154: The Client List w/ Nick Bryant

Summary

Nephilim Death Squad - Episode 154: The Client List w/ Nick Bryant

Release Date: April 19, 2025
Host: TopLobsta Productions

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Introduction

In Episode 154 of Nephilim Death Squad, hosts TopLobsta Productions engage in a profound conversation with renowned journalist Nick Bryant. The episode delves deep into the harrowing truths surrounding the Jeffrey Epstein case, exploring themes of child trafficking, government corruption, media complicity, and the ongoing struggle for justice faced by the victims.

Nick Bryant’s Background and Investigative Journey

[02:21]

Nick Bryant introduces himself as a dedicated journalist with a focus on uncovering political blackmail and child trafficking networks. He highlights his notable works, including:

• "The Franklin Scandal": "a story of power brokers, child abuse and betrayal."
• *"Confessions of a D.C. Madam, the Politics of Sex, Lies and Blackmail."
• *"The Truth About: A Tale of Extraordinary Lies and Liars."

Bryant emphasizes his early involvement in investigating the Epstein case, stating, "I believe I was the first journalist onto that reality" ([02:21]).

Uncovering Epstein’s Network: Black Book and Flight Logs

[07:49]

Bryant recounts his initial investigation into Epstein, which began in Florida, focusing on Miami and Fort Lauderdale rather than Mar-a-Lago. His breakthrough came through obtaining Epstein’s black book and later flight logs. "I was the guy that put the black book on the Internet in 2015" ([07:49]), he reveals, underscoring the reluctance of major publications to engage with his findings initially. It took three years before platforms like Gawker published the information, leading to widespread dissemination. Bryant laments the media's hesitation, attributing it to the unsettling nature of uncovering such deep-seated corruption.

Government Corruption and the Grand Jury Cover-Up

[12:10]

Delving into the systemic failures, Bryant discusses how the federal government, particularly under U.S. Attorney Alexander Acosta, "was told that he had to stand down because Epstein was intelligence" ([12:10]). He elaborates on the corruption within the grand jury system, explaining how victims were discredited and marginalized. "The grand juror system is very, very flawed," Bryant asserts, detailing how victims were labeled as prostitutes and made to feel ashamed ([12:10]).

Media Complicity and Failure to Advocate for Victims

[16:46]

Bryant criticizes the media’s handling of the Epstein case, particularly the Netflix documentary. He describes it as a "horrible documentary" that fails to convey the brutal realities faced by the victims ([19:22]). He argues that media outlets have focused on salacious details rather than advocating for justice, thereby neglecting the profound suffering of the victims.

The Epstein Compensation Program: NDAs and Limited Justice

[50:36]

Addressing the Epstein Victims Compensation Program, Bryant exposes its flaws. "When women get a settlement from that program, that's it. They sign an NDA and they can't go after any of their other perpetrators," he explains ([44:37]). This practice, he argues, silences victims and prevents them from seeking comprehensive justice. Bryant dissects the inequities within the program, noting discrepancies in settlement amounts and the coercive nature of the NDAs.

Flight Logs and the Implications of Association

[40:23]

The discussion turns to the infamous flight logs, where Bryant distinguishes between perpetrators and possibly innocent passengers. He shares a poignant story of a young woman misled by Epstein's association with Bill Clinton, ultimately coercing her into exploitation: "Epstein had one of the girls perform fellatio on him... she’s gonna go to an island," highlighting the manipulative tactics used to trap victims ([40:23]).

Epstein’s Death and Ongoing Conspiracy Theories

[28:35]

Bryant touches upon the controversial circumstances surrounding Epstein’s death. While acknowledging various conspiracy theories, he remains focused on the pressing issue of seeking justice for the victims. "We have girls that have been trafficked for 25 years that are very damaged and they need justice," he emphasizes, considering the rampant speculation about Epstein’s demise as a distraction ([29:00]).

Call to Action: Seeking Justice for Victims

[57:53]

In the concluding segment, Bryant passionately urges listeners to support his nonprofit, EpsteinJustice.com. "We need justice for Epstein-trafficked girls for 25 years," he states ([53:06]). He outlines his strategy to indict known pimps and leverage established evidence to dismantle the trafficking networks. Bryant envisions a ripple effect where major perpetrators will expose higher-level abusers, similar to Mafia-style RICO prosecutions.

Final Thoughts and Support for the Movement

[60:03]

As the episode wraps up, Bryant reaffirms his commitment to justice, asserting, "We have the information we can indict Epstein perps with," and reiterates the importance of public support in his mission ([60:03]). He provides listeners with resources to access his work and encourages active participation in the movement to hold the government accountable.

Notable Quotes

• Nick Bryant

  • "I believe I was the first journalist onto that reality." ([02:21])
  • "When you cover up a crime, you're aiding, abetting that crime." ([12:18])
  • "The grand juror system is very, very flawed." ([12:10])
  • "We need justice for Epstein-trafficked girls for 25 years." ([53:06])
  • "We have the information we can indict Epstein perps with." ([60:03])

• David Lee Corbo

  • "It's not only just impunity, it's also the implications of it." ([15:49])
  • "Justice for the victims of Epstein and operations like Epstein's is much more appealing than settlements and NDAs." ([58:43])

• Top Lobster

  • "I kind of want to address something that I didn't intend on addressing." ([05:39])
  • "The longer they kick this down the road, and the more people stew on it, the angrier they get." ([59:26])

Conclusion

Episode 154 of Nephilim Death Squad presents a compelling narrative on the Epstein case through the lens of Nick Bryant’s investigative work. The discussion underscores the pervasive issues of child trafficking, institutional corruption, and media failures, while also highlighting the resilience and ongoing fight for justice among the victims. Listeners are left with a poignant call to action to support initiatives aimed at dismantling these dark networks and holding perpetrators accountable.

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Resources:

• Nick Bryant’s Website: NickBryantNYC.com
• Epstein Justice Nonprofit: EpsteinJustice.com

Transcript

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[Top Lobster]

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We are being hypnotized by people like this. News readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers. We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people. The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going.

[Nick Bryant]

On is absolutely enormous. Yeah, dude, there's some Nephilim.

[Unknown]

It's like we all know what's going down but no one's saying to what happened to the home of the brave? They control us now when no one's talking about how they made us finally slaves and everybody's just walking around heading the clouds and want to wake into a dead in the grave finally too late. We need to be ready to raise up. Welcome to the end of day. Everybody is slave. Only some are aware that the government.

[Nick Bryant]

Releasing poison in the air.

[David Lee Corbo]

Welcome back ladies and gentlemen to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad. I am David Lee Corbo, AKA the Raven, that is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation. Before we get into today's guest, I would like to remind all of our live viewers that this is a 30 minute preview only. Sometime around the 30 minute mark we'll be going live exclusively to patreon.com backslash Nephilim Death Squad. But you can continue watching along, enjoying an ad free experience and also engaging in the live chat. And you could do it for free. Sign up for a seven day free trial and absorb as much content as you can before the billing cycle kicks in. But I bet you're going to want to stay. So go on over to patreon.com backslash nephilim death squad at that half hour mark and continue enjoying this show. Guys, Today we are joined by Nick Bryant. Nick, for the audience members who may not be familiar with your work, let us know what it is you focus on and where they can find your work.

[Nick Bryant]

I'm a journalist and I've written a number of books, probably the most popular book I've written is called the Franklin Scandal, a story of power brokers, child abuse and betrayal. I co authored confessions of a D.C. madam, the politics of Sex, Lies and Blackmail. And I also wrote a book called the Truth About A Tale of Extraordinary Lies and Liars. And the one common denominator with all those, with those three books are political blackmail by intelligence. And there was, and I'm amazed that very few people know this, but the dnc, the Democratic National Committee, actually was funneling its big shots to a. A CIA brothel where they would be filmed. And then the Franklin scandal was about a child trafficking network that was also participated in blackmail and confessions of a D.C. ma'am, the politics of Sex, Lies and Blackmail. That kind of says it all. But I got into Epstein in 2012. I had written the Franklin Scandal and it was published. I spent seven years on the Franklin scandal, and it was published in 2010. And the Franklin Scandal is about this huge child trafficking network that got covered up. It's kind of a carbon copy of the Epstein Trafficking Network. And I'd spent seven years on this, and I was pretty exhausted after. I mean, to go as deep as I went and to spend seven years on such a brutally dark topic was very difficult. But then Epstein started popping up on my radar. And at that point, he was just a lone pedophile. And I felt like I had to go down to Florida and investigate it because something wasn't quite right about him being a lone pedophile. He'd gotten away with too much. And that's when I came across his black book. And then I started calling victims. There was there's like 200 victims in his book, black book. And I started calling victims, and they were telling me about being flown around. And then at that point, I knew that Epstein was overseeing a network. And I believe I was the first guy journalist that was. Was onto that reality. As I said earlier, he'd just been looked at as a lone pedophile.

[David Lee Corbo]

That time frame is. Is hugely ahead of the curve. 2012 is when it gets on your radar. And there are those within the sort of, I guess, whistleblower community or people who are seeking the truth about these narratives who were mentioning Epstein, but far and few in between. So the fact that you were that early to it, I just want to say, Nick, it's almost a miracle that you're even sitting here talking to us. We do a fair bit of talking about, you know, political espionage and, and sexual blackmail operations, but we're just a couple of podcasters we're not writing books. It's certainly not our. Our central focus. But you are writing books, and it is your central focus. And you've picked a dangerous place to kind of spread your wings.

[Top Lobster]

I kind of want to address something that I didn't intend on addressing. I thought we were going to basically be focusing on the Epstein trial, but. And of course, I just lost the link from your website. Here you have a book on disassociative disorders in children. Is that something that happened that you were looking into prior, or is this something that you started looking into after you're, you know, watching the Franklin scandal and Epstein stuff?

[Nick Bryant]

I had written a lot about children's issues earlier in my career, and there were a number of. There's a number of therapists out there internationally that know that networks like the Franklin network and the Epstein network exist, and they counsel, generally a lot of these victims have dissociative identity disorder, and they counsel victims that have dissociative identity identity disorder, which was generally called multiple personality disorder. And I, they, they were very impressed with the Franklin scandal because they knew about these networks, but they've never. But, but a book has never really been written about one. One with journalistic integrity. And I started talking to some of these psychiatrists, and actually, I, I, they're all affiliated with the International Society for the Study of Trauma and Dissociation. And I spoke at one of their international conferences, and I also spoke at a webinar that they put on, and I contributed a chapter to a book that was edited by psychologists and psychiatrists. I, I gotten to know the lay of the land pretty well when it comes to child trafficking. I've been looking into child trafficking since 2002. So I've been. I've been out about 23 years.

[Top Lobster]

Dark field. Dark field to be in.

[David Lee Corbo]

Dangerous one.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah. All right, so where do you, where do you want to begin with? I mean, were you in. When you're talking about Florida, you're talking about Mar a Lago, when you start to investigate Epstein?

[Nick Bryant]

No, I'm not talking about Mar a Lago. I just started taking. I started looking at Miami and Fort Lauderdale, and at a certain point, I was able to get the black book. I cultivated a relationship with an attorney who had represented a number of the victims, and then he ultimately gave me the black book. And I also had flight logs, too. I didn't get flight logs that time, but I, I later got flight logs. So I was the guy that put the black book on the Internet in 2015, and I also put flight logs on the Internet in 2015, and I came back to New York City with all that stuff in 2012, and I reached out to publishers and magazine editors and I said, I've got Epstein's life book. I mean, we can do something with this. And no one wanted to touch it. Nobody. It took me three years before a platform was willing to. Was. Was willing to publish it, and that was Gawker. And I published both the Black book and then flight logs on Gawker, wrote some articles about them, and that's how it got disseminated to the world. But what's I find fascinating is once the Black Book had been published, every publication. I mean, the floodgates open, and every publication imaginable started writing about the black Book. And only two credited me with actually ushering the black book into public consciousness. The rest didn't really want to travel with me at all. And I think that that's because of the Franklin scandal. When I was pitching the Franklin scandal in 2002, 2003, this was long before Epstein. And I was telling these editors, this is a pedophile network that was flying kids from coast to coast. And it was covered up immaculately, covered up by the feds and also by the state. And that was a message they didn't want to hear. And when I would meet with editors, some of them would just come out and say, libel, libel, liable libel. And then I knew that that was kind of a dead end. But then there were a couple of editors I met with, and I could see the wheels going around, and then I could see the cognitive dissonance occurring where they were thinking, this is a horrible story, and I need to help Nick Bryant expose this. Or I can just write Nick Bryan off as crazy and I can have a nice dinner with my family tonight. And I was surprised because I had a lot of. I live. I've lived in Manhattan for many years, and I've been a writer here, journalist for many years. And I was very. You know, I thought I knew that most of my step into the world.

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[Nick Bryant]

Friends and colleagues would be spineless. But I didn't think all of them would be spineless. That's what kind of took me by surprise that all, all of them were spineless.

[David Lee Corbo]

Do you think that that spinelessness enabled what we now see all these years later? It's over a decade later. It's almost 15 years later. We're still turning the wheels on this. It's got to be frustrating to a degree from your point of view, Nick, to be watching this and then to see like let's say the phase one of the Epstein files get released. And I'm not as well versed in it as, as other researchers are, but from where I'm standing, it looks very much like, I don't know, it confirmed the flight logs. But we've had those flight logs for quite a while. Some of them, I even wonder or suspect came from you.

[Nick Bryant]

You know, some of them did indeed come from me.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right, so from where you're sitting, is it at all frustrating to watch the slow roll of this? I mean, it's in the public eye in such a big way and we're still not getting.

[Nick Bryant]

Well, what we have is when you cover up a crime, you're aiding, abetting that crime. So what we have is the federal government aiding and abetting child trafficking. And that's a horrible message. That's not a message that people really want to embrace that the federal government. But that is in fact the case the department of justice for the southern district, Florida had A list of 34 Epstein victims. 34 Epstein victims, underage victims that had been molested in traffic. And Alexander Acosta, who was the U. S. Attorney at the time, was going to ostensibly pursue a grand jury to look into the matter. But and this has been reported in many different milieu's, he was told that he had to stand down because Epstein was intelligence. And to tell a U.S. attorney to stand down, that can only come from one of two places, either the presidential administration or at the zenith of the department of justice. So that's how much juice was used to cover up Jeffrey Epstein. And there was, before that there was a very corrupt grand jury. And I you can go to my website or the website, I started a non profit organization called Epsteinjustice.com and your viewers can go to that and take a look at what we've got. But I made a video about the very corrupt grand jury. I don't know if your audience is familiar with grand juries, but they're Very easy to corrupt. You just have to get a special prosecutor that's corrupt. And then grand jurors are just citizens that have shown up for jury duty. And the grand juror system is very, very flawed. There's actually. There's only two countries in the world that use the grand jury system. One is the United States, and one is that bastion of justice, Liberia. But the special prosecutor shows the grand jurors the evidence that he wants them to see and calls the witnesses that he wants to call. And in the case of the Epstein grand jury, there were victims that were called. One had been getting molested since she was 16, and she was 18 at the time. And one was molested when she was 14, and she was 16 at the time. And the grand jurors are calling these girls prostitutes and telling them that they should be ashamed for themselves. And. And here's another travesty of justice. In the Epson case, the Palm Beach Police Department had the statements of five underage girls that had been molested by Epstein, but they knew of 17 more, and only two were called. I mean, that shows you. And then they were skewered by the special prosecutor. So that shows you just how corrupt both the state process and the federal process have been, with children getting. Essentially what we have is children getting molested with impunity without any kind of state or federal intervention.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's not only just impunity, it's also the implications of it. Because it's not just a human trafficking ring that's trafficking children. It's also one in which the. The end result is a tremendous amount of leverage that you have over an individual who you've now blackmailed. So what I'm getting at is the implications of this human trafficking ring are such that it. It actually has the ability to place people in very influential positions of power within our government or our media even. And it's not just the judicial system that's guilty of, like, really kind of gunking up the gears on this process. You also have that same instance of slowing this down happen with the ABC reporter, Right? So she's. She's on hidden camera, or she doesn't realize she's on a hot mic or something like that. And she's talking about how she had the Epstein story many years prior to it blowing up in a big way again in 2019.

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[David Lee Corbo]

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[Nick Bryant]

What's truly unfortunate is no one in the media has called for justice in the Epstein case. And there was a big Epstein document dump a little over a year ago. And CNN contacted me because I'd been the guy that put the black book on the Internet. And they wanted to get my feedback on the document cache that was getting released. And I was texting with the producer throughout the day and that was about to go on. And then I said to him, as long as we're talking about Epstein, I'd really like to talk about this non profit organization that I started, Epstein Justice. And then about 10 minutes later I get a text, Nick, we're going in another direction. So I have got that other direction text a few times and unfortunately I'm just. It. I'm used to it. But it just shows you how out of balance the judiciary and the media are. The media should be at least a watchdog over the judiciary, but we're not seeing that at all in the Epstein case.

[David Lee Corbo]

You actually see not only them not willing to engage with the story, but there's also like an element of damage control. Right. So I'd be eager to know your thoughts, Nick, on the Epstein Island Netflix documentary. That from my point of view, seemed like damage control. It seemed like an effort to absolve to whatever degree they could, Maxwell and her role in it. It almost painted her as a victim, sort of. And it painted Epstein as a mastermind who was acting solo, which obviously is not the case. What did you think about that documentary?

[Nick Bryant]

I thought it was a horrible documentary. And it did not at all edify us about things that we'd already known. And one thing that it could have gotten across, which it didn't, is human traffickers, human sex traffickers, and just human traffickers in general. They're vicious people. Vicious. Whether they've got a mansion on fifth Avenue or they're living in a trailer park and outside of Tallahassee, Florida, they are vicious, vicious people. And I've gotten to know some of the Epstein victims and I've listened to what they have gone through, and it's been unbelievably brutal. And that's another thing where the media has really, really just been bankrupt is these girls went through hell and no one in the media has really conveyed that at all.

[Top Lobster]

Do you think there is some complicit, some complicity tied to the media? Or is this. Are they just running cover for somebody else?

[Nick Bryant]

It's hard to say. I mean, six corporations control 90% of the media. Are those that people that sit atop those six corporations, are they compromised or are their underlings compromised? That's entirely possible. In my investigations of sexual blackmail, various people in the media have come up been primarily focused on politicians, but various people in the media have come up because what's really troubling is the media has just basically given us salacious dirt. They're digging up this thing about Bill Gates or they're digging up this thing about this guy. But. But we know who the perps are and we know who the. Who the Epstein pimps are. The New York Times published an article that named six Epstein pimps other than Maxwell. There was Sarah Kellen, Leslie Groff, Adriana Ross, Nadia Marcinkova, and Haley Robson. Helly Robson didn't know about the broader network of Epstein, but the other four did. And if we, we could, we could start getting justice tomorrow. We know that those women traffic children and that. And that's a heavy sentence. And in the federal judiciary, trafficking children is 15 to life. So if they were indicted on multiple kinds of child trafficking, which they absolutely should be and could be, they would start rolling over on the perps. It's really that simple. And we could, we could start this process tomorrow. We could start getting people indicted tomorrow if we wanted to. We have, we have the information.

[David Lee Corbo]

Part of that documentary, that Netflix documentary. What I thought they missed the mark on so badly was sort of the who is the victim in this situation? And what they focused on were girls that were like, you know, 16, 17 years old. And many people who are familiar with the Epstein case are suspecting that it goes into a much darker place than that. But, you know, that was part of what Netflix was willing to show you is like something horrifying, but something that certainly minimizes or reduces the situation there with that, with that blackmail ring in your investigations. Nick, what have you found? Is it just 15, 16, 17 year old girls or does it go to the place where I suppose the terminology would be. Conspiracy theorists think that it goes. And myself included, the media and the.

[Nick Bryant]

Government have settled on 14. It's been reported that they're as young as 11 or 12 in an Australian newspaper. But because I've got a connection to the International Society for the Study of Trauma Dissociation, a number of. And a number of those therapists know that. I know that. Excuse me. Know that I've been working on Epstein. Let me. So I've been approached by two therapists and one of them is a very eminent psychologist. A lot of people would. A lot of people in the field of psychology would know her name. And she believes that she's been constantly in an Epstein victim that was trafficked when she was under 10. And there's another therapist I know who also believes, and these are very competent therapists who also believe that she is counseling a client or patient that was trafficked when she was under 10 years old. And we have this information that 14 was supposedly the demarcation of the Epstein network. But with the Franklin scandal, the. The pimps were. Well, at least one of the pimps was into pubescent boys. But if you wanted a seven year old or an eight year old, I mean these guys are psychopaths. I mean do you think Jeffrey Epstein has to worry about his conscience or Ghislaine Maxwell has to worry about her conscience? If you wanted a seven year old or an eight year old, Lawrence King would provide. He was one of the pimps in the Franklincy. He would provide you with a 7 year old or an 8 year old. And I do believe these therapists, these therapists have enough information from their clients to believe that they had been trafficked by Epstein when they were under 10 years old.

[Top Lobster]

Fucking terrible man. Another question, I guess to, to what end do you think the trafficking? Why. Why were they doing this? Is it just to. To get blackmail in your opinion? Or is there more? Why like we look at, you know, conspiracy theorists look at the island and I look at the temple on the island and a lot of this like weird symbology and I start to, you know, we start to think and our brains start going weird places. But what do you, what do you think in your actual studies?

[Nick Bryant]

Well, I mean you've got that. Excuse me, you've got the temple with a moloch there, which is the, the God of sacrificing children. And. But I'm not. I try not to make those leaps. But there. There was an owl right there on the temple. And Moloch was an owl. But for me, I just go where there's proof. I mean, I don't have proof that that's Malik. I mean, it very well could be Malik. And actually, I know some people that are very esteemed that. That believe it was Malik, but we don't. We don't know for sure. And I've looked very deeply into Epstein. I've been looking for occult symbolism or occult practice, practicing and practitioners. And I haven't seen that yet. And I've delved very deeply into Epstein. And I. I have not come across the occult there is.

[David Lee Corbo]

So at the height of the Epstein situation, right before COVID the sentiments Epstein didn't kill himself became incredibly viral. And it was a kind of a fascinating moment because something that was obviously purposely obscured for a long time, a lot of people stood in the way of this story developing. I'm sure there's a lot of major players on the world stage who had a vested interest in it not coming to light. And nevertheless, 2019, we were all saying Epstein didn't kill himself. Shirts and hats were made. It was the meme that just kept giving. It wouldn't stop. And at the same time, there were those people who were theorizing that he actually didn't kill himself, that he. He actually wasn't dead at all. And in fact, the person that was on the autopsy table had somehow discernibly different ears than him. But that's as far as I'm really aware of it. I wonder, Nick, in your investigation, have you come across anything that would at least lend itself to you having sympathy for those who say, suspect that he actually is not dead?

[Top Lobster]

You know, to. To rejoinder that, I think something came out recently with Argentinian government talking about Hitler. Some classified documents. I haven't read them, but I've perused what people said about them. And it seems like Hitler is one of the dudes that kind of lived out the rest of his days there. I got. I have to do some more research on it to make sure that it's legitimate. But this is what this is word on the street. So take. Take it however you you'd like.

[Nick Bryant]

I try not to get bogged down on whether or not Epstein killed himself or whether or not he's dead. In that particular prison, it's very, very difficult to commit suicide, for sure. I've known two people that have been in that prison. And then there were a number of anomalies that night. Like Epstein's cellmate getting taken out and the guards, one of the guards not being the guards or they were sleeping and then the video was. Wasn't working. So there's a lot of problems there. But I don't want to focus on that. I want to focus on the fact that we need justice for Epstein victims because we can just go around and around and around about whether or not Epstein killed himself and whether or not he's alive. But the thing at hand is we have girls that have been trafficked for 25 years that are very damaged and they need justice. And that's, to me, the most important thing. So I kind of look at the Epstein's death and, and all the speculation is it's kind of a red herring.

[David Lee Corbo]

So here in 2025, we have this new administration shift and people are. By people, I mean the public, the general public is pretty accepting of the idea that there are large scale sexual black male operations and that Epstein was running one, maybe even P. Diddy was part of another one. It seems to be common that they're taking place in the Virgin Islands. But this isn't something that the general public would recoil to anymore. This is something that I think a lot of people accept. And with this new administration coming in, certainly there are hopes, right? We just went through phase one of the Epstein release. But to your point, Nick, we have enough to start nailing these people. And the question becomes, why do you have hope? Well, I mean, you have to have hope, but I mean, serious expectations of this new administration to address this in any meaningful way. How do you, how does this pass through your filter when you see this phase one and potentially phase two whenever that happens?

[Nick Bryant]

Well, Trump had four years to get to the bottom of Epstein. Previously, his Attorney General was William Barr. And the Franklin Network that I wrote about was covered up by William Barr when he was Bush the one's Attorney General. And then he becomes Attorney General for Trump. And he certainly covers up the Epstein network as the Attorney General there. When I think of the overlap, and I'm talking about Barr now, but There was a U.S. attorney named Damian Williams, and he was the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Manhattan, which is the most powerful federal law enforcement officer in, in. In New York. And he was the guy that oversaw Maxwell's trial. And Maxwell's trial was very carefully choreographed to make sure that the only women that were called to the stand were women that had been molested by just Epstein and Maxwell. So they didn't know about any of the other perpetrators. And he was also the U.S. attorney that oversaw the Diddy grand jury.

[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Nick Bryant]

There'S a number of civil lawsuits against Diddy right Now, at least 20 for minors. And he didn't indict Diddy on a single count of child trafficking. It's very obvious that he was there not only to do damage control on Maxwell, but also do damage control on.

[David Lee Corbo]

And so it almost feels like then this phase one thing that they're doing is, is an appeasement of some sort to kind of maybe quell the conversation to a degree or satisfy some of the people so that they think that this administration is going to address it. But to your point, he had four years. You know what is interesting? During the first administration, the first Trump administration, there were a, a series of child trafficking bus that were taking place and they were at a pretty large scale. I forget the numbers, but it wasn't, you know, it wasn't an isolated incident. These were large groups of victims that were recovered and rescued and pretty substantial rings in, in the sense of how many people were involved in this organized ring of human trafficking. And the media I felt was under reporting on them at the time and because if you wanted to, you can sensationalize those moments, you can conjoin them all and say, look what the Trump administration is doing. He's targeting and saving these children. Certainly it's good for PR and good for the children. But did you get the sense during that first administration that things were moving in such a direction or did you even see in through your lens that the administration was focused on that sort of a thing?

[Nick Bryant]

I think that these big bus that people talk about are somewhat apocryphal. I, I mean there were people that were busted for child trafficking well during Trump's first term, but it was these people, the, like the QAnon people, they, they talk about Trump saving all the children. And I think that there was about the same number of child trafficking busts during Trump's administration that there were from the previous administration and also from the Biden administration. I don't really think that there's that much of a difference.

[David Lee Corbo]

I would agree that the QAnon narrative is particularly what made me focus on those things. And so in that way, if it's on your mind, then you're looking for it. And of course, if you're investigating those circles, then they are going to be bringing those articles to the surface to sort of bolster. But it is fascinating because he has become sort of the savior figure in that movement, the QAnon movement. And it's all about this Epstein human trafficking ring. So there is some big expectation.

[Nick Bryant]

Well, actually, but they were blaming the Democrats, the qanons were blaming the Democrats for sacrifice. Hillary Clinton was sacrificing this kid and all that, when it was really the progenitors of QAnon were too cynical individuals in Japan. And now that we know that, what it, it really demonstrates that. And, and for some reason people just wanted to believe it and they, they took it and they ran with it. And that is the problem when you get into this area is people want to believe things that they don't have any proof for and they just want to take the ball and run with it. But the thing is, we don't need to speculate like that because we have lots of evidence that we can indict Epstein perps with. So speculation like that is actually it damages people like me that have approached and, and anti trafficking organizations that are doing the best that they can because there, there was a magazine article published in the Atlantic about, it was called the Great Child Trafficking Hoax or something. It was like. And they looked at Tim Ballard, the Atlantic writer looked at Tim Ballard, who was ostensibly saving children, but he's a charlatan and, and a hypocrite. The Department of Health and Human Services estimates that there's between 175,000 and 240,000 women and children that are sexually trafficked in the United States every year. So that's a huge problem. And the Centers for Disease Control has said that approximately 50 million Americans have been molested as minors. So we have a huge problem on our hands. We don't need speculation about Hillary Clinton sacrificing children. I mean, we've got a huge problem that is a real problem that we have to deal with. And by the way, I'm not a Republican and I'm not a Democrat. Once I started getting into this realm, I kind of relinquished any kind of. I, I relinquished Any kind of, what's the word I want to say?

[David Lee Corbo]

Political.

[Top Lobster]

Political ideology.

[Nick Bryant]

Well, yeah, yeah, I really like it. Yeah, we could go with that. I, I, when you get old, like when your brain freezes a little bit.

[David Lee Corbo]

Sometimes, it's, it's already happening to me, so I don't know what my excuse is. So.

[Nick Bryant]

But when you get into, when you got into blackmail. So I got to one of the blackmail photographs, and it was when I was first trying to wrap my head around this story. And he was an unctuous individual, but I got a lot of information from him. And he said, when you're compromised, it's like you're on a yacht. And it's a beautiful yacht and it's a beautiful day, and you can have anything that you want on this yacht, but if you decide to get off the yacht, the people on the yacht are going to make sure that you drown. So once you're compromised, either you're going to be have a good time on the yacht or you're going to drown. And that's. Once someone is in that position, it's really, there's nothing to contemplate.

[David Lee Corbo]

How, how damning should we be interpreting the flight logs? Like, so, so I went through the flight logs recently, and, you know, I'm not somebody who's ever worked in airspace at all, so it's almost a little bit confusing. But, and, and there's a lot of, almost mundanity to it if you're, if you're going through it. And I don't know what I'm looking for, so I'm looking for, you know, maybe last names, first initials that seem familiar or something like that. And we get things like the idea that Bill Clinton was one of the most prolific attendees on the Lolita Express. But is, is it enough to be on that plane to associate you with this entire situation?

[Nick Bryant]

There were a lot of perps on that plane, and I'm sure that there were some innocent people on that plane. It all depends upon what the milieu was or what the venue was. There was a woman that I know who actually, when Clinton was in South Africa with Epstein, talking about how the Clinton foundation could, was this wonderful thing. And, and Epstein met a young woman, she was like 20 years old. And Epstein said to her, I can make you a model. Come, you should come back to New York, and I've got an apartment you can stay in. And the woman thought, well, since Epstein was with Clinton, this has to be on the up and up. So she flew to New York City and Epstein had that apartment building on 66th Street. And as she was unpacking, Sarah Kellen, one of the pimps who I've previously named, said to her, you don't have to unpack. We're going to the island. And we've got plenty of clothes that you can wear on the island. So here's this young woman who, who's fragile, who's gone to New York City and thinks that she's going to become a model. And because Jeff Epstein was with Bill Clinton, thinks that it's on the up and up. And then when she's 30,000 miles up, Epstein has one of the girls perform fellatio on him. So what is she to do? I mean, she's got no way out and she's gonna go to an island. I mean, so there's a lot of that in the Epstein case where Epstein was cavorting with very well known people and it would. And because they were so well known and somewhat respected, I guess Bill Clinton, well, I don't know if he's somewhat respected, but anyway, he was the President of the United States of America.

[David Lee Corbo]

He plays the saxophone really well, so.

[Nick Bryant]

And yeah, he's a good saxophone player too. So it's difficult to know. I mean, I can look at the flight logs and I know that there's perpetrators on those flight logs. I can look at the black book and I know that there's perpetrators on the black book. Virginia Giuffre, who's had some difficulties lately, sued Ghislaine Maxwell for defamation of character. And she sued Giuffre back and she named a number of the people that had molested her. And they're all in the black book, or most of them are in the black book. We have corroboration. And the Epstein Victims Compensation Fund or Epstein Victims Compensation Program is really bad news. Really bad news. It's overseen by David Boyes, super lawyer David Boies, who brought in Stan Pottinger, who's a very unctuous character. He was an assistant attorney general that was, I call him the Forrest Gump of COVID ups. If you needed a cover up, call on Stan Poncher. And then he was eventually busted for trying to sell arms to Iran. And Rudolph Giuliani was the prosecutor. And Rudolph Giuliani lost the tapes that incriminated him. So Stan just skipped away. And so that's the person that David Boies brought in to help litigate these cases. And that Epstein Victims Compensation Program, what that's about is no depositions, no discovery. When women get A settlement from that program. That's it. They sign an NDA and they can't go after any of their other perpetrators. And that's really horrible because that's how victims heal is by, by talking about it.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right.

[Nick Bryant]

And that shows that the COVID up is still going on, but it's not going on with the government. That's going on with these attorneys.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, speaking of COVID ups, one of the big cover ups that became associated with this entire story, and I wonder if you've looked into this at all. I know that they can be separated and so you may have not, but during the time when the Anthony Weiner laptop was gripping the nation and we, we never found out what was in those things. But there was a chief of police who in New York City was giving a, a speech on the findings, more or less, and he was stressing how harrowing the footage was and that officers had to watch it in shifts and some of them even threw up. It was too much for one individual to take on and so they had to split it up. And then nine of those 12 officers went on to die, commit suicide in I don't know what sort of a time span. I was actually just watching the article this morning. Somebody dropped it in. But 9 of 12 cops commit suicide after handling sexting Congressman Anthony Wieners, then Huma Amidan's wife. I don't know what that's laptop and notorious Clinton emails. And so, you know, whatever was on there, the rumors were that it was, you know, underage sex videos. But obviously worse than that, if, if they couldn't watch it in anything but shifts and they were throwing up and then the, the story just becomes that much richer when they all begin committing suicide. Do you think that this interplays with the Epstein situation? Have you looked into that event at all?

[Nick Bryant]

I do not know. But I will say this. When the FBI drilled Epstein safe, according to the New York Times, they found hundreds, if not thousands of pictures of child. It's. It's not called child pornography anymore. It's called child rape material. There were a bunch of discs and a bunch of hard drives that were, that were filled with child pornography or child rape material. And what's really troubling to me is that I'm willing to bet that the federal government did not go to any of those victims or try to find any of those victims. When someone is used for child rape material, that's unbelievably devastating and can lead to dissociative identity disorder or often leads to dissociative Identity disorder. And that's an area that, where the FBI and the Department of Justice have let down all kinds of victims again. I mean, if the New York Times is saying thousands, possibly thousands of images of child rape material, the government should go out and find those young women or girls at this point and get them help. And I don't even think that's happening. When Epstein killed himself, the government said that the case was closed. And so I foia I didn't FOIA for the discs, but I foed for the reports on the discs. And I was given a explanation that the investigation is ongoing. So I sent an email and I showed all the major media that showed that, that said the Department of Justice had closed the case. But that was much ado about nothing for me because there was no way that I was going to get reports on any of those CDs and any of those disks and hard drives. But that just shows you it is.

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[Nick Bryant]

Again, how unlawful the government has been in this area is they're not going after perpetrators. They should at least, at least go after these young women now who are used for child rape material. It's, it, it's beyond abhorrent.

[Top Lobster]

And Owens, I mean, you know, the government, the CIA specifically has a tendency to create programs that study disassociative identity disorder in specifically children. And that's been already been declassified since, you know, at least 1953. They've been doing these things. So I wouldn't be surprised if they followed up on some of these, some of these victims. It's like that's just like even darker than I would like to even explore.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, we're, we're coming up on. I know we only have Nick for an hour and you know, sometimes I think in this conversation of Epstein, we often focus on like these, these details that get rehashed and are highly speculative. But I'd like to take the last few minutes of this if we could Nick to Talk about these victims who are out there, who are, who are speaking up, who are they, what are they saying, and, and how do people go about supporting them? Because right now, those are the most important voices when it comes to this topic. And many of us are just, you know, on online forums having these conversations and speculating. Meanwhile, there are victims who are out, who are speaking. And so who are these, these women? And, and how do people find them and support them and hear their work?

[Nick Bryant]

225 women have applied for a compensation from the Epstein victims compensation program, and 150 have been awarded judgments. Eight have declined because they didn't want to sign the NDA.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's. Can I just say, that's super nefarious, by the way. Too totally nefarious to offer up some sort of a, an organization that's going to fund these women for the, the crap that they've been through. But then on the other end of it to say, hey, if you take this money, by the way, you'd better keep your mouth shut. I mean, that is, if that doesn't.

[Top Lobster]

Wrong of me to ask how much. Like.

[Nick Bryant]

That'S the other thing. We don't know the criteria for the settlements. And the settlements have been, I think, anywhere from six figures and up. And we don't know why some of the victims are getting more than, than others for a settlement. It's really bad. That whole Epstein victims compensation program is really, really just utterly disgusting. And you've got 142 of the victims who have signed the NDA, but then you've got a bunch of them that are very, very frightened.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Nick Bryant]

If you're a victim and you've been molested by someone very, very powerful, you're terrified of, of coming forward. That's what made some of these women so incredibly. It just showed the strength of the human will that they can imagine.

[David Lee Corbo]

For some of these women, they're sharing their story and they're taking settlements knowing in some cases that the individuals who abuse them are still out there. And, and if, if it goes as deep as people think it does. Right. To high level politicians and even media personalities and folks in Hollywood. I don't even want to think about what it must be like to share your story, to take a settlement for them to tell you to keep your mouth shut and then to see maybe your abuser on television still. What, what a harrowing thought.

[Nick Bryant]

It is harrowing. And that's why I started Epstein justice, because we do need justice for Epstein trafficked these girls for 25 years. And we Need. We need justice for them.

[David Lee Corbo]

So what are you trying to do?

[Nick Bryant]

We don't need them to sign an NDA. That's get some money. We need them to basically tell us who their perpetrators were and then arrest them. And as I said earlier, we've got four of the Epstein pimps that the New York Times has written an article about demonstrating that they were the Epstein pimps and no one's indicted them. And as I said earlier, if you really want to get to the bottom of the Epstein case, indict them tomorrow. Once you indict them, then it's kind of like the Mafia where with those RICO prosecutions, small time crooks would be indicted and they'd be looking at a hundred years in prison or whatever and they'd roll over on their, on their overseers. Happens all the time. They're in the witness protection program now. And that's exactly what would happen in the Epstein case is you take these four Epstein pimps and indict them on multiple counts of child trafficking where they're looking at 10 lifetimes. They'll. They'll turn over in a nanosecond. They'll turn over on the, on the, the perps.

[Top Lobster]

Nick, I have. It's just like this is a crazy question and I'd like for you to speculate as to why, but why do you think this happened? I don't know if you were, if you're familiar or clued in when just a couple like right wing. This is like the new, new media form of, of X, right? These guys. So DC Drano, this is the girl behind him is Libs of Tick Tock. And there's like Scott Pressler and Mike Cernovich were, they were in the White House seemingly for another reason. And then they're given these Epstein file drops which contained. But the White House paraded them out there and then had cameras set up. It was, it was almost like a setup like to take. Have these guys do this photo op and then for it to be nothing. And it's like we're constantly getting this tease of like we're going to tell you, we're going to tell you. And then they do this thing that's almost like a. Not almost. It is a slap in the face to the entire American public, to the people who have been abused by Epstein, to, to everybody. Why do you think they do these things? Because I cannot make heads or tails of it.

[Nick Bryant]

Pam Bondi said on national television that, that she was going to release the Epstein files or Epstein list or whatever. You want to call it. And they released a nothing sandwich. So either Pam Bondi was lying to us, or she just didn't read the documents that were on her desk because she said they were on her desk. And I'm a charitable person, so I'll just chalk it up to incompetence. But that whole thing was a fiasco. But what it showed, and this is very, very powerful what it showed is how much outrage there was on the left and on the right. Both were outraged. And I think that that's probably the only thing the left and right can agree on at this point, is that children shouldn't be molested with impunity.

[Top Lobster]

The crazy part is, you're right, but I'm trying to make sense of why even do it. You could let this thing die. You don't have to have this photo op and. And drag these people down with you or just create this spectacle. It's almost like somebody within the administration wants to continue to stoke the flames of this. It's like, are they trying to get this out or are they just trying.

[David Lee Corbo]

They're not. If they're not trying to get it out, it almost feels like they're rolling out. Because if that's not your goal, then phase one of however many phases, is this going to be a big sort of smudge campaign where they're gonna convolute and obscure and give an official narrative and say, you know, some of the stuff that they found and then close the case again? I just don't understand why even say phase one and then insinuate that there's multiple phases.

[Nick Bryant]

They might have underestimated the moral barometer of Americans. I mean, that's the only thing that I can. It was so disingenuous and such a debacle that I think that there was a huge miscalculation by Pam Body and whoever was part of ostensibly releasing the Epstein bottles.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, Nick, I want to respect your time. We're coming up on the hour Mark here. Is there anything that you'd like to impart as far as final thoughts?

[Nick Bryant]

Well, it's great to be on your show, and I enjoyed myself, but I would really, really want your viewers, your audience, to go to epsteinjustice.com and sign up and be part of the movement. We can get justice, and we cannot have a government that aids and abets child trafficking. We just. Our government does a lot of. Can do a lot of nefarious things, but aiding and embedding child trafficking here it is right in our face that the government is aiding embedding child trafficking. We, as Americans, we really need to do something about that. We know that something is seriously wrong with our government, and this is a major indication that, that it is.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, justice for the victims of Epstein and operations like Epstein's is much more appealing than settlements and NDAs. And so I do hope that our audience goes over and, and supports that. Certainly a worthy cause.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, it, it also, I mean, it would behoove these people to get justice now in a form that is. I'm, I'm. I'm kind of understanding the justice that you're talking about, like bringing these people to jail. But the longer they kick this down the road, and the more people stew on it, the angrier they get. They're not going to be calling for just jail time. It's going to. This could get really messy or could just go away completely. I don't know.

[David Lee Corbo]

Sometimes I worry about our attention span here in the West. It has been diminished to the extent that we can't focus on a story for more than, like, a couple of days before the next one comes in. But people aren't going to forget this. People haven't forgotten this. We didn't forget it through Covid. Here we are five years after the fact, and we're still talking about it, and we're still expecting results and we're still pushing the bar. And so, yeah, I would say you're right. Top. The longer they let this go, the worse it's going to get. And so it'd be nice to see something soon. But what you've developed there, Nick, in an effort to make something happen for these people, some form of justice is, is an admirable one. And so, you know, thank you for that and thank you for your time.

[Nick Bryant]

We keep trying. And I believe that Americans can do the right thing in this situation and they can force the government to do the right thing. I, I really do believe that. And as I said earlier with the Bonnie debacle, it really shows that people are very, very interested in this. Although the media has done its best to cover this up, it just can't help itself from pumping out salacious dirt, which keeps people thinking about Epstein.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right. Well, one more time, Nick. Where can people find your. Your books as well?

[Nick Bryant]

You can go to my website. Nick Bryant, NYC.com and there you go. You can buy my books, you can read my blog, you can check out some of my podcasts.

[David Lee Corbo]

Seems like you've had a career of being a thorn in the side of political deviants in very many ways. So thank you, Nick, for, for the work that you've done and thank you for sharing this with our audience.

[Nick Bryant]

Guys, thanks so much for having me on your show.

[David Lee Corbo]

Is that it?

[Top Lobster]

That. That's it, man. Nick, we're gonna pray for you. Hopefully you stay safe. You're doing. Doing some dangerous work out there. All right, guys, thank you for joining us again. And until next time, don't forget to obey, submit, and comply. We'll see you later.

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