Podcast Summary: Nephilim Death Squad - Episode 148: "It Can't be People" with Citizen D
Introduction
In Episode 148 of Nephilim Death Squad, hosted by TopLobsta Productions, Top Lobster and Raven engage in a deep and thought-provoking discussion with guest David Lee Corbeau, also known as Citizen D. The episode delves into the enigmatic world of crop circles, exploring the intersection of human involvement and unexplained phenomena. Through personal anecdotes, expert insights, and intriguing stories, the conversation navigates the thin line between human ingenuity and possible supernatural or extraterrestrial influences.
Key Topics Discussed
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Crop Circles: Human-Made vs. Supernatural Origins
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Distinguishing Intentions: David Lee Corbeau distinguishes between crop circles created by pranksters or hoaxers and those made with a genuine spiritual or paranormal intent. He emphasizes that while some crop circles are mere artistic expressions or jokes, others are crafted by individuals deeply connected to the phenomenon's spiritual or mysterious aspects.
"You've unconsciously actually opened a bit of a minefield there because the ones that I'm focusing on are made by people. But there is a distinction because you do have people like pranksters, hoaxers..." [04:03]
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Evolution of Crop Circles: The discussion traces the evolution of crop circles from simple circular designs resembling UFO landing sites to more complex and symbolic patterns that suggest deeper meanings and messages.
"The original crop circles were based the Australian Tully nests from the 1970s, which did resemble birthed UFOs... but what happened was the imagery between you between UFOs and crop circles because it was so strong in the public psyche that suddenly it turned from birthed UFOs to oh, messages from our space brothers." [05:37 - 07:11]
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Personal Experiences and Stories from David Lee Corbeau
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First Encounter with Crop Circles: David recounts his initial skepticism and eventual fascination with crop circles after witnessing unexplained phenomena during their creation. His first experience involved seeing unexpected lights and flashes, which shifted his perspective from dismissing crop circles as hoaxes to considering a more profound mystery.
"When we finished the circle, nothing happened at all. I thought, this is just a load of hogwash... But the second that we finished it, I looked at the perimeter edge... and something incredible happened." [73:14 - 75:31]
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Synchronicities and Dreams: David shares stories of recurring dreams and synchronicities that guide the creation of crop circles, suggesting a connection to a collective consciousness or higher power.
"I had dreamt two designs in my mind and I had this recurring dream... And then I saw that the name of the road that I turned down by mistake was the same road that this kid had lived in when I used to go around his house at school." [16:10 - 19:16]
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Intersection with UAP/UFO Phenomenon
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UAP Sightings During Crop Circle Creation: The conversation highlights frequent sightings of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAPs) and unusual lights during the creation of crop circles, raising questions about possible extraterrestrial involvement or observation.
"We've seen that they will all be seen. There's UAPs seen, there's pink lights... but at no point were humans brought into the mix." [11:22 - 13:03]
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Military Involvement: David mentions the proximity of military bases to crop circle sites and instances where military helicopters surveilled or interacted with the teams creating crop circles.
"There's always big military bases or every single place we go that there's a big military base always coincidentally nearby... We've been buzzed by choppers." [75:31 - 77:29]
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Synchronicities and Collective Consciousness
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Collective Effort and Shared Experiences: The episode explores the idea that multiple crop circle makers experience similar dreams, synchronicities, and motivations, hinting at a shared or collective unconscious driving the phenomenon.
"Time and time again, a circle maker give me a story. And I've got... 10 other people at the top with the same thing. So I'm just using the best, you know, the best one. I've got nothing to gain at all." [85:26 - 87:36]
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Cultural Tracking and Historical Parallels: David discusses theories like John Keel's cultural tracking, which posits that paranormal phenomena evolve in tandem with human cultural and psychological states.
"Jack Valle argues that this is the same phenomenon... it tracks where we are within our evolution and then places a trope just ahead 10 years ahead of us." [40:04 - 42:19]
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Paranormal Activities During Crop Circle Creation
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Mysterious Lights and Figures: Participants share experiences of encountering unexplained lights, figures, and sounds while creating crop circles, suggesting an interaction with unseen entities or energies.
"We saw a pink light appearing just as we're about to make the crop circle... It was glistening around us... we saw an opaque shadow over the crop." [72:11 - 80:32]
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Direct Interactions: David recounts an incident where a team leader communicated with an ethereal presence, signaling the completion of their task.
"He said, that is just it telling us that it's finished. Don't do anything more to the circle... We've done our bit now. Now you go and do your work." [73:14 - 75:31]
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Challenges and Skepticism Faced by Crop Circle Makers
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Public and Community Pushback: David addresses the skepticism and negative responses crop circle makers often face, including accusations of hoaxing and attempts to delegitimize genuine experiences.
"When you go on a forum and you say this is a human made crop circle, but something really strange happened, you just get the trolls because they don't want to hear it." [88:23 - 89:37]
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Protecting Autonomy and Intent: The guest discusses the internal conflict between adhering to the intended spiritual message of the crop circles and the external pressures to conform to mainstream narratives.
"I try to pay reverence and pay deference to the phenomenon... The second you say I did that and you give it authorship, it becomes like deactivated." [67:07 - 69:26]
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Notable Quotes
- "If you know, you know." – Top Lobster [02:00]
- "The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going on is absolutely enormous." – David Lee Corbeau [00:36]
- "There's something else going on. But what we can't work out, guys, is whether we are actually communicating with each other through the collective consciousness, through the species field, or whether there's something else at play." – David Lee Corbeau [15:30]
- "And I think that what happens is human beings are motivated by something outside of themselves to engage in something." – Top Lobster [94:04]
- "The importance is often something that we've made as a mistake or it's something. Not something with the intent that is intentional." – David Lee Corbeau [65:26]
Conclusion
Episode 148 of Nephilim Death Squad offers a compelling exploration of the mysterious world of crop circles, blending personal experiences with broader theoretical discussions. Through the insights of David Lee Corbeau, listeners gain a nuanced understanding of the potential human and supernatural elements intertwined in the creation of these enigmatic patterns. The episode challenges listeners to reconsider preconceived notions about crop circles and encourages a deeper investigation into the synchronicities and unexplained phenomena that continue to captivate and perplex enthusiasts around the world.
For those interested in unraveling the complexities of crop circles and their connection to broader paranormal phenomena, this episode serves as a thought-provoking and engaging resource.
Additional Resources:
- David Lee Corbeau's Substack: For more in-depth articles and personal stories from Citizen D, visit It Can't be People.
- Support Nephilim Death Squad: Become a supporter here.
