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Nephilim Death Squad
155: Microdosing w/ Adam Schell
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In this episode of Nephilim Death Squad, hosts David Lee Corbo and Top Lobster discuss the profound effects of microdosing psilocybin, the nature of spiritual encounters, and personal experiences with guest Adam Shell, founder of Brain Supreme. The...
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David Lee Corbo
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Top Lobster
Productions.
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Adam Schell
We are being hypnotized by people like this. News readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers. We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people. The chasm between what we're told is going on and what is really going.
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Top Lobster
On is absolutely enormous.
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Adam Schell
Oh yeah, dude, there's some Nephilim.
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David Lee Corbo
It's like we all know what's going down but no one's saying what happened to the home of the braveness now when no one's talking about how they made us finally slaves and everybody's just walking around heading the clouds and won't awaken to a dead in the grave. But then it's too late. We need to be ready to raise up.
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Top Lobster
Welcome to the end of day.
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Adam Schell
Everybody is slaves.
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David Lee Corbo
Only some are aware that the government releasing poison in the air. Welcome back ladies and gentlemen to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad. I am David Lee Corbo, AKA the Raven that is top lobster, the father of disinformation. Before we get into today's guest, I would like to remind all of our live viewers that this is a 30 minute preview only. Sometime around the 30 minute mark we'll be going live exclusively to patreon.com backslash Nephilim Death Squad where you can continue enjoying an ad free experience, engaging with the live chat and also gaining early access to the episode. And you can do it for free. That's right guys, sign up for a seven day free trial. Try to absorb as much content as you can and then kick rocks before the billing cycle kicks in. But I bet you you're gonna want to stay.
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Top Lobster
That's right. Honestly, the number you're gonna wanna, they.
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David Lee Corbo
Do want to stay.
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Top Lobster
You're gonna want to be be on this thing because we have, we're in the final stages of. Well, we're in the end St. Bohemian Grove. So our Patreon members will get first dibs at the tickets there. So, so make sure you're there, make sure you're joining.
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David Lee Corbo
You guys know we're, it's, we're looking at June I believe it's, what is it? 20th and 21st. And so far we're gonna have Shane Cashman and we have secured Sam Tripoli. So it's going to be a two day event. We're going to keep some of our performers a little bit of a secret until later on. But like Top said, if you guys are going to want tickets to that event, the very first people who are going to get dibs on those tickets are the members over@patreon.com backslash Nephilim Death Squad. So many reasons to go and hang out over there.
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Top Lobster
Let's get into the guest, David.
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David Lee Corbo
Yes, let's get into the guest. Joining us today is Adam Schell. Adam, thank you for joining us. For the audience who may not be familiar with you, what is it that you do and where can people find your work?
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Adam Schell
I own a company called Brain Supreme. It's brainsupreme Co. And we make premium life optimizing psilocybin microdosing supplements. So we are, I have no problem. And I kind of like the whole shroomy, heroic, recreational. But what we're really about is taking premium psilocybin, blending it into synergistic blends for neurocognition, increased brain performance, emotional well being, athletic performance, and then our extra strength formula. So we're essentially a premium micro dosing supplements.
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Top Lobster
Excellent. I love, I love this subject because this is a topic that, well, mushrooms in general are a topic that we talk about on the show often, but I have never done because, well, you know, when you're, when you're like heroic dosing mushrooms, I feel like some wacky stuff goes on. So I'm hesitant to peel that veil. But my cousin and a bunch of other people have had like great success with micro dosing. So my cousin, who he was in the real estate field, he's actually been on the show a long time ago as a episode with cousin Dave. And his, yeah, his field is like super stressful to the point where he was like losing his mind. And I kind of sat him down. I was like, listen, you've got like, you know, he's in, he's well into seven figures. And I'm like, what are you doing this for? You're gonna die young. And he got away from it, but he couldn't, he couldn't escape this anxiety. And he called me one day, he was like, hey, I'm, you know, micro dosing. He's actually, I think he might be growing himself. I'm not sure what he's doing. So don't, you know, don't say anything. But he's, he's doing this and he's seen like tremendous benefits from it like his, his mental, his mental clarity is a lot better. His focus is a lot better. He's like, he's an artist at heart and now he's actually getting back into that and tapping into his creative side. So it's, it's created this little transfer. I'm seeing him turn a corner from somebody who is just, I mean, borderline. Probably should have been institutionalized, but like by the stress of his job now, he's like really easing off any. And he credits this, you know, the micro dosing to some of his success there.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah. I want to say before we really get into it, that a lot of people on this show, they'll hear us caution people against psychedelics for one reason or another. It's mostly because of the spiritual implications. And yeah, some people are in a different place spiritually than other people. But what I do want to say right off the bat is that some of the medical benefits of psilocybin or other, other psychedelics in regards to treating like PTSD and you know, depression and things like that, they bode better to me than the medical industry does. You know, as far as like the pharmaceutical industry and their inability to fix a thing, they just maintain a thing, you know, for your entire life. They keep you on the hook, they keep you coming in for doctor's visits, they keep finding different ways to intervene and charging your insurance. So I do look at psilocybin in particular as, as something that I recognize does have pretty significant health benefits. Psychological health benefits.
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Adam Schell
Yeah, so, so sorry, there's a lot to unpack there, I think. Lobster top for you. And also, Raven, I want to explain philosophically, like where I'm at as a human being and as the founder of the company. So people have confidence because when you open up the spirit realm, there's a lot of things that can happen. There's magnificent things that can happen. It can, it can deepen your connection to God, to the Heavenly Father and divine consciousness. It can allow you to see cosmological insights, mythological insights, personal revelations, and so forth. So I am. I wake up at 4am and every day I pray and meditate and I pray over my product and I pray over our mushroom grow and I pray over the combination of ingredients. I pray, I ask that my prayers go through my email list and so that every client and customer who's using Brain supreme is blessed and is using it in the highest and the best of ways. Because I'm very aware of, of spiritual materialism and the dangers of spiritual materialism. And when you're using these things and you're caught up in the ego, how it can kind of take you in that direction. I'm also very aware of the CIA and, and the kind of darker elements of our world that are organizing and running things. How they've used psychedelics and tried to use psychedelics. Conversely, they don't have as much success with mushrooms. Mushrooms really tend to push you in the way of the divide. So the thing that I kind of want to assure your listeners is that they're my people. Like, I just found out about your show about a month ago when I found out about it. But these are the kind of shows that I like and that I listen to. I've become friends with Sam Tripoli. The guys on his show, they all use Brain Supreme.
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David Lee Corbo
Now.
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Adam Schell
Sam doesn't. Sam, I think, is still weary of mushrooms from his past experiences. Yeah, so I. I relate and I identify and I work every day. And my mission is to fully access my divine consciousness and just to fulfill that and to be a beacon of light and that my product. I want to be a beacon of light onto the world. So like that's the consciousness. And there's only three of us in the company. We're a very small company and we're all spiritually aligned in our mission and what we're trying to do. We're not a stony Schumer kind of brand. Although I like, I don't have problems that we're really about life optimization, physical emotional well being and connection to your higher self so that you do good in the world and you live an authentic life. So we're of the same ilk and of the same people.
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Top Lobster
Adam, Adam, you got to put together, you got to get some funds together and get a study going for. Because I realize this is your company now. What you've done to xg Xavier Guerrero. I mean, yeah, borderline retarded before the enlightened intellectual. Enlightened intellectual. I mean, the questions he's asked since. Yeah, that comes up often on the show. Right.
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David Lee Corbo
They're like Adam, Adam has. Has made tinfoil hat market.
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Top Lobster
Yeah. 15% better.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah. Because now he's asking these questions.
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Adam Schell
Yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
I want to talk a little bit, Brian, about this micro dose dosing versus macro dosing, I guess would be the opposite of it. And my experience with mushrooms is very limited. I have had.
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Top Lobster
Oh, Dave, before I lose that. Can you put a pin in that? Because he said something about the CIA and this I was just reading last night in between my editing and all this other crap that we're doing for the show. I'm reading the books the Sacred Mushroom by Andreesa Puharich, which is a guy that we're fascinated with, alongside his book Beyond Telepathy. But I decided to go into the Sacred Mushroom first because we sort of understand what that second book is about. And to your point, it seems a little weak in things that I've heard, like, in comparison to other works that I've heard. And there's a woman that's I for. She wrote a book about mushrooms as well. And it seems like his CIA ties and his, his exploration into the mushroom kind of seems stunted in a way where he's like, looked into. He's like, this is certainly a pathway, but he didn't find what he wanted. And the book is about half the length as half the length of the telepathy book. And there's just not as much information as other people have gleamed from because it feels like he was after a little bit something that's a little bit more nefarious.
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David Lee Corbo
And that is why they kind of settled on lsd, it seems.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, possibly. It just feels that way. Like, as I'm reading it, I'm like a little bit more than halfway through, I'm like, he found something, but he wasn't able to really untie this knot and use it the way he wanted to. That's just how I feel about it. Do you?
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Adam Schell
Well, I haven't, I haven't read that book. I know about him as well. But look, here's the thing with. Here's the thing with mushrooms. You can listen to like a two hour Huberman podcast or you can listen the next 45 seconds. Mushroom science basically breaks down to like this at the macro and microdosing level is that psilocybin moves the brain in a beneficial direction, whether you're cognizant of it or not. And if you're cognizant of it, it can move the brain in a beneficial direction even faster, and we don't really know why. And that's it. Like, so in terms of the macro experience and the micro experience, overwhelmingly it moves your brain and your life in a beneficial direction. There are some outlier experiences there on the macro, which we can kind of get into. I'm much more the micro expert, but we can kind of get into. And I think it helps people understand microdosing if we kind of first explain the, the range and talk about the macrodose and then get into the microdose. Sure. So the historic, like tripping balls, heroic Dose, therapeutic dose, journeying work. Historically that was done with five grams. Five grams. Five grams equals 5,000 milligrams. Okay. Mushrooms are grown stronger these days and I'd recommend, if anybody's going to be experimenting there, especially on their own, they'd probably be around 3.5 grams or 3,500 milligrams. That's the heroic dose.
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Top Lobster
Microdosing question. Stem, end, cap. Because I was, I was given mushrooms.
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Adam Schell
Yeah, no, you do stem and cap stem account. They both contain psilocybin. And, you know, there's all different theories that the cap is more the head and the stem is more the body. But I don't, I don't know. You know, I don't know. And when you get into that realm, there's like so much of the placebo effect, that desired outcome and, and, you know, what you're projecting onto it and so forth.
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David Lee Corbo
So I imagine it kind of also depends on the, the user. Right. I mean, as far as, like, you know, they have all these different strains of marijuana now and they're supposed to do X, Y and Z, but for different folks, it's different strokes. You know, people smoke one thing and maybe become very productive and clean their house and then people smoke the same thing and then they get very hungry. So it's like, you know, who knows?
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Adam Schell
Yeah, well, there's some truth to that as you move from the Sativa to the Indica sides.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
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Adam Schell
Being a little more psychoactive and uplifting and Indica being a little more sedative, but you have an endocannabinoid system with all these receptors in your body. And in the same way psilocybin is based on your own neurological needs, it's not based on body weight. So let's say 3500mg is today's average macro dose heroic dose. Microdosing happens at about the sub 10% level of that. So a microdose is 100 to about 400 milligrams, usually speaking. And what you're going for with microdosing is perceptible, but non intoxicating, non hallucinatory. So it's essentially like a slightly expensive supplement that you should notice the benefit 5, 10, 15, 20% kind of in your life. You know, I equate it to. I'm very into fitness and health and I spend a lot of money on supplements and I've never taken, I take the best vitamin C in the world, but I've never been like, oh my God, that vitamin C. Like, I really felt it. But you sprinkle a little, you sprinkle a little psilocybin in with your vitamin C and you're like, oh wow, I know what I'm paying for now. Like I'm like, like Xavier, like XG, like I'm 5%, I'm 10% sharper, I'm 15% sharper. And then I have my crowd, my veterans, PTSD, major depressive, depressive disorder, combat trauma and so forth. They'll sometimes come back to me. They're 50, 60, 70% better. Like they've stopped having suicide ideation, night terrors, PTSD, like real diminishment in anxiety and increased in overall well being. But so just to kind of understand, like a microdose is not going to get you shroomy or high or it's not going to be a psychedelic psychoactive for you. It will tune you up. And turn your frontal lobe on a little bit so you'll feel a little crisper and a little sharper as you go about your day. You'll have increased patience. Very often your relationships often improve. You get less attached to your emotions. I very much often hear about Buddhists, this witness consciousness. Like I'm not my thought, I'm the witness to my thought. I'm not my body, I'm the witness to my body. So a little more kind of the distance and objectivity from the intensity of your reactions, you know, basically emotional and physical well being is kind of what, what we get. I also feel that in this day and age, especially with like your kind of listeners of which I'm in the group, like it's spiritual sustenance for this bizarre time that we're living in. Like it's a really nice beneficial hack to just connect you to yourself and connect you with God, family and kind of the things that are more important to your life and keep you authentic and on track.
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David Lee Corbo
Well, that, that thing that you mentioned back there, Adam, about a distance from your thought and your.
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Top Lobster
I was just going to bring that up. Yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
Because we've come to a place in our research where it seems very much like your thoughts are not your own. They're not representative of you and very many of them are almost intrusive. They pop into your head and it's you who decides to act on them and then it becomes where did the thoughts come from? But yes, I could see it as massively beneficial if you can pull back from a situation and realize that those thoughts that are intrusive, they demand reactivity, you don't have to give them that.
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Top Lobster
Would you, would you call that like a minor form of disassociation? Like being able to like, pull back and look? Because that's a, that's an idea that we've been looking at as well. I mean, there's extreme disassociation that comes with like SRA and you know, the things that happen to kids.
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Adam Schell
Right.
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Top Lobster
That's really unfortunate stuff. Yeah, but, but there also needs to be that disassociation from your emotions, like especially in the moment, or your, your inclination to do something. It's like a snap reaction. You should, you need to step back and take a look at the entire landscape and then you can make a decision. Oftentimes in life, it like, like we were talking about maybe even before the show, like, just goes like, bang, bang, bang, bang. And it's like time is dilated. We're flying through it. I don't have time to, with, with children. Do we have time to like, measure and balance our reactions and emotions? Like, no, like, I got things to do, like get in the shower. What do you, you know what I mean? Brush your teeth. What are you doing?
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David Lee Corbo
If, if all of you know, this is a, a Christian show and, and you know, we do look at the concept of sin. Much of your desire to sin comes from your own flesh. You know, this, this body that we have has these desires. And if you can separate yourself from that to a degree, then that could even be better for resisting, you know, some of these stupid urges that you have to go do this drug or do this thing or, or you know, get angry or, you know, masturbate some, some terrible crap. You could kind of. I could see that as, as theoretically giving you the advantage in overcoming those urges.
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Adam Schell
So. Okay, a couple things there. I like the term witness consciousness and non reactiveness. Non, non reactivity or non reactiveness. I don't use the term disassociative because it's a little too caught up in court. Well, it's a little too. Also caught up in modern psychology and so forth and some of that context. So I just use this less reactive or non reactive or witness consciousness. And that's really what I find is witness consciousness. So I can tell you in terms of Christ consciousness and aspiring to higher values that the feedback that we get from microdosing is absolutely extraordinary people because it's non, it's non addictive and it's anti addictive. So I literally have people who have used this to curtail their addictions to pornography. They love their wives more, they love their partner and their Spouse more. They have it, it aligns your sexuality in kind of a healthy way. Drinking, I, I mean 50 times. I mean, I've sold 10,000 of these units and I've sold about a third of them by hand. So I've literally had more. There's much better mushroom people, I always say, and there's much better brain experts in the world than me. But no one's had more conversations one on one about how to microdose and how to problem solve and how to go about microdosing than I have. I really don't think I'm about 3,000 conversations. So I'm probably like the foremost microdosing coach in terms of real, authentic, one on one feedback, non clinical, honest, conversational feedback. And I, all the time. It just helps people move in a beneficial direction. It curbs their addictions, it gets them healthier and happier. It moves you to a place of beneficial homeostasis. I believe that mushrooms are sentient and they, they're using us as much as we're using them, or maybe even more so with the plant kingdom, what we're discovering. And they want us to be healthy and happy and productive and emotionally grounded so that the environment that we live on is healthier and happier and more productive. So mushrooms can do more and mycelium can connect and communicate through the forest and the trees and they can do their job. So they want us to be happy. I can tell you from personal experience. So look, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm married. I, I'm a super committed dad and husband and so forth. And my wife has been away for seven weeks and we have a very healthy, active, good sex life. You know, that's great. I'm horny all the time. And my, since my wife's been away, it's like a switch. I just decided I'm going to flip that switch. I don't want to be desirous. I don't want to be, I don't want to be looking at other women. I want to be thinking about my wife, thinking about my kids, thinking about my responsibility. You know, my wife and son are in Germany doing some professional soccer tryouts. My oldest son, I'm here with my other son and I want to be as attentive and best dad as I can be. And I don't want to be distracted by sexual thoughts and desires and horniness and everything. And it's literally like the switch turned off. And I think the microdosing helps in that regard. Like I'm, you know, no, desire.
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David Lee Corbo
It's. It's detaching you from, like, what we just said. Right. The desires are attached to your flesh in very many ways. And if you can detach from that, maybe. Disassociates. Not a great word, but, yeah, it's a pretty.
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Adam Schell
It's a pretty good word in this.
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David Lee Corbo
It is a good word, but. But I recognize that it's caught up. And especially with us, it's like, we've been talking about disassociative identity disorders on this show, like 17.
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Top Lobster
Think about the guy with eyes open.
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David Lee Corbo
And, you know, not that version, but. But I. I want to say I can also speak to what you said before about this substance addiction issue. So I. The only time I took mushrooms was five dried grams. And I can tell you that afterwards, I had no desire to do it again. And I'm not saying that it was a bad experience, and I didn't want to do it again. It just kind of wasn't calling me to do it again. It wasn't something that. I think in the 90s and the early 2000s, you would get a caricature version of somebody who was doing psychedelics, and it always ended up with them spiraling into a frenzy and saying something cliche like visuals of purple elephants. It was not the case at all. What I experienced. What I experienced was a profound understanding and. And a. And a calmness and. And a sort of a piece that would come with that understanding. Really what it was was. It was a roller coaster of epiphany over and over again. I would have a thought, and that thought would be about the nature of behavior. Always that that was what the entire thing was. Why do I behave this way? Why does somebody else behave this way? Why do they think and do these things? And I would receive an answer that was very much outside of myself. I was receiving an answer. And that answer was. It had a lot to do with human nature, human psychology, and also, like, circumstances that may have taken place in people's lives. And then you don't see the ways in which it spirals and then flavors them basically, you know, in adulthood. And so it was profound. And also I noticed my visual acuity was kind of nuts. I was watching, like, bugs crawl in the grass from very far away. I was seeing deer pop out of the tree line because I was in a wooded area, and they were so far away, and I would notice them instantly. It was like anything that moved would. Would trigger this awareness in me. And by the end of it, yeah, I. I felt as though I had been. I don't want to say enlightened, because that is a little bit. It's also one of those words that has a lot of baggage. But it was like I was. I was made to be calm. I was made. It was almost like, here's what's happening, and you can relax about that. And I was like, yeah, all right.
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Top Lobster
True.
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Adam Schell
Yeah, yeah. That's very common. I like to tell people that what. What the heroic dose does is it turns the proverbial lights on. So for the time that you're in that experience, you see the pattern of the room and the pattern of the furniture, and you have great insights. And then when the experience ends, the lights go back off. But the pattern of the darkness is never the same. Like, you have a sense of where the furniture lies. You know how to navigate yourself to the bathroom at midnight. You're not going to knock your shins into something. And. And then the microdose just kind of, whether you've had the macro experience or not, it just continually walks you back to that light space. So it keeps you on. It keeps you on track with the light. And what most people find is that, you know, some people like to use the heroic dose, the therapeutic dose, like from a kind of informative, almost a technique and technology and method to insight, learning, a deeper compassion. Like, they'll use it almost from a. In a therapeutic kind of way. Others have one experience, and very often that one experience is enough because it allowed you to touch the mystical and to kind of touch the divine. And so now you. It gives you, like, a sense of calm that in some ways, this craziness, this chaos has some divine organization to it, and it's all going to be okay, which is, you know, which is. Is. Is very interesting. The other thing that's so critical, which top, I think is kind of goes to your initial concern, is that set and setting, as the expression goes, is so important. Like, Sam Tripoli doesn't want to do mushrooms again because he ate them in the Atlanta airport. You know, he ate. He tells the story. I forget the story. Like, I'm going to screw it up. But he ate, like, 7 grams of mushrooms as he was traveling and walking through the Atlanta airport.
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David Lee Corbo
Like, God bless.
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Adam Schell
I was like, oh, my God, dude.
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David Lee Corbo
Like, what, a gangster wouldn't do it myself.
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Adam Schell
It's not going to be Dante's Inferno. You're just going to go lower and lower and lower. It's the worst. But if you have a therapeutic coach who you connect with, who you think is kind of spiritually on track and is holding a very kind of high vibration, or if you feel you can do this on your own and you have the headset and the playlist, or you're in nature, if you control the environment and put. You don't necessarily have to control it, but if you put yourself in what you feel is a healthy, beneficial environment, either with healthy people who are going for something of a higher nature.
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David Lee Corbo
Or.
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Adam Schell
You'Re in nature, it will almost often be a very valuable therapeutic, deeply healing and wonderful and enlightening experience. If you're not aware of set and setting, if you're using it in a kind of party environment, or if you're just doing it under pressure and you don't like the practitioner who's leading it, like it can get weird and it can get pretty unpleasant.
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David Lee Corbo
I. Are you familiar with Shane Moss?
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Adam Schell
Yeah, I definitely know the name. If you start talking about. I'm gonna get.
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David Lee Corbo
Shane Moss is a stand up comedian, but wasn't. I wasn't made aware of him until he did the documentary Psychonautics, a comics exploration of psychedelics. And this was on Amazon prime for, for a time, maybe. I would say this was about seven years ago. And so Shane, what he does is he goes to a bunch of clinical settings, but some of these substances don't have an established clinical setting to do them in. So he was also out in sort of, let's say, like shamanistic settings. And he goes through the gambit. He does dimethyltryptamine, he does ketamine in a clinical setting, he does even the, the frog venom that comes out of the back of a toad, he does that as well. Mdma, the whole thing, he does it all, including mushrooms. And I watched this and I thought it was absolutely fascinating. And so I reached out to Shane and somehow he agreed to coming on my podcast at the time, which is like, you know, probably one of his great regrets. And he, he explains this whole situation and we talk about the stigma associated with psychedelics, we talk about the potential health benefits of these psychedelics. And then he, what he does is he puts me in touch with someone who's doing a retreat. They're taking people to Jamaica where it's, you know, you know, I guess they, they have an entire like set and setting out there, you know, with, yeah, people that are leading the experience. And, and I think also there's like this kind of beautiful tropical vibe. So that sort of helps out. And he comes on my show and he tells me all about this. And by that point I Had had enough, I suppose, like anecdotal research or, or, or testimony. Testimony, yeah, but, but like third party experience, you know what I mean? Like it wasn't my own experience. And so I decided that it was time. And then just the randomness of it. I had never had access to these sorts of things. And then all of a sudden some doorway opened up. I worked on a farm and, and one of the guys that worked there, you know, had some. And so totally strange that that even fell into my lap. But to your point about set and setting, I do think that there is. I've had bad experiences on mdma and I would say there's a multitude of reasons for that. You know, I was young and, and an idiot. And so I was mixing this with alcohol, which is a huge, huge mistake. And I was at a party that I didn't want to be at. Everybody that knows me knows that I can't hang past like 9, 9:30. So this was just not a good setting for me. I was very sleepy, I was very cranky.
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Adam Schell
And you and me both.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, I can't do it these days anymore. I'm getting better at it. I'm trying to, but I have to make a conscious effort to stay up late now to train myself. So in that experience, that was very bad. I remember seeing through a film of red. I remember being unable to control my thoughts. And I was like I said, very young. I was like 16 years old. So I didn't have the grasp on my own psychology that I have now. But I did end up in a very negative place on mushrooms. However, the trip never went negative. And, and this is something I know that we're saying like that people do have bad experiences on mushrooms, depending on set and setting and the individual as well. But I hear overwhelmingly that it's far and few in between and that mostly people have a positive experience. And just to frame that, I left my house. I. My buddy picked me up, we drove down a highway for an hour and a half, and when we got to where we were going, his brother was relapsing. He was a recovering alcoholic. And I'm on mushrooms. I'm on five grams of mushrooms. And I see this guy, he's. He's wallowing in his own backyard in the dirt with a handle of Captain Morgan. The one that has the handle, I don't know what that. 1.5. It's a big ass bottle. And it's virtually gone. It's virtually gone. This guy has drank all of that and he immediately gravitates towards me. And he's an old buddy of mine. We hadn't talked to each other for years, but I'm standing toe to toe with this guy, and he is just. He's incoherent. He's trying to communicate. He's just grunting. You know, this, like, unfortunately, when people are recovering from alcoholism, they often have this. This guttural, raspy grunt that. That'll come out. And I recognize those. I. I even recognize it as not being him. Necessary. I'm not saying that he was, like, demonically possessed, although maybe you can make an argument for that. As much as it was like, they.
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Adam Schell
Call it spirits for a reason.
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David Lee Corbo
Exactly. Exactly. And. And so it felt like he was inhabited by this spirit of alcoholism, the spirit that makes people sound like that. He sounded like he wasn't even himself anymore. And I go through this whole experience where his mother comes out and she's torn up about it, so much so that she can't even tell that I'm on five grams of mushrooms. It's not an ideal position to be in. It's very strange.
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Top Lobster
Sounds like a disaster. Dude.
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Adam Schell
Dude.
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David Lee Corbo
It was a disaster. But what I'm getting at is I never felt like the trip was going bad. I felt sad. I felt sympathetic to him. I had an understanding of what he was going through that was beyond me. And it was an insight that I was granted in that moment that was. You couldn't come out of it any other way besides feeling pity for him just. Just to watch a soul. That's what it was in. In that moment because of the mushrooms. I was not watching an old buddy who was going through alcoholism and.
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Adam Schell
And.
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David Lee Corbo
And had relapsed. I was watching a soul get tortured in front of me. And so oftentimes I look back at that experience like it gave me a multitude of things. And like I said, I've never felt compelled to do it again. But the. The. I sometimes think that if the whole world had the ability to go through, like, a trip now and then of mushrooms. And I'm not typically an advocate for psychedelics because of the whole set setting and individual thing, but that aside, that understanding that, like, empathy and sympathy for individuals, that understanding of it's so hard to hate someone when you understand what made somebody, and that was what it did a lot.
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Adam Schell
And what's your relationship with alcohol been like since you witnessed your friend in state?
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David Lee Corbo
I typically never really struggled with alcohol, but there are times where, like, I don't drink right now. Not like it's a conscious Thing, I just don't have a desire to drink. And I did make a little bit of a decision maybe about six or seven months ago where I said, I'm having a few more beers per night than I would like. And I recognize that this wants to take me down a certain path, and I can't allow it to, so I had to stop. So in that way, I don't know if this came from the mushroom experience, but I've always become. I've been, for as long as I can remember, good at identifying when something is getting a hold of me, and then I just kind of pull back from it. And it's not like a big calamity. I'm not celebrating X amount of years sober or something like that. I just go, ah, that thing wants me to be friends with it a lot more than I should. And so I kind of back away from those things. So. But my. My relationship with what I perceive as alcoholism has probably changed quite a bit because it's hard for me to just blame a person, because what I was shown is that there is a tremendous amount of dominoes that have been knocked over that have led to what I'm witnessing in this moment. And, you know, I. I don't know necessarily how to help those people. I have ideas, but I think people have to come when they're ready. And. And it's their own journey. And. And I've watched so many people try to, like, help alcoholics, and then it just. They relapse and it destroys even the people that are trying to help them. So I'm not saying I have a solution for that, but I do have an understanding now of, like, yeah, man, that you don't. You don't understand what goes into making somebody do those things.
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Adam Schell
Let me share a personal experience. So I was 19 years old. I was with my brother in Key West, Florida. He had picked up some mushrooms. We were on spring break. He's a couple years older. And we went to a cafe in the morning. We dropped some. We don't even know how many. We dropped them in the tea. We smushed them up. We put some honey and some lemon in there, and then we cut them up and we. We drank it down ourselves. We were on these cruiser bikes, and this was 1990 in Key West, Florida. So I don't know what Key west is like now, but it was still pretty funky and pretty wild. You know, the bottom very. Like the very bottom receptacle of the United States. And we had an unbelievable day on these cruiser bikes, like it was bonding and it was just laughing and joyful and connection with nature and one another. It was ecstatic. There was a point where we came down to this public beach area and there's these sparse pines, kind of sparsely populated pines leading to a rocky beach, then the water. My brother runs into the bathroom and I'm holding the two cruiser bikes and out of nowhere pops this homeless veteran. He's Vietnam veteran, he's 38 years old, and I'm in this altered state. And he was sweet, his nature was sweet. I wasn't concerned about anything. And he starts to share with me about how when he was 19, he was a prisoner of war in Vietnam and he was kept in a mud pen and all his mates died. He spent six months like that and he's the only one that lived. And ever since then, since he came back, he's had to live outside. He's got to be free and he's got to be in nature. He can't be, you know. And in this altered state that I was in, my empathic connection to him was so profound. Now, as a college football player at Northwestern at the time, I was recruited by all the military academies. And if I didn't have a shoulder injury, I might have even gone to like, like Navy or Air Force or Army, one of the schools. But what that did to me, I realized I'm 19, he's 38, he's lived twice my life. He had an experience when he's 19 that he still never recovered from. The empathic spontaneous revelation that I had about how fragile our psychology is, how we can do something that our lives will never recover from almost. And then the implications of war and of violence, like it spontaneously shifted my worldview in that moment. I was never like, excited that we were going to be going to war. Then as a 19 or 20 year old, and we had Gulf War One and Gulf War Two, it led me down a path to be skeptical of institutional powers. And, you know, I've been on the chemtrail since 1998, okay? Like, I knew vaccines were. It woke up an empathic understanding to me about institutional powers and how they'll manipulate and drive young people in dangerous directions. So, like, I've never done, my kids have never done a vaccine. I knew they were bullshit from day one, you know, and. And by that empathic opening that that psychedelic experience had on me as a 19 year old, forever moved my life in a beneficial direction. And so what your lobster? Like you're concerned about this, like, engaging darkness or entities that can happen when you're under the influence of mushrooms. But if you go into it in a, in a good mindset and also for anybody out there, if you just have a few phrases that you can use, and the problem with the heroic dose is when you fight it, when you resist, if you can just say allow, allow and come to your breath, or teach me, teach me, you know, open me, open me, you'll push through that hardness and a new insight in Revelation will come about you. The time we're living in the world, our connection to one another. So the main problem comes when we grip too hard, when we embrace our ego in this altered state. But if we can just surrender and we can allow the, the mushrooms to teach us, and we can, if we can ask the divine to come through, like, miraculous things will happen in your, in your worldview, your understanding, your own psychological makeup, physical makeup, even injuries and healings. And then I almost always find people come out of these experiences more spiritually tuned in, more religious, if religion's their thing, greater connection to God, spirit, nature, whatever it may be. And I almost always push through in a beneficial way. And certainly that one experience I had as a 19 year old, that's what led me to form My company literally 30 years later, as a 49 year old, is I never forgot that experience and, and what that meant to me.
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Top Lobster
These. Do you feel like you had. You feel like you had like a form of telepathy with this guy? Like you able to. No. But you were, you were empathetic to his exact story, his emotion? You could feel it.
- [39:26]
Adam Schell
I. This is, this is why it's kind of to be unhumble for a second. This is why it's good to have me on, because I have vocabulary for all these things that you're kind of like that are hazy or touching upon. So the film Fantastic Fungi, which deals with the life and work of Paul Stamets, pre Covid. Paul Stamets, when he. Whatever happened to him.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, yeah.
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Adam Schell
So. But I don't want to go too hard on that because the, the work he's done and you know, the work with bees and funguses and all these things is, is just incredible. And what happened, you know, there on that Rogan show and, and the way he wants to use mushroom technology now to reduce vaccine. Vaccine hesitancy. Like, I don't understand that. That's.
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David Lee Corbo
Well, listen, Adam, before you get into that, we're at the 41 minute mark. I think it's probably a good time to let everybody know that, you know, the jig is up and we're going to be going exclusively to patreon.com backslash Nephilim Death Squad. But you guys can continue enjoying this conversation, engaging in the live chat and enjoying an ad free experience. You just got to go to patreon.com backslash nephilim death squad. Sign up for free if you'd like and continue enjoying this conversation.
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Top Lobster
Otherwise, guys, this is going to be a black belt level conversation. So I suggest you.
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Adam Schell
Oh yeah, we're about to. I'm about to release wisdom.
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David Lee Corbo
That's where I felt, I was like, we're going there. Let's go in right now. Yep. All right. Bye, guys. Sorry, Adam. Please take it away.
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Adam Schell
No, that's great. Okay, so in the film Fantastic Fungi, which deals largely with the life and work of Paul Stamets and the. A lot about the mycelial network. So mycelium are the root fibers of mushrooms and these are the largest living entities in the world.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, we had a couple of guys on from a man real early in the show from Cryptids of the Corn and one of the wildlife biologists, and he told us that the largest organism on Earth is a, is a mycelium network called Bob and, and I forgot what he said how large this thing was, but it was like a vast majority of a national forest. And then some like it's something really crazy.
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Adam Schell
Yeah, it's like five square miles, I think in the Pacific Northwest is quite enormous. But what, what the mycelium do is they, they're the neurological links of the forest. They're the root fibers of the mushrooms that interconnect the forest and it interconnects the trees. It can relay information between the trees, needs from the trees. They even believe that it can relate from the trees to the wildlife, that it can. It can get a bird of prey to grab a salmon out of this river and eat it on this tree. Because this salmon could use the benefit of the salmon guts and the discarded carcass of the salmon as nutrients. So it's quite extraordinary. So while I never found anything telepathic in the microdosing state or macrodosing state, what I have felt is this etheric mycelial network, human mycelial network. So from my heart and my head, fibers go out. And my ability to communicate and to relay information with clarity, sensitivity, mindfulness, and then to receive information when I need to give what I need to receive. And when I'm in authentic conversation with people who are open, my heart connection and my mind connection to Them is quite extraordinary. And so what I experienced with this Vietnam veteran was a profound etheric mycelial connection of heart and head where I both intellectually understood and emotionally understood what violence and exposure to violence like that can do to us as a human being and do to us for generations.
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Top Lobster
But that was through a verbal exchange, right?
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Adam Schell
But it was also no, my, my heart connection to him, my mind. There was language, but there was a heart connection, a mind connection. This etheric fields go out and he's giving me information, I'm receiving information and we're sharing and that was very profound. And over my seven years of microdosing and developing this, this company brain supreme, I do feel that I kind of have this increased sense of what I call the etheric mycelial field that connects all of us where I feel an empathic connection to particularly fellow tuned in human beings. And I also know when there's just no connection and I know to stop. There's just no points. There's, there's, there's nothing going on here.
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David Lee Corbo
I don't know if that came from my experience with mushrooms, but I have something very similar and I don't know how far to trace it back, but like I know somehow what people feel about me, even oftentimes like before I meet them and, and then I'm only proven like incredibly correct, honestly.
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Top Lobster
How do I feel about you, David?
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David Lee Corbo
Well, no, I know how you feel about me, but, but that happens mostly with people that, that don't like me. I have a, I don't know what it is that I put off, but people are very polarized from me, typically very polarized by me. You either like me or you, you feel like a kinship or whatever. I mean, I'm sorry, you either dislike me or you feel a kinship. And, and I've always been keenly aware of that for as long as I can remember.
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Adam Schell
Do you find that's accelerated since COVID and the jabs and all these other things? I would say acceleration of timeline.
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David Lee Corbo
I would say that it has only because, and I don't know what, you know, chicken or the egg, what came first, but since COVID I have become very convicted and outspoken, which is only, you know, galvanizing or polarizing people when it comes to me, even more so. So, so I think it's actually a good thing that I had going into this because since what I do now is going to end up creating a very hate love relationship with people that know me, I already have a good feel for that. So I kind of know where people fall.
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Top Lobster
It's an interesting observation about like since COVID that's a good delineation marker and you're talking about Paul Stamets and a number of other people who've lost their minds. I feel bad to even say that because like, you know, I'm named top lobster because of Jordan Peterson's first book and I thought that he was a great inspiration and then since I think he's lost the plot but there's something happened. It's like a timeline switch between, you know, covet happened 2020 and then people are different and it's hard for me to even blame them because it's, it's such a huge psychological operation that people went through. But I feel like there's two different things happening. There's like a, your discernment what you, what you've already been blessed with. Then there's also your, your willingness to participate as you were talking about with. If you're going to take a high dose of, you know, any kind of psychedelic, well, you might as well submit you've already signed on the dotted line to do it when you ingested it. So like, go along for the ride. Stupid. Don't fight this. It's not going to be good. It's going to be a poll. Go ahead, Adam.
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Adam Schell
Okay, I just want to interject right there but you in this, like I want you to finish your larger thought but in the psychedelic experience you may meet with, with, with entities and energies that you don't agree with. And in fact I just had this recently. I was gifted a psychedelic session with a practitioner whom I've worked with and referred a lot of business and you know, I, I, I face planted in the cannabis industry very, very badly number years ago I, I was a 50 year old man. I lost everything and then some. I lost other people's money, investors, money, farmers. Like it went so bad, like Netflix series terrible bad. And I still carry a lot of guilt from that, a lot of shame and so, and also you know, concerned about my family's prosperity and well being for the future and teenage boys and all this, you know, I'm trying to provide as a, as a, as a husband and father and I met a, an energy in this altered state and it was, I never talk about Phoenix, like ancient Phoenix and Phoenicia, but it was a Phoenician energy. It was a like Phoenician goddess energy. And it literally said to me, come this way and I'll give you everything you want. And it was dark and I Knew it wasn't good. And I said, I reject you outright. I stay with God, I reject you outright. And went and disappeared when I, yeah, and when I came out of that and I was like, for lack of a better term, I was kind of proud of myself because there was no temptation. Like, I was like, as soon as I sense the dark energy, I'm like not going there. No way. I'm not. You know, that's, that's, that's not the gift that I want. So. And then the practitioner who was supervising the session was like, did you something come up?
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Top Lobster
I'm like, oh yeah.
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Adam Schell
She's like, because I felt an energy. And I was like, not here, go away.
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David Lee Corbo
That's interesting because they even felt it. So you have Astarte, which is a Phoenician goddess of love, fertility and war. Also was the same role in, in Canaan, in, in, you know, for the Canaanites. And I just, I think that that's fascinating because people that hear that and, and myself included, there's like a knee jerk reaction. And the knee jerk reaction is like, well if you're going to a place where you're interacting with entities and you probably shouldn't go to that place, especially if those entities are bad. But that would require you to then suspend belief in the idea that we are in constant spiritual warfare. That there are always things that are set for us and set against us and that are pulling us and nudging us in one way or the other. So if that is your reason for abstaining, and I'm just trying to steel man the argument here, I know my audience knows that I kind of go back and forth on these ideas and, and it's, it's, it's not cut and dry, the psychedelic experience. But if that is your reason for abstaining, well then you'd have to abstain from waking life as well. I mean, I guess, you know, it's upon you.
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Top Lobster
He thinks you meant Inanna. I think that's one of the, it's like one of the nine from.
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David Lee Corbo
It's a mother goddess.
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Top Lobster
Yeah.
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Adam Schell
You can email me at Adam atthebrain supreme.com and send me any images because I, it's just happened a few days ago so I need you got to see this.
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David Lee Corbo
Any, any notable physical traits?
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Adam Schell
It seemed a feminine body, an eagle's head, multi colored.
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Top Lobster
What were the feet like?
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Adam Schell
I, I, it was just upper body. Just upper body. Interesting. Yeah. And it had some eagle like feminine eagle like quality. And I came out, I came out of the There was definite blue in there. Yeah, there was definitely. There was blue, yellow and red.
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David Lee Corbo
Blue avian pieces. Ish.
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Adam Schell
Look, you know, I don't wanna, I don't wanna. I, I didn't want to steal top moment there too.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, this is much more fascinating. Continue.
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Adam Schell
What I just, what I just wanted to say is that, look, we live in, we live in God's duality and we have to learn how to process the duality. And you know, spiritual warfare is. Which I agree with, but it's so charged up, you're always on edge. And if they say that these nephilim survive off our negative energy and our anger and our animosity towards one another, I want to kind of come away from the spiritual warfare. And like this is God's duality and there's only one power, only one source, only one grace. And so I just want to be aware of the duality, how I'm going to navigate for myself, my wife, my children, my community, my company, all these things. And then keep going to the light. Keep going to the light. So in the psychedelic space, if you are confronted with this dualistic elements and that they're going to tell you, if you go this way, I'll give you everything you want. If you reject that, if you can process that and reject that Faustian bargain. If you can reject that and process that in this altered state, I think it infuses you with spiritual vigor and clarity for then your everyday conscious life. So I don't think, I don't think coming across entities and energies in altered states is necessarily negative. I think it could be profoundly positive and help you assimilate and process this in your everyday life and the clarity of the kind of person that you want to be.
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David Lee Corbo
This, what I want from people is just for them to know that there is a spiritual realm. And if you know that there's a spiritual realm, that's a great starting point. If you can then go a little bit further and know that there are a plethora of entities that inhabit that realm. Some are for you, some are against you, and some are everything in the middle. Well, that's another great starting point. Go into that with these two things and just know that you don't have to agree to anything and that there are things that might deceive you. There are also things that are not evil, that are not inherently evil, that are for God. And so the problem is, is many of us don't even think there is a spiritual realm. And that's, that's where the real problem Kicks in. That's what I've said.
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Adam Schell
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
This is our issue with Brogan. It's like, you know, get in the float tank, take DMT and talk to whatever. But it's like you're not really warning about like I believe that there are also layers of dimensions that we're kind of like peeling into. So mushrooms will allow you to see something. My friend went to South America and she did ayahuasca. They. Yeah. And so one of the things that. This is why I warned the audience because we're talking to, you know, when we first started the show we were talking to a hundred people. Now there's, I don't know, probably 15,000 that will listen to a given episode or more. I don't know who they are, I don't know where they are, I don't know what their intentions are and what they're going to do. But she's in this retreat and before they do the ayahuasca, they have, you know, the shamanistic rituals where they'll cleanse this land and they kind of walk around and I wouldn't do this, but they, I don't know. She, she described some kind of smoke. So they're, they're creating a barrier for them to like do the spirit spiritual encounter inside of which tells me they are in a place where there is spiritual activity. But they want this kind of closed off, you know, so that way there's no interference. So number one, there could be interference depending on the locality you're in. I don't know where you're at and I don't know what you'll. You'd be susceptible to. She, she also mentioned seeing a jaguar headed lady and I think on our last episode. Who are we talking to?
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, somebody was in the Amazon seeing jaguar headed entities and it's like, okay, there's your.
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Top Lobster
On the same drug, so. Yeah, exactly. So now you're telling me like it's. I don't know if it's layers like this, but you know, mushrooms will get you in this plane and maybe you'll see the clockwork elves. Ayahuasca will get you on this plane and maybe the grass will sing to you or you'll see this jaguar headed lady and she'll talk to you. And then LSD and whatever, you name it. The different type of drugs, entities exist on all of these levels. There are many, we don't know what they are and they're.
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David Lee Corbo
It's almost like in the physical realm we're here and we could do a Number of things. You could have an enlightening conversation with a Vietnam veteran and show him empathy and sympathy and kinship and, and gleam something remarkable from it. Or in the very same realm, you could orchestrate the, the genocide of an entire people. Right. And so when you do a lot of stuff. Right, right. The spiritual realm is, is no different. Right. So, so you can have some sort of profound experience there, or you can get the CIA to inundate you with their own artificial manufactured psychedelics and they could inundate you with trauma based torture and create a disassociative identity disorder to then you all up in the game and end up program programming you for something. Now, is that the fault of the realm that you're going to when you disassociate and you're on these drugs, or is that the fault of something that, you know, seeks to manipulate you and achieve something nefarious? So that could happen there and it can happen here. So in that way, I don't see a way around that argument, that statement that I just laid out. It is as neutral. Maybe not neutral, but it is, it is. The nature of the spiritual realm is very similar to the nature of the physical realm in that it is another landscape and another place for you to explore where any number of things can happen, good or bad.
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Adam Schell
Well, look, the vast majority of experiences from the community that I move in and the people I interact with is they come out of these profoundly affected and almost always in a beneficial direction. It curbs addiction. It commits them to, commits them to their role as a father and as a mother. It gives them clarity. They'll have spontaneous rebirthing processes so they can forgive their parents or they can relive and figure something out and heal it. So, you know, I don't want to get like too sidetracked because if, I mean, let me tell you why I think you guys are getting so successful and why like Sam Tripoli is so popular and so successful. Because look, and Joe Rogan lives just a couple blocks away from me, interestingly enough. And I've like, like, bizarrely like our kids went to the same martial arts studio and I lived in Los Angeles. And so I think he's done amazing work in terms of elevating the level of authentic conversation that can happen. But, and then, you know, Patrick bet David and so many of these, Chris Williamson, so many of these top podcasters, like, they're finally talking about like some real shit, you know, like there. But, but then, then you've got the you guys of the world and Sam Tripoli was like, no, no, there's a whole other level. And so now, like, I can, I can hardly even watch those other shows anymore because it's like, no, no, we need to get to the spiritual level, like, what is really going on? And like Gary Wayne, did you have on? It was such a great podcast. The guy's so brilliant. I loved it. But the reason why your show, Sam, Tripoli, in this whole kind of conspiratorial realm, also within the spiritual conversation, is because you're questing after the deeper truths and organizing principles that are informing the mundane level that everybody's talking about, about this vaccine and that vaccine. And now they're finally talking about chem shell. Like you're getting to it, like what's the mindset or what's the spiritual energy or dark energy that's driving people to get in the plane to do that or to push this vaccine? So your, you guys are truth beacons. You know where you're really going for it. And that's why your popularity is only going to continue to grow because we need that. But in the same vein, the psychedelic experience at the macro and the micro level for your type of listeners will infuse them into informative. Their own truth seeking, their own intuition, their own connection to spirit and to God and to turning on that intuition of when they know something is good and beneficial or, you know, I reject you outright, you know, that's not the end. That's not the way I want to achieve my prosperity in life. So it tunes you up. And so I think for your type of audience and the type of information that they're questing and the, the good work, the God's work, the God work that you guys do, I think it is of, can be of tremendous benefit. You just have to be mindful of who you're doing it with, when you're doing it, where you're doing it, and, and work to make that environment a sacred space. Microdosing is not so much microdosing, it's a supplement. You know, you take it and you're going to find you're a little nicer, you're getting on a little better in life. Serendipity happens a little more divine serendipity. You know, you're meeting the right people at the right time at the right place, your intuition turns on, you know, immediately. Like you're saying, raven, you know, this person, I vibe with this person, I don't vibe with that person. It kind of elevates and tunes your, your intuition up like that.
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Top Lobster
Do you.
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David Lee Corbo
Is there a notable uptick in visual acuity when you're microdosing?
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Adam Schell
Okay, so psilocybin in and of itself is one of the most powerful anti inflammatories and it's a. It breaches the blood brain barrier. So it's my. There's not much research on this, but my own personal thought is the reason why at the macro level, the visual acuity, oral acuity, is because it spontaneously reduces inflammation in the brain, the inner ear, the ocular inflammation around the eye. So you see better, you hear better, and then there's added psychedelic benefits at the microdosing level. I have heard reports of people starting to hear better of tinnitus dissipating. I've got a lot of NFL guys and some MMA guys, one in particular who told me, like, once he found his sweet spot with how to microdose, his seven year tinnitus went away. So it will reduce the inflammation in your brain and inner ear and around your eye. So you will often see a little better, hear a little better, and think a little more clearly. So, yes, for sure. Even at the microdosing level, you can experience some level of visual improvement, auditory improvement.
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Top Lobster
Oh, for sure. This is one of the things that my cousin had reported. Almost immediately he was like. Because he's obviously, he's an artist for his whole life. So he's working again in art now. And he's like, his ability to perceive the color or at least understand it, he's like, it's just like tenfold on. Just on micro dosing. He doesn't do heroic dose anymore. So that is. That's certainly true. But going back to. I remember what I was talking about before. We were talking about this idea of like, this after 2020, like, I think people's discernment, if they already had it, it increased. But there's something in the air as well. Like this overall spirituality feels like it's been dialed up to, you know, maybe seven. It. It's. If it was at four before or maybe at three after Covid, it's definitely at a seven. And we can feel that. And it's so all of these other, I guess, powers that we have or these gifts that we have, either a gift of discernment or if you are using a micro. A micro dose of mushrooms, it feels like. Are you still there, Adam? Your screen went blank. Okay, you're back. Can you hear me.
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Adam Schell
Top? I can't hear you for a second.
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Top Lobster
All right, how about now? Can you hear me now?
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Adam Schell
I'm Gonna click. I'm gonna. I'm gonna click refresh. I'm so sorry.
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Top Lobster
Okay, I. I hear you. All right, we'll. Wait a second. Good thing this is pre taped. We'll just go ahead and refresh this and edit that out.
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Adam Schell
Okay, we're great. We're great. We're back.
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Top Lobster
Adam's back. Okay. But this is why we. We do editing, so. All good? Yeah. Like I was saying that this idea of. I don't know if you want to call it ether, psi, plasma, or this consciousness, it seems like it's thickened and things like discernment. Things like micro dosing, not just on mushrooms, but like, on. On other things as well. They seem. I don't know if they're more potent or if it's like the. The time has come for this idea to now be put out there, but it's. It's certainly out there now. Like, my. My wife used to. She. She's a registered nurse, and she used to work in a clinic where they were doing experimental testing on micro dosing with ketamine on people with PTSD veterans and. Or just people that had, like, you know, trauma or whatever. And I don't think it was as successful as psilocybin would be. There was a lot of weird trips. Not necessarily negative side effects, but weird. But anyway, people were open and perceptive to this idea. This is post 2020. Oh, no, no, this is pre2020. This is right before COVID And. Yeah, she stopped that job right before COVID Oh, thank God. Yeah.
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Adam Schell
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
Things got weird.
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Adam Schell
We'll talk about being tuned in. I mean.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, yeah. The com. The company actually decided to move in a different direction. They were doing. Instead of, like, the. Whatever ketamine substance it was, they. They actually switched over to the Bayer nasal. Nasal spray. And that's highly addictive.
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Adam Schell
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
Yeah. It turns out. And the company went under. It was not a good. They were having really bad side effects from that.
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David Lee Corbo
When I was a kid, I was addicted to Afrin for, like, a little while before my mom picked up on, like. She's like, I don't know. It seems like you can't sleep now without Afrin because, you know, it's for stuffy nose. And I was having stuffy nose issues. And then she picked up on it, and she was like, no, you can't use it anymore. And then, sure enough, studies came out years later where it's like, aphrodite's highly addictive.
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Adam Schell
Wow.
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Top Lobster
Wow.
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David Lee Corbo
I. I wanted to ask you, Adam, you're You're in this spiritual quest in very many ways. You're dealing with spiritual principles in the spiritual realm, and you're accessing it through, you know, biology. And I'm wondering if you get this feeling at all right now. There's a lot of sentiments about the thinning of the veil that we're getting to a place where, you know, if you're into sort of the Ugaritics, it's like, oh, we're at the end of the Kali Yuga. And the Kali Yuga is a period where we are spiritually and intellectually stunted and that when we come out of it, we'll be in a sort of enlightenment. And then that gives way to a bunch of other conversations about the age of enlightenment, and then even various occultists who think that we're moving into this golden age, which will be like a spiritually advanced age. And all of that connects to this idea that, like, we used to be more in tune with the spiritual realm. We used to be more advanced, we used to be more intellectual. But something has changed. And I look around now you're talking, Adam, about how well these podcasts are being received, right? And I wonder, like, is it, Is it, Is it. Are they being received? Because it's, it's that time now. And I, I wonder your opinion on it, because you're so close to it and you're, you're constantly dipping your foot in that realm in a big way.
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Top Lobster
It feels like, like his company. And the topic at hand is like, the time has come and it's just been breaching through this, you know, from through this hole. It's, It's. It's ready to breach. It's ready to pop out, and something is going to come on the other side of it. What, what do you, what are your thoughts on that?
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Adam Schell
Well, I would agree with that. I kind of, you know, it's unknown, but I hope so, and I hope our side is on the victorious end of it, because it seems that we're at a breaking point. So look, for me, okay, I have. I have two ways that I look at conspiracy, okay? For years I've known about the, what I would call the conspiracy of, of confluence. So my shitty, greedy idea goes to the World Economic Forum or the Bilderberg Group or some secret society, and it meets your shitty, greedy idea, and we can make an even bigger, shittier, greedier, worse idea. It's confluence. It's a coming together and coming together, and pre Covid and pre Epstein's Island. That was my belief system. I've always known about the kind of the single origin standpoint that there's either one or many single origin points where these shitty I greedy ideas are orchestrated, organized, thoughtful, and maybe it's been generations and eons. Now, I've known about that for years, but I always ascribe to the theory of confluence. But after Covid and Epstein's island, where like you gotta just look at what's the truth. Like the global elites get together and they do fuck children like right, like holy shit. Like that's a real thing. And then they get protected by our court system and by our government and by our institutions. And then 208 nations of the world got together and knowingly and willingly, at least at the highest levels, introduced a bioweapon into their society and their people. So I don't necessarily know what makes a human, but I can clearly identify what is non human. Now, I could perhaps be so angry at you, or you could be so angry at me that you would want to murder me, or I would want to murder you, but I would never have the capacity to be so angry that I would want to murder you, rape your children and then contaminate your blood so your blood is not human anymore. So that means that you and your offspring now have alien foreign, non human DNA in your body in perpetuity. That to me breaches an understanding of what makes us human to poison our shared sanguinity in perpetuity. So that organ donation, blood donation, it's all been ruined. Like, and then what you do to children, if children aren't sacred and if protecting children isn't like inherently the masculine and feminine priority of our existence. We protect our young, you know, that's what we do. If both those things have been breached, something is getting unleashed in this world and something unhuman. Yes. And I think what happens and the vibe that you're talking about is where, you know, I. The human in me connects and identifies with the human in me. You and I know we're on the same page. And the reason why I'm not vibing with this person over here is I'm afraid something non human has been introduced into them. And so we can't connect anymore because we're not necessarily the same species. And if we. And this is why I love your shows because like Gary Wayne and the Nephilim shit is like bringing me back to some semblance of understanding of what really might be informing that is driving non human alien behavior in our human realm and why we feel certain connections with people and why we immediately know we're not connected to somebody. Could it be that they have had so much non human DNA and non human thought introduced to them that we can no longer connect to them as a human being because they're not. There's something other. So. And you have to unfortunately look at Covid and Epstein's island with that level of clarity. If. If somebody got Covid wrong and if somebody got Epstein's island wrong and they haven't gone on the grandest, most honest cathartic apology tour like that person, that institution is just not to be trusted. They are not to inform upon your life in the. In the biohacking and wellness world. You might be brilliant. I call, I refer to them as glorious narcissists. They might have exquisite educations and all kinds of established papers and writings and so forth, but like, if they got Covid wrong or they weren't courageous enough, or they weren't courageous enough to speak openly and honest about COVID like I keep them in a very small box.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
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Adam Schell
You know, and I'm not making any decision for my well being and my family's well being based on anything they say, because the demarcation point of the time we live in, they got it wrong. And honestly, it wasn't that hard to get it right. Like.
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David Lee Corbo
Well, right now we have. Fauci just came out and he's. He's doing the whole damn thing again.
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Top Lobster
He's.
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David Lee Corbo
He's talking about there's a coming pandemic. Like the respiratory highly contagious, might even be another coronavirus. And so that'll be a really good instance of like, if you got it wrong once, you can't really be. I'm not tossing you out. But you. I cannot consider your opinion anymore.
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Top Lobster
The problem is that it was like after a couple of months, maybe even like, let's say up to six months, people that got it wrong. I understand there was a lot of misinformation. It was a lot of panic propaganda.
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David Lee Corbo
It was a big machine. It was a big coercion against you.
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Top Lobster
There was a point where it became courage rather than knowledge. Like it was fairly obvious to everybody that like, oh, we've been lied to on whatever level you can figure it out. You can figure out you've been lied to. For me, it was like on almost everything, you know, to go into the map behind you, Adam, it's like we've been lied to. We have to really readjust and look at this thing. But, you know, it was just the courage of Speaking out. And the people that didn't do that, I, I do the same thing to them. I was actually when the one time that I was on Tim Cast, I had made the point about. For some reason, he wanted to talk about the Daily Wire the entire time and Steven Crowder and Jordan Peterson. And I just told him straight up. I was like, these people got this thing so wrong. Do we as a society, should we continue to allow them in and let them talk to the masses? And he's like, oh, well, well, my contracts with the deal. I was like, whatever, like you didn't get it. But here we are a couple years later. This is. That was like 2022 or something like that. A couple years later, you know, the Daily Wire is falling apart because they did get it wrong. And I think, like, that, that, that recompense is finally coming for them. It's a little bit late, right?
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David Lee Corbo
But it can buy more years of influence after that. You know what I mean? It's, it's, it's. It's been a lot. I don't know.
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Top Lobster
But yeah, I wanted to, I wanted to kind of like switch the subject because I feel like we've been talking about spirituality a lot. But I got some questions for you about your product. So I took you off the screen. This is your lineup, and I. You have a. So there's four different types here. And can you, like, tell me. So you have Genius, the black, but it's the black stack, feel good, and Athlete. So I mean, it's fairly obvious what they're for, but, like, what are, what are the differences and how does that even work?
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Adam Schell
Great. Okay, so just so everybody knows, we keep the secret ingredient off the website and off the packaging. So we read like a nootropic Brain supreme proprietary mushroom blend. But trust me, that's the secret ingredient. We just keep it off. For obvious reasons, we keep that off the website. Psilocybin, in and of itself is the best nootropic in the world. Now, nootropics are the category of supplements that deal with brain performance, neurocognition and so forth. So psilocybin is the best nootropic in the world. It's going to turn your brain on and get you thinking and, and emotionally give you everything you could ever hope for in a nootropic. So all our products are highly nootropic. Genius is our most nootropic. Where we take traditional nootropics. L Theanine, L Tyrosine Alpha gpc. And we blend it with Our proprietary psilocybin that we created. Now Feel Good. We take are and that has 100 milligrams, so it's on the lower side of a microdose. Feel good. We take 100 milligrams of our proprietary mushroom and we blend it with adaptogenic herbs and nutrients and amino acids for mood, energy, heart kind of libido. That's our heart protocol. Genius is our head product. Feel Good is our heart product. And then athlete is 100 milligrams and that's blended with natural testosterone boosters. And both men and women need very healthy levels of testosterone and then cardiovascular and recovery support. So it's, it's our.
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David Lee Corbo
What are you using to boost the, the testosterone?
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Adam Schell
We use green tea extract, tongkat ali D, asparic acid, natural testosterone boosters, you know, organic. And everything that we do is like the highest quality, ethically sourced. We grow all our own mushrooms. So our key ingredient, we grow ourselves at our facility. We actually had a glorious mutation where we have our own proprietary mushroom strain that we've developed that we use for our product line. Black Stack is our extra strength formula. That's. And so Genius, Feel Good and athlete have 60 capsules each. So we're honestly, I think we're the most effective and the most cost effective and affordable microdosing supplement on the market as well. Because that secret ingredient does take quite a bit of cost to grow. Black Stack is our extra strength and that has 300 milligrams of active per capsule. There's 30 capsules in there. And then we juice that up with very high quality vitamin C, nano, curcumin and ginger. So that's our line and then you can stack the products on the website. I have a free coaching protocol. The great thing about having a brand is I sell product. I want people to buy my product. So knowledge and information I can give away for free, which is for me, spiritually, feels so much better because I never like to charge people for wisdom and knowledge. So that's the coaching course. It's free. There's eight relatively short videos. You'll literally learn everything you need to know about microdosing and our different protocols. In that course, you just give us your email, you get sent the link and then, you know, you click on the link and it's a download and it comes.
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David Lee Corbo
Oh, that's odd. We just lost him for a second.
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Top Lobster
He did well, when you went to the bathroom, his. His thing. Can, can you hear us?
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Adam Schell
Yeah, I'm fine. I got you guys.
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Top Lobster
Okay, good. Yeah. Your Phone, Sorry.
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Adam Schell
Sometimes when another call comes through and I turn it off, the last, the last, the last time we lost it for a second, but we didn't. So Black Stack is our extra strength formula. So the coaching, the coaching course is free and online and you'll learn everything. I recommend that most people like, use their intuition and start with genius or maybe feel good because those are, those were our two flagship protocols. And you're going to know from there. And my coaching protocol is very simple. A lot of people will make a very big deal about microdose coaching because they want you to hire them and they think it's a big deal. But it's basically like I said, it's a slightly expensive supplement that you should notice and there's no contraindications with any medication known in the world and there's relatively no side effects. The really the only side effect that I've ever heard from my product in 10,000 uses is that sometimes certain people in the first three days of microdosing will get a little sleepy. And that's almost always an indication of a little bit of dehydration because psilocybin is, it's neurogenerative, it's activating new neural pathways in your brain, and it's neuro regenerative that is getting old, dormant pathways fired in and up again. And so your brain takes more energy and more calories than any other part of your body. So when your brain is working that hard, some people, if they're dehydrated or they don't have enough good salts and electrolytes in their body, or they're a little magnesium deficient, you might get a little sleepy. I've never not been correct in this, that if microdosing makes you sleepy, it's usually going to go away in three days and increase your uptake of clean water. Add some quality electrolytes to your water during the day, maybe a little liquid chlorophyll if you'd like to help with blood flow and kind of cellular regeneration. And then add some quality magnesium at nighttime before you go to bed. I like a product called Bio Bio Optimizers Magnesium Breakthrough. It's got all seven forms of magnesium and that almost always cures it. The worst thing that happens with microdosing is for some reason there's a few outliers. It's not effective for you and you just spent some money and it didn't really work for you, right? Give it a chance and you kind of stay with it. We've literally got about a 95% success ratio. Not everybody reorders and goes on auto renewal, although we have a 30% auto renewal subscription rate. So one time buyers, 30% of them go to subscribers, which is almost unheard of in the supplement space. So we're doing very well.
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David Lee Corbo
Going to be. Well, I mean to, to, to the audience who's listening to this and top knows this about me. I literally don't do a show without nootropics. Oh yeah. And I'm going through like different brands right now. I, I have three that I'm just, you know, it's, it's a lot of experimentation for me. But I, he takes a nootropic, does.
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Top Lobster
A show, still retarded, takes another one.
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David Lee Corbo
But, but you know, my show is what I do for a living is this show. And my ability to articulate verbal acuity is huge. My ability to remember things and, and pull them up in real time.
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Top Lobster
Recall. Recall is a huge one. Yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
I know when I'm, this is how, when you do what I do, at least from my perspective, you get a really good sense of when you're on the ball and when you're not on the ball.
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Adam Schell
Yes.
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David Lee Corbo
When you're not on the ball, you go, oh, yesterday I, I ate Oreos. Is that, is that why, like, Lynn, I'm not even joking. Like it's crazy when I fall off my diet and I eat something crazy the next day. I'm just struggling. What is the word I'm thinking for likes? They fill the vast majority of what I'm trying to say.
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Top Lobster
Feels like my tongue is like bigger in my mouth. I'm like, what happened to me, dude?
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David Lee Corbo
So talk. I, I, every morning I may, I do black coffee, I drink a crap ton of water, I take my nootropics and I go to the gym so that I can get blood pumping. Because I think that has a lot to do with it as well. If you are somebody who whatever you're doing is more mental than it is physical and even there's room in the physical conversation as well. But if you need that drive, if you need that verbal acuity, if you need that ability for recall, like, I highly recommend, you know, looking into nootropics. You should be looking into, into what you're doing because I'm recognizing as you're saying it when, you know, I asked you what about the testosterone? And you said tongat Ali and, and so, so there's certain things that I've become familiar with and I see that you guys are, are doing that and then you're growing them in your own facilities, right? Is that what you said?
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Adam Schell
Yes.
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David Lee Corbo
So that's huge. You're not outsourcing that. That's. That's massive. You have control over the very foundation of your product.
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Top Lobster
Adam, is this a. Is this the type of thing that. Oh, damn, we lost him again.
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David Lee Corbo
I can't stand you guys. I have to leave.
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Top Lobster
He's getting very important phone calls, and we're just, like, disrupting them. I'll save the question for when he's here, because I think it's a. It's an important one, and he's probably going to tell me that I'm stupid for asking it, but I should ask.
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David Lee Corbo
Well, you deserve that, and that's fine. Oh, he dropped out. He's probably going to come back in in a second.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, this is. It's. It's one of these things because obviously people know my stance on, like. Well, my stance on mushrooms here, but this is something that I have considered a lot in the past. I just haven't really come across. Like, my cousin, that does it, he's like, yeah, just take a stem or take a little piece of this. And he's like, microdose. And I was like, that's not like a calculation.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah. Not a unit of measurement, Dog, that's you. I mean, I. I got kids.
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Top Lobster
I can't. I can't risk, like, taking something.
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Adam Schell
Sorry, guys.
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David Lee Corbo
That's all right.
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Top Lobster
That's right. I was just expressing. You know, my cousin, he gave me some. Some mushrooms and he microdosed it just by taking a piece. And he told me he was a kid, just take a piece. And I was like, I've got two small children that, like, if I accidentally take too much of a piece, I can't be tripping balls in my house. But, yeah, this is. So the product like this, that's encapsulated, that's giving me the grams that's going to be generally around how much you're going to be getting of whatever doses of, like this. It actually interests me.
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David Lee Corbo
Predictability.
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Adam Schell
Predictability. We are. We are remarkably consistent. And one of the things I talk about in the coaching protocol is, is demystify, familiarize, and personalize. So if you're. If you're newer to microdosing and you need some. You need some kind of hand holding. I have the coaching course, but it's literally, it's not that hard. So if you have any concern about my weekend and start with one capsule and just see how that goes for you. And then you're going to scale your. And we recommend that you start with the supplement protocol, which is five days on, two days off.
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Top Lobster
Okay, that's what I was going to ask you, Adam. Like when we're doing this, should, should you be taking days off or taking breaks in between? Or is this something that people just do in perpetuity forever?
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Adam Schell
Like. Well, for the most part you should, you should take some breaks so you don't. Because you will acclimate to it. But there are some caveats to that that I'll get to. So our, the starting protocol, if you're new to microdosing, is our supplement protocol. So five days on, two days off. Days one, two and three, just start with one capsule. And then you want to just scale your dosage up till you feel that sweet spot. And the sweet spot is perceptible, non intoxicating, non hallucinatory, but you feel some overall increase in efficacy in your life and work. And how you're going about 5, 10, 15, 20%, whatever it may be. Most people that happens between the 2 to 3 capsules or 2 to 300 milligram range of a microdose. But start on a weekend, start on a day off, and then once you're familiarized a little bit, then you might find it very good for the weekday. So when I do the supplement protocol because I'm a busy dad and you know, my kids are both super athletes, so coaching sports, long days, we train before school, even with them. So I'll do Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday I'll take two genius and then on Thursday and Friday I'll take two genius and one athlete. So I'll stack the two. So I'll scale from 200 milligrams to 300 milligrams over the course of the week. And that's a very. So you can scale and then as you get to. I never upsell people. Just start with one product because if usually if one product is going to work for you, all the products are going to work for you. So choose one that you just kind of intuitively feel the best. Start with that and do a full pack. So go five days in a row, take two days off, find your sweet spot. Some people like to take start to familiarize maybe on weeks two or three. Let me try taking one at 8am and another one at 1pm oh, when I took it at 1pm it was a little sleep disruptive. Or when I took it at 1pm I didn't have to go for my coffee in the afternoon. I felt better so start to start to familiarize yourself, start to personalize your protocol, and then go for like one full pack, about 25, 30 days, and then take five to maybe 10 days off. Let yourself reset. A lot of people notice microdosing in terms of an almost immediate honeymoon effect and increase. If you look at our reviews, they're remarkably consistent and very high. We don't edit them. You know, we have very honest feedback and reviews. So most people notice like an immediate honeymoon effect and immediate uptick in neurocognition and performance. Some people, it's slower. They experience the benefits of microdosing in terms of reduction of negative affect. So they won't realize over the course of the month what's happening. But they take their week off and they'll be like, God. On day four, the voices came back. I tried to sleep at night. And it's the worth, the lack of self worth, the condemnation, the guilt, the shame, it all came back. So you just have to kind of ease into your first pack, your first month long process and, you know, demystify, familiarize and personalize and you kind of figure it out. It's not that hard. And there's no real consequences. It's not a big deal. You know, start with one capsule scale up. Ooh, three was too many. Two is just right. Got it. Or. And it's not based on body weight, it's based on neurological needs. So my wife microdoses much higher than I do. She needs 400 milligrams to really kind of tune in and be sharp. She's 122 pounds. I'm 240. And I'm mostly between the two to, you know, two to three kind of capsule realm. It all depends. There's another protocol that I actually do more of these days, and that's called performance dosing. And so this is for. So what you want to do performance dosing is it's a one day on, two day off protocol. Or maybe it's one day on, one day off. Depends. I like to pair it with morning exercise. It's great for my athletes. They'll often do one training day and one practice day. And it's a slightly higher microdose, Maybe in the 3-400 milligram realm, about 35 to 40 minutes before you hit the gym. And it puts you into flow state workouts or flow state practice or game day flow state. And then the benefits of the microdose linger throughout the rest of the day and the next two days. So my two, two hardest training Days historically were Monday and Thursday. So I would take two genius and two athlete about 35 minutes before the gym. My workouts were flow state and then a really nice benefit through the rest of the day in the next two days and then I do it again. And this is a good protocol for people who like, maybe a little more type A. They want to feel it, you know, they, they kind of want to, you know, want to go for it or, you know, they know like Tuesday is a very hard workout and Friday is a big conference call at work that want to be sharp for, so you can kind of play around with performance dosing. And then we have peak day dosing where you're, you've demystified, you're very familiar with microdosing and now you're personalizing. You know what, I love microdosing. But when I do it every single day, I notice slightly diminished returns. I don't know if I need to do it every day. I fundamentally feel pretty good. But like, I know that on Saturday mornings we've got like, you know, I meet with my guys and we go for a trail run and I want to peak on that day and so I do peak day dosing or I know that, you know, Thursday is our big conference call at work. So you do peak day dosing. That's when you're using it more selective when you want to have peak days and you understand the, the dosage level, the number of capsules that you should be at. And that's really, you know, that's really how to go, how to go about it. Microdosing is a really good indicator of where your biological neurological health is. Like I said, if you get sleepy those first two days, it's almost always a sign that you're, you're dehydrated. You need better minerals, you need better water, better quality salts and some magnesium before you go to bed. Sometimes it can illuminate an area in your body where you're having some tightness and some aching. You're going to think about it more and oh, you know, that's, you know, so go to the chiropractor, go to the acupuncture. You know, maybe I need to start exercising or doing this. It has a really nice capacity of, of reducing negative behaviors. It's just interesting. People drink less. I hear about pornography, gambling. It just helps like decrease all of.
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David Lee Corbo
That toad on, on mushrooms.
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Top Lobster
We have a degenerate, degenerate gambler friend who probably needs like to take seven of these a day.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, probably should strap into a chair and just dump the pack in his mouth.
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Top Lobster
It's interesting because what you're describing is this thing that I've been doing and it's like there's a weird connotation. Not necessarily. There's a connotation with like, I guess morality is there. People, you say mushrooms and people immediately think this or that. But I'm doing this with caffeine, which is, it's a drug in its own. And when I do it, I'm doing the same thing. I'm like Celsius today and iced coffee today and not tomorrow. Because I know I need to do something. I need to be a little sharp a little quicker today. And it does work. But there are not just diminishing returns, but there is a, like, it's almost like a destructive manner. Like I, I can feel that when I do take this, there is a price.
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David Lee Corbo
You know, in particular with your adrenal.
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Top Lobster
Glands, which, yeah, I'm, I'm super sensitive to it. Like, it does work definitely if I'm not like over oversaturated with it and have like built up some sort of tolerance. But I know that there is a recompense to it.
- [89:30]
Adam Schell
And guys, can we call a 30 second timeout? Because the heating air conditioning person was supposed to show up at 2 and now they're texting me like crazy. So.
- [89:38]
David Lee Corbo
Yeah, yeah, go ahead. We're gonna bring this before landing in the next few minutes.
- [89:43]
Adam Schell
Yeah, okay, good, thanks. We'll just deal with this.
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David Lee Corbo
You know, it sounds like too that people would benefit hugely from actually knowing what their baseline is. So if you're going to do something like this, I would recommend cleaning up your diet, cutting out alcohol and things like that, and maybe, maybe even like getting a very simple, not too egregious workout routine going on. Because in order for I, I always noticed when I was younger and I started doing martial arts and I, I was doing it for a while and didn't lose any weight. Then I found that the way that I can lose weight was through my diet, that I could stay fat and work out really hard, but as long as I was eating trash, I was gonna stay fat. So what I ended up doing was like an elimination diet. And I basically reduced everything to like hard boiled eggs and you know, no refined carbohydrate. It's like a really, really simple diet. And what I was able to discern after doing that and getting used to that was I would then know how introducing something new would change my baseline. So I was just saying, Adam, to top that this seems like it would be hugely beneficial to also clean up what you're putting in your body and how you're treating your body so that you understand what your baseline is. Because a lot of people, especially here in the west with the. Our obesity epidemic and things of that nature, have no idea what it even feels like to feel good or to feel normal. So I just wanted to throw that out. There is like, if you're going to do this, you know, it seems like there's some real benefits in here. It would probably be very beneficial to even know what it feels like to not be on a bag of Cheetos and not have seen sunlight in three days. You know what I mean? Like, that would be a good place to start, is like, get that out of the way and then see how these things interact with you. It's an interesting time because these things are breaking through in a big way. And these studies are showing that there are some significant benefits to practices like this, like micro dosing and everything. And so in that way, we live in fascinating times where we're. We're still in the learning process of this. Although I would say we're still in the learning process of everything. They just realized that dietary cholesterol is actually good for you. And that not only.
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Adam Schell
I mean, we're in the unlearning process. We're in like, we're in the holy. We were so entirely wrong process or holy shit. You know, this was propaganda, weaponized propaganda and misinformation, you know, dating back to 1913 or whatever it was. I mean, we don't know. We don't know anything. We don't know anything. We don't know how. I mean, these, all these guys are coming out with like my lunch hour and these buildings, you know, like there's a whole new.
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David Lee Corbo
Oh yeah, my lunch break.
- [92:20]
Adam Schell
Yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
And they're any showing like these.
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Adam Schell
Yeah, I just saw this one about Olympia, Washington, where the guy's walking through the main city hall of the library and City hall of Olympia, Washington, and he's going through the building and he's like, this thing was built in 18 months. There were 4,000 people here. I mean, how.
- [92:39]
David Lee Corbo
My ass.
- [92:40]
Adam Schell
How? And like, how did we even believe this or not? Question this. Like, how do you have a 70 foot, you know, gothic domes that weighs three tons, you know, in this.
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David Lee Corbo
That was built during the dark ages.
- [92:55]
Top Lobster
Like these pillars beneath the great pyramids. And it's like, I. We haven't even done an episode because I'm like, I don't know, I don't know what to think about.
- [93:03]
David Lee Corbo
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know shit. But that's the.
- [93:07]
Adam Schell
For all that and not to be, not to be too self promoting, but like, as a guy who's like very much your active audience and listens to Tripoli and all those kinds of shows, it. Microdosing has helped me so much, man. It's such spiritual sustenance. It's just, just, it just raises your intuition, it keeps you on track. You know, you smell a little bit quicker, it keeps you. One of the cumulative benefits of 7 years of microdosing is what I talked about. This kind of etheric, very etheric human mycelial connection that I feel. But it's also authenticity. Like, man, if I'm being inauthentic, like, I know immediately and I just, I can't abide it and I've got a course correct or I've got to leave the situation that's kind of causing me to be inauthentic. So for me it's just been spiritual sustenance over this insane five years that we've been kind of going through.
- [94:07]
David Lee Corbo
Well, I'll be honest with you, Adam. Like I said, I'm very into nootropics. It's a fundamental part of what I do. And you have the added benefit of being the owner of a nootropics company that I've actually get to talk to and pick the brain of when it comes to this topic. And so that puts you at the head of the line. I'll be taking them and I'll be experimenting and we'll, we'll see what happens.
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Top Lobster
God damn it, I'm in. It's like, yeah, yeah, it's been, it's been a thing that I've been, like I said, I've been thinking about for a while, but I'm like, I don't really have a good jumping on point, but I do, I gotta try it. Because doing this show or just doing the things that I do, being a parent, I'm homeschooling. I got like another business that I run. I got no energy. And the energy that I am getting, like, I, I did try. I was like, let me smoke a little bit depending on. And I'm like this, it's just not what I need. Or maybe it was for like a little bit and then there's like this weird fall off and it's. You realize it's unsustainable.
- [94:59]
David Lee Corbo
Whatever the industry is doing to, to cannabis is like, right now, I'm like, this is. This is getting crazy. You guys are manipulating the THC levels to, like, astronomical.
- [95:08]
Top Lobster
Cannabis, coffee, whatever. I mean, you know, my. My body's filled with microplastics. It's like, dude, I need to figure out something to get just a little bit of an edge. Everyone's looking for a little bit of energy, a little bit of an edge if we're going to be bringing this product to the. The way that we want to do it. I. I guess I need to. I need to figure something out. So I'm going to try this. I'm going to try this product after. This is not a sponsored advertisement, dude.
- [95:32]
David Lee Corbo
I'll tell you what, though. I will actually.
- [95:34]
Adam Schell
I. I offered. I wrote you two or three weeks ago. I'm like, let me send you some samples before.
- [95:39]
David Lee Corbo
Did you really do it?
- [95:39]
Adam Schell
So. Oh, yeah, yeah. Lobster blew it. He screwed you.
- [95:42]
Top Lobster
My bad. Now you got a pace. Full price. Pay double.
- [95:47]
Adam Schell
David. No, I got. I've got. I've got a disc. I already put the discount code up. Nephilim NDS. I just put the discount code. So 15. It's already. It's already live, so I'll take anything.
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David Lee Corbo
Almost anything that will keep me from kicking myself in the ass after an episode. You guys have no idea how brutal I am on myself when I leave here after fumbling and dropping a bunch of words. I. I use euphemisms and. And sort of sayings, but I mash them together like two. Like, let's say it's. It's sitting under the shade of a tree or planting a tree. You'll never sit under the shade of. And. And building a boat as you fix it. I will say some crazy. Like building a tree while you sit under the shade that you'll never like. It's. They all just mash together. And. And when the show is over.
- [96:36]
Adam Schell
Staking the coffin nail in the heart.
- [96:37]
David Lee Corbo
Yeah, exactly. Everything. And the. And the chat. Listen to me. Listen to me, Adam. If. If. If doing this will enable me to have more than nine words that I use over and over again, if it will stop this, this live chat from making fun of me for saying in indicative again. And I can. I can now think of a synonym for indicative. It is worth its weight in gold. These people torture me endlessly, day in and day out. There you go. Tumultuous is. I think it's a word I made up, actually. I don't know. I thought the root word of tumultuous was turmoil, but it's not apparently. So I've been saying turmoil, chillis. I don't even want to talk about it anymore. It's very upsetting. So please, Adam, save me is what I'm asking you. If you could do that for me, I'd be endlessly grateful.
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Adam Schell
Yes. Hopefully once you start microdosing, it will be less tumultuous.
- [97:28]
Top Lobster
There we go.
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David Lee Corbo
All right, all right. Let's, let's. Let's bring. I want to respect your time, Adam. Thank you for coming on and talking about this. We haven't done an episode on psychedelics. Mostly what we do is we go, I don't know, you know, and so it was nice to be able to have more of a conversation.
- [97:45]
Top Lobster
Well, we talk to people. We'll talk to someone who's like, I took a heroic dose and then like an entity approached me and recruited me for war and upgraded me. And I was like, okay, it's one. It's one person. But there's. So there's a lot of people doing shit like this that's like, it's important to give it its fair shake and talk about it, you know, because this is a tool. This is a useful tool. It's put here for a reason. And, yeah, it seems like you're doing it correctly. So, yeah, I'm excited to order this stuff right after this episode.
- [98:14]
David Lee Corbo
One more time, Adam. Where can people find your work?
- [98:17]
Adam Schell
So BrainSupream Co is the website that's the best way to reach me, find out about our company. So many of the other podcasts that I've been on and the Brain supreme podcast can be accessed through that. And the coaching course, like I said, is free. If anybody has some real concern, you know, I'm available for private coaching as well. Not necessarily necessary, but if somebody has some real concern, you know, I do offer those services. But yeah, I. I respond almost immediately to every inquiry I get. I just use a voice to text or voice to email, so there are some kind of humorous abuses of the English language and punctuation, but I. I'm pretty immediately responsive. Our company is still small enough and fluid enough that I can give that kind of personal level of service and so forth.
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David Lee Corbo
So that's awesome.
- [99:06]
Adam Schell
Yeah, I hope you brains supreme co and just use the code NDS and you get a 15% discount.
- [99:13]
Top Lobster
Awesome. That'll be in the show notes when we republish it. We're gonna have to do a little bit of editing, but I hope. I hope your company gets to a point where you can't answer these. These plebs anymore.
- [99:22]
David Lee Corbo
And maybe you just, you no longer have to be the guy who answers them.
- [99:25]
Top Lobster
Just use AI to answer them.
- [99:28]
Adam Schell
Well, maybe I love answering what, what. You know, it's interesting as a small business. Like the energy and intention that people carry is so important. So I'm having some difficulty in the hiring process because I literally fill the pack still and I'm, I'm, I'm playing the right music, I'm in the right mindset. Like we even started putting these energetic stickers on the bag from a very spiritually tuned in guy who makes them, which has a way of not warding off EMFs, but converting the energy. He has a relationship with the Holy Father. And so actually we're so tuned in to trying to do the best work in the world that we possibly can that I've been a little bit limited in growing the company because the intentionality and quality of the person that I want touching the product, working on the product has to be of a very high level. So I actually want to be the guy that always returns the emails and does the talking and some of the other stuff. But I need to find the right person who I trust will kind of handle the product with, with the right energy throughout every aspect of it. Because my partner does an amazing job growing and I've got my one marketing guy and then I do the, the sales and, and shipping and so forth.
- [100:44]
Top Lobster
So we're still small and very fluid.
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David Lee Corbo
I appreciate that you're trying to cover the spiritual end of things, you know what I mean? Like, instead of just looking at this and, and trying because you could, there are people who could market this as just a cognitive supplement and not worried about the spiritual implications at all. But given what we know on this show on NDS about how those things are inseparable, you're not going to separate the spiritual implications from, from this sort of a thing or from anything in this realm for that matter. It's refreshing to hear that you're, you're concerned and working on that. That, that's definitely. That bodes well.
- [101:18]
Top Lobster
It's, it's also something like for me, I do a T shirt company. So it's nothing like what you're doing as far as spirituality, but like letting go of small aspects so that the company can grow is difficult in itself because you're like, I do it a specific way, like I gotta have it my way. And if you do it wrong, then the entire product, why do, why would I even bother selling it? So. But yeah, it's a struggle that I'm still working through. And if you have any breakthroughs on that, you know, let me know. Add me in the email chain to that. Yeah, sure.
- [101:53]
David Lee Corbo
All right, well, I guess that's it. Top. Do we got anything else?
- [101:58]
Top Lobster
No. Until, I guess, tomorrow. We'll see you tomorrow again with Clint. Yes. Don't forget to obey, submit and comply. Adam, thank. Thanks again, man. This has been fantastic, but thank you.
- [102:06]
Adam Schell
Guys so much, and I really love the show. Become a big fan.
- [102:09]
David Lee Corbo
I appreciate that, man. Thank you.
- [102:11]
Adam Schell
Thank you, guys. You're doing great work.
- [102:12]
Top Lobster
Awesome. All right, peace out, guys. We'll see you later.
- [102:14]
Adam Schell
The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. You can persuade people that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see because they'll laugh in the face of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening, and they have it.