144: Debunking the Telepathy Tapes Pt. 1

Summary

Nephilim Death Squad - Episode 144: Debunking the Telepathy Tapes Pt. 1
Host/Author: TopLobsta Productions
Release Date: March 26, 2025

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Introduction

In Episode 144, titled "Debunking the Telepathy Tapes Pt. 1," the hosts David Lee Corbo and Top Lobster from TopLobsta Productions delve into the mysterious phenomenon known as the Telepathy Tapes. This episode explores claims surrounding telepathic abilities in non-verbal autistic children, linking them to historical mind control experiments and intelligence agency involvements. The discussion is rich with conspiracy theories, ethical concerns, and speculative connections to broader spiritual and extraterrestrial narratives.

Main Discussion Points

1. Overview of the Telepathy Tapes

The episode begins with the hosts introducing the Telepathy Tapes, a series highlighting non-verbal autistic children who seemingly communicate telepathically with their parents. These tapes suggest that these children can perceive and relay thoughts, numbers, and images without conventional communication methods.

David Lee Corbo (07:07): "You should have listened to all of our shit right at the top of the show."

2. Andreja Puharich and Historical Context

Andreja Puharich, an inventor and researcher from the mid-20th century, is discussed as a pivotal figure connecting telepathy with technological experiments. Puharich's work with dental implants that could pick up radio frequencies is linked to anecdotal accounts, such as Lucille Ball experiencing unexplained radio signals through dental work.

Top Lobster (07:32): "We stumbled upon this thing regarding the Telepathy tapes. Obviously, there's going to be a huge overlap between that and Andreja."

3. MK Ultra and Mind Control Theories

The hosts draw parallels between the Telepathy Tapes and MK Ultra, the infamous CIA mind control program. They speculate that modern experiments may involve using vaccinations filled with heavy metals to suppress natural psychic abilities, thereby manipulating human consciousness on a large scale.

Top Lobster (06:30): "Aggressive, but okay, that's fine. So, yeah, he."

4. Autism as Suppression of Psychic Abilities

A central theory presented is that autism might not solely be a neurological condition but also indicative of suppressed psychic abilities. The Telepathy Tapes are posited as evidence that certain abilities are resurfacing or being induced through external manipulations like vaccinations.

David Lee Corbo (30:13): "Telepathy is the ability to communicate thoughts, feelings or information directly from one mind to another without using any physical or sensory means."

5. Spiritual and Extraterrestrial Connections

The discussion extends to spiritual and extraterrestrial realms, suggesting that the telepathic abilities displayed by these children may involve communication with entities beyond our current understanding. References to ancestor spirits and remote viewing indicate a broader consciousness that transcends physical limitations.

Top Lobster (35:18): "And when we look at this, they're all just one big conjoined picture."

6. Ethical Implications and Parental Perspectives

The hosts express concern over the ethical ramifications of these alleged experiments. They highlight the emotional struggles of parents with non-verbal autistic children who now face the complexity of their children's emerging abilities, questioning whether these abilities are a form of liberation or further manipulation.

Top Lobster (63:32): "For them, I mean, it's got to be huge. It's."

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• David Lee Corbo (06:24): "It's going to be a 30 minute preview. Sometime around the 30 minute mark, we'll be going live exclusively to patreon.com backslash Nephilim Death Squad..."

• Top Lobster (07:32): "We stumbled upon this thing regarding the Telepathy tapes. Obviously, there's going to be a huge overlap between that and Andreja."

• Top Lobster (11:06): "You're a piece of shit. Number two, you have this uncanny ability to take action on things..."

• David Lee Corbo (16:59): "It is a word."

• Top Lobster (34:52): "It's like a human planchet?"

• Top Lobster (35:18): "And when we look at this, they're all just one big conjoined picture."

• David Lee Corbo (30:13): "Telepathy is the ability to communicate thoughts, feelings or information directly from one mind to another without using any physical or sensory means."

Conclusion

In this episode, "Debunking the Telepathy Tapes Pt. 1," Nephilim Death Squad hosts David Lee Corbo and Top Lobster present a complex and controversial examination of telepathic phenomena in non-verbal autistic children. They intertwine historical accounts, such as Andreja Puharich's experiments, with modern-day conspiracy theories involving intelligence agencies and mind control programs like MK Ultra. The hosts raise critical questions about the ethical implications of these alleged experiments and the true nature of the abilities being displayed. As the episode unfolds, they set the stage for further exploration into these dark and intricate theories, promising deeper insights in subsequent episodes.

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Note: This summary is based solely on the provided transcript and reflects the viewpoints expressed by the hosts in Episode 144. It does not endorse or verify the accuracy of these theories.

Transcript

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[Top Lobster]

A world that is being run run by unbelievably sick people.

[David Lee Corbo]

The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going.

[Kai Dickens]

On is absolutely enormous.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh yeah, dude, there's some Nephilim.

[Top Lobster]

It's like we all know what's going down but no one's saying what happened to the home of the brave? They control us now when no one's talking about how they. Man, it's finally slaves and everybody's just walking around heading the clouds I won't awaken to a dead in the grave but then it's too late. We need to be ready to raise up. Welcome to the end of days. Everybody is slaves Only some are aware that the government releasing poison in the air. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad. I am David Lee Corbo, AKA the Raven, that is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation. Before we get into today's show, a quick announcement. This is only going to be a 30 minute preview. Sometime around the 30 minute mark, we'll be going live exclusively to patreon.com backslash Nephilim Death Squad where you can sign up, enjoy an ad free viewing experience, gain access to the content before the general public does, and you could do it all for free. That's right, guys. Sign up for a seven day free trial, try to absorb as much content as humanly possible in that seven days and get out before the billing cycle kicks in. But you won't be able to do it because patreon.com backslash nephilim death squad is a treasure trove of content. We got a lot of backlog on there.

[David Lee Corbo]

I've never scrolled down this far on the page, but if you scroll down all the way to here, you click the Spotify button. It's kind of crazy. I was trying to explain this to people. Click that button, you'll get the, you'll get the podcast ad free and you'll get it early. So. And you'll be able to watch it on or watch and listen on Spotify, which is pretty cool. Apparently some other podcast apps as well. But yeah, that's what we're doing for you guys, building something real nice, something special.

[Top Lobster]

Eventually we are going to have to change it though, right, Top? I mean, the problem with Patreon is that they will nuke you. Once we get big enough and they realize what we're actually, actually saying here, they're probably going to nuke us. In which case we'll have to consolidate someplace else in some other shady corner of the Internet in order to avoid persecution and censorship. But in the meantime, these guys, they.

[David Lee Corbo]

Say crazy on there, dude. It's wild. I'm like I watch them, and I'm like, oh, God. Should I ask him not to say that? But I. I guess I let him rock. It's fine.

[Top Lobster]

I don't know when. Yeah. I don't know what it is that crosses the line because it happened to Tower Gang, right? Tower Gang got nuked from Patreon, and you guys lost your. The money that was in there. So, yeah, that was a cautionary tale.

[David Lee Corbo]

That was a lot of fun. There was, like, a couple thousand dollars in there that was lost.

[Top Lobster]

Oh, my God. Really?

[David Lee Corbo]

That was our fault, though. We were asking them, we were like, submit your mailbags here. And they were just going nuts. Mark Vestibule was probably the guy who did it, but it's fine. It's all right.

[Top Lobster]

That's interesting. Well, either way, guys, you know, that might be a bridge we have to cross in the future, but in the meantime, patreon.com Nephilim Death Squad is a great place to be. Now, you might be asking, what is today's episode about?

[David Lee Corbo]

And where is the guest?

[Top Lobster]

And where is the guest who was so late? There was never a guest. It was us the entire time. And. And to be honest, we weren't even late. We were sitting here. We've been sitting, honestly, for 20 minutes.

[David Lee Corbo]

I was looking at the screen. We did some clerical work. I was waiting. I. I invited Ian Carroll last minute. He didn't show up. He actually went and did his own episode about this, which is kind of shady a little bit. He did it as I asked him. I was like, we're doing an episode on the telepathy tapes. Do you want to do that? And he was like, hold on.

[Top Lobster]

And he said, actually, his. And his response was really fast. What's really strange is whenever you reach out to somebody, they take a long time to get back to you. As soon as we started to type in, hey, do you want it? We could see his little emoji at the bottom. He was typing at the same time. The second we hit send, another message came in. All it said was, fuck you. So, you know, I guess to each his own. He's got better things to do. Bigger fish to fry. But the fish are very similar to the fish we're here to fry today. It's.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's. It stings a little bit more when it's coming from such a high angle. He was like, fuck you?

[Top Lobster]

Like, yeah, yeah, Very high angle, very.

[David Lee Corbo]

Aggressive, but okay, that's fine. So, yeah, he. So again, I like. I like. Ian Carroll does great work. This has been a subject that we've been talking about for a little while. And it's actually interesting because I. I kind of, like, spurged on him when I saw that he. He was doing this episode, and I was like, yo, I was doing that episode. But, yes, but there's two of us.

[Top Lobster]

Explain to people a little bit about, like. So, all right, first off, right at the top of the show, you should have already listened to the NDS Deep Dive on Puharij. That would have been.

[David Lee Corbo]

You should have listened to all of our shit right at the top of the show.

[Top Lobster]

Right, right. But if you're not doing that, at the bare minimum, pause this shit. This isn't going to make any sense. Go back and listen to the Deep Dive with Puharij or on Puhari and then come back, because this is a sort of a rejoinder to that. This is a continuation of that narrative. And so Top and I have had this topic that we. We stumbled upon, and it's interesting even the way that we stumbled upon it. Right, Top? Because I just called you and I told you that, like, my gut was telling me that there was something significant about the Telepathy tapes, but not in the way that everybody thinks. There it is, guys. 133. Andreja Puharich in NDS Deep Dive. Go and check that out, because a lot of this is not going to make sense unless you have that context. I don't even really remember what we talked about, so hopefully we talked about.

[David Lee Corbo]

A guy named Andrea Puhar for two hours and 14 minutes. But there's a lot to talk about with this guy because we're still not done. Apparently we're still going hard on this one dude because it's very important. So, yeah, and this is something.

[Top Lobster]

Go ahead.

[David Lee Corbo]

When we cut you guys off at about 30 minutes, you guys can go over there and watch that. I'll link it in the description or something like that. I'll put it. I'll put it in the chat for you guys because. Yes, I know. I know how y'all are. Y'all are.

[Top Lobster]

You know, it needs to be really easy. It needs to be really easy. If we can come into your house and put it on your phone, I think that would probably be the best way to do it.

[David Lee Corbo]

Or put it on your tv, leave your door unlocked. We'll be there tonight.

[Top Lobster]

So. So Top and I have stumbled upon this thing regarding the Telepathy tapes. Obviously there's going to be a huge overlap between that and Andreja. And so we wanted to present this in a way that was going to be coherent, which is not necessarily our strong suit. Our strong suit is going to be kind of shooting from the hip and having these organic conversations. But we know that this topic is very important. We've talked about it. Some of you guys have got a peek on that. It was. We talked about it on the Occult Rejects episode. We talked about it on the recent episode of Dangerous Retards with Clint Russell. We also talked about it, I think, in a. In a previous episode of just NDs before that. So it's come up a lot. And we've been worried about letting the cat out of the bag. And it seems that we don't have a choice. We wanted to present this in a particular way, but we were concerned that somebody else might pick up on what we're picking up on.

[David Lee Corbo]

And also, like, we can't stop talking about.

[Top Lobster]

It was supposed to be a secret. It was supposed to be a secret. And people in the chat were like, good God, they can't keep any secrets, can they? Because we kept alluding to this. And then by alluding to it, we would just tell you almost exactly what the hell we're talking about. And so turns out that my wife even said it. She goes, babe, that's a pretty compelling idea. You guys have to move soon. Because once an idea is in the ether, people just seem to pick up.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, tell them what happened. Tell them what happened with Paul Stobbs. And shout out to Paul Stobbs for making it to the big show. Joe Rogan, he's not on yet. I don't think Joe Rogan has British people on, so that's unfortunate. So no, British, British, British.

[Top Lobster]

Oh, they said Jewish. I thought I was like, it's nds we're talking about Jews. So, okay, first off, yeah, big congratulations to Paul Stobbs and also to JT Follows JC because these guys, for all the contention that we have with like the little seasoners, the little season has made it to the big stage. Eddie Bravo brought it up to Joe Rogan and he brought up Paul Stobbs name, which is incredible.

[David Lee Corbo]

Season has made the big stage.

[Top Lobster]

Yes, that's right. The little season made it to the big stage. So congratulations to Paul Staub. Love to see the homies winning. Especially it's because we're all in this to try to express what we feel is the truth, right? And none of us are here lying. I don't think that Paul Stobbs is a nefarious guy at all. So all of his heart, hard work and research is now making it to this big platform. And I love to see it. So what happened with Paul? Stops. Very interesting. I tell Top that I have this notion about the Telepathy tapes, and Top just decides to dive into it. I gotta say, dude, one of the things that I realized about you, I realized it like two days ago. You might be the mo. And this isn't to, you know, kiss your ass.

[David Lee Corbo]

Hold on, I had to preface this. Okay, I was gonna say I had to preface this being sold. No, no, no, no, no, no. Or are you going to blow me? So go ahead.

[Top Lobster]

Okay, I'm gonna blow you. But first, I'm gonna make it a sandwich. First off, number one, first and foremost, you're a piece of shit. Number two, you have this uncanny ability to. To take action on things. That's. That's like your number one thing. It's pretty incredible. A lot of people talk a lot of and they don't do anything. You're a person who talks a lot of and then pulls the trigger on all the shit you talk about, which is incredible. So in the minutia and the macro and the minutiae in this particular instance is I say, hey, Top, I have a feeling that there's something about the Telepathy tapes. Top just takes to it and he starts going in. Next thing you know, I get a phone call and it's about, hey, fucking Episode two. In the very beginning of this thing, they're talking about Puharij, who we just finished doing a deep dive on, which is a huge slap in the face as far as, like, wake up, dummy. There's something here, right? That's kind of uncanny, considering we've decided to dedicate, you know, whatever amount of resources and time and research into Paharidge. And now all of a sudden he's coming up on the telepathy tapes. Episode 2. In the very beginning, they're talking about Lucille Ball getting dental. Episode three, Episode three, My bad. Getting dental implants and having these, you know, being able to perceive voices and pick up radio frequencies and. And then all of a sudden, they drop his name. They don't even say it right. But I'm not going to make fun of them because I can't even say it right? So that's our first indication that there's really something here, right? And then, yes, guys, this is live shout out to Subliminal messenger only until the 30 minute mark. And then it's for Patreon members only. So we. We now realize, wow, there is something here. That's a pretty uncanny coincidence. And we start digging more and more, and we start to flesh out this conspiracy theory. Now, where Paul comes in is I say to top that, there's really something incredible here. And there's only one person who I think could organically stumble upon this, and this is Paul Stobbs. Right. Because Paul is a tenacious researcher, and he already has all the separate pieces of the puzzle that we have. So if he looks at this, he might look at it in. In a context that's very similar to how we see it. And as soon as I say that 15 minutes later, I shit you not, 15 minutes later, Paul Stobbs pops up in our telegram and he makes a joke.

[David Lee Corbo]

By the way, join the Patreon, and you can get into our telegram Members only channel. I don't know how the fuck Paul got there, because I'm pretty sure I.

[Top Lobster]

Know exactly how Paul got there. Paul got there because we. We have a mutual in common. His name is MK Ryan. I love MK Ryan. He has been a longtime supporter of. Excuse me. Ever since I was doing the Ravens Watch. So I start alluding to the chat because we've spilled the beans to some degree on the shows that we've made that look, we are gearing up to take on a Leviathan, and you guys will get to see what this Leviathan is as this show goes on.

[David Lee Corbo]

Hold on. Good question. Good question from Pim or Rose. Do you guys still believe that the drones were extraterrestrials? Yes and no.

[Top Lobster]

Right, right. I would say it was a mixture of a multitude of things. And I think that the flippant dismissal that we got from the Trump administration, just that a flippant dismissal, I think there was definitely something else going on there. And as far as extraterrestrials or, you know, entities from extra territories, I would say, like, interdimensional aspects is an extra territory. I don't think they're from space, but, I mean, you know, I could be wrong on that. So, yeah, to answer your question, Pim, you know, it's in there. It's. It's part of it. So, okay, so we talk about this, and I say, Paul Stobs is the only one that I think can organically discover this. Next thing you know, 15 minutes later, Paul stops for the first time I've had interactions with Paul. We've been buddies since the Ravens Watched Watch. Right. That's almost two years ago now. Not anymore. We're done. So. So Paul Stobbs shows up and he lands a banger of a joke. He says, hey, guys, because he's been queued in by MK Ryan that there is a cool theory that's unfolding and. And MK wants to know if Paul knows what we're talking about. So it happens organically on his end, despite the fact that 15 minutes prior we're talking about him in a exclusive chat with just me and Top, he shows up and he says, hey, guys, I'm here to co opt your conspiracy theory and present it as my own, which is incre. Very funny, Paul Stobbs, but he has no idea. And then I was just talking to him 15 or talking about him 15.

[David Lee Corbo]

Minutes ago, Lo and behold, Ian Carroll does it? Go figure.

[Top Lobster]

Then all of a sudden. So Paul Stobbs leaked our information to Ian Carroll.

[David Lee Corbo]

I'm pretty sure none of this is true, but we're out of our minds. I told this to Clint. I was like, clint, I think he's fucking, dude. And Clint's like, you guys need to calm down. You guys. He talked us off the edge of a cliff because we were. We were spiraling on Saturday. Was it.

[Top Lobster]

Well, whenever this happened. Because Ian Carroll basically goes. And if. Top, while I'm saying this, can you bring up his post? I don't know if you can find it, because I want to show the audience the thumbnail that he used for this. And you'll see why this thumbnail was significant as we go on. But all of a sudden, might have been Saturday fucking. Ian Carroll goes about to do a big show on the telepathy tapes, and he's alluding to an angle that nobody's seen yet or nobody's heard yet. And if we. There we go. So his, his. His thumbnail here is incredible because it's got the telepathy tapes, then it's got the tinfoil, which you guys know when it comes to the Buharij narrative, how the tin foil interacts with all that, you know, we're talking dental implants picking up signals and using tinfoil to block those signals. And then behind him is the seal of the Central Intelligence Agency, the CIA, which we know are integrally tied into the Puharij situation. And. Did I make up another word just now? And it's close. It might be integral. Let's look. It could be integrally a word. And so when we see that, because we don't know what angle he's going to take on the telepathy tapes, it's very important what angle is taken on this narrative, because this narrative has become huge, and so we don't know what angle he ended up taking because we're not paying for his fucking locals. But just. It is a word. Thank you.

[David Lee Corbo]

It is a word.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah. Another one. Another fucking successful word for me. So, so, so, you know, we see that and I. And, and then, yeah, we do kind of spiral a little bit and Clint has to talk us down off a ledge. But we're basically like, Ian Carroll is watching Nephilim Death Squad. He's watching Dangerous Retards and he's jacking our narrative. And the reason that we think that is because everybody who has heard this come out of our mouths has said, you better make a video about that quickly because now they're out there. Somebody else is gonna take it because.

[David Lee Corbo]

So Ian follows me and the other guy used to follow me. Dom Lucre.

[Top Lobster]

Oh, yeah, Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

I was like, why is this guy following me? I got nothing in common with. But then I noticed he's like breaking and he's saying like, like sometimes that I'm talking about. And I was like, wait a second, are you like looking at my feed and then just doing it to a bigger audience? And it's like, yeah, almost certainly the case. So I insulted him. He stopped following me. But he probably still, like, I don't know, takes that I say. So I was like, is that happening with Ian? But I don't, I'm not so sure. I think that this thing, this is just an idea that's time has come, so everyone's gonna hit it from their own angle. And I haven't listened to Ian's angle, but I'm sure it's not what we're going to be talking about.

[Top Lobster]

You know what it is? It's, it's, Ian's gonna hit it from the front, right? Because it's very.

[David Lee Corbo]

Hit it from logical fact based angle.

[Top Lobster]

And there's a, there's a narrative that's developed and I think he's probably gonna go down that now we're coming along and we're hitting it from the back, we're coming in from the back and nobody knows the angle that we're going to take. So look, I think it's important to get into this and. Yeah, that's right. He's hitting it from the front, but we're hitting it from the back.

[David Lee Corbo]

And honestly, it's giving me anxiety just saying like, like I'm like, we've been talking for 17 minutes, haven't gotten into it. Somebody's already started an episode about what we're doing here and somebody else, somebody.

[Top Lobster]

Else is doing a live stream, reviewing this Live stream as we talk. And they're waiting to figure out what it is that we've come up with. So I guess we should start. We have a little bit of a breakdown here and this will help kind of guide the show. And to be perfectly honest, and I think it's worth taking down this timestamp around the 20 minute mark, this episode is going to be dissected and edited, highly edited and produced, and we're going to release it. So what you're seeing right now, this is only going to be accessible, this raw version of this episode by the Patreon members. When it re releases, it'll be a produced product with a lot of this other shit hacked out of it because we got to do it. Right? Right. So I guess let's start with how this happened for us and then we can get into the breakdown of the Telepathy tapes. So essentially, Clint.

[David Lee Corbo]

Clint is the one in very many ways.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

He watched it or listened to it. He cried a bunch. And then he kept telling me, you gotta listen to this. You gotta listen to. He probably cried and he kept, you got to listen to this. You got to listen to this top. And I'm just like, so Clint is our friend. We like Clint, say nice things to him.

[Top Lobster]

Don't be mean to him, be nice to Clint.

[David Lee Corbo]

We love Clint, but he has very normie tendencies. So when I hear him say, like, this is a really great thing. Right up your alley. It's like my mom showing me a video. You know, your mom's like, watch this video.

[Top Lobster]

It's like your mom picking out an outfit for you.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's kind of what that's like. That's exactly what.

[Top Lobster]

Kind of like your mom picking an outfit out for you.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yes. It's like she, like, Clint was picking out what outfit I was gonna wear that day. And I'm just like, thanks for your suggestion, but no.

[Top Lobster]

Well, here you go. Marnie Mack says Clint is the one that got me to listen to it. And, and so Clint, this, this show, the Telepathy tapes, passes through a very normie filter when it comes to Clint. And it's very much the, the way that everybody's interpreting it, more or less what it is, is just for those that don't know the Telepathy tapes, here's a thousand foot overview. It tracks a bunch of parents with non verbal autistic children who seemingly are displaying telepathic powers. And it's very hard, obviously, for the families to try to explain that to anybody. The medical industry has basically told these People that this, these aren't even your kids. These are just empty husks your child is not inside. And so the tapes follow a bunch of parents who refuse to take that narrative, who, who believed, who hoped that their children were still inside these non verbal autistic bodies and then throughout time noticed that there was some form of interaction coming from these children, but it was telepathic in nature. Somehow they knew what the parents were thinking. Somehow they knew even what they were looking at. So obviously a very compelling narrative. But this has given rise to not a counter narrative, but a narrative that goes hand in hand with it. This, this isn't tlc, all right? We're not going to watch murder videos here. So, so what ends up happening is. And I can see top right the, the line of thinking that brings you here. It's like you see all these videos constantly of down syndrome people kind of doing amazing things. And you understand the idea of like the, the idiot savant, right? The idea that some people have a form of autism where virtually they're almost useless except for in one field of study or in one pursuit in particular, whether it's mathematics or maybe it's a instrument that they're playing where they excel, you know, far beyond. People who aren't autistic, aren't on the spectrum, have all their faculties about them, but can't play or can't master something the way these autists can. And so this has given rise to a different narrative. And this is something that top exposed, incidentally, on hashtag expose, hashtag breaking. So, so, so the narrative that has emerged is, and like I said, I can see this line of thinking, this must be the next step in human development, in the, in the evolution of human psychology. Meaning specifically, that powers like telepathy are the next stage in human advancement. So this hasn't been a very fleshed out narrative, but it is one that people espouse pretty flippantly. And a great example of this is top. When you were on Tower Gang and what did you say that that made them all respond this way? It just brought it up, I think, right?

[David Lee Corbo]

I don't remember what I say. I say a lot of shit on there. What did I say? I didn't watch that one back.

[Top Lobster]

I think you just said like, hey, Clint, you know, you introduced me to the telepathy tapes and there's something really significant about them. And everybody just cuts you off. And, you know, the remaining four members of Tower Gang all say it. They all say some version of, I think autism is the next step in human evolution. So that's horrifying because I think it's exactly the opposite. I suspect that we have always had some sort of latent psychic abilities, but that it has been squashed. It's been, it's been, it's taken a back seat. The scientific community and the medical industries came along and they called that pseudoscience. So there was simply no real exploration of it. Meanwhile, it was being explored, but in the intelligence agencies only. But otherwise it was pooh pooed as, as pseudoscience. And then I think a combination of that and all of the things we're inundated with, whether it's, you know, Wi Fi signals, Bluetooth signals, fucking, you know, 5G towers, all the food that's filled with all the poisons and the red dye and all this other shit, the fluoride and the drinking water that's supposedly calcifying your pineal gland. There is a litany of things that I would say are the cause for suppressing those very natural abilities in human beings. And now suddenly those, those things that I suspect are natural are reemerging, but through the filter of autism, which is really fascinating. And so this gets into a much larger narrative and I don't want to jump straight into it yet. Maybe we can read a little bit of these. These show notes from the telepathy tapes and start to have a conversation about them and then we'll kind of get to what. And you guys probably have already heard this, but what we really think is happening, why these children are displaying autism and what that. I mean, I'm sorry, why these children are displaying telepathic powers and what that actually means. So let's see, on episode one of the telepathy tapes, if you guys haven't.

[David Lee Corbo]

Watched or listen, listen to the telepathy tapes. Whatever we're gonna tell you.

[Top Lobster]

Oh yeah, we're about to spoil it. We're about to spoil it.

[David Lee Corbo]

These are exact. This took me a while to do. This is a transcript, but it's broke. It's broken down point by point. So go ahead, you can start, Dave, if you want.

[Top Lobster]

Okay, so episode one, there's a focus on none speakers with autism. Right? So those non verbal autistic children, the, the. This show highlights a group of non speaking autistic individuals, often underestimated. Right. Like we just said, claiming that they possess these telepathic abilities and the parents know it, but the experts are ignoring it. And that's exactly what we just highlighted a moment ago. So Dr. Diane Powell, she begins to research this. She's a credible scientist and she says she's testing these alleged telepathic abilities. Right. And that's a lot of like how the first episode goes is she's being shown anecdotally, like in the homes of these parents of, of non verbal autistic children. But she does eventually have to bring this to a much more scientific, well, how would I say, this sterilized environment so that they can control all of the variables. Because in a, in an environment like somebody's home, you just have no idea what potential cues are being given to these nonverbal autistic children in order for them to display it. But, but they do have an experience. Where do you remember at? Top it's like first off, they are establishing that these non verbal autists, or at least one of them in the first episode, is identifying numbers with color. And so somehow that perception of color and as it associates with the numbers that they're thinking about and then wanting the nonverbal autistic children to identify what they're thinking about telepathically, it does come out one way or another. I think it's through guided text. What's the expression for that?

[David Lee Corbo]

Top the. I'm not exactly sure what they were doing. It was like she was correlating texts.

[Top Lobster]

With, well, I mean, the process where they were like touching their arms in order to get these non verbal autistic children to engage with a keyboard, because otherwise they weren't readily engaging with the keyboard. But spelling touched them.

[David Lee Corbo]

Guided. Yeah, like guided spelling, something like that.

[Top Lobster]

Right. And through that process, these non verbal autistic children are able to type out responses and, and their predictions and everything. So this, this doctor, what was her name, Dr. Diane Powell, does get kind of a secondhand view, right? She's on a video call and she's seeing that through this guided text, or this guided text to speech, whatever it is that these children are seemingly predicting or, or perceiving the numbers that their parents are thinking about the numbers and the shapes and things like that. And, and there's a bit of an explanation that goes along with, like synesthesia, which is this, this disposition where a person will associate numbers with colors. And I think that makes a lot of sense because, you know, light, vibration, color, these are all basically it's, it's all the same thing. It's all vibration and energy. Right? And then it's just a matter of how fast something is vibrating determines either what shape or form it takes or even what color it emits. So whatever These kids are perceiving, it seems to be on a energy vibrational basis. Right? So she then finds out that this is a global phenomenon. This is happening in Mexico, England, Israel, and a lot of the people that get followed. There you go, Israel. A lot of people that get followed throughout this process are, you know, those families from around the world. And the first case is Mia's case. Mia is a 12 year old non speaker from Mexico. Mia demonstrates telepathy with her mother, accurately identifying unspoken numbers, as we said, words and objects in controlled tests, where she also exhibits, like we said, synesthesia, which is seeing colors with letters and numbers. Right? These, there's a color associated with these things and claims to see everywhere, which is very interesting because it kind of opens this door to not so much telepathy because specifically she claims to be able to see everywhere. So that to me is much more of like a remote viewing, which is interesting that they're calling it the telepathy tapes because telepathy, as profound as it seems, is almost restrictive in comparison to what these kids can do, right? Because telepathy is not what enables you to remote view everywhere. Telepathy is the ability to read another person's mind. And so this seemingly far exceeds that that, that is actually kind of restrictive, I would say.

[David Lee Corbo]

Telepathy is the ability to communicate thoughts, feelings or information directly from one mind to another without using any physical or sensory means speaking into someone's mind, like without speaking, writing or gesturing. So that's the def. That's like the going definition of what we're talking about right now.

[Top Lobster]

Def, not tlc, says Raven's voice is pink. That's very unfortunate. Okay. And then of course there's this rigorous testing thing where to the best of their ability, they try to control as many variables of this process as possible, right through the scientific method. So Dickens Glendale experiment. So it apparently uses blindfolds, partitions, random generators and multiple cameras to rule out cheating. Yet mia's accuracy is 100%. A hundred percent, which is insane. And you know, this isn't something new. When I started off, you know, researching conspiracy theories, I was a, a teenager, of course, like telepathy and is cool, right? Like especially at that time we're inundated with all like the superhero movies and everything. Like this is something that has been on the menu for a conspiracy theorist for a long time and only now is it getting any real scientific credence. But I mean, once again, that's not true because it does get scientific credence. It does get recognized as significant by the scientific community, just not the one that is presented to the general public. It's the scientific community that operates behind the closed doors of the intelligence agencies. So it was and is something that somebody takes very seriously. But the public has been convinced that that's not the case. Case, or at least told that that's not the case. So, of course, there's some skepticism. Right. Despite the compelling evidence. Powell explains that materialism in science dismisses telepathy and materialism being the. The paradigm that we exist under right now. Nothing is a spirit we don't exist under. I mean, we do exist under a spiritual paradigm, but Western culture only recognizes a materialism paradigm that we're stuck in. And so that materialism paradigm dismisses telepathy. And these tests lack the rigor, for example, brain imaging of both parties to sway peers. So there's still, you know, a notable distance that they have to traverse in the way of, like, you know, getting this thing to be recognized as serious. They're mentioning brainwaves and things like that. So they have to get these kids into a lab, I guess, is basically the. The. Because in the lab, you can control as many variables as possible. So now we have this little note here, says worldview shift, Dickens and crew members, even skeptics, are profoundly affected. So they've taken this as the truth, or not necessarily the truth, but they've seen enough that they are disturbed by it. And this is what gives birth to the rest of it.

[David Lee Corbo]

This is part of the show or the story that makes me a little bit suspicious about what's going on is because she's coming into this as a. As a skeptic, but I'm also not sure how much she actually believes beforehand. So I don't know where her New Agey tendencies lie. Before she started this, is she it. The question that we're asking is, is she leading the audience into thinking us, thinking something in a certain way? And as this. As this podcast develops, there are more. There are more and more red flags for me. Yeah, like, just some. I mean, some of the odd sponsorships in the. You know, she. She leads off with, like, oh, we're gonna be putting ads. And it's on, you know, explaining that she's putting ads, and it's unfortunate. And I understand what ad she's putting. She's putting in, like, a. Whatever will play, basically. And then she also has some organic advertisements which are for, like, oh, you can go on this retreat and, like, do, like, guided meditation and things. Like, I was like, oh, that's really weird and new agey, but that's the kind of companies that you're mixed up with. Or I don't know if they're her companies or just companies that pay her, but seems like those are products she believes in. And then there are advertisements that are just things put in, you know, for like a targeted ads for the listener. So I'm very careful with, with that because I'm trying to understand the angle that she's coming from. So yeah, in this first episode, she doesn't believe it. I'm very, I'm very science based is what she's saying, things like this and we want to make sure that we get all the facts and shit like that. Her camera guy doesn't believe it either. And then like, I think after the first episode there's one point where he's like, do I have to believe in God now? Like he's asking her and she's like, no, honey, it's fine. Like we're just like, it's, it's very gay. It's very stupid and naive, but I just don't know. Did you get that feeling that you were being kind of guided down a procured kind of experience with this show?

[Top Lobster]

I would say yes, because you're passing through the filter that is the worldview of a white woman. And so in that way you're going to have some predictability in regards to what that worldview is. And I mean that very seriously. Right. That's like a potential dis liking of the patriarchy, which could very well also be synonymous with the church and the biblical narrative. Let's.

[David Lee Corbo]

Let's also preface. Another very important thing to preface is. And it's kind of messed up to do, but I do this with everything and it has not failed me yet. I do like a political test on people and I do that by words they use, how they speak phrases that they'll imply and also, I mean even their sexual characteristics. So Kai Dickens is a lesbian. She is older. I think she's got some kids. I don't know what happened. Maybe from a past marriage or something like that. Or from her, her current spouse. So lesbian. She's older, white woman. Haven't even really seen what she looks like. I'm sure she's probably got short hair. So she's coming from a certain demographic. And then she's using words like the science community and things like this. Very important that we pay attention and that the science community does xyz. So right away promoting scientism in a way, but I, I'm not sure how she feels about it. Then she uses words like validated like that, like people just want to be seen. And I'm like, oh, these are like very leftist words. So there's a, there is a political bent here. And that political bent will present itself socially and present itself and how she will frame the narrative, although she doesn't claim it. There are clues. So I, I think if you do listen yourself, pay attention to these clues because they're coming from a certain angle and I'm just super sensitive to that kind of stuff. So I'm, I, I heard it and I'm like, all right, I don't.

[Top Lobster]

Well, that's your thing, right? Top. It's like if you can identify somebody socially and politically, which is to say those two are an amalgamation that creates culturally and you can identify somebody along those lines, which means, like now there's a layer of predictability. I know what your opinions are, I know what your, you know, what your passions are, what you care about, what you don't care about, and whether or not you realize it. We all have political, social and cultural tendencies, but you also have spiritual tendencies. So we know what those three filters look like. Cultural, societal, and, and, and political. We probably have a, a good idea then where you're going to go spiritually. But before we do that, guys, and we're going to get into now a bit about why we deviate from this narrative and what it is that we suspect and what they're showing you that's bad. We got to pull the stream. This is going live now exclusively to patreon.com backslash Nephilim Death Squad. Guys, you can sign up and you can listen to, for, to, to this episode for free. Just sign up at the seven day free trial and try to absorb as much content as you can. But this is a very important episode for us. Like I said, the only way you're gonna get this episode raw in the, in the way that it is right now is by being on Patreon. The episode that's gonna release to the general public is going to be one of our first like produced and edited episodes because we got to make sure that we do this right. So if you, if you want this free flowing conversation, if you want to see the development of these ideas, which I do believe are very important, you're going to want to go over to patreon.com backslash nephilim death squad. We're not asking you to pay. Just sign up and keep an eye on this, because this is something that I think is going to become very big. And I. And I happen to think that we are a little bit of a head of the curve when it comes to this. But otherwise, guys, we are now cutting the stream. And we'll catch you guys later. Okay? So we just kind of established why this is a dangerous idea. And what's dangerous about it is this seems to be something that is been a human capability for a long time. It seems that it's been suppressed. And now it seems that it's being repackaged and rolled out to the general public. It's passing through a filter that is a lesbian white woman who has all these political ideologies and cultural ideologies. So we can kind of suspect where she's going to go spiritually. And it's like these people, when they do decide they have to go spiritually, they go new age. Because for whatever reason. Well, it's not even whatever reason, they hate the patriarchy. Right. They've been told by Western culture to hate the church. They will not look at Christianity in a fair way. Right. An unbiased way. Instead, they're gonna jump straight to crystals and eventually end up in witchcraft, where they finally admit that spirituality is real, but that, you know, God's not real and Jesus Christ isn't real. So that's one aspect that's bad, the other one. And I'm just gonna lay this out and then we can kind of get back into this, this narrative of the telepathy tapes. This is something that you guys have heard on other shows from us. But it's very important that we say this here when we're looking at these telepathic abilities and they're coming from autistic children. To me, what that suggests is that the vaccine schedule might actually be part of an MK Ultra mind control experimentation, or at least a wing of the MK ULTRA program. Why do I say that? Because when it comes to the MK ULTRA program, what are we doing? Well, we are. We're exposing suggestibility and psychic abilities in people through trauma. MK ULTRA can kind of be surmised as a. A trauma based mind control experiment or operation. The idea is that if you can induce enough trauma, especially when somebody is young, you can create a disassociative identity disorder, which is at the base of a lot of things. When we're talking to William Ramsey and he's talking about Catcher in the Rye and how seemingly Catcher in the Rye is almost like this blueprint for all of these school shooters and Manchurian Candidates, these people all have a tendency towards disassociative identity disorders. That's what MK Ultra does. If you look at the Montauk Project, it's very much the same thing. Now this is what gives rise to Stranger Things, which is a sensationalized, fictionalized version of the Montauk Project. But it can basically be summed up as taking children, traumatizing them to expose latent psychic abilities, which is what they depict in, in the character 11. All right, so you've got those two things there. And these play really well with Buharij who we're gonna get into a little bit later on. Again, if you didn't catch that episode, once again, I'm compelling you go back and watch that deep dive because these things are all connected in the hugest way. So you have trauma based mind control and trauma based latent psychic abilities. And when I look at these autistic children who are non verbal, I would say that they are recipients or have been exposed to maybe the highest level of trauma. What is more traumatizing than being a happy, healthy child receiving your fucking vaccines from the vaccine schedule that the medical industry is pushing you towards? Because it's for your own betterment, it's for the good of society, it's for the good of the child. And next thing you know, you're trapped in your own body, unable to not only control yourself physically, but unable to articulate. To me, that is traumatizing. So we've traumatized these children. They have nowhere to go. They have to dissociate. They have to because their body is no longer serving them. They can't interact with their body. It's not even a choice, right? At least when you have MK Ultra or the Montauk Project, these children aren't trapped in their bodies, they're just trapped in a facility and they're being tormented, right? But these kids, their prison is their own flesh. They have to dissociate. And when they dissociate, what do they discover? They discover latent psychic abilities. I think that this is, if it's a happy accident, that's one thing. But to me, I feel like this goes hand in hand with these operations that the intelligence agencies are leveraging against us when it comes to the, the psychological torment and the suggestibility and all this. The disassociative identity disorder programs that might be best, what they're summed up as these, these ones that I just for mentioned. So the question that I'm now forced to ask is why is this being presented as if it's the next stage in human development if it is all a result of fucking torture that doesn't line up to me. And, you know, if you watch this show and you listen to us talk about the idea that people have alien encounters, and what do the aliens do? Well, they communicate telepathically with you. Well, people have cryptid encounters. People bump into Bigfoot. What does Bigfoot do? He will. He communicates telepathically with you. People have demonic encounters, demons in their room, shadow entities, this and that, and they communicate with you. How do they communicate? They communicate with you telepathically. I think we all have this ability, but I think it's been suppressed. And I think that the word being able to speak is actually the most powerful thing and that telepathy is a lower form of communication. It just seems profound to us because we can't do it now. But I have a feeling that there's a time in the past where if human beings were subjected to this, they'd be like, yeah, no shit. We all have latent psychic abilities. That's not the thing. The thing that is the most powerful is the ability to prophesy, the ability to speak. Right. God created the universe with the word, and we were blessed with the ability to speak. I think that is the advantage. And telepathy is. Is much more of a secondary thing. But we've repackaged this and we've. We've rolled it back out in a way that's supposed to seem profound, and it's supposed to make us think that telepathy is an advancement. I do not believe that it is. And I think that is exactly why all these lower entities, these, you know, demonic alien. Grayson. The, you know, the Cryptids that you bump into or these demonic entities that you run into, they can't speak. They can only speak telepathy or telepathically. They can only communicate with you in their mind. So I think in that way, this is actually a hindrance. But before we go on to that top, do you want to pick up some more of these points and we'll. We'll. We'll keep it going. I think we're. We're down here now.

[David Lee Corbo]

I was going to move on to episode two because it's. We've kind of touched on what is going on here. There are some more experiments with this, with this girl. What's her name? Mia. From Mexico.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, she's the one from Mexico, I think. Right?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah. One of the things that, that she does. I believe she does Like a popsicle, a popsicle stick test, which kind of blows their mind, where she assorts the popsicle sticks in a certain color, that her mother is only looking at that so she's no longer like associating just like a word or a phrase. So it's not just mind reading. But they. Then they start to speculate on is she seeing through her mother's eyes, Is she able to. Because she's taking these, the popsicle sticks and putting them in order, in the order that her mother's looking at. And her mother's in a different room where there's a partition between them. So this starts to blow the cameraman's mind even more. It blows Kai Dickens mind even more. And it just leads to more questions like what is the. What are these kids late in abilities? And why are they. Why number one, why have they been ignored until now? Why are they allowed to be discussed? Is a great question. And then where do they. Where do you go from here with this sort of thing? So what happened?

[Top Lobster]

I'm just thinking about it because the, the answer to the question where do we go from here? Has been answered recently and you brought it to my attention and I just can't wait till we get there because it's just kind of unbelievable how all these things connect. But you know, we'll get there when we get there.

[David Lee Corbo]

I mean, we're gonna bury the lead a bunch of times because we can't help ourselves, but whatever. Episode two, the first one, pretty damn good. And it also touches on like, you know, some synesthesia stuff that I really get into. I'd like to do a deep dive on that eventually, but episode two starts off with an Indian mother and her son, who, I forget how old he is, but he was non verbal until he was 11. This guy's name is Akil. And he started communicating through a technique called. It's. What's it called? It's a guided typing.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, that's the one that I was talking about before, where they're touching their arm to somehow like engage. And it starts slow, right? Like first they're touching their wrist, which can be a little bit screwy because you're like, you're awfully close to the keyboard. Are you guiding them? But to alleviate that suspicion, over time, they recede. They're now touching them on the arm, they're touching them on the shoulder until they're very far from the keyboard.

[David Lee Corbo]

And it's called supported typing.

[Top Lobster]

Supported typing. There you go.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah. So the idea behind this is that yeah, the. The mother or the proctor, the teacher, they. They start by actually, like, holding their hand, and it looks weird like they're holding it and then they're touching the letter and touching the letter. So it's like. It's very possible that this person could be guiding this person and communicating for them. There's a. There's an interesting Netflix documentary about a woman who's accused of rape because she. She was working with this. This guy and she was doing this guided. I forget the name of it again. Already.

[Top Lobster]

Supported. Supported typing.

[David Lee Corbo]

She was doing supported typing or supported spelling with this guy and. And basically said he consented to it. And the. The family was like, there's no way. He's never spoken a word in his life. He doesn't know what he's doing. He's just a shell of a human being that we're keeping alive for whatever reason. Turns out there might be some veracity to her claim, although very strange, to do what she did.

[Top Lobster]

So hold on. I want to just type. I address this shout out to jc. He said, oh, my God. Hi, jc. He says, guiding guided typing reminds me of Ouija boards. And in. In for a moment, my. In my mind, I said, oh, my God. Are these kids just human planchets?

[David Lee Corbo]

That's kind of. It feels like. Like it, But. But not really. No. Well, man, that's actually a great.

[Top Lobster]

Now that he's mentioned it, I'm like, maybe.

[David Lee Corbo]

I. That. That's. That's a scary thought.

[Top Lobster]

Yes.

[David Lee Corbo]

But I. Listen, I. I believe that this is happening. I believe that these kids are. Are communicating. So the. The title of this episode is kind of debunked. So we're not debunking the telepathy tapes, but we're debunking the bullshit behind it and the narrative that. That it's going to push. So this kid Akil is communicating. Communicating with this sort of guided. Well, he started with the supported typing and then he eventually moved on to independently type. This was an issue that was going on with Mia. Why her. The first girl in Mexico. Why her. Her typing or her communication wasn't exactly scientifically eligible because I think the mother was touching. She was touching her forehead, like just putting a finger on her forehead at that point. And for some reason, the. The child doesn't feel like they are in their body. They. They're. They're having this vibrational sensation where they. They say in later episodes their spirit is vibrating on a certain frequency and their body's vibrating on a certain frequency, but not together. So they cannot. That's what they're. They're. They're disassociating. They're almost like in a constant state of astral projection. Not in their body. They don't even recognize that they could move their hands or that they are moving their hands. So a lot of times when they'll flail. They said that it's because they're trying to determine where they are in space. That's how, that's how far it's. It is completely fucked.

[Top Lobster]

I just want to say on that too. It's like I'm now giving this a line of thought thanks to JC's comment and this idea of like a human planchet. And now I'm just wondering, like the. One of the problems with disassociating and one of the problems with astral projection is that you are in fact leaving your physical body. But we know that there are a plethora of various types of entities that would love to have a parasitic relationship with you and, you know, between them and your physical flesh. They want to possess you in very many ways. And, you know, there's varying degrees to how. How, you know, strong that possession can be. But when you have somebody who has never had a relationship with their body, does that person. Is that like prime real estate, in other words? I wonder if this is going to sound crazy. What a crazy question to ask, but we have the phenomenon of possession. I wonder if there's any historical evidence for non verbal autistic children being possessed. Well, that's. And that's not really what we're here to discuss, but I just wanted to put that out there. That's kind of where my mind went.

[David Lee Corbo]

This episode, this episode specifically touches on, and this is what kind of started to get me on, like really raise my antennas on what the hell was going on here. So it's like all. There's all scientific stuff and it's all pretty amazing because I do, you know, there's always been a part of me where it's like, there's a human being in here and I don't know if they're suffering. I don't know if there's like it. I don't know what brain damage is. I don't know if it just means that the person is not communicating with their body correctly. So we perceive their actions and their, their speech, if they have it as like, weird. Like, are they being. Are they like. The word means to hold something back. It's a great word. Are they. Are they legitimately being retarded? And yes, they, like, if you have a. You would. You would put a retarder on a car, right? Or a governor.

[Top Lobster]

Governor, yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's the same thing. It just means to, like, limit at a certain point. So that's a. It's a great word. It's a shame that it's been associated with. You know, I. I do like it to associate, to call stupid people. Although stupid people are just. I think they are stupid. It's just a good slur. People seem to be held down by something, possibly a metal, a heavy metal that was put in their body at some point. So this is what is going on with these people. They. They do a bunch of tests with this guy, and they do, like, multiplication tests. He instantly gets the numbers of, like, you know, fairly high, high multiplication processes. He types words and phrases and animals and vegetables and shit like that. Whatever. They're telling his mom, they use the random word generator, and they did it twice. So it wasn't just like the first random word. It was the second one online. And what makes his story a lot more compelling than the first girl is that he's. He's advanced to the level where he can type by himself. And he's, like, slightly verbal, so you'll hear him during the show, like, making moans and going. And like, he's typing stuff. And at one point he goes into another room because, like, he's very hard to keep, like, focused. But he. They agree. They're like, I will do this for you just to show you guys. And he's in another room and they're doing these tests again, but in completely another room. So forget about a partition. And he is guessing numbers correctly that his mother is just simply looking at. So.

[Top Lobster]

Interesting.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. They're like, what the hell is going on with this guy? At one point with this. This couple, this mother and son, he. She tells a story about him telling her exactly what she did at a certain day, like going shopping and not finding what she wanted at one store. And.

[Top Lobster]

Yes.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. So he, like, they. They established that distance also is not an issue for these people.

[Top Lobster]

That's what makes me wonder. It's like, it's not so much telepathy, or maybe. Maybe telepathy isn't a thing that happens in a vacuum. In other words, like what we know is telepathy in this. This, which is. We colloquially know it as, because it's not a recognized phenomenon by the. The actual, you know, scientific community at large. But how we recognize it is just the ability to perceive one's thoughts you know, full stop. That's a simple enough explanation. But what these kids are describing, just to reiterate, isn't. It feels a lot more like a remote viewing, like an astral projection. Like it's not just. They don't just know what the other person's thinking. They, you know, the. The one girl, Mia, says she can see everywhere. And. And so I just think it's funny once again to call this the telepathy tapes because telepathy is almost the least compelling thing that's going on here. It seems that they are able to be perceptive in an omni present sort of way.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah, they. They start to call it shared consciousness, which is a slightly more interesting term than telepathy. Right. Because telepathy would just. It would be limited. But they're getting at this idea of him being able to see through her eyes, which is a very strange thing to. To imagine. So not just what she is like willingly giving him. He's able to experience her feelings as if he's in her mind. And they do another test with them, which is like a random image generator. And this one creates even more interesting. It creates an. A more interesting question, I suppose. So the. The image. The image generator will generate something crazy, an abstract AI art image which doesn't really. It's not really associated to a word. And she looks at it and she's like, oh, this looks like a mess. And he looks at me. There's something like, oh, this is a. This is like a food fight. And they're. They're like, oh, yeah, I could see why you'd interpret that. So he's not necessarily just using her mind. He is looking through her eyes and then deciphering with his own mind what it is. So just very interesting stuff to mention. But at the end of this episode, as like almost like an afterthought, I'll. I'll skip down to the. To the bottom here because I think that this is. This is one of the more interesting parts that they. Again, they just touch on and they don't really dive into. Not.

[Top Lobster]

Not yet really see the significance too.

[David Lee Corbo]

I think in later episodes they do, but they. They need to frame more because they have to frame for the people. So there is an idea of. Of Akil. He has told his mother that he's.

[Top Lobster]

Communicating from India, right?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yes. This is still episode two. His mother's name is Manisha. And so they focus a lot on what we just spoke about. But he tells her that he sees their ancestors and different spirits and she has gone. She said she's went back to India and confirmed with her relatives that these descriptions of whatever he's seeing that they're telling him and they're talking to him about, they have been verified as true. So he is not only seeing through his mother's eyes in the, in the current, but he's also communicating with non human entities. So if you.

[Top Lobster]

Ancestor spirits too, which is like, you know, whenever we deal with pagan mythoses, they have their gods and they have their ancestor spirits. And that's almost, you could almost always put non Christian belief systems in that camp. They have two things they're going for and they're often together. It's their gods and their, their ancestor worship. And oftentimes their gods will be of a nature spirit variety. They'll, they'll attribute them to the like, you know, it's a, it's a spirit of the wind, it's a spirit of this, it's a spirit of that. But they are also their gods, lowercase G. So I just find that fascinating because now what we're getting is, and you know, maybe this is a little bit of a leap, we're getting ancestor worship repackaged through pseudoscience. Not pseudoscience, because that's a dismissive terminology that the industry came up with. But you get what I'm saying. It's like now we're going to get ancestor worship through the materialism kind of worldview. And, and I don't know what that's going to lead to is if, if they end up showing you that it's true, well, it's going to cause a resurgence in ancestor worship. No, I don't know. That's just my thinking, but go on.

[David Lee Corbo]

Possibly. But so what, what they're saying is that he's reported messages from deceased ancestors and his claim is that in my world people don't talk. So he's, he's talking about the, the, the broader consciousness world, the shared consciousness that's not limited by time, space, or physicality as we know it. And this is kind of where this episode, if I remember correctly, it just kind of like leaves off. They're like also, you know this. So do what you will with that idea.

[Top Lobster]

Can I address this too real quick? Because this is an excellent point. I'm sorry to derail you, but Red Beard at the said, what if it's blind? Your other senses get heightened, lose speaking and physical control, your other forms of communication get boosted. Red Beard, you hit the nail on the head. That's exactly what I suspect. Is going on here very much in the same way where you lose one of your senses and the other ones become heightened. What if you lose all the conventional senses? And that almost feels like the goal, right? It's like, I almost feel like somebody knew that. It's like, yeah, when you go blind, scent and, and touch and hearing, they go way up. What if you eliminated all of those, what then would go up? And it's like we're finding out now it's a, it's a spiritual disposition that you're leaning into.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, this is gonna. I think it leads into episode three, which I don't know if we're. I guess we're done with this with Akil. I mean, again, these people are. I really do like this show and I like these people that they're, they're interviewing. I like the parents, I like the kids. They, the parents are just super excited because they're finding some type of hope, you know? And this is, this is also like, it's coming from me, who I, I was very, I was super close to possibly having a kid that was non verbal. For the first couple of years of my kid's life, he didn't speak at all. It was very frustrating. I understand what these parents were going through. He was just like angry because he could operate physically, but he, he wasn't able to put words to his mouth. And I can tell how like, frustrated he was maybe till two and a half, three years old, he wouldn't talk. We had to bring him to like, not, not a speech pathologist, but like, like a speech therapist, occupational therapist sort of, sort of thing because he was having these issues. We were also. My wife is, she's a nurse, but she had him on like, you know, heavy metal detoxes. We were doing all kinds of stuff because he had an injury on his leg, a big lump on his leg from the DTAP vaccine that we had given him when he was younger. We were doing like a slow rollout of this and it was just a lump. And I was like, no more, Never again. And we dealt with that for a long, a long time. And it felt like forever. And thank God we got the right help for him at the right time. Because I think if you, if you continue to give these to your kids and they're not processing these, these ingredients correctly, ingredients like this is good. If they're not processing it and getting it out of their system, I think that it jams them up and in ways that we don't understand. So these parents are, are receiving Some sort of like they're getting a relief. At least they could communicate with this kid, with their kids.

[Top Lobster]

For them, I mean, it's got to be huge. It's. I could only imagine being the parent of a non verbal autistic child. That is horrifying. Absolutely horrifying. And then all of a sudden to have to be given hope in this really, really, you know, fantastic way. Fantastic in the, in the literal sense of like. Yeah, it's almost the fantasy realm.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. And it's, it's great. Like your kid is now special. So. Yeah, it's like, where have we heard that from? Right. They want you to think that you're their special boy. And that's kind of what's going on here. And you know, the kid, these kids are, they're special in a way. But, but I, I think where we're going to come at this, the perspective on, on the telepathy tapes is that not to like put these kids down or put the parents down, but like, I think we need to let them know, like, hey, your kid's a victim of something. They're, they're certainly special because they're, they're susceptible to whatever was going on, whatever kind of experimentation we think was happening to them. But I think that they were victims and I think that you suffered and they suffered. Meaning they suffered needlessly. Needlessly. Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

Well, man, one of the things that I've been noticing and then we'll get back on track here, but is, and, and to a degree we're guilty of it. Right. Because Dangerous is, is kind of. It's the fan base. It's also the namesake of, of one of our other shows. But Sam Tripley says it all the time where he says the downs are rising. And just the other day there was an article in the news, or not in the news, but on X, that said there has been a real rise in OnlyFans content creators or like, you know, pornography content creators using AI filters to make themselves look like they have down syndrome. And so what we're seeing, what I'm trying to highlight here is like suddenly we went from a place where it was like we felt terrible for autistic kids and down syndrome kids. And we're scrambling trying to figure out why there is this explosion in this phenomenon and people are attributing it to the vaccinations. But that's a conspiracy theory right? Now we've moved on from that to like, actually they're, they're awesome. Autists are the, they have Superhero superhuman abilities of research and retention and all that other. They can't be propagandized. Down syndrome chicks are now hot all of a sudden. You know, we had that Victoria's Secret down syndrome chick and then it just keeps coming like there's more and more. And now, now the videos that you see of like good looking down syndrome chicks are actually AI filters. So I'm not saying that that's a consolidated effort to make us think highly of these people who are, they've been poisoned. But I do recognize that it's a very strange direction that the culture is heading in at the same time that the telepathy tapes is now emerging and, and telling us that, that they may just be the next step in human advancement. I find that fascinating and I don't know where it all goes, but worth noting, that is a hot topic of conversation in all its forms lately.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right, Right. So again, that's my, I guess that was my explanation of what I really, what I really think about these kids and their parents. I do think that it's again, fascinating subject. I'm, I'm grateful that they're getting some sort of relief, but I think the intention behind what they're doing, what they're formulating with these podcasts, the podcast that has beaten Joe Rogan in popularity when in reality it is boring. This lady, Kai Dickens does, and if she listened to this, I tell her to her face, you do a terrible job at whatever you're doing here. It's not a podcast. It's not even personable at all. My wife had, I was listening to in the car and she came in the car and she said, why are you listening to a robot talk? Literally, that's what she asked me. And she's not like the joking type. And I was like, no, this is just a lesbian, not a robot. But it's like very boring, very canned answers. Besides, like the whatever she's taped, everything is cut, pre processed. She'd even like re record herself asking a question that she asked live. You can tell she's asking it into a microphone separately and then plays it. It, it's, it's so, a lot of it is, it's, it's not to say that it's like faked because there is video of the live thing. I'm just saying that the production of this is. If the, if the content wasn't so great, the person presenting it in the production would just completely tank this. But that's how good and compelling this is. She's taking the story and she's twisting it into a, into her own narrative, which I would do if I had this story first as well.

[Top Lobster]

Can I do some schizo speculating really quickly what if. Because a lot of the issues with these vaccinations is that they're filled with all these heavy metals. And we know metal is a, is a conductor and it's, it's great at picking up frequencies and what these.

[David Lee Corbo]

Let's, let's, let's get into metals. Okay, we'll, we'll talk about this really quick because that's episode three and we're coming up on this right now. So episode three starts off and it doesn't go the way that you would think it would go. You think that we're going to hear from more kids, but it's Kai Dickens talking about. Well, she's telling you about this old story that happened with Lucille Ball. And I have a. Here we go. I have some video here to play for you guys from, of Lucille Ball talking about it. So here we go. Let's just check out a couple of seconds of this. A couple, maybe a minute or so. Here we go.

[Top Lobster]

It had to do with World War II.

[Kai Dickens]

I know, I know, the one about the dentist.

[Top Lobster]

Yes. This thing's stranger than fiction.

[Kai Dickens]

Well, it's true. To make it short, I had some dental work to be done. You know, they put in temporary fillings and I had never had it done before. I, you know, what is it? Lead.

[Top Lobster]

That puts, I think in those days they were putting in temporary lead filling.

[Kai Dickens]

Yeah, it was quite a while ago.

[Top Lobster]

During the war.

[Kai Dickens]

Yeah. And World War II. Yes. And I had several. But it, it was after they had taken the Japanese out of California and unfortunately put them in the camps, which was a very sad time in California. And we were all on our guard, you know, about many things. There had been a Japanese submarine sighted in Santa Barbara and a Japanese fighter plane had been sighted going over our home one evening. It was, it was touchy times. Anyway, this particular night was about 1:15 and I was driving alone. I had 35 miles to drive. And it wasn't, wasn't any fun. It was just a normal night. I wasn't frightened or anything. I was just driving along and a road that I'd taken many times. And all of a sudden I heard music, but I mean, with a great beat, you know, And I turned, looked down to turn off my radio and it wasn't on. And I turned around, looked to see if there's anyone behind me and the music was getting louder. And louder and louder. And I realized it was in my mouth and it was beating in my ears. Yeah. I could hear the tune and everything. I recognized the tune. And then it started to fade out.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[Kai Dickens]

And I thought, what the hell was that? You know?

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay. So she had a dental implant surgery. And at the time, it wasn't just lead. There was a. I'm gonna. I'll give you the name in a second. I have to look it up again. There's a type of metal, it's like a dusting that they. They were using to coat the tooth. And that's what was in her mouth while she's picking up these radio wave signals. Here. Let's go on. She continues here.

[Kai Dickens]

He said you picked it up in your teeth. Well, I can hardly wait to go by there again. And I didn't go by at the same time of night, so nothing happened. There was no music playing, but I could hardly wait.

[Top Lobster]

Call in a request.

[Kai Dickens]

Right. But about five nights later, because I had to wait, I don't know, a couple weeks for those teeth that I were getting fixed. I was going up another street, almost home. And I was passing four vacant lots that were all raised so they could build the Birmingham hospital. And as I went by there, I heard. Picking it up on my teeth, you mean? Yes. And I stopped the car. Then I looked around in the Morse code, like. And I backed the car up, and it got stronger and stronger, and I kept on backing it up until it really got strong. And my whole jaw was vibrating like this. And then I got the hell out of there. I went boom, like this. Because it was very late. And I couldn't wait to get back to MGM the next morning and tell the security office. And they found an underground Japanese transmitting. Transmitting radio station. Radio station.

[Top Lobster]

It's fucking insane. That's so insane. Hey, by the way, you know what's interesting? Lucille Ball. As in like Lucille, Like Lucifer, like light. That's what Lucy.

[David Lee Corbo]

A, A, L. Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah. By the way, I like her a lot. Big. I do, too. I love Lucy when I was a kid. Huge fan, actually.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yes.

[Top Lobster]

To watch it nightly.

[David Lee Corbo]

So the episode starts off with this clip. It's a little bit, you know, more polished than what we just gave the people. But the entire clip about her getting this. A radio wave through their. Through her mouth. Because they want to start now talking about the idea of radio transmission, like a CB radio. How these kids are communicating with.

[Top Lobster]

Right.

[David Lee Corbo]

With each other and. Or with their parents is like a one way Radio or two way radio. And in this episode, they also briefly, like right after that, they play the telepathy. They play this part of Lucille Ball talking and then they go, you know, this correlates with this guy. It's got Andreja Puharich, very interesting guy. He was an inventor and he was working on a dental implants and he also found Lucille Ball story very interesting. So he started to look into it more and he realized that, you know, there could be. He was, he was only studying the correlation of could. Could your teeth pick up a radio wave if this happened? And he determined, yes. Well, Kai Dickens, I don't know if she knows this or not, but. But what he was actually working on was how to do it. And he figured, yeah, he figured out exactly how to do this.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

And then he replicated it. I think, as a matter of fact, it wouldn't even be surprised if he had something to do with her experience. But I don't know.

[Top Lobster]

The time checks out. Well, check this out, right? We often talk about how when they stopped the MK Ultra program, it's because they realized that it was viable and now it was time to scale it up, up and implement it on the masses. Right. Well, if you're experimenting as to whether or not you could insert metal into people's teeth and have them pick up different frequencies, and you are aware on some level that these spiritual entities communicate in. In frequency. Right. Well, we know.

[David Lee Corbo]

Let me, Let me just say. So what they, what they mentioned about Puharich specifically is that they, He. He was. They said a man named Andreja Buharich was studying somebody who was admitted to a psychiatric ward for hearing voices. He found that the man's metal dental fillings coated with this is the name of it. Carb, Carbo, carbondum, dust. It's a semiconductor. They were, they were what was picking up the radio signals. This is around, I guess, 1950s when this is going on here. So he was also paying attention. I guess he, he was interested in what happened with Lucille Ball as well. So this is, this is how he is linked into this story again, because this guy's just everywhere. This is what put me on to like, what really sent me reeling with this.

[Top Lobster]

When you showed me that, I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it. Because, guys, you got to remember all it was was like my wife started talking about the telepathy tapes. And every time I hear about the telepathy tapes, a little feeling in my gut is like, there's something there. And when she Started talking about it, I was like, if it's reached my wife, it's reached mainstream in a way that's staggering now. And so for me to say that and then for Top to be the guy that he is who's like, I said, you. You take action on. And the next thing I hear from you is listen to episode three in the first, like, five minutes or some like that. So I listen and they mention Puharij, and I'm about floored. Because, guys, you know, we just did a huge deep dive on this guy. We also went and presented it on Occult Reject. So. But hear me out, Top. You're putting these dental implants in people, and they're having all of this engagement with these radio waves. And later on, we'll show you that it does reach a spiritual place where now these kids are perceiving or talking about entities. Right.

[David Lee Corbo]

But let's be interesting, too, that he's like. It's like, oh, just this guy was just studying somebody who was admitted to a mental hospital for this. And this is the idea of the, like, one of the originations of the tinfoil hat, which is actually the tinfoil hat wasn't necessarily a brain. A tooth implant. They said it was a brain implant, but I don't know. Andrea Puharich was also involved with investigating that. So then maybe they found that it's a little bit better to just put it right in your brain, because you can't take your brain out. You could, but you could take a tooth out.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah. So that's fucking lofty, isn't it? It's like, now I have to do brain surgery on people. What if instead we got them from, like, childhood and we gave them inoculations that were filled with heavy metals? Not enough to kill them, but enough that we know scientifically, these heavy metals, for whatever reason, seem to accumulate in the brain.

[David Lee Corbo]

And this metal here, the carborundrum. Carborundrum. It is. It's just below diamond on the scale of, you know, the Mohs hardness test.

[Top Lobster]

So that's ain't going nowhere.

[David Lee Corbo]

No, yeah, it's. It's put there for. I mean, it's probably a very useful metal, and it probably. Maybe it happened by accident, but it's definitely put there purposefully at this point to continue these experiments. And it just so happened that Lucille Ball was caught up in this weird rollout, so that's going to happen, and she ends up on the Tonight show talking about it.

[Top Lobster]

Good old Lucifer Ball. Well, look, I think there's really something to that because like I said, when the MK Ultra program went away, clearly it was implemented, implemented at scale on the public. I think the same thing happened there where they go. Because your teeth have a direct route to your brain, right? It's like the nerve endings in your teeth go straight to your brain, which is why a, A, a tooth infection or, or a cavity can actually be so devastating because it has this like direct line of travel straight to your brain and you could actually die from a toothache. And so it makes sense that that's where they would start. But where they end is, you know, vaccine schedules that are now inoculating children en masse with these heavy metals. And so I think what we're seeing here is they stop the dental implants because vaccines work a hell of a lot better. Very interesting, very interesting.

[David Lee Corbo]

So again, they just completely miss. And I love to hear Ian Carroll's work, which when he makes it free, we will listen to it, but they just briefly pass over Puharich as doing this. They completely miss his, his book Beyond Telepathy, where he's basically saying how he's obsessed with this. I mean, it's so in the 50s, he's creating this, this dental implant device which goes along with his extremely low frequency waves wave technology to put in people unsuspectingly, I suppose. And, but they skip over the part where he's just, you know, obsessed with this idea of telepathy and studying it which correlates directly with, well, they. Telepathy.

[Top Lobster]

Huge. A really huge thing too, which I know we're not ready to cross this bridge yet. I don't know if we're going to cross it on this episode or if we're going to do another episode. But they completely leave out the communication with entities. Specifically.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yes, that's another. It's. That's a big one. And that is. That comes up again in more episodes. It comes up with the, the, the episode two family, the Indian family. Their names I forget because they're not regular English names, they're crazy names. But yeah, the mother, I guess, you know, coming from Manisha and Akil, the mother, coming from a background of this kind of weird spirituality, they probably understand all these, this pantheon of gods when Akil brings this up to her in, in a future episode.

[Top Lobster]

I actually have it right here if you want me to read it. So, yeah, Akil's reported messages from deceased ancestors and his claim that in my world people don't talk hinted a broader consciousness not limited by time, space or physical life. This aligns with spiritual traditions that view consciousness as universal or collective, with individuals tapping into a larger whole, broader implications for consciousness studies. Actually, this isn't the one that I thought it was. Is consciousness localized if accused?

[David Lee Corbo]

No, this is. It's because it. It happens. Like she comes back in a future episode and this is when they start. They start talking about spirituality because obviously this is where this is all leading. And that's. This is kind of where I figured we would. I would depart with my agreement with Kai Dickens here. But she, the mother, rightly tells him to, like, she's, like, she doesn't pay attention to it. Like, when your kid tells you you had a bad dream, you're kind of like, yeah, yeah, you know, go back to bed, it's fine. It's not. There are no.

[Top Lobster]

Into it.

[David Lee Corbo]

There's no ghosts. You don't feed into it. But she was concerned because he is accurately communicating with what he called is her ancestors. The other girl, Mia, even has she had encounters with some sort of spirits, things that.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, this actually really got me. So in the second episode, they all of a sudden start to talk about how Mia will just be sitting on her floor in. In the room, staring at the wall and seemingly occasionally communicating with somebody. And. And this is when her brother first chimes in. This is a really weird moment because if you go back and listen to it, it seems pretty innocuous until you analyze it. So Kai, or whoever the doctor is rather asks, well, did you ever ask her what she's seeing? And he said she's seeing. I think he said shadows. But what ends up happening is. It almost doesn't matter what he says. It's. It's not like it's a huge revelation. But his mother then hops in and goes, people. People. She's seeing people. She sees people, yeah. But before that, he says, like, she's interacting with people. She's laughing and things like that. And. And there's no. Like, what do you mean people? People where? People who? Her family, her ancestors? Is she in a different location? No questions are asked. She quickly says, people, and then they move on. And of course, what I'm beginning to suspect is, what are you seeing? Are you seeing people? Are you seeing entities? Are you seeing things masquerading as. Is she seeing anything horrifying? Because I refuse to believe that these kids are interacting with this spiritual realm and never coming across things that I know for certain exist. I've seen them myself. My wife has seen it and my son has seen them. Them. And they exist in this Realm. And these are just kids, right? So of course they're gonna see spooky. And I feel like that's what he was alluding to. And his mom just hopped in and said, people, people. She's seeing people anyway. And then they just moved on.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. So. All right, well, this is. This leads into episode three. And episode three opens with this idea of. She wants to paint this picture of what, whatever a CB radio is. This kind of idea, this, like a communication telepathically, but using some sort of electricity, something that they could turn on and turn off a place that they can go. And they're. The. The main person in this episode is a kid named Houston, another autistic kid. I think he's almost completely non verbal. They do the same test on him. Wow. Oh my God, look at all the stuff he can do. And it's all the same stuff, really. But they start to talk about this place called the Hill. And it's. This place is interesting because he's not the only person to call it this. And he's not in contact with anybody else really. Like, really nobody else. Like, these other kids are from, you know, all over the world. And they call this place the Hill. And it's a place where non speakers communicate like a. Like a radio channel.

[Top Lobster]

That's interesting. That's not the first time I've ever heard that, by the way. You know who has a very similar version of that? I don't know if it's just children, but I'm going to say it seems like it's mostly children, from what I've heard, that are experiencing the abduction phenomenon in the middle of the night. They will often all. And then there's this big question about whether or not the abduction phenomenon is always physical. So this, well could be the same thing in some sort of like a spiritual realm, an astral realm. But they will all find themselves in their sleeping clothes, kids that they've never met in real life and sometimes even go on to see in real life, like bump into and be like, oh my God, that's the kid from what I thought was a dream. They're all getting together in a central location and they are communicating with each other. And they are also communicating with these, you know, perceived ETs that come and abduct them. Them. But they'll. They'll find themselves at a place that's like, often described as like a hill. It's a little bit elevated, it's all grassy, it's nighttime. Maybe it's surrounded by trees. But the Hill itself is bare. Very interesting.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. And it's, it's funny because this, like, like this is what our show is basically about. It's where this new age idea, the collective consciousness that people would usually shoo shoe away, like this is kind of like the people who are talking about it are leftists or just retards or hippies, you know, this kind of stuff. Well, it turns out that it is true, which is what we've been saying. It's, it's a real thing. People experience this all the time. The question is, how exclusive is their experience? Like, are these autistic kids just going there and it's just them on his closed off CB radio? Or is there deception in this other realm, in this spiritual realm that people that we've been talking about for a long time, you know, the astral projection, the remote viewing now, the telekinesis or the, yeah, the, the telepathy. Telepathy that these kids are displaying. This is a huge, A huge deal. I think maybe this is where Ian Carroll kind of picks up on some of the CIA projects and the CIA interest in this. And Andreja Puharich is the guy who has spearheaded this investigation or this experiment into what we're seeing now. I just.

[Top Lobster]

Andreja Puharij being a guy that's around basically at the inception of the Central Intelligence Agency and that their, their work and their interests cross over massively. In fact, you know, we talked about in the last episode, it seems that Puharij almost becomes sort of like a Nick Fury for the intelligence agencies. He's going around and he's seeking out these amazing people with alleged psychic abilities in one way or another. And so, yeah, man, it's a, it's a very strange thing. And the, the question that I find. Ask. I find myself asking. Well, first off, it does feel like what we're seeing now is free range MK Ultra experiments.

[David Lee Corbo]

Sense.

[Top Lobster]

Right. It seems like we use this analogy a lot. Like, gone are the days of kidnapping John, strapping their eyes open and forcing them to watch some sort of propaganda while they're being injected with psychedelics. It now seems like it's much more hands off. Like almost like you can nudge these kids and they'll go to the right place at the right time and communicate with the right things. And the best version of that, if you're the intelligence agencies, is where you have minimal contact. You don't have to actually interact with them in a physical way. And then of course, within the astral realm, there's long been these Stories of like whether or not there are humans who have organized under a professional umbrella and are operating in the astral realm. So you'll hear like certain people tell stories about when I got to this location, like I got this sense that I had gone too far or seen something that I shouldn't see. And then suddenly I was aware that somebody else was there and they seemed like a, an adult human male in a professional setting, forcing me to either turn back or kicking me out of the astral realm. Like you, you know, this is a mapped out place that we have occupants in, professional occupants in. And I would imagine they're assets for these intelligence agencies. But there's a question that I want to Go ahead top.

[David Lee Corbo]

Here's some, some interesting information about the vaccine schedule. So the 20s to the 30s is when the, the tetanus vaccine was introduced, the Theria Tech vaccine was introduced. And these were like, wait, what year? From the 20s to the 30s. But they're introduced to the public. Like, hey, there's like a, you know, there's pertussis out there. Maybe you'd want to get this vaccine.

[Top Lobster]

And this is. Are we about to step in the. There's no such thing as a promising grassroots movements that's not co opted by the intelligence agencies.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, we are. So yeah, this is, it's not a targeted campaign. It's just like, it's not a universal schedule, it's just targeted. It's like if you want to be safe from this. So that's twenties to the thirties, then in the fifties the combinations start coming out. So you've got the diphtheria, tetanus and pertussis. They're combined in a vaccine that happens in 1948, which everything else starts, seems to start to happen in as well. And by 1955 there's a, there's pretty much an organized vaccination effort throughout the United States.

[Top Lobster]

Right on time.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yes. In the 1980s, in 1983 specifically, this is when they're recommending it to schools and they introduced the MMR. This is like pretty old stuff. But in 83 is when the formalized scheduling of the vaccines happens by the CDC. So yeah, so you'll see in the 50s is when this kind of stuff is developed and they start to really like this is. It seems like they're like, all right, we're on to something here.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

And then by the 80s they have now demanded that people take it. And it seems like in the last 10 years or so when we've seen a crazy spike, it went from 16 to like 70 recommended doses. So they have turned up the volume on what this is. And then also, I mean, pair with the idea of the Obama administration doing Obamacare, which it sounds great for health care, but really all that it is is it's a way to capture and control doctors and get their information.

[Top Lobster]

So now there's a barrier threatening to, to fine people who don't get Obamacare. Isn't that fun?

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, yeah, you can find people who don't get Obamacare or don't have health insurance. But really the big thing of what it is is that, that it makes healthcare more expensive in the long run because doctors coming in that want to start their practice have to come in with like, I don't know, it's like a hundred thousand dollars worth of computer equipment and programs in order to set up their practice. And this, these programs and computers, they just contribute the information to a large database which you would call Obamacare. So if you're looking at it, you're like, okay, so we're doing this to these children. We're performing this experiment on a mass level, among other experiments as well. They're doing stuff to adults and we have now gathered an information system as a web to catch everything and we've made you do it. It's illegal to not comply. Like you can't have a practice without complying with this. So it's like all directly from the government. All this stuff is directly from the government. This is all cdc, CIA, and they have some very unfortunate people, have garnered a lot of important information about human beings that I think in, in the future, when we find out what they were doing and why they were doing this stuff, we're going to be very upset if there's any, anybody left to even oppose it. And to me as a conspiracy theorist, that's what it seems like is going on here.

[Top Lobster]

There's one more thing that I think is worth mentioning and it's going to tie into something that's going to happen later on. I don't know if it's going to be today's episode or another episode, but I know of another group of nonverbal children who communicate telepathically. Black Eyed children.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh yeah, that's right.

[Top Lobster]

When women are abducted by aliens, forcibly inseminated, they carry a child somewhere into, you know, a lengthy pregnancy. They are confirmed by the doctors to have actually been pregnant. And then after a sleep paralysis event where they seem to have memories of abduction, they come back and they're no longer pregnant. And then years later are introduced to those children, and they can feel in their hearts that these children are theirs, but there's something wrong with them and they won't communicate. But they do communicate telepathically, but they won't communicate verbally. And the kids are often described as very fucking weird, which to me, I'm like, that is that it's such a odd coincidence, especially given the. The connection that I'm sure we're going to get into later on, which is this Puharij, the channeling of the nine, these entities and even their message, their message, rather, which if you guys remember from previous episodes, what the message is. The message is overwhelmingly, human beings have to advance. They have to ascend and take their place among this galactic federation or whatever. And also that there's some impending climate calamity on the way. And so I think that's a huge connection.

[David Lee Corbo]

You have. You have these kids that are basically wheelchair bound. Some of them are to the point where they, like, they are so out of their own bodies that they're just. They poop and throw it on the floor. They're running around. They're just completely cannot control their behavior. But when they're. When they're communicating telepathically or through this spelling, which is also an interesting phrase, spelling through the assisted spelling or spelling on their own through a computer or an iPad, they're all concerned with the environment. Everyone's like, we have to watch out for the environment. I'm like, what the. Do you care? You care about the environment. You were like, literally smearing poop on your walls. Your mother was going crazy for years, but now you come back. Now that you can communicate. This is what you're getting from this other side. That, like, we need to be really careful with the environment and what we do. And we do. Don't just throw stuff in the air. Don't throw. Don't leave garbage on the floor. Don't, you know, don't burn plastics in a huge pit if you don't have to. Don't throw stuff in the ocean. Sure, but why are all of these people that are communicating with entities and also who's to say who they're communicating with and how much they're actually telling us? Why haven't they told us before? Why now? Why you're. You're coming forward now to do this podcast to tell us about this stuff. You could have done this before, but no, now is the time.

[Top Lobster]

And I would say it's because we're. We're prime. There was a large Scale propaganda that had to take place before we were ready to accept these ideas. We needed to have some preconceived notions. And in order to do that at Mass, you need a pretty good, you know, size propaganda machine. And you need it to run for a few generations before you could and start to roll this out and just to. Who was it here? Somebody said something. I wanted to address it, but where did it go? Somebody said that it's our own government that is taking these kids and doing these. I would like to address the right person if I could just find it. I can't find it. I'm sorry. Oh, here we go. Eric Mong Monkey said, the graphene kids. Our own government abducts them, not aliens. And I would say that is probably correct. These aliens are, in my opinion, like a biomechanical mashup that was probably commissioned, inspired by some spiritual entity, but made by mankind. Much of the technology and everything that we see, even though it blows our minds, I think it's a. It's an unholy union of these spiritual entities and their guidance and aspects of our own government that are whipping up these pieces of technology and then partaking in what. Well, it seems to be a hybridization program which is, you know, a tale is old at time. That's the Serpent Seed. There's a genetic lineage that is at the root of all of this. There's a bloodline that's at the root of all this. And. And these things have always been interested in that. Right. To the extent that they used to create offspring with human women and create these monstrosities, the nephilim and the Raphaim and, you know, all the various branches of that. So I would say that it's just a rehashing of the same thing. And I would say you're correct. It is our own government that is abducting them.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, yes. I think that that's the. This is like the tragedy of this. Maybe we'll bring it in for a landing here. But I think it's. That's a tragedy of what the telepathy tapes are and what they're. What they're missing. On purpose or not on purpose, it's being presented as. And it is a message of hope. Right. It's a. It is a great message of hope to these parents. But it's like.

[Top Lobster]

Well, in order to have that hope, you first have to create, like, dismay.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. It's like problem solution. Right?

[Top Lobster]

Yeah. Hegelian dialectic. Right? Yeah. You. You create dire and desperate circumstances and then when people adapt and overcome, you then take those adaptations and you present them as if it's a breakthrough. And in reality, all of this, this is, in my opinion, I think it's very likely. This is a trauma based mind control operation that seeks to implement the most up version of an identity disassociative disorder in order to tap into these abilities and I think ultimately to create conduits or middlemen or. It's like, you know, we used to have the muses, right. In Greek mythology, you would have the oracle and she would be inundated with some sort of drug put in this state, and then that would make her antenna suddenly fine tuned to the frequency of these entities that would, you know, disseminate information. But technology, right. It's like any advanced technology would be perceived as magic, you know, by previous generations. And there's not really a, A, a difference between some of these things in magic. And I think all we've done now is we've taken those, that spiritual process. These are our new oracles.

[David Lee Corbo]

Adriano says this may have started under Eisenhower. I think this starts right after World War II. I think this starts when we, we bring in the Nazis. And I just released an episode yesterday with Stu Peters where I kind of have this discussion with them. We go back and forth. But then he gets into Hitler and the Nazi stuff. And I was like, absolutely not. Like, no, it's just not, it's not where you're saying, I'm not going to be a Nazi, bro. I'm not going to be a Hitler, bro. Hitler was into this weird. Whether he knew about it or not happened under his administration. But what certainly did happen is we absorbed their scientists who were working on crazy occultic like this.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

And it's no surprise that, you know, 1948 happens. 1947, we get, oh, we get the state of Israel, among other things.

[Top Lobster]

But you get Operation Paperclip Mengele, right. The angel of death. He's, he's obsessed with twins and their psychic abilities and connections. He's torturing and tormenting them and he's, he's trying to figure out how it works. He's also obsessed with like, people with specific eye patterns. He's, you know, injecting adrenaline into their eyes to try to change their eye color. Like this is. Yeah, Himmler is balls deep in the occult whether or not Hitler actually new, which is such a flippant dismissal. Like it's letting the guy off the, off the hook.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's being fair. I'm being fair. Like, all right. Fine. I understand that you think he did some great things. And. And it's also hard to. It's hard to battle against, I don't know, 80 years of this guy being the worst person ever. When then you look and you're like, ah, the people he was opposing are pretty awful, too. And now I have to fight that conditioning from, you know, a group of people who should be on my side. It's, It's. It's a difficult process, and it's a tenuous process, but it is possible to do if people can listen and, and hear what I'm trying to say. But it's, you know, from 1947, 1948, when we start implementing these scientists and putting them all throughout our government, for whatever reason, this country starts to go crazy. Like, when I think of the idea make America great again, I think right before Operation Paperclip, right before pot, like our involvement In World War II, whatever the hell that was, that's when America was great again, because that's when we were sovereign and doing our own thing. People want to talk about Jewish infiltration, and all this stuff is like, yes, all this is very true, but I think at the very base of it, it makes me sound like a lefty. But you see how this comes, like, full circle. Yeah, it's very hard to talk.

[Top Lobster]

It's like, it's almost. It's almost beautiful in that. Beautiful because you're forced to align yourself with. With the most despicable people. But not really. Not really. They're. They're in opposed or opposition to these things for the wrong reason.

[David Lee Corbo]

Like, they hate Elon Musk. And I'm like, I don't really like him. I don't trust him either, but they hate him for the wrong reasons. And I'm just like, I made a tweet that said they'll all. They'll all skip past the. The Mark of the Beast, which will be distributed by Elon Musk. But they'll do it accidentally and still go to. They'll still go to hell, though, for sodomy.

[Top Lobster]

It's actually a banger.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, they just missed the main thing. But the thing is, like, so all this stuff starts in the 40s, the late 40s, early 1950s. You get Andrea Puharic, you get the Nazi experimentations. It's a continuation of what they were doing over there in Nazi Germany, which we still don't really know to the. The extent to which they were doing these things. But it's certainly here in America and they've been doing it now at a prolific level in America. I think that the things that they were doing in Germany, they couldn't really complete in Germany. It might have been too small of a sample size or it might have. Maybe they didn't want to do this to the German people, so they moved their operation.

[Top Lobster]

They didn't have the propaganda machine. Think about how far the sort of development of these spiritual ideas and the development of whatever these entities are and all these other narratives has come since the days of World War II, specifically here in the States. And all of that is because of, you know, Hollywood and NASA and the scientific community. So I would say that maybe somebody looked at what Hitler was doing and was like, very promising. Very promising.

[David Lee Corbo]

Too small?

[Top Lobster]

Not yet. Not yet. There's some things we got to lay out here. And this is going to work really well, but you're not going to be able to see the. The labor, the fruits of your labor. This is going to be a generational thing. It has to go.

[David Lee Corbo]

Also. It wouldn't have worked in. I mean, in Germany, it's like, all right, so who did he have in the camps? You had some Jews in there. There was a couple of blacks in there. There was some other people from Eastern Europe. But in America, it's like. It's almost like America was created as this mixing pot, like this melting pot. Oh, look at. Look, all the people of the world are here. And now we're gonna do an experiment to see how they all react to what we are trying to implement. And it's like, it's perfect. If you think about it along those lens, along those lines, it is the perfect. I. It's the perfect setting for an experiment. It makes me feel crazy. I love it when David speculates wildly with absolutely no proof or evidence. Yeah, I know. I do the same thing.

[Top Lobster]

I appreciate that. Yeah. I mean, I. I just think it was an idea whose time hadn't come yet. And I think that's what we're seeing right now. Look, I know we're going to wrap it up. I want to leave people with an idea of where we're going in these next episodes so that they see that there's actually more here. A lot more here. We still have to talk about the nine, the Ennead.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right.

[Top Lobster]

Puharij. And how these spiritual entities who are seemingly the same spiritual entities that ruled over ancient Egypt and also seemingly pop up in a lot of this narrative when it comes to Buharij and it comes to Aleister Crowley and all these different things, how that fits into this whole picture. And we have to start to talk about what Joe Rogan's role is in this entire thing. And we also have to talk about what Elon Musk's role is in this entire thing. So I know a lot of people are like, where is this going? I think we might have figured out where it's going. And so if you tune in for the next episode, we've got some real heavy speculation, for sure, but it's going to be our job to show you guys a line of thought. And we're not asking you to believe it, but once it exposes itself, it becomes incredibly compelling and pretty damning because it looks like we're at the very end of this thing that's been kicking off since, like, the 1940s.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, that's why it's. It was like we were watching other people cover this and talk about it, and we're just like, oh, I hope. I hope it doesn't propagate the Internet. Internet enough, where people latch on to whatever narrative they're talking about, because it's probably really good, but there's a part that they're missing. There's an angle that translates to this bigger picture. Again, once we start talking about Project Stargate, start incorporating Elon Musk and what he's doing, his patenting of the word telepathy or his trademarking of the term telepathy and telekinesis, it gets very dicey. And then at this exact moment, at this exact moment in time, this is all going down, all coming to a head. The number one podcast in the world, the number two podcast in the world, making the. Making it the number one podcast in the world for a little bit of time, and then hosting Elon Musk, among other things, basically getting Donald Trump as president. He whispered in Joe Rogan's ear, you won the presidency. For me, this shit is big. It's bigger than we understand. And honestly, there's not a goddamn thing we could do to stop it.

[Top Lobster]

No, but we can do what we're supposed to do, which is tell the truth. And I don't know if we're right, but I'm not gonna lie. Like, we didn't sleuth through all this information and uncover this narrative through some sort of lies. And it'll be up to you guys, the audience, to decide. But I use this euphemism in our telegram chat. I said, it seems like top and I have stumbled upon. And I. I do use that. That phrase, like, legitimately. We stumbled upon it. We're Just morons. We're. And somehow this thing fell into our lap. I don't know if it's the truth, but I'm gonna show you what we found. And I think this thing is a bit of a Leviathan. And so it's gonna be. It's a big one. And then. And then, you know what?

[David Lee Corbo]

I. I think I'm going to. We're gonna edit this episode as well. Edit it in a way where there are no, you know, words to get us tagged. All the V stuff we were talking about.

[Top Lobster]

I'm definitely stuff in the V stuff.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, we're gonna get rid of that stuff. I think we should put this up as an entire episode. But we also will. I want to break this down into a more digestible fashion. So if you guys are listening and watching, whether this is the live show, it's not going to be up anywhere yet. But if it's a live show or if it's going to be the edited version, post it around, send it to your friends. That's the only way for this kind of stuff to get out there and go viral. Because there are people now like, that have huge followings. You know, Ian, being one of them, got a million followers just on Twitter. And he's gonna. He's gonna be pushing out his narrative of this lady's narrative.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Which was pushed by Joe Rogan to the world.

[Top Lobster]

And we are. Go ahead, Go ahead. I'm sorry.

[David Lee Corbo]

I'm saying we're at the very bottom of this stuff. Like, we were at the. The low man on the totem pole. But I think we have the most. Some of the most compelling information, or at least information that is. Might be leading in the correct direction to help people understand what's going on. Yeah. So, yeah, share it around, like, subscribe. Do all that. That stuff that they tell you to do on Popular.

[Top Lobster]

What we're standing up against, this thing that we're pushing back against, this is, you know, fucking the Nazi regime. This is the. The alien rebranding situation. This is the New Age movement. This is Joe Rogan, Elon Musk, Donald Trump, fucking potentially Ian Carroll. Like, we're putting ourselves in front of the biggest fucking machine that I don't think a lot of people realize is in motion. They don't see it yet. It's like we're too close to the situation. We're looking at Elon Musk, and we're thinking, we get it. We're looking at the alien UAP disclosure. We're thinking we're getting it we're actually just looking at one leg of an entity, Another leg of an entity. We need to zoom out. And if we zoom out, I think people are going to realize this is a massive entity and it's already in motion. So it's fucking Tiananmen Square up in this bitch. And we're just a couple little gooks.

[David Lee Corbo]

We are. Somebody. Somebody edit me and David looking at the tank.

[Top Lobster]

Oh, please.

[David Lee Corbo]

Standing in front of it.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah. Michael says, have you all tried, actually tried reaching out to Ian Carroll to get him on your show? He went on we are changed. So I don't think he's above going on your show in conversations. I'm not saying that Ian Carroll is necessarily like an op or anything like that. I'm just afraid that there is a narrative that everybody is. That's digestible for everybody. And it is that one of like ascension and, and, you know, this new realm of science and all this other shit and the new age movement, yada, yada. And I'm afraid that he is going to promote that. So what I would say to Ian Carroll is not that I think you're a fed, but he's got a huge platform. He might want to hear this out before he starts using that platform to potentially run with the narrative that they're giving us.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, or maybe continue to do what you're doing, because this might be more dangerous and it might not get you invited on Joe Rogan again, but it certainly is. What the hell is going on right now?

[Top Lobster]

Like, again, we might be wrong, I.

[David Lee Corbo]

Don'T know, to beat this, to beat this to, to death. We've got basically what is being happened. What is being done to these kids is they're being put in a sensory deprivation tank, forced to disassociate and then studied.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

And we're acting like, this is amazing. This is, it's. I mean, it is kind of amazing, but it's horrible.

[Top Lobster]

Well, that is, you're stepping on something. And I know we're going to get into it, but you're stepping on the Rogan realm right now and we're going to get into the whole Rogan thing next episode. And I'm not saying that Rogan's even a part of this, although. So it's very hard for me to imagine that the CIA wouldn't have a vested interest in co opting his fucking platform. And if you don't think that he would take the money, would he yield to death threats? I don't know.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's. It's hard to say. Who's that? I don't even know if that is really it. But who's to say, like, if. If you're presented this information the same way Ian's presented, or same way we are, we see this show or we hear about it, we present it. I would have this lady on, too, to discuss it as well.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

And if. If she's just telling me this stuff, like, right off the top of my head, what pushback am I supposed to really have? What other kind of views am I supposed to really have? Unless I've done two years of schizophrenic deep dives into biblical. Biblical topics under the. The current world view of the current world lens, I don't know. So they're getting this information. I just think that we have a unique tool, a unique prism that we're putting up and looking at this thing and going, oh, wait a second. Makes a lot more sense through this, through this lens than, you know, just the pure political or just the pure entertainment or just the pure medical stuff, your medical autistic stuff. Just the pure CIA conspiracy. It's. It's. It's all of these things, but there's also a little bit more.

[Top Lobster]

It's.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, it's the big, like, all the things that we as conspiracy theorists constantly orbit around and talk about. They're all just one big conjoined picture. And we talk about that all the time on nds. It's like we're just looking at these puzzle pieces and figuring out how to make them fit, and then we end up talking about the same thing every episode. Because it all connects. This is almost. It feels like what it all connects to. So, guys, we have a lot of. On the horizon, right. We're working on Bohemian Grove for this coming June. We are working on opening an IRL studio. We just launched Dangerous Retards. We have this big leviathan that we're kind of, you know, we're trying to uncover. And I'm going to be moving soon to get to a place that's going to be near this studio that we're going to open. So this is, you know, the. The information doesn't take a back seat. It's kind of funny that during all this, you know, kind of. What would you call it? What is a plane experience? Turbulence during all this turbulence that we would stumble upon this thing that demands so much of our attention. So I just want to reiterate, guys, this is not a. A small task, what we're doing, and it requires a lot of man hours and a lot of research on top of what we're already doing. Please consider heading on over to patreon.com backslash Nephilim Death Squad and signing up for whatever tier you'd like. And you know, in order to support our work, to give us the funds that we need to be able to pull these things off and justify spending a disproportionate amount of time schizo researching, you can head over to patreon.com backslash Nephilim Death Squad, sign up for the 7 day free trial and enjoy an ad free viewing experience as well as early access to content before the general public. Great way to support the show, guys. Guys.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yes, and until then, we'll. We'll be on today with Ryder Lee. Raised by giants. Yeah, I don't know if that's live or not, but we will be on with him. So if you're there, check it out. Until then, don't forget to obey, submit and comply. See you later, guys.

[Top Lobster]

The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is a problem box in the corner of the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. You can persuade that what they see.

[David Lee Corbo]

With their eyes is what there is.

[Top Lobster]

To see, you know, because they'll act in the face of an explanation that.

[David Lee Corbo]

Portrays the bigger picture of what and they have.