
Are modern “Manchurian Candidates” real? Today we sit down with researcher Austin Picard to dissect MKULTRA, Project Monarch, Operation Gladio, and the media machinery that grooms patsies, manufactures outrage, and accelerates the culture war. We...
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We are being hypnotized by people like this.
Austin Picard
News readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers. We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people. The chasm between what we told is going on and what is really going.
David Lee Corbo
On is absolutely enormous.
Top Lobster
Oh, yeah, dude.
Austin Picard
This is not.
David Lee Corbo
It's like we all know what's going down, but no one's saying to what happened to the home of the brave Take control this now when no one's talking about how they man, it's finally slaves and everybody's just walking around heading.
Austin Picard
The clouds I won't awaken to a.
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Top Lobster
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David Lee Corbo
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Top Lobster
I think I made this one because you went to Benihana's.
David Lee Corbo
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Top Lobster
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David Lee Corbo
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Top Lobster
Being sons of God, right? There you go. Yes, there you go.
David Lee Corbo
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Top Lobster
Let's get into the guest.
David Lee Corbo
Joining us today is Austin Picard, fan favorite, King of the Plug. He is back once again. Well, I mean, people do love Austin though. They're always excited when you're coming back on the show. We announced it earlier to the Patreon members and everybody is pumped. Obviously, you know, a really big topic to unpack today. We're going to start to. We're breaking the seal, ladies and gentlemen, on the Charlie Kirk situation. It's time to get conspiratorial. Before we do that, Austin, where can everybody find your work?
Austin Picard
And the Underclass podcast, basically everywhere for the most part. I think the. Definitely the best place to support me is The Patreon. Right. Patreon.com the underclasspodcast. At least I have a paywalled incentive there for the. The show. What this is with me and Sam and Brad and that's always a good time. Yeah, we just, we just did one last night too. And my God, there's so many just ridiculous, extraordinary details coming out about this recent Charlie Kirk event. But, but before we get into that, I, I should, I should say it was hilarious. I went on Tim foiled the other day with, with Brad and dude, you called me the king of the plug. I couldn't shut the up. Dude. It was, it was such a struggle. I tried. I. I honestly apologized like three. At the end of the show, I realized that. So Sam had brought me on because we were talking about James Holmes and I brought up the LIBOR scandal connection to. There. There's a connection between obviously James Holmes father, Robert Holmes, and then also you have Adam Lanz's father. Right. Who they. They were both scheduled to testify in this upcoming Libor. Right. Libor scandal court hearing, which was legitimately about rigging the international finance rate, which completely affects the overall world global economy. And. Yeah, and. And so I brought that up and he's like, oh my God, you got to come on the main show and we have to talk about that. And, and so I go in expecting to like, I don't know why. I go in expecting to provide all the details of James Holmes and like, you know, get into the crucial dynamics.
Top Lobster
Of not gonna happen.
Austin Picard
No, that didn't happen at all. We started directly at the LIBOR scandal and I'm like, oh, shit. And. But either way, I feel like.
David Lee Corbo
But this is. Oh, no, but I mean to highlight that really briefly. This is the one where, you know, both of their kids end up being in the most high profile shooting events, you know, in recent American. I mean, the idea that that is a coincidence is, is I had. I wasn't even aware of that. Now I know where Sam got it from. That's funny because I heard Sam mention that and I was like, I'm sorry, what, what are we talking about? The, the. The Aurora shooter and, and Sandy Hook, right?
Austin Picard
Sandy Hook, yeah.
David Lee Corbo
What are we talking about?
Top Lobster
It's Almost like that show, whatever this is, is like the handler for Sam Tripley because you'll get drips and grabs of what, whatever it is that you guys are talking about that, that hits it to the, the main show.
David Lee Corbo
Dude, when I heard that I was like, that is one of the biggest conspiracies that barely anybody knows about. And I'm not saying that my, you know, scope of knowledge is representative of everybody's, but that is not a well known thing. That both of their sons were in the most high profile shootings that were, you know, in recent memory. Absolutely insane. Were the mo. Were the shooter. Oh my God, man, it's, it's completely incredible.
Austin Picard
Telling you it's not a plug.
Top Lobster
I think that was a plug.
David Lee Corbo
Where else can people find you?
Top Lobster
Where's six minutes?
Austin Picard
I'm sorry man, I'm sorry. No, honestly, that's basically it. The underclass podcast. You can support, support me pretty much anywhere where you can find podcasts. But, but yeah, man, I've just been really trying to. I've been off and running with this, this new concept obviously of like questioning the psychology of a modern mass shooter, which I think overlaps perfectly with, with honestly what just happened in, in this high impact event, at least as far as the over emotional consequences involved. And, and how it's. Every side of the political spectrum is getting what they want out of this. And, and I see that so very often in, in these, these very, you know, emotion arousing violent false flags, let's say. Right. And you know, I just think that the name of the game is to effectively kind of inflame this culture war. And, and I think racial tension is among the sort of crucial factors that they hope to implement. Another reason why I think that Charlotte train stabbing is so relevant in this, in this current moment, you know, and another reason why I think it got the spotlight, right? It was a strategic spotlight. The media always kind of picks and chooses what they're going to run with. And, and yeah, in my mind I just see no coincidence there. And, and then of course he comes out and claims that he's under mind control. Right. Which is absolutely insane as far as the actual perpetrator.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah, so. So the two things about it, right, Number one, they waited two weeks to release that footage. And then what you're talking about, Austin, is this guy saying, I've been controlled by a man made material. You know, basically, you know, if you can get past what. Because his language is, you know, he.
Top Lobster
Was actually talking to his sister. I thought that was it Was like.
David Lee Corbo
What you mean baby Ukraine right now?
Top Lobster
But right.
David Lee Corbo
You know, he's saying that this man made material is being controlled by somebody outside and, and they chose this person as a victim, this Ukrainian woman who otherwise he would not have chosen. So you know, and a lot of people don't want to listen to that right now because black crime statistics. But very, very, very important to the conversation.
Top Lobster
I'll also say we brought it up before, but the amount of blood that comes from the neck in both of these cases is just eerily similar. Yeah, it's like it's probably the same entry point.
David Lee Corbo
So, so let me ask you this Austin. Is it like. Because a lot of it we're thinking about like a Maturian candidate, somebody who's been activated to go and do this thing. And maybe that is the case. He's talking about having a man made material in him. But it seems to me like this is happening at scale and at any given moment they are cultivating and looking for the most emotional, heart wrenching version to achieve whatever outcome it is that they want. Which is why they sat on this thing for two weeks and it's like, this is a very real event. But because a lot of people are like, she wasn't even stabbed. That's not, I'm like, I don't know, dude. Looks horrifying to me. I could be wrong, very open to being wrong. I'm often wrong. But she, she, she looks horrified. She looks. It has every type of heartstring pulling hallmark that you would need to achieve, you know, whatever your goal is. Is this what you think is happening?
Austin Picard
Yeah, absolutely. I think that honestly when it comes down to it, when you're in that over emotional state of mind, in that sort of state of reaction, it's the reactionary state of mind as well, which I think we need to be out in front of this psychologically, you know, at all times, trying to kind of at least insulate ourselves. Right. As much as possible with the defense mechanism where we sort of, you know, can recognize the patterns and we don't fall into the traps and we remain skeptical leading in because through the over emotional induced reaction you lose all ability of critical thinking as far as you.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
Austin Picard
You have no critical thinking skills involved in that sort of frame of mind. And, and I think that is sort of the, it's by design for one, but it's also what they hope to kind of provoke out of the general public. And the vast majority of us just fall into that preordained outcome and that that trap that's been so strategically laid. And, and I think so much of that is through the conditioning aspect of, of just, you know, since from day one, I mean, our infancy inherently our only exposure has been overexposure to propagandistic programming and conditioning at every level. And, and so I feel like so many of us are in this sort of identity crisis. Whether we are acknowledging it or not is the crucial I think factor and, and usually leads to one you being some sort of like potential threat to a certain extent at the very least by, by, I would think just as far as the mindset alone will, will typically, you know, in my mind it only kind of what is it just sort of provokes this, this lower frequency environment, you know, and I think that's where, where the priority targets become, you know, just, it's, it's again, it's the. You want to break free from that sort of overall structured system that, that is plaguing society at large, you know, and I think that that's my goal to try and remain objective.
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I hope to have some sort of conclusion, working conclusion in my own mind's eye. But, you know, it's very difficult for me to, you know, say I am certain of anything except for sort of like crucial foundational principles that I can rely on at every turn and won't lead me astray and lead me into those sort of dangerous environments.
David Lee Corbo
I think it's, you know, we could talk a little bit about the fallout that's happened since the death of Charlie Kirk, which, you know, we, we were talking before the show. Even that is, is contested. I'm aware within this conspiracy community there's quite a bit of people who are, who are saying it's not even the case that this is a squib. I don't fault people for doing that, you know what I mean? Because they've lied to us so intensely and, and so fantastically for so long. Who knows? Could be the case. I don't think it's the case. I think the dude, you know, looked like he was slumped, but people are showing there's something under his shirt, this and that, and we can get to that. But since Charlie Kirk has passed away, since the, the, the Ukrainian woman got stabbed in the train, we're now seeing a lot of things. And, and just because I say this is like the left, doesn't mean that I'm even condemning these things. I think Austin's right. It's important to not be emotional and keep a level head and remain objective. But we've seen that emotional response and it's manifested as people are marching people. Max Meeks in the chat said the firings over the weekend, yeah, tons of people have been doxed, have been fired from their jobs. The Internet is now flooded with sobbing leftists who have lost their jobs one way or another. There's also quite a bit of trolls out there, so that's worth mentioning. I've watched a bunch of people get got by a comedian who was posing as a leftist who lost their job at the diversity and inclusion sector of there. It was pretty funny, but it, it has served. There we go. He says thank you for the two dollar super chat. Maxi says Charlie Kirk was the signal fire. It's lit. So whatever you make of the situation with Charlie Kirk, whether or not he's actually dead, whether or not even Israel killed him, which we're going to get into all of that as well. What it has, it's like Austin's just like Geez, man.
Top Lobster
Burying the lead.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah, it has. As he's like, let me write that down. Is real.
Austin Picard
DID.
David Lee Corbo
Has served as a beacon. And, and now what it's done is it's given kind of carte blanche to reciprocate the behavior that has been levied against the right or conservatives or anybody who's really just not left leaning enough for the left over the past decade. And, and I, I wonder really, to both of you, to, to U Top and Austin, what do you guys think about that?
Top Lobster
You're in my house asking me questions.
David Lee Corbo
You know what it is? It's like this guy, I know how your brain works and I know that you, you kind of go, well, you, this is a Christian show and I'm sorry and I won't do it again.
Top Lobster
Don't do it.
David Lee Corbo
But you, you did it to us. How's it taste?
Top Lobster
There's a lot of that, right? Yeah, there's a lot. Well, what's the question?
David Lee Corbo
The question is, is it. Is it the right move? Is it. Well, is it deserved? Is it. How do you feel about the fact that it's happening that they're getting doxxed, by the way, the amount of addresses. Oh, that I've seen all over the Internet. But you've been doxed and I've been doxed. Right.
Top Lobster
I've lost my job for over ideological purpose. So I don't give a.
David Lee Corbo
There you go.
Top Lobster
I don't care. I think this is part of. That's part of the game. It doesn't help the way things are going, but they've decided that that's the ground rules. And this is. I'm not doing it. I'm not going out there and like looking at people's and, and doxing them and sending it to their employer. But when I do see it, I go, okay, you know that like, yeah, this is what you've been doing and now this is what's happening.
David Lee Corbo
This is a reap what you sow situation.
Top Lobster
I don't even know. Like maybe, maybe a couple months ago I would have been like, I would have been like, yeah, I'm happy about this. Now it's not, I'm not necessarily happy about it, but I'm just like, this is the game you're. And now, I mean the, I don't know, I'm not even looking at the doxing. But the game that you're playing now to the left, you're playing. Not just a doxing game, which you were playing, you're playing a blood game. That's where we are now. So when things escalate, then they escalate. I didn't ask for this game, but that's the game that you're playing, so that it is what it is.
David Lee Corbo
Well, let me ask you that then, Austin. What do you think about that? The doxing, the losing of the jobs, the marching? There was a White Lives Matter protest here in Miami. Obviously, it rhymes. It's not exactly the same. They're not burning down buildings. And I think that's kind of the point they want to highlight is, look, we can march and we can't do. But. But still a lot of things are happening and they rhyme exactly with what we've been subjected to. But from the other side for so long.
Austin Picard
Right. I feel like this is definitely the modern. It is the modern strategy of tension at play. You know, it's very alive and well, in my opinion. Project Operation Gladio just went underground. This is how you destabilize the domestic population. Obvious, obviously. So I think the culture war escalation is by design. It's. It's the desired outcome. And so when. When you see that the perpetrator like it, the strain. Well, first of all, obviously, all of the strange misidentified perpetrators providing misdirection on the ground, which, in my mind, or right off the bat, screams operation, right? As far as how you would draw attention away while you have operational sort of assets that's strategically put into place or as well as the. This sort of escape route, which is necessary, so you want to peel eyes away and draw them to certain other geographical areas while your operational assets are then, you know, sort of whisked away out of town. And we clearly saw, right, with the private jet going off radar and leaving directly after the event and being so close by as well, as far as the. I think it was i15, which, again, it provides a perfect escape route. And this is how you would want to stage an operation as well. And then you have every single box being checked from day one. As far as the perpetrator's alleged motives, not one of which have been confirmed, which is insane, that. That this kid is still not even apparently cooperating with authorities whatsoever and has yet to confess, although I did see reports of him allegedly confessing early on, which is hilarious. It's like we keep getting this. The. This very muddy disinformation, you know, misdirection, in my opinion. And I think it's. It's for wherever you hope to reside on that. On that political spectrum, you'll get what you Want. It's exactly how I feel about this. And that's why I saw want to.
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Austin Picard
What was it you had mentioned? Oh, yeah, yeah. I, I saw this video that, that Sam showed last night on whatever this is of. I didn't actually see the six members of the security detail. I didn't like watch from this, this specific angle where they're carrying him to the suv. Right. Which is very strange. Obviously you would think you would want to EMTs involved and like he would be trying to at least do, you know, some sort of medical response. But, but either way, they're carrying him. I, I was wondering, is he wrapped in it in like, what do they have on the wound? Because that, that was like gushing blood, right? Yeah.
David Lee Corbo
There was no stopping that amount of blood.
Austin Picard
No blood trail following the, the, the body being carried by the six members of the security detail. That's strange as far as how much an individual human would be, you know, just flooding out blood at that point, I would imagine. I mean, just especially considering the original view of the angle of the shot itself. Right.
David Lee Corbo
You know, I almost got to say too, because people are like, oh, it could be a squib. It'd be very hard to hide. I mean, you'd have to have. Yeah, it's a lot. Max Meeks with the two dollar donation said the lion is out of its cage. He said something else. Thank you very much for the donation. There's something else that he said that I want to Highlight. And I think he said the, The. The killing Charlie was a huge mistake of the system. Now, now, Austin, I want you to speak to that. Was it a mistake or is this a perfect puppeteering of these dichotomies that they've created?
Austin Picard
Yes, I think that this is. This is honestly how you achieve this. This totalitarian tiptoe to escalate into, you know, more of a dystopian direction. And, and it only involves your voluntary participation in this, the current structured system. So if you want to fall into that psychological, you know, as far as. In my mind, it's always this sort of mind manipulators are attempting to at least lure you into position. And I would just, at least, you know, just kind of like. I think it's important to always pause and attempt to kind of reflect for a moment and make sure that you're not falling into that over emotional, reactionary state of mind. Because it's what they hope, you know, Again, it's like this is. At every level, you're seeing people just, you know, shouting from the rooftops. I'm seeing the propaganda being parroted from the left. You know, gun violence doesn't care about your ideology. And then you have obviously members on the right who are just. Were completely lying in wait for this trans. Trans, you know, narrative to form surrounding the perpetrator, which, you know, again, this kid, he screams path of the patsy in my mind, I mean, at every level. And I think, you know, it's interesting because I've. I've done. Yeah. When William came on, I saw you guys had him on as well. To talk about the Manchurian Candidate. Right. And I had him on recently. Yeah. And to talk about the same thing on Friday and weird timing, right, because.
David Lee Corbo
We didn't know that we were doing a thing just before it was going to happen again.
Top Lobster
I had told you, Austin, you would have came on before. I'm kind of glad that we scheduled for after, but I'm like, like, we've got.
David Lee Corbo
It would just be too close. The same subject.
Top Lobster
Too close. William actually approached me to talk about the Manchurian Candidate first. I was like, let him go. And then you come in and then we're gonna, well, piggyback.
David Lee Corbo
We said to each other, we were like, but don't worry because Charlie Kirk's gonna die.
Austin Picard
Yeah.
Top Lobster
I said, just wait a second because I have something big planned.
Austin Picard
No.
Top Lobster
That was a joke.
David Lee Corbo
Speaking of jokes, though, speaking of this heightened emotional state, I did see so Jose Galison, right?
Top Lobster
Already talk about this guy again.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah, because. Because this is a great example. He posted something, right, where he's basically like, I'm not. I'm paraphrasing, you know, but he's like, I'm not going to lionize this shill for Israel, more or less. It's kind of like, what? And dude, every single comment, they were like, I'm gonna kill you.
Austin Picard
Yeah.
David Lee Corbo
Somebody being like, I am coming to you. Like, I'm coming to. Like, somebody was like, coming to find you. So you want to talk about the. I mean, we watched, you know, the death of Charlie Kirk live on the show, and it was heavy. It was weird. It took the air out of the show. We were kind of on a comedic bent. Then all of a sudden somebody in the, in the chat said, you know, this just happened. We went to the computer and it was like. Like the air was just taken out of the room and it was just heavy, man. It was really heavy watching that. It was hard to bounce back from it. I'm an advocate of, you know, obviously you. You remain objective and you. And you. You analyze, especially if that's your thing. But the, the climate at the time was like, even, Even us, who, you know, we're kind of wouldn't. I wasn't. I wasn't ready to slap that button, wouldn't have made that joke that we just made. Certainly not the day of. It was like, everybody was very emotional. It was very heightened.
Austin Picard
Yeah. Yeah. And I, I specifically, I. I always choose to. Well, one, I feel like so much of the. Just sort of the environment on social media, specifically on Twitter as well. But not only, obviously. It just feels a lot of the, The. It's strange that people feel the need to always be heard at every single level, every single time there's an event that takes place. It's like, that's not necessarily what. You know, I think it's a lot of. It's ego driven to a certain level, you know, and I. But also I get it. It's irrelevant. It's irrelevant event. It's. It's. It's a major scandal and, and clearly you want to address it. But in my mind, I obviously, you know, I don't. I don't use social media in, in except to promote my show for the most part. You know, I should probably post a little bit more often, but. But I don't know. I just honestly, it feels like it's. It's extremely. It's. It's something that feels like a waste of time. One for me, and energy as well, because I. I'm Too emotional to involve myself in, like, sort of engaging at a level where I'm going to have this constant conflict. Right. That's something that I don't want in. In my. Sort of. In just sort of. I don't like to introduce that avenue into my life because I hope to only kind of spotlight and pay attention to the positive things as much as I possibly can, because I feel like so much of this is an attempt to demoralize us at every. As at every turn. And so, yeah, once you understand that ideological subversion is. Is very much at play, and the key, number one factor is demoralization as far as the first stage, then I feel like at the very least, you should attempt to remove yourself from that equation as often as you possibly can. And. And that's my only concern with the. Now, I. I don't. I'm not at all, like, you know, targeting you guys as far as your online presence, you know, whatsoever, so don't take it that way.
David Lee Corbo
No, no, no. But I was actually gonna. I mean, thank you for addressing the elephant. And I have actually pulled back substantially because I realized that there was a time where I was playing this game, and the game was, I'm going to say the truth, no matter how inflammatory it is, because you've silenced me for the past decade and I'm done with this. And. And then I realized that now I'm playing directly into. And they kind of knew it all along, really. It was just refreshing to be able to say these things. And then when I watch the rest of these people start. Start also saying it, and, you know, they're getting their accounts boosted and everything, I'm going, okay, now I'm just playing into the hand of something. And it turns out that I kind of suck and don't have a whole lot to contribute besides this thing that I've been mad about. So now I'm just like. I'm sitting back and I'm watching it, and I'll say things occasionally, but they get no traction anymore because it's not black crime statistics or it's not, you know, it's time for the white man to stand up, or it's not something like that. It turns out that. What's that?
Austin Picard
It's not. I'm not. I didn't mean to cut you off, but it's not reinforcing these. These agenda items that are at play. And I think so. So much of it is to plague, you know, the. The general public into. Into legitimately falling into, let's say, anti semitism as a justification for. For violating the First Amendment. I mean, I've been screaming about that from day one. As far as the anti, Semitism, you know, task force is going to solve all our problems. You know, it's like people sort of focus on what confirms their own bias in terms of their ideology, you know?
David Lee Corbo
You know, just to. Just to clarify it too. It's like, what I. What I found myself doing was being like, hey, the Jews, huh? And then I'm going, but then I'm going, but also, they really want us to notice the Jews. And then I'm going, hey, the blacks, huh? Look at these statistics. And then on the other hand, I'm shouting, they really want us to notice the blacks in the statistics. So I thought I could play this game of, like, the problem is if. If the only people shouting about black. Black crime statistics are people that want to accelerate some sort of an agenda.
Austin Picard
Yes.
David Lee Corbo
Well, then those are the only people that are going to be listening to. But if you can get up there with them and make it two types of people that are yelling about the black agenda. Ones that have. I mean, the black crime statistics, ones that have an agenda and ones that are like, now that you're paying attention, look at this agenda. But I kind of did that for a while, and I got those people, they're here listening to this show, and they agree with me, but I'm like, I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm exhausted of it now. I don't want to do it anymore because not everybody sticks around for the nuance to. To also sit by your side and go, you're right. There is an agenda. They want us to notice this thing. And some people are just seeing your tweet and then going, yeah, dude. And then running off into the sunset to go and persecute the black whatever, to fight the race war that they're trying to engineer us to fight that they're never gonna have to fight in. So I. I got tired of doing that, and now I'm just like, now I don't even know how to, like, play anymore.
Top Lobster
Well, if I'm not doing. If I'm not doing comedy anymore, then I'm not really gonna do it as hard as I did it before. Like, I was like, me, specifically, I was operating in the absurd a lot. But that was part of, like, what I was doing. That's, like, part of my job. And now it's like, I don't do that anymore, so I'm not gonna do that anymore. So that way. You can't, like, you can't meaningfully misinterpret what I'm saying. So I'm like, I just stepped away from it because I, I see, I see where it's all where you guys are leading with this anyway.
David Lee Corbo
And it was like you'd look over every once in a while and you'd have like a bunch of groipers clamoring on you.
Top Lobster
I'm not gonna go stand on the stage with you and say like crazy.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
Top Lobster
I'm saying this because I need to. It needs to have attention drawn to it. But I'm saying it in a comedic way. And now it's kind of like, well, I'm not doing that anymore, so no need.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
Top Lobster
And we just move on. So if it's a joke or if it's not a joke, it's just kind of. I don't know, I feel like. Make that a little bit more obvious. But thank you to Max. He was censored 10 years ago. And another super chat.
David Lee Corbo
$2 an author.
Top Lobster
No civil war. No war. Christ's king.
David Lee Corbo
I mean, I do feel like he's right, though. No civil war. Right. It's like we are dealing with a really old playbook of subversion and engineered revolution, engineered civil war. And it's like to engage in it knowing that is. But I don't necessarily have a solution in the other way. I'm just going, I can't. No matter how tempting it is, no matter how I'm fed up with the trans agenda, no matter how much I'm fed up with crime statistics, no matter how much I'm fed up with Israel's influence in our government. I'm not going to fight your civil war.
Austin Picard
Right. I mean, I find. I found it so interesting. And that also kind of reminds me that I do value, like, let's say culture jamming for an example. You know, I. I always thought it was valuable because at least it. It forcefully removes the veil for some people. And I appreciate that because it does move the needle in a positive direction. But then I wonder, you know, how much of a consequential outcome of like the, The. The polar opposite is. Is kind of reinforcing these bad ideas in a certain way because it's misinterpreted, but not that that robs it of its value. I just think that this is, you know, this is the name of the game, man. We're dealing with kind of like mental midgets at a certain level. You know what I mean? Like, they're at this very low frequency of their interpretation and, and ability to critically think through these, these ideas and is, is due to this lack of self discipline and, and sort of like, you know, committing yourself to, to just one growing as a person, as an, as an individual. I think that in itself, it's like you better be actively pursuing that on a daily basis in, in your conscious mind, in the forefront, you know, remind yourself what's most important because I think knowing who I am personally, it's a slippery slope, my friend. You know, like one bad decision leads to the next, and, and then I've become a monster. And I mean, that happens to people. And, and I feel like once I had to. I had substance abuse issues in my past when I was a younger person. And, and you know, it, it forced me. It forced me to reflect on the decisions I had made and the person I had become. And I, I kind of. There's a moment I'll never forget, man. Like my straight up. I was addicted to opiates for a while, right? And, and essentially, man, just looking for a fix at every level, you know, facing, you know, just sort of consequences that, you know, I deserved. But at the same time, it was just like, man, to see the collateral damage, right, that, that you cause. And, and my man, I mean, I've done things that, that make just. It makes it difficult to, to really love yourself at any level, you know what I mean? Because you kind of have, that you have to come to terms with your character defects and the, the mistakes you've made in your past, but to what level you can kind of like set that aside and, and remove your baggage at the door. It's always a difficult task, you know, and I think that there's a moment I'll never forget. And you know, my mom, she. She looked at me once and I was just desperate for a fix in the moment and, and acting a fool, you know, and, and she just looked at me, man, and she's. Tears in her eyes, you know, who are you? I don't even recognize you anymore. And, and it's just like, thank God. Thank God that I had the ability to climb out of that, you know, darkness because it was like I saw so many people never get out, you know, and like, just going through recovery and, and seeing like, yeah, just the ultimate toll and how some people just might not have the ability to climb back out from, from, from that pit of hell that they put themselves in. And I think that people need to remind themselves this is why you surround yourself with, with people who who, who drive you to be a better person and to improve at every level. And, and you know, I think that it's really, you know, once, once you understand that that's what matters most of all. Right. Is that. Is that you're consistently hoping to, to at least. You know, I, I think that one, it's, it's sort of just as far as like I'm very blessed to have married a woman that, that, that definitely brings the best out in me in many ways. Right. And she's sort of like drives me to be a better person. And I think that, you know, you sort of need that in your life at least some. Definitely some people do. I don't know. I agree that applies to everyone, but for me personally, absolutely it does. And, and, but I'm very grateful ultimately at the end of the day that I went through all of that and, and you know, because sincerely I, I was, I was forced to grapple with you know, the sort of. Just when it comes to actually having these, these kind of psychological demons, you know, it really does become that. And I think that, man, that was when I was researching Project Monarch and, and basically the roots of, of trauma based mind control, you know. Yeah. I basically just discovered that really there's, it's so strange when, when you figure out that that Monarch itself was, was really kind of like obviously if you're considering the origin of Monarch, it's. It seems to have been human honey pots utilizing child prostitutes, obviously. But as far as, like, I just think that understanding that there's this sort of interesting as far as. In my opinion, I think that people don't understand how loose of a grip they have on free will in general. You know, and, and what I found is that there was, there's legitimately a history of Project Monarch where they talk about demonic possession being the altars in the dissociative identity disorder equation. And I was starting to like, made me uncomfortable. It was very unsettling reading through it and because truly it made me consider that this is possible. Right. And again, honestly. Go ahead. Did you have some.
David Lee Corbo
No, no. I was just gonna say that we've gotten to this point now in our research where I'm calling things like Project Monarch and MK Ultra government funded demonic possession. And, and I think you're absolutely right. People don't realize how loose of a group they actually have. You know, your, your struggle with, with opioids. But I think the, the big connective tissue here is the trauma.
Austin Picard
Right.
David Lee Corbo
And that, that's, that's present in the programming and everything. And that's what they're doing to us. And, and the thing that we're falling victim to isn't just mass opioids, which is, you know, possible. Thank you to Max Meeks for the five dollar donation. This dude's gonna run out of money. Drugs in America are a huge factor. Yes. And many of your civil servants are on them. Yes, I've worked with them. It's true. I believe that 100%. Max Meeks, I think you're, you're totally correct. But instead of opioids, the thing that we're, we're losing grip and sliding towards is this massive reactivity. And the thing that's got us to that point is trauma. So they're traumatizing all of us on a mass scale. We got a T shirt here. We bring it up all the time. Free range MK Ultra chickens. I think that the MK Ultra project, Project Monarch and all of its subsidiaries, they were so fruitful that they scaled them up and then released them to the masses. And now we're all being subjugated to that level of trauma all the time. We're all being subjugated to that level of psychedelic or, you know, whatever your drug of choice is. So you've got the drugs, you've got the trauma. Who knows? I'm sure there's frequency that's involved if 5G towers, we don't know what it is. But my point is that great opioid that we're all slipping towards right now is whatever reaction they've primed us for and, and, and, and God believe it, that they've primed us for it. We're all sliding towards the, the ground beneath our feet is gravel and we're all headed towards something really, really wild. And, and I do think, you know, in this situation, the opioids is a great metaphor for this addiction. This, this thing that, that we want to use to alleviate this stress, and that is finally having enough. Finally having enough and, and doing the thing, engaging in the war, condemning an entire race of people, whatever it is, you name it, there's something in here for everybody. Before we go any further though, we're at the 38 minute mark, guys. If you're watching on YouTube, if you're watching on Rumble, that's too bad for you. Go on over to patreon.com forward/nephilim death Squad. Continue enjoying this episode. If not just wait until it releases in about a week in its entirety. Thank you guys for watching. So. So yeah, I think that that Is it man, it's trauma. And it's. And it, and it pushes you towards something to alleviate that trauma. For an individual, it's drugs. For the masses, it is a large scale reaction. Do you think I'm, I'm right on that?
Austin Picard
Yeah, absolutely. And that's why. The reason I brought it up is only because I view it as, as sort of a psychological weakness, although I went through it myself obviously. And I think it's a vulnerability for, for, for really the vast majority. And that's why we have a society plagued with this sort of over pharmaceutical agenda. As far as like they're overly just consistently kind of like in a stupor. Right. The, the vast majority seem to be prescribed either SSRIs or benzodiazepine of some kind. Or, or. And, and this becomes a sort of. In my mind it, it's. What's, what's the term where essentially it's fertile ground, basically. Right? As, as far as your psychologically, your. The state of mind that you sort of reside in. Right. It becomes fertile ground because this is how you disrupt the NE in the brain. And so I think that it's very easy to achieve. And obviously the sophisticated methods of mind control have been very much advanced over time into this technological state to where, yeah, they, they've been able to utilize, you know, let's say elf, right. Electromagnetic frequencies, EMF as well, low frequencies as well. And I think it's interesting because when I was on tinfoil, I brought up the artichoke documents that I was reading through recently. And because it blew my mind that this dates all the. The way back to 53 where they could essentially utilize a telephone to basically draw an, an individual who was fully of free mind. Right. In a free state of mind is what they claim. And they could trigger them into a fully hypnotic state. A hypnotic state of mind. Right. A hypno program state by utilizing a telephone essentially is, is what they claimed. And this is on The Artichoke Documents, 1-7-1953 says in all these cases these subjects have clearly demonstrated that they can pass from a fully awake state to a deep H controlled state, all right. Via the telephone, via some very subtle signal that cannot be detected by other persons in the room and without the other individual being able to note the change. It has been shown clearly that physically individuals can be induced into a hypnotic state by telephone by receiving written matter or by the use of code signals or word, and that control of those hypnotized can be passed from one individual to another without great difficulty. It has also been shown by experimentation with apparently young girls that they can act as unwilling couriers for information purposes and that they can be conditioned to a point where they can believe a change in identity on their part, even on the polygraph. So that was another reason why they want to split personality spies to essentially pass information without the individual victim even knowing it. And, and they would be triggered by a phrase or, or you know, some sort of a code word mechanism that would essentially trigger them into the first layer of the hypnotic state. Now this is something I didn't realize. There's layers involved in the hypno programmed aspect of how they sort of of fracture your mind. And the first layer is sort of the first level of suggestibility and then the secondary layer has to be re. Triggered by, by an additional code. Now this makes all the sense in the world if you consider the Manchurian Candidate as an example, right. And even the 1962 film with Sinatra and Angela Lansbury, they sort of played this out perfectly. I did. I stayed up last Thursday to like 3am and I made like two whole pages of notes in. I completely derailed William during the process. The next day I was like.
David Lee Corbo
We.
Austin Picard
Had a good time.
Top Lobster
I still, I still austin for that. For that project Artichoke Paper is. Does it mention the framework beforehand that somebody has to be subjected to in order to be become under deep hypnosis through a phone call? Or is that just like, like anybody?
David Lee Corbo
That's a scary thing.
Austin Picard
What I thought about what was the most extraordinary aspect of this document was essentially that these documents that dropped in 53 legitimately had no prior programming involved. It was just they found a way to utilize basically key phrases within. And it's also, I think they do need to have some frame of reference for who the individual is, I think because that it, they are pulling on emotional strings. I think that people need to understand. And this plays into the Queen of Diamonds in, in the Manchurian Candidate because it's reminiscent of Raymond's loved and hated mother, right. Which obviously she's. The second key to clear the mechanism for any other assignment is the alleged, uh, purpose of this. Right. So they're playing on his Oedipus complex as well. Well, because this dude. That's so crazy, right. I didn't realize in the book itself, it's unlike the movie, right? At the, in the, the final scene where Angela Lansbury reveals to Raymond her son that basically I told them to build me a killer and they, they brought me you. You know what I mean? It was like she never intended it to necessarily be her own son, but she wasn't. She wasn't obviously opposed to sacrificing him him for the. For the sake of the operation itself and the overall grand agenda at play. But still, what she do, she. She kisses him twice on the cheek, and then she basically just, like, kisses him on the lips for a very uncomfortable, long amount of time. And, And. And I was like, okay, what are they implicating there? Right? And. And then, then William tells me in the book. I haven't read it yet. I. I'm definitely going to now, but the. In the book, I guess Condon essentially has it. Has it written to where they had a sexual relationship and he was sexually traumatized as a young person by his own mother who forced him to, you know, sexually pleasure her. And then essentially this develops into this hatred complex that they had right for each other. Raymond absolutely despised her because the first time he has a potential girlfriend, she completely destroys that. That, you know, his ability to even have a relationship. And so, again, it's just very interesting to me. It screams of Lee Harvey Oswald because he had very similar characteristics and a background story to where allegedly he had been potentially abused by his own mother and that at the very least, he had extreme emotional issues that were tied back to his mom, which I found interesting. And if you read about basically Oswald himself, it's so crazy, man, because his father. I didn't realize this, but his father apparently is. He's. He's, I believe. Let me find it. It's so strange the. The fact that he's. He's actually. Let me find it here. Let's see. He. Because it's so interesting to. To find out that he had strange connections politically to, I believe it was Roosevelt, which is so insane. And again, it fits perfectly in with. With this ridiculous glowing background between all these alleged, you know, let's say, patsies in my mind, because I think far more of these individuals are. Are clearly programmed to Patsy than they are programmed to kill. And, and they're just.
David Lee Corbo
I mean, they had that first guy, George Zim comes out and he.
Top Lobster
Program to Patsy is a.
David Lee Corbo
Program to Patsy is a banger. That could be a good band name, a good T shirt. Yeah, that's a good podcast name.
Top Lobster
There you go.
David Lee Corbo
So George Zim, right. Right after the Charlie Kirby Kirk shooting, he gets apprehended. He goes, shoot me. Shoot me. And then all of a sudden, yeah, pants on the ground. Pants on the ground. Looking like a fool with your pants on the ground. And for whatever Reason they're then interviewing a guy immediately after Charlie is shot on the ground there still at the location. And, and, and he's going, george Zim was. Was a loony. Boony may have been a little crazy, but he's a patsy. So he's using the word patsy, and somehow he knows the guy, George Zim. So his name's already out there. Program to Patsy is the name of the episode at the very least, but it needs to be a product and, or a book or something. And, and, and he. So he knows George Zim's name and he's already, you know, saying that he didn't commit the crime, and he's also calling him a patsy. The whole thing immediately screams. And we saw that live when we were doing the show. That's how quick it came out.
Top Lobster
Like, what the hell is.
David Lee Corbo
They were like, this is it. Because I was saying, pay attention. In the next coming days, we're gonna get all kinds of, like, weird Manchurian Candidate that's gonna. And. But the show didn't even end, and we got that piece of footage from somebody that allegedly knew him.
Top Lobster
There's that guy. There's also the guy that's celebrating in one of the. The frames.
David Lee Corbo
It's. It's insane. And he goes, no, no, I was just saying USA because whatever. Have you said. Yeah, yeah. Have you seen the movie Weapons?
Austin Picard
No, but I've heard about it and I've seen a couple of. Of clips of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
David Lee Corbo
So your identical twin brother, Donut. Shout out Donut.
Austin Picard
He.
David Lee Corbo
He did a dive on it. We gotta have him on. We're gonna have him on to talk about the movie.
Top Lobster
That's why I made this shirt for.
David Lee Corbo
That's right, the MK Ultra shirts.
Top Lobster
John C. Lily dolphins.
David Lee Corbo
I. I want to do, like, a breakdown on the film, honestly. I'm wondering if we should do an elongated version. He can do it to his Patreon members, We'll do it to our Patreon members. We'll do it together.
Top Lobster
But them together.
David Lee Corbo
We'll just. Them together. But really early on in the film. You know, we're gonna do a little bit of spoilers here. It's like the whole thing is predicated on a bunch of children from elementary school go missing in one class, 17 of them. And Illuminati confirmed. And. And, you know, I. I habitually pay attention to the background noise of a film. I can't, not now. I'm always looking for, like, what's the reading material? What's on the show? What. What Words are in the background. Immediately you get 1948. Like in the opening scene it says 1948 India. I'm immediately thinking 19 paperclip. I think most of this MK ultra.
Top Lobster
Crap actually before you even head up with that. 1953. That's right. I know, I know you probably heard our spiel on Andreja Puharich, but, like, when you're talking about elf waves, which he developed, you're talking about like dental tooth implants. I mean, the guy was obsessed with this stuff. So 1953, perfectly artichoke is like. I mean, it has this guy's name written.
David Lee Corbo
These guys were. Were sprinting with this research around this time, and it was getting spread around to everybody who needed to know. And they were developing, developing all these programs at the time. So 1948, right? We're talking about Operation Paperclip. I think all of this comes from the research that the Nazis were doing as far as like traumatizing an individual so that they disassociate. And then you're creating space for a second programmable personality, among other things that you can achieve when you do this. But then the very next thing you see is on the school blackboard. It's parasites. And then a bunch of information about parasites. And then. And it's whales and a bunch of information about frequency. And I'm going, what is going on? They're telling you something right now. You know why? You didn't know why before, but it was. It was it. That's why you have it. So. So parasites play a huge role in demonic possession. And then, of course, there's TV episodes later on in the background of the film that are talking about Host being taken over by a parasitic Cordyceps mushroom. Now they no longer have free will, and they're, they're, they're, you know, controlled by something else else. If you're paying attention to this whole thing, it is telling you about this MK Ultra program, this Project Monarch. By the way, the characters throughout the film, they. Through witchcraft, which always seems to show itself. Right. We talk about this before. The spiritual element of these things always is satanic. It's witchcraft. So they are becoming puppeteered effectively by. By witchcraft. And the way that she does it. I'm not going to tell you how she does it, but all these things plug into. And then you have the school element. And the school element to me is like a nod to these school shooters, because these kids, it's called weapons for a reason, you know, and without giving too much away. And I'll land it here, the kids become weapons. And so it's, it's. It's crazy how much I. I don't even know why. Sometimes I'm like, what, what, did somebody just see this, this playing out in real life and go, this would make a fantastic piece of fiction or whatever the case is. You could say Revelation of the Method, yada, yada. That is a film, Austin, that I highly recommend you check out. It is. It's telling you all of the pieces of this puzzle, how they do it, the tools that they use to do it, the years that they started to do it, all kinds of. It's fantastic.
Austin Picard
Dude, I'm gonna, I'm definitely gonna watch it now. I. I know as far as it's. It's so strange, the kabbalistic nature, mind control, and how it's specifically referenced and described as having this significant kabbalistic theme involved, which blew me away, that this was described by John De Camp, who's the former Nebraska state Senator, legal counsel for. For Paul Benassi and many of the Franklin victims. Right. Of the Franklin scandal. And, and he legitimately said that himself when he was describing Michael Aquino's role in, in essentially running the Monarch Boys. And, and which, which, which really, it's. It's strange. And again, it's like you mentioned the, the mass shooters and how the last time I came on, basically I'm questioning the concept of a serial killer and, and the urban myth of a, of a snuff film. Right. And. And then also we're essentially, at this point, we're effectively intended to believe that right around the same time that serial killers just happen to fall off the face of the earth, statistically, we now get mass shooters to fill the void. Right. And. And they, they begin to surface. And, and we're, of course, I wonder why we're intended to believe this is some grand coincidence, but it sort of makes sense in my mind. And then I had recently watched Bill Cooper respond to Columbine, right. And essentially how. Oh, my God, there's an occult connection as far as to Columbine that I, That I didn't realize as well from some of the student victims that were. Were surviving victims and then had very strange consequential outcomes in. In the. Just a couple of years after the event took place and were effectively silenced in my mind, which was by design, I feel like. And wait, what was it?
David Lee Corbo
You're saying they had Strange, consequential outcome? What do you mean? What did they experience in the coming years?
Austin Picard
So this is crazy. The at least my favorite example of this. It comes in the form of this. This victim witness who her name is. Let me find it. It's so interesting. Her name is or no. Yeah, this is. It's from the mother is giving the actual statement. But the name of the. The student is Mark Taylor. It's the. It's a male survivor. And and so he claims that what he saw while he attended Columbine High School was the open use of drugs classes that consisted of teaches coaching students or teachers coaching students on how to have better sex and discuss. Yeah. And that they were having the discussion of witchcraft which was suggesting a possible link to occult trauma programming. They they claimed which. Which was a reflection on McMartin obviously in many ways the McMartin preschool because so much of what they claimed to experience. Right. The blood rituals when they would go underground into the tunnel system which led to the neighboring properties which is allegedly where. Where they would come up into a garage in one of the neighboring homes and then they would essentially traffic the children from there to the locations where they would be abused outside of the the school. And all of this would be obviously done. This is why there was like this floor entrance in the school itself and like a closet area and and then there was also an external entrance that I believe. Paul Bynum was the name of the Manhattan police officer, Manhattan beach police officer who went and found all these dead sacrifice carcasses of bunnies and turtles and and said that they were committing animal sacrifice. Yeah. And then he winds up dead when he's supposed to actually go to court the day supposed to go to testify he's dead. Right. He he winds up worst case of suicide you've ever seen. He's a happy father, just had a child and and his career was entirely derailed. And and of course you had perpetrators who were then later it was later discovered. Right. They had personal information of of the individual investigators involved in the case itself on their home desk when they were allegedly apprehended by the police because they were all tipped off. They had full prior knowledge same as the finders when when they raided the finders properties in D.C. what do they find? They found they found these based basically a set of instructions and a communication log from when when these private peer to peer node computer nodes in the in the 80s, which is like unprecedented that they had they were so sophisticated at this time were were in discussion with the individual private computer node in Tallahassee where the. Right. Where the the perpetrators were apprehended at the park with the. With the children that were acting like animals and, and so whenever. What would they. What were they doing? They were being tipped off and, and, and told to cover their tracks. And they had. They had provided instructions on how to keep the children moving through different jurisdictions so they would be out out of sight from the authorities who were currently investigating and instructions on how to infiltrate child care organizations and babysitting services and have members of the finders promote themselves to. To fulfill those roles, to have easy access to children. This is the name of the game.
David Lee Corbo
Z Man in the chat says it's weird when they bulldoze a school after a shooting.
Austin Picard
Dude.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
Austin Picard
And you know what else I found out that, that those tunnel systems were. Were dug before the school was ever built and that the individual property owner who, who essentially was behind. Yeah, dude, this was a op.
David Lee Corbo
This was an operation on top of the tunnels.
Austin Picard
Yeah, brother.
David Lee Corbo
From its inception, they had the escape route. Not just the escape route, but the intention to do this.
Austin Picard
This. Yes. And that's why the. The individuals who ran McMartin were perpetrators. It was the same her. Her that. That woman. I forget her name now, but the. Her son was the main key perpetrator in. In McMartin. And she. It was another situation where you had a perfect example of the. This sort of pedophile dynastic, right? Like as far as generational effect on. On this recycled abuse. Right. And. And it leads to. I think these pedophiles breed more sociopathic pedophiles. It's like. I don't know what else to say, but that's what it seems like happens. And then also just imagine if you would want to somehow, you know, have some sort of active of just avenue of undocumented children. Right? And I think that so. So often that's happening as well. And, and some of these, again, this ha. This comes up so often where. Where the children that are utilized in these experiments or at least used in. In let's say human honey. Honey pot, child prostitution, entrapment operations. I mean, it's basically if you look at it, it. It's very strange because I, I know when I was talking about Monarch, this will blow your mind because it brings in the kabbalistic nature. Oh, and I forgot the connection to Lee Harvey Oswald's father that I mentioned earlier. So his name allegedly, because I think he's potentially actually the spawn of a Nazi breeding experiment with Carrie Thornley, but.
David Lee Corbo
Maybe not at all. It doesn't even. I don't even flinch at that.
Top Lobster
I go, yep, I'm Dead serious.
Austin Picard
And they, he, he. Kerry Thornley thought that they were both sort of experimented on through these behavioral modification techniques and then kind of thrust into active domestic operations. Which is why Kerry Thornley not only went on to create the. And found discordianism, the occult ideology. Right. And belief system and religion struck sort of cult itself. But you know, he also was named by Jim Garrison as, as being one of the Lee Harvey Oswald impersonators. Right. That were. That were essentially. And. And he also claimed that he's running covert ops with Lee Harvey Oswald and that's why they were were stationed together at. I think it was at Sugi in Japan, which was a known location for where they were conducting these experiments, but also where they were staging the fake defector program to send active assets into Russia on an intelligence dangle for the, the YouTube spy plane. And yeah, it's very strange, but that it's interesting to, to actually follow his footsteps honestly. He came back on like a CIA plane. It's hilarious that people act like, like he wasn't fully compromised from the beginning and, and just placed into position while already have living. He had lived a lifetime of sort of trauma in, in terms of sexual trauma. Right right. Because again, it's like. But, but the point being the father, so his name is Robert Edward Lee Oswald Senior. He served as sergeant in the U.S. army during World War I. Said to be the third cousin of President Theodore Roosevelt as well as a distant cousin of Confederate General Robert E. Lee, which I just don't think most people realize that about Lee Lee Harvey Oswald's alleged birth. Birth father. But it makes sense, right? Clearly as far as if he, if that actually is his father, then you know, it, it would. It would definitely like fit the pattern as far as like the fathers with glowing backgrounds. You know what I'm saying? Because yeah, that makes you wonder too.
David Lee Corbo
If it's just the background like the, the military connection or if there's like a bloodline, you know, genetic aspect to it that does seem to show itself.
Top Lobster
Access to the. Access to the bloodline of like maybe they just know that this person, this bloodline has a specific set of characteristics that we can do XYZ with. I don't know.
David Lee Corbo
You know, I'm sorry, I was, I was on Facebook and I'm arguing with.
Austin Picard
People which is a new one does.
David Lee Corbo
Well, not really. It's. It's a new landscape for arguing for me. I got tired of everybody on. On Twitter basically more or less agreeing with me and so I said what's happening? On Facebook, people upset these people. And I find basically I'm telling people like, you know, you're getting caught up in this left versus right paradigm, when in reality this is an orchestrated sort of civil unrest situation. This is two wings of the same bird being pitted against one another. The real fights taking place over your head. You know, what do you know about MK Ultra creating a disassociative state? State. This is what I'm telling people on Facebook. Creating a disassociative state.
Top Lobster
He's telling MK Ultra victims and they're just getting inflamed.
David Lee Corbo
It's very frustrating because the guy's like, if MK Ultra was so successful, why did we lose the Vietnam War? And I'm like, I can't even.
Top Lobster
It's like, if MK Ultra was so successful, why do you live in a box right now?
David Lee Corbo
That's what he says. He's like, I live in a trash can. But, but, but, you know, it's like you can't even. I don't even know where to start with that conversation with you. And it's, it is. What they've successfully done is they've, they've made it so convoluted where, like, once you see it, you can track it all and it makes a lot of sense. And it's like epiphany after connection after epiphany after connection. But until you get to that point where you're even willing to entertain that. I am. I'm speaking Chinese to this dude on, on Facebook and I sound genuinely. I haven't been aware of how schizophrenic I sound in quite some time because I'm talking to people who sound more schizophrenic than me. And, and so, no, it doesn't even register. The audience goes, yeah, checks out. The guest goes, yeah, checks out. I go back to Facebook and they're like, in a cage with you, sir. You disgust me. You don't make any sense. You're talking gibberish. I, I want to go back to. Because we, we, we promised the people this, and this is very important to me. The Jews. Now we're kind of, we, We've kind.
Top Lobster
Of hopped, hop, skipped and jumped over the trans. Shooter over everything.
David Lee Corbo
Well, that's where I'm going. To Charlie Kirk, more specifically now. Now you're. You had a bit of a gripe with him and then you realized that you hadn't really been absorbing his content.
Top Lobster
I still do have a bit of a gripe with him. There's a video that, that Popped up again. They're like, oh, look. He was like, really? Like, this is. You know, people are saying that he hated gays, but here he is, and he's talking about, like, Lady Maga. And he's like, well, you know, she's a lady.
Austin Picard
And.
Top Lobster
And she was like, this is kind of what got you killed, dog.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah, it's like in that line. Yeah.
Top Lobster
Toe in that line. Not understanding that you're dealing with crazy.
David Lee Corbo
Yes.
Top Lobster
And there is no, in my opinion, no room for tolerance. There's no. There's not really a gray area here.
David Lee Corbo
Well, it looks to me like Charlie was picked. He was picked up at, like, 17 by Zionists and even younger, I think, And. And they basically, like, paved the way for him. And he had a lot of good ideas, but they're, you know, obviously making him toe a line. So. So this is where we land today. It's. It's. It's September 15th. So five days since the shooting, and more or less, what's come to the forefront is Charlie toed the line for Israel and a couple of bad ideas for a while, made a lot of excuses about what was happening in Gaza. And so even though they shot him because they thought he was an extremist, a lot of people, especially on Twitter, said, he's not going far enough stuff. He's captured by the Jews. Now it seems that Charlie, in the days leading up to it, was willing to start to explore these ideas of, you know, October 7th and. And, you know, how strange that entire situation seemed. There are people that are close to him. We talked about it with. With Brian, where this guy is saying, Charlie is telling people that are close to him that he's worried they're gonna kill him. And. And. And then, of course, Benjamin Netanyahu is like the first person.
Austin Picard
The.
David Lee Corbo
The Jerusalem Times, or whatever the name of their news publication, is one of the first things that reports the death of Charlie Kirk. That's very strange. In a. In a speech, Benjamin Netanyahu says, you know, very sorry to hear about what happened to Charlie Kirk, by the way, we're taking Gaza. So it's. The whole thing is very strange. And now it looks like there is a big divide on Twitter.
Austin Picard
Twitter.
David Lee Corbo
If you think the Jews did it, well, then you are just consumed by Jew fever and you're an. Or the other side, where you're going. I don't know. He kind of seemed to be afraid that they were going to kill him. He was getting a little critical towards the end there about Israel. And this Benjamin Netanyahu thing isn't helping.
Top Lobster
Now there's also the news where he was invited back to Israel because when you get off the plantation a little bit, they go, hey, come on back.
David Lee Corbo
Much commitment.
Top Lobster
And I don't really know what they tell you there, but you definitely touch a wall. And it didn't seem like Charlie was into that.
Austin Picard
And then he allegedly rejected that offer by Netanyahu. Right. When he gave him a call in like May or no, maybe the letter that Charlie allegedly wrote to Netanyahu was sent in May. I think that was what Netanyahu first said. And then he said that I just talked to him a couple weeks ago and gave him the invitation. He called him specifically and invited him to Israel. Yeah. And the news came out that, that by Max Blumenthal from the Gray Zone. Right. Who he claims that he's really great on Gaza. He's definitely more leftist, you know, than, as far as politically speaking, I think economically more than anything. But you know, he's, he's one of those types, but he's still very valuable with foreign policy and things of that nature. But, but yeah, he, he definitely was. He. What he claimed in the Gray Zone article is that essentially Charlie Kirk refused Netanyahu's funding offer, was frightened by pro Israel forces before his death. And this was revealed by a close friend who's apparently involved with Trump at a certain level as well, which that, that ties back by the way. I think the parents are important as far as even with Charlie Kirk, not only with the perpetrator, but with, with Kirk himself. I think one, there's not a lot out there in regard to them. And what I did find is somewhat suspicious in my mind. And also that the father fully funded the Turning Point organization from the beginning, which I found very interesting. He put up significant funds for, for Charlie to even begin in, in this sort of racket. And, and then yeah, you guys mentioned that obviously the Israeli connections you have the Ben Shapiro taking over Turning Point. Obviously.
David Lee Corbo
Dude, that's really crazy to me. He now takes over Turning Point. Like that is that. And it makes you look at that situation where, you know, there was this, whatever was going on with Tim Cast and, and the Daily Wire, and then all of a sudden Tim has a closed door meeting with Benjamin Netanyahu.
Top Lobster
Dude, man, the day I, I know I've told you about, like when I, I went on Tim Cast with, with, with Clint a long time ago and I was like, Tim is an. But I'm starting to like really rethink my stance on that because the day that we went there was that, like, big drive between the Daily Wire and Louder with Crowder. And apparently there's a lot more to these agencies than I thought previously. I thought they look like media companies that spread right wing, right? And I just. The more that I look into it, I'm like, yeah, that would make me panic, too.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
Top Lobster
These guys, like these two. These two monsters, or. I mean, I wouldn't. I'm not sure where Crowder fits in that. But, like, you definitely have a monster in the Daily Wire, and there are contract negotiation issues there. There's money issues. One person's lying, There's a little bit of a fallout, and Tim is in full blown panic.
David Lee Corbo
Remember the whole Israel derangement syndrome kind of epidemic thing? Like, Tim kept freaking out, I mean, screaming at his guests. Right.
Top Lobster
When I say distress, though, like, I. I've asked multiple people who've been on his show before. I'm like, yo, did he. Was he kind of like an asshole? And they were like, yeah, but I think what I saw was a little bit more like he didn't even come down from the room to, like, say what's up to people? He's. I think he's just a regular artistic dude that. That doesn't, like, do contact well. And I understand that. I know a lot of people like that. But I was like, this was different. Like, he was, like, stressed, stressed. High level stress. And I was like, I never want to go back to this place. It was a horrible experience.
David Lee Corbo
I used to listen to him, but then when he would get into those screaming fits, it was like, what about what's happening here? What about what's happening there? You don't care about what's happening in the Congo.
Top Lobster
I don't envy. I don't envy him. I actually feel bad because I feel like a lot of these people set out to do a thing. They set out like. Like, we're setting out to do a show. We're setting out to talk about certain things. You know, Know, in the end, I would like this show to point back at Jesus Christ more than anything, but I. I can only imagine if it gets to a point where you have to be worried every second you say, what a. What a miserable.
David Lee Corbo
It's like, we. We have to keep this show, like one that you can't put your hands on, right? Like, one that if you're a marketing team, like, you know, like a Jewish marketing team, you would look at this show and you. This trash. We don't want anything to do with this. Trash. This trash is.
Top Lobster
Yeah. For the audio listeners. Just totally normal stuff happening here.
David Lee Corbo
Bad show. And you don't want to invest in it. You don't want anything to do with it.
Top Lobster
Because these two guys, this is our last episode.
David Lee Corbo
Are not influential. We're not promising influencers.
Top Lobster
But there's something, there is something definitely weird about it. And on second thought, it's kind of like, I don't know, like perhaps I've judged you too harshly or perhaps I, I didn't know. I don't know what's going on. I, I Not per.
Austin Picard
Laps.
Top Lobster
I don't know what you guys are doing.
David Lee Corbo
It's the same thing, dog.
Top Lobster
When it's not good, it's not what everyone sees.
David Lee Corbo
It ain't on the up and up.
Top Lobster
Yeah.
David Lee Corbo
When we, when we bust the balls of Jordan Peterson and, and then you look at the.
Top Lobster
I got a lot of sympathy for Jordan these days.
David Lee Corbo
The mess that he was when he came back. The mess of a human being he was when he came back. What happened? I think these people, you know, this is the Cass Sunstein cognitive infiltration. It's not a light touch. Right. They're not just getting a guy and, and putting him as the silly, lovable host of a podcast. They are grabbing the, the people who are the most promising in the podcasting community and they're throttling them. They're butt them. I think is, is what, how long until David has an accidental discharge.
Top Lobster
Of the anus or the.
David Lee Corbo
Well, that happens relatively often. But that, that whole idea of infiltrating a conspiracy movement and then implanting your people, that's not a soft touch thing. That's a we're gonna kill your family thing. Yeah, that's what I think. And, and, and it seems, I don't know, from, from this point where we're standing here five days after the shooting, it seems glaringly obvious to me. And I, I could be wrong. Maybe I have a Jewish fever, whatever it's called called.
Top Lobster
But I, I just, I get, I get a really bad feeling like, so we, we have episodes like this on the show. But, I mean, I'd say, man, probably nine out of the ten episodes we're doing, we're dealing with, like, spiritual warfare. We're talking about crypto. We're talking about, like, more of the fun conspiracy. But I just have a feeling that that is not going to be safe.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
Top Lobster
Soon, like the way that we're moving at, at this breakneck speed, like, like, like he said, you know, in some of these documentations, they're talking about, like, demonic entities behind MK Ultra. I'm like, we're talking about this. It's not very cool.
David Lee Corbo
Oh my God. That's a good point.
Top Lobster
Not cool.
David Lee Corbo
We're making T shirts about this.
Top Lobster
Yeah.
David Lee Corbo
Binaural Beat down baby. MK Ultra dolphins. This is it. We're wearing. We're wearing it. We're literally going outside with it on our chest. Yeah, you too, Austin. I mean, you are in the, the nitty gritty of it. At least we're over here being Silly Goose. And I got this. These silly characters stomping this guy out of my shirt. You're like saying names and dates and all the. In the history of it. And I thank God that I am too know any of that or remember any of that. It's, it's, it's my saving grace, I think, is every time they look over, they see me pointing a gun at the screen and they go, ah, not this guy. Don't worry about it. But you, that's a different story, dude.
Austin Picard
Dude. Well, I, I will say that I think, and this is no character assassination. I don't know any of these people personally, and I always try to refer back to that specifically if I'm trying to come to a firm conclusion on, on someone's kind of like, just as far as. If they had any real integrity tied back to the foundation of this sort of movement in the, in the alternative media space. Right. The landscape itself. Because I view Charlie Kirk as far, far more of like a. And this is nothing against conservative family values. I obviously appreciate that aspect of, of what he was attempting to kind of at least allegedly propagandize the youth. Re. Propagandize that he write. It's just, it's a new, newer, Just.
David Lee Corbo
A different type of propaganda.
Austin Picard
Yeah, exactly, exactly. And, and so me personally, I just always viewed him as some sort of paid shilling who was essentially running the defense for the permanent establishment. And another reason why, it's like, you know, why else would. Would you go out of your way to defend that, that ridiculous signature and things of that nature? It's like I could see where you're acting in, in good faith, and this is an honest, devil's advocate sort of situation. But, but when, when you're just set on that path of, of forward momentum or upward momentum, and, and you have, you, you kind of have all of the tools provided to you by the very insulated, unaccountable establishment, that's, that's driving us in the wrong direction. Then what value are you to me?
David Lee Corbo
Oh yeah, these people aren't a value to, to people like, like you or people like us. I mean, he was definitely gifted some things, but there are things that he wasn't gifted. Like he was very, very smart. His information recall was great and his delivery method was like, there's certain things you can't teach. He was articulate, he was sharp as attack. But yeah, there was very obvious areas where he was running. But then, then it becomes, you know, because you're saying integrity within this community, at what point can your integrity be bought? If not with finances, then with violence or the promise of, of true.
Austin Picard
And, and you know, it's, it's hard for me because I personally do view so much of the Israeli narrative that forms around many of these events, especially in, in recent history, obviously considering the Gaza genocide. Now my mind, it's of mutual benefit to the globalist playbook. This is what you do. This is just a geographical sort of, you know, conflict that it was always in the cards and, and intended to be achieved right at, at a foreign policy standpoint, as far as I'm concerned, this was always the goal to completely, you know, extinguish the Palestinian people and, and yeah, and bring in what, Gaza 2025. Right. The, the new AI, uh, uh, smart city infrastructure which they claim is going to replace that of, of the forsaken Palestinian people. Right. Essentially. And, and, and we'll have Trump's of sort of a golden statue and everything will be. It's just ridiculous to me that, that honestly it's hard for me because I, I see Netanyahu as just a, another puppet. Right. I think he's, he's a puppet who's, who's sort of out in front and running this agenda on behalf of the power cabal behind the scenes. This is what they do do. And so this is why he was thrust on the, the Israeli public. He was facing criminal charges, he was supposed to go to prison. He had no political capital whatsoever. And so the Likudnik party decided, okay, we'll just, we'll just pick him back out of the, you know, the usual suspects that we utilize in this, in this sort of format and we'll, we'll place him back in power in order to, let's say, go down with the sinking ship that is the Gaza genocide. That's what's going to happen. There will be ultimate consequences as far as on the world stage and is specifically with the power paradigm in Israel, but I don't think that in any way will it derail the ultimate agenda playing out with and how this conflict was intended to essentially manifest. And, and so once more, I see no difference in the swing of the political, you know, pendulum. It makes no difference to me because we're heading in the exact same dystopian direction. And so I see Israel as a wonderful distractionary tool in terms of the globalist agenda playing out and how much it keeps people from actually discussing who the true power brokers are in this format here and in the structured power paradigm. And, and it's difficult for most people to even, I think, kind of catch a glimpse into the underlying power structure because it's not very, it's hard to even can conceptualize. You know, it takes a lot of work to, to be able to even kind of feel as if you, you've been provided certain windows and, and you can have some kind of like even a. Just a. Obviously it's an, it's an ever, let's say, evolving kind of interpretation of what it's become and what it, where it came from and the reason why it's been sort of structured in this way. But it's always to insulate themselves from accountability. And so no way do I view the political puppets, you know, as, as the true power brokers. They're just supposed to take the bullets from the general public on behalf of the power cabal while they remain insulated and, and, and behind the scenes. And so I, I view it as we need to force open that very thick curtain disguising the political theater, my friend. Right. Like that is, I think, think what we should always be attempting to do because who is that man behind the curtain? Right? And I think that it's not Trump and it's not Netanyahu. In my mind. These are, you know, generational assets of the permanent establishment. There's a reason why Royal Casino International and Roy Cohn was his mentor. He's been drenched in sexual blackmail, you know, sophisticated techniques for, for his entire life. You see him with Roy cone at the costume party wearing makeup like he's his little. Like, what is that? You know, and then he goes and he accumulates all these, you know, sexual blackmail assets, like Adnan Khashoggi's yacht that's already rigged with audio visual blackmail, like. And then he goes and buys the exact hotel Roy Cohn used to utilize for the Blue Sweet parties when he decides to sexually blackmail J. Edgar Hoover. So. Oh, this is nothing new. I, you know, I'm getting sick of.
Top Lobster
Of people like what.
Austin Picard
What happened the day of Charlie Kirk died the Republicans blocked the Epstein files release. Like nobody even, I mean, I, look.
David Lee Corbo
We'Re very far from even talking about that again now.
Austin Picard
Exactly. And, and how is that not convenient, especially for the current administration when you consider the, you know, in my mind. And I, I found this insane because as far as just the recent revelation of the birthday book, right, and some of the crazy accusations and, and it just sort of reconfirmed much of what we already knew at a certain level, right? But to actually see there's footage of like him with a redacted version of the girl on his arm and they're like, this is his girlfriend and we think he belongs to the CIA. Basically he works for the CIA. And, and that was one part of it. But then there's a whole chapter dedicated to children and it's like color coloring, right? And, and from the narration of a child and they talk about pooping on the floor and like it's so strange, dude. And, and, and, but, but then again, with what, what happened is the FBI, they decide to come out and make a claim which to me sounded like this is sort of controlling the narrative and attempted course correction. If you're the current administration, at least for leverage as a political football call against the Democrats. Because if you're considering they're still going to utilize that two party delusion as a paradigm for the general public, then then obviously what you would want is, hey, I'm not the only pedophile. Trump would say, right? As, as he points to Anthony Weiner's laptop, which is basically what, what happened with this report is that the FBI claims they're now going to open this internal investigation into whether its own agents obstruct constructed, quote, politically sensitive cases, including the COVID up of the Anthony Weiner laptop. So I think, okay, well, that could be political cannon fodder in terms of Hillary Clinton and Uma Abedin. Hey, look, the Democrats are pedophiles too, you know, and it could at least sort of help save face at a minimal, in minimal way in, in terms of Trump himself and, and how they kind of continue forward during this current. Right.
David Lee Corbo
I'll tell you what though, you know, these, these moments as, as obvious as it is that it's obfuscation and it is, it's furthering the political cultural divide. And all these things that we talked about here, just dipping my foot on, on Facebook indicates it worked really, really, really well. Like so well, dude, like, it's, it's incredible that, that nobody. I, I thought for sure some of the arguments that I got in the appeal to like, hey, conservatives are, are not that much better than the left. You know, I think that the left is very wrong and conservatives are in a slightly better place than them, but ultimately they're both. Because the game that's being played is political espionage. It's, it's, you know, engineering revolutions. It's obfuscation, it's smoke screens, it's fog of war. It's. It's, you know, all of this stuff that goes way over the general public's head. And I thought, well, for sure, saying both sides are. And that the, you know, whatever you want to call them, the elites are playing you as a fool and pitting you against one another would. Would garner some and not sympathy to my plate, but at least like a. Okay, go on. And it was deaf ears. In fact, they thought that was retarded started and I go, oh my God, how far have we come? I thought we were making progress. I live in an echo chamber.
Top Lobster
It's so multi layered and sophisticated. And it's like, that's why I'm glad that we have, you know, we have like this sort of. It's almost beautiful. And when we, we should, we should. I don't know how we're even gonna release the William Ramsey one, but like in tandem. William Ramsey to set the table. And then this episode here, this is like part two.
Austin Picard
Yeah, Yeah.
Top Lobster
I was talking to our friend Matt at the coffee shop. I'm trying to explain to him was like, he's like, how do you really think like Israel? And I'm just like, you know, man, it's a lot crazier than you think. You. There's a lot more history to understand and just like even current history that you just don't see. So it's like. But this episode serves as a really good starting point for people interested.
David Lee Corbo
I think so.
Top Lobster
But it's still, it's still hard.
David Lee Corbo
Jack Burton says Facebook is. Is Boomer psyop land, dude. I'm talking to millennials. They're spiritually boomers. I know that. But like, I'm talking to millennials. We grew up with punk rock, right? And, and which was anti establishment and anti government and anti corporation, anti big bank. You know, this, these were the things that we, that's the music that we grew up on was, was, was spreading that sort of a message. And now somehow we've come to this place where unironically it's, it's gay. And to look at the government as if. And it's like, you know, obviously you have to have more nuance in that. What are we talking about? The government? Even that. That is like, we're not talking about the guys that fix the roads and. But, like, let's just use round terminologies that everybody can understand. The government doesn't give a. About you and is happy when you fight in the mud amongst yourselves so that they can continue with whatever run of the mill corruption they have planned. Right. That's. We can understand that. No. No, we can't. Conservatives are gay. Gay is what. Is what I'm getting on on Facebook. Well, they don't say gay because they're not fun. They're like, you want to be cucked for conservatism. It's like, you don't have anything to conserve. You childless, jobless, and your entire thing is just caught up in being so full of disdain for the world that never went your way because you were born ugly. Whatever.
Top Lobster
Yeah, but look, now we're caught in that conversation.
David Lee Corbo
Well, because it's like, first I have to shame you, but I'll have to identify what you are. And I have to say, hey, but we're playing the wrong game.
Top Lobster
I've got to have, like, I can't even. I can't even have the conversation that Austin's having because I have to have this conversation. This is how jammed up.
David Lee Corbo
You got to lower yourself to engage with this really bad, obvious idea first. And then once we've done that, now I can bring you up here above the water a little bit.
Top Lobster
I don't even know if we have to, but it's kind of like, yeah, I guess if you.
David Lee Corbo
No, you don't have to. You're absolutely correct. You don't have.
Top Lobster
You want to live next to these people. You have to. But it's crazy.
David Lee Corbo
It's. It's frustrating, man. It's frustrating because it is. You're, like, trying to. You. You almost have to just drop a whole segment of the population because in order to try to appeal to them, you have to, like, first convince them that you understand the game they're playing. And then once you understand and you lay it out for them enough, then you could be like, but look, there's a game above it that's. And it's wasted time.
Top Lobster
It's wasted time.
David Lee Corbo
It's wasted time. And it. And it. And it sucks, but you gotta just drop them. And I just think it's crazy because we're talking about, like I said, millennials. What are we doing here? The.
Austin Picard
The.
David Lee Corbo
The programming, the MK Ultra, We're Waiting.
Top Lobster
For the next psyop. That's all. I mean that's what I feel like. We're just like, we're just talking about it and we're just like, well, what's the next one gonna be? I'm not, I'm kind of interested in the story at this point, but absolutely.
Austin Picard
See how it play out. Plays out in terms of the trial because if he's seriously not cooperating whatsoever, is allegedly being kept in like this high security detail, this high security ward, obviously for his own, his own good. Right. His own benefits so he doesn't self harm. Harm. I'm sure he's in a smock and being flooded with pharmaceutical agents to keep him in a dissociative state. I would imagine. Who knows that that would, I would be far more just as far as like I would suspect that they would come down with some sort of, uh, confession if that were the case, because they even attempted to use a truth serum on, on uh, James Holmes during, during that trial, which is hilarious and unprecedented and violates your fifth Amendment rights instantly, obviously. But, but he was completely showing signs of split personality. And they, and they legitimately admitted that much throughout the trial that, that he had developed split personality disorder. But, you know, that had never been the case. Although they did fundamentally like come up with this interesting background utilizing, I feel like a compromised therapist from day one when, when he was a young person seeing nail ghosts, allegedly, or hearing nail ghosts tap on the wall or something was, was allegedly what they claim.
David Lee Corbo
But I think he's saying that in his, in his youth he had like ghosts tapping on the wall with their nails.
Austin Picard
Yeah, it's very strange what, what James Holmes said was during his childhood he was frightened of what he called nail ghosts that would hammer on the walls at night. Holmes saw social worker Margaret Ross Roth once before she sent him to psychiatrist Lynn Fenton. And it was Dr. Lynn Fenton who legitimately was his therapist for like, you know, almost 10 years or something. It was like a long time that she was his therapist from a young age. And, and she's the one who gives the, the false constructed psychological character eval. And like as soon as she gives the psych eval, it seems to like bury him in a way and drive the nail into the coffin of his case. And, and you have to rely on, on, I believe it was Menser, I'm trying to remember the last name of the, the other psychiatrist who. This, this guy came out, he ran his own psych eval and he, he countered everything she had to say. In. In. In a much more plausible way. Right. It was far more convincing. And. And he definitely convinced me, as far as he. He still obviously believed that. That James Holmes had developed schizophrenia at some point. Right. And was definitely suffering from split personality. But. But yeah, he definitely feels as if it. At least in the context of that psych eval, that's the one you should go and look at. But it's fascinating stuff as far as.
David Lee Corbo
So it sounds to me like you've got, you know, from. From an early age, he's experienced some sort of trauma that created a state of disassociation. And then he's experiencing demonic possession or demonic oppression. And. And, you know, the. The medical industry dismisses it as a, you know, chemical brain and whatever. You know, just. He's broken. There's just something wrong with him. It's like, man, always for the.
Top Lobster
For the audience that's all gonna listen to that doesn't want to hear about this, like, about demonic oppression and possession. I've been struggling with this idea myself that, like, if we do have these technologies that work in the same way as demonic possession or oppression, like, who's to tell the difference at this point? But I do think that the technology is the same. I think that people who are inhabited by demons, let's say in the day of Jesus, they're able to inhabit a certain frequency in someone's brain. And I don't know if they can control their thoughts, but they can definitely invade. And now you just have, you know, somebody from the CIA that's like, hey, man, do this. It's like there is no difference in the technique. I guess that maybe the messenger.
David Lee Corbo
But who.
Austin Picard
Who's.
Top Lobster
Who's, like, asking this messenger to do that? That's a different question.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
Austin Picard
So absolutely. This is.
Top Lobster
We have to get comfortable with that idea.
Austin Picard
Oh, yeah, no doubt. And I think that I remember in the Manchurian, Sinatra's character says that their magic is more powerful than my magic. And I thought that was interesting, especially considering the idea that, you know, you're fundamentally engaging in dark magic at a certain level. Level, you know, And I think that that's very interesting as far as how much they. They attempted to kind of. He believed that he could pull out Raymond out of the programming. You know, he thought that I could remember. He brings a stack deck, a stack deck of nothing but queen, queen of diamonds. And he tries to break him out of the layers of programming and reprogram him in a certain way, but also tell him, you're free now. And he. He did not disrupt the actual, you know, pre programming that had taken place. He just kind of provided him with a set of instructions for a brief moment, but it could easily be undone. And I think that's what people don't realize is that there are layers to the trigger mechanisms that I didn't understand existed. And, and this is what they claim. Dr. Robert Duncan, that Harvard professor who, who he claimed that he interviewed, like it was such a staggering number of, of individuals claiming that they were members of a modern Manchurian program. And it's fascinating to me because this guy is a Harvard graduate. He, and he wrote the book Project Soul Catcher, Secrets of Cyber and Cybernetics Warfare Revealed. And it's like a, it's a very high level book as far as some of the technological descriptions and details. It's a little above my, my intelligence level as far as some, some of the. I think you have to be a little bit more kind of in. Engaged in the industry itself to understand some of it because it is interesting as far as how much cybernetics play a role in modern day. But, but he says he personally interviewed more than 650 people. He says this in 2012, the same year that James Holmes and, well, Aurora and, and Sandy Hook happened. And, and when did the Boston Marathon bombing happen?
David Lee Corbo
Happen a good deal after that, right? 20? I was gonna say 2016. I'm not sure.
Top Lobster
2014.
David Lee Corbo
2014.
Top Lobster
We'll look at it.
Austin Picard
Hey, would, would you be. Is it okay if I go take a piss real quick? I'll be right.
David Lee Corbo
Go for it, dude. Go for it.
Austin Picard
Appreciate it.
David Lee Corbo
Actually, this would be a good time to Nancy, say hello.
Top Lobster
Oh, Nancy's here. When she popped in, I was like, we have to kick the pores out now. We do have to.
David Lee Corbo
Hi, Nancy. Oh, oh, we haven't brought her on stage. Unbelievable. We got to bring her on stage. She unmuted her mic and. And made no noise. Say hello to the people, Nancy. 2013. Very nice. She's like, I don't have time for hellos. I'm doing all business.
Austin Picard
There we go.
David Lee Corbo
Thank you. It's good to hear you, Nancy. Are you doing all right?
Austin Picard
Yeah, that's good.
Top Lobster
That's it. That's about enough from this.
David Lee Corbo
That's enough from Nancy.
Top Lobster
This episode is.
David Lee Corbo
It's brought to you by mk.
Top Lobster
It's deeper than. Every time he comes on, we reach a new level of seriousness that I didn't think was possible before.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah, yeah. It's all. You know, I was watching that Sam Hyde clip and, and Sam is Saying in one of the clips, buy a gun. Buy a gun. Don't say things on the Internet like around and find out. Don't, you know, engage in this thing where you're calling people Karens and stuff. Don't go and meet up, but buy a gun and protect your loved ones. And I'm like, I, you know, I try not to be alarmist and hyperbolic. Even though that sounds like, I mean like maybe some people would listen to our show and be like, that's certainly not true.
Austin Picard
True.
David Lee Corbo
But I, you know, I'm always gonna tell you, don't go to a meetup. Don't go to a White Lives Matter rally. Don't, don't do this sort of thing. Don't mobilize Austin's back. But it is very hard for me to say. As a guy who carries everywhere I go, it is very hard for me to say that there's anything wrong with that message. It's just kind of, it's a little jarring to hear that message and to see it spreading in virality and to use that as a gauge of where we are.
Top Lobster
It's because there's like, like as Austin, Austin's describing what I think is the actual battle, but there still has been like, there's been multiple micro battles that they've laid out in front of you. This is a big one. Whether, whether it's true or not, the, the idea of the trans shooter or the trans adjacent shooter is moving forward and the divide between the left and the right is moving forward.
David Lee Corbo
There's nothing almost fully parted now.
Top Lobster
Yeah, there's nothing we can do about it. We can, we can actually like debunk this and say who. If somebody was the actual killer or listen, this guy could have very well been the actual killer.
David Lee Corbo
But then, but it almost doesn't matter because you can't untrans these kids.
Top Lobster
Then we have to get into the discussion of mind control techniques and who's behind that. And you will never find that out. There is no, no reliable way to know that.
David Lee Corbo
And then good luck even spreading that information if you did figure it out. Right. Spread that information. Beat the cultural wave that's coming. I don't think you can. What do you think about that, Austin, when watching Sam Hyde and he's saying, and I know you're, you're in, you're in California, get a gun. Don't engage in this kind of rhetoric on the Internet like, you know, fafo, like around and find out. Don't, don't engage in the calling People Karens or any of this stuff. Stuff. But get a gun and protect your loved ones. That was, it was really like the core of what he was.
Top Lobster
It's interesting as well. I think the day of the assassination of Charlie Kirk, Florida passes or they, they open like Gary. They don't necessarily, they don't pass.
David Lee Corbo
They seem the ban unconstitutional.
Top Lobster
Yes. That same day. So I'm like, it's, it's like there's a multiple things going on. It's almost like the rest of the nation's going to call for gun control. And they're like, it's a signal like, hey, Florida is a place where we want, want this group of people to go.
David Lee Corbo
Which by the way, I, I highly recommend do not open carry because it's just silly to ever.
Top Lobster
I've been warning David against that. It's a, it's.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah, you just don't want people to know what you have.
Top Lobster
It's an invitation for trouble. Although I, I appreciate the gesture of the state doing it.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah, I think it's a win ultimately. But you know, we watched on, on Timeline Cleanse one time, this guy, he's in a bodega and he's a white dude and he's got his gun, it's like in his pocket. And long story short, couple black dudes snuck up behind him, pulled it out of his pocket. He starts getting in a back and forth. I honestly, they left and he goes to pursue them. I would have left out the back door and said it looks like I lost my gun. But he pursued them. They shot and killed him with his own gun. Don't show people what you have. I lived in Las Vegas where open carry was permitted and it was a weird vibe. Was a really weird vibe. I remember going to Walmart. There was a girl with pink hair and a girl with, with teal hair. They were, they were lesbians and they were dressed in black and in tactical gear with their guns on their hips and with combat boots. Like they were each like the goth Laura Croft. And I'm going, what is this? What is this? You're just shopping casually in Walmart and you're dressed like video game characters. It was, it was very strange.
Top Lobster
Open carry works in a society that's not pharmaceutically driven. I think.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah, that's a great, great point. But what do you think about that message from, from Sam Hyde? Not just the, the validity of doing those things, but also its virality, the way that it's resonating with people, culturally speaking.
Austin Picard
I think it, it's only going to, you know, have some serious impact on kind of, I think, influencing the escalation of the culture war itself. And, and this sort of, you know, in my mind, it is. I think the political divisiveness is. Is definitely sort of the desired result. Right. Political violence to be at an all time high is what they hope we interpret from this. And it is somewhat accurate. Right. As far as I'm concerned. But you go back in. In. Throughout the course of history, and it's. There's been a lot of political violence. Violence over the years, obviously. Right. And. And we're all kind of, you know, prisoners of the moment and prisoners of our own experience. And. And inherently we're all just waking up like in the Big Lebowski when he's like, telling Donnie, you're like a child who wandered into the middle of a movie theater. It's like you're trying to figure out the plot. And. And I think most people have. Have essentially missed the boat, you know, more. More often. Than not. And. And that is also structured strategically to kind of like socially engineer us into that place. And, And. And so I, I view it all as. As, yes, obviously, protect your family. Yeah. Get. Get a gun. Definitely. I think you need to have the defense mechanism and the tools in place to. To at least in. In some sort of emergency situation, you have what it takes to defend your family and yourself. But. But as far as, like, you know, this viral concept of. This is literally the idea of we're at war. This is what they're saying, like, we're at war at home.
Top Lobster
And producer Nancy wants to know if. If we should invest in a cell phone gun.
David Lee Corbo
Oh, I would like a cell phone gun.
Top Lobster
Is that just a conspiracy theory?
David Lee Corbo
No, I like the cell phone gun is. Is real. The cell phone and. And like credit card shaped guns, a little rectangular ones, are real.
Top Lobster
It's just all too much. We've been bukkake with Saya. But sorry, to distract from what you're saying, like, we are headed towards something.
Austin Picard
This. This is going to become. I think the crescendo is. Is happening. But like, I'm. I'm just curious because I always see this, the. The legislative impact. Right. Because clearly there's. There was a. Instantly you had a kind of reaction to this, and I believe it was Anna Paulina Luna went on Benny Johnson. Right. One of the usual. I don't trust that it's a former prostitute. No. Former stripper. My bad.
David Lee Corbo
Wow. Hey, dude. Geez. Please, not a lady of the night. We're talking A performer, a dancer, an artist. Relax.
Austin Picard
My bad, my bad.
Top Lobster
Geez.
Austin Picard
But. But I will say that, like, instantly, the Pentagon bans. Is. Is banned from boycotting Israel. Right. And then you have a bill that is pushed to revoke citizenship for criticizing Israel, which I found insane. And that was.
David Lee Corbo
That was crazy.
Austin Picard
That was promoted by Lauren Boebert. After she got done jacking off some dude in the theater. She went directly to the Senate and, Or. Or the House, so I can't remember. What is she. She's a representative of some kind.
David Lee Corbo
She's a lady of the night.
Austin Picard
It was the House. Yeah. So she. She goes to the House and she essentially proposes this bill barring federal contractors from boycotting Israel. And, and so, again, you know, this is clearly some sort of a pretext, right, For. For just implementing more landmark legislation which will effectively, you know, push us. Us more in the. That sort of dystopian direction. And. And then there's an approval of. Of. Of a major spending increase. And. And Israel gets another $650 million. And Marco Rubio goes and bends the knee and kisses the wall all during the humiliation. Humiliation ritual that is Charlie Kirk's wife. I don't know what she's up to. She's very. I'm very skeptical of this entire situation. I'm not trying to condemn her. I know I don't know these people. I feel very bad that any political violence, obviously, at the very least, I think it solves nothing. And it only. Certainly in my mind, at every level, it will only achieve the worst possible, consequential outcome in. In. In terms of the state. But I. I do think that it's important to seriously question every single detail of this, because from every level, we've know these statements. Yeah. And the statements from.
David Lee Corbo
Well, well, let me. Let me just set the stage a little bit. I want to get into this whole thing. We only have a little bit of time left. You know, the. The whole thing is strange. There's all this speculation as to whether or not Charlie has actually been shot. Right. We've. We've seen all kinds of different angles, all kinds of different explanations. There's a. A pack under his shirt. There's this and that. She's holding his hand. She's shooting this video with his. His body, with his corpse at this week at this funeral. His hands look like plastic. I have been around. I've had loved ones.
Top Lobster
That's how dead people say.
David Lee Corbo
That's what I'm saying. There's a lot around dead people. Their hands. Look, you Know, they look.
Top Lobster
So there's a lot of. There's a lot of, like, stupidity. There's a. Well, Charlie Kirk has been replaced. And then they put a picture of AI Charlie Kirk next to a picture of Charlie Kirk, and they go, his teeth are different. I go, well, this is just AI inhale pants. They're talking about, well, oh, well, his button was. I don't know. The button was not done in his casket. His hands aren't. This is the hands of a dummy. He's like these. These are the hands of a person who, when their blood is drained out. Drained out of them.
David Lee Corbo
The. The morgue has to paint makeup, and.
Top Lobster
They paint their nails. So that way they have.
David Lee Corbo
She's got an appearance, a G on her thing. It's a Masonic G on her thing. Her parents.
Top Lobster
These. These are, like, legitimate things. Her parents are involved in some weird stuff.
Austin Picard
She has. Jesse.
Top Lobster
Metallic lies. Yeah.
Austin Picard
DOD contracts with the Department of Energy as well. I didn't realize that the dot.
David Lee Corbo
That's weird.
Top Lobster
Here's what strikes me that I guess that, you know, because, like, the conspiracy theories, just like, Mrs. It was like, listen, I. There is. There's sympathy to be had. This guy died. She lost her husband, the father of her children. Yes, sure. All these things. The video of her crying over her husband. Body is not. It's. It's unusual.
David Lee Corbo
A little distasteful maybe.
Top Lobster
Right. Okay. But here's the reality, though. Before these people post anything, this goes through a filter of like, four or five PR agents. They are master marketers. Yes, it was. I. I mean, clearly she was told to do it, or maybe she did it on their own, and then it was reviewed and they thought that this is great for whatever reason.
Austin Picard
Reason.
Top Lobster
You have to ask yourself why we're seeing it. If you want to look at the G on the ring, okay, fine. If you want to look at the dead hands, okay, fine. But why are we seeing this in general? And it's to stoke tensions more. There's an agenda that's being pushed. She gives a fiery message from his pot. Like, if I died and my wife was in this studio here giving a message, I'd ask every single one of you to say, what the. Is going on right now in his death?
Austin Picard
Right. That's. That's the first.
David Lee Corbo
But then the other thing is, like, people are like, oh, she's given this fiery speech. She's seems like she's full of hatred. I'm also like, well, if they. If. Yeah, I think my wife would probably be pretty mad.
Austin Picard
True.
Top Lobster
In Your chair?
David Lee Corbo
I have no idea. I don't think so.
Top Lobster
No, I don't think so either.
Austin Picard
It's strange about obviously 33 hours into the manhunt and yeah, more numerology on top of that. That to me makes it far more compelling. Right. Is the 666 being the, the date between him founding the Charlie Kirk Show. July 7, 2019 to Wednesday, September 10, the day he's assassinated. Six years, 66 days. Whoa.
David Lee Corbo
Do you. Okay, let's put one to bed. Do you think he was shot and killed?
Austin Picard
I do, Yeah. I, I do right now. But I, I definitely am open to the idea. I think it's, it's. It's very, very possible to. You already know. I. As far as hyper reality filmmaking that I, I've spoken on in terms of the Boston Marathon bombing, that's entirely possible. And another reason why I think they already had pre, pre filmed. I think that the assassination attempt on Trump was pre filmed. Honestly, I think it was all sort of already organized and this was a major theatrical event that took place. Yeah.
David Lee Corbo
Some of those like, inconsistencies with, with the sky and the cloud and the cloud coverage, like all kinds of weird. The whole thing was bizarre.
Top Lobster
You ever seen the inauguration of Joe Biden?
David Lee Corbo
Yeah, that was 2020.
Top Lobster
There's like a weird cut scene where like it does like this crossfade and Hunter Biden in the first scene has stepped off the stage and in the second scene he's back on this stage, but he's on the wrong side.
David Lee Corbo
But there's not supposed to be a time elapse. This is supposed to.
Top Lobster
No, it's alive. It's a live shot. So like. Yeah, this was not live. It really gets you. I think, I think he's dead. I think Charlie Kirk has died. But we're living in this reality of like post persuasion.
David Lee Corbo
You know what?
Top Lobster
The only reason I crazy I.
David Lee Corbo
The only reason I really think Charlie Kirk is dead though, is because of the way that like it felt in my gut. Like I'm all I used to say on timeline, cleanse, guts, nuts and stuff. Like, I'm not this, this date, remember? But I have like, pretty good discernment that seems to steer me one way or another. The way that felt, felt was like if it felt like I watched a dude die and it felt sad and it felt heavy and you know, so. But. But honestly, that's all I got going for me as far as certainty that he's dead.
Top Lobster
But then there's also that video. I know Sam shared it. There's a guy. It looks like he's in a subway station or something, and he's wearing the American Comeback Tour, and he's saying what he saw, and his friends just bum rush him.
Austin Picard
What? Is that not. Dude, I have the question too. I can. I can show you if you guys want.
Top Lobster
Yes.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah, let's. I haven't really. I've seen, like, a brief moment of it. I've kind of been removed from this situation because I'm. I'm waiting for the fog of war to settle.
Austin Picard
Right.
David Lee Corbo
This is crazy. Okay, so Shadow of Ezra, an eyewitness to Charlie Kirk's murder, was cut off mid account as people rushed in, grabbed him, and quickly silenced him before he could share the rest of what he saw. All right, yeah, let's. Let's let her rip.
Austin Picard
Okay. I was standing from probably the third.
David Lee Corbo
Row in the bottom.
Austin Picard
I saw hit.
David Lee Corbo
I heard the shot ring out.
Austin Picard
I looked to my left, and then I looked over to my right. I saw him slump over in his chair. Forward. He slumped over.
Top Lobster
He had blood coming from the left.
Austin Picard
Side of his neck down his shirt, and he slumped over and he was carried off.
David Lee Corbo
Get off me.
Austin Picard
What the. It's crazy, right?
David Lee Corbo
Running high right now.
Austin Picard
Interesting. I. I definitely think that. Hold on. There was one other thing I had to show you guys.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah, go ahead.
Austin Picard
Let's.
David Lee Corbo
Let's let her rip.
Austin Picard
I'm looking for the crazy real quick.
Top Lobster
That is just a crazy one right there.
Austin Picard
There it is. Oh, dude, we got the trans roommates photo finally.
David Lee Corbo
Oh, that's not even mildly convincing. Is that real? Look at how well his face fits. It's so weird how. Well, he's the most memed dude in the. In the world.
Top Lobster
We mean people in the presidencies. That's a. You know.
David Lee Corbo
That's true. Yeah, man. I don't know what to make of that because so far what he has had said didn't. Was there was nothing that, like. Wait, wait, what was that? You know, but we said it on the show when we watched it live during these early moments. It's like there's a fog of war thing where you can't make heads or tails of things. But then hindsight will show you. Some of those early videos that pop up are some of the most important ones to contradicting the official narrative. And I don't know what to make of. Of that one. It could just be some friends being like, yo, it's probably not a good idea. Like, you don't want to be. Be associated with talking about this.
Top Lobster
Why Are they all wearing a shirt as if they were working there, Right? Did they just buy that shirt?
David Lee Corbo
They were super big fans.
Austin Picard
My only devil's advocate point to that was potentially maybe in the moment you're hearing the descriptive nature of the explanation of what took place and it's fresh in everyone's memory and you're aggressively sort of like pushing back on because you're.
David Lee Corbo
Being interviewed about it.
Austin Picard
Yeah, true, but I was just thinking like individuals around were over emotional at the moment and so they were like aggressively reacting, trying to make it stop. Like that's my only context that I was thinking just to potentially justify that strange interaction. But it. Because he wasn't necessarily saying anything new yet. But of course they cut him off before he could potentially do that. But still, I was just wondering like as a way to explain it away in my own mind. But still I did find it definitely strange.
Top Lobster
But like, who was, who was he speaking with? Like, if I saw, let's say I saw Austin and we were in this sort of situation and Austin is giving an interview to Hassan Piker, but didn't recognize it, I might be like, yo, let's get the, let's get out of here, dude. And he'd be like, yo, I'm talking. I'm like, no, no, trust me, not this guy.
David Lee Corbo
That's really.
Top Lobster
I could understand. But. So who is the interviewee? Interviewer? I, I don't think it was really anybody of prominence to react that way. Is strange.
David Lee Corbo
It is weird too for him to be like, get off me. Like to his homies, like, damn, dude, like, this is a heated situation.
Austin Picard
Did you see.
David Lee Corbo
What. I'll see you in Valhalla. Which is like the whole thing is like. Like what is. What sense does this make? He's not, he's not, you know, a Viking. He's not a Norse mythology enjoyer. Neither are you Cash Patel. You, you come from, you know, the Vedic, the. The in that whole thing makes no sense. And then there was another thing. Oh, all of the haka dan, whatever the haka thing that was performed for Charlie Kirk. So I made a joke about it. I said, yeah, pagan demonic possession dance. Dance done for, you know, dead Christian. Like it doesn't make any sense. The whole what. So what exactly did Cash Patel say?
Austin Picard
Oh, well, I found this interesting because, well, clearly he did come out this morning, by the way, I found this interesting. There's like a three minute video of him talking. Well, not him, but the report basically about this DNA evidence that was found at the Charlie Kirk crime Scene links the suspect to the shooting. Shooting. Of course this is after he's in custody. And, and I think it's, it's very convenient for that to have taken place because you can, in my mind all you have to do is at this point they planted the gun in the first place in the bush. Are you kidding me? Like I, I still. How, how can you explain away the fact that there was no gun in that floppy bag that the dude is, is holding when he jumps off the roof? And beyond that, it looks as if in my mind what you would do is leave the gun anyway if you're an actual operative because that, that's what they would have the individuals in place to do and facilitate the COVID up, obviously. So you would already have that covered in my mind. And so it would have effectively just been left at, at the, the murder site right there. Right.
Top Lobster
Austin number one there, there are reports of a drone being in the area, so. Should have seen them. They probably did. They left them. But in the report that Cash Patel announced this morning, they found, they found DNA on the gun and from the, the perch or the nest that he was shooting from. And then they said they also they found it on a screwdriver. So now they're, what they're implying is that he takes the shot, he disassembles the gun somewhere in the vicinity. That's why when we see on the, the camera him going away, there is just like a bag or something, there is no gun on him.
Austin Picard
Him.
Top Lobster
Then he goes to a spot, reassembles the gun and then wraps it in a towel and leaves. Yeah, I mean if it makes sense to you, I guess. But that's like the, like I, I, I appreciate the detail of. Well, there was, you know, there was a screwdriver there on the roof. Well also if it they found, did they say they find the screwdriver on the roof?
Austin Picard
Yeah, I believe they did. Let me, let me pull it because.
Top Lobster
I put the gun back together with them.
Austin Picard
Exactly, exactly, exactly. And, and that's, that was the first thing that I thought as well. And yeah. What does it say? DNA on a towel wrapped around a rifle found near where conservative activist Charlie Kirk was assassinated matched that of 22 year old accused in the killing. This is what he claims yesterday. Invest or no today. Sorry. Investigators also have used DNA evidence to link the suspect Tyler Robinson with the screwdriver recovered from the rooftop where the fatal shot was fired. So yes, that, that is what they're claiming.
Top Lobster
I guess he put it back. Sometimes you could, you can take a screw and use your.
David Lee Corbo
Your finger if you push really hard. Yeah, yeah. It'll kind of like your finger will sink into the grooves. Yes, yeah. And you can. All right.
Austin Picard
My God, that is so strange. And. And when you look at. Oh, and by the way, dude. Well, first, just on the gun itself, I thought it was interesting as far as, like, the bullet has not been recovered. Right. The. That. And so you have this like, breakdown in the chain of custody as far as, like the ballistic evidence is concerned. Right. And I think that I found the.
David Lee Corbo
Bullet and it had like trans.
Austin Picard
No, that was the casing. That was a fire.
David Lee Corbo
And what did it say? Like, I used to have a dick, but now I have a vagina also.
Top Lobster
Let me ask you something. On the casing of a bullet, on the casing, not like the magazine. So like this, right?
Austin Picard
Yeah, yeah.
Top Lobster
Did they have pictures of that?
Austin Picard
No, that's the problem.
David Lee Corbo
I would love to see pictures of that because it was like trans messaging.
Top Lobster
You wouldn't.
David Lee Corbo
Like, what is dream?
Top Lobster
You wouldn't engrave a bullet? I wouldn't engrave a bullet.
David Lee Corbo
Like, what if you had a mussy.
Top Lobster
No, no. I mean, like, if you want. If you want the bullet to work correct ballistically from 200 yards, you're not going to engrave it like you would engrave your magazine or the gun itself. It just. That doesn't make any sense. And they're engraving it with a trans id. Ideological.
David Lee Corbo
I want to know what that trans. Ideological message is.
Top Lobster
It said like, oh, well, there it's written. But I haven't seen the pictures. Like owo and whatever. Like weird like that.
Austin Picard
Owo which notices bulges o w O.
David Lee Corbo
So I thought owo was like an anime kid note thing.
Austin Picard
Apparently it's a way to. That phrase specifically is apparently recycled as a troll against trans, which I didn't realize that. That apparently that. That is. Yeah, it's basically like, we see your dick, dude. And which is. I mean, that's. It's exactly what it is. But. But yeah, it was that. And then I think there was also. Hey, Fascist catch was one of them. But then there was an Italian phrase. I'm trying to remember what it was. Really. It's. It's interesting. Ciao bello, ciao bella. I think.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah. Why is that. Why is that associated? I thought that was just a classic, like, Italian song that. Now that's got something to do with. I. I'm so confused. I'm so out of the loop. I need an update on. On. On tranny lore.
Austin Picard
I know that's very interesting to actually see the, the interesting phrases that were written on Robert Westman's gun, or at least his cache of weapons as well. But y is. So the roommates had shared communications from a contact named Tyler on Discord. Now, Discord themselves, as an organization or a company, came out and. And rejected all of this as being the case. They said no, they actually identified the account itself and it was just an account by the name of Tyler. But these conversations did not happen on Discord. And you know, who knows? Maybe they're just. I can't imagine they could make such an unequivocal, you know, statement without having any. Any sort of consequential nature attached to. To it if they were proven to be lying. But, but still. So allegedly this is the case. And again, I think it is important that Discord obviously came out and. And rejected this happened. But. But still the authorities alleged that. And this is all third party information from a roommate, which I think is interesting. And it always. It's. It seems like a lot of that is happening where you're getting like anonymous authorities, right? Or just some, some authority tied to the investigation, but they won't actually disclose who it was. And then you'll have another federal ATF agent that doesn't go on the record with his name either, and he'll counter that claim and say that, no, that technically wasn't the case. As far as the LGBTQ connection to the phrasings on the casings, they tried to reject that as well, which I found interesting. As far as one of. There was an ATF official who told. I believe it was the name the New York Post who essentially said, no, that. That isn't. That has not been confirmed yet. As far as the trans language being written on the. The cash or on the, the casings. But then obviously it. It proceeds to come out that technically it is true as far as the. The FBI is concerned.
David Lee Corbo
So the FBI has confirmed that the.
Top Lobster
Trans language also Multiple. Multiple casings. Because I, I only heard one shot.
David Lee Corbo
That's true. Yeah. So multiple cases.
Austin Picard
Now, so inscriptions on a fired casing. That was the one that read notices bulges. Owo, what's this? And then there was inscriptions on three unfired casings that read, hey, fascist, catch. And then it, it also was the Chow Bella, you know, or Bella Chow or whatever it was. That. That was an. Apparently that specifically was supposed to be. Be kind of like evoking this anti fascist sentiment of like the individuals in. In Italy fighting back against the Nazis. Right. That's allegedly supposed to be why or the motive for. For utilizing that phrase.
David Lee Corbo
So I found that meaning that's a callback because that was a song that used to be. Okay, that makes sense the context of the song now because it's like a dude saying goodbye to his, you know, because he's gonna go fight the Nazis maybe. I trust the, the audience. And they're saying that this has a lot to do with furries, which is why it's very hard to understand because now the furries are integrated with the trans. And the anti fascist trans furries are standing up against Charlie Kirk.
Top Lobster
It's a layer man convolution.
David Lee Corbo
Oh my God.
Austin Picard
Because there's an individual who's alleged to have been in, I believe one, the roommate, at least Lance Twigs, 22 years old, resided at the same address of where Tyler Robinson lived. He's an alleged relative of. Of at least an alleged relative of Twigs. Of lance twigs. This 22 year old confirmed to the New York Post that yes, they were roommates allegedly. And so, uh, basically the claim is that Twigs was a black sheep of the family. But in reality you go through this and it looks as if there's this interesting connection that caught my eye more than anything. So the family member said that she knew Twigs was, was brought in for questioning by police and that essentially Twigs was transitioning to become a woman. Right. And, and was. But they declined to speculate on the romantic relationship between the two Tyler and, and this Lance Twist. Pigs. And so. And the picture of this individual is interesting as well. Definitely. You could see, I guess it's a little bit of like the. What's it called when you're, you're, you're almost an in between gender. Right, What I forget. Yeah, yeah. Thank you.
David Lee Corbo
Well, they, so they have this picture of this guy, you know, the alleged shooter, but then they have the, the picture of the guy who's like got the hat and the glasses that they catch, you know, on. And it doesn't look like the same guy. The, the faces. This looks like this. Lance Twigs has been identified as a roommate of Tyler Robinson.
Top Lobster
There's some other things going on here as well. I heard you hear conflicting reports where. All right, the parents.
David Lee Corbo
Oh, by the way, he's wearing like furry stuff. I guess the furry thing is, is part of it.
Austin Picard
It's like that Tyler had a furry fetish. But then it was. This is interesting because you have witnesses and individuals who, who were allegedly questioned and, and so, so no one was apparently frequenting this 1800 per month townhouse that they were believed to have been living in leading up to the event. Although there was an interesting claim by. I believe it was a neighbor who said that essentially there were all of these. Yeah, neighbor claimed that several people and this is two weeks ago prior to the event, were driving cars without a single state plates were seen going in and out and quote, they did not give off a good vibe. The neighbor said. And so in my mind I'm considering the idea of like I go back to the Manchurian. What did you have to do? They had to actually after sending Raymond back to the States to. To become the useful, violent, murderous tool that they would hope to greenlight in the targeted assassination at attempt. Well, they needed to make sure his programming was fresh. Now that's interesting to me because there seems to be a shelf life with mind control behavioral modification programming. And to where I had even read that certain Green Berets who had gone through certain behavioral modification experiments as a part of their Special Forces training were Were also intended to become useful assets domestically once they allegedly were either sheep dipped out of the service or were were technically already had served their their term in the service and had now of course retired to civilian life. Well, they could still green light go these operations utilizing various, you know, assets that had gone through this experimentation programming. But the interesting aspect of it was that they would have to have some avenue to re. Engage with this asset throughout the course of this. This time that you would hope to still leverage the programming to your benefit. And so it was interesting because it seemed as if Randy Weaver was implicated as to. As being one of the Green Berets who was waking up to his prior programming. And that essentially the reason that they prioritized Vicki Weaver was because she was the individual response responsible for him coming out of his hypno program trance and his. His a set of at least the set of instructions that had been essentially provided to him while. Sorry while he was. While he was uh, being experimented upon. And so that was why they. They uh, allegedly prioritized Vicki as the target. Not only because she was the head of the family and she had more influence than. Than Randy in the home home, but because. And she was kind of like the spiritual leader of the family as well obviously. But they claimed that she was waking him up to. To his MK Ultra programming. I felt. I thought that was interesting. And it fits perfectly with what they did with Raymond when they had him act as if they. They made the false narrative around him that he got struck while he was jogging. By a vehicle. And so he was forced into this sort of crisis, A. A situation where he had to go through surgery. Right? But in reality, it was just a false narrative in order to, you know, provide a cover story for them, re engaging his programming to see exactly where he's at and reinforcing it as well. And the same reason as, like, why Sir Han was writing in the journal, right? RFK must die. RFK must be killed. Rfk, right, Must be assassinated. And you're like, no, he's reinforcing his programming while he's in a hypnotic trance. Like, that's what he's doing. The same thing that happened when he sees targets in front of his eyes in the pantry in the Ambassador Hotel and he thinks he's at the shooting range. It's the same situation, and he's pulling an imaginary trigger as they tackle him to the ground. He can't stop, right? It's uncontrollable. Same thing when they put him in the hypnotic trance in tr. Under or in the trial. The same exact thing. RFK is in the pantry now, sir. How. On. And he just goes. And he's like, pulling this trigger and having, like, convulsions, man. And. And it's very strange, but again, it's. What did they do with Raymond? They said, okay, we're gonna have him. He's gonna have to kill someone. So we know that he's still active as far as his programming, still reliable enough. And so we're gonna have to actually have him activate in. In green light, go. We'll have him just kind of sacrifice someone as a test. And so what does he do? He goes out and he kills his. He strategically kills his boss, right, where they take out this prominent media news publication, right, where he's simultaneously eliminating a dissenting voice, right, For. For the side that the cabal that he. That technically this media mogul is certainly a thorn in the side of. Of the power cabal that he's. He's working on behalf of, obviously. And so I just found it very interesting that it served mutual purpose, you know, as far as, like a dual purpose in a way. And it. It. Again, It. To me, it always goes back to they. They need to reinforce the level of programming. So therefore you. You would need to have another avenue to. Of sort of. Sort of access the assets. And this is. This would be the reason why you have these unmarked cars with the strange out of plate or out of state license plates showing up to the residents leading up to the event. And then also, if you look at the fact I saw William Post about Tyler Robinson was captured on surveillance footage appearing to make a phone call just moments before climbing onto the roof, suggesting he may have been in contact with someone as the events unfolded. And so in my mind, tone through.
David Lee Corbo
The phone type of deal.
Austin Picard
It'S literally the call into Raymond in the Manchurian Candidate. When they say, is this Raymond Shaw? He says, yes, this is Raymond. You should pass the time by playing a little solitaire. Boom. He's in the first layer of suggest suggestibility of programming, right? And then all he does, as soon as he sees the queen of diamonds, the second layer is triggered and his, his true suggestibility can be sort of leveraged. And I think that's fascinating to understand as far as. Right. The, the way I think as I mentioned before, we don't have as firm a grip on free will as we might, might think we do. You know, and imagine being programmed subliminal. Subliminally, Abby. Or I mean, I'm sorry, talking too fast, dude. But imagine when you're. You're sort of sleeping, sleeping, you're being subliminally programmed or programmed with subliminals, right. And essentially kept in a dissociative state during your sleep. That's what they claim. It can effectively happen by just individual operators pulling up outside of your house and clicking an electromagnetic, you know, frequency to, to effectively, you know, infiltrate your residence and, and your psychological state of mind as well. And, and I think that any and all of us could be prioritized and deliberately targeted. And anyway, beyond that, man, there's just so many additional layers to this. Like it looks like this kid was potentially hanging around Junior rotc, which is very strange. So again, you have a junior Reserve Officer Training Corps where he's hanging around with these students that were involved with this military program. But there's no, no clear connection as to. There's no evidence proving that he himself was a member. But again, it's like this is the modern strategy of tension. This is Operation Gladio all day long utilizing very strategic tactics of destabilization. And I think that you see it even in Canada because I saw a report coming out that some, some school teacher had had forcefully shown the footage of Charlie Kirk being assassinated to her children, to the students that were like under 10 years old. Dude, some of them are 5 and 6.
Top Lobster
Telling them that he deserved it. Yeah, it's crazy.
Austin Picard
And you see all the examples like that sort of anti ice protester in LA, right? Who's got, he's like a fresh 18 year old or something. I don't know how old he is, but he's. He's a. And he's just a useful reteller. And he's out there with a bullhorn screaming, you know, we got Charlie in the neck, right? And it's just like this is, you know, legitimately. I don't know how much of it is. Is sort of astroturfed, you know, where. It's. Where it's. Yeah, it's. It's being.
David Lee Corbo
I mean, I could tell you just by looking at, like, Facebook and. And seeing people that I used to know who are all out loud celebrating his death. I don't even know if you have to astroturf this one, but I'm sure they don't miss an opportunity to a.
Top Lobster
Story that I've told on the show a bunch of times, actually. You should ask Jose about it. That girl, Eliza Blue, was in the middle of this gang stalking kind of affair regarding what she had said about child trafficking or. No, no, what she had said about her being raped. And it turned out. It turns out that she either lied or wasn't telling the complete truth. But this started. This started like a complete shitstorm on the Internet. And it turned into a campaign against her where she was targeted by a lot of people for lying. But then eventually it snowballs into who knows what. It is just insanity. And I'm watching it from the side because I know her, and I think she's lying, but I also think she's not a bad person. So I'm like, I'm gonna keep my opinion to myself. And I'm watching people attack her viciously. And then one day, it just, like, turns off just like that. But there's about 20% of the people that were piling onto her that are real, in my opinion. And they're still going, but then they'll. They'll be like. They, like, look left and right, they go, hey, where's my engagement? Where is my. Like, I was getting thousands of likes on this, and, like, now it's gone. It's like we just watched an op, and the only person that called it out was, like, Shane Cash, watchman. He wrote a piece about it. When they wanted him to tear her apart, he was like, no, no, we're looking at something different here. It was a. A strange operation. I don't know what to make of.
David Lee Corbo
It, but it's like a test run.
Top Lobster
It was a test run of, like, can we create an inorganic movement against some online figure for a random reason? Can I Galvanize a certain percentage of people to follow me in lockstep if I use their dopamine receptors. And this is not even at the time when X was paying out. This is just. Just pure likes and shares. That's all that it was. And it's like, yeah, you can. You can do that. And these people will go with you and they'll be indifferent. Like, you will not be able to differentiate between them and bots. And they did that effectively. They turned it off and then it was just gone. And everyone's left wondering what happened. People are still mad at her for whatever. But if you're, if you're paying attention, the question that you should be asking yourself is, what was that? Why did that happen and why did it stop like that? And there's no adequate answers.
David Lee Corbo
It stopped because they got enough data and they said, okay, this is gonna work.
Top Lobster
Okay, we can do that.
David Lee Corbo
And so they probably spent a while fleshing out bot accounts then, you know what I mean?
Top Lobster
Do it on a larger level, let's say, with an assassination of a prominent conservative character. And then you look at Facebook. All it takes is like, I mean, the minimal amount of bots that you would need to really push this movement to get these people. People moving. Not much.
David Lee Corbo
I don't even know if you needed to, because these people are doing it to the tune of six likes.
Top Lobster
That's what I'm. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah. They've like mastered it so much so where they can scale back the bot activity, because there certainly probably is activity bots on the left and the right that are pushing a narrative, but it's. I'm so minimal because the reaction to this is so visceral.
Austin Picard
Where they.
Top Lobster
They've gotten them. It seems like they've gotten the information of how to do this. And now, now free range MK Ultra chickens. And they just say, go ahead. Like they already know what's going on.
David Lee Corbo
And Emma M. Lauren, she said before in the chat, it was a while ago, but she said, does anybody else feel like we're never gonna know the truth on this one? And this feels like a JFK level operation, not in the sense that Charlie Kirk was at all jfk, but in the sense that they have so many things in place that all went off simultaneously that people, people can and will spend the next, you know, five decades unpacking it and debating who was the actual shooter. And I think that's why we didn't.
Top Lobster
Even talk about the hand signals.
David Lee Corbo
So many. There's because there's, I mean, dude, we're only five days off now and we've got this much. You know how much we're gonna have by the end of a 30 day period. And it's like kind of the reason that I, I haven't been engaging with it is because I can't zero in on which aspect to engage in.
Top Lobster
Yeah. All I'm saying online, all I'm saying personally is the people who say that it's not Israel, like, hey, buckle up, baby. Because we don't. We have no clue who. You're very comfortable saying. You're comfortable saying you know who it is because the guy who told you Epstein didn't do it pointed us and it's like, okay, if that's what you want to do. But I'm like, no, we're keeping our options open, open. And we'd probably never know.
David Lee Corbo
No, but I don't think the point is to know. I think they've done a thing. It's pretty masterful. The thing that we should be focusing on is how are we going to navigate the fallout. And I, I don't want, you know, I, like I said, don't want to be alarmist, but I think that Sam Hyde clip was correct. Not just in the aspect of getting guns, but it's like you should maybe take it a little bit more seriously, especially depending on where you live. I know we have listeners of the show that are in like these city areas and everything. Everything. And it's like maybe just think a little bit. I'm not asking you to definitely don't mobilize, don't go out and do anything. But it's like, think a little bit. What if some popped off? Where, where would you go? What would you do? Do you have things to, to be ready with? Because it just feels like it's pretty obvious at this point they would nut over a full scale race war, civil war thing. These high population centers that are having these protests, they would love to infiltrate them, turn them violent. Agent provocateur. They'd love to have, you know, sort of a Black Lives Matter situation on the other side.
Top Lobster
This is what it feels. I'm gonna let Austin because I know he's got something to say. But I've got two kids and what they do to me, it's a lot of fun. One will make a mess, and then I'll go and pick that up. And while I'm picking it up, the other one will make a mess.
Austin Picard
Mess.
David Lee Corbo
These two are Hegelian dialecticing.
Top Lobster
You I'm still not done cleaning up that mess and I'm already looking at this one that I've got to clean up now. And as I go to move towards the other one, the initial one that made a mess has made another mess. So now that I feel like that's what we're in. But like in like this political socio economic climate where it's just like one thing at a time and I think Sam is like, people will look at him and say, oh, you're missing the bigger picture. Sure. But this is important because that's being put right in front of you. This is a big mess that they've spilled on you. So he's kind of like, all right, like deal with this. Yeah, really quickly. Or just deal with this as good as possible because what do you do? They've just spilled like five, five glasses and they're like, okay, that's it, dude. Now what I need, like post.
David Lee Corbo
And the post was like, I, I forgot how the post went, but it was kind of saying like, oh, I said when, when it's. When it's hard to speak the truth. Speak it. When it's hard to show restraint, restrain yourself. Then I did this other thing, but I ended it by saying, when they say they found the enemy, look inward because a lot of this is about to be like identifying the obvious enemies across all fronts. And then the next logical step is like, and Autobots roll out. You know what I mean? And it's like, like maybe look at yourself. And when I say inward, I don't mean just like in the Christian way of deal with the sin that's in your own heart. I mean inward at yourself and your family unit and those type of things. Don't go out and fight a war that they've been laying out for you to go and fight. Figure out how to navigate your own personal life and your own loved ones and your own immediate family and how to get them through this, this big ass mess that's coming. Because everything is, is. It's like, look left, look right, look forward, step back, go. And they're just puppeteering you everywhere. Everywhere Z Man says is, is Raven referencing the Owen Benjamin inner Jew. It's a great way of looking at it. It's like instead of mobilizing against the Jews, which I think is also an ultimate kind of goal, you know, Brian of Demon Erasers are talking about the rabbinic Jews who have a prophecy that, you know, the goyim are going to rise up against the, the Jews and all these different things. And if you look at the Bible, but it's like before you go out and persecute the Jews for the things that they've done, you know, kill the Jew in your own heart. I think they, that's a great, it's a, it's a great analogy by, by your room. Clean your room. Clean the Jews out of your room.
Austin Picard
Well, I just think it's hilarious that it, this, the narrative that has formed it again, it checks every box, right? So it's either the Nick Fuentes Griper Griper crowd or it's the Israel obviously is responsible or it's the transgun violence movement is, is entirely responsible. And it's. But at every level, I think we're not prioritizing what, what this root cause is. You know, and I think that's, that's why I'm always kind of frustrated. You know, I feel like I'm on the outside looking in at a certain level, but I'm blessed at that same for, for the exact same reason. You know, I feel so grateful for that. And I, I think that, you know, I inherently bucked the, the public school system. You know, just the, the, the trends never affected me at that level. Although I will say I fell into the trap of, of worshiping at the feet of celebrities in, in the celebrity class for a short time and trying to recreate my own identity in, in the mirror image of people who I, I, I kind of worshiped in a way. Right. And held on these, on these strange. Yeah. Pedestals that, that are always undeserving. You know. And I think that once you, you, you find a way, as you said, to look, look within and reflect. Right. As, as far as the internal. Because I think the internal process is what matters most. It's, that's the reason why I actually appreciate the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad Gita, is because I actually appreciated it for the reason that it's a war being waged from within. And the sort of Damocles that hangs over is essentially, you know, you have to face yourself before you can face the outside world. And I think that's so strong. That's just a strong message that you could, you could attempt to at least apply in your own life. And I'm not saying it's the only route to understanding and appreciating that concept is, is through that theological text. But I do think it's interesting as hell and I appreciate the sort of strange window and perspective it gives lives. And, and another reason why I just think, you know, we Have. Yeah. We have dragons to slay within the concept of our own minds and hearts. And I think until we slay those dragons, be very careful with giving other people any sort of advice. You know, I'll give you that much. Right. And, and, and I never try and say that I have the answers because I'm just trying to you know, make sense of this for my own well being and try. Try to have some sort of way to. To com. At least to, to one compartmentalize things in my own mind. But two to also kind of like find. Find a sort of just psychological coherent comprehensive structure of what I think is happening. And it's always evolving obviously. But, but I mean when, when you see these. The reason why I think pattern. Pattern recognition is a superpower power is because we. We just see these ridiculous resurfacing tactics that in my mind provide smoking guns many times. Right as far as. At the very least it should raise red flags. And, and even as far as like just I, I think it's strange the way the father apprehended his own son. You know, he, he legitimately can claims that, that his son confessed to him right as and said that he was the shooter. Which is the first report we got that he allegedly confessed but he's yet to conf. But his father claimed that he confessed and then his father even tells the authorities that he. He has him secured and his. His son will remain secured until they could arrive to pick him up. Now that's very interesting and, and the amount of examples I've witnessed as far as individual parents willing to sacrifice their own children. Yeah, it's something that most people wouldn't want to conceptualize or even potentially imagine being the case. But it definitely happens. And, and I think that this is something you can't rule out as a. As a legitimate possibility as far as this. A 27 year veteran of the police force. The father was the, the mother is a very much. You know, she has a strange sort of career path as well. And I think that when you look at his uncle apparently who, who according to the mother's Facebook page, uh, he was involved. His name was Michael Robinson and he's involved in as an info information system security manager with the Air Force who was stationed at Hill Base right in. In the the area from 2015 to 2021. And then he. He allegedly was shipped off to Japan. But he, he has a strange background with assist being a system administrator with the Air Force and, and has some strange recruitment events that he was a part of on behalf of. Of recruiting children into this sort of military program. So again, again, you can combine that with the ROTC connection of like, Tyler Robinson hanging around with these students who are going to this military training program. I'm just saying, like, we should. We should be very careful. And it always screams again, he's. He's got like a 30, 34 on his act or something, I think. And. And so it took a while as well for that trans. Narrative to form, which in my mind means it could very well have even been a manufactured false narrative narrative to fit a purpose, you know, because now I'm not saying it's impossible. And clearly it could very well have taken place and. And been the sort of, you know, just. It. Just. For me, I feel like you should always remain skeptical and question every aspect of the details here, because in my mind, I just see. I see the path of the patsy, you know, I see every single aspect of this guy's existence sort of. You know, it seems as if he. And again, if you look at the George Zen dude as well, which is hilarious because he's obviously providing a misdirection, but he has a strange historical background as well. Right. He had called in a bomb threat to. To some sort of Marathon City Marathon in Utah just after the Boston Marathon bombing took place. This guy was calling it a bomb threat. And then also he. He says some strange things about. About how he knew Al Qaeda was responsible for 9, 11 on the day of. Of the Twin Tower attacks. Right. Which I think is just again, like, this guy is clearly some sort of useful asset in terms of running operations. Yeah, it. It has to be that.
David Lee Corbo
But I love it too, because it's like he's, you know, that means everything about it, like his pants being down and everything about it was. Was like. Because that guy, I would agree with that. Austin is 100. Yeah. He's. He's calling it a box bombs threat right after the Boston Marathon bombing. What's really weird too, is like, the pictures of him from back then. He looks like the same. I'm like, this guy's been old forever. Like, he's been very old for.
Top Lobster
It's very.
David Lee Corbo
It's really weird. I'm like, he's got the same, you know, pattern of baldness and everything, but. Yeah, very, very obvious. But like I said, man, I just don't know if I think this is one of these things that's designed to be a conspiracy theorist wet dream. It is the gift that will continue to get give endlessly.
Austin Picard
And.
David Lee Corbo
And I think the Real thing. And. And going back to when you were talking about that, like that refining process of looking inward, wherever we're going, God forbid we actually are going someplace where we're gonna need leaders. You know, we just did this episode where we talked about this absence of strong male figures and all of this. It's like you had better begin that burning process, that burning off of the dead that's inside you that is. Is to your detriment and the detriment of everybody around you. Shout out to Jordan Peterson, the late, great Jordan Peterson, when he talks about behaving in a way that is not only beneficial to you, but it's beneficial to your family and your community, and it's beneficial now and five years from now and ten years from now. The only way you get to be a person like that, and it looks like we're going to need people like that is to start looking inward. We make fun of. I'll just go out and say it. The black community for the.
Austin Picard
The.
David Lee Corbo
The white man is the cause of all of my problems. And that victimhood mindset. Just be careful that you don't fall into the same mindset. If you're listening to this and you recognize that the Jews this or the. Or the. Whatever's the. It doesn't matter, dude. It's all the same thing. And it's to take away your power and put it in the hands of somebody else. Some nefarious. And let's say, you know, yeah, it's very real. They own these industries and everything. But if you stand any chance at being anybody that is worth their salt, what you need to do is look inward and burn off that weakness. So every time they tell you they got a new enemy, every time they tell you it's a trans community or it's the black community or it's this community or it's that look inside, burn some other piece of weakness off. Because even if it is all these people, that means where we're going is super dangerous, and we're going to need people that don't suck. So get to burning off that weakness.
Top Lobster
Speaking of needing people that don't suck, man, we got. I got to bring it in for a landing. But Austin, tell people where they could find people that don't suck.
Austin Picard
Yeah, all right. I agree wholeheartedly. I will say, as far as I think the collectivist trap is. Is that exactly what it is? Right? It's a trap. Preordained outcome. And this is the only way forward is to pursue to individual sovereignty and. And through doing that and, and through pursuing that individuality, which I think you should always attempt to kind of. Again, it's, in my mind it's really the only way that you can really become a net positive or a net benefit to the society at large is to essentially kind of focus on what you can continue control. Right. And I think that is effectively the environment you surround yourself with, you know, and, and I think the, the relationships you choose to prioritize as, as, as being obviously the most fulfilling and worthwhile and, and, and then also cutting off the cancers, as you mentioned. Right. I think it's very, very important for everyone to, to attempt to at the very least improve in that way. And only then can you, you kind of find yourself in a position where you end up, up, end up inevitably becoming a net positive benefit in that sort of way. But again, it's not through pursuing the collectivist agenda in no way. It's, it's only through the pursuit of individual sovereignty. And, and, and so I, I, I try and flush the poison pill of collectivism every chance I get. You know what I mean? And that's my priority. And, and you see the strange, you know, connections to Charlie's security detail and things, and I, I won't keep going, but I swear it's, it's, it's interesting because they have connections to the FBI, you know, Israel, you have one of the security. Yeah, it's very strange. The Echelon Front is allegedly what it's called, and they're wiping all their records. Allegedly. Kind of like seems as if they're covering their tracks. Um, it, and so I'm not at all shocked as far as that.
Top Lobster
Some of these guys work for Jocko Willink.
Austin Picard
Yeah, yeah, man. It's very strange. Schaefer Security Group is, is one of the, I think key kind of. Elijah. No, but, but again, it's just like at every level, I'm wondering at this point, you know, how much of it. And I mentioned the, the Kabbalistic theme that's heavily involved in so much of this. And I, I remember it was Bill Cooper I had mentioned earlier, who was reacting to that of Columbine, right. And he, he, he explains that he believed and he's, he, he, it drove him to tears. It was really emotional watching it, honestly. And it was just a fresh reaction just after the report came down of what, what occurred at Columbine. And, and I, I truly believe he had good faith intentions. As far as Bill Cooper is concerned, many people think he's compromised. I, I don't I think he was more utilized and exploited at times, unfortunately. But at the same time I still think he was a net benefit. But what. What was strange is that he. He evoked the rights of Ishtar with indirect parallel to that of. Of what's happening with the school shootings. This is very interesting. And the first thought I had when the Minneapolis school shooting happened right in Minnesota because it was the exact same timing all the kids going back to school. All right. And it's sort of the human sacrifice in the springtime. The rights of Ishtar and Moloch is what Bill Cooper was claiming was potentially a part of the ritual blood sacrifice that happens in these certain seasons. And the reason why it's more effective in the springtime to see sacrifice children in this sort of blood ritual fashion. And I found it very interesting especially understanding I mentioned Project Monarch a bunch of times and this is my last thing that I wanted to mention to you guys. And. And I'll plug. And that. That is just that basically you have this interview with Paul Manassi, the Franklin victim. And. And he. He talks about how he stationed with Harris Livic, a colonel who's. Who's stationed at Fort Defiance in Virginia. And they said he's running a military school and he housed the Monarch boys there. And this is where Banasi claims he. He received some of his training. Right. And. And so it's interesting as well because this. This always fits right where they have these domestic black sites where they. They run these training sites. Right. Where even Claudia Mullen claimed this. She. She said in 19. In the early 1950s, she said that she was brought to a training camp camp domestically in Deer Creek woods in a remote. Remote Deer Creek wood cabins or some something to that effect. Deer Creek woods was the name of it. In this remote location on domestic black site. And essentially what she claimed is she was brought there with 75 other children multiple times. And they would train her in. In the other children and how to sexually pleasure a priority target.
Top Lobster
It's just a chat.
David Lee Corbo
This no.
Top Lobster
Watching David.
Austin Picard
Oh, I'm so sorry bro. I'm so sorry.
Top Lobster
No, no, I'm so interested.
Austin Picard
I'm sorry bro.
Top Lobster
No, please keep going.
Austin Picard
Okay. All right.
David Lee Corbo
So honestly.
Austin Picard
It. Dude, I'm sorry.
Top Lobster
I love that. I love you so much, Austin.
Austin Picard
I love you guys.
Top Lobster
Dude, I feel nice.
David Lee Corbo
I. It was the chat. They're just kill. I can't even look at what every time I look over they're just killing me. I'm trying to just be a normal person and they're ruining my life. Okay, so. No, but you're talking about 75 children that went missing and I'm thinking about you. Please, no, don't, don't. Stop the plugs. Tell me about that.
Top Lobster
Also, we didn't even listen. He said that. He keeps saying the kabbalistic nature of the Charlie Cook assassination and we didn't even say that the menorah.
David Lee Corbo
Oh my God. He was murdered.
Top Lobster
Okay, finish, finish. I'm sorry. David, please.
David Lee Corbo
No, it's them.
Austin Picard
Okay, I just think that, that once you, once you begin to understand, right, as far as these, this moment in time where they're grappling with, using human honey pots and, and specifically child process prostitutes in this, in this case in the early 50s where you had Gottlieb and, and Captain George White and all these strange. Dr. James Hamilton, all these individuals who were helping facilitate the MK ULTRA program on behalf of Sidney Gottlieb, the dark sorcerer of MK Ultra himself. Right? And essentially the claim is that, that she was basically recruited. Now it makes a lot of sense because honestly they were grappling with this ability to one. This, this to me perfectly ties in the reason why Richard Helms destroyed, specifically destroyed thousands of files that, that were clandestine files that, that had to do with, with MK Ultra specifically. But I think that much of what they would have prioritized as far as the destruction of the files would have been clearly the human honey trap child prostitution experimentation files. You would want to prioritize those as far as not ever letting them become fully disclosed to the public or, or any sort of transparency taking place. So I think that's when you, you.
David Lee Corbo
Mentioned before, for like a brief moment, this idea of 75 children going missing. Is that what you said?
Austin Picard
So this is a part of a sinister sub project that was, was built into one of the MK Ultra sub projects. And it was specifically on how they would. Could utilize children in this sort of fashion. And so Claudia Mullen herself, she. She happens to testify that in. This is in 57 that to the year of 1957 through 1958, she claims this is the period that she experienced the, the sexual abuse and she was brought into Sydney Gottlieb's inner circle by this leadership at Tulane University. And, and again this is where they're, they're planting electrodes deep inside your brain and just like put, you know, while you're, you're undergoing a. You know, you're on the chemical compound mescaline. You're on a heaven and hell journey right on the compound. And they're just like deeply implanting electrodes in the subject's brain and like pulling strings and asking you how it's affecting you. It's insane what they were doing. But, but again, Mullen herself, it's very interesting what she testified to have experienced because she, she says that basically when she's brought into Gottlieb's inner circle circle, and, and a number of doctors were testing her intelligence, the way she responded sexually, how obedient she was, how much pain she could endure, and a number of other things. Then in 1959, this group brought her to the rather remote Deep Creek Cabins in Maryland. Okay. Where her training as a child prostitute began. Each time she went, she was with a group of 75 other kids. During the 1960s and 70s, she was regularly used to entrap important officials. Two of them, she mentioned, Senator Frank Church of the Church Committee hearings that was leading the transparency for public disclosure on behalf of exposing the intelligence apparatus and what the CIA was running as far as domestic operations are concerned. He himself was alleged to have been sexually compromised by Claudia Mullen during this process, which I find fascinating. Right.
David Lee Corbo
Claudia Mullen is the one who's giving this testimony.
Austin Picard
Testimony, yeah, she testified in the. The seventies, right. To, to all of this. And, and, and claimed that not only Frank Church, but, but I believe there were Senator Russell B. Long of Louisiana. He was also one that she specifically was sent to essentially compromise. Right. And, uh, he was, he was later on, uh, he was involved in the investigation of, uh, JFK assassination alongside Jim Garrison. So he was potentially a controlled infiltrator who was attempting to, at least I would say, maybe expose to the Cabal what was being, you know, investigated by Garrison himself, which is very interesting to me. And, and, and then the final point, I swear. And then I'll stop. And that is just because I, I had mentioned the kabbalistic nature of things. And I swear, I'm sorry, dude, but, but, but I think it's important because the Project Monarch, I swear, man, like, I, I've been really drawn to. It's appealing to me as obviously being one of my next solo projects. I can't, I can't, you know, I can't help myself. Like, I, I just want to have.
David Lee Corbo
You on then to do, after you. You do it to do a Project Monarch breakdown. Because I think that's probably the, the project that's directly the most important, just given what's been going on lately, but go on.
Austin Picard
Exactly, exactly. And so essentially the claim here is, is that that basically you Have. Right. Who? He's, he's claiming that most of this mind control program was under the name Monarch and was headquartered at, strategically at the Air Command at Offwood Air Force Base. Right. And that you had Michael Aquino directly implicated in this. Noreen Gosh, the mother of Johnny Gosh, also implicated him in the trial. Right. For, for her missing and kidnapped son. And so Senator John Decay Camp, he, he ultimately becomes the person who brings the, the victim witnesses accounts to the forefront. Right. Alicia Owen, Paul Benassi, Loretta Smith, Troy Boner, all these individuals who were implicated as being victims in, in the Franklin scandal. And so Banasi and these other child victims were giving these sort of credible, very credible testimonies and, and evidence as well as to the very deep detail involved in the, in the role of Michael Aquino and, and his sort of depraved nature involved in this psychological warfare section which was drawing upon his expertise allegedly for his personal practices and brainwashing, Satanism, Nazism, homosexual pedophilia and murder. Obviously a lot of redundancies there.
Top Lobster
Sounds like a Laney edit.
David Lee Corbo
Sounds like a lady at it.
Austin Picard
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's crazy though, because essentially the, what he explains, right, is that an account of the origin of the Monarch Project has been basically compiled by those who have been debriefing did NPD Multiple Personality Disorder child victims. So he claims that Nazi experimentation In World War II concentration camps were said to have gone beyond simply insane physical tortures. They brainwashed individuals for military and strategic purposes. Alan Dulles, post war war and other Western intelligence agents through obviously Operation Paperclip. This is why the timing aligns up. You know, lines up so, so perfectly that essentially they, they come back to the US and among them was an individual that was a teenage concentration camp inmate named Dr. Greenbaum. All right? And this guy is later referred to as Dr. Green. And he allegedly participated to save himself like many of the stories, uh, claimed. Right. And. But in reality he becomes this high level mind control manipulator and he's, he's widely represented in these MK Ultra programs. And, and John de Camp himself describes a distinctive kabbalistic magic theme involved and that the killers in, in these that were brought over from the concentration camps themselves were trained and organized by psychiatrists apparently and eugenicists operating from the T4 Bureau specifically. Is this is what John de Camp says? These psychiatrists had long been the pets of white supremacist British and American financier networks. Sounds like the Pilgrim Society and the Anglo American Establishment or the Cincinnati, the Society of The Cincinnati, it sounds like specifically those. Those organizations of powerful influence and at least some of these doctors were. Were of course brought under the supervision of the bank of England governor and Tavasock Institute director John R. Reese on behalf of the British government and the U.S. government. And so Norman personally was a theosophist who had been chief of the pre war pro Nazi faction within England. And Reese organized post war propaganda and continuing psychological warfare activities, creating Orwellian groupings within U.S. psychiatry and mental health field fields. So that seems like the origin of. Of Monarch itself. Just briefly. Which brings in utilizing domestic training camps for child prostitutes, human honeypot operations, as well as obviously this diabolical role involving mental health and. And psychiatry, which I think you can, you can sort of. I believe you can tie. Tie firmly around the neck of this sort of trans movement. Right. You can tie the trans movement around the mental health movement. And I think that that all was strategically by design to. To fulfill this sort of. In my mind, it's a manufactured prophecy in a sort of way and it will ultimately lead us into this totalitarian technocratic state. And I hope to get.
David Lee Corbo
Also leads into. To that free range aspect that we get just.
Top Lobster
Just to talk. Yeah, the free range stuff. But to tie a bow on that, we have. Well, my wife has a family friend who.
David Lee Corbo
My wife.
Top Lobster
My wife has a family friend who is in the psychiatric business. They are a psychiatrist himself or psychologist, whichever one.
David Lee Corbo
Oh, is that the one with the.
Top Lobster
Yeah, her client base and her husband is in the same field. Her client basically face is specifically an LGBTQ crowd.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah, they're just cutting straight to the chain.
Top Lobster
They are actively transitioning their son. Not physically transitioning, but the kids in kindergarten talking about, you know, dressing like a girl and they put them.
Austin Picard
Yeah.
Top Lobster
So it's like now I think the question is like, I think we're correct on the free range where.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
Top Lobster
I don't know if someone has actually like has actively reached out to her and been like, do this, do this, do this, do this. Or if the programming is such that.
David Lee Corbo
You just wind them up and let them go.
Top Lobster
Yeah, that. Yeah, there's like, we're like hands off at this point and it's going to do what it's going to do. It just needs a little bit of.
David Lee Corbo
That's what I think.
Top Lobster
Back and forth. Balance.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah. They put bumpers on. So with that it keeps going straight. But yeah, that's.
Austin Picard
That's why the, the mother of, of Charlie Kirk as well. I didn't realize Kimberly Kirk, she's. She so she was a traitor. Right on in. In the same stock market, the, the Chicago Exchange. But then she. This is before she becomes a mental health counselor. So I just thought it was hilarious because you have that. And then the father's connection. And I'll plug. Is Robert Kirk. He, he allegedly, he's, he's an architect who, who owned and operated a design firm focused on residential housing and reportedly worked on Trump Tower in New York City. City. Now, here's one more strange connection. He was politically active behind the scenes and was a major donor to Mitt Romney's 2012 presidential election campaign.
Top Lobster
There's a Mormon connection, huh?
Austin Picard
Yeah, Mormon connection, son. Which is another reason why it's like Process Church becomes the best friends animal welfare society or whatever. And their hub headquarters is located in Utah. Provo, Utah is named in the Paul Wilcher Report as being one of the locations where they're, they're implementing this sort of mind control MK Ultra experimentation. Just like Waco, they claimed was post war a geographical area that they were utilizing for that purpose as well. And some of the institutions there were reinforcing all of it. And so it just goes to show, there are strategic geographical hubs domestically all through the US where they're facilitating these covert, clandestine operational methods on a daily basis.
David Lee Corbo
And it's going down in Utah. Utah is a strange place.
Top Lobster
Arizona as well, where Charlie Kruegers. All right, listen, I gotta get out of here. Austin.
Austin Picard
Okay? I love you, brother. I can't, I can't thank you enough. You guys already know, man, I admire you guys and I, I, I honestly, I would love to come to Brogrove again too, because yes, 100, we're looking.
David Lee Corbo
At like February, March, and you're, you're more than invited. And then when, when he comes year, we have them in studio.
Top Lobster
Yes.
Austin Picard
Yeah, I love that, guys. So, yeah, everybody just go check out the Underclass podcast. If you have the financial means and anything I've ever done resonates with you, then, then please, by all means. It's, it's. I'm more than grateful and, and I can't thank each and every one of you enough for, for even showing up and listening to my content. So I have nothing but love and respect for you too. And every time we get the chance to have a conversation, I feel ultimately blessed and, and I, I again, man, this gives me hope and inspiration moving forward. So it's at all times feeling like I'm insulated from kind of the, the, even the emotional reaction from a lot of this because I feel like I'm, I have individuals like yourselves that I can rely on as, as keeping me somewhat, you know, as far as, like, grounded in the moment and, and having that sort of life preserver in terms of ideologically in place to where I don't have to feel like I'm so alone as much as I have in the past. So.
David Lee Corbo
I'll tell you what, though, Austin. Because of, because of people like you and people like Top, I have lulled myself into thinking that we were further along in our understanding of things than we really are.
Top Lobster
He's new here.
David Lee Corbo
I just, like. I stopped talking. I've been doing it for a while. I stopped talking to regular people, and I said, sure. Surely they've caught up. Austin, are you.
Austin Picard
I'm done.
David Lee Corbo
Are you having fun?
Austin Picard
No.
David Lee Corbo
Are you having fun?
Austin Picard
Oh, am I having fun, man? Honestly, I, I, I, I think I am. I'm trying to, to develop a, a better relationship with, with how I internalize things. Because William.
David Lee Corbo
William Ramsey is not having fun.
Top Lobster
Oh, he's not.
David Lee Corbo
He's not having fun. He was the only one that we asked who was like, fun.
Austin Picard
I love William, dude.
Top Lobster
What do you mean, like.
Austin Picard
All right.
David Lee Corbo
Did you not say anything? I just told you.
Austin Picard
Right, right. Dude, that is so funny. But, yeah, I, I have to. I get why he would feel that way, just as far as the global death cult is concerned. But, But I think we need to always remind ourselves what matters most, and that's relationships. Like, like this. And, and again, like I had mentioned before, I'm so grateful for the relationship with my wife. And, and again, it's like, just remind yourself how beautiful your life truly is, you know? Because, honestly, stop focusing on all the darkness. You need to prioritize focusing on the light, at least to pull yourself out of that sort of demoralization that I think is by design. So. I love you guys, for real, man, honestly. Thank you.
David Lee Corbo
Love you, brother. I'm glad you're still having fun. If you ever tell us no, we're gonna have an intervention.
Austin Picard
Yeah.
Top Lobster
All right, guys. Another great episode. We will catch you probably tomorrow.
David Lee Corbo
Tomorrow. I think tomorrow we're having aiming rat in subliminal messages.
Austin Picard
Doesn't matter.
Top Lobster
This stuff airs a lot.
David Lee Corbo
It doesn't matter anymore.
Top Lobster
By the time you hear it. Who knows? Maybe we've been raptured.
David Lee Corbo
The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.
Austin Picard
You can persuade that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see.
David Lee Corbo
Because they'll in the face.
Austin Picard
Of an explanation that portrays the bigger picture of what happens, and they have.
Host: Top Lobsta (Top Lobsta Productions)
Co-host: David Lee Corbo (Raven)
Guest: Austin Picard (The Underclass Podcast)
This episode dives into the theory and mechanics of "programming a patsy" within the context of mass shootings and political assassinations. Using high-profile recent events—specifically the assassination of Charlie Kirk—as well as historical examples, the hosts and guest examine the intersection of trauma-based mind control, conspiracy operations, culture war escalation, and mass psychological manipulation through the lens of projects like MKUltra, Monarch, and Operation Gladio. The conversation explores both the micro and macro scales: from individual mass shooters and their backgrounds, to collective programming and engineered polarization of society.
“Programming a Patsy” weaves together modern and historical examples of psychological operations, trauma-based mind control, and collective manipulation, challenging audiences to step outside the engineered dialectic—and focus on individual strengthening, family, and truth-seeking over collective programming and reactive violence.
Final Advice:
“When they say they found the enemy, look inward… Clean your room. Clean the Jews out of your room.” – Raven (paraphrasing Owen Benjamin & Peterson, [146:18])
For further resources: Check out Austin Picard's The Underclass Podcast, follow Top Lobsta Productions, and revisit William Ramsey Investigates for deeper dives into Manchurian Candidate operations.
End of episode.