of, like, you look at the relationship and you go, this feels poisonous. And it would feel better if I liked you.

Top Lobster (18:09)

I want more of it.

David Corvo (18:10)

Yeah, well. And you don't know. So you try it again. You. You would. You attack them more aggressively.

Clinton Russell (18:15)

And honestly, I think what you're explaining is that you're attracted to toxic relationships, and that's fine. I. Generally, I'm not. But look, I'll be the first to admit, yeah, ball busting amongst friends is fine. That's ball busting amongst friends. You don't. You don't have a fucking, you know, a screenshot of me going, oh, and why won't I talk about Eliza Blue? You know? And then. And then do 20 episodes consecutively. Just saying. I'm such a. For not talking about this. Like, there's just. That's not ball busting. Okay? There's something. There's something else.

Top Lobster (18:52)

Yeah, that guy's. I don't. I don't really enjoy his Jeremy.

David Corvo (18:55)

I saw him for the first time. He looks like Shrek. He's a hideous man. He looks all up in the game.

Clinton Russell (19:01)

For the record, I don't have a beef with him. I don't have a beef with.

David Corvo (19:04)

I don't have a beef with him either.

Top Lobster (19:04)

He just looks.

Clinton Russell (19:05)

Just explaining. I'm just explaining the dynamic that, like, these people aren't like me. Okay? That's what I'm trying to get to. Like, we're just different people. I don't understand how they function in the world. And, and the reality is it's like both of them make an insane amount of money talking on the Internet. And I, I just think it warps you. Like at some point you're just like, like you can't be like us, you know? So I don't know. That's my, that's my broad takeaway.

Top Lobster (19:30)

That's what they're doing. They're making money. They're talking about with each other, like Eliza Blue, this, that, that entire thing. Although the interesting part, I feel like they miss. I thought Shane Cashman nailed it with the, the gang stalking. There was something weird going on, but they were talking about just, you know, the latest, whatever kind of with what, what Tim is doing. It's constantly affecting the culture in a huge way. These are people that either we had known, I had known when I first got into this space, or people that are just getting into the space that then will know who I am or who you are. And they're coming through this guy. So now I'm watching this bridge and I'm like, this bridge is owned by Israel or something. Like, it's like, what the fuck is going on? I feel like this bridge will affect my kid's life. Like this is how. And, and people, people are real stupid. I was saying, like, you know, a major influencer met with the president of a foreign country in, in private. And that's, that's fair to say in secret. Whatever, I'll, you know, if you want to argue the semantics, but it was definitely private. There weren't allowed, there weren't phones allowed to be in that room. And we don't really know what was said or who said what. So that is a big deal.

Clinton Russell (20:40)

Keep in mind too, this is a guy who, his military, his, his special forces just blew up a ton of people, ton of people with bomb laden pagers that had been infiltrated into Hezbollah years ago. And they just like let them walk around with these things for fucking months and months. And then finally we're just like, and.

Top Lobster (21:04)

Kink and blow up.

David Corvo (21:05)

And you're, and you're like, he fucking gifted. Trump that golden one. Like, yeah, dude.

Clinton Russell (21:09)

And then, and then you're like, I'm gonna meet with this guy without a cell phone. Like, I'd be scared to death to meet with Netanyahu. Like, I'm not even kidding. Like, this guy is not fucking cool.

Top Lobster (21:20)

I think the question we need to.

David Corvo (21:21)

Be asking is we know that the elites are drinking babies. They're drinking the adrenalized blood of tortured babies. Is Tim Pool now elite enough to split a baby with Benjamin Netanyahu? That's the question we need to be asking.

Top Lobster (21:37)

Now, if I, if I was saying that about, do you think they went.

Clinton Russell (21:39)

Dutch on that baby?

David Corvo (21:40)

So they had two straws and one baby, a wishbone.

Top Lobster (21:45)

See, if I would have said that, that would have been like, very crazy. But I'm just saying, you met, you met with a guy that said that, like his, his agency. This is their slogan. By way of deception, thou shalt do war. This is not good.

David Corvo (22:00)

That's a crazy slogan.

Top Lobster (22:02)

Yeah, and it's like, now, for the.

Clinton Russell (22:04)

Record, it's a great fucking slogan. That's all.

David Corvo (22:06)

It's a great banger of a slogan, but it tells you everything you need to know.

Top Lobster (22:09)

Yeah, if, if I was in the war game, that would be my slogan. Unfortunately, I'm in the T shirt game, so by way of deception, we sell T shirts, but this is just way more nefarious. And I'm like, I don't know what he believed. I don't know what Tim believes. I don't know what Netanyahu would have told him that he'll now believe and now repeat to his millions of people. His, his, his entire audience. Now he's like, sponsored by Rumble. So he's, he's reaching that crew as well. It's like, there's so much wrong here.

Clinton Russell (22:37)

This is the point that I made on my show, is that the most benign explanation is that Netanyahu wants to meet with independent commentators to try and basically soften their stance on Israel, to make it so that when you have an anti Israel guest on which Tim used to regularly, he hasn't so much as of late. Maybe, maybe that's the reason that's like, that's the most benign reason. Because otherwise there's no reason for Netanyahu to meet with you. Him. Like, there's no reason. So he's there to influence you. So you're accepting that influence. That doesn't mean that you will be influenced, but you probably will, because this guy's master manipulator. That's like, what he's there to do.

Top Lobster (23:18)

So one thing I will say, why.

Clinton Russell (23:19)

Are you putting yourself in the line of fire, especially if you're trying to maintain your appearance of independence? Because this, this just seems so detrimental to that. And I just, I can't see an upside. I, I can't.

Top Lobster (23:32)

I. What I will say that that gives me some peace of mind, is like, if BB Said something to Tim that he, that Tim slightly didn't like, he wasn't sure if he'd be like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And he would, like, oppose it and like, push back in like a weird autistic way, maybe, I'm hoping. But again, we don't know exactly what we said.

David Corvo (23:50)

The conversation was like, hello, Tim Pool, it's a pleasure to meet you. Please have a seat. Drink a baby. And that was pretty much the entire thing.

Top Lobster (24:00)

Realistically, what happened?

Clinton Russell (24:01)

Enjoy your baby, Timbu. Enjoy your baby. Are you enjoying Baby on the house?

David Corvo (24:07)

It was a free range baby from Haiti.

Top Lobster (24:10)

I would bet, I would bet that Netanyahu doesn't even really know who Tim Pool is. Somebody that's.

Clinton Russell (24:18)

Netanyahu doesn't even know where the baby came from. Go ahead.

Top Lobster (24:21)

Somebody that's advising Netanyahu is like, you're in the, you're in the United States. These are the larger creators that can get to this meeting because, like, last minute meeting, he's like, bring them. And he's just gonna put out a net of like, you know, Israel is okay. What we're doing is cool. We need more support. And, you know, maybe that net will bring you more support. And that's worrisome because it's like, well, what is, what is this guy really doing? And then you look at the track record from the last two years of this war that's been going on. It's like, it's a, whatever, let's not even say the word genocide. But it's, it's pretty awful. We've, we've asked for ceasefires. We've. We've asked for some kind of peace, some kind of stability to this region. No, they won't have it. And forget about the stuff that they're doing in the United States. Forget about the Talmudic law that they adhere to, which they say, and that law says that, you know, the goyim are trash, which all of America is. Forget about, about all that stuff. What he's doing is pushing another agenda. And, and you're pushing it to somebody who is going to then talk to millions of people the next day. So I'm like, how much is that going to get through? How much is that? Here's a question. How much is Tim's show going to actually change? If he was, if he was or wasn't brought by Israel and Netanyahu, how different would this show even be?

Clinton Russell (25:37)

Well, I don't think he would have on me and Dave and others, Scott Horton.

Top Lobster (25:42)

He hasn't As a matter of fact, it looks like they just, they just. On Dave.

Clinton Russell (25:46)

He hasn't since August. That's true.

Top Lobster (25:48)

And they just. On Dave Smith and the next episode where he, you know, he talked about his meeting with Netanyahu. He had a rabid Zionist on self described rabid Zion. I'm not saying they're going full.

Clinton Russell (26:00)

That's true. And, and he, he's. He's got the. The street reporter that he's got is like self described, basically neocon. Um, and he's like regularly on the show now. So. Look, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe Tim's also very much a businessman. He could be saying to himself, there's almost nobody in the independent commentating space that is. That is. Or not almost nobody, but there's less and less people that are openly pro Israel. And he's just saying to himself, this is my new lane. I'm going here because this is where the money's at. I don't think Tim's that type of guy. But I'm just saying, like, that could be his analysis. It's just like there's a wide open lane here because almost everybody that's like blown up, like, even, even Rogan is not like openly pro Israel.

David Corvo (26:42)

You know, you see the fucking.

Clinton Russell (26:44)

There's a lot of guests on that that fucking eviscerate them.

David Corvo (26:46)

So there was a. I watched the first episode of Kill Tony, which I was told, kill Tony fucks hard. I've never watched Kill Tony and I was disappointed. But it's not in there.

Top Lobster (26:55)

It's hit and miss.

David Corvo (26:56)

Well, well, in their defense, it was the first episode on Netflix and I think the pressure was really on. And it was the most expensive one too, because they've got Shane Gillis there, they've got Tom Segura, they got Joe Rogan. And a lot of these open micrs, you know, that are doing their minute, are fucking stressed out. But there was a point where I.

Clinton Russell (27:14)

Wish I had a Netflix account so I could watch that. Sorry, go ahead.

David Corvo (27:16)

I heard you had too. So what ends up happening is Shane Gillis plays Trump and he's talking about Israel and he's just like, everything we gave you, we gave you our entire government. And it's fucking really. It's actually like a banger of a line. And you look over at Joe Rogan and he is. He's not even laughing. He's just going like, you could. He's got a face on where he doesn't know how to engage with this you know, because it was very, It's. He's just telling you, like, oh, everything that we've done for Israel, we've given them control of our entire government. And it was, like I said, well delivered, a banger. Joe Rogan does not laugh at all.

Clinton Russell (27:52)

I, I honestly, I honestly think that, like, at the highest level of media and influence. And the same thing with Alex Jones. He's backed off on Israel a lot, too.

David Corvo (28:02)

And this guy, actually, he went on a tangent today. I was, when I was looking for. Because we don't prepare for the show, we go, what are we going to talk about? And then I just go through my feed to see what we're talking about.

Clinton Russell (28:10)

No, no, no, hold on, hold on. Let me explain. He has been, he has been talking about Israel a little bit. I mean, you, it's, it's unavoidable, like, over the past 18 months since that war started, you have to talk about it a little bit. I'm just saying, for years and years, Alex Jones talked a hell of a lot about Israel. About 9, 11 and everything else. He was like. And USS Liberty. He, like, he was all over it. And then he got into trouble and he was getting those lawsuits and shit, and he was like, I'm not going to talk about that nearly as much. And it just kind of became a back burner. What I'm saying is, I think at the highest level of influence and money and power in the commentating space, you recognize that, like, if you stay on this trajectory, if you stay on the St. Peters pathway, like, they're going to, they're going to mobilize assets against you. They're going to start. You're like, I'm not even kidding.

David Corvo (28:57)

That's a great way to put it, though. Mobilize assets again.

Clinton Russell (29:00)

I think, I feel like we're going to, we're going to have journalists start to do hit pieces against you. We're going to fucking. Well, maybe you'll have a lawsuit, maybe you'll be set up for rape charges, maybe Russell Brand, you know what I'm saying? Like, I just think that, like, that is real. And a lot of people like Tim, who's just got, you know, married and had his first kid, and he's just like, I don't want to deal with that. Okay. I'm just going to talk about American politics.

David Corvo (29:24)

Yeah, well. Well, I mean, I want to get into.

Clinton Russell (29:26)

But then he meets with Netanyahu and I'm like, all right, this is weird.

David Corvo (29:28)

This thing is like, it's like, like, I Said it'd be smart if you could.

Top Lobster (29:31)

If he. Smart if he could avoid it. Would be smart if he could avoid it. And I get avoiding it, but, like, you just can't. I don't even really. We're doing this show and I've thought about it. I'm like, this show. What do I really. What do I really want to do? I want to tell dick jokes, I want to say the N word, and I want to talk about fucking fallen angels. That's what I want to do. This show will get me in trouble.

Clinton Russell (29:54)

Your list of desires are so awesome.

David Corvo (29:58)

With simple needs.

Top Lobster (29:59)

These are. These are deep desires. Convictions, some would say. But this show, this is the kind of show where it's like, I feel like we got to talk about this stuff. No one's really talking about it. Well, I mean, they are, but not to like, this level. Like, they're not crossing the line of insanity to humor and then also to truth, where you can feel a little more comfortable and talk about this stuff. But it's like, hey, it's there. It's. It. It's gonna always be there. But, like, what. What am I inviting. What am I inviting to myself by. By talking about this?

David Corvo (30:27)

Eventually, nothing good. Nothing.

Top Lobster (30:29)

Nothing good.

David Corvo (30:29)

You'll be celebrated by the people who have no power to protect you from the people who are not gonna like what you're saying and are gonna burn.

Top Lobster (30:36)

I almost, like, I almost pity Tim Pool. Like, one of. One of my friends there, he was on the show right after us on Tim Pool. He's a black dude named man, middle. Middle Maga. That's his. That's his thing. I forgot his real name.

Clinton Russell (30:54)

That dude's cool.

Top Lobster (30:55)

Yeah, but he was like, he's. Hey, you know, Tim seems like a victim of his own success. He set out to do a show. Did it got really big. And now you're. But the concept of your show is to deal with these things, these issues, and now they have come to fruition. Like, imagine if Nephilim Death Squad grew really big and then all of a sudden the Nephilim materialized and we're like, fuck, now we gotta talk about these things. And they're 17 foot giants with, like cannibalistic teeth. And we're like, what do we do? What do we do? Stop the show? And I was like, no, we gotta keep. We gotta talk about it.

Clinton Russell (31:27)

Right?

Top Lobster (31:27)

Yeah, it's. It's dangerous. And.

David Corvo (31:30)

Well, I. I do think that we could be looking at a situation here where Tim Pool, because of how aggressively everybody attacks him, hates the people that are anti Israel so much that he became pro Israel to that degree. So I mean, who knows? But I know we, we have.

Clinton Russell (31:47)

I just, I just want to be very clear. I have a private, I have a personal relationship with Temple and I know for a fact that he does react very viscerally to the hate that he gets about this topic. So like, this is not, this is not performative. It really does bother him. So I honestly do believe, I'm not exaggerating, this is not hyperbole. I believe that Top Lobster has turned Tim Pool into a Zionist, like, or at least, at least, at least a, you know, sympathetic to Zionism because he's just like, he's like all these psychopaths that are constantly in my replies.

David Corvo (32:24)

I respect that. I respect that because there's, there's oftentimes like people will cue me into research that I should be looking into for Nephilim Death Squad and then they'll, they'll go on this campaign about how I'm like a shilling or, you know, I've been co opted or whatever the case may be. And it gets to the point where even though I thought the information was interesting, I'm like, I hate you so much, I'm simply never gonna look at it. So thanks a lot, asshole, because this could be the key to everything, to understand and I'll never know it because fuck you. So if that kind of energy I do appreciate.

Clinton Russell (32:55)

Tim even goes on these rants and he's like, he's like, I think that there's gen genuinely an op to convert people this way. Like he, he thinks that he, he thinks that like, he thinks that like TOP is backed up by bots. He thinks that there's massive bot networks that are boosting Jake Shields and shit like that. And I'm like, yeah, there probably are, but guess what? There's also fucking bots that are boosting pro Zionist accounts. Oh yeah, it's all over the place. This is, this. Let me just make this point. There is a major information war happening. Like major, major, major. And if you think that there aren't bots that are boosting narratives on all sides, you're out of your mind. Like, this is why it's so hard to like, if you get audience captured, if you start to report based off of virality, well then you're, you're toast. You have to ignore that and you have to stick to things that you, that you like, principally matter to you. And I just think that if you get caught up in, oh, I'M getting these, you know, these trolls are making. Just constantly calling me a Zo and blah blah, blah. So I'm going to become a Zionist. Like that's also a mistake. You just have to fucking stay the course. What are your principles? What do you believe in? And it's just very hard. I think a lot of people struggle.

Top Lobster (34:03)

With that and that's where I think. So, like again, Tim would. If he does. I don't even know if he sees my comments or like there's a bunch of other comments, you know, he does.

Clinton Russell (34:11)

He's replied to you multiple times.

Top Lobster (34:13)

Yeah, but I mean, he called me.

Clinton Russell (34:14)

On Christmas Day and we talked about it.

David Corvo (34:17)

Phil Labonte said fuck you, top. That's what he said the other day.

Top Lobster (34:21)

People are retarded because it's like. Yeah, no, they are. They're right in the sense like there is an op on one side where they're pushing a narrative. There's an OP on the other side where they're pushing a narrative. But we go a lot deeper than that. And if you bothered to check out our show. But our show, David, is. It's a, you know, beginner shit. It's like bottom level C list beginner shit. So don't bother looking at it. We're uncovering a mystery that is like fucking from the beginning of time. And it somehow deals with the Jewish people and the, the circumstances around it. It's just like, honestly, it's like good and not good depending on what you believe. If you're an atheist, clown, midget, like, like Philibonte, you don't believe there is a God. You walk around and dry fire your gun in the morning and sing your shitty songs.

David Corvo (35:08)

But there is no God if he walks around. There is in living room.

Clinton Russell (35:14)

There is no God.

Top Lobster (35:15)

If you've lived through 2020 and Covid and the response to it and understand that there's a level of spirituality, understand, understand that there is something bigger than us. Then you have to ask these other more basic questions and go down this rabbit hole. And when you do go down that rabbit hole, you'll see that this has been happening forever. So yes, Israel or the state of Israel, the people that are in it right now. I mean, man, it's almost inherently evil what they are doing, how they have captured this, whatever. Go to episode fucking one through seven and check it out one through eight and you'll hear what, what we've been talking about, about this entire thing.

David Corvo (35:50)

So that is, I've been saying, like, I'm tired of talking about the Jews. But it's like, damn it, man, it is the number one thing that's gripping us now and to tops point has gripped us fucking since the dawn of time, dude.

Top Lobster (36:00)

Since the dawn of time and now time. It's somebody that has such a huge show. To miss this and be like, well, you know, it just must be a bot network is like, you're in idiot. Like, the. The amount of venom that I could spew at you for having such a huge platform and missing something so obvious is like, dude, you can't afford to miss something this obvious or at least, like, investigate it further. And he hasn't done that.

Clinton Russell (36:23)

So can you. Can you share my screen?

David Corvo (36:25)

Can Israel just choose a champion? And then America will choose a champion and then they'll fight it out. And whoever wins, you know, they're going.

Top Lobster (36:32)

To choose a nephilim dog. It's going to be like some kind of giant.

Clinton Russell (36:36)

This is why. This is why shit like this topic, like, no matter how much you want to ignore it, you can't. And this is what drives me nuts. So effective immediately, individuals who engage in anti Semitic behavior, whether online or through physical harassment, will be ineligible for US Visas or permanent residency. The United States will no longer offer immigration benefits to those who promote or participate in anti Semitism. It starts with the immigrants, but it won't stop there. Screening social media for wrong think is un American invasive sensorial garbage. That. That's my response to that. And, like, I just want to, like, make it very clear to people like, this is a. A, it's an issue that's going to increase over time unless you fucking shut it down now. Like, you cannot allow for, like, everyone's like, oh, it's just fucking immigrants. Who gives a shit? Oh, it's just immigrants that were thrown in El Salvadorian prisons and. And Guantanamo without due process, to be indefinitely detained as if they're terrorists, even though some of them are just like, gay hairdressers. It's like, you need to stop this now. You have to stop it now. And a lot of people don't want to.

Top Lobster (37:38)

Well, even if you. This is what happens, Clint. If you even question it, right? This is the video that you posted. I'm not even going to play the sound, but it's. Matt Walsh is like. He's like, I'm a patriot. I like America.

Clinton Russell (37:47)

No, play this out. It's quick.

Top Lobster (37:48)

Okay? We'll be able to listen to.

Clinton Russell (37:50)

I think. I don't remember who tweeted. Someone tweeted something like, if you're an American patriot. It means you're pro Israel or something like that. Yeah, this. This idea that, like, this poor patriotic duty to have this particular feeling about another country, no matter what the other country is. I don't care what country. So that.

Top Lobster (38:06)

That goes. Look at how downtrodden Jeremy is. He's like, this isn't gonna go over well. This is not. This is not what we should.

David Corvo (38:13)

The same thing. Like, if you're a patriot, that means you're by default pro Israel. And they're trying to do that with Christianity, too. It's like, if you're a Christian, you have to support Israel. Like, why the. Is Israel the thing that you have to support if you have support for something else?

Top Lobster (38:27)

This is the problem, Tim. This is what we're saying. It's like, so, yeah, maybe I'm. I'm supported by a whole bot network. Maybe the. There's, like, you know, 10,000 bots liking my. My response. But the reality is that this is happening, and you have a huge platform and you have not addressed it adequately. Whatever. Let's. Let's watch this.

David Corvo (38:46)

I do think that there is something.

Clinton Russell (38:47)

Patriotic about supporting our allies because we.

David Corvo (38:51)

Form alliances because it's in our national interest. Interest to form alliances, and having formed those alliances and.

Clinton Russell (38:56)

And, yeah, but you don't have a.

Top Lobster (38:58)

You don't have a patriotic.

Clinton Russell (38:59)

You don't have a patriotic duty to support any country.

Top Lobster (39:04)

Look at Ben just like, he's like, I hope he says the right thing here. Right? It's like, what the hell?

Clinton Russell (39:09)

But, you know, in this case, we.

Top Lobster (39:11)

Just should back Israel. All right, the last part is probably clipped out of context where he laughs, but the rest of it is like, he's watching, and he's like, say what? Say the right thing. Be careful. Like, be careful with that. What the Are we talking about here, man?

Clinton Russell (39:27)

Well, this. This is the whole rule by deception thing that drives me nuts. And this is where even though I say it's like, it's a badass slogan, I don't. I don't appreciate it when it's being utilized against me. And Ben Shapiro has lied through his teeth throughout his career saying, I'm not advocating for Israel above America. And then when the war pops off, he goes, look, if. If Israel falls, they're gonna, you know, bigger war, launch nukes, blah, blah. So we got to send the material aid. We got to do this and that. It's like, oh, so you did actually believe that all along. You do. You do want them to receive munitions and financial assistance from the Americans So just be honest. Like, if you were just honest, I wouldn't really have a problem with it. Like, I would disagree. I would disagree vehemently, but at least you would still have my respect. Like, you're Jewish. You believe that Israel's, you know, survival is probably paramount even to the United States because you would just move to Israel if the US Fell. And it's like, okay, fine, that's your perspective, but you better be honest about it. Don't you run around with some America first mantra. Don't you run around with make America great again. Like, no, that's not your thing. That's not what you're about. And I think that the duplicate, the duplicitousness is what really bothers me.

Top Lobster (40:42)

Yeah.

David Corvo (40:42)

Isn't there a ton in the Talmud about deception and whether or not you're allowed to deceive and who you're allowed to deceive? It's like, obviously you're allowed to. Obviously you're allowed to deceive the goyim, but you're not allowed to deceive other Jews. And, you know, there's like, the whole. A whole thing about lying and deceiving in order to get what's beneficial for. For you and other Jews. And then you watch that get sort of rolled into. What was the expression, Clint? Deceive and what it was like war.

Clinton Russell (41:10)

War by deception is basically the general idea, huh? Yeah.

Top Lobster (41:13)

I mean, they have the same. There's a similar concept in. In Islam as well. It's called takia. It's like, just basically you can lie to somebody outside of the religion if it furthers your goals and whatever. I get it. I get what you're doing. But, like, when I'm the guy that's being lied to, I feel like I take it a little personally and we need to, like, step back and say, well, what are you doing here?

David Corvo (41:35)

I think we need to send Stu Peters to Israel, and then he's going to solve this whole kind of debacle that we're in.

Clinton Russell (41:41)

Dude, that guy's like, literally calling for war against Israel now.

David Corvo (41:44)

Is that what he's doing?

Clinton Russell (41:45)

Yeah.

David Corvo (41:45)

I mean, we could arm him. He's a pretty big guy. He's kind of jacked, too. We could send him over to Israel. He'll fuck up Benjamin Netanyahu.

Clinton Russell (41:52)

I think what. What rubs me the wrong way is that, like, I'm a big fan of, I guess, tactical thinking. I love, like, Sun Tzu's the Art of War, but there's, like, there's just Something about honor amongst enemy combatants. You know, like, it's like you don't commit war crimes. You know, like, if. If your enemy falls and he throws up the white flag, you take him hostage. You don't execute him, you know, like. And there's just this. There's this difference, and I think this kind of boils down to. To cultural differences that, like, I have honor even in the heart of battle, you know, and a lot of these people don't. And I don't know how you maintain, you know, respect for somebody like that when you know that, like, if you were to fall in battle and throw up the white flag, that they would, like, you know, it's wild.

Top Lobster (42:45)

Oh.

David Corvo (42:45)

I mean, that's who you. Who you want and your greatest ally, right? Super deceptive, cutthroat motherfucker.

Top Lobster (42:52)

Super. See, I just. I don't even want to talk about this anymore. It's just like, it's always the same thing, and nothing ever changes. It's constantly in the news. I have to deal with it, be gaslit by it, and I can't even enjoy my favorite shows that are airing on Netflix anymore.

David Corvo (43:08)

I've been having a perfectly good time enjoying my favorite shows. I'm also balls deep into love on the spectrum. I'm very invested. I also am suspicious of it because at a time where we've been tearing apart the telepathy tapes, I realize there's, like, this massive push for normalization among the autists. I mean, even in the language that we use on. On X on Twitter, something has. Has changed. Where. I don't know if it's because autism is at such a critical mass that you have no choice but to embrace it on some level. So time to make content. Time to represent them on the big screen. But I don't know. It. It seems like there was a time where we were horrified by autism, and now it's like we're. We're watching them smooch. You know what's weird about we're watching them? We're watching.

Top Lobster (43:58)

You know what's weird about our season is that.

David Corvo (44:00)

Well, what's weird to me about it is what are we watching? Or rather, what are we doing when we're watching this?

Clinton Russell (44:08)

We're watching retards Go to Pound Town.

David Corvo (44:10)

Yeah. And I'm cool with that, but, like, we're.

Clinton Russell (44:14)

No, I'm not.

David Corvo (44:14)

I mean, I'm cool with watching Go to Pound Town. My thing is they. They set them up so you'll see the producers, they'll do something where they're like. They'll show you something that happened behind the scenes that, like, obviously the autistic guy never intended for you to see. So let's say, for example, the autistic guy is trying to figure out how he's gonna come about in his scene. And he goes, well, what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna. I'll come in, I'll walk off from the side of the camera. And then. And then. And then. And then what I'll do is I'll say this, I'll say this, I'll say this, and then. And then you say this, and then I'll say that. And they go, okay. And then they keep that whole thing in there, which is not what the autist intended. What I'm getting at is they are. They're giving it to you in a way that's comedy. They want you to laugh at these retards. And that's fucking weird to me because I'm like, I know. That's why I set out to watch this. But I don't know, is it okay that you're presenting it that way?

Clinton Russell (45:06)

I'm supposed to be a bad person. You're not supposed to be a bad person. You're supposed to be putting this on because you're like, I want to fucking normalize, you know, dating amongst retards. And we're supposed to tune in to laugh at it. But if we're all laughing at it, then it. Then it seems cruel.

David Corvo (45:22)

There's a cruelty aspect. This. This too. Tim swims in Israel's cum pool, says sexy Downies all of a sudden, which is like, yeah, they keep doing that too, right? They're like, look at this one. You want to fuck this one, don't you? You want to fuck this one, you dirty bastard, don't you?

Clinton Russell (45:36)

That is. That is the weird aspect of watching that show is you're like, every new, like, female retard that comes on the screen, you're like, would I?

David Corvo (45:45)

And there's a couple of them where you're like, yeah, yeah, sure, that's fine.

Clinton Russell (45:49)

And then. Then you find out, like, their personality is just insane. You're like, well, top.

Top Lobster (45:54)

Who's.

David Corvo (45:54)

Who's your favorite artist on the show? I'm going to judge you heavily based off of this.

Top Lobster (45:58)

My favorite O'Connor, which was.

David Corvo (46:00)

O'Connor is the really polite one, right?

Top Lobster (46:02)

He's. He talks like this, and he has, like. Sometimes he has a British accent, and then sometimes he doesn't.

David Corvo (46:08)

I like him. Yeah. Yeah, I like him. A lot. He's.

Clinton Russell (46:11)

He's the one with the smoke show sister, right?

Top Lobster (46:13)

Yes.

David Corvo (46:13)

Yeah.

Clinton Russell (46:14)

Yep.

Top Lobster (46:14)

Oh, no, no, no, no. Tanner is. The smoke show says Tanner's the one that asks a lot of questions. He's a little annoying.

Clinton Russell (46:20)

Yeah.

David Corvo (46:21)

I forget which one Tanner is. I know the other one has, like, a homeboy.

Clinton Russell (46:25)

Homeboy with the top ramen hair, though. Who.

David Corvo (46:27)

I don't like him.

Clinton Russell (46:28)

I. Dude, I. This is what I want to talk about, okay? Because. Yeah, I am. I am. I've gone hard in the pain against homeboy for years now.

David Corvo (46:35)

Really?

Clinton Russell (46:36)

Since the. Since the first moment I saw him on tv. And I'm like, this is one of those tards that fucking has a samurai sword. And then it's like he goes to his bedroom and he, like, pulls out the samurai sword. Yeah, this dude. Dude.

David Corvo (46:47)

Hey, by the way, Top bought me that shirt.

Top Lobster (46:51)

I did.

Clinton Russell (46:51)

Right?

David Corvo (46:52)

Literally bought me that. My wife and I are watching Love on the Spectrum, and we go, that's the shirt that Top got you and I. And then I'm forced to go, did he do that on purpose? Did he get me the fucking shirt that the. That the retarded guy that I hate wears on the. Oh, my God. I think he did.

Clinton Russell (47:07)

That shirt is insane.

Top Lobster (47:08)

It's a great shirt. The problem with this guy's shirt is that it's buttoned all the way to his throat. That's insane.

David Corvo (47:13)

Do that.

Top Lobster (47:14)

It's got to be.

David Corvo (47:14)

You got to show chest.

Clinton Russell (47:15)

Yeah, no. If you don't show chest in that shirt, you're a literal psychopath. And this guy is. And this is what I don't like about it. And he's just like. It's so obvious that he's abusive towards his parents, and his parents are just like. They're just like, oh, you know, we love you so much, and we just hope that you can get a wife so you can get the. Out of our house, you piece of.

Top Lobster (47:32)

Yes.

Clinton Russell (47:32)

Yeah.

Top Lobster (47:33)

Now, the best thing about his parents is that, like, I love the. When you. When you watch this. Watch the interaction. His parents have dealt with his shit for so many years that they're just done with it. Yeah, mom. And they'll do shit to, like, poke them. And when they poke them, it feels like I'm watching an episode of the Office. Because they'll say something, and they'd be like, james, maybe put some shoes on, you know, something to cover your toes. And he goes, oh, I just. And then they look at the camera and they go, yeah, right.

Clinton Russell (47:59)

Yeah, you guys. Right, bro. You Your analysis of this is so spot on. His parents, like, his. You're right. Like, they have. They've basically become so callous to his abuse, you know, because he's so abusive towards them that like. But then now, now the only joy they have in life is to kind of needle him. Like, just, just ever so slightly. They're like, hey, could you do this? And then he goes like, fucking mom.

David Corvo (48:25)

You know, he doesn't. He goes. He does a lot of. I want to see, you know, what they made a super cut of Macho Man Randy Savage. And all he's doing is breathing. I want to see a super cut with this dude because all he's constantly like, oh.

Clinton Russell (48:40)

I don't know, he's like. He's like a Jewish macho man, Randy Savage.

David Corvo (48:44)

He really is, dude. And I don't. What I don't understand is if you have an autistic kid who is seemingly constantly on the edge of exploding with rage, because that's the impression that he gives me, why would you allow him to have the most extensive sword collection I've ever seen?

Clinton Russell (49:00)

Oh, dude, you got to play this. Turn the volume up, please. You know? Yes. Yeah. Damn it.

David Corvo (49:12)

Fat, huh?

Clinton Russell (49:12)

Not too long. Surely you will not need a fully functional, double edged sword.

Top Lobster (49:28)

He's. This guy is. He's probably the worst person on this show. Like, just. I don't know how he functions at all.

David Corvo (49:35)

But a fully functional, double edged sword.

Clinton Russell (49:38)

If. If I had to choose between meeting with James from Love on the Spectrum and Bibi Netanyahu, it'd be a tough call. Like, I don't know who I'm more like. I. I really don't like either of them. That's a terrible, terrible scenario to be part of. Maybe that's why Tim went. Maybe he was given those options.

David Corvo (49:55)

Just think about this though, because I've come to the conclusion that the vaccine schedule is an extension of the MK Ultra program. So. So. So you have. You. You've poisoned these kids and you've made them victims of their own body and you've made them retarded. And then you parade them out onto Netflix in front of millions of people. And then you. You present it in a way that's like we're meant to laugh at these kids, but I'm not going to say it out loud. That's. That's the thing that they've done here. They've taken kids, they're victims of this shit, and now we're laughing at them.

Top Lobster (50:27)

What they've also done. This is why I wanted to bring this up because it ties back into the telepathy tapes again with obviously the autism and stuff like this.

David Corvo (50:34)

And the Jews.

Top Lobster (50:35)

And the Jews. Yeah, he's definitely Jewish. One of the episodes towards the end, the. I forget their names. It's the. He's like the fat. The fat dude and he's dating the other girl. Oh, yeah, animals. They like going to Africa. I forget their names.

David Corvo (50:49)

Yeah, yeah. They almost seem like the healthiest couple of.

Clinton Russell (50:52)

Dude, I hate that chick, though.

Top Lobster (50:53)

She's there. Yeah, I don't like. I don't like them. And these are autistic people, but I don't. I don't like their personalities, but they're. I think they're also just very childish and kind of like very slow.

Clinton Russell (51:03)

You're right. You're right. Like, it doesn't make me a good person to hate her because she's. She's obviously like a 12 year old mentally, but like, I don't like her. Okay. Yeah, I don't like her. She's. She's mean. She's mean to her big fat doofus boyfriend and she's just like, let's go to Africa. I'm just like, I. I don't have any patience for this.

Top Lobster (51:21)

So anyway, there's a point where they're talking about something like numbers. And she just names a number and then he correlates it with a color.

David Corvo (51:31)

And they put on.

Top Lobster (51:32)

Yeah, they put on display that this guy has extreme synesthesia. Like they're just going, 9, 7, 8, 15. And he's like, pink, blue, red. And it's just like they. They make that point a couple of times. And I was like, it's interesting that they're talking about that right now. This idea of synesthesia. And then there's another couple, a new couple. This guy with the cowboy hat. Super cool, cool dude. And his thing is perfect pitch. So he's like a DJ and. Oh, right, they were on a date. Yeah. And. And the girl's like, how about this song? And he's like, C flat. How about this song? C flat would be B actually. He's like, you know, F sharp. And he just knows it right off the bat. He's think. He thinks of the song and then he's able. He even says he's like, oh, that starts in the key of A and then goes to the key of B.

David Corvo (52:17)

Like, he knows that same guy. He first meets her parents. Like, he comes into the house and he's like, pleasure to meet you. Pleasure to meet you. He gives everybody A hug. And then aggressively makes out with their daughter in front of them, standing up in their kitchen. And they're all like, dude, I was.

Top Lobster (52:37)

Me and. Me and my wife were literally watching this screaming. It was not like laughing, like scream. I had to put my head under the pillow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've never experienced this level.

David Corvo (52:50)

I was covering my wife's head and face and she was curled up in a ball on me and we were just screaming.

Top Lobster (52:56)

It's the greatest show on earth. It really. It's the greatest show ever made. I've never felt this way before and this show has me.

Clinton Russell (53:04)

It's the greatest show on earth. Other than James. I. Every time he's on the screen, I'm just. I'm mad.

David Corvo (53:09)

He makes me mad too. I think he's evil. Did you see the part where the. The. The best looking autist got really upset because her boyfriend wouldn't fuck and she started crying. She started crying because he's like, who's.

Clinton Russell (53:23)

Who's the best looking artist?

David Corvo (53:25)

I don't know what her name is.

Top Lobster (53:26)

He's about to fucking expose himself here right now. I know you're talking about.

David Corvo (53:29)

You know who I'm talking about, right? I think she's the best looking autist. And she's also kind of like almost. Not almost normal, but the more normal of them.

Top Lobster (53:39)

She's the girl that likes animation. She's like, animation is very important to her.

David Corvo (53:43)

Can you pull her up top? I don't know if you can.

Clinton Russell (53:45)

You think she's the best looking? Interesting? I know.

David Corvo (53:47)

I think she might be the best looking.

Clinton Russell (53:49)

That chick is such a. She's like. She like has this, this date with that one dude in season one or two and. And they're like. They hit it off so hard.

David Corvo (53:56)

Yeah.

Clinton Russell (53:56)

And. And then she's just like. And she's like, I love you. I. And he's like, I love you. And. And then she's just like, I don't think that you like animation enough.

David Corvo (54:06)

That's her big face. She's got a big face there. That's not really the best.

Top Lobster (54:09)

I don't think you like animation enough.

Clinton Russell (54:11)

That's what.

David Corvo (54:12)

I don't think you like.

Clinton Russell (54:13)

That's what she did. She broke homeboy's heart. She's just like, I don't think you really love comic books. Like I do.

David Corvo (54:18)

You know, she broke the dude. That dude's heart because she goes, you know, she wants to. And he goes, well, I can't do that because it's against my religion. And I'm gonna save myself for marriage, which is, you know, based. And. And she is now faced with that, dude. She.

Top Lobster (54:35)

She.

David Corvo (54:36)

She falls apart and she starts sobbing and then literally terminates the relationship, I think. I don't know if I. I didn't get that far in the series, but it seems like they're now gonna break up because whatever is going on with this, she's. You're all, thank you, Xerox. She is fully. All she wants to do right now is. And it's super crazy. And that is end all, be all, like deal breaker if you can't.

Clinton Russell (54:58)

The other thing that's crazy about that broad is that she's constantly getting fucking lit on. On the dates before the dates, she's just like. With her and her mom, they just take shots of tequila and she's just like, dude, it's just like fucking lubing up a tard and just send them into the wild to go get. Like it's crazy behavior.

David Corvo (55:13)

It's one charge for God. And she's not.

Top Lobster (55:15)

I don't know. I don't know how it, like, overlaps with what we're even talking about, but it does somehow. It's like. It does. Yeah. I'm looking at both of these things.

Clinton Russell (55:23)

This show is called Dangerous Retards. We're talking about Dangerous Retards.

David Corvo (55:26)

This is about Jews, blacks, and retards on this show.

Top Lobster (55:29)

And Speaking of retards, $20 from the peepee Poopoo Man.

David Corvo (55:33)

Shout out Peepee Poopoo Man.

Top Lobster (55:35)

Start to go fund me to get Toad on Love on the Spectrum. Also, what up with the NDS Patreon? It's all Streamyard links and shit. More kisses by. I don't know. I'll deal with it later. This. No, no, it's. You guys are just retarded. You don't have to use this stuff. But we've been trying to get on.

Clinton Russell (55:49)

I just got to say, we have tried for over a year now to get Toad on Love on the Spectrum. We also tried to get him to debate Bobby Kennedy, which he had an opportunity to do at one point. Toad does not want to succeed in life, okay? So stop telling us to do things we've tried. Endless.

David Corvo (56:05)

He really half assed his. His submission too. He just said, like, I win the fucking costume contest every year. They're like, that's a prerequisite to being on this fucking show. Every single artist on this show wins the costume contest.

Clinton Russell (56:15)

And he just like. He just like, cold. Cold emailed them that.

David Corvo (56:19)

Yeah.

Clinton Russell (56:19)

Which is like the most autistic thing you can do. It wasn't even like. It wasn't even like an application form. He's just like, I win all of the Halloween costumes every year.

David Corvo (56:29)

And, you know, they don't actually get those kinds of emails because all of the autists have handlers and the handlers are doing the emails.

Clinton Russell (56:35)

Exactly.

David Corvo (56:35)

So, yeah, they're like, oh, this one slipped through the cracks. Can't fucking. You know, it's like, what are you supposed to do? Reach out to the artist that reached out to you? Like, no, Give me your. Your owner's number.

Clinton Russell (56:46)

I am.

Top Lobster (56:47)

Yes.

David Corvo (56:48)

Shout out peepee poo poo man.

Top Lobster (56:49)

All right, perfect. All right, let's. Let's move. Let's move on to something.

Clinton Russell (56:52)

Yo, run that. Run that Bieber clip, if you would, because this actually ties into my take on Tim Pool and all the other influencer cast just before we.

Top Lobster (57:01)

Yeah, all right, let's see.

Clinton Russell (57:04)

So Justin Bieber obviously was at one point the biggest pop star probably in the world. Yeah, or top three, for sure.

David Corvo (57:12)

He's still, you know.

Clinton Russell (57:14)

Yeah, no, he's still super famous, but, like, in terms of music, he hasn't had any hits in a long time that I'm aware of. So this is him yesterday.

Top Lobster (57:25)

Doesn't even look like him.

David Corvo (57:35)

Get out of here.

Clinton Russell (57:36)

Okay.

David Corvo (57:37)

Get out of your money. It's all you care about, money. All you care about, guys, it's money.

Clinton Russell (57:43)

You don't care about people.

David Corvo (57:45)

Only money.

Top Lobster (57:46)

Only money.

Clinton Russell (57:48)

No people.

David Corvo (57:49)

You don't care about human beings.

Clinton Russell (57:51)

Go, go, go. All right, that's good enough. So I think, you know, there's been this, this. This trend of watching, like, child stars as they degrade and people, you know, feigning concern for them. And when it comes to Britney Spears, she's always like, she. She genuinely looks like she's in trouble. Like, she's doing really Britney Spears, dog.

David Corvo (58:13)

Excuse me, you never seen that video where the. The face tether. So. So whoever is pretending to be Britney Spears, I don't know if it's every video, but in one video in particular, the AI face untethers. And in one frame, there's two totally different there. There's Britney Spears. That's offset. And then there's just some other clearly discernible that's been wearing her face.

Clinton Russell (58:36)

All right, well, I. I'll have to go down that rabbit hole another time. But what I was trying to get at is like, well, yeah, maybe I won't, but Britney. Assuming that that's actually Britney. Jesus Christ. She's Obviously, she's obviously dealing with serious mental health issues. And everyone's like, I saw that video yesterday of Bieber and people are like, he's not long for this world. How tragic. And I'm like, I think that he's doing fine. You know, he's, he's shoeing, he's shooing away paparazzi, saying, you're only interested in money. You don't care about people. Like, that's true. That's what paparazzi are. I mean, yeah, he looks, you know, pretty rail thin and he's probably doing.

David Corvo (59:12)

Drugs, but, like, he's always been a skinny kid, though.

Clinton Russell (59:14)

Yeah, that's true too. Anyways, point being, like, com. Compared to other child stars, Bieber still seems to be keeping his together relatively well. And I think that the truth is, is that like, these people are almost, almost universally abused in vicious ways. And particularly given if the allegations against Diddy are true, which many of them seem to be true. Bieber's relationship with him when he was 15, 16, like the, and, and also Usher, like, the odds that Bieber made it through this entire process without being abused is like a 1% chance. So I don't know. I'm just saying I have sympathy for these people. Anyways. The point that I'm trying to get at is like, then once you see these people who were child stars and the most famous and rich people on the planet, and then they get into their 30s and their. The kind of stardom starts to diminish a little bit, and then you see them lash out in certain ways. I just have a lot of sympathy for it because it's like, these aren't, these aren't normal people. And this is kind of. I just wanted to tie that into what I said about Tim and, and Jeremy and all these other guys. Like, at some point, you just can't be a normal guy anymore. Rogan's a good example of this. Rogan is like, as normal as you can be for being one of the most famous people on the planet. But that doesn't mean he's normal. It just means he's, he's, he's doing a good job of staying as close to being a regular guy as he can.

David Corvo (60:32)

You ain't never seen that video of fucking Justin Bieber sucking off Odell Beckham Jr. In the club.

Top Lobster (60:37)

Yeah, I seen that. That's sad. But I mean, who hasn't, though?

David Corvo (60:40)

You know, who hasn't said, nah, I hear you.

Top Lobster (60:43)

The reality, like, are you, are you even a normal dude? Like, when did you remember the time we were at the. The restaurant? It was right before I went to Jamaica. We met you guys, you, Josie. I think Jose was there, and there were other people, and we were at some restaurant. You did a libertarian event. And.

Clinton Russell (61:03)

Oh, yeah, we.

Top Lobster (61:04)

We were all talking, and then I looked over at the table next to us, and the people were like, is wrong with these people? Because, like, is she. You know, Josie's saying, oh, yeah, I was just followed by Elon Musk. And, like, we're talking about this and you're talking about, like, I don't know, some other. We're not leading normal lives either. So, like, I sort of understand, like, I don't relate to a lot of people that aren't in this space because I'm doing something different. Like, we're doing something very weird.

Clinton Russell (61:31)

Yeah, no, look, that. That. It definitely makes us different, but it doesn't make us, like, not. It doesn't make us not relatable. Not. Not still kind of down to earth. My point is, like, once you get to a certain level of fame where, you know, Rogan goes anywhere and it's like, oh, yeah, he's going to have hundreds of people approaching him. I've. I've been recognized in public, like, five times. You know, I get recognized at political events all the time. But in terms of just, like, generally in public, very rarely do people ever, you know, approach me and talk to me. So. But I'm saying I still get to maintain a normal lifestyle. Rogan, Bieber, Britney Spears, like, those days, it's over. Tim Pool, too. I. I go. I go to the casino with Tim, and it's like, maybe one person will recognize me, but you're gonna have six or seven or eight that recognize Tim. And it's just. It's just. There's levels to this.

Top Lobster (62:19)

We'll take the beanie off.

David Corvo (62:20)

That's what I was gonna say. Dude, if he takes the beanie off, nobody's gonna know.

Clinton Russell (62:23)

If he. If he just put on a hat like this, I think he'd probably get recognized way less.

David Corvo (62:27)

Nobody cared who I was until I put the beanie on.

Top Lobster (62:29)

I'm just saying, like, at the level that you're at, you. You understand how different, like, your mindset is in comparison to, like, other people, what they're talking about, what they're thinking about. So just imagine, like, a million levels above what you're doing, right? Like Justin Bieber. Like, I can't even imagine what kind of life this dude is living. He's never even lived the Normal life. So for him to be behaving, basically.

David Corvo (62:54)

Handed him off to the industry, you know, because you can't. You simply can't. What I've gleamed is once your kid becomes a superstar, so much of it is like, okay, I guess you're gonna go with your management team and, and they're gonna take you on this one and mom will be here when, when you come back kind of a deal. You know what I mean? And it's like, then this kid just gets whisked off into the hands of. Of predators. And I don't just mean sexual predators. I mean, Hollywood is filled with opportunities, deals to cut and like that. And all of a sudden you're the kid with everything that somebody wants and they're trying to cut deals with you. They're this kid over left and right. What I'll say is the video that we just watched, very mild. I think he seemed fine, maybe a little bit thin. But I mean, you know, he's. He's always been on the thin side. He's faring a lot better than he should have. I think if he was spiraling like a Britney Spears or her AI double whatever, and he was shooting videos with him, holding butcher knives and, and doing dances, and I'd be like, yeah, that tracks. That makes a lot of sense.

Clinton Russell (63:54)

He's 10. He's 10 or 15 years stronger than her. So you gotta. You gotta give it time. He could definitely lose his. By the way, David, you know how you tweeted a couple days ago? You said, I stay be using words that I don't understand and hoping that nobody notices.

David Corvo (64:05)

Yeah.

Clinton Russell (64:06)

What you just said a minute ago, and you've done this on every episode that we've done so far. But you said I've gleamed. It's gleaned. Gleaned.

David Corvo (64:14)

It's not gleam. No, like, should be gleaming. Like.

Clinton Russell (64:17)

Yeah. So glean means to extract information from various sources. So you have gleaned this.

David Corvo (64:23)

I'll not change it.

Clinton Russell (64:24)

No, that's fine. Hey, hey. Stay gleaming, homeboy.

David Corvo (64:28)

I don't get baby fucking stay gleaming. Unbelievable. Yeah, I do that. And I don't think you notice. What I'll say is, Clint, you think you notice when I use words that I don't know the meaning of. And I think that 90 of them go over your head. Because I'm that good. Listen, that's the vast majority of words that come out of my mouth. I don't know the meaning of.

Top Lobster (64:45)

On this idea of like. Like a Justin Bieber, like, I can't we can't really relate to his life and what he's been doing. This dude here, same concept. Mr. Beast. I cannot relate to this person's life and what he's doing. I can only speculate as to what the. This is and what we saw something from it.

David Corvo (65:06)

He's got, like, running. I don't know if you want to call him Bets, but, like, there's money on the line if you don't leave this dark room for, you know, a year or some crazy thing. Like, he's doing all kinds of challenges with people where he's putting them through really harrowing. Is that one harrowing? And.

Clinton Russell (65:24)

And you got that one right.

David Corvo (65:25)

That was.

Top Lobster (65:26)

Right.

David Corvo (65:26)

Okay, I don't know if I pronounced it right, but he. He's become so rich and he's got so much influence that he's now treating people like science experiments for a cash prize here.

Clinton Russell (65:38)

I got. I got to point this out because you guys are probably too young, but in the 90s, there was these. These B movies. When you guys were little, tiny babies. There was these B movies that, like, was constantly, you know, hunting humanity for, like, money. And. And I swear to God, Mr. Beast has made his entire living off of, like, reformulating that in a way that's not lethal, but essentially just testing the bounds of human. Human capacity and morality to see what they'll do for money. Like, that's. That's what he's done. And guess what, ladies and gentlemen? His name is Mr. Beast. And that's exactly what the devil does to you. The dev. The devil tests you. They say, you know, you have. We'll give you these rewards and this and that. All you have to give us is your soul. Mr. Beast does that professionally to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars in his bank account. It's concerning. And I say this is now not a religious bargain. Yeah. And I say this is not a religious zealot. But I'm just telling you, what he's doing is pushing the bounds of, you know, good and evil.

David Corvo (66:41)

He's got a kid right now on a challenge hanging upside down for 72 hours. If he can make it to 72 hours, and he gets, like, $500,000. But last I checked, I think he's actually dead.

Clinton Russell (66:51)

Exactly.

David Corvo (66:52)

Dude.

Top Lobster (66:53)

All I said was, like. I was like, dog, this is not good. And people, like, what do you mean by that? Like, like, this is perfectly fine. Like, well, what do you expect them to do? Like, I don't know. I don't think. I don't know what I would do if I had all this money, but like open up a surgical facility in Ghana to treat rescued child slaves is not my ass.

David Corvo (67:11)

My ass. This motherfucker is 100% human trafficking. Now that's what's happened.

Top Lobster (67:16)

I feel like they're telling you that. I mean, again, I would never accuse Tim Pool of human trafficking, but this is. What are they telling me right here?

Clinton Russell (67:24)

Dude, his show, his show on Amazon prime is called Beast Games and in it you are just basically your morality is tested over and over again. Are you going to backstab this person? How are you going to negotiate who moves on and who gets left left behind and sent home? Are you gonna rob your friend? Are you gonna be deceitful to maintain your bag? Like that's the game and what he's doing, that's. I you not, bro. It's a, it's a eight or ten part series. I watched the whole thing because it's fascinating. I do like the, the experiments within humanity to, to test the bounds of people's morality. What will they do for this?

David Corvo (68:00)

10 million dollar, 40 days in the wilderness?

Clinton Russell (68:03)

No, it's just 10 days. You know, backstabbing is what it ought to be called, but it's very, it's very fascinating. I'm just saying, like this guy, when, when I'm watching it and I think everybody at home is watching it and someone, you know, backstabs everybody to, to do this or, or they don't backstab anybody to. And they sacrifice a million dollars. Like, like that happens too, some people. Owen Benjamin chastised me, says it's scripted. I don't give a. Owen, let me live in my delusions. But, but my point is, is that when someone stabs someone in the back, that's like one of their best allies and they do it viciously. Everybody at home, I have to imagine, has the same reaction I do, which is, oh, Whoa, that's crazy. Mr. Beast is always there watching and he just goes, you know, like, like, like he's just like, he has no emotion about it. He doesn't give a.

David Corvo (68:50)

This is as far as he can go on camera. You know damn well like in his personal life he won't. He'll get two hookers off the street, toss a, a stack of cash on the ground and say kill each other. And they'll look at each other, they'll look at the money, they'll look at him, and then they'll start trying to kill each other. You know, that's what he's doing in the privacy of his own home.

Clinton Russell (69:07)

Like, he. He's like the type of dude that buys two prostitutes. He says, I'm prepared to pay you $10 million to fuck me, but I'm only fucking the one who survives the battle royale to the death.

David Corvo (69:18)

Incredible.

Clinton Russell (69:18)

You know what I'm saying?

David Corvo (69:19)

Like, the only way his dick gets.

Clinton Russell (69:20)

Hard anymore, I swear to God, that's the only way. That's the only way his dick functions.

David Corvo (69:24)

Look, this is for the parents out there. You guys are gonna know this one. So there's a. There's a. I don't know if it's still active. I imagine the kid grew up, but there was a popular children's channel on YouTube called Ryan's Toy Review. And Ryan's Toy Review, for those of you who don't have children or don't know, is a small Filipino child whose parents basically made an entire series for him. And all the series is, is Ryan gets whatever the fuck Ryan wants, and then he reviews the toy. And this is great, you know, entertainment for your child until he comes to you. And he wants everything that Ryan wants.

Top Lobster (69:54)

But you can tell after watching that kid for a couple of years that he just hates everything.

David Corvo (69:59)

Exactly. So. So what's ended up happening is they've inadvertently. And maybe they knew, but the money was so fucking good. I mean, they made an empire. They're selling their merch in Walmart. They're signing on other children's shows. Ryan, there he is. Sweet, sweet little Ryan and his fucking mystery egg. That son of a bitch. He's grown up now. He's much older than that image.

Clinton Russell (70:17)

I remember. I remember that kid, though.

David Corvo (70:19)

What happens when you give a child every fucking thing they've ever wanted at the ripe old age of five, and then they build an empire off the back of getting everything they've ever wanted? That kid is going to struggle so hard to find anything that gets his juices going. He's gonna kill his first hooker at 17 years old.

Clinton Russell (70:41)

He's like. He's like, I have to. He's like, the only way I can feel anything is to do heroin while I'm skydiving. Do you understand the threshold for my enjoyment at this point?

David Corvo (70:51)

Honestly? I mean, that's a real thing, right? Because it's. Obviously, you take a kid who's never had anything pluck a. I don't know, let's say you shot some microwaves into the ionosphere above Haiti and you destabilized it, and there was a giant earthquake, and then you went in there and you Stole a bunch of babies. Well, those babies probably would never have seen anything cool in their lives. So if you give them, like, a Super Nintendo, despite the fact that it's 2025, they're gonna be floored.

Clinton Russell (71:14)

Exactly.

David Corvo (71:14)

But if you take Ryan's toy review and you give him a Super Nintendo, he's likely to bury a shiv in your eye. There's no fucking way that that kid would not be anything less than insulted for that.

Clinton Russell (71:27)

A kid from Haiti, you give him a game like, you give him Pong, and he's like, this is fucking unbelievable.

David Corvo (71:32)

100% if you wanted to. And you said, hey, look, this is really the deal. Child from Haiti, we came here to drink your adrenalized blood, but we don't have to kill you to do it. Let's hook you up. You play a little Yoshi's Island, Have a good time, and that's it. We'll just put a little needle in, you have a slow drip, we'll come.

Clinton Russell (71:47)

We got Mario Bag. Every once in a while, we got Mario party 1.0, and then we're going to eat your sou.

Top Lobster (71:54)

Incredible. Sounds like a good deal to me.

David Corvo (71:56)

Yeah, it's a good trade for. For a Haitian kid. You ever played Mario Kart? It's a bad.

Top Lobster (72:00)

You guys. Do you guys remember this as well? Hold on. This. This one here, Mr. Beast was actually invited to ride the Titanic submarine. Oh, you remember that thing that imploded, but he said no.

Clinton Russell (72:11)

Yeah. And he's like. He's like, I know exactly what's gonna happen next.

Top Lobster (72:15)

It's. It's like one of those. This is one of those weird things as well. Like, so Howard Lutnick, actually, I have. I have him in. In our banners here as well, having to do with the. The tariffs. He's one of those people that were supposed to be in the. In the towers in 9 11.

David Corvo (72:33)

Yeah.

Top Lobster (72:34)

And did. You didn't know that, Clint. Right. So he's. He's Trump's one of Trump's advisors. And his backstory is he was. He was running a company. I forget the name of the company, but he called out that day to bring his kid to kindergarten, and boom, towers go down. All of a sudden, he's in every, like, influential moment in the last couple of years just lurking in the background. And I actually think it was his idea for how. How Trump would go. Go about, like, this economic warfare with the tariffs and all that stuff. And here's a tweet from him. Let's pull that up.

David Corvo (73:09)

I Wonder if we go back and find people that were like, I. I was supposed to have been on the Titanic.

Top Lobster (73:13)

I mean, yeah, the guy from Family Guy, Mark Wahlberg, although I don't know what the hell he's doing now. So, yeah, the golden age is coming. We're committed to protecting our interests, engaging in global negotiations, and exploding our economy. This dude here is just another one of those people where it's like, are you very lucky? Or is this like, right time, right place? Like, I just don't. I don't understand it. I don't know where to put them. My conspiracy brain starts going crazy.

David Corvo (73:40)

What did he say?

Top Lobster (73:41)

What was the tweet that we're entering into a golden age. This was.

David Corvo (73:46)

Yeah.

Clinton Russell (73:46)

So today they almost exploded our economy, by the way.

Top Lobster (73:50)

Tell us, Tell us what happened there. I know you did an episode.

Clinton Russell (73:54)

Yeah, I don't want to recap the whole thing, but basically the tariff threats imploded the bond market, or they made the bond prices start to spike. So they backed off last second. So yesterday they dropped the tariffs. They paused them for 90 days, and the economy boomed. So a lot of insider trading on that one because the market had tanked. Record record tanking over like a three day or even a week long period. And then yesterday, Trump tweets out at like 9 something in the morning. Be a fantastic time to buy. And then by noon, he pauses the tariffs for 90 days, and then the market has the biggest single up day in history. Not proper, man.

David Corvo (74:36)

That's not cool.

Top Lobster (74:36)

Do you think he also said that the countries that he wanted to come to the table to renegotiate trade have all, except for China. Is that. Is there any veracity to that? Did he get what he wanted?

Clinton Russell (74:47)

They claim. They claim, but we don't know. It's like, there's no. There's no negotiated deals yet. So tbd, it could be. It could be, like, bluffing.

David Corvo (74:55)

It's a weird thing to be throwing around this language of golden age. People who watch Nephilim of Death Squad know we've been harping on that for a while, but it's like there's a bunch of occultists, Alice Bailey and Helena Blavatsky, you know, these old school sort of dark arts that were predicting by way of, like, channeling spirits, that, oh, 2025, we're gonna enter 2025. Specifically, we're gonna enter what's called a golden age. And then I see him using that over and over again. It's also like the first Caesar, I think the. The first what's the. What's the proper terminology?

Clinton Russell (75:28)

Not.

David Corvo (75:28)

Not Caesar, the first emperor of Rome ushered in a golden age. And it was like this big, you know, kind of. I don't know. It's just weird that that language keeps getting thrown around. You know, Donald Trump says, oh, we're entering a golden age. And all these occultists are like, oh, yeah, we're going into the age of Aquarius. That's what's coming out.

Clinton Russell (75:47)

Why has a rapper never named themselves Emperor? Emperor is a great.

David Corvo (75:51)

It's a banger. It's a bear. Yeah, I don't know. They just don't know that word. They don't know a whole lot of words.

Clinton Russell (75:56)

That's true. Good point.

Top Lobster (75:57)

Are you.

David Corvo (75:58)

I don't know. It's not sure how to feel about it. It feels nefarious and spooky to me, but I. I get that. I'm a. Look schizo.

Clinton Russell (76:07)

If. If they're, like, angling that they're gonna migrate back to. Towards a gold standard and get rid of the income tax, which someone like Lutnick has talked about ad nauseam over the past 60 days, then awesome, man. But I just. I just don't believe these guys, like.

David Corvo (76:21)

Well, the golden age is not. Well, I mean, it is one of financial prosperity and all these other things, but it's specifically one where we forsaken Christ and champion somebody else. You know, Somebody else comes and sits in the place and.

Clinton Russell (76:35)

Oh, you'd be talking about the little season.

David Corvo (76:37)

No, not the little seasoning.

Clinton Russell (76:40)

Sorry. That's the only thing I know about.

David Corvo (76:42)

That's. It's fine. It's. It's. It's best kept that way. But, I mean, I don't know. I'm not sure where the fuck we're going. I feel like that. What's that?

Clinton Russell (76:51)

I said, embrace your ignorance, Clint.

David Corvo (76:54)

Stay there. Stay where you are. Don't. Don't. Don't climb any higher. Yeah, that. That. That terminology, golden age just keeps fucking popping up over and over again. And it's. It's got some real serious historical connotations. It's also got some real serious occult connotations and prophecy connotations. It's a weird one. And then I'll just.

Clinton Russell (77:12)

I'll just tell you. You look at. You look at the profile pic of Howard L. You don't come away comforted, I'll tell you that.

David Corvo (77:18)

Is this. I mean, who. Who is this guy? I'm not really familiar with Howard Lutnick.

Clinton Russell (77:22)

He's the CEO of Cantor Fitzgerald. It's I think it's like a bond investing firm. So this guy's conflict of interest is fucking astronomical. Like, you should not have a guy who's in the bond market heavy, who's an economic advisor to the president, United States of the most powerful country and economy in human history. Like, it's just the conflict of interest is extraordinary. So. Yeah, I don't trust this dude at all. No, he doesn't. That guy looks like he'd. He'd sell your child big nose. I'm not commenting on his nose.

David Corvo (77:57)

I mean, I was, I was just observing, that's all. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what's. What's gonna happen, but we keep talking about it. It's like everything is moving towards a consolidation of currency. Right. If you're on the Alex Jones side of things, it's been coming for a long time. We're going to have some sort of economic collapse, and then after the economic collapse, there's going to be consolidation into one currency and one world order and one currency and one world religion.

Clinton Russell (78:23)

We were sprinting towards that collapse until he paused. Those, those tariffs, like, the bond market feels like a.

David Corvo (78:31)

They just play with it. They can do whatever the they want.

Clinton Russell (78:33)

Yeah, they can. I mean, this is, this is the thing that people don't understand is that, like, once, once you've demonstrated that you can whipsaw the economy like this from the presidential level, just with like, basically threats of tariffs and then pausing them and then increasing them and doing whatever the you want. Okay, fine. Yeah, like, you whipsawed the economy into its biggest update ever. And Trump brags about it, even though it was like the worst two consecutive down days ever just before that. But the. Here's the reality. If, as an investor, if you're a, you know, money manager, like, you can't in good conscience deploy capital in this economy because you realize that Trump, 90 days from now can be like, all right, I changed. Or 10 days from now, five days from now, five minutes from now, he can just say, change my mind, Tariff plan back on, light switch on, and. And the market can tank. So it's like, this is not a real investing environment. It's. It's all fiction. And that's not sustainable for people who.

David Corvo (79:31)

Have that sentiment of like, the money's not real, which it's, it's not. It's not backed by anything. And, you know, the inflation is insane. And if you can really just do that, which we know that, like, Wall Street, a lot of it is, is Just, it's all based off of perception and emotion. You know, how do you feel like this is going to do or that's going to do or whatever? And it can be changed by somebody just coming along and saying something. And then you look at what we have now, which is, you know, Elon Musk and Donald Trump have really cornered. I, I guess they're the most influential voices in social media, not just the presidency. Right? I mean, obviously he's the President fucking Trump administration, but this is something far in excess of that, that this dude can just tweet. And we watched him do it for his first administration. He made a lot of really funny tweets and a lot of really scary and yada yada. But now he can approach a market that is almost entirely fictional, based off of nothing but emotion and perception, and then just say one fucking thing and swing it massively in either direction. It's like if there was ever a time where that sentiment of your money is fake rang true. It's fucking, it's truer now than it ever has been.

Clinton Russell (80:37)

This, that's such a great point and I hope people are internalizing that lesson. When, when he put the pause on the tariffs yesterday, in 10 minutes, there was somewhere in the neighborhood of $5 trillion in wealth accumulated. Five trillion. Wow, that's. That's a quarter, that's a quarter of America's GDP, okay, for the fucking year. And it happened in 10 minutes. And that's just. Now it's all paper value. It's all nonsense. Right? But I'm just saying that's a 10 minute swing based off of a, off of a pivot from the President, United States, who should not even have the capacity to do any of this without Congressional authorization. So we don't live in America anymore. We don't live in a free market anymore. We don't have any legitimate value behind our money, our assets. It's all fiction. It's all fiction at this point. This is why I got out of the game. I was managing hundreds of millions of dollars and I was like, nope, I'm not going to be liable for this shit.

Top Lobster (81:32)

But isn't it fantastic that this is happening now? Like he's.

Clinton Russell (81:35)

I don't know, man.

Top Lobster (81:37)

No, I'm just saying, like, that he's putting this on display. It's, it's not a. Well, it's fantastic anymore.

Clinton Russell (81:42)

It's fantastic for people that understand what they're seeing. That's. The vast majority of people don't understand what I'm talking about. Right? Now, the vast majority, I shit you not, top. The vast majority of people saw 5 days down market, cried one day, biggest update ever, cheered. That's all they thought. They aren't, they aren't extrapolating lessons. They're fucking imbeciles.

Top Lobster (82:04)

They're not seeing, like, this guy tweets and then this happens. This guy tweets and then this happens. That's literally what he's been doing. Like, this is why I liked what he did in the first administration where it's like, well, did he actually do these things? Did he actually like, stop the border? Did he. Was there more border patrols? Like, no, but he said, he said this thing and then, and then it stopped or it slowed down.

Clinton Russell (82:27)

He's a fucking warlock. He's spellcrafting the entire thing. Policy.

David Corvo (82:30)

Right, well, that's what I'm talking about. When we, When I was breaking down, like, spell crafting for the people who find that very inflammatory. And I moved instead to, like, perception is everything. It becomes reality. And if you can create a narrative despite it not being tangible, if people believe in it, then it will become. So that's, you know, exactly what we're dealing with here. When you say spellcrafting, and I think it goes a little bit further into a spiritual aspect. But years ago I was playing Grand Theft Auto 5, like when it first came out, and there's in the, I don't know, early in the game, there's like a mission to you. You. You have an opportunity to spike one cigarette manufacturer and uplift the other one. And what I learned is, because you could trade stock in the game, if you bought stock in the one that was going to rise after you on the other one, then you would make a lot of money at the beginning of the game. So what you end up doing is, I think you set like an explosive to go off and it kills. Like the CEO of another cigarette company that was going to do a big promo. And because of that, their stock just tanks because people lose faith in the brand. It's all up in the air. And I remember thinking, like, is that what the fucking stock markets are like? Is that how they work? You just create fear or you create confidence through some sort of public display. And, and then you step two, make money, step two, profit.

Clinton Russell (83:52)

I, I need to explain something to people because this is really important. What you're describing is corporate espionage, which is a thing that's happened forever and it's totally legal. But Jim Cramer's entire. Jim Cramer's entire career is to basically unload the bag on the, you know, average investor so that the institutional guys can get out. So Jim Cramer slash slams the buy, buy, buy button. All of the institutional investors sell, all of the mom and pop investors buy, and then the market tanks. This is I. You. Not. That's his. That's his job. That's why he's been that for 20 years. That's why his stock predictions have such a atrocious track record. But he never gets fired because that's not his job. He's there to mislead you. I just wanted to explain that to people.

David Corvo (84:35)

All that time that that's been going on, I mean, you know, so if I'm 34 now, it's almost been 20 years since, like, I started kind of sniffing around. Like, I got interested in Ron Paul and then realized I was too stupid for politics. But I was at, like, the Occupy Wall street movement and shit. And during that time, I learned that we were causing a bubble with the amount of inflation. And also, like, our national debt was ticking away. I don't remember what it was at that time. It was, like, in the single digits of trillions. I think, way back then.

Clinton Russell (85:06)

I think it was around 10.

David Corvo (85:07)

And, well, either way, I became aware of this idea that all they were doing was staving off an inevitable collapse, that inflation and debt had gotten to such a degree that financial total economic collapse was only a matter of time. And then they just kept expanding the bubble and expanding the bubble and expanding the bubble. So it's really funny to have that, if that's the truth and that's never went away, and we're really just keep, you know, we just keep printing more money and keep trying to make better deals so they can give us a little bit longer. And also, at the same time, they're just manipulating the markets by fucking tweeting like, our entire economy is a joke. It is. It is fucking. It's a scarecrow.

Clinton Russell (85:47)

And this is actually a really good lesson to teach people. So Occupy Wall street began in 2011, like, late 2011. National debt around that time was about 15 trillion. Our national debt today is approaching 37 trillion. So since. Since the Occupy Wall street movement, our national debt has now more than doubled. I'm just telling you guys, none of this is sustainable. And this. This is why, you know, much. Much to the consternation of many libertarians, I was open to Trump's, you know, tariff threats and negotiations to try and reorient the global economy to a certain extent, particularly if he could diminish the Income tax allow for the domestic population to industrialize a little bit more and to pay a little bit less in income taxes and have more of the tax burden carried by importers into America. I think that would be preferable if you could structure it that way while simultaneously lowering, you know, reciprocity, lowering mutual tariffs from oppositional nations so that our industry can sell into the eu, for instance. Like, it's not fair that they sell so many cars to us and we can't sell a fucking single one of them. Like, that's such bullshit. So I was like, I was cool with that, but the main reason I was cool with these extraordinary measures is because I recognize none of this matters, ladies and gentlemen. It's fucking over. Like, it's going, it's going to fucking collapse. You have to do some dramatic shit. And so this is what pissed me off about the libertarians that were like, oh, fucking Trumps or taxes. And it's like, yeah, dude, yeah, tariffs are taxes. Thank you for the 101 breakdown. A fucking course. A tariff is a tax. Oh, fucking course.

Top Lobster (87:23)

Nick Gillespie talking about his 401k. I'm like, aren't you like some sort of economist? Like, don't you realize what's happening here?

Clinton Russell (87:30)

This, this is. And, and I got some heat for dragging him for that. But like, if you're a real deal libertarian and you don't understand that this is all like, you're an idiot. Like, I don't even understand why you're investing in the broad based stock market and you're, you're in your, you're like 65, 67. I don't know how the old this dude is this Fonzie looking with his leather jacket and, but like, why are you in gross stocks? Why are you getting whacked for 20 or 30% in a 48 hour period in the stock market when you're supposed to be preparing for retirement. Why haven't you migrated some of your account to bonds? Why aren't you like having a more conservative investment spectrum so that you don't fucking get your, your nose broken? Because Trump's a psychopath. Oh, by the way, Trump didn't exactly fucking keep it a secret that he's going to implement tariffs, did he? No, he didn't. He said it very loudly. So you're a libertarian and you know exactly what a tariff is going to do to the market, especially if it's broad based and it's threatened against the entire global economy. You know exactly what the fuck's going to happen. So why the. Did you not go short? Why didn't you go to cash? Why didn't you go to money market? Why did you stay long? Nick Gillespie, you Austrian economics libertarian, you imbecile. Sorry for the rant.

David Corvo (88:37)

I have a lot of sympathy for him because I don't understand it at all, dude.

Clinton Russell (88:40)

Yeah, but.

Top Lobster (88:40)

No, but for a guy that.

David Corvo (88:42)

Yes, yeah, yeah, if that's your. If you're supposed to know what's going on.

Top Lobster (88:46)

Yeah, he's part of, he's part of Reason magazine, which is like a, it's a, it's a libertarian think tank that kind of like delves in economic and social issues. And he has done more than his fair share of economic interviews and speeches, which I've heard. Whatever. Take the bath, boy. That's why I told him, I said, pull yourself up by your bootstraps. Play it. It's like. I don't know what to tell you, stupid. You're the one who's been saying this. And what, you didn't believe your own words? So it is what it is, man. Fucking.

Clinton Russell (89:12)

I mean, you're a libertarian who's adamantly opposed to tariffs, and yet you didn't exit the market when you knew Donald Trump was going to implement the largest tariff regime in fucking American history. You didn't, you didn't actually do anything to protect yourself. How about, how about personal responsibility, Nick? Like, I'm sorry, I just. On all levels, this frustrates me.

David Corvo (89:32)

I know you said that. It's, it's, it's fucked. But given the move that he just made, where, like, you know, there's some notable bounce back in the market, and now he's, you know, Trump is kind of celebrating that. Like, look what I did. What do you think is going to happen? I'm not asking you to make predictions, but, I mean, if you had to speculate.

Clinton Russell (89:50)

Well, if you ask me what I think is going to happen, you're asking for a prediction.

Top Lobster (89:53)

Look, by definition, David, I just don't.

David Corvo (89:56)

Know what the meaning of the word is.

Clinton Russell (89:58)

I just use words, and sometimes I describe words in ways that I also don't know what they mean. Look, the 90 day pause is going to tell you a lot. We already know that if he implements this tariff regime, the market's going to fucking tank. So you have to, you have to be prepared for that. But the truth is, what you've also learned is that Trump is not telling the truth, that he will back off. Even when he said for the past week, he's like, we're not going to negotiate. These tariffs are coming. There's nothing you can do to escape it. And then he did. He did pause them. So.

Top Lobster (90:27)

But then we also don't know how many of these calls to, like, to representatives in the White House from foreign countries that want to renegotiate. We don't know how many are true. I'm sure that a number did. I'm sure that there are some. So they. I think the important thing to notice here is that the other countries don't notice either. But what he's showing them is like, I don't. I'll do it. I did it. These people freaked out, and he just said, whatever. So it's like. But it's. It's one of those things where it's like, he is, like, slightly unstable, but also, if he says he's going to do it, Nicolaspi, then he's going to do it. And he's done this multiple times. So it's. I. It's a. It's a warning to other countries. We're going to see what happens.

David Corvo (91:01)

It's negotiation that, like a couple of days of fluctuation in the perception of the market. And he knows that he's gonna rebound it. But what it does is it gives people, other. Other countries the impression, like, yeah, this motherfucker's about it.

Top Lobster (91:13)

There's probably some dudes that jumped off a roof from this shit. Who knows? And it's like, you know, most people wouldn't play with the market this way, but he's doing it. And. And you're seeing, he's like, yo, this is like, deep into the red. And then he just looks at the other countries and they're like, I listen, they had to have been sweating. They're like, is this guy really gonna put 125 tariff on us? And he's like, bro, everyone was sweating.

Clinton Russell (91:34)

That's why the market fucking tanked how it did. Yeah. And rightfully so. It. This is. I mean, it's just super dangerous. Like, what he's doing is super dangerous. And. And when you do things like this breaks dangerous. Yeah, it's fucking dangerous. Like, shit breaks, and you can't just repair that. Like, if. If you tank the market aggressively enough and there's fucking. There's margin calls on investors to the tune of trillions of dollars, and they don't have that money, Then they have to go to, you know, maybe they have derivatives or insurance contracts. They go to those companies and they say, hey, we need to cover these losses. We paid you our premiums. To cover us. And then they go, well, we don't have that money because we didn't expect you to get wiped out in 48 hour period. And then they go bankrupt. And then there are, there's derivative contracts that, that are on them and they have other counterparty risk with other insurance companies and other banking institutions. Basically what I'm saying is you can create a fucking a, a global, you know, implosion as a consequence of, of playing this game. So this is not a game is what I'm saying. You know, a lot of people just.

David Corvo (92:32)

Go advantageous though, right? If you subscribe to, like I said before, that whole Alex Jones new World order kind of thing, if you want to consolidate somehow, if you do have big plans to pull off some crazy like that, you have to burn to the ground the pre existing system and that kind of goes in. I'm not saying that that's what's going to happen, but that's what that dude Cliff High's data set said to expect pretty much now. So it would have been February, March, April and May that were going to be pretty rough. And then, you know, June, come June, we were going to come out of it somehow. And he said that it had economic implications and that, you know, people were going to be, I guess at sort of congressional hearings and they were going to be freaking the out. And he didn't know like the nature of why they'd be freaking the out.

Clinton Russell (93:18)

But it seemed to be that happened this week. There was, there was Democrats that were freaking the fuck out because of what was happening in the market. But here's the thing, and I advise this to all Trump supporters, like you can be a revolutionary, I love revolutionary spirit. You have to be cautious that you are not just burning something down for the sake of burning it down. You actually have to have a vision for what you're going to build in the ashes. And a lot of these people don't. And I question sometimes whether or not Trump does either. So just be cautious. Like it's okay to be a revolutionary, especially if you exist under a very unjust system. Sometimes revolution is necessary. However, you better have a vision because if you're, if you're just a chaos agent, well then welcome to hell and you just created it.

Top Lobster (94:03)

I think Trump does have a vision and I, I'm also very comfortable saying I don't know what it is. I think he, that's one of the things that he's, he's keeping under, you know, lock and key. The guy says a lot of and he's. He's kind of an open book on stuff, but his true motives is something that I. I don't think anybody really knows. But he's about.

David Corvo (94:23)

If he did have. If his true motive was to do something like that, like, he's gonna tear it down and build it back up. He could never say that. He could never say that that was what was going to happen, because half the country is still polarized in the opposite direction. They hate him. Right? So if he ever uttered, hey, we gotta rip the band aid off, we gotta destroy this economy, and we got to rebuild it somehow. I'm not saying that's what he's doing, but if there was ever a plan to. To sort of save the state of America from the dire situation that it's in, this guy couldn't even tell you what it is because everybody would go, that's a horrible idea. And, you know, they'd rally against him one way or another. So if he is going to do anything, he's kind of got to do it under the veil of secrecy.

Clinton Russell (95:01)

Well, he does. And this is where the trust, the plan. People, you know, scream at me and go, he's got a vision. He's got a plan. He knows exactly what he's doing. It's like, okay, maybe he also was the guy who fucking greenlit, you know, lockdowns and Operation Warp Speed.

David Corvo (95:18)

Yeah.

Clinton Russell (95:18)

And I'm like. I'm like, look, I'm sorry, but you can't. You can't ask me to trust that guy. Okay? You can't. I can't. I can't do it. It's not possible. But that doesn't mean that he doesn't have a vision. That doesn't mean that he won't be successful here. I don't know. But I can't trust it. Sorry.

Top Lobster (95:35)

Do you think 20 in 2016, do you think the economy, the dollar, the. The state of America, could that have been turned around and rectified in a way that would be satisfactory? Or was it. Was it already too decayed?

Clinton Russell (95:47)

I'm sorry, what year?

Top Lobster (95:48)

2016, you know, 2012. 2016, yes, absolutely. You think so?

Clinton Russell (95:53)

Oh, absolutely, yeah.

Top Lobster (95:54)

Okay. I mean, I was just saying if you don't think so, operating on that idea, then, you know, the lockdowns, Operation Warp Speed, which is, you know, twofold, that's like vaccines. But Operation Warp Speed could also be like, yo, we're this, we're accelerating this. We're moving this forward. And we kind of did see this acceleration of this controlled demolition of America over the last eight years, from, you know, the Biden administration to like maybe two. One or two years into Trump's administration, six years, let's say. So it's like if the plan was to knock it down, rebuild it, and not tell anybody, it seems like that's what we're doing slowly.

Clinton Russell (96:28)

But here's the key. There's. There's great resets, and then there's great resets, you know, there's World Economic Forum great reset that collapses everything and we all own nothing and we're never happy again. And then there's fucking great reset where, like, we actually create a solid foundation by which our children can thrive. Okay? So I don't know for sure if Trump is an agent of the Great Reset or the Great Reset. Get what I'm saying?

Top Lobster (96:53)

That's the question.

David Corvo (96:54)

You said before that he's spellcasting and Marina Abramovic called him the great magician that would awaken the masses. And I don't think that's a positive.

Top Lobster (97:04)

No.

Clinton Russell (97:04)

Yeah, but that's not comforting at all.

David Corvo (97:06)

It's not comforting at all, actually. So whatever happens, if it's the great reset for the positive, you know, I worry that people will galvanize to him like some sort of God king.

Clinton Russell (97:16)

A lot of people have.

David Corvo (97:17)

All right, guys, either way, it's not good.

Top Lobster (97:19)

Let's bring it in. We were supposed to talk about Stu Peters debate in Gary the numbers guy, which is actually.

David Corvo (97:24)

No, there's no debate there, though. He's just going to call him a fat Jew and he's got to say.

Top Lobster (97:28)

Gotta say really quick before we go, I did message Stu and I was like, look at this. Gary has been using an alt to put satanic hexes on different people.

Clinton Russell (97:37)

It's.

Top Lobster (97:37)

So he put this up. It's actually very funny because this guy, Gary the numbers guy happens to be the manager for, you know, the fresh and fit dudes, which are now anti Israel. It's a fucking. When Tim is talking about this stuff about bots and all this, like, this crazy mess. He's talking about this shit. You're not talking about me. It's a delusion. When you. What you. When you're looking at what I'm saying, you're delusional because you're. You're looking at these people as well. I'm telling you the truth, bro. Take a step back and look at it. This is the crate. This is crazy shit. But I think a lot of it's true, man.

David Corvo (98:08)

I would just like to say in closing, Gary the numbers guy is a faggot.

Top Lobster (98:13)

That's all.

David Corvo (98:14)

That's all. We could end it there, guys. We could bring it in for a landing.

Top Lobster (98:16)

That's all. See you later.

Clinton Russell (98:17)

Thank you. Thank you guys for tuning in. Dangerous Retards Episode 9 We love you.

Top Lobster (98:20)

Peace, Pen.