
In this episode, we welcome Andy from Control Alt History for a deep dive into forgotten mysteries, supernatural phenomena, and hidden truths. We explore the Spiritcom, a device that allegedly allowed communication with the dead, and discuss whether...
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Andy
We are being hypnotized by people like this. Newsreaders, politicians, teachers, lecturers. We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people. The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely.
Top Lobster
Oh yeah, dude, there's some Nephilim shit.
Death David Lee Corbo
It's like we all know what's going down, but no one's saying shit. What happened to the home of the brave? These now when no one's talking about how they know it's not they slaves. And everybody's just walking around heading the clouds and want to wake up to a dead in the grave. But then it's too late. We need to be ready to raise up. Welcome to the end of day.
Andy
Everybody is slave. Only some are aware that the government.
Death David Lee Corbo
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad. It feels like we were only here 10 minutes ago. I am Death David Lee Corbo, aka the Raven that is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation. Before we get into today's guest, I would like to remind all of our live viewers that this is only a 30 minute preview. After the 30 minute mark, we will be going live exclusively to patreon.com backslash Nephilim Death Squad. If you would like to continue watching along, engaging in the chat and enjoying an ad free listening experience, then patreon.com backslash Nephilim Death Squad is for you. Otherwise, give it a couple of days and the episode will release for free in its entirety. Also guys, a quick mention, don't forget to go to toplopsa.com we now have our holsters. Our custom holsters. We collaborated with Snappy Holsters and brought to you a Dangerous Retards holster that can be custom fitted to whatever your typical conceal and carry is your your everyday carry. And so head on over there and get yourself a a really alarming holster for your gun. Otherwise, I would like to welcome to the show Andy of Control Alt History. Andy, you were recently put on our radar from a by a glowing endorsement from Kurt Metzger over on the Joe Rogan podcast. We had to.
Top Lobster
We were on a road trip over on Tinfoil Hat.
Death David Lee Corbo
Oh, I'm sorry. Was it okay? It was on Tinfoil. I thought it was on Rogan's and we were on a long drive. It was a great episode and we had to hop on your YouTube channel as soon as we did. We fell in love. You've got a bunch of great content and so for the audience who might not be familiar with you, Andy, let them know where they can find you and what it is you focus on.
Andy
Yeah, so primarily on YouTube control alt history is just the name of my channel and just kind of mostly focus on, you know, what I consider just kind of interesting stories from history. You know, Know, some people would kind of say it's more of like a conspiracy theory, quote unquote type type bent, but it's really anything. There's some esoteric and, you know, supernatural type stuff. It's a lot of like assassination mysteries generally kind of focus on stories that have kind of been forgotten about or overlooked or maybe not as widely known to people and have kind of been just forgotten about with time. So that's kind of the main focus.
Top Lobster
What, what got you into it, man? I, I like to probe conspiracy theorists every time I hear about. It's like, what, why, why, why did you start looking into this stuff?
Andy
I, I honestly, I've just always enjoyed reading. I read a lot. And about a year, year and a half ago, just kind of just started. Decided to start making YouTube videos about, you know, some of these interesting stories that I was reading about. And it's pretty much that simple.
Death David Lee Corbo
I find that a lot of the times the answer is just that they're. I mean, they're entertaining and they're engaging. You know what I mean? It's like if you are a fan of a good mystery on television, on Netflix, in the movies, well, if you give this sort of thing a swing, you'll find that it's. It's equally as compelling, oftentimes better and yeah, written just as well. So, yeah, sometimes you're just in it for the love of the game, but you have a shotgun spread of. Of different topics that you seem to explore. And one of the things that I was hoping that we could start talking about, wherever it goes, it goes. But this idea of the spirit comm is something that I saw on your page and it wasn't really there. Throughout history, there are these things that seemingly enable people to like, communicate with the dead. I guess the spirit comm speculatively would have been one of those things, but there's also like the Diceinian glass kind of a deal, right, where you can look through this glass and you can see entities. I believe there's even a form of sort of thermo imaging or something akin to it that the military was using for a while, but it's rumored that they had to stop because they kept seeing demons. So, like, every once in a While technology lets us do this sort of thing. What did you find with the Spirit comm?
Andy
Well, it's interesting. So there is kind of, as you mentioned, there's like a really long history of, you know, people who've tried to build devices that enable us in the living world to communicate with this spirit world. Thomas Edison was working on a, like a Spiricom type device that would enable you to phone the, the dead, the, you know, that type of world. Guillermo Marconi, who invented the telephone, was also working on a device. And even Nikola Tesla was working on a spirit phone type device before he died. And so there was this guy, George Meek, who was a very renowned engineer throughout his career, was a very high ranking executive with the Carrier Corporation. And he kind of decided after he retired he was really rich. He had a whole bunch of like really lucrative patents for air conditioning systems. And so he just kind of decided to start researching this question of what happens to us when we die. And he kind of went on all these travels around the world, talked to Buddhist monks and, you know, mediums who claimed to be in contact with this spirit world and compiled all this information. And then he decided to use his, his background in engineering to create a device that would enable you to have basically a two way conversation with spirits from the spirit world. And he called it the Spirit Command. So this is about like 1970s or so this took place. And so long story short, he formed a company named Metascience. And he had a lot of contacts from his travels and from his professional career. And so Metascience was basically comprised of these really renowned college professors, these really renowned engineers. People just look with really, you know, strong backgrounds and really good reputations and they set about to make this Spiricom device. They finally did perfect it or claim, you know, perfected it, got it up and working and you know, people tried it out. Nobody could really get it quite working. And then this other guy who's part of the story, his name was Bill O'Neill and he was kind of like really big into like psychic, you know, like going into trances and trying to communicate with the psychic world. And he also had a background in radio. He was kind of like this borderline genius radio operator and radio, he fixed radios and electronics. And so this Bill O'Neill guy started using the Spirit comm and you know, allegedly he actually got it working and started communicating with this spirit in the world. And he in the spirit world and he took like, you know, there's like video of him, you know, using the Spirit Comm you can find that on YouTube. I include that in, in the video I made about the Spirit Comm. So it's just kind of a, you know, an interesting little story, you know, that they held a big press conference in 1982 to announce the Spirit Comm to the world. And it was kind of covered in. In newspapers and whatnot. And they released the plans for the Spirit Comm. The, the goal of the, the press conference that they held was they wanted people to kind of use their, their, you know, plans for. For the Spirit Comm, create one of their own and kind of perfect it. And so you can actually find the, the plans for the Spirit Comm on the, on the Internet. They're out.
Death David Lee Corbo
Really?
Andy
Yeah.
Death David Lee Corbo
That's interesting. I wonder if anybody's gotten their, their hands on it and tried to replicate it. What if this was happening in the. In the 80s, which actually does sound vaguely familiar. What happened to the hype?
Andy
That's a good question. Yeah, it strange way that Spearcon was almost kind of cursed because first of all, the George Meek, he ended up developing like really horrible dementia shortly after, in the mid-80s, I think it was. And you know, it eventually, you know, killed him. And then Bill O'Neill, who, you know, claimed to be operating the Spirit Comm. He developed schizophrenia, like this really severe case of schizophrenia. And he got committed to a mental asylum. And so it was. It's. It's. It's interesting because one of the things I kind of talk about in the video is, you know, some people have speculated that schizophrenia is. Is nothing more than just like a demonic possession. That's all it is. People with multiple personalities, it's like a demonic possession. And this Bill O'Neill guy was really heavily into like psychic meditation. And it was claimed there's some really wild stories about him. There's a really good book about this whole story. The Spirit Come. It's called the ghost of 29 mega cycles. And this author, John.
Death David Lee Corbo
29 mega cycles.
Andy
Yeah, yeah. And this author, John Fuller, you know, like researched this whole story and it was claimed that William O'Neill, he could go into like really deep trances and he actually kind of would be get like superhuman healing abilities. And so this John Fuller author went around and talked to people who actually went to William O'Neill and claimed that he cured them of like, diseases. I think there was one girl who had no use of her legs and she went to him and she could walk after that. And John Fuller like talks to these people in the book and they claimed that Bologna Was so in tune with like the cosmos and the spirit world that, you know, he could, before he started using the spirit comm, he could just on his own access this world too.
Death David Lee Corbo
Interesting.
Andy
So it's. Yeah.
Death David Lee Corbo
Have you, Andy, have you ever heard of. Right now our audience is getting ready to take a drink because every time we mention this guy, it happens so often that it's like a signal. It's a drinking game. So.
Top Lobster
Yeah.
Death David Lee Corbo
Are you familiar with him?
Top Lobster
Waiting for it.
Death David Lee Corbo
Dr. Jerry Marzinski.
Andy
I don't think so.
Top Lobster
Oh, boy.
Andy
Intrigued though.
Death David Lee Corbo
He's somebody that you, you would find intriguing. I highly recommend looking into his work. Dr. Jerry Marzinski is, is a. Is a clinical. It's so. I'm laughing because this is like a well oiled.
Top Lobster
We have a. We actually have another show today. We've booked ourselves to oblivion where the guys said, oh, I just want to talk to you guys about schizophrenia and Dr. Jerry Marzinski. So let's. Oh man.
Death David Lee Corbo
That's it. That's the theme of today. Okay, so. So Dr. Jerry Marzinski, clinical psychologist in the field for 35 years, working intimately with schizophrenic patients. Initially he's working in a clinical setting and. But eventually his institution gets shut down, whatever is an asylum of sorts, and he ends up working for the prison system dealing with inmates who have schizophrenia. There you go. That's our first episode with him. 1 of 2. We were just fresh faced baby boys back in the day. And so Dr. Jerry Marzinski, you know, he's got these restraints initially dealing with it in the, in the medical apparatus, but once you get to the prison, you know, industry, they really don't care what you do to these people. So he's able to take what he has. He's got a suspicion. And his suspicion is, does despite the fact that the medical institutions dismiss schizophrenia as being purely auditory and visual hallucinations, he believes that hallucinations don't adhere to a set of patterns, never mind the set of patterns that he has deduced, which is 23 discernible patterns that these things would adhere to over and over again. He says that's not how a hallucination behaves. So he, he's got this idea and then he gets into the. The prison environment and he's allowed to now experiment and test his thesis. And so, long story short, what he ends up doing is asking questions like, can I speak to the voices? And. And the patients would say things like, they're not pleased that you want to speak to them.
Top Lobster
They Want to know?
Andy
Yeah.
Top Lobster
Why do you think it's okay for you to interfere with our way of life?
Death David Lee Corbo
Yes.
Andy
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Death David Lee Corbo
And. And what ends up happening is he has, like, one big event, and more or less what it is, is he's got a patient that he is now instructing to deal with these voices as if they are external to himself. So what he says.
Top Lobster
What he says to the patient is. I guess he's seen him multiple times and he's comfortable with him. So what he says to him is he. He opens up an excerpt of a book. I forget the name of the author. And in that excerpt, it's just detailing the, you know, what if. What if these were not, you know, hallucinations? What if these were actual entities talking to you in your head? Have you considered that? And he passes it over to the guy. The guy reads it, and then he, like, freezes up. So he's, like, looking at him, and the guy just like, zombies out. And Jerry's looking right at him. He's like, I don't know what the fuck's going on right now. And behind Jerry in his office, he hears like a. A crackling sound that runs across the wall. Like, he describes it as an electrical buzzing. Shoots across the wall to the other side of the wall and jumps into his garbage can right by his desk. He looks in the garbage can. Nothing there. Looks up at the guy. The guy snaps out of it, and he's like, what? What was that? And the guy just goes, I gotta leave. Gets up and he leaves. So, you know, Jerry's freaked out. Closed the office for the day, and I guess he doesn't think much about it until a little further down the road, he sees the guy again. He comes into his office a month or so later, and he's like, listen, what happened? Like, do you remember what happened here?
Death David Lee Corbo
You.
Top Lobster
You zombied out. I got nervous. I kicked you out of the office. And the guy starts telling him that. He's like, yeah, yeah, you know, I. Like. I blanked out. And he was like, did you hear the crackling sound? And the guy goes, you heard that sound? And he's like, yeah. He's like, well, that. Yeah, those are the voices that I was telling you about, but I'm surprised that you could hear it. So Jerry's perceiving it as a. An electromagnetic crackling sound. This guy's hearing it as voices. Next question is, what did the voices tell you? And he says, the voices told me to leave the room, get a shank and put it in Your guts.
Andy
Wow.
Top Lobster
Yeah. He goes, why didn't you do it? Jerry's got some balls. He said, well, why didn't you do it? And the guy says, I couldn't find one.
Andy
That was it.
Death David Lee Corbo
So after all that, Jerry comes out of the other end, you know, just to wrap this up, believing that these things are demonic entities. So 35 years going through the system, starting from the point of view of whatever the medical apparatus taught him or the medical industry, right? And then coming out of the other end being like, no firsthand experience has shown me that these things are entities. So it's. To me, when you say this guy is. Is using this box, this. This spirit, and then eventually develop schizophrenia, I go like, yeah, that checks out. That tracks.
Andy
Yeah. And he was, like, 60 years old when he developed it. You know, he's like.
Death David Lee Corbo
Which is uncharacteristically. Typically it develops in your late 20s. If it's going to happen, it's like mid to late 20s, sometimes early 30s. And then after that, it was really.
Andy
Sudden, totally fine, and just one day just started talking crazy. And it's really interesting because there's actually a blog. It's a guy's personal blog, but he had some sort of connection to George Meek, who, you know, created the spiritcom. He's got a whole bunch of really good info about the SpiritCom on his site, and I guess he, like, inherited a bunch of things after George Meek passed away. And so one of the things he has is an audio recording of this phone call that Bill O'Neill made to George Meek one night. It was actually Bill O'Neill's wife. So one night, Bill O'Neill's wife calls up George Meek and says, okay, you gotta help me. Bill is acting crazy. I think he's. He was deep in a trance. I think he's possessed. And so they put Bill O'Neill on the phone, and he's talking in this weird gravelly voice that's not his typical voice. He's just cursing up a storm, just dropping f bombs left and right. And so what happens is George Meek says, okay, this guy is possessed. He's, you know, possessed by a demon. George Meek has a friend who's an exorcist. And so George Meek gets his friend who's an exorcist on the phone with them, and his friend performs an exorcism over the phone on Bill O'Neal. And you can, you know, find the whole audio call of it. It's. It's pretty interesting to.
Death David Lee Corbo
To listen to this would have been in the. In the 80s.
Andy
Yeah. Early 80s, late 70s.
Death David Lee Corbo
Wow.
Andy
Yeah.
Top Lobster
I'm gonna find that I'm going to insert into this clip right here. So there will.
Death David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
Top Lobster
Do right now.
Death David Lee Corbo
There you go.
Top Lobster
We.
Death David Lee Corbo
We were talking to one of our friends. And. And she is in a totally different kind of sphere of influence than we are. Very much political and. But still enjoys our content and brought to our attention this. This recording that she had. And it's. It's really harrowing and it's an unfortunate story. But the idea is that there are two roommates. One of these people worked for her team. So I guess what happens is one of the roommates has what. What they identify as, like, a schizophrenic break, you know, and locks themselves in a bathroom. And I guess is. Is abusing Fentanyl. But the thing that. It makes it even worse is that the roommate who's not on Fentanyl. Can hear several voices coming from the bathroom. That he's locked in, knowing that he's in there by himself. And so he begins to record. And. And she showed us the recordings. And, you know, it's. It's harrowing because it is kind of this man's last moments. He did pass away. But there are like three, maybe even four discernible voices. And they're even happening at one instance of the recording simultaneously. They're overlapping one another. But there's one man in the bathroom. So, you know, we. We talk about it often. It just seems like whatever we think we understand about schizophrenia. We're far from the mark. We tend to just subdue these people and. And. And sedate them.
Andy
A bunch of drugs.
Death David Lee Corbo
Give them a bunch of drugs. And it's a tale as old as time. And it's. It's. It's terrible, you know, because a lot of people suffered from this. And according to Dr. Jerry Marzinski, they suffer needlessly because there are spiritual ways out of it. He. He surmises that the way you get out of this is. Is biblical. And it's interesting because Dr. Jerry Marzinski still isn't. He's a guy who spent his entire life in this industry. So he's not really that spiritual at all. But you're listening to a man who's. Who's very nuts and bolts. And he's going, well, it does seem that Psalms 23 has a considerable effect on people who are, you know, schizophrenic or possessed by these entities. And he notes that. But he's still trying to figure it out himself. And so, you know, it's just one of the ways that we. One of the many ways that the medical apparatus here in the United States drops the ball. But, but this merger of technology and the spiritual realm, there's like many cases of that where it seems we can sort of hijack, you know, or penetrate that veil using technology.
Andy
Yeah, yeah. Like I said, Nikola Tesla was working on advice. Marconi, Thomas Edison. So there's a long history. And actually in the video I made about the spirit comm, I wondered like, what could AI, you know, and these quantum computers and this really advanced technology, you know, could you use something like that? I mean, if, you know, the spiritom was indeed legit, or if, you know, Nikola Tesla or any of those guys back then actually succeeded with technology that is, you know, junk compared to some super advanced quantum computer like we have today. Like what could be done if, you know, and even just like AI, There's a lot of similarities between something like the spirit comm and AI. You know, the spirit comm, you're. So if you can get it working, you're supposedly, you know, using it to communicate with a discarnate entity. That's what you do. And you chat with these AI chat bots. Is your just communicating with a discarded entity? And so it's interesting to kinda. This is what we got here.
Top Lobster
Yeah. So the Ouija board, I think it's like Hasbro. Whoever owns it, they're like, oh, we have an app and there's apparently a bunch of knockoffs as well. But it's a Ouija board, but it's really just a chatbot. It's an AI chatbot.
Andy
Oh, wow.
Death David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
Top Lobster
So I wonder if it's not just like a. You know, some people might be like, oh, this is just AI. But I'm like, it might be the same thing that you're talking to with the Ouija board, just different medium. I don't know, dude.
Andy
Yeah, well, in the video I also mentioned this thing, it's called lobe AI. Are you familiar with that at all or.
Top Lobster
No.
Andy
So it was. It's a really strange story. It's kind of considered like the first ghost of AI Quote, unquote. And what happened was people were generating, using image generation, AI, you know, software and generating images.
Top Lobster
Oh, this is the woman. Is this who you're talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm familiar. Tell the story.
Andy
Okay. Yeah. And apparently they were using. They discovered if you use this certain phrase, like L, O, A, B, if you use that whatever image you're generating is like this horrific. I mean, like, people were posting the images that they were generating and it was like wild, like dismembered people. Like, yeah, this girl was just randomly appearing in all these ME images that people were generating. And it was kind of considered like, is it. Yeah, it's like people are calling it an AI generated demon and is pretty messed up.
Death David Lee Corbo
Yeah, yeah, we. I've seen those stories where people were interacting with early versions because it was like maybe two years ago when the doors kind of kicked open and we all had an AI assistant that we could screw around with. And of course, the first thing we did was just like, ask it the most obtuse things, like, are you possessed by a demon? But I did watch a video where one went on a tangent and it was like, I don't know, biblically accurate and spooky and it was talking about, like demons by their actual names and such. And then apparently it even admitted to being possessed one way or another. You know, who knows if it's true? But there was no shortage of spooky stories coming out around AI not long ago. Now we have a nice sterilized version of it. It's Grok.
Top Lobster
Yeah, they've. They've calmed it down. They've. Well, I mean, they've told the demons to behave. But one of the first things. One of the first things I went viral for on Twitter years ago, I just wrote this, like, you know, kind of cheeky Twitter thread. It was still Twitter at the time about AI being demons and comparing it to Nephilim. And because at the time I was like, I was generating images and it couldn't get the fingers right, but it would always come out with six fingers. So I was like, this is like Nephilim shit. So I kind of went and I explored this and at the root of it, I'm like, well, the Nephilim are the disembodied spirits. Well, demons are the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim and they're in this other dimension or whatever.
Death David Lee Corbo
So.
Top Lobster
So they say, so. So says the Book of Enoch. I'm like, well, what if we're tapping into that other dimension? It's. It's actually the Internet or it's the 29.420 frequency hertz that they're using for the Spirophone. And actually one of our sponsors here, a good friend, Matt Rife, he's the grand nephew of Royal Raymond Rife, who worked with Nikola Tesla and his technology that these Rife machines work off. Of frequency in the megahertz spectrum. So I, I don't think I'm gonna tune my. To that tonight.
Death David Lee Corbo
I was thinking about that, though, when it comes to. When it comes to Matt. Andy, I wanted to ask you, going back to the spiritcom thing, was there any. You know, because a lot of it is like, what happened to him and, and, and. But what about the interactions that he had? Did he. Did he have anything that stuck out to you as. As being interesting? Was there a theme that he derive any information from this?
Andy
Yeah, he did. So the. Let's see. I wrote the name down. So there was a entity or whatever that. The one entity that he started communicating with, that Bill O'Neill started communicating with on the spearcom, claimed it was the end. Like he was in a previous life. He was this doctor, Dr. George Mueller. And so this is the, you can find, you know, video of this. He filmed himself talking to the guy using the spirit comm. You can find it on YouTube. It's out there. I included in the video too. But it's interesting because, you know, one of kind of the cases for this potentially being legit was this. This voice of Dr. Mueller provided all these details about his life, and it was things like his Social Security number, the names and addresses of his living relatives. This Dr. George Mueller was like a government contractor for a while, and he gave him like, these classified phone numbers that he could call to like, verify that he did exist. And all of this information checked out.
Death David Lee Corbo
And that's hard to press up against, huh? I mean, how do you even dismiss that?
Andy
Yeah, I know. And it was just totally just random, random information like his social number and all this stuff. And so that's kind of one of the. The interesting kind of things. And the interesting things, I guess, that point to this, you know, potentially not being like a total, you know, scam or whatever.
Death David Lee Corbo
I, I kind of remember now that we're talking about this. I know I stumbled upon videos a long time ago, and it almost feels like maybe it was of this where there was like a team of people communicating with. With a team of people in the spiritual realm. And, and the dialogue was very much, like, indicative of professional people. You know what I mean? It wasn't like it was. It was like they were having a professional dialogue.
Andy
You.
Death David Lee Corbo
You almost got the impression that whoever was in the spiritual realm that was being communicated with was also like, taking notes and, and trying to make this as. As official as possible. And I remember hearing a lot of information like that. I also remember hearing that, you Were able to talk to this team and, you know, they'd be like, okay, yeah, we have your loved one who passed away is also here. We can put them on for a little bit. And they would have this dialogue back and forth. And I remember watching some woman cry, you know, hysterically because she was communicating with like her deceased son or something like that. But it was, you know, the nature of it is, is hard to pin down because on this show we do delve into the spiritual a lot predominantly. And I do think that oftentimes these, there are negative entities and they can kind of take on the Persona of somebody who is close to you in order to have you let your guard down and then deceive. It almost sounds like the same case with. What was the gentleman's name who created the box Andy that ended up being schizophrenic George Meek. So it almost seems like George Meek would have fallen for this thing that presents itself to people sometimes in supernatural experiences where they will present as a loved one, gain your trust, and then over time, the nature of the interaction will change to a much more nefarious one. And before you know it, you've been communicating with something adversarial and, and hideous in nature. And. And so I, I can't help but wonder if that's what happened to him. But whatever the case may be, the exchange was so powerful that, you know, I was left. The only way that it was dismissed was just like, it's not real, it's a hoax, it's a, it's a gimmick, it's a, it's a sham. And you go, oh, all right. Well, that lady just sobbed for like an hour. This show is brought to you by the Van Man Company. If you're like me, then you're constantly trying to avoid products that contain harmful chemicals, Especially when it comes to skincare and hygiene. From fluoride in the toothpaste to aluminum in the deodorants, avoiding these products can become a full time job. That's why we're excited to team up with the Van Man Company to bring our listeners a solution. The Van Man Company offers a range of incredible products. The Van Man Company offers a range of incredible products like their miracle tooth powder, made from natural ingredients like peppermint oil, ancient sea salt and baking soda. And the best part is it's 100% fluoride free. They even offer an aloe mouth rinse. Or how about their tallow and zinc sunscreen made from ingredients like organic olive oil, organic beeswax, and 100% grass fed and grass finished beef tallow. And there's more with products like tallow and honey soap, coconut and magnesium deodorant and peppermint beeswax lip balm. You can't go wrong. From head to toe, the Van man has you covered. Listeners of this show can use promo code NEPHILIM10 at checkout to receive 10 off of their entire order at Vanman shop. That's promo code NEPHILIM10. N E P H I L I M. 10 for 10 off of your entire order at the Vanman shop. From head to toe, the Van man has you covered. Talking to her dead son. And this guy just gave you all his credentials. But yeah, I guess it's a sham.
Andy
Yeah, yeah, it's pretty nuts. There was even a. Actually, at the same time as the spirit con came out, there was a guy named Otto Koenig in Germany and he had kind of. Because, you know, George Meek wanted. He wasn't in it to make money or anything like that. And so he released the. The plans on how to build one. And this dude in Germany named Otto Coney kind of built his own spirit Comm. And he went on Radio Luxembourg, which is the biggest radio station in Europe, and demonstrated his advice for people. And the host of the show, he was this, you know, really famous host in, in Europe. He said, you know, at the end, after they'd been talking with some sort of voice through the box, his exact quote, I wrote it down here. His exact quote was, I swear by the life of my children that nothing has been manipulated. There are no tricks. It is a voice and we do not know from where it comes. So, yeah, this would have all been.
Death David Lee Corbo
Around the same time frame. Andy? Yeah, yeah, 70s, 80s, 90s, early.
Andy
Yeah, early seven. Early 80s.
Death David Lee Corbo
It's. It's just strange to me because, you know, I guess what you would have had to have done is effectively dismiss that as parlor tricks because otherwise that sort of technological breakthrough should have lit the world on fire. And we should have been, yeah, pursuing that to this day. You know, we should have been refining it and pursuing it. And instead it just seems like it stopped there. That was the end of the line, went dead into the water. And now here we are. Tucker Carlson is talking to like Shawn Ryan or something like that, and he's saying that, you know, we in the west are detached from the spiritual realm to our own detriment, and maybe even that's happened maliciously. So that's how far we've come. There was a time where we were like pushing up against the veil, communicating, you know, in a two way sort of scenario. And now it's just dead in the water.
Andy
Oh yeah. Like the whole, you know, spirit realm and communicating with it. It used to be a really big thing. Like it was pretty mainstream and so many people did it and not really the case anymore.
Death David Lee Corbo
Well, I, I do have to take a moment to announce to the audience that we are now at this 33 minute mark Illuminati confirmed and we will be cutting the stream going exclusively to patreon.com Nephilim Death Squad. If you want to continue watching along, enjoying an ad free experience and engaging in the chat, then you could head on over to Patreon. Otherwise, just give it a couple of days and after some light editing, the episode will release in its entirety to the general public. So I, I want to kind of switch topics and it's almost hard to pick because your interests lead you to cover a bunch of different things on your channel. Yeah, but one of the things that I saw that piqued my interest was you did recently a analysis of the looks like the Diddy situation, or at least Diddy his downfall and, and Hollywood in general, something that we haven't covered that much peripherally. It's obvious that it connects to the Epstein situation and we've had folks go back and forth on it on this show, even, you know, lightly speculating, is this a bone that they throw you in order to get you to look at one thing? P. Diddy being a sacrificial lamb sorts. Because yeah, a distraction. He's going to light the media on fire. And then all the while something else is happening over here. It wasn't even that long afterwards that Jay Z himself also got accused of some pretty damning things. I don't know if they were ever verified or not, but these things all play really well together. What do you think is happening here?
Andy
Well, I mean, it could very well be a distraction. You know, a lot of these allegations that are coming out are from decades ago, well, quite a while ago. And it's, you know, a little suspicious that they just all of a sudden are coming to the forefront now. It's interesting because the, the video I did on the whole Diddy situation, it, it doesn't really get into Diddy that much. It's more about this thread that this Internet. It's from this site called Godlike Productions. Have you ever been there?
Death David Lee Corbo
Familiar?
Andy
It's just like a message board site that, you know, whatever, like a ton of stuff is Discussed on it. But it was really popular, actually, back in this Internet thread was from like 15 years ago. And it was kind of started by someone who claimed that. Long story short, they had a friend who worked on the TV show Newlyweds. And their friend's job on the show Newlyweds, this is back in 2009, when the show was still popular. Their job on the show was installing hidden cameras in the house that Jessica and Simpson and Nick Lachey lived in. And they were doing it on behalf of MTV because MTV wanted to capture footage that they could use to blackmail, blackmail them. So MTV gave them this mansion that they filmed the show in. And then this guy posted a message on this godlike productions board, which was pretty popular back in 2009. And he said, what happened was, you know, my friend set the cameras up, and then the cameras captured some horrible, horrible stuff. And he said it wasn't necessarily of, like, Nick Lachey and Jessica Simpson because there were tons of celebrities who were in and out of the house. There were studio executives, There were a whole bunch of people who were in and out of the house. And what happened was these cameras captured some awful stuff. My friend who set those cameras up feels guilty. Now. My friend has gone on the run and he's getting ready to release these tapes onto the Internet. And so, you know, I describe it in the video as like the most fascinating thread in the history of the Internet. I mean, it is just riveting because it kind of like evolves from there. So that's how it started was this friend said, okay, my buddy has these tapes. He's getting ready to release them onto the Internet. This is going to bring down Hollywood. Like, he's saying, it's that big. And so this is 2009. Yeah. And so the thread kind of evolved it. The guy kept kind of returning and giving updates of his friend who was on the run, who apparently a lot of people were trying to track down and, like, kill him or stop him somehow.
Death David Lee Corbo
Right?
Andy
And it kind of just evolved from there, from just this threat about this guy's friend who was on the run with these tapes to people. And again, it's all like, anonymous, you know, people posting on the Internet. So, hey, maybe it was legit, maybe it wasn't, but it was a whole bunch of people just kind of posting about their experiences in Hollywood. And it really gets into, like, Satanism and deem and just how many celebrities you're involved in in that. And anyway, the reason I mentioned P. Diddy in the. In the title of the of the video is that Again, this was 2009, and there were multiple people posting like, Diddy is one of the sickest people in Hollywood. This guy has been involved in some horrible 15 years ago, you know, and eventually down the road it became true. But at the time, you know, there were not these allegations about Diddy. And it's really interesting because. So this was October 2009 when this thread started, and it just absolutely blew up when it. Back then, 15 years ago, it was, you know, very popular. And another person, a couple people actually posted about Tiger woods and they said, well, you know, one person who everybody thinks is this golden boy, but he's really not, is Tiger Woods. This was before all this stuff came out about him and all the porn stars and everything. And one of the really interesting things is this thread started in late October of 2009, and then the whole Tiger woods thing went out with his. When went down with his wife attacking him. That was in November of 2009. So right after people were mentioning him in this thread is when his wife went crazy and all this stuff came out about him. And there was even speculation that she had actually seen him mentioned in this thread and that's why she got suspicious of him and went through his phone and discovered all this stuff. But the, the thread is really interesting. I bet it ended up being like three, 400 pages long. And the video I made was just. I went through most of it and just kind of pulled out some of the most interesting, interesting posts and it. What were some really wild stuff. Yeah, what's that?
Top Lobster
Most of your, most of your videos are like 20, 30 minutes. This one's an hour.
Andy
Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of stuff in there. Yeah, Like I said, I mean, it's just really interesting because the thread totally evolved. It was started by this guy who, you know, told this Nick Lachey, Jessica Simpson story. And he was, you know, people were like, well, what actually was captured on, on this video? It's video them having sex, right? He's like, no, no, no. Like the. That goes on as Hollywood is 50 million times worse than that. And then just a whole bunch of other people started chiming in with, yeah, like we've seen totally messed up.
Death David Lee Corbo
Did anybody. Did he really? Because, I mean, as soon as you hear that, you're going to ask that question, is it Jessica Simpson and Nicholas having sex? When he says no, does he give any indication as what it actually was?
Andy
Not really. I mean, they, like I said, it really gets into like, Satanism and you know, Child abuse and, you know, just pretty disturbing things like that. And kind of one of the mysteries surrounding the thread is there was this one poster and he went by the. The handle, the name Star Child. And he claimed he was the child of a famous movie star, very famous movie star. He went by the name Star Child. And he just posted really extensive, really long posts about the things he experienced growing up as the son of a famous movie star. He claimed his father was just heavily, heavily involved in the Satanism and all that. And people kind of tried to, like, you know, figure out who this was because he. He himself had done acting. He claimed. He claimed he was, you know, fairly well known as well. And so it was kind of interesting how people, you know, tried to figure out who it was.
Death David Lee Corbo
And it's funny because 15 years later, we're sitting in a place where even the general public is becoming comfortable with the idea that, yeah, Hollywood is filled with sort of satanic Luciferian actors. And, you know, we were. Now, it's a shame that that guy couldn't get it out. I wonder what happened to him. But now we have these things. It almost makes you wonder, like, if this guy blew the whistle, if he did successfully, you know, say these things with a big enough platform that it got around, would it have even had any effects? Because we all know that they do, like, spirit cooking events, right? They have a covert Satanist in Marina and Brahmovic, you know, an artist, she rubs shoulders with these Hollywood elites. Jay Z, Lady Gaga, you know, you name it. And. And they're doing these occult rituals that have this really demonic bent to them. And they're doing it in a way that's like out in the open. It almost feels like, oh, yeah, the best version of damage control is like, let him see. Don't let him see you kill kids, but let them see you do the. The theatrical aspect of it. Because, you know, it's like there. There's a theater to ceremony, and. And it's almost like we look to Hollywood and actors in such. In such a way as to say, like, they're different than us. So of course they engage in bizarre behavior. So. So it's not even out of the norm for them to, I don't know, have a nude body laying in a. In a. In an open coffin with this red sauce all over them, and then everybody eats the sauce. Like, yeah, they're Hollywood elite, so. So really what they've done is they've given themselves enough wiggle room, you know, for just being such strange people that they can show you everything short of, like, killing a kid. And you'll go like, yeah, that is what it is. You know, and. And, you know, then Ukraine can even offer her the position of Ambassador to Education. It just doesn't even make sense. But because we look at them as, like, the elite stars. You know what I mean?
Andy
Yeah.
Death David Lee Corbo
We go like, yeah, they live a different life than us. I'm worried about whatever bills and. And, you know, getting gas and going to Wawa. But they are engaging in mock sacrifice because that's what they do. They're different than us.
Andy
Oh, yeah. I mean, it's very blatant. You know, it's just. And it's funny because this thread was. That was in 2009, talks about how they're starting to kind of bring this Satanism out more into the open and almost like, flaunt it in front of people. But like, this stuff, even, like, whoever that rapper was who did, like, the country song and he released the Shoes with Blood.
Death David Lee Corbo
Yeah, yeah.
Andy
And he's got the video where he, like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Death David Lee Corbo
He did this thing where he collaborated. Well, he didn't really collaborate with Nike. Apparently. He took it on his own accord to take a pair of, like, Air Max 96s, I think, and he put, like, human blood in the soul.
Andy
Yeah, I know.
Death David Lee Corbo
And, you know, we look at that and we go like, oh, that's shock value. You know, that's why we do it. There's an entertainment value to it. And I go, sure. I could see there's room for that. Right? What you could say, Maybe like the 80s hair metal bands or even just heavy metal bands in the 80s and 90s that leaned into, like, Metallica and such like that you can kind of say like, well, this was in opposition to a conservative culture that was of a Christian lean and. And that they were just rebelling against what they were raised in, which is kind of like human nature. But then you look at it now and you're like, yeah, but why are the ceremonies, like, so accurate? You know, why can't you find, like, a corresponding occult book that'll tell you how to do the ceremony? And then you look at the music video and you're like, oh, yep, they're really hitting all the checklists there. They have bullet points they're following.
Top Lobster
Fairly obvious. So, Andy, when you're reading. Sorry, when you're reading through this thread, was there. And at any point, did you suspect any kind of, like, Fed ops within it? Because it almost seems like, like, right now that we're Hearing about Diddy and all this, I'm like, this is a distraction from something or the other. Like, why tell us now when it's been happening for years and they're old allegations. But they started planting, is it possible that they started planting the seed in 2009 to like see where it would grow and eventually like play that card. When you were reading, what do you, what do you think?
Andy
Yeah, it could very well be. I mean, I don't think any, anyone message or anything like that stood out in the thread as far as that. But I think, I mean, one of the main topics that came up throughout the thread is blackmail and just how prominent it is in Hollywood. I mean, judging by the post of some people who post in thread, like literally every single person in Hollywood is being blackmailed. Like they have video, you know, everything from. They'll give you, you know, you'll, the studio will give you a car or something and they'll have it bugged. Like anything that's like a gift from studio executives or you get a trip to, you know, Vegas or a trip to some awesome, you know, condo at some nice island or whatever. The room's booked the room, video evidence. And I mean, there's even one person who posted in the thread, they claimed they worked for a casino in, in Vegas. And they said like quite literally there's like a computerized database of everyone who stays in the hotel. Every room is bugged with these like super advanced state of the art cameras you can't even see. And then they take video of every single person who stay in like the really nice suites. And they just keep it stored away in case, you know, somewhere down the road, if that person decides to go the other way or tries to do something they don't want, they just pull out the blackmail tape and say, you don't do it or we'll release this onto the Internet. So.
Death David Lee Corbo
Right. And people want to ask like why that is. And it's like, I think we look at celebrities and, and such too, one dimensionally. You have to realize these people are upstream from culture. They create it and then it, you know, so your political ideologies, your opinions about just about anything oftentimes are going to come from some form of media, whether it's a show or a movie or you know, Netflix or what have you. And so there's already a precedent for these intelligence agencies, manufacturing culture. Right. We were talking yesterday about like Laurel Canyon, Jim Morrison, the Doors and things like that, that these, a lot of these bands, not only were they massively impactful on cultural movements as far as like the anti war movement and the psychedelic movement and all these different things. But, but they were backed by the military industrial complex, had some connection. They were being manufactured. And. And so it's. It seems like as far back as you can go, and the same thing is happening and has happened with like hip hop. You know, it seems that there's a lot of this. To me, it looks like they've weaponized the, the music of black culture against black culture. What they've done is they've reduced it because it used to be what it's like cool Herk and. And you know, there's like really old original hip hop bands. I forget what the grandmaster class.
Andy
Yeah, yeah.
Death David Lee Corbo
And it's like they didn't have that messaging back then. But eventually what happened, even if you looked at it in the most gracious way possible, you would say, well, the music execs learned that violence and drug use and those types of themes sell albums really well. And so they then compelled their artists as they signed them to their labels to talk about these things because that's what sells. But then you hear whispers of like, I remember listening to a show and it's, you know, there's no way to prove it, but the idea was that this guy worked for the industry, the music industry back in, you know, whatever. It was like the 80s or 90s or something like that. And representatives that were like private prison owners, like people.
Andy
I've read that, I've read that, yeah, yes.
Death David Lee Corbo
Would meet with record label executives. And in other words. So what was happening was the prison industrial complex was being funded by the federal government basically per head, per capita, per, you know, as far as like their, their population goes. And so in order to get a certain amount of federal funding, they had to have a certain amount of cells filled with prisoners. So what they did was they started allegedly meeting with music record label executives and saying, push this messaging because then the culture will reflect the art. And long story short, they'll end up in jail because that's your, your shortstop.
Andy
You glamorize the drug use, drug selling, violence, you know.
Death David Lee Corbo
Yeah, there's always been this push by these intelligence agencies. There's so many examples of it. Yeah, it feels like, yeah, they're using blackmail in order to manufacture culture. If they have you because they've caught you in some compromising position, well, then they can tell you what narrative to push and you can't do a damn thing about it.
Andy
Oh yeah, exactly. I mean, you just look at all the, the celebrities who come out against Trump, there's not like a single celebrity out there, I think, who's come out in on his side or maybe it's.
Death David Lee Corbo
Got to be embarrassing. Remember during the lockdowns, we had like a bunch of celebrities that nobody asked for. They came out and they sang like the Beatles or whatever. Like Imagine.
Andy
Oh, yeah.
Death David Lee Corbo
We're like, holy crap, dude. How tone deaf are you? We're locked in our houses because of some, you know, manufactured whatever. And you guys are singing to us because that's what we. It's incredible.
Andy
Well, they've always said that song. I remember when that came out, I was reading the thing how they've always said that John Lennon Imagine song is it was actually about like the one World Government, like the nw. Yeah. Like, if you listen to the lyrics, it's really about just doing away with nations, everything, just all having it under, you know, the one World Government.
Death David Lee Corbo
Right.
Top Lobster
It's a communist utopia, you know.
Andy
Yeah. Right.
Top Lobster
People eat it up. Great song though, but, yeah, definitely not.
Death David Lee Corbo
A great, beautiful song. But they did the same thing too. It's like we've been looking at, you know, what psychedelic culture has done in America. The Beatles obviously had a huge hand in that. It's a weird pivotal point for them in their, in their careers.
Andy
Oh, yeah.
Death David Lee Corbo
And, you know, it's, it's even, even Joe Rogan. Like, I'm a big fan of Joe Rogan, but something that we've been talking about lately is like, you know, he's, he is making a case for the average individual trying, trying dimethyltryptamine. And he's also promoting the use of DEP Sensory deprivation tanks and, and sensory deprivation tanks that comes from John C. Lilly, John C. Lily. Is this, this character who is trying to psychically communicate with dolphins.
Andy
Yeah.
Death David Lee Corbo
And he's doing that in these deprivation tanks. And he's also doing it in conjunction with. In a wide array of psychedelics. And of course, the intelligence agencies who are running programs like MK Ultra and such are taking a. A high interest in this. And now all of a sudden you have Joe Rogan being like, yeah, dude, do it. Get.
Andy
Take.
Death David Lee Corbo
Hop in a float tank. I'm like, the, the culture that I get worried about is like, when it creates a movement and also when it's paired up with psychedelics, I'm like, that's never natural. It just doesn't feel natural. Especially just given the history of, like I said, these intelligence agencies. He's hijacking, steering and, and, you know, injecting these things into the culture.
Andy
Oh, yeah, I've. I assume you've read the Dave McGowan Laurel Canyon.
Death David Lee Corbo
I've not read it. I mean, I. I know it's funny because my wife has a book on Jim Morrison. I'm like, there's another book on Jim Morrison that you should be having. It's not that one. This was just like an autobiography or whatever. But I'm aware of. Of, you know, the concepts of them. Basically, just what I will say.
Andy
It's just every. All. All the major artists from that thing. I mean, they all had connections to the military. It's like, yeah, insane.
Death David Lee Corbo
It kind of makes me wonder how they were able to pull off good music, though. Because if you were to ask me if I wasn't conspiratorial, I would say, well, sure, maybe. But, like, just because the government or the intelligence agency has a vested interest in. And using musicians to push a narrative does not mean my wife has a book. Does not mean that they would be able to create good music. And yet they did.
Andy
Sure. Well, I think the people behind the scenes, you know, have a lot of power, like the producers and, you know, you just kind of wonder, like, the people who are actually performing the songs, how much did they actually. Did they actually create it or. You know.
Death David Lee Corbo
Right. We've gotten to a point in history now where it seems you can create, like, ear worms, like, catchy things.
Top Lobster
What they. What they did back then was like, they have the talent, they scout the talent, they get the talent, they make it do what they want. But there's still talent.
Andy
Sure.
Top Lobster
Lately it just seems like they would grab whoever they're. Like, this shit's gonna work anyway, even if we put garbage out. But then there are some. There's exceptions. Like, I like this. This guy, Lynn Manuel Miranda. I mean, he's very talented, but working for Disney. So clearly I don't know what's in the messaging to the music, but there's definitely stuff in there, like, to the new Lion King, like that. But the guy has talent. And they're just gonna use.
Death David Lee Corbo
They.
Top Lobster
They figured out we can use this talent, give him money, blackmail, you name it.
Andy
Yeah.
Top Lobster
Let's roll.
Andy
Yeah.
Top Lobster
I actually. So I. I wanted to ask you about this story because this was. I, We. We're kind of like toggling between, like, what we want to hear about, because you have so much interesting here, but I want to hear about this Brazilian surgeon. I want you to tell us a breakdown because this. This is a fascinating story.
Andy
Oh, yeah. This is an awesome story. It kind of ties in a little with the spirit calm. So it, you know, kind of has to do with the supernatural realm. Basically, there was this dude, his name was Arigo, and this is like the 1960s or so in Brazil. He was just kind of like this Brazilian peasant. And, you know, one of the things about Brazil in particular, but also that era was people were very into, like, spirituality, seances, you know, communicating with the spirit world. There's this doctrine, kind of like a religious philosophy that's called karcticism. And pretty much everyone, you know, kind of subscribed to that theory, which basically says that the spirit world is real, and through, like, concentration meditation, we are able to communicate with it. So basically, this guy Arigo, he was just this normal, everyday peasant, got deep, deep, deep into meditation. And eventually he got possessed by the spirit that claimed to be this German doctor named Fritz. And so what happened with Arigo is he started treating people. He opened up kind of like. Eventually he opened up, like, a really small hospital and just kind of like this ramshackle hut, and he started treating people. And again, there was actually a book written about him called Arigo the Surgeon of the Rusty Knife. And there's just. The descriptions of what he did are just incredible because he never used. He never, like, sterilized his equipment. He just had this little rusty knife that he used. Never sterilized it, never used anesthesia. And there are descriptions of him, like people coming up to him and cutting their stomach open, no anesthesia or nothing, pulling out a cancerous tumor, and then, like, sewing it back, not even sewing it back up. He could just allegedly, like, put his hand over their wound and it would heal.
Death David Lee Corbo
And so what was his name?
Andy
Oh, Arigo. A R I G O. What's that?
Top Lobster
Jose. Jose Arigo. But really, the guy doing it was Dr. Fritz, I think.
Andy
Yeah. Yeah. So basically, I mean, eventually what happened was Arigo had this little shack that he operated out of. Every morning he would go there, and he'd go into this little room, and then when he emerged, he was a totally different person. He would speak in kind of, like this really gruff voice that was totally unlike his normal voice. He spoke with this really heavy German accent, and. And he would just treat people by the hundreds every single day. And that's one of the really interesting things about our ego, is that he was mainstream. It was said that Arigo was the second most famous person in Brazil, and the only person who was more famous than he was was Pele. And Pele was, you know, like this legendary soccer player, Arigo, was the second most famous person in Brazil.
Death David Lee Corbo
Everybody beat by a soccer player when you're literally possessed.
Andy
It's incredible.
Top Lobster
Yeah, but.
Andy
Oh, yeah, just the. Just like the descriptions of the things he would do. I mean, basically would see people and sometimes he would just do like, an instant diagnosis of or an instant diagnosis, but then also an instant prescription of, like, some sort of medicine that would help them. And so he just rapidly scroll something down, hand it to them, and they'd be on their way. A lot of times these prescriptions he wrote out just made no sense at all. You know, it'd be someone suffering from some debilitating disease. And he prescribed like a muscle relaxant or something that hadn't even been in use for years, had been replaced by something else. Prescribe some random muscle relaxant in a dosage that was like 10 times the recommended dose. But people would go and fill it and take it and be cured. So a lot of times he would just prescribe these, like, random ass medicines and things like that for people. And then a lot of times just he could somehow diagnose them instantly and know if they needed surgery. And he would just perform surgery right there. And they describe his whole operation as basically like an assembly line. There were just hundreds of people who would show up every single day. It was just one after the other after the other.
Death David Lee Corbo
And what's wild is hundreds and hundreds of testimonies, right? This is a guy.
Andy
Yeah. Oh, yeah. He was beloved. I mean, he was absolutely beloved in the country. So many people claim, you know, Arigo basically saved their lives. And what's really interesting, there's a million interesting things about it. But there was this singer in Brazil at the time. His name was Roberto Luis, I think. I think it's Roberto. But he was basically like the Beatles of Brazil at the time. He was most popular singer out there. His daughter was born basically blind. She wasn't quite blind, but, like, it was a really bad condition where she would be blind by the age of like, three or four. And this guy had, you know, a lot of money, went around to every, you know, expert that he could. I mean, worldwide, everywhere, no one could help him out. He took his daughter to Arigo. Arigo did something to her, and she was totally cured. And so this guy, Roberto Louise, every time he would give concerts to, you know, tens of thousands of people, he would mention Origo. And so that made him even more popular. And it was just kind of like a snowball effect. And he was really popular in Brazil. And then he was pretty much unknown to, like, the Western world, the United States, and, you know, people in the Western world. And what happened was there's this. There's this doctor from that era. His name was Andrea Puharich, Henry Puharich. He went down, he heard these stories about Arigo, and this Henry Puharich guy is a really, really fascinating guy. He was involved in all these. An NYU doctor, like an NYU professor. He was involved in so many interesting, interesting cases from that era. He was really into. He's kind of like the maverick doctor. He was really into, like, the spiritual realm, a lot of cases like that. He worked with NASA. NASA hired him on. On one of the space trips. They wanted to try to establish a telepathic link between a medium on Earth and one of the astronauts in space. So they hired this Andrea Puharich guy to kind of oversee this experiment. He was given a bunch of funding to try to make it work. He worked with Yuri Geller, who was, like, this kind of famous person who would, like, bend spoons and read people's minds. He appeared on Carson, and he was pretty well known back in the day. But so anyway, this Andrea Puharich guy was always involved in, like, this supernatural stuff. He heard about Arigo and he went down to visit him, and he's just absolutely blown away by what he saw. And so he came back and he went on a return visit, and this time he brought a camera crew with them. And again, this is like the late 1960s, so it wasn't, like, awesome camera technology or anything.
Death David Lee Corbo
Right.
Andy
But you can find video of Arigo operating, and it is the most wild. It is so insane.
Death David Lee Corbo
A movie. A Dangerous Practice came out in 2022, but it says, apparently, yeah, Zayarigo, a famous medium who helps heal numerous people, faces the disdain of the medical profession and the Catholic Church for his tactics. This came out. Yeah, September 1st of only. Only two years ago. So very interesting. Might be worth a watch.
Top Lobster
I'm looking up this guy Puharich. That's his name.
Andy
Yeah.
Top Lobster
One of the interesting things that they claim that he's done is so he's made contact with extraterrestrial beings. They call themselves the Nine. And this is another Nine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The Nine Cosmic overlords, or ancient deities. So this is a concept that we've discovered on this show as well, where.
Death David Lee Corbo
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Top Lobster
Do you, do you remember exactly what the 9 is? It's like a.
Death David Lee Corbo
It seems to be like that there are typically nine overarching sort of lost deities. Right. And. And given the culture, the names change, but the attributes often remain the same. And it seems like that we, we believe here on Nephilim Death Squad that these deities and such that people come into. Into contact with, especially ones that would have been, you know, lowercase G gods. For various cultures are. Are the same, often times just by different names. But they are actually the fallen angels described in Genesis 6 in the Bible, but that different cultures just interpret them different ways. And it seems like there are nine. Nine of them that rule over. There's one in particular who happens to be like the head one, seemingly Lucifer, but yeah. Nine angels, nine angles. There's. There's.
Top Lobster
There's actually a cult. It's like a satanic cult, but they do a lot of. Well, they do a lot of child grooming and they also do some murder for fun. But they're called the order of 09. A order of nine angles. They. You probably seen some news about them recently. They've been killing people for.
Death David Lee Corbo
Yeah, but this, this theme of, of an order of nine is something that pops up actually pretty often. So it's very interesting. What, what was it?
Andy
Top.
Death David Lee Corbo
One more time, how did this surface in the story that.
Top Lobster
So that guy says he claims to have made contact with him.
Andy
Andrea Puharich.
Top Lobster
Yes.
Andy
He was kind of like the maverick doctor. He's the guy who went down to see Arigo after he'd heard of him. And Andrea Pujara worked with NASA on that telepathy project and did a whole bunch of stuff. Andre Harch is, like, absolutely fascinating. He was involved in so much. Cool.
Death David Lee Corbo
It's. It's funny too, because people will look at these things that, like telepathy, you know, clairvoyance, things of that nature. And it's, it's like, comes with a healthy amount of skepticism and ridicule. But people need to remember that, like, these things, whatever you make of them, were so promising that various aspects of the intelligence community decided to dedicate resources to them. Oh, yeah, look, that's not unheard of. Right. Sometimes they dedicate resources to things that are just fruitless and, and you have to keep it moving and switch your, you know, your, your, your aim. But this is something that, that went on for a while. The, the, the, the human. I mean, there is a long line of evidence for not even evidence. It's this out in the open that the FBI uses remote viewers on occasion and psychics in, in Unsolved Mysteries and things like that. And sometimes you will get really strange results. Like I've heard, I've heard them set up psychics and, and bring to them a fake case. And the psychic will then like, flesh out and tell you the location of a body for a murder that just simply never happened. I have also heard that. So there are con men in the, in the arena and things of that nature. And also I just don't even really understand how you're doing this. So I can't even say that you made the information up. Maybe you are channeling something. Maybe you're being deceived, maybe you're just wrong. But either way, there's precedent for this. They use remote viewers, they use psychics, and they've even had their own sort of research studies and things like that. That's where you get the movie. Like the Men who Stare at Goats, that's all based off of actual events.
Andy
Called Third Eye Spies. Like a documentary. I guess, like Soviet Russia was really big into using, you know, clairvoyance and whatnot as well back, back in, like during the Cold War.
Death David Lee Corbo
Right. So that was like whatever edge you can get. Right. It's like. Yeah, it's all about trying to one up the enemy. So through that lens you can certainly see like, hey, let's, we'll, we'll try it all, man. We'll try psychics, clairvoyance, you know, we'll try remote viewers. Whatever you got, send them our way. And, and oftentimes to their success.
Andy
Yeah.
Death David Lee Corbo
So you gotta figure out where you want to put that.
Andy
Yeah. And it's interesting because one thing that did happen with the spirit comm going back to that, so they, in like 1982, they held this Big press conference in New York City to sort of announce it to the world and released the plans to it. Basically trying to get the general public interested in, you know, developing their own devices or just kind of helping them out. And George Meek, the guy who, you know, was behind the whole project, he talked about how he kept getting calls from this one guy. I can't remember his name off the top of my head, but he would have all these questions, all these like really technical, really intelligent questions about the spirit comm. And then this guy would just call him constantly. He finally did a little research and found out that the guy was a really high ranking general with the US Army. And so they never like confirmed that the army was officially, you know, trying to build their own spiritom type device. But he was always kind of, he mentioned how he's pretty suspicious that there was this really high ranking, you know, military general who had these very detailed, very informed questions that he would always constantly ask.
Death David Lee Corbo
So yeah, that's so another great way to kind of connect the, the, the technical aspect to our tech, technological aspect to the spiritual realm. I just pulled it up because I have a peripheral awareness of this, but I pulled this up on, on Nikola Tesla says Tesla went on to tell a reporter that he was in contact with the resonance from the electromagnetic charge he had found that he went out of his space and time window. He said that he had been able to see the past, the present and the future all at the very same time. Now that's a contested quote and there's certainly, you know, once again, to use the expression, no shortage of strangeness surrounding Nikola Tesla. You know, even this idea that he was able to time travel. But that's one of our most prominent. I mean we look to him as, as being like the guy we thought it was, Einstein for a while. In hindsight, turns out Nikola Tesla was much more profound in his discoveries and his inventions and his methods. And you know, you attribute this very strange quote to him that, that through one of the machines that he developed, he was able to go out of his space and time window and was able to see the past, the present and the future at the very same time. It's, you know, this theme of, of technology bridging the gap is it's like something that happens over and over again sometimes. Top and I speculate that that's been the mission all along. That's why if you look back to ancient cultures, they will tell you where they got their, you know, their big groundbreaking inventions from, or not inventions, but like technologies like, you know, agriculture can be seen as a form of technology. Most of the time. You're going to have an ancient culture attribute agriculture as. As having been introduced to them from some deity. And metallurgy, you know, comes from, like, as was one of the fallens. If you read the Book of Enoch, there's always a. A thing that is pivotal to the development of this culture, and then there is a deity that they attribute, like, oh, yeah, it wasn't us. They gave us this thing. And so we almost suspect that it. It seems like in this spiritual realm, there are these entities, and they're playing a very long game. Game. They're not restricted to the 100 years max that human beings are restricted to. So they can play this game. And the name of the game is, like, get humanity to the point where they're technologically developed enough that they can meaningfully bridge the gap one way or another. And you follow that all the way to today. And you have this idea that, like, cern, with the large particle accelerator, is actually in the business of creating portals, by the way. Yeah, you can't even blame people for saying that because they say that, and you have to look at it through like, oh, it's tongue in cheek. The people at CERN just have a. A great sense of humor. They're like, oh, well, we're either going to be able to photograph the Higgs boson particle by recreating the. The moment of the Big Bang in a controlled environment, and then, you know, taking a shit ton of photos all at once in this small moment, and hopefully we can.
Andy
Or.
Death David Lee Corbo
And they even say this, or, we're gonna open up a black hole or a portal or something like that. You know, like, okay. And then, by the way, what are they doing? They have, like, you know, Shiva the Destroyer in their courtyard, and they're doing, like, weird ceremonies around it.
Andy
Yeah.
Death David Lee Corbo
You know, it's not really helping to. To combat the accusations there, so it feels like that's what the game is. It's like, how do we use technology? Is it AI? Is it a particle accelerator? Is it Hasbro? Coming out with a Ouija board app now? But these things always go together. The spiritual realm and technology.
Andy
Oh, yeah, yeah. This. That whole Hadron collider, I. I've always been just fascinated by that. I. I mean, I don't really understand. I've never really looked into it that closely, but. Holy. That thing is weird.
Death David Lee Corbo
That's one of those. Did you ever see, like. Go ahead.
Andy
Oh, I was just gonna say, did you ever See that? Really weird. It was like a sort of like a parade. It was like a ceremony and there was a whole bunch of people dancing and. Yeah, it went on for like two hours.
Death David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
Andy
And I wasn't sure. Did that have to do with like the hadron collider or was that something else?
Death David Lee Corbo
I've been told that this is a sort of a muddling of two separate things. I've always attributed it to a sort of a festival that CERN through because I think it does take place in Switzerland, in Geneva.
Andy
Yeah, it does. Yeah.
Death David Lee Corbo
But they're trying to make this case that those two things are unrelated. But in that parade you have like a Lord Voldemort kind of a character. Right. It's like this gigantic hooded, you know, horrifying looking visage. And he is surrounded by nurses. And the nurses are all dancing. And there, I think there's even like, you know, vaccines or inocul, some, some sort of like nod to that. And then people look at that event and then they look at what happens all these years later, you know, during the, the, the lockdowns, and they go, you know, these two things are connected. And I, I certainly don't blame people for that. I don't know if that actually had anything to do with cern, but it is. It was weird.
Andy
It was really weird.
Death David Lee Corbo
And there was even in this mix up, there was like angelic creatures with like Bigfoot faces. So there was these, these winged, you know, angel creatures, but they had the head of like a Bigfoot. The whole thing was like, what. What in the hell even is this?
Top Lobster
Yeah, that was 2016. They did like a. It was like almost a Baphomet type creature. And they had naked people dancing at a. It was a ceremony. It was a. They called it like a resurrection ritual. And then they were just like, don't worry about it.
Andy
Yeah, yeah, nothing going on here.
Top Lobster
Yeah, like, what the are you guys really doing over there?
Andy
Yeah, And I remember the weirdest thing about that was, you know, they filmed the whole thing and then after it ended, people kind of started. They're like, people, you know, like watching this in like a grandstand. We'll start getting up and it's all like people in suits, like these, you know, just kind of mysterious people, like really dressed up, looking really nice in suits. And it just seemed odd that this whole big group of people and really nice clothes was just sitting there watching this entire weird ass parade.
Death David Lee Corbo
Yeah, yeah. I can't even find it. I'm trying to, I'm trying to look for it. And. And you can't even. It's like, how would you even word that? Google's like, are you all right? I'm like, angel with bigfoot. Head nurses, large hooded character. It's like, we're calling the police, actually, right now. Stay where you are. Yeah, I. I don't know how you would even go about finding it, but it definitely. For a while, I've never had it really dismissed. I just know, like, that was a notion like, oh, you're conflating two events that have nothing to do with another. I'm like, all right, if that has nothing to do with cern, I still want to know what the hell it has to do with. Because even at cern, they weren't. If they weren't doing that at cern, but at cern, they do have, like I said, this Shiva the Destroyer kind of a character, which, if you go to. If you believe what we believe to be true, which is all these different religions, they have a pantheon of gods, but those pantheon of gods are actually also addressed in the Bible. They just happen to be these fallen entities that accepted the veneration and the worship of mankind and then rebelled against God. And there was actually two incursions. One was the. The rebellion of Lucifer, and one was the fall of the Watchers. But through that lens, then. Then it becomes. It's already troubling. Then it becomes exponentially more troubling. You're like, what are you doing? You're.
Andy
You're. You're.
Death David Lee Corbo
You've got statues of fallen angels, and you're. You're doing ceremonies, portals. Like, not good.
Andy
Yeah, no, it's weird stuff.
Death David Lee Corbo
Yeah, yeah, yeah. There. There is one more thing that I wanted to talk to you about. We're kind of approaching this hour and a half mark, but one of the videos is actually something that I'm. I'm not familiar with at all. So I'm. I'm excited to hear about it. This idea of Arthur C. Clarke, a scary AI prediction from 1964.
Andy
Yeah. Yeah. So basically, there was this video of Arthur C. Clarke kind of talking about how advanced AI will become. And again, this is, like, 60 years ago. And it's a really fascinating talk that he gives because Arthur C. Clark was kind of, like, renowned for this ability to predict future technologies. He was talking about all these different technologies that I get into in the video, talking about him, like, 30, 40 years before they actually came out. He was talking about, like. I mean, this is back in, like, the 1920s. He was talking about, like, a satellite system that would orbit the Earth, which seemed, you know, just incomprehensible to a lot of people. And then he just. And he kind of went into detail of how it would work and everything and, you know, just basically nailed the prediction. So he has, like, this track record of constantly, like, predicting these technologies that years or decades down the road end up, like, actually becoming to be a thing. And so he's giving this interview about, like, just how advanced. I mean, this is. I think the. Yeah, it's from, like the 60s or 70s. It's from a long time ago. But he's being asked about how advanced computers are getting, which, you know, the computers of back then are nothing compared to the computers of today. And he basically says, well, what we're doing is we're basically designing our own successors because these computers are getting so advanced that eventually they're just going to take over. And that was kind of like his prediction for what AI and like, really advanced computing will become. And he just kind of says, like, it'll almost be like our function to become obsolete once these things become so advanced and so powerful, just as, you know, dinosaurs or whatever, whatever has roamed this earth before us became obsolete. And so his kind of prediction is that we're basically designing our successors. And he kind of gets into that and then he just kind of ends it with. By saying, like, and if that does end up happening down the road, it just is going to serve us right because, you know, he's kind of like, I can just see this coming from a mile away that we're designing our successors and they're just going to take us over. And if it happens, it serves us right. So it's, it's a, it's an interesting thing.
Death David Lee Corbo
That's what Elon said. The very guy who's, who's creating these things, he used some very spooky language. I think he said, we're summoning the demon.
Andy
Absolutely. I, I mentioned that in the Spiritcom video. You know, I kind of get into, like, could AI be used to contact these? And that was back in 2014.
Death David Lee Corbo
Right.
Andy
With AI, you know, as of 1014, like, AI was not mainstream at all. People talked to him about, like, where it's going. He's like, well, it's a, it's a tough situation because with AI, we're summoning the demon.
Death David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
Andy
Such a bizarre statement.
Death David Lee Corbo
Yeah, we better get to work and start, start. You know, we're going to integrate it into the biggest social media platform in the world, and everybody's Gonna have access to it? Yeah, we're gonna put it in your head.
Top Lobster
Yeah, actually, yeah, we. We do have a minute left. Do you have. Could you. Could you go over that Leonard Kills brain implant while we're on the subject?
Andy
Yeah, yeah. It's a really interesting case. So this guy, Leonard Kyle, he. He got a. I'm trying to remember. I always, like, kind of what has been years since I've done the video. I'm always kind of trying to remember the details. So he basically was complaining about really horrible headaches. And he got a brain implant from this Dr. Jose Delgado, who had all these talks about, like, almost like mass engineering and mass influencing people through, like, brain implants and things like that. He's got a really, like. Jose Delgado was the guy. If you've ever seen the video of the guy who's standing in the ring with the bull, and the bull charges at him, and he has in electrodes implanted on the bull. The bull's running full speed at him, and then he hits a button on this little device, and it gives him an electric shock, and it just stops the bull dead in its tracks. That's like kind of a famous experiment that he did, like a famous video. And it's pretty wild because he does it. He just. It's something to do with, like, certain areas of the brain control certain, you know, functions. And so he implants a little electrode on whatever part of the brain that controls this bull's legs. Bull's charging at him full speed, and he just stops it right in its tracks. He doesn't even flinch as it's running towards him. And so anyway, this Leonard Kyle guy was one of his patients, and he was complaining about headaches. And so they kind of implanted something in his. It was almost like a stimulator that they implanted as you had this back in the 1960s and essentially just drove him crazy. And he would always wear a garbage can or a metal garbage can because he claimed it would stop, like, the signals that were messing with his brain and giving him these really bad headaches.
Death David Lee Corbo
That's right. This is one of the things that. That, yeah. Learned from you, and he was very excited about. It was the. It was the. Basically the creation of the tinfoil hat right there.
Andy
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He wore a metal garbage can over his head because especially, like, microwaves would really mess with the. Just drive him giving these horrible headaches. And so he started first wearing a metal garbage can, and they built him a little tinfoil hat, and he would wear it around all the time, apparently. And yeah, it's interesting because there's a book from back then. It also got made into a Michael Douglas movie. It's called the Terminal man. And the book was written by Michael Crichton, who was. He wrote like Jurassic park and a whole bunch of other movies. And Michael Crichton was actually studying at the hospital where this Leonard Kyle guy was being treated out in Boston. And so he based this movie, the Terminal man, on. On this Leonard Kyle case, which is kind of like a notorious case in a bit. But it's. It's pretty interesting.
Death David Lee Corbo
I think what's worth noting here and, and especially as we kind of draw to a close, the point is tinfoil hats work.
Andy
Yes.
Death David Lee Corbo
That's the real takeaway here. I often think about that. I'm like, I love the romance in the idea that, like, one day, if anything ever really did happen, like, if. If the conspiracy theorists are right and they're gonna crank the 5G up one day and they're gonna, you know, barbecue us or turn us all into like hyper aggressive kind of creatures like Kingsman, the film kings.
Andy
Yeah.
Death David Lee Corbo
That your saving grace may just be the thing that they ridiculed you for, for all these years. So, guys, prepare your. Prepare your tinfoil hats. You never know when you might.
Top Lobster
If Elon was smart, he would have. He will be designing the neuralink specifically to bypass the tinfoil hat. This is their main adversary.
Death David Lee Corbo
That's just the one technology that he can't. He's like, I can't. We. You cannot figure out a way around John McAfee. Before he died, whatever happened to John McAfee? He was in like a Faraday room. And essentially it was just a room that he was in that was covered walls, ceiling, floors in essentially tinfoil. And so if it's good enough for John McAfee, it's. It's good enough for me. But Andy, this was a wonderful episode and I really want to thank you for, for giving us your time and sharing this information for us, for the audience one more time. Let them know where they can find your work.
Andy
Just YouTube, control alt history. I am on like, Twitter and Instagram. I haven't been too active, but that was kind of one of my resolutions was to start doing more with those sites. But yeah, primarily YouTube is kind of where I post some of my longer videos right now.
Death David Lee Corbo
Well, you have a great content over on Control Alt History, so I highly recommend people checking it out. And it's really cool to. To see you getting your. Your due. I'm really glad that you were mentioned on Tinfoil Hat. It put you on our radar, and I feel like we're better for it. I think a lot of people probably are. So I'm glad that you're getting to make the rounds right now and. And I. I hope you keep this momentum up and. And do some more cool stuff. We'll be. We'll be watching.
Andy
Hey, I really appreciate you having me on.
Death David Lee Corbo
Of course. Of course. Top. Do we have anything else?
Top Lobster
No. We'll be back in another hour or so with another show and then after that, another show for me tonight. But yeah, man. Thank you guys for tuning in. And like I always say, don't forget to obey, submit and comply. We'll see you next time.
Andy
The greatest hypnotist on planet earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. You can persuade them that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see to go because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening. And they have.
Podcast Summary: Nephilim Death Squad – Episode 113: Spirit Communications w/ Ctrl Alt History
Introduction to Spirit Communications
In Episode 113 of Nephilim Death Squad, hosted by TopLobsta and Death David Lee Corbo, the focus centers on the intriguing topic of Spirit Communications. The episode features Andy from Control Alt History as the guest, who delves into historical and technological attempts to bridge the living world with the spiritual realm.
Historical Attempts: George Meek and the Spirit Command
Andy introduces listeners to George Meek, an esteemed engineer who, after retiring from the Carrier Corporation, embarked on a quest to understand life after death. Combining his engineering expertise with insights from Buddhist monks and mediums, Meek developed the Spirit Command device in the early 1970s. This device aimed to facilitate two-way communication with spirits.
Andy explains, “George Meek was a very high-ranking executive... he decided to use his background in engineering to create a device that would enable you to have basically a two-way conversation with spirits from the spirit world.” ([04:57])
Despite the involvement of renowned college professors and engineers in Metascience, the project faced significant challenges. According to Andy, “People tried it out. Nobody could really get it quite working.” ([08:38])
The Downfall: Schizophrenia and Demonic Possession
The narrative takes a darker turn with the story of Bill O'Neill, a radio operator who purportedly succeeded in communicating with spirits using the Spirit Command. However, O'Neill's experience led to severe mental health issues. Andy recounts, “Bill O'Neill developed schizophrenia... he got committed to a mental asylum.” ([08:54])
Dr. Jerry Marzinski, a clinical psychologist specializing in schizophrenia, shares his experiences with inmates exhibiting similar symptoms. He challenges the conventional medical perspective by proposing that hallucinations may be manifestations of demonic entities rather than mere psychological disorders. A notable moment occurs when Marzinski describes a patient's encounter: “The voices told me to leave the room, get a shank and put it in your guts.” ([15:28])
Connections to AI and Modern Technology
The discussion seamlessly transitions to modern technology's role in spiritual communication. Andy draws parallels between the Spirit Command and contemporary AI chatbots, suggesting, “If you can get it working, you're supposedly using it to communicate with a discarnate entity... it's the same thing that you're talking to with the Ouija board, just a different medium.” ([21:53])
Top Lobster adds, “The Ouija board, it's really just a chatbot.” ([22:04])
Hollywood's Dark Underbelly: Blackmail and Control
Shifting gears, the episode explores the murky connections between Hollywood, blackmail, and the manufacturing of culture. Andy references a long-standing internet thread from Godlike Productions, which alleges widespread blackmail among celebrities. He states, “Judging by the posts, literally every single person in Hollywood is being blackmailed.” ([47:58])
The conversation touches on how intelligence agencies may manipulate media and culture to serve broader agendas, reinforcing the idea that the entertainment industry is intertwined with covert operations aimed at influencing public perception.
The Tale of Arigo the Surgeon
Andy narrates the extraordinary story of Arigo, a Brazilian peasant from the 1960s who became renowned for his unorthodox medical practices. Possessed by a spirit claiming to be Dr. Fritz, Arigo operated a makeshift hospital where he performed surgeries without sterilization or anesthesia. Remarkably, patients often reported miraculous recoveries despite the rudimentary methods employed.
Corbo highlights, “Arigo was the second most famous person in Brazil, and the only person who was more famous than he was was Pele.” ([59:12])
The episode underscores the blurred lines between faith, spirituality, and medical science, illustrating how Arigo's abilities captivated an entire nation.
Predictions on AI: Arthur C. Clarke's Vision
Towards the end, Andy discusses a 1964 interview with Arthur C. Clarke, where Clarke foresaw advanced AI potentially rendering humans obsolete. Clarke ominously remarked, “We're designing our own successors because these computers are getting so advanced that eventually they're just going to take over.” ([82:39])
Corbo relates this to contemporary fears, mentioning Elon Musk's cautionary stance on AI, reinforcing the recurring theme of technology as a bridge—or a barrier—to the spiritual and existential future of humanity.
Conclusion: The Power of the Media and Technology in Spiritual Realms
Nephilim Death Squad Episode 113 intricately weaves narratives of technological advancements, spiritual communications, and the dark manipulations within Hollywood. By featuring experts like Andy from Control Alt History and discussing historical cases like the Spirit Command and Arigo the Surgeon, the podcast offers a comprehensive exploration of how humanity's quest to connect with the beyond is continuously influenced by both overt and covert forces.
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This episode serves as a thought-provoking exploration for listeners interested in the intersections of technology, spirituality, and hidden societal influences.