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142: Lets Get Freaky w/ Tommy Cullum
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Join us for an epic episode as David Lee Corbo (The Raven) and Top Lobsta welcome Tommy Cullum from Let's Get Freaky Podcast! We’re diving deep into the wild world of the paranormal—Bigfoot mysteries, UFO encounters, cryptid sightings, and the eerie...
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David Lee Corbo
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Top Lobster
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Tommy Cullum
Productions we are being hypnotized by people like this. News readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers. We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people. The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely enormous.
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Top Lobster
Oh yeah, dude, there's some Nephilim.
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David Lee Corbo
It's like we all know what's going down, but no one's saying what happened to the home of the brave? They controlling us now when no one's talking about how they made us finally slaves and everybody's just walking around heading the clouds and wanna wake up to a dead in the grave. But then it's too late. We need to be ready to raise up.
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Tommy Cullum
Welcome to the end of days.
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David Lee Corbo
Everybody is slaves. Only some are aware that the and releasing poison in the hand. Welcome back ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad. I am David Lee Corbo, AKA the Raven that is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation. Before we get into today's guest, I would like to remind all of our live viewers that this is a 30 minute preview only. Sometime around the 30 minute mark, we'll be going live exclusively to patreon.com backslash Nephilim Death Squad where you can enjoy an ad free viewing, experience early access to the episode before the general public and you can do so for free. That's right, guys. You can sign up for a seven day free trial, try to absorb as much content as you possibly can in seven days and then get out of there before we bill you. But guess what, guys, the backlog of content on patreon.com backslash Nephilim Death Squad is huge. So you simply will not be able to get through the content and you will end up paying us. Head on over to Patreon, guys, and support the show. It is physically impossible.
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Top Lobster
In seven days there are going to be something like 300 hours and I think we have more than that up there already. So you just simply cannot consume it. But I invite you to try. Please.
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David Lee Corbo
Do I? Yes, that's it. I invite you to try. Joining us today is Tommy Cullum. Tommy, for the audience who may not be familiar with your work, let them know where they can find you and what it is that you focus on.
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Tommy Cullum
Hey guys, thank you for having me. I'm excited to be here. Can I just say, the coolest intro I've ever seen. That got me hyped. That got me hyped. I don't know if you could see me, but I'm back here dancing. I'm like, I'm ready to go now.
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David Lee Corbo
Can I just say there was one more top? You did a thing that was really wonderful. It's when you have all the dancing nurses from the, from the lockdown era and they're kind of hitting it to the beat. I was like, damn, that's actually a banger. Good job.
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Top Lobster
Top.
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Tommy Cullum
Incredible. I'm Tommy from Let's Get Freaky Podcast, a show that we. We dive into the paranormal, all aspects. Ghosts, cryptids, UFOs. And I get, I guess on normally to share their experiences and their work with the paranormal. Sometimes we get into the conspiracy as well. And yeah, we just, we like to get freaky. Let's Get Freaky podcasts. We talk all things weird and strange.
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David Lee Corbo
There you go. There's the link tree. Guys, don't forget to go over to Tommy's link tree. And you got access to everything all in one spot. Check out his YouTube.
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Top Lobster
In my. Yeah, this is.
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Tommy Cullum
I'm quite new to the YouTube. I'm new, sort of new to the YouTube.
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David Lee Corbo
Been doing the YouTube. What's the most recent title video there? What is. Oh, Tartaria. You went into Tartaria. Very exciting.
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Top Lobster
Very. He was talking with the. The Fed, Paul Stobbs.
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David Lee Corbo
Sweet, sweet Paul Stobbs, who infiltrated our Telegram channel yesterday, queued off by. By M.K. ryan, and he's trying to figure out what the boys at Nephilim Death Squad are on to. And we're not telling you Paul Stobbs. In fact, instead of telling you what we're doing, we're here hanging out with your buddy without you. All right? That's what we're doing today. You know what's funny is we actually haven't done much of a dive into Tartaria. I know Paul does great work on it because it. The way that it connects to the whole little season theory, it's like a big. A big component of it, but it's just one of those things. I don't know what it is. We look at it and we're like. We're watching other content creators just mercilessly beat Tartaria to death with a stick. And I'm like, okay, other people have it covered. People that are sharper than us have it covered. And so we'll handle, I don't know, I guess all the remaining Nephilim. But you were talking about how all the remaining. All the remaining Nephilim. Yeah, but you were talking about Cryptids, right? Is that something that you. You tend to focus on quite a.
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Tommy Cullum
Bit on your podcast quite a lot of the time. I mean, you had putty from the Patterson Gimlin film on your intro there. That was one of the reasons why I got into all this sort of stuff was because I find especially Bigfoot super interesting. I've never seen one, not yet, but I look into it and. And I started listening to Bigfoot podcasts at first, and then it sort of took me down this other rabbit hole. And then you learn about the Dog man and the Mothman, and, you know, there's a lot of them out there, and they're all around the world. They're in the uk, they're in the us they're in every culture that we have. And. And I think there's. There's something to this, man.
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Top Lobster
A lot of people, I might be, I'm very ignorant. I'm. I'm just a dumb Puerto Rican kid from America. But they have Cryptids in the uk, right?
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Tommy Cullum
We do. We have sightings. People seem. Obviously you've got the. The famous Loch Ness Monster in Scotland, which is one of the OGs. You know, there was a sight in literally two weeks ago. I think it was someone. You know, all these pictures are very hard. They're very blurry. You know, so it's difficult. We can't stamp down exactly what's going on. But, yeah, there's people that see Bigfoot here in the uk. Dog man, you know, there's a lot of. There's a lot of sightings.
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David Lee Corbo
Well, let me ask you this, Tommy. The narrative on Bigfoot has changed so tremendously, certainly since the days of, like, that. The footage that we were just talking about, what is it? The. The. The something gimlet.
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Tommy Cullum
Yeah, yeah, that's it.
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David Lee Corbo
And back in the day, there was a lot of speculation as to whether or not this is, like, a missing link, you know, somewhere in the. In the chain of human development. If you subscribe to the theory of evolution, then maybe somehow Bigfoot fits into that picture. And we were pretty content looking at him as like, if he did exist at all, which was, you know, a real. A real kind of stone's throw from reality for a lot of people then he was some sort of just. Just a regular ape, you know, some sort of upright walking ape that maybe we just lost track of. And now the narrative has shifted in such a way that it's kicked the doors open to ideas of, like, telepathy, ideas of. Of dimensional travel. Right. That these. These Bigfoot are somehow, you know, moving in and out of our physical realm into a different realm. This is why they're so hard to find. And it becomes pretty overwhelming, the amount of evidence to support that kind of ideology just based off the fact that we haven't found a body. But we have no shortage of eyewitness testimony. I mean, like, it's just. It's never gone away. It's never died down. In fact, it's probably only gotten increasingly more. So.
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Top Lobster
Something interesting I was listening to today. I love Tony Merkel Show. No matter how much content we do, I have, like, I have zero time to listen to shows. Always will. Listen to Tony. He was talking about, like, people that investigate Bigfoot, and. And he said he was gonna go find and try to exhume a Bigfoot body. And a doctor told him that she's heard of many cases where there's, like, extreme radiation poisoning that people get, and they'll be dead within a year when they come into contact with these bodies. Are you familiar with any of this?
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Tommy Cullum
I mean, I've not heard that, but that is very interesting. I mean, Tony Merkel is one of my favorites, the Confessionals podcast. Probably another reason why I started let's Get Freaky as well. You know, he really inspired me. I. I was talking to someone very interesting. The other day, who sort of made a storm in the Bigfoot community here in the UK and in the US Daniel Lee Barnett. And he's 15 years old, a very impressive young man.
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Top Lobster
Is that illegal to talk to this guy?
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Tommy Cullum
I know. I was like, is this right? I went downstairs and I told my wife that I'd just been talking for nearly two hours to a 15 year old boy online.
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David Lee Corbo
She started packing her bags up.
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Tommy Cullum
She was like, this has got to stop. This is sick.
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David Lee Corbo
Oh my God.
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Tommy Cullum
But, but to be honest with you, he was like smarter than me. He was like, he was, the way he was talking and presenting himself, super smart lad. You know, he's 15 with like the mind of a 40 year old. You know, the way he was talking, it was unbelievable.
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Top Lobster
I think we got to get used to that idea, like, because podcasting is becoming such a big thing that there are going to be these kind of savants that pop up and they're. Why not, why wouldn't they be younger? You know, why younger kid be good at this.
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David Lee Corbo
What was his, what was his bag? Tommy had he, did he have an experience himself?
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Tommy Cullum
He had an incredible. Well, I'll say experience, but he. So he got into the Bigfoot. What's the, the famous show?
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David Lee Corbo
Is it Bigfoot hunters or squash hunters or.
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Tommy Cullum
Yeah, it's one of them. One of them. So he started watching one of them shows when he was 13 and he got really into it and he started like, this is, this is how smart the kid is. He's 13. So instead of like going out looking for Bigfoot like you would as a 13 year old, if you're into that, he's gone out and he's using the same methods that Bigfoot hunters use to find, to track Bigfoot. But he's used that on deers, right. Which I think is really smart for a kid of that age to even think that way. And he's, and he said it was an incredible experience because he's using these same techniques and he's found like a herd of deers and it was like amazing. So he found that, he done that tick. He's like, okay, now in, in the uk, there's a lot of people, including my mother in law, that, that see big cats. So my mother in law 20 years ago saw a black panther in Essex in the uk. We can get into that if you want. But. So he was like, okay, now I'm going to use that same technique that I use for the deers to find a big cat, to find, to find proof of the big cats. And he said he was out with his. With his grandmother and he's going through. I believe it was Somerset. I think it was Somerset. And he's. Which is a lovely part of the uk, very countrysidey. And he's going through the forest and they both stumble upon this giant foot, which sounds wild. And he's 13 when this happened and. Or 13, 14. It was, it was recent. And he's at this age, like with his grandmother as well. But he knows to, like, collect some DNA to take a mold of the foot. Like he's proper, proper big foot man. And he said he. So he's got all this, this, this, this evidence. And then he found other, like, footprints as well and took all the DNA from that and sent off these samples to a load of different labs around the world. He said a lot of people weren't even getting back to him. But I'm not sitting there thinking, this dude's 15 years old. And he's talking to me like, it was unbelievable.
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David Lee Corbo
At 15 years old, dude, I don't know what I was chasing girls and. Yeah, okay, that's actually probably the only thing that I was doing at 15 years old. I was not chasing an upright, bipedal, you know, interdimensional ape at all. A telepathy ape at all. That's not so. Yeah, I mean, I'll give him some credit there. Give credit where credit's due.
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Tommy Cullum
We were just trying to find boobies at that age.
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David Lee Corbo
Totally different B word.
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Tommy Cullum
Totally different 100. So this is where it gets wild. So he sent off this, this, this, this evidence. One, one place got back to him in Portugal. One lab in Portugal got back to him and said that they will look at it and, and look into it. And he said a little while went past and they reached him, they got back to him and they said, this is incredible what you found. And this is how he explained it. And I'm no DNA expert. Like, I don't know a lot about this, like, the DNA side of things, but basically, apparently we've all got old ape. Sorry, we've all got, like, new ape, they call it. This is what he called it. New ape DNA in us, apparently. That's in us, apparently. But what they found in this footprint was old ape DNA, which humans don't have. So whatever he had found had old 8 DNA in this, in this track, in this footprint. And it's just blown up from there. He's talking to some of the biggest researchers in the us. I don't know if you've heard of Bobo Bigfoot?
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel bad because that guy, he's a great character, but, you know, when you. When you end up getting caught in the repetition of a series that a channel wants to sell, they keep dragging you out into the woods, they keep making you whoop. They keep making you smack trees with sticks. And it's like, you know, that guy, if you look at him, Bobo, he is, like. And genuinely into this topic. But at the end of the day, you have to get pulled back onto the show and you have to go smack the trees with a stick and you have to whoop in the dark because we got. We got, you know, a slot to film, we got viewers to entertain, and we got sponsors to. To. To make happy. And so, yeah, I think there's a lot to that guy. A lot more than what we typically see on. On Finding Bigfoot.
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Tommy Cullum
Yeah, well, they've got a podcast now, so their podcast is Bigfoot and Beyond. And. And they. They say that. There he is. There's the.
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David Lee Corbo
Oh, this is him.
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Tommy Cullum
That's him. Yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
Look at him. That little skinny kid out in the woods looking for something that he doesn't even realize can rip his limbs off and beat him to death with his own arms.
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Tommy Cullum
He's braver than me, that's for sure.
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David Lee Corbo
Yes.
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Tommy Cullum
Yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
I couldn't catch me rolling around in the woods doing that.
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Tommy Cullum
So, yeah, man. But so. So he's. He's. He's reaching out, and he's even. He's even doing a. So you get the cryptid cons in the cryptic cons in the. In the US There's. There's one coming to the UK now because of him. I think it's in a couple of months, and. And he was explaining that to me, and I'm just like, wow, man. So he's got this evidence, and he's got a documentary coming out, I believe it's in September, which is gonna like, really explain all this a lot better than I just did. And it's just mind blowing, man. So.
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David Lee Corbo
There'S so much about the whole Bigfoot phenomenon that, like I said at the top of the show, you know, it went from just being strictly, you know, a wildlife biologist POV, to all of a sudden, it really gets into the supernatural realm. And. And a lot of the supernatural explanations are explaining this thing's elusiveness, why we can't get our hands on it, why we can't find a body. And. And there's all this kind of like, you know, telepathic communication is Overwhelmingly one. I know we talked to Doc Brown of the Prometheus Lens podcast, and what we were talking about with him is, I think we brought up the bump podcast, and there was a woman who was on the bump podcast. A lot of the audience is familiar with this story where she's having a prolonged interaction with a Bigfoot. And over time, she manages to get some information from this thing. And. And one of the more profound things that it revealed to her was that it identified itself as an illude and that it was seeking redemption. I know, I'm paraphrasing. There he is. There's. There's Doc right now. Shout out to Doc at the Prometheus Lens podcast.
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Tommy Cullum
Yes.
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David Lee Corbo
And. And, you know, you start looking into the etymology of the. The word eliud, and it seems to be some descendant of the Nephilim, right? Some descendant, some bloodline variant or. Or branch of the offspring of fallen angels and human women. And, you know, that whole idea that this thing is seeking redemption is kind of profound because that's a topic that we explore a lot on this show is do these things, whether they're cryptids or chimeric creatures or, you know, the genetic lineage of. Of the fallen, do they have. Can they receive redemption through Christ? And so we already were kind of wondering and asking that question. So when that little bit of information came across the table, man, I mean, it makes Bigfoot incredibly compelling. It adds a dynamic to this story that, like, man, we're so far from 15 years ago where this thing was just an ape in the woods. And it might be a missing link.
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Tommy Cullum
100 man, for me, for me, with these things in the Bigfoot world, it's very much. There's two sides. You're either in the Wu camp or you're in the flesh and Blood camp. And sometimes they fight, which I never get that. I don't get that at all because we're all just trying to find the answers. But for me, at the moment, as of today, I feel like there must be some sort of supernatural element to these things because, you know, we can't catch up with them. We can't prove them. 100 so there must be a supernatural element to them, you know, and.
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David Lee Corbo
And then you start to. Like I said, you have those. Those instance of telepathy, and you were talking about the genetic aspect of them. I remember a story. It's anecdotally, and I know I'm going to butcher it, but there was some sample that was taken from these things through one. I think it might have been like Hair that was left on a tree. And when it was sent to a lab, it came back as like, pretty standard. But there was one element that was. It totally threw them for a loop. And they didn't even have a genetic ancestry line for that DNA sample. And I wish I had a better access to that story. Right now, my mind is failing me. But I remember hearing that. Might have heard it on Tony's show, actually.
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Tommy Cullum
Yeah, but a lot of people say if you find like hair or evidence, don't send it to a lab. A lot of people say that because if you do that, you're probably not going to hear nothing back. It's going to go somewhere. They're going to throw it away. Like, like the, the giant bones that you find in the US and things like that. If you hand them in, chances are you're not going to hear nothing back. You know, they're just going to be swept under the carpet and. And there we go.
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Top Lobster
I think there's something with the giant bones going on with that dude, the Boneyard, Alaska guy.
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Tommy Cullum
Oh, man, that's incredible.
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Top Lobster
Okay, so you're aware of him? Yeah, he was just on Rogan again. I haven't caught it because Rogan makes very long episodes, but that guy, he. He alluded the first time that these, these bones or whatever he was finding, he was like. He kind of. He's like, yeah, they're not ancient remains, because if they are, then the government will seize my property. But it's just mammoth bones. It's just stuff like that. And I was like, I don't think so, dude. It's like in, in a. I think it's a five square acre. In his five square acres of this property is where all of this action is taking place. And it's happening on top of itself. Like something happened here. This is not just mammoths. These are. I, I don't. I don't know if we'll ever find out what it is because he probably can't even disclose it.
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Tommy Cullum
Yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't know if this is. If this. They gave some of them bones to the British Museum. I think that might be wrong. But one of the, one of the museums, I think, in the UK and they refused to do any research or even acknowledge that they have them or something like that.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, well, we did an episode recently on the idea that the Smithsonian has a history of doing that. And when you find out, you know, it's a lot of his allegations and it's hard to prove because it's been obfuscated. But the anecdotal cases of finding, you know, inexplicably large humanoid bones and then, you know, calling what you think is the proper authorities in the Smithsonian and then these things allegedly get dumped in the rivers or, you know, what have you, that it's another one of those instances where the anecdotal evidence piles up to the point where you have to start asking some questions. Why is this the case? Turns out it's actually not that uncommon, if you look at these stories, for people to find these bones.
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Top Lobster
Where. Where was that kid at? His name is Daniel Barnett. Where was he at?
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Tommy Cullum
I'm pretty sure it was in Somerset. I interviewed him last week, so I should remember that. But I think.
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Top Lobster
Where was he at with, like, the interdimensional aspect of big.
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David Lee Corbo
Oh, yeah.
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Tommy Cullum
Oh, okay. Yeah. Well, in his. In his work. So I asked him that question, like, what he thinks Bigfoot are. And he. He's from the. From the angle that they're flesh and blood. Now in his documentary that he's got coming out in September, he did go to Seattle, I believe, or the west coast, somewhere in the west coast and had an experience that he can't talk about yet because, you know, with this stuff with documentaries and stuff like that, they. They don't let you always talk about it until it comes out, which is annoying. But I was like, oh, man, you gotta tell me. But he was like, I can't talk about it. But he had an experience there, which is going to be in the documentary that in his mind confirmed that these are flesh and blood. So I don't know what that was. But so. But I believe they could be flesh and blood, but they could just be a science or something to them that we just don't understand. Something that they're able to do that we can't. I don't know. I don't know.
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David Lee Corbo
That's a hot spot, right? He's going to Seattle, like the west coast of. Of America. The. The Northwest is. Is. I guess it would probably be the. The hottest spot in the country for Bigfoot sightings is going to be the Northwest. And I don't think that he's wrong at all in the idea that they're physical. They seem very physical. I mean, you know, all I have to go by is. Is testimony from individuals who have had encounters. And overwhelmingly, when you. I mean, they're throwing rocks, right? They're striking the sides of your house and things like that. Like, they seem to be pretty mischievous, actually, which is interesting. I. You hear that A lot. It's like if you hear one story about a Bigfoot knocking things against the side of a barn or tossing rocks out of a tree line where he's out of view but you know he's there. You hear that once and you go, that sounds strange and unlikely, but that is an overwhelmingly common theme in these testimonies, that they're. They're hiding out of sight. They seem to be trailing you in one way or another. They'll. They'll follow you out of the forest and they will do things like that. They'll knock, they'll throw. They'll throw rocks. I don't know what the hell that is, but that, to me, screams like, yeah, this is a physical entity. I don't think that those things contradict one another. The idea that this thing could be traversing through some sort of a dimensional gateway, a portal or something like that, and that it is also physical, I. I don't think that those things cancel each other out. So what I would wonder is if he's still open to any of those ideas of interdimensional travel or something like that. Like, a lot of these things, for example, happen in national parks. And in national parks, there's this overwhelming. I mean, you look at the missing 411 cases with David Polites, and it almost seems like. And this is something, you know, once again, to. To kind of give Tony his flowers is something that I've watched him develop on his show, where it. There seems to be, like, I don't know, it maybe there are trees that act as portals. There might even be rock formations that act as portals in these national forests, and people seemingly go missing in them, in the forest, that is. And then they will reappear on the other side of a terrain like a mountainous range. And oftentimes this is like a child has no business being able to traverse that sort of a thing. And when they're found, they don't look at all like they've been on a harrowing journey over a mountainscape as a toddler. So. So even. Even the people who go missing, there seems to be such a strange event surrounding what they went through that people start to then speculate as to whether or not, I don't know, maybe you slipped into something and you traversed a great distance without having. Actually having to physically do it. So especially when it comes to the national parks thing and the missing 411 cases, that, to me, really lends itself to being able to say, okay, let's explore this interdimensional aspect. Let's explore this, this portal aspect, because otherwise we're at a loss of explanations in regards to how these things are taking place, because physically they don't seem possible.
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Tommy Cullum
Yeah, for sure, man. I mean, you get like, veteran outdoorsmen that have, you know, been out all their lives hunting, you know, they know the forest like, like any better than anyone, and they will just go missing without a trace. Without a trace. And how can you explain that? You know, I'm sure that certain circumstances that can happen, but as you say, with a missing 411, there's. There's loads of cases where that happens. And it's like, how, you know and how's there no. No evidence?
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Top Lobster
You know, there's also a weird hitchhiker, hitchhiker effect type of thing where, yeah, even people who don't have experience, if they're out looking for it, they'll often say that they're visited by, like, UFOs or they'll see orbs and things like that. So it's like those things that are connected in this way. I. It annoys me a little bit, but I understand that there has to be, like, a very scientific approach to what they're doing to reach the unbelievers. But I don't really care about the unbelievers at this point. Like, we've been through so much the last four years that if you're going to, like, say, like, we need, you know, we. We need to rely on the science at this point. I'm just like, nice.
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David Lee Corbo
Well, we'll. We'll go explore those things and you guys can catch up. But that hitchhiker effect is, Is also important to talk about, top right. Because how many times have we heard stories where it's not even just orbs, it's like. And this will open the conversation to something much bigger. You know, Dogman seemingly has followed me. We've heard story after story, whether it's the confessionals or the bump podcast or, you know, you name it. There's a bunch of really excellent shows out there in regards to paranormal testimony. And you hear stories about these things keeping pace with their car. I mean, that's like, you know, so if that doesn't scream physical, you know, just to go back to that topic, these trees snapping sometimes trees that are, you know, I don't know how many inches in diameter around that a human being simply couldn't do it. It seems like something is hiding in the tree line and snapping these, like, healthy trees. That's. That screams physical to me. So. Well, let me Ask you this, Tommy, where do you fall on all these things? Let's say in particular the interdimensional aspect or the. The portal aspect.
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Tommy Cullum
Well, I think there's. There's a strong case to suggest that that's what these. These creatures can do. They can come in and out of our reality. It seems, you know, you get like top trackers that track these things for miles, and all of a sudden they're gone. You know, there's no. Yeah, you know, how do you explain that, man? You know, if this was a natural animal that could just. I mean, obviously these things are intelligent. You know, they're obviously, if they're in as intelligent as us or even more intelligent than us, and they could probably get away from us, I don't know. But it just seems, especially with the portal, I think there's a lot to it, man. I think there's a lot more going on.
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David Lee Corbo
So the other thing too. Okay, so this is great, because what you just brought up is how, like, sometimes trackers and. And for people that don't understand, you know, the average person who lives in a city could never get a grip on how good these people actually are at, you know, hunters and trackers, at finding whatever it is that you can track an animal for a long distance just by following its trail. But then all of a sudden, the trail goes cold. It just stops. Like they'll come to a point where it's like, I don't know, I guess this creature got airlifted out of here because it just stops, which is not typical of an. Of an animal. You know, these things behave in a. In a pretty predictable way, which enables, you know, an entire hunting industry to be built around them. Right? That's why you can. You can go on tours reliably with a hunting guide. And he knows where the animals are going to pass through. He knows their habits, he knows their trails. He can bring you to a good spot. You're going to end up high, high likelihood you're going to end up being able to shoot something that day. And. But for whatever reason, if you track this thing, it just stops. And now that opens up another really weird thing. Top kind of, you know, touched on it a moment ago. You have a Bigfoot sighting. You have a Dogman sighting. You have a Cryptid sighting. You might also have orbs. You might also have inexplicable lights in the sky. You might have UFOs around these things. That was a big turning point in the Bigfoot culture is when they started to make that connection between Bigfoot and UFOs that became very uncomfortable. Even I, you know, this was years ago and I was, I was young, but even when I was younger, like I kind of wanted to scoff at that. It felt like, it felt laugh. I don't know what it is. Like now where I'm sitting, I realize, like, oh, there's some veracity to that. But when I was younger and that and the community first started to make that connection, I looked over, I kind of had a laugh and then I paid it no mind as well because.
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Tommy Cullum
You'Ll hear someone talking about their Bigfoot experience and they'll tell you this, the story, how they've seen this creature and stuff like that. And then sometimes they'll go back to their experience and say, and there was these lights as well. But I didn't want to say about that because that's. That sounds crazy. Okay. You just told me you saw a 10 foot tall ape man. And the light sound, you know. But they do seem to be connected. Like in so many cases they're connected. There seems to be a connection there. What it is, I don't know, but it's. As you're saying, there's. There's something to it, man. I don't know what it is.
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David Lee Corbo
And if you want to add another layer of. Oh, go ahead. Top.
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Top Lobster
Sorry, I was gonna say, like. So naturally with the, like your explorations into, I guess Bigfoot would have been your jumping on point sort of to do this podcast. But that'll lead you to all these other cryptids. But before we go into other cryptids, I just wanted, like, where are you at on aliens? Because that leads directly aliens as well.
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David Lee Corbo
Actually, before Tommy even answers that, we are at the 32 minute mark, a great question. And now we're going to yank the content away from the people. If you want to know what Tommy's answer is in regards to the alien phenomenon, you're gonna have to go to patreon.com backslash nephilim death squad.
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Top Lobster
It's rough.
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David Lee Corbo
Where you can continue. It is rough. It is rough. But I want to do that. I want to stick them and I want to twist it. All right.
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Tommy Cullum
That's what I can also tell you as well. Just to give you something, I've got a forest behind me and it's called the Devil Dog Forest. And I can tell you some things that even I've experienced in that forest.
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David Lee Corbo
The devil. Okay, all right. We're gonna get into aliens. We're gonna get into the Devil Dog Forest. If you want to continue this conversation, guys, you want to enjoy it. You want to have an ad free viewing experience. You want to sound off in the chat, and you want to gain access to the episode before the general public does. You can do so over at patreon.com backslash nephilim death squad. And you can do it for free. So I don't even know what's holding you back. Disgusting. All right, guys, otherwise we're out of here. We'll see you later, Tommy. Okay, man. The devil. The. The devil dog forest. Yeah. And that does not sound. In America, we have devil dogs. They're delicious. I don't think it's the same thing that you're talking about.
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Tommy Cullum
So this is more werewolf dog, man.
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David Lee Corbo
All right, so let's start with the. With the aliens first. Let's. What do you think is going on when it comes to the alien phenomenon?
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Tommy Cullum
So I. I think there's a connection with all the paranormal, with cryptids, with UFOs of aliens. I think they all. They're all very similar. Yeah. When you hear someone that's experienced experiencing a haunting in their house, it can be quite similar to abduction. People that experience abduction, you know, they're very similar. They come hand in hand. You know, they're pretty much sometimes the same thing, but people's perceptions of them are just different. And they.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, that, that poltergeist phenomenon, the overlap is huge.
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Tommy Cullum
Yes. Yes. Yeah. And then you'll talk to someone that's experienced abduction and that's very much like. Like hauntings as well, you know, so they seem to be connected. I've actually seen UFOs myself, so my first sort of big. I would say I'm always looking up. I love this stuff. So I'm always trying to see something. And I think if you're always looking up, you're going to see weird things that you can't understand sometimes. It's Elon Musk is. Is. He's doing stuff up there, and that's what it is. But when I was 14 years old, this is going back quite a few years, we was playing soccer in the street. Football, really. But we'll say soccer.
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David Lee Corbo
Thank you.
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Tommy Cullum
I appreciate it. I know. I'm sorry. We're playing soccer in the street, just my brother and a few other guys. And we're just. It's what we always used to do during the summer. And this one particular days, I remember it's a beautiful day. Like, it's a clear sky, very hot day, and we're all just playing football. And one of Us has stopped and gone, look, what is that in the sky? Right? And we've all just stopped playing football. And. And this sounds wild, but this 100% happened. There was like this building shaped object in the sky. It was. It was way up there in the distance, but we could see it. And it looked like a building. It just looked like a floating building. That. And I know that sounds wild. And it was like, yeah, it was angular. It was like. It was like, you know, the buildings you get in Dubai that are like really futuristic and. And you know, weird shapes and, you know, it was like that literally in the sky that. It was orange and silver. You know, they were the two main colors coming off this thing. And we were just looking at it like, what the heck is that? You know what? And for about five, ten minutes we're trying to work out what it was. Is it a balloon? Is it. You know, but it's. It's huge and it's not moving. And this. This bugs me. But we just started playing soccer again. You know, we didn't even. We did. So obviously whatever reason, we got bored of looking at this thing, which is crazy as well. I know. And then we just started playing soccer again. Didn't see it disappear, didn't see it fly off. Don't remember how that day really ended. So you could say missing time, but I don't think that was the case. But it really weird. I never really talked about it. Out of all the things that I've experienced, I never really talked about that experience. And when I started doing let's Get Freaky podcast, I was like, okay, what have I experienced? Let's. Let's write all this down. And so I've got something to talk about at the start of the show. And. And that sort of wild experience never came to my mind. You know, for whatever reason, it was there, but it never came to my mind. And then I was talking to Paranormal Heart Catw and I was on her podcast. It was the very first time I was on a show. And. And we were just talking about UFOs, and this memory just came back to me and I was like, wow, I never. I never talked about this. You know, this happened. And I told her what happened. She was like, wow. And I was like, wow, how did I not remember that for. For all this time? And then my brother rung me up like the next day because he listened to it and he was like, bro, what was it we saw that day? Because that was mad. And why have we never talked about it? I'm like, I know, I know. I don't know bro.
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David Lee Corbo
I'm sure you.
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Tommy Cullum
But I'm glad you remember.
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David Lee Corbo
That's like a common theme, right? Like people just for whatever reason, they don't talk about it and they kind of Forget about it. Yeah.
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Tommy Cullum
100. And I was so happy that my brother remembered it. So I wasn't like making this memory up, you know, because you start doubting yourself, you're like that, that was so wild. And you know, to anyone that's not experienced anything like that, I know you're going to be thinking, really? You know, that was probably a balloon, bro. You know. Well, but it wasn't.
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David Lee Corbo
Honestly, I had a very similar experience one time. I was, I was heading over to my buddy's house. He was several towns away and myself, my girlfriend at the time and my cousin were all driving. So my girlfriend is, you know, in the, in the driver's seat. And very early on, even though this is like a 20 minute drive across several town, I notice along with my cousin that there is something in the sky and it's just a black stationary thing. It's very hard to tell what it is at the time. But as we get closer to the town that we're going to, we find that we're also getting closer to this object in the sky. Eventually it comes into frame and I am now lean into the back seat looking up into the sky from the, the car's rear window. And as I'm looking into the sky, it looks to me to be a cluster of almost like black balloons. I say balloons because the, the light was shining on them in such a way that it looked like this, the, the surface or you know, the, the whatever the material they were made out of almost looked like rubber. It looked rubber and slick and black. And so, you know, you had a lot of shine from the sunlight. But as we got even closer and this thing by the way, has still not moved its location in the sky. It's in a fixed position, but it itself is moving. It's like undulating. There's like expanding and contracting and shifting. And to me it looked like a cluster of black balloons, but all the balloons were like a different shape, which obviously doesn't make any sense. Why would balloons be stationary? Who has a cluster of black balloons? Each one of them is a different shape. And that's only because, you know, there was no rhyme or reason. I couldn't see if they were spheres, I couldn't see if they were elongated. It was just constantly. And when we got to where we were going. This thing was on the same street above my buddy's house that we were going to. So when we got out of the car, my cousin and I were able to stand in the sidewalk and look up at this thing. And we noticed, like, some other people were also looking up, but it looked like. In hindsight, it looked like black goofy. Yeah, there you go. Somebody in the. In the. In the chat said it black goo again. It looked like black goo, and then it just like. As if. I don't know if you've ever seen the film the Forgotten. I forget who Jody Foster. I don't think it is Jody Foster. Whoever it is. It's basically about abductions. And the closer this lady gets to figuring out what the hell is going on, why these people are going missing, the more these things start to interact with her. And eventually it. It sucks, like, her boyfriend out of the house through the roof. It sucks the roof off the building. But the way that it sucks him into the sky is the same way that this thing just got sucked out. Like, it was. Like, it just either shot out into imperceivable space, like, it got too far to see, or it was snatched out, and then that was it. And to your point, Tommy, wow. I literally went inside my buddy's house and then played video games.
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Tommy Cullum
Yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
Like, it didn't even. We didn't even. We made it. Talked about it like, oh, what the hell was that? I don't know, dude. And then you just move on. Julian Moore. Thank you. Def Not Egg Faces. Julian Moore. Right? That was who it was. That's a great film, actually, the Forgotten. But yeah. So it just goes to show you, like, you can have the strangest thing happen. And I've been subjected to a lot of strange things. I know you're. You're saying that you live in front of. What is it? The dog, man. You have these experiences. There's simply no place to go because you can't wrap it up and understand it. And that lack of closure makes it so that your only other option is just to sort of walk away from it. And then you do that for, like, the remainder of your life until it comes up on an unhinged podcast.
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Tommy Cullum
Yeah. That's why I started let's Get Freaky. It's like therapy for me, really. You know, I can sort of sit there and hear people's experiences, and it sort of validates what you've experienced as well, you know? So I had this other world. I'd say UFO experience as well. This. This was when I was 25 and I was living in Brentwood, Essex in the UK, obviously. And we was in a block of flats four stories higher and we were on the fourth floor.
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David Lee Corbo
Okay.
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Tommy Cullum
And it was again, this was another beautiful summer's day, middle of the day, really nice day. And me and my mother in law both saw this, so I was so happy that she was there as well. And we saw this together. But we were sort of looking out, out into like, we had like a little forested area opposite the flats. And literally out of the forest came these three objects. And they weren't very big, they were quite small, but they were like the size of a basketball. But there was three of them and we could see it very clearly. Like they came out and they were like constantly changing shape. So they were like, they, they seem to be connected because they were like sort of floating around each other but they weren't actually touching and they were constantly changing shape and they were like this silvery metallic sort of, you know, you know when the terminator's melting in the terminator. Like it looked like that's how it looked like that's literally how the texture looked. And we could see this. And we're both looking at. What the hell? Are they balloons again? Well, are they balloons? And they were literally constantly moving, constantly changing and they. But they were like sort of keeping the same distance from each other without actually touching. And they were just spinning around and around and around, moving up very slowly to the sky. Now we're looking and we're trying to work out. And it really bugs me because I had my. I had an iPhone at this point, so I could have pulled it out and started recording, but I didn't even think of doing that at the time. And. And we're watching and they're going up and up and up and then all of a sudden you just saw flash, flash, flash. These things just shut off. Now the whole experience was wild, but I guess if we didn't see that, you could have gone, okay, that could have been some sort of balloon. You know, it wasn't a balloon, but it could have been that it was moving in one direction. It was going up to the sky. Could have been something like that. But the way they shot off sort of confirmed that that wasn't, that wasn't anything that we knew.
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David Lee Corbo
Right. That wasn't a cluster of balloons that you pick up. No supermarket. Yeah.
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Tommy Cullum
That wasn't tin foil. That was just sort of looking perfect at the time. Made it look like ufo. This was something very strange. And we both at the family parties now. Whenever we're at family parties, me and my mother in law, we sit there and we talk about this because I love it and she, she's quite into it as well. And. And you see the other family members looking over like, yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
Both lost your mind?
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Tommy Cullum
Are you sure? Was you drinking that day? Like, no, no, we saw that, man. And it was in. It was pretty cool.
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Top Lobster
It's strange, right? Like I had a. I. I think I saw a UFO recently and I had no inclination to pull my phone out.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
So, yeah, what happened is I'm looking out over the trees in my, my house and I'm looking up and I see this shiny thing and it kind of like goes across and I see it and then it goes far away. Like it shoots away in the distance, but super fast, way fat. Because I live on a road that they fly airplanes off, so I see airplanes all the time. Like, this is not an airplane. So I looked at, I was like, that's fucking weird. Anyway, and then a couple minutes later, the same thing happened. Like, literally the same path. And this is like maybe two minutes, three minutes later, same path. And I look at it again. I said, look at this shit. And then it flies off. And I was like, that's crazy. So I go, wow. Anyway. And then fucking again. Four times this happened and not once did I think, let me pull my phone out, right? But it's also, what are the chances of this happening? It happened exactly the same way four straight times. And it was like this glittery thing in the sky. Now if it moved across normally, but when it moved away from me is when I'm like, there's no way, because I could see that it's going. What is this? North, South? Oh, sorry. So it's going east at a speed that I can't comprehend because it's just gone and four straight times and not once did I even think about even, like, I didn't even touch my phone. I just like looking at him like, this is incredible, man.
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Tommy Cullum
You're seeing something amazing. Yeah, it's like when people say about like the Bigfoot videos, and I know there's a few sketchy ones out there that are not real, we know that. But then you. There are some out there that are pretty like that, that I know that we got the Patterson Gimlin film, which in my opinion that's real because it's too like amazing like the detail and stuff for the 60s for them to produce something like that. I don't think they would have been able to do it. But then there's a, there's a few other videos that are like questionable, but people are always like, yeah, but it's blurry, you know. Yeah, but if you're, if you're seeing a bigfoot, right, and you, and you have fought to get your phone out to take a video, you're gonna be shaking, you're gonna be all over the place. You're not gonna get that perfect shot, man. I would, I wouldn't have thought, you.
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David Lee Corbo
Know, but even if it's so a lot of.
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Top Lobster
Even, even with a professional camera, like I just, I just got one yesterday. I don't know how to use this thing. Like, is my quality should be like way better than it looks right now. But I have, and this is a very good camera. So now that you're talking about with your phone, probably, and you're like, what is this thing? Most people have no clue about light exposure, things like this. It's like, what do you expect?
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David Lee Corbo
The theory around these things is evolving so much, right? And even when it comes to the UFO phenomenon. So when it comes to the Bigfoot thing and the blurry pictures, this idea that predators, right, like, like tigers and things like that, even gators can do this. If you're ever near a gator, it'll, it'll, it's, it's actually kind of terrifying. It will emit this deep guttural growl that is almost akin to like infrasound. And in small prey animals it can actually cause almost like a sense of paralysis because the fear is so intense. And that is certainly something that people have experienced when they have a run in with a cryptid. There's this vibrational aspect. It causes you to shut down into and to lock up, right? It's like fight, flight or freeze. But this seems, this freeze aspect almost seems to be the result of either technology or a natural biological function. You would imagine that if a tiger can emit a low frequency growl that can paralyze its prey and you could even feel it resonating through your body. That something that is in excess of like, you know, 8, 9, sometimes it's like 12ft tall and it's this massive creature that's able to snap healthy trees or you know, send a limb flying through the air or what have you, maybe then you're experiencing a much more intense version of that. But that's what I love about this field of study is how much the, the information evolves over time.
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Top Lobster
It's not just, just, it's not Just that, like. So we're, we're also learning some, some new stuff. Well, this is old information, but the UFO that originally crashed in Roswell was taken down by like, radar, some sort of sonar that was new for us.
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David Lee Corbo
Oh, it was a vacuum. Vacuum tube, something like that. I have it written down.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, it was like a vacuum tube radar that they were using. And they're like, what's that? And they pointed it at the UFO and the UFOs like, Bro, and just crash. So they, they're emitting some sort of frequency at this high technology. And this thing doesn't. I mean, it's, it's a loophole, I guess, in its, in its construction. And it crashed. And then they, then they went on a concerted effort to try to crash as many as they could. And I think that they were pretty successful in that. And then whatever was making these crafts probably adjusted. So when you think about that and then you think about what's the correct way to put this? Like this, this sort of. I mean, there, there stories of Bigfoot doing this like, weird telekinesis sort of thing, which I, I think would also be perceived in vibration. So if it is emitting this stuff, if it's aware of you, it can probably emit a vibration that'll jam your up. And whether it's done on purpose, I don't, I don't know. Maybe it's just a side effect of what it is.
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Tommy Cullum
Yeah, man. Yeah. And. And you, you hear a lot of people that see these creatures talk about like mind speak, like the telepathy that these things can communicate through your mind. They get like, they get like sentences and, you know, which is similar to the abduction. You know, when people, you know, get abducted and they, they get the mind speak and these things can communicate telepathically. It seems to be like a similar. They're connected, you know, in some way maybe.
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David Lee Corbo
I wanted to say before too, that line of thought that I was going on with the infrasound. If you have like a vehicle that has a really substantial sound system in it and you hit it with a lot of heavy bass. I was watching a video just like a couple of days ago of the, the door, the car door, where it's thinner at the top, where like, if you raise the window, it would meet the top of the door. That is actually because of the frames per second on the camera, it's vibrating. But the, the camera is only able to perceive it actually as like a wave. Like it's. It looks like the car door despite being made of sheet metal, is now turned into some other substance where it's. So if. If you're able to do that with bass, to actually vibrate something, that it becomes distorted even to the human eye or a camera, if these things are emitting an infrasound and you're trying to photograph them, they would look incredibly blurry. Right. Because it's the same concept as having your bass turned all the way up in a very loud sound system in the car. So I think, yeah, a lot of the. A lot of the theories surrounding this and that this is bringing us back to the UAP or the UFO conversation. There you go. I mean, that's incredible. Yeah, that's incredible.
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Tommy Cullum
Yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
And you'll see that, like I said.
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Top Lobster
That'S a whole car door that's vibrating as an E note, like a low E note. And then, you know, obviously, if you know the guitar, there's the B, and you can see that. You can actually see the sign frequency of what it sounds like as it vibrates, and then it tapers off. But it's.
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Tommy Cullum
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
So to think that that's not happening on a different level. When. When something that huge, you're trying to record it or trying to interface with it is like kind of. Kind of a bizarre to not.
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David Lee Corbo
It's a multi. It obfuscates your image. It also. So it makes you harder to perceive. Like in the forest. Right. It's actually a great. If you. If you wanted to call this, like, if you believe in evolution and you think this is an evolutionary trait, it's a genius one, because it. Anything that you would walk bump into that's adversarial, you know, I don't think anything is really going to be a predatory animal to a Bigfoot. But if it didn't want to, you know, let's just say a Bigfoot doesn't necessarily want to tango with the bear that it came across. If it emits this thing, it's going to send that thing running. It's. It's either going to be paralyzed with fear or it might actually obfuscate the ability to see it. You know, something like that. So it's actually a great trait. It's kind of cool in that way. But the same way that the Bigfoot narrative has developed over time is the same way that the UAP narrative has developed. Because we used to look at these things as just nuts and bolts, but now the. The floodgates have been open into the way of, like, speculating if these things are organics, if they're. If they're plasma even, right? If there's some sort of like. Like a. A pseudo physical light, you know, where maybe something we haven't interacted with before, but it is a natural phenomenon because you know what Top's talking about how this thing takes off in such a dramatic way. You can't even perceive how fast it's going because you, you know, it just. The scale of it is very confusing. But it shouldn't be moving that fast. Well, whatever is inside would get scrambled, right? Like the G forces would just turn it into putty. So maybe, maybe there's a different, you know, if you go to. What's his name, the guy from S2, Bob Lazar. He's talking about a. An element that allows you to bend space time around you. So you're actually not propelling forward like a combustion engine, but instead you're folding space timer. Like I even know what that means. I don't. But that kind of suggests that whoever's inside has their own gravitational base that they're operating from. So they're not feeling any of these G forces and they're not even feeling disoriented when they go upside down. Because if you're inside the craft, upside down is still right side up to you. So maybe there's that, or maybe there is no pilot in some cases. Maybe this isn't a thing that can be piloted. Maybe this is some sort of sentient intelligent matter that we just don't know. So it's like, dude, I kind of love that about it. You should just be nuts and bolts. And now it's something different.
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Tommy Cullum
Yeah. Yeah, man. Yeah, it blows my mind, man. That is for sure. Like, it could be some like, artificial intelligence that obviously we can see where the world is going right now with AI, it's definitely moving at a fast pace. Scary things are possibly very much around the corner when it comes to AI. You know, is this an advanced AI that we just don't understand yet, that maybe is already out there that we just. They don't tell us about, basically?
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David Lee Corbo
Well, here in America, not long ago, we had like this like drone saga that was taking place. And Top and I were looking at it very closely. It was happening over the Tri State area, New York, New Jersey. And that's where we're original from, originally from. And, and just the conversation, I mean, that gets into a whole bag of worms, that topic. But the conversation alone, surrounding drones is like, you know, some of them. It was a lot of weird phenomenon happening where from the street Level, it would look like a plane, but then you would notice that it's way too low to be a plane, because even though it looks like one, if a real plane was at that height, it would be massive and you would be able to hear it. But this thing is silent and the scale is all messed up and in fact it kind of looks weird. It doesn't look like it has any logos or symbols on it. And when you zoom in on it, for some reason it turns into an orb. Or sometimes people and this is New Jersey senators saying this, that he watched one turn into an orb. Just flat out like it was a thing that looked like a drone. And then over time it just turned into an orb. And so now that whole concept of like, you know, I don't know what's going on with that, that's been put to bed. But it's like that whole idea of an unmanned craft that seemingly can camouflage or, or shape shift even. And there's a, a big movie called. Nope, I think it was.
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Tommy Cullum
Yeah, I saw that.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, it was a good one. And, and I forget what the guy's name is. I typically don't like what he makes because it's always, it's always got some sort of like left leaning political agenda attached to it. But this was fun enough and what it opened the door for in regards to conversation was organics, right? Like these upper atmospheric jellyfish that, by the way, during the drone incursion in New Jersey, we were getting videos of what looked to be like these plasmic electric jellyfish just kind of floating along through the sky. And one of them in particular was seen over New York and it was seen by multiple different angles. So we were able to watch like all these different videos of the same object. And then of course you, you even saw that same object just in entirely different geographical locations that, you know, nowhere near New York. So there is one of the guys names Cryptids of the Corn. I think his name is Justin. We had him on really early in the show's development and he bought this idea to the table of upper atmospheric organic creatures, you know, that, that we would perceive potentially as UFOs, but might actually be more akin to like a jellyfish or, or some sort of oceanic creature.
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Tommy Cullum
But these are living organisms in the sky.
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David Lee Corbo
Yes, yes. And, and it's like, dude, that, I mean, how advanced things have gotten from, from the, you know, the 70s, the 80s, the 90s, and then where we are now in 2025, it's almost like everything is possible. And when I Say everything that's a range from like nuts and bolts, reverse engineered craft, and then all the way to, I don't know, physical light that can manifest shape shift and is intelligent. It's like, what the hell, man?
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Tommy Cullum
Yeah, man. In, in the early days of let's get freak out, this really cool dude on Nick and he, he created somehow, I don't know how, my mind is not scientific at all, but he created this camera that could look to the sky. And it basically films objects that you can't see with a human eye. And he was catching all these incredible like jellyfish, like shaped objects, like living organisms. And, and it started for him, basically it was like a Christmas Eve, I think it was, or Christmas Day. He was out walking the dog and he saw like a UFO in the sky. And he said it, it blew, it blew his mind and it opened him up to all this sort of stuff and he started looking into it all. And this is how he went down that rabbit hole of creating his own camera and, and incredible stuff, man. And he's caught all these images of, of these different objects in the sky that look like, you know, they're living in the ocean, basically. You know, it looks, that's how it looks. And you can't see it with a naked eye. And it just makes you think that there's a lot up there that we just can't. Even the human eye just can't see it, you know.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, we, we recently spoke to Crow777. Or is it. Yeah, it's not 666, right. 777. And he's documented a second son. And he's, he has like, you know, a telescope, telescope with like photographic lens on it. But when it's tuned to a certain setting, you can see different things. And he also plays around with it. It's. It's like a, it becomes weird, right, because if you're, if you're creating your own camera and then pointing it at the sky, someone will accuse you of looking for something. But on the other hand, you know, guys will, they'll use a PCR test and dial it up and be like, this is Covid, you know, so it's like, I don't really, I don't know if. I guess the science is different, but this is what this guy is doing. And he showed us some photographic evidence where you can see a second body or a second entity behind the sun. And when the camera is like dialed to a certain, to a certain setting, you can actually see these phenomenon. And he'll Also get like pretty close up to the sun. But he's been photographing it for what, like a decade more than that?
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David Lee Corbo
Something like that? Yeah, I think since about 2015, maybe a little bit before that.
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Top Lobster
Yeah. So he's. They're also speculating that there's an event that's going to be going down with this second sun because it's like now in our. I guess it's back in our alignment in our, in our solar system, if you believe in space or whatever you'd like to say about it. And it kind of lines up with everything else that's been going on. Like, you know, Abramovic talking about 2025, Baba Vanga talking about 2025.
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David Lee Corbo
It looks like.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, yeah. It looking like this is the end of days. We just had like this planetary alignment going on. There are craft in the sky, people are photographing organic, I guess, UAPs or whatever the hell in the sky. It feels like something is going on. Where were being given the insight to look at this stuff in a different way, man. I often think like, are we even be like we're being given the insight. Are we being pushed in that direction? Like this show, your show. Our show popped up I guess a year ago. But like there have been a lot of people who are doing what we do and looking at it from this specific angle and it shouldn't, it shouldn't have been this way. Like I was doing something else with my life and David was always kind of crazy, but I was, I was focused elsewhere. And now so many people are tuned into this. Like we are directly looking at what is going on because it's significant.
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Tommy Cullum
100 man, once you go down the rabbit hole, there's no coming out. And that, that's the problem with this stuff. Like, and, and then you're, you're stuck. I don't think you can get out of it, man. Once you're. You meet people that just want to do their job and I get that, you know, they want to do their job, look after their family and that is, that is very important. I get that. And, and they don't want to deal with all this wild stuff that, that we. That's thrown at us and, and guys like us talk about. But once you go down the rabbit hole and you know that there's more going on, you know, we don't quite know exactly what it is, but it's, it's addictive, man.
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David Lee Corbo
And we need somebody's got a much better idea than we do though. Because one of the things that conjoins this conversation between UAPS and, you know, orbs and Bigfoot. Encrypted are the locations that these things are often seen at. And that location is often a military base. And that becomes very. Not confusing to me. It's not confusing. I mean, maybe to other people it's confusing, but it seems like there is some aspect of our military industrial complex that is geared towards maybe more than understanding these things. The reason that I say more than understanding is because oftentimes these bases are the location for cryptid sightings, dogman sightings. In fact, it's gotten so prolific that a theory has been birthed that maybe these things are, you know, because it's like, where do they come from? Are they interdimensional? Are they biological, physical creatures that inhabit the planet? And we just, you know, they're awfully elusive, and we don't see them that often. Are they being created somewhere in a chimeric lab setting that the military is conducting? And it's like, maybe all of those things. Why not? Why not all of those things? And so that theory that's kind of emerged out of that is that these things are being created on site or brought in on site, potentially, right? Because you have these particle accelerators all over the world, and, you know, the big concern with them is whether or not they're opening portals, and there's a lot of lore to that as well. So maybe they're bringing them in, maybe they're creating them, but then they seem to be tasked with guarding the base. And that's something that you hear a lot. In fact, if I'm not mistaken, Justin of Cryptids of the Corn, when he came on, he talked about seeing something on a. On the. The base of a particle accelerator that he accidentally found himself on. I don't think he meant to be there. He was just exploring the woods, ended up having some strange encounter, and then ended up being descended upon by, you know, not. I don't know if it's military personnel as much as it was official government personnel telling him he's got to get the hell off the property. And then, lo and behold, he was on the. The site of a particle accelerator. So that, that combination there of like, whatever the military is doing, you know, the scientific community, the intelligence communities, the military intelligence communities, and then these sightings, right, because we know, like, there's an aspect, and this goes into the same thing, right? When we talked about Dog man, it's like, what is it? Is it physical? Is it this? Is it that? Even the craft, is it Organic? Is it plasma? Is it reverse engineered craft that the military has gotten their hands on and then created their own thing? It's like, why not all of those things? I think what we're actually dealing with here is so multifaceted that there is somebody's got to be getting a kick out of watching the conspiracy community speculate and argue with one another about the nature of these things, when it's really like we're all kind of right.
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Tommy Cullum
Yeah, yeah, for sure. And all these answers could be right. Like all the arguments could be, as you said, could be right. There could be truth in all of these things. You know, it might just, with the UFO phenomena, it might not be just one aspect. You know, there might be, there could be alien beings coming from another planet, you know, I don't know, but. Or it could just be interdimensional. It could be all of them, you know, that, that one, that might be why there is this confusion and the arguments, you know, and I don't know, you go down one rabbit hole and there's another 10, as you guys know, and it's hard to sort of pinpoint what is really going on.
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David Lee Corbo
It becomes much more difficult too, if you consider for a moment that any of the interactions people are having with cryptids or aliens or otherwise these non human entities, if there is communication, this whole entire thing becomes muddied. If they have the ability to lie about their nature, then the whole thing gets thrown out of whack. But. And I guess that's just why we're left here to kind of writhe in confusion. But you mentioned living in front of this forest, the Devil Dogs Forest and delicious cream filled Pastry Forest. And I'm curious, Tommy, what, what is it that you've had, you know, in regards to experiences?
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Tommy Cullum
I have to say I'm the one who's named it the Devil Dog Forest. So I, I call it the Devil Dog Forest. It is, it is, it's a forest behind me, a huge heathland area. And so when I first moved to this area, so I'm originally from Essex, which is like right next to London. And like most people in 2020, you know, my world changed and I was like, I need to go somewhere else. You know, I need to get out to the country or to the beach. I'm close to the seaside now, so that, that's why I moved here. I wanted to get away. I love London, don't get me wrong, but I wanted to get out. I didn't want to be trapped there if they're going to trap us again. I don't want to be there. Yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
I want to be someone of the smart.
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Tommy Cullum
I wanna, I want to be somewhere where there's forests and a lot of.
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David Lee Corbo
People didn't make that decision. A lot of people are still right in the place that they got locked down in wild.
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Tommy Cullum
They're waiting for it again. Yeah, yeah, it's quite worrying but for me that was a big eye opener. I would. Had a bit, bit of a conspiracy mind but for me that was like, yep, this is, this is real now we gotta go. So I really want to get to the us. That's my, that's my goal. So I've got to do sit in the UK and then the next hopefully will be the us. That's, that's the goal. So I moved here in. So it was three years ago now pretty much. Just, just. Yeah, just about three years ago. And I didn't know anything about the area. We, we knew the area because we used to come on holiday here for like weekends and stuff. So we knew the area but didn't know anyone. Didn't really know about the culture of the place or anything. Even though it's only two hours from where I'm from, it's very different to London. You know, people are very different, they talk different. It's like you're in another country really. But it's weird. So I moved to this area, didn't know anything about like the land. We've only moved here because it's got a nice forest behind us and as I say, we're near beaches and stuff. So weird things started happening when I first moved here which I, I now put towards possibly being involved with the devil dog forest. You know, I'm not saying 100 so when I first moved I've always been like someone who stays up late at night and, and watches TV or whatever late at night. I've always been a night owl. And when I first moved I used to hear like a growling outside the window. Right outside my window. Now we, we live in a street where there's, there's a lot of people. You know, people have got dogs. You know, we're not in the middle of nowhere. So it could have been a dog, you know, someone could have been letting their dog out at night and it's growling outside my window. Quite strange at 2, 3 o'clock in the morning. But there we go.
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David Lee Corbo
So I was a good time, not a good time.
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Tommy Cullum
So I would, I would hear growling and I would look out my window and I never saw A dog. And I'm like, okay, this is a bit weird, you know, but, you know, it must be a dog because what else is it? You know? And then obviously. So we got the forest before. I've got a puppy now, but he's 2 years old. But before I had the dog, we still went to the forest every day. I go to the forest every day now with the dog. But before I had the dog, I still used to, like, take the kids up to the forest. And we had this one strange night. Me and my two daughters went to the forest and it was like, getting dusk. It wasn't fully dark, but it was getting there. And we're walking to, like, quite a high area in the forest. And my eldest, Amy, just started freaking out. Like, really started freaking out. Very out of character. She's like, dad, dad, there's a bigfoot over there. Like, and she's. I honestly, and I know that sounds crazy like, but she's saying there's a Bigfoot. And I'm like, babe, calm down. There's, there's nothing there. I couldn't see anything. I'm like, there's nothing there. Calm down. I'm thinking in my mind now she's watched too much Finding Bigfoot that I watch, and she's, she's sort of imagining this or, you know, scaring herself, but she's like, no, I see it. It's really big. It looks like a Bigfoot with yellow eyes. And she's describing it to me and I'm like, okay, I'm starting to get freaked out. You know, let's get, let's get home. Let's get home. So we've, we've come back home. I told the wife about it. I think she's watched one of my documentaries. You know, it's probably that's the case, which is, you know, wrong with me now when you consider what I talk about every day, you know. Yeah, but I, I, that's what I put it down to. And then I was talking to someone where I started working. So I started working locally in a night job near where I live. And someone was telling me about the, the forest that we live in and the history of it and that it's got a devil dog law. They call it the devil dog, and apparently it's in books and, and, you know, stuff like that. And she's telling me that people see like a dog man. How you describe a dog man? You know, they see red eyes in the forest and it's like a legend. But she's had experiences where she's seen stuff and she's like, smelt weird stuff and had weird experiences in the devil dog forest. So I'm like, okay, so that's weird. So I was having the growling. My daughter saw that weird thing in the forest. So I'm like, okay, maybe that's the devil dog, you know, I mean, I'm not. Not saying it definitely is, but. So that was quite strange. And then we got. Then we got a puppy. So I've got a little Staffordable terrier now. Lovely little dog. He's fearless. Like, he's not scared of anyone or anything. You know, he's a cool little dog. And I take him to the forest every day. And on two occasions, one with me, one with my wife, on separate occasions, we've, we've. So the forest is quite big, so we're always doing different routes and stuff like that. And. And on this one occasion, me, the kids and the wife were walking a dog for the forest. I'm at the front with Blue, my dog, and all of a sudden he stopped and just basically cracked himself. You know, there was something he was seeing in front of us and he's like backing up, backing up. And in this forest, you know, we've got balls. There's like wild bulls that walk around and there's loads of stuff that you would think might scare him, but don't scare him. And I'd run towards balls and stuff like that. He's crazy and. But something scared him, something's freaked him out. And I can't see anything, right? So there's nothing in front of me. There's nothing that should scare this dog. Okay. So I've had to literally pick him up and he's trembling and I'm walking through this area that he's getting scared all of a sudden. I'm looking around, you know, is there someone here? Is there. Is there some other dog or something that's freaking him out? Nothing. Can't see anything. Put him down. We've got through this little area, he's fine again, he's good to go. Nothing, nothing. What, what, what? What's going on? Let's go. Like, he's back to normal, but he really was really weird. I've had him for two years now. I've only seen. I've only seen him do it once. He took the misses Took him out a little while after that. Same sort of thing. He just freaked out at this certain area. It wasn't the same here. It was a different area in the forest. But Same thing. Freaked out or nothing. Like. And I'm not saying that's the devil dog, but he saw something, man. And dogs see things. Dogs, like children, they see things that we don't see. He definitely freaked out at something. Something gave him a dog that is pretty fearless, I'll say. You know, he's. He's not scared of any other dogs. You know, he can get quite aggressive to dogs, which I don't like. I'm trying to stop him doing that, but he can. And. And, you know, but he's not scared of anything. And he was very scared at this moment, whatever it was, something he could sense or see. So I kind of put that in the devil dog bracket. Even though.
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David Lee Corbo
How did you feel when that happened?
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Tommy Cullum
Like, I didn't. I didn't get anything at that moment. Like, I didn't get. I was quite freaked out that he was freaked out, to be honest.
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David Lee Corbo
Right.
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Tommy Cullum
Because I was like, his dog doesn't get scared and there's nothing there. I can't see anything unless there's someone hiding in the bushes and. But I couldn't see anyone or anything. So it's very strange. That is strange. Then there was another time. So I bought my two daughters new bikes, and we went for a bike ride through the forest. And there was this little area where the girls like to ride off. And it's not that long. It's like, I know, a quarter of a mile or whatever. Whatever. It's only like a short little ride that they go off. And I can watch them go down this little route and they come back. So anyway, they've gone down this route and I'm watching them ride off, and all of a sudden at the end, this. This is seeing something. And I'm not 100 sure what it was, but there was like, this. I thought it was a fox at first. I'm like, that's a fox. But it was gray, but it looked like the shape of fox, and it was quite big. And I'm like, that's not a fox. That is a big dog. And I'm like, oh, no. The kids are going right towards it. Anyway, my. My two daughters both saw this spun round, you know, they were petrified and started riding back to me. My. My little daughter, she fell over and I'm like, go. So I'm just running towards her to pick her up. I've looked up. This thing's gone. Wherever this thing was, it's gone. No owner. Because I'm thinking, okay, it's a big dog. Maybe the owner's called it back or whatever, maybe it was that. But I picked my little daughter up, I said, you're right babe, you're okay, you're okay. She went, daddy was a wolf. And I was like, well I don't think it was a wolf darling, but you know it. And I'm thinking that did look quite weird. And, and I was freaked out at that point. At that moment I was like, whoa. Now that is, that's pretty wild. Devil dog. Devil dog is going through my mind and, and anyway we've got home and yeah, that's kind of the experiences that I've had there, man. So it's, is that an area where.
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David Lee Corbo
You'Re gonna get like a lot of wildlife that is in excess of the size of like, you know, raccoons and such?
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Tommy Cullum
I mean we, there shouldn't be wolves there, that's for sure. Right there is big balls. But I think they're put there by like local farmers and stuff that they're owned, but they are like running free in that forest. There's horses there, there's, there's deer, you know, snakes, badgers, foxes. But no wolves. There shouldn't be wolves. I mean big cats possibly. People see big cats in the UK and as I said, my mother in law saw one 20 years ago in the UK so yeah, there could be stuff like that. But. Very strange man, very strange. And I don't like to say that I saw a dog man or a werewolf or whatever, but that is what happened and that is why I call it the Devil Dog forest.
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David Lee Corbo
It's, it's funny because we, especially when it comes to kids, like we will say that kids have a certain sensitivity. They can perceive these things better than, than adults can. But in at it's a two edged sword because you also have to sort of temper everything you say and be careful not to lead them in a direction where they're going to become, you know, prone to, I don't know, sensationalizing something or you know, because I think it is like, you know, my, my kid will do that with his friends. Like I, I remember we used to live in an apartment and he would play in the hallway with his friends and all the kids would ever play is there was a stairwell because we were on the, the third floor and in the stairwell there was like a monster. That's what they would say. And who knows, maybe in hindsight they actually saw some crap. But they, they, that's what the kids would do. They would all run to the stairwell and then, you know, there's like 12 of them. And then next thing you know, they'd all come running away from the stairwell, screaming that they all saw something, but they keep going back. And so, you know, like, kids are prone to doing that. And then it becomes very problematic when your kid can't sleep at night. For me, that's the whole main thing is, like, I just want to be able to sleep. I don't want you to have to crawl into my bed because, you know, you think you're seeing a greasy monster. So what a strange juxtaposition to be in where it's like, yes, children can perceive these things also when they do lie to their face. Lie to their face so you'll never get another light night of sleep again. You know what I mean? And so, yeah, it's. It's a hard wire to walk. I have had it with my son.
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Top Lobster
That you're protecting them, because if you're like. If you're telling them what they're seeing is real, which it might be, you're. You're almost telling them to give it consent, right? And when you do that, that just invites more of it. That's the part that scares me because I'm like, it. Could they be making stuff up? Maybe. Depends on the age, depends on what they've been exposed to already. Depends on your reaction to it. But certainly if it is happening to them and you kind of, like, feed into it, I don't. I don't really know the right answer. I don't know the real.
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David Lee Corbo
So with my son, when he was maybe three, and he hadn't been exposed to any of this sort of thing yet at all, now I know he can hear, like, through the door when I'm doing my show and stuff like that, and he watches, like, so much of the stuff that they gear towards children is spooky and, like, I really don't like that. But he'll catch a glimpse of it, or his friends at school talk about it or whatever. We don't let him watch it at the house because I like to be able to sleep also. Don't want to be tormented by demons. But when he was like three, he didn't tell me this till years later, actually. This is just something that happened when he was three, and then he overheard a discussion about it, I think. Or no, no, he didn't even overhear a discussion. I remember how this went now. So years later, we didn't even live in the same house. And Netflix had a documentary on sleep paralysis, and the COVID photo for that documentary was an image of the hat man. So I'm just skimming through, you know, Netflix's. But maybe it wasn't Netflix. Might have been Hulu. It doesn't matter. And he saw that thumbnail and he goes, I know who that guy is. And I about shit a brick because I also know who that guy is. And anybody who's like, you know, paying attention to the paranormal space knows who the hat man is. And so, you know, you got to be really careful about how you answer it. And I just try to answer it in a way that I would if he said anything else, which is like, oh, yeah, okay, that's interesting. Very interesting. And he starts talking about. He goes, yeah, when we lived in the old house. And I just know he was about three years old when we lived in that house. He goes, I was. I would wake up and I would see him walking up and down the hallways. And other times he said he would see him if he looked out the window. He would see him standing in the driveway underneath the floodlight that goes off when, like, you know, an animal comes by and the floodlight turns on. And he said, when I saw him, I couldn't get up because there was like, belts all over my body tying me to the bed. Which is like, you know, a child's way of describing sleep paralysis.
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Tommy Cullum
Yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
And. And I go, wow, check that out, man. That's.
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Top Lobster
Shut up, dude.
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David Lee Corbo
Shut the hell, dude. Let me tell you, there was another time, too. So when he said that, that's literally I. I couldn't feed him anything. Eventually I did tell him, if you see that guy, call on Jesus Christ. That's what I, what I told him. And I, I elaborated a little bit more. I said, like, he can't hurt you. But, like, because he. Because it comes up in conversation as the years go on again and again, and eventually he gets more and more. And I basically tell him, like, lots of people see him and I, we don't know exactly what he wants, but you're not alone. Like, a lot of people seen him. I've seen him. You know, your grandparents have seen him, yada, yada. Call on Jesus Christ, it'll fix the belts. You'll be able to move again and he'll go away. And so, you know, it'll fix the belts. Yeah, but one time in that house, dude. So it's a two story house with a finished basement, but when you walk in the front door, you're not on the bottom floor or on the top floor, you're on a landing. And then there's. There's a staircase to go down or there's a staircase to go up. So one day he walks down the staircase. We're all upstairs, and he goes down to that landing, and he looks into the basement, and he just starts screaming. No words, no nothing. In fact, he was so little because in that house, you know, we left by the time he was three. So this could have been two years old or something. He never vocalized what it is he saw, but I know that he was frozen and he was screaming, and whatever it was had him so terrified that he was in terror. But he could not leave from what he was looking at. I had to rush down and scoop him up, look down there. There's nothing there. And then bring him back upstairs and, like, console him. So it's just another one of those things, right, where it's like kids can perceive for whatever reason, they're. They're like, closer to the veil. But then it's like what your job is, is damage control, right? So you're just trying to try to help him rationalize this. I don't want to dismiss it. I certainly don't want to tell him that the things aren't real, because I don't know if that's. That's a good thing to do. If.
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Tommy Cullum
Yeah, I. I don't do that. I don't.
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David Lee Corbo
Because I think they don't want you to. They want you to think they're not real. The longer that they can go without you identifying that this is an intruder. This is something external to yourself. This is something that needs to leave, and that you do, in fact, have the power to get them to leave. They don't want that at all, because that's where it ends. It ends with you figuring out that through the name of Jesus Christ, you can expel these things from your home. And, you know, but without that, you can't do that. So they'd rather you think that they're not real at all.
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Tommy Cullum
100, man. I had experiences when I was a kid as well, which is probably why I do this show. Because I saw things as a kid that, you know, for me, this is all real, you know, from. From an early age. I've never doubted it. So I don't. When my kids see stuff, I don't say, you know, you didn't see that. I'm like, okay, as you said, they can't hurt you, you know, and. And Jesus's name is very powerful as well. And I tell you very recently. So I think having these Conversations. You, you can invite these things in. Like 100 you. Since I started doing let's Get Freaky, I've always experienced paranormal stuff in my life. But since starting the show I, I noticed an uptick of weirdness happening.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
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Tommy Cullum
And I was like, I'm inviting this stuff in, man. And gets scary as you know. And something like quite recently happened in the house where it seemed to be. It wasn't just me experiencing stuff. The kids were experiencing a lot of stuff. The wife started experiencing a lot of stuff. And it got to a point when I was like, wow. And out loud I said, you know, in Jesus's name, whatever you are, you are not welcome here. Leave. And, and, and it stopped. It like what was going on stopped. And so I 100 that there, there is so much power there, man.
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David Lee Corbo
You know what it is? It's like these things, they don't. They. So if you've got an enemy that operates by night, they don't want that. As long as you don't know they're there. They have a constant advantage. So part of what they do is they don't want you to talk about it. They don't want to want you to know they're there. The other thing that they do is when you decide to talk about it, you effectively have stepped into the arena and now it's time for them. I would say what they're doing is. It's almost like a arriving. Right. It's a, it's a last ditch effort. He's on to us. But if we can scare him enough then. But that, that ends up blowing up in their face a lot of the time. Because I think what a lot of people need is a real moment where they actually see these things. They actually have these experiences. If they're too subtle, you can brush it under the rug, which is what they want. But if it's big enough and you have to then tango with the fact that this thing doesn't fit into your worldview but it has happened to you, then you have a couple of conclusions to draw. Or you can ignore it and stay out of the arena. But I think as soon as you get in that arena in a big way. So, yeah, to your point, Tommy, you said it started with, when you started doing your show, that this thing had an uptick, massive uptick in my life as soon as I started doing the show. In fact, the inception of the show when, when Top and I had a phone conversation and said we should do this, that night I was in New Orleans on vacation at the time when he called me. And that night at the stroke of midnight, something banged on my third story hotel room window, which didn't make sense because we didn't have a balcony. And we're on the third story and it's a. It's a floor to ceiling panel. And so I wake up to the definitive sound. You know, when you smack on a big glass panel, it resonates. It's like a bung bong, bong. So that happens. My eyes pop open and I'm so accustomed to this that I kind of go, well, I'm in New Orleans. And you know, that checks out. And. And so. And I realized my wife didn't hear it. So I go, is what it is. I've tangled with this before. I'm just going back to bed. And then as soon as I drift off, I hear it again, but this time it's on a different surface, much more like a door. And my wife pops up and she goes, did you hear that? And I went, oh, man. So I finally get up out of bed.
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Top Lobster
It's real.
- [85:12]
David Lee Corbo
I start walking towards the door to go investigate. I look at the oven and the oven says 12 o'clock on the dot. On the dot. Not 1201, 12 o'clock even. And I look out the peephole to the front door, and it's got a good panoramic view. So you can see all the way down the hallway on in each direction. Not a soul is in that hallway. I didn't open.
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Tommy Cullum
Right.
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David Lee Corbo
Because you never know if somebody could be crouching there. But that's not why I didn't open. I just don't think it's a good idea when something knocks. You shouldn't open the door. You really shouldn't open the door. And I mean that in a very literal sense. There's a figurative and a literal sense. All of these things operate on consent. When is knocking everywhere. And I've had the knocking before when I started my old show, the Ravens Watch, which was very much the same thing. Right. It's like, you know, biblical worldview, exploring the paranormal. These things were knocking on all my windows and all my doors. All around my house, there was silhouettes of men standing. Standing in the window of my niece's bedroom there. I mean, we watched black mist scurry across my front lawn and like so much insane. And I would say it's all because I stepped into the arena.
- [86:23]
Tommy Cullum
Yeah.
- [86:24]
David Lee Corbo
And that's what they you off. Yeah, they don't want that. They want you neutral or, you know, in the. They don't want you aware at all that you're engaged in warfare 100, man.
- [86:36]
Tommy Cullum
I had it literally a few weeks ago in this room. So I, I normally work early hours of the morning, since about the witching hour, like 3:00 in the morning again. And I just heard. I don't know if you can hear it through this, but just like that, like that loud. That loud and just constant, like, I wasn't stopping. And I'm like, what the. Oh, my dog started barking. But I, I, I literally, I'm, like looking around and it's just going off. Tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap. And I'm looking around and I'm like, this is wild. Like, in my mind, I'm like, something must have fallen and he's bouncing. You know, that's the only thing it could be. But there's nothing fallen, nothing's bouncing. And I just started, like, laughing to myself. So this is crazy, man. And then it stopped.
- [87:17]
David Lee Corbo
And I was like, I think the, the knocking. So the knocking is something that a lot of people might be familiar with. There's a, there's something that they, like, I don't know, colloquial, colloquially. I'm going to make up a word there. I'm not going to do that. There's something that they call. Go ahead, try local oily.
- [87:38]
Tommy Cullum
I know that word.
- [87:40]
David Lee Corbo
Yeah. You know what I'm saying? They call it. It's a phenomenon that, you know, sometimes the scientific community or the medical industry will give something a name and that creates like this air of, I don't know, like, we understand it. We definitely don't understand it. They call it exploding head syndrome. You could look it up and it's this idea that, like, people are woken up out of sleep by, like, somebody shouting their name or somebody banging on something.
- [88:03]
Tommy Cullum
I've heard that. Yeah.
- [88:04]
David Lee Corbo
Yeah. The banging is a really common one. I've had that experience myself. And, and it's like a knocking. And I think, you know, it's. It's like that vampire rule. There was a movie called Let, Let the Right One In, I think came out like a decade ago. And they really got into that. Like, you have to. So a. There's a girl that plays a vampire. I think she loves like a, A boy and. But they go through this thing where she has to be invited in. So I think that knocking is so much more significant than people might imagine. I don't think it's. What is a door? What is a window? These are portals, right? Literally in the most literal sense, it's called a portal. It's the entry point from one place into another. And so the, the symbolism of knocking on a portal is, is, I think it's, it's a way of trying to gain access into you because that's ultimately what they want, right? The, the portal that they really want to pass through is one that gives them access to this physical realm. But these things, they suck. And they pretty much can only experience the physical realm through you. They can inhabit you if you give them the consent. And so that consent comes in a lot of different forms. And the way they ask for it is this knocking, man. And, and I think that's even significant too. I mean, if you look at the whole Bigfoot phenomenon just to kind of bring it back, back full circle. One of the things that he's super known for is just knocking against trees. Knocking, Knocking, knocking.
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Tommy Cullum
Yeah, yeah.
- [89:38]
David Lee Corbo
That could be an intimidation tactic. It doesn't have to be like a spiritual principle at all. But I'm just saying like, that, that concept of like knocking to gain entry, to ask for permission, it, it permeates all of this like spiritual cryptid crap. And just whatever the case is. I saw somebody, I think it might have been our homie Gray pill. There he is. He says, if you hear a knock in your dreams, don't open the door. Just don't open the door, period. If you hear knocking. And it's not like, I know in the Bible it talks about Jesus Christ stands at the door and like the door is just over and over again. It's a theme. The portal is a theme. The knocking, the asking for entry is a theme. I think you do have to invite because I think we're like a. There's a void within us and it can be filled with a, an external spiritual aspect. And the one you want to fill it with is the Holy Spirit. But I don't think you get to go around like an empty vessel. I think you have to at some point concede and ask something to, you know, enter you. And, you know, if you're smart, it's the Holy Spirit. If you're kind of around maybe screwing with a Ouija board, even the interaction in just, in just a conversational based platform is some form of consent. And you're now filling that void that we all seem to have with a different spirit. And that's, that's what they want. So I think all that knocking is like, it's, it's something so simple, but I think it goes over all our heads.
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Tommy Cullum
Yeah, you think of all the paranormal shows, what is the main form of communication? Knocking.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
- [91:10]
Tommy Cullum
Knock once if you're, if you're. Yes, you know, not twice if you're a man, you know, and, and that is the form of communication. That is the main way that, that that happens.
- [91:20]
David Lee Corbo
Yeah. Arcane arsenals here says knock on wood to call on the spirits. This, this knocking is. We have become very comfortable here on Nephilim Death Squad with the idea that the spiritual realm is incredibly legalistic and it is all based on consent and permission. And if you look at the way that even Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit is described in the Bible, it's. You have to ask, right? You have to ask the Holy Spirit to enter you, you have to ask God, you have to ask Jesus Christ for forgiveness. All of this is like, we have a lot more free will in this realm. We can make a lot of decisions and, but it's like, it's almost as simple as, like. Yeah, you gotta ask. You have to ask. And, and intention. Yes, it's intention. Yeah, correct. Well, Tommy, we are now at the hour and a half mark. I think it's a good place to, to land the episode. It's a great conversation and I want to thank you for your time and, and for kicking it with us in the audience. But speaking of audience, for those who might not remember where to find you and your work, where should they go?
- [92:30]
Tommy Cullum
Oh, firstly, thank you so much. It's been an honor being on with you guys. Thank you so much. We are wherever you find podcasts, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, Tommy Cullums, let's get freaky. We're also now on YouTube as well, so you can, you can subscribe on YouTube and, and I put the, I put the episodes out in full on YouTube as well. So yeah, come and come and come say hi, man. And if you have any paranormal experiences to share, we'd love to hear them. So come over. Thank you very much, guys.
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Top Lobster
Oh, thanks. Thanks for coming on, man. Guys, Tommy's links are going to be in the description of this video when it's released. But until then, man, don't forget to obey, submit and comply. We'll see you guys later. Peace out.
- [93:09]
Tommy Cullum
The greatest hypnotist on planet earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. You can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see to go. Because they'll lack in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening, and they have.