034: Jail - NDS Chronicles

Summary

Nephilim Death Squad – Episode 034: "Jail - NDS Chronicles"

Date: September 19, 2025
Hosts: David Lee Corbo (Raven), TopLobsta
Producer: Nancy

Episode Overview

This episode of the Nephilim Death Squad welcomes listeners into a raw, often darkly comedic exploration of inmates’ stories and the supernatural through a biblical-conspiratorial lens. Hosts Raven and TopLobsta dive into a gripping, sprawling listener submission (nicknamed "Orange Is the New Black") from Heather, chronicling her experiences as an inmate in a Florida women’s prison—including encounters with mental illness, violence, and the psychological intensity of confinement. Throughout, the hosts veer between commentary, banter, and listeners' questions, maintaining their trademark sardonic, irreverent tone.

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Main Segments & Key Discussion Points

1. Podcast Banter and Set-Up

• Community & Patreon Talk (03:00)
  • Encouragement for support via Patreon, boasting exclusive content and merch.
  • Humorous disdain for "pores" (non-supporters) and teasing promised Patreon-only segments.
  • Running joke about fundraising for producer Nancy’s computer and possible skinwalker origins.

Quote:
"You know, all the things that are horrifying in the world, we talk about a lot of them. Futanari, succubi, sleep paralysis demons… nothing is more horrific than the pores."
— TopLobsta, (03:05)

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2. Introduction to Heather’s Story: "Orange is the New Black"

• Context:
  • Heather, a self-described “weird autistic lady,” served time in a Florida max-security women’s prison, mainly for drug-related property crime.
  • The episode sets the tone for a deep dive into the psychological and sometimes surreal world within prison walls.

Quote:
“I was in prison. It wasn’t new prison, either. I had been there for a few years, so had already had so many other crazy things happen...”
— Heather (read aloud by hosts, 12:08)

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3. Prison Realities: Social Order & Survival

(15:00–18:00)

• Media and film references (Pathmark, shopping carts, catalytic converters) frame the economic desperation leading to crime.
• Florida’s harsh sentencing and prison overpopulation explained with a dose of dark humor.
• The prison culture is ethnographically painted with “cool” but dangerous women, regular exposure to mental illness, and the constant tension of shared space.

Quote:
“There is one of me in every supermarket.” — Heather (in chat, referenced by hosts)

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4. Schizophrenia, Violence, and “Izzy”: The Real Threat

(18:20–24:30)

• Heather recalls the repeated policy of “trial running” high-risk, mentally ill inmates, especially one, “Izzy” (aka Islandi), who terrifies the entire unit for her unpredictable, violent outbursts and supernatural presence.
• Narration blends horror with humor (“that thing be stanking!”), but the real danger is palpable.

Quote:
“She was tall. Her arms and legs were like tree stumps. She was Caribbean. Her first name was even Islandi... Everyone was afraid of her.”
— Heather (read by Raven, 20:23)

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5. Bathroom Assault & Systemic Dismissal

(25:15–34:10)

• Heather is violently assaulted by Izzy in a bathroom, suffers physical and mental shock, and is placed in solitary “protective custody” despite being the victim.
• The hosts reflect on the trauma, the “autopilot” required, and the dehumanizing prison policies that equate victims and aggressors.
• Conversation draws parallels to high school violence and broader institutional failures.

Quote:
“I was caught completely off guard. Also, I know when to stand down. And this is one of those times where you just curl up in a ball and pray for it to be over because, you know, she has the strength of a monster.”
— Heather (read by Raven, 34:12)

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6. Solitary Confinement: Time Distortion and Adversity

(44:15–47:10)

• Description of life in solitary: psychological isolation, deprivation, sleep deprivation, and the odd routines it creates (e.g., staying up all night, sleeping in clothes, adapting to orchestrated discomfort by guards).
• Illustrative aside: the role of kindness in prison and how even small gestures (sharing coffee, thermals) become huge.

Quote:
“In prison time moves slow, but in confinement it stands still. A thousand years and five hours are the same. Time doesn’t exist in there the way it does out here.”
— Heather (read by TopLobsta, 75:59)

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7. The "Sink Owl": Spiritual Warfare Meets Institutional Neglect

(48:00–66:30)

• Heather describes her next cellmate: a young, religiously psychotic woman who repeatedly attempts to “save” Heather through intrusive, insistent Bible recitation, baby talk, and exorcism rituals.
• The hosts comment on the emotional whiplash, the uncanny psychological environment, and the inability of staff to distinguish or intervene meaningfully in mental health crises.

Memorable Moment:

• The “Sink Owl”—Heather’s term for the girl perched on the sink, hooded, chanting Bible verses—becomes a symbol for the nightmarish, surreal aspects of the experience.

Quote:
“She’s chanting over and over…I’m banging on the cell door because I’ve had enough, and I want the officers to come by… This stupid little girl is sitting in the blind spot in the corner on the bed…mouthing the Bible words at me with that fire in her eyes, looking like some horror movie exorcist.”
— Heather (read by Raven, 70:00)

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8. Psychological Boiling Point: Intrusive Thoughts and Anger

(75:58–80:15)

• Heather recounts growing desperation, intrusive thoughts of violence, and the real toll of psychological torture by her cellmate.
• The hosts discuss whether such moments are spiritual attacks, institutional failures, or both.

Quote:
“I remember the thought crossing my mind, ‘You can smash her head on the toilet and say she came after you. No one would know.’ I have never felt that kind of desperation in my life.”
— Heather (read by TopLobsta, 76:21)

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9. Resolution: Transfer and Aftermath

(81:00–87:18)

• Heather is finally moved to a new cell with a more stable, long-term inmate. Together, they laugh about the ordeal, underscoring the coping role of camaraderie.
• The psychotic woman’s breakdown culminates in a “toilet baptism,” the flooding of her cell with Bible pages, and eventual extraction by riot-gear-clad guards.
• The hosts linger on the lingering psychological scars and the lack of real spiritual comfort in the setting.

Quote:
“This whole chain of events really messed me up psychologically. Actually, the entire prison experience did that…But I think about that whole thing now. Just because I used to make jokes about it and think that it was funny that her exorcism backfired and bounced back at her. But now that my beliefs are different, I'm really confused. Nothing makes sense anymore.”
— Heather (read by Raven, 90:56)

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10. Host Analysis & Community Engagement

• Candid analysis of Heather’s trauma: is the experience spiritual warfare, mental illness, institutional brokenness, or all of the above?
• Listeners chime in via chat; hosts invite similar submissions, exploring the liminality between psychological horror and the demonic.

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11. Short Listener Submission: “Nephilim Porn Addict”

(97:00–113:00)

• A listener (“V”) courageously confesses a bizarre, shame-inducing, and possibly generationally-rooted porn addiction (specifically, "vore" or “eaten alive” content involving giant women/Nephilim).
• Hosts contemplate the origins of such shameful fixations, tying them to Nephilim lore (giant cannibalism, generational trauma), and suggest spiritual deliverance.
• The conversation transitions into a discussion of generational sin, trauma, and the challenges of deliverance, merging the metaphysical and psychological.

Quote:
"I never asked to like this content. It is quite literally the biggest source of shame in my life, which I think is part of it. The more shame, the more unredeemable you feel."
— Listener (“V”), as read by Raven (101:22)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Institutional Brutality:
  "You get your ass kicked, then you get your shit stolen, and then you get to be in basically solitary confinement. That is crazy."
  — Raven (43:08)

• On Spiritual Warfare:
  “This literally is like the scene where, like, Saruman and Gandalf are fighting in the tower. Shout out to all the Lord of the Rings enjoyers out there.”
  — Raven (67:49)

• On Cops & Correctional Staff:
  “What is you doing in here? Oh, hell no.”
  — Officer, as mimicked by TopLobsta (85:29)

• On the Listener Submission & Shame:
  "You're not alone as in something is with you. Something is getting you to do this. Now you're the one who's ultimately giving in or not."
  — Raven (112:00)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Intro, Patreon, Banter — 03:00
• Heather's Story Begins — 12:08
• Pathmark Anecdotes, Petty Crime — 13:10–14:26
• Prison Population, Mental Illness — 18:21
• Heather is Attacked by Izzy — 25:20
• Placed in Solitary — 44:15
• Sink Owl / Religious Cellmate — 49:36
• Psychological Breaking Point — 75:59
• Resolution, Riot Extraction — 87:18
• Listener Submission: Vore Addiction — 97:00–113:26

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Final Thoughts

This episode blends horror, humor, vulnerability, and social critique. Through Heather’s detailed prison narrative, the hosts probe into demonic literalism, institutional entropy, and the deep darkness present in the intersection of trauma, spirituality, and the broken American justice system. Listener submissions round out the episode, translating ancient fears and biblical archetypes into modern psychological struggles.

If you like your paranormal and conspiracy podcasts served with razor wit, genuine empathy, and an unsparing look at the sinister and surreal, this is essential listening.

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Next Up: “Nephilim Porn Addict” listener letter, and more wild, boundary-pushing testimony.

Transcript

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[A]

Putting up with your abuse. That's not nice. I hope that that came through in the intro, what you said to me.

[B]

I didn't say anything to you. Say hi, Nancy. Hi.

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Good.

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That's Nancy.

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That's enough. And that's about enough.

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That's about enough of you.

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Yeah.

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Why is that serious right now?

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I almost. I almost said backsplash. Nephilim death. Forward slash. Nephilim Death Squad. Sometime around the 30 minute mark, the pores will be kicked out because they are disgusting. You know, all the things that are horrifying in the world, we talk about a lot of them. Futanari, succubi, sleep paralysis, demons. Nothing is more horrific than the pores. And we will be shaking them off around the 30 minute mark. If you're not poor and you want to Prove us wrong, patreon.com/now/nephilim death Squad is for you gain access to the rest of the episode.

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That you could potentially.

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[A]

Which are pleasures today. Which way? Usually you pick one, you go, that one's good.

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I don't know, man. I mean, the designs that we have are really. I know that we've. We've put a highlight on this one before, but this is for the people. Go back up to the moon map because that is. That's it, man. That's one of the coolest designs that we have. The moon map. If you get it, you get it. If you don't. Are you even a fan of the show? Losers.

[A]

Steven.

[B]

Steven, you bitch.

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You.

[B]

All right, guys. Well, we're gonna get into it. Let's jump straight into it. Because we. We were told by Nancy, producer Nancy, that. That we have a really excellent. She said it was phenomenal. She said it was one of the best she'd ever read. I believe was the words that she used. And she also said it's 14 pages.

[A]

Oh, we're actually doing that.

[B]

So we have to get straight into it. But thank you.

[A]

Oh, hey. Okay, schizo friend with $10. Do a gifts and go for Nancy's computer. I'm good for $100. Well, this $10 will go towards that. We need to have one of those like. Like how you had in tlc, a little counter. I don't know how much a computer will cost.

[B]

It wasn't a counter. I had to update it constantly. And then the people would make fun of me when my math was wrong.

[A]

But that's right.

[B]

We do need to get Nancy a proper computer. And I think that setting up some sort of pay our producer like, you know what? We're supposed to pay our producer. But if could.

[A]

It'll be. We'll make it fun.

[B]

Pay our producer.

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Pay our producer.

[B]

And. And we'll get her some equipment. What do you think about that, Nancy?

[A]

Just not even talking.

[B]

You guys don't have to do that. I have a. I have a working tablet.

[A]

All right. She asked for the computer, so we're going to get her a computer.

[B]

She needs it. She says she wants it and she says she appreciates.

[A]

To be honest. I think we could just get her the parts, like the pieces of the computer.

[B]

I like how.

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And let her put it together herself.

[B]

Somebody in the chat named Anessa M. Says, howdy, David, and feels like it's a. It's a. Like it's somebody I should know in person. You know, like whenever you see something like that, it's like, do I know you from, like, a past life or something? Are you, like, somebody that I used to work with or are you related to me? Maybe even. It just seemed like a really peculiar, like, hello. Specifically David.

[A]

I say I don't know you. Yeah, maybe the other guy. Whatever. But David.

[B]

Right. By the way, well.

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Shoe of the day.

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Shoe of the day. Those are bangers.

[A]

These are my favorite sneakers in the world.

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We need a shoe cam.

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Yeah.

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Those are beautiful sneakers.

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They're the best.

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They're the best.

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We the best.

[B]

They're the best. All right. No more dilly dallying. Dude. Nancy said that we have to get.

[A]

Straight into 14 pages.

[B]

14 pages. This is titled Orange is the New Black. And I was told this is about a woman in prison. So I said, that's cool.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Man, let me tell you, this is dense. This is 14 pages all the way through. There's no, like, big spaces or anything like that. Hi.

[A]

Are you sure you don't want to, like, warm up into it?

[B]

I mean. What do you mean? I think we got to just get through it, dude. I know, but there are this.

[A]

There's short ones. One guy likes to get eaten by Nephilim. There are druggies. There's shadow people.

[B]

There's always druggies and shadow people, though.

[A]

There's a daddy. Daddy sent us an update.

[B]

Did he really?

[A]

I think so.

[B]

Daddy Dungus. I'm sorry.

[A]

All right, whatever. I guess we're doing this. What is it?

[B]

I'm gonna plow through it, dude.

[A]

There's one that says numerology 444.

[B]

Fuck you. Gary's the number is gonna. The numbers guy youy know how I feel about Gary. Though I really don't like.

[A]

I know, but that's still no excuse. So now you. Now we're making the. The Jays. Like, they're gonna tell us how to talk on our show.

[B]

On our show.

[A]

$50 from Schizo Friend. Thank you very much. Surely there's a better way to do this. So. Yeah, yeah, probably sending it to.

[B]

Honestly, I don't know if we've ever pulled the money off of YouTube yet, have we?

[A]

No. You know what I think we should do?

[B]

What? We should use the funds from YouTube for. For Nancy's shit.

[A]

We should. We should actually. We can do that.

[B]

We can do that on YouTube. Are gonna go towards Nancy. Nancy's.

[A]

Yeah, but YouTube's still gonna take half of it or something like that. They take a big percentage. They take more than rumble.

[B]

They're clipping our coins.

[A]

Maybe we should make like a T shirt for Nancy. I agree. Big. Like a gangly skin walker on a computer.

[B]

Nancy, what do you think about that?

[A]

Nancy, pull up some death video.

[B]

I like it.

[A]

Okay. I think. All right, so a T shirt for. Because I hate, like. I mean, it's not that I hate the super chats. I pre. We appreciate. Of course.

[B]

Yeah, of course. I appreciate Schizo Friend.

[A]

And we like to talk to them, like, when they come up, but I also like to give them something for what they like, what they're paying for. So at least like with the Toad thing, there was.

[B]

Oh, yeah, that beautiful shirt.

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We raised like a good amount of money for Toad in that shirt.

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No, no, that was. Yeah, yeah. They don't understand the things I say on Twitter. Right.

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That's what it's. No, no, no. It's.

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It's.

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I don't even have it up here anymore. Let me see. Hold on. Give me a second.

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Go ahead. And vamping. I mean, I really got to read this 14 page story.

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I don't care.

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All right, fine. That's fine.

[A]

I misspelled the word toad. Oh, yeah, this is it. This is the one. Toad. Toad fundraisers.

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Yeah, yeah. They don't understand the things they say on Twitter. That's what it was. That's what I said.

[A]

Oh, no, no, because there's a. Another version. So this one. Yeah. I mean, it cost me like, you know, a couple of dollars, depending on the size to actually print the shirt, but the rest of it goes to Toad.

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Z man says a Nancy sticker pack. Nancy should be. I think there's something about the skinwalker that really resonates with Nancy.

[A]

Yeah. Our producer is a skinwalker Honestly, the.

[B]

Day that she came up to me and said hello, it. There was something nefarious. Wearing the skin of a woman.

[A]

No, I mean, the. The greeting was very nice.

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It was nice.

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Everything was nice about it.

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She has a steel energy about her. Steel is in, like, metal. Like she has a cold.

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What it is. All the skin on my flesh crawled.

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Yeah. All of the hair on my body stood up. And it wasn't auto. It happened. I didn't do it to myself this time. It's when she stood in front of me. I said, I feel like I'm in danger.

[A]

We'll work on something. I think that would be fun. And then we could do like a little fundraiser and get. Because she needs. She'll need a microphone.

[B]

That's right.

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She'll need a computer.

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A nice pair of headphones would be good.

[A]

Probably some sneakers because she had no shoes on when we met her.

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That's right. And then very long feet.

[A]

Yes. Like, toes were spread out like this.

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Like she was gripping the earth. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Strange. All right, all right. So what's the name of this story?

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This is Orange is the New Black was what it said.

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I don't even see it here you.

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Come on, man. It's. There's not that many. There you go. Okay. It starts off with high.

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Oh, actually there is quite a few.

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Flesh.

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Hold on. There is a few. There are a few. And we actually have a brand new website that you can go to. It's Chrome Chronicles, NDS at Gmail. But I'm going to change this because I want you guys to send the emails to this one. So are you gonna.

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Oh, do we have it set up for Nancy yet?

[A]

Well, yeah, Nancy will get these and.

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It'Ll be what it's. Well, what's the domain? Yeah, go ahead and tell us what it is.

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Hold on.

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We're working on things. We're really fleshing things out here. Flesh being the functioning word. Flesh.

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Yeah, we made it. We tried to make it easier for everybody. So I made it longer.

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Yes, super long.

[A]

No, that's not right. Don't email that one. Hold on.

[B]

We don't know what it is.

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It's just Chronicles.

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Okay. Chronicles at Nephilim Death Squad dot com.

[A]

That's a banger. And we actually have Chronicles at Nephilim. We have Nancy at Nephilim Death Squad. We've got. I think it's like David or Raven. Me. We have our own separate.

[B]

Well, they probably know what it is.

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We'll figure it out. Okay, but this one, definitely.

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But you Guys can email Nancy at [e-mail] and I don't care what you email her with, but please do email her. Please do send, whatever you got.

[A]

Let her know.

[B]

Let her know how you're feeling. You know, just maybe the ins and outs of your day.

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Yeah, like that. No cursing. All right, here we go.

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Hi.

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Hi.

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Hi.

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Who is this? She didn't say.

[B]

We didn't. She didn't say.

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I got to scroll 14 pages down.

[B]

Wow. To dox her.

[A]

Look at this. Still going.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Dude. Okay, here we go. Let me. I gotta get into it because we're at the end.

[A]

At the end. Okay, bye.

[B]

Okay, bye. Okay, bye. Okay, very nice. All right. She goes. I'm imagining it's a she. I'm not really sure how to even begin this. You really mess that up right off the bat. Just high. Yeah, it's all over the place. And not really about one specific topic. It was just a weird thing that happened to me that you guys will probably think is funny. It's funny, but it's funny now, but it wasn't when it happened.

[A]

Many such cases.

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Yes. Yes. But I don't even know where the. I gotta read it. Dude. It's. I didn't say. I don't even know where the fuck to begin. Whoa. I was in prison. Whoa. It wasn't new prison, either. I had been there for a few years, so. Had already had, like, so many other crazy things happen. I know the way you guys like to stop and talk about things. So I'll say I was there for taking scrap metal to the recycling center. It wasn't mine. I needed money for drugs.

[A]

Is this Kate?

[B]

Dude, this is such a banger.

[A]

Kate has that look about her, Right?

[B]

I used to work for a place that, like, you know, we. We collected catalytic converters and shit, and, you know, rotors. But we did it legally from shops. Yeah, but, like, when you're doing that, every shop owner is like, yeah, I'd rather give it to you guys for some money than have these crackheads keep coming over here with. With hacksaws and cutting my cats out.

[A]

There's a lot of tricks to this, too. I used to live by one of these places. And you'll see a crackhead. They used to steal the carriage from Pathmark. I don't remember Pathmark.

[B]

I used to be the manager of Pathmark.

[A]

He looks like David. The type of dude to be the manager of Path.

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I was the manager of Pathmark until the day it all went under. I literally Like I was the la. You know, part of the last wave of people that worked at Pathmark. And then we closed the doors forever.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

I mean, funny.

[A]

Underrated store. Pretty cool.

[B]

Great bakery.

[A]

Great bakery. I enjoy Path. Anyway, they'd steal the Path Mark carts and they fill them up with all kinds of metal and that they found from Coney island. And then they wheel it over a big. What's this thing called? Like, just a bridge. Just a big bridge. But you'd have to check, like I talked to the guys there and they'd have to dump out all the bottles of Hi jc.

[B]

Hi, jc.

[A]

All the bottles of whatever they're recycling because they'll put water.

[B]

Oh, yeah. And it make it heavier.

[A]

This is the. This is. How do you grift?

[B]

That's the grift, baby. Yeah. Yeah. Back before you ever did it on. On Twitter or the Internet, it was happening in shopping carts and Pathmarks.

[A]

This lady needs a name because we.

[B]

Pathmark. Peggy. So Peggy. Peggy does seem apt. All right, so her name is Heather. Oh, Heather. Heather.

[A]

Perfect.

[B]

Heather is a, like a kind of a, you know, a drug addict white girl name. Yeah, yeah, I've known some Heathers.

[A]

You see that around here.

[B]

Yeah. All right. I needed money for drugs. They stacked charges on me for the same crime and I ended up with a seven year sentence because that's how Florida do.

[A]

Oh, yeah, that's what I'm saying. She seems like she's from around here.

[B]

That's right. Yeah. You literally just said that. That's hilarious.

[A]

Peggy. You in Lake county.

[B]

To keep the prisons full. I deserve. I did deserve to go. I will say that I served 80, 85 of my sentence because that's how Florida do. It was a maximum security prison even though I was in high custody or anything. It's just that when you're a low custody, you can go wherever there is room. So that's where I went. So aside from your regular displaced inmates like myself, there were all kinds of really interesting maximum security inmates. It was a woman's prison, though. I'm some kind of weird autistic lady.

[A]

Makes sense. Makes sense. Welcome to the show.

[B]

I like the. The women that we attract to this show are. They're pretty cool. Yeah, cool in like a, you know, that's a colloquial term for, you know, likely on drugs. Probably pretty dangerous.

[A]

Yeah. But also like stay over there.

[B]

Cool. Cool. Like if it wasn't for retarded shows like this, they'd be a witch. That's the kind of cool that they be.

[A]

We're talking to you, Nancy.

[B]

Nancy. Huh? All right, so I'm a weird autistic lady. Also, since it's a max security, it's also where they'd hold all the criminally insane type inmates or like, inmates with mental issues that had them had to stay confined. Okay.

[A]

Okay. All right.

[B]

Except for whatever reason, they would randomly release some of these mentally unwell people into the general population. Like they were giving them a trial run or something.

[A]

Oh, Heather's. Heather is here. Heather, welcome to this. I'm sorry. Heather frying chicken.

[B]

She works at a Zaxby's.

[A]

That really cuts it down.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Could be anywhere close.

[B]

There's a Zaxby's not far from here. I've stopped there before and had a good time with it, you know, just eating chicken.

[A]

It's a good store.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, it is really good.

[A]

Okay, we're gonna go through every Zaxby's.

[B]

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[A]

This is Heather.

[B]

No, I'm saying, like, that's what we'll ask when we get to Zaxby's.

[A]

He's like, yeah. I was like, I'm looking for a Heather B.

[B]

We're going to find one every single time we show up.

[A]

To Jersey.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Okay. All right, all right.

[B]

So except for whatever reason, they would release these mentally unwell people to the general population, like they were giving them a trial run or something. It was always these schizophrenic people who they just decide were safe to put in an open bay. I've seen so many people just sit there and have conversations with themselves. Full blown, active dialogue with different voices. Like I'm sitting there watching several people have a conversation out loud, but it's just one person that's doing the talking.

[A]

So Heather. Heather makes a great point. There is one of me in every supermarket.

[B]

Oh, yeah, 100%. I had six of you in Pathmark. Yeah.

[A]

Not easy to manage.

[B]

Yeah. Overnight shift, you know, the cash registers. So goes on to say they would argue with themselves and have whole different expressions and speaking patterns. One of them used to even talk about me to the other person in their head they were talking to. They would whisper back and forth about me. But it was just this one huge fat lady with several people. Different 7. Several different people living inside of her. Some of them were harmless. But then there were the ones that weren't. They had a wing of confinement called TCU for specific inmates that were just too crazy to be out of their cells. So they decided to let this big black lady out of tcu. Her name was Izzy.

[A]

What?

[B]

Izzy. What is that short for is Isabelle, probably.

[A]

Oh, Isabella.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Not a common black girl name.

[B]

What is. We talked to Izzy Griffin. What the hell would his.

[A]

He told us, but I don't remember. Oh, no, no. It's like. Wasn't it like a nickname for.

[B]

Oh, it was a nickname. Yeah. Okay. Okay. My bad.

[A]

My cousin's named Izzy.

[B]

I used to know name Izzy, but his name was Israel.

[A]

Israel. I don't know what my cousin's name is. It's just Izzy.

[B]

That's not good. You don't know your cousin's name?

[A]

This first cousin, maybe we kind of. I mean, kind of stay away from him. He's like, got into a lot of drugs, does a lot of weird stuff. He's the dude that is in the town that's always riding the bike. You know that dude? Oh, yeah, that, like, up and down the town they go, there he goes.

[B]

There he goes on his bike again. Where's he going? Nowhere, really.

[A]

Nowhere. Really? Got a job?

[B]

No.

[A]

Just ride.

[B]

It's got great cardio, though.

[A]

Oh, he's got a. He's got a 12 pack. Yeah. See? Izzy be funky, niggas.

[B]

Izzy be Funky. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. 100%. All right. So everyone was afraid of her. Izzy. Everybody was afraid of Izzy. She was tall. Her arms and legs were like tree stumps. She was Caribbean. Her first name was even Islandi.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. It wasn't Isabella.

[B]

Is landy or is that Island?

[A]

Island.

[B]

Island.

[A]

Island.

[B]

Like in. In New Jersey. There's island.

[A]

Thank you. Thanks, Scott.

[B]

Oh, thank you, Top. Oh, wait. What? Mind tripping? You, Scott mind tripping says Alex Stein was a good show with nds. Lol. Thank you, Gu. So, yeah, last night we were on Alex Stein show Prime time with Alex Stein. The episode is up on YouTube. Go check it out and. And blow his comments up with schizophrenic. Make him think we're cool.

[A]

Yeah. Let him know that we're better that we were better at conspiracies.

[B]

Oh, yeah. He's not bad, though. He, like. He knows some stuff. Enough to kind of, you know, keep a conversation going.

[A]

It felt like he was just screaming at me.

[B]

Well, yeah. I mean, I like that.

[A]

All right. Yeah. Never mind.

[B]

I realized she was Caribbean. Her first name was Islandi, or Island Izzy for short. I'm not trying to sound racist, but. But so if that. If that comes across like some kind of thing, I don't mean it to be. I just want you to get the scope of how big and scary this lady was. Oh, so basically you're saying that she had a high propensity for violence. Because of her.

[A]

How many stars? Okay, that's right.

[B]

I'm very sorry.

[A]

Every time they get us on this, like. Like yesterday, the same thing.

[B]

They keep doing it to us. They're doing it to us.

[A]

I'm not gonna submit to this.

[B]

Yeah, they're egging us on.

[A]

The shoes are as far as I go.

[B]

That's it.

[A]

I don't like.

[B]

Those are nice shoes.

[A]

I don't like your shoes.

[B]

I love my shoes. My wife got them for me.

[A]

Keep reading.

[B]

Okay. I don't mean it to be racist, but I am. There is 80 women to an open bay, and every single one of them, no matter how bad there they were, is like, no, she can't be here because of how crazy she was. She would, like, stand over people's beds in the middle of the night and talk to people who weren't there and was never out on the compound for more than two weeks before she would get into some shit and go back to tcu. We were all afraid. Why'd you look at me like that?

[A]

No, no, I'm just okay looking at the shoes, really. So of course.

[B]

So of course they put her in the bed right across from me. Everything was fine for, like, the first six hours. That is not a long time for everything to be fine. And remember, everyone was on high alert. Grown woman women, all telling the officers, this lady cannot be in here with us. And all they would say is, we can't do anything until she does something. This was a routine that went on whenever they would put someone like that in one of the dorms. There was a collection of regular schizophrenics, just normal schizophrenics that would make an appearance for a few days on the compound. Everyone would See 1 of 5 Walking out of confinement with their big bed roll, and every yard would stop and watch in anticipation and dread. Like, what Dorm. Is she coming to? Please don't be ours to please don't. Okay, I see the punctuation issue. And we would all breathe a sigh of relief when they didn't go in our dorm. Except this time, here comes Izzy again.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

In the bathroom in the dorm, the back row of toilets face the showers.

[A]

You think she stank?

[B]

Oh, 100. That thang stank. Yeah, that thing be stanking. That big old Caribbean thing.

[A]

Smelled like. Like clothes that you washed but didn't dry.

[B]

And voodoo.

[A]

And voodoo.

[B]

And voodoo. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Okay, so what happened?

[A]

This is. Wait, there's casual and competitive schizophrenia.

[B]

Oh, yeah. 100%. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

There's minor league, and then there's, you know, there's the big leagues. So the toilets that face the showers don't have doors. That sucks. So you're just, like, watching people shower while you take a. That's a bummer. It's just a row of metal toilets with, like, half a concrete wall in between each one. So you could look to your left and right and see somebody else's head sitting on the toilet. And you better get used to it, because people will just walk up and ask you for coffee while taking a. Eventually, it won't even phase you. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's how I remember getting into general population. And the whole shower area is just a big, open, super cool area.

[A]

Yeah. Not a fan of that. Didn't like that. Don't like the locker room stuff. I like my own space.

[B]

Yeah. I never was into, like, even in gym class, I wouldn't do that. I'd be like, no, I'm not swanging dick around these people swinging pecker. I'm trying.

[A]

He's trying.

[B]

The showers you're facing are just like a saloon. Swinging doors on each stall with barely any privacy. The prison showers are a horrific story all in themselves. Stories for other times. Oh, please tell us those stories.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

I was using the bathroom, and I stood up, flushed the turlet, and started to walk down the aisle of turlets and showers when one of the saloon shower doors swings open with brute force. And that big black lady named Izzy jumped out in front of me, got in my face and said, and you next, bitch. But I didn't flinch. I just thought to myself, that's nice.

[A]

That's so Heather.

[B]

That's so Heather. Yeah, so Heather. And kept walking. I was operating on this weird prison autopilot that I can't explain. Thinking back through all I can compare. Oh, I'm sorry. Thinking back to All I can compare it to is that scene in the first Jurassic park where Dennis Nerdy sees the dilo. Dilaposaurus. Dilaposaurus. I think a dilophosaurus. Dilaposaurus when he gets stuck in the mud.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

When he gets stuck in the mud. Not the part where the dinosaur sprays poison at him. The part before when he sees it looking at him, tells him that's nice, and then walks away. That was me, but I'm a skinny white lady with glasses.

[A]

This is actually a great comment from Z man. Raven would totally ask Top where the coffee is while he's taking a shit.

[B]

That's not true. I've taken wood a lot of liberties in your home. I know exactly coffee is.

[A]

He has asked me. You have? That's something.

[B]

Oh, oh, well, yeah. Through the door.

[A]

Well, yeah, yeah, but that's as good. I mean, if there was no door.

[B]

Well, I gotta ask you where stuff is at. You see, and let's be honest, you're not taking a. You're tweeting.

[A]

No, no. While you're shitting.

[B]

I'm not looking for the coffee while I'm shitting.

[A]

You're thinking about the coffee.

[B]

I'm thinking about the coffee.

[A]

Heather's asking us to keep reading.

[B]

Heather. Of course I can.

[A]

What?

[B]

Get to that. Hey, no spoilers, Heather. Don't spoil.

[A]

We won't pull it up, but let's. Let's keep going.

[B]

I wash my hands real quick and I go and sit on my bed back in the main part of the dorm and think about whether or not being next is something I need to consider. And Izzy goes and sits on her bed across the row from me with her arms crossed. I get up and head back towards the bathrooms to tell my friend Tiffany what just happened because I'm weirded out. Kind of unrelated, but weird, but Tiffany looks exactly like the Tiffany who swore the motherfucker on the plane wasn't real. Oh, and that always bothers me that they have the same first name and look alike, but she's in prison this whole time. And I know it ain't her, but I do see random people from prison all the time now as background people in my regular life, but I'm sure that's just ptsd, as I've been home for several years. How long were you in prison, Heather? You're in the. In the thingy. Maybe you said it in the beginning, but how. How long were you away?

[A]

New conspiracy theory.

[B]

Yeah, people in prison, they're cloning them and then putting their clones out in public for background.

[A]

Actors, dog, Maybe.

[B]

Why not?

[A]

Why not? Npc? Maybe. This explains the NPC phenomenon. People in prison from, like, you know, whatever she was doing. Stealing metal.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, why wouldn't you. That chick, though. The. The. The chick from the plane. It doesn't look like her. Like, the one that's doing the rounds and making appearances, and it just doesn't look like the original chick.

[A]

She follows me and I don't like it.

[B]

Yeah, I like.

[A]

I kind of want to ask her, what's wrong with you? But I'm like, I just. I just don't.

[B]

Well, people have asked her and she's like, no, it was nothing. We all jumped to lizard person during that time. It's very much like the Miami mall situation where it was like Nephilim and it was like, well, why that leap? We all leapt to, like, lizard person. She saw a shape shifting lizard person, even though what she said was like, that motherfucker's not real. Is like. Is that what happened?

[A]

Are we still live?

[B]

I don't know. Everything froze up. That was a scary noise. What happened here? What was that noise? Was that you?

[A]

No.

[B]

Nancy, can you hear us? Switch WI FI channel due to signal performance. Oh, I think you got by the WI fi. I can hear you. Oh, you can hear us. Okay, good. I guess that means the audience.

[A]

Can you see us?

[B]

Yes. Did you make music happen? Huh? Maybe. Oh, man. A bunch of things just happened at once, and that scared the crap out of me. Why is it. Why is the. Is our. Is our video frozen for you? No, you're good. Oh. Oh, okay. Well, whatever's happening is only happening for us, which is reassuring right now. Our. Our screen is frozen. We look great, though, on the screen that's frozen.

[A]

Well, it's weird.

[B]

All right, well, while you try to shovel troubleshoot to maybe get this back to us, it might just be the TV that we're looking at is frozen. Maybe if we turn it back on and off. Anywho. All right, so let's get back to it. I see. I do see random background people from prison all the time. I was kind. It was kind of dumb for me to go back in the bathroom because I thought though, because Izzy got up and followed me. Oh, so you basically just walked into getting cornered in the bathroom. That's no good. Where did that go? Because Izzy followed me. I should mention that in prison, I was like £125. I remember always being hungry, and I'm not even really. I'm not really even aggressive at all. So I don't know why this lady decided that I was next. Oh, but she was right.

[A]

I was next.

[B]

I was next. Damn it. Dude. I'm walking in the bathroom and I feel something slam into the side of my head. That's not good. Okay, good. We're back. Now I could see us. Scroll up. I want to see if Heather said anything about how long. No, it's just gonna. It's gotta. It's. We can't see it. Heather, if you told us how long you've been in prison. Say it again. Because our live chat got all messed up.

[A]

Oh, here we go. It's. Everything is back.

[B]

Okay, Everything's back. See if you could find Heather. I'd love to know how long she was in prison. I know she's working at the chicken joint right now.

[A]

She's probably gonna get her fired.

[B]

Yeah, I don't want her manager, too.

[A]

And she'll have to steal more metal.

[B]

Okay. I did five on a seven year sentence. Okay. Geez, man.

[A]

Damn, that's a long time.

[B]

All right, well, let's. Let's read about her getting the shit beat out of her. Are you ready?

[A]

Yes, please. This is my favorite part. I'm not even ready.

[B]

She was next. I'm walking in the bathroom and I feel something stick, slam into the side of my head. And next thing I know, my feet are out from under me and I'm flying through the air. And as quick as I'm flying through the air, now suddenly I'm on the floor of the handicap shower stall, and I'm looking up at Izzy standing over me. Her eyes were all black. Damn, that was maybe the most racist thing you've said. And I see her mouth moving, so I know she's saying some shit to me, but her giant thanos looking arms are moving, and I know they're hitting me, but I'm also in shock that this whole event is currently unfolding and time is, like, standing still with this possessed lady pummeling me and the side of my face hurts. And we told the guards she couldn't be in here, and now I'm the one about to, like, die in the fucking shower.

[A]

It's crazy.

[B]

It's. I think I yelled something at her, like, what did I do to you? That's a great question.

[A]

She could be described. It could be describing, like, an experience with somebody that's demonically possessed or just like a run of the mill experience.

[B]

Of being in New Jersey, being in New York. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Honestly, this is. Feels like high school. What are you talking about?

[B]

Yeah. This feels a lot like just a casual stroll in the middle of the day through Elizabeth, New Jersey.

[A]

Yeah. Like, why are you being violent?

[B]

Why are you trying to kill me right now? Yeah.

[A]

Like, no reason, really.

[B]

I remember a few girls later saying to me, why didn't you fight back? I would have hit that bitch back. I love that. I love that when people say, oh, God, I wouldn't. Like, sometimes when you're blindsided by a thing your body doesn't. It's one thing to, like, square up with an individual. It's another thing to be blindsided by an arm that is, like, the density of a log.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Coming off of a big Caribbean. You know, like, your body isn't quite ready. And sometimes where your mind is at, too.

[A]

But also, you should have been ready when she told.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Honestly, Heather, I would have been on guard.

[A]

I mean, but that's just, you know.

[B]

Yeah. You shouldn't have went to the bathroom where there was really no other way out except for the way you came in. Yeah.

[A]

You got to be watching your back.

[B]

Yeah. All right. But I was in shock. And also, she came up behind me and stunned me. I was caught completely off guard. Also, I know when to stand down. And this is one of those times where you just curl up in a ball and pray for it to be over because, you know, she has the strength of a monster. The officers ran in and cuffed us both and took us both to confinement for fighting. And of course, the racist female officers in the confinement use that as a fun time to make fun of me and asked why I was fighting people. That was hilarious to them. And even though I wasn't actually fighting, when, like, that happens, everyone involved goes under investigation, which is why I had to go as well. Yeah, that's kind of how it is in school, too. It's like, it doesn't matter who's getting picked on. If you. It was shit. It doesn't even. You don't even have to fight back. It's just if you're involved in an altercation or you are the recipient of an ass whooping, you're both gonna get written up. You know, my kid last year, I think, got in some trouble for fighting somebody. He, like, punched him in the stomach and punched him in the nose. And we're like, he wouldn't just do that. Like, he's not gonna. And so we asked, like, what happened? And it's like, okay, well, first he came up and he shut my kid's laptop. And then when he Went to go open the laptop. The kid knocked all his papers.

[A]

Dayquil.

[B]

No, no, it wasn't Dayquil. Then he knocked all the papers and shit off my. My son's desk. And then when my son went to go pick up the papers and shit off the. Off the floor, then he just started slapping him in the face, in the head. And so then my son got up and punched him in the stomach and punched him in the face. And then he got written up. And my question was, why was this allowed to get to that extent where. Where is the teacher? What's going on? But so, yeah, it just doesn't matter.

[A]

Why my kids don't go to school.

[B]

That's why.

[A]

It's just. It's literally what I'm reading here. This, I think, is a Michael Malice quote, but I'll butcher it. School is like prison. It's the only place that you will experience like that you are sure to experience physical violence at.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because you're locked in there. It's a prison. There's. There's, you know, bars on the windows. You sit down, do as you're told. Bell rings, do the next thing, it's like.

[B]

Yeah, I would say that in my school experience, I have been in north of 15 fights. And outside of my school experience, I've been in one altercation that took place like that that wasn't in a gym.

[A]

I've been in one. Yeah, same thing. One fight outside of school. Every other fight has been. I've paid to be.

[B]

Yeah. To fight these people.

[A]

Yeah, to fight them in a place. One fight was at a catering hole. Some guy punched me and then I punched him back. And it was a whole thing. Yeah, but it was like. It was a whole thing. But, yeah, in school it was a common occurrence.

[B]

I also fought at a catering hall.

[A]

Yeah, it.

[B]

Well, it was a McDonald's, but yeah, I would call that a catering hole.

[A]

I was working at a catering hole.

[B]

I was not working at that McDonald's just to be.

[A]

Guy said some. Some gay to me. He said, I can't go back to Brooklyn with Brooklyn without your head.

[B]

Like, really gay. Yeah.

[A]

I was like, that's a papoose line. But I was like, all right. I mean.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

Do what you got to do. And then he was like, I'm gonna fight you, papoose.

[B]

Isn't that what I'm drinking?

[A]

You know what?

[B]

Actually, that says pample moose.

[A]

Pampas. I mean, same thing.

[B]

Hey, anybody in the chat know what a pample moose is? Because I don't.

[A]

Yeah, I'M too lazy. Nancy.

[B]

Nancy, can you Google what a. Good job, Nancy. Thank you. Good job, guys. Nancy is. Now she's doing elevator music when we don't stop ranting for so long.

[A]

Yeah, my bad. I got into a fight. They said it means grapefruit, but please keep reading.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Chocolate cam. All right, here we go.

[B]

On the way into confinement, you also get strip search, which is also a thing you're used to. And Izzy is in the cell next to me yelling, I swear on my life, if I ever see your white ass on the compound, I'm a Beacho ass for the rest of my life. For real? For real. Or something along those lines. The guards are just laughing. I still can't believe this shit is going on. I'm in shock. I still can't believe this is going on.

[A]

She still can't believe.

[B]

I cannot believe this is. Eventually, this. This gets cleared up. An investigation gets done to see what took place. So they do figure out that I got jumped by the crazy lady they let out of tcu, but they still have this whole process they have to go through.

[A]

Hold on a second. This is a good comment. A papoose board is something you strap a patient in when you need to stop them from moving. Oh, like. Like when the ambulance comes and they strap your head down. That's what that is.

[B]

Yeah. Or like what they put a Captain America in when they had to inject him with the. The growth hormones from the miracle grow. Oh, whoa. Wow.

[A]

Hold on.

[B]

Hold up.

[A]

Wait. Yeah. No. You don't know who papoose is? He's like an American.

[B]

He's a rapper. Yeah, I know that. But I just, like. I never stopped to be like, what is a papoose? It's interesting that that's a papoose. This guy quoted us the music.

[A]

I'm just saying.

[B]

All right.

[A]

Gayest possible thing you could do.

[B]

I never really remember papoose being.

[A]

Have you ever quoted a rap song to somebody and then challenge them to a fight?

[B]

Oh, no, no.

[A]

And then them laugh at you. And I went to turn away, and then he. Then he threw a punch.

[B]

I appreciate the commitment.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. He was serious. I him up, but he was serious. He cursing again.

[B]

Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Okay, so they realized that I got jumped by the crazy lady that they let out of tcu, but they still have to go through this whole process they have to go through that involves packing all your stuff and getting statements and doing a whole lot of nothing. So this was just a story about how I. And this is a story all about how my life got. Okay. This is a story of how I ended up in the confinement cell in the first place. This isn't even the actual story. Holy. I feel like I've been reading this for 38 minutes. Except to set the tone and add background. Izzy went on to other adventures. She actually went home and came back while I was still serving the same sentence. I know this because she assaulted an officer when she came back. And they had to unload the riot pepper spray on her, which is stronger than just regular pepper spray that they referred to as the Black Jesus.

[A]

Whoa.

[B]

Interesting.

[A]

That's. That sounds intense.

[B]

Maybe because they would pray to not get sprayed with it.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

Because she wouldn't stay down. Every time they sprayed her, she kept getting up like the Terminator. That was later on, though.

[A]

Oh, they called her the Black Jesus.

[B]

No, I don't think they did. That was later on, though. Towards the end of my sentence. Let's get back to the confinement cell. Because Izzy threatened to beat my ass for the rest of my life. They thought they should put me in protective custody. All that means is they keep you in confinement in a confinement cell, and that's where you live now. They don't actually invest anything once you go to PC, which I didn't understand what was going on. So you're kept in this weird confinement where you're not actually in trouble, but you're locked in a two man cell 24 7. Good God. That is torture. Yeah, dude. Okay, so hold on. Okay, hold on. So you go to confinement, and because of that, you're.

[A]

I like how this is being written. Oh, wait, Nancy is actually.

[B]

Oh, Nancy.

[A]

You could say something.

[B]

I like that she's. Yeah, Nancy. What do you want us to do?

[A]

We're listening.

[B]

Get the pores out. Well, Nancy doesn't like the pores.

[A]

Sorry, guys, you gotta go.

[B]

All right, guys, you heard it. Nancy said it. If you want to continue listening to Whatever Happens to Catalytic Converter Heather, you got to go over to patreon.com forward/ephilim death Squad. And these camera shots are killing me. Sign up for whatever tier you'd like. We'll see you in a couple minutes. If not, I'm going to assume you report, and that's disgusting to me. So.

[A]

No longer a fan of Nancy?

[B]

No longer a fan of Nancy. See, this is what happens, Nancy. You get. You get to. Once you're on the show, people turn on you.

[A]

Yeah. See how fleeting the popularity is?

[B]

That's it. They love you when you're one of them. And then once you get a little bit of, you know, voice time, FaceTime, whatever. They hate you. They're gonna hate you, Nancy. They're all going to turn on you. You. Yeah, good.

[A]

I should delete it on YouTube.

[B]

Oh. All right, so let's get on to this. Okay, so you're.

[A]

You're.

[B]

You. You go to confinement. And because of that, your bed and your drawer or your box of property and all the shit, all your. Everything you have has to get packed up and cataloged. So if you don't have people around you who are decent, then everybody steals your. Like, you did something, so you got your ass kicked, and then you get your stolen. And then you get to be in basically solitary confinement.

[A]

Sounds great.

[B]

That is crazy. And. And Heather clarified. She said spray them with black Jesus.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So yeah, Yeah. I guess it's because they pray like, no, not. Not. Don't do it.

[A]

Not the black Jesus.

[B]

Oh, we gotta take this comment off. Off the thing. Okay, so everybody steals your. But nobody did that to me because they were all shocked about what happened, too. And nobody with my. They actually went and got the stuff I wasn't supposed to have and kept it safe for me because the guards your up on purpose.

[A]

Oh, my goodness, David.

[B]

Well, I'm. Language reading. I'm reading. It'll mess up the flow. I gotta keep going. Like, if you have artwork or photos or shivs, they'll purposely spill stuff all over it, rip it and ruin it. Your stuff gets packed up and inventoried, and eventually they bring it, bring you your bedding and your clothes for your cell. You wait there for however many weeks while they investigate, and then there is a hearing. Then you go. You get your sentence and either go back to the compound or do time in confinement. I was in that cell by myself for two weeks before they bought that little girl in. What?

[A]

Whoa, wait a second.

[B]

All right. That was like. All right. I didn't have a bunkie, and I hadn't spoken to anyone. The only interaction with people was during medication and chow. They open up the little hatch on the door every other day. You get to shower if you want, and the officers cuff you from behind just to walk a few feet from your cell to the shower.

[A]

And this is for you getting beat up, getting.

[B]

Well, you shouldn't have got beat up, Heather. You ever think of that? Behave. You get to walk a few feet from the shower, and the shower is a cell that they lock you in for a few minutes or a few hours, depending on when they feel like, coming to get you out. What the. Let me ask you something, Heather. Did you shower a lot or did you were your. You were stinky. I think it was. It was optional, honestly. I think I'd be so pissed off, I'd be like, you know what? Everybody else is gonna suffer. I'm gonna smell like ass.

[A]

Yeah. If you're gonna have to come in here and grab me, you're gonna have.

[B]

To think you're gonna hit a wall of scent.

[A]

This is why I don't understand, like, if I'm fighting in the ufc, I wouldn't have showered for a while.

[B]

Oh, north, south position.

[A]

Just in general. They make you clip your nails and all that, but, like, yeah, you're gonna.

[B]

Get in my guard. You're gonna.

[A]

If I'm fighting. If I'm fighting Khabib or something like that, right?

[B]

It's like, dude, you really want to smash.

[A]

Dude, you wanna. You wanna wrestle?

[B]

Yeah. I didn't mean to say that.

[A]

It's gonna be nasty.

[B]

Oh, Heather says it's only like that in confinement. You can shower normal in the compound. No, but I'm saying, since it was so inconvenient in. In. Did you opt to shower every other day or were you like. You know what, dude? It doesn't even matter. Everyone still watches you girls be shower stalkers.

[A]

Weird.

[B]

Half the girls just skip it and use the sink in the cell because it's easier than having to play the psychological games the guards put you through just to go through the process. You sleep all day and stay up all night in there. It's a party, dude. It's because they give you dinner at, like, 3:00pm, so by the time it's bedtime, you're so hungry that you can't just sleep. So your body trains itself to occupy yourself all night, and then you sleep in between meals during the day.

[A]

Whoa.

[B]

Except your bed has to be made and kept inspection ready between the hours of 7 and 5. So now you're sleeping during the day between your meals, but not. You're not allowed to use your blankets, and you have to be in your full uniform, dude. Yeah. I remember when I was in jail for the. The short stint that I was. They don't turn those lights off, like, until really late or. No, no, it's that they turn them on stupid early. The fluorescent bulbs, if you're on the top bunk. I was in the top bunk. The fluorescent bulbs in the top bunk, meaning right in front of your eyes, turn on, like, something crazy, like 3 or 4am Damn. And then they just stay on. Which I found the workaround was I would just take a tube sock and lay it across my eyes. But, like, it's all, like, weird psychological torture games. Prison was really just full of a bunch of stupid and inconvenient rules. Everything was 3D chess. Something as simple as wanting to use the good shower that had water pressure required maximum manipulation. Pause for part two. Should we.

[A]

Should we wait? Are we listening to her?

[B]

Do you want us to pause? Who's pausing?

[A]

I don't know who's pausing? I'm wrapped up in this story, and now I feel like, do me a favor.

[B]

I'm gonna stay on that sentence. Scroll down, see how much more Are we at the halfway mark? What's even going on?

[A]

No, not even close.

[B]

No way. Really? Dude, I feel like I am plowing through this story.

[A]

Yeah. I don't even know where we're at now.

[B]

I don't know where I am, period. Okay, all right, all right, all right. I'm getting back to it. I'm going back. The guards pretty much just leave you alone. That's a scary thing too. I don't know what's going on.

[A]

Like, oh, no, you got the hook.

[B]

The guards pretty much just leave you alone, though. In confinement, they just have to walk through every 30 minutes. And then you got counted. And then you got counted at various times of the day as well. After being there for two weeks by myself, they put this girl in the cell with me. I had learned to occupy myself at this point and the routine and had a routine. I was trying to get them to let me out. I almost tried to get them. Okay. And having a bunky in confinement can go really well, or it can be the worst thing that's ever happened. I can understand that.

[A]

I'm plowing through this story, Raven, on paragraph two.

[B]

That's how I feel when I'm just reading in general. I'm like, this is cooking, dude. And it's like, this is literally the just introduction of the book. Okay. So, yeah, I could imagine that having a bunky could either go really well or really, really horrifying. And, yeah, that makes a lot of sense, especially in solitary confinement. I imagine you could probably end up killing a person being locked in a room with them for 24, seven for two weeks. I had the first few Game of Thrones books I had read, and I had this origami book. I was learning how to make all these little aminals. That's cool. That's adorable. Keep in mind, the entire two weeks, the officers don't have any issues from me. I'm quiet. So they put this lady in my cell and she's like a tiny bag of bones, like a hundred pounds. When they are opening your cell, they have this whole process where you have to go stand in the back of the cell with your hands behind your back and face the wall as they bring in the other person. They don't even have this girl's cuffs on and she's already asking me if I believe in God. Oh, that's interesting.

[A]

Lowercase.

[B]

Got to capitalize that G, girl.

[A]

Well, what does she mean?

[B]

What does she mean? I'm immediately annoyed because that's a many layered question that you don't start out with. Yeah, yeah. Especially when they're just putting you in there. You don't just come into some random person's cell who hasn't spoken to another human in weeks and immediately get right in her face with that. Or maybe that's exactly what you get.

[A]

Yeah. So the girl still had her cuffs on.

[B]

Now they said they didn't bring her.

[A]

No, no, she said she hadn't even taken the cuffs off yet and the girl's already chatting her up. That is kind of like.

[B]

That's fascinating.

[A]

I get. I get why you're like, come on, come on, lady.

[B]

It's not even that. That it was like a conversation I wasn't open to having. This was a girl who was in the process of going into psychosis because of course, after everything that had just happened, then they would put a girl in my cell who immediately decided that God had sent her to that cell to save me. She starts telling me she's here for me and that she loves me and Jesus loves me. And she kept walking towards me. Keep in mind, this is a small two man cell with two metal beds attached to the wall. And next to one of the beds. My bed. My bed, bitch, is also the toilet, sink.

[A]

The toilet sink. The same thing.

[B]

I'm hoping she just means, like, there's a sink and a toilet and. Not that she.

[A]

I think she means it's the same.

[B]

She's washing her.

[A]

Damn, that's rough. So why did the. Why did that girl go into the. She didn't explain why, Right?

[B]

Yeah. I mean, hopefully she gets to it. Yeah, a very small window there too, but you can't see much out of it because it's this weird. You can only see light and dark. Okay. Oh, I think I know what you mean. Yeah. Like they had it. It's like painted with something. Yeah. And the door which has a tiny square window on it and the rectangle hatch that the food goes through. Also, it's freezing in confinement when they bring you. When they first bring you in, they take forever to bring your property to you. That includes your bedding and blankets and clothes. So you're just sitting in a freezing cold cell with a mattress. In the first hour, this girl slowly walked towards me. I was sitting on my bed learning to make an origami kangaroo. Nice.

[A]

That's significant in the story. So yes, probably.

[B]

And she said my name. At this point, we had finally, just finally exchanged greetings. She kept looking at me and saying, heather, look at me. Look at me, Heather. Oh, God, bro. And my dumb ass. Feeling uncomfortable as hell and not knowing what to do. All awkward. Looks up at her and she's like, I love you. And she keeps saying it, and she's saying it like she's talking to a little girl and she's bending down in my face and kind of saying it. And I'm thinking to myself, what the is happening right now? And she starts saying I love you to me in baby talk. That's weird. And Jesus loves me. Also in baby talk. There was a lot of religious psychosis going on in that prison. Yet another story. It's like Only the first 45 minutes of time with her and it's complete chaos. She starts singing to me. She didn't have a bad voice, but stuff like that makes me uncomfortable. Agree, dude. I mean, that's pretty.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Being locked in a cell for two weeks alone and then having a 100 pound woman enter it and start singing to me in the first 45 minutes also makes me uncomfortable.

[A]

Would you rather her be there or Izzy?

[B]

Oh, yeah, I think we know the answer to that.

[A]

I don't know. I don't know where the story's going.

[B]

Look, she's like, it's 14 pages. Of course I get to it. Top, you dumbass. Of course I explained it. All right, so she starts singing to me. She doesn't have a bad voice, but it makes. It's making me uncomfortable. Even having Happy birthday sung to me makes me feel awkward because I have to sit there and smile while all these people sing a song to me. Yeah, I agree. It is a little bit uncomfortable to have that happen. Then when they stop singing, it's like, okay, that made me feel bad, actually. But no one is allowed to actually acknowledge that.

[A]

I think that date. If David was a girl, his name would be Heather. You'd be a Heather.

[B]

Well, I resent that.

[A]

You're a Heather.

[B]

Well, okay. I mean, this. This Heather's pretty base.

[A]

No, I'm saying this is very much like you.

[B]

Oh. Well, the. The things that I find awkward. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't like, Happy Birthday is one that I feel like is awkward. So anyway, I sat there and politely listened to her sing. What. What did she sing? One of those things about prison is if you don't know how to tell people no or shut the up.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They're gonna get away with whatever they want.

[A]

That's the thing about life.

[B]

Yeah. It took me a long time to learn that because I was raised by women. And. And so it was. I didn't learn that until I was like. Until I was a father.

[A]

Oh. Yeah. People think I'm rude now when I just be like, no.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

They're like, why are you saying no? Like, you can't say no in that situation. I just said no.

[B]

You have to.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's. You know, when you go on like, tick tock and women are like, I'm protecting my peace.

[A]

Same thing.

[B]

Same thing. But not gay.

[A]

Yeah. Just simply, no. No, thank you.

[B]

Not at all. That's like, whenever my son starts doing things that I'm gonna, like, get upset, I'm like that. Stop. No. Done.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Your room.

[A]

Roll up a newspaper.

[B]

You. But you also have to learn to be patient as well. And as much as I wanted to tell this girl to shut up, I understood I was likely going to be stuck with her for at least a week.

[A]

Damn.

[B]

Eventually, she. After she calmed down, I tried to explain her. You can't just come into my cell and bombard somebody with all that. She was still fairly new to prison and also was just a kid. I tried so hard to be patient with her. I never even told her I disagreed with her. I never told her what I believed. She just decided I needed to be saved and God had sent her for that purpose. Some time had gone by and when we would talk, she would make passive aggressive comments at me. In regards to our conversation, she told me about how she was bought to confinement for repeatedly telling her dorm sergeant that she rebukes him in the name of Jesus. All right, I kind of like this.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I start to wonder why the officer hadn't tried to put her in psych rather than punish her. They still haven't bought the girl her property or her bedding. And she's laying on the cold mattress, freezing. She only has a short sleeve prison blues on since she's new and I feel bad for her even though she's getting on my nerves. And I have been in her position and have been in her position, though. And I have an extra thermals. So I give her a thermal shirt. She puts it on, and I tell her she can have it. She says, thank you, and lays there on her bed. A few minutes of silence go by and I go back to making my origami kangaroo. Suddenly the girl gets up, takes the shirt back off and actually throws it at me. Not even like a light toss. It was like, get this away from me type of thing. And she says, my God keeps me warm. All right.

[A]

Well, I don't know. See, I'm. I'm concerned about the punctuation still.

[B]

Oh, yeah, the lowercase G. God might be on purpose.

[A]

Heather says in the chat she was in her early 20s. I mean, by just a kid, I was in my 30s.

[B]

Right? Yeah. I look at. I look at. Yeah, I look at K. People in their early 20s and I say, children.

[A]

Child.

[B]

And I was a little surprised by this because it's really cold in there. This has never happened to me before. Nothing I have ever experienced has prepared me for this. So I calmly pick up the thermal, fold it, put it on her foot, on the foot of her bed, and say, okay, but if you decide you want it, it's here. And I go back to my bed, make my origami kangaroo, and the shirt hits me in the back of the head as I'm sitting down, and she yells at me, my God keeps me warm, and curls herself back into a cold, shivering ball. I really want to explain to her that my compassion and desire to do the right thing by offering her my thermal was how her God was trying to keep her warm. Oh, all right.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But she wasn't ready to hear that. She Instead. So instead she's an. I don't really understand how in the course of an hour or so, she went from singing to me to hating me. I still haven't even told her what I believed. I didn't even know what I believed. And I would have loved for somebody to save me, but that's not what this was. Eventually the guards bring her stuff and she makes her bed and has a blanket, but now she has her Bible, too. She hasn't been in prison long enough to have acquired anything. She had her uniform, ketchup, mustard packets, church pamphlets, and her Bible. She started yelling or she started up mustard pack.

[A]

These are things that.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Like, I remember when I was in jail, you know, they give you, like, these really shitty bologna sandwiches. It's really just like, white bread with bologna.

[A]

Get, like, mustard within.

[B]

Well, like, I didn't have mustard, but, like, somebody else had mustard, and they gave it to me. I think it's because he wanted me to join, like, his white gang or something like that. So he's kind of buttering me up. He gave me mustard, and he gave me a National Geographics magazine, which I read from COVID to cover. And that mustard, like, changed the bologna sandwich game because you're eating, like, tasteless slop in there mostly. So putting the mustard packet on there was, like, I never even realized. Like. Like, this truly is the perfect amount of mustard. Like, in that little rectangular pack within it is the perfect amount of mustard. Only when you live a life of decadence do you need more mustard than what is in the pack.

[A]

Yeah. Dude, I was at Costco yesterday. She's about to give us the bell.

[B]

I know. I'm scared.

[A]

Damn it.

[B]

What about Costco? What happened at Costco?

[A]

At Costco, it was just a lot of. There's a lot of stuff at Costco.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I was like, wow, the decadence.

[B]

But the decadence in Costco is wild. We gotta get back to it. We're getting back to it. Sorry. That's a lot of. Costco's a really crazy place. So. So instead, she's an.

[A]

I'm sorry.

[B]

I lost my spot. And I'm really freaking out right now. So they bought her the ketchup, the mustard packets, church pamphlets, and her Bible. She started telling me I had the devil in me, and I was trying to talk to her rationally. I'm really getting upset, though, at this point because it's been a few hours, and like I said, you stay up all night. And this girl was getting more and more aggressive with her speech and rude and exclaiming all about how my life got turned upside and all about how I was going to hell. Damn. You just offered her your thermals.

[A]

I like the. The ramp up in music, too.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm starting to have an anx. I'm starting to have anxiety. And she can't just be quiet. Well, that's just women.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And there was a difference between. If someone is reading quietly aloud to themselves. I get that some people need to read out loud to retain what they are reading. And there is a way to do that quietly, but. But out loud to yourself. That's literally me. I have to do that.

[A]

But then there's aggressively.

[B]

Then there's aggressive reading the Bible at someone and come in a commanding tone. But there's really no way that I can say anything or ask for help without being the one who looks crazy, is there? What do I say? Make her stop reading the Bible at me. These people haven't heard a peep from me in weeks. I behave and don't ever make a scene. This girl is pacing the cell, reading the bible out loud. And one point, she perches herself on the sink like a owl or pterodactyl. Great spelling of the word pterodactyl.

[A]

Yeah, she's really up on her dinosaur. Yeah, Lore.

[B]

She's got a lot of dinosaur lore going on. Well, when you have nothing to do for five to seven years, you like reading stuff. Read about dinosaurs. She perches up on her toes, holding her Bible, reading passages at me in this small, tiny, confined space. Man, that's incredible.

[A]

I gotta say real quick.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Somebody said Nancy needs a chirp.

[B]

Oh, don't give her the chirp. All right, fine. Nancy has a chirp.

[A]

She's got a chirp.

[B]

We're giving her too much power and she's abusing it.

[A]

She is. We. We talked about Costco for like.

[B]

Okay, okay. So in this confined space, she's on the sink and she's reading like an owl from the Bible. At this point, I'm standing at the door to the cell and I've had my poker face on this.

[A]

I think it's because Nancy knows this is lengthy.

[B]

She knows. Yeah. I mean, honestly, she's doing us a favor. Because if not, this will be a two episoder. This will be promising to Thomases.

[A]

This must get good.

[B]

Must it? Must get good. I mean, it's good. So far I've had my poker face on. This whole time I'm being really passive about this girl. But the officers have to make their rounds every 30 minutes, and when they do, I bang on the door.

[A]

I don't like how each progressive time we've cut to talk, it's been shorter and shorter.

[B]

Yeah. It's like she's hitting the button rapidly. And I. And I tell them they have to put this girl somewhere else. She is making me uncomfortable. And of course it's not received well. Like, who the am I? I'm not just gonna tell them to move her and nothing I say sounds logical. They asked me what she's doing to upset me and I'm having a. A bit of a look of shock or a bit of lock shock. Never heard that.

[A]

Yeah, it's kind of like where you're like, well, I get it.

[B]

Yeah. Which is when you do talk to people. Finally. You talk fast and you sound hysterical, all right? And I was like, she keeps rebuking me in the name of Satan and reading the Bible at me. And she's sitting on the sink. Trust me. They looked at me like I was insane. And the girl suddenly wants to get all offended and upset that I don't want to be in a cell with her. So she goes and sits on the bed like, hey, what are you talking about?

[A]

I love that.

[B]

All sad and pouty. And of course, now I feel like maybe I made a mistake. I hurt the girl's feelings because I fall for that every time. This person I know, I barely know just made me feel suicidal empathy. Jesus. And I second guess everything that just happened, and the officers don't want to hear it. So now I'm back to trying to get along with this little girl again. This all started at about 4pm, by the way. So by 8, she had her sheets. It was probably a little while after that. Now the officers talk to her and act like I'm just being immature and don't want to hear her read the Bible. And even the girl has enough to sense. Like, enough sense to be like, I didn't do anything. She's crazy about me, man. This is like. This is a nightmare scenario.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, this is what you see in horror movies. I was pissed off. Like, you know when the kid is possessed, and then you're like, the kid is trying to kill the cat. And then the kid's like, what are you talking about? And everyone's like, stop being an.

[A]

I would never kill.

[B]

I would never kill the cat. I was pissed off about this got turned around. Wait. I was pissed off this got turned around on me. But maybe this will be better now that they spoke to her. All right.

[A]

Reasonable. Think so.

[B]

It's reasonable. At some point after the girl was sitting on her bed, I go back to what I was doing. Origami, kangaroos. She snaps her Bible shut really loud on purpose. Loud. And says, I'm just gonna have to do this myself, even if it takes all night.

[A]

Holy. That's. That's not good. That's not good. And what makes it worse is that, like, she can be easily. She can, like, easily overpower this girl. I feel like she's, like, a little.

[B]

Girl, but if she does is, she's screwed.

[A]

But I wouldn't even want to mess with it because it's just like.

[B]

Well, it's like, if you do assault her, you're ruined. You're.

[A]

Well, that too. But it's just like the imposing fear of what this girl is doing psychologically.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

To her is, like, crazy.

[B]

It's such a bummer, dude. Two weeks without human interaction and then you get the sink owl.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What in the world, dude, we're moving. We're going.

[A]

Nancy. And she has this determined look on her face.

[B]

Where is that? She snaps her. Okay. And she has this determined look on her face. Her intention being that she was going to save my soul no matter what.

[A]

That's what she meant by that. I'm just gonna do this myself.

[B]

Meant by that. The next few hours, she proceeded to chant Bible verses at me non stop. Literally non stop. She would not stop. She would not stop.

[A]

Well, did it work? You're here.

[B]

When you are stuck in a small cell with someone, you guys have no food, you're starving, it's cold. Bible verses are being aggressively chanted at you. You will go crazy. I don't care who you are. But I already suffer from terrible anxiety. The type of anxiety that makes you steal catalytic converters. And I was also at this point in my life where the place I was, the Bible was used by people more as a drug as well as a weapon. And I needed to find spirituality. And I would eventually find my way to where I needed to be. But right now, in that moment, during these few hours, it was just me trapped in a cell, and we were the only two people in the world, and it was like a wizard's battle, man. I can't explain what it's like to circle someone for hours in a tiny concrete cell. Not breaking eye contact while they chant at you. This literally is like the scene where, like, Saruman and Gandalf are fighting in the tower. Shout out to all the Lord of the Rings enjoyers out there.

[A]

Scott asked if Heather is single.

[B]

Scott is aroused. And here's the thing, because I was getting upset and having a panic attack and my heart was pounding and I was shaking and cursing at this girl to shut the up. She thought her exorcism was working. Oh, my God. So the more you react, the more it validates her, the more convicted she is.

[A]

My mom has done this to me.

[B]

She's like, it's working. He's saying, you cut it out.

[A]

Honestly, my mom has gotten me to the point where, like, with this, almost the same techniques, has. Has goaded me into being like, you know what? You know what? Then if that's what you want. The guy did it to me on Ed Mabry's channel.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Is that what you want.

[B]

Now you want me to behave demonically?

[A]

You want me to behave badly? Yeah. I was like, well, now I'm gonna. Now I'm gonna tell you racial slurs, right?

[B]

I'm gonna tell them to you.

[A]

Is this what you want? This is what you.

[B]

Because I was gonna behave before what they want. And it seems like that's what her. Her cellmate wants.

[A]

This is odd. I like. I don't. I don't like the story, but I like where it's going.

[B]

She has this delusional fire in her eyes. It was dark at this point, too, because it was nighttime. Master roster count had gone by. This girl had thrown holy toilet water at me and had her blanket draped over her head and around her shoulders like an evil nun. And she's chanting over and over, I'm banging on the cell door because I've had enough, and I want the officers to come by.

[A]

This is what's got her trapped in solitary. Yeah, she was doing to the officer.

[B]

Yeah, she's. She's the toilet nun.

[A]

She's the toilet nun.

[B]

Holy toilet water. Not only am I banging on my cell door, but the other inmates in their cells are also banging on the doors. It's like a chain reaction. They hear us yelling, so they know some is going on. The officers come by once again, and I end up looking like the one who is the problem. Because every single time the officers come by, the girl knows to shut up and stop trying to exorcise me. This time, though, she's taunting me. I'm at the cell door, and the officers are on the opposite side of the door, and I'm talking to them through the window. This stupid little girl is sitting in the blind spot in the corner on the bed. I have the officers in the door window. To my left, and then to my right corner is the girl sitting there with her blanket over her head in the dark with her Bible open, mouthing the Bible words at me with that fire in her eyes, looking like some horror movie exorcist. She whispers at me, and I can hear the conviction in her voice and the belief that she was really. Or that she really thought she was rebuking me in the news. I'm shaking. My heart is pounding, and the guards can't see her. And she's not actually making noises. She's just mouthing the words, oh, no. And I'm like, you guys don't understand. She's doing it right now. She's doing it right now. She's rebuking me. Oh, my God. Dude. Oh. Oh, my God. I just lost my spec. Give me a second.

[A]

They're looking at me.

[B]

They're looking at.

[A]

Like I'm completely insane.

[B]

And I keep saying, you don't understand. You can't see her from where you are. She's rebuking me. They're telling me to calm down. They're getting really mad at me. They take the girl out of the cell and put her in the shower cell, which they are going to use as a holding cell. But they don't do anything. They just put her in there and leave. There's a main pod for the officers in the middle of all the pods. So that's where the officers mostly go to hide. The whole time they were gone, they had left this girl in the shower cell. And she stood there and continues to chant at me in the cell, facing my direction. I was planning on them not having her come back in. She's really standing there with her face pressed up against the bars. The shower cell bars are bars. They are different than the confinement cell doors and saying exorcism verses in my direction. And everyone in their cells is yelling at her because it's the middle of the night. And even though they're all awake because they're hungry too, they still want her to. To shut the up. The lieutenant comes in now and talks to her. She doesn't talk to me. This is once again being handled. Like, I just didn't like that she was reading the Bible. But also they were telling her, didn't we talk about this? Which means they also knew she was causing a problem. Then they put her right back in the cell. I was really freaked out by now and started accusing them of putting her in there on purpose to with me. They were freaked out by me and saying to each other, they did see my face, how scared I was. Meanwhile, the exorcism continued. The officers left again.

[A]

All right, you want me to.

[B]

Yeah, please take this over. I'm dying over here.

[A]

I love it. I see you struggling at this point. Right? That's us. That's our. That wasn't good. Switch.

[B]

That was good.

[A]

I like how David just gives the.

[B]

Because it's scary.

[A]

It's not. I mean, it's scary.

[B]

It's startling.

[A]

It's odd that you hear it.

[B]

Why wouldn't I hear it? Well.

[A]

I started thinking about all the exorcist movies I'd watch and figured maybe the reason people started shaking and cursing during the exorcism is they're enraged by the inconvenience. They Feel by having biblical commands shouted at you nonstop, and you can't get away from it while someone throws water on you. It is frustrating.

[B]

I would be pretty pissed.

[A]

Like, it's funny how the Bible works, right? Because, like, if we're here and someone's reading it to us and be like, this is great. Thank you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But if you're just throwing it at.

[B]

Me, like, let's say somebody heard too many F bombs in this episode and was like, I think I need an exorcism intervention.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And they just, like, cornered us in here. And we're doing that. Yeah. How. How long would we endure it before we started throwing hands, before we had.

[A]

Elevator music played at us for. Probably. Yeah. So you can't get away from it while someone throws water on you. Yeah. That's crazy. I used to throw up at church as a kid.

[B]

Just.

[A]

This is just an aside.

[B]

Wait a second. What?

[A]

Yeah, like. Like, we're. Like, how mother horse eyes just, like, randomly transitions. She's like, it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I used to throw up as a. In the church as a kid, and I used to get these migraines, and we would leave early. So for a while after, I would wonder, though, if there was something to this whole thing. This is a very. I like how she tells this story. It's a very interesting.

[B]

Well, because she's not completely dismissing it. Right. I like that for those. For the audience, we just had, like, Rolling Thunder as soon as the music picked up again.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She.

[A]

She's not dismissing it. She's come to terms with what happened here. I just like the way the story is being laid out. Thank you. Thank you, Heather, and thank you, Nancy, for pushing us to read. Pushing David to read this story.

[B]

I feel sapped, Bob. Sapped of my energy.

[A]

Huh. So if there was something to this whole thing, the way it affected me, but also, this girl was crazy is what she's saying.

[B]

So why not both?

[A]

Yeah. She's wondering, are these things related? She wouldn't stop. And the night was passing. She had become violent and was throwing things at me, chanting, calling me a devil. I was cursing at her, throwing things back. I guess her origami. And like I said, in prison time, movies. In prison time. In prison time moves slow, but in confinement, it stands still. A thousand years and five hours are the same. Time doesn't exist in there the way it does out here.

[B]

I hate that, man. I really.

[A]

The hyperbolic time chamber. That's really the worst reverse, man. I remember banging on the cell door again. And I remember hearing all the echoes of everyone else banging on the doors. And no officers were there. And I remember the thought crossing my mind, you can smash her head on the toilet and say she came after you. No one would know.

[B]

That's true. You could do that. At this point, would anybody falter? I wouldn't falter.

[A]

No one would even hear the story. It wouldn't matter.

[B]

No, but I'm saying, like, if this story got out and she said this, like, if she was like. And that's when I slammed her face against the toilet till she stopped moving.

[A]

I don't think it would matter.

[B]

And I served an additional 10 years. And I'm here to tell you about it because I murdered that woman. I'd be like, dude, I kind of get it.

[A]

This is. I honestly, it feels like this is what she's being asked to do.

[B]

Yeah. Was this, like, tempted?

[A]

In the desert, there was a sort of. There's a story from. I think, I guess it was a confessionals about a dude that had one of these intrusive thoughts and it said that it asked him to kill his roommate.

[B]

Oh, I kind of remember that. Yeah.

[A]

And he said, like, immediately after, the roommate comes in, and he's like, I gotta like, leave and go for a walk. So he goes, and she blocks him and they get into an argument, which is strange.

[B]

Yeah, I remember that. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. It seems like that's kind of what is. You can kill her.

[B]

Well, hats off to Heather for not.

[A]

Well, we don't know how the story.

[B]

Well, I'm saying, not getting to that point till now, we don't know how the story ends. I'm just saying, even if you killed her right now, it's like, damn, took her eight hours. Please continue.

[A]

That's not nice.

[B]

She's right, though.

[A]

She's right. We got it. Well, I mean, we're towards the end of it, Nancy.

[B]

Are we?

[A]

I don't know. I lost my place.

[B]

I don't know where you were either.

[A]

See, she made me nervous. And now, okay, I remember the thought crossing my mind that she could smash her. They would investigate. But how would they know?

[B]

How would they know?

[A]

I have never felt that kind of desperation in my life to have a thought like that cross my mind. Maybe it wasn't your own ominous shout out, Dr. Jerry, looking back on this now, that's. That's really messed up. But also, when you're there, your mind is in a different accepted reality. I still can't believe how far this has all come from me getting beat up in the bathroom by Izzy A few weeks ago. I'm exhausted at this point. It's like 3am Interesting time. Maybe even later. The girl doesn't seem to be getting tired either. I kind of like the idea of Nancy. You play that button, I'll kick your ass, Nancy. But I like the idea of Nancy kind of giving us the go ahead because I don't know, Nancy likes to listen to the show.

[B]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So. And she. She's right because several points now when she gave us elevator music, if she hadn't done it the first time, the second time, the third time, we wouldn't be where we are. Right.

[A]

Also probably like these are the points where we'd be getting comments like, shut up.

[B]

Yeah. And also that we would turn this into a two day thing. This would be Thompson Ryan over again.

[A]

Yeah. Okay. I've never felt that kind of desperation in my life. But also, when you're there, your mind is to have a thought cross my mind. But when you're there, your mind is different in an ex. In a different accepted reality. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Like you're living in different rules. Actually, that's probably more realistic rules than what we live in with Costco and all that stuff. Maybe the Costco reality.

[B]

Maybe. I mean, I think the Earth has been populated with stimuli and this is void of it. What makes time pass faster is stimuli. And this is like. No, you get concrete walls, I like to listen to. And sometimes y' all do go on such a long tangent or a bunch of tangents and I'd be getting a little tired. All right, all right.

[A]

A little tilted.

[B]

A little tilted. Oh. Oh. All right.

[A]

I don't know what that.

[B]

What that means, but I get it. Maybe you're right.

[A]

You're off kilter.

[B]

Yeah, a little bit.

[A]

Anyway. Can't believe how far this has come. In the few weeks since getting beat up by Izzy, I start to think about what's going on. To be like to try to sleep with this girl in here if this ever stops or if I even feel safe. It's a little absurd thinking back about how I was afraid of her coming after me while I slept, but also desperate enough to consider hurting her as well.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Your mind and logic is different in there. Finally they decided to move me. I can't remember exactly what happened. It didn't make any sense. I had already explained to the officers it doesn't make sense for them to put her in here when I'm the only. When I'm. When only in here because I got jumped by her bigger, crazier auntie. Now they put another crazy person in here to finish me off. And I said, I don't care. Just get me out of this cell. I'm begging them. And the officer says to me, you'd be willing to move as this, as if this could have been, this whole situation could have been solved.

[B]

All right, that's. That feels like careful what you wish for.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's like, oh, wait, wait. You're willing to be moved? You consent?

[A]

It feels like they moved. Everyone's screwing with her. So they go like, they say there's a, like, well, why didn't you say you wanted to move? And she's like, what the. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're, they're playing games with her. They take the girl and they cuff her and they put her back in the, in that shower holding cell thingy while I pack up all my stuff and move it to the cell a few doors away on the opposite wall. So when the doors were shut, we could still see each other through our little wind, our little door windows. They put me in the new cell with another girl who, it turns out, had been in PC for like three months.

[B]

Whoa, whoa.

[A]

That's a long time.

[B]

Wa.

[A]

Is this, this place like, you know.

[B]

I thought it was tcu.

[A]

I think, I think she's like using it interchangeably, depending on.

[B]

So PC. I, I, I think I know what that acronym acronym is. I think she said it before, but it's, it's escaping me right now.

[A]

Okay, see? Yeah.

[B]

Nancy, do you remember what PC is?

[A]

She doesn't remember.

[B]

It's scary when we wait for her to speak and.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And the music plays.

[A]

I know, I know.

[B]

Oh, protective custody. Thank you, Heather.

[A]

Uh huh. Okay. Yeah. So it's the same thing.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. So this girl's been in there for three months.

[A]

That's a long time.

[B]

And that's still 24 hour lock. Like, that's 24 7.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So she'd been trying to get them to let her back on the compound in general population, but they just were letting her sit here. She's really cool. And I'm in such shock after what happened. And she's also surprised and hasn't talked to anyone in forever. And we become immediate friends. I give her coffee. Secret stash of instant coffee. Where were you keeping that?

[B]

Ooh, Heather, was that in your butt?

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

That's so nasty.

[A]

She hadn't had any in weeks. And I tell her all about my Crazy night. And what was going on and what all the yelling and commotion was. We both have that lock shock thing I had mentioned earlier. So we're both talking non stop, basically, until the sun comes up.

[B]

That's the worst. Imagine being in that room just gacked.

[A]

Out on two coffee.

[B]

Gacked out on butt coffee.

[A]

Yeah, which. Which wasn't far off because it had already been most of the night in the cell with the other girl.

[B]

Heather says they hide tobacco in their butts. Not coffee.

[A]

Coffee goes in the other place. Yeah, yeah. This must have been. I mean, you have no concept of time either, I assume, because cigarette butts. Well, I. How do they. How are you guys telling the time? Is there. Is there actual windows with.

[B]

Well, all they have is a window that can show some light and. And you. You can tell when it's light and dark out. So I guess they're just basing it off of the guard schedule maybe.

[A]

Right, right. This is crazy.

[B]

They do coffee enemas right up the cloaca. Oh, not the cloaca.

[A]

All right. So, yeah, they've been up all night talking with the other girl. We spend a lot of time peeking.

[B]

Oh, she says you could buy a watch. I had a watch.

[A]

Oh, okay. All right. They spend time peeking out of that door window at the other cell. That little girl stood in the window and chanted for the remaining time.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

All I could see were the whites of her eyes and I could see her mouth moving. And it was very dark in there. People in other cells would periodically yell at her to shut up. She just kept saying her Bible verses in my direction. Now that I wasn't there with her, I'm laughing about it with my new confinement friend hysterically. I'm relieved, but I still can't believe everything that just happened. Sometime comes by and it's like 5am and the breakfast carts come around. They come by. It's a totally new shift now that's here, so they don't know about anything that went on. We're excited, we're hungry, and breakfast is always the better of the food we get. They make their way to the cell of the other girl and go ask if she wants her tray. And they look in and instead of saying, you want your tray? They're like, you want you. Oh. Oh, my God, girl, what you doing in there? Yeah, these are all.

[B]

These are all big black ladies.

[A]

Big black ladies.

[B]

What is you doing in here? Oh, hell no.

[A]

Working in a correction facility. Exactly. Yeah. That must be rampant.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

In this place.

[B]

Oh, is it Nothing but just chirps.

[A]

Intermittent chirps. That's how they're telling the time.

[B]

That's how they know.

[A]

Yeah, like it's like quarter past chirps, chirp.

[B]

Takes three minutes for the chirp to happen.

[A]

So I hear the girl from the cell, I'm having a baptism.

[B]

Oh, no. Baby toilet baptism.

[A]

The toilet keeps flushing. They direct the workers to keep passing out the trays and they. They get the other officers in to talk to the girl. We can't see what's going on. We can just saying things to her like, why you naked? You need to put on some clothes. Stop ripping pages out your bible. Why are you flushing Bible papers down the toilet? She.

[B]

She's using it to back up the toilet so that she can have a baptism. That's crazy pooptism.

[A]

Then they turn the water off to the entire unit because it turned out she tried to flush her bible down the toilet and clogged it and flooded herself. A little aside here. Don't. Don't beep me, Nancy. I washed my. My daughter's clothes and for some reason she had the little New Testament Bible in it.

[B]

And I didn't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The little ones. The little red ones.

[A]

Yeah. I got to either wash all the clothes or something, but like this thing disintegrated to the.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

To the spine. And now I feel like I've done something really wrong.

[B]

I like, destroy the Bibles.

[A]

They're nice.

[B]

You know how Matt came over and he was like, I don't like those little rubber Jesuses. Yeah, I like the little rubber Jesuses and I like the little tiny pocket.

[A]

I don't like those Bibles, by the way.

[B]

Probably not.

[A]

We're going to be doing the Bible study with Matt. Hopefully Wednesdays maybe we'll talk about the schedule for this Saturday, but Wednesdays we're gonna try.

[B]

It's gonna be great.

[A]

I aced based. So they. They turned off the water to the unit because she clogged and flooded her cell.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Insane. She was naked. Smeared all the condiments she had with her. Remember she had a bunch of ketchup packets and mustard packets. She smeared them all over the walls and she kept saying none of it's real, and telling the guards to go home to their families. The guards were really weirded out. They kept trying to convince her to put her clothes on so she could talk to the mental health doctor. She was going to get put in a turtle suit. Turtles? Is that the one like with.

[B]

Oh, that's probably where they they. Yeah, they wrap you up.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like Hannibal Lecter stuff. Where are we at?

[B]

Why did they just beat her up?

[A]

Yeah, they should have just called Izzy.

[B]

They should have just beat her ass. I mean, she's £100, right? Assaulter? No.

[A]

All right, so they were gonna put her in a. Where is she at?

[B]

A turtle suit and go on psych watch. But she refused to cooperate.

[A]

Right. They ended up having Nicole in the extraction team to go into her cell, get her dressed, and get her out. The extraction team is like six officers that put on riot gear. Pads, helmets, shields. They march straight in. They march in a straight line, one behind the other. They hold on. They hold on to the one in front of them.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And the one in the very front holds this huge riot shield as they barge into the cell and restrain the inmate. This is not a regular thing they do. It's like a last resort.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

So this lady was pretty intense. They even have. Have to have the lieutenant or a captain come in with a full video camera and recording the whole thing. Because it's got to be on camera.

[B]

Yeah, I'm sure, like, the legal complications with beating the shit out of a naked woman.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Can get pretty squirrely. So better record it all. For your protection and mine.

[A]

The lieutenant says into the video camera, let it be known inmate, insert name here, was given several chances to leave the cell on her own and refused. So we are going to get her. Then the team marches into her cell behind their huge riot shield. Remember, this little girl weighs like a hundred pounds. And six big ass guards in apocalypse gear go in there and put her. And put her dress. We get this stupid dress thing to wear to bed when you first get to prison or if you don't ever get to your own shit. Like it's this ugly blue potato sack. So they put her dress on her forcibly and cuffed her and took her away.

[B]

I like the idea of sending dudes in. Ryke, you're in. To get you dressed.

[A]

Get her dressed. It was like, okay, put your legs.

[B]

Put your coochie away.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

God.

[A]

Heather says I never saw her again. The next night when the other shift came in and the officers who acted like I was a problem saw that she was in the psych. In psych now. Felt great satisfaction. This whole chain of events really messed me up psychologically. Actually, the entire prison experience did that. I have so many stupid stories. So many. But I think about that whole thing now. Just because I used to make jokes about it and think that it was funny that her Exorcism backfired and bounced back at her. But now that my beliefs are different, I'm really confused. Nothing makes sense anymore. Was I really getting an exorcism? I know I have family demons and I have been targeted at times. Please let me know if you have any follow up prison questions. I have a lot of weird stories and no one to tell them to. Also didn't mean to offend anyone by my crazy schizo references. It's just easier to not be politically correct. My life is together now. For now she's doing frying chicken at Pathmark.

[B]

Hell yeah.

[A]

I've been home for a few years, but in a lot of ways I feel like I never left. That's what happened when I went to Florida to go to rehab and ended up in prison for a long time. Okay, bye.

[B]

I like Heather.

[A]

I like Heather. This is a crazy. This was a fascinating story, man.

[B]

I, I'm fascinated by the idea that you would get migraines and throw up in, in the church. Were you getting a baptism? I. I almost feel like you weren't getting a baptism as much as you were exorcism. I mean, an exorcism as much as you were getting something trying to put you off from Christ. You know what I mean? It's like if you, if you think you have. Where did she say she has family stuff? Hold on. Schizo references?

[A]

Yeah, she's got family demons.

[B]

Family demons. And it seems that you're affected from childhood. And then of course having, you know, the drug addict addiction issue where you go to rehab, it seems like you probably were targeted from an early age. And then to have this experience where somebody claiming to be a represent representative of Christ is doing nothing but like really twisting this situation. You could have easily taken that experience and said, none of that is for me ever again. And maybe that was the point of it. You know what I mean? Not that you were supposed. Not that you were getting a real exorcism. I mean, it sounds like that lady needed an exorcism. I don't think that God wants you to spread your, you know, your mustard and ketchup packets on the wall and have a toilet baptism or, you know, maybe when you're. You don't have much to work with and all you have is a toilet and a couple of packets of stuff. But none of that seemed like. How do I put this?

[A]

Of God.

[B]

Yeah. And none of that seemed humble in spirit. None of that seemed gentle. That was not an easy yoke to bear.

[A]

Well, she said she never went back to prison.

[B]

Probably. That's a good one.

[A]

Probably because of that. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. But. But it just doesn't feel like. To me, it feels more like something that was meant to, like, keep you from looking at that. Keeping you from looking at. At Jesus Christ as a viable option. Because that's, that's. I mean, that lady sounded like she sucked ass.

[A]

Dude.

[B]

Yet. That's right. Give Heather some time. Go, go and go and mouth off to her about the quality of the chicken. Watch what happens.

[A]

Watch what happens. Throwing catch up packets at you, man. Yeah, man, that sounded like. That sounded like you did get wrapped into. Into a situation with some sort of weird demonic presence, man. That lady was going through some stuff.

[B]

Let me see real quick what we got? So Paul Goodman says anyone with crazy stories can always tell them to a Christian ADD Addiction recovery group. Get them off your chest. I mean, I would certainly. If you have anything else that you'd like to share with us, Heather, you've already elevated yourself to one of. One of my favorite people.

[A]

Yeah, actually, this actually gives me a good idea. What? Paul says they have those recovery meetings at the. At the coffee shop in the morning.

[B]

Oh, they do? Yeah. Well, Heather's not in. In Florida anymore. She's in New Jersey. Why would you go to New Jersey, by the way? Heather? Oh, my God. Oh, well, I know there's recovery places in Florida, rehab places in Florida. I was like, friends with people in New Jersey who were getting shipped out to Florida to go to rehab, so that's probably what was going on there.

[A]

Okay. All right, let's. I mean, we're at an hour and a half, but. Nancy, is there another video, another story that is.

[B]

Yeah, Heather, that was a great story. Yeah, thank you, Heather. Yes, there is a one page story. It's called Nephilim Porn Addict. I knew she was going to recommend that.

[A]

Hell yeah.

[B]

Nephilim Porn Addict. We're about to make Heather not feel so bad. I was born in New Jersey, went to Florida because they spin it as recovered promised land. Yes, Heather, that's true. That's exactly what they do.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, that's. That. It's like the place where you're supposed to go to get clean. Like, don't worry, all else has failed. We're gonna send you to Florida. There's a place in Florida where you're really gonna get your together. And I've known people that were like, real deep, you know, heroin, all kinds of opioids and does it work out? I don't Think that there's a place that you're gonna go that's gonna be this, like, beautiful. I mean, maybe. Maybe there's something about it. I don't know what they're doing out there. I. You know what I think it is? It's like you leave the dreariness and the shittiness of New Jersey and you go to a beautiful place where the weather is. Weather is tremendous, and you're going to the beach and you're doing all these different activities and such. And like, it's like the. The. It's like. It's like the random rat city. You know, the rat city experiments where they're giving the rats cocaine.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And they keep opting for the cocaine and they're like, yeah, see, rats will just choose cocaine because it's addictive, and it's like, not if you put stimuli around them. So if you make a. A beautiful environment where there's tons to play with and other rats to engage with and. And food and interesting things, they don't choose the cocaine.

[A]

I think Florida is like a. Like what that guy Topher was saying. It's a liminal space. So it's a space where. What I've noticed is you come here and it'll make or break you. Like. Yeah, I was already on a weird entrepreneurial route. I got here and that Just, like, extrapolated.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I think if you come here and you. You're doing some weird stuff, like, it'll. It'll feed on that too, and then you'll be. You'll be bulls deep inside.

[B]

I mean, you could. Yeah, it'll. It could break you. But like I said, I think it's like you get out of that dreariness of New Jersey, and all of a sudden there's like this beautiful tropical place with the. The beach is wonderful, and there's so much. You know, I think it's kind of that, too. All right, Let Nephilim porn addict. Okay.

[A]

There's a word in red here that I know.

[B]

And then Nancy has given us a. Oh, I. I would love for Nancy to read the definition.

[A]

I think she should.

[B]

She should, she should. And it doesn't matter what you want to do, Nancy. You're going to read that, so. Greetings, greetings, whoever you are. You mysterious man, you. It's 3:00am as of writing this, and I'm going to tell you some messed up stuff. I am fighting a bad porn addiction, and I mean bad Nephilim porn.

[A]

You on Twitter? You're on Twitter, man.

[B]

I think so, yeah. Oh, there. You say reach out to us on Twitter.

[A]

No, stay off Twitter.

[B]

I won't respond.

[A]

Elon's been posting porn out there.

[B]

Yo. 100. He wants you to. Guys, remember when I said Elon wants you to jerk off to his AI representation of. Or his. His anime representation of Grok? He is now posting it dressed in, like, thongs. And.

[A]

Yeah, every day he's posting like, look at the outfit that. Look at it now.

[B]

Look at it. Look at him like you're trying to breathe life.

[A]

It is. It is bad, man. It's really bad because of people like this. Like, yeah, people that are struggling. Like, even Sam, Tripoli. Sam.

[B]

Sam's trying not to jerk off to Grok.

[A]

He said. He said he's three months without watching it. But then you're scrolling Twitter, which is now the source for everything.

[B]

It's the Everything app.

[A]

The Everything app. And every so often, you've got the guy that's manipulating the algorithm, showing you anime butthole. Yeah, it's. It's like, I'm like, I. I see what you do.

[B]

Anime grundle.

[A]

Sure. The pressure of Nancy's.

[B]

But I know. I'm so scared now. Look, I haven't told anyone this, but my wife once. Feel free to make fun of me. We will, but I'm writing this on the off chance of advice. Resolving this or at least letting someone else with this problem know they are not alone. Man, I appreciate the out of that. I really do.

[A]

I think you're in the wrong place.

[B]

No, I don't think so. I don't think so. I think that a lot of these things is, like, if you can get it off your ch. Your chest, like, anytime I've been, like, getting too carried away with alcohol or something like that, like, saying it out loud in any capacity helps a lot. If you. If you don't say it out loud, it makes it that much easier to hide from yourself, which is hugely problematic.

[A]

It's a principle that what's his name laughed at me about when I even say his name on the show.

[B]

Okay. Oh, okay.

[A]

But he's like, oh, you're just saying it so that you're adding external pressure. So other people's like, yeah, that.

[B]

But that helps too.

[A]

But it's also. You're saying something.

[B]

It's conviction. Yeah, conviction. And look, the external pressure thing is true. If I say, I'm tired of this place, I'm tired of this job, I want to leave this job. I want to go to Florida, I want to be, you know, a content Creator. If I say it out loud and I tell it to people, there's a higher likelihood of me holding myself to it.

[A]

Sounds kind of gay when you say it out loud.

[B]

That's what they said. Well, I am a vora phylac. Nancy, please. What is a vora phylac? A guy who wants to get eaten alive.

[A]

Can you read the definition?

[B]

Read the definition. Can you use it in a sentence? No. Please read the definition, Nancy. It's. It's a paraphilia characterized by the erotic desire to be consumed by, or to personally consume another person or creature.

[A]

Interesting. It's an erotic.

[B]

You can derive sexual gratification from that. That's the short definition.

[A]

Yeah. An erotic desire. What the hell? I've never heard of such a thing.

[B]

Actually, I haven't heard of it either. So. So he is a vora phylac. Someone who enjoys content with the theme of a female predator eating other beings whole.

[A]

That's like Lilith stuff, huh?

[B]

Well, that's interesting, because I remember I told you I'm playing that Resident Evil game, right? There's that giant, and she's got hefty cans, and she's like, yeah, she's like, eating. She's drinking blood. She's like, you know, mauling you. And. And yeah, it's. It's like, yeah, and. And. And there's a lot of people on the Internet that are like, yeah, big Nephilim milkers. I love that chick. Like, people love her. In. In that game, Resident Evil 8, there's a large variety of this content from furry and gay stuff. Same size beings eating each other, or giants eating smaller beings. In recent years, AI can make all the demonic content you want. Now, doesn't that sound like Nephilim crap? 100, dog. 100. I never asked to like this content. It is quite literally the biggest source of shame in my life, which I think is part of it. The more shame, the more unredeemable you feel. Yes. Dude, you. You know what? You know what it is? You're nailing it. You're 100 nailing it. It's about making you feel like an unredeemable piece of which is.

[A]

It's funny.

[B]

Untrue.

[A]

It's the spiral. Right. Like, you spy. And then from that episode, which I guess the guy's listening now, but it'll be released soon with Kingdom in context, where he's talking to us about the spiral. The maze.

[B]

Yeah. By the way, In Resident Evil 8, there's a lot of spirals and even specifically labyrinths. A Lot of them.

[A]

Yeah. That's the point of this. It's like he has. You have traversed this maze, this labyrinth, to the point where you are now within the city walls, and you feel like it's unredeemable, but you don't realize.

[B]

That the actual way out is just like, repent, ask for forgiveness. Admit to God what you've done. Ask him to forgive you. And it's a very straight. Yeah, you got to say it out loud.

[A]

Say it out loud and knock down those. The walls.

[B]

That's it. Yeah.

[A]

They yelled. They yelled it on this. Outside of the cities of Jericho. They yelled.

[B]

Right?

[A]

It's very interesting.

[B]

I'm jerking off to people eating other people.

[A]

All right, cool.

[B]

But no, dude, you. You're nailing it, though, on that. That aspect of. It's all about the shame and. And the more unredeemable you feel. I realize that I enjoy this stuff as soon as I reach puberty. Oh, man, that's.

[A]

That's early.

[B]

That's really early. I watched men in black 2. In the beginning, there was a scene with an alien woman who eats a man whole and has an enlarged stomach. She's kind of similar to this character. Hey, Nancy, can you bring up the. The alien lady from Men in Black, too? I. I want to see her. I want to have a gander at her, because.

[A]

Take a look at her.

[B]

Let me take a look. Let me look at this. So she has an enlarged stomach. And would you believe Valkyrie says, don't do it. Don't do it. And would you believe that I felt a new feeling. I never had arousal. That's a bummer. That. That's your. You know, your. Your arousal moment is. Is a lady.

[A]

It kind of also speaks to, like, why. It's like. Well, that. I don't know, Is that a generational iniquity kind of thing? A generational trauma? Because, yeah, when I saw that scene, I kind of remember it. I don't remember popping a bee. You know what I mean?

[B]

Right?

[A]

Yeah, it's just. But some people do, and it's like, these things are set out there as, like, little landmines.

[B]

Yeah, they do that, right? Little things that seem like kind of innocuous if it's not your thing.

[A]

Specific bait.

[B]

Yeah, well. Oh, that's interesting. Paranoid American talked about it.

[A]

He seems like a kind of dude. That would be interesting.

[B]

He does seem like a dude that pops that P's a B when he sees that. I mean, look, if you. If you think about the history of. Of just the nephilim in general. And that whole cannibalism aspect, which obviously he's. He's keen to when he's talking about it earlier on already in the story. That is a. You want to talk about, like, the ability to pass on genetic memory. Imagine one of your ancestors watching one of their loved ones be eaten alive by a thing that looks like a human.

[A]

And instead, instead of the reaction being fear and disgust, it's.

[B]

Well, maybe it was fear and disgust, but when it gets passed down generation to generation, it gets watered down. Then when, when you're just. When your descendants see it, when you're descendants pull up, up to. Pull up the lady Nancy. I don't know if you heard it. Apparently I can't, I can't share screen on my tablet. Unbelievable.

[A]

You're gonna have to go ahead and buy the new Nancy T shirt, guys.

[B]

Buy the Nancy T shirt so we can get her a computer because available everywhere.

[A]

You can buy T shirts. Really?

[B]

Your, your great great great grandfather might have been disturbed by watching his loved one get eaten by. By the time that generational memory hits you and then is triggered by, you know, a sexy Men in Black scene. It, it, it, it's a powerful thing, but it manifests totally differently because of the context that you're seeing it in. So you have a connection to it, but the context is sexual, and so it manifests sexually. And, and now you're doing this.

[A]

Oh, that's crazy there. That is. That's a crazy thought, huh? The wires are crossed, man.

[B]

The wires are all crossed. I continue to seek and consume this content, mostly shamelessly for years in the mind of no harm, no foul. But then I found the truth. And then came the shame of disappointing God. To this day, I will abstain. But put a little drink into me or put me alone for a time, and the temptation comes. Yeah, that's how it goes. I, I just want to say on that thing that I just said, that really frames it in a way where it's like, you should feel, like, shameful, but like, you shouldn't feel irredeemable. Like there could, there could be a real genetic memory at play, given what our ancestors were subjected to. You know, you think about like the Inca and the giants that are building the temples.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And they're cannibalistic giants. I mean, those people are watching their loved ones get devoured by gigantic men. You know, like horrifying. And so, yeah, when it comes down to you in 20, 20, 25, all your wires, like you said, are all crossed and mixed up like you're not irredeemable. You're just all up in the game.

[A]

I'll say something crazy that might be less shameful than having the inclination to want to watch. Like, incest stuff.

[B]

Could be.

[A]

I don't know. Why?

[B]

Well, the worst stuff would come from the, you know, being around people that are trying to keep that bloodline.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I think it could all be traced back all the traumas, especially the. The.

[A]

The lustful is incest stuff. Nephilim 100.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, that's what they're doing to maintain their bloodline. Bang your cousin. Oh, my God, I don't want to bang my cousin. Bang your cousin.

[A]

But he's gonna be.

[B]

The baby's gonna be retarded. It doesn't matter. It's gonna be Nephilim, baby.

[A]

That gives. That gives a new meaning to uncovering your father's nakedness. That, like. Was it Ham who did that to Noah?

[B]

Noah?

[A]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, and then in Deuteronomy, when you uncover your father's nakedness, that means that you've slept with his might not be your mother, but you've slept with his wife. Because at the time they could have had a couple, you know, many wives. But it also could mean your mother. That is an odd thought. Yeah. And that's how they get. That's how you get. Not hearing that sound, huh?

[B]

Okay, so to this day, I'll abstain, you put a little drink in me. Pops off. There are a lot of strange things that people like. Poo, poo pee, pee stuff, masochism, Chicks with dicks. But in my case, this has to be the most weird Nephilim like stuff to exist. Literally, times of Noah, I've.

[A]

I didn't even know this, this category existed.

[B]

Yeah, you're. You're in a small percentage.

[A]

Thank God we're not doing Tower Gang anymore because we would have. This would have been a subject for like weeks.

[B]

Like I'm saying, though, this has to be one of the most deeply rooted trauma based experiences that a human can. Can. Can be subjected to is watching another big human eat your loved ones.

[A]

So this is even before the idea of having to interbreed to keep a bloodline. This is when they were just out free.

[B]

Yeah, Chilling.

[A]

This is an old. This is an old one.

[B]

I mean, that's the big fear, right? Is. Is something eating you? Like some creature eating you? That's the big monster fear. And this dude's pulling pecker to it.

[A]

It's almost like an extension of humiliation porn.

[B]

Well, in the way that it evokes shame. Like real, real shame.

[A]

Well, cuckoldry is that. That should evoke shame in the, in the person that is being cuckold. But it is a category of this.

[B]

Well, just for this dude's like being.

[A]

Eaten is kind of shameful. Yeah, that sucks. It should be a fear.

[B]

Should be a fear.

[A]

Cuckoldry should be a fear.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

Like and so should this. But it's.

[B]

Well that's where women get all messed up with like the, the R fetishes. You know the big R fetish.

[A]

Oh yeah, yeah, the big R yeah, same thing.

[B]

That should be horrifying but yet they're putting it in your.

[A]

Nancy looks like she reads a lot.

[B]

Of these books but it's always done by a minotaur man.

[A]

Nancy, have you read these books?

[B]

Don't read these books.

[A]

Have you read Nancy's red 50 Shades of Gray?

[B]

No, I have not.

[A]

Liar.

[B]

All right, I believe her.

[A]

I don't think so.

[B]

So literally times of Noah stuff I have began to pray at times for deliverance of this. But then weird stuff happens. I might get a migraine or my stomach feels queasy, lights have flickered and other strange happenings. I have also had dreams of these things when I've abstained and have relapsed when I awake. It's strangely the most guilty pleasure. You know it's wrong but I am so compelled. Appreciate you guys reading this. Would appreciate any thoughts or solution to my messed up stuff.

[A]

I got a solution. I have an idea for a solution for you at the very least. I don't know your name but thanks for writing in.

[B]

We'll just call them Vora failure file.

[A]

Call you V. What up?

[B]

What up V?

[A]

I think so I'll look for your email in the emails and I'm going to forward this to at like Laura Baker at the very least I think yeah she. This would be a case that she would want to look at and help you because I. There's something when he said here at the.

[B]

That he's tried deliverance on it but he's got migraines and nauseous and. And then he's had dreams about it.

[A]

Like yeah, yeah lights. I mean even poltergeist. So that means that's it's so deep rooted that it can become physical.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. So. So what I would say is take some solace. I mean you're not abstained of your. Your part in all of this but you're.

[A]

I mean it's not. Not me. I'm not into that, but.

[B]

But I'm saying, like, you're not alone. Well, it's not even that you're not alone. You're not alone as in something is with you. Something is. Is getting you to do this. Now you're the one who's. Who's ultimately giving in or not.

[A]

Says this is the type of you find in prison library urban porn stores.

[B]

Is that real? Is that real? But yeah, this isn't like, this isn't you. So it's interesting because, sure, I can understand the feeling of shame, but you should also have a feeling of maybe you shouldn't have it. But I would also understand the feeling of anger. Like something is nudging you and something doesn't want you to be free of this. And something is tapping into something that's probably. Yeah. Generational, you know, who the hell knows? I. I wonder if. If you've got anything going on in your bloodline that you'd be aware of.

[A]

Does it even matter? I mean, I think again, well, for.

[B]

It to resonate with him so young when he's not been subjected to anything like that, and then for it to follow him to me, I'm like, there's something going on, like, in the bloodline, dog. Like, your bloodline has been exposed to something. And yeah, it's like it. Who knows? Maybe somebody in your bloodline did that thing. And then now it's manifesting to you as this. As this sexual perversion. It's just like. It's so strange that that was like. You know, when I was a kid, like, I saw boobs and I was like, whoa, boobs crush. I didn't see people eating each other and being like, yo, that crushes. You know what I mean? So, like, to me, there's something else at play here. And then, of course, it, it, it coming into your dreams.

[A]

But we're all. Yeah, we all are. Like, kind of.

[B]

It just depends on what it is.

[A]

We're trapped by this, though. Like, by the ideas of. Of these things. Like jewelry. Yeah, it's true.

[B]

Ideas of goonery.

[A]

And it comes to you. Ed Mabry said that he saw, you know, the magazine just randomly on.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like a floor strewn about, and his friend saw it. I. My. My uncle had had them in the bathroom.

[B]

Yeah, that was normal.

[A]

That was normal.

[B]

I would play people's houses and like, their parents would have it in. In the bathroom rooms, and I want them.

[A]

Yeah. But then you go there, you look to. It's like, it's always an introduction to it. So. Yeah, man, Just, I don't know, don't feel. Don't feel like you're alone. And it's just that that's your thing. It's kind of. That's your. This is your thing. No, dude, we got it.

[B]

I think we will pass it along to.

[A]

Yeah, I'm going to give you Dr. Laura Baker's email. She's also in the Patreon as well.

[B]

But if you're interested in a real crack at Deliverance. Dr. Laura Baker helped me out when I was going through. Only like a couple of weeks ago, I was like plagued by these. These repetitive, stressful dreams that eventually started to turn into something, some sort of presence. And it was also trying to get me. Like it was showing me cheeks in my dreams. It was like, look at this chick's cheeks. Look at these chicks cheeks. And I was like, oh, snap. Cheeks. Now that doesn't happen no more. You know, so. And I don't think it's a. It's a one. I'm not, you know, I'm not gay no more. I have been delivered. When is the news show starting up? We were supposed to record something today and then tap went, no, I was. I don't wanna do it.

[A]

I was making some cool thumbnails for our new stuff. But yeah, we're gonna get out of here in a second. Here's a thumbnail for. From the latest episode. If you guys didn't catch our last episode with David, dude, I can't.

[B]

Like, I. I was looking at Nephilim.

[A]

And David just geeking out over the Pokemon.

[B]

I mean, literally, that Blastoise. Dude, Blastoise is my favorite Pokemon. And that card is my favorite card. That OG Black, like, that was like, that's big man.

[A]

Unironically. This is a fun thumbnail. I like this one. This is a.

[B]

That's very fun. Who.

[A]

So that's what I was doing. That's why we didn't record the trailer.

[B]

Are we gonna record it this weekend?

[A]

Yeah, commit to it.

[B]

Commit to it.

[A]

Dude, are you gonna commit? What time on Saturday are you gonna commit to?

[B]

I'm not going to the coffee shop.

[A]

No, to here.

[B]

Yeah, I know. I'm just saying what time is good for you?

[A]

Whatever time. We should do this off air.

[B]

Somebody called him Blap Doyce. Nancy. Say goodbye to the people, Nancy. Goodbye. The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is.

[A]

A oblong box in the corner of the room.

[B]

It is constantly telling us what to believe that is real. You can persuade.

[A]

That what they see with their eyes is what there is.

[B]

To see.

[A]

Because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the.

[B]

Bigger picture of what happens.

[A]

And they have.