Birthmarks & Past Lives w/ Seth Kicklighter

Summary

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Nephilim Death Squad: "Birthmarks & Past Lives" w/ Seth Kickliter

Podcast: Nephilim Death Squad (TopLobsta Productions)
Date: May 11, 2026
Hosts: David Lee Corbo ("The Raven," Top Lobsta), Co-host (unnamed/possibly Top Lobsta)
Guest: Seth Kickliter

Episode Overview

This episode features Seth Kickliter for the third part of an ongoing series debunking reincarnation, focusing on the intersection between birthmarks, memories of past lives, and spiritual deception. Through the lens of biblical worldview, the conversation traces alleged evidence for reincarnation and its alternatives, blends in humor, cultural critique, and Christian apologetics, and delivers a deep-dive into how disinformation and spiritual manipulation could underlie popular beliefs about past lives and soul journeys.

Seth, drawing from his book "Spirit Realm Shenanigans" and extensive research, proposes that most so-called reincarnation evidence—including the celebrated birthmark and past-life memory cases—can be better explained as products of demonic deception, memory implants, and coordinated disinformation via spiritual entities, rather than literal soul migration. The conversation also tackles adjacent topics: the mechanics of memory, theta brainwave states in children, spirit attachment/possession, astral experiences, regression therapy, and high-strangeness phenomena like "secret space program" memories.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Setting the Stage: Debunking Reincarnation (06:07–13:23)

• Seth’s Position: Former believer in reincarnation; now convinced it is "dumb, fake, and gay"—a phrase used for comedic emphasis.
• Foundation from Previous Episodes: To grasp this third part, listeners are urged to review the previous two episodes, which establish the spiritual mechanics, "vision control," and the role of demonic consent in shaping supernatural experiences.
• Main Premise: Experiences interpreted as reincarnation (e.g., vivid memories, matching birthmarks) are more plausibly explained as visions or memory downloads generated by demonic entities, who are likened to spiritual "AI" running a data-harvesting hive-mind.

“Assuming the demon thing is accurate… they are part of a hive mind, a Borg… basically an etheric AI … they have this data collection, harvesting… collecting all your thoughts, all your memories.”
– Seth Kickliter, (08:46)

2. The “Best Evidence”: Birthmarks and Children’s Memories (15:49–29:27)

• Theta Brainwave State: (15:49–21:33) Children ages 2–6 are most vulnerable to spiritual contact/memory implants due to naturally being in theta brainwave state.
• Ian Stevenson’s Research: (22:04) The leading reincarnation researcher claimed on children 2–4 with birthmarks matching reported past-life death wounds.
• Seth’s Rebuttal: (23:27–29:27) Argues this can be faked: demons simply identify children with birthmarks and implant matching memories (supported by local data records).
• Alternate Theory: Demons could "impress" birthmarks onto fetuses (akin to metaphysical injuries manifesting physically post-astral attacks).

“All you have to do is identify a child with a birthmark... then look in their records of people who died in the last five years within 100 miles who died with a mark that was close enough to that spot.”
– Seth Kickliter, (23:48)

• Skeptical Side-Note: No mass evidence for birthmark clustering after events like war or disaster, weakening the reincarnation argument.

3. Spirit Attachment, Possession, and Consent Law (34:00–47:34)

• Physical Manifestation from Spiritual Influences: Astral attacks can leave bruises, sigils, or marks, establishing a mechanism for metaphysical events affecting the body.
• Possession Cases: Drawn from Stevenson and other sources, some “reincarnation” cases are clearly spirit (demonic/ghost) possessions—sometimes with the prior consent of the living:
  • The Uncle Case (37:14): An uncle predicts he’ll be reborn as his niece’s son, tells of his surgical scar, and later the boy is born with matching birthmarks. Seth argues such specificity is easily staged/manipulated if spiritual entities are involved.
  • Multiple cases explored where personality change follows NDE or illness, consistent with possession, not reincarnation.

“Foreign spirits can occupy living persons, completely displace original personalities, and persist indefinitely, forever. And that's absolutely just describing possession.”
– Seth Kickliter quoting Ian Stevenson, (46:54)

4. Regression Memories & Deceptive Lore (76:54–91:48)

• Past Life & Between-Life Regressions: Books by Michael Newton, Dolores Cannon, et al. have thousands of accounts presenting a "consistent" inter-life narrative: pre-birth planning, meetings with “soul families,” karma balancing, and so forth.
• Seth’s Take: Consistency of vision is more likely a function of coordinated deception from a hive-minded spiritual realm, not proof of actual events.
  • Star Children/Spirit Babies: Seth lampoons stories from Elizabeth Carman's "Cosmic Cradle," where women have vision-interactions with “future spirit babies,” all heavily sentimental and reinforcing of the mother’s (and society’s) occult or reincarnation leanings.
• Inconsistencies Galore: Modern regression lore diverges sharply from ancient transmigration/reincarnation systems (e.g., Eastern religious beliefs about soul progressions vs. New Age “soul fragments” and multidimensional selves). Seth notes the ease and frequency with which the “spirits” adapt the story to fit cultural or individual desires.

5. Starseeds, Secret Space Programs & Implanted Memories (120:54–141:45)

• Starseeds: The “I’m a one-time incarnating alien here to help Earth ascend” narrative is, per Seth, a modern myth that shifts in whatever way gives people the most meaning or importance—often explained via “Akashic Record imprints” that rationalize why such people have “fake” past life memories despite being new arrivals.
  • Notable Quote: “If your whole life is so boring and you’re working at McDonald's, then you find out, oh, you’re a Starseed… it’s very meaningful.” (124:09)
• Secret Space Program (SSP) Lore: Alleged memories of fighting reptilians, mining on Mars, being age-regressed after 20-year space contracts, etc.—again usually recovered via regression, dreams, hypnosis.
  • Key Pattern: SSP “memories” are always trauma-rich, have operational gaps (“switching off/on” by entities), often come as fragments, and reinforce an elaborate, distraction-riddled meta-narrative (e.g., Trump as a secret savior/Nordic ally).
  • Psychological & Spiritual Risks: Seth worries these beliefs keep people traumatized and focused on false external enemies.

6. Disinformation, Evangelization, & Psychological Traps (146:14–159:21)

• Implanted Memories as Disinfo: Deliberately planted via spiritual means (sometimes corroborated by “spirit-guided” forms of regression therapy) to muddy the waters, produce mass confusion, and keep people from seeking Christ or questioning the spirit world.
  • Emma Kathryn Exchange: Seth recounts his email debate with a frontline SRA advocate, who holds that “false” memories are manufactured in studios by cult actors/props. He reasons this is vastly less plausible than mass deception by the spiritual realm, given the scope.
• False-Flag Memories: Spirits can "retro-fit" someone skeptical with new memories (“you woke up in a staged Hollywood set after your ‘past life’”), making doubt itself a manipulated conclusion.

7. Humor, Cultural Satire & Christian Critique (Interspersed Throughout)

• The show’s tone is sardonic, irreverent, and deliberately provocative, often joking about the wildness of the theories discussed, the lack of logical cohesion, and the appeal of “crazy lore” to the spiritually and culturally hungry.
• Recurring Bit: Seth or hosts will add “because gay” or “that’s gay” as non-sequitur punchlines, satirizing New Age or occult ideas as unserious distractions from Christian truth.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Demonic Data Harvesting:

"They are part of a hive mind, a Borg... like your AI connected to your phone, collecting everyone's data..."
– Seth Kickliter, (08:46)

On Regression Lore:

"People buy into these things pretty easily because it feels so profound. It's an experience. They relive it… and it's like a whole powerful emotion and intuition download."
– Seth, (10:43)

On ‘Birthmark Proof’ for Reincarnation:

"All you have to do is identify a child with a birthmark... then look in their records of people who died in the last five years within 100 miles who died with a mark that was close enough to that spot. That's all they have to do."
– Seth, (23:48)

On Spiritual Heroin:

"Well, a big factor is they've really, you know, made life so miserable for a lot of people on earth... anything they can grasp onto as a spiritual experience… it must be true... It's like spiritual heroin."
– Seth, (13:57)

On Implanted Trauma/SSP Memories:

"Whether I was in my own body or an avatar, I couldn't tell you… When I felt pain, it was real pain… Regarding the memory of these events, he said it's fragmentary because of all the turning on and off."
– Jason Sands (as relayed by Seth), (136:09–140:32)

On Starseeds:

"You don't have to do anything, you just have to be. Their energy affects everyone they come into contact with... The paradox is, they are supposed to be sharing their energy, but they don't really like being around people."
– Citing Dolores Cannon, (124:03)

On Escaping the Trap:

"If you believe one thing because it was profound and emotional and something else completely the opposite, but also emotional, you’re gonna believe it. It’s crazy."
– Co-host, (125:05)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 06:07 — Seth sets up his “debunk” framing; motivations for rejecting reincarnation
• 08:46 — “Hive mind, Borg, etheric AI” model for demons
• 15:49–21:33 — Theta brainwave state in children: why young kids are most “open”
• 22:04–29:27 — Analysis of birthmark/past-life matching cases (Ian Stevenson)
• 37:14–41:19 — The “Uncle” case study: predestined birthmarks via consent/possession
• 46:54 — Quoting Stevenson: Foreign spirits possess people indefinitely
• 76:54 — Regression therapy, “between-lives” memories, and vision control
• 91:48 — “Cosmic Cradle” and spirit baby testimonies
• 120:54 — Starseed lore/“one-time” incarnations and Akashic imprints
• 128:51 — Secret Space Program lore and memory mechanics
• 146:14 — MyLabs, disinformation, and Hollywood set theory for fake memories
• 159:21 — Reflections on simulated/false-flag memories and closing arguments

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Conclusion & Final Thoughts (160:08–162:11)

Seth’s Wrap-Up:
His main argument through nine hours of the NDS series is that almost all experiences—interpreted as evidence for reincarnation, starseeds, secret space dramas, or cosmic soul contracts—can be traced to sophisticated spiritual deception, memory implantation, and psychological consent. These deceptions are tailored to individual cultural context and spiritual openness, with the purpose of leading people away from Christ and into endless confusion or self-importance.

Takeaway:
Seth and the hosts urge listeners to question the source and internal consistency of all supernatural testimony, remaining skeptical of both secular-reductive and New Age/occult explanatory systems, and instead seeing Christ as the only true defense against spiritual manipulation.

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Find Seth Kickliter

• Book: "Spirit Realm Shenanigans: An Unhinged Rant Exposing the Psychic Fabrication of Discarnate Dweebs and Nephilim Nitwits" (Amazon & Payhip)
• Podcast interviews & free audiobook: see Linktree: linktree.com/sethlehem
• X (Twitter): @Sethem
• Instagram: @sethlehem_

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Closing Banter:
The episode ends with the hosts and Seth joking about challenging popular podcasters in the spiritual space, urging listeners to “go to Jordan Crowder’s page and tell him he’s wrong,” and with a usual tongue-in-cheek sign-off.

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For newcomers:
This episode, rich in humor and irreverence, is a wild ride through fringe spiritual beliefs, all centering on the thesis that apparent evidence for reincarnation and other metaphysical lore is a coordinated deception by a spiritual "Borg" opposed to biblical truth.

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Stay Curious. Stay Dangerous.

Transcript

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[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

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[Seth Kickliter]

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[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

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[Seth Kickliter]

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[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

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[Seth Kickliter]

Put his shirt on.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad, coming at you live from Studio B. That's what the B stands for. As always, I am David Lee Corbo, AKA the Raven. That is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation and camera switching.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

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[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

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[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

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[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

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[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

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[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Are they. That's a good. That's a good sign. Well, speaking of not telling people who's going to be at Bohemian Grove, joining us once again is Seth Kickliter. Seth, thank you for being here. Don't do the gang signs. Dude, what the.

[Seth Kickliter]

I thought.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Oh, we talked about the gang signs.

[Seth Kickliter]

Oh, to keep that. We ought to not talk about it

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

because we're in the villages.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

And there's vicious roaming gangs of. Don't knock that down. Elderly folks.

[Seth Kickliter]

No, I saw the golf carts. There's quite a few of them out here. Like a scary amount. More than cars, actually. It's a weird ratio.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

If you wear the wrong colors, they'll have sex with you.

[Seth Kickliter]

Well, I don't want that. I'm very celibate, as you guys know, so we gotta be careful.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

I didn't know that.

[Seth Kickliter]

Retain that seed for the moment.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Well, let's talk about some other things that people may not know about you. Where can they find your. Your books, your works? What are you all.

[Seth Kickliter]

You mean this thing? Yeah. You can find my chaotic, crazy, long book called Spirit Realm Shenanigans. An unhinged rant exposing the psychic fabrication of discarded dweebs and nephilim nitwits on Amazon. Please give me a review if it's positive or not. And then you can find it on payhip. Everything's on my link tree. My podcast interviews are all compiled there. My free audiobook, which is on YouTube and Spotify's link there. My contact, my playlist. I got some bangers on there for. What is that?

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Love Island.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Why is it love. Why is Love island on there?

[Seth Kickliter]

We have a similar. We have a similar algorithm. Yeah, you know, so, yeah, you can find it on my link Tree, which is linktree.forward.com forward slash. Sethlehem Bethlehem with a Seth. You can find my ex and my Instagram Seth Lehem. X is Sethem. Instagram is Sethlehem Underscore. Sorry. And that is where you can find my link tree bio in the bio and that's thing I have and yeah,

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

that was comprehensive dog.

[Seth Kickliter]

I try to be clear in my communication.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Well, we were supposed to do this sooner, but we were scrambling trying to get things ready because we wanted you to be our first guest in our. In our new area. And that actually happened down to the wire as. As it always does with us. Whenever we try to do something new, it is usually to the detriment of the guest who stands there with their hands in their pockets as we fumble wires.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Well, you're just going to pull wires.

[Seth Kickliter]

That's what you.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

That's pretty much. Yeah. Well, we invited you here to lay

[Seth Kickliter]

at the same amount of time every time it seems. So I, I like. I think everybody's playing around it by now and I think it's. I think it works out.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

I actually don't think we were 20 minutes late today, which is to say exactly on time.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

It's early for Puerto Ricans, I'd say.

[Seth Kickliter]

Y. Yeah, I think so we're on Puerto Rican time.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

So what? The island time. So. So what is it? This is part three. Seth, what the. What are we talking about?

[Seth Kickliter]

So I, I'm gonna do a part one and two overview because this will not make sense to people and be convincing at all if you didn't watch part one and ideally part two as well because there's a lot of data that's filtering into the third part where this is like the culmination of things. This is a ultimately like a reincarnation debunk. Reincarnation is dumb, fake and gay and I don't like it. And, and I used to be a believer in it and I did a big 180 after the whole, you know, coming to Christ stuff. Very fun. And I'm basically going to be breaking down my. Starting out with just my theory of like what's actually going on here for the ev. The supposed evidence quote unquote for reincarnation,

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

which there's a lot say vote on

[Seth Kickliter]

your notes that says. You mean that? Oh, it says notes.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Okay.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

I thought we're voting for something.

[Seth Kickliter]

No, no, no, no, no. That's just. That's just notes with a Z. So I don't forget what these are.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Reincarnation is like voting. So it's.

[Seth Kickliter]

Oh, well, I mean there's. You could apply that to a lot of things, but. Absolutely, bro. But yeah, basically it's gonna be part one and two is the bedrock for what's happening here. And I'm gonna explain the whole birthmark situation, which is the best evidence for reincarnation and talk about sources and I'm not gonna be reading as many excerpts as the first two, so that's nice. But I will be sharing all the lore.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Birthmarks. You mean like I got shot here or. I mean that now I have a birthmark in the same spot where I got shot in a previous.

[Seth Kickliter]

In a previous life? Yeah, yeah. Like we're gonna explain because that's like the best evidence reincarnation. But I'm going to get into the data and we'll start with that and then I'm going to get into the like regression stuff and where. How silly it gets and the patterns it shows with parts one and two material and how implanted memories are basically admitted by guides in multiple ways. Part two already got into that technically part one as well, where, you know, they have the SRT material and Dan Duvall stuff where.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Right.

[Seth Kickliter]

The SRT therapist, spirit releasement therapy will say, oh, just as often as you get real past life memories, you. You will get ghost attachments giving you their memories and you'll relive them like they're your own. You'll think they're your own and they admit that the own past life therapist themselves. So that's just a reminder from episode two where they already have admitted you can share memories from somebody other, another spirit and it's not yours and it'll feel like yours and you'll think it is unless you're told otherwise.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Do you remember how exactly it is they determine, like how do you. How do you differentiate.

[Seth Kickliter]

You first do spirit releasement therapy before past life regression. Because if you get rid of the spirits that are around and the coast is clear, then you know you can trust any past life memories. That's basically what they would say. So they always start out with one, finish with the other. But we'll get into the other lore, the future life memories. That's a fun one. And where they. The last hour or 45 minutes or so, whatever we do is going to be the craziest stuff. So stick around. It's going to be very elaborate psycho like reverse psychology war gaming of spiritual disinformation. And it's kind of elaborate, but it's fun and stick around for that. But yeah, whenever you want to jump into it, you let me.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah, go ahead, let her rip.

[Seth Kickliter]

Well, okay, so I want to start out with just a quick overview of what we established is established in the first two episodes last time. Because if you don't yeah, because if you don't understand these concepts, you're going to be like, oh, you're jumping to conclusions. It's like, no, this is established as bedrock in the first two episodes. So one is that assuming the demon thing is accurate and they are truly demons, they are part of a hive mind, a Borg, and they are basically an etheric AI. I like to consider them where they have this data collection, harvesting, basically like your AI connected to your phone and how it collects everybody's data and has these profiles on people and can know such so much about them. I think the demons basically, you know, if you want to say as above, so below, in this situation, it is the same thing where they are performing all of these signs and wonders, these fake prophecies through mediums, because they're basically collecting so much data. But that data is also not just accessing from what they see of you do, but accessing all your thoughts, all your memories and using that as data into their collection thing. So have we brought up the.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

The cliff high, the prediction, what he's using, like the AI chatbot sort of thing?

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

I don't think we've talked to Seth.

[Seth Kickliter]

I know about it. I don't know a lot about it

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

because it just reminded me, as you said it, they're operating on data collection and then they're creating assumptions from the data collection would look like. Which look like prophecy.

[Seth Kickliter]

There may be spiritual forces involved in that as well. Who knows?

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Okay, well, that this is the. That's a premise, the basic premise of his AI chatbot and what he's doing with that, where it's just aggregating information, spitting out information, predictions and, and oftentimes it's like closer.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Correct.

[Seth Kickliter]

Didn't he predict the Trump Rogan interview or something? Right.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

That's like one of the things that,

[Seth Kickliter]

you know, I think it was just playing in the script and they act like it's prophecy because they planned it out and give it to a source to.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Well, if you were going to plan out a podcast, if that was part of the script, it would be that podcast, right?

[Seth Kickliter]

Absolutely.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

But I mean, in the same way that you would have familiar spirits, demonic spirits that are observing you at all times, know your life happenings and, you know, your traumas and such like.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

So then can sort of prophesy things in your own life or predict things about you just based off of pattern recognition.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah. Base their things around that, you know, they know. They know what you want and they. I think they base past life memories around what does that person want. What void do they want to fill? Oh, we're going to fill it with this past life memory. That's a pattern. I see that. I think. And that's an assumption. You can't know that for sure. But why would they not do that? Sure, it's just strategically smarter because people are more likely to buy into it that way. And I think that absolutely happens because people buy into these things pretty easily because it feels so profound. It's an experience. They relive it. And it's like it's whole powerful emotion and intuition download of knowledge coming alongside it. So it's a whole thing. So anyway, we're establishing Hive Mind Borg, and that's how they have this unified cohesive deception across all these models, which I think is a unified thing. If they were, you know, some people say, oh, the fallen angels and demons are warring with each other. And they're not all unified. Yes, they give out dispelling lore that doesn't totally align with each other, but it serves ultimate strategic purposes. And I totally believe that they are unified as one hive mind. And that also explains a lot of the, you know, join with source, you know, assimilate into the board type thing. That's the whole idea is lose your identity and join the join us, you know, kind of thing. So those are things that are established, you know, basic demonic consent law and how, you know, sin and occult practices will open you up and also belief, belief in certain things. If you believe a false prophecy, you are giving some degrees of consent to demons to enact assignments to make those prophecies come to pass. And we'll talk about that more later. But we're establishing consent law, which is, you know, I think scripturally aligned. And a lot of people wouldn't argue with that. It's not that deep, but we're. These are things to keep in mind for the further material we're getting into. And then also the ultimate thing, which I'm presenting in part one and part two, is the vision control concept, which, you know, I established in part one. I believe the whole astral realm, much of it is admittedly simulations that are controlled by entities that have perfect, godlike, I use that word regretfully, control of every, every part of those experiences, the visuals, the intuitive downloads, even your lucidity levels are controlled. I think all the astrals, fake and not real that we visit. I'm not saying spirits aren't in some realm somewhere, but that's not what we're seeing when we go into the astral it's just basically controlled lucid dreams. So that concept is also what happened in part two with the visions that people accompanied during their holistic healings. Quote, unquote. Watch part two called DMT Lockout, if you are not familiar, because that is important stuff. And just the existence of that material proves there's a deception from spirits going on where they control your visions alongside it to give you a full somatic experience that you believe. And it's, it's important to note that they want you to believe by experience. That's the whole point of the astral. They can channel and tell you things that coincide with these ideas and tell you whatever. But if you experience it for yourself in a fake way, but if you experience it yourself, it's more likely to cement into you and into the culture whenever you are an asset, dispelling it for them as conduits for their disinformation.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Something I've been talking about lately where it's like the kind of, the genius of it was give you the materialistic paradigm first so that when you have a spiritual experience, even if it's one that they fabricated, it's so profound just by virtue of being, you know, something that you can experience even though everything is nuts and bolts in science, that you're more likely to believe it just because it's profound, not because it's true or it's testable or, you know, it aligns with anything that you previously knew just by virtue of happening to you. It is so amazing. And somehow amazing equals true. Nobody ever stops to be like these things lie to me.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah, well, a big factor is they've really, you know, made life so miserable for a lot of people on earth and also secular in so many ways until, you know, recent years, things are propping back up, but they've made things so shitty for so many people that they're like anything that they can grasp onto is a spiritual experience which is so foreign to our culture in the modern era relatively in many ways to like, you know, more ancient cultures. It's just, it's just so mind blowing that it's, it must be true and it's so profound. And also the intuitive downloads that go along with it. Oh, I just know this is positive because I feel so, so good. And you know what angels say when they show up to people in the Bible? They say, chill out, dog, don't be afraid. Yeah, calm down. They don't jack into your chemicals and manipulate you. They, they allow you to come to that conclusion by dealing with them.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

I hear heroin feels really good.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah, no, exactly. The spiritual heroin. It's dangerous. Guys don't do it. So, yeah, that's all the established things that you need to keep in mind for the following material. And if you don't believe any of those things, watch parts one and two and see what the data says to you in your heart.

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[Seth Kickliter]

Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. But we're I'm going to start out with the, the intro to the whole reincarnation chapter, which is where I talk about the theta brainwave state situation because a lot of people know by now, but I'll, you know, summarize it for you, that all these channeled situations, astral travel, deep meditation, remote viewing, any, any of this stuff, dreams, they, they're happening in a theta brainwave state, which is 4 to 8 hertz. And you can use binaural beats to get to that, you can use meditation practices, you can take drugs to get to that, all sorts of things. But theta brainwave state is the one that activates or thins the veil to these spiritual encounters. Right? So people, a lot of people don't know this, I don't hear this talked about. But children between different years of their life will have different brainwave states at a like baseline. So zero, and I'm summarizing this, and it's not going to be specific, but it's gonna be general here. But generally 0 to 2 year olds are in the delta brainwave state, which is like 0 to 4 hertz, 0.5 to 4 hertz, which is like a deep sleep state most of the time. That's why they're all, you know, slobbering over themselves and they're not coherent, you know, which makes sense. They're developing. Whatever.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Hold their heads up because.

[Seth Kickliter]

Exactly. They're all wobbly and stuff. You gotta, you gotta hold them up. Yeah, it's tricky. But that's 0 to 2 year olds. Now 2 to 6 year olds generally are in the theta brainwave state consistently as a baseline, especially two to four year olds. And we'll get into why that matters in a minute because 2 to 4 year olds is the data. And I hate to. It sounds weird talking about children, but you know, two to four year olds are what Ian Stevenson used for his research, mostly about 100 of his cases of reincarnation research in his 2500 compilation of, you know, information is using. He's the top reincarnation researcher in the world and I've read multiple of his books and we'll talk about a lot of his stuff in a minute. But basically he only, he doesn't use regression memories for his studies. He only uses children because they're less likely to make up elaborate lies. Make up. Yeah, resist as well make up elaborate lies and be able to carry off a big deception because they're just silly little boys and girls. Which makes sense. And I, and I respect that. And that's where the best evidence come comes from, not regression.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Right, right.

[Seth Kickliter]

And the whole birthmark thing, which we'll get into anyway, glossing over that for a moment. All these memories happen between 2 and 4 for the most part, pretty much 100, some of them 5 or 6. But the vast majority are between 2 and 4, which is. Exactly. And you could say, oh, that's just when they start talking and it's like. Well, it happens also be. While they're in the theta brainwave state consistently. So they're open. Now being open also requires some sort of spiritual opening and, and if you got really good Christian parents and dwell with the Holy Spirit and they're praying over you, I think you're going to have more protection than a pagan worshiping family who believes in reincarnation and promotes that kind of stuff.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

But this is why babies be seeing.

[Seth Kickliter]

This is, this is why babies be seeing. You know, and people talk about the whole calcification. Calcification. Calcification of the pinot. Calcification. Yeah, I wanted to say that. Right. And that might be a factor too, but it, the fact that that theta brainwave state is active in that age group specifically. That's when they're all coming in. And then they fade. These memories fade for most of them. But between six and eight, as their alpha brainwave states. Is it alpha? Yeah, alpha starts coming in. So 6 to 12 year olds are mostly in alpha brainwave states. And then 12 to 18 year olds, it's alpha and beta moving upwards. So your consciousness is literally raising as you grow up your baseline brainwave state.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

So I understand that that's a natural progress, but I can't help but wonder if like the, the sort of rigidity of like a public school system will expedite that process. So let's say you're supposed to be in that and naturally grow out of it by like 8, 9 years old. But you can have that process sped up. There's probably some benefits to staying like that, you know, for a while until you're introduced to, like I said, the kind of materialistic paradigm because you're in there in kindergarten and in first grade because I just remember when I was a. You have that. I don't know if you have the button, but I had a weird dream when I was a kid and I, I thought I understood it and it was like I climbed a ladder into the sky and then I lost my shiny. I was shiny. When I climbed the ladder, I was like glowing like Moses. And then when I came down the ladder, I wasn't shiny. No mo. And at like 6 years old, I was like, it's because school. Like, it's because school. Because. Well, I just, in my mind I thought like, yeah, I'm doing numbers. And now. And that's not shiny.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

That's a Stephen King idea, right? The Shining. Yeah, I guess young kids have that shine on them.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah, but, but I remember sort of not. I was just like, I knew that shit. I was like, yeah, dog, I'm fucking doing numbers now. I'm not shiny no more. And that was it. I just kind of moved on with my life. So I don't know, I just wonder if we're speeding up that process, if we're ruining something that is probably pretty special for a kid to be in that. I wonder what the biological benefits are or the psychological benefits of being in the theta brain wave state for those years are, you know, and what happens if you cut that short? If there's some measurable detriment.

[Seth Kickliter]

It's. Yeah, it's probably an instant influx of existential dread once you transition.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

You know what's interesting is that around that time I started being like everybody I know and love is going to die. I used to have such a hard time going to sleep because I'm like, I'm fucking.

[Seth Kickliter]

You figured out the truth, man. It hits you hard.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah, don't worry about it.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

They're going to reincarnate.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Oh yeah, that's right. It's going to be fine.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah, that's what we're here to prove today, guys. So, yeah, basically I think that's important to talk about because I never hear that correlation mentioned and I think it's important. And those memories, like I said, start fading around 6 to 8 as those theta brainwave states literally move out of their system on a general baseline. So that's important. And basically I'm going to describe what I think the situation is happening with the birthmark thing because keep in mind we're talking about data analysis, we're talking about vision control. The vision control accounts for the actual memory itself. And they can, they can give you really ancient past life memories that are just totally fabricated. They can be real ones. But the more modern ones that Ian Stevenson's researching, they're going into these kids that are 2 to 4 years old.

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[Seth Kickliter]

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[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

up a story about the birthmark.

[Seth Kickliter]

They're everywhere. And then all you have to do is go through your records of everybody who's died within 100. And it can be more than 100 miles. But most of them are within, within the last three years. Most people, incarnation, their incarnation gaps is one to three years, usually 16, 18 months, sometimes five, sometimes 20 years. Most of the time. Under, generally speaking, yeah. So within 100 miles, under three years,

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

for the most part is the 100 miles because these things aren't omnipresent and they're communicating, you know, like familiar spirit style.

[Seth Kickliter]

I think it's, I think it's, it's exclusively because it makes it easier for them to visit. So they're choosing someone closer because it's easier and it makes sense because I want to be part of the similar culture because I'm used to this and it's just like human nature and it's using that idea. But I think it's absolutely. They have people across continents all the time. But more than, more often than not, it's someone close by because they want you to get evidence and it's easier if they're close by. So then you take the family, you go meet the old family, and everybody is now believing it or partially believing or open to it.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Then you're going out and evangelizing.

[Seth Kickliter]

Collective consent is opening you up to, okay, well now this kid is going to get downloads of whatever questions you ask them to, to get answers to. Like a medium. Like, they'll, you'll ask them a question, you'll prompt them instantly get a download of information, they'll know how to answer that question and have this foresight. It's the same thing. Your, your belief in your consent to acknowledging this entire situation, especially collectively, is going to give them downloads of like, okay, so when they show up to their old family. It'll be like a little boy who's like three years old and he'll find his ex, his old wife, you know, that he was married to, banging out with. And it'll be like, remember we, we as we had a good time. You remember those. Remember the good old days. Just like three year old, a little sick. And some of them will hang out with them afterwards for quite a while. It's very strange. Or like a young girl and an old man. It's very.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

That's the worst ever. Right. Because you're a grieving widow of sorts and all of a sudden this child shows up at your door. And especially if you're in India, they don't have, you know, laws.

[Seth Kickliter]

Laws and morals and like that Tom Hanks movie, Big.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah, they're just gonna. These kids.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah. Well, you know, they don't talk about that, but it definitely happens. I know it does.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

No way.

[Seth Kickliter]

But it's not weird because that's. They used to do it in the past. Sure. Anyway, so all they have to do is identify a child with a birthmark and then give him the appropriate memory. And being in these pagan countries, they are not usually spiritually protected. And to a degree, you got to understand if these parents have any, they believe in reincarnation. A lot of them, most of them in these cultures, if any of them desire to go, oh, I wonder who my child was in a past life. And this kid is hearing, being taught reincarnation evidence and all this lore, he's like, I wonder who I was. That just, just that alone, I think opens you up for this potential deception because you want to know you're not seeking it. Maybe. But I think being in that theta brainwave state and combined with collective desire from the family, I think I, we can't prove that. But it fits in with consent law and how it operates. So I think that's reasonable enough to say that it opens you up because I don't think it can just happen to just anybody if they don't care about any of this stuff necessarily. I think something has to open them up. And I think desire, Desire to know stuff that's not true, I think is enough.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Personally, I just, I did a quick Google just so I wasn't making up on the show. Usually that doesn't stop me. But it is worth noting that India is widely considered to have the highest number of reported and documented cases of reincarnation.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

And so they, you know, that's within their sort of. Is. It is the Dalai Lama One of those. Who's the reincarnated?

[Seth Kickliter]

14 times over.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

14 times over. So some of their deities are. They just keep coming back over and over again, and they. They often are worshiping children who are thought to be the reincarnated. You know, insert more recently.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Worshiping some white baby.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

No, no, no. It was an Indian baby worshiped aggressively by white people. Or maybe what you said happened, too. But I saw a video where it was just like, an Indian. Indian kid and all these fucking white people in India, which is just like. To me, it's. It's. One of the most irritating things is

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

watching Seth looks like a white person in India.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

He looks like a recovering white person.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

You ever been to India, Seth?

[Seth Kickliter]

I haven't been on a plane except one time inside the country, so I'm gonna say.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Where'd you go?

[Seth Kickliter]

My dad's in Virginia.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Okay.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

I don't know. It's just a guess. I was just throwing it out there

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

now, but it might be going on a plane.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah. Yeah. Big opportunities on the way.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

That's right.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Got some opportunities.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Don't mumble it. I mean, it's. Seth's. Got big opportunities.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

With your chest.

[Seth Kickliter]

You doesn't have to. I don't know if I'm supposed to say things.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Big opportunities are coming.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah. That's why I was trying to be casual. And now look at the camera right

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

now and manifest it.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Manifest it.

[Seth Kickliter]

Well, I don't. I feel uncomfortable with that word.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Say thank you, Lor. Jesus Christ.

[Seth Kickliter]

Thank you. Opportunities. That. What were you.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

That was good. You were really.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

I was on it.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

He was right on my trip. No, I told you to say that. What?

[Seth Kickliter]

Hey. I wasn't supposed to do that.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

That back on track. He's gonna get shitty with us if we keep doing it.

[Seth Kickliter]

This is gonna be five hours.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Guys, India is a very. It's a highly paid. It's the most paid. I know it is. So you know, this is right in alignment with everything that you're saying.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah. And a lot of them are practicing in the occult. And I think practicing makes you even the most open. And a lot of these families probably are. And that's an assumption. They. That's data. They're not when they do this. But I'm just letting you know, it just logically makes sense. That's why they're the most prolific in these experiences. So anyway, all they got to do to do this birthmark thing and to fabricate is find someone with a birthmark. Look in their records of people who died in the last five years within 100 miles. Who died with a mark that was close enough to that spot. That's all they have to do. Yeah, that is it. And they're like. But now there's a second version of this where we're gonna get deeper about it and it's gonna get crazier.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Can I just say, by the way, how great it must feel to be a special person in India, because there's so many people in India and everybody's pooping in the streets and everybody lives in poverty, and it's such a area.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

It's probably why this. This rhetoric is like, you're special among

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

this sea of flesh, this sea of stinky flesh. Yeah, that must feel really great.

[Seth Kickliter]

The whole town comes around and celebrates. They make it a whole. They make a whole story around town.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

I mean, they do.

[Seth Kickliter]

They.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

They literally. There's no shortage of videos and such of them worshiping children, you know, for. So, yeah, man, it's. It's a trap. Big, stinky trap.

[Seth Kickliter]

The stinkiest. Yes. So, yeah, that's. That's my explanation for most of the birthmarks. Now, it does get weirder because that is. That is the short version, and I think that's an easy account for most of them because 30 of these cases seem to have that out of the 2500 that Ian Stevenson recorded. Now, there's a second version, and it's weirder and much more speculative, but we're gonna get. We're gonna use case studies to support it. Okay, so strategy two for birthmarks is. I think they create that and just put it on you. Now, that's a big jump. That's a big jump in a lot of. You have a what now?

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Like a Kool Aid stain?

[Seth Kickliter]

Let me see. I was like the Kool Aid man, busting through a brick wall. Or is it like, just like a

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

little red dot on my.

[Seth Kickliter]

You have to move your leg up.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

You see right there? It's kind of shiny. So you can see right there. It's like a little red dot.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

That's literally just Koolaid.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

That's. No, that's Kool Aid from when I was a toddler.

[Seth Kickliter]

I remember stuck to you, and you never cleaned it off.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

I remember dripping Kool Aid. I was sitting all funny style, and I had some Kool Aid and I drank it. It dripped on me. And then I sat there for the day, and when I went to go take a shower, it didn't come off.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

So, wait, Seth, you're saying that you think.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Don't just.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

You think that this is that nefarious that people are going around like burning kids? No, in similar spots.

[Seth Kickliter]

Wait, where did that come from?

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

No, he's saying they gave him birthmarks.

[Seth Kickliter]

Oh, no, I'm saying, like, demons impress them in the. In the womb.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

So not so nefarious.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

But that's nefarious.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah. Now. Now that's a jump. And people are gonna go, oh, this guy's just making up to support the biblical narrative. And I'm like, well, let's. Let's get into it for a minute. Because many side quests before that, you guys have, I'm sure, heard of stories of people going into astral experiences, abductions, waking up from spiritual attacks, shadow people, which. These are metaphysical manifestations or astral simulation manifestations. People will come back and they will have physical bruises on their body after a national attack. That is not rare. I've heard plenty of cases. There's plenty of documented cases. So we know that there can be some sort of mixture of the metaphysical to the physical transition there.

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[Seth Kickliter]

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[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Right?

[Seth Kickliter]

And. And they're. Something happens to where this guy's like. Like losing his trust in them. Like something sketchy happens. I don't remember what it was. I think he just loosely glossed over it. But he questions who they are for a moment for the first time, and he's like, I don't know if I buy it, what they're, you know, the. They're shoveling to me. And they instantly are reading his mind the whole time, obviously. And they go, ah, the jig is up. So they transform into some, you know, demonic, scary creatures, whatever it may be, and started astrally attacking this dude, jumping the. Out of him.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

And he's getting beat up.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah, he's getting beat up.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

He's like, the jig is up.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah. I don't know the whole dynamics of how that went.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

But he gets out of it. When he comes back, he's screaming like. Kind of like a, you know. That was simulation, bro. Chill out.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

It's probably pretty violent feeling, but he was. He was screaming. And then he literally is said to have these sigils imprinted on his skin, rising and rising subdermally. And they're shaped, specifically calculated, not some rain and blotch, but one's an Egyptian hieroglyph. One is a. What was the other one? I wrote it down here. One was a cross, which might have been upside down, who knows, but it's just weird. And the other one was a. Oh, the star of. The Star of David. I mean, REM fan or whatever it is. Right. Literally all imprinted on his skin subdermally after an astral attack. Now, that shows calculated control. That is not just a random blotch, which also. Most birthmarks are random blotches, it seems. But if they can do calculated astral attacks, you know, turning into some physical manifestation on your body.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Right.

[Seth Kickliter]

With whatever reason that opened them up to be allowed to do that, they can do that. And there's multiple cases of people coming from the astral attacks with physical manifestations. So my whole logic here is. And we'll get into why I believe it more so with case studies in a minute.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

We're talking about scratches and injuries and bruises. We're just. And. And a birthmark is just a brown blotch. It's. It's.

[Seth Kickliter]

It's pigment cells, it's melanocytes, am I right? That are just getting clustered abnormally.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Same thing.

[Seth Kickliter]

That's not like. Yeah, but I'm saying if you're a pregnant mother and you have a fetus developing inside of you, and then you're an occultist of some sort, or you want to find. Or you're trying to manifest some soul to be born as your son, which some people do, or you're trying to do anything like that, or. Or just the desire to know who your son is going to Be from a past life, any of that. Like I said, I think a cult practice is the biggest opener. And they're probably doing a lot of that in these pagan occult, you know, countries. I think that opens you up. And the fact that they can do this in an astral attack instantly. Think about developing months in a fetus. Can they move cells around? I mean, they can download full memories into us, they can affect our thoughts, they can take us into these simulations. I don't think it's incredibly far fetched that if we open up via divination that we give them permission to not only download these memories into us, but also download, you know, little pigment, mess up things. Sure. And this is a big stretch to some people and I get that. But it, there's. I'm gonna get into a case in a second that I think kind of.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Look, it's a big stretch to say this birthmark is representative of the way that I died in a, in a past life. So I think it's okay to try

[Seth Kickliter]

to ground and get crazy.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

The birthmark idea. I know this is going to be. He's going to hate this. But it reminds me of the Shroud of Turin, how that kind of like short, sharp burst of light creates an impression on the inside.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

Of.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Of this shroud that is like microfiber. But like. Yeah, you have that same sort of phenomenon with people. So there is like a, maybe some sort of a frequency aspect to the attack that's happening.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Could be.

[Seth Kickliter]

Absolutely. But yeah, it is pretty speculative. But we're going to get into all the reincarnation lore and all assets of it and just see. Okay, well, is this matching up the patterns of deception from the first two episodes? Absolutely. And two. What else can we get? Like, are you gonna. You either have to believe the stories I'm going to tell you as legitimate memories and legitimate things happening, or you, or you have to believe it's a deception. There's. There's not really a neutral middle line where they are doing the deceptions, but it's also real stuff because why are they going through great efforts to deceive you of these past life cosmology and this reincarnation cosmology, if it's actually real, what do they have to gain from that? It's strange. So you're gonna hear a lot of goofy stories in a bit. And if you, you have to believe them all, or believe me, that's. You don't get a third option.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

I mean that's.

[Seth Kickliter]

I'm just saying that. But it's true. So one case study that kind of supports what I'm saying here in a somewhat indirectly, I call the uncle man. And this is in Ian Stevenson's 20 cases suggestive reincarnation. He talks about this uncle and his niece are hanging out, right? And the, and his, you know, nephew in law, and they're having dinner or something, eating together, and he's talking about reincarnation. And he says to them, hey, not to be weird or anything, but if I reincarnate, I want to. Can I be your son? Is that weird? And, and they're like, yeah, yeah, I'd be cool with that. And they're probably just being nice, but you know, he said, well, if I'm gonna be your son, you'll know it's me. And I want you to know it's me because I'll have birthmarks and it's going to be this spine on my spine. He says, I have this huge surgical scar. His whole back was cut open for some surgical thing. And his, he has a huge scar down the center of his back and he has another smaller scar near it.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

So these entities are just like.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah, yeah. And keep in mind giving consent to use his identity, first of all.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

And, and also she's going, okay, yeah, I'm cool with that. And I don't know how receptive she really was, but you still, you, you. She accepted the possibility of it being true because they all believe in reincarnation. And he's saying, well, if I'm gonna be your son, you're gonna know by this. And it's a weird dynamic to be like, I'm your uncle, but I really want to be your son. It's a little creepy, a little, little weird vibe there, but I guess it's wholesome to some freaks. So anyway, he dies not long after this, and then she has a son not long after that with a couple years birthmarks. And that that little weirdo has the exact birthmarks. He said, now, now, wait a sec. That's very convincing evidence.

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Yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

But you got to keep in mind why the hell is his surgical wounds the mark and not. It's not a death wound. Now it's a little strange that he not only prophesied it and allowed entities to hear it and be involved with maybe on assignment to activate that situation, but you got to keep in mind, if non fatal wounds are also going to be developed into future birthmarks, I feel like birthmarks should be way more prolific and common and way more like, okay, think about all the mass deaths that have happened over the years from wars, mass bombings, all of these areas. If the reincarnation evidence is real, there should be mass amounts of people with like, you know, after Nagasaki, Hiroshima, whether that was a nuke or not, you know, you can believe what you want. People were blown the hell up and they, they were exploded. Now if you were blown up into smithereens, you would think your birthmarks would be a little wild and noticeable. Shouldn't there be tons of people born within 100 miles one to three years after that? A lot of babies in the same places concentrated having birthmarks of, you know, tons of explosion looking like birthmarks or gun or gunshot wounds or something that shows that they died in war and all these violent deaths in many places. But there's no like concentrated study I could find showing there's like this pattern of that which would be the case in these situations. So the fact that he had a non fatal wound addressed, you would think, well, fatal, if non fatal wounds are going to be birthmarks then you should have almost every death wound visible.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

There's no real rhyme or reason, there's no consistency.

[Seth Kickliter]

There's no consistency. And that, and that throws me off because like I said, he prophesied this entire situation and we know they can have metaphysical situations in the astral effect your physical. So these consent laws I think are a lot deeper and a lot weirder than people think.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

You know what that also throws off is like the belief with, within their reincarnation system where it's a karmic based system.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Yeah.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

And you need to have your karma all sorted out or else you're going to come back as either a surf. Right. Or whatever their caste system is or you're coming back as a animal. I'm gonna come back as your son. But that's what I'm saying across the board there's no consistency.

[Seth Kickliter]

No, yeah, like, and we'll get into it more later but like Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, the ancient Eastern reincarnation teachings which are all developed by entity contact and astral situations. Just like the modern stuff they teach us sequential. You start out, I believe it's like rocks, then grass and then move up to plants and animals, insects, animals and then humans.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

You go how does rocks end? Like how does it end?

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

A movie career.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

With a banger, a movie career.

[Seth Kickliter]

God, that threw me off.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Now I gotta walk back in what's up the island of Maui? Or is that what it is, children?

[Seth Kickliter]

But anyway that's the ancient eastern stuff is sequential and it's evolving up you don't go down, you don't downgrade. But other people teach that you do downgrade if you mess up. And the more modern stuff teaches you can split your consciousness and that, share it with other people. And they teach, no, it's one soul, one body at a time. And then some people go, no, there's no time. So you can go backwards and forwards in time and there's no rhyme or, you know, there's no structure to it. And that's the more modern channelings which get a lot more exacerbated in how outrageous the lore gets. And we'll get into more of that.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

I love also the, the sort of the pompousness that these people will say that profound with. It's like actually, yeah, one body, one soul. And someone says, well no, actually soul fragments might be able to share your corporeal form with you,

[Seth Kickliter]

man. Exactly. But speaking of the whole split consciousness thing is one example that I like to bring up is the Jameson twins. I don't remember what year this was a couple decades back. But these, the Jameson twins got famous a little bit because they shared psychic abilities and they shared past life memories. They claimed to have the exact same past life memories and telepath. They could telepathically communicate with each other and they had precognitive visions such as predicting 9 11. By the way, how many. You know, if I had a nickel for everybody who had a precognitive 911 dream. Yeah, I, I'd. I'd be a middle class citizen, you know, I would have quite a. Quite a few dollars because there's so many. And you know, if demons had any orchestration, involvement in 9 11, they would

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

not have had any orchestration.

[Seth Kickliter]

It was definitely accepted exclusively physical Jews on this planet, right? Physical Jews without the help of the astral Jews, which are.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Don't. Don't tell that to Dustin.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

That's what I was gonna say. Those are demons, by the way. I don't know if you're aware of that.

[Seth Kickliter]

So yeah, anyway, so many people got like 911 visions and dreams in advance and that's just trying to awaken people to go, oh, look, I predicted this thing and so did all these people. Our consciousness must be, you know, connecting to it because it's such a massively important event that in the future reached back in time to gravitate towards our focus. You know, they talk about that whole conscious connection thing. So the Jameson twins, though, they shared past life memories. And like I said, ancient Eastern teachings teach you cannot split a soul Even theosophy, which is not much, not even that old, teaches you can't do that. So. And they're all getting this information from entities.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

So where do the. Where does, like, Jewish mysticism get the Jews having, like, two souls?

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Oh, yeah, that's right.

[Seth Kickliter]

Oh, is that a thing?

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah, yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

They differentiate between the goyim and there's

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

a fundamental difference in the composition of a goyim soul versus a Jewish soul. That's what they say.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

No, no. It's because a Jewish soul has more than one component. So, like two souls almost.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah, yeah. I don't look into that pocket full of foreskins.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

You should look into that because I think they are talking about soul fragmentation in a way.

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[Seth Kickliter]

Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Yeah, that's a. That's a concept that's been kind of rebranded throughout many things, and I don't have every one layered. Well, they have right now, but their

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

lies are always pretty. I'm talking about these entities consistent. They just tweak some of the details.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah, but the details is where they don't. They're not compatible. And they can't all be telling the truth because they diverge so much in the astral stuff and in the spirit Releasement therapy episode two concept. You saw plenty of that where they're orchestrating so much, and that is undeniable. And people were telling me, no, it's your belief in it that healed you. It's not demons. You know, laying off pressure strategically. And I Go well, if it's. But either way, spirits are involved in their impression, the visions. It is not your subconscious, collective subconscious of everybody tricking you in a unified way. It is absolutely tricking you so that you can heal yourself with fake belief in something that's not real. That would be the only explanation for non nefarious coordinated spirits doing it. But it is coordinated and there are spirits involved. And the only explanation that it makes any sense is a demonic biblical coordination of disinformation agenda catering to beliefs.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

You touched on it a moment ago. If your illness is something that is of a spiritual disposition and they just kind of ease up on you for a little bit, well, that's going to look like a miraculous healing. But you know, you didn't realize that the entire time it was spiritual in nature.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah, it's like when people go to a house and they're like, oh, I'm gonna, I'm gonna fan the sage and light these incenses and that'll clear the spirits. They want you to believe that work so they'll leave you alone for a little bit. So you think you figured out a new method of getting rid of them. But it's stupid and it doesn't make any sense. That's only Jesus.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

That's right.

[Seth Kickliter]

But yeah, tons of fun stuff. I want to remind people I said it earlier, but it's so important before I continue that I'm gonna read the quote because it's really quick.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Okay. While you find that, I just want to address the chat. Everybody is asking, what is this fantastic bit of fashion that I'm wearing? This is the, the base to our Pleiadian outfits that are going to be all over Bohemian Grove. I, I kind of like this thing so much. I, I have a feeling that we're going to be able to do some customization to it and sell them on top. Lobster.com. you'll have Nephilim Death squad, Pleiadian jumpsuits. And yes, I do need silver boots and silver gloves. I'm working on that.

[Seth Kickliter]

You need the blonde wig, man. We gotta, we gotta be matching.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

What happened to blonde David? You used to do that all the time.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

It's just a lot.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah, the frosted tips.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

No, I did the whole thing full blonde and then it would become frosted tips when it grows out. But it's just such maintenance.

[Seth Kickliter]

You have the rest of the look down though.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

I used to call it Summer David. Cocaine David.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

But like his whole family would do it. It's.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah, my wife would do it, my son would do It. But it's just like, it's so much to do.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Did you pull the passage?

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Pull the passage?

[Seth Kickliter]

I got it and I lied. It's not a reminder of an old thing. We're gonna do that later. I was wrong. It's okay. This is Ian Stevenson, the top world's leading reincarnation researcher of all time. Nobody ever brings this up, but he admits that possession accounts for quite a few cases of reincarnation lore.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

But he knows which ones don't.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah, right. Not possession from demons. Because he, you know, disqualifies that entirely, says, no, that's not what's happening. It's ghost of the people. Just like how in the SRT lore, remember when I said in episode two where people will say, like Carl Wicklin's 30 years among the dead says, no, all reincarnation memories you're accessing are from ghost attachments. And then in SRT and lore, 60 years, 80 years later, they're saying, no, some of them, a lot of them are from ghost attachments. But once you clear the attachments, then those are your real reincarnation memories.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

So it's completely inconsistent. Yeah, some people are closer than others, but nobody wants to concede that ghost is demon.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah, as long as it's non biblical, they'll, they'll fan.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

That's really all over the place. Yeah, they just can't go there.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah. And they do have demons, but they call them dark force entities and they change the title because they don't want the biblical connotation of demon, you know, because it's, it's not that it's a different thing. And they're much sweeter than those guys. But the leading reincarnation researcher in the world, and he says this in multiple ways, multiple times, but one quote he says is foreign spirits can occupy living persons completely displace original personalities and persistent indefinitely, forever. And that's absolutely just describing possession. But he's saying, no, it's the ghost of that person who is roaming the earth. And this happens usually during either a near death experience or some, you know, great fever, where you're sick and near dying, or when you die. And we're about to get into some case studies, I'll summarize a few. One example is jazz beer, Jad. I'm going off a memory. Let's see if I do this right. So this is just saying jazz beer, Jack. I'm saying it probably with some American

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

accent, but it's an Indian dude.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Jasmine was a three and a Half year old, young buck. And he is in India, I think, and he is dying. He has a fever? No, no, he has smallpox. And he dies of smallpox temporarily for what they say is a few hours. But I don't know if that was true. It could be an exaggeration, but it might be true. I've heard people dying for longer.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah. By the way, did you guys see

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

the video of the Indian dude that jumps head first into the pool?

[Seth Kickliter]

But it's like a short pool.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

I've actually seen three different versions of the same kind of event.

[Seth Kickliter]

Okay.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

He knocks himself out and his friends watch him.

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[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

They just stare at him. Yeah. It's insane. They watch him draw videos of that phenomenon.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

So is this kind of what you're talking about?

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Oh yeah. This is avoidable with Jazz Pinder.

[Seth Kickliter]

Well, Jazz Pinder has smallpox, but it's, you know, that's two different ends to the same goal.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Everybody just stands around and goes, what's wrong with Jazz Bender? He's got big box all over.

[Seth Kickliter]

So. Yeah. So this kid dies. It's sad. And then a few hours later he awakens and he is not claiming to be Jazz Beer anymore. He's very mature and got this like adult like vibes.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Interesting.

[Seth Kickliter]

And he is claiming to be Sabha Ram. I'm saying it probably wrong, but Sabha Ram, which is a 22 year old who died. Their records say anywhere between 2 to 14 days before this. They don't have the exact day, but at least a few days to two weeks. Right.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

They don't even know.

[Seth Kickliter]

They don't even know. Well, they. Because the records of his death is like, you know, ambiguous apparently because they live in a village where it's very. I guess the, the structure of Legis records are pretty rough around the edges. Yeah. Probably non existent. Very word of mouth. But either way, he died a few days before max. Two weeks. This kid died.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

You know how. How hard it must be. They die in droves. Every time a train passes through town in droves. They lose a 16th of the village every time a train.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Not a great example.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

It's. They would never be able to.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

These people die left and right. But continue.

[Seth Kickliter]

It's like Holy Grail where they get the. Where they get the guy on the. On the wheelbarrow and he's like, collect the dead.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah, they're not worried about documenting the dead. They're just worried about getting them off of the streets because of the smell. Well, they have to, they have to have room.

[Seth Kickliter]

They don't want to cover up the Poop smell of poop.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Smell.

[Seth Kickliter]

Anyway, so this kid dies, he comes back, he's claimed to be this 22 year old who just died a few days before and he died from falling off a cart hitting his head. Kind of embarrassing way to go out, whatever. And this. But he also comes back with not only lives and memories and details verified because he goes, oh, well, this is stuff only that guy would know. And definitely not demons downloading information into you or for their memories. But anyway, he knows the stuff that only that guy knew and they prove it by seeing his family. And another layer is he claims to have intermission life memories. Obviously not of reincarnating because this is not how you reincarnate. He skipped the process. How did he get there? He says he was guided by a holy man, a spirit that guided him after he died from falling off the cartoon a few days later. Hey. He's like, hey, go, go put your soul in that little boy who's dead before they cremate him right now.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

Which is a little weird thing for a holy man to do. But he told him to do that instead of going to the reincarnation route the normal way like everybody else. And then he comes back and is possessing this little boy. And I don't know why he'd want to do that, but it seems like a good idea at the time. And you know, if it is demonic and they're just playing on a whole theatrics is they're creating lore and mythology and stories to validate the lore, but also expand the whole possibility and potential of consciousness and also showing. Oh well, okay. Ghosts can obviously traverse around the earth realm after they die because otherwise, how do you explain this?

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Right.

[Seth Kickliter]

It's not reincarnation through the going above and getting descended through some.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Do you think is happening when people will experience like head trauma and then suddenly they'll understand how to do complex things?

[Seth Kickliter]

Oh yeah, I think, well, that's the whole savant syndrome thing.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

And it's like, well, did that spiritual experience. Did you. Did you go into some astral experience near nde and then entity contact and then they offer you anything and then you, you come, they're like, oh, you can come back, but you gotta work.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

What do you think about the idea that like all information exists on a, on a, on a type of frequency

[Seth Kickliter]

like the akashic records?

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

No, no, like, like once you think it, you know, like if I'm thinking about mathematics, then you do that. It ex. No, I don't, I don't. Okay. That was a bad example. If I'm thinking about hot dogs, your third time here. As I think about the hot dogs, they're now like, there's a thing that you can tap into. It's almost the same wavelength.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

It's like, if I thought of an idea, somebody will create that soon if you don't move on it.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah. Like the telephone was created around a very similar time, I think within the same year in different continents. Yeah, yeah. You know, large

[Seth Kickliter]

harmonic resonance or something. Or something resonance where it's like, oh, this idea was thought of before. Even Stephen Greer that talks about this, where he's like, bless him.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

He's doing his rounds.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

He's got monster.

[Seth Kickliter]

He's. He's. Yeah, he's powered by the Dark Lords, sure. Look at that, man. He's strong, though. He could beat my ass, yo.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

He really could. And he's gay, so.

[Seth Kickliter]

He's gay.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

He's gay, yo.

[Seth Kickliter]

I should have known.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

We saw his wiener on ne to America. No, I didn't, I didn't. I wasn't gay about it. I just. With Hidden in, we did his episode with Hidden In. Plain Sight. They found his grinder.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Hey, Seth, did you know Stephen Greer is gay?

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Did you know?

[Seth Kickliter]

I just found out. And now I got to see his wieners.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

He was an unremarkable wiener, but, you know, he is a dude that could feasibly hold you down and do penetrations on you. So.

[Seth Kickliter]

So. Well, now I'm even more scared.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

God bless Stephen Greer.

[Seth Kickliter]

I love you, Steve.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

An American hero.

[Seth Kickliter]

True hero.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Well, it does have a really scary.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Flying a little close to the sun now.

[Seth Kickliter]

I really.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah, that's right.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

You're this close to meeting your. Your idol, Dan Duvall.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

That's right.

[Seth Kickliter]

I'm gonna send him a strongly worded letter and we're gonna see his Weir too.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

Why am I the only one who hasn't seen these guys? Winners, a book.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

And afterwards, we'll show you. It's like a picture book.

[Seth Kickliter]

Red's gonna be so mad at me. We're talking about wieners so much. I already know. I already know. He's crazy.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Shout out to Red.

[Seth Kickliter]

He crushes Shout out. Red, I love you so. Yeah, well, we gotta. We gotta get back on the ball, guys. We're actually. We're making good time, though, so. Yeah. I want to get over two more of these possession cases that are covered by Ian Stevenson. That was the first one, obviously. Sketchy vibes there. Why would a holy man guide you to possess a little boy? That's weird. Yeah, just go to the reincarnation process. That's obviously a dark entity of anything.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Do you understand the function though? Like what's the point of repeatedly incarnating and then just being a dude in this realm, being worshiped, dying, being reincarnated as a child, being worshiped, being a dude in this realm. Like if this is the 14th incarnation of Dalai Lama, what is the point?

[Seth Kickliter]

To figure out you're on a prison planet so you can escape and then

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

join the board every single time.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah, it's like, so is that really

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

within their, their belief system? Is that.

[Seth Kickliter]

Well, it varies but essentially it's like the new age stuff is more positive. Oh, we're going to bounce our karma, we're going to do a great job. It's going to be, we're going to be, you know, we can live however long we want. And then the Gnostic side is like, no, it's a trap. We have to escape shape. It's the same, same idea but a lot a darker spin. And the Archons are trying to trick us. Reincarnation drop. Yeah, so it's the same thing, just a darker spin on it. And I think the Gnostic thing is going to be more prevalent in the near future.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

I wonder, do the Gnostics look at the Dalai Lama and like look at this guy. He's just trapped. He just keeps.

[Seth Kickliter]

You know what, that's a good point.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

They probably kissing these kids.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah. I was like, why don't we bring that up earlier? I wasn't on the program. It's a kid behind closed doors, like an adult.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

We agreed that we weren't going to say that we weren't going to talk

[Seth Kickliter]

about the Dalai Lama.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

I'm sorry, Red is not gonna like this.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

No, he's not.

[Seth Kickliter]

I'm doing this for you, Red.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

I'm gonna tell Ste. Rear

[Seth Kickliter]

we gotta get back on the ball so we have more replacement reincarnation which keep in mind, Ian Stevens in the top reincarnation research which people cite all the time said he had a whole, he had a whole like framework around it where there's partial possession that's temporary and long standing possession that lasts forever till you die. And he covers, he covers all this and no one talks about it because they're like, well, the implications are weird. Oh yeah, yeah.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Put that all up in your.

[Seth Kickliter]

And let it dry. Yeah. And then a. I'm trying to be comfy. That's my problem.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

But then angle it so it's pointed towards your.

[Seth Kickliter]

You're right. You're right.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Right in your mouth.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

There you go. No, no, don't do that. We don't wash those.

[Seth Kickliter]

No one saw that, right?

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

We don't watch those. I don't know. Okay.

[Seth Kickliter]

Anyway, so he. He covers this and he, like I said, denies demonic stuff. It's all ghosts.

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[Seth Kickliter]

Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. So another case is Sumitra. And she is in some country I don't know the name of. And she says that. Well, she shouldn't say. She died when she was 17. 1985, July. And she revives a few hours later. Not hours. I'm just adding that however long later. And she claims to be Shiva Tripathi. That's her new name.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Okay.

[Seth Kickliter]

That Shiva girl died two months before and has been roaming the earth plane for two months by being pushed in front of a train. Wiley. Coyote style. What's the guy's name? Why something Coyote.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

I think it's a cartoon.

[Seth Kickliter]

Cartoon Coyote being pushed in front of a train. And that's how she died.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

It's the Indian. It's just called Indian style.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah, okay. One of the. One or the other.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

There's only a few machinery or trains. That's really shallow.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

The Chinese people with a lathe for sure. You know what a lathe is?

[Seth Kickliter]

Isn't it like a scythe or something?

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

A lathe is just a cylindrical spinning device where you can kind of like take chunks out of something. But sometimes they get wrapped up in it. Their flesh, their clothing. And it doesn't Stop. And it just spins them like a top and all of their limbs fly off.

[Seth Kickliter]

I've seen that in some movies before. Yeah, okay, I'll keep that in mind. So, yeah, this Demetra girl became Shiva after she revived from a near death experience. And then her new personality is much smarter because the Samitra girl who died was dumb and could barely read. And this new girl's prolific, educated in Hindi and knows multiple languages now and is, you know, giving off a totally different personality and is a different entity

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

and claiming to be entirely possessed.

[Seth Kickliter]

Entirely possessed. Yeah. Buy a ghost or a demon, who knows? Let's crack this case, Nancy. And then we have. Sorry, Nancy. So, yeah, two months roaming the the earth plane and whenever she comes back, her parents are like freaked out. They're like, this isn't our daughter. Some freaky demon. And they think it's a demon. They don't call it like the biblical demon, but their version of it. What is it called? The freaking. I forgot the name. Freaking.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

What India calls like a demon. Gin.

[Seth Kickliter]

Gin. Yeah, that's what it is.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

India uses gin as well. I thought that was a Middle Eastern.

[Seth Kickliter]

Maybe I'm wrong. I think it's people mostly.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Mostly brown people.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

People of the sand.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Okay, fine.

[Seth Kickliter]

People of the sand. Okay, so a gin is possessed. They think they are possessed by maybe a ghost, but maybe a gin. And they get what they call ojas, A, O H, J, A s, which are basically pagan spiritual healers, exorcists to come and exercise the spirit out of this girl. And they fail because they're not doing it in Christ's name. And they could mess around and get them out like SRT style by playing with them, but they decided not to. They're like, now we want to create a good story here for the lore and create mythology. So they didn't leave and they just basically tortured this girl while she was possessed. Whatever. Hell yeah. And yeah, right. And now she dies, you know, I think 18 years later, something like that. And never changed back to her personality except one time she changed back to Samitra.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

What did she say? Help, help. Please God, kill me now.

[Seth Kickliter]

I mean, she probably was thinking that, but from what I know it's not documented, but what happened is she gets a fever, I think two years or so after this initial possession. And she gets a really bad fever where she's very, very sick, having a lot of issues. And you know, these fevers involved trance states. And she's in and out of consciousness and for a couple hours she resumes her original consciousness and Remembers who she is and is like, oh, what's going on? Like, she didn't remember being possessed and like seeing through this, you know, demon's eyes, she's just been turned off, essentially, which is kind of freaky. I don't know that. I don't know how freaky that is to deal with. Probably like a coma vibe.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Damn.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Like in the back seat, huh?

[Seth Kickliter]

No, literally backseat vibe. And so she returns for only a few hours her entire life and is claiming to be who she was and is wondering what's going on. And what I think is going on is the demon just didn't want to deal with being sick. They're like, this is shitty. I'm gonna let her deal with this and I'll come back later. And that's what. That's exactly what. That's exactly what happened. Because it came back and now she was gone forever again until she died. So.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Wow.

[Seth Kickliter]

She was. Persisted in her. The body. She was there. Who knows what her experience was if she's just turned off or if it's some astral experience or coma. I don't know. But it's a little freaky. She didn't remember.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah, much.

[Seth Kickliter]

So that's pretty disconcerting. And why is this allowed to happen? Why are the Ascended masters allowing this? This doesn't make any sense. That's a great question. Yeah, they were good guys. Where are these? But they're creating lore to add to the whole, oh, ghosts are around the plane. They're the ones possessing. So now whenever you see a possession happen, you think, oh, this is. This is just a ghost of a spirit. This is not a demon. It's. It's literally rebranding that thing and it's applying to the old Carl Wicklin lore where you're like, oh, no, these possessions are from. These false past life memories are actually from these spirits. And you're like, oh, it all makes sense because it's combining with that lore. It diverges in other ways, but it's combining and. And kind of planting that seed of like, no, this is legitimate. So there's one more, and this is slight. Just slightly longer. And I'm gonna go off memory here. There is the story. And this is one of the most documented cases of possession ever, maybe ever. It has over 100 signed affidavits from doctors, from therapists, from people who witness this whole thing. It's a crazy story. It's in the book the Wat Second Wonder, which came out in the late 1800s, I think, and it was a Story of a bunch of Marys here. There's Mary Loranci Venom and I'm calling her Loranci Loranci and Mary Roth. And Mary Roth is 18 and she belongs to this spiritualist medium family who does a lot of occult stuff. Right. And she's 18. And then there's Mary Loranci which is two years old about. And she belongs to a Methodist family, not super devout as we'll find out, but they are neighbors, right? And Mary Roth, the 18 year old, is dealing with a lot of spiritual warfare of some kind. And she's having suicidal ideology and a lot of like self harm and dealing with a lot of things. And keep in mind her parents are occultists, you know, they're pretty freaky dudes. She ends up killing herself is what's insinuated from the autopsy, which is insinuated. It's not directly stated, but she died in some violent way, self inflicted, it seems. So 12 years pass after this horrific death and Mary Loranci is now 14 years old and they're the neighbor and she starts, she had a normal childhood and now all of a sudden whoever, whoever knows what, you know, activated this and opened her up. But she starts dealing with crazy spiritual warfare and getting harassed and she starts getting trance states, visions of angels in heaven, the real heaven probably, and she starts communing with dead spirits and hearing voices in her head. A lot of spiritual warfare, schizophrenic type stuff. Right, right. So she's not like possessed or anything yet it seems, but she's dealing with the spiritual warfare that's getting really dramatic and, and she's probably going in and out of this possession with this entity, it seems. And then she goes, and she's not claiming to be another person yet, but she ends up, her parents are like doing bloodletting on her and all these other crazy things that are very. Not, not helping her at all.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Do you mean like leeching or something like that? Blood.

[Seth Kickliter]

It's called bloodletting.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

It's like cuts. Right. Like they're actually draining blood.

[Seth Kickliter]

I think they're just draining blood.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Right, that's what, what ethnicity is she again?

[Seth Kickliter]

I'm pretty sure she's a honky.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Oh no. Well, he's a vast variety of honkies.

[Seth Kickliter]

Her name's Mary and she's in America. So you said she's like Wisconsin or something?

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Roth something.

[Seth Kickliter]

Mary. No, Roth is the one who killed herself. That was 18. Laurancy Venom is the one who grew up to be 14. This is 12 years after the Death.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Death, okay.

[Seth Kickliter]

Of that girl. So this 14 year old now, the Ranci, is now getting all the spiritual warfare visions of heaven and angels and all these spiritual encounters. And then she goes, her parents get desperate and they go visit the Roth family with the dead daughter.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Okay.

[Seth Kickliter]

Who are mediums. And they're like, we'll help you.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Oh.

[Seth Kickliter]

And then they talk to the medium parents and then all of a sudden she's claiming to be the dead daughter. Exactly 12 years later. He's been roaming the earth for 12 years. And now all of a sudden after visiting them, she's. They're like, oh, this is a great opportunity to create a story right here. So they create the story that this is Mary Roth taking over the body of Mary Benham in the 14 year old body. And she's like, I miss you guys, even though I killed myself. And it might have been related to stuff I had with you, who knows? But it's weird.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

And they are all, you know, this is dramatic. And the Raw family is like, well, we want you to come live with us. You're our daughter.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Right.

[Seth Kickliter]

And now you would think the Venom family would have a problem with this. And they probably do for a bit, but eventually they concede and they allow her to move in.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Well, look, if your daughter. For how many do you know?

[Seth Kickliter]

This is about two weeks into it.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

I.

[Seth Kickliter]

Around two weeks is when they visited is when she moved in after two weeks of being.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

That's so crazy. That's not long enough to be acting weird.

[Seth Kickliter]

Well, she lived with them for three months.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Oh, before they were like.

[Seth Kickliter]

No, after. After this, they, she lived with her, her old family. The, the Mary Roth moved in with Mary Lorenzi, possessed by Roth, moved in with the Raw family, her original parents, and lived with them for three months. And this is highly documented.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Okay.

[Seth Kickliter]

Majorly. And then after three months, her. She was healing. So her. All her, like spiritual warfare disappeared whenever she was possessed, obviously, because they got what they wanted. They probably did some deal with her and some actual experience or something like, hey, if you let us take over, we'll leave you alone. And I'm. I'm assuming that's what happened. I don't know that for sure, obviously, but it makes sense that she's being spiritually harassed and then spiritual harassment stops. Right. As she's claiming to be a new person. So she. So I think. And it. You need to consent to allow this to happen.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

And it's just enough to get like, like, look at this story is still going around. Like, this is very similar to the DMT realm. Evangelization kind of a thing. Like, if you're not going to evangelize, if you're not going to go out and spread the information, you're going to get booted from the DMT realm. She went out and she spread this information, right?

[Seth Kickliter]

Oh, it's becoming. It became highly documented and highly well known and authored and everything.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

So then job done.

[Seth Kickliter]

It, it creates a story, it validates. Oh, possession's not demons. It's these guys. It's just ghosts that are not reincarnated and they're wandering the earth plane at all. But it's just, it's just crazy because. So she lives with them for three months and then she goes, she's a model citizen. She's not like some feral rapist or nothing. She's doing a good job, she's doing chores, she's helping out the family, she's being nice to everybody and to create this idea that, no, we're not all evil, we're not demons. How could a demon do this? They're being a model citizen while they're there. And then they go. So after three months, instead of staying there and growing up and being with his family, like, why did she. She obviously wanted to do changes her mind and goes, all right, guys, it's my time to move on to the spirit realm. I did my work here. I healed up Mary Loranci, I healed her body because now she's not dealing with spiritual warfare.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Well, this is a little bit of the contention that we actually had with Alberino because he said that, like, the alien situation doesn't show anything we have

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

made up with whom.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Whoms do we love?

[Seth Kickliter]

Love you to me.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

We love him. And there's no problems here at all.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

I can't do this anymore.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

We got so many cameras. I don't know which one's which. But he, he says, well, a demon

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[Seth Kickliter]

Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Act the way that an alien does. Therefore, an alien is not a.

[Seth Kickliter]

They're playing different characters at different times.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Well, that's the thing is, is they

[Seth Kickliter]

cater to their character.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

It seems in his mind there's no room for a demonic entity that is actually deceptive and intelligent. It's all gnashing of teeth and claws and rising.

[Seth Kickliter]

Well, that's why he says meat suit theory can't happen because he says, because grays are so calm and calculated.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yes.

[Seth Kickliter]

And I'm like, well, what do you think it requires to do? Hours and hours and hours of channeled work through all these sources over many years getting full books of documented channel information. You have to keep a coherent calm behavior and be play a character for many, many, many hours.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

I do believe he's coming.

[Seth Kickliter]

Astral experiences which I say are calculated and controlled by these entities. To do that you have to be calculated and be smart and intelligent with your move. And they're ancient beings and they're part of a hive bind I think is very clear when you look into the data. So if they're all of these things they are playing, they're puffing up their chest in these exorcisms to make it seem like they're feral monsters in the Christian exercises.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

So they can give a caricature of who they really are. So they don't seem that calculated and nefarious because they want themselves to look dumber and more feral. And if they. All they have to do to be a gray is just be really chill and not do much. And by the way, are they doing that all the time or just when they're in front of humans?

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

And I, I do wonder as well if you don't have a penis, you know, and you don't have all the biology pheromones that allows you to. To kind of act out these things.

[Seth Kickliter]

Be hard to rape without a penis.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Without a penis. Right. Not impossible.

[Seth Kickliter]

No, you can do it, but it's a lot harder. And with that, you know, little slimy weak bod, you know, you can not

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

going to be doing much writhing and gnashing of teeth either.

[Seth Kickliter]

Kind of what we were talking about

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

with Daniel and these prophets that might have been castrated. Like right there comes a certain personality with somebody who has had their nuts cut off.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Right.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

You're going to be a little bit more docile.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Exactly. So if you're in a biological mechanical suit that is a gray that has no sexual drive whatsoever, probably not going to be. Well, don't say that. It's not going to be very, you know, that's a, that's for a different type of entity, I think.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

I think chimp out is, is all right.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

It's a different shadow person.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

So thanks for stalling, guys.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

That's fine.

[Seth Kickliter]

So, yeah, I hope this is making sense so far.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Not at all, but go on.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah, that. But that last girl, you know, she, her after this whole three month experience, she leaves with some fanfare and is like, okay, guys, it's my time to move on. And now she's all healed up and then this girl, Mary Lorenci comes back and she's a normal life and she's never afflicted by spiritual warfare again, as we, as far as we know. Okay, so they're like, oh, see, this ghost helped her.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

So they're making it seem like a very positive thing.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

And by the way, if just once again from a, from a sneaky angle, like, that's a very simple fix to get people to run with your narrative is like, yo, what if we don't chimp out all the time?

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Time.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

What if like we act like everything's good and they did a good thing

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

by letting us very pro wrestling to assume that.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

But I think we possessed by Hulk Hogan.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

This is something that I've been talking about a lot. Like the idea of old America and then the boomer mindset of thinking it's going to be black and white all the time. And I don't mean black and white, but like a face and a heel.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Right.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

You know what I'm saying? Like, there's a lot more shades of

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

gray baby face in a heel.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

The boomer understands more readily the face and the heel, and there can't be anything in between, otherwise we're off screen.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

That's probably a great deal of why the spiritual realm inspires people to make works of art that just have that binary good guy versus bad guy. Or at least it did for generations. Right? It was like, this is the bad path, this is the, the right path. Now we get more of a gray

[Seth Kickliter]

in like now it's the fake good guys. And then the real bad guys, the anti hero.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

And it's, it's all actually very murky now, but it used to just be that binary. Yeah. And that worked really well when you then came back to reality and they served you up politics. And he goes, here's your binary, you know, and, you know, I wonder what

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

that means for us now that we're operating in that, that time frame where shit's messy. Well, you know, like the TV show the Boys is a superhero movie. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, it's depicting the superheroes as the bad guys in a sense. So I'm like, it's kind of flipped.

[Seth Kickliter]

Flipped.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

America's. The idea of whatever this is on its head because now it's right out in the open and the spiritual realm has been mimicking that for a while.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

And now we, we all see it. So what does that mean? Ah, like is the game done? Or what's like, what's the next.

[Seth Kickliter]

No, I think it's just more elaborate than ever. And there's a lot of reverse psychology embedded into all of our psyops. Now. They, they want you to. It's just like the astral that. Why do they give you these experiences? They want you to come to the conclusion on your own because it makes, it, makes it more of an imprint on the culture if you believe you came to these conclusions on your own. So we can't just give you propaganda. We have to give you intel releases through these sources. We have to give you false flags and then you have to recognize them as false flags and go, that's a false flag. It's like, yeah, they want you to believe that.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

I love it. It's so crazy because I'm watching.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

You gotta remember, yeah, it is red,

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

red river D and another dude we're talking about Tucker calling out Trump. And it's so multi layered because like,

[Seth Kickliter]

like we were saying asset. And he wants you to hear it. He wants you to go viral.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

I think that's highly likely.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

I was very comfortable calling Trump the Antichrist. And then Tucker says, I made a whole ch.

[Seth Kickliter]

My book about it. And now I'm like, it's more layered than that now for me. Well, and we'll talk about that more later because we are going to get to that.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Actually, can we say that he's in. He's of the spirit of Antichrist, you know what I mean?

[Seth Kickliter]

Well, he's not if he. I mean, he's at the very least the man of lawlessness. And I know that that is tied to the Antichrist. Directly, but there's no confirmation of that directly in the Bible, so it could. People think it's another name for the Antichrist, but it could be a separate entity. And he is the man of lawlessness, no doubt. Is he the Antichrist? I've said it for a while. It's in the bonus chapter of my book. I break down more evidence than anybody ever has. Compiling evidence. It's comparing him to the Antichrist, but as of late, I'm questioning it. Because now that Tucker's saying this and wanting to go viral for denying it, now, that is so intentional. So intentional, by the way. And everybody's saying, oh, the whole new assassination attempt was fake. And everybody knows it. Yeah. They want you to believe that.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

You need to be one step ahead of them. You are not figuring this out. It's called the Great Deception. Not the weak ass unimpressed.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

And that's why I think the modality is. You're not gonna. Or not the modality, but the way forward is you're not gonna do it. You're not gonna figure it out. Right. Everybody's. The nations are going to be deceived.

[Seth Kickliter]

Let me try, baby.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Well, can we, like. I think making fun of it is the. Is the way.

[Seth Kickliter]

Well, that's the only way. Yes. That's why I'm here.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

You don't.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

You don't seriously engage with the topic. You can do a little bit of that, but then before it's all done, before you come to the finish line, you think you figured it out, you stop and you go gay. That's what you do at the finish line, you go gay. And then you do a little dance, and then you walk away.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

You have to be in the position where you're never married to something, to your idea. You have firm convictions. But I'm. I'm able to go like. Like one day we go, trump is the Antichrist.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

And then I go, hey, you know, maybe not. Maybe we can pivot off of that. It's not some. It's not a hill that I'm gonna die on, but I'm constantly watching which way they're going because it's. It's indicative of which way we have to then move.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Indicative.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Indicative.

[Seth Kickliter]

I dedicated a whole chapter to confirming that he is. And I'm willing to accept that he's not now. He is leading the way. And he is the man of lawlessness, I believe. But it's complex. And there might be an alien savior who's the real guy, who's going to defeat Trump is kind of like the fake villain that they propped up. But he was the fake. But he was the fake hero for the whole great reset Klaus Schwab movement. Who was the fake villain.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

And then now it's like even another one. He's dressed like a multi layered.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Sometimes I do things so crazy.

[Seth Kickliter]

It's. It's. That's how elaborate this is, though. And people need to keep that in mind. And we're getting into the most elaborate reverse psychology psyops at the last, like, hour of material. And that's where it's going to play into the Antichrist stuff more, because there's a pattern that are implanted in these false memories, which we're not there yet. We got to go through some other stuff first. You know what I'm saying? A little bit.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

You know when I was taking a turd earlier and I said I was going to empty my bowels? I didn't finish. Well, I. I think I. I was like, yo, yo, in this turn, and I couldn't get it out. I was like, you know, I don't have time for this. I'm gonna get. I'm get in here now. It's just sitting in my, like, in that, like little. In that realm where it's right between one and the. The intestine. So it's dangerous territory, man. So I gotta let it out.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Well, you know, feel free. At any point, we could always cut it out. You could see the bathroom from here if you want to go.

[Seth Kickliter]

No, I'm just trying to make y' all laugh. I gotta control my bowels.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

All right, well, you can control your battles. I'm just saying there's a way forward.

[Seth Kickliter]

I'm a grown control.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Sometimes you gotta.

[Seth Kickliter]

All right, fine. No, this is important, bro. Let's. I'm flowing. I'm flowing. Okay, so we're moving on.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Keep going. I gotta grab my drink.

[Seth Kickliter]

But yeah, we're moving on to the regression material, which is where a lot of the reincarnation lore comes from. Yes, we covered the birthmark stuff. Might address that more later. But the regression stuff is where most of it comes from. And you have past life memories is a whole thing. And a lot of people can assume what's going on there. But we're going to talk about between life memories that come along with these. There are whole books. Dr. Michael Newton, Dolores Cannon, Helen Wambach, all have dedicated books collecting collectively thousands of testimonies of people going to regression, doing past life memories. But then they dedicate whole sections to between Life memories, which is your life review memories in the. At, in the higher realms. It's your conversation with conversations with councils who are dictating what you should do in your next incarnation. It's your life planning. It's where you meet with your or soul family, which is people that you incarnate with repeatedly. Because most people, I think everybody pretty much who gets these memories find out, oh, my dad, who I was incarnating with actually was my wife in a past life. And now we're living together in these next lives. It'll be like, like, it'll be a lot of incestuous stuff. So it'll be like in. In a past life you were my wife and now you're my dad in this life. Like, stuff like that hit the button often, often that you hear that stuff. Or you'll have couples. Thank you. And you'll have often people just. They're reincarnating with the same people over and over. And some people will be. Be killed by someone in a past life and the next life you have to kill them to balance your karma. And that's part of the plan. You planned it in advance. So it leaves little room for free will or for, you know, salvation or. Or what's redemption. There's like no redemption. It's balance. It's not.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

There's no demon. It's all very funny. Yeah, look, now let's tell him he's got to kill his wife. Well, she killed me, dude.

[Seth Kickliter]

So I gotta balance this cosmic, cosmic law. You got to do it. So people access these memories and there are thousands of these documented memories in these books from these characters which are getting cohesive, coherent storylines consistently. And people think, oh, statistical consistency. And with people not communicating about this to each other on a mass level, obviously that must mean it's objective reality. It totally isn't something that could be coordinated as a deception from the spirit realm itself. Which is what I'm saying, but I'm just. I'm just saying just because there's consistent cohesiveness and this adds to the whole Borg hive mind idea. Well, to do carry out the. These coherent, consistent false visions and lore they're presenting, they have to have some level of sharing knowledge with each other. And yeah, they diverge on details, but in an intentional, strategic way. It seems not in a, oh, we messed up. We gotta now create a whole new religion because of this. It's all intentional and controlled by one source, ultimately, is what I believe now. So they're getting all these soul family meetings and they're agreeing to these pre incarnation stuff and they're remembering all this and they're having intuitive downloads of knowledge alongside it and there's tons of. And so people go oh well this is so much evidence obviously. And I'm like no, it's all vision control. Just like SRT therapy, spirit releasement therapy and the Dan Duvall stuff from episode two. It is.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Oh, put some respect on his name. Mr. Dan Duvall. Mr. Duvall, whoms do we love?

[Seth Kickliter]

Very much so. I would never kill you, I promise.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

In the spirit realm, in a past life life.

[Seth Kickliter]

In Minecraft. That's the one.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

What is it? The spirit reintegration process. Never drink your bone marrow.

[Seth Kickliter]

I wonder if we are arch nemesis is in the pre ademic age too. Not that we are in this life. So anyway, anyway, so they have these intermission life memories. Thousands of people accessing these. All you have to do is have a therapist prompt it and be open to receiving it. Consent law. You know, it's the same pattern here. You. It shows you watching like a movie, your life review of your current life sometimes or a past life review or you can watch potential future events. You can pick a harder life and get a bigger reward karmic balance wise. Or you can pick an easy life, you know, be like some only fans model and then you get very little reward from it of course. Right. They allow you to pick. Now Dan Deval also by the way says the same thing about his predemic stuff. He says, he says the same thing. He says, oh you picked the hard life you want if you can handle it it and you get a bigger reward or vice versa. He says the same thing. Just like the new age stuff. So it's the same pattern and people remember these things now and these council,

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

you know, isn't it so psychotic that people are like weary of us?

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Oh yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

And then they're like little platform Dan Duvall.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

And it's just like he's.

[Seth Kickliter]

Man, he's got a. He's got some clean language for a. For a.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

That's the problem. Yeah, it's like you can say whatever you want, just don't say faggot.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

I was just watching Brandon Tatum that, that Nig Nog and he's Brandon.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Hey yum.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Hey.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Hey.

[Seth Kickliter]

Show some respect.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Who is he?

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[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Liberty.

[Seth Kickliter]

Liberty. Liberty. Liberty.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

He's. He's just a black dude that's like pro Israel. And he's on I Can have respect for that with Dave Smith. And he's saying. He's saying Netanyahu should have killed all those Palestinians.

[Commercial Announcer]

Oh, wow.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

He won't say darned. He's ever advocating for genocide, but wouldn't say the word damn.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

That's very bad.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Replace it with darn or something.

[Seth Kickliter]

And I'm just like. I'm watching this.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

I feel like I'm upside down.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Should kill all those darned Palestinians. Oh, yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Excuse my language, sir. Like, you just advocated for genocide.

[Seth Kickliter]

A polite genocide, a clean PG genocide.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Just don't curse.

[Seth Kickliter]

You know how I feel.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah. Up. That's a. That's one of those things.

[Seth Kickliter]

Anyways, y'. All. Y' all understand. I guess the whole intermission life, memory, you're. It's the consistent story between all of these.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

And there's a lot more details to get into and cross examine that show. Weird stuff. But you pick your parents, you pick your geographic location, you pick your challenges, opportunities, your death, your wiener size. I bet you pick all these things.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

So if you pick a real small wiener, you got a real, real tough

[Seth Kickliter]

life ahead of you.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

But you might be rich, spiritual rich or big riches in the next one. Maybe.

[Seth Kickliter]

Maybe very possible.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Or fat dick in the next one I. I've seen.

[Seth Kickliter]

I'm gonna choose medium deck every time because I get the rest of both worlds. I want to be balanced. I don't want to live all these lives out.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

It's like a penis roller coaster.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Amen, brother.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah. HH brother. Okay, so. But. But by the way, just to reiterate that spiritual intermission thing is where they're like going into reviewing and they're picking.

[Seth Kickliter]

And they're in a hypnotic trance state and accessing this as a full memory. They're getting downloaded into the them.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Okay.

[Seth Kickliter]

So.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

And I imagine they're saying this is what, like when you're. When you die. And people say like they saw their whole life, you know, in the.

[Seth Kickliter]

I think it's a very similar thing happening. Yeah. I'm not saying God can't give you a life review, but I don't think. I think that thematically is a task for the demonic side personally that I've seen. I could be wrong. I haven't looked into it enough. But I want to do this. A comparison to some other crazy.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

You're telling me that these people are choosing which location they're born in and it's consistently India.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

That's hilarious.

[Seth Kickliter]

That's where. Also the data doesn't make any sense.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

That's the biggest, like, confliction with this whole thing. I wake up every day. Yeah. And I thank God. Oh, my God. Yeah. Just any.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Anything but India.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

Well, they're, you know, they're having a lot of their. Their population growth is pretty rapid from compared to most places. So maybe it's just a numbers game. There's like, oh, well, it's the only option I got. And I'm used to it.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Maybe. I mean, I saw like tweets from the H1B1HB1B.

[Seth Kickliter]

Got it.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

H1B1 visa thing was happening and they were getting upset. Like, you know, this idea of getting deported and going back to India. And there were so many Indian accounts tweeting, like, if I go back to India, I will kill myself. Like, it's not. They don't like it. But why'd you incarnate there?

[Seth Kickliter]

It's your fault. You're always to blame because you chose it since. Damn.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Or maybe it's the penis size thing. Like if you pick small penis size, you have to go to India because that's where all the small things.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

I should let Seth keep reading because he's getting sad head.

[Seth Kickliter]

I'm not. I'm not getting sad. I'm getting. I'm getting impatient. It's different. Sorry. So I'm gonna compare. So keep all that intermission life memory stuff in mind as we go into this next topic. So this. We're going to talk about Elizabeth Carmen's Cosmic cradle book. Spiritual. Not the song. Spiritual Dimensions of life before death. Now, this is a book I read and it was hilarious. And we're. I actually Got to read some bonus goofy quotes in a minute from it because it's silly, but I'm going to start with saying it's a book of over 200 testimonies of mothers while pregnant or sometimes as they're having their, like in the early stages of that, while they're pregnant, they are getting spirit visitations from their future child. As a child. So I'm saying like they are getting visions via dreams, meditation visions or you know, the other, the usual suspects of these experiences. They're getting entity contacts from their future child while they're pregnant with them. And it's the spirit of the baby. Now the spirit of the baby shows up physically as like a three to six year old old. Sometimes it's a head inside of a bubble. Like a Pixar thing. Yeah. So yeah, but they show up and they show up usually as a three to six year old version of their future child. Right, okay. And they say things like really corny over like super cutesy language. They talk like a kid. They're giggling, they're like, mommy, pick me or I'm coming to, I'm coming to be with you, it's me. And they'll say stuff like that. Or it'll be a bunch of them in a, in a row and they'll be like, mommy, pick me. No, pick me. And they're like fighting over her to be their son or daughter.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

That's horrifying.

[Seth Kickliter]

No, it is. And it's supposed to be really cute and wholesome for the mother experiencing it, but it's a little creepy. And I'm sure they're only catering to this, to more of the corny variety of women who think that that's actually

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

a cute thing, especially the ones that are just visited. It serves no purpose.

[Seth Kickliter]

What purpose does it serve? Absolutely. Now what purpose would it serve as a demon masking as a spirit baby? Well, maybe to a consent farm to get you to agree to have spirit involvement with your future child. Because now when I read into the bonus goofy quotes, some of them are very insightful with the dialogue and language they use. And we'll get into that in a second. Second. But I just want to say, out of these thousands, thousands of collected data on intermission life memories, not one of them talks about regressing from their adult spiritness to a child spirit and then visiting their mother while they're in the womb. Why would they regress? If they are a full adult in their, or whatever age they were in their intermission life memory, why do they regress? To a child. Yeah, it's less creepy to than coming as an adult. But it's manipulative and weird to come as a child and then talk like a child and giggle and play and come with other children, be like, pick me. No, pick me.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

I didn't even know there was a phenomenon.

[Seth Kickliter]

It's no, it's a very underground one which has implications I think because you don't have one intermission life memory where they're accessing this. Oh yeah, I remember that one time I was a spirit baby. Now these children, when they grow up, the parent believes it and they're always occultists or always reincarnation researchers or something of that nature. They mention a lot of these where they're into the occult and they say that their child, when they're old enough, just like the past life memories will go, hey, I remember being a spirit baby and coming to visit you. I remember I have that memory now. Really? They're just fulfilling the prophecy they laid out and they're getting. They already have the consents and they're just downloading that memory that matches. But if you go to regression memory, you will never ever. I've never. I can't find one of someone experiencing this. It's only for the people who already gave. Got the mother to get that vision initially. So it's just, they're just.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

When did this like is this a modern day phenomenon or is this something old came out?

[Seth Kickliter]

I think in the 80s or 90s or maybe early 2000s. But it's Elizabeth Carmen's cosmic crater cradle and it has over 200 testimonies and a lot of them are more in the most.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

200.

[Seth Kickliter]

Over 200. In that one book. Just in the book? Yeah. No, like there's patterns of it. It's not the exact same every time, but it's very similar. Now I'm gonna read some bonus goofy quotes. I think if it's time did I say everything I needed to? We'll get into it in a minute. But here's just. I'm gonna read quite a few of them. But they're just so funny or at least insightful to what the deception might be going on here is. And they make me laugh. Okay, so they're just gonna be random quotes. Okay, so there's no cohesiveness here. One says no, wait, no, that's the wrong one. Hold on. Where am I? Sorry guys, give me a second. 194. Oh, I'm over one. Don't say anything. Okay, I'm gonna start with this one, which is not the bonus goofy quotes part. It's. It's this girl talking about. Yeah, I'm just gonna read it. She's. It's a girl saying. As a child, I knew that all the explanations of where I come from did not resonate with me.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Me.

[Seth Kickliter]

Although I had no words to explain where I came from, as a young adult, I even tried previous life regressions and got some hits. Even so, they were not my souls. Some were from my physical body, elementals, previous experiences. And others were experiences of those of people near me. But she gets a download of somebody else's memories. Now she says it's from her elemental body, physical body. And I'm like, well, your soul reincarnates, not your body. So what the hell are you talking about?

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

She's saying elementals. What does she mean here? Because it feels like everybody's got a different description.

[Seth Kickliter]

I have no idea what she's saying. I'm just putting it out there that she said she relived past life memories, but there were people near her or part of her body's elemental experience, whatever that means. I don't know what it means. All I know is she's saying they weren't mine and I had them.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Bodies, elemental experience. I wonder if that's some goofy. Like the atoms that make up my body made up somebody else's body.

[Seth Kickliter]

It's very possible. A lot of that. But that's in the book. And another one says, okay, so this one is a guy's testimony describing them having the ability to. Which apparently is the norm, to go out of body while developing as a fetus. For fun, they would travel to other planets in the astral. So as a fetus, instead of just sitting in your mom's belly. They're a mature enough soul. Unlike the spirit visitation, they're mature enough to know how to traverse the astral and go into other planets. And this is a literal quote. And just to know. To know how goofy this stuff is. It's this guy saying, I came and went as I pleased. I played anywhere I wanted. Lots of play time took place on Jupiter, the planet of growth. Growth and Saturn. The karmic teacher. That is where most of my lessons come from. That is where I hung out. I still do. Meaning he still goes into the astral to this day and travels to these other planets. Watch the Astral episode, Episode one if you want to know how goofy that stuff is. It's just a little weird what he's saying. It doesn't make any sense.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

It's also just once again, super inconsistent.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yes, absolutely. So it's just. You have to believe this if you want to believe reincarnation, guys. I'm just saying maybe not literally everybody.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

It seems as though you have to believe a lot of conflicting if you want to believe in reincarnation.

[Seth Kickliter]

And it's all coming from spirit derived information or from personal recovered memories which are, you know, we now know can be other people's memories, if not fabricated downloads, which they've admitted to so many times. And we'll get into more, but I want to read the bonus goofy quotes now from that book. Okay. There's a bunch of them. Well, they're not all goofy. Some of them are just interesting. One says rebirth planning was like watching a thriller movie. So it's again going to the whole. They're getting a whole visual experience just reminding you and it's very exciting and they can play with you.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Specifically, rebirth planning, as in like in

[Seth Kickliter]

the memory they're reliving. They're watching a screen or they're reliving it as an experience while they're. It's. It's a whole immersive experience. Like the. It's a remote viewing type vision, I believe, where they're downloading. This one says between his second past life and his current life, Thundercloud. Incarnated in animal bodies, he became transformed into a fish. Again, inconsistency with the ancient eastern religious teachings.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Thundercloud.

[Seth Kickliter]

Well, he's, you know, I guess it's one of the. A tribe member of sorts. This one's fun. The woman concluded, the spirit child, seeking a mother, paddled. Paddled a spirit canoe upriver. The spirit child saw me and entered my womb. That's why I'm pregnant. An elder narrating added, white people have a different way these things happen to black people.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

That's so funny.

[Seth Kickliter]

I was gonna get a bit.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

They love to. To rope black people into the.

[Seth Kickliter]

It's messed up. It's giving black people a weird name.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Well, you know, because they. They love like that kind of. I think when you. When you strip. If he's talking about black people, right? Like actual black people, it's in.

[Seth Kickliter]

In Africa, I believe.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Okay. All right. Because what happens is when you strip. Strip the entire world of their history, black people do a fun thing where they'll just. They're like it. Let's make some up, dog.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

They started to take all of it.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah, I love it.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

They go like, we was pharaohs in Egypt. But then they also go, we was the Jews. So they go like we imprisoned us and then we freed ourselves from us. Like it's crazy.

[Seth Kickliter]

That they all believe all those simultaneously is crazy.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

It's just like reincarnation. They gotta believe a bunch of wild all at once.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah, it's, it's, it's a silly time.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

I think the Hoteps do get down with reincarnation.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Of course they do, because it doesn't. You know, I think when your theology stops making sense, you got to just start grabbing anything that says, anything that supports a little bit of what you believe.

[Seth Kickliter]

You go, yeah, you're more likely to just change your mind about small things here and there. Then they go, oh, wait, it's all line of deception. It's, it's much more likely because people are stupid and lazy.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

I do love that one though, because they do the ankh thing. They're like, we was pharaohs. But then you have the Hebrew Israelites are like we was Jews. And then you go like, we captured us and made us slaves to serve us.

[Seth Kickliter]

What?

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Not far off.

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[Seth Kickliter]

Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

I wouldn't be surprised if it's all true.

[Seth Kickliter]

Very possible. This one's very interesting. Okay, so this says meditation was part of Elsa's daily routine for spiritual growth. On a meditation retreat with thousands of people, unexpected thoughts came up during meditation. And these are the. These are the words. Have another baby. Have another baby. Have another baby. Elsa thought, no, I have enough children. You're such a good mother. Have another baby. Have one of Us. What a good mother you would make.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

We.

[Seth Kickliter]

We want for you to be a mother. Come on, have a baby. Have one of us. And it's multiple of them showing up in a spirit vision. Multiple babies showing up. And they're saying, please, please take one of us. And she has to go. Okay, yeah. So after five days of this happening every day, the souls began to fade out and said, all right, we're going away. You can't have us.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

And she goes, I thought, oh, no, come back. I will have one. That was a great sales technique. That's a quote. I swear to God. It's literally them consent harvesting via visitation in a meditation, like telepathic. Yeah.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

You're consenting to one of these spirits, basically possessing this. This child.

[Seth Kickliter]

And I'm not saying that is going to give full permission to possess the child who had no say in it, but it is giving permission for them to start infiltrating because you're not protecting

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

the sins of our fathers and generation when they.

[Seth Kickliter]

That's absolutely what's at play here.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, you. You know that bond, that debt can be broken and paid in your own life.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yes. But it can. When you're young and you're kind of a system or a product of your environment. This is your environment now.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

You're pretty well introduced to Christ.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah, exactly. So everybody can fix that in their own lives. But if you're getting a bad start with a dumb mom, then you're having a hard time. I'm sorry. Yeah. So, yeah, that's. That's a weird quote. This one's just straight up, makes no sense. I've never heard anything like. Like this. A Vietnamese man who refused to drink the spiritual soup of amnesia in the before birth world surreptitiously slipped it to his dog instead. They're saying, no, they're saying a Vietnamese man was in the spirit realm but about to incarnate. And instead of taking the soup of amnesia to cause him to forget who he was, he's like, no, I'm gonna. I'm gonna trick these spirits and give it to my dog, who's with me. My dog's with me. And he gives it to his dog. To his dog.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

You fed your dog your spiritual soup

[Seth Kickliter]

and he avoided it, so he remembers who he was. Now, that is one of the craziest sentences I've ever read, and I've never heard anybody say anything like that. But it's just. That's what coming out of these recovered memories too, is stuff like that. They're remembering. Oh, I avoided. And that's how I remember who I am.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Pretty sure PETA would not approve of feeding your dog your spiritual soup, dude.

[Seth Kickliter]

Spiritual soup. I got to use that. That's a good little band name or something. But that's a crazy one. These are just silly to me. I have the most memory of lives when I practice mysticism or a healing art. What are the odds?

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Open myself up to all sorts of deceptive spirits. That's what I have the most. Memories, stories.

[Seth Kickliter]

This one's crazy. I made a penny royal tea to abort the baby. Don't do that. As I was about to drink the tea, a loud, raging voice said, no, I spilled the tea. The voice explained, I am coming to the planet. You are the vehicle. I must come through. I said, okay, I'll be the vehicle for you.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

That's crazy.

[Seth Kickliter]

But that's consent harvesting.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

That's it.

[Seth Kickliter]

Work.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

What's what? Rosemary's baby.

[Seth Kickliter]

Oh, true, dad.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

You know what I'm saying, right? Like that. That.

[Seth Kickliter]

That's what a true story that is.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah, I mean, you know that's what I'm saying. Like, that idea of reincarnation, I think is based off of something that's true, but it's not for human beings.

[Seth Kickliter]

It's true for demons incarnating in everybody.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Incarnate. Incarnate. They can do it again, you know, But. But that's not for us.

[Seth Kickliter]

No, no, not at all. So, yeah, the. I got a. I got a couple more notes long. And then one is. Oh, this one's just silly. They suited him. They suited him because they were clean. Kept their camp swept up and sent their women a long way off to men's straight. When are we gonna start doing that? Dude, go.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Main street over there. Go.

[Seth Kickliter]

Come back in four days straight over there. Yeah, and then just. We'll just have dudes night for like a couple days because they'll be all synced up if they do that, right? So.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

The river. Go bleed in the river.

[Seth Kickliter]

Last one. This one's silly. He was a crazy drunk when I met him. Dave date raped me when I was 14. I didn't want to be with him, except he enticed me with cigarettes and money I was born with. I was. I was born with an addiction because my mother had smoked two packs per day during my womb time. Besides, smoking was cool. Everyone was doing it. What? That's a real quote in a book, bro. I swear on my life.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Come on, go. Go. Bleed over there.

[Seth Kickliter]

Go. That's why I put those Two together. So you would have a pattern there.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yes.

[Seth Kickliter]

So yeah, that's just, that's just. That's just the books that we're getting this reincarnation lore from is stuff like this. Keep in mind how ridiculous it is. And you kind of have. If any of these, if one singular of these is a deceptive spirit creating fake mythology and lore, what does that say about the rest of it? With what we know about their abilities since you know, cemented in episode one and two. Just keep. There's a cohesive pattern going on I believe guys. And we're gonna move on if that's cool to. This is some really crazy stuff that is even more ridiculous. It's a book called Mass Dreams of the Future. Pretty underground as well. I'm the only one finding these goofy ass books apparently and bringing them out to the forefront. Mass Dreams of the Future was written by Chet B. Snow in conjunction with a more famous hypnoaggressionist, Helen Wambach. It came out in 89. It was about taking. They did 2500. That number comes up again. 2500 past life memory sessions with people. And they got got. They're taking data from about 350 of those I believe. So what this book is about is. It's about them doing past life regression. And then at the end of it they're like okay, now we're going to try something crazier. Not even the in between life stuff with which is basic. Now everybody's doing it. Let's do something different. What's gonna. We're gonna access the future guys. And they go to the future and say. They just prompt them. That's all it is. It's in the same state. Did a past life regression. Okay, now we're gonna end it. Find a life in the future year. In the year. They use the years 2100 and 2300 and a few after that. But they asked them to locate a life in those years. Right. So they did this with 300. They did this with 2500 people. But they only got about 350 who actually could access these. Now why is that we're gonna get into that. So what happens is in the year 2100 they get about 5.5% of the 2500 finding a future life. Not everybody, everybody gets past life memory. But only a few get these Future.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

I said 5%, 5.5%. So very few.

[Seth Kickliter]

300, 200 years after that there is 11 on average of people accessing these future lives. Now what does that look like to you, it's spelling out the idea that there is obviously between now and 2100, some major cataclysm, some major world depopulation event where now. Where now the population numbers are 5% of what they were. And then within 200 years, boom, you just more than doubled it. So that's a steady incline showing right there.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

That's a clever, clever exception.

[Seth Kickliter]

Statistical consistency.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Well, you know, because it goes in alignment with everything that comes from the alien abductee experience where they tell you

[Seth Kickliter]

pole shifts, which they talk about in the book, or if it's not a

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

pole shift, it's a nuclear war. But yeah, a giant.

[Seth Kickliter]

It's bug famous one. Well, sort of. Now for starters, I want to say the guy who wrote it, Chet Be Snow, did a future life regression not of a future life, but of his current life in the future. Future of year 2000. He did this in 85, so 15 years into the future. And in year 2000, apparently there was already a mass nuclear war.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

And there was. And there was a major like blackout, black out of the grid and he's having to commute, like get resources together and help people. He's a spiritual leader who does teaches people telepathic communication.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

He's special.

[Seth Kickliter]

He's telepathically communicating with aliens to get resources and get trade.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

So that's exactly what happens. Right, the alien abduction thing. You're special. You have to go out and evangelize. There's a calamity coming. And by the wet dream baby, since it started happening, like the, the recorded history of the abductee phenomenon, none of the predicted dates have ever come to pass.

[Seth Kickliter]

No.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

And then they predict all types of was going to happen by this point in the 90s, but that was a different timeline.

[Seth Kickliter]

That's why.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Huh. Well, there's always that. Yeah, that's a great. Everything is true.

[Seth Kickliter]

So anyway, so he does his own. And this is the first chapter of the book and he's just describing it in detail and he, he talks about, about how he's helping a community get survivors together to telepathically communicate with aliens and get resources and, and connect with other countries and use like their telepathic abilities like radios. And he's like a huge deal. And he dies when he gets some sickness and he remembers his whole death experience and it's all vivid and it's super vivid. He's reliving it feels powerful. He's getting a download of information with it and he gets a whole story. And I'm not going to tell every detail. But he was wrong as hell. He was way the hell off. And that was in year 2000. That was supposed to come to pass and it didn't, didn't. And he looks like a jackass now. He collects all this data from 350 cases about of these future life regressions. And there is a consistent storyline. Just like how everything else in regression is consistent internally. Maybe not compared with others, but mostly internally it's consistent now he's accessing 2100 and 2300 as the years for most of it. And the consistent storyline is that there was four communities that people are living in. I believe I'm gonna just read so I don't forget, forget 32 of these people are in high tech domed cities like the Simpsons movie or underground or underground bunker type cities. And they're like AI B system vibe. Like they're not fun. People are eating mush, like, like printed mush.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

And there it's, it's, it's, you know, what we're going into in a sense. But that might be the fake system that they're propping up, I don't know, to be defeated by the truth, Christ, who knows. But anyway, they're giving that idea of like this is what's happening and it's in 100 years, years from, from that time. And 20, no 13 of people are in orbiting space stations or off world colonies and other planets, SSP type stuff. And they're working with aliens, all sorts of aliens for trade. And then there is the 28 are in primitive, primitive isolated survivor communities, you know, like small cowboy towns with very little technology. Maybe a little bit. They scavenge, but mostly not. And the dome cities are in areas where there was hot nuclear radioactivity, which is why they're domed. And people die if they go out and their suit gets messed with. So a lot of people die from that. But not everywhere on earth is like that. But the dome cities are in concentrated areas where I guess there's high population centers. And I guess the aliens must have just dropped off a dome for them because how else did they build that after this infrastructure did that in this community where it's already radioactive to death? I don't understand. So it must have been the aliens helping us with the dome because otherwise how do you explain that?

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[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

all have sex with each other.

[Seth Kickliter]

And they all have sex with each other. And they're very wholesome community having sex with each other, of course. And they're all very happy. And this is the only happy community. Everybody else is very sad. They're farming, they're doing yoga, they're channeling spirits. I bet that. And they're also in constant communication with aliens telepathically for resources. Now this is 350 people giving cohesive testimony that is aligning with each other. So it must be true because there's a statistical consistency and with the population growth after a major cataclysm, which is what they talk about must have happened. This is a lot of data that they're getting from a lot of resources. Now here's where it gets weirder. There is 200, there's 2, 500 people. They can't give them all to everybody because that wouldn't show a great population decline. They have to be sparingly.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

You mean the visions?

[Seth Kickliter]

Yes. I think demons are strategically giving them a specific number so that they can seem like, oh, this is validated. Because if everybody had one or most people had one that doesn't show a population decline which we need to implement to make this whole dome city thing make sense. Make the whole, oh, aliens are here to help us make sense. They have to make it seem like we had a big die off. Which by the way, the pole shift stuff is pushing this book pretty heavy as a potential explanation. And that's what's, you know, pushed in the mainstream now is like a very, very large. Oh, this is cyclical cataclysm. We do this every 6,000 years.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah, Elon's been talking about it on whatever podcast he's been on.

[Seth Kickliter]

But if you're having these experiences, you

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

know, of course you're gonna go the alien salvation route is the most based because everybody else looks like they're having a bad time.

[Seth Kickliter]

Exactly. So. So the spiritual new age communities, like, they, they even say that they die when they want to and there's like, well, I lived out my full karmic balance and now I'm ready to get off this. They don't even call it like a prison planet. It's more new age where they're like, positive about about it, but they're like, it's time, my time. I send to the other dimensions of realms. And they just like, I'm gonna die now. And they go kill themselves through meditation, which people have done in real life. But I think that's just a sort of. That's a weird conversation to have. It's in my book, by the book. So, yeah, I want to read some bonus goofy quotes there because they're just so fun. This is even dumber than the last one, I promise. And this is all in that book,

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

by the way, as you're talking about this. I was looking up this idea of like reincarnation because now knowing that so much of it is based off of entirely inconsistent and really wonky. Goofy. Yeah, I looked over to see the Monroe Institute's thoughts on it because I've been. I've been trying to have this episode of we're going to do something in the future where I want to dive into the Monroe Institute in a big way because there's a lot of really weird there. And as soon as I look into it, like, yeah, they're huge on past life regression, reincarnation, near death experiences. And you know, we have. This is a friend of ours, Jordan Crowder, who was on the show once and unblocked me. Jordan. We've since gone our separate ways, but he's kind of like a spokesman for them. And he hates Christianity. He thinks it's entirely fear based. And then I look over and he's supporting an organization that as far as I'm concerned is using Hemi Sync binaural beats same, you know, technology that's behind the CE5 app. And they are toting about ideas of reincarnation. And we're having this discussion now and I'm Kind of starkly struck with how that is.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah. Well, that's the Harry Potter School for wizards. Yeah. There's rumors, according to MKUltra whistleblowers, that they have a lot of hands in the pot in that circle of DePro or. Or programming and certain aspects that I don't know all the details.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

There's so many people that are. Are doing great work on it. I don't know exactly who to. I was looking at Gray area Mono arc. He's doing fantastic work on it. Fringe was also doing fantastic work on it. So there's a couple people in our space that I'd love to talk to on. I'm just right now kind of putting the feelers out there, see who I want to pick, because, you know, it's like everybody's got a different piece of the puzzle.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

And if you have one person, maybe an interesting idea would have both of them on. But I do think they deviate pretty significantly on the spiritual aspect of things. Gray is much more looking at the nuts and bolts, MK Ultra kind of angle, whereas Fringe is kind of blowing the whistle on the spiritual entities angle.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah. I tend to align with friends more on that. But Gray, he knows the stuff and he's done a lot of work and he's a. He's a badass. And I've been telling him to watch my interviews. He said he would, so let's see if he does. I'm trying to have this. This planted memory thing is not just reincarnation. It's ssp. It's Water Kingdom.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

It's.

[Seth Kickliter]

It's the water space. Well, that's much less common. That's much less common. It's like mermaid memories where they're mermaids and. No, we're going to talk about it near the end. That's important.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

We have all the chicks that are saying that are fat women.

[Seth Kickliter]

Actually, now that I think about it, I. That's not untrue.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Fat women love mermaid.

[Seth Kickliter]

I'm not going to say morbid, but I'm gonna say something.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

No, they're out there.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah, some of them could be. Yeah. Yeah, they love that. Anyway, so before I get into the bonus goofy quotes, I almost forgot an important part of the Mass Dreams of the Future book. Whenever they couldn't. So they wanted to put data into this thing. So they only have. They have to give it to a percentage of people, like I said, to make it seem like a, you know, decline in population than incline. So they couldn't give it to everybody. Everybody. But they wanted to get more data in it. The demons, I'm saying, so what they did is they allowed people to see if they couldn't find their own future life. They would say, okay, we'll try to see through somebody else's eyes and see their memories that aren't your own. And not every time, but a lot of the times they would get a hit and they would know it's not them because they get an instant knowing and they would say, oh, this is somebody else, but I'm seeing through their eyes. And then they would get data that way. And the data was consistent through all these. And that's just a way of demons going, okay, well we need to get more data fed into the system system. And with the low population numbers, it's kind of hard. And so we have to feed as much into it to create this story. And if you want to get more of the idea of the story in the book, I'm going to just be really random with these goofy quotes. But these are things the book talks about. If you hear any things that sound like deceptive concepts and names you've heard in the past, you're not crazy. They you, you might be onto something there. So one of them says nearly 60 of those participating in her research wombax, because she did the other half of the other half of this. Her research workshops reported that they had been ahead of her questions while in the light trans state, like ahead of her questions, they knew what she was like.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Okay.

[Seth Kickliter]

Their visions forming in advance. It soon became obvious that once in the dreaming mind, as she called it, many people could bypass the linear aspects of time and memory. This would seem to. Oh no, that was the end of it. So that's saying, okay, before she prompts the question, their vision's already forming now. How would they be able to do this? Well, if demons are able to read your minds and get ahead of of it, they can make it seem precognitive in a sense, just by getting ahead of it a few seconds.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Right.

[Seth Kickliter]

Which is all it was, was a few seconds. Another thing is, most of these get togethers seem to have been positive occasions, with the aliens providing advanced technical knowledge or spiritual wisdom. One report from 2100 A.D. mentioned that mentioned contact with humanoids from a planet in the Pleiades star system. Oh, never heard that one. Somehow the Christ had become the twin soul of the planet Earth. What the hell is that saying? I don't know.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Shout out to Pleiadians, though.

[Seth Kickliter]

That's right. Right. In deeper levels of trance, the subject even Takes on the emotional reactions of his alter ego to such an extent. That doesn't sound like possession at all. A routine of regular daily meditation, renewing contact with one's immortal soul. And spiritual guides, practicing tolerance.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Gay tolerance.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah. What does this sound like to you? Yeah, anyone can discover they're a star person. Exclamation point. Okay, that's. That's nice.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Star sign seed.

[Seth Kickliter]

There you go. Well, yeah. Yeah, same thing. 51 reported using some kind of universal credit system based on one signature or handprint instead of money. That doesn't sound like the Mark of the Beast at all.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Right.

[Seth Kickliter]

A little weird. Pre program.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

That's actually the first time I've heard that. That's interesting.

[Seth Kickliter]

Interesting, right. Yeah, no, that and this is from the 80s, man. And another. Another. A man living on a space colony named Gaylord.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Was his name Gaylord Gaylord in real life, or was his name Gaylord in the fake life? In the fake life, yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

In the fake. The future. Oh, it's a future name. It's much more respectable in the future. They're like. Well, they're more tolerant. They're more tolerant, so. That's not funny.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Demons are funny.

[Seth Kickliter]

They are. Thank yous are very funny.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

When Jerry Seinfeld dies, he's gonna be a demon. That's so crazy, bro.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

What's the deal with astro travel?

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Oh, my God.

[Seth Kickliter]

That was a good voice that was on. Okay, you gotta use that later. Okay, here's another one, Walk Ins, which is. In a Christian view. This is a possessed demon. Demon Walk Ins are by no means limited to extraterrestrial spirits. They have voluntarily taken over adult human bodies with the full consent of their former soul inhabitants to help humanity make a crucial transition. They're just here to help the. Another one.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Funny how they need consent.

[Seth Kickliter]

It's. It's almost like there's a universal law around it. Who created that? That's a weird law. The youngest reported dying as a young man at age 25 in a fiery crash between two spaceships off of the planet Xenon in 232340 A.D. xenon, baby. Who named it that? Was that us or was that their planet people?

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

That's a name.

[Seth Kickliter]

Stupid name. Right?

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Sounds like something from Scientology. It's so dumb.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah. Okay. A UFO experience can be both physical and psychic. It can also be deliberately educational. That first part was true. The second part, I don't know about. That sounds propagandish.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

A UFO experience could be deliberately educational. Educational, okay. Yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

They're just trying to teach us how to use lies. Yeah, yeah. Well, or. Or cosmology. That's true. And they got to put little plugs in our butts to make sure we get it. The place voice. Of course. Because cemented our. Yeah, exactly. But then they wipe our memory. It's a weird thing. So. Unable to detect any visual visible, secondary sex characteristics such as boobs. He reported that he felt his body was essentially androgynous. Gender didn't seem to matter very much. Now I said boobs, but it really says breasts. But I just wanted to make it a better word. It was a better word.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Wbs. Yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

But he said he kept it professional.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

So that's interesting because you have those themes of transhumanism. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

Normalize. It's just normalizing that there's a lot of inter. Like no sex bodies in this future life.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

That's a lot of what Rogan says when he gets really high and he's like, yeah, man, I don't know. I just feel like Grays might be us in the future when like that's

[Seth Kickliter]

our timeline where they're gonna push big

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

and we don't have, you know, use for sexual organs anymore. And I'm like, that's.

[Seth Kickliter]

He's saying their exact propaganda. I. I think it's like it could be a timeline where the Grays are us from the bad future that we gotta avoid and the good features us as the sex. Sexy, handsome, Nordics, Pleiadians.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Okay.

[Seth Kickliter]

And if. If we grab it, we listen to them. Yeah, no, they're not gonna like that. If now if we do what they say, we're going to be on the good timeline. We're gonna be handsome. Otherwise we're gonna have no genitals and have to eat through absorbing in our skin like the Grays or something. I think that's what they're pushing because that's what they're pre programming with this dead scientist, which is real. They're really dying. But why they're letting it get into.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Are they really dying though? Because it's like something.

[Seth Kickliter]

It might be, it seems but it's

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

been like since 2022. No.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah. But why is it blowing up in the mainstream information realm? Because they want us to look into. Well, what were they working on? Xenon. Was it time travel tech? Was it metaphysical zero point technology? Is this coming out right before alien disclosure? That's interesting. Which. Oh, I hope we could talk about that a little bit later.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Xenon. Yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

Right. A couple more. This is. This is stupid. Yeah. Many reports from Coming from individuals contacted by a group loosely known as the Space Brothers or the Ashtar Command. They haven't used Astar Command in a while. Played out as like the dumbest deception ever.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Space Brothers.

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[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

There's a movie about that from the 90s, right? What was it called? See if I could find it. Go on.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah, idea. Let's do. UFO connections have been received psychically by several hundred different individuals over the past four decades. Using names like Astar, Manka or Hatan, purposely purportedly the galaxy's record keeper and referring to the same intergalactic hierarchical organization said to be headed by no less than Jesus himself, also called Sananda by these sources. Oh, so Jesus got a new name. Let's call him by that new name and pray to him a little stranger. Strange, but he leads this organization. That's nice. So in an advanced guard of this group known as Light Workers is currently being prepared by UFO and other spiritual contacts. They will assist Ashtar and his intergalactic fleet in by shepherding those still unawakened but spiritually developed individuals.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Wait, I thought Ashtar was a group or at you say Ashtar.

[Seth Kickliter]

Ashtar. Ashtar and his intergalactic fleet.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

The Space Brothers.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah, we're talking about the same thing all right. Yeah, well there I got most of that. Jan found her present day grown daughter will become her spouse in 2300 AD. That's disgusting. Jan, do not marry your daughter. Another high tech subject compared his future life to that of a conscious intelligent machine. Seemingly androgynous. Even his name, Synchrotron 2 was mechanical sounding.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Synchrotron? Sounds like a transformer.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah, no, this is.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

What's the name of their planet? It's like it's something Tron like. Yeah, yeah, I forget what the hell it is. But their. Their. Their planet's Name ends in Tron.

[Seth Kickliter]

That's very well, that, that's how you know it's, it's legit. So it has been scientifically proven that trees were a transmitter from Earth to other planets and had become revered. Therefore logging had become extinct. Stupid that I've never heard of that one. For convenience, I will use masculine pronouns for his story ending on a high note. You know, what does this sound like? This sounds like Kamala Harris's voting, you know, group, whatever.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

I'm just telling you, if this doesn't do, like, if you're not like. Because we have people that listen to this and they're like, yeah, I believe in Christ, but like, why not like some of these other things? And I don't think there's anything wrong with that. You, you drop this dumb as you move towards the truth. Right. If this doesn't make you drop a ton of that dumb, like reincarnation and, and you know, the past lives question it for sure. I mean, if you just look into the sources and the lack of cohesion and the, the contradictory information from one experience to another, you have to, to, you have to shelf that theory in a really big way because right now it's a mess.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

And the nerve of these people too. When you read the Bible, they, they like condescend on you and it's like, that's what this is, what you guys are talking about.

[Seth Kickliter]

Well, they're not all reading this goofy ass stuff. That's why I'm pinpointing and putting it.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Typically they're having did.

[Seth Kickliter]

I would hope they wouldn't feel the same way.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

They would have their experience, which by nature of it being profound, they mistake it for the truth.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

And then, you know, I, I can

[Seth Kickliter]

choose what works for you. You know, ignore the dumb stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, There's a lot of that. So yeah, those are some fun quotes. Just to give you an idea of what this book sounds like. Now, I made it sound dumber than most of it, but it's pretty much on that level the whole time. So then we have star seeds, which I know y' all like to talk about.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

I love this.

[Seth Kickliter]

And you know, quick little overview is Starseed is someone who is apparently a soul incarnating one time, not in the incarnation, in the reincarnation cycle, not stuck in it. Doesn't matter what they do. They're coming either straight from source, being deployed. Yeah. From their godhead, maybe, which is a whole other conversation. Often. And often they will be an alien soul from another planet or dimension coming to Help. Help us because we're in some trying times and they're making things better, clearly, right? Yeah, yeah. But they start to help us ascend to 5D, which is coming soon.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Hell, yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

This started not to be confused with 5G. This. Right. This started in the 40s. The first wave came from the 40s to 50s. Yeah. This wasn't a thing before, which I've heard about them having Walk Hawkins for, like, Abraham Lincoln, and he helped free the slaves because of an alien possessing him. That's what they've also said.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

But by the way.

[Seth Kickliter]

But also, this started in the 40s.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

It's not always a soul thing. A lot of the times it's actual genetic material from an alien species. They say that the planet. So it's like it's all over the place. Lack of cohesion in any of this.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah. So. But they. They came in the 40s. There's a first wave. Dolores Cannon has multiple books on this. The first wave was in the 40s, 50s. Second wave was like 60s, 70s, 80s maybe. And then the third wave is like 90s or so. Till now.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Now.

[Seth Kickliter]

And each wave had. The first waves had a harder time adjusting. And they did basically, they say, like, oh, these first waves had it so hard because, well, they had no. They didn't have understanding of our culture because they're from so foreign to our crazy, weird culture. So what they started doing was they would imprint. Now these people would find out their starseeds from reliving, like, alien home planet memories or source memories where they're sold. Hey, you got to go down to Earth and help them. And you're like, okay, I'll try out. They. They're getting these memories of them doing this, agreeing to this in a past situation, spiritually or in another planet. When that happens, they are coming here, and they don't have experience of our culture. So let me just say that people will have a past life memory and do all these sessions, and then eventually in a session, they'll find out, no way. I never had any past lives here. I was actually a star seed, and this is my one incarnation. And then they'll get a memory of them reliving that agreement. So then you're like, well, how does this coexist? How do you have past life memories? You can access and also. Also can access this idea that you don't have any other past lives here. Coming from a spiritual encounter of agreeing to this in the contract, they have an excuse for it. Dolores Cannon talks about imprinting. This is where if you're from Source or you're from another planet to understand us, especially if you're from Source, they will let you go to the Akashic Records, pick and choose memories of other people to download into yourself so that whenever you go to Earth, even though you're getting your mind wiped anyway, anyway, your subconscious will have some kind of download of information to kind of understand the culture and be fit in so you're not like a total dweeb and sticking out. So they say that you take other people's memories and they belong to you. So if you lived any past life memories and then later find out you're a starseed, those past lives you downloaded from Source from the Akashic records. And now. Now that's how you explain it. Which sounds kind of like damage control to me of an excuse.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

But it's a.

[Seth Kickliter]

It's. It works logically in a dumb way.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

If, like, truly you are willing to believe in anything. No.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah, because it's coming with all these feelings and making you feel important.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

And it's. Your whole life is so boring and you're working at McDonald's and you're flipping burgers, then you find out, oh, you're a Starseed, came to help people.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah. It's very meaningful.

[Seth Kickliter]

And I got to read this quote because it makes it sound even stupider. This is from Dolores Cannon's work, I believe. Yeah. This is a testimony talking about the situation. The second wave is now in their late 20s and 30s. They have made the transition to life on Earth much more easily than the First Wave. First Wave, the Second Wave souls tend to work behind the scenes, often on their own, creating little or no karma. In the sessions I conduct as a hypnotist, they have been described as antennas that unconsciously channel energy onto the Earth. They do not have to do anything. They just have to be. Their energy affects everyone. They come into contact with their. The paradox is they are supposed to be sharing their energy, but they don't really like being around people. So they're making you secluded and making you, like, they're giving these weirdos who don't have much friends or interactions actions, making them feel okay with being a. A hermit. And they're like, you don't have to do anything.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Actually, the job.

[Seth Kickliter]

You're helping people just by existing.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

The mission.

[Seth Kickliter]

And you're like, wow, I don't have to improve or do anything for anybody ever. I just have to exist. But that's a great deal for me

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

if you believe one thing. Because it was like Profound and emotional and then all of a sudden something is introduced and it's the entire opposite of the first thing. Yeah, but once again it's profound and emotional. Now you believe that's thing then it stands to reason all it needs to be is emotional for you.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

And you're gonna believe it a lot. Doesn't matter what it is. Doesn't matter if it's completely the opposite. Contradicts entirely. Not just a little bit like there's some idiosyncrasies. Entirely the opposite. You have multiple past lives on this planet. Wait, psych. No, the you don't. This is your first incarnation. You're a starseed. You just did. We didn't tell you that the first time. So now all I got to do is just tell you some other and give you an emotional response. Honestly, a lot of this, you know, is achievable by the, the modern day technology that programs like MK Ultra and everything have. Because we can cause these emotional responses in you. Much like you know, we can cause a heart attack with a heart attack gun. So they can just tell you anything and you'll believe it no matter how much it's the opposite of what you previously believed. That's crazy.

[Seth Kickliter]

It absolutely is. That is exactly right, kind sir. And you know, I don't want to. I, I'm not trying to on the ladies, you know, I love you guys so much but I think over 2/3 of these of these testimonies are from women and I bet the rest are gay men. But you know, I'm just putting it out there, honestly.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah, that's how it goes though, man.

[Seth Kickliter]

Well that, I mean this is the new age crowd and it's just, just to. There is a correlation there. Not one to one. But it's not 0.8. I don't know. So I'm just putting it out there that that is a factor we should keep in mind. Now I want to remind people of episode two and I talked about this earlier, but I need to hammer this in. It's not just what I'm talking about today in the spirit releasement therapy lore, the guy who does new age exorcisms which are, you know, deceptive theatrics. Watch episode 2, DMT lockout if you have not. They literally have the therapist who does thousands of sessions of healings. He says when a client discovers a disturbing memory it can be a past life personality. Though just as often it is the traumatic death of an attached entity saying ghosts will give you these memories. And in Carl Wicklin's 1920s work that's earlier and more simple where it's only ghosts he's channeling. Channeling. All the ghosties channel. He will channel spirits who come back later to thank him for exercising them who went to the spirit realm. And they'll come back and say, oh, oh, thanks for helping me out, by the way. Just going to share some little information. Reincarnation is not real. Every past life memory you've accessed is coming from connected spirit attachments of that ghost who live that life. So they're admitting constantly and then they're giving diverging lore. And I already talked about this in episode two, but it's an important reminder. They can give you false memories. Are these actual memories of people people or they downloaded fabricated ones? I think it's both. And it can be both. And the astral lore confirms that they're capable of greater things than just fake memories. They can make you feel like freaking grass and make you happy about it. Remember? Yeah, exactly. So if they could do that, this is nothing. Just keep that in mind. It is all possible within their wheelhouse of abilities.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

They are funny.

[Seth Kickliter]

They are pretty funny. So let's see what time we're at. Let's see if we can. You know, I don't know if I. I was gonna skip this one, assuming time was okay. I have so much. You know what? Let's just go crazy and I'll come back if I need to. This is good.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Okay.

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[Seth Kickliter]

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[Seth Kickliter]

I feel the love book of verbo that's loved by guests. If you know you've Erbo. So we're on secret space program which a lot of people don't study this stuff. They don't know about it. They might have heard it in passing. It Is not talked about enough. Because if you reverse engineer what's going on here, there's a lot you can gather. So a little overview of some of the crazy stuff about it is secret space program was. What did Atma say?

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

They can turn you into a banana sandwich and molestify you.

[Seth Kickliter]

Come on.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

That's David Wilson.

[Seth Kickliter]

You're wild, bro. Yeah. So peace, Steve.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Rest in peace today, Rip Dog.

[Seth Kickliter]

So secret space program lore, apparently this all started around the 60s, maybe earlier. And it's apparently where this deep black project run by a breakaway civilization, some people talk about escapees from World War II. The Nazis started some of this and that became the Nordics. Time traveling 250 million years in the past. And then they evolving and that's how they became us. And that's what Jason Giorgiani pushes might be though. So let's not get into that tangent right now because he will do a hex on me. But they are this project where they're doing 20 year contracts, usually where they find people and they give them a contract to send them into space, time traveling them usually to the future to do 20 years of work. And they will time travel into the future. They'll work for 20 years years. And these memories come back later in the same ways. Everything else comes about through meditations, through, through regression therapy, through dreams and visions. They come back in sporadic bursts, okay, Just like the rest of this stuff. Now they will remember these crazy vivid details and I'll get into those in a minute. But essentially whenever their 20 years is done, they're really usually traumatic work in space. In the future. Sometimes in other timelines, they will be time traveled back back to 15 years after when they left. So they go in this little pod and then they come out the pod 15 minutes later. And that's when they went for 20 years. They came back and they get. Now they did. Now they didn't stay the same age because they, they didn't astral travel there. They physically were transported. So they are now age regressed. 20 years with technology that the black projects are hiding. They regress you 20 years in age.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

I've heard this.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They regress you 20 backs. Yeah, they time travel you and they regress your age physically with technology to make you exactly the same age when you left 15 minute gap or you go into a pod, they knock you out, put you in a trans state, make you open to demonic stuff. And you also sign two to four hours worth of contracts usually. And you're not reading any of it. It Takes you hours to sign all these contracts. That's a lot of literal consent given to be deceived. And these memories are instantly in them. They come back and they're. They're. They say they wipe their memory after they age, regress them because it's for their own good, so. Because it's so traumatic and scary. And then the memories come back later. So I don't think they're necessarily implanting the memories right then and there. I think. I think it's. They're giving them some intuitive download of, you know, this confusion and this, oh, something happened and I'm traumatized. I just don't remember what. I think they're doing that maybe. And then when they come back, they're confused and they. They're really cognitively messed up. And then over the next few years, these memories come back through these various means. Now, what else happens? So some of the. I just want to go over some of the crazy things you have to believe, if you believe in SSP lore, because there's a lot of people claim to have it. There's a lot of books, There's a lot of Testament testimonies. I don't think these are bad people for the most part. I think they're deceived, and I feel sorry for them. They're victims. So I'm not talking about them. I'm just saying you'll heal a lot faster from this if you know it's all fabricated. So please figure that out. Basically, there's a bunch of crazy stuff you have to believe if you believe these things. One is they have an interplanetary corporate conglomerate, the icc, which is a breakaway consortium of bo, he, Boeing and Lockheed, and, you know, those type of companies. Companies. And they abduct humans for slave trade to hundreds of ET species in exchange for exotic tech. Hundreds of ET Species, they say, if I documented that correctly, or at least a lot of them. And I'm not denying that they're not evil enough to do that. But are they. Are they. Are they actually doing that to all these ET species when they could do it themselves? First of all, I don't understand why they need to give us tech. And how much more tech do we need, guys? But there is more to have, I suppose. They also say that Many World War II Nazis escaped to Antarctica allied with the Draco Reptilians.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Right.

[Seth Kickliter]

You know, there's different types and still operate its own interstellar military and trade fleet using human slaves. And they're not Nordics. They're a different whole Thing that's very David Ike. Yes, he loves the channel. And find out. And then even crazier, the moon's insides is actually a giant central hub called Lunar Operations Command LOC that functions as a multi dimensional multinational and diplomatic spaceport with segregated zones for rival human factions and ET groups. So there's some level of, level of, you know, un. Between these groups.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

And another thing, this is one of the goofiest apparently ultra terrestrials UTs, not ETS have established in the last few decades I think in the 80s. And multiple people are saying this with their memories recovered that multiple that these UTs established in the 80s, I think a barrier or shield around the entire solar system that is energetically blocking more alien reinforcements from coming in, in or leaving. So that, that the whole point of this, the whole point of this is so that if this happens, this is saying, okay, well now the aliens can't bring in more infinite numbers of aliens because there's so many out there that you can have a chance of defeating them. But we're going to keep the ones in so that you know, you still have a little struggle. So it's, it's like balancing it.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

It's a prison planet within a prison planet.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah, that's how I. Prison planet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's always, there's always some layer to that and I do actually want to read. Read. Okay, so this is going to get a little bit more. You're going to hear more of like some patterns here. So there was a doom room that Fringe ran with Doomer daddy who I love both of those people by the way, very much so. And they did a space with Jason Sands not too long ago. And Jason Sands is a big time and I very good man. Not talking about him at all. Love you Jason. Uh, but he claims to be in the secret space program and the only time he talked about these memories in detail tale was in this one space. And he kept saying that he's like I'm only going to talk about this once. And I documented the out of what he said and I'm going to read you some of his. A little bit of his quote seeing if you see any patterns here because Fringe I think aligns with me somewhat on this but hasn't plainly said it to Jason. I think. Yeah, Fringes is she's too nice and I'm not.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

She's too nice. I think she's playing like a, a massage game.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

You know, where it's like gradually we're gonna get there.

[Seth Kickliter]

She doesn't want to force her agenda like I am in a way that's abrasive and push people away. And I totally agree.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Right, right.

[Seth Kickliter]

That has been the smart move. But I don't have self control so I just want to. Yeah. So Jason, love you. Good guy. I've tried to communicate with him on X. He's responding to me, but I don't think he actually watched any of the material I sent him. But you know, he has some. A lot of trauma, PTSD from these memories, if they're real or not.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah. He said it's also a retired Air Force veteran.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah, yeah.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

45 years as a defense contractor, UAP whistleblower. Okay. All right.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah. And so he only talked about this once and he's talking about at this moment his secret space program type missions such as eliminating reptilian groups with advanced guns.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Hell.

[Seth Kickliter]

Or rescuing humans off planet who were abducted in some slave trade. I guess more crazy stuff. And then Fringe asks Jason if these missions have any dream like material or non physical elements or you know, astral stuff.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah. And.

[Seth Kickliter]

Or drugging, you know, stuff like. Like that. And he says no, there's no drugging involved. It's more like paralysis. And quote, he says the ability for some of these NHI to switch you off. All I remember is being in one place at one point where I was in my bed or in a facility and having some awareness and then being switched off. The next thing I know I'm in a helicopter. Another kind of convey or another kind of conveyance or if it was an NHI craft. I think sometimes that that is the case. I was one of. I was one of them them. And then I'd be switched on. I'd already be moving towards the objective and somehow telepathically or mentally, I already had a picture in my head telling me where to go, what the first objective was and what I was supposed to do. The only part I. Where I had more freedom, autonomy was actual hand to hand combat. So he just admitted that these NHI are turning him on and off in these SSD programs and he just is one in one place and then the next and he's already moving there.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Sounds a lot like turning on one

[Seth Kickliter]

illusion or, or remember the switching in the astral. Just one. One row to the next.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

What would you call it? A simulation? Yeah, one simulation.

[Seth Kickliter]

That's exactly what I'm saying. This is. It's the same thing. And he only has a little bit. He. He's telepathically controlled or, or intuitively driven the Entire time. And then it's time when he has full autonomy. Like combat, which, you know, they're gonna play it out how they want.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

I've heard stories like this on the confessionals where guys. Guys claim to have these, like, really fantastic experiences. Even a kind of a military nature to them. In these. In this, you know, dream realm, they would go to sleep.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

And they would live this entire other life as an operative with vivid, you know, vivid memories and. And missions and things like that.

[Seth Kickliter]

And a coherence and consistency. Yeah, exactly. So it's not just your subconscious being silly.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

That weird Rambo dude, Right.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

That's right.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

The weird Rambo dude is one of those guys. I've heard other ones that are a little bit more on the mythical side side, kind of knights and dragons, Lord of the Rings style, you know, experiences that are consistent from one experience to the next. And there's characters that recur and there's missions and that they, you know, have to pick up again when they go back to sleep. Like you didn't complete the whole thing. So you got to get back.

[Seth Kickliter]

And they align with other peoples. They have a consistent thing and there's

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

people that are there, you know, so. So I. I've heard this sort of thing before. Yeah. But it should raise massive alarms. Like, what the do you mean? Then all of a sudden you're coming to and you're already in route. You're already, you know, being piloted.

[Seth Kickliter]

Were you possessed before that? Or were you like, that's alone a big enough red flag or. Or why were you unconscious but moving around and doing stuff.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Exactly.

[Seth Kickliter]

It's just like I'm starting a scene of a movie at one part that

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

you choose, and that's this guy, this guy, Jason Sands.

[Seth Kickliter]

Good guy.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah. I mean, you know, probably, dude, who the hell is going to see through that? You know what I mean? Like, you have these experiences. Yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

The whole astral thing. Remember, you know how often they said it felt realer than reality? Yeah, that's. You got to keep that in mind. And the people, when they relive these past life memories, they feel like their own because they're. It's so powerful.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Sure.

[Seth Kickliter]

And you don't have. You've never understood that power because you don't. You don't have a lot of spiritual experiences. And then you have these. And then you're like, oh, this is my disturbance.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah. This guy is literally a combat veteran and a defense contractor. This is a dude who lived a lot of life by the book in. Very predictable and Logical fashions.

[Seth Kickliter]

And I'm sure threatened to join. He was threatened. His family was threatened. I feel bad for him, for him. But he was tricked into this and they probably thought he was a good target for this type of material, you know, there. And you don't have to be super gullible to buy into this stuff as an experiencer because it's so powerful. So I'm not calling him gullible. I'm just saying they're not gonna pick people who are. And he's a Christian, but he believes like the aliens are literal and the Reptilians are literal.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

On top of all that, it's like, good luck convincing somebody that this isn't like, you know, a good thing or it's a deception when you're doing fundamentally badass. Like, that's what makes it even crazy.

[Seth Kickliter]

Right.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

It's like you're an operative who's, you know, BF in non human intelligence is like, yeah, this is crazy, dude.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah. But they described it so traumatic at times that. And like, reliving it is traumatic. And they're like. They would heal a lot easier, I think, if they knew this and didn't believe in it because it would take away the power it has over them, I think. And the probably and the reminders from, you know, whatever influence spiritually they're having, which obviously is something to be getting these downloads.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

So also. So I didn't finish because I said. Or I was gonna get to after that. After he says that, that whole quote. Fringe says she's been in similar scenarios and asks if he knows if he was in his body. And he says, whether I was in my own body or an avatar, I couldn't tell you. And he also says when I felt pain, it was real pain. And, you know, reminder. Anybody who watched episode one, Death and dismemberment ritual, they can simulate the real pain as well.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah, I've had dreams where hurt real bad.

[Seth Kickliter]

Exactly. Yeah. There's no. There's no difference there. And it doesn't always, but I think it's selective up to whoever entities. Facilitate. Facilitate. Facilitating it decides. And then regarding the memory of these events, he said it's pretty fragmentary because of all the turning on and off. Just reminding you they're constantly turning you on and off, starting you at a certain point of importance.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

If they can control you to get you there, why don't they just finish this off with your body if they need your body? Well, because robots for all this stuff, why are they doing all this soul travel yeah, metaphysical stuff and this time travel and age regression when they can use robots for this.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

But it's also the energy that it takes to render the experience right. Like just jump them the. To. To the next scene.

[Seth Kickliter]

No, exactly.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

So, yeah, it's just the switching thing. So that's very much in the astral connection. So, yeah, the SSP stuff is crazy and bananas and it's very gnostic. It's very gnostic. And Dan Duvall, with all the stuff he's pushing, his healings, the recovered stuff, it is bridging to this whole concept.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

He, he mentions the mining operations that people talk about in SSP memories where they were a slave on a. Mining on a, on a. On a moon in Sirius called Colony or Ceres Colony, whatever it is. And they were like, they worked there as a slave as a minor for years. They don't remember every little detail every year there, but they get fragments. So all you got to do is give them a fragment of a storyline and then you're like, okay, well, that's what obviously was happening to me for years.

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[Seth Kickliter]

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[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Interesting.

[Seth Kickliter]

For years. Like, I think it's. They started saying this, and it might have been before his first administration, but it was definitely during his first administration.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Wow.

[Seth Kickliter]

So early years ago. And they're saying that he is working with the Nordics. No, literally. Yeah.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

And that he is. And multiple people said this, and they're pre programming this whole thing. And my whole view of that was, okay, well, if they're pre programming this thing, that he's a white hat playing 5D chess.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

Which I'm not saying there's no 5G chest. I just think it's all demonic. But there is some elaboracy going on here. And people go, oh, he's a. He's a. I'm like, you don't fumble your way like a to the top like this and have all these complicated things happen because you're dumb. You're. You're acting. Acting because you're demonically powered.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

You don't do it twice either.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

You don't do it twice. Exactly.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah. So the whole people thinking he's retarded, I'm like, dude, you're not gonna. You're gonna be deceived by these psyops coming because they. They're like, oh, he's so dumb for faking assassination in the dumbest way. The first one's more believable. And I'm like, dude, they want you to believe this Obi for many reasons. But anyway, we'll. We'll talk about that later. So they do say this, though. And they say his name. Not his, not just everybody else. Yeah, please do. They say his name the same and consistently. So I thought, oh, my God, it's just like QAnon. They're trying to get any of the deep conspiracy researchers. They're trying to, like, neutralize them from figuring out he's the Antichrist because he has so many of the boxes. He's checking.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Sure.

[Seth Kickliter]

And they're trying to get ahead of it. So any of the deep conspiracy researchers will find this and go, oh, he's just playing 5D chess. And that's what the QAnon stuff was saying, which was, by now we know an op, you know, by feds and probably demonically powered for the false prophecies they were getting giving. But it's. It's hard for me to flow on this right now. I'm getting crazy in my brain. Anyway, it's. That was just a big sign to me that, oh, they're pre programming him. Some protection of this man.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

There's.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

There's been a lot of stuff with Trump the whole way along that, you know, even the whole. You leave little breadcrumbs. Like the Ingersoll Lockwood book.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah. The time traveling Trump thing. They're gonna use all of that.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Like, they're. They're doing a thing on purpose, and

[Seth Kickliter]

they want you to figure out, like, you're. You're cracking some. Yes.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

100. Which is why people.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Interesting admission the other day with, I think, Lara Trump. Right. Or whoever. The transgender Trump is.

[Seth Kickliter]

The transgender trans Trump.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Yeah, it would appear so to me.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Okay.

[Seth Kickliter]

I know this.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

They. She said something like, oh, you know, the little Baron Trump stuff can't be real. And people believe that. Also believe that, like, we didn't go

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

to the moon and 911 was an inside job.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Like, everything I believe, I'm just kind

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

of like, that's a really weird, like, group to put that in.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Yeah.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Because it's like those things were obvious. Obviously.

[Seth Kickliter]

True.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

911 was obviously an inside job.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

So now. Yeah. It's like a weird kind of backward admission, but I think it's also one of those things where they want you to grab onto that.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Yeah. And go, oh, Seth, Let's.

[Seth Kickliter]

Let's.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Let's pick a spot to.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

We're gonna bring it in for a landing. Okay.

[Seth Kickliter]

I'm running out of gas, and also

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

my back is killing.

[Seth Kickliter]

I understand.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

I didn't think this shooting arrangement through.

[Seth Kickliter]

Listen, I'm coming up near the end, but this is my most important stuff I want to talk about. Can I go for, like, maybe. Maybe 12, 15 minutes?

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

I think that's a reasonable amount of time.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Kill me, bro.

[Seth Kickliter]

I'm holding my piss and just like you are, bro. Yeah.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Well, all right.

[Seth Kickliter]

This is the stuff I really wanted to get to.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Okay.

[Seth Kickliter]

All right. Okay. So that is all I hope makes sense to you. I want to talk about my labs for a minute, which is, if anybody doesn't know, it's military abductions, where people who are abducted by aliens will, soon after their alien abduction, get abducted by government operatives who work with aliens simultaneously in underground bases. And they will be taken to these labs and be questioned, questioned and interrogated to find out what they. Basically, information they might gather from their abduction, which usually they're. Usually their memories are wiped. Right. So, like, how much can you gather? But I just want to add to the fact that I'm going to do this shortly, but I believe that my lab's memories. I don't know about all of them, but I think that they are more than likely simulations and implanted memories as counterintel. And we're gonna.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

These people aren't having interactions in these bases and such.

[Seth Kickliter]

I don't believe that. No. I think some people have base. Yeah. Underground bases, you know, programming, whatever. But I think that the specific my labs project has signs of disinformation, fake memories. And the reason I'm going to say that is because I'm going to read what they say to people and you're going to. You're going to see some patterns here that kind of might sound a little weird. So these are some of the questions. According to the book. What is the book called? My lab's Military Mind Control and Alien Abduction by Helmut and Marion Lamb Hammer. So they are. These are joint operations with ETS and humans, apparently. And it's obviously the aliens are in charge here, but they try to play it like they're both in charge and it's like, not really. So these are some of the questions they'll be interrogated on. Just keep in mind this is happening to a lot of people. They say, what did they show you? Did they mention any timelines or bases, any implants, timelines? Just keep. Keep that in mind. Okay. Then they'll ask, what did the aliens tell you about their plans for Earth? Or did they give you any messages for the government or world leaders? What kind of TV show am I watching? Is this really? Do they not all work for Satan? Like, what is this? Describe any devices or symbols they showed you. Do you know what they do or are you aware of any foreign objects in your body from them? Insect symbols. It's a little close to sigils here. That's interesting. Did they mention any other groups or beings? Reptilians, Nordics, or anything like that? Like that. What year or place did they say they came from? They're trying to get intel on the other aliens pretending to be a different alien faction. These are multiple factions. It's trying to plant that lore, talk about timelines, talk about other species factions. They're trying to. So that when you come back and tell the story, you are promoting the literal, expansive aliens theory. And all they have to do is give you a fake memory that is also traumatic and, you know, can, you know, get you in a lot of dark head spaces and keep you even more programmed for more. More. And if you believe it, you're going to probably get more. And I'm not saying the abduction experiences aren't real, but we know there's tons of astral just as much as Physical, if not more, who knows? Because they could make them seem physical.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah, they're going to look for candidates who are receptive.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yes, exactly. And they can read your mind. And I think that the. My lab stuff is. I don't know about all of it, but I'm gonna say if they're asking questions like that, there is. They're not going to get any intel that way. They're already working for one source and if you disagree with that, you're. You're going to be far behind.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Also, it's a terrible mode to look for intel because you would, you're. You're leading the subject. If you want good, clean information, you have to allow them to come to these conclusions or say something like that. You can't just say, what about alternate timelines? What about, you know, technologies and symbols and other species? And it's like you have to let them get there because if you think that you might have led them into it, your information's.

[Seth Kickliter]

Now that's what everything is built upon is, is letting you think you came up with it yourself. And then when people tell these memories, which they're allowed to keep by the way, some of the time they're just sharing disinformation so that you hear that and go, oh, there must be multiple factions and timelines and all that was. But that's the idea they're trying to submit, in my opinion. And that's why I led to the. This is fake. And also it's a huge project for terrible intel gathering and the ROI again, they have, yeah, a lot of resources and money and black projects are pretty crazy funded. But that is a crazy move and risky move for minimal roi. And you're letting people keep quite a few of these memories, which is just interesting. So that's what I think is going on now. Keeping on the train of reverse psychology memories that are implanted, I think, as disinformation tactics. This is where I have to bring up a certain name of here. Emma Catherine, I love you. We emailed recently and you were very nice to me, but you kind of went off on me a little bit for giving out the whole idea of implanted memories by demons. She is not a fan of that. And you know, she's an angel sent from heaven. I have nothing negative to say about her. I'm just putting it out there. What she believes, I think is a little bit flawed and part of the disinformation tactic. And I think people would be a lot more inclined to healing from these things easier if they knew These were false memories that were demonically implanted. And this is what I believe. Now. I got an email chain with her and was basically asking. I wanted to come on the show, but I knew she doesn't hardly have anybody on without a testimony, but sometimes she will. And I was like, I really just want you to talk to me and understand this and watch my interview so that you can understand this is possible. Because I don't know what she believed. And I brought up the whole, you know, secret space program and, and water kingdom memories and all these crazy outlandish things. I'm like, you don't believe these, right? Like these are, these are implanted demonic memories for disinformation tactics. And she got offended by that and said, no, there is no way demons can implant false memories. Which by the way, they've admitted that ghosts can. The, the ghosts themselves. So we know that some spirits can. And if they're not ghosts, then they are totally fabricated.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

You're saying according to the lore of this.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yes.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Seth Kickliter]

So, so she's had the most conversations with, you know, SRAMK victims and she's doing a great work getting the word out out there. But these people who are, you know, put in this satanic ritual abuse and demonically oppressed, they are getting opened to being downloaded with false memories. They're perfect and primed for it. So, and I think part of the reason it is is because they give them these crazy memories not only to create disinformation for people who believe it, but most people are going to hear that stuff and, and go, oh well, all the satanic abuse must be made up too because there's no way they're doing secret space program stuff, which is reasonable. So it's a win win because if you believe it, you believe this information. If you don't believe it, you disbelieve the whole entire story.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Story.

[Seth Kickliter]

So it's a.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

That.

[Seth Kickliter]

So planting these memories have multiple layers to them and multiple benefits for the agenda. So I told her, I said, hey, these are demonically impressed. And I'm not saying all of it is. I'm not saying the victim abuse is at all. And I think she understood and she said no, the explanation. And I'm trying not to butcher what she said, but she basically said the explanation for these false memories because she doesn't believe they're all real. It seemed to be, but she, she said no, they're not deceived, they're not tricked by fake memories. This is the source of Hollywood studio scripts, actors and props and drugging the experiencer to get into trance states to be receptive. And then they go through these scenarios while they're in this state and they have a whole movie put on for them to live out these fake scenarios.

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[Seth Kickliter]

And that whenever their memory remember whenever their memory is activated to remember their these things, they build it in a way that makes sense to them by constructing this cohesive, realistic narrative, even though clearly it didn't have the same level of production value as the real deal.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

I mean, I would say that there's some of that for sure.

[Seth Kickliter]

I'm not denying it happens in some degree, but I'm, I'm saying to account for all the ssp, the water kingdom where you're a freaking mermaid underwater for and you remember. And I'm talking about like one example of SSP memory is Tony Rogers in his book talks about, about being on Mars and getting lost from his group and he's attacked by this giant space spider thing that chops his arm off and he's crawling for hours to his base and he makes it and they regenerate some arm for him and I'm like, I don't know how you. And he's crawling for hours with his bleeding out and I and he like, he like. So he like covers it with some. Yeah.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

I mean there are people that I'm aware of in the case of that Rambo guy top like these people are just going to sleep on a regular day. Like there's people that are entering these realms when they're dreaming and they're having these like places where they go and have this experience and they're mission driven like we talked about before. It doesn't seem like there's any removal of the individual. In fact, a lot of the time these people seem to be like, I don't know, rural country bumpkins that aren't getting CIA assets driving up and kidnapping them in the night, taking into some sort of studio and then bringing them back to their Bed when some of these people I remember listening to, they're like we've had these experience reliably nightly for months and months and months, sometimes years of going on the mission, you know, wherever it is that they're going when they're dreaming, I'm like I don't think so. I think, I think something is happening in a spiritual realm or not a spiritual realm but I mean, you know, get into that whole conversation. But I don't think everything is a physical studio. I think that sometimes these people, people are taken and, and like they might have something that looks like a gray and it might be like a foggy memory when they actually did something to you. But I don't think that accounts forever.

[Seth Kickliter]

I'm not denying that happens. But to for that to make sense, like how do you explain all these reincarnation memories? Are you saying if those aren't demonically impressed then you're saying all these two to four year olds are out in these small little villages all over the world, are taking a little bases and drugged and put under these things and parents don't know they're gone? You know, some parents sign their kids up. But you know, I'm just saying thing there's so many crazy memories. When you read the SSP lore and the water kingdom stuff, which water king's much less common. They're so elaborate. I can't make sense of how this could make sense if. If. Especially if you're drugged in some sort of trance state while you're experiencing this. You have a lot of autonomy in these memories. You're doing a lot. You're having relationships. You're not just like a zombie, you know, zwing down having things happen to you.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

And it's like passive memories.

[Seth Kickliter]

It doesn't make sense. And the structure of it now. So then I asked her, I said okay, well do you.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

You what did I ask her, by the way? Ari Shafir did Salvia and lived an entire life under the sea. Had a family and a job and the experience felt like it lasted months.

[Seth Kickliter]

Time dilation, right?

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

And then he comes back and of course it's only a few minutes because that's what salvia is. And that was.

[Seth Kickliter]

People have whole lives as air conditioners where it feels like full lifetime. Nobody took Salvia has its own archetypes just like DMT has its own archetypes.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Nobody took Ari. Nobody took Ari. Nobody put him in a Hollywood studio. Like this just did sound exactly. And was hanging around with his friends. Friends. They watched him.

[Seth Kickliter]

Thank you.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah. You know what I mean? So, like, if that can happen on Salvia, then it tells you not everything is going to be. And it was an underwater experience too. So, you know.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah, exactly. So I'm just. I asked her, I said, okay, well, are you getting this Hollywood studio story from any whistleblowers who are part of these projects? Because obviously that's a huge project for all these people to be doing all these storylines. It is a huge project. And asteroids, like, is there any whistleblowers coming out? Because there's whistleblowers for, like everything now. And to be such a big project, there's got to be one or two. I look deeply online. She didn't answer that question directly, but she kind of surpassed it. And I looked online for hours and hours and hours, couldn't find a single person. So then it's like, okay, well, then she's saying, no. Victims are saying they're getting memories of waking up in a studio with actors and props. Now, if they're recovering memories and maybe they didn't believe their SSP memory or their fake moon trip memory, which they have, maybe they're questioning it. Okay, damage control control demons now can implant a false flag memory, just like the pattern of the. Of the other stuff where they're implanting a memory of them waking up in a studio with Hollywood characters and then go, oh, that's what that was. And then it normalizes all the crazy SSP lore and you're like, oh, that makes sense. So for the people who are already doubting it, they are getting catered to in a way that makes sense, but that's a false flag in and of itself. And I said this to her and I gave her an example and I. I referenced. You remember when I talked about Vicky Joe Anderson sleep paralysis thing and the whole fabricated room, how they're fabricating the astral room. And watch episod 1 if you want to hear about that in detail. She talks about your sleep paralysis. Is actually your astral body frozen. And I didn't talk about the story, but a testimony I've heard of multiple times is that in these sleep paralysis episodes, which are probably simulations where your astro body is frozen, people will see gray aliens. Not always shadow people, but gray aliens. And sometimes they'll be like, oh, oh, they can see me. Oh, no. And the gray alien will push a button on their belt, a technological button, and they'll shape shift into a shadow person. And what is that? What idea does that present to you? Okay, well, it must be. Be. This is A physical phenomena. And all shadow people must be aliens come here. Which a crazy ROI, by the way, for their work efforts just to spook people and freak them out in the sleep state. They're. And multiple people have said this, so I'm like, they're using fake simulations to make you think that the phenomena is more physical and more technological. Which I'm not saying it's not, but

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

it gets into Jordan, Joseph Jordan, who says that this is a spiritual actual phenomenon masquerading as a physical one.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah. Now, there are physical aspects of the nephilim and a spacecraft, but I think much more of it is simulation than we think.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

And that is kind of an effort to make it feel more physical. Right. They want you to buy into the physical thing and they want you to

[Seth Kickliter]

remember these things and come out and tell people. So it gets into the cultural storyline. So people say, oh, I saw in my sleep process. I saw a Gray.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

He.

[Seth Kickliter]

He messed up. He was not shape shifted. Oh, he's gonna mess up and you're gonna catch him. Like he's that stupid. Yeah, multiple times. No, no, he's. It's a false flag. Planting a fake story so that you, you come to the conclusion on your own instead of being propagandized. It's the same pattern. So I said this to her. I gave her that whole story. I said, hey, that's an example. I don't know if you know Vicki Joy, but that's what her work and does that make sense to you? And she kind of didn't really respond to that directly. And she just kind of got mad and denied the whole thing. And I don't blame her at all.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

She's.

[Seth Kickliter]

Her heart's in the right place, but I want, I need this point to get across. And I, I was telling Gray the same thing thing, and I said, can you, can you guys watch these interviews and make sure that, you know, this is possible? Because it's right. Even if I'm wrong, it makes sense. And of course it's possible.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

You know, all you have to do is just like I said, look at the re thing.

[Seth Kickliter]

Yeah, exactly. That's one of many examples we could bring up.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah, but it's a really simple one. It's a really popular one. And really, how many people are doing salvia and having these types of experiences? No, you know, CIA operatives involved, no movie set, no Hollywood style effects or anything like that. They're just going there. So. Well, look, we got to bring it in for a landing because I'm just sat on There like a baby. And my back is killing me, and. And Top is asleep now, and so we gotta. We have to bring this in. Is there anything that you want to say in closing? Don't make me regret that question.

[Seth Kickliter]

You know, I. I'll think of someone to plug later at another episode, but, yeah, I guess. Please buy my book, guys. I don't really need the money, but I want to get the word out vision control or share my podcast with people, people who are deceived in these various ways. Because I think this overall, almost nine hours of work I've given to y' all with these last few interviews is like a cohesive model that covers the majority of this stuff, and I think it's explains all this.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

It would be very funny to do a thing where, you know, he won't listen to us, but especially because he blocked Top. Top blocked him. But everybody should go to Jordan Crowder's page and be like, everything you believe is. And Seth Kicklater's book addresses the vast majority of of it.

[Seth Kickliter]

You are so mad you're being deceived.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah, that would be a lot of fun. There you guys go do that. Even if it doesn't yield any fruit, it'll still be fun.

[David Lee Corbo (Top Lobster)]

Like that guy.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Yeah, you know, I liked it better when he was a alcoholic. Apparently he was before, so.

[Seth Kickliter]

All right, well, let's.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

Let's. Guys, don't forget, go and where. Where the hell is Amazon?

[Seth Kickliter]

It's Amazon Spirit realm shenanigans and unhinged rant exposing the psychic fabrications of discarnate dweebs and nephilim nitwits. And you can find everything. My podcast, my free audio book, my. My Instagram, my Twitter, where I get real crazy and talk about my theories. Go to linktree.com Seth Lehem or just Seth Lehem on X Sethlehem underscore on Instagram, where you can see my silly little concert photography from years ago. Pretty cool stuff. Yeah, Just follow me and DM me if you want to have any questions for me. I'm trying to be a homie and answer everything.

[Co-host (Possibly David's co-host)]

All right, all right, guys. Say the thing.

[Seth Kickliter]

What am I saying? Thing?