199: Paranormal Encounters and Spiritual Revelations w/ Forbidden Knowledge News

Summary

Podcast Summary: Nephilim Death Squad Ep. 199 – "Paranormal Encounters and Spiritual Revelations w/ Forbidden Knowledge News"

Date: August 23, 2025
Hosts: TopLobsta & David Lee Corbo (The Raven)
Guest: Chris, Forbidden Knowledge News

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Episode Overview

In this episode, TopLobsta and The Raven interview Chris from Forbidden Knowledge News, diving deep into high strangeness, personal spiritual awakenings, psychedelic experiences, and the overlap between biblical, conspiratorial, and paranormal realities. They discuss Chris's path from corporate drudgery to full-time alternative media, his transformative spiritual encounters, the interplay between consciousness and reality, and controversial theories on military involvement in "paranormal" events, Skinwalker Ranch, and the dangers of spiritual and physical contamination.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Chris's Journey into the Conspiracy & Spiritual Realm

• Background: Grew up Catholic but left the church; maintained a deep interest in the teachings of Christ.
• Turning Point: In 2012, amid personal crises, rediscovered a passion for the paranormal and conspiracies, launching the "Forbidden Knowledge News" platform after failed attempts to engage friends and family in such topics.
• Accidental Beginnings:

  “I never expected to do any of this… it was all, I think, by accident." – Chris (06:39)

• Initial Rejection: Lost friends and faced familial disapproval for his unconventional interests.

Spiritual Awakening & "Contact" Experiences

• Catalyst Experience:
  • Early 2020, dissatisfied with corporate life and personal health, Chris took a meditative bath, listened to 432Hz tones, and experienced a voice that felt distinctly "not him."
  • The voice made suggestions for spiritual and physical cleansing, including quitting pharmaceuticals, changing diet, and preparing for a coming upheaval (hinting at COVID-19).

  “…a voice started speaking…there was something different here, and it was coinciding with this feeling of love that I'd never felt before...a voice, beaming love, telling me that they deliver the message of Christ consciousness to those who are ready to receive." – Chris (12:46)

• Skepticism & Testing: Repeatedly asked the voice if it was “of the Christ” and tested its guidance by observing positive changes in his life.
• Transformation: Quit job, moved to Colorado, started full-time podcasting.

  “I quit all the pharmaceuticals...I also quit my job within six months..." – Chris (18:40)

The Role of Psychedelics

• Psilocybin Healing:
  • Voice encouraged the use of mushrooms for trauma healing.
  • Large "heroic" doses prompted intense personal revelations and recovery from emotional wounds.

  “...after each experience, something was healing. I felt better… even though I'd be confronting the most horrible traumas…” – Chris (22:45)

• Perspective on Entities: Ultimately believes the guiding "entity" was his higher self, a divine connection close to God, not an external being.

Tangible Paranormal & Energetic Experiences

• Skinwalker Ranch/Space Wolf Research:
  • Chris recounts visits to top paranormal hotspots, witnessing strange phenomena and subsequent negative energy at home, which he attributes partly to military technology and/or spiritual overspill.

  “I'm convinced it is at least 90% exotic military technology they're testing out there…” – Chris (25:19)

• Ritualistic Activity: Describes real-life Satanists performing rituals on properties adjacent to Skinwalker Ranch.

Notable Anecdotes

• Ex-Girlfriend Reptilian "Encounter" (40:00–48:20):
  • Under high-dose mushrooms, saw his then-girlfriend transform into a reptilian being and his home into a dungeon; ended by vomiting black bile and a "reset" of reality.

  “She grew like 2 or 3ft and shape-shifted into this reptilian monster… I run down to the basement… entire basement shifts into a dungeon…” – Chris (41:58)

• Aftereffects: Later noticed the girlfriend's manipulative behavior, attributing the experience to a deeper spiritual warning and potential self-exorcism:

  “What happened to you? That vomiting...when we speak to deliverance ministers, they'll often talk about a purging, a physical purging...black bile." – TopLobsta (48:07)

The Nature of Paranormal Experiences – Mind, Frequency, & Perception

• Perception Shapes Experience:
  • Repeated theme: Our fears, intentions, and beliefs “vibrate” and attract corresponding types of entities or experiences.

  “...our perception is going to heavily affect the nature of any given paranormal experience…what we focus on, manifests.” – Chris (77:35, 53:51)

• Military/Industrial Ties to High Strangeness:
  • Suggests abduction stories and some paranormal phenomena might be engineered through advanced tech or psychological ops for control or narrative seeding.

  “...military dudes involved standing in the corner, like observing things...to me that's a red flag..." – Chris (66:57)

Relationship of the Physical and Spiritual

• Mold, Parasites, Witchcraft, and Mental Health:
  • Extended discussion on how external toxins (black mold, parasites) can have spiritual and psychological effects, possibly acting as conduits or amplifiers for negative energies ("demonic" energy).

  “I have a friend...who claims to make contact regularly with a Sasquatch and a Dogman. After those experiences, he started having alien abductions." – Chris (72:51)

• Interventions: Sometimes spiritual problems require physical solutions (and vice versa).

The Teachings of Jesus Christ as Anchoring Belief

• Practical Christianity:
  • Despite psychedelic and metaphysical adventures, Chris returns to Christ’s teachings as the ultimate guiding truth.

  “Teachings of Jesus Christ are the way, the light, and the truth. That's the way out of this matrix…If that's a demon, my God, what a sucky demon." – Chris (33:51)

• Faith has given Chris stability, less fear, and fulfillment, regardless of what “the end of days” or conspiracy narratives predict.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Chris on transforming his life:

  “I have a much better understanding of what this is now...I thought I was talking to an alien. I had no idea, man.” (14:39)

• On testing the entity's intentions:

  “I questioned the same things. There were times where I would...think I'm communicating with a demon...But I've healed myself, I have better relationships, I treat people so much better...” (33:51)

• On spiritual warfare and the risk of ‘opening doors’:

  “Seems like he's engaging in a spiritual realm where there's a variety of things that exist...once you're no longer standing on the sidelines...other things are going to engage with you.” – The Raven (36:50)

• TopLobsta on Christian skepticism:

  “Some Christian people before, in the YouTube chat, were a little pissed off at what Chris is saying...But no, I just think that there’s more than one way to skin a cat.” (48:31)

• Chris on the integration of the physical and spiritual:

  “The physical side is just as equally important to address as any of the spiritual stuff." (99:34)

• On the Jesus ‘egregore’ and practical power:

  "The entire...realm of Christianity as it relates to the teachings of Jesus...is such a powerful energy that you can apply it to almost anything." (100:33)

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Documentary Spotlight: "Doors of Perception"

• Premise: Explores the idea that the contact phenomenon (UFOs, paranormal, spiritual) are interconnected, potentially manipulated, and deeply affected by human perception and psychological state.
• Featured Topics: Sleep paralysis, shadow people, skinwalkers, the electromagnetic spectrum, and the role of collective consciousness.
• Quote from Documentary Trailer:

  “What if it’s all of those things and none of those things? The entities, the intelligence that were just beyond our understanding…” (56:10)

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Chris's spiritual encounter story: 06:39 – 18:40
• Psilocybin and trauma healing: 20:10 – 23:22
• Skinwalker Ranch insights: 25:19 – 27:38, 87:18+
• Reptilian ex-girlfriend story: 41:58 – 48:20
• Nature of spiritual voices and discernment: 53:21 – 54:07
• Documentary Trailer: 54:55 – 57:35
• Military and ‘manufactured’ paranormal: 65:03 – 68:43
• Physical vs. spiritual attacks (mold, parasites, witchcraft): 89:51 – 99:34
• Concluding thoughts & Chris on faith: 104:00 – 104:58

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Concluding Remarks

Chris’s candid journey from skepticism to faith, catalyzed by both personal and cosmic strangeness, provides a bridge between the realms of conspiracy, biblical tradition, personal healing, and the modern mysteries of consciousness. The hosts and guest champion spiritual discernment, self-examination, and the centrality of grounding beliefs—particularly in the teachings of Christ—while remaining unsparingly open to the wild, the weird, and the unseen forces shaping our world.

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For more, visit Forbidden Knowledge News and check out “Doors of Perception” on Amazon Prime.

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[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

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[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

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[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

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[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Joining us today is Chris of Forbidden Knowledge News. Have you been on the show with me? I've been on Forbidden Knowledge News. It's a wonderful conversation.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Both of you have been on.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yes, we have been on. I don't know why I invite him, but I really enjoy talking to you every time I'm on the show and, and I said it's time to have Chris on, on our show. And at first he said no. Actually, yeah, he did say no and I blame him. I get it, I understand. But I promise it's not gonna ding your reputation. And he said if it doesn't ding my reputation, that's fine, I'll come on the show. So he's here today. Chris A Forbidden Knowledge News. Before we start, where can everybody find your. Your work, brother?

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Before we do that, thank you gentlemen for having me on. Looking forward to getting super weird today. You can find all my shiz on my website, ForbiddenKnowledge News. I'm all the, all the podcast platforms you can find. Forbidden Knowledge News. My films one that was just recently released, Doors of Perception is exclusively on Amazon prime. And my previous film Occult Louisiana is available on Tubi Roku channel and multiple other streaming platforms forms. So that is where you can find me.

[Top Lobster]

We gotta ask you how you even do that.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Wait, look at, look, that's me in the bottom.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

There he is. There he is.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I was on the show. You know, I really enjoy Chris because he's a guy that works his ass off.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

And I really appreciate that about him. We were just talking to XG the other day and it's another guy who works his ass off. And like, it's refreshing to see people not just like, you know, kind of calling it in, like, that's not what's happening here, you know, Chris and Forbidden Knowledge News. You're, you're, you're busting your hump and you're making a lot of content. I want to, I want to get into your documentary, but before we even do that, I want to know how a guy gets into not only this, this content creation, this conspiracy realm of content creation, but then also decides like, you know what? This is where I'm going to plant my flag and I'm going to build here. What? What, what got you doing that?

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

It is a crazy, convoluted story, but I'll try and condense it down and break it down for you guys. It was really all, I think by accident. I never expected to do any of this stuff. I. First of all, I'll preface everything I'm going to say with sorry if I piss off some Christians tonight. But it's probably going to happen.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

This is a Christian show. We piss off Christians all the time.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

All right, well then I'm in the right place. So it all started around 2012 when I was in a very bad marriage with my, my ex wife and I was lost. I had some nephilim demons swimming around in my brain for sure, man. I was on prescription drugs. I was on all kinds of drugs. I was fat and just not interested in anything, man. Just I was working my corporate job. I was making, you know, decent money. But I thought that's what life was about, you know, in my childhood, I Was super interested in all this stuff. I was super interested in the paranormal and the occult and conspiracies. And I grew up Catholic. I was terrified of the Catholic religion. So I checked out of that at a very early age. But I always kind of kept near and dear to my heart the teachings of Jesus Christ, because I. I always felt intuitively there's something to this. This is. This is the way to be. But, you know, by the time I was in my teenage years, sex, drugs, and rock and roll took over my life. And I completely forgot about all those teachings. I completely forgot about anything that I enjoyed in life, basically, and just started going through, you know, the motions. But in 2012, I was going through a divorce and just lost and had no idea how to make. How to make anything out of my life. You know, I was doing this corporate job which was making me money. I was surviving okay. I was actually making pretty good money, But I was miserable. And I just. I started to. First I started at YouTube, and I was like, you know what? I used to be interested in the paranormal. I used to be interested in all this weird. Let me see if I can just immerse myself in this and forget about my troubles. So that's what I did. But I got super immersed into it. I got sucked into conspiracy land. Back in the golden age of YouTube, when you could find all the wonderful conspiracy videos, I was deep in it. Then I started buying books from my favorite authors, and I started trying to talk to my family and friends about it.

[Top Lobster]

And that was first mistake.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

That's where you went wrong.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Yeah, that is where I was. This was in, like, 2013, dude. And, like, nobody was talking about any of this stuff. And my family nearly disowned me. I lost almost all my friends. I was in a second marriage at this time, and my wife was, like, just about to jet out the door. Well, ex wife now. She did jet. So it was. I was kind of by myself in this realm, and I didn't know what to do about that because I had all this information bubbling up inside me and I had to share it. So started a YouTube channel. It actually started as a Facebook blog, Forbidden Knowledge news blog. And I just started writing about all this weird. And people started following it, and I felt stupid because I knew I wasn't smart enough to convey a lot of these topics. So I'm like, I gotta interview people. I gotta, you know, get. Maybe get people on and do a YouTube channel. Start as a YouTube channel. And God bless Charlie Robinson. He was one of my early guests. He came on and he's like, dude, you gotta turn this into a podcast. And I'm like, what the is a podcast? So he explained everything to me. He hooked me up with my now producer, Corey Hughes, and we. He already had a few podcasts under his belt. They were like crypto podcasts. No one was doing really conspiracy stuff at the time.

[Top Lobster]

So we converted it crypto podcast, like back in 2012 or something like that.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

It was like 2014 when he. When he. When I actually started the podcast podcast. I was doing the YouTube channel for a couple years that grew. Converted to this podcast in about 2014, 2015, and it actually, you know, started taking off. But like, I didn't know how to convert this into a career, how to make money off it. I mean, we weren't making but a couple of maybe a hundred bucks a month off of what we're doing. Had no idea how to do it. And that's when I had my first insane, you could say spiritual experience, even maybe contact experience. It was in. It was okay. So I was doing the show for a while. I was doing the podcast. It was kind of popular. It was picking up speed. Didn't know how to make money off it. We're on all the podcast platforms. Then 2019 ends. It was the very beginning of 2020, and Covet hadn't really reared its ugly head in the way that we are all familiar with at the time. But again, I was going through another bad, you know, bad time with everything. I hated my job more than ever. Even though I was doing the show. The show was like my only reprieve. I'd come home. It was the thing that I love to do after my show. Talk to weird people and then back to my sucky life. You know, at the time, I'm still doing pharmaceuticals, drugs, just not living the right way. Didn't. Didn't even consider anything spiritual. But I started to do spiritual shows at the time. Started to talk about meditation, all the woo woo stuff. And I was like, I need to do something, so maybe I should meditate, man. Maybe. I don't know. So I did. I started meditating, very unsuccessfully for a long time. But this one night in 2020, you.

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[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

I Came home, and I was just so frustrated. I. I was talking to some guests on my show before about meditation techniques, and I remembered one of them recommended putting on 432Hz tones in the background while I do this. And not only that, I had this weird intuitive sense to get in water. So I immersed myself in the bathtub. I started meditating. I had the tones on. And this is when got weird. A voice started speaking. And it wasn't like my normal conscious. It wasn't, you know, me talking to myself. There was something different here, and it was coinciding this feeling of love that I'd never felt before. I thought I loved my parents, but this kind of love feeling was like. It was so. It made me so emotional. I was, like, crying. I was like, what the is going on? What is this feeling? Felt like I was on some weird love drugs. And this voice starts speaking, and I freak out. I'm like. I revert to childhood dogma. I'm saying, in the name of Jesus Christ, are you a demon? And this voice is like, kind of lovingly laughing and saying, no, we are of the Christ. We're here to speak with you. I'm like, okay, so this voice, beaming love, telling me that they deliver the message of Christ consciousness to those who are ready to receive. And, like, I have a much better understanding of what this is now, which we'll get to in a little later. But I didn't know what. I thought I was talking to an alien. I had no idea, man. I'm like, what the hell's going on? Something is speaking to me, But I feel comfortable enough talking to it because I don't think it's a demon. And I'm like, all right, so what do you have to. What is going on? It's. And it's like, well, I've been with you your whole life, but it's time for you to listen because it seems like you're not too happy with your life. And I'm like, no, I'm not. And it said, well, all right, we got to work on some. He's like, you are getting into toxic relationships. The women you're getting with are awful, nasty women. You're not treating people right. You are on pharmaceuticals. Let's start with all this first and see if we can heal some childhood trauma and get you on track, because you're never going to be successful as long as you keep living the way you're living. I'm like, what the. Like, this is things that I didn't want to Hear. Because at the time, my dumb ass wasn't considering cleaning up my life or, you know, stopping pharmaceuticals or eating better or doing any of the. That this weird voice is recommending in my head. And I'm like, you know, all right, whatever. And the conversation lasted, like, two hours. This voice then continues to tell me the world's about to get weird, as there's going to be events happening that you need to prepare yourself for. And by getting yourself healthy and getting yourself into a better spiritual state, this is going to help you prepare for everything. Oh, and by the way, quit your job and do the podcast full time. And I'm like, what kind of events? They were speaking of the. The COVID events. I am. They didn't. It. They didn't get specific, but they said the world's about to change in a big way.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

It did.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

I don't think. It wasn't. They. It was this voice, and it said, you need to quit your job and start doing this podcast full time. And I laughed. I thought it was, you know, I thought it was funny. I was like, there's no way in hell, you know, I'm making, like, 70, 80 grand a year doing this corporate job. How am I gonna, you know, how.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Am I going off of this embodied entity? Do you not know that there's no money in podcasting? Are you unaware that. That there's zero money in podcasting? What are you talking about?

[Top Lobster]

Like, oh, no, I know.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Yeah, I definitely knew.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

But it was insane, man. I. The. Eventually, it was like the voice faded away. It was, like, flickering. It was like tuning to a station that you couldn't pick up anymore, and it was gone. So I'm. I'm, like, totally bugging out after this. I have no idea if I just had an acid flashback or if I'm going nuts, if I broke something in my brain. I'm calling people that I, you know, talk to on the podcast. Every. Getting every perspective from people who are spiritual, who. People who follow Christ, people who are into aliens. I'm, like, trying to get every perspective as possible, and I'm like, you know what? None of these are helping me. I just got to do this again. I got to see if this is real by trying to do this again. So days went by, tried, tried, tried. Never worked. Then finally, it worked again, and the voice came back even stronger this time. It presented me with a memory of, like, this extremely traumatic childhood event that I forgot about. And it was like, you see, like this. You got to remember this, and you got to work through it before you're gonna heal or be able to do anything. And it was like, super traumatic event. And I remembered it, and I'm like, what the. Started crying, and I felt like this weight lift off of me. And he's like, all right, this is step one. You. You're getting there. And it started explaining to me, you know, things that I should keep doing to make myself healthy and eat better and treat people better. And the voice was like, you know, I know you fell away from your religious beliefs because of fear and. And dogma. And it's like you can find a different path to Christianity without all the dogma. It, you know, went on to say that a lot of that is just pure mind control. And a lot of that is, you know, a lot of what we have, what we see in the Bible is pure gold. It is pure truth. But there have been a lot of things that have put in there for control. And it was a strange conversation about spirituality. And I was still not ready to take that spiritual route, but I was ready to start, like, changing my diet. And within a few months, I quit all the pharmaceuticals. This was such a profound experience. Like, I made these changes in my life very rapidly. I also quit my job within six months because for some reason at my job started getting so horrible after that event that it's like it forced me to do it. I got new managers that were complete dicks. The cus. Every single customer was pissing me off more than ever. And I was like, all right, so this is it. I took out my 401k and. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Can I ask you something real quick? Quick, Chris, So. So being into conspiracies as long as you were, all of that kind of crap comes up about the dangers of, let's say, like, the. The slop that they feed us through all these various corporations and everything. What do you think was the reason that you never looked at that angle? Or maybe you did look at it, but you never incorporated it into your life until, you know, at the behest.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Of this entity, I was looking at all of it. I was looking at alternative health. But at the time, I was just so lost emotionally and spiritually, and I had so much muck and trauma that I couldn't make that connection, that if I did that myself, my life might get better. And it didn't really click and connect until after I made contact with what this voice is. And I. You know, I'll tell you, I understand now that this.

[Top Lobster]

One more.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

One more question.

[Top Lobster]

I'm sorry, I might have Missed. You said, were you on psychedelics with no. 432. No, just 432 in water.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Psychedelics came later, but yes. This voice, actually the strangest thing, the. The second time I made contact with.

[Top Lobster]

It, it's like, not to discredit, not. I'm not trying to like, scrape at a story or anything, because we have. I'll tell you later, but very, very similar story, episode 15 of this show. Right off the bat, we. We've delved into this subject, and your story is almost like word for word, the same.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I imagine, Chris, you've probably. Your story has to have resonated with people to a degree where you've gotten that reciprocal. Hey, this sounds just like what I went through.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Oh, yeah, plenty. Plenty of. Plenty of times. Yeah. So I. I mean, I eventually came to the understanding that this voice is my conscience, my, you know, it's my higher self, me talking to myself. But it's a divine connection to myself, one that is closer to God than anything else. And I've tested this through years of, you know, talking with this thing and trying to understand. And in the beginning, it actually suggested that I use psilocybin to heal myself, to heal the trauma, because it would be a fast route to be able to do this. It'd be quicker than doing any other therapeutic, you know, types of things to try and heal the childhood trauma that I had built up. And it was so strange to me because the last time I'd done psychedelics, I was a teenager. Mushrooms scared the out of me. I was never thinking about going back and doing that again. But it was like, yeah, do psilocybin and you're gonna heal some. So I'd forgotten about that for a while. Eventually, I was able to quit my job, pulled out my 401k, and I moved to Colorado. I always wanted to move to Colorado. I was wanting to be in the mountains. I was in south Louisiana at the time, and it just wasn't conducive environment to creativity or anything like that. So I just wanted to get out of there. And when I moved to Colorado, realized that the magic mushrooms were legal there, and I started growing them, I was like, all right, let's see what. What this shit's all about. And I started doing very high therapeutic doses, and they were terrifying for very long time. But I. I felt that after each experience, something was healing. I felt better. Even though, like, I'd be confronting the most horrible traumas that I'd had, it would bring up memories that were so Lost and experiences that I probably would have never remembered otherwise. And just putting them in my face so that I could, you know, basically heal from them. And this was months and months. I would. I would do a high dose, about 4 or 5 grams once a month. And that went on for about two or three years. I no longer do the mushrooms because the final experience I had was the final chapter. It's all I needed. But you don't need to be ripped.

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[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

They help me heal so much, man. Like, I. I owe so much of where I'm at and my ability to communicate, my ability to understand things and my spiritual connection to God, how I treat people, how I take care of myself so much is due to my healing from the psilocybin mushrooms. And I noticed about, after a year of living in Colorado, like, struggling our asses off, not knowing if we'd be able to do it, one day we look at our revenue and it's like, damn, I can pay rent this month with this. And the next month's like, I can pay rent and get a hamburger. So it just kept getting better and better. And that's like, you know, this is, you know, I can't deny that what happened to me with those voices wasn't a very powerful metaphysical experience and to basically lead me on my way. And that basically opened up many doors of understanding. And it also opened up a lot of trouble for me because I had so many possibilities of what this realm is, understanding the nature of reality, that it almost drove me crazy. But I was able to kind of pack everything together in last year, actually, through a series of psychedelic experiences, finishing my movie and some real life experiences that were pretty insane, like going to Skinwalker Ranch and, you know, witnessing some. Some pretty interesting things. But, yeah, we, you know, Ryan Burns?

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, we. I don't know him, but yeah, right.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

He was. He. Ryan was technically hosting the Moon Lake thing, but then there was high levels of. We were going to go to Moon Lake, but the entire event got canceled because of, you know, unsafe levels of radiation.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Yeah, I've known Ryan for a while. He came on my show a long time ago. We hit it off, and he has a ranch right next door to Skinwalker, like, literally right next door, called Space Wolf Research. And we went Spent a couple of nights over there for filming Doors of Perception. And man, it wasn't so much what we saw, but because we saw some crazy. But it was these stories that Ryan told us about some of the things that happened on the ranch that were absolutely insane. And we felt like we had a little bit of a hitchhiker that came home with us after because we had some extremely negative happening in our household, some weird things that we couldn't account for, things going missing. And like days later I found I had brought home a rock from there that I didn't. Didn't even realize I'd brought home. I put it on the table. Somehow it got in my bag. And we figure that's what it's from because once we got rid of the rock, did some prayers, things like that, it all stopped. But it was pretty insane. But the. That goes on there, I'm convinced it is at least 90% exotic military technology that they're testing out there, as opposed to like, you know, real paranormal type activity which does occur, but at a probably much smaller level than the exotic military weaponry that they're testing out there.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

It seems like if there was a, like a thinning of the veil or whatever is conventionally explained when it comes to Skinwalker Ranch, that if that was known to any degree that the military might have an interest in there. So it's maybe a question of chicken or egg or. You know, when you say that 90 of it is exotic military technology, what's the old explanation? Or the old quote is like any sufficiently advanced technology is. Is indistinguishable magic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I mean, I wonder, because it always seems to be this, this large overlap of mysticism and technology. And then of course, when those two things come together, the military seems to have some interest in it one way or another.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Well, not only do high level military personnel, aerospace companies, but billionaires and Satanists throw money at Ryan to go and just hang out on his land for a few days and do experiments and rituals and God knows what else. He has an actual Satanist that is renting a sliver of land from him that puts on a light show at night from a tent that he claims attracts the old ones. And the dude walks around in like this red hood and robe with this wand or something, and he's got these skulls all around his property. He's a legit, like, Satanist and he was, we were talking to him and he said that he had two properties that were legit, just blew up somehow. One was struck by Lightning One blew up from some unknown source. Two of his houses. Because he up rituals and whatever he was trying to, you know, commune with.

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[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

It wasn't too happy with him, so it supposedly destroyed two of his homes.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Let me. I want to go back a little bit, Chris, to this. This entity that was communicating with you. You said you considered it after some time and consideration to be your. Your higher self, a form of your own self that was closer to God. We, like top was alluding to. Had someone on the show episode 15. His name was Colin. And Colin was in a pretty destitute place at the time. Right? I mean, I think he was going through a divorce. He was. He was desperate, and one thing leads to another, and eventually he comes into contact with something, tells him to quit his job, which he promptly does. You know, he hears this voice and, you know, obeys it through some psilocybin use. He starts to have these encounters with these entities. And I think it's even at their request that he's doing the psilocybin, and.

[Top Lobster]

It'Ll, like, tell him where to, like, do it now. Meet me here.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

You know, that kind of.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

I never had any of that, but yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Well, I mean, in some ways, yours is. Is more amazing in some regards than. Than his. But ultimately, what ends up happening is he is one experiences an abduction scenario where he wakes up during it, and they. They tell him, number one, calm down. You've consented to this. You don't remember that, but you have consented to this. Number two, you're being upgraded for. For a coming war, which is like, there's this anticipatory event, right, that. That you're being prepared for one way or another.

[Top Lobster]

Diet is a big one.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Diet, Exercise. He's. He's running, he's lifting.

[Top Lobster]

Was your diet. I think he went. Did he go completely vegan or.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I don't know if you went vegan or vegetarian, but he did. There was a dramatic. I think you're right.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

I think I just stopped eating, like, you know, processed foods and basically.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah, yeah. But it is interesting because now, obviously, you don't need an entity to tell you that. If you listen to Joe Rogan, he's gonna go, like, I don't know, dude, maybe you should eat some.

[Top Lobster]

Well, who told Joe Rogan that?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Oh, who told Joe? He's right. John Silly or John C. Lilly float tanks and doing dmt. But, but it's interesting because there is this aspect of like, cleaning up your life. And, and I think you probably understand, Chris, unless you have the experience yourself, it's reasonable to be like, highly. Like, even if it's telling me something good, I'm like, what are you. What's going on here? What are you getting? I'm like, I'm a skeptical person by nature because. Or else I wouldn't be a conspiracy theorist. Right? I've been lied to enough is what I'm getting at, Chris. And, and, and so I, I'm always looking at these things like, I wonder, like, okay, here, let me ask you this. At any point, was there any. Was it all good or was there anything that. All of it was good.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

All of it. Now the, The.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

That was the same thing with Colin. All of it was good, too.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

This is the thing I had. I questioned the same things. There were times where I would go. I'd even go like a couple of months thinking, man, I'm communicating with a demon. This thing is trying to, to, you know, get one over on me just because of the, the topics I was interested in at the time, the, the people I was. And that's where perception, my film Doors of Perception, comes in. I believe our perception, whatever we're focusing on, is going to manifest in our life in a big way. So, you know, going through all those worries with this, this being, I would never, you know, I'd always be like, you know, questioning, are you of Christ? In the name of Christ, I demand you tell me if you're deceiving me. And it would just be like, come on, dude, what this again? You know, it's just such a loving, like, you know, you don't have to worry about this. I've been, I've been talking to you since you could understand words since you were a baby. You just didn't have that separate identity that this is your conscious or this is your higher sel. It's always just been that voice in your head that says, don't do that, stupid. Don't be mean to grandma. Don't. You know, it's. You're. It's the way it unders. It explained it to me is everybody has this thing and they can choose to listen, they can choose to ignore it, they can choose to think it's a demon, but it's always going to be there, it's always going to be talking. Now you, that you test it by the, the fruits, by what the information and what is coming out. And I've tested it over and over again and what it has come out of it is I've healed myself, I have better relationships. I treat people so much better. I have a relationship with Jesus. I talk to Jesus and God all the time. I say prayers, dude, like I am living by Jesus's teachings to a T because I contact, I made contact with this thing and it encourages, you know, prayer. It encourages talking to Jesus, it encourages having that type of belief system. Because for the longest time I, I didn't have any beliefs. I was everywhere. I was like, this could be a simulation, this could be this, this could be that. Now I have the understanding that this is God's realm, that the teachings of Jesus Christ are the way, the light and the truth. And that's the, that's what you follow. That's the way out of this matrix. That's the way to, you know, to redeem your soul is to follow those teachings. Everything else might be a bunch of muddled, but I don't care because I focus on that. And that is what gets me from point A to B in my life from the morning to night and through the next day is that's where it all led me to those teachings of Jesus Christ. And if that's a demon, my God, what a sucky demon.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

That's, that's like when people say like, oh, Jesus is actually like a. Just a fabrication by the Jews. And it's like, well, if you look at what Jesus, why did he oppose.

[Top Lobster]

Everything they were doing?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Well, not even just that. It's like, oh, so their, their plan, their master plan was to get everybody to live in a way that if we all did, everything would be infinitely better. Right? Like that's a, that's a. Why, what a. What a plan. What a trap.

[Top Lobster]

By the way. Red heifers apparently have been.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I just see it's like they keep going back and forth. It's like, oh, they didn't. I saw one that said it was an article that came out like a week or two ago that said all of them ended up being non viable.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

And now another one came out and it's like they did it under the.

[Top Lobster]

COVID of night and there's a lot of misinformation. But some dude was on Tim Cass, take it or leave, and he's like, I got a bag, he got a bag of ash. He says it's from the.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Oh, it's red.

[Top Lobster]

He. For ash.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

They had broke it out. He did a line on the table.

[Top Lobster]

They showed a video of the ceremony. I was just like, hey, dude, I don't know, but whatever.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Well, well, listen, I want to ask you one more question on this. On this topic, and then I want to move on to your documentary. But before we do, we're.

[Top Lobster]

We're. I kind of. I kind of wanted to say, don't.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

We want to kick out these filthy.

[Top Lobster]

Pores before we do.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Okay, fine.

[Top Lobster]

I wanted to say that, like, it's. It's such a strange one, because our friend Colin, my. Our friend Colin, same experience, same sort of thing. He's dealing with these entities and they're giving him great advice. The guy gets in great shape. Same kind of thing, like going through a divorce. This guy has cleaned up his life now. His relationships are much better. Something happened, though, along the way. Like, so he's. He was using psilocybin to contact these entities. Got to a point where it was, like, no longer necessary, I guess. The door has been, like, kicked wide open.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah. Didn't they say, like, hey, stop. Stop showing up here? It's like, doing the psilocybin.

[Top Lobster]

They're like, no, you don't need to do that anymore.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

And.

[Top Lobster]

But. But he wasn't in contact with just one. Like, he named a couple of entities, described a couple of entities, and then he got into some, like, weird abduction stuff.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

So it's like. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Seems like he's engaging in a spiritual realm where there's a variety of things that exist. And now it's not just the good ones that are. Which. Which makes sense. It's like, once you're no longer standing on the sidelines, you're now engaged in something, well, then other things are going to engage with you. You're not. You're not what's. You're not stagnant. You're not neutral. You're picking a side. Right. And therefore maybe the other side has an interest in tweaking you a little bit.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

I think there's an ecosystem out there. And I used to think this was total metaphysical BS when people would say, it all depends on where you're vibrating, you know, how high your frequency is. If you're vibrating at a high frequency and you're vibrating with love, you're going to only attract, you know, the higher vibrational beings. I used to think that might probably be us. But after, you know, having experienced other entities, like you were saying, trying to communicate with me. I never, you know, I never engaged. I never really, you know, would go out and try and channel beings. This one thing that I understood is my higher self. You know, just. It's a part of me. So I wasn't seeing it as I was, you know, communicating with anything external. Although that has happened. There have been other things that have kind of communicated with me. But I've never really, you know, engaged in full on conversations with these things. And that was always when I was you know, tripping, had under the psilocybin experiences and things like that. But the. I can tell you about one crazy story where my ex girlfriend shape shifted into a reptilian.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Okay, okay, wait, wait, wait, wait. You can't tell us about. Don't tell us about your lizard X yet. We have to. This is, this is Top. This is, this is paid tier story time stuff. These other people have to get out of here. All the disgusting pores get. Guys, if you're not a disgusting poor and you want to prove to you say you know what Raven? You know what Top? I'm going to show you. I do have money. Well then go over to patreon.com backslash forward/netflam death squad and use that money because you know what? I don't believe you. I think you're a liar.

[Top Lobster]

All right, all right, all right. Enough plugging. All right. That's perfect.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Okay.

[Top Lobster]

All right.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

So moving on man. You're. You're. You're. You know what? Just take it away. Take it away from the beginning. What do you mean? She's, she's a lizard.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Okay, I'm not saying that she is an actual reptilian, but we'll, we'll kind of ex. We'll. We'll pick apart everything as we go. But I have to tell you the story for you to understand. This was about three and a half years ago. I was, I am now happily married to the most wonderful woman in the world. We never argue. It's the most beautiful relationship I've ever been in. Before this though, I was dating and I was still doing the horrible relationship thing. This was my final frontier. Like getting with shitty women is. Is a problem for me. So was a problem. So this was actually a fan of the show first red flag that reached out to me and she was hot man. But you know, she reached out and she. We started getting together. She lived close by and we eventually decided be mutual, mutually beneficial if we got a place together. And yes, mistake number two. I. I must have been like completely Blinded to what she was all about, you know.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Did she ever try to like have input on the show? Like, you should do this, you should do that.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Yes. All the freaking time. Yes.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

That's funny.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

So one day, this was during the beginning stages of my mushroom psilocybin journeys. I was, you know, I was growing them at the time. And she is one of those, she self proclaimed psychic healer people. And she says she's never done psilocybin mushrooms before, but she'd love to try them with me. I'm like, cool. All right. So I dosed her a couple of grams. Nothing, you know, that would hopefully not freak her out. And I dose and you know, a few like 30 minutes go by, I'm in it and she's not. And I'm like, okay, let's just wait two hours go by. And she's like, no, I feel sleepy, not feeling anything. I'm like, what? Like that. By then we had given her five grams and she's not like, these are super mushroom. And she's not. What the hell is wrong? What is going on? Yeah. So like she's like, nope, nothing. So we're having this conversation and eventually what she's saying sounds not right. It's getting weird. So I look at her and she says, you know, I found you a while back. I, I helped you get where you are now. And I have this feeling, I just have this feeling, you don't love me anymore. When she said that I you not. She grew like 2 or 3ft and shape shifted into this reptilian monster. Dude. She had yellow pointy teeth, yellow eyes, and she was still wearing my ex girlfriend's 90 is like six foot tall, reptilian.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

How many, how many, how much, how many mushrooms? Because I've, I've taken, I took about 5 grams, okay? Because I took about 5 grams and.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

This has never happened in my life. I've never had a hallucination like being.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Close to seeing that at all. This was around expanding and breathing a little bit.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

That was about the extent for me. Never. Yeah, this is. But it gets crazier. She shape shifts. She's like, you don't love me anymore. I'm like, what the. I take off, I'm running, I run down to my basement and I look back and I see her. She's be a big lizard woman chasing me in a nightgown. I'm like, what the. I go and I lock myself, throw.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

A dildo at her in Tokyo, dude.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

I lock myself in the basement. And this is when really Falls apart. My entire basement shifts into a dungeon, bro. I have bars on my windows. I look outside, the sky's blood red. I'm like, what the is? I'm like, okay, I'm the first person that OD'd on mushrooms. I'm obviously.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Can you like, like, is it. Can you see the reality underneath it? Is it.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

No.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Is it perfectly tethered? A perfect overlay?

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

I'm in a different realm, man. I'm like, dude, dude. It is terrifying, but I'm still in my. I can still, like, navigate. It's my house, but it's different. It's totally different. I go back up, there's like cobwebs everywhere. There's. It's like a dingy john dungeon every go. Everywhere I go.

[Top Lobster]

Have you, have you ever heard of, like, the. The mother horse eyes? It's like a long Reddit. Oh, yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

There's like a mother horse eyes kind of a thing, right?

[Top Lobster]

Well, yeah. I mean, in part of it, in the mother horse eyes cabin, where the kids go, there is a room that is a basement, but it's also a dungeon.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

It's a dungeon, right? Weird.

[Top Lobster]

It's kind of weird. Strange overlap.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

But that's interesting.

[Top Lobster]

That also has to do with like, it's like the LSD realm. Check out mother horse eyes.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Oh, you'd love it, Chris. You'd love it.

[Top Lobster]

It's. It's a red horse.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

It's.

[Top Lobster]

It's a 10 hour listen, but it's like a Reddit post that the guy has posted in different subreddits. And it's a cohesive story. Great story.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

It is gripping. It is gripping, and I got that grippy. Like, I think it's real. But look, I just want to say for the audience one more time, like, if you've never done mushrooms, like I've done mushrooms, I've done five dried grams. That's supposed to be like a heroic dose. You don't get. I didn't get, like, I engaged in a conversation with my buddy's mom for like a good hour, and she never knew I was on mushrooms. Like, it is a manageable experience. Unless maybe you get like, you know, you start to go to a dark place in your mind, but nothing.

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[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I'm just saying, like things maybe looked a little bit more vivid. The world was maybe a little bit more beautiful in its way. And there were some strange, you know, visual hallucinations. Like the ground kind of expanding and contracting like it was breathing. You have some visual acuity, you know, really get dialed up. But what he's talking about, that is not your run of the mill. That's not a normal. That's like an ass.

[Top Lobster]

What was. What's really happening.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

That is a wild level of, of I. You know, hallucination feels like a stupid ass word. I, I tend to agree with Chris. You were in a different realm, homie.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Felt like it. And like I said, I thought I. I didn't know what to do. I sneak back upstairs and somehow I managed to avoid the six foot tall reptilian and a nightie. And I sneak into my bathroom and I'm like, I lock the bathroom door. I don't know what to do. I turn on the shower, I jump in the shower and like water's just pouring on steaming hot water. I'm like, I start praying. I said, God. And as soon as I said, God, please, this rumbling in my stomach and I puked up this black viscous. I don't know what the it was. And then I hear this voice say, no, you're being deceived. And like everything just snapped back. I'm not in the dungeon anymore. I'm in my bathroom. Everything's like actually beautiful and bright and shiny and I feel like this powerful, loving presence in the room with me. And I'm like, what the. I open the door, I look out and it's my ex girlfriend again. She's not a lizard. She's sitting on my bed like, what the is going on? And I'm like, I don't want to talk about it. I just, I went grab a bottle of wine and I just went upstairs and locked myself in the upstairs and I'm just drank until I passed out. I was like, what the happened?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Did you ever tell her like what you.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Well, here's, here's what happened the next day. I explained everything and this is, this is where I'm at with it. After the following days and weeks, I saw a different side of this woman that I hadn't seen before. You could say a very cold, manipulative, reptilian side of her foot tall side of her. No, she, she didn't shape shift anymore. But she was such a. After like she was trying to, I even caught like trying to steal Money from me, like all kinds of that. I, I don't know if I just didn't see it before. Where I'm at is maybe the mushrooms were trying to tell me something about this lady and it all manifested after the fact, like she was a cold hearted reptilian. Even if she wasn't a reptilian. That's what she started. That's what started coming out and I had to, I had to cut it off. I'm like, man, that's what that was about. Either she's a reptilian or she's got some reptilian energy that I'm not supposed to be with here. I think those mushrooms saved my life with that one.

[Top Lobster]

I mean people have some, some passengers, some dark passengers. Sometimes I think that. What, what happened to you? That vomiting of, of this black bile that you're talking about. When we speak to deliverance ministers.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Oh, that's interesting.

[Top Lobster]

They'll often talk about that. Like there'll be like a purging, a physical purging. So Laura Baker has mentioned it. I think Randy Goodwin also has mentioned. And it's black, black, black bile.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Get this. After this, I never got into a shitty relationship again.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Dang.

[Top Lobster]

You might have accidentally delivered yourself.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Yeah, that bad relationship demon, dude.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

That is very fascinating. That's fascinating. Yeah, man.

[Top Lobster]

I mean it's crazy that you could like, what's crazy is so a lot of people, obviously the Christian, some Christian people before, in the YouTube chat were a little pissed off at what Chris is saying.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah, but they're always pissed off every episode.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

They're like, these guys suck.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

But no, I just think that there's more than one way to skin a cat. So the instructions in the Bible, the instructions you're going to get at church or from other people who are within the Christian faith will tell you, well, here are the steps. And those are, those steps work to do some of these things. But we talk to a lot of people now who do this to themselves accidentally.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

And it's like there are like transmutable characteristics of things that you can do and then you'll get the same result.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Well, even, even me, it's like I'm sitting here. This is a Christian show, you know that Christian, Christian show. And, and, and I've been through all of that. I mean I came through what I guess is, would be best described as like Gnosticism, you know, and, and, and.

[Top Lobster]

Certainly when I met you and still.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Gay now, and certainly a lot of drug use. You know, I was, I was doing A lot of fun stuff. And you know, we don't advocate for it, Chris, only because it's like we don't know where people are in their lives, you know, but, but I don't think that. How do I, how do I say this? It's like I know people. I mean, much like your story here, you know what I mean? It's like, well, what, like you said before, what are the fruits of what you went through? You're living a life that is in alignment with Jesus Christ's teachings. You're. You're praying you're closer to Jesus and God, you know, than you have been before. You know, you treat people better. All these different things. This is a Christian show, you know, but there is an, an audience or, or I guess a type of character that really locks up and it's. I guess at the end of the day, it's like you, you're putting limitations on God if you think that God can only use, you know, the Christian church or the Catholic Church to put you through the process that he needs to put you through in order for you to be utilized by him.

[Top Lobster]

Well, I mean, it's like, it's, it's what a parent, that. It's the advice a parent would give to a child. Yeah, like, I wouldn't want you to go and, and get in the same, get to the same spot that I'm at, but like, do it through trial and error. I'll be like, hey, this is what worked for me. You know what I'm saying? Like, avoid this. Like, I was just telling you about our friend Colin. He, he did the same thing and had pretty good results. He's in contact. He was in contact with what he said was angels and things like that. Getting great advice. But now, like to this day, he's still going through a slew of paranormal activity. Like a, a lot of orb stuff. His girlfriend now is.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

They're eight foot tall. Lizard.

[Top Lobster]

I don't think so. No. But his girlfriend now is dealing with.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Like, she's having experiences.

[Top Lobster]

Like abduction type experiences. Yeah, not necessarily.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

But I do wonder. It's like anybody who, even if you go like, let's say you become a minister, right? Or something like that, like people will say like, yo, you're in the battle now. And when you, when you do that.

[Top Lobster]

When you decide, what are the rules? What are the rules? It's crazy. We don't, we don't know.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Yeah, that's one thing you're never gonna get the rules in this place, man, I think that was part of my journey, is just being thrown into the fire and making my own mistakes and just learning from them. And that's what it's been up until now. And, you know, like I said, I have no need to. To go back and do, you know, psilocybin or anything like that again. I don't even really meditate much anymore. I. You know, before I'm going to sleep, I can quiet down in everything enough to hear if I have to tell myself anything and anything important. And it's just, you know, people. You know, whenever you say that, it's such a triggering thing. You're talking to voices. I mean, everybody does. They just don't. You know, it's not. I somehow got the Got. Was able to separate it through a series of experiences and then reintegrate it to have a better understanding of what it's always really been.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

That's interesting.

[Top Lobster]

The talking to voices thing is crazy, too. I mean, our boy Frank just had on Jerry Marzinski, who will have on again.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I think you've had it on the other day. Yeah, Yeah. I love. Yeah. I'm so glad that he's getting, you know, such important information that he has to share with people.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah. I mean, obviously, he tells. He. He explains it way better than we can. We just, like, regurgitated stuff. But it's like, yeah, dude. Everybody has these voices. At the end of Frank's show, he really nailed it. He's like, I just want your audience to know everybody hears.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

These voices. The question is, like, if you are, like, you have to be aware of the one listening who's listening, because that's you. And everything else may not be. Most likely will not be. I think it's like, 80%.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah. I mean, I agree with that. I think we all hear him. It's just, how loud do we hear them?

[Top Lobster]

And then also is like, what came to you. It's an entity. But does this always have to be a negative thing? What came to Mary, you know, what came to most of the people in the Bible, the prophets. It was like, it doesn't always have to be a fallen one.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

And then ultimately, although it could be, when something does come to you, you know, we were given free will here. So you still have a decision to make in this.

[Top Lobster]

Well, you got to test it.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

You got to test it. Yeah. And then it's like, you know, if you feel as though this is a negative, you don't have to do what this thing says. That's a wild. I mean, we get those all the time, right? Where it's like you're driving down the highway and it's like, pull that wheel, dog. Yeah, all the time. Sometimes I. Sometimes I do. I go, you know what? You're right. And I go up. That wasn't good. Shouldn't have listened to that. You know, so. So, I mean, you don't always have to. Yeah, it's just a. It's. It's a weird thing because, you know, once again, just to reiterate, this is a Christian show. We draw.

[Top Lobster]

We're doing better.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

We are doing better. We're doing a lot better, but we draw a specific audience. And sometimes those. And sometimes those people, they get a little bit scared. And that's okay. It's okay to get a little bit scared, but like, you know, calm down. You know what I mean? Look, I want to get into this documentary.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah. Fear or not, Chris.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

There you go. Do not fear this documentary that you made it. There's two documentaries, but I want. I want to specifically talk about the. What was it called? The layers of perception.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Doors of perception.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Doors of perception. Yeah. Yeah. So. So what's the premise of that? How do you set out to. To make this documentary?

[Top Lobster]

What is it?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

What is it all about?

[Top Lobster]

Well, I see. Is this a trailer?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Could we.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

It is, yes. You can play the trailer.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Oh, dude, let's play that. That's great.

[Top Lobster]

Why are we going to listen to Chris?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah. Listen to the YouTube video. Unbelievable.

[Top Lobster]

I mean, might as well. Let's. Let's check it out. I'm interested.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

We can hear the nature of this experience seems to always be just beyond the reach of our science, technology and consciousness collective.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

This guy sounds a lot better. There's layers upon layers upon layers. DEZ adds such an element of mystery to this place.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Why are we here? We're getting closer to the truth now. There's too many people experiencing profound interactions with conscious entities.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I'm focused on the non human intelligence contact phenomenon in dreams. Dreams involve interactions with real entities.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

People are waking up paralyzed. They're sensing or seeing something very evil in the room. I have experienced sleep paralysis. Shadow people start to appear.

[Commercial Narrator]

I was taken from my earliest memories by non human alien entities. More and more people are wanting to.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Talk about these things.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

A ufologist would say, well, that's obviously an extraterrestrial. And a paranormal researcher would say, well, that's a ghost. Well, what if it's all of those things and none of those things, the entities, the intelligence that were just beyond our Understanding there seems to be something.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

A little extra that can take forms of anything.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I can't believe what I've seen, but.

[Epic Fits Advertiser]

It continues on a daily basis.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

We're definitely not alone.

[Epic Fits Advertiser]

UFOs, UAPs, portals opening up.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

I live with all this supernatural stuff. You kind of grow up with that around here. You see a lot of strange things. I don't like to talk about skinwalkers too much.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I had an experience with a skinwalker entity.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

People, they would say they would transform into bears, into wolves. There's these bad things that occur. Ghosts, UFOs, and all types of things coming from somewhere. Our beliefs, our emotions and our fears all seem to heavily influence the nature of these experiences.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

There is so much more that we just don't have time for in this.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Busy, loud, noisy life that we lead.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

All of this is planned. Everything is synchronicity.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

There's so much more out there. We really are picking up such a small, small percentage of the electromagnetic spectrum. The world is an amazing place.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

It feels like we're gods in training, man. I am schizophrenic now.

[Top Lobster]

I'm stoked.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Dude, that.

[Top Lobster]

I like that.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

That looks. That's not out yet.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

That is. It's on Amazon Prime.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Oh, good. I'm watching that 100 tonight. 100 tonight.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

I'm watching.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

That looks awesome, dude. Oh, my goodness.

[Top Lobster]

It's so great too, because all my favorite things.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

All my favorite. And all my favorite people too. Oh, my God. I want to just hang out in the. In a room of all those people.

[Top Lobster]

Vicky Joy.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah, man. Dude, man, I don't know. Before we get into the larger topic, I gotta ask you a question, Chris. Do you think that all these things are, like, coming to a head? Because that documentary trailer that we just watched was a summation of the last 10 episodes that we did.

[Top Lobster]

I mean, all the episodes. This is summation of our show, actually.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Basically, we're done doing the show now.

[Top Lobster]

We'll use it as our intro, and then we won't even do the show.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

We'll just play the documentary every episode because it's what it is. And then outside, I'll hop on, I'll go. Did you know politics is theater? I'll say that every day makes next, man. So, so, so do you think these things are. Are happening more frequently? Is, Is it coming to a head? Is it the, the, the. The awareness surrounding it is becoming exponentially larger.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

I think the awareness. More people, especially after 2020, started questioning the nature of reality in general. And it's like this huge affected the rest of the planet. And now we have people who were too afraid to talk about their weird paranormal experiences, their extraterrestrial experiences. Now it's okay because the government says that aliens are real. So now these people who have shut up about it and were too terrified to be judged about their experiences are all coming out and saying, oh, well, the government said it's real. They won't judge me as much anymore if I talk about it. More people are coming out talking about their experiences, and we're comparing notes because we have the Internet now. I think AI and a lot of the psychological operations are throwing. Trying to throw a wrench in that right now and causing confusion and people not to know what the. Is really going on. But the information is coming out. It's having an effect on people. I don't know if it's happening more, but I think there's more of a collective awareness of it. And when it does happen, it's getting more immediate. Immediate attention, if you know what I mean.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I. I understand what you're saying, and I wonder what you think about. You know, you engage with this phenomenon if you. Especially if you choose a side. It seems that, you know, both positive and negative entities will interact due to whatever degree we're aware of a situation that's, like, unfolding in Indiana. That. That partly is what our friend Colin is involved in. It seems that a lot of people in Indiana are having this, like, it's a vision or it's a dream. And these people are un. Associated with each other, but they are coincidentally, if you believe in that, in southern Indiana. And the dream or the vision is that they are going through a recruitment process. They're being petitioned by a negative entity. Seems like kind of a head honcho. Negative entity. I think one person even said that it. It described itself as Ball, which is interesting because Ball is sort of a.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Title story that Tony Merkel broke.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yes, yes. Tony's been talking about it.

[Top Lobster]

Story that we broke.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Well, look, Tony done a lot more work on it, but what I will say is I heard it from Tony first.

[Top Lobster]

So what. What happened is Tony, it's. It's funny. Tony had the. The story about. Is the guy's name Roy?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I forget what. The guy.

[Top Lobster]

Dark. It was like part of his Dark Dark Shift series. Yeah. And then he also has another guy that's in Indiana. It was the Predator episode.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Top Lobster]

Like a Hell's angel or one of those, like, biker club dudes that ran into the Predator, but also had this experience where he was proposed by well dressed entity shows him the girls, you can come here. But he's in some sort of underground cavern.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

He says no. And we get Colin. We start the show 15 episodes. And you know, 15 episodes, that's like, that's nothing. Yeah, we're almost at 200 at this point, but realistically we've done probably closer to four because we do like a lot of others. So just the main line and. Yeah, so we get Colin at 15.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

And the time frame was similar.

[Top Lobster]

It was, it wasn't even similar because Tony hadn't released that until like, later.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah, yeah. So Tony picked up on it. We released it as soon as we.

[Top Lobster]

We passed Colin along to Tony as well, because we're like, yo, this dude's in Indiana. And he interviewed him. So it's like now it's like this compilation of things happening in this, in this.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

So our, our research is over. Over lapping with Tony's. But, but, but we say this is a Christian show, but we say choice words sometimes. And so Tony goes, well, you know, and I don't blame him. And I don't blame him because we're terrible. We're terrible.

[Top Lobster]

And also this show's not. It's not necessarily about the experiences of these people. We do a show like that where we just read them, but obviously Tony's is like, you know, interview based on these people that have these experiences. That's a hard show to do.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

It's a very hard show to do because it's predicated on, you know, the listenability of your guests. And your guest is just some dude that went through something bizarre but could be rough. So, so my, my question is like, because I, I know what you're saying at the top of the show, or maybe it was even before we started the show. Chris, you said you don't necessarily agree with this idea that, like, we're barreling towards some sort of end times. And, and I can see even how there's like an engineered effort to make us feel like we are. And I could also see the usefulness of that, that narrative if you really are engineering that and weaponizing that against people. However, there does seem to be something that's. That's coming. And you know, if you're looking at Blavatsky or, or what's the other Alice Bailey or any of these people that are saying, oh, well, 2025 is going to be this, this new age.

[Top Lobster]

Who's that other dude? Now there's a, there's a third or fourth person on the, on the Horizon that Izzy told us about. I forgot his name.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I don't know. Oh, oh, oh, the guy that's supposed to be the new Crowley. Yeah. We should have wrote his thing down. But we said, that's fascinating. I want to talk to him. And then we went, never mind. Anyway, even. Even. What's her name? Baba vanga. This idea, 2025, we're going to, you know, chop it up with aliens, you know, put that wherever you want. But when you put it into conjunction with this idea that, like, yeah, there seems to be a great awareness of these things happening and also maybe a recruitment process in the subterranean cave systems of southern Indiana. And. And these people. What do you. Wait, what are you saying?

[Top Lobster]

Right, but it's like. But we have.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

That's cool, right?

[Top Lobster]

We have corresponding evidence of people that don't know each other that are giving us the same. Not the same story, but, like, very close to the same story. We're like, all right, well.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Well, I'll tell you where I'm at with it. And this is just consideration. This is just possibilities, because I have no idea. But I talked to a lot, especially I used to talk to a lot of people that claim to be involved in the quote, unquote, secret space program. Now, they claim to, you know, at times. At times be taken, you know, against their will, and they either are projected into a clone's body that on a different planet where they go and fight aliens and all these incredible stories.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yes, but I have had even a realm that's like Narnia esque.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Yes, but I've had people on that explained to me that they claim to be. Have been formally involved in these, and they claim to know what's really going on, which is a complete mind control operation, that these people are being implanted with these false memories of these realms and implanted with memories of extraterrestrials and being abducted to perpetuate this UFO narrative that is emerging right now. And what better way to do that?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

If you.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

You have people that believe their stories that have actually been immersed in crazy situations with aliens, and they believe it wholeheartedly, but in reality, they were maybe just being, you know, injected with drugs or who knows what kind of technology they have nowadays to get people to do this. I was talking to Vicki Joy Anderson about this very thing. She thinks people's dreams are being hacked for this very purpose as well, that people are being taken to these realms. She takes it to the extreme of maybe they're even being groomed by gay aliens to be gay in the future. There's some crazy possibilities. Yeah. She says that they're, they're. That the younger folks who are experiencing sleep paralysis will have these sexual encounters with like same sex beings that are repeated, you know, frequently. So that's a whole different weird thing. But another reason I look at the possible like, you know, military industry and industrial involvement in some of this crazy alien stuff is because there's so many people that when they tell their abduction stories, there's like military dudes involved standing in the corner, like observing things. And so, yeah, to me, happened with.

[Top Lobster]

Colin, this is one of the things he's.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Yes, dude. To me that's a red flag that's like, that says there's something else going on. And if we're, we're on the, if we are on the precipice of anything big, I would think it has to do with AI man.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I, I would say there's a, I.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Think AI is the aliens that we should really be worried about right now.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

And like, you know, Karen Wilkinson says that she saw those like flesh suits of alien grays just kind of pile in a corner. It's like to me, I go, okay, we're talking like a biomechanical apparatus. And then who's, who's building them or who was commissioned to build them? Are we building them? Are they our craft? Are there's a spiritual component? Sure, but like, are we building them and are we building the grays? Are they coming out of dumbs or something like that? Like, you know, like deep underground military bases? A lot of these craft are seen coming in and out of the ocean. There's that strange structure off of the coast of Malibu, California where it looks like pillars. There's like giant columns.

[Top Lobster]

And it's been removed recently. Recently, hasn't it?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

From Google Maps. Yeah. And, and so, you know, you start to imagine maybe these things are coming in and out of the ocean and maybe there really is this, you know, operation where they're creating these creatures in these deep underground military bases and then using them. Maybe a spirit can inhabit them, maybe they're just automatons, whatever. But like over and over again that element of military personnel is involved. And, and so for me to, you know, be able to, and I won't, I refuse to just jump to this idea that they're space travelers or anything like that. Like they're in an intimate working relationship with human beings on a military intelligence level. So what the hell is this? I'm kind of leaning towards these days cooperation. Well, not just cooperation, but like we made them.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Maybe there is something like, historically speaking, human beings will be commissioned to create things. They'll be inspired to create things by spiritual entities. Is it the same thing that's happening now?

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Yeah. I. I talked to Ryan Burns about this the other day. He said that there's this genetic facility in the Uintah Basin that people speculate chimeras escape from that they're creating with, you know, genetic experiments, these werewolves and Bigfoot beings and crazy chimeras that sometimes may escape from these facilities. And that might account for some of the like crazy cryptids and stuff. But going back to the military.

[Top Lobster]

Wait a second, before we go back to that, we have another unfounded conspiracy.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Unfounded claim, Highly speculative. Low information.

[Top Lobster]

Very low information. No, but the idea of like the Canadian wilderness right now and state parks in America that are flying the flag upside down. But we know that they're finding people up to $28,000 in some cases that have stepped into the forest in certain parts of Canada. Like the more will. Like wild parts of Canada.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Top Lobster]

So.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

And there's this idea that there's a program. I don't know if you've ever heard of this program. There's only one schizophrenic guy I can find talking about this and he seems to be a fake account liar. But I. That's where I get all my information from. And so there's this program called Edan, which is a playoff of Eden. And it's this idea that there are these creatures being created in deep underground military bases. There used to be a CIA funded feeding program for them called Meals on Wheels, which is where they would just feed them human beings for whatever reason because that's convenient. But that. Those that sort of dried up, not convenient again.

[Top Lobster]

It's like if it, if they're. If these entities.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Man meat taste best.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah. I mean maybe there has to be some sort of sentience to who knows, who knows what.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

They got to torture them, they got.

[Top Lobster]

To drink their adrenochrome to their sustenance would actually make sense for. I'm just saying we're just.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Whatever man. This is all the truth. Right. So. So. And. And that at some point this Meals on Wheels deal kind of dried up and.

[Top Lobster]

Well, it's not, it's not even at some point. The crazy part is that it would track when you're.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

You're talking about what the, the mercy and everything that.

[Top Lobster]

No, no, no. It's not even. It More. More like geopolit politics or politics in general. After Elon. After Elon Musk sort of cleaned it up with doge. I forget the name of the organization. It's not a pack. It's a different organization that funds basically everything. And once that was. That organization was cut off. You'll. You see a lot of these, like the branches basically withering away.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Or if you look at the whole QAnon thing, help me out. The idea that sometime after 2020, like, so many human trafficking rings were busted up and broken up that their supply ran low. Which is why, Chris, you know that joke goes on running every time some usaid.

[Top Lobster]

Thank you. Forbidden Redbeard.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah, Forbidden Redbeard. Crushing.

[Top Lobster]

USAID is one of those feeder programs to like, I mean, hundreds.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

Of that. They. They like to say, oh, it's. It's a money laundering, but it's not necessarily a Democrat op. This thing goes into Republican programs as well. It's just dark programs that get. That get funded through USAID that's been raided by doge, which is kind of run by Elon Musk. And now that's dried up. So if you're. If you're looking at some of these agencies that have lost funding, which a ton have. Maybe, maybe, maybe so also, again, just to add more fuel to the fireworks, we're out of Afghanistan. So the poppy trade there and the things that we were doing there, those black operations are now dead. And we, like, we got out of there in a hurry too. We left a whole bunch of stuff behind. We're like, we just got to leave.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

But so if all that money was going towards feeding Chimeric Goatman, just maybe, maybe now at some point you go, all right, Goatman, I get that you're hungry and you're cranky and go, go on. Then go to the.

[Top Lobster]

Go to the self dog.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

And then David Polites goes, all these people are missing, you know, so. So what I'm saying, Chris, is that's true, right?

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

100%, dude. I don't know. It's because I have a friend in Louisiana that was a major subject of my first film, Occult Louisiana, who has regular encounters with a Sasquatch. He. His first experience, he went out into the woods and he saw through the scope of his rifle not only a Sasquatch, but he claims there was a Dogman chilling with the. A werewolf and a Sasquatch chilling together.

[Top Lobster]

Not uncommon.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I think I've heard this story. This might be the same story.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

And he looked through the. The scope of the gun, and then they started to telepathically communicate. The werewolf Was like, I'm gonna come over there, rip that gun out of your hands and kill you. And the Sasquatch was like, nah, you shouldn't do that. He's not, he's not harmful. And Scott freaks out and you know, exit the woods. He turns back to look and see and there's like four, eight foot tall hairy creatures following him out. He claims to make sure he makes it out of there, but after that it like cracks open his perception. He's having enter his house at the middle of the night, leaving Bigfoot footprints looking through his window, telepathic communication from weird things. And then it. All of a sudden, last year, he's being abducted by aliens all of a sudden.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

So always together. This is once again Nathaniel Gillis the phenomenon. Right. It just takes the, the appearance or, or is it really like a, like a bunch of beings or is it one thing that can just masquerade or. But these things, it's like remember when Bigfoot was just a big footed, you know, and now he's with aliens and.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Orbs and he said he saw little tiny Bigfoot creatures that would come out of holes in the ground as smoke and then would form into a physical being. What the is that? I don't know.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

It's really hard to deal with. I like to think that I can think of all kinds of. And I go, I didn't have. I just, I looked up because I was like, where do I plug that piece in? And I just don't have a piece to plug that into. I mean, I know the smoke thing, right. You'll see that. Especially like I had a demonic encounter and he was, dude was, you know, he was all covered in for effect. Yeah, well, it was, it was effective. He was covered in like a black swirling smoke.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Man.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I just, I don't know. I.

[Top Lobster]

Think the smoke is like, it's like, like, well, it's part of it because metaphysically we have to do. Or they're just like.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Well, think about plasma. Yeah, I mean, not plasma. When, when. What do they do when you, you have a seance? Everybody holds hands together.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Oh, the ectoplasm.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Ectoplasm, Right. It looks like an organic smoke. It moves like smoke, but it's almost like a tangible. It's almost closer to a liquid. And, and these channelers or whatever in, in this is. You see this in like a haunted house in Ohio or I forget what the hell. The name of the haunting in Connecticut I think is when they, they show this on. In a movie when the channeler is Channeling. It starts. Ectoplasm starts to come out of its. His nose, his. His mouth. I. I don't know if it killed him in the movie, but. And that's supposedly based off of like real events. But there are these old accounts of these people who are having these spiritual encounters or they're channeling spiritual encounters. They're speaking. The spirit is speaking through them to the individuals at the table. And ectoplasm is present. It's coming out of the individual who's speaking. And, and it looks, it resembles smoke. One of those things that doesn't really come up in conversation anymore. Ectoplasm.

[Top Lobster]

I think it's been kind of made comedic by like Ghostbusters.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Top Lobster]

Slimer and stuff like that, which also. Listen, Dan Aykroyd, he knows what he knows. What's up, dude? Yeah, I mean, I was, I was just scrolling through Netflix and you see like cone heads. I'm like, this guy knows.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Yeah, he's like super into UFOs and stuff.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah, that's what I was just gonna say. Yeah. Yeah, he's very into the paranormal.

[Top Lobster]

I mean, I think he does a great. We need. I wish we had like a modern day Dan Akro. I mean it would be Tim Dillon, but like making these sort of movies because he's introduced, he introduced these concepts to, you know, the general public and it's, it's done in a very funny way. But Ghostbusters is a banger. Coneheads is one of these movies that lasts forever and it's just kind of. But it tells you the story of what this is.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I got to give this to. To Z man.

[Top Lobster]

Mostly pissed.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

If you get it. You get it. That's a very funny man. That's very, very funny. He's one of the funniest. I hate him. It's mostly piss. Oh my God. Okay, so. So let's, let's get back into this, this documentary. I mean, is there anything else you could, you could tell us about it?

[Top Lobster]

Where do what. What sort of.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

What did you learn throughout the process?

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

I learned that I don't know about, but I, I mean it's. I learned that if I could take away one thing, is that our perception is going to heavily affect the nature of any given paranormal experience if the way we perceive things may manifest a certain outcome during these experiences. I have spoken with people who have immersed themselves in, in things like this with, you know, high level individuals, you could say, like Ryan Burns. I was telling you that he has billionaires and people come out there with all kinds of equipment and something called an angelamp, which basically it recreates a psychedelic experience using some kind of technology that emits these waves, you know, within a certain distance. But he's having all these people come out to his property and do these experiments. And he tells me about him sometimes. And they are required to leave any, you know, negative baggage at the door. They can't come in there with any, like, negative thoughts or feelings because that will manifest into whatever they're doing. If everybody's like, you know, cool and what you would say, vibrating high, all the experiences will be positive. So that's something interesting that, you know, I kind of came away with, although I don't know really what it means. But another thing is a lot of what we understand as paranormal has been weaponized, and it goes back to the military industrial complex. I will never be the same after what I saw at Space Wolf Research Center. As soon as it turned dark at night. First of all, you see the UFOs shooting across the sky.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Just like that, huh?

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Yeah, it's. Dude, they're everywhere. Like, I have never seen so many things that I can't identify just zipping across the sky at night. You know, some of them were planes, some of them were satellites. But much of the stuff, I had no idea what it was. Then on the mesa, you see these lights manifest that get real bright and white, and then these little dots shoot out of them. Like some. Like a portal's opening and something is shooting out of the portal. Well, while all this stuff is happening, Ryan goes and gets night vision goggles for us. And he says, just look around at the landscape. We start looking around, and there are people, like, shadows of people walking around all over the place, shining these purple lasers. You can see the outline of rifles or some of them. It is black ops teams surrounding the area shining these lasers at us, shining all this equipment at us. Who knows what they're doing? He says they do all kinds of exotic testing on people that just come out there to observe the phenomena, that they're actually testing exotic weaponry on people just going out there. Yes. All over.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Don't ask, dude, how are. What are you gonna do?

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Go like, yeah, what are you gonna do? He's like, I can't do anything about this. They're. They're, like, always here.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Team six, dude. And they're say, like, hey, you can't sign that on my property.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

But, yeah, apparently a lot of the things that people are witnessing. I'll give you an example. He said that his friend Was attacked by these nanobots. These self assembling nanotechnology that at first was a tornado. It shape shifted into a coyote and then shape shifted into this. All he could just say was this monster creature that took one of his friends and lifted him off up the ground and pinned him against the trailer. This is self assembling nanotechnology that he claims is from our military that did this isn't like a ghost or. Or demon or anything. He said this was legit military technology that did this because he said he's seen it before. He said he's seen like this being tested.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Do you think that the. The area has gotten such a reputation for high strangeness that it creates a veil of like plausible deniability? So you can 100 operate there, do whatever the hell you want. Because it's skinwalker ranch, baby. And weird happens here.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Yeah, I mean weird does happen there. You get the skinwalker stories all the time. I don't know if you heard Ryan's recent appearance on Sam. Sam's show.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Where he talked about those three dudes. Well, he told me that story too. Where you know, these three guys were. Had canine features, they had eyeshine like canines. They were leaping over fences unlike any human could ever do. Next day they're found with gunshot wounds. I mean, you know, there is some very unexplainable crazy that happens.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah. Just for the. For the audience. It was like those guys or they weren't really in a. In a guy form. Right. They were in this like they were.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

In semi guy form. They said that they all looked like, you know, they. They did. Didn't have but like shorts on. They didn't have shirts on. They looked mostly human. But when they looked at them, you could see canine eye shine. And they all moved in synchronicity. Like they all sat down like dogs at the same time and they all got up and leaped towards them and started running like dogs on all fours at the same time. So just super creepy. But he claims that they're the members of the Ute tribe are doing these rituals there where they can project themselves as like animals by using, you know, some kind of black magic ritual in the pelt of an animal can do some crazy like that.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah, that's like. So when they. When they found these guys dead in their trailers, which apparently were separated by like roughly a half an hour each, their trailers were filled with like all kinds of pelts from different animals bones. And it was clearly they were doing some sort of rituals. But even the pelts Themselves were like, you know, you could have got. Done some jail time for having certain animal pelts there. It wasn't like a legal thing that you could poach. And these Native American guys just had a gang of them in their, in their trailers and then.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, interesting that they would, they would eat the bullets, even though they're kind of like a astral projecting into the world.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

He says he could go both ways. He said sometimes it seems that there's actual people shape shifting into different creatures. They're physically out there and appearing or shape shifting into different beings.

[Top Lobster]

We've heard that.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Apparently that's a thing.

[Top Lobster]

We've heard that on, on Merkel's show as well. Although that, that account was a little strange. The. The guy who said he was dating.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Merkel holds to that. He understands how strange it was. And I think the guy just, you know, you're asking average people to come on and tell an extraordinary experience and then try not to slip into some weird, weird ass way of describing it. So, so Merkel says as far as he's concerned, that was, it was. It was a true story. But yeah, you're dealing with the skin Walker is one thing. No, you're dealing with. It was like lichen. Right? That's. I guess that would be the terminology for actual werewolf people, which, you know, sounds insane until you keep hearing testimony after testimony after testimony and you go like, I don't know, man, is there. Is there something here? And it. I'm to the point now where I'm like, why not?

[Top Lobster]

I mean, yeah, maybe. Where do these.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Chris dated a lizard? Yeah, dude, why not?

[Top Lobster]

I mean, Tila Tequila was a little. We were talking the other day about it.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I don't know if she was a lizard.

[Top Lobster]

I think she was.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

You keep saying Tila Tequila was a lizard, and I don't, I don't.

[Top Lobster]

Well, the story, like I said, the story was that Billy Corgan was sleeping with her. That's just. It's just.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Who told you that? Are you gonna keep your sources to yourself?

[Top Lobster]

I don't remember the source, so I'm keeping it myself.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

That's fine.

[Top Lobster]

But he did tell the story on Logan.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

He did.

[Top Lobster]

Where he was sleeping with somebody famous. And then later on I hear that it is Tila Tequila and at the point of orgasm, mass slips and he sees lizard person.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Yeah, right on.

[Top Lobster]

Like a nut. Yeah, Just comes off her face and then comes on. Or no, you know, this is a Christian.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

This is a Christian show. I'm sorry and I won't again. I promise not to do it again. I won't say that anymore. You know what? I did hear? The same thing happens with Crohn's, right? So a crone will. Will lead you into a sexual encounter, and then, you know, when it's. When it's time to, you know, finish. Finish.

[Top Lobster]

Mm.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

All sudden, she's like.

[Top Lobster]

It's something about the sexual. Yeah, the sexual energy, like, the transfer of it where just like.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I just, like, time to show. Well, you know why? Because you're not gonna stop. Like, that's just. They know.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

It's time to nut.

[Top Lobster]

You've come this far.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

You come pretty far.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Oh, man. So, you know, now makes me thinking, looking back, I might have. I should have taken advantage of that while, you know, while she was still in that form.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I mean, you know, eight feet tall is.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

It's an experience, man. Strong.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah. He's like, while you're there, put up this picture.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I've had this picture. Could you. Would you mind? I've got this furniture to move. You gigantic. I almost did it. I almost swore, but I didn't swear because this is a Christian.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Whoa.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

What happened? Oh, don't worry about it. We're good. Never mind. We had a little electrical thing, and this. You know what? That. That was God being like, there's a Christian show. You got to stop doing that. I want to ask you. You said that you had been. You've been to Space Wolf.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Yes. Spent the night over there.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Are you. Are those days behind you? Are you still interested in doing that sort of thing?

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

I don't want to go back there, man. I really don't. Like. That was probably enough for me. It's things that I can't control like that. It's just, you know, I'd rather be in a safe, spiritual space than put myself into spiritual danger, basically because I felt that negative energy the whole time I was out. It's this weird, kind of foreboding, oppressive energy that you. Makes you want to look around your shoulder all the time. It just feels like something's watching. It was. It wasn't. It wasn't too fun, but I don't know if I'd ever go out there again. But I have to tell you, the. One of the craziest stories Ryan told me, and this is as legit paranormal as it gets. The Satanist guy who was on his.

[Top Lobster]

Property, just gonna ask about him. Like, I was like, this guy has something more here.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yes.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Does he? For some reason, was staying in the main tree, and Ryan's main trailer for a week or so. I don't know why, but when Ryan gets back, he had these sigils painted inside his trailer all over with this black substance that he couldn't identify. When he goes to clean it off, and it's not coming off with water, it's not coming off with soap and water. It's not coming off with anything. He tries all kinds of different chemicals. This is not coming off. Well, one of his Ute tribe friends comes over, and this guy is a member of a U tribe, but he's also a Christian. And he says, the only thing that's going to work on that is holy water. And Ryan's like, so they go to their local church, they pick up some holy water. And he said as soon as he splashed it on there, it, like, evaporated in this, like, mini explosion. And that's all they had to do was throw holy water on it, and the sigils disappeared.

[Top Lobster]

A lot. A lot of questions here. This is Ryan still renting to this guy?

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

As far as I know, yes.

[Top Lobster]

That's retard. I like him. I like. I like your style, but it's crazy.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

A hefty security deposit.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, dude, listen, you. If you put, like, sigils on my wall, that I got to take off with holy water, you are out, dog.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

You got to go.

[Top Lobster]

You're gone.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

That's the crazy. You know what's interesting is that that black goo, not only does it show itself in, like, you know, purges.

[Top Lobster]

What. What did you vomit up, dog?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

That's what I was saying. Yeah. But it also shows itself. So I was. I was talking to Jamie Henshaw Dyer and somebody.

[Top Lobster]

Have to have her back on. We do have to again, as well.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

So there was, like, a. An interaction. She was getting in with somebody, and she said, what if demonic, like, possession or things like that. I'm paraphrasing terribly. Is actually just, like, black mold. And I said, what if parasites and black mold are actually organic conduits for negative spiritual energy? Negative conductors. Like, maybe there's something about it. And then she said, like, ah, that's it. And she dropped an episode on me. She had, like, a whole episode. I didn't watch it because I'm rude, but something crazy. What's that?

[Top Lobster]

So right where we're sitting, actually.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Oh, good. That's great. Here we go.

[Top Lobster]

Demons right here. No, no, like, right here. There's actually a beam that's holding up the. The wall because this was a staircase. I had, like, a. There's another staircase on the Other side. And it was a double staircase. This was a whole different thing. We made it into a room office. But right here on this wall was black mold.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah. In the shape of it. In the shape of a man.

[Top Lobster]

A hexagram. No, it was. It was black mold, but it was coming from the upper upstairs. Because in the air condition in that, that separate room that we have upstairs, there's like another unit upstairs. And it was like doing a slow drip for God knows how long. We didn't. It was probably since before we even brought the house because it was like behind the wall. So when we ripped out the staircase and we saw that we had. We got it all treated, scraped it up and painted it and got rid of it. Same room that the girl left the underwear in.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

It's like a witchcraft, Witchcraft underwear underwear. No, no, nobody's. Nobody's following you around, watching your witchcraft underwear.

[Top Lobster]

Do you watch the show, Chris?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Unbelievable. Every episode's about it. Go on.

[Top Lobster]

We had. We had somebody. When I first, literally when I first moved in here, we hosted a comedy show. An old friend brought his girlfriend and they stood over in this room. These people sleep a lot. They're very tired. Girls, a little weird. While we're doing. We're actually doing the comedy show and a podcast. Downstairs, the girl and another girl are running up and down and they're laughing. My aunt sees this. My aunt who's also been on the show, she's got some demonic encounters and possibly still a passenger, but she sees this, finds it weird. And I'm. I'm doing a thing, so I don't know what they're doing. Anyway, next day happens, they sleep in really late. Everybody else leaves. A guy comes to unload my parents truck because we're like. Like I said, we just got here. We're moving in. And then they come down out into the yard to say goodbye. This random guy that I don't know recognizes the girl and they have a stare off. It's crazy. Like they. If looks could kill. That's what happened there. And I'm just like, what the hell was that? So I don't say anything. And I continue to help the guy move my parents in his truck and all that. And then he just looks at me, he goes, you know that girl? And I said, no. And he goes, that girl is a witch. No, no bones about it. And I was like, I wasn't doing this show. Wasn't even thinking about anything spiritual like that at the time. So I was just like, all right. Weird months later, my entire family gets sick. Like, my kids. Starts with my kids. We get them squared away. Goes to my wife. She's messed up to the point where it's like lyme disease. Who knew she even had it? And it ran the gamut. She was, like, bedridden for a month. It was crazy. We got rid of all that stuff. And it's even crazier story as you continue. But, like, in that room after the girl left, my wife cleans it out and she goes. And in the. Within the sheets is a pair of soiled panties, filthy panties that she's left. And it's like, we made fun of it. We made jokes. And then, like, it was only, like, years later until, like, other things unfolded.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

Friendships.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Full hindsight.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah. In hindsight, like somebody on. On this show was saying something, and I was like, that happened to me. Like, they're talking about artifacts being left in places.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

And I was like, that actually happened to me.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

That.

[Top Lobster]

And then put that. Put that together with like. Like, the guy. This girl's a witch. And then there's black mold, but no, for sure. Black mold. Parasites and artifacts, witchcraft. These are all the same things, man.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Atma said. Because he. He made a joke. He said. Said some people pay good money for used panties. Wait a second, though. If you're a. If you're a, you know, some Wiccan chick and you're. You're, you know, trying to. And you're just selling nasty panties to people, and you got a little spiritual. Don't stop.

[Top Lobster]

Sorry.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Unbelievable. And you got a little spiritual. Hold on. All your. Your clientele now. You're doing sex magic.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Yes.

[Top Lobster]

We. Sydney Sweeney, Bathwater.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

So soap, right with the hole in the middle. And they're doing the. I think they're doing that. Yeah. Yeah.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Well, I had a guest. I had a guess. Phoenix Aurelius. He's a magic practitioner.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

But is that his real name?

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

I don't know. But he claims that there is a mass kind of epidemic of younger kids dabbling in witchcraft and up their lives completely. Having. Getting sick, dying, getting demonic possession. All for the tick tock, you know, the tick tock witch craze or whatever that they're doing. But it's. According to him, it's an epidemic. And like, you know, kids are being up because they're practicing black magic. And you're right on with the parasite thing. Have you ever seen parasites through a microscope?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Suckers are demons. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

That's interesting. You know, I think Keisha in the. In the chat is Actually, the one who. She didn't say it, but I. I remember she said it on. On Twitter. I believe that that black mold thing being a conduit for negative spiritual energy is. Is, you know, kind of the premise of Stranger Things. And then I was like, oh, my God, dude. Yeah, you don't get a spooky movie or a spooky show without the walls being covered in, like, black mold or black goo. And even the. The. You know, the whole thing where there's like a portal and it leads to the. Upside down, like, everything is. Is black mold in there. And. And it's such a common mechanism in. In movies and shows that are, like, horror based that it goes over your head because it's just like, now it's what you imagine the scenario would look like, you know, like, oh, yeah, if you want to make a spooky set, like, get some black mold and on the walls, like, that's a good move. And. And yeah, in. In Stranger Things, it's like this organic black goo on the walls surrounding the portals and everything. I'm like, they do this. They put it right in front of you. And. And. And it just. It's so. It's utilized so often.

[Top Lobster]

Think, dude, man. I mean, my. My godparents in. They live in Staten island, but their life has been kind of like a mess, and it Such a mess to the point where they got a hole in their ceiling in their living room because there was like a water leak damage. They just don't even fix it. Like, there's a lot of alcoholism there. There's a lot of craziness, but, like, there's clearly black mold within the rafters, and they have never addressed it. And I'm like, your life's completely upside down. I was like, I would start with that, the mold. Maybe I would get that out of there. Like, like, you can do things to yourself. Like, physically, you can pray. You can do a lot of these things, but physically, right now, your. The externalities in your house are. It's just a bad place.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

That's interesting because to. To Chris's story, it's like, yeah, you can have. You could pray and all this other stuff, but what if that entity's like, yo, dog, you probably got to stop doing the pharmaceuticals. You should probably eat healthy.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

And get that right first. Because, yeah, there's a lot of spiritual things you could do, but, like, you're in the physical.

[Top Lobster]

Let me. Let me just say, I think what happened to my wife, if. If I'm correct, if this was Like a spiritual attack. If this was witchcraft that happened to her, we fixed it. We didn't. We weren't, like, praying at the time. Like, I didn't think I had. I had rejected my old Christianity because I had a big falling out of the church. So at the time, what we did was like, all right, what can we do? We tried Western. The Western medical center and the Western medical tactics, and they wanted to put her on medication that would. She would be on for the rest of her life. So, like, that's a no. Then we went the holistic route, which is like. It's basically science, right. But we did IV infusions of vitamin C, glutathione, things like that. And she was on. It's like a very expensive parasite. Cleanses supplements that were targeting specific parts of her body. Flushes, sauna. The sauna machine we had. And you know what? That regiment cleared her up. So it's like, I'm. But I'm sure that if we would have prayed or like.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Like when you get some temporary alleviation. But it's like you got to deal.

[Top Lobster]

With the physical as well, because, like, these things are the same.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

They're married.

[Top Lobster]

They're married. They work hand in hand.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

And that works for us. And the funny thing, too, is, like, soon after we start doing this show, all the sponsors, like the early sponsors of the show, Parasite Cleanse company, Matt rife with his. All the stuff that we were using to get my wife on her feet that, like, cost me tons of money. It was given right back to us. Kind of crazy.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Very interesting.

[Top Lobster]

But I guess that's how it works, right?

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Yeah, man. I think that the. The parasite thing is a huge epidemic right now. And if you look at some of the things that they can cause, they can be like voices in your head telling you to, you know, do things.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

It.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

It actually causes manifestations like that. And, you know, you're feeding your body, like, you know, they have these parasites that cause you to crave sugar, and all you're doing is shoving sugar in your body, and that's causing, you know, more and more diseases and sickness, and it just builds up and it's a perpetual effect that attracts more parasites and different kind of parasites. So I think that the physical side, like you're saying, is just as equally important to address as any of the spiritual stuff. Because I didn't really immerse myself into the spiritual things until later, especially implementing, you know, teachings of Jesus Christ and knowing that that is going to be my. My belief. And you Know, I've come to understand that belief is such an important thing. If you going through life and you don't believe anything, it's probably going to be a very difficult, difficult life for you to get through because that belief has such power. And if you're connecting to something that is powerful as a belief on its own, like as powerful as the belief in Jesus Christ, just that word, you guys know, has immense power when it comes to the paranormal realms and entities, the entire, I guess, realm of Christianity as it relates to the teachings of Jesus. Only the teachings of Jesus are such a powerful, I don't want to say egregore because I believe it's a real thing, but it has such powerful energy that you can apply it to almost anything and it has an effect to it. And that's why I believe, that's why I turn to the teachings of Jesus Christ, because I think it is one of the most powerful and effective tools we have in this matrix reality, whatever this is to navigate it. That is, you know, part of our, guess you could say, you know, celestial spiritual heritage is to connect with that and it's, it's a very powerful energy to go through life with.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Chris, I want to ask you. We're coming up on the two hour mark and before I get into our final question, I want to ask you, do you, do you have a. Are you working on anything else in the, in the. You seem like a guy that's just doing a lot. What else you got cooking?

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

I am always doing the podcast. I have the Forbidden Knowledge Network where we feature about 12 other podcasts. We put out clips and promote those. But I am also working on my third film which is going to be a sci fi comedy mockumentary type of film. And I'm working on the script for that right now. But I didn't realize how hard it is to write a script. So that may, that may take a little time to finish. But that is my next project and I'm gonna try and get some close friends involved, some, probably some faces that you guys recognize as, as well and, and have a good time with that. But yeah, I'm always working on projects and new things, but the one constant is forbidden Knowledge news. We do like six shows a week on there and on all podcast platforms.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Very cool. Yeah, I, I just like, you know, when you see people in our space, it's, it's interesting because you can kind of just do a show and, and if, if the content is good and, and you know, you, it's compelling, then you're gonna get pretty far. But it's. It's cool when people are doing something above and beyond. We were actually asking ourselves that the other day. It was like, what are we. Are we guys in chairs in front of a camera? You know what I mean? For. For hundreds and hundreds of episodes or. Or do we do other things that are fun and, you know, we do live events and. And documentaries and such and, you know, so it's just. It's cool to see.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Well, I look at my life and it's. It's very difficult to find a time when I'm actually not working working, when I'm actually not trying to do something for the show. I mean, I have to make myself stop and take a break. You're gonna take this day off. You're gonna take a couple of days off because you're going nuts. I have to force myself to stop because I'm actually working, like, 247 now, and I really don't even notice it because it's, you know, it's just such a wonderful thing to be able to do. I get to talk to about weird all day and make a living from it. I mean, hell, man, I'm blessed.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

So that, mean. That brings me to my next question, which I believe you've already answered, but final question of the show.

[Top Lobster]

Answer it again.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Answer it again. Are you having fun?

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

I'm having the best time of my life, man. I've never been. Never been happier, never been more spiritually fulfilled, and I've never had less fear than I do in my life. Now. There's. I don't worry about. Like I always did. I'm not, you know, constantly get worried about is the Reptilians gonna come and butt plug me, or is the end of the world around the corner? No, I just kind of flow with everything because I know that I have that belief. I have that way home, in a sense, through JC and that's like such a powerful, like, tool to have to. To navigate, because it gives you that comfort, because it gives you that knowing that no matter what else anybody else is doing, you're gonna be good because you got this. So that's where I'm at with everything.

[Top Lobster]

I love it. I love. That's a great attitude to have. That's kind of where I'm at as well. I'm like, I'm having fun. I'm not too worried. But I'm still like, we're still working, we're still doing, and if they do.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Stuff, you know, hunt us down and and butt plug us.

[Top Lobster]

Whatever.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

If like an 8 foot tall lizard in a nightgown but plugs us, I'm gonna make fun of it.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, you know, that's what they're like. Oh, they're working on a new virus.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

I'm like, well, you just, all you do, you bend over and you spread them wider and you'd be like, come on.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

I tell you that.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

All you got.

[Top Lobster]

If you're gonna do a new virus, just make it strong enough to kill me.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah, that's it, right? Yeah. And I'm gonna make fun of it too.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, go for it. Do, do, do your best, but, you know. All right, man, thank you. Thank you again. And guys, forbidden knowledge news.for forbidden knowledge.news. forbidden knowledge news, the podcast. Go check him out. Watch his documentaries.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I'm watching. I'm legitimately watching it tonight. I'm excited for that. That was such a banger of a trailer.

[Top Lobster]

You got hype.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah, I got hype. I was pumped. It was all my favorite people and it was all my favorite topics. It was. It. Very, very, very good, Chris. Very good.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Yeah, man. Thank you, everyone. Go check that out. Amazon Prime.

[Top Lobster]

Absolutely. All right, guys. And until next time, whenever I get this layout correct, don't forget. And I'm just taking my time with it. To obey, submit and comply.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is.

[Top Lobster]

A oblong box in the corner of the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. You can persuade this that what they see with their eyes is what there.

[Chris (Forbidden Knowledge News)]

Is to see.

[Top Lobster]

Because they'll act in the face of an explanation that portrays.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

The bigger picture of what's happening.

[Top Lobster]

And they have.