
The Delphi Murders have captivated and horrified true crime enthusiasts and investigators alike. In this episode, we take a deep dive into the case with Austin Picard, exploring the eerie connections, overlooked details, and the dark underbelly of...
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Austin Picard
All right, brother. I appreciate you guys for having me on, of course. But yeah, if you don't know, I run the Underclass podcast and, and also I have a show with Jose Gallison on, on Tuesdays. Every Tuesday, 9:30 Eastern Time, we run already dead and hey, bro, I'm not a Jew, okay? Everybody thinks because I have a big nose. Who's calling you a Jew?
David Lee Corbo
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Austin Picard
Pull the plug.
David Lee Corbo
I was trying to have a Jew on the show so that we could build relations and finally succeed. I didn't know this was the case.
Austin Picard
Hey, well, I'm sorry, I should have told you guys before, but, yeah, no, clearly I do not have any sort of like special interests where I'm benefiting solely and, and achieving any real success above everyone else, right from Exclusive Man. So, yeah, yeah, obviously I, I am not Jewish. But it's funny though. People do unfortunately make that, make that mischaracterization because my big ass nose. But it's a Roman nose, dude.
Top Lobster
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Austin Picard
So his mind, there's nothing I could do, right? No, but anyway, so, yeah, we do already Dead every Tuesday, 9:30 Eastern Time. It's. It's a good time. Usually we, we try and do a call in portion every, like, around 45 minutes in. And typically we try and have a guest, but you know, half the time we just end up shooting the. But beyond that, we've been running the morning dump. I've been trying to be more consistent, but I did take a week vacation that we had had planned that I want to see my buddy, man, that I hadn't seen in years. And so we ended up having a good time going down to Mexico and. And. But, yeah, it. It was. You know, I will say I was entirely unplugged from the outside world during that time. And it was funny how, like, I had just gone on tfh, right, Because Sam had hit us up. Like I had done already done that Tuesday. And then the next day, all of a sudden, I get a DM, like, 2. 2 in the afternoon. And Sam's like, hey, can you do an emergency podcast? And I'm like, I guess so. Like, you know what I mean? Obviously, I'm gonna jump at that opportunity. And. And so I. I basically just called Jose instantly and saw, like, you know, what his schedule was, see if he could. If we could fit that in, you know? And so then, yeah, he. He asked me, like, what's your number? And I felt like a giddy school girl, dude. Like, I was giving my number out to, like, some boy I wanted. I swear to God, I was so excited. It's hilarious. But no, I got nothing but love for Sam.
David Lee Corbo
Oh, there it is. There's the episode right there. 8:53 PsyOps. Is that. Is that the. Yeah, that's the one that would. Just happened. Yeah, 11 days ago.
Austin Picard
There it is, dude. Good time, man. I love Sam so much.
David Lee Corbo
When is. When is Jose gonna start doing his hair like that again? I want his hair to be. That's a nice. He's got a nice set of hair on him. I'm. I'm advocating right now, let it be known officially on the record, Jose has to bring back that hair.
Top Lobster
It's very out of the white supremacy here. I. I've tried to get him to keep it, but, you know, he's. He's not easy to convince to do anything.
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Austin Picard
That's great, but. Nah, man, it was. It was a good time, but it was, like, perfect timing. But also, it sucked because I couldn't be reliable in my responses whenever, Like, I was hoping to promote the show. But anyway, inside, good problems to have, I guess. Right. That became my mantra. Right. Right. Throughout the trip. But. But it is nice being back. But. But, yeah, so go check out already dead, the morning dumps that Jose and I have been doing as well. Just morning streams. And then, yeah, I'm working on my upcoming solo project for the Underclass podcast, which I'm excited about. Because it's been a little bit too long in between and. And that's going to focus probably entirely on the Fort Bragg murders and the Jeffrey McDonald case, which of course ties in all the hallmarks that seem to consistently resurface with all these different. I would say clandestine operations and private organizations of powerful fraternal influence, you know, that clearly seem to be in. In my mind structuring this. This really. This underground system of. It's almost like functioning as a private intelligence, international private intelligence organization really. And I think that a lot of that comes from directly from Operation Gladio and the ratlines post World War II. Right. And all the stay behind networks that have really achieved a lot of this, you know, like sort of Operation Chaos domestic really just attempting to cause a lot of. More like let's say mass shootings is a huge tool within the concept of. Of. Right. These. Using these private paramilitary organizations and things of that nature, which is a playbook that again is recycled over and over. And so that's. That's once again propping up within the con. The context of. Yeah, Helter Skelter man. It really is like a Manson style murder, which is very interesting considering the. The timing of it all in 1970 and. And you know, 1969 with the Manson murders. Right. So the final death knell in the Summer of Love. Right. In. In reality it's, It's. It seems much more as if of course there are the MK Ultra connections to Manson, but. But there are really what I believe to be direct connections to the Process Church of the Final Judgment. And these, These again a private occult organization that was essentially. It shares so many similarities with Scientology. Again, Robert de Grimston and Marianne McLean de Grimston, who were husband and wife and founded the Process Church. They were members of Scientology and actually personal friends with L. Ron Hubbard and like it would absolutely, you know, the occult connotations there and also direct ties in with intelligence. How many times do we need to see this reoccurrence with Michael Aquino and all these different characters that always seem to be. Again, I had mentioned privately to David that that Aquino himself was stationed at Fort Bragg during the Jeffrey McDonald murders. And so of course that that would be the case. But anyway, I'm not here to talk about.
David Lee Corbo
It does seem like. Well, just on that topic because we're getting into the Delphi murders. If anybody's looked at.
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It's all related as well.
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That's what I'm saying.
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David Lee Corbo
You know. In a loop over and over again. And it amazes me that people don't have the ability to see it. To look up for a second and realize that this is either history repeating itself or at least history rhyming. It's very much the conversation we were just having on the last show. So it is one of those things that connects to a much larger picture. And. And the branches permeate all these different subjects. I'm excited to get into it. But where are we picking up then? Austin in regards to the Delphi murders? Yeah.
Top Lobster
Can we pick up like right at the beginning because. So I did catch your episode on Tinfoil Hat. I wasn't familiar at all with this story. It's one of those. That kind of sneaks under the radar. It just seems like another murder mystery. And it's not my bag that's like a female. But there's a lot more.
Austin Picard
It is.
Top Lobster
Right? It kind of is. Right. They love that they get some.
Austin Picard
My sister knew exactly what it was. It was hilarious actually. 100 I was like I. Because I had no idea about the Delphi murders. And until William Ramsey came on already dead and he introduced me to the Hosanna Church scandal. And I had not been aware of the fact that that was sort of a direct influencing factor within the context of the first season of True Detective with Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson. Dude.
David Lee Corbo
And that was one of the best, like, pieces of. Of media I've ever absorbed. That first season was unbelievable.
Austin Picard
Yeah, I agree, man. I think it's one of the best standalone seasons of all time, honestly. You could put it up there with. With almost anything, I believe, but I very much enjoy also, I think it. It really, the importance and the value of introducing the concept alone to the public, I think is very valuable in itself. And I, I find that within, like, when I watched 8 millimeter with Nicholas Cage, I was like, I had no idea that this had already been introduced into the pop culture con, you know, consciousness. And, and the idea of snuff films. And of course, the perspective coming from 8 millimeter was, was that, you know, it was almost like a myth, right, that snuff films didn't exist. And you just find out within the context of the film how real that criminal underbelly and sadistic organizations truly are and how, you know, well represented they are in these various lines of investigation which consistently overlap. Again, I mentioned the process Church. We're talking the Son of Sam murders with David Berkowitz. We're talking the zodiac killings, the smiley face killers, Jeffrey Dahmer. I mean, all of these. What's the other guy's name from. Oh, Henry Lee Lucas from the Hand of Death cult. I mean, it, It'll. It'll boggle your mind how, how many direct. Just the individuals involved. He was claiming that there were clandestine black sites being, like, in Louisiana and in the swamplands, where basically they were tipped off whenever the military helicopter flights would come over the. The areas. And so they could essentially cover their tracks in more ways than one. And they were inevitably, they had been not only training in manufacturing Manchurian candidates right through. They were practicing blood rituals and they were actually. Even cannibalism was involved. Right. And so they were like, sacrificing members of the cult. They would bring in members of the cult, they would use them and exploit them to commit various murders, various abductions and kidnappings. They were training them in how to conduct kidnappings. And, and, and really a lot of that was for child pornography. You know, purposes of child pornography. Right. And then also, you know, they become an enterprise, clearly. Right. And so it's like it never stops. It all blends together. Right? And and that's the problem, is that people are under the impression that with human trafficking, it's just. Right. It's just moving human bodies across. Right. But no, no, not. Not at all. Right.
David Lee Corbo
Well, you know what it is, Austin? These things, if so from a. An aerial pov, it's like. It seems like these things are not connected. It's. Until you zoom in on them and you realize that they are. But they, despite seeming unconnected, always result in the same thing we're talking about, like, you know, human sacrifice, cannibalism, child sexual exploitation. These things always boil down to those elements, the most sort of treacherous elements that are associated with the. With. With human behavior. And. And then, of course, once you look at them, you realize that there is some massive connective tissue.
Austin Picard
It's.
David Lee Corbo
It's always the name of the game. It always. The worst of the worst always ends in those things.
Austin Picard
Absolutely, brother. And. And what's interesting as well is that I had. Man, I promise you I will not keep doing this. And we'll talk about Delphi, okay? But I swear that what. What I find so interesting is that this Helena Stokely individual who is, like, within the context of the Fort Bragg murders, she was. So, you know Ted Gunderson, obviously, right?
David Lee Corbo
No, I'm not. I. I'm peripherally aware of the name. I don't have an intimate knowledge of Ted Gun.
Austin Picard
Okay, so he. He's basically. He was, you know, very prominent within the FBI. He even was. I believe he ran the LA FBI office actually for a time. But anyway, he. He was essentially forced into retirement and became a PI Right, and was running his own private practice. And so there are a lot of different people who believe that, you know, they question the credibility and the, you know, the honest nature of Ted Gunderson, because clearly he's a fed. But also. So you always have the, you know, is he a limited hangout or is he. Maybe he even has good intentions, but he's being used in some sort of fashion, as Bill Cooper was or something, where he even believed that he was given information that was misinformation so that he would then go public with that information, and it would provide this false misconception to the public, and they would view it as a whistleblower and. Right.
Top Lobster
UFO people back in the day to.
David Lee Corbo
Even Bob Lazar surmised that they may have done that to him.
Austin Picard
Yeah, that's exactly what he said, too, is that he thought that potentially he was shown these, right? These, these. This. What was it? The alien Gray was one of Them.
Top Lobster
Right.
Austin Picard
Which was just absolutely ridiculous. But especially considering Stephen Greer. Oh my God. And his connections to the Rockefellers. But anyway. Yeah. And that, that you trace that all the way back to the Princeton radio project that and, and how Orson Welles and the War of the Worlds broadcast, which was really all psychological operation, you know. But anyway. So what I think though is about Helena Stokely. She had talked about how it resembled and mirrored what David Berkowitz had told Maury Terry back in the day, which was essentially that he had been threatened. So he refused to name names of the members of the coven, the satanic coven that he was a member of who were worshiping not only Lucifer but Moloch and, and writing these various entities who. They were committing, you know, ritual blood sacrifice to an Untermyer park in upstate New York and in Yonkers and, and they.
David Lee Corbo
They had like again, dude, upstate New York. We just as really. Yeah, yeah. On the last episode, what was it? Top. I forgot why it came up. I think.
Top Lobster
So the guy, Ingersoll Lockwood is. I. I don't know if he's from upstate New York but he did spend a lot of time in Saratoga and Austining and a lot of weird. It's just weird occult that goes on up there. MKUltra.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah. And then Aleister Crowley spending time in. In upstate New York doing projects and like upstate New York is weird as.
Top Lobster
It'S fun out there.
Austin Picard
Yeah.
Top Lobster
I mean I have family out there and they're all methods. They're on something.
Austin Picard
Yeah.
Top Lobster
It's a dark place. It's a dark place. It's very cold and there's not much to do. So I guess it leaves the mind up to imagination, you know. And people start to go some dark places there.
Austin Picard
Yeah. The Devil's Cave in Untermeyer used to exist. Now I think they filled it in. But it's a fact like it. It's on record it existed and was an occult gathering point and, and location and. And you know, Detective James Rothstein, he specifically was involved in investigating the process organization and a lot of the pedophilia and different. Various networks that were being. They were exploiting Indian reservations and they have something called the Underground Railroad to try and save some of these kids. It's kind of an. I was entirely unaware it even goes into Canada. But anyway he did a lot of amazing research and investigating into what was happening up there. And they discovered mass graves of. Of Alsatian German shepherd dogs. Which this ties in directly to you know, the Nazi style occultism that was involved with the process doctrine. And they. They very much would practice very similar. Just as far as the ideological system that they used, specifically their doctrine. They would. They would assign a German Shepherd Alsatian puppy to new members. Yes. You would raise the puppy and then sacrifice the puppy as a loyalty test. It was MK Ultra. Yeah, right.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah, I was gonna say mk, but this is also.
Top Lobster
This is much older. This goes back to, I mean, man, maybe even Persian times. This is how they would raise their army. I think they would do this to either eunuchs or members of their army that they adopted from other cultures and places they've conquered. This is not. It's a nothing new under the sun.
David Lee Corbo
I suppose that's what I'm saying. It's like we were exploring all these things and it's like it always. Nothing new under the sun is the. I mean, honestly, that should be put on a T shirt because that is the most common expression that I find myself using every time I hear all these themes repeating just from different angles.
Austin Picard
Yeah, yeah. No, man, it's fascinating stuff, honestly. And. But yeah, I. The. Anyway, that's the ultimate evil. And the Process Church of the Final Judgment is very much, I think, an organization that's international in scope. The. And not only did they influence Manson and the Manson murders, but yeah, they directly were involved in the Jeffrey McDonald case. I'm just figuring out that. Forget the guy's name, but he was an attorney for Jeffrey McDonald. Not only was one of his attorneys inevitably murdered in Philadelphia because they were involved in a nationwide drug trafficking operation. Right. That were. That was coming through the military bases, which I had mentioned. Right. Which is very much a rank contra in that same playbook. But it's Danny Castlero's octopus all day long, honestly, is really what it is. But there's something called the cadaver connection involved at Fort Bragg. Yes. This was something that really drew me in. It was this heroin smuggling operation, and it was involving dead GIs, the coffins of dead GIs. Not only were they providing false bottoms where they were putting heroin from Thailand to illegally traffic into Fort Bragg. Right. Yeah, they were also, man, they were slicing open. They were choosing a lot of the more heavyweight, you know, gis. They were slicing them open and then they were shoving plastic bags filled with heroin into their bodies and sewing them back up and giving them a specific designated tag. Yes. So that the. The, the individuals who were tasked with meeting the coffins at Fort Bragg would know by their numbers that they were given for their ID tags. That was how they would designate which bodies had the heroin inside. And so, yeah, dude, this thing, I.
David Lee Corbo
Mean, that's another theme that, that continually continuously pops up. Right now we're in the middle of the throws with, with the cartel and much of the contention is about the fentanyl crisis here in the United States. But I maintain that the biggest mover of drugs is the very one government that's involved in the war on drugs. It's, it's our own government who is constantly, I mean, you talked about, you know, funding the Iran Contra wars with, with cocaine and everything. And you know, now you're talking about this heroin thing. I've said it before. It's no coincidence that while we're in the throes of an opioid epidemic in the early 2000s were in control of, of 90% of the world's opium fields in Afghanistan, our government is securing and guarding these opium fields. It's, you know, our government does this thing and this isn't a surprise to anybody, but it's like we're going to launch a war on drugs to stop drugs. Meanwhile, the biggest drug dealers in the world, we're going to launch a war against terror. We're going to stop terror. Meanwhile orchestrating all the terrorist attacks. It's, it's right on its face. It's hilarious, honestly.
Top Lobster
Well, this is like, this is Gary Webb stuff. And you know, what happened to him before, before uncovering this. Yeah, it's, it's tragic.
Austin Picard
But Helena Stokely was, was essentially she was a CID informant, criminal informant for the cid, not only for the local Fayetteville, North Carolina police, but for the cid, which is straight up military. That's the army police. Right. So when you're a criminal informant for the CID and you are discovered to have been at a crime scene where, you know, three murders and an unborn baby was also murdered. Right. As far as the Jeffrey McDonald case in this Manson style murder scene, which inevitably this man, Jeffrey McDonald has spent his entire life still in prison. And I believe him to be entirely innocent. And it's been proven at this point. But then the whole reason that the COVID up was necessary was to cover up this massive drug trafficking operation through the military bases domestically in the US not only using the local police, but the army CID to facilitate and distribute all up and down, not only the east coast, you know, from New York to Miami, but all the way to the west coast. So this was proven. And you, you have members of the, you know, mps getting arrested for drug trafficking and when they were willing to Talk. Two shots to the back of the head. Worst case of suicide you've ever seen. Right? Like that was what was being done. And. And so not at all surprised that Danny Castlero ended up dead when he's over here, you know, looking into what was being done through the Cabazon Indian Reservation. You talk about the cartels, dude. They were flying in Mexican nationals to cook methamphetamine on the Cabzon Indian Reservation in North California. Right?
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Austin Picard
It's like they've been doing this for so long, right? And so this is nothing new, as you said. I. I entirely agree with that. And so I should probably get into the Delphi murder stuff.
David Lee Corbo
Let's get into it.
Top Lobster
Before you do that, before you get into the Delphi murders, it's. We're not at the 30 minute preview here yet, but as I said at the top, this is going to be. If you want to keep watching us, you can go to patreon.com backslash backs, backslash, backsplash, Backslash.
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Correct forward slash backslash. You figure it out. We're there. Nephilim Death Squad. And the latest. One of the latest posts will be a link to the behind the scenes to check us out. You just have to join at the free level and you'll be able to get that. But go ahead, go there now because we want to see you in the chat. I see that there's like 100 people in the Rumble Chat and there are, I don't know, a bunch in YouTube. Follow us over there. Join our page. We're doing a lot of work over there.
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But people are so confused. Z Man says, shut up, Top. Nobody wants to pay to listen to you guys. It's like they can't even hear that it's for free. Because people don't do this, Top. People don't just give away stuff for free. It's very jarring and very confusing.
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Austin Picard
Okay, so again, as I was intending to say, William Ramsey introduced me to the Hosanna Church scandal which led me into Delphi because I had no idea how many different similarities and strange synchronicities to that original season of True Detective. And considering that this was in that the crimes happened, the murders took place in 2017, it's clearly some sort of copycat sort of scenario, right? Where this was because it's after the fact. So it's not any sort of influencing motivation for the original first season. But to me it seems very much influenced by that original first season, which I think came out in like 2012. So this is around five years after it had come out. So who knows how recently it could have. But, but also I'm not saying that it was entirely a copycat scenario because knowing the neo pagan belief system that is involved with the Odinism, which we'll get into that as well, because I believe Odinism to have been involved as a key motivating factor in the murders themselves and not at all who is believed to have been the perpetrator and is now, I believe has been given a maximum sentence of 130 years in prison. His name's Richard Allen and I believe he's entirely innocent as well. And I think that the, the way that these cover ups consistently play out, proof almost that like, honestly I, I came into this and I tried to remain objective as much as possible, but when the, when the finer details of the case are so extraordinarily revealing, when you have names, when you have confessions, it's. That's something different. Right? That's all I have to say as far as the details of the case are concerned. And the reason that I'm so convinced at this point that, that Richard Allen is innocent. So the strange synchronicities that I'm referring to, they're regarding the original victim in the opening scenes, a true detective, right? And so this becomes a true to life representation of this insanely unique set of circumstances discovered at the fictional crime scene. And they're almost duplicated in what looks to have been this copycat imitation crime in Deli Indiana, February 13, 2017. So this is the, really, the bodies are found on Valentine's Day. So again, I think this is not outside. I think this is no coincidence there. Also the, the occult connotations to Deli itself are worthy of note, right? I mean the Oracle of Delphi, that alone, you know, I believe holds some sort of value within the context of these Neo pagan belief systems.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah, that was. So the idea of, of the Delphi murders is, is not something that I'm familiar with, but I am familiar with the Oracle of Delphi. And this is where they, they would basically use this. I think it's actually depicted in the film 300. But they'll use usually a young girl, a virgin, and they will have her be the, the middleman between, you know, a priest class and their deity, their God. In this case it would have been Apollon, Apollyon or Apollon. And they found recently, not recently, but there's a cave system beneath, beneath the Oracle Delphi where there's these like noxious gases flowing up through fissions and cracks in the ground. And you know, this, this young girl, this virgin is being exposed to these fumes and going into a state like a different and altered state, like a drug induced state. And this is what's allowing her to channel these entities. So yeah, there's got to be some connection there, right?
Austin Picard
Especially considering they're the staged crime scene, the way their bodies had been, you know, they had been arranged in a very specific manner that in again provides, it's very interesting within the neo pagan structure of the Odinism factor. So, so the original corpse from the True Detective first season, she had also, she had been staged against this tree, right, as if in prayer with her head crowned with deer antlers. And her body was surrounded by these Cajun twig lattice works. And you know, they essentially resembled Cajun bird traps. Right. And, and so then you have this disturbing cryptic triangular, crooked spiral symbol carved into the back of the murder victim, which is of course the exact symbol used by pedophiles to indicate their preference in Little Boys. And I remember in Pizzagate when I covered the Pizza Gate episode, it was long before Pizzagate, man. In 2007, WikiLeaks released the F FBI document detailing the secret code pedophiles used to communicate with each other. I mean, that's for people who, who.
David Lee Corbo
Are skeptical of that, what you've just said, that this spiral is somehow indicative of, of, you know, pedophilia. This is established for a long time. This is something that you can look up. The FBI recognizes these, these symbols. And so yeah, these are. That's not speculation at all.
Austin Picard
No, not at all, man.
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Austin Picard
Mean, at the same time that this happened in 07, the FBI allegedly issued this intelligence bulletin to local police departments that brought the idea of sexual predators using their own symbols to communicate into the spotlight. And the report broke down exactly what the symbols are and what they mean. And law enforcement kept the report internal until it ended up, of course, on WikiLeaks, where the knowledge of the symbols came into public awareness. But the symbols in question, they allow the user to communicate without drawing too much attention, of course, because they're simple enough in design. But the first symbol the FBI explained was the drawing called Boy lover. And this symbol is made by drawing a large triangle around a smaller triangle to signify the man likes younger males. To show that the adult male is a little boy lover. The same symbol is drawn to replicate a child scribble. So it's intentionally misdrawn in like a scribbled way. It's very weird.
David Lee Corbo
Totally nefarious when you see it in every single piece of, of children's entertainment. I mean, like everything, it's all the stuff we used to watch all the way till modern day. It's like, it's. Admittedly, on the surface it looks pretty benign. It was just a scribble. Right. But. But once you have that context. Yeah, it becomes pretty dark.
Austin Picard
Absolutely. Especially considering Best of Pizza. Right, which is right across the street from Comet Ping Pong Pizza in dc. Yeah. And the owner of Best of Pizza also happens to be a fed who's directly involved with overseeing, oh, you know, pedophilia investigations at the entire domestic level in the U.S. like, it's just absolutely insane.
David Lee Corbo
But once again, that goes back to what we said. Right? It's like no matter how disjointed these things seem, when it's evil, the, the, the epitome of it ends in these things. It's, it's sacrifice, child abuse and, and trafficking and, you know, it's, it's all the same.
Austin Picard
Truly, brother, truly. But so that spiral was that crooked triangle, triangular spiral symbol was carved into the back of that original true detective murder victim. But the tragic murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German, they share these shocking similarities. And so their bodies were discovered near the Monan High Bridge Trail, part of the Deli Historic trails. Now you can pull up a map. There's a map on Reddit as well, actually, that I like because it includes the nearby Freemasonic Cemetery, which I had mentioned privately as well, which I had just discovered, that had been so close to the murder scene itself. And so that alone is. Has been suggested to have been where the key perpetrator who abducted the girls would. Would have parked. Right, would have parked and walked from the Freemasonic Cemetery to the Delphi Historic Trails on the Monan High Bridge Trail. And that is where the abduction took place. So it makes a lot of sense because also where the deaths were and where the bodies were found, it looks as if they were killed in a different location. Their bodies were moved to this area and then staged. And that couldn't have been done by one individual, especially this Richard Allen. Right? But these people, for the audience who's.
David Lee Corbo
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Top Lobster
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David Lee Corbo
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Austin Picard
Out to Austin.
David Lee Corbo
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Austin Picard
Oh, you're good, man. So yeah, their, their bodies, the, the murders received extensive media coverage is a point that I should make because it. Basically what had happened was you had all these Internet sleuths who were activated. Right. And as you mentioned before, the female true crime factor involved. Right, which is a very strong factor as far as being represented in the Delphi case. I had no idea how popular it was in the, the conceptual minds of, of, of women in the domestic U.S. it's very interesting how much they appreciate true crime. So occasionally if, if my interests linger into the area of true crime to some degree, you know, I usually always try and introduce the most interesting aspects and threads that, you know, compel me myself. And so personally I always try and fuse in, you know, the occult connotations, the different connections involved, but also try and pin it down to, you know, usually individuals who, who have, I either share dual loyalty involved with intelligence, the intell community and also some sort of private occult organization who are usually typically involved in a lot of these different networks that involve human trafficking which always involves, you know, the abduction of young children. And that's where I'm tying in Delphi. Because what it turns out to have been is I believe that they were seduced into showing up at the Monon High Trail by a potential procurement operation that was being conducted online through Snapchat. And I think that this is a modern example of how these, these kidnappings, abductions and ritual sacrifices can be conducted in real time. But unbeknownst to the vast majority the public, they have no idea how these methods and, and how they're right, they, they kind of reveal themselves. But so before I get too ahead of myself, I should at least like laid out the fundamental foundation of the case itself. And, and so as I said, the reason that the murders were receiving this extensive media coverage was in part due to this video and audio recording that was released by law enforcement that came from German smartphone. So this recorded the individual believed to have been the killer. And Fox59 released this timeline of the disappearance and deaths of Liberty German and Abigail Williams in Delphi. And according to the timeline, at 1:35pm on February 13, 2017, 13 year old Abigail Joyce Williams and 14 year old Liberty Rose Lynn German were dropped off by German's older sister Kelsey on Country Road 300 northeast of the Hoosier Heartland Highway. The girls were hiking on the Monan High Bridge over Deer Creek among woodland in remote Deer Creek Township. At 2:07pm German posted a photo of Williams walking the bridge.
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Austin Picard
After this, they were not heard from again. And in the photo, the clarity is very. It's a very grainy photo. See, far off in the distance is this clearly this male with kind of his face almost seems covered, but he's wearing this, you know, wearing this sort of a golfing hat. Right. But it's. I'll pull up pictures of it in a moment because there are two different. There are two different. What the. Is. What's it called when, when the, the drawing up of the alleged perpetrator. There's a term that is escaping me right now.
David Lee Corbo
Like a police sketch artist.
Austin Picard
Yeah, yeah, the sketch. Yeah, yeah. So there were two different sketches that were revealed to the public. Right. And it's, it's. That is very interesting in itself because of how different the different sketches look. They're entirely different. One is more, you know, sort of a fatter older man and clearly in his 50s, potentially 40s. And, and he's, he's, yeah, he's. He's wearing this golfing hat. And then the other individual sketch is of this very young guy who looks like a Justin Bieber almost. Right. And. And that fits perfectly within the context of the Snapchat profile, which I believe lured the girls to the Monon High Bridge. Because the Snapchat profile, Anthony underscore shots was actually Keegan Klein. Who. This, this guy. Once you, you pull up a picture of him, as I said on TFH the other day, it's the Jimmy Savile effect. You're like, this did it, right? Yes. So that's like the younger individual, right? Now look at that one by Richard Allen, right? Which is. Yes. Yeah. So they claim that's Richard Allen right now, you know, you could potentially see that being a possibility. But here's what I find very interesting.
Top Lobster
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Austin Picard
Dude. Check this out though, because. Can I share my Can I share my screen? Okay. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. Okay, so this is interesting because you look at those two, it's. At the very least, it's a possibility. Right? And I found that much more compelling, especially considering this. Right.
David Lee Corbo
Because there you go.
Top Lobster
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David Lee Corbo
That looks like Thomas.
Austin Picard
Thomas. Right. That's so funny. But essentially, 33 days after the. The murders of Libby and Abby were, apparently, this individual, Brad Holder, was. Was taking this in this picture, as far as the photograph itself was taken of him, clearly, you know, seeming to be promoted within the initiatory process of the freemasonic order. Right. So it's at the very least 33rd degree.
David Lee Corbo
Right. I wonder if that apron is indicative of him being of a 33rd degree. Is. Is that what he graduated to, or is that just part of the ceremonial garb?
Austin Picard
I know that that is my question as well. And, you know, I should at least show you a picture of Anthony shots as well. So look at this.
David Lee Corbo
Really, if it's worth Anything, that guy, 100 looks like a murderer.
Austin Picard
Yeah, he does.
Top Lobster
Yeah.
Austin Picard
Sorry. All right, so this is also interesting. Look at this dude. Oh, my God, chill. That guy right here.
David Lee Corbo
That's an unfortunate.
Austin Picard
Right, so this guy is Keegan Anthony Klein and. Hold on, I need to X out of that. All right, there we go. And it's interesting because it turns out that this guy.
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Oh, my God. And what you see on social media.
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Dude, they have ruined, like, every single potential news website to the point where I can't even go there anymore.
Austin Picard
Okay, you guys, it. Oh, I'm sorry, bro.
Top Lobster
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David Lee Corbo
They literally do that. They make it hard to find the video. You know what, David?
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Austin Picard
There we go.
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Austin Picard
So what I think is. Is the most important is about old Keegan Klein, is that not only was his home raided directly after the. The Delphi murders, but apparently someone involved with his Snapchat profile, which was. Who was responding to the Snapchat profile. I don't even think this is the article that I wanted it to be. Yeah, yeah, hold on. I'll stop sharing that one. But what happened is that he apparently, right after he had his Anthony underscore shots profile on Snapchat, had been communicating with a young girl. This was days after the Delphi murders. Took place. And the Anthony Underscore Shots profile was in communication with the Anth or Libby German. Right. As far as two of the Abigail Williams and Libby German were the two girls who were discovered at Delphi. But what's interesting is that he. This Snapchat profile was also in communication with other young girls, obviously. And within days of the Delphi murders and within hours of the Anthony Underscore Shots profile and Snapchat communicating with this other girl who was nearby the Delphi area, a masked man was spotted outside the window of this girl who was in communication with the Anthony Underscore Shots profile. So essentially proving the point that this is some sort of abduction pipeline and, and abduction operation where these kidnappings are taking place. And, you know, these young girls are being seduced into either providing nude pictures to begin with, which is a lot of it, or they'll also, you know, clearly there. There's other things involved as far as, like, they were actually arranging meeting places, which is another reason why I think that the. The Snapchat picture, which went very public during the. The Delphi murder case, I think that it's very interesting that she was communicating on Snapchat just before she was abducted. That alone raised a red flag for me and made me consider the fact that potentially she had been. The girls had been, you know, lured down to the Monan High Bridge trail and. And for this, you know, purpose of. Of potentially kidnapping and a ritual murder sacrifice which inevitably took place. So, yeah, and it gets far more interesting than. Than this because there. That video that was released, you could hear the voice of the suspect. It was very muffled, but you could hear them say, down the hill. And, and the picture itself is. Is very grainy, as I said. But there's a news conference where all these officials are credited with the source of the audio and imagery to German smartphone. And then they, of course, ask the public if they have any additional information provided to, you know, the authorities. Right. But they essentially are kind of spurring the Internet sleuths at the beginning of all of this. And, and, and so police distributed this composite sketch of someone sought as a person of prime interest in the murders. That sketch was apparently created from eyewitness accounts of the hiker on the Delphi trails on the day the girls vanished. Of course. But there's a new direction in the case on April 22, 2019. So two years after the case, there's still no perpetrator who's been apprehended. Right. And Indiana State Police announced this new direction in the case. And released a new sketch of the suspect that looked entirely different. So you have two years of the original sketch composite sketch being that younger individual, right. Who I believe was mistaken to have been clearly the, the picture that Anthony, that Keegan Klein and Anthony shots the Snapchat profile was using to lure in the young girls, which was like this Justin Bieber type young guy who was.
David Lee Corbo
So that sketch would have only been from the profile picture, not somebody's actual eyewitness account of an individual.
Austin Picard
Exactly like I believe that it didn't seem to have been because no one else saw this young person at the Delphi Historic Trails and they entirely swatched or switched out the sketch, the composite sketch to, you know, completely different looking person who is far older and you know, far larger in weight and, and just again looks entirely different. And so at the very least it's very, it's extremely strange that, you know, this composite sketch would have been out in public circulation for two years and would introduce this new direction in the case and provide this entirely different, you know, police sketch of, you know, which again I'll pull up the picture of this Justin Bieber type, you know, the picture that Keegan Klein was using on the Snapchat profile because he was presenting an entirely different lifestyle to the, to the girls that he was attempting to lure in. Obviously he was showing like this very wealthy lifestyle with all these exotic bars and Right. As if he was, you know, a male model. Was, was the.
David Lee Corbo
But was he ever doing anything with himself in these videos? Like if you're showing all these things, this lavish lifestyle that you're living, there's never like a, like a video, like a selfie video or anything. And, and if not, then the question that I have is, does anybody ever step forward and say like, hey, this guy in the profile picture is strictly just that it's a stolen profile picture. Here is the kid or the dude or the teenager, whatever whose picture they're using. Like this never. This never surfaces at any point.
Austin Picard
No, it does. They, they actually the authorities then, hello, it is Ryan.
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Austin Picard
Do acknowledge the fact that, yes, this was a male model, but he had nothing to do or any affiliation with the Snapchat profile. He apparently, Keegan Klein had just been grabbing these pictures and videos from random users and was then using it for his own, you know, exploit, exploitative purposes on Snapchat in luring the young girls. And so it was proven that that was what he was doing because he was later sentenced to over 40 years for child pornography and admitted in court that he 100 had been, you know, attempting to abduct these young girls. And at least did you know that.
David Lee Corbo
Snapchat has an element in it that you're like constantly sharing with people where you are. So it's almost got like a Google Maps and you can see all of your friends as they move around. You know what I mean? So there's a little, a little, I don't know what you would call it, like a little avatar that represents your friends. You can, I think you could dress it up the way, whichever way you want to dress it up. And then if you, if you do that, your friends at any given time can click on like a, I guess a map and they can see where everybody is and their, their movement in real time, which is like, wow, Snapchat is a, is a. I don't know if it's still around. I think they might have gotten rid of it or maybe that was, maybe that was just the tick tock thing. But Snapchat was, my understanding is it is a platform that's overwhelmingly used by kids. It is like, like, you know how Twitter is, is much more of, of, you know, millennials and, and older, maybe a little bit younger. And then Instagram kind of seems like everybody. Facebook is for like boomers. And then Snapchat is for. I don't even know what generation that's little kids.
Austin Picard
So.
David Lee Corbo
So I don't know how nobody thinks it's problematic. I'm sure there are people who do that. A social media platform that's overwhelmingly geared towards children or else it wouldn't be their favored platform. I'm sure TikTok has taken that over since then, but that it has this element where you can track these people everywhere they go in real time. That seems insane.
Austin Picard
Oh, for sure. Yeah. It reminds me of the Pokemon Go being like clearly a way for you to map, help AI and help the, the Programs themselves like map the land environment and then it was. It's very interesting. But you're providing them with the data they're, you know, that they actually are selling. Right. And so the selling point is, is just the seduction of the user into providing the free data and basically being, you know, exploited as, you know, really just like a third party, you know, employee that has a non paid employee.
David Lee Corbo
Exactly. You think you're having fun catching Bulbasaur, but really you're just walking around doing the job of. Yeah, exactly what it is.
Austin Picard
100. I just shared you the actual article that I intended to pull up in the first place. And this is the one that this by the way, 13WTHR, they were a local Indiana newspaper and they still are and they did a lot of wonderful coverage on the Delphi murders whenever this all. Well, they're still consistently doing good coverage, but it seems like they were some of the only, you know, willing publications or publications willing to, you know, promote any of this alternative theory.
David Lee Corbo
You said this was a place in Indian in Indiana or.
Austin Picard
This is Delphi, Indiana. Yeah.
David Lee Corbo
Wait, where in Indiana?
Austin Picard
Delphi, Indiana. Yeah. Okay, so Delphi is the name of the town itself. But so again this is. Let's see, this was March 28, 2022. So Anthony underscore shots profile connected to another incident just days after Delphi murders. Police have identified another incident involving the fake Anthony Underscore shots profile. This one happened less than a week after the Delphi murders. So the Indianapolis newspaper investigates that thirteen has learned that the connection of the Deli murders to the Anthony Underscore shots fake social media profile started with another incident reported to police just days after the bodies of Libby German and Abby Williams were discovered in February 2017. Police questioned Keegan Klein about the incident during an Aug. 19, 2020 interview. And Klein, he was never charged with the killings, of course, but he has been held in the Miami County Jail. Now, of course, as I mentioned before, he's been sentenced over 40 years in prison for child pornography. And within the context of that trial that he. He admitted publicly that he was using the Snapchat profiles. Not only this one, but another one as well. I forget it sounded more like a female, which was interesting. And that that account had been. I don't know much of the details of that additional account that he was using on Snapchat, but it did sound more like a female, you know, fake front profile. And, and it was allegedly procuring young girls as well, either their nude photos or attempting to arrange meeting places. And so he also said that he would post as soon as they would follow that Snapchat profile, he would post things like a picture of himself and say would you be willing to have sex with my dad? Like a hundred percent. Yeah. And damn. So yeah, over a year and a half now on 30 charges of child pornography and exploitation. Which again he was sentenced later on. But so this is what I thought was interesting is that when he was questioned, apparently they questioned him in the interview about another school aged girl that gave her address, her address to Anthony underscore shots just days after the Delphi murders. Klein knew the girl's family from Galveston, Indiana. The police investigator told Klein, which by the way that factors into the Delphi case because I believe Brad Holder to have been one of the key perpetrators among at least three other people involved in, in the murders of Abigail Williams and, and Libby German and, and he, Brad Holder, his son Logan was dating one of the two girls. And apparently within the context of the Vinlander group and the neo pagan belief system that they were practicing within the Odinism concept, it was sort of like a white supremacist vein involved where they were claiming that, that one of the girls mothers, I forget which. I have the details in my notes but one of the girls mothers had been fraternizing with an African American, some black dude, I guess she was fucking a black guy. And they said that, that this was a. One of the key motivating factors for using or her daughter within the ritual sacrifice as, as a sort of, you know, I can't remember the. It was a blood in, blood out initiatory practice as well. But, but still. Right. It's, it's very interesting. Do you buy that? Do what?
David Lee Corbo
Do you buy that that that's what part of why she was selected?
Austin Picard
I'm not sure. I think that it definitely wasn't the key motivating factor considering the fact that Logan, the son of Brad Holder was dating one of the girls. I think that alone is very strange but would bring her into you know, the, at least into the environment and into the circles in the nexus of, of this Vinland or group which were at the very least looking to acquire targets. Right. As far as victims. And so I believe that Keegan Klein's Snapchat profile, he was just, you know, low hanging fruit that was being utilized as a procurement operation for the, the group. And I think that he, he due to his you know, lack of really his lack of membership, direct exclusive membership to, to the, to the Vinlander organization, I don't think he was a member at all. I think he was just a, a key component within the, the pipeline itself. And so they would just leverage some of these different. Maybe he clearly, I think he was a pedophile. And so I think that maybe you leverage and exploit certain pedophiles or certain individuals who are willing to stoop to that low point of procuring young girls. I'm sure there are, you know, various factors that are motivating them to do this. I'm, I'm sure it's, it's at the very least, financially, right. Like, people don't like to make this point, but it's very lucrative to deal in human trafficking, I would imagine. Right. I mean, it's very lucrative deal in drug trafficking and weapons, you know, trafficking. So why would you. Why would it not be? And this is where you see this resurfacing tactic and these recycled playbooks of. Right. These feds involved or these, these occult members involved in, in these procurement operations or these various networks. Right. And, and it's something that you just consistently witness as, as. So anyway, the point being is that the police investigated that point though, Austin.
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I just heard that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna celebrate it. But it's like everybody knows Disney is state propaganda and then we find out that it's being literally paid for by the state. So you're like, yeah, we got it. But I was trying to make the point that you could defund all you want usaid, whatever. These black operations are going to continue. And unless you stop that, whatever government is operating underneath this government is going to continue unimpeded. There's really not much we can do on the political side to quell that on. On a different side. I don't know, there's some, seems to be some action being taken, but it's going to have to be. I don't know, I don't know how you stop these things because they just seem to continue.
Austin Picard
They do. And, and they're a malignant cancer on all of global society. I mean, honestly, like in every aspect of the cases that I, you know, I don't know what it is that attracts me to some of these, these different, just a lot of the different things that I've covered as far as the episodes that I choose to do it usually and I ride this emotional roller coaster. It's so, so extreme. Right. Within the context of the investigation of just the research in itself. I'll just be sitting there reading for hours these court documents of the most sadistic abuse you could ever imagine. Right? The most vulnerable among us. And man, I just like the fact that so many people in the public. I understand that, you know, ignorance is bliss and. But do you not sort of have some duty, you know, to yourself and your own moral principles to at the very least in. To understand what is out there that you must at least conceptually defend against? Right. Because I think that the underlying issue is that everything is presented as, I believe, false alternatives within this, you know, manufactured misconception that is really, you know, unfortunately, I think a lot of what we're dealing with is oh my God, I, to just close out this, these local news sites because they keep playing, they were playing, they're playing those ads on you 100. But anyway, the, the point being is that, you know, I, I kind of feel as if most people are naive to the level of deception playing out in real time and the, the manufactured social engineering tactics that have really like the ideological subversion alone. Yuri Besmanov is so accurate in his, you know, as far as just being able to kind of, you know, diagnose the overall really we're, we're kind of us. We've been ushering through what, what David Icke says. Right. Occasionally. And I don't really subscribe to all his beliefs of course, but I do like the fact that he's always at least pointed out the gradual tiptoe toward the totalitarian technocratic state. That alone is, is very valuable for people to at least understand It's a possibility and something you might, you might need to be aware of as, as a plausible avenue of, of today's episode.
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David Lee Corbo
But we're in that right now really heavily, right? It's like because we have our based Orange Daddy back in office now, it's like people are galvanized more than ever. And you're talking about whether or not people have a duty to recognize these things and to intervene in some way, shape or form. It's really kind of you want to give hats off to the propaganda machine. You know, give the Devil Is Due. Because it's so sophisticated. We often say on this show, it's like the fact that we're even suspicious.
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Terms and conditions apply of the official narrative is something that's worth a little bit of a congratulations. Just because the machine that's pitted against us, that seeks to keep us, you know, numbed and overburdened by all the stresses of life and then entertained by all sorts of, you know, morally debased, debaucherous, that's constantly being funneled to us on, on Netflix and what have you. There's so much that they've dumped money into the tune of billions, if not trillions of dollars to keep us sedated and complacent and stressed out to the point where we can't reach over to help anybody because we're just trying to stabilize our own life. It's kind of, you know, not. Not what. It's something to behold when you look at this system that's levied against us and you know, yeah, sure, we all have some moral duty to it, but it's not surprising, I don't think to anybody that, that some of us just can't lift our heads up to. You know, you go back to like the. The sort of cliche image of like a single mom working two jobs. It's like that lady's never gonna. And her kids are being raised by the state, they're being raised by public school, they're being raised by the television. They're not going to have a sort of spatial awakening anytime soon. Probably not until adulthood.
Top Lobster
I will say this though, David it is. Speaking of, like, David Ike, it's very annoying. Him, Whitney Webb, other guy, Derek Bros. Hey, whatever. Like, you know, great information from these people, but it's like, yeah, I. I know Elon Musk seems like he probably is the devil. Right now. They're running an organization that's doing an audit on all of my favorite government agencies. How about you just shut the up and stay in UK for a little bit, David? It's.
David Lee Corbo
Yes, it is annoying.
Austin Picard
You know what's really annoying? Yeah.
David Lee Corbo
I'm gonna go off on a little side tangent. The most annoying thing right now about David Icke is all he's doing is bitching that he has been saying things about Reptilians or something, and now somebody else is coming along and they're gaining some, you know, some modicum of. Of sort of fame or renown or whatever off the back of research that he's done. And I'm like, you know what that means, David Ike? It means you used to have something important to say. Now all you do is and moan. That's literally all the dude does is and moan. I'm like, great, thanks for leading the way in the 80s and 90s and early 2000s. And then when the, when the conversation finally gets to the point where it's at the dinner table, all you do, all you contribute is bitching.
Top Lobster
And shout out, shout out to Alex Jones, because that could be Alex Jones, even whatever. He might be a fed, he's probably a government operator, but he's still going. But you're still going, man. So you got to say something about the grind. Like, fucking stop complaining. And also, like with other. Again, I like these people's work. Whitney Webb, Derrick Bros. Have some fucking solutions. It's just complaints all the time. And then when there is a solution, you know, there's like some sort of solution that's posed. It's like, well, we gotta attack it. It's like just, I get it. This is what you do for a living. But like, I don't know, they.
Austin Picard
They. Honestly, a lot of these personalities become almost characters, like characterizations of themselves at one point throughout their. Their success and almost are in this kind of content creation bubble that they can't break out of any longer. And, and that, that must. I. You cannot remain grounded if that is your lifestyle and environment. Right. Like, I just can't. And beyond that, I get, I get exactly what you're saying because I run the risk too often of, of coming off as a black pill and sounding as if, as if I'm as if I'm hopeless and have no right, no, no vision for the future, that that could potentially be a plausible, more positive alternative for just life in general for the mass public. And, and as I have been at least saying, as I'm attempting to, because I, I do very much value Whitney's work, I get exactly what you're saying as far as the presentation in itself and then not just not knowing when you know, to take a more delicate approach. I think even though that's not really what I do, it's still like it's so important to know, you know, that we need to take our victories whenever we can as well. And we have to kind of just point out the fact that at least certain things are changing for at least heading in the right direction. Right. It might not be ultimately the, the end result that we desire specifically individually, but it's, it's at least a, a better alternative to what right we've been presented in the recent past. And that alone is worth at least acknowledging in, in a, in an. Appreciate an appreciative way. And, and, and beyond that, man, there's enough demoralization happening at this point, right? Like within the news cycle itself. And do I need it, do I.
Top Lobster
Need it from people who I think are on my side as well? It's also just the, the tone deaf attitude of, I mean like this is to the Libertarian Party as well, but like these people consider themselves agorists. And at the very least the Libertarian Party got Ross Ulbricht pardoned. You know, by going to the table, understanding where the power is and negotiating there, even though you, they did it kicking and screaming the entire way. Thank God cooler heads prevailed and like, like the adults in the room were able to do something. But it's the same thing with the, the Agarus class. Shout out to Jose Galison, my favorite Agorist, where it's like, I understand. But he's, he's not like this though. He's a lot more sensible. I understand that this might be the end all solution, but you also, you have to understand the way people are thinking now and you're not going to reach people. The MAGA movement is much bigger than what you will ever build because of the attitude that you put towards whatever you're building here. And it's like very hipster ish, but it's like, okay, there's a world that needs to be saved, buddy. So what do we, what are we doing here? Do you want to stay in your little bubble and do black pills or are we Going to try to lie to the people and make it easy but move the world in a way that I'd like to see it a little bit more and I think everybody would like to see it. I think it's autism. Autism is really what it comes down to. We can't get past these things for sure.
Austin Picard
And I think again the over, the overexposure to man, like I was mentioning, the just those sadistic details within the cons, the, you know, the context of a lot of these, the different networks of abuse, like it has an overall impact on, on who you are as a person, on just as far as your emotional state of mind. Right. Like I don't know, more people. I definitely think that some people are clearly more prone to, you know, emotional states, others. But I've always been a very over emotional person, unfortunately. Things definitely resonate with me. But also I think that's what, what really drives me to try and be as honest and objective as possible and try and you know, not misrepresent any really. I, I'm only trying to bring to the table these things that provide a plausible alternative and compelling narrative for me that, that kind of, you know, convinced me otherwise when it comes down to how people really interpret the structure of power itself. And I think that my real goal is, is not to black pill anyone. I'm just saying we should be able to acknowledge our common enemy once and for all. And it's so difficult because, you know, you're dealing with mind manipulators who deal in deception at a, on a daily basis and have just, you know, sophisticated these social engineering techniques and mind control, you know, tools that for, for generations and, and, and, and have really been protectors of the hidden knowledge in many ways with these fraternal organizations, right. Which always underlie the current power structure. And you can point to all these different key advisors from every single presidential administration that just, no matter where they stand on the political spectrum, just seem to be surrounding, you know, all the key political actors in every single administration despite, you know, the direction of policy. So it's just, it is, it is interesting as far as, I think that it's much more valuable to yeah, try and at least spotlight the solution much more often than only, you know, spotlighting the problem. But I do think that, I think that essentially my overall goal has been to really just expose, right, the functionality, the details within the networks and how they kind of operate in real time. And that way we can, let's say the next time this misconception and false narrative is presented to the public, you'll remain far more skeptical. You know, and, and, and, and that.
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You know, whatever people's, you name it. So, so maybe we are on the cusp of a reality. It looks like that. But until we get rid of those aspects, I, I can't see it, man, I, because people are. And as long as we're retarded, it's, it's gonna stay that way.
Austin Picard
Yeah, I, I think when I started this, man, I was really, I felt more isolated than ever in my life, psychologically, morally right, the inverted moral landscape we talk about so often. And I felt zero representation, you know, and, and, and so, but my goal was to not feel as alone, to find like minded people, to find my people. That was my goal. And man, thank God that Sam let me on the show and, and he gave me that opportunity and really opened the door for me. I'm forever grateful to him for that. But that, that alone kind of set the stage for, you know, if you're ready and willing and, and, and disciplined enough within the context of, of your opportunity. Right. I just think that you. What's interesting is that I am achieving that slowly but surely. I'm finding you guys, I'm finding Jose. I'm, you know, all these people who have made my personal, individual experience in life far better than it was just two years ago. Right.
David Lee Corbo
It is, it's an isolating experience to, to wake up to these things, especially when nobody else is. And you know, hats off to you. I mean, I'm in the same boat. I found a community because I spent years talking about these things, much to everybody around me's discontent. You know, nobody wanted to hear about this. In fact, it was, it was such that I actually had to let it go for a couple of years in order to kind of like, okay, I guess nobody's gonna look at this thing with me. Nobody gives a about all these strange things that I'm showing them and all these alarming things that I'm showing them. And so I had to put it on the back burner. But yeah, I mean, we're in some sort of weird conspiracy renaissance. Truly blessed to be sitting in these chairs talking to an audience and talking to other content creators who not only does this resonate with, but they bring their own piece of the puzzle to the table. Certainly is not an atmosphere or a climate that existed, you know, even to your point, like two years ago.
Austin Picard
Yeah, yeah. And my goal was I had, I started because basically it was just I wanted to limit my expectations, my past in recovery, because I've definitely, I had court ordered AA meetings that I had to go to once upon a time. I went through an interesting experience that I deserved and I went through a few consequences that really were necessary for my personal, you know, character. Right. And, and that itself, that drove home the Reality of manage your expectations so you don't end up resent, you know, with premeditated resentment. Right. And, and, and so as just, you know, I mentioned the content creation bubble and, and kind of like playing into your own ego. You see so many people suffering from ego, you know, maniacal behavior. And, and I kind of was forced through recovery to like beat back my ego and, and, and almost over compensate to where now I have like a crisis in confidence every other four hours. I'm like, do I have enough, you know, details within my notes to, to go forward with this, you know, point of view? But, and it's really just trying to make sure I'm prepared, you know. And, and so I over prepare and so it's like I'm working through my character defects on a daily basis, you know. But, but I will say that I value that time in my life because it made me very much, you know, really just work through what I believed my moral, ethical, foundational, core values were. And that alone, I think set me up to at least be able to take advantage of certain opportunities when they come and, and not get in my own way. As, as much as that tends to happen. It's, it's just like my goal was to, if I could introduce just one or two people, a few people I had very limited expectations to, to some of these lines of interest and, and avenues of research, then that's fucking success, man. You know what I mean? Like and, and, and I'm achieving something finally worthwhile, right? Like that's what I was so upset about was I felt no passion in my life. For the first time in a long time. I had no real direction and how.
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That scared the shit out of me man. I mean, right?
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I think you're right, man. I have, you know, members of my own family who are like, yeah, I can't. I can't go there. When you talk about. Right. Certain. Certain things in regard to some of the episodes that I cover, and. And as much as. As much as I hate that, you know, response.
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It's a weird response, dude. I couldn't imagine saying, like, hey, I can't go there. Whatever you tell me. I'm locked in. Go ahead, tell me all the craziest that you possibly can. If you come to me with Scientology, and we're in the. In the. In the. In the. In the blue eye of a cycloptic giant, and I go, okay, keep going, man. What makes you think that I don't have any problems with it at all. But yet that is a notion. I can't go there with you.
Top Lobster
Like what those people that. Because they. When they say that, I think some of them are really genuine. Some of them are pissed off with you because they know you.
David Lee Corbo
You.
Top Lobster
But some of them are like, listen, you'll send me teetering. I can't do this.
David Lee Corbo
I think you send me teetering.
Top Lobster
I think it's their job to then withdraw from any decision making in society because you can't handle your. You're not me and it's fine. You know, we need people to. Yeah, we need people to do. Right. Like there's got to be people making things and building and doing menial things.
Austin Picard
Like, if you have such a delicate sensibility that you can't be overexposed to certain details of reality, then you probably shouldn't have a voice in. Right. The. As far as just any sort of. You bet. In my mind, like if you want to decide the values of your neighbor. And this again, it does play into a sort of libertarian philosophy. But you know, I don't subscribe to any sort of ideological, you know, prison right. Which is. Is what people tend to do is. Is just, you know, construct their own prisons around themselves and then one. Right. And then. And blame the outside world. But in. In reality, I just think that, you know, you. You shouldn't want a voice that will decide the fate of your neighbor if you have zero discipline in. In the realm of. Right. Just identifying the power structure as it exists and currently is structured. Well, guess what? You have to factor in all of these unfortunate realities that you are so delicately, you know, over sensibly, you know, as far as just the delicate sensibility of the average person. It is shocking to me. But it does take. Of course, it's like I have overexposed myself to a lot of things, which has now made it kind of weird when it comes down to, you know, at times I won't have the reaction that I normally would have in the past because I've been overexposed. Right.
Top Lobster
School shooting. I don't care anymore. Like, when I say it on Tower Gang, I mean it. And they're like, have you seen what happened? I'm like, don't.
David Lee Corbo
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Top Lobster
It was a church this time. I'm like, I don't feel anything.
David Lee Corbo
I. I can't speak for Top, but for me it's not. It's not like I'm not sort of tempering that with any negativity. It's not like I don't care what happened. It's like I'm not even remotely surprised. Doesn't. Doesn't at all surprise me. Doesn't. I can't. I barely even skip a beat.
Top Lobster
The, the levers that are meant to be pulled. The political lever levers on, you know, the reaction that they want from me. Like, I can't. It does. It's not developed and it's unfortunate which.
David Lee Corbo
Which it makes for a fun experience because then what I become is the observer of a reality instead of a participant in a reality. And to a degree I am a participant in it. But as far as like this energetic exchange that they're hoping for, which has become overtly clear to me, it's like so many of these rituals or whatever, these big events are meant to lose in one way or another, and I will not participate in that. You'll get no loosh from me, homie, but I will observe. And I think it, it allows for certainly a much more pleasant experience because you don't get emotionally tied up in it, but also a much more interesting experience because then you get to examine the cogs and gears that this, you know, makes this reality up without falling victim to them or being one of them. A sort of a cog in a machine. So, you know, it's, it's, it's not a negative thing. It's not a black pilling thing. It's not like I, I don't care that another school got shot or whatever. Like, it's not really like that. It's just nothing surprises me. I think I've got a decent handle on what this reality is. Not, not a great one. I'm not 100 there, but I've got enough of a handle on it that it's not going to, if I rest my hand on it, behave in a way that's going to make me recoil will.
Austin Picard
Right.
David Lee Corbo
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Austin Picard
That's what I love so much about like the reason that I reached out to like two people and that was it. After I started my podcast and published my first few episodes, it was basically, I reached out to Jose and Sam, which is hilarious, but I don't know why they, they both just resonated with me personally and like when I discovered them. And then for some reason I just felt like we were on similar frequencies, wavelengths. We unders. Like, I don't know what it is, Austin.
David Lee Corbo
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Top Lobster
Yes.
David Lee Corbo
So. So both Sam and Jose strike me as dudes that are just concerned with what the truth is. And they're not going to dig their heels in if you start to lead them towards something that is true just because it doesn't fit with what they originally thought. Sam in in particular is a very genuine dude. He's done all these hours of content. There's no qualms about who he is or any questions. You know who he is. If you watch the show, you know who he is. He's not hiding anything. He can't. He's too retarded to hide anything. And all he gives a about is the truth. That's it. And so there, there is. And I think we're even using the correct word here, like resonates or frequency. Like why? Why do these people resonate with me? Because when you care about the truth.
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You click into kind of a different frequency and you stay there. And anybody else that's on that frequency with you, you can sense when somebody else is just. It doesn't matter. I don't have any baggage. I don't have any unnecessarily. A horse in the race. My horse is the truth. What is the truth? That's what I want to know above all things. So yeah, man, that's. That's the people that you resonate with is the same people that I resonate with. It makes a lot of sense.
Austin Picard
Exactly. And, and, and instead of having the recoil factor and you know, digging your feet in because you can't handle the delicate sensibility aspect of the finer details of things. Well, instead you get excited because there's, there are overlapping connections and threads that tie into all these. So instead you can be excited while talking about mass shootings, which is seriously though.
David Lee Corbo
No, you're right. You're right, you're right. I get excited If I were to talk. But look, if you're going to tell me on the news that there was a mass shooting unmoved, but if you come to me and you're like, yo, you want to talk about some that's weird about this mass shooting, absolutely I do. Thank you so much for offering me such a pleasant experience.
Austin Picard
Exactly. Dude, it's so funny. Like, that's why, I swear, the things that excite me, the details that excite me are, they seem to excite Sam as well. So I love that part whenever we get the chance to have a conversation because I can just throw at him and he gets wide eyed and so excited. And that just like motivates me, you know what I mean?
David Lee Corbo
Like that within that experience there's the experience of the epiphany. That's when you connect like these two things that before were disjointed and it, and it creates a clearer picture and that gets me going. I'm like punching air. And when I watch other people do it too. In fact, my main goal. If you go back and listen to like this recent episode of Inverted World podcast that I did with Shane Cashman yesterday, I've got a real task in front of me. I'm gonna tell you about why an egg is important as a symbol. And it is a drudgery, dude, to ever convince anybody that this egg is important, but also to make it entertainment. When I watch other people, when they have that moment where they go, oh, I see what you see. I'm like, like, that is everything to me. When you get it, when you finally get it. I, I live for those moments. So, yeah, that's. And that's only something that you get if you're pursuing the truth or understanding. Understanding the truth.
Austin Picard
It's.
David Lee Corbo
And it is that moment of understanding that that is what I live for. It's the best.
Austin Picard
Absolutely. And that was, that is my ultimate goal at this moment is creating a comprehensive conceptual, you know, construct for what I think is truly just the fashion of power. As I say, the structure of power itself and how I truly believe the power brokers operate in dc. It's, it's far more than. If this is, again I've mentioned before, it very much seems as if secret fraternal organizations of powerful influence rule the world at a global level. And they have 100% set the infrastructure in place for generations to have this global framework strategically in place to just leverage and exploit all throughout. That. That's why, you know, the, the IMF and the World bank are threatening The President of Belarus border state of Ukraine during, during COVID to implement all these dystopian COVID policies for $950 million. He's being bribed by the IMF and the World bank and he says, fuck you, goes public and then a coup d'etat happens with a bunch of non governmental organizations flooding into his country, attempting to stage a coup d'etat, which then drives him into the arms of Putin a little bit further. And so of course, this is the geopolitical chess match at play at all times that the vast majority of people are unaware of as far as the power dynamics involved. And, and, and so I'm not at all under some sort of, you know, misconception or that, that I'm going to have some ultimate life changing impact on like any sort of grand scale. All I'm attempting to do is outline these things for myself and, and through that process, find the people who tend to agree with me. And we can have, or not, and we can have those conversations. Right?
David Lee Corbo
But as long as it's not like we're all claiming that we're right all the time. But, but there's a lot of things you can do here in this, I don't know, 70, 80, 90 year period that you have, if you're lucky. And I think that none of those things are more admirable or honorable or meaningful than the pursuit of the truth. So regardless of where it leads me or anything like that, it doesn't have to be more of a mission than that. That's what I'm spending my time doing, is trying to understand and trying to find the truth. And you know, if, if I'm a hobo in a, in a dumpster for the rest of my life because of it, well, I mean, you know, I'm gonna die anyway at some point. I'd rather say that I did that. But. We have 10 minutes, Austin, before our next, next show starts, so let's bring it in for a landing. This is an awesome conversation and I really appreciate your time. And, and just, you know, the, the countless hours that I've become comfortable with understanding. You pour into a topic to understand a thing. It's not something that a lot of people do. I'm not one of those people. I take very limited peripheral knowledge and then I go and I espouse, I know nothing about you, everybody.
Top Lobster
This is why when, when you're on Tinfoil Hat, Sam will say things and I encourage people to follow you as well. He'll say things like this, this guy is the Best reacher researcher that, like, we have. And that's. I'm like, dude, because there's a lot of really good ones that he has up there. So if he's saying that, man, that's a. That's another level of compliment, right?
Austin Picard
I have a mantra right now, my brother, and it is thank you, God. That's honestly it. Every moment. Every moment, I feel proud. Thank you, God. That's all. I, like, honestly, I'm trying to center myself at all times, remain grounded, you know, because this is what I. I believe this.
David Lee Corbo
Austin, we were talking earlier about how all the negative stuff at its worst always ends up in the same thing. It's. It's child sacrifice. It's. It's rituals. It's all this crazy trafficking and everything. The other side. And Sam Tripley says this too. It's like, it all leads to the truth. If you care about it, if you're. If you're tenacious and you keep chasing it no matter how long it takes, it's different for everybody. Always leads to God. Always leads to God in spirituality, always. Because you can't ignore that. It's a massive component to what's going on. So one way, you know, pick your poison. Which way, Western man? You're gonna sacrifice these babies and drink them, or are you going to pursue the truth and find out that God is real and then end up thanking him?
Austin Picard
We are in a spiritual battle for your soul. And I think that I've never, like, it's. It's very interesting how much I came into this. I feel closer to God than ever in my life. Right? And, man, I've never been that kind of person that would, like, say these things. It's very interesting. It's not anything I expected, but I feel like there's a divine path. There truly is. And that. That doesn't mean I am, you know, consistently walking that fine path. It's just. I think that it's there to tap into as long as you have good intentions and a pure soul. Like, honestly, like, it truly is. Like, what my mantras become is help my heart to be in the right place. My intentions to be pure, you know, facing and approaching these subjects and topics of interest because the. The consequences that the victims have faced, you know, the consequences of being wrong in regard to some of the allegations as well. Just as far as, you know, just as far as. You never want to just make these false. Like, you know, I would say just when you're considering the ultimate moral consequence of. Of the details in these cases, you have to be so careful. Right. And so I. I attempt to, you know, to really approach with caution and not speak in any sort of certain terms until I feel prepared enough to do so, you know, and. And even then, it's like, this is what I believe due to this evidence that has convinced me. But otherwise, you know, I'll attempt to be entirely honest when I'm purely speculating, but. But I'm sorry that I went so far off from Delphi, but honestly, it's.
David Lee Corbo
Like, no, dude, we just had a conversation with somebody on the previous episode who said something similar, and it's like these things connect and branch out into a much larger picture. You're always going to end up someplace else because it's all part of the same thing.
Top Lobster
And if you're on Nephilim death squad, you're likely going to branch off into whatever, something else. Never. What we intend to talk about.
David Lee Corbo
Never. But we just name these episodes arbitrarily. Like, we just blame David.
Top Lobster
I think it's David's fault. Yeah, it could be my fault. He does this. It's hilarious. But it's. It's me, too.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah. Where can people find you, brother?
Austin Picard
All right, guys, so definitely, yeah, check out the Underclass podcast. And. And, yeah, that's basically anywhere at this point. I'm. I just. As I mentioned, I've. I've transitioned to Spreaker instead of Buzzsprout. But I still. I'm hoping everyone kind of migrates to the Patreon once and for all so I don't have to, uh, you know, keep people as spread out. As far as my supporting members are concerned, it's a little bit more than 100.
David Lee Corbo
I'll accept it.
Austin Picard
It's fine. But yeah, I definitely check out the Patreon, subscribe to the YouTube, subscribe to the Rumble, because I will get the Rumble, you know, up and running as far as my archived, you know, episodes are concerned. They'll. They'll be up at some point, and then. Yeah, other than that, basically. Follow me on Twitter @UnderclassPod or Theater Thug. Awp. And. And at Underclass podcast on Instagram. And yeah, as far as Delphi, go check out. Go check out the William Ramsey interview I did recently. I talked a little more about the FBI's BA Behavioral Analysis Unit, determining that the individuals responsible for the homicides were definitely involved in Nordic beliefs. And that plays into, you know, the Odinist connections. So. And. And then, of course, the pagan symbols and Odinous signatures in the crime scene, which I unfortunately didn't get into today, but it was the goal. But anyway, it does prove out 1000% to. To have far different motivations for that murder scene than. Than the public is aware of. So anyway, the COVID up is in place and, and go check out my content and uh, top. David, I love you guys for real. Like I. I honestly appreciate you guys more than you know, man. So. Well, thanks for sharing influence.
Top Lobster
We're gonna have you back on again soon. And I've been trying to set something up with Jose in the morning. Every time I message him like, hey, you doing a morning dump? He's like, no. The one day I'm not is the one day I ask. And it's been like week after week.
David Lee Corbo
There you go.
Top Lobster
We're gonna figure it out. We'll probably make it a more common thing, whether it's me and David or just me or just David or whatever. But like, we'll, we'll do some stuff, but we gotta. I have five minutes to do some stuff before we get the next guest. We're turning and burning. We're pumping and chumping. We're running, baby. So if you guys like what you saw, stay tuned. And we'll be back in like five minutes. Oh.
David Lee Corbo
Basically gotta tell them what to do. Oh, there you go.
Austin Picard
The greatest hypnotist on planet earth is a oblong box in the corner of the road. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. You can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see to God. Because they'll lack in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening. And they have.
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Podcast Summary: Nephilim Death Squad - Episode 120: The Delphi Murders w/ Austin Picard
Introduction
In Episode 120 of Nephilim Death Squad, hosts TopLobsta Productions—Top Lobster and David Lee Corbo—welcome guest Austin Picard to delve into the chilling case of the Delphi murders. Released on February 12, 2025, this episode explores the intersection of true crime and conspiracy theories through a biblical lens, unveiling deeper layers behind seemingly isolated incidents.
Overview of the Delphi Murders
Background of the Case At the heart of the discussion is the tragic and mysterious Delphi murders that occurred on February 13, 2017, in Delphi, Indiana. The victims, 13-year-old Abigail Joyce Williams and 14-year-old Liberty Rose Lynn German, were hiking when they were abducted and brutally murdered. Austin Picard highlights the unusual lack of resolution in the case, with the perpetrator, Richard Allen, receiving a staggering 130-year sentence despite widespread belief in his innocence.
Connection to Broader Conspiracies Austin emphasizes that the Delphi murders are not an isolated incident but part of a larger, recurring pattern of crimes linked to clandestine operations and occult organizations. He draws parallels to the infamy of the Manson murders and suggests that the killings are influenced by neo-pagan belief systems, specifically Odinism.
Austin Picard [02:31]: "We are being hypnotized by people like newsreaders, politicians, teachers... there is a chasm between what we are told is going on and what is really happening."
Occult and Intelligence Networks
Process Church of the Final Judgment A significant portion of the conversation centers around the Process Church of the Final Judgment, an occult organization with ties to influential intelligence figures. Austin posits that the rituals and murder methodologies employed in the Delphi case mirror those advocated by Renaissance-era cults, indicating a perpetuated cycle of ritualistic violence.
Operation Gladio and MKUltra Connections Picard links the Delphi murders to historical operations like Operation Gladio and MKUltra, suggesting that these covert programs have evolved into modern-day human trafficking and ritual sacrifice networks. He underscores the continuity of these dark practices from post-World War II to present-day scenarios.
Austin Picard [08:22]: "It's nothing new under the sun. These playbooks are recycled over and over, propping up within the context of Helter Skelter man."
Role of Informants and Internal Corruption
Helena Stokely and CID Involvement The discussion delves into the role of Helena Stokely, a criminal informant for the military CID, who was implicated in the Fort Bragg murders. Austin argues that internal corruption within military and law enforcement agencies facilitates these operations, using drug trafficking as a guise to mask more sinister activities like human trafficking and ritual sacrifices.
Austin Picard [27:30]: "Helena Stokely was essentially a CID informant... involved in a nationwide drug trafficking operation through military bases."
Interplay Between Government and Organized Crime David Lee Corbo expands on the notion that the U.S. government is inadvertently or deliberately entwined with drug cartels, exacerbating crises like the opioid epidemic. He criticizes the contradictory stance of launching wars on terror while simultaneously facilitating drug trafficking operations.
David Lee Corbo [26:29]: "It's hilarious... the government is orchestrating terrorist attacks while fighting the war on drugs."
Delphi Murders: A Detailed Analysis
Staged Crime Scene and Symbolism Austin provides an in-depth analysis of the Delphi crime scene, noting the ritualistic placement of the victims' bodies and the use of occult symbols. He highlights the triangular spiral carved into the victims' backs, a symbol recognized by the FBI as indicative of pedophilic communication.
Austin Picard [35:19]: "The triangular spiral symbol carved into the back of the murder victim is the exact symbol used by pedophiles to indicate their preference in Little Boys."
Social Media’s Role in Modern Crimes The episode explores how platforms like Snapchat have become tools for modern-day abduction operations. Austin discusses how the perpetrator used fake profiles to lure victims, manipulating young girls into dangerous encounters.
Austin Picard [57:02]: "Keegan Klein admitted in court that he was using Snapchat profiles to attempt to abduct young girls."
Comparisons to Media Representations Drawing parallels to the first season of True Detective, Austin suggests that real-life crimes like the Delphi murders reflect the fictional narratives depicted in media, serving both as inspiration and as a blueprint for real-world conspiracies.
Austin Picard [14:24]: "The Delphi murders seem influenced by the original first season of True Detective, mirroring its unique set of circumstances."
Community and Personal Reflections
Isolation and Finding Like-Minded Individuals Both hosts reflect on the isolation that often accompanies the pursuit of unconventional truths. Austin shares his journey from feeling isolated to finding a community through podcasts and collaborations, emphasizing the importance of collective effort in uncovering hidden narratives.
Austin Picard [86:17]: "I was really isolated, but starting my podcast allowed me to find like-minded people and open doors that I hadn't imagined."
Spiritual and Moral Imperatives The conversation shifts towards the spiritual battle inherent in uncovering these truths. Austin discusses his personal mantra of gratitude and the importance of maintaining moral integrity while delving into dark and complex subjects.
Austin Picard [109:08]: "I feel closer to God than ever... I center myself to remain grounded because I believe in a divine path."
Conclusion
Episode 120 of Nephilim Death Squad offers a deep dive into the Delphi murders, contextualizing them within a broader framework of occult practices, government corruption, and ongoing conspiracies. Through Austin Picard's detailed analysis and the hosts' critical discussions, listeners are encouraged to question official narratives and seek out hidden connections that reveal a more sinister reality beneath the surface.
Notable Quotes
Austin Picard [02:31]: "We are being hypnotized by people like newsreaders, politicians, teachers... there is a chasm between what we are told is going on and what is really happening."
David Lee Corbo [26:29]: "It's hilarious... the government is orchestrating terrorist attacks while fighting the war on drugs."
Austin Picard [35:19]: "The triangular spiral symbol carved into the back of the murder victim is the exact symbol used by pedophiles to indicate their preference in Little Boys."
Austin Picard [57:02]: "Keegan Klein admitted in court that he was using Snapchat profiles to attempt to abduct young girls."
Austin Picard [109:08]: "I feel closer to God than ever... I center myself to remain grounded because I believe in a divine path."
Further Resources
Austin Picard's Work: Listen to his other podcast, Underclass, and follow him on social media (@UnderclassPod, Theater Thug, AWP) for more insights into true crime and conspiratorial investigations.
Related Episodes: Explore previous episodes of Nephilim Death Squad for more on similar topics, including discussions on MKUltra, Operation Gladio, and the Process Church of the Final Judgment.
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