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Nephilim Death Squad
108: Codex of Curiosities w/ Rye
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Ry Voss
We are being hypnotized by people like this. Newsreaders, politicians, teachers, lecturers. We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people. The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely.
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Top Lobster
Oh yeah, dude, there's some Nephilim shit. It's like we all know what's going.
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Ry Voss
Down, but no one's saying shit.
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David Lee Corbo
What happens to the homeless? The brave take control.
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Ry Voss
This now when no one's talking about it, man, it's not.
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David Lee Corbo
And everybody's just walking around heading the clouds want to wake up to a dead in the grave but it's too late. We need to be ready to raise up. Welcome to the end of day.
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Ry Voss
Everybody is slave. Only some are aware that the government.
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David Lee Corbo
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad. I am David Lee Corbo, AKA the Raven, that is Top lobster, the father of disinformation. Before we get into today's guest, a quick announcement. This will only be a 30 minute preview for editing purposes, audio and whatnot. We will be going live exclusively to patreon.com backslash Nephilim Death Squad somewhere around the half an hour mark. If you want to continue watching along, enjoying an ad free viewing experience, you can do so over at Patreon. Otherwise, just give it a couple of days and the episode will drop in its entirety for free. Joining us today is Ry Voss. Ry, if you will, for the audience who might not be familiar with you, let them know where they can find your work and what it is that you focus on.
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Ry Voss
All right. Yeah, guys, you know, thanks for having me on. Where can you find my work? Well, YouTube right there. There we go. Codex of Curiosities. YouTube, Spotify, Apple Rumble as well. The stuff that I focus on is pretty much just everything, whether it be cryptids, UFOs, paranormal, time glitches, you know, our, our real history, not this fabricated that they try to ram down our throats or try to, you know, get us to believe. Yeah. On Instagram, Facebook groups, I'm. I'm becoming more active on Instagram. I'm finding that's a better place to be. But, you know, I do have a lot of. A lot of my viewers on Facebook, so I stay on there as well. That is about it. And then, you know, I just tackle. I try to jump into a little bit of everything. And lately actually it's been seeming. It's funny, as Nephilim seems to be coming up, you Know, I had Gary Wayne on and Paul Stobbs as well, and we're going into, we're going deep into those and I, I, I just let the, the show, you know, find its own course sometimes. I enjoy, I enjoy just about everything.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, this Gary, your Gary wayne episode crushed, dude. 40, 000 views. We had him on as well. Didn't do as well. Maybe we didn't ask him the right questions.
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Ry Voss
Yeah, that was my first episode with him and you know, I had him on again and it, it didn't do nowhere near as good as that one. But yeah, Gary Wayne is, you know, we'll hit it out of the park for you.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, Gary's a great guy. I heard you say Paul Stobbs too. We just talked to Paul Stobbs. We're kind of in the middle of a lot of things that, you know, you said that the Neph have suddenly become a topic of conversation right. Within this community in a big way over the last year. And, you know, it's becoming even more significant because what's very clear is we're rolling towards like some sort of a disclosure or something like that. And so all these topics have, have really gained some legitimacy in the conversation where they used to be fringe. They used to be fringe talking about cryptids, they used to be fringe talking about UFOs, entities, you know, things of that nature. And I almost feel as though there's been a dial up over the last few years to the point where what was a fringe underbelly conversation is now bubbling to the top in a way that, well, people don't really know what to do with it. And I guess they're, they're looking to people like, like you or us or Gary Wayne, not to mention us in the same breath like that. But you know what I mean, it's, there's only some people that have been on the outsides talking about this thing and I guess now it's kind of our time. It is.
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Ry Voss
And I, I find that was a little bit of jaded in the sense that, you know, when people start mentioning the Bible, you know, everybody wants to throw that away, you know, throw it in the garbage. Even, even like, you know, evangelists and everything else like that, you know, they just want to stick to parts of the Bible. But when you start, you know, going into it, you find in that it is a legitimate history book. And if you start looking at it actually as a history book, not just as a religious book, but as a history book, then you start uncovering a lot more Truths. And, and I do find that some people get turned off when they start hear you talking about religion. But it's, it's history. This is the type of history that we need to look into. And when you start piecing it together, you start realizing that there's so much truth to it that you, you can't look away from it. You know, you can't just toss it away because, oh, you know, you guys are talking about Jesus stuff or you're talking about this. Nah, nah, nah, man. There is some good, good stuff in there, you know, and it's, and it's, and it's disturbing as well. And, you know, it's, it's got me to circle back. You know, I used to be. I was born and raised Catholic. And then I like most, I think, a lot of really, you know, inquisitive minds. I turned away from the, from the religion, I turned away from the church. I went the New Age route. And unlike a lot of people who get stuck in that quagmire, the New Age, I moved away from that as well. And I. Circling, you know, circle back to the, to the Bible and going, starting to look further and deeper into it. And of course, you know, having people on like Gary Wayne, who really go into the nuts and bolts of it and really start dissecting it for what it truly is, it's. It's fascinating.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, I, I did a very similar thing where I sort of. How do I put this? I've said it before. I've been. Always been into conspiracies and the Bible has always been there as something that I've considered. I've never written it off and I've never been atheist. I would say that I was agnostic for a time. Just meaning. I don't know, I don't have the information, but I am embarrassed that it took me as long as it did to finally give the Bible its due.
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Ry Voss
Yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
And, you know, as somebody who, within the conspiracy community, we like to think that we're keen to information that the general public's not privy to. And it's just, there's a, There's a bit of poetry there. It's. It's romantic. The idea that this thing that everyone has access to holds a tremendous amount of truth, but instead of just entertaining it, I went sleuthing through all these other alleyways right when it comes to like New Age. Like, I never practiced it, but I learned what they believe, you know, these gnostic ideas, delving into the occult because I found that it was important to know if there is an enemy, what the enemy's up to. And then all of it just brings you back to a book that is readily available for every single person in America. And the most purchased book in the world, if I'm not mistaken. Right. The Bible is the number one printed book in the world. Everybody has this thing and it has all these answers, but embarrassingly, I didn't come to it until I was a 30 year old man. It's, it's strange how that sort of thing plays out.
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Ry Voss
Yeah, it, I find it interesting, yeah, when you start approaching it from a different perspective and not just like, oh, I need to believe this, but I'm not really going to look into it. You know, I just believe the words that I'm being told. Which just reminds me so much of watching the tv, you know, watch some news and it's like, okay, I'm just going to believe what you, what you're telling me and not take my own accountability to look into it myself, that that's what's kind of happening. And so it's, you know, now that I'm having this inquisitive mind, you know, like conspiracy, like you said, conspiracy minded. I, I would say I dabbled in conspiracies for quite a while and I never really maybe took them as serious as I should, you know, and, and that leads us, you know, to a major event that happened to my family where I, I took things lightly, which was vaccines, you know, and that's a faux pas. You know, that's a subject that not many people want to get into until, you know, it almost takes the life of one of your family members and then you actually are forced, and even then I, I, I was like kicking and screaming against it in a way. You know, it's, it's, you know, I was kicking and screaming where my wife jumped in full, you know, into the deep end of it. And then I, I slowly came along. But, but back to, back to the Bible thing though. Yeah, it's, it's a really fascinating read when you start breaking it down and seeing it for what it is, you know, you start realizing that holy crap, you know, like this really starts to explain our history. Then I, I often wonder how many times has this history actually repeated itself? You know, are we on the third, third run here or is this the fourth run? What is this? You know, has the Rapture already happened? You know, when we're talking about like the mud floods and you know, the orphan trains when, when there was a lot of people that Were just disappeared and gone. Where did they go? Was that a form of a rapture? And then we're just starting over again. I feel. I feel that we started over at least four times. At least four times. And, you know, every time we kind of go back to this. You know, we go back to our ingenuity, like our basic mechanical ingenuity to try to create things. But we. We lose all this technical, technological advancements. You know, when you. When you go back to. To the pyramids, into the Egypt before the Egyptians actually, and you know, to the Atlanteans, we. They had some. But then that starts tying in with the Watchers as well. Like, it's. It's so many interconnected, you know, strings. You know, like, we have all these red strings here in this conspiracy theories and how many things are actually connected. It's. It's ridiculous. It is. And like, you start putting people. People like to stay in camps. You know, I'm. Oh, I only look into the 911. I only look into Sandy Hook. I only look into how the pyramids are only looking to Bermuda Triangle. But when you start to realize the. The interconnectivity, them all, it's. It's far greater. You know, you got to step back from this. Like, I. I had Vicki Joy Anderson on, and she was talking about, you know, sleep paralysis, and. But she was saying that it's all connected. She's like, we all have a little piece of the puzzle, you know, like my sleep paralysis and these demons visiting us, or then they got the UFOs over here, or then you got Bigfoot over here. But it's all connected. When you start looking. We all had this little piece of this puzzle. We think it's a complete piece, but no, it's part of the big, bigger picture of everything. And that's one of the reasons why I'm doing my show is. Is for my own education. You know, I. I want to help other people out and. And give them, you know, a platform to. To see these things happening and unfolding. But it's also, for me, you know, I'm just. I don't want to say I'm clueless, but I. I know my wisdom is. Is that much that I know that I don't know anything. And it's kind of like I need to start investigating this more. I need to start Lear. And what. What not better way than to learn it from the sources like Gary Wayne or people who have these experiences themselves, and then you can start piecing it together. And of course, My show is also for these people who've had these experiences where they can come on and not feel ostracized. They can feel that, oh yeah, you know, like Joe there had this same experience. Well, let's start putting them together and let's start, you know, comparing notes instead of keeping this all separate. I think that's really, really important. And I kind of went off on a tangent, but.
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Top Lobster
No, that's, that's what we've been doing with our show as well. I mean, it started off, I guess we were curious about this whole Nephilim, the nq, the nephilim question, because it seems to encircle just about everything and then obviously it leads into almost every other conspiracy. But what we've been doing lately is it's like a spin off called NDS Chronicles where we read, you know, listener emails where they tell us about their supernatural experiences or something, whatever like that, something like that. And we're just connecting threads of what these people have been going through. And one of the threads that are kind of interesting, that is a, it's a. Has like a more cultural connotation these days is the idea of K2. Everyone's doing spice. Our Spice Boys, these guys that do spice. Then they see demons and it's just like almost every story we get now begins with like. So anyway, I was smoking spice and the next 10 years of my life were ruined. And we're like, huh, that's. It's really interesting how, how that connects all together because it's a. It's like a scientific compound again. Now, now we're leading into not just this spiritual aspect, but we can go directly into science. This scientist, I think John W. I forget his name.
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David Lee Corbo
Hoffman or Huffman.
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Top Lobster
Huffman, yeah. He creates a compound, every derivative of this compound because they, they deem it illegal and then they create another one. It's like jhw018. Then they go jhw0119020 and they just continue to form this strain of K2. And the side effects are basically the same, but it seems like a MK Ultra experiment on people.
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Ry Voss
I was just thinking the exact same thing, you know, like, it's. It's this combination of, of compounds that they use. And that's what I think the pharmaceutical is doing as well. They are doing a MK Ultra experiment, you know, on these depression drugs, these anxiety drugs and. Yeah, yeah, it's this massive scale and, you know, there's triggers that they are inducing. And I'm not saying all of these shootings or all these things that are happening are, are legit. But to one point, there is a legit legitimacy to it that these people are committing these acts. I think it's set up like they're kind of like being guided, kind of like it's amazed, but yet it's not. This is the direction we need you to follow. And they kind of set these breadcrumbs out and these people are just following them unbeknownst to their own cognitive, you know, resonance. They're just, I'm just going to go and do this. I don't know why I have this gun. I don't know why I'm doing this, but I'm do. I'm taking it to a certain point. And then, like, nothing. And then they, sometimes they, they come to their senses after and they have no idea what has just happened. It's. It. It's almost a form. Like MK Ultra is almost a form of possession, of demon possession.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, the, the, the way that I feel is almost as if they have a, a constant pool of potential actors to pull from. And I don't mean actors in the sense of like, these people are behaving in a fictional way. I mean actors in the sense of if you inundate the public with SSRIs, surely there will be adverse reactions within a small percentage of that, you know, population. And depending on the nature of the reactions, you might then have a candidate for something like that. No, I won't. I'm not going to mention them this time. But you might have a candidate for maybe a false flag or something like that that you wanted to commit. Now, does that mean that people don't die? I mean, we did an episode recently on Sandy Hook. That's a whole other story. But we certainly have no shortage of school shootings and horrifying moments like that to draw from. And if people die, does that then mean that this was not an orchestrated event by an intelligence agency? It's like when you look at Manson, Manson was an intelligence asset, but not in the strictest sense. Right. It was like a guy who they watched and nudged, but otherwise were pretty hands off.
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Ry Voss
And.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, they did. I think he was part of these MK Ultra psychedelic experiments. So I think at some point he was probably in federal buildings actually being experimented on, but afterwards they let him out. It's the same way that I look at Jacob Chansley.
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Ry Voss
Right.
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David Lee Corbo
Of the January 6th situation. Now. Now he is former guest. What's that? Yeah, he was a previous guest of the show. Highly skeptical of him. And the way I Look at him is there are degrees to being an asset. You could be on payroll, and that's, you know, one level. But then there are other people who they see as useful idiots, in a sense. And so when you have Jacob Chansley, you have him at January 6th, he's wearing this bull hat or this, you know, these horns. His face is painted like an American flag. He's got Viking tattoos, and he's, you know, shirtless or whatever he's creating. I believe that was an organic moment. I believe he showed up dressed like that. I believe he's, you know, who knows? Maybe they've had their finger on him since, like, the Gates program or something like that when he was a kid. But when you talk to Jacob, he's.
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Top Lobster
Also like a shaman that's been experimenting with different psychedelics for a long time. So now we have this chemical aspect of this story.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah. So it's fitting. So what I'm wondering is, have they gotten to the point where they no longer need to have you in a lab, in a federal building, dosing you like they did with the johns that they took from the whorehouses back in the day? Maybe now, because psychedelic culture is so permeated, Western culture, which, by the way, was a, an operation that was hijacked by the intelligence agencies, now it's no longer happening in a, in a way that you need agents to execute it. Now it's just happening recreationally in people's homes. And so you might have the same effects that you otherwise would have had in the lab, but you now have a candidate that you don't even really have to have any contact with. And when does he become an asset? Where's the asset part come in? Well, you just don't lock him up. You allow this guy to keep making the rounds, doing podcasts, making media appearances, because he makes January 6th look insane. Because he's insane. And so, you know, I think there's just levels to it. And I think a lot of these school shooters are probably a very similar thing, where they're watching them, they're monitoring them, but from a distance, they have very little contact with them. They've successfully integrated SSRIs into our culture. It's now just a fundamental part of living that, you know, one out of every. How many people are on some form of ssri? So that part's done. Now you have free range feds, essentially. And I think that that's what a lot of these, these shooters are.
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Ry Voss
I, I, I totally agree. You know, the only thing that I'm thinking Like the piece of the puzzle is how do they, you know, what, what sort of media are they using to induce these triggers, you know, to get them activated of sorts. Like, you know, is it, is it Netflix? Is it a certain video game that they're in? In, you know, it, it all depends, you know, and, and possibly, you know, you know, the. I, I forget his name. The January 6 shaman, what was it?
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Top Lobster
Jacob Chancellor?
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Ry Voss
Yeah, Jacob there. He, you know, his was more of a. If he is experimenting with these natural, we'll say these natural drugs, perhaps it was more of an organic one. And you know, they can, those ones they can't really control as much, and it's just kind of like this wild, wild card. But perhaps, you know, the ones where they have these, these pharmaceuticals that they have these two, these kids on, you know, those ones, they kind of know what kind of outcome that they can derive. You know, it's like, okay, if, if we push this video game, if we push this, this show, you know, then perhaps we can induce these types of triggers and, and then from there, then we just direct them accordingly with these breadcrumbs. What was a. Where was I going with this? I. One thing I would love to see is if we take all these mass shooters and we actually break down what drugs they were on, what SSRIs, you know, were being used. But that is kind of like hush, hush. We don't talk about, about that. You know, it's. Let's look at these bigger things. You know, oh, oh, he watched this show or, or he, he had a lot of access to guns, or, or he was a troubled child. Well, let, let's go further into that. You know, and, and, and the, the gate program is something that's, I find really interesting as well. I, I feel I was approached by. I don't know what version of that was in Canada, but I had a, I was approached multiple times doing, doing certain tests when I was in elementary school. You know, there's a lot of incidents where, where I had these, these people coming to me and doing this, but I was never allowed to go further than that. My parents never allowed that. But it was interesting, you know.
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David Lee Corbo
Right. I think it starts to beg a larger question if back in the day they had similar programs, but they were much more focused in their aim. Meaning, you know, you would take someone into a building and you would experiment on them, whatever, you'd release them back into the public. If that's truly how they used to do it. Now we have a pretty good grasp on the Idea that there are many different ways to influence a human being, Frequencies being one of them. Right. Obviously the media that you're taking in, you have this situation where you have voice to skull technology. I saw any. I think we actually got an email top from somebody saying that that was happening to them. But. But either way, voice to skull technology is a thing. They can hit you with a frequency and speak in your own head. It drives people insane. So so many of these things can happen at a distance. If SSRIs truly do play a role in it, well, what then? When the drinking water has traces of pharmaceuticals in it? You know what I'm saying? So it's like they're spraying things in the sky. These chemicals are affecting you. These frequencies that they're emitting are affecting you. I'm not one to really go down the 5G thing because I just haven't looked into it. It doesn't interest me that much. But let's entertain that idea that these 5G things are emitting frequencies that are doing something to you. So you have. Even if you're not on pharmaceuticals, well, they're in your drinking water. Even if you're not entertaining these different shows that might have themes that alter you psychologically while you're still being bombarded with frequencies from 5G panels and all these other things, I just think that they've gotten to the point where the way they can manipulate a person is multifaceted. It's a conglomeration of different takes or different angles that they come at you from. And I think that it's no longer isolated to individuals. I think to some degree, or rather the only question is to what degree are you yourself a candidate just because you're being subjected to all of these, you know, previously mentioned elements. So I think they've really refined that machine. And I think that at any given chance, if you are a member of the population who is susceptible to those sorts of things, you are currently being bombarded by them, and you yourself might end up being an eligible candidate.
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Ry Voss
I. I could not agree more with you on that.
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Top Lobster
We just did an episode with Black Black Labs, who turns out is not a fed, probably, but we were talking about MK Ultra Zombies. That's the name of the episode and some of the chemicals that we were talking about. Oh, you saw it?
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Ry Voss
Yeah, yeah.
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Top Lobster
Okay.
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Ry Voss
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
Like psilocybin, mescaline, lsd, scopolamine, graphene oxide. Which really starts to raised some flags about Tim Cast and what's his name? Ian. Ian Crossland. He was a big graphene Oxide, like, proponent for a long time, for whatever reason. Like, what the hell is that?
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David Lee Corbo
I love that. Can we just start calling Ian Crossland a fed?
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Top Lobster
Yes.
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David Lee Corbo
Even if he's not a fed. I just want to do that.
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Top Lobster
That's fine. We'll call him a fed. Neurotoxins, conotoxins, things like this that are making people. He's a fat. They're making people highly suggestible to different things. And this is not even. This isn't even in the array of drugs that. Well, some of them are, but there. There are so many more where you would put in the category of MK Ultra. So the sophistication, the level of sophistication that they have achieved at mind control is baffling. Like, we don't even understand it. They shut down the program because they were like, we figured it out.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. They shut the program down because they're like, all right, it works on isolated individuals, but now we have a program that'll work on the. The population at large. So, yeah, we'll end that program and start a new one where we're aiming at everybody.
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Ry Voss
Yeah, I. I find that ridiculous. It's like, yeah, hey, everybody, look, we closed the doors. We're not doing this anymore. You know, like MK Ultra, they. They pretty much said that. That, okay, we're done, you know. You gotta be kidding me. You know, same thing with Operation Mockingbird as well. Oh, yeah. You know, they never. I don't think they really actually ever said they. They quit that, you know, because they've gotten so good at that. So good at that.
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David Lee Corbo
And that. You know what that reminds me of, right, too. It's like we're talking about all these elements, frequencies and. And pharmaceuticals and things like that. But there is. Human beings are susceptible to hypnosis. Right. That wouldn't be a thing if it didn't work, this hijacking of our own psychology by way of, I guess, words, gestures and. And moving you into an altered state outside of the influence of drugs.
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Ry Voss
Yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
So then you have to wonder to what extent you're talking about Mockingbird Media. It's a form of hypnosis. To hear the same catchphrase, the same narrative, the same idea repeated ad nauseam over and over and over again. Some Americans, boomers in particular, are still hooked up to legacy media like it's a trough, and they're being bombarded with that. So, so, so these people, I mean, think about that. You know, boomers get a lot of. But let's just think about that for a second. They're at the age where they are, in fact, inundated with pharmaceuticals. They're also at the age where they've had a lifetime of psychological programming via the Mockingbird media. I mean, honestly, it's. It's. It's amazing that. That boomers aren't school shooters because they're just. They are the major candidate for the experiment. It feels like just because they've been subjected to it for so long, they've been chugging fluoride and water for their entire lives. They've been, you know, they are now on an array of pharmaceuticals because our medical apparatus here in the States tells you that when you hit a certain age, you know, 50 years old, you've got about seven different pills that you have to take daily. You know, and I just feel like it's. Those folks are. Are the most. I feel like millennials, you know, we managed to, if. If we had our wits about us, detach in as many ways as possible. I don't really watch television. I don't drink my sink water. I'm not on any medications or anything like that. And I do think that that's a rarity in these days, especially the last one, not being on any medications.
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Ry Voss
I. I think that is huge. Huge. You know, like, when we talk about the boomers, I think they're more of like the drill sergeants, you know, that stay and train the troops. They don't go into actual battle and do that. They're the ones that are kind of like, they've been inundated with all this media where it's, you know, that they saw JFK get, You know, they saw people get shot live on tv, and so they're glued to it. This is the truth. This is. This is what we're, you know, what we're being fed. And I will always believe it. You know, like, when I go to my parents place, the News is on 24, 7, 365. And it like. And I'm like, why do you have this on? Well, we just like to have it on for the background noise. I'm like, that's crazy. That's. That's even worse. And I'm like, you know, like, during COVID I. I would go there and I would talk sense into them, and they would be like, okay, yeah, yeah, that. That makes sense. And then I would leave, you know, in a week, week, two weeks later, they were just back into this, you know, and, yeah, it was. And when I. When I moved to Mexico. I moved to Mexico during the height of everything. It was like 20, 21. My. My parents phoned me. Well, my dad phoned me to kind of brag to me, like, we had gone. And it was as if, like, they lost that. That anchor of. Of normalcy. And he phoned to brag to me that he took the. They took the vaccine. Now it's like, yeah, we. We got this, and we're fine. We're fine. And I'm like, you got out right.
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Top Lobster
Before they made it mandatory.
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Ry Voss
It was. It was kind of mandatory, but yet it wasn't, like, compelled.
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David Lee Corbo
Strongly compelled, yes.
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Ry Voss
Like, we weren't. We weren't allowed to go into restaurants or anything like that anymore without showing your. Your passport. You know, let's see our documents. We want to see the documents. And so. And that was one of the reasons why my parents said, well, we want to go to restaurants. I'm like, are you kidding me? You just sold your soul for that?
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David Lee Corbo
That's almost not. You know what's worse than that, though, is the people that were like, I did it for the free beer. I did it for the free burger. I did it for the free donuts.
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Top Lobster
I was in New York City when this happened, so very similar to what you went through in California. I was like, let's see the. Let's see your papers. Like, papers, please. I. I was actually working for the MTA during the height of this. And I remember going to work. It was early in the morning, and I was driving a truck, but I'm driving to work, I get pulled over by the cops, and they're like, are you essential? You know, flashlight, Swear to God. And I had to show them. I was like, I guess I show them my MTA badge. And they were like, move along, sir. There's nobody on the streets. What the. That's.
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David Lee Corbo
That's dystopian, right? That feels like all of the 1984 fears that you had about the future being in this prison state.
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Ry Voss
Yeah, it. It's exactly it. You know, and I. I was out there protesting. I was out there doing my part, you know, and I was part of a underground group that, you know, even we weren't allowed to meet. But, hell, yeah, we were still meeting. You know, we'd park. We'd park a ways away from the. A certain meeting house. We'd organize a meeting house, and we all get together and, you know, have little. I'm not saying, like, we're being stupid and having stupid party stuff like that. We're just getting together and holding space, you know, like having a community and being like, let's stay sane here. Let's. Let's keep this together. And. But yeah, I was out protest, pro protesting at the parliaments, you know, and, you know, with these groups and, you know, doing, doing my part. But I finally hit a part, a point where my, my anxiety was just getting a hold of me and you know, like having these confrontations almost regularly in the, in the shopping centers with, with me not wearing my mask, you know, just being confronted by people, though I was confronted by some people who were like, thank you. You know, and the one guy like, took off his mask and he's like, you know, thank you for showing, you know, thank you for being strong. And. And I'm like, dude, I'm barely holding on by a thread here, you know, like, this, this constantly being bombarded, it takes its toll on you. And I'm not saying that like, I'm the greatest. No, I, I was, I was having. My wife was strong. I was, you know, she was my, my pillar of strength, you know, and I was like, okay, you know, I'd psych myself up going into the store, you know, no mask. And people would confront, you know, like, I'm like, no, no, I'm. I, I got a medical condition where I need to breathe, you know, proper oxygen.
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David Lee Corbo
So this is great here. Kate0498 says meanwhile, covet decision makers were having orgies. And it's like, okay, even besides the orgies, everybody can remember where they were having parties. They were having parties. The very same people that were telling you and that felt very much like, like right on its face, an insult, right? Rules for the. Not for me.
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Ry Voss
And people still were following that crap. Like, yeah, our, you know, like, being in Canada, we have, we have premieres, we don't have governors. Our premiere was having a party on a rooftop of a high rise building. And people got, you know, got it on telescopic cameras. You know, they were taking pictures of it. And they post, they blasted that all over the news. And it's like, that's. People are like, like they're upset that he's doing this. They weren't upset that they were still being subjected to, you know, following those rules. They're upset like, well, you broke the rule, you know, you should be following this rule. Well, he's the one who knows. Why do you think he's having these, these events? Like, come on, people, you need to, you need to open your eyes, you know, and, and all I see is I, I can See me, you know, on, on social media, we're getting bombarded about these new, you know, Nora virus and bird flu and H5N1 or whatever the hell that is. I'm, I'm like, like, come on, like, come on people, wake up and see that and let's. This propaganda is, is, is deafening. It's killing everybody. You know, it's the propaganda, more or less, and then seeing the people who are still following it that just want to obey these rules. They just love it. And I also think part of it was that they, some people were given this power over top of others that they would not have like, like hostess of restaurants or greeters at Walmart. You know, they have now been elevated to this, you know, security force that I am now. You now have to respect me.
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David Lee Corbo
And it became that experiment. What was that experiment where they had one group was the, the prisoners and the other group was the security guards. I think they even switched roles at some point. But you quickly saw how if you give the average person power, they will wield it poorly. And you know, on the topic of propaganda, you were saying before that your parents always have the news running in the background and they just use it for the background noise. And what is striking about that is imagine being somebody who was running the old school MK Ultra program like Clockwork Orange where they had to peel your eyes open and force you to watch the propaganda.
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Ry Voss
Yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
Now people are doing it to themselves. They're inundated constantly. Their own narrator is becoming the voice of the guy that's on the television because he's constantly running in the background. I find that incredible. It's like there was probably a time where these guys are in the lab doing this to people and somebody goes, we need to do this en masse. And some, some other scientists or, or you know, Fed goes, no, we could never get them to do this. How would we ever get them to do this en masse? We could never. We don't have enough eyeball opening machines attached to chairs in order to do this on mass. And it's like, well, what if they did it to themselves? And that's so much of, of what's happening now is we are doing these things to ourselves. Right. I think Owen Benjamin does a great job. We're actually going to talk to him later on today. But so many people are worried about this, the jq, the Jew question. And look, sure, certainly there's a lot of meat there. But what Owen Benjamin says is he made a funny meme the other day. It says There is no Jew. There is only your own weakness. And when you couple that notion that it's not really about this force that's coming in and manipulating you, but it's more so about your own consent to take part in these things, and you couple that with the fact that people have the news running in the background for background noise, that's a prime example of you just doing it to yourself. It's like, if you haven't realized the media is the propaganda machine yet, I don't know what to tell you, but it's a whole other step to go. You know what? There's something soothing about the propaganda machine. I think while I cook dinner, I'm gonna let it run in the background because it's nice. It's comforting. That is a wild decision. And somebody. Somebody. Whoever came up with the MK Ultra program, I'm sure they're dead. Are. They're rolling in their graves. They're laughing. That we would ever choose to be propagandized, man.
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Top Lobster
It's a. There's a lot of power in the word no. Something that I learned, I guess, maybe during COVID maybe a little bit after. Some of your haters here have a good question. Why are you wearing sunglasses? I don't know.
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Ry Voss
I asked.
- [35:38]
Top Lobster
Yes. There you go. He's retarded.
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Ry Voss
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
There's a lot of power in the word no. Just tell me. It's funny, because now I'm getting these memories back to the COVID times, the COVID era, and I kind of always went along to get along, but this was the last straw, and it kind of. It really shook me to my foundation. And, you know, people would just. They would ask me. I forget what they'd asked me to do. Like, where are your masks? I was the first one to wear a mask because I wasn't sure. I was like, maybe the mask would help. That was before anyone was doing any of this stuff. And then it turns out I was like, oh, this doesn't seem to work. I took, like. The day I took it off was the day they made it mandatory. And they were like, put your mask on. Put your mask on. And I just looked at him, I said, no. And then they go like, shit. He said, no. Like, what do I do now? And I'm like, I don't know. I don't. This is my first time trying it too. And this is just what I kept doing to people. They were like, you have to. You have to be vaccinated. And I was just like, nah. No. Well, no, that.
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David Lee Corbo
That Is the thing that was strange is we were inundated with the fear campaign. We were guilted. Well, what about the old folks? What about this? What about that? It's not about you, it's about spreading.
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Top Lobster
Other people, you're saying.
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David Lee Corbo
And so they, they created this urgency and they created a dynamic that lent itself to some people deciding that they were enforcers. Right. Like we talked about before, the hostess, the this, the that. But they never really told you what to do if somebody didn't obey the rules. Yeah, I think that was funny. That was actually funny because we closed the show. What's that?
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Top Lobster
Close the show with a obey, submit, comply. Something I've been saying for a long time now. It's just a. If you do it, I think you're retarded. But I like to tell you that just as a keep you on your toes, don't forget to obey, submit and comply. But yeah, when you don't obey, submit and comply, these people look at you baffled and all you have to do is say no. And then they're like, damn. Like my, my, my training didn't prepare me for this. Like I don't know how to deal with this person. I keep telling him to do XYZ and he keeps telling me to myself, that's it.
- [37:37]
David Lee Corbo
Right? Step one, shame them for not obeying step two. There was no step two. So what that ended up creating was all those scenarios up spirit figures. Unbelievable. What that ended up creating was that scenario where people are just screaming each other in, in the line at Best Buy about not wearing a mask and the Best Buy cashier doesn't know what to do. They're not telling you to leave, they're just bringing up your products. They're confused. So you're getting publicly shamed now there's two people arguing and nobody knows what to do because we were never given what to do because it wasn't a law. It was like a strong recommendation. But we might let me. You might lose your job. But it was a strong recommendation. It was a really weird. And honestly, in, in hindsight, I mean it was terrible, but it was, it gave birth to so much madness that if you didn't give in to the fear. It was incredibly entertaining. I mean I watch dudes shop in Walmart with gallon water jugs cut open and stuck on their face.
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Top Lobster
Seen it. Yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
I've seen dudes with, with bags on their heads. I've seen old, old, really old people, like really old people, 90 year old women who are just like trying to go and they're like, I guess I'll just put this on my face. That's a stop right bag. And you know, is it. Nobody knew what to do. It just created. It was a great example of how with the littlest nudge, you can flick us straight into chaos. Straight into chaos. We're gonna start ratting on each other, we're gonna start wearing bags on our face. We're gonna start screaming at each other. It's. It was incredible.
- [39:05]
Top Lobster
It's a beautiful thing, though, because if you're like, I. I guess I saw it immediately and. And we did too. And like, when I said no, I saw the reaction to people and they're like, well, what the hell do we do now? And I realized that it's like, oh, we don't have to go, like, left or right. Like, I can do something. This is like a. If this is a video game, I have now broken the rules. And I went through a wall that I wasn't supposed to go through, and I can now move freely. So I'm like, wait a second, I can do this and do that. And then I just started doing that for the last five, six years or so. And here we are. I. I was able to, by breaking those rules, I was able to get my family out of New York City into a better state onto, like, you know, where I'm at now. And it's just kind of amazing. It's amazing that more people haven't figured it out yet because I'm not like a special person. I'm sort of mediocre, in my opinion. And it's just like all you had to do was say no. Say no, and then move in a different direction. And really, people can't stop you.
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David Lee Corbo
Before you go on, I just want to make everybody aware because we are at the 40 minute mark. Oh, yeah, we gave you people 10 extra minutes. Despicable. If you want to continue watching along, we are going live exclusively to patreon.com backslash Nephilim Death Squad. We have to do some editing on audio, on ads, and the entire episode will release for free in a matter of days. But if you want to enjoy an ad free viewing experience and continue watching along and engaging in the chat, you can do so over@patreon.com backslash nephilim death squad. Otherwise, we'll see you in a couple of days. Okay? Right, take it away. I didn't mean to interrupt you there, and I do have some questions to. To pull us in a different direction, but I'll let you finish.
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Ry Voss
Yeah. Yeah, no worries. No worries. Yeah, like this conditioning that it created like this. And you know, when they created these, like these old folks home, they created these kill boxes where they knew that, you know, I don't care what virus or what is going on in there. And if you believe in viruses or not, but, you know, they were gonna make sure people were gonna die in those areas, and then this would just create this wave of momentum of like, you're killing grandma. You know, I heard that so many times. And it's like, no, actually, you are, you know, like you and your, Your garbage bag hugging grandma kind of is. Is absolutely ridiculous. And when you said you, you know, people walking with bags on their head, I. I literally saw a guy outside walking by himself in front of my house with a clear plastic bag over his head like this. And I could not believe it. I ran and I, I got a picture. It's not a clear picture, but I had to take a picture. I was just like, like the insanity of people believing that they are protecting themselves from this is ridiculous. If they only knew what truly is in the air that is actually poisoning them. Maybe if we could open their eyes, we could get this wave of chaos, this waves of craziness to actually work for us, you know, and it. But the issue is, and I think you guys have talked about this before, is the perversion of, whether it be, you know, conspiracies or psyops or movements and everything by the CIA is ridiculous, you know, by these, you know, bad actors, so to speak. You know, they take some of these really good movements and they, they pervert them and then they take them beyond where they should be. They take them beyond these, these areas and make them into this ridiculous, laughable movements. But the crazies all follow them and they feel that they don't. Like, like, let's talk about like the, the, you know, gays and whatnot. You know, if people want to be gay, that's fine.
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David Lee Corbo
Talk about the gays.
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Ry Voss
But it, it's gotten so ridiculous now that it is. It's gotten to the point where it is just terrible.
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Top Lobster
Sorry, let's talk about the gays for a second.
- [42:46]
Ry Voss
But okay, enough of that, enough of that. If we, if we gotta head off into, into the other section, let's do that.
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David Lee Corbo
No, no. Well, well, I mean, it is interesting too, because that portion of the population that tends to go crazy, these are the same people that they're, you know, they're masking up, they're shaming you for not doing so. But I Would argue that of those people a significant percentage of them are eating kind of the standard American diet. They're eating trash, they're easing, eating poisonous food. They have no idea that they're spraying things overhead. They have no idea that they're drinking water is, is, you know, dangerous. They really are not in tune with health and nutrition to any degree whatsoever. There is a small percentage of the population that was like you have gym goers. Yeah.
- [43:31]
Ry Voss
But there's the flip side to that where there's the people who check every single ingredient. Every single ingredient. Yeah. You know, but then they, they've bought hook, line and seeker into this, into this. Like I need to be healthy. I'm, I'm terrified for my health. So I will take whatever you give to me and instead of looking into the ingredients of what they're injecting into them, give it to me, give it to me. You know, that kind of as well it, I agree there's the both sides of that. There's the ones who don't give a crap about their health but they're, you know, but yeah, yeah, well I, look.
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David Lee Corbo
I do try to occasionally remember to add this caveat and so I'll do it here now. We as a people over the past four years, but more so generations now have been subjected to the most sophisticated propaganda machine in the history of the world. The most expensive one, the most well oiled. We are talking about a propaganda machine that's been developed off of the back of research like MK Ultra. We're at the precipice, we're at the, the peak, the, the sort of, the, the, the tip of the spear when it comes to, I, I would argue there's never been one as effective as the one that we're subjected to today. So in that way I get it. There is going to be a considerable percentage of the population that will always be subjectible to this sort of. And if they are porous and if they are, you know, they have this proclivity to follow the leader. Well, when the leader is a multi probably trillion dollar industry that's made up of all these institutions, you know, the medical institutions, the, the Hollywood, all these different things, our media, you know, our schools, you're programmed essentially since childhood. So, so for the few of us who actually can pull away from that, it's almost remarkable.
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Top Lobster
Well, let me, and let me ask you really quickly because so you're from Canada and you escaped effectively what the hell is going on with you guys in Canada? Because there's been a lot of Talk. I mean, I don't know if it's, like, jokes or not, but Trump has been saying, like, we should just annex Canada and take it and the Republicans or just people in general, like, hell, yeah, take Canada and Mexico and make one big world government. I was like, first off, biblically sounds like a bad idea, but, yeah, on its face, I was looking at Canada for the last four years, five years, maybe longer, since at least since Trudeau's, you know, his entire tenure.
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Ry Voss
And I'm like, you mean Castro, right?
- [46:02]
Top Lobster
Yes, Castro's son.
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Ry Voss
Yeah, yeah.
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Top Lobster
I'm like, this guy has been. Well, he's been there and voted in unanimously a number of times. So, like, why the would I. No offense to Canadians. Well, I get all offense to Canadians. Why the would I want you in my country? Voted. This country already voted almost like 50. 50 for somebody whose only platform was just abortion. That was it. That's all she ran on. And I'm like, these people shouldn't be even be allowed to vote the next time. Like, it's in. It's insane. It was. It was a clear IQ test. And again, I know that Trump is not whatever, you know, these people make him out to be, but what he's presenting versus what the other person was presented, this is an IQ test. It's like, this or this. What do you want? This or this? And people chose killing babies. That's really what it was. It was like female empowerment killing babies. And I was like, this makes no sense to a country that's clearly spiraling. Here we have Canada continuing to choose this same guy after, like, you know, ruined policy. After ruined policy. Why? What happened there?
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David Lee Corbo
And isn't it funny, too? Because you're presented that top, by the way, like, these are your options, and the acronym is come. It's like, Canada, United States, Mexico. And it's like, that's hilarious.
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Top Lobster
Put it on my face, please.
- [47:20]
David Lee Corbo
Give me the Come. It's just for me.
- [47:22]
Ry Voss
Just throw it in your face.
- [47:23]
David Lee Corbo
Yeah, it's so funny. I. I just. Oftentimes you'll see that right top. That's like the thing where it's like Bernie Madoff with your money or. Or whatever. You know, you insert the name where it's somehow applicable to the situation, and it's hilarious. Come is hilarious. And I. I go, somebody's having a laugh. They have to be.
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Ry Voss
Yeah, it has to be. Yeah. So I need to take responsibility. I did vote for him the very first time. I. I have to take responsibility. And that was because I was. I was living abroad. At that time, the first time I was living in Mexico with my wife and my daughter. My daughter was born here in. Hey, Brad. My wife was. Sorry, my daughter was born here in Mexico. And the existing Prime Minister was putting through a bill that would classify her as a second class citizen in Canada because she was born abroad, even though she would be considered a Canadian citizen. And I was completely against that. So I voted emotionally on that aspect to get, you know, Trudeau with the nice hair in that, that was one of the. Actually he's just not ready, but he's got nice hair. That was one of the conservatives propaganda type commercials they had against him. But, but I made, I made that mistake and I did it, needless to say, you know, every other time I voted against him. But yeah, he, he started off good, you know, of course he legalized marijuana. Everybody's like, yeah, but I think that was more to subdue or to gain, gain votes in that aspect.
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David Lee Corbo
Even, even that. Right. I've, I've looked, I've turned a corner. There you go.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, listen, the first time, the first time you vote for. So like, that's like another thing. Like a lot of people voted for Obama and it's like you didn't know. You don't know what you're gonna get. I'm talking about like after Covid, they voted him in. I'm like, the is wrong with you guys, right?
- [49:14]
David Lee Corbo
And I think that the weed vote really bit us in the ass. I, I look around like, I'm not somebody who's like, don't smoke weed. And I, I smoke myself. I'll go back and forth with it where I won't for a long time, but then I will. But I recognize that weed culture is sort of to our detriment. At least here in the United States, it's become to our detriment. And, and I don't know, it's just something that we beat the door down on and we sort of evangelized about it, right? It was like this. We were saying, it's going to cure everything. It's, what about the hemp industry? What about the oil? It kills cancer cells, all these things. We turned it into this like, unbelievable product when literally it's just weed. We've been smoking it forever and we use that to leverage the door open when really it was just because you shouldn't be throwing people in cages for smoking weed. But instead we've seen like, this disproportionate bounce back where like weed culture, I very much feel is to our Our detriment here in the United States and also forming an industry, an illegalized industry around marijuana has created a situation where they are engineering weed to have the, the most outlandish levels of THC and, and virtually no cbd. So the, the anti anxiety relaxing chemical compound has been sacrificed for the psychedelic compound. And I think that even weed has reached a place now where I'm like, you could MK Ultra somebody with that.
- [50:35]
Ry Voss
Yep, I, I totally agree. You know, like, I, I have bought some at the dispensaries in Canada and, and it wasn't good. It wasn't good at all. I was like, I was like this, I, I need to get down from this because this is, this is messed.
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David Lee Corbo
I did the same thing. I lived in Vegas and, and I was really excited to go to a dispensary for the first time and, and it took some time for me to realize, but it was like, oh, I have uncontrollable anxiety every time I smoke. And I've been smoking since I was a kid, and now all of a sudden I'm smoking something different that is making me almost spiral internally. Like, I got to go have a shower and go lay down and, and I don't think it slowed down. That was years ago. I think now, you know, they have super weed. It's all, it's just the craziest shit in the world. So I don't think we're any better for having an industry, and I don't think we're any better for having a culture like a weed culture. I was much happier when it was just like old white dudes. That was weed culture, like Deadheads. That was a much better scenario. People that were, you know, Vietnam vets that like the Grateful Dead. I'll take that weed culture over what we have now.
- [51:37]
Ry Voss
I, I, I agree. Like, I find that people take something and they just take it to extremes. Almost like what I was saying earlier with, with, you know, groups and stuff being just perverted, like, you know, talk like one simple thing. You know, I'm here in Mexico, we're talking spice and hot sauce and, you know, and peppers and stuff like that. Here they use it as flavor, you know. But when I was in Canada, I'm sure in the U.S. it's like, let's see how far we can take this. You know, let's get, you know, let's say get these ghost peppers, let's get these demon peppers. And yeah, you tripping.
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David Lee Corbo
Add scorpion peppers.
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Ry Voss
Yeah, you, you stop enjoying it. But you're just like, yeah, I Did that. Look what I can do. You know, it's almost this level of narcissist, this egotistical kind of thing, and it loses what it used to be. You know, it's great for flavor, but now they're just like, yeah, I can do this, I can do that. Well, you're going to be burning your out, you know, for the next day and a half, you know, and you're almost going to be killing yourself. What? Why? Oh, look at me eat this. World's hottest chip.
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Top Lobster
Why?
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Ry Voss
It's for this clout almost. It's not for the enjoyment of it. Same thing with weed. You know, it's gotten so crazy that you're not really enjoying it anymore. Like, I didn't enjoy it. You know, I used to smoke a little bit. Like, I don't smoke very much anymore, but I used to smoke a little bit. And when I took those, it was inedible, actually. I took some edible chocolate, and I was just like, this is not good.
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David Lee Corbo
This is disturbed.
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Ry Voss
Yeah, I was extremely disturbed. But back to Trudeau, you know, people were so scared. And I think we also had the Dominion voting machines in as well, and I believe that there was something going on with that as well. You know, they were based out of Canada, in Toronto. I believe there's something going on with that as well. Trudeau just technically resigned, which for me is probably the worst thing that could have happened, because then he's just like, oh, you know, I'm gonna leave. There's been in some infighting with the party, and I'm gonna step down. No, I wanted us to kick his ass out. You know, I. I wanted us to send him to the curb, but instead he's, like, took this. This higher road, so to speak. But in that time, he. He's still in control now. He has this full control where he dictates so he doesn't get kicked out. He dictates, you know, like, I'm going to push parliament off further now, and I'm going to wait. I'm not going to back. I'm not going to leave until an actual, you know, party member has been elected and can take this position. Technically, our elections are supposed to be in October. The actual election is supposed to take place in October for the whole country. That's when it's supposed to go again. And we all know that he's not gonna, like, he. He would have lost horribly. You know, the party is trying to, you know, get him so far disconnected from. From their party as is, but they're still going to fail. They're still going to fail big time. And he, he's done some absolutely horrendous things. Like he was just at, over, over the holidays. He was just at a ski hill. And the amount of narcissism he had at the ski hill, like he had his guards pushing everybody away. He would cut in line in front of everybody, like this, this, this level of disconnect from the people is just ridiculous. And now his father prior to that had the same kind of mentality, and people hated him, despised him. Everybody from, I think it was like, from the 70s were just like, trudeau is the worst, you know, and, and now we're seeing it again. It's, it's just history replaying itself over and over again now. And I, I don't know if you know about this, but Trudeau was an accused pedophile. You know, he was a drama teacher before being Prime Minister. You know, his, his credentials was being a drama teacher. There was an incident with a student, and they were all paid, like, everybody in that family was paid off to not talk about this. It was all brushed under the rug except for the, the father of the, of the girl. You know, he was, they were separated, so he wasn't part of the close with ties of the family, but he never took the, the, the payout. So he talked about it, but you never hear anything about that. So you know, that, that tells you, like, what kind of. I don't know, I don't want to call him human being because he's not. He's just this, this thing that he is, is, is just despicable. And so funny though, we, we have.
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David Lee Corbo
This thing right in common then with Canada where it's like, okay, look at Zielinski in, in Ukraine, actor.
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Ry Voss
Yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
Comedy Trudeau, drama teacher, actor, Donald Trump, even the, you know, longtime media figure.
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Ry Voss
You're fired. Yeah.
- [56:01]
David Lee Corbo
And it, it seems, it's funny because if I tell you that at the highest levels, politics is theater and you object, I would have a strong argument to say, like, no, technically speaking, these are all actors at the highest levels, these people are actors, you know, all the aforementioned people. So it's, it's a strange thing that we overlook that and we really do, we really do overlook that. And, and it shows you that politics is a game best played by charismatic pretenders. And I think that's what we have on the world stage right now. How, how right is Mexico in contrast to, to Canada when it comes to the things that you're concerned about, politically.
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Ry Voss
Speaking, politically Speaking, you know, like pri. The, the previous president, he was, his motto was hugs not bullets when dealing with the narcos. And is that real? Real 100 real.
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Top Lobster
That's a guy with like five names, right?
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Ry Voss
They all have. That's one thing you'll know in like the Latin America, they'll have like their name and then possibly a second name, maybe a middle name and then they'll have their, their family name, like their father's family name and then their mother's family name and it's this huge long thing. But yeah, it's, it was, it wasn't really. I would say things were kind of okay in the. Be in the middle, you know, then things have started to escalate again because that's just the way things go. And then the, the new president, Claudia Shambauman or something along that line, she has kind of turned away from that. Hugs not bullets. And she just like sent like a thousand troops to a local municipality that's, or local area that's having a lot of trouble right now. You know, one of their, like for people getting murdered here. It's just, it's crazy. Like where I am at, it's pretty damn safe, you know, but if, when you start heading to the north and to the west, that's when things start to get a little hairy and you know that, that's when the narcos really are running these things. One thing you'll notice is that where things are kind of a little more calm, that's usually where the narcos families live because it's kind of like this truce almost. It's kind of like this is where the families live and nothing's going to happen here. I lived in another area in central Mexico as well, where it was, it was kind of a well known place that this is where the, the families live and nothing, nothing bad ever happened. And you know, like if we pulled out the narcos, Mexico would be in my opinion one of the safest places. The issues that you do have here are, are like robbery. Robbery is a big thing. And, and my guess is because of the poverty that is around here, people. Right, A lot some people steal to, to live.
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David Lee Corbo
Are you talking like breaking and enterings or like purse snatchings? Because I remember one time watching UFC and they were doing an event in Brazil and there was a drone that was capturing the footage of, you know, this big arena and all the hype around the UFC fight and in this very short clip couldn't have been more than like three minutes. You saw Three purse snatchings happen on the ground. And this is from like several stories in the air. So it wasn't the main focus. Somebody later on highlighted that. Yeah, right there in Brazil, right outside of the stadium. They're just ripping purses off ladies arms and running.
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Ry Voss
Oh, that, that I have not seen. But it's the robbery. So like literally the house next door got robbed and their family. Because a lot of times when you family always lives right by you. So it was my, my wife's auntie. They broke in about 6 in the morning, tied her up and stole her phone and her bank cards and you know, got her to transfer a lot of money and then they left my father in law because my, my mother, my father in law's mother was still alive at that time. And they would have to spend the night like every one of the, the child, the children would spend a night with her to make sure she was okay and you know, help her up and stuff like that. She, she ended up passing away at 108. Yeah, yeah. So. But my father in law was in the house too. But that happened upstairs. Like they climbed, they, they climbed in, climbed, Scaled the wall and went in, you know, and it was a lot, there was a lot of robberies that were happening in this area. But I think either they capped, they got caught or, or something else happened to him because it just abruptly stopped. But there's not as many purse snatchings as there is actual robberies. When I was living in Merida, which is actually strangely enough the second safest city in all of the Americas, our house, our neighbor's house next door got broken into. They walked into the person stealing from them and this person's stealing food. Okay. So that kind of gives you an idea of like, of course they're taking other stuff, but they're taking food as well. It kind of tells you how, you know, the situations that these people are in. But, but yeah, so, so these, these narcos, it, it's scary what is happening. You know, I'm trying to remember how many candidates the Mexico elections were coming on. I think it was like 100 and I'm gonna guess like 160 candidates were killed. It is ridiculous because. And, and we're talking, some of them were beheaded as well. Wow, this is. Yeah, it, you're not my candidate. The narcos would probably, you know, and let's kill the candidates. And they, they put a sense of fear and then. Oh, the only one left standing is this one and this one's endorsed by them, so it's, he's gonna get voted in.
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David Lee Corbo
So that's, there's some real concern though, about the federal government or the intelligence agencies integration with the cartel as far as drug smuggling over the southern border goes. Right, because it's, it's a very convenient thing to have the cartel down there. They are more than likely willing to, to work for the right compensation. And if you truly do have a war on drugs that is never ending, it's an actual psychological operation to persecute the average American citizen and lock them in a cage or find them to fund the state. That plays really well with this idea that they would then be allowing the cartel to move drugs across the southern border. Especially considering how porous the southern border is. It's a gateway for a lot of things that I would imagine these intelligence agencies and the federal government claims not to be doing, but then can cast blame on the cartel in the poorest southern border for these things still happening here in the States.
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Ry Voss
Oh, they are easily getting paid off. You know, it is. The cartel has infiltrated the government. That's a no brainer. You know, I, I don't know to what extent you can really, but here's the thing is people know this. You know, this is not like something that's, that's hidden from, from the truth. You know, everybody knows this and it's kind of like a general understanding. But you go into places like the US Or Canada, people deny that. They deny the corruption. You know, really. We know in Mexico, I will say that's one thing I kind of like, okay, they know there's corruption. 100, there's corruption. Like, pretty like the average Joe knows this. You go into Canada and you mention corruption, they're like, oh, no, no, no, no. You know that that doesn't happen here. You're like, you got to be kidding me. You know that there is so much corruption, it's ridiculous. Like, like Trudeau has swept things out of the rug. He's closed investigations that are happening like, and so I, crap, I forget the name of it. Lavern. I, I, there, there was some, there's some big corruption that he just swept under the rug and, you know, caused them to stop looking and you know, like enforced regulations where they just couldn't look anymore. And I'm like, this is corruption at its, at its finest. You know, like, there is, I, I think there needs to be like a separate enforcement agency of sorts that is hidden. Like, not hidden, but people don't know who the, like, who they truly are. So they can't be corrupted. You know, it's kind of like, like, and, and, and that will eventually get corrupted because that's just the way things are. But it could start off promising where there are not connected from any government agency. There's no connections at all. And maybe they're just regular joes that we elect that will govern the government to a point. Because I, I think the government is, has gotten to this point where it's not a government anymore. We're talking a monarchy. You know, like, this is. Our governments have taken so much control and we are their peasants and, you know, they don't work for us anymore. We, we work and support them. It's. It's ridiculous.
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Top Lobster
I'm not sure if they ever worked for us. And I don't think, like, the more I, the more I research and the more I look at things under a biblical lens, I don't think that we could, like, men govern the government. It's. Well, specifically, if we're talking about the cartel right now that controls the Mexican government, this guy, the guy Bukele, he's the president for El Salvador. I don't know if you're familiar with him a little bit. Yeah, he declared war on their cartel and the moment he got in, basically just fortified the army. Army and went door to door. Literally just killed these dudes. But it was interesting in his interview with Tucker Carlson, what he, what he said, and it was just in passing, he was talking about like a testimony from one guy that didn't want to do what they wanted him to do anymore, which was like, just kill people randomly. And he said like, you know, they're like, we have to feed the beast. The literal beast requires this blood. So it's a, it's an admission that.
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David Lee Corbo
He was saying that they were doing child sacrifice too, didn't he?
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Top Lobster
Yeah. Or, yeah, it was killing children. And he's like, I'm not going to kill kids. And he's like, well, you know, the, I forget if it was the beast or if it was like the dragon or some. Something to that effect, but like, you're talking about the devil or some entity requiring this. That is what controls the government. And it's not, it's not as. It's. It's. It's very obvious. In, in Mexico, in America, it's becoming a lot more obvious. In Canada, I guess the people are still soundly asleep, which is very annoying.
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Ry Voss
Well, except for when the truckers wrote. When the truckers were like, that's a great. Those are like our Our. You kind of thing. And, And, And. And it. And it caused people to fall under, like, this flag. It was a movement. That's one thing we lack is, like, these movements. It was a movement that people could all get behind, you know, and, and it. And it was good. But then it just. Once it got to Ottawa, it stalled.
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David Lee Corbo
And like, I remember I was watching it pretty intently, and I was surprised that this thing was happening. It was arguably the biggest pushback against the COVID era, and it was happening in Canada, of all places.
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Ry Voss
Yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
And I found that fascinating.
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Ry Voss
Yeah. Amen to the. To the truckers, you know, like, like they. They did something that most could not, you know, like when we were out marching and protesting as well, you know, we're doing our thing, but it's. It did not gain the momentum that. That these. That these truckers did, you know, but like, when we were out protesting, we were up against, like. Yeah, it's. What are they called? Oh, my God. Why am I drawing a blank? The anti. Fast. Antifa. Yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
Oh, antifa. Yeah.
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Ry Voss
Antifa. In Canada, we're up against them, you know, and they would. They would show up in their little masks and everything. It's so strange that their name is Anti Fascist. Anti fascist. Yeah. They are fascists.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah. It's. It's a. It's literally a joke on its face.
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Top Lobster
It's like affordable health care, you know, like.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, exactly, exactly. But going back to Top's point, you know, where he's saying, like, these spiritual things are what run governments and here in America, you know, you said that. It's becoming more obvious. Top. I remember not long ago, I think it was during Obama's presidency, there was a little girl who was famously tasked by her, like, you know, elementary school teacher to do a family tree and to pick someone famous. And the little girl picks Obama. And this story goes like, you know, it goes on national news, and it's like, oh, isn't it adorable that this little girl has done a DNA deep dive on Obama's family tree? And would you guess what she found? Obama is related to, you know, 40. 40American presidents. 40American presidents, something like that. 40, 41. Whatever it was, there was only a couple of American presidents who were not genetically related to Obama. And we all just, as a nation, we went, oh, that's adorable. Look at this little girl doing her job. And she's, you know, what a. What a cool thing. Isn't that fascinating? And the conspiracy theorists are going, wait, what? How are all these people related? And they were like, Shut up. Don't worry about that. This little girl is adorable. And they just moved on. So I mean, yeah, if you dig deep enough. All of this is about spirituality and, and ancient bloodlines and it's. Yeah, Obama is a Bush. Shout out to Great Pill podcast. He's related to the Bushes. It was incredible. It was incredible moment and it fell on deaf ears. And the vast majority.
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Top Lobster
He's related to James Madison. Like that's how Jesus. It's a bloodline. It's. It's a bloodline. It's. And I don't want to. It's not. I'm not black pilled about it. I just, I guess I'm. I think if, if we're realistic about what we're looking at, it's a lot easier to fight like if we continue. I, I came up in the libertarian space so I understand all the, the policies and all the political notions that you have to go through to get. And nothing changes. As a matter of fact, the Libertarian Party is worse than it's. Than when it started, when I started getting into it. And you. Yeah, it's a spiritual battle, man. And most of these things are. Whether we're talking about politics or aliens or you know, child sacrifice, it all comes down to the same thing. And I kind of wanted to swing the conversation to. In, in the email you sent me, you said you had a couple of interesting stories about things that you've witnessed and, and seen. Now that we're like, yeah, yeah, I want to move this way.
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Ry Voss
Let's switch this up. Let's move off from conspiracies into other things. Yeah. So I, I've had a life full of, of experiences. So you know, we can start with that. You know, like the, the first real experience that I. Well, tied in with vaccines actually is that I, and I don't know if this is tied in with specific vaccines, but this happened to my daughter. But now it also something happened to me and that's why I kind of think. And maybe it was vaccine related. When I was, you know, a couple months old, I, I developed this super high fever and I was extremely sick and I had my last rights read to me by a priest because they thought I was going to die. And that ties into my daughter's experience where, where I mentioned that the vaccines were that. But enough of that, let's. So I had an experience when I was about 10 years old and I was running a race and we're talking crazy kind of stuff here was I had my first real memorable out of Body experience. I was running this race and these kids were in front of me and I'm like, I gotta catch up to them. Because in Canada we had this thing called Canada Fitness and you get these badges of competence. You know, you can get like silver or bronze, silver, gold. And then excellence. And of course everybody wanted excellence. So these kids were in front of me and I'm like, I, I gotta pick it up. And I was getting close to the, the end. And so I push myself beyond what I normally do. And at that exact moment, I literally shot out of my head and I could see everybody running. I could see everybody running up in front of me, like. And I was about 20, maybe 30ft up in the air and I could see the kids in front of me and that's when I saw myself running. As soon as that happened, boom, right back in. And it was like right here, you know, like the crown back into my body, continued running and finish the race. And of course as a 10 year old kid, you know, you, you don't have any filters. So I start like, oh, this happened, this happened. And all the kids at that time, of course, you're like, you're weird, you know that you're lying, you're crazy, you're weird. So that was me being dubbed that at that point was that I was the, the weird kid. And, and that's where it all began more or less was these kind of experiences that just kind of snowballed and compiled one upon the other. Yeah, that was interesting.
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David Lee Corbo
It seems like a result of, of you pushing yourself. Right. Is kind of how you described it. Yeah, that's interesting because that's not typically something that you hear coming out of the, the top of your head is also interesting. We've been doing this series like Top mentioned earlier, NDS Chronicles, and we've been finding a lot of people smoking K2 Spice. It's, it's a synthetic marijuana alternative so that you don't have to pop hot for probation. But one of the stories that came out of there is that somebody slid out specifically through the soles of their feet. And I find then they fell through the ground and they were looking up at themselves. Polar opposite of what you're describing, but still very similar experience. It just gets me thinking if there is a physiological, not a physiological method, but is there a significance in the way that your body, certain parts of your body, plays with the spiritual realm, the tops of your head, the soles of your feet, things of that nature.
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Ry Voss
It very much could. You know, you got your crown Chakra and then you have your grounding. You know, you're grounding to the earth, which is your feet, as, as they call it, earthing. You know, that seems to be the, the new term that they're coming up with, which very much could be it. You know, it's, it's so strange. I, I definitely felt that it was this exertion, like this push beyond the normal boundaries that my body was ready for. And it pushed me out and away. Could that be some experience when some people are being tortured, you know, they, they, some people will have these out of body experiences where, you know, they, they get moved out. And I'm not saying I was being tortured, freaking running a race, but yeah, it was, it was really interesting. And I found it, you know, coming out of the, the crown, you know, as it would say, the crown chakra. It, I found that interesting that that was where I shot out of. And as soon as I had this realization that I was out, I was right back in then too. It, it might have lasted for maybe.
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David Lee Corbo
Two seconds, but that's consistent too, because there's some sort of state of mind that is eluding me. I am somebody that has a tendency to like, see weird things. If I'm trying to like, go to sleep behind my eyes and, and it seems like there's a pattern, like it usually resembles other instances. And it feels like I'm going somewhere. Maybe there's a portal or maybe I can see something. And it's like profound. I'm like. But as soon as I go, whoa, wait a second, boom, it's gone. As soon as I pay any attention to it, as soon as I try to use like my logical, analytical mind to, you know, perceive what's happening, the whole thing stops. And, and I don't think that that's unique to me or unique to you in that experience. It seems like the, all of this is about a state of mind. It's almost like you were so focused on doing better that that is where all your energy was. And so your body was like, all right, I guess your soul is faster than your flesh, so let's kick that thing out and send it that way, you know, or something like that. But, but once you start to try to get analytical and logical about it, the whole thing goes away.
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Ry Voss
Yeah, I could not agree more with you. You know, it's. Once you have like this, this logic, the logical mind comes in and it kind of like says, this can't happen or this, this shouldn't be happening. And it's like you know, you deny him and, and, and it was at that point I, I don't, I haven't had any other out of body experiences after that. And I'm, I believe I attribute it to myself in my interactions with the people after where they're like, you know, putting this negative connotation onto it, like, oh, you're weird, that's strange, that didn't happen, you're a liar kind of thing. And it's like, oh, well that's not good. You know, I, I had this, you know, made this relationship between those two so that never ever happened again to me, you know, this out of body type of experience to that context. Like that's not talking about dreaming. Because when, when I dream, man, oh, I, I go far, I, I go a ways away and crazy, crazy ass.
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David Lee Corbo
It feels like that more concrete, that rigid way of thinking, it's, it's beneficial to the material that we live in, but it is ruled right by like that Darwinian evolution kind of a thing or like scienceism, which is like science is becoming its own religion or has become its own religion there. It's like numbers and science and evolution are the hard logical parameters that keep us locked into this realm. I remember having an experience when I was a kid. I had a dream that I was, I was climbing up a ladder and my father was at the bottom of the ladder and he's crying and this ladder is in the middle of a highway in Florida. I think it resembled one that I had seen, you know, pretty recently because I had made a trip to Florida. And so I'm climbing up this ladder and I have this shimmery glow. I go up into the clouds and then I remember coming down and I'm like dulled somehow. I don't have the shimmery golden glow anymore and I just descend down the ladder. When I was a kid, this happened when I was six. And you know what my analysis of it was? I made sense of it in my own head. When I was a kid. I said, because I was six years old.
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Ry Voss
Yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
And I correlated it with school and as a six year old I correlated it with like, I don't have that thing anymore because school has ruined, removed it from me. And I'm now in this rigid way of thinking math and science and history. And I don't know that that's at all true. But what I do know is that as a six year old that was what I decided that meant. I was like, yeah, I don't have the shimmer anymore because I go to school.
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Ry Voss
That is interesting. You know, and, and I, I, you know, our younger selves are so much, you know, open. You know, we're so much able to understand what we, you know, what's truly happening. Whereas school has regimented and has cut off, cut ties to certain things and kind of like saying like, that's not possible. That's not real. You know, these numbers are real. You know, your, your division, your multiplication table. That's real. Real. You know, this history in this book is real. But what you're talking about, we're not going to go into there. You know, it's. It, it. It is. It is crazy. And I find that, yeah, like, our schooling has really cut off a lot of things, and that's why actually we homeschool our daughter. It's kind of like we don't. There's too many things that are going on in this world that are out of our control. We're putting her in possession of. Of people who I don't really know, you know, and in the face value, you know, you got to meet a teacher and she's. She's great. But then it gets to a point, like, how well do you know that? What are they actually? What kind of values are they implying with her? You know, what are they. What are they teaching her? You know, like, there's magic in this world and we cut them off from our, from our children. We put them into this cookie cutter mold, and it's like, this is what you need to learn. This is what you need to know. And it's like, no, you need to question these things. You need to have access. What do you want to learn? Where do you want to excel at? And. Okay, we're going to do that. Don't get me wrong, I'm still teaching her, you know, mathematics and everything else like that. But, you know, she, she loves the show. She knows there's a lot of times she asked me the questions about the show and, and I, I let her on some of it because some of it I feel is too dark for her. But there's certain things that I'm like, yeah, you know, this. She listens to my stories, to the experiences that I've had that I've told a couple of times. And, you know, she asked me questions about them. Like, like the time that I. I swear I saw into another reality. And I don't know if you guys want to hear that one.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, dude. What?
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Ry Voss
Okay. Yeah, so. And this is recent. This is like the most recent thing that, that has happened to Me. So this was. And I have it written down. This was August 23rd, 2024. Okay? So I. I write down all my experiences, the mo. The best I can, because my mind, sometimes I. It's a little bit like Swiss cheese. Things fall through, and I forget about them. But this. I might forget the date, but I'll never forget what happened. So I was driving to the. One of the local little grocery stores, and it's a smaller one here, and. And I pulled up, and I start to get out of the car, but that's when something messes up with my vision. And a lot of people. I posted this on Reddit, and it took off, but a lot of people are like, oh, that's an ocular migraine. What you have was an ocular migraine, and I'm willing to entertain that to a point. So in ocular migraines, where he starts to see these vivid colors and things, and it. There's no pain. It's not like an actual migraine or a headache. It's not like you have a pain, but you start to see these colors.
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David Lee Corbo
And.
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Ry Voss
And what I saw was very intense colors. Like, if you stared at the sun for, like, five minutes, and then you look around, you see, like, these really bright tracers, almost like. Like plasma. Like what Brad talks about with his plasma portals and all his. His talk about plasma. That is kind of what I think I saw. I. I swear to God, I started seeing, like, these intense, bright colors. Yellow, orange, fuchsias, purples, while my eyes are open, and I'm like, okay. And then it starts to open, and this is where I discredit this ocular migraine because it forms, like, this tear. It's like a triangle. It starts small, and it just keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger. And so it's like a. Like, it's, like, rimmed, and it's kind of like rolling in on itself. It's kind of like there's. There's this triangular opening now, that's in my vision. I'm walking into the store, trying to keep cool, trying to act like everything's.
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Top Lobster
Freaking out, man.
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Ry Voss
Because I got to get my bacon. I gotta get my cheese, because this store sells it cheap. And I'm standing in line, and I'm like, what is going on? So I start to see through this and. And that. That's where I said where things get weird. I start to see through this to the other side, and I'm making out exactly what I see. Like, I can. I can see there's the. The Ground is strewn with rubble. Okay. And I want to say rocks, but it's more like rubble. And it's not big, they're smaller pieces. It looks like some sort of old, not factory, but possibly large. What I want to say this, like maybe a factory or short. It's just like a warehouse, A large warehouse. Sorry, that's what I wanted to say. And in the background there's these huge industrial size fans and. And they each have like three blades on three or four blades. And they're slowly rotating. They're slowly rotating in a counterclockwise manner. And I don't know if that plays into a part of it being counterclockwise, you know, because they always say, you know, the contrarian is always going opposite of, opposite of the clockwise. That, that's a native, a thing they talk about contrarians always going opposite of clockwise. But it. The. And I can see like this building and these fans and they're in boxes. They're large like box type fans, but they're huge. These industrial kind of like venting type of fans. Some of them are stacked too high, some of are just single and they're kind of in a wall on a robe in the back. The sky I can see as well. And everything has this rusty brownish hue to it. Everything, you know, there is nothing more than this. And, and the sky looks, it looks post apocalyptic. Okay. And so like there's a wall on the left hand side. It's kind of made still, but on the right it's blown out. Whatever was there is gone. And I'm still standing there in this grocery store going like this, like, okay, okay, I can, I can see with this side. Okay, I can see it with this side. One thing I didn't do was close both eyes. That's the only thing I didn't do was to see if like, okay, let's see if I can see it with both eyes closed. But like it was a fixed point. Like I was only allowed to see this fixed point. So no matter where I turned, I still saw this, this.
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David Lee Corbo
And I saw you aware of people. Was there, were there any people in this?
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Ry Voss
No, there was nobody in this. It was desolate, empty. And I'm still trying to operate. It was like I was like in two worlds trying to operate. I'm trying to operate in this world. By.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, you're doing picture in picture mode.
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Ry Voss
Yes. And. And this picture is taking up about 50 of my vision. And so I'm like, just be cool. Just be cool. And this isn't like 30 seconds, a minute? No, we're talking. This whole ordeal was 15 to 20 minutes long.
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Top Lobster
You got the bacon and the cheese.
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Ry Voss
I got the chicken out.
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David Lee Corbo
Talk to the cashier for it.
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Ry Voss
And I'm like trying to pay.
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David Lee Corbo
He's talking to the cashier like this. Let me ask you this, right? What were your feelings about it? What were the impressions? Because you, you use the language post apocalyptic, I think when it comes to, I would, I would label that a spiritual moment, a vision of some sort. I think in these moments your impression counts for a lot. And if, if you're not so sure about that, you need only look at remote viewers where they will write down all the impressions, all the feelings that they got about the scene that they were viewing. What were your impressions of this? How do you feel about it?
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Ry Voss
And that's, that's a great comment. A lot of people are like, oh, you saw the future? You saw this? No, no, no. I believe I saw through the veil. I believe I saw the other side. I believe I saw what the disembodied spirits are living in them. The Upside down pretty much. So the nephilim that have been killed, you know, their spirits cannot rest. They, they are on another side. Why are they trying to get into us? You know, why are they? Because nephilim that are killed, in my belief, are the demons. These are the demons that tried to possess us. Why they try to possess us. So they can eat, they can taste, they can feel, they can see everything that we see that they did before. Because they're in this world. They're in the world that there is nothing. They're in the world that is desolate, that is post apocalyptic, where they wander and, and they, you know, they, they can see what is on the other side. And perhaps that's, and, and some people are like, oh, maybe you're seeing the grocery store, you know, in the future. No, I don't believe so. I, I believe it was like the Upside down, where it's been inhabited by these spirits that. And Paul Stobbs talks about something very similar to this himself actually, where he saw a hat man in the same type of post apocalyptic type of scenario as well, where everything was just like this brownish color. He saw, he saw like the sign hanging by a chain, swinging back and forth, making the sound as well. And it, it gives credence to what I, I believe in that. So I didn't see any type of entities. I just saw this warehouse that was, you know, destroyed more or less. And I, I actually if you guys, if you guys want any, any sort.
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David Lee Corbo
Of emotion attached to it, right? Like sadness or, or fear or anything like that?
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Ry Voss
Emptiness. Emptiness. That is what I felt was just this empty of this place. Now, if you guys are, are okay, I can, I can share a picture on here. I, I got AI to, you know, I'm trying to describe it the best I can, so I got AI to, to do up a picture, say, hey.
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Top Lobster
AI, draw where you come from.
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Ry Voss
Exactly, exactly. So this was like, of course, this is, there was a huge warehouse, but this was like the sky and the colors. I don't know if you guys can see that there.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
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Ry Voss
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So this was like the sky. Everything was this, this brownish color. There was. But this rubble was everywhere and these fans were way further back. I, I think I have a better picture that just kind of shows these there like this, this is actually much more similar to what I saw. And, but these fans were much further back and I could just, they're slowly moving in this counterclockwise mode, you know, like this movement was counterclockwise and everything was just desolate, dark, lacked of color, and it was just dead. The world was dead. Is, is.
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David Lee Corbo
Look, I think that everything happens for a reason, but I also wonder, like, in the grand scheme of things, it happens for a reason, but in that moment, are you being shown something, or did you somehow slip into something?
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Top Lobster
This is the question. Yeah. Do you think you, not just, not necessarily were you shown, but do you think you were in the same spot geographically, but just in a, like a dimensional slip?
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Ry Voss
I, I don't know. I don't. Absolutely no on that one, I, I believe that I was showing something when I got so. And then I had to drive home. Okay. Because, like, I'm like, what do I do? Do I do I just stay at this? Yeah. Do I just stay at this, this thing? And man, again, people were ripping me apart on Reddit. Oh, why are you driving home doing that? And I'm like, well, I was only.
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David Lee Corbo
I know it went viral on Reddit, but those people don't deserve anything.
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Ry Voss
You know, I, I, I made up this meme about Reddit where it shows, you know, the Star wars were. Ben Kenobi is looking over Moss Eisley and he's like, you know, this is the, the, the scum of the universe. You know, this is the hive and villainy that is Reddit. But it's also fantastic as well. Like it there. I think there's a balance, that there's some of the greatest things I found on Reddit. And some of the worst things we should.
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Top Lobster
We should have an NDS Reddit. I don't want to be there, but somebody should.
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David Lee Corbo
There is one, but. But I think even the person that created it, they were just like, I don't want to be on Reddit. What am I doing? And so they got all off of Reddit. But it's interesting, Ry, because we talked about how your awareness will often cause these events to stop. That, to me, feels like you were shown something just because typically, I mean, it's not like we can say there's real rules of engagement. We don't know definitively. But typically, the pattern is once you logically analyze the situation, it diminishes. I was, yeah, recently laying in bed, and I became aware that I was looking at a place behind my eyes. And I think I was in, like, a state of sleep. But what ended up happening is I became aware that I was on a street. And there was, like, a lady in a blue shirt and blonde hair. She's walking past me. I'm on a sidewalk. It's an otherwise nice neighborhood. Affluent people are walking. It's. It's, you know, like a main street, but bustling. And. And I became aware that I wasn't. That I was, like, seeing this and I wasn't actually there. And then all of a sudden, my entire field of vision, all the way to the edges of my periphery, dislodged and started distancing itself from me, exposing all around the edges, like, blackness. And I'm suddenly asking myself a lot of questions. Where am I seeing? Where are people going? What is this? What is this? Over and over again in a way that I wouldn't typically do. But my internal dialogue is, what is this? What is this? Where is this? Where is this? What's happening? What am I looking at? What am I looking at? Over and over again. And it starts to pull away from me and it starts to degrade, okay. And everything becomes shadows of, like, deep green and black almost in the way that you would see, like, the matrix where everything is raining green text. But it wasn't green text. It was more like dark green granular sand mixed with black granular sand. And so the whole thing degrades. And my pov, like, my point of view is now one that is stuck and looking at the sidewalk. And all I'm left with now is the ability to see shadows passing by me in my periphery, people walking by me, but I'm no longer able to. I'm almost experiencing paralysis in whatever that Place is I can't lift my head and look anymore. And. And then I. I guess it just stops and I go, all right, well, I guess I can't get back in. So I open my eyes, and I'm fully awake. But I've been staring at this degrading for several minutes now at this point, before I decide, like, I guess it's not happening anymore. I guess I can't get back. So I open my eyes. I just look around my room. But you didn't have that. You're staring at this for 15, 20 minutes.
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Top Lobster
You're.
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David Lee Corbo
You're in this place.
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Top Lobster
Tell me about. Because I need to know. So you start driving. And when you're driving, what. What happens to this other place?
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Ry Voss
It stays. Like I said, I was. I was, like, at a fix. And that's why I don't think it was it. Like I said, I don't know. But I don't believe it was attached to that one location, because when I drove, it never changed. That point of view was the only perspective. It was like looking through a window. No matter where I looked here, that window remained solid. And so when I drove home, I will say it was a very difficult drive, you know, But I only live a couple blocks away, a couple of Mexican blocks and American blocks or Canadian blocks, which are much further. So it was, you know, like, I can walk to that store. It'll take me less than five minutes to walk to that store. So, you know, minute and a half, two minutes, I'm home, and I parked the car and I went up into the bedroom and I told my wife and. And, you know, I said, oh, I think I got a headache. I need to lay down. And I have an ocular migraine. Yeah. And. And this is another thing I want to say is, like, perhaps these ocular migraines, which are really. They don't know what causes them, perhaps. Yeah, they're. They are exactly what they are. Where we actually are seeing through or we're seeing something more that's beyond than what we can actually see. And this is happening to people. And people are like, oh, your retina is detaching or this or that. Like, you know, it doesn't matter what's happening.
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David Lee Corbo
I'm peering into another realm.
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Ry Voss
Exactly. Everybody wants to be a doctor and tell you what's happening to you, but they don't want to listen to you. They don't want to listen to what you experience. And I find that all the time, you know, it's just like, no, this is what happened you know, like, like when you're describing, describing that vision that you just had, people like, oh no, that's just this, that's just that. Like a lot of times I'll describe my dream. So like, no, this is what this was. I'm like, the hell it was.
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David Lee Corbo
You know where you see that a lot, right? You see that in sleep paralysis. So for the experiencer, sleep paralysis can be a, a ground, a world shattering event, a world shattering spiritual event. And oftentimes what will happen is it is reduced by somebody who did not experience it to a state of mind that the brain goes into so that you're not acting out your dreams. And it's like, yes, sure, there is a mode of paralysis so that you're not acting out your dreams that your body slips into. I'm well aware of that. But I also think that you're in a state of mind where you are in the veil or you're riding the veil, you're on the cusp of physical reality and this spiritual realm and you don't have any way of explaining scientifically to me the various entities you'll see in that state and why these things adhere to a set of patterns that is otherworldly.
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Top Lobster
You know what's funny? I'm looking, I'm looking it up here. So you have some of the, they have the symptoms of it, but the causes and triggers. So stress or anxiety. This is a like form of trauma, hormonal changes. This is actual like there. These are ones and zeros of chemicals in your body that are going up or down and dehydration, lack of sleep, certain foods, processed foods, chocolates, caffeine, which is a drug. And then it also says a risk factor, family history, anything.
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David Lee Corbo
That's just a way of saying, I don't know.
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Top Lobster
No, I mean, listen, this is if it could be something that's passed down in your family. It's like a thing that happens to people. But I'm a big believer of when, like when Jesus healed people in the Bible, it wasn't a miracle. It's intense innate knowledge of how to do it. There are like, if, if you want to talk about this world as like sort of like the matrix thing, Matrix with ones and zeros, where we're talking about in frequency and like vibration and stu stuff. Jesus could look at somebody, see exactly what's wrong with them and just balance that out. This is like this change, you know.
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Ry Voss
Change these numbers, change these perspectives and boom, yes, there you go.
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Top Lobster
This is a simple way for us to think about it because we're familiar with computers, but obviously this is much more complicated and it's a creation. God created this. So of course there are, there are factors that can be tweaked around. We just talked about MK Ultra. You change a little bit of this, a little bit of that, you got a school shooter, you know, so the.
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David Lee Corbo
Fact science could hypnotize people and turn them into something different for a period of time. You're a dog now. For 30 minutes you did something, you know, and we, we look at it as a novelty, but there's something there.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, well, science can explain it all they want, but, like, this is a, there are a set of circumstances that create this, create this condition. And what is that condition? You know, I don't know.
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Ry Voss
Yeah, it's. And, and I will say I got to the point where I actually called on Jesus to get rid of this, and that's. And that is when it went away. Really. Yeah, it, that that was the only way I could get it to go away. And because I, I'm laying down and I'm like, what the. Like, I, you know, I don't want.
- [96:17]
David Lee Corbo
To look at these box fans anymore.
- [96:19]
Ry Voss
Yeah, I'm like, what am I seeing? Why am I like. Then I start questioning my own sanity, my own reality, my own health as well. And so then I, I call on Jesus to get rid of this and like, two minutes gone, really, it slowly just faded away and went away. And that was it. So, and when you were talking, Raymond, when you're talking about sleep paralysis, I do have a, an event that I talked to Vicki Joy about that I never knew if it was sleep paralysis. To this day, I still don't know if it was sleep paralysis or not. But I had a, an event when I was about 19. And this year, kind of, in my opinion, shape, my trajectory, you know, like, directed me into a certain direction that I went when I was about. I, I, I. And I never wrote this down for the, when it happened. So it was anywhere between 17 to 18 years old. I, I was hanging out with some friends, playing video games, and came back home. And I remember the, the night itself was full of the northern lights, or aurora borealis, whatever you want to call them. I remember staying outside for quite a while, seeing this, and, you know, like, I always find that so amazing, but I went to bed because I had to be up early in the morning and I was doing that. You know, when you can't fall asleep and you're staring at the clock and you're like if I fall asleep now, I'm gonna have seven hours and 34 minutes, you know, I'll be asleep for this long. And then it kept on ticking down, ticking down. And so finally I was laying in bed and. And this is the other thing I've heard people say. You know, it's like they, it's not like they're getting talked to, but it's like you're getting a message, but it's not a distinct voice. It's just kind of like an urge to do something. And for me it was, you need to look up. And so I rolled onto my back and floating above me, about three and a half feet above me was this shadow. Okay, the shadow being. And I don't say person because I don't think it was a person. And I can see the head, I can see the neck, you know, the outline, clear outline of the shoulders, around the torso and around the waist area. That's when it drifted off into like this, it was black shadow. But when it drifted off into like this nothingness, it. It was like this white vapor, smoke, like Hollywood esque type ghost almost floating above me. And now that's one thing to terrify you, but you're gonna. The, the worst thing was the eyes. So the eyes were glowing red. So they had these red glowing eyes. Not like this, not like flashlights. But it's kind of when people talk about like these glowing eyes when they see Dogman or Sasquatch.
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David Lee Corbo
Stealth illuminating.
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Top Lobster
It's eyeshine.
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Ry Voss
Exactly. So this was red and it was like this incandescent red glowing, you know, similar to, I don't know, it was just this red glowing eyes. This thing was there for maybe a couple of seconds, maybe, I don't know the time limit because I laid there, I could not move. And this is when people are like, well, that's sleep paralysis. I used to attribute it to, you know, like you have the three. You have like fight, flight or freeze. And for me, I thought I was scared stiff. I said I was scared stiff because I couldn't move. Could have been sleep paralysis. Yeah, it might have been. And I laid there, I don't know how long I laid for after this thing disappeared. And. And when I say it was black, like it was blacker than black. Like it was. It was dark in my bedroom, but it was, it.
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Top Lobster
Was it looking at you?
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Ry Voss
Yes. Oh yeah, for sure. Definitely. Like face to face.
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Top Lobster
I saw the same thing. I told the story recently, but it wasn't looking at me. It was when I was younger in this same house that I used to live in, but now my cousin lived in it. They've since moved. My other cousin sleeping in the. At the mouth of the. The hallway. Hallway opening. And this huge shadow. Same thing, Red eyes. But it was like an eye shine. Like, I thought it was like glowing eyes. At first I couldn't describe it, but as I got older and I started hunting and then you. You understand what, like, eye shine looks like? Like, that was eye shine. But it didn't come back. Like, we got gators out here. They come back like orange, yellow eyeshine. This one was red. I remember seeing that. But he was looking at her. And I remember seeing it and going. And like putting my head. But blacker than black. It was the middle of the night and it was a dark living room, and I could see this thing, a distinct figure. Same exact thing. Same exact figure, yeah.
- [100:29]
David Lee Corbo
And people will. Will dismiss that as like, well, being in a state of paralysis causes immense fear. And. And then what happens is because you're in a pseudo sleep state, you're having visual hallucinations, you're projecting your own fears out there. And I'm like, look, man, there are some pretty limited categories of entities that people see. Are we just for a lack of creativity, unable to project anything except for what thousands of other people have seen?
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Top Lobster
Yeah. Why did I see it?
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Ry Voss
Exactly. That's a great question. Yeah. Like, it's almost as if we're in between the worlds, you know, like we're between sleep and, and awake, and you're kind of like you have your foot in one and foot in the other and you can see between the worlds. Because I really believe that our dream world is. Is something completely different. I believe it's a whole different access to a whole different reality as well, you know, different dimensions. But I, you know, perhaps we are in between that state and we can actually see in between. And. And that's why we can see it.
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David Lee Corbo
Which then tells you that we have the ability to do that. It's interesting because that to me, seems I would understand why we couldn't have it all the time. Look, maybe if we could have it all the time, then going back to the grander conversation of we exist in a biblical realm, if we saw that sort of thing all the time, is that even free will? Because what I find is that these moments turn people towards God if they pass it through the correct filter. Now, if we're all inundated all the time and we're all constantly seeing the spiritual realm, I would say we have A lot less choosing to do because it's glaringly obvious. And I do think that God wants us to choose him. And I think that these moments are. Are these. They're these little nudges, you know, because we often don't have a place to put them. Your. Your paranormal experiences, you talk about them, you share the stories, but they're not often well received and they're not constructive. And on this. Com, you know, on this show, we can have a conversation about it and maybe actually unpack some things, but generally speaking, to the average person that you bump into, it's just like, wow, that's a crazy dream. So anyway, but despite that, they do flavor our lives for the rest of it. You know what I mean? It's like these moments are. They are. What's the. The terminology that Cliff uses? Temporal markers. Temporal markers in your life that forever flavor the way that you see the world. And I think they're like these little nudges. It's like you're allowed to peek behind the veil. You're allowed to see these entities, and then you have a decision. What do you make of them? Do you leave them alone? And do you go, oh, I don't know, must have been a dream, or does it cause you to spiral? And the rest of your life is dedicated to unpacking paranormal things and conspiracies? And. And is it the catalyst for your journey to God? Because that's what it was for me.
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Ry Voss
Me too.
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David Lee Corbo
And I can't say that for everybody, but I think that that is much less meaningful if we're constantly just inundated with demons, disembodied spirits of the nephilim. We go, oh, it's definitively real, and God is definitively real. And that's not really the same thing as free will or choice. I mean, it. I guess it is, but it's a lot less potent.
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Ry Voss
Yeah, I. I agree totally. Like, you know, when you have these events and people are like, oh, you're just. Your mind is just creating these things. Like, has my mind created something so life changing, so drastic, that I actually changed my life in the course of. The course of, you know, the trajectory that I'm taking in my life, you know, that I step away from religion, I start going into the new age, start questioning everything, you know, come into shamanism, and then come back to Christianity. Like, this has been the big, huge kind of like, step around that I did. But I. I come back with a whole new perspective, a whole new, you know, understanding of it all. That is what these things? Do you know? That's not just a. Oh, I just. I. I think I saw something. No, this has been something so drastic that it causes you to change your whole life and your whole. And like you said, going after these conspiracies, going after these, you know, these ghosts, these UFOs, these everything, you know, seeking these. Trying to seek these answers. That's what this did for me. It was. It moved me in that direction.
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David Lee Corbo
Do you know what put me in this chair?
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Top Lobster
Right, Yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
I just wanted to say, almost 30 years ago, the hat man. That's it. That's what started all of this. The hat man, sleep paralysis, shadow entities. Now we sit in this chair and we talk to tens of thousands of people on a regular basis, and we try to unpack the reality around us and bring people closer to God. All of that stems from, for me, at least in my personal journey, sleep paralysis, the hat man and shadow people. That's kind of remarkable. And like I said, it often falls on deaf ears. Until you have an audience or a conversation with another experience or it falls on deaf ears. Something that seems otherwise insignificant to somebody else who is not you, actually is potentially the most significant moment in your entire life.
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Ry Voss
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
I was going to ask, Rya, in your experiences through shamanism and the new Age, what were. What were some of the things that stood out to you? Because we're already above a half an hour and a half, but I got to know, what are the things that, like, stood out to you in your transformation back to. Back to God or into God and Jesus Christ?
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Ry Voss
Well, I feel that a lot of people. We'll talk in the New age thing. A lot of people get stuck with this light and love, and they don't want to face their realities. They want to believe that we're just all spiritual. We're all spirits. We're all spirits. Yeah. Yeah, we are. But we're having a physical experience is what we're doing. And they want to discredit that. They want to discredit our human experience to just be like this. I'm going to elevate for the fifth dimension. I'm just going to elevate for this fifth dimension while forgetting what's actually happening in this world. And that's why I feel that a lot of things have gone into the shambles they are, is because they're just waiting for something to happen, something big to happen for them to ascend. But we're forgetting to do the work here and now and to fix this. This crap that's going on and we're allowing these people just to allow the, to go on. Now shamanism in his whole, in my opinion is a whole other bag though. I, I, I have not forgone a lot of the shamanistic teachings that I have. I've learned. You know, a lot of them are quite attributed to, you know, Christ like and, and, and Christian values as well, you know, and it's I, I, some of them, okay, some of them I, I can be, some of them are best left, left to the side, you know. But I ended up like my shamanistic training was. I, I learned under, and, and this is nowhere near the time that you need, but I, I studied under one shaman for a year and then I was taken in by a medicine woman for a couple of years, more like three, four years, you know, and I ended up being her fire keeper at her sweat lodge, you know, and I did tons of sweat lodges as well. And I feel like when you're talking about, you know, doing that out of body experiences, stressing your body, that's kind of what, it's, what it's entailing, you know, but it, it's really a lot of it. And these sweat lodges is, is pushing you to face your inner demons and to not look about like oh this, this, it has to look inside because people will take, you know, a thousand nine elevens rather than actually truly look at themselves and see that, the problems that they have inside. And it's, it's like, okay, and even then I, you know, you still, sometimes you just still see that problem. Oh, okay, I'm just going to push that off to the side and I'm not going to actually truly face it. I'm not going to go into the deeper of why, why, why, why am I like this? Why am I doing this? And, and I do feel that that is something that shamanism in my perspective helps you do because you can't truly help others if you yourself are like this damaged person. And you know, so I would say that's why I kind of moved away from helping others with my, with my shamanism and actually using it to go deeper within myself. And, and, and we're talking like I'm just scratching the surface when I, when I'm dealing with my own issues. And, and I also feel that that is a thing that we do is we now these days we're trying to get people to accept our mental illnesses. We're trying to like, you need to, you need to acknowledge my mental illness, but I'm not going to Deal with it. You just all have to accept it. And I'm going to take drugs for that. And. But you still have to acknowledge my mental illness. And. But no, no, it's like we need to deal with our own. That is the biggest thing, that's my biggest takeaway from this all, is that we have to stop avoiding our own and we have to start dealing with it.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah. Yeah. And on that note, even conspiracies, and I know it's shooting myself in the foot here because I do a show on conspiracies, but I. I did recognize a long time ago that when I became a conspiracy theorist when I was younger, a lot of that was because I felt like my own life was out of control. And rather than looking inward and doing the work and lifting myself out of the mess that I had created, I decided to hyper fixate on all the things that ail the world. And I think you can actually see a lot of that within the left too. They do that sort of thing, right, where it's like they're morbidly obese, pink haired, pixie cut women with acne and they're screaming about everything that ails the world, but you look at them and you go, your house is in disarray. Yeah. I think many of us outsource our own internal work and we. It's almost easier in some ways to. To fight the Illuminati than it is to go, why do I suck so bad? So I agree.
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Ry Voss
Yeah. And you know, we're all waiting. Most of us are still waiting for someone to save ourselves. But we have to realize that we are our own heroes to our own story. We have to be our own saviors. We have to save ourselves before we can, you know, move forward and move on.
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David Lee Corbo
I think that that is a good place to bring this in for a landing. Right. It was an excellent conversation. I wasn't necessarily too sure where we were going to go, but I'm neither. With all the places that we went, I think that happens all the time here. We end up just talking to people about whatever the hell we want to talk about. But it was a fantastic conversation and I'm really glad that our audience got to be exposed to, to you and your work one more time. For those who are curious, where can people find you? Right.
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Ry Voss
Codega's Codex of curiosities. Spotify, YouTube, Instagram, everywhere else. And you know what? If anybody ever wants to reach out to me, by all means, reach out. Send me a message. Ry Voss. You know, you'll find Me on. I, I'm pretty active on Facebook and I'm getting active on Instagram. You know, hit me up. You've got any experiences. That's. That's great. And I put out, I put out shows on just about everything, you know, everything that we question, everything that we have.
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David Lee Corbo
I saw, I saw you did it. You did some content on the whole Sean Ryan situation. I believe I saw that when we were talking to you in the beginning, and I, I intended to, to bring that up to you, you know, the drones and, and everything, but much happier with the conversation we had instead.
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Ry Voss
Yeah, I, I got one comment for that, is that I believe that a lot of times reality is flooded by fakery and, and they, you know, like, perhaps there really was some real stuff out there and they just flood it to discredit everybody. And, and yeah, again, when I talked about like the CIA or we'll say three letter agencies perverting movements and conspiracies, that is exactly what they do. That, that. That is their, you know, by their playbook. Flood it to discredit it. You know, There'll be like 30 conspiracies about this, all with one actually being true and the other one being just all these. Well, not all of them, but I'm saying a lot of them will have false narratives or dead ends, and then they can discredit everybody. You know, it's like it's just a plane. It's just a drone. That's all it is.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah. Cognitive infiltration. Cass Sunstein, part of the Obama administration. Look up that, guys, and you'll. You'll see what we're in the midst of. Well, I think, like I said, it's a good place to land it. Right? I really appreciate your time. Top. Do we have. Is there anything else that we have to.
- [112:50]
Top Lobster
No. I know this is also going live to your audience. I see this person here. Testimony of the words. Yet you found people that are. So if you're a. You could come take a peek over. But we would love to hear your stories. If you guys, like, I, I know that Rye, you're doing something similar, but yeah, if, if you guys have stories that you feel like you can't talk to your family about, we email us Nephilim D Squad, gmail.com. we're reading it, we're reviewing them.
- [113:18]
David Lee Corbo
Share your stories with a couple of retards.
- [113:20]
Top Lobster
We're most than you.
- [113:23]
Ry Voss
I just want to say, guys, you know, I love your show. It's, it's, it's, it's fantastic.
- [113:27]
David Lee Corbo
Thank you.
- [113:28]
Top Lobster
Thank you, man. Thank you, but. All right, guys, we are gonna get out of here. We'll be back later at 4:30pm Eastern Standard Time with Owen Benjamin today. So until then, do not forget to obey, submit and comply. We'll see you later.
- [113:42]
Ry Voss
The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see to God, because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening. And they have.