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103: The Great Commission w/ Ben of End of the World News
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In this captivating episode of Nephilim Death Squad, hosts David Lee Corbo, aka "The Raven," and Top Lobster dive into an intriguing conversation with Ben from the "End of the World News Podcast." Together, they explore whether the Bible has been...
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Top Lobster
We are being hypnotized by people like this. News readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers. We are in a country and in.
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Ben
A world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.
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Top Lobster
The chasm between what we're told is.
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Ben
Going on and what is really going on is absolutely. Oh yeah, dude, there's some Nephilim shit.
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Top Lobster
It's like we all know what's going.
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Ben
Down, but no one's saying what happens.
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David Lee Corbo
To the home of the brave.
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Ben
These mother take control this now when no one's talking about how they made us slaves and everybody's just walking around heading the cloud Want to wake up.
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David Lee Corbo
To a dead in the grave finally.
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Ben
Too late we need to be ready to raise up. Welcome to the end of day Everybody is slave.
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David Lee Corbo
Only some are aware that the government. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad. I am David Lee Corbo, AKA the Raven, that is top lobster, the father of disinformation. And today we are joined by Ben of the End of the World News podcast. Ben, if you could, for the people who may not be familiar with you, let them know where they can find your work and what it is you focus on.
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Ben
All right, so you can find my work on Instagram, bit shoot across all audio platforms for my podcast. And I just recently started going on X. So all the videos I upload onto Instagram I also upload onto X. And essentially what I focus on is world affairs through a biblical lens. I think in order to understand the present, you need to understand the past, you need to understand ancient history. And it all points to our Messiah who died for our sins and resurrected. And that this essentially is a spiritual battle for our spirit versus God and his army and Satan and his army. And the only way to fight the agenda is one, focus on our own salvation, and two, the Great Commission leading others back to Christ, back to God.
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Top Lobster
Isn't it interesting that as you say that, I'm thinking about this article that was just written and this guy does this every five years. I forget his name. For the New York Times, where he was like, maybe Mary wasn't a virgin. It's like, maybe she was a. And it says, opinion New York Times. And then he just goes on to theorize about whatever, this and that. And actually in 2016, he wrote an article that said, you know, people think that it's pretty cool that Jesus was born, but what if he wasn't? Would the world be in such turmoil if he never was born? Like, what if Herod actually succeeded and I'm like, what a piece of shit this guy is. But it all goes to that same narrative, that same plan, like what you outlined here, that we need to follow Jesus and it's the linchpin of what we're doing here as human beings. And they're constantly tearing at it, but they never really seem to make any, make any leeway in and sorry, one of the things that, that we're going to get into today, I know it's going to be like, I don't know if what order you want to do, Ben, but you said that you might have evidence of if the Bible has been modified in some sort of way. So, like, these are all.
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Ben
Oh, I don't know if I said that I wanted to get into Deuteronomy 32, the human experience, the Book of Job, and how to fight this great agenda, which I believe is salvation and the Great Commission, right, Leading people back to Jesus, baptize the nations and teach us everything he taught us.
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David Lee Corbo
Yes, but there are some things.
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Top Lobster
Oh, I'm sorry, he said weather modification in the Bible. Oh, yeah, I thought you said like. I thought you meant weather. I'm an idiot. Don't worry.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, no, there's actually the title of this show. He's freaking out right now.
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Ben
There's actually weather modification in the Book of Job.
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David Lee Corbo
Interesting. Yeah, we were talking about a lot of things before the show got started.
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Top Lobster
Because we're gonna have to change the title.
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David Lee Corbo
This is a disaster. We gotta change that. We'll figure it out later. Emily is in the chat and she's saying, oh, look, they're on time. No, we're not on time, Emily. We intended to start a half an hour early, so we're still late. During that, during that half an hour, Ben and I were discussing a lot of things. And of course, what always comes up is like, you know, what brought you to this place, having this conversation, you know, allocating your free time to, to spreading the word. And you had a pretty interesting story and, you know, we don't have to go too deep into it, but you said that about 20 years ago you had done DMT. And I would love to talk a little bit about that story because you said a lot of interesting things. So, so 19 years ago and you had expressed to me that you weren't obviously in the place mentally that you are now. Maybe now you wouldn't be doing dmt. You know, I, I have my own history with psychedelic use and things of that nature that I don't do anymore. But you said a Lot of fun stuff. You want to take us away a little bit? What were you doing 19 or 20 years?
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Ben
So for the record, I don't promote the use of psychedelics. I think at best they can shatter your reality, but I don't think they are the truth. I think the truth that lies within scripture. But about 20 years ago, I didn't believe in God at the time, I thought aliens were these green things that the government told me about. And my buddy goes, hey, you want to try dmt? I go, yeah. He's like, we could possibly see aliens, right? So my buddy ordered the bark from Amazon. Not the shipping company, but the actual Amazon rainforest. He fermented it himself. And I was the guinea pig, right? So I take three hits of this stuff and I think Ben is.
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David Lee Corbo
He, he. It's something. It's smokable. He's.
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Ben
Yeah. So I think DMT is the active ingredients in ayahuasca, right? And if you smoke it, it only lasts for three minutes, opposed to six hours where you're throwing up all the time.
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David Lee Corbo
Much better if you ask me. Three minutes. I'll take going to the. The realm of the Nephilim for three minutes as opposed to three hours.
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Ben
Yeah. And I took three hits of this stuff and I kid you not, a lion with glowing green eyes and wings came into this dimension.
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Top Lobster
Is that what any of you.
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Ben
The line behind me. Yeah. And it wasn't a cartoon, it was very real. And the first thing I wanted to do was tell my friends what I was seeing because I'm like, holy, this is crazy, right? But before I got a word out, this trance comes over me and I start speaking in tongues to this thing back and forth. Now my friends can't hear what he's saying because obviously it's between me and him, but I'm verbally going, blah, blah, blah, blah, and it's coming back at me.
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David Lee Corbo
Oh my God.
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Ben
Yeah. And they're all laughing at me. So it ends three minutes later. I don't know really what to make out of the situation. Like I said, I've never read the Bible. I've never looked into our ancient past, what really went on. But about, you know, five years ago when I started going down the alien rabbit hole. And that's why I started with an ancient past. You start looking at all the hieroglyphs in ancient Egypt and what are they? They're these cat like beings with human bodies or these alligator like beings of human bodies. And then eventually it led me to read the Bible. And when you actually Start looking at what these elohim or cherubs actually look like. It's exactly like the lion that I spoke to. So I was like, holy. These ancient people saw the exact same things that I saw. This gave all the credit to the Bible and why I actually believe in it even more. And what's interesting, we were talking about when you start reading some of the, you know, Bible books, when you start, especially in the Book of Revelations, when John's spirit goes up to the throne room and he actually sees Jesus in his angel of the Lord form, his Elohim form, what do they call him? They call him the lion of Judah. And in 4 Ezra, which is Apocrypha book, I believe in Greek Orthodox Bible, Ezra is the cousin of Daniel. And he has this vision of the end of days. And in this vision, there's an eagle with three heads and like eight wings. And this lion like creature comes out and rebukes it on behalf of the Most High. He essentially says, I see what you're doing. The Most High is not going to let you get away with it. This, this and that. So after the vision, Daniel goes, God, please interpret that vision for me. And he goes, as for the eagle, that is the final, you know, empire that's going to rule over the earth. Similar to what I showed you, showed your cousin Daniel, but different. And as for the lion, that is the Messiah who I have saved for the end of days. And I can't help but think that in my vision or whatever, I saw, I saw this lion. I believe we are in the final generation. And I don't know, I think it's crazy. And I totally understand that when you, you know, enter this astral realm or whatever, you're interesting. Enters, entering, there are entities of false light and they give you these messages to deceive you. They tell you to be, you know, vegetarian or the world's overpopulated, all types of wild, the machine elves, right? But this entity did not give me any message. And then when I also started reading the Bible, you learn about the Holy Spirit and you have all these people who start speaking in tongues uncontrollably.
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Top Lobster
Well, what did I. What did it say to you? Because, I don't know, you spoke to it in a different language. It spoke back and you were like, don't know.
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David Lee Corbo
Let me ask you this, Ben. When it was happening, do you at all recall a sensation that you did understand? Because if you're speaking in tongues with this thing, you don't even understand what you're saying. But it's still happening. So, you know, to me it seems maybe there was room for you understanding what it was saying in that moment, but certainly not as soon as it went away.
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Ben
Like I said, I had no biblical framework to go by. It was purely tongues. And I think it was meant for when I started getting into the Bible down the future. I don't think anything's random. I think everything is planned by God in our journey to come closer to him. And the fact that I had this vision and I saw this lion with these wings and these were the exact type of entities that these ancient Israelites were seeing back in the day, it just told me, oh my God, there's something to this book. And then I started reading the book and I stumbled upon, you know, Gary Wayne explaining our supernatural past and ancient history. I was like, oh, now all these conspiracies I've been learning are put into perspective. And ultimately what the Old Testament points to is salvation through our Messiah, through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. And he just led me on this journey.
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Top Lobster
Are you aware of like, like, so there's a couple things. The lion headed men of Moab. That's, that's biblical reference.
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Ben
Oh yeah, yeah.
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Top Lobster
So that again, that's like, oh, well, these guys were just fierce. Like maybe, or maybe they were lions. And this one of the oldest statues, at least what they're saying to be the oldest. It's called lion man or Lowen Mench. It's German for lion human. They think it's 35,000 to 40,000 years old, which you put that wherever you want that. Now we're talking about like pre Adamite history. I don't know where you fall on that. I don't even know where I fall on it.
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Ben
I'm all for it.
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Top Lobster
It's, it's very possible. So it's carved.
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David Lee Corbo
Talking about Top, he's saying it right here, right? It's the, the first beast in the first vision of the prophet of Daniel was described. It's just a lion with wings. So I mean, you know, as far as descriptives go, spirit fingers it, you know, that, that, that hits the nail on the head. That's, that's a. You know what's funny too, Top, do you remember when we had that guy on who is a mechanical engineer, he came out with Dr. Jerry Marzinski. Everybody have a drink. And he talked about seeing this serpent with a lion head come out of a portal, more or less. And the Gnostics in, in some regard believe that's God, which is Interesting. You know, I, I don't know necessarily what to make of that, but just this, you know, the lion face, men of Moab, this, this lion with a serpent body. The Gnostics think it's God.
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Top Lobster
This lion child's emblem. Like, you know, the, the idea that Cherubim had was a lion face like a. What is it? A lion, a cow, something else and.
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David Lee Corbo
A lizard, an eagle and a, Is it a ram? I could be wrong about that one. Or unless we're confusing that with Asmodeus. Right. Remember when we looked up Asmodeus and it's like the head of a man, the, the head of a ox, the head of an eagle and the head of a ram, I think it was. And then there's a serpentine neck with a lion's head on it. So I mean, these things, these elements, they show themselves over and over and over again. You know, a lot of scholars, maybe not scholars isn't the word, but a lot of people would reduce this to symbols, strictly symbolic. And then it's your, you know, interpretation that is what you need to disarm these symbols. But in my opinion, there's a very real aspect to it. They're not just symbols that are left for interpretation to hide various messages. It's like, no, there's, there's lions with wings, there's a lion with wings, there's a lion with a serpent body.
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Ben
Yeah, these are, I mean, literally when you read what cherubs or seraphim actually look like. Exactly. And they're the same as the ancient hieroglyphs where the, you know, the pyramids were probably built during the times of Atlantis or the days of Noah. And that's what God's creation looks like outside of this universe. I'm outside of this earthly realm.
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Top Lobster
My dog's name is actually Griffin and I named it because my. So the, the one that's dead over there is a picture. His, his first name given to him was Griffin. So I gave this one the name Griffin. But obviously we're talking about. That's like, that's what a griffin is. Right? It's like a lion head, eagle body or something like that crazy looking thing.
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David Lee Corbo
Like a serpent tail.
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Ben
Tail.
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David Lee Corbo
I think it's got like a serpentine tail. Might actually have a snake's head at the end of the tail. But I was recapping that story, that discussion that we had with Brian of demon erasers, which I guess probably a lot of people haven't seen. It'll be our, our Christmas episode. But Brian he tells us a story about. It's either Plato or Socrates who is describing a day when he comes across. He gets to see a satyr locked in a cage and it was being gifted to a king. There you go, there's a griffin. Right. Badass. Very cool, very cool. We'd have a huge problem, by the way, if those were still crawling around. But Plato or Socrates, one of the two, he's describing this, this satyr that's being gifted to a king and it's been locked in a cage and he gets to see it to some extent. And the point of view that he's describing it is one from like he believes he knew these things existed. He had just yet to have seen one in person. And he's describing it like, pretty aggressive, pretty strong, remarkably strong. Didn't like being locked in the cage. Took several men to get it in there, but you know, just matter of factly. And so I think like there was a time when the world was much more heavily populated, densely populated with these various entities. They probably still are. I just think they're underground, they've, they've avoided us. Whether it's because we learned that we can weaponize the name of Christ against them, or maybe, you know, you take into consideration those stories where you're smoking out nephilim in a cave system and suffocating them and killing them that way. Human beings are pretty resourceful. Maybe we did do a number on these things. And since they are chimeric, I would imagine they don't have the ability to reproduce much like a liger or something like that. Like it's non viable. So maybe there's a limited number of them outside of the, the head fallen creating them. And so we probably could hunt them to a point where their numbers dwindled and they had to go underground.
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Ben
Oh yeah, that's true. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think this is a perfect segue when we're talking about these entities to get into Deuteronomy 32. And I think in order to understand what's going on today, you have to understand what happened when God created the nations. So I want to read a passage from Deuteronomy 32, 8, 9, if you don't mind, and then kind of go into that and realize how God created the nations and these nations still exist today way, if you don't mind. So Deuteronomy 32, 8, 9, when the most High gave the nations their inheritance, when he divided mankind, he fixed the border of the peoples according to the numbers of the sons of God. But the Lord's portion is his people. Jacob has allotted heritage. So essentially what this happened is after the Tower of Babel, all the people spoke one language. This is before the Abrahamic face. And they built this portal. And how did they built it? I don't know. Was it fallen angelic technology that was passed on from before the flood, or were they using the hermetic principles in a way to create this portal where they could access the heavens and take the fight to God? But that was before the prescribed time that Revelation talks about. So I think God, you know, divided the nation, spread everybody out, and switched the languages, and he assigned a God to rule over them. Now, at some point, God was the king of Israel, but he left. Whether that was during the Judges or when they rejected God's offer to be king for Saul, or when Israel fell to Rome after the death of Jesus. But I think currently, and I want to add the caveat, that God never left the people who were faithful to him, which is why there was always a remnant after this judgment period. And you see that also in Romans 11, where the Jews will be brought back into the fold when they accept Jesus as the Messiah. Right? So I want to add that caveat there. But I think essentially what you have now is a bunch of ancient nations, countries, basically the bloodline of Noah. And we can get into it real quick because I think it applies to Ezekiel 38 and the fulfillment of this fallen angel, Zionism, as I like to call it. You have Noah, Japheth, Ham, Shem. Now, Jephthah's sons were Gomer, Magog, Tubal, Meshech. Ham's sons were Cush, Canaan, Put Shem. Sons were Elam, Asadar, Apheks. I mean, they're all these ancient Israelite names. It's hard to pronounce. And one name that more people are familiar with is one of the sons of Gomer were the Ashkenaz, right? So essentially God took the nations, he gave them a God to rule over them, right? You were talking about how these entities were actually in this 3D reality controlling all these people, right? Using these Nephilim as kings. And they were kind of behind, you know, pulling all the strings. I mean, Jesus comes from the line of Shem. And I think, you know, Paul tells us this in Ephesians 6:12, right? He goes for we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, right? These Benet, Elohim, these fallen watchers, and against the worldly governors, right? The descendants of Noah that created these nations, the Prince of Darkness of the world against spiritual wickedness, against Are in high places. And I think Ezekiel, the prophecy against Ty, where the first half of that prophecy is against the ruler of Ty, which is a human, and the second half is about, you know, some people think it's Satan the way they describe them. But the very least, it's a principality that rules over tyranny.
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David Lee Corbo
Right. We had actually gone over that, Ben. I don't know if you saw that, but it was interesting. Ed Mabry, who we do the Book of Revelation series with, he mentioned how when God interacts with human beings, he tends to ask questions. He's much more gentle with us. But when he speaks to spiritual entities, he is very pointed. He makes statements. And in that moment, you could actually see the language shift from when he's talking to the King of Tyre to when he's talking about this principality that rules over that area. It changes dramatically.
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Ben
Oh, yeah. And I think these countries, and you can just look at history, they've changed their borders, they form various empires, for according to Daniel, too. And I think right now it's all the United Nations. And you don't have to believe in the Bible just to take a look at what's going on. And you see biblical prophecy literally unfolding in front of our eyes.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
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Ben
And that's why I like to call it fallen angel Zionism. And what we also have to understand is Zionism is just a vehicle to destroy the current system and the Abrahamic base, to give rise to the Antichrist, to build this one world government. And this mystery religion and episode is.
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Top Lobster
Going to pair perfectly because we've got Jay Dyer coming on. He's talking about something in the 1960s from the Brookings Institute, that they were basically. They had their own 201 event, you know, event 201, where they're talking about replacing Christianity in the west with an alien religion. And we're right on the cusp of it. Please continue, Ben.
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Ben
Yeah. And these fallen angels use these secret societies, and all cultures have them, whether it's in Asia and you have the royals that take their bloodlines back to the dragon gods or, you know, Nordic mythology that takes their bloodlines back to the Atlanteans, or you got, you know, native mythology whose, you know, royal families came from the sky gods. You have Esau, you have the Kazarians, all this stuff. All these ruling elites who control these nations today are descendants of these Nephilim. And in my opinion, they're actually hosts for these Nephilim spirits to Control. And I think these Nephilim spirits are doing the bidding of their fallen angel parents because they either want to. You know, there's two ways to look at this. I think either these fallen angels have been trapped down here for so long and they're trying to recreate this biblical prophecy, ultimately leading us to commit the one unforgivable sin, which is the mark of the beast, which I think changes our genetics to the point we're no longer humans to provoke God into sending Jesus back. Or these Nephilim bloodlines are actually doing the judgment of God on earth. And I like to read a passage, right, so in Daniel 2:21 says, he changes the times and the season, he deposes kings and raises up others, right? So God co signs all these rulers that we have today. And these rulers are hell bent on fulfilling this prophecy. And I have to say there's an example of these bloodlines actually carrying out the judgment of God on his people, the Israelites. If you read the book of Habakkuk, who's a minor prophet, God comes to him and says, listen, I'm gonna take these Babylonian guys and they're going to destroy you. And Habakkuk has a real problem with that. In fact, he says, why are you silent? Why the wickle? Why the wicked swallow up those more righteous than themselves? Right? So he's like, why are you using these evil bloodlines to cast judgment on the people? So I mean, I'm agnostic about both. I think both could happen. But I definitely think that these fallen angels, they want their final battle with God in the great battle of Armageddon. And I don't know if they think they can win, but I think they actually want to do that if I.
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David Lee Corbo
Can entertain that school of thought. Because, you know, we have the precedent for Satan being a title, the accuser, the adversary. Right. And so it's clear that to some degree there are entities that we would regard as negative that seem to have a job in the. In the greater scheme of things. And so that is something to chew on. But I think it's one of those things where it's very difficult to get an answer from that. So I like your idea of like being agnostic on that front in particular.
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Ben
Yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
But I also like that idea of the genetics playing a key component, because I do think that your genetic makeup, if you are an elite bloodline, that's, you know, making an effort to be preserved, is probably conducive to these spirits inhabiting you. I think the genetics play a role Some people are more susceptible to spiritual influence than others, depending on which spirit we're talking about and what their genetics are. And so when we talk about the mark of the beast being this unforgivable sin, you and I spoke before the show about Gary Wayne, the Genesis 6 conspiracy, or LA Marzulli. These are people in our field, I guess, if you want to call it that, who are pointing to genetics as being the central component to this story, that there is a, you know, the idea that Noah was perfect in his generations or, you know, in layman's term, may have just been human where everybody else was not human anymore. So I do think that there's. There's a lot of credibility there in my mind that genetics plays a crucial component. If we destroy our own genetics, making us not human, via the mark of the beast, then I could see how that would be the unforgivable sin. And I could also see how these bloodlines, why preserve it? What's the functionality there? Well, it makes them good control mechanisms for these entities that are still in control just behind a veil.
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Ben
Yeah. I think one of the beauties of the Deuteronomy 32 word worldview, where all countries are controlled by the pantheon of gods who are led by Lucifer. Right. And I believe they're led by Lucifer because there's a passage in the Bible where Satan takes Jesus up to the tallest mountain and he offers them any partial portion of his kingdom, only he'd have to bend a knee. Now, he couldn't offer him that if it wasn't his.
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David Lee Corbo
Right.
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Ben
So essentially, God is allowing Satan and the pantheon of gods and the demons to squat on Earth for this period of time as essentially like a test. Right. Ultimately, to see if we are led away from God and to choose Satan or do we choose to be led by Holy Spirit and actually be a warrior of God. And everything we do, I think, should be under the guidelines of the Great Commission. Right. I think if we're not leading people back to Christ with our conspiracies, it's just another psyop.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah. And you know, Ed Mabry, by the way, does a great job of addressing this too. It's like, I don't think that God is. Is engaging in the persecution of thought crimes. In other words, if we truly are here to bear testimony or to bear witness to what's happening, and then to give our testimony, you know, in this whole judgment scenario, they have to. They can't preemptively be tossed in prison. They have to do the thing, go ahead and do the thing. You have this plan. You set it in motion. Fine. And humanity will bear witness to this. And you will be held accountable for your crimes in the end.
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Top Lobster
I think I know where we're moving now. And I have a question for you. Because like, we're moving.
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David Lee Corbo
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Top Lobster
Moving into the realm of Job, where we have Satan who accuses Job, but really his job is to present these choices or, or the choice, will you choose God or not? And he has a various amount of ways to do it. Our friend Ed Mabry, who again, I feel like we say his name too much, but I like it. Go follow Ed Mabry, Faith by reason. He thinks that the job, the Satan in Job is a job title and not specifically the. Well, the angel behind that job title is not Lucifer, but as we're looking at Deuteronomy 32 and you're saying that these principalities govern certain parts of the land. And they've been giving this, they've been given it in order to, you know, enact this, whatever this role that they have to play. Like, are they acting as Satan because they are Doing this adversary sort of thing, but they're making us choose in the same way. Although it seems like Lucifer was stripped of that title. So what, what do we think about that?
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Ben
Well, I think there's many adversaries, right? There's many devils, as the Bible says. But I think at the top, there's a leader in this army in the great rebellion, right, where one third of all creation rebelled. And I think, at least from a earthly perspective on earth right now, I think Satan is the leader. And I don't think that, like I said, Satan could offer him any part of his kingdom, right? That's everything if it wasn't his. And I think the pantheon of gods, they actually serve him, at least the ones who are not locked up. I wonder if there's some entities that are actually worse than Satan, because there are certain entities that are locked up and Satan is not. So the question is, why did that happen?
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Top Lobster
It's almost like he's a, an insider. Like, does he still, does he still work for God? Because you're doing, you're doing what God tells you to do, basically, like you're acting out the Bible, you kill Christ, you tempt humans, you create your own end time. But, but then you can't be in the grace of God. Like, you've been kicked out of that. Like, he won't even talk to you and he wouldn't. Like, he'll use Elijah, sorry to Enoch to basically cast your judgment because he's so disgusted by you. So, like, what's going on there?
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Ben
Yeah, it's crazy to see the working relationship that God has with Satan. And they show this in the Book of Job. So, I mean, I might want to read a couple passages in the Book of Job and you'll really understand what the human experience is from this and how to fight that. And that's why I'm all about personal salvation and the Great Commission. So Book of Job, chapter one. Now, Job was the most righteous man in God's eyes. He lived in the land of Oz, and no one really knew what the time was. So I'm going to start with verse six. One day the angels came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came with them. The Lord said, satan, where have you come from? Satan answered the Lord from roaming throughout the earth, going back and forth on it. Then the Lord said to Satan, have you considered my servant Job? There's no one on earth like him. He is blameless and upright, a man who fears gods and shuns evil. Does Job fear God for nothing? Satan replied, have you not put a hedge around him and his household and everything he has? You have blessed the work of his hand so that his flocks and herds are spread throughout the land. But now stretch out your hand and strike everything he has, and he will surely curse you to your face. The Lord said to Satan, very well, then. Everything he has is in your power, but on the man himself do not lay a finger. Then Satan went out from the presence of the Lord. Now if you drop down a little bit more to verse 18. Here we go. While he was still speaking, yet another message, yet another messenger came and said, your sons and daughters were feasting and drinking wine at the oldest brother's house, when suddenly a mighty wind in from the desert and struck the four corners of the house. It collapsed on them, and they are all dead. And I am the only one who has escaped to tell you. At this Job got up, tore off his robe, shaved his head, then he fell to the ground in worship and said, naked I came into my mother's room, and naked I will depart. The Lord gave, and the Lord has taken the way. May the name of the Lord be praised. In all this, Job did not sin by charging God with wrongdoing.
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David Lee Corbo
That's wild, too, because when he talks about this great wind, don't they call Satan the Prince of air?
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Ben
Well, what I'm talking about the great wind. So here you have these angels. They go up to God and say, and God goes, have you seen my servant Job? How righteous is he? And he goes, well, he's only righteous because you protect him. Take that away and let's see what he does. So God goes, all right, you can do this, this and that, but you can't do this. Which tells me there's rules and laws that God has for Satan and them for to follow. And if you break those, I think you get locked up.
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Top Lobster
But if these angels are in the presence of God, period, it doesn't mean that they're not fallen.
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Ben
That's a good question. I don't know. And that's what we have to discuss because he clearly has a working relationship. But I think they are fallen because at the end of this, this judgment period, Satan gets locked up for a thousand years, then he's released, and then he gets thrown into the lake of fire. So, I mean, it's a weird dichotomy between the fallen God, the most high. It's like I said, they have this working relationship. And you ask yourself, well, why does Satan do this, right, if he knows he's going to be locked up. Why does he work with God during this judgment period? Because I don't think the fallen angels actually think they can win. They know prophecy. They know they're going to get destroyed. I think winning to these fallen angels is how many spirits they can steal in the process, how many people they can lead again away from God. Right? I think that's what they view as a win. Because eventually, at the end of this judgment period, they're going to rule over all these fallen humans in hell. And I think they want as many people as they can, right? They want to hurt God as much as possible by taking as many spirits away from him instead of going back and joining him in the kingdom of heaven.
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David Lee Corbo
It's just so interesting because it feels like God's like, okay, sure, give it a shot.
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Ben
But would you notice? Is that so right here in verse 18, he goes, and now this guy comes up to Job and he tells him this, right? He goes, while. While he was still speaking, yet another messenger came and said, your sons and your daughters were feasting and drinking wine at the older brother's house, when suddenly a mighty wind swept in from the desert, struck the four corners of the house, collapsed, and killed them all. Now we know God did not create this, what's it called, Mighty Wind. And he gave Satan all the authority to do whatever he want. Wanted to take away all these things that belong to Job. So how did he create it? Was it supernatural powers or angelic technology? I don't know. But if you look at the COVID of the 2012 Economist magazine titled the Road Map to Hell. Have you seen that before?
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.
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Ben
And it's essentially.
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David Lee Corbo
Ben, before we bring that up, I would just like to announce to the audience that we are getting ready to stop the stream on YouTube and rumble, etc. We do have to do some editing. If you want to continue watching along, you can do so@patreon.com backslash nephilim death squad. Otherwise, you can wait just a few days and the episode will release in its entirety. But we are now cutting the streams to rumble and YouTube. Now we are with a much smaller and cozier group, arguably more unhinged, but.
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Top Lobster
It'S a friend for sure.
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David Lee Corbo
So I just wanted to say something. Actually, you know what? No, please, I interrupted you. Continue.
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Ben
Yeah, well, if you go to the 2012 cover of the Economist titled the Road Map to Hell, which is the perfect example of the Deuteronomy 32 worldview, and it goes as far as showing, you know, Israel shooting Hamas on hang gliders.
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David Lee Corbo
Yep.
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Ben
Right. But if you see Satan. Right, but if you see Satan, he's standing next to a climate change machine, right?
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
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Ben
So here we have.
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Top Lobster
You're saying Jews are the devil.
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David Lee Corbo
So crazy because they're just telling you like, it's almost like the Economist is like. Yeah, it's. Climate change is a devil's ploy.
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Ben
Yeah. Right.
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Ben
But so was it supernatural powers or was it angelic technology? I don't know, but it makes sense also why these pagan cultures, they worship or they pray to these rain gods or these weather gods to give them rain and eventually they give it to them. So I just thought that was kind of interesting.
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David Lee Corbo
That is interesting. Yeah. Look at the nothing new under the sun.
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Top Lobster
Look at the melee in the skies right there, huh?
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David Lee Corbo
There it is. Yeah. Well, that's one of those is the hang gliding Hamas. That's what's. That's. Remember this? This is what predicted it long before it ever happened. The Economist is a weird magazine because really all it seems to be good for is cryptic covers that hint towards future Events. But I just wanted to say on a, you know, it's not much of a tangent, but it's interesting how throughout horror movies and things like that or any kind of movie that has contention in it, often the big bad guy, the ghost, the demon, the, the opponent, the adversary will be when he arrives accompanied by like a gust of unsettling wind, blows out the candles and everything. And you know, there's a, there's a howling wind in the, in the spooky movies and that's indicative of like, you know, the big baddie coming. And I just find that hilarious because it's like even intrinsically as human beings we associate wind with. And I just think it's funny because, you know, the, the, the Prince of Air is what they call Satan. And you know, so many times throughout the Bible there's a, a wind that comes inexplicably from some way and does some sort of damage.
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Ben
Yeah, yeah. But you know, so what I think, like I said the book of Job shows us is our entire human experience, right? You're going to have these negative forces, these fallen angels, these demonic forces that are trying to lead us away from God and our Creator and they control this entire world. World. They control all countries and they control movements. I think all movements are co, opted. You know, we have to listen to what these leaders say and then go, well, what does Jesus say about this? Right? And you'll find a lot of the times that what these leaders are saying doesn't match up with what Jesus says doesn't match up with the Great Commission. And we were talking about this earlier, I know you have mentioned this, is that you see a rise of Christian nationalism coming to the forefront. And what people got to understand is that Christian nationalism and what I call fallen angel Zionism, they actually go hand in hand. Right. Because what is Zionism? I think that's what we first have to understand. What are these entities trying to do? I think what best describes ZIONISM is Ezekiel 38 and 39. Now the book of Revelations expands on this and we see in more detail what the last seven years are going to be like. But essentially what the Ezekiel 38 and 39 and remember I said those names from the bloodlines of Noah will come into play here. It sets up the last seven years, right? It brings all the Jews from all over the world back to Israel and the entire world turns on them. And I'll just read to you from Ezekiel 38, just two passages so you can understand what they're trying to do here. The Lord's great victory over the nations. Ezekiel 38. The word of the Lord came to me. Son of man, set your face on Gog of the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal. Prophesize against them and say, this is what the sovereign Lord says to you. I'm against you, Gog, chief prince of Meshech and Tabal. I will turn you around, put hooks in your jaws and bring you out with your whole army, your horses, your horsemen, fully armed, and a great horde with large and small shields, all of them brandishing their swords. Persia, Kush, and put all these names will be put with them, all with shields and helmets. Also Gomer with all his troops, right? Gomer is the father of, you know, the Ashkenaz and Beth Togama from the far north, with all his troops that the many nations are with you. And if you drop down to verse eight, after many days, you will be called to arms. In future years, you will invade a land that has recovered from war, whose people were gathered from many nations to the mountains of the land of Israel, which had also been desolate. They had been brought out of the nations, and now all of them live in safety. So here's the entire premise of what we see happening. And if you look, if you're these fallen angels and you control all these countries and you're trying to fulfill biblical prophecy, you need to return the Jews back to Israel. So if you look at World War I, what did that create? Right? Well, the British Empire took the land of Israel from the Ottoman Empire. And then World War II, what do you see? This rise of Hitler, who by the way, was an occultist. All you have to do is point to the throne of Zeus. You see, the swastika is just a inverted version of the Hindu swastika because they both worship the same Atlantean gods. But, and listen, the first thing to die in war is the truth. And I don't believe the truth of the death total on both sides. I think it's somewhere in the middle. But when you judge what happens in history, don't listen to the talking heads, see what happens as a result. And as a result, all the Jews in Europe return to Israel. And even before that, with the Havar agreement, where literally, you know, the Nazis allowed a certain segment of the population of Germany who were Jews to bring back part of their money to the city country of Israel and move there. However, guess who, guess what? Jews didn't return to Israel. Well, the Jews in America. And I think that you see this rise in Christian nationalism. And to the point, I really don't blame a lot of these people also because, I mean, if you're America first and you see what's happening, right, you're like, wait a minute, this isn't America first. So what do you do? If you're the cabal, if you're these fallen entities, you send in agents, right, that tell you what you want to hear, but on the backhand say, oh, the Jews, the Jews, the Jews. And you are creating an environment like Hitler created before, where the Jews of America will start self deporting back to Israel. And I'm going to just read a quote real quick from Herzl, right? The godfather of Zionism. He was a godless man, didn't worship God, he was Jewish. I think he was communicating with these fallen entities. He was definitely led by demons. But I'm going to read you a passage from Herzl's diary. This is not me saying this is essential that the sufferings of Jews becomes worse. This will assist the realization of our plans. I have an excellent plan. I shall induce anti Semites to liquidate Jewish wealth. The Habar agreement, right? The anti summits will assist us in that. They will strengthen the persecution, oppression of Jews. The anti Semites will be our best friends now, full stop. I think anti Semite is used as a term to stop the criticism of Israel and stuff like that. However, you can see that when you start saying the Jew, the Jew, the Jew, when it's only a small segment of the population. And you said it, you know, the other day, top on your Instagram, these Khazarians, these Pharisees have hijacked the word Jew. Right, right. And I just wonder if we're contributing to this. Are we really doing the Great Commission and all are, you know, redeemable in the eyes of God? Or are we a useful pawn for the architects of Zionism, which are essentially these fallen angels?
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Top Lobster
I'm a useful pawn and it's a useful part. It started to dawn on me because it's, you know, you see, I do kind of like comedy on Twitter. Like I, I talk, but it's, it's a good tool to make people laughing and tell them the truth. And a while back, you, I don't even know if you were on Twitter, but I had posted a meme. It was, it was Elon Musk and it was Joe Biden sleeping and Mel Gibson all jacked. And I said, you could do adrenochrome or you could hate the J's which way Western men, Elon Musk responds to it, and he goes like, oh, Mel Gibson's really jacked these days. And then it. Obviously, it blows up. And it blows up for, like, weird reasons. Like, they're writing about me in Jewish magazines, calling me a blood libelist, yada, yada.
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Ben
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
And then. Then I get, like, suspended from Twitter. I get reinstated. Very weird, weird stuff. But months later, like, maybe a year later, I'm like, thinking. I'm like, why the hell? Like, why that? Why respond to that in that manner? And then delete it. And it was just like, oh, I see what Elon is doing. He's, like, bringing attention to this because he knows if he interacts with this thing, it'll blow up. And he interacted with that. That was actually the first taste of this kind of, like, turning into. You know, you get that. That tweet, then you get Kanye West. He's on Alex Jones a couple months later. After that, you get, was it October 7th? And then the snowball, you get Jew tunnels and all the rest of the shit. Now everybody's noticing, right? Like, I've been talking about this. I was docked 4 years ago for saying shit about Jewish NFL owners not knowing that I'm playing my. I'm playing my role in making this ball go. But it's also very frustrating because I'm like, well, this is. This is happening, right? And we're just supposed to also ignore it. Like, I don't. I don't know how to navigate through that still. And I try to be like, it's.
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David Lee Corbo
Like a pressure cooker, right? So. So this utilizing the term anti Semitism, it quells speech, but it never quite goes away. It just builds up and builds up and builds up. And then when you finally create a platform like Twitter or, you know, buy a platform like Twitter, and you allow this rhetoric, it explodes, and it manifests into actual anti Semitism. And you don't really need, you know, like, Top is talking about. It's just like, Elon just gives it a little. Just flicks it. You know what I mean?
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Top Lobster
He moves the culture.
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Ben
Yeah, yeah. If the algorithm is pushing it, you probably don't want it, right?
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David Lee Corbo
Or now it's Dan Bilzeri. I mean, look, this is coming from a guy. I was just on Stu Peters documentary Occupied, and. But I recognize, like, oh, that's a little cultural flick. And then Dan Bilzerian coming out, and he's talking about. And that's a little cultural.
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Ben
Who inverted masculinity? I'm sorry, The Entire masculinity movement is the same as the feminist movement. It's been co opted by the CIA to invert what it means to be a man. Love women, love your family, love children.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
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Ben
So it's weird that a guy with 23 million followers or whatever then joins.
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David Lee Corbo
This grift, by the way, who disappears out of the public eye for a number of years, comes back and goes, it's the Jews. It's just weird, man. And then he's got like, obviously the goat head or whatever it is as his sort of his, his logo on top.
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Emily
I can see that.
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Top Lobster
You know, on top of that he's like, well, 33 years ago I decided I've been smoking weed for 33 years and I stopped because it's making me dumber. So instead it's like, listen, if you don't want to smoke weed, fine. I understand that this is, it's a, it's not for everybody. But then he's like, instead, I'm doing mushrooms and you should probably do it too. And I'm like, that's fucking wild to say. Like, again, yeah, mushrooms. If you're going to do this stuff in a controlled setting or whatever, just know who you are. But for somebody with such a large audience to just blanket and be like, yeah, this is right for you. This is what, this is what pharmaceutical companies do. They're like, this is probably right for you. Millions of people.
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David Lee Corbo
Psilocybin might be right for you. Yeah.
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Ben
Think about all the damage he's caused on an entire generation of men who trust me, there, there should be a natural reaction to the feminization of men in the West. This is really happening. But what this cabal does is they put in their agents to invert this ultimately makes it anti family, anti human, and leading us from being led by spirit. Right. And just take a look at like the Christian nationalist movement. Right, I'll just, I don't want to throw, you know, hurl mud at people or stuff like that. But just take a look at Candace Owens, who just got anti Semite of the year. Right. Do you know who she's married to? Yeah, right. I mean, she's literally married to the system. So how you fight in the system when you're married to it. Just look at Nick Fuentes. I don't even want to go into his personal life, but it's kind of the irony that he's leading a Christian movement is funny to me. But I remember when, you know, the feds, you know, had their guys planted in January 6th and then I see these videos of Nick telling all these people to storm the Capitol and nothing happens to him. And I get these, you know, this whole idea that these people are after Nick. Well, guess what? They fake Trump's assassination. That's how they create these messiah type figures, you know, and even Stu Peters all going to sue Peters, right? Like, at worst he's a false disciple, at best he's a modern day Pharisee. Because I don't know what you call somebody who's led by their own interpretation of scripture. And the oral tradition of Nazis, right? That's exactly what the Pharisees of the Israelites did. And remember, there's nothing new under the sun. What will be done will be done again. And that goes for the technological revolution as well as the behavior of spiritual Israel, the body of Christ. It's interesting that Jesus came back to challenge the oral tradition and then in return, the physical Christian church is steep in Babylonian oral tradition. I mean, you just go to Rome and I listen if you go to church and it's a vehicle to leave it at Jesus, good. But if you look at, you know, the oral tradition of both Roman and Greek Orthodoxy, right, they worship the Virgin Mary, the mother of heaven. And there's Bible quotes of Jesus saying, no, you pray to the Father and in, I think it's whatever in Ezekiel or maybe they talk about them making cakes for the Queen of heaven. And then you have the Protestant Reformation and I'm sorry, Martin Luther was a Rosicrucian, go look at his rosy cross. And those guys are, what's it called, Druids, right? They worship the gods. And I would argue that whenever there was a split in the physical church, it was just these bloodlines fighting. And they had to change the religion a little bit to say, oh, look, we're different and we're doing this for spiritual reasons. But I think it was ultimately just these bloodline fighting for control. And I'll go into it with the, you know, Jewish people as well. Their rabbis don't teach Isaiah 52. And if you read Isaiah 52, it's the exact life of Jesus, the Messiah. And if you look at Messianic Jews, when they talk about how they turn to Jesus and all that kind of stuff, they say, yeah, we don't teach this stuff. So I think we're all, you know, led away from these Pharisees, these movements, which is why I say Jesus only. And guess what? If you follow Jesus only, there's no one you have to defend because Jesus didn't sin we sin, right? It's in our nature. And that's what I'm all about. No movements. They're all corrupted. Just follow Jesus. And that's alone.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah. Shout out to Z, man. By the way, mushrooms are for pussies. Eat Benadryl like a man. I recommend Benadryl as possible. And when you see the hat man, call him a faggot.
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Top Lobster
Dude, listen, if you're doing Benadryl, you're a 2K2.
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David Lee Corbo
Do some spice K2. Where's the spice Girls at?
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Top Lobster
Please don't do that.
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David Lee Corbo
People really love the Spice Girls thing, by the way. Yeah, I, I. So my thing is, Jesus is the only thing that I'm really certain about. And then everything else, I'm like, I'm trying to navigate it, and right when you think you have something, you hit a wall and you're like, that doesn't feel right. That's. That's something strange. Let's leave this to the side and look at something else. And over and over again that happens where these different denominations have one idiosyncrasy or another that just doesn't vibe well with me. And I'm like, maybe it really is. Maybe during this time, it's like there is no house that has it under control or that has the narrative under wraps entirely. And that this is. I mean, it's always been the calling, right? But more so than ever, it's like, personal relationship with Christ. That does not mean personal Christ. Right? Because there's like, that weird thing too, where it's like, this is my Jesus. My Jesus is a hippie and he smokes weed and he drives an Astro van. Like, no, that. Not, not your own personal Jesus. Your personal relationship with Jesus. Seek out Christ on your own and use these things. Like you said, if the church brings you closer to Christ, then, like, that's good. But it just feels to me like everything has been poisoned one way or another. And I, you know, that's. That's one of the things that keeps keeping me away from going to a physical church. It's like, you know, I went one time in the past year, and they were talking about, you know, Israel and how it's good, the war is good, because it was like an evangelical church. And I was like. And they're talking about, like, I know it's sad that babies are getting blown up, but, like, ultimately this is all good. And I'm like, bro, I. I am retarded, but I can't even make that sort of a leap. Babies blown up is Good.
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Ben
I think, yeah. God told us these things will happen, never that we should participate them.
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David Lee Corbo
Right.
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Ben
And if you, like I said, if you really want to fight this, I don't think the agenda stops. Right. I think revelation tells us that, you know, the world gets destroyed, you have the rise of the Antichrist. Right? So, I mean, anybody who tells you from a government position, we're fighting the deep state, we're fighting the Nephilim world order is full of it. I think they're just an agent of Rome. Ultimately, I think that. And it doesn't matter who's in charge at the end of the day, nothing these people do affects our salvation. Only our personal choices affect our salvation. So I think as much fun as this to talk about this stuff, and I do, it really has nothing to do with the bigger, you know, point of why we're here.
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David Lee Corbo
Right, right.
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Ben
And that's what they want us to get chopped down and start blaming people for our own decisions. Right? Yeah. And like I said, it all points back to, this is just one big test. Right? And God is watching every decision we make. He's seeing, hey, listen, are these people following, you know, Satan? Are they being led by these horrible spirits or are they loving me? Are they loving their neighbor like they love themselves? And like you said, that doesn't mean Jesus is some hippie and anything goes, but Jesus meets us where we're at, right? And no one's beyond redeemable. And I think that we should actually view this time as, all right, I'm gonna take everything I know about conspiracies. I'm gonna tell all these people all the false things about their reality. But I, then I'm going to deliver the truth, which is Jesus, and that he died for our sins. You know, I call, you know, I, I Uber, right? I call it my mobile ministry. Because after I found out all this stuff, I was like, I gotta tell everybody, right? I went to sci. I had other jobs and stuff like that, but I spent about two years researching all this stuff. I was like, if I truly believe this, I gotta go tell everybody. So I drive around in my Uber and I black pilled the out of people. But then I give him a glass of God to wash it down.
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David Lee Corbo
There you go.
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Ben
Which I call the biblical narrative. I go, you're all gonna die over the next seven to 10 years. But don't worry.
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David Lee Corbo
Yes. I'm trying to explain that to my wife, dude. Where it's like, I'm telling you everything. My wife has gotten to the point where she's like, okay, go off. You've been right about a lot. You can continue. And so I'll tell her things. And it's like, it sounds all doom and gloom, but I'm like, no, there's. There's something more important beyond all of this. But it's funny that Christianity is almost seen as corny to conspiracy theorists. Right? There's this vibe for the past, like, decade or two decades where it's like, oh, you know, I'm a conspiracy theorist and Christians are just taking this simplistic bait in. In a worldview that doesn't. And then when you look at it, you're like, oh, no. I now think that the edge of the knife is like, like Christian conspiracy theories. And I'm not saying that the conspiracy theorist is aspect is more important than the Christian aspect. What I'm saying is all of it, like we talked about before the show started, Ben, makes sense through the biblical lens.
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Ben
And one big. What's it called? Conspiracy. And if you notice, you know, there's a famous passage, those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
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David Lee Corbo
Yes.
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Ben
And if you look at the ancient history where I think the truth is, all the other stories validate each other. The question is, are these gods good gods? Should we worship the gods or are they fallen gods? And should we worship the one supreme God? And that's where I side with the biblical narrative. And yeah, so I think all these conspiracies just validate each other. You know, each one of them, I think we just have to choose which is the correct one.
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David Lee Corbo
I always say too, like, when it comes to people get upset with me on Twitter anecdote, and they'll be like, oh, you believe in the Christian God, but you think that you're right and everybody else is wrong, Theirs don't exist. I'm like, no, there's do exist. You know, the Vedic gods do exist. The Greek gods do exist. I think they're all real. But the thing that you have to look out for here is obviously the nature of what these things are is the most important. And that's where the Bible deviates from all these other, you know, ancient religions. But you need only look at the gods themselves, these deities, and then look at Jesus Christ and realize that the stark contrast here is that they all demand sacrifice from you and only one sacrificed for you. And that turns the whole paradigm on its head. And for a long time, the consideration of, like, other religions was absent from Christianity. But, you know, going back to Gary Wayne and that whole Worldview, you realize, like, oh, no, it's all there. It's all incorporated. It's just what the church feeds you versus what you can interpret it. Doing your own research. And it's like, oh, yeah, there's tons of other entities. Oh, yeah, you should not have any gods before me. And it's like, okay, what other gods? You know what I mean? That. That's like the simplest question right off the bat. And then through that question, it opens up so many other things.
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Ben
Oh, yeah. And that means human gods, too. You know, I. I watched the behavior of, you know, conservative Christians and this, you know, worshiping Trump as some messianic figures. Like I said, remember, nothing new is under the sun. What will be done will be done. Again, I'm butchering that Bible passage, but you know what I mean? And I think that conservative Christians are making the same mistake the ancient Israelites made when they rejected God to be their king and opted for Saul to be their king. And if you look at the history of the Israelites, that didn't work out for them. And I see the same thing with, you know, Christian conservatives. Hey, Jesus is here. He's going to lead us. Forget this government. But no, no, no, we want to be like the other nations. We need a human leader to lead us into battle against the Deep State and all that kind of stuff. And I don't think it's going to turn out good for conservative Christians. And if you look at the punishment for worshiping a golden calf, they melted it down and they had to drink the gold. Only this time, I think we're gonna have to, you know, drink a lot of metal or iron, because ultimately, what Trump is going to usher in in this golden era is transhumanism. And like I said, I think Zionism and all this stuff that we see today is just a vehicle for the end goal. And I don't think there's any stopping the agenda. And if you think there is, then you're telling you. So I guess what I'm trying to say is you can't think that Trump is actually gonna fight the Deep State and believe in biblical prophecy at the same time.
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David Lee Corbo
Right?
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Ben
Because that's not what happens. I mean, in Daniel 8, it talks about, you know, the beast that rules, and then it talks about how he battles the prince of princes. Right, Jesus, and he says that his rule will end, but not by human force. Right, By God's army. So anyone who tells you they're fighting this, you know, deep state, nephilim world order, whatever you want to call it to me is just controlled opposition. Anyone that's not part of the Great Commission. Right. And I'm sorry, you know, within Christian nationalism, I'm still trying to find that passage in the Bible or in the Great Commission where we're supposed to create a white Christian ethnostate. In fact, it doesn't say that this is ultimately, I think, a colony of Rome, or you could say a colony of Israel. Like I said, it doesn't matter who you think is in charge. But that's not what the Bible tells us to do. It tells us to go baptize the nations, you know, teach those that everything that Jesus commanded of us. And I look at these, you know, movements, these earthly movements couldn't be farther from what Jesus told us to do.
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David Lee Corbo
And I understand that the culture has been such over the past decade or so that the idea of Christian nationalism sounds refreshing.
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Ben
Yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
Especially since we're in the renaissance of, like, you know, what is it, National Socialism? This idea of, like, championing what Hitler was trying to accomplish, which is interesting and I think also psychological operation. But I can see how you might yearn for it, seeing all the debauchery, drag queen, story hour, you name it. But just pump the brakes for a second. You're about to trust in man's hands, the ability to represent God on a national level. We are going to fail. And what sort of spiritual ramifications are there to fumbling that ball? Yeah, I don't want to know.
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Ben
And listen, with all this pressure from above and pressure from below us, humans are ripe to be taken advantage of by Albert Pike's Masonic heroes. Whenever the people need a hero, we will supply them. But you notice these heroes ultimately lead us away from salvation. And that's why I just say, listen, let them do whatever they want to do. I really don't care. Because, you know, I think if we're led by spirit, right, which we should be, then our message should be one of salvation, right? I think when Jesus came back the first time, right, and, you know, the Israelites asked him, should we pay taxes to Caesar? And he says, pay to Caesar. What is Caesar Pay to God's. What is God's right. The money had Caesar's name on it. That's his. He runs this world. God requires our spiritual capital. He requires our spirit. And that's why they also rejected him as a messiah, because they thought they were going to overthrow Rome's government. I don't think that's our job. I think we should take the lead from Jesus he tells us what we need to do. He told us to focus on salvation. He told us that this kingdom of heaven is spiritual and a relationship with him is personal. And all this other stuff is just noise, in my opinion. Now it's fun to talk about. And sometimes I scroll through Twitter and I say things that I shouldn't say and whatever. And at the end I say, I'm sorry, God, I'm sorry for doing that. But isn't that funny? And that's the one thing I noticed as someone who's lived in sin my. Most of my life. Right. The minute I realized there was a creator out there. And I don't like to put this creator into a box. At least that I can understand. He's the creator of everything, right? But this creator's watching everything that I do. He's taking notes. He's checking it twice. And I find myself now every time I screw up, right. I think when we screw up, we're divorce ourselves from God, right? We're no longer led by a spirit. I go, I'm sorry about that. I'm sorry about that. It's funny how that holds you accountable and actually makes you a better person.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah. I would like to say to everybody that I drag on the Internet, do know that after I call you a. It does weigh heavy on me. And I think about whether or not I should have done that. I could do it.
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Top Lobster
I'm making you better, really. But, yeah, it comes at a price. Comes at a price. Heavy price on my end, but it does, right?
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David Lee Corbo
I always wonder that about you, Top. Because I, you know, you and I both say wild things. You probably go multitudes of steps beyond what I say. And I go, this is. I wonder if this weighs heavy because when I. When I pray or when I ask for forgiveness, a lot of the times, because otherwise, off of the Internet, I live a very uneventful life. Like, I don't sin, because I don't. I'm sure there are ways, but, like, I don't do anything.
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Ben
Yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
Sin for my sofa, watching cartoons with my kid. I don't know. So I find that the. The things that do weigh heavy on me oftentimes are. Are Twitter interactions, memes that I dropped. I dropped a meme the other day on somebody where it was a stick figure that he was sucking a million dicks. Just said, you on it. And I. And when, you know, I felt bad about it.
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Ben
Hey, never. For Purkis, we all fall short of the glory of God, right? Myself included.
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David Lee Corbo
Yes, yes, yes, yes. What do you think? I wanted to ask you something, and if this derails you too much, please feel free to give a truncated answer. But this idea of, you know, Nimrod and this resurrection chamber of Gilgamesh, this idea that there seems to be some importance to the genetic material of Nimrod and how that plays into the Antichrist. This is somebody that will be either genetically compatible with Nimrod. This is a theory that goes out.
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Ben
From a lot of people. Yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
Like I said, interesting.
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Ben
I like your show. I listen to a lot of it, especially when Ed Edbury comes on and he was talking about how each generation has an Antichrist in waiting.
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Top Lobster
Yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
Yes.
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Ben
And I think it's possible. Right. I guess Nimrod became a Nephilim. Right. Which means his spirit did not take it to heaven when he died. And I wonder if each Antichrist in waiting is actually a vessel for the spirit of Nimrod to come back.
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David Lee Corbo
That's interesting. You know what? So we're talking about the mark of the Beast, how it makes you. You ineligible for salvation. Right. And that Nimrod became a gibberim. And I know, you know, really what's important is, is there biblical context to back up these theories, But I still can't help but explore them. I wonder what happened to Nimrod that changed him from just a normal man to a gibberim. And was it something that achieved the same effects that the mark would?
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Ben
Yeah, that. Like you said, we can only guess about that type of stuff. I mean, none of us know for sure. You know for sure. I was listening to a couple of those podcasts when they had those jewels that he wore, possibly that you guys did one on.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, yeah, I think it was the. The Code of Many Colors. That was Justin Brown of Prometheus Lens podcast, who you should 100 link up with, conversation with him. But he talks about how there were priestly robes that were stripped off the nakash in the garden when God cast the serpent out, and that those robes were then given to Adam. And he thinks that you can trace it down all the way, you know, to Noah, to Nimrod, ultimately ending at Joseph and the Code of Many Colors. So I don't know how true that is, but he does a great job of creating a compelling case for it. And. Yeah, I mean, maybe it could have.
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Ben
Been fallen angel tech. Who knows, you know?
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David Lee Corbo
Right.
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Ben
And that's kind of. Yeah. Gone.
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Top Lobster
Oh, no. Go ahead, finish your thought out. But I want to tag on there. Go ahead.
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Ben
Well, if it's Fallen angel tech possibly, then that lines up with exactly what the market the Beast is. And I don't think these little computer chips that Elon Musk is trying to sell us on is the actual technology for the Mark of the Beast. I think this technology, like you said, is going to change our genetics to a point that we're no longer humans, making us a Nephilim. And who knows, if they had that type of technology back in the day, how did they create that portal, that Tower of Babel? It doesn't make sense that it was just some tower that went into the sky vertically and that's how they're going to reach the heavens. And if you look at the old Acadian, you know, language, Babel derives from Babili and it means gateway to the gods. Right. So gateway. You know, I think this tech is starting to make its head, you know, starting to make a presence in front of us. And it was tech from way back in the day.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, when the mark. When. Go ahead, Top.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, we. Because we, we've interviewed somebody. Name of the episode is they upgraded me for War. And Tony Merkel has also interviewed the guy. Was he calling him Ron or. He interviewed the guy that was friends with Ron. Have you heard the story?
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Ben
No.
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Top Lobster
Okay. Yeah, it's. It's just more of the same and this seems to happen in Indiana, but this guy.
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Ben
Oh, I heard the story with Ron and Ball. Right, right.
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Top Lobster
Yeah. Well, actually Ron's brother, or the Iran's brother was approached by Ball, but. No, no, sorry. Ron is the guy and his brother was approached by Ball separately. Ron is somebody else that was approached by another entity. But it's, it's kind of reminding me like so they, he said that, that he's gone to this other realm and they perform surgery on him, whatever that means. And then there's an experience or a testimony from Ron where he's next to his friend and his friend basically checks out, goes somewhere else and this other entity comes forth and he grows and he's like, he's like bigger. Same dude, face is like a little different, but he grows wider, as tall as the door frame. And the guy was like, oh, this is not my friend, this is something else. And in conjunction with okay, so you went to another realm, you had some kind of surgery. And then our other friend Colin, he was upgraded for war. They told him you consented to this. They did something to him. But he doesn't have a follow up story about being inhabited, but this guy does and he's inhabited. Something comes forth, his body actually changes. He became gibborim. Is that like, would that be the correct.
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Yeah, I think that when you are possessed, that demon inside of you can literally change your DNA. I'm watching again, you know the Stranger Things show.
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Top Lobster
Yeah.
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Ben
Now granted, that's a gnostic interpretation of what's going on right with the demigod and L. You notice that 11 is called L, which is the name of a fallen angel.
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Top Lobster
Oh, no, that's like.
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Ben
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
Elohim. Oh, my.
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Ben
Right, so Mikey L. Samuel. They said it's short for 11, but it's not. It's L. And she's fighting the demigod or the demiurge. Yeah. But what it shows one of the kids that's, you know, possessed by one of these demons, his body literally changes. It changes the genetic makeup of that kid. So possibly that's what happened to Nimrod. Maybe somehow these fallen entities have this supernatural ability that once they're in these humans, that they can literally shapeshift these humans into something completely different.
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David Lee Corbo
You know, how. How totally it would be if they. They rolled out the mark. And we're all looking for something that is going to restrict you one way or another from being able to buy or sell goods. And it just comes with a plethora of other shit. Like, dudes are getting this. Becoming the height of door frames, being able to jump, really. You know what I mean? Like, if there was an athleticism angle to it where it's like, yeah, I got this dude, and now I'm pretty much the strongest guy in my town. I don't drive anywhere. I run every. I run everywhere really fast. You know what I mean? Like, if they did that sort of a thing, that would be a hugely problematic because.
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Top Lobster
Hold on a second, dude. With Colin, and this is. He's mentioned, like, so he was abducted in some kind of abduction scenario. And they're doing something to him, and he. They keep yelling at him. You consented to this. You consented to this. You consented this to this before you were born. Like, calm down. So there's an element of consent. There's an element of actual physical surgery, whether it be in this realm or the next. But. But when we talk to him, I'm like, how are you doing? He's like, I'm doing great physically. Like, he's running miles with the 50 pound, like, you know, rug. What do they call it?
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Ben
Yeah, military vest or something.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, yeah. And. And he's like, eating better. Just like, stronger. I'm like, that's something. That's weird. It's.
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David Lee Corbo
By the way, he said, but I'm.
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Ben
Still possessed by ball.
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David Lee Corbo
I don't know. I don't know if he is. I mean, you know, he's. He's going to church a lot and all these other things. But it's interesting because you touched on something Ben, earlier When you said, like, you get into contact with these entities and they're telling you to become vegetarian. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Ben
And along those lines of the Mark of the Beast. And I've thought about this. Like, how are they going to trick us into turning ourselves into cyborgs? And one thing could be, you know, oh, we're stronger, more powerful. Yeah, I'm going to do it, But I think there's a healing component to that, right? I think that they're going to hurt a bunch of humans during World War three. I think that our limbs are going to be blown off. I think types of wild stuff's going to happen with the Remnant, people that survive. And these elites are going to come to us and say, hey, listen, you want to heal yourself? You can't move your arm. You're paralyzed from what happened in the war. Guess what? We can now put a chip in your brain, and you'll be fully healed. And then you'll see that miracle, and you'll start worshiping the beast that gave you that technology.
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David Lee Corbo
The. The original. In Exodus, where it says, you shall have no other gods before me, the original language was Elohim, right?
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Ben
Yeah, B'nai Elohim.
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David Lee Corbo
Right. So this is just to address one of our homies. Where'd he go? Neurotic, nice guy, says, where is that idea that Elohim isn't God coming from? I. I don't know if where that idea is coming from, but it seems that God references himself as Elohim, but also tells you not to take any other Elohim before him. Insinuating it's a classification. Yeah, so, yeah, exactly. Top.
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Ben
I think it's a place of residency. Right. I think that if you live in the heavens, the upper dimensions, you're Elohim now. You have the Supreme Elohim, capital E, which is God, the creator. And then you have all the other people or entities in the heaven that are. Lowercase Elohim.
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David Lee Corbo
Yes. If you had human beings and then you had a king, you wouldn't say that that king is not a human being. You just recognize him as being like the. The, you know, tip of the spear, the most elite human being. And so I think in that way, that that makes sense, at least that that resonates with me.
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Ben
But, yeah, one thing I do want.
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David Lee Corbo
To talk about taking the mark to get taller. You know, how much if they offered me that, dude, I would be. I'd have to pray real hard.
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Ben
That's why I tell people. I'm like, listen, if you survive world War iii, whatever you do, do not stick a brain chip in your head, because according to the Bible, what happens to those people, it's not a very good thing.
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David Lee Corbo
Right, right, right.
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Ben
But the one thing I do want to talk about, though, and how do we fight this agenda? Because I think this agenda has many tentacles in its physical form. And ultimately, like I said, it's a battle for our spirit and it's the focus on our own salvation. So instead of blaming this group or this group, I think the real conversation. And you guys were having that with your last discussion with Ed Marbury on what actually leads to salvation, Right? Because that's what it's all about. And when I started, I'm not a biblical scholar, right? By any means, I'm just a conspiracy theorist. That's a biblical worldview. And when I started diving into this whole idea of faith versus faith plus works, right? What actually leads to salvation, One thing I notice is that it divides the body of Christ, right? You have the Roman Catholics and the Eastern Orthodoxy who believe that space bus works. You have the Protestant Reformation and all the divisions within the procession that you're saved by grace. It's faith alone, right? But the one thing I noticed is that regardless of what debate you were outside the debate you were on, no one ever like to quote Yeshua or Jesus, our Messiah. And I know why we wouldn't quote that. He is the Son of God. He speaks on the full authority of God in heaven, and probably because he says things like this, you know, Matthew 7, 21, 23, not everyone who says to me, lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven, right? He's giving you an example of where just belief is not enough. You need to do the will of the Father in heaven. But it goes on to say, many will say to me on that day, lord, Lord, did we not perform many miracles? Then tell, did we not prophesize in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles? Then I will tell them plainly. I never knew you away from me, you evildoers. Give an example of someone with faith plus works not getting into heaven, and he's clear it's the will of the Father in heaven, Right? That's what we have to do. So what is the will of the Father in heaven? Well, I do know he said the two most important commandments that all prophets live by are love God with all your heart and love your neighbor like you love yourself. If you do those two things, you'll notice all other commandments will fall into place.
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David Lee Corbo
Isn't it because my neighbor, he pissed me. Well. And I'm really not a fan of it at all. He's like a Mexican guy that starts drinking at like 7am and then he pisses all over my stairwell. And I know it didn't rain, but I know that it splashed when I stepped down the stairs. And I'm working on it.
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Ben
Yeah. You know, and also one of the good things, I mean, I lived a life of sin, right. I was really down in the dumps. I did things that I'm not proud about, but it gave me a humility, right? I mean, if God forgive me, how can I not forgive other people?
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David Lee Corbo
Right?
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Ben
And I continue to sin. So if we are truly led by spirit, which we should be, and God leads us, then we have to forgive people. And it's hard, right? It's hard to be humans. It's hard to forgive people. But when you understand that these people are just deceived and what did Jesus say as they were leading him to. That I forgive them, Father. They know not what they do. And none of us know what we're doing to a certain extent until we find Jesus, until we find the truth within Scripture and everything that Jesus commanded of us. So I think I actually look at these people as poor lost souls and I'm certain lost to a certain extent. Right. I don't think any of us have the full truth of what's going on. And we all live in sin on a daily basis. But I look at these as lost souls who need the gospel, who need the message of Jesus, who needs the message of salvation through the death and resurrection of him.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, I, I, I think about that a lot because I go pretty hard on people. But, and, and I don't know if I'm just coping from, with my own shitty behavior, which is high likelihood, but I don't know that that is synonymous with harboring resentment or not forgiving or hating somebody. Because I don't think that I hate anybody. I don't think there's anybody that I hate. And I think that means that whatever they do to me, I'm pretty good at just like letting it go. Just let it go. It's fine. They're figuring it out. I don't need it to poison my well and weigh me down. I've always lived like that. But that almost feels like too simple. Sometimes I'm in my head and I'm like, is that it is, Is God asking Me to just not hate and resent people and not let it weigh on my heart? Or is there. Am I meant to be going?
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Ben
Well, I think there's something bigger to it on why we shouldn't hate people. I think there's a passage in the Bible, right, where Jesus says this. He goes, anyone who hates a brother or sister is a murderer. And we know murderers do not have eternity lying within them. Right. Jesus wants us to return home. He doesn't want us to go to hell. So he gives. I view salvation as like a puzzle, Right. Because you can make a case for either one. And I think we have to call on the Holy Spirit to lead us and put into this puzzle together. And ultimately, I think we should go to what Jesus says first and not what the apostles or disciples say when they're trying to make a case. Because I think a lot of these ideas are academic. I think when people take Paul out of context to go in direct conflict with what Jesus said, it's not probably necessarily what Paul meant. And you got to read 20 lines above it and 20 lines below it. And he was the rabbi to the Gentiles, right. So he's this Jewish guy that knows the law, and he'll make both cases and pull certain pieces out of what he says to go in direct conflict of what Jesus said. And I think that within our oral traditions, this can be taken to a further extent. Right. With what you see in the Protestant Reformation and Calvinism. Right. Once saved, always saved, Right? Well, I don't think that's true. And if it was true, Paul wouldn't say we should wrestle with our salvation with fear and trembling. Right. If it was as simple as a single prayer, then why are we to wrestle with this with fear and trembling? Because it's not. And like I said, what did Jesus say? And it's multiple times Jesus says, the will of our Father gets us into heaven. I mean, it's literally the second thing we pray for in the Lord's Prayer after we glorify God. Right. Our Father in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Your kingdom come, your will be done. That's ultimately what we want. And I think conversations like this where what is the will of our Father? What does our Father want us to do? Are so much more important in the grand scheme than who runs everything. Yeah. Because ultimately, you know, these people are going to run it. We're not going to overthrow these people running the system.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
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Ben
But where we can make a difference is in this spiritual battle, which is even more real.
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David Lee Corbo
We got to Kind of bring it in for a landing. We have another show to do. But I wanted to ask you your opinion on something. This is something that I find very difficult. So the name of God, right? It's Yahweh. It's. It's. It's Jehovah to. To other people. And when I pray, I. I say Father God, because I'm referencing the Father that Jesus Christ talks about. But, like, is there importance in the name? It seems like there's importance in the name. And do you think that any of the ones that we kind of toss around have any validity?
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Ben
Well, I mean, I also. So I think there is. I think it's yes and no. Right. There's certain names out there that are similar to God's name that are these fallen entities. And if you call out to that, are you actually calling out to one of these fallen entities? Right, right. But I also think that God reads our hearts, right? So if we say God the most high, if we say Yahweh, if we say Jesus, I think God reads our hearts and he knows who we're calling out to. Right? Because we don't actually know what, you know. I mean, the best I can find is that Jesus's name, at least in Hebrew, is Yeshua Hamashiach or whatever. But I still. I don't know how to pronounce that. And when I'm saying Jesus, am I saying that wrong? And, you know, I don't know, somebody.
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David Lee Corbo
The other day, they're like, oh, did you know that Jesus is actually just a perversion of the name Zeus and that that's not really Jesus's name and that. Or. Or did you know that it's actually Joshua, you know, Yeshua, Joshua, Jesus. And. And I'm like, dude, I'm so. I just pray to God that he forgives me for being as dumb as I am, because I can't.
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Emily
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David Lee Corbo
Huh. There's too much. There's a lot of stuff to sift through. It's Jesus, Yeshua, Yahweh, Jehovah, man.
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Top Lobster
Well, here's the thing. It's like when my daughter was three or so, we don't give her the phone that much, but she would ask for shoe. Shoes. And that means videos. But if she said Shushu and I gave her a shoe, she'd be like, you're stupid. And I'm like, I know what you mean. You meant Shushu. Here's the shoe. Shoe. That's the video. I'm not giving you sneakers. And I think it's the same sort of thing. Like we're, you know, we're, we are retarded because we are like children because we're, we're only here for a finite amount of time. So like to pick up on these things. I think, like, like Ben was saying, there is a bit of understanding and leeway on God's side. Now if I'm calling out an ancient deity's name and then giving that my worship, I think God is going to be like, yeah, you, you know what you're doing there?
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
And you're aiming it at something specific. Which also goes to our Christmas episode where, you know, I got two trees in my house, but it's like I'm not, I'm not sure that's a funny one.
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Ben
Right. Pagan holidays versus the biblical holidays.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
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Ben
And I celebrate a combination of the two. Right. I got to make my parents happy.
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Emily
Right?
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David Lee Corbo
Right. Right.
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Ben
I gotta go visit mom for Christmas. But I did start celebrating the biblical holidays and they actually were played a positive role in my life. Right. I saw some fruit. You know, I think there's a reason God tells us to do the things he tells us to do.
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David Lee Corbo
Right.
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Ben
I don't think it's unforgivable. Right. There's only one forgivable sin that's blasphemies against the Holy Spirit. Now what is that? I think that has to do with messing with our genetics. Right. To the point we're no longer humans. But I think as long as we try, I think as long as we try to follow, you know, Jesus's commandments, God's happy with us. Right. As long as we're not like a net negative to society. Right. I do think it's more than a simple prayer. We don't get up that easy. And when you think it's just a simple prayer, then it really excuses all your behavior in the future. Right. Well, I'm saved already. I can do this, this and that. And I don't think it's that easy. And I don't think it's like just specific works either. Right. I think when you get into Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy, they believe in faith plus works, but part of their faith or part of their works is that you have to be part of that specific church.
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David Lee Corbo
Right?
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Ben
Right. Like if you're not in this specific physical church, which is an act, Right. You're not saved and you're like, wait a minute, that doesn't make sense.
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Top Lobster
That's man created stuff. I mean, I. Again, it's, it's one of Those things where like a parent will tell the child a lie to kind of keep them on track. But I like, I get it, you know what I mean? Like they, they don't want you scampering away, so they've lied to you to keep you there in order to protect you and continue on this path. It's not, not great. But I don't know where that even falls. God judges you. But I do understand that, you know, like, don't touch that fire to your kid. And it's like you'll get, your hand will fall off or whatever. You just, I don't want you to touch that fire.
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Ben
And we still do every time, and we still do every day. I mean, God lays it out for us pretty clearly and we still continue to touch that fire. It's part of our, you know, sinful nature as humans. And I think as long as we try to get better one step of the day, you know, one step every day. And we're gonna go back, right? There's going to be some things that happen to our lives by the hands of the adversary. And these demons, like I said, they're trying to pull us away from that. And it's important to recognize what that is and not succumb to it. Right. In all things, just glorify God, both the good and the bad. And if you do that, we get to go home.
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Top Lobster
Yeah. I think the thing that we're also like, very important that we should focus on is the relationship idea. Like when he tells you, when Jesus says, I'll tell you to depart from me, that I didn't know you, it makes a lot of sense. We spoke about it with Ed Mabry where it's like, why would I want to live forever with a guy that I don't even know? And why would he want me there as well? He'd be like, I don't really know you. You gotta leave my house. So the relationship part is important. You can't just get married to your wife and then never talk to her again. Expect it to be some kind of a relationship. Like you gotta talk every day, you gotta work on it. How was work? I don't really care, but ask her. You know, there's a two way sort of thing going on.
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Ben
I agree with you and I kind of see this whole like. And you've talked about it before, this whole resurrection of everybody claiming crisis king. It's in everybody's profile. Crisis king. But how many of those people are actually following Christ? Right? How many of those people are actually having A relationship with Christ. And to me, that's just more of a psyop of one saved, always saved.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah. I think that people are using it as an offensive mechanism, you know, to push back against a culture that they don't agree with, rather.
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Top Lobster
And I get it. Right. Are you sympathetic to that? Like, it's like, you can't. You can't lay down and get beaten up this much, but you also can't repeat the same history. This is like going back to the middle of the episode where it's just Weimar Germany and the Nazi Republic all over again, where we see how that ended up for the German people. They ended up getting firebombed, paying reparations, and now they're cut to all hell for 80 years after. Is that what you want to repeat? Like, I understand the opposition to it, but, like, maybe push hard, but then stop for a second and be like, all right, where is this ball rolling? And do I want to continue that path?
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Ben
Death? Well, to me, I don't think there's any stopping it. Right. I mean, I think the agenda continues whether we like it or not.
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David Lee Corbo
Correct.
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Ben
And the best way to fight the agenda is understand what it is at its core. And we've talked about this a million times. It's to lead us away from God. So the only way to fight the agenda is one, protect your family. Right? I think that's first and foremost from all these, you know, evil things are going out, and whether that's home, school or whatever you got to do to not be dependent on the satanic system, then you got to do it. And second to that is, then go teach people about God. You know, be an example to people who don't believe in God. You don't even have to, you know, preach the gospel to somebody, right? If they say, look at you, say, oh, this guy's living this way. Look at all these good things in his life. He's got a family and he loves God. Then you're just, you know, a great messenger for the idea that God is real. And look how God has changed my life. And I also realized that no amount of scripture is going to change someone's behavior if they're not led by spirit, right? And I think when I go around in my Uber and I teach these people and I meet people from all across the spectrum, right? I go with God's real. There's this Holy Spirit, and then I get into Jesus and dying for our sins. And if you can, you know, find common ground with somebody before beating their head in or saying, you're going to hell for this. I mean, no one's going to be, you know, open to what you have to say. If you start with you're going to hell and understand that Jesus meets us where we're at, and if we're truly, you know, led by spirit, then I think that in the back of our mind, and we all have different ways to get there. And I saw you guys post this stuff, how you have followers that reach out to you guys and say, hey, your show brought me back to Jesus. Right?
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David Lee Corbo
So wild.
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Ben
Yeah, that's so wild. And that's the Great Commission, Right. And we all have different ways to get there. We have different, you know, avenues, jokes, this and that, whatever it is. But if you can just bring one person back to Christ. There's a passage that really, in the Bible that really influenced my whole view on this. And that's the passage of the 99 sheep, right? They say, you got 99 sheep. You know, one goes missing, you go out and you get that sheep. And the reason I tell you this is because there's more cheering in heavens over one sinner who needs to repent over the 99 righteous who do not. Right. God's going after the lost sheep and as messenger, as, you know, God's warriors here, led by his spirit. I think ultimately our entire goal of everything we do in our life should glorify God and lead people back to God.
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David Lee Corbo
I love that in this realm or this arena sort of that we're in, especially when you consider conspiracy, everything is so occulted and confusing and you have to really dig and do research. And I love that. There are times when I realize in. In so many ways, it almost seems like God simplified the process for us, where it's like, love my son. Believe that he died for your sins. He is the way. Have a relationship with God, Keep my commandments. And it's like in a world, by the way, that is, like, incredibly complex, incredibly confusing, things that you learn one day, you learn a week later were never true to begin with. You go down one rabbit hole or another and you're led astray. And you can only take some of the things that you've learned with you over the time that you've done research. And you learn as time goes on that everything is so complex.
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Ben
Yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
Yet this thing remains so simple. And I think there's a lot of beauty in there.
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Ben
Yeah. And I think in order to get to the truth, which is Jesus Christ, Right. We fall for a different number of psyops. And that doesn't mean you're stupid. In fact, I don't even like the term useful idiot. Because you woke up to the mainstream narrative and saw that it was. You just happened to fall for another psyop, right?
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
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Ben
I think life is a series of subjective truths, and if you do it correctly, it leads you to the objective truth, which is, Jesus died for our sins. And we all have a shot of, you know, salvation through our Creator.
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Top Lobster
Yeah. And one. One more thing before we wrap up. I have to admit, like, some people like David aren't given the. The luxury of, like, being presented that truth right away. I was since, about, like, six years old. I was in the church, and I was given that truth. Maybe I was given it poorly. Maybe I didn't do a good job of researching my own and figuring this out, but I rejected it. I didn't reject that, you know, Jesus died for our sins or that, you know, there's a God. I rejected that. This is the lens in which I should be looking at everything in life. And you go through life because you're like, I don't need that. And you get beat up, and after a while you're like, let me take a look at that again. Because things ain't so good. And I'm try. I've tried a bunch of other stuff, so let's pick this thing back up. And you're like, oh, yeah, you know, my mom was right. My dad was right. They did it weird because their parents, you know, they're doing their best. And it's like, yeah, I don't know, man. That's. I guess that's my message for people. Like, it's. It's a weird road. Take your road. If you end up here, listen to this. You hear some racial slurs, you hear about God. Go down that road, man.
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Ben
You know, the worst part about growing up is realizing your parents were pretty much right about most things.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [97:04]
Ben
You know, like, why did I try to fight this? But I think that's in our human nature. And like you said, you were, at least for me, living in sin. I was getting beat up. I was spiritually bankrupt, physically bankrupt. And what I realized a lot of that, although, was my own decisions, a lot of that was at the hands of the adversary. Right. For whatever reason, I was replacing the Holy Spirit with these drugs, which led me nowhere. And I thought it was the right thing to do. And when you realize that and the Holy Spirit came and he saved me, I'll tell you what the craziest thing ever happened. And, you know, I don't want to draw this on, but before I actually woke up to what was going on, and this is when I thought, you know, the two party paradigm, one good, one bad, you know, Covid was this bioweapon from China, geopolitics. There's good and bad, right? God had put this on my heart. And I didn't even realize it was God at the time because I didn't believe in God, that this was all coming to an end, right? I gotta get off these drugs. If the world's coming to an end, I can't be looking for a fix as it's on fire, right? And I decided to get off of drugs. And two or three days into that, my friend goes, hey, you need to pray to God. I go, I've never tried that. But at this point, I was searching for anything. And I kid you not, I prayed to God for the first time and I felt my chest open up and I felt like this physical vibration, right? I was like, oh, God's real, right? I can't tell you what he is. I still can't tell you what he is, but God is real. And that led me on my journey. So I think we're talking about the non believer. Let's just point out God's real. God loves you and through his son, you know, all things are forgiven. Doesn't mean you can still up, you know, but we will.
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Top Lobster
Amen. You know what I heard amen might be mean something else, like some Amon, whatever. But this is what I'm, this is what I'm using it as. So that, that's my intention. But I agree, man, I agree and I think this is a great episode. We've. We got to have you back on probably soon because I feel it wasn't fair to kind of like rush you through.
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Ben
Oh, it's all good.
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Top Lobster
No, I think, I think the audience is gonna like this episode as well. So, yeah, we'll. We'll set something up, have you back on, tell the people again where they can find you and where they should be following you, where you do do your work and all that.
- [99:24]
Ben
If you're getting this, you guys probably follow you guys on Twitter. I upload all my content onto Twitter now, but I also have an Instagram. You can find me on Bitchute at End of the World News. The podcasts are across all audio platforms. And I just want to say thank you to God and thank you to you guys for having me on this show so we can discuss about salvation, about our creator, and about the Great Commission, because ultimately what it's all about. And you guys are just messengers of God, which is just a awesome thing to see.
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David Lee Corbo
Well, keep it up, man. I've been watching you on. On Twitter, and I'm a big fan of your take on things, which in. In big part was what drove us to have you on. So, you know, keep up what you're doing. It's a weird thing right now. We're in this space where all these sort of conspiracy Christian content creators are rising up and. And getting a voice, and I think it's more important than ever. So we'd love to have you back. And, guys, if you. We pay for a lot of things, right? With our attention, with our money. If you want to support somebody that you actually like that's doing hard work, then go and follow Ben. Go and absorb his work and. And show him some support, because there's plenty of voices out there. May support the other ones.
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Top Lobster
Yeah. All right, we. We gotta go. But until next time, if you're here, double header. We have J. D coming up next. Go check out the Patreon. Don't forget to obey, submit and comply. See you later, guys. Sa.
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David Lee Corbo
Sa.