Can Jesus Stop Demonic Activity? | NDS Chronicles

Summary

Podcast Summary: Nephilim Death Squad – "Can Jesus Stop Demonic Activity? | NDS Chronicles" (July 23, 2026)

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Episode Overview

In this episode of NDS Chronicles, hosts David L Corbo (aka The Raven) and Matthew Hepner (merchant of Brown Water, host of Straight Bible) curate and analyze listener paranormal testimonies, focusing on supernatural experiences, spiritual warfare, and the reality of demonic encounters through a biblical and comedic lens. They discuss if invoking Jesus can break cycles of haunting and possession, interspersing cultural commentary, music talk, and personal stories. The show blends humor, candid personal reflection, and biblical worldview, seeking to equip believers and challenge skeptics regarding hidden spiritual realities.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Opening Banter and Podcast Community (01:06–04:36)

• The hosts invite listeners to submit their paranormal experiences for reading and commentary: “If you want to send something for us to read and ultimately mock... but it might actually bear some good fruit...” – David (01:06)
• Promotion of the Patreon and NDS Bible Study: a grassroots, community-driven Bible study group (03:24)
• Humor on podcast roles, timing, community inside jokes (e.g., “Patreon.com... access to communities of dangerous retards on Twitter, discord and telegram.” – David, 02:57)
• The community is emphasized as collaborative and cathartic.

2. Commentary on Christian Online Debates: Orthodoxy vs. Protestantism (04:36–19:37)

• Ongoing online conflicts about Christian Orthodoxy, sparked partly by Jay Dyer’s appearance on Tucker Carlson.
• Critique of the claim that “the only real way to be a Christian is to be part of the Orthodox Church” and the controversy of paid baptisms (15:16).
• “All I got was this lousy t-shirt from toplobster.com which is also where you can get your tickets to Bohemian Grove.” – David (14:52)
• Insights: The intelligence agencies’ interest in religious institutions; the cyclical nature of online religious debates.
• The importance of fruits/“check the fruit” in Christian life: “If your life doesn’t look right, nobody wants to hear what you have to say.” – Matthew (19:51)
• Reflection on authenticity and hypocrisy in public Christian figures, referencing Jay Dyer and others.

3. Paranormal Testimony: Hauntings and Spiritual Warfare (21:54–36:56)

Story 1: The Horse at the Window (Mexico, 1994)

• Listener recounts his father staying at an abandoned house due to a family land dispute.
• Terrifying nighttime events: “He heard a sound... like a horse right by the window... as if someone was trying to force the horse through his window.” – David reads testimony (26:05)
• Unnerving details: No hoof prints found in the morning despite muddy streets; only the bike tracks from the previous day remained (30:41).
• Matt asks, “Did the beginning of the story... talk about enemies... why would he assume someone’s out to get him?” (28:57)
• Discussion of brujería (witchcraft) and folklore like La Llorona (“wailing woman” common in Mexican lore) (32:10–34:38).
• Mexico’s “thin veil” between realms is linked to prevalent witchcraft and bloodshed (35:39).

Story 2: Seeing a Dead Man on the Couch

• Listener teases another personal experience: “Saw a dead dude sitting on our couch as a kid. Maybe for a later time.” (35:57)

4. Paranormal Activity & Authority of Jesus (38:33–85:15)

Story 3: “Calling Upon Jesus Stops Another Haunting” (Mike from Missouri) (38:33)

• Listener, formerly a “meathead/metalhead atheist," shares his progression from atheism (heavily influenced by Reddit and Dawkins) to experiencing and overcoming supernatural oppression after coming to Christ.
• Early haunting: Bedroom door would unlatch and swing open at night (45:17)
• Describes substance abuse, moments of sudden rage and possible demonic oppression especially after drugs (“I wanted to kill people at random… I thought I was possessed for a minute,” 51:34)
• After his stepdad’s death, paranormal events increase at home — exploding planters, lights flickering, photos tilting, and a dog reacting to unseen things (53:03–64:23).
• Key Testimonial Moment (84:53): “I prayed to Jesus for a hedge of protection in and around my mom’s house in his name. And then all the paranormal activity stopped.” (84:53)
  • Analysis: Both hosts reiterate the biblical stance on Christ’s authority (“I highly recommend people do that... accept Jesus as your lord and savior and forgive every single person in your life...” – Matthew reads, 85:15)
• The spiritual principle of forgiveness and breaking demonic footholds is stressed, referencing Ephesians 6:12.

5. Personal Stories & The Power of Confession (109:05–111:03)

• Both hosts share struggles with addiction (weed, cocaine), emphasizing Christ as the deliverer: “...the only thing that, like, the final element, was Jesus.” – David (109:05)
• Discussion of conviction and repentance, and the Christian’s spiritual sensitivity to sin post-conversion (110:49–114:02).

6. Broader Cultural Commentary: Music, Witchcraft, and Infiltration (87:35–127:02)

• The spiritual influence of popular music, from punk/emo rock to hip-hop.
• Dissection of lyrics (Sublime, Linkin Park, System of a Down), normalization of darkness/subversive content (“...music is a form of worship and it's either worshipping God or not God.” – Matthew, 105:14)
• Noting occult symbolism in Fleetwood Mac, Blue Oyster Cult, and modern pop (Stevie Nicks as a channeler, top hats and Masonry, 104:39–106:23)
• Commentary on how spiritual deception is packaged for cultural consumption: “They mask the most egregious and disgusting [stuff] under this, like, poppy little filter…” – David (120:57)
• The hosts critique American materialism as spiritually numbing (“...the most people under the most spells...” – Matthew, 121:23)
• Passing references to AI in media hoaxes and generational changes in music morality (96:24–97:36)

7. End-Times, Alien Disclosure, and the Catholic Response (129:46–135:00)

• David reveals he tried to prep by watching a new documentary ("Not Of This World: Catholic Faith in the Age of Disclosure") but it isn't released yet. He muses on the Vatican’s historical interest in aliens/disclosure and how the Church might prepare the flock for supernatural revelations.
• “So you’re gonna go out and speak as the representative of the body of Christ and say people are going to be real confused and there's going to be a lot of reassessing …I’m fine. Why am I fine?” – David (135:11)
• The hosts insist mature biblical worldview inoculates Christians against deception (“Jesus died for the descendants of Adam… like, that does matter.” – Matthew, 133:22)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Spiritual Warfare & Jesus’ Authority

• “If you are earnestly pursuing the truth, then you’re going to end up at Christ.” – David (47:52)
• “I prayed to Jesus for a hedge of protection …and then all the paranormal activity stopped.” – Testimony by Mike (84:53)

On Christian Conduct & Fruit

• “Look at your life. Like, if your life doesn’t look right, nobody wants to hear what you have to say.” – Matthew (19:51)
• “Check the fruit, bro.” – Attributed to Brenna Kamehameha (20:32)

Cultural Critique

• “They mask the most egregious and disgusting [stuff] under this, like, poppy little filter where everything sounds upbeat and fun.” – David on modern pop music (120:57)
• “The American people don’t think that they’re under wizardry and witchcraft and sorcery, but it’s like the most people under the most spells...” – Matthew (121:23)

Micro-Moments

• Linkin Park frontman Chester Bennington’s death date is revealed to be the same date as the episode, sparking genuine spooked reaction. (79:11–80:10)
• Numerous tangents about music, childhood delinquency, animal cruelty, and the role of confession and repentance.

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Important Timestamps

• Paranormal Story – The Horse Window (Mexico): 24:55 – 36:49
• Story Analysis/La Llorona/Thin Veil: 32:10 – 34:38
• Haunted House & Doors Unlatching: 45:17 – 53:03
• Praying in Jesus’ Name Ends Hauntings: 84:53 – 85:15
• Addiction Testimonies & Deliverance: 109:05 – 111:03
• Music, Witchcraft, and Sorcery in Culture: 104:39 – 106:23, and again 120:57 – 121:23
• Alien Disclosure & Catholic Response: 129:46 – 135:00

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Tone & Style

The tone is candid, irreverent, and peppered with dark humor, explicit language, and memes. The hosts are outspoken in challenging both spiritual deception and cultural malaise, with an emphasis on authentic experience and biblical worldview over denominational squabbles.

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Conclusion

This episode's central narrative is the experiential power of invoking Jesus' name in the face of demonic or paranormal activity, evidenced by listener testimonies and affirmed with biblical principle. The discussion highlights both the reality of spiritual warfare and the sufficiency of Christ’s authority, rounding out with rich tangents on music’s spiritual and cultural influence, and a sobering warning about the need for discernment in a rapidly changing supernatural landscape.

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“If you’re being haunted, just make sure to repent of your sins, accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior, and forgive every single person in your life. Jesus is truly the breaker of chains.” – Mike from Missouri, as read by Matthew (108:03)

Transcript

[David Lee Corvo]

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[Matthew Hepner]

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[David Lee Corvo]

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[Matthew Hepner]

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[David Lee Corvo]

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[Matthew Hepner]

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[David Lee Corvo]

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[Matthew Hepner]

Top Lobster productions

[David Lee Corvo]

in the shadows, They're still here today. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of NDS Chronicles, the show where we read your paranormal testimony. Guys, if you want to send something for us to read and ultimately mock, but you know, still we're going to read it and it might actually bear some good fruit. Might be interesting. It might be cathartic for you. You can send that over to Chronicles, nds Gmail.com. i am David Lee Corvo, aka the Raven. That is Matthew Hepner, merchant of Brown Water, host of Straight Bible, and also

[Matthew Hepner]

the little brother of disinformation.

[David Lee Corvo]

I was gonna say friend.

[Matthew Hepner]

Oh, okay. Sorry.

[David Lee Corvo]

That's gonna be nice.

[Matthew Hepner]

The little brother's usually on time when he's in the big chair.

[David Lee Corvo]

I'm always on time. The only reason we're never on time is. Is because of Top. And I'm gonna go ahead and I'm gonna.

[Matthew Hepner]

I don't just blame Top, though. It's specifically Puerto Rico.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yes, that is true. Puerto Rico. They. They're in a different time zone, right?

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah, it's kind of. It's called island time.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah. So ever since his coming to the States, he's never acclimated.

[Matthew Hepner]

Right. It's not even like a time zone. It's more of a time realm.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yes. A time riff. So we're gonna get into it. Patreon.com forward slash. I didn't pull it up so I can't share it. Patreon.com/now/nephilim death Squad. Sign up there. Gain early access to episodes, ad free listening experiences, and access to communities of dangerous retards on Twitter, discord and telegram. We just did another Bible study, the NDS Bible Study, which as an acronym is ndsbs, which is very funny.

[Matthew Hepner]

I like that.

[David Lee Corvo]

And I have no part in that. Top has no part in that. Matt has no part in that. It's actually the community getting together and. And just doing a Bible study.

[Matthew Hepner]

But it does remind you of Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs, the BS usb.

[David Lee Corvo]

I've never seen Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs.

[Matthew Hepner]

Great movie.

[David Lee Corvo]

Also, children's cartoon.

[Matthew Hepner]

You crushed on the last show, dude, like in Hebrews.

[David Lee Corvo]

Oh, really?

[Matthew Hepner]

Like, yeah, you were basically asleep for the first time, like, I don't know, half hour.

[David Lee Corvo]

Well, I'm not supposed. I'm supposed to produce.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah, yeah, but you were sleepy too. But even that sleepiness, you did drop some hammers in that.

[David Lee Corvo]

I was sleepy. It takes me a while. I usually wake up at like 7, but it takes me a while to, like, come out of it. Yeah, I just have like, you know, the sleepies in my eyes and the sleepies on my face and it's just hard for me to shake it off. And I try to drink a lot of water as soon as I wake up. Drink some water, drink some black coffee and. And still.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah, it just takes a minute. So.

[David Lee Corvo]

It just takes a minute. It takes a minute to warm the old system up. So, yeah, maybe go check that out, guys. That's. That's live on YouTube. So after this show, you can go see the episode we just did on Straight Bible with Otis Fowler on was Hebrews episode five, which is pretty cool. And yeah, maybe I dropped a nugget or two, but it was a really cool episode. Really fascinating stuff. Great conversation. So go check that out.

[Matthew Hepner]

Before we get into what we're gonna do today, was there anything in the news over the weekend?

[David Lee Corvo]

In the news over the weekend? I wasn't really paying attention to the news over the week. I've been busy.

[Matthew Hepner]

Okay? Solid.

[David Lee Corvo]

I've been busy. My wife. My wife. I don't know if I have a button for that. She. She was hanging out with an old friend and so. Oh, there. NDS is no longer a conspiracy show. It's an anti Orthodox church show. That's. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's what's big in the news is that Top, while supposedly on vacation, has been fighting the Orthodox church again. So nothing new. Here. I do find that when he.

[Matthew Hepner]

Is that Top or is that a made up one?

[David Lee Corvo]

He says Xerox is dead. So actually, I feel like it is time. When Top goes on vacation, he always. He always gets into fights on vacation. Top, have you noticed that correlation yet? You're supposed to be relaxing and unseen

[Matthew Hepner]

trying to pick a fight with me this weekend.

[David Lee Corvo]

No, I haven't seen anything. Yes, you did.

[Matthew Hepner]

We're in the group chat. I didn't take the bait.

[David Lee Corvo]

What, what fight? Was he talking about the Jews or something?

[Matthew Hepner]

Yes.

[David Lee Corvo]

I didn't even really.

[Matthew Hepner]

I typed. I typed out a response and I was like, don't do it. Don't do it.

[David Lee Corvo]

I didn't. I didn't. Oh, it was what? He was making fun of Missler.

[Matthew Hepner]

No, no. Spurgeon.

[David Lee Corvo]

Spurgeon. He was making fun of Spurgeon because he knows you love Spurgeon. Yeah, I just noticed that's a pattern. I'm a pattern recognition guy. Top goes on vacation and goes to war with people.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

I mean, like, it's. I think he doesn't know how to relax. Almost like he's a guy that likes to work. He's a guy that likes to work. He's always working. If he's not working. I think he gets a little bit like. He goes, no, these guys. There he is. There he is. JK. J.J. says top should listen to Danny Jones with Peter Lavenda because he would find 100 instances of problems with the Orthodox Church and intelligent community there.

[Matthew Hepner]

Oh, the intelligence community is in cahoots with Orthos.

[David Lee Corvo]

That means the Jews and. Yeah, yeah, I can get that. Iran. Iran bombed some bases in Jordan this morning. Did they really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is talking is relaxing for Top. Hey, Jen, how you doing? Good to see you.

[Matthew Hepner]

So that's the heart of Top Lobster right there.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is the heart of Top. I'm gonna tear them down to the last stone.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

No stone will remain stacked upon another.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yes.

[David Lee Corvo]

When. When Top Lobster is done with the Orthodox Church.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yep, yep. So he's been. He's been upset. I hope he manages to enjoy the rest of his vacation. Have a spot. And this is what happens too. When he gets mad at other people, I also get hit in the crossfire. He called me the other day, said that I was going to become Orthodox or something like that. I've literally not engaged with any of this. I've been completely busy, not looking at the Internet at all. Actually enjoyed a really good time with my son. I took him to a Place called the Celebration Station, which is like go karts and laser tags. No, it's in Clearwater. Okay. It was kind of a. I'm not gonna lie. But, you know, my son couldn't tell the difference. He loved it. And I'm gonna be very honest with you. Be very honest with you.

[Matthew Hepner]

I already know where this is going.

[David Lee Corvo]

I showed up. Maybe on a bad day. Maybe on a bad day. I showed up on a bad day.

[Matthew Hepner]

This is exactly what I try to explain.

[David Lee Corvo]

And. And I. I showed up while. While two school buses filled with. They were all black, and let's just say, you know, just. Just manners and Manners and. And. And.

[Matthew Hepner]

And.

[David Lee Corvo]

And good behavior.

[Matthew Hepner]

Saw your face.

[David Lee Corvo]

Oh, man, I pulled up. Dude, I'm telling you. I pulled up on a weekday. It was a. It was a Thursday, I believe a Thursday. Parking lot's empty except for. And I go, oh, yeah, dude. Like, we're crushing. We're gonna have the time of our lives here. And then as I'm going to park, two school buses pull up, and I go, damn, man. We showed up on a day where the school trip. And then all of a sudden, they start filing out, and I'm going, one, two. I'm looking for any. Any. Any white kids at all. Not a single white kid.

[Matthew Hepner]

I don't like that. I like that. That, like, there's even a little bit of, like, an influence on me now. Yeah, that you do that.

[David Lee Corvo]

I didn't do that. I didn't make the bus show up, and I didn't make you do.

[Matthew Hepner]

There's a little thing you do where you saw that bus, and you probably went like this.

[David Lee Corvo]

Recognize what was about to happen? Sure.

[Matthew Hepner]

What happened?

[David Lee Corvo]

They're just very rude. Very rude. No manners. It was just bad.

[Matthew Hepner]

It was like, what. When they're waiting in line to get.

[David Lee Corvo]

Dude, I was waiting in line.

[Matthew Hepner]

They cut in front of you.

[David Lee Corvo]

It's so funny you should say that. So I'm waiting in line, and all of a sudden, this little kid comes up to me, and he goes, excuse me, can you move? And I'm looking like. There's like. It's a ride. It's taken a long time. We've been waiting in this line for a long time. There's a couple of kids ahead of us. I'm doing the math. It's gonna be a while that we're here. And I go, I'm sorry. What was that? And he goes, can you move out? Not gonna do any bad voices. This isn't what it sounded like. But he said, can you move out of the way so that I can get in front of you. And I go, oh, no, no, no, no. We've been waiting here in line. You know, it's. You gotta wait.

[Matthew Hepner]

Explaining cutting.

[David Lee Corvo]

And he goes. And he goes, so y' all not gonna move then? And I go, no, no. And he tries to, like, work around me.

[Matthew Hepner]

And I go, he tried to juke.

[David Lee Corvo]

No, no. And then he goes, oh. And he walks away. And then you can hear him and his friends all talking about me and my son also. We went go karting. And for whatever reason, they all just deliberately smashed into my son, which is how you're doing. Gas powered go karts. You know, my kids doing donuts now he's spinning out in the. Look, I'm just saying it was. It could have been a more pleasant experience. My son had a lot of fun. We went to the batting cages, and this kid, I go, hey, Jackie. Hey, wait, what the hell's going on? Look, he's trying to get me wrapped up, and he wants. He's trying to say the right combination of words to get me in the fight.

[Matthew Hepner]

So.

[David Lee Corvo]

So we're at the batting cages, and there's a clear and distinct area marked on the ground over the plate that says, don't step here because you're gonna get blasted with a ball.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah, rules.

[David Lee Corvo]

And I go, hey, Jack, come on, it's your turn. And he starts walking up, and I go, just don't step into that. And before I could say it, he steps directly into it. Takes a ball to the knuckles. Oh. Handles it really well, but never gets to swing the bat. Hand swells up is all.

[Matthew Hepner]

He's tough, dude.

[David Lee Corvo]

He's a tough kid. Didn't cry, didn't. But he was. Poor kid. He's. He's under the weather right now. He's. He's really feeling it.

[Matthew Hepner]

All right, so who do you blame that on?

[David Lee Corvo]

Probably the Jews. I don't think that they are necessarily doing frequency warfare against my child, but I also don't think that they're not doing frequency warfare against my child. So, you know, he's a little under the weather. And we're still determining if it is the poison and the food and the goy slop straight from Israel or if it's the chemtrails in the sky that also the planes are piloted by the Jews. So, you know, very problematic. All right, so we're gonna get straight into this story. You're not gonna be able to read any stories, Matt.

[Matthew Hepner]

Why?

[David Lee Corvo]

Well, because you don't have A laptop.

[Matthew Hepner]

And I do have a laptop.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, yeah. It's just too complicated. Oh, hold on. Wait. Tops. Enter the studio or I think we're about to get yelled at about.

[Matthew Hepner]

No, he just said he's going back in the pool. You got to put his last post up.

[David Lee Corvo]

Okay. Anyway. Going back in the pool. Any and all Orthodox members leave the chat. Unbelievable. He's very nasty. The pool at your place or. No, no, he would be here. He wouldn't be in that pool. He's. He's on the vacation pool. Where does he go?

[Matthew Hepner]

I. I have no clue.

[David Lee Corvo]

He has a habit of going to Puerto Rico.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah, like.

[David Lee Corvo]

Like highly ethnic areas.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

And I think that stresses him out.

[Matthew Hepner]

Do you know where he went?

[David Lee Corvo]

He told me where he went.

[Matthew Hepner]

I don't think he ever told me.

[David Lee Corvo]

It was something exotic. Something exotic. The words were the. The name was exotic. All right, I guess. You know what? I'll put.

[Matthew Hepner]

Wait, like a. Like a flying vacation? Like they flew somewhere or they're just like, driving to the beach for the weekend?

[David Lee Corvo]

I do believe he flew somewhere.

[Matthew Hepner]

Huh?

[David Lee Corvo]

I think they went to an actual vacation.

[Matthew Hepner]

Huh.

[David Lee Corvo]

Hey, what the heck is that? I don't know what that is, but.

[Matthew Hepner]

Dude, a gold coin. Let's take it.

[David Lee Corvo]

Thank you. JC. Hey. Hi, JC for the 10 gems gold coin. I don't know what that is.

[Matthew Hepner]

It's gold, bro.

[David Lee Corvo]

Oh, that's very cool. Very cool. Oh, wait, wait. Hey, where.

[Matthew Hepner]

Where.

[David Lee Corvo]

Where'd that banner come from? Son of a. Look at the banner at the bottom of the screen. The entire Orthodox Church and all its constituents. Did you put that? Did you do that? What is the gold coin? Thank you for the. Thank you for the gold coin. I cannot believe this. What an. What an. What a terrible.

[Matthew Hepner]

Wait, but so the Orthodox so called. What do you want to call it? Doctrine or theology? Nobody has ever considered that, like, rational or good or anything, but somehow in the last few years, it's like made this huge uptick. Like it never seems like something you would fight with. You would just kind of ignore it.

[David Lee Corvo]

Well, I think it got really big.

[Matthew Hepner]

Not ignore it now because it's like a thing. Like it's.

[David Lee Corvo]

It depends on what your algorithm is. I think so.

[Matthew Hepner]

And is it just living off how stupid the so called, like, pro. Like, they just call it Protestant. They try to divide it up like that. Like, the show is so stupid and there's so many people scamming for money in the 501C3 that somehow it's. It's just this false idea that. Well, you Got to be one or the other. If you're not Protestant, if you know how stupid that is, then you got to be Orthodox.

[David Lee Corvo]

Well, I. I'm naive to much of it, so I didn't detect that in any meaningful way. It's obviously much more on display lately. So what happened was Jay Dyer got on Tucker Carlson's, and he's a big Orthodox guy. Big debate, bro. So you can debate anything and win, though.

[Matthew Hepner]

It's not like Orthodox. Right, Because Jay Dyer can win a debate about. No, no.

[David Lee Corvo]

And I like Jay Dyer. I don't know if that ship is sailed. I don't.

[Matthew Hepner]

Top said he's a really good dude. That even, like, he showed up to Bohemian Groves when he had diarrhea sick, and he still showed up. He's like, a good dude.

[David Lee Corvo]

I got debate raped at the Orthodox Church, and all I got was this lousy t shirt from top lobster.com which is also where you can get your tickets to Bohemian Grove. So. So he was on Tucker Carlson's, and. And now because of that, you know, Orthodoxy is back in the conversation. It was recently that, you know, the paid for baptisms became part of the conversation. So Orthodoxy was taking a real ass pounding, which is, you know, both fair and unfair. It's not every Orthodox church that's charging for baptism. But when you say that the only real way to be a Christian is to be part of the Orthodox Church, and then you find that there are so many instances of churches, Orthodox churches, charging all kinds of different fees for baptisms, you go, so you have to be baptized in the Orthodox Church to be a Christian, and the Orthodox Church is the true church. But then you find instances of them making you pay for it. You go, well, that's. That's a stupid blanket statement. The most popular Orthodox saint is an open homosexual. Is that true? Oh, is that Sarah from Rose? I think I heard that he was.

[Matthew Hepner]

Wait, but. But was somebody alluding to early in the show that it's a psyop or that. Or that the agencies are involved in

[David Lee Corvo]

it, saying the intelligence agencies are wrapped up. Of course the intelligence agencies are going to be wrapped up in every single major religious institution on earth. So that doesn't surprise me at all. I would say it's a given that that would be the case. But to be perfectly honest, I haven't been paying much attention to it. I. I kind of did a thing, and I didn't realize the tide was coming when I did this thing. And what I did was I went on Twitter and I said, jay, Dyer, why don't you follow me anymore? I love you. I'm happy to see you crushing. Right? That's what I said. Because he went on Tucker. I didn't watch the episode. No offense to Jay or Tucker. I don't watch. So I said, followed you. He unfollowed me. And it was at the time where I said orthodoxy was getting the. Pushed in on Twitter because of the paid for baptisms. And so. So I said that. I just tweeted to him, I said, hey, man, why'd you unfollow me? I love you. Happy to see you crushing. What I didn't realize was behind me, a great swell was happening and a wave was coming. And that wave was the orthodoxy contention once again. So as soon as I step into the arena, you know, the. The public arena as it is, it's public square. And I say this thing for the next week, it looks as though this is not going to be rectified.

[Matthew Hepner]

Nobody can be friends, either you or Top. The last thing I saw with Jay Dyer was that he said he's not going to debate religious stuff anymore.

[David Lee Corvo]

Who knows? I mean, who the hell knows? I don't know.

[Matthew Hepner]

I don't.

[David Lee Corvo]

I don't watch his content or anything like that. The way that I saw it was I find it remarkable on a regular basis that any of my homies can touch the cultural zeitgeist. And I consider Jay Dyer a homie. We've had him on the show. He's been to our live events, all this.

[Matthew Hepner]

Showed up even sick. Showed a lot of right. Right for doing that.

[David Lee Corvo]

So when I see that, I think it's remarkable the position that God's allowed me to be in, but then also the position that, like, I was talking to Shane Cashman about this on the phone the other day, like all of our friends, you know, and then I guess there's contention. I don't know whose friends. Who considers who friends anymore. I really don't give a. But they're all touching this thing, which is the cultural ball, right? What's to be rectified? Who remembers how our relationship with Jay Dyer started? Yeah, he asked to. To debate. Debate me, I think it was. And then what? Exactly. That's what I said. And then I said, I'll box you because he was looking for a boxing partner. So he conceded to me whooping his ass if we box. And I conceded to him whooping his ass if we did my. We debated and then we had a pretty cool relationship after that. And by cool, I mean he comes

[Matthew Hepner]

on the show started, and then it. And then he dropped you because you said, I don't know.

[David Lee Corvo]

I don't know. He probably thinks a bunch of that. I. I don't think. You know what I mean? Like, you think a person has these opinions, but you don't go and ask kind of a deal. I don't really have many opinions on it. I don't think that you're the one true church. I'll say that. And I don't think that.

[Matthew Hepner]

How long has he been Orthodox?

[David Lee Corvo]

Who knows? I know he's invited me and Top to the Orthodox church early on in this, but no, he. That's right. He. He mistook Top for xg. That's right. That was so funny. Oh, yeah.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

Because they look the same. So. Yeah. I don't know, man. It's. It's just been this whole thing. It gets dredged up again, and then Owen and. And Jay Dyer have some bad blood for a bunch of reasons that I'm not familiar with, because I'm not going to go deep into the lore of why these guys have contention. So. Yeah, it's just a big mess. And. And I find it.

[Matthew Hepner]

Well, Owen brought up an intriguing point, which. What? No, nobody's taking sides on it or whatever, but he said, why would I take any advice from Jay Dyer on God? Look at his life. Like.

[David Lee Corvo]

Like, oh, that's always fair. Yeah.

[Matthew Hepner]

And. And it's an intriguing statement that I think all Christians should take to heart, man. It's like, look at your life. Like, if your life doesn't look right, nobody wants to hear what you have to say.

[David Lee Corvo]

I actually don't know what Jay Dyer's life looks like. I know what Owen's life.

[Matthew Hepner]

I think Owen was making the point just that, like, not married or recently married, no kids, that late in life, almost saying, like, dude, I'm not going to listen to anything from you about God. Like, you're not in a position to tell me about God. Like, you don't know anything.

[David Lee Corvo]

That's a fair point.

[Matthew Hepner]

Right, kids? Which, again, I'm not taking sides. I mean, it's whatever. But. But I think we all should be mindful of if we're going to represent Christ, like, what our life looks like. Not just like, oh, can I win a debate? Oh, how cool is my doctor? No, no. What does your life look like?

[David Lee Corvo]

That's what Brenna Kamehameha said is, check the fruit, bro.

[Matthew Hepner]

She knows.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah. Yeah. So, like, look at the. Look at the life. And Jay has ibs. Yeah. I Mean, is that the measure of a man? I don't know. I had IBS for a while, so. Yeah, I don't know. That's been the whole thing. I haven't looked at it. I haven't looked at it at all. I've been busy, so. Okay.

[Matthew Hepner]

Sorry to take you off track.

[David Lee Corvo]

No, it's okay. Let's get into this email Here. I'll put this up on the screen so see it too. And it's oddly sized, which is fantastic. Maybe if we minimize it. No.

[Matthew Hepner]

Oh, no, dude, it's an Israel thing right from the jump.

[David Lee Corvo]

No, no, no, that's not.

[Matthew Hepner]

What was that?

[David Lee Corvo]

Okay, we're just gonna have to make this big screen.

[Matthew Hepner]

Oh, great.

[David Lee Corvo]

And then I can't even. Like, how the hell do you navigate this?

[Matthew Hepner]

I don't know.

[David Lee Corvo]

Oh, this is the worst. I'm sorry, Matt. You're just not gonna be able to.

[Matthew Hepner]

No, that's fine. Wait, I think I have that same Gmail. Do I have that same Gmail?

[David Lee Corvo]

It's Chronicles Gmail. If you're hooked up into that, then maybe I do.

[Matthew Hepner]

I. I have that I've never used.

[David Lee Corvo]

Oh, thank you again, JC for the 10 gems. It says happy poop. Well, happy poop to you. I wish you the best. What is the. What are the gems? What are the gems?

[Matthew Hepner]

We're getting.

[David Lee Corvo]

We're just covered in gems right now. And. And I don't know. Happy poop for. For you and Jay. Well, thank you very much, J.C. i. I greatly appreciate that.

[Matthew Hepner]

Okay. I don't know if this. I mean, I think this is the same email we're all on or.

[David Lee Corvo]

No, no, that's straight Bible. You can tell by the straight Bible at the top.

[Matthew Hepner]

Oh, I see what you're doing.

[David Lee Corvo]

This is teaching. Teaching man how to do. Yeah, it's just Boomerisms. Oh, my goodness. Look at this. Incredible. Dave Law, son servant of the Most High with the gold coin.

[Matthew Hepner]

Gold coin? Do you want me to Google what is that?

[David Lee Corvo]

No, no, please just stick with the. You're just doing the email thing for now. That's enough.

[Matthew Hepner]

No, I can't find the email. There's no. That's the only button I had, but there's 800 emails.

[David Lee Corvo]

Well, I'll read this one, and then we'll figure out something where you could read the next one. So this. I'm not. This comes from a name. I can't pronounce it. Just as chat is real. Oh, wait, I'm sorry. We gotta do this. Chat is real. I appreciate what y' all Are doing, y'. All. Gay is not allowed in the kingdom. Amen. Yeah, I really appreciate that.

[Matthew Hepner]

No gay over sticker.

[David Lee Corvo]

Gay is not allowed in the kingdom. My dad has had a lot of entering interesting stories of things that he experienced, unfortunately. Ah, geez. Oh, he pulled a David Wilcock in 2012, but that'll be a future story. Some Jerry Marzinski stuff happened. All right, I'm putting pieces together. David Wilcock left this realm in a rather ungraceful manner. This experience took place around the spring of 1994. My father had to take a trip to Mexico over a land dispute before he had between he and his siblings. So he and his siblings. I wonder if it's a inheritance issue. He stayed in his mother's house, which at this point had been abandoned for a while. The only thing in it was a small dinner table, old spring bed, and propane stove. As a man, I do feel like that's all you need. A little table to eat at, an old bed, and a propane stove.

[Matthew Hepner]

I'd be solid with that.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, I was talking about that over the weekend with my cousin and I. He was talking about all these things that he's doing to improve his life because of this. This woman who's in his life and. And he believe he's getting ready to propose and all this stuff. So God bless him, really hoping that works out. And. And he's like, yeah, dude, like, I wouldn't be doing any of these things to better my life if it wasn't for her. And I said, yeah, like, as far as dudes go, like a mattress on the ground, Something that plays, like, music.

[Matthew Hepner]

No. When we moved into this house, I was like, it's got a walk in closet where I can put a desk with a Bible. Yeah, it's got a bed

[David Lee Corvo]

pretty good. Yeah.

[Matthew Hepner]

There's a kitchen where we can plug in a fridge.

[David Lee Corvo]

Place to cook. Whoa.

[Matthew Hepner]

I think. I think we're good.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, that's it. Don't really need much. All the accoutrements of a home.

[Matthew Hepner]

Accoutrements.

[David Lee Corvo]

Accoutrements. That's a good word. Is not. That's all for women. It's all for women. The streets in this little town were still dirt, and it had been raining, so everything was muddy when we arrived. His neighbor was about to leave out on his bike, so he went to greet and talk to my dad for a few hours. Okay. A few hours. Damn, bro, that's invasive.

[Matthew Hepner]

Oh.

[David Lee Corvo]

For perspective. In front of the house, facing the street, it had a big window roughly Four by eight, with bars on the outside resembling prison bars.

[Matthew Hepner]

One of those.

[David Lee Corvo]

Is that what's going on? What seems rural.

[Matthew Hepner]

A couple buses rolling.

[David Lee Corvo]

Not urban. Nope, nope, nope, nope. Resembling old prison bars with flowery designs. All right, so before bedtime, he scooted the bed right under the window. He carried with him a stainless. 357 Smith Wesson and kept it under his pillow at bedtime. Fast Forward to about 2 to 3. That's a weird. You just went for, like, this dude talked to my dad for a few hours. So, like, this is what the window looks like.

[Matthew Hepner]

And my dad keeps a.357 Magnum under the pillow.

[David Lee Corvo]

Under the pillow. God bless him. Fast Forward to about 2 to 3 in the morning. He heard a sound. What sounded like a horse right by the window. He said it sounded like whoever was on it was trying to force this horse through his window facing the street. Lots of stomping and pissed off horse noises. That's interesting. That's terrifying horse noises. I like that you've turned your back to the chat because you're so distracted.

[Matthew Hepner]

You're so distracted. Imagine hearing this in the middle of the night, though, guys, right outside your window.

[David Lee Corvo]

Stop trying to distract Matt. He's doing the best he can and he knows I'll get very upset and he doesn't like when I'm cranky and.

[Matthew Hepner]

Well, it's not right because it's like, you know, there's a time and a place to do the chat thing. There's a. I don't wanna. I'm not even gonna look. I see your face. I'm not gonna lie.

[David Lee Corvo]

I'm just looking at the widescreen shot from the third camera. And it's just your back. It's very. Here, look. Wait, where is it? Oh, is this one.

[Matthew Hepner]

I don't care. What else am I supposed to do?

[David Lee Corvo]

No, absolutely, you're crushing. I. I appreciate the efforts you're putting in same. Okay, so mother. Somebody said mother horse eyes in real life.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

He thought to himself, someone knows.

[Matthew Hepner]

So they're clearly in a place with horses though, right? It's not like they're just on a city street and he hears a horse.

[David Lee Corvo]

Well, he said that the.

[Matthew Hepner]

There could potentially be a horse out there.

[David Lee Corvo]

The streets in this town were still dirt. Okay, so this is, you know, which is why I was a little bit confused about the bars in the window. Although I guess if you're in a rural area.

[Matthew Hepner]

Not typical though.

[David Lee Corvo]

No. I could see it as being. As an added layer of defense. The police are never going to make it to wherever the hell you are in time or.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah, maybe tornadoes or something.

[David Lee Corvo]

Tornadoes. By the way, this past weekend, like, the storms were so crazy. I was down in Clearwater and I was watching spires of clouds stretch down to the water. Try to touch the water in the land and water.

[Matthew Hepner]

It was when we were. When we were scalloping two weeks ago. Same thing. Water spouts happen all the time on land. Is a different.

[David Lee Corvo]

It was crazy, though. Like the wind and the rain and the flooding and everything. Thank God I got it.

[Matthew Hepner]

Jeep.

[David Lee Corvo]

Now he thought to himself, someone knows he is in town and they're there to start. So we pulled the hammer back and got flat against the wall. Damn, bro, this guy's about. He's Dirty Harry in it. He's ready. Then again, he didn't want to blap a drunkard acting stupid, so he just stayed still and waited. He said it felt like the pissed off horse was there tearing shit up for a long time. After a while, just like turning off a light switch, the noise went away in an instant. No galloping, no more noise. Nothing but stillness. No galloping away. So it wasn't even like you heard the thing leave.

[Matthew Hepner]

This is very bizarre. Did the beginning of the story, where I might have been reading the chat a little bit, talk about. Talking about, like, the guy had, like, enemies and stuff or, like, why would he assume somebody's out to get him? Did it talk about that?

[David Lee Corvo]

Well, no, it's just very jarring. He was like. So the neighbor on the bike came over to talk to my dad for a few hours.

[Matthew Hepner]

I caught all that. What did that have to do. And then. But nothing in the beginning was like, my dad had some enemies.

[David Lee Corvo]

Well, there was a. He's in this place. Oh, this is Mexico. We. We glossed over that.

[Matthew Hepner]

What?

[David Lee Corvo]

So this is.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah, that's a detail we need to know.

[David Lee Corvo]

1994, Mexico. Dirt roads.

[Matthew Hepner]

Oh, yeah. Somebody's trying to kill you.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, they're probably doing brujaria.

[Matthew Hepner]

They're gonna get you, dude.

[David Lee Corvo]

And he was there because of a land dispute among his siblings. Oh, so imagining an inheritance.

[Matthew Hepner]

Oh, yeah. Siblings might even.

[David Lee Corvo]

They could be. Yeah. Blap them up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, okay. He stayed put just in case they came back. Went ahead and stayed awake until sunrise. Damn.

[Matthew Hepner]

Okay, so Mexico. That makes sense that there's bars even in a rural area.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, see, we're. So if you weren't reading the chat.

[Matthew Hepner]

Well, no, I. I thought you.

[David Lee Corvo]

Like, I was locked in.

[Matthew Hepner]

I was trying to look.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, we Both fell.

[Matthew Hepner]

I take the blame, but I was trying to look up the gems and gold coins on YouTube. Super chat. There's nothing for anything.

[David Lee Corvo]

I don'. Where Nancy is.

[Matthew Hepner]

No, it says it's not anything.

[David Lee Corvo]

Nancy's not here. After this story, by the way, we're gonna cut the stream to only the Patreon members. So if you're a homosexual, sorry. As soon as there was enough daylight, he went outside to see the mess the horse made in the mud. But there was not a single hoof print to be found.

[Matthew Hepner]

So it's not like they have. You know, initially I was picturing like American landscape around the window. And the horses just eat in the bushes and stuff. Stuff and just eat everything around the house.

[David Lee Corvo]

And he.

[Matthew Hepner]

Now it's like, no, there's nothing. They're in Mexico.

[David Lee Corvo]

And he. He's like. He listened to this horse for a long time.

[Matthew Hepner]

It's just mud and then house.

[David Lee Corvo]

It's not like you thought you heard a horse and you woke up and then like this sound stopped. You heard a horse, you woke up. You listen to this horse tear up for a long time and then ultimately it stops. And you're so convinced that you heard this horse that you stay awake until sunrise. Because it's not a. Was there a noise? It's a, someone is clearly here messing with me. So now I've got to stay up.

[Matthew Hepner]

And this could come through the adobe or whatever.

[David Lee Corvo]

Sounds like somebody was the adobo. Somebody is trying to get the horse through the window at one point is what he says. He sounds and he says, here's going back to the. The. The neighbor. The bicycle tracks his neighbor left the day before were still there. So the tracks from the neighbor that came over to talk to his dad for a few hours are still there. They should have been completely obfuscated by the horse hooves and all the crazy activity of the horse and the man that were at the window last night. But they're still there. No horse tracks. But the bicycleta tracks his neighbor left the day before were still there. Mexico has some next level spooky going on. Yeah, I've seen videos of a wailing woman, like, walking through the streets. I've seen it several times. Like,

[Matthew Hepner]

What is she doing?

[David Lee Corvo]

She's crying about something. She's all in white with the long black hair. And if you go to her when she's sobbing, she bfs you. No, I don't think she does that. I don't know really what happens to you. Something bad happens if you go and you try to aid

[Matthew Hepner]

sounds terrifying.

[David Lee Corvo]

So I've seen a lot of those videos though. People just like I. No mama's way. And they're in their windows with the bars on it and they're terr. This woman is wailing, walking through the streets. It's pitch black and. And like nobody's coming out. Nobody's coming. I've seen a bunch of those videos.

[Matthew Hepner]

Huh.

[David Lee Corvo]

That's very common, that. And like that she'll be by Rivers.

[Matthew Hepner]

It's like a chupacabra. That's what it's called.

[David Lee Corvo]

No, Mama, I don't know how to La la. She cries out for her kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's a woman dressed in white tattered nightgown with her hair like the girl from the ring. And she's crying about her children. And if you go out to aider bf'd right there, I don't like it. And then. And then I've seen videos where like, she'll. Oh, la Llorona. Thank you. Jeanette, I believe, you know, because it's clearly Jeanette, but she's Hispanic, so she knows how wise and J's work. I have even seen videos where, like, the crying just turns into like something else, dude, like something terrifying.

[Matthew Hepner]

All the.

[David Lee Corvo]

All the hairs on your body stand up and you know, like, spiritually, this is not. Something is wrong. It just turns from sobbing sounds like a convincing sobbing woman to like a banshee. Like. No, just shrieking through the night like it's the worst. And everybody from Mexico knows about. For the most part, people down there seems to be more acquainted with spirituality. Probably because fly swatting is the main distraction. Oh, in rural town. So there's a lot of witch activities down there. He's saying, like there ain't to do, you know, Fly swatting is the pastime,

[Matthew Hepner]

so you might as well get into La Jarona.

[David Lee Corvo]

As a child living in the same house mentioned before, my dad remembers hearing his woman. Just one woman. Oh, thank you. Not, not. Yeah. Because woman is both anonymous. It's singular and plural.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yes, that's in Puerto Rico's different. Oh yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

Neighbor. So. So his woman neighbor, one of them going out at night into the cactus field behind her house and having conversations. Laughing out loud with some entity. Entity.

[Matthew Hepner]

Huh?

[David Lee Corvo]

Entity. Yes. Chuck from Guam says top has got. Yeah, we actually fired him. Laughing out loud with some entity in the dark. Said he could hear this thing talking back to her. Oh, lots of weird to talk about.

[Matthew Hepner]

That's one thing. If she's imagining it, it's another thing. If the guy can hear it.

[David Lee Corvo]

Mexico is one of those places where, like, this seems like the veil is thin, probably because of the buildup of iniquity, because, yeah, witchcraft is super prevalent in Mexico. Brujaria is super prevalent. Prevalent supervant.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

Prilosec Oct in Mexico.

[Matthew Hepner]

You think there's bloodshed too? A lot more bloodshed.

[David Lee Corvo]

The land is filled with iniquity.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

I think that creates a thinning of the veil. And you. You see and hear and experience a lot more fangs. He says, I've had a few odd things happen while deer hunting. Saw a dead dude sitting on our couch as a kid. Maybe for a later time.

[Matthew Hepner]

Whoa.

[David Lee Corvo]

Thank you. See y' all in the hood side of the kingdom.

[Matthew Hepner]

Wait, what does that mean? He just, like, walked in, was like, hey, what's Bobby doing on the couch? And they're like, no, no, Bobby's.

[David Lee Corvo]

I don't know. We gotta. We'll have to ask him to write in.

[Matthew Hepner]

Okay. So he will see him on the hood side of the kingdom.

[David Lee Corvo]

He says, may the father bless and keep you, Greasy Bear from ar.

[Matthew Hepner]

You can only get a message like that from, like, an NDS person.

[David Lee Corvo]

I love.

[Matthew Hepner]

No message like that would ever be gotten by anywhere, anybody else in the universe.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah. I love what we do, and it's really incredible. Thank you. That's a. That's a. That's a really interesting story.

[Matthew Hepner]

That's the end of it for now. No. Where. What about the horse? Dude? He never went after the horse.

[David Lee Corvo]

You must grab him by his horns. Well, there was no. Then we have a big party. They're talking about the Jews, so. Yeah, I mean, I'd love to hear some more Greasy Bear, if you care to write in, that would be fantastic.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah. Come on, Greasy. Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

All right, well, do you mind if I just keep reading? Because this I. I haven't really. That's fine. Okay. I haven't really figured out. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. How to continue doing this. So email me. Email me at Straight Bible.

[Matthew Hepner]

Or put it on the screen. I'll read it off the screen.

[David Lee Corvo]

Well, no, because it doesn't want to size.

[Matthew Hepner]

You almost did it, though.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, but it doesn't want to adjust the size.

[Matthew Hepner]

So close.

[David Lee Corvo]

It was not really close at all. It was zoomed in times like 200. If only we had a. A tech savvy Puerto Rican here to. To fix this first. Okay. So.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

Okay, here we go. We got a good one. We got a good one here. This one comes from Mike. This one comes from Mike. I mean, I can. I can Here. Here we go. Look at it.

[Matthew Hepner]

And then it's gigantic.

[David Lee Corvo]

Maybe if I do, like a control. Minus. Minus. Minus. Okay. There we go. Yeah. No, no, don't do it yet.

[Matthew Hepner]

Why not?

[David Lee Corvo]

I gotta. If I could just make it a little bit. It's so wide. If I could make it more narrow.

[Matthew Hepner]

There we go.

[David Lee Corvo]

And then we'll go here and that way you can still. Well, you're not supposed to be reading the chat, but you know what I mean? You can still kind of.

[Matthew Hepner]

You can even make it a little more skinnier, too, if you want.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, check that out. Oh, that didn't work.

[Matthew Hepner]

No, no. You got to do the thing you were doing with the. From the right side.

[David Lee Corvo]

From the right side, huh?

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

This is good.

[Matthew Hepner]

What just happened? Why can't we. There we go.

[David Lee Corvo]

Okay. There it goes right there. All right, so here you go. We're gonna read. This one's called Calling Upon Jesus Stops. Another Haunting by Mike. Don't say his last name. Don't dox him by Mike. Don't do it.

[Matthew Hepner]

All right, here we go. You ready?

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah. You know, you.

[Matthew Hepner]

Hello, Top. And David and Matt and Nancy.

[David Lee Corvo]

With the appropriate amount of T's, by the way. Thank you, Mike. For four T's, I will make it known the elite, dangerous. They. They do five T's, but four T's in there, we'll. I'll allow it. Oh, wait, wait. One more thing before we go. We gotta kick out the pores. And then.

[Matthew Hepner]

Where is Nancy?

[David Lee Corvo]

I don't know.

[Matthew Hepner]

I haven't seen her in ages.

[David Lee Corvo]

I don't think Nancy loves us anymore. So. Patreon.com forward slash.

[Matthew Hepner]

It's not that she doesn't love us. It's just that she loves noodles more and just is making a lot of Asian dishes, I think.

[David Lee Corvo]

And Nood are really great.

[Matthew Hepner]

Mike from Missouri Dog. That's who we're reading right now.

[David Lee Corvo]

Is that true?

[Matthew Hepner]

Yo, I just got here and you're reading my story. Wow, Great time.

[David Lee Corvo]

Oh, what a. What a life, huh? Mike from Missouri Dog, Nancy is busy boiling away the oceans. Yeah, she doesn't really boil water to do anything with. She just hates it.

[Matthew Hepner]

She comes.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, yeah. She's been in the Bible study. She keeps quiet. You know, I think we all do a fair bit of keeping quiet. Top was lurking there last time. You yet to be seen.

[Matthew Hepner]

It's on Twitter. Dude, I don't even know how to get on Twitter.

[David Lee Corvo]

It's on Discord.

[Matthew Hepner]

I don't even know what Discord is.

[David Lee Corvo]

It's fair.

[Matthew Hepner]

Is Discord like Twitter.

[David Lee Corvo]

No, Discord is like Patreon signal or telegram. It's a. It's a. It's a. You know, it's a text.

[Matthew Hepner]

You're just texting on it.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, but there's also, like, video because they're doing, like, blue letter Bible. They're pulling up. They're crushing Trevor Macy, Cherry Bear, Sparrow. Sparrow's in there.

[Matthew Hepner]

Crush. Dude, I know everybody in the Patreon,

[David Lee Corvo]

like, crushes Sparrow be asking questions. And I'm like, that's a good question.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah, she's on it.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, she's a woman, but she's got a lot of questions. And what's the issue?

[Matthew Hepner]

Like, what do you mean? Because, like, normally women are not that.

[David Lee Corvo]

No, it's just like, you don't let them talk. You don't let them, you know, do stuff like that. But then, like, she. You do let her talk and she asks. Asks a question and you go, wow, yeah, what a question. She's got a bunch of them.

[Matthew Hepner]

You're saying that like, normally they should be, like, cooking.

[David Lee Corvo]

Cooking, cleaning, shutting their mouths. That kind of really cool stuff. And then she shows up and she asked something that I'm like, damn, I didn't think about that at all. How she noted.

[Matthew Hepner]

Sancho, that is not true. Not what? I haven't whispered one word about. About our secret.

[David Lee Corvo]

You have secrets with secret? With Scott?

[Matthew Hepner]

Not one word.

[David Lee Corvo]

Have you seen his picture?

[Matthew Hepner]

No, I don't want to see it.

[David Lee Corvo]

Hey, Scott, send me that picture. I'll forward it. Okay. So here. Let's go read the thingy.

[Matthew Hepner]

Hello, Top. And David and Matt and Nancy. I love NDS and straight Bible. Please don't ever stop. Hell yeah. My story isn't insane. Well, we'll find out. We'll be the judge of that. But it speaks to the power of God and it's definitely paranormal. I started off as meathead kid that never really believed in God. Growing up, I always had sort of an intuition that God was real. So when he says a meathead. Oh, metalhead. Sorry, you're scrolling.

[David Lee Corvo]

My bad. Yeah.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah. All right. So he's like, we don't know what age group this guy's in, but he was probably listening to Metallica, who maybe he's even talking about, like, Corn or, you know, we don't know because we don't know what generation.

[David Lee Corvo]

No, wait, that's that other guy.

[Matthew Hepner]

That's Kid Rock.

[David Lee Corvo]

Kid Rock.

[Matthew Hepner]

He did go on tour with Corn and Metallica, though.

[David Lee Corvo]

Corn is Christian now. Do you know that lead singer Corn

[Matthew Hepner]

converted the Lead singer.

[David Lee Corvo]

Believe so, yeah.

[Matthew Hepner]

No, Maybe a guitar player. Not the main guy. Jonathan Davis, Was that his name?

[David Lee Corvo]

I do believe it's the lead dude.

[Matthew Hepner]

When they came out with that was it Shoots and ladders, that there was nothing that sounded like that. When they came out, they.

[David Lee Corvo]

Oh, yeah, See? Dumbass says. Yeah, well, that's.

[Matthew Hepner]

I thought, I thought it was the guitar player. I knew you'd be good enough. All right, so this guy's a metal head that never really believed in God. Growing up, I always had sort of an intuition that God was real. But Reddit atheism was in its prime and I took the bait. Hook, line and sinker.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, that's something you're, you're unfamiliar with, I would imagine.

[Matthew Hepner]

Reddit is a lot of liberals, though.

[David Lee Corvo]

A lot of liberals. Used to be an interesting place. In fact, cut my teeth in the Reddit conspiracy, our conspiracy section, years and years ago, and that was actually a really great place to visit and since it's gotten very gay and, you know, yada, yada. But Reddit atheism is the birthplace of every soy jack meme you ever see. Like a. It's a crudely drawn black and white image of a dude with a goofy face and he's like pointing behind him like that meme is representative, I think, at least of all the Reddit atheists who everything they say is preceded by the word actually. And it's usually this fat neck, bearded, acne ridden loser with a fedora in his basement who hates God.

[Matthew Hepner]

What is happening right now?

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, Reddit is Canada. If, if it was a social media platform, I would say that's accurate. Yeah.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

So, yeah, I mean, you're probably unfamiliar with it, but it's not, it's not necessary. Oh. Scott says he will not subject you to the pick. Well, right.

[Matthew Hepner]

As long as we're clear that I can keep a secret, that's all I care about.

[David Lee Corvo]

All right, I'll see if I can

[Matthew Hepner]

take that pick up. So growing up, I always had sort of an intuition. I was real, but read it. Atheism was in his prime. I took the bait. Hook, line, singer Richard Dawkins videos, homosexual and that sort of stuff. Stuff. Yeah. I do remember the first time I smoked weed. Yep. With my brothers.

[David Lee Corvo]

Wait, no, it's an er. It's an er. He knows his. For his. His. His genetic.

[Matthew Hepner]

No, no, he's saying I smoke weed with my brothers.

[David Lee Corvo]

No, no, no, no, no. It's an ers. He's talking about his genetic siblings.

[Matthew Hepner]

All right, all right, though I Felt totally morally corrupt and downloaded a Bible PDF. No way, man.

[David Lee Corvo]

After you smoked weed, you. You downloaded the Bible?

[Matthew Hepner]

That's weird.

[David Lee Corvo]

The first time you felt that gross. I'll tell you what, in my years of smoking weed was. It was. I would feel gross.

[Matthew Hepner]

Really? Yeah. Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

I would have to, like. I would watch take showers. Oh, really? Felt gross.

[Matthew Hepner]

I never got like that. I just would get the munchies, dude. Oh, yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

I would tear up, dude. For sure. For sure, for sure.

[Matthew Hepner]

Let's see here.

[David Lee Corvo]

I believe it's right here.

[Matthew Hepner]

My brother's dough. I felt totally morally corrupt and dialed into Bible PDF. I never read it after that night, though. I was probably 16 when that happened. Anyways, my little brother always thought that the house we grew up in was haunted, But I always brush it off. I'd be playing Xbox in my room late at night, and the door to my room would unlatch and swing open. That's a pretty good clue. That on there's haunting, right?

[David Lee Corvo]

Not good, dude.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah, I would think, like, if the latch. Yeah, the room would. The door would unlatch and swing open.

[David Lee Corvo]

That's a problem. Unlatching, maybe an extra layer of.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah, it's not like it was open and, like, the wind just kind of blew it open a little more. Yeah, specifically, unlatch and open.

[David Lee Corvo]

Z man says Raven would smoke weed, pass out, and wake up feeling gross and walking like he rode a horse. That's not true, Z Man. That's not true. And I don't appreciate that. And you're spreading unfounded lies about me.

[Matthew Hepner]

I don't like that.

[David Lee Corvo]

That's not true. I would smoke weed. I would eat a lot of stuff. Weed, in a lot of ways, opened me up to Gnosticism in the new Age. Not because I. I. They just opened my mind to, like, a new way of thinking. And I'm not mad at it. I mean, it all ultimately got me here. But I just find that fascinating, that correlation. When I was, like, feverishly conspiracizing on the interwebs, I feel like it just

[Matthew Hepner]

opened me up to, like, the munchies. Old English forties. And maybe, like, Keystone Light is kind of really what it opened me up to. But anyway, it'd always give me the chills. But my retays ass was always, like. It was probably something with humidity.

[David Lee Corvo]

He says retard.

[Matthew Hepner]

I thought it said retays. Like glaze.

[David Lee Corvo]

You could see it. It says it right there.

[Matthew Hepner]

I'd always give me chills. But my retay's ass. No, that's not like it was probably something with humidity in a slight breeze creating the right conditions to barely unlatch the. Unlatch the door and open it. Looking back, that made no sense whatsoever. And I just had those blinders over my eyes like that 2 Corinthians 4. 4 talks about. That's when it says that Satan has blinded the eyes of those that don't believe.

[David Lee Corvo]

That's interesting. We're just kind of talking about that. In the previous discussion with Otis.

[Matthew Hepner]

You really love those episodes.

[David Lee Corvo]

He did. I will say Otis. Bruce said, come on, somebody. And he said it, I think six times.

[Matthew Hepner]

No, one time today, dude. Oh, and he got the look from you.

[David Lee Corvo]

No, no, no, no, no. He said it six times. And the reason that I didn't say anything is because the first three times he said it. I didn't want to derail where the conversation was going because it was really. Would you.

[Matthew Hepner]

What about the second three?

[David Lee Corvo]

I just allowed them. No, I just allowed them.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah. At some point, it's like, this guy's doing good. Do I really want to pick Adam? But you just feel like it's really cringe. It spread like wildfire in that community now, too.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah.

[Matthew Hepner]

Anyway, where are we at? Okay, so he was blinded.

[David Lee Corvo]

He was blinded.

[Matthew Hepner]

We all are, man. Anyways, years passed, and I found Jesus.

[David Lee Corvo]

Sorry, give me a second. Let me adjust it for you. Okay.

[Matthew Hepner]

I came to Jesus in a roundabout way after going deep into conspiracy theories which all point back to Jesus because he's literally the truth.

[David Lee Corvo]

I appreciate that, because that's something that Sam Tripoli says as well. If you are, let's. Let's get away from the term conspiracy theorist, because that's gay. If you are earnestly pursuing the truth, then you're going to end up at Christ.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah, but conspiracy theorists just now just means, like, oh, like, you get it. Like, you're.

[David Lee Corvo]

Now it's. Now it's something different. It's like it used to mean pursuit of the truth. Maybe not. Maybe not. Maybe there's no.

[Matthew Hepner]

It used to mean, like, you thought it was somebody who's, like, kooky, that's just looking for something that's not there, that doesn't exist. It just wants to. And it's like now when you say that, it's like. Oh, you mean somebody who just knows what's up.

[David Lee Corvo]

Up. Yeah. Knows what's up is even. Like, that's subjective. Right.

[Matthew Hepner]

True.

[David Lee Corvo]

And it just depends on, like. Well, what. What are you talking about? You talking about, like, the JFK assassination? You're talking about the moon landing. Are you talking about? What are you talking about? I think that is different than somebody who is passionate about pursuing the truth in all things. Right. Because ultimately, conspiracy is all things. If you're going to. I was listening to Karen Wilkinson on Tony Merkel's podcast. And. And Tony wasn't talking to him. It was actually this other guy, Derek, I think, or something like that. And she. He's talking to Karen Wilkinson, and. And she's, you know, works with La Marzulli, alien abductee, experiencer, yada, yada, yada. And, you know, the. The. Throughout the conversation, there's so many branches where it can go, because it truly is like, it's not just about aliens. And if it's. If God is your focal point, then you're trying to explain everything. Everything. It's a story of everything. Every conspiracy, every aspect of reality that you could possibly. If you're just talking about the studies, it's going to go into mathematics and science and all these other things and art and yada yada. But if you're talking about conspiracies, it's going to go into the music industry and. And the Jews and the wars and the. And the this and that and the COVID and the blah, blah, blah, ever, ever.

[Matthew Hepner]

So. And it all comes back to the scripture teaches that there are entities in the unseen realm. Puppeteering, if you will. The things happening down here.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah.

[Matthew Hepner]

All the things you just named.

[David Lee Corvo]

But then it becomes like, you know, tell me about it then. And it's like, which part? Yeah, which part, dude?

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

Because it's everything. It's absolutely everything. So, yeah, being a conspiracy theorist is like. I don't know if you're just. You think the Charlie Kirk assassination is suspect, does that make you a conspiracy theorist? I don't think it does.

[Matthew Hepner]

Is. Well, no, it just means totally blinded. Like a normal person just says, well, whatever they told us on the news, that's what happened.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah. And then a conspiracy theorist is somebody who's like, yeah, maybe it's something different than what they told us on the news, but I might be wrong. The other guy might be right, but, like, it's definitely not whatever they told us on the news right now. That.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, yeah. So there's. There's maybe. I don't know, it just feels like there's a different word for it. Is it Christian? I don't know, but it's like, that's not the same thing as is maybe what we're doing here on the show.

[Matthew Hepner]

Okay, go on Anyways, years passed and I found Jesus Christ. I came to Jesus in a roundabout way after going deep into conspiracy theories which all point back to Jesus because he's literally the truth.

[David Lee Corvo]

There we go. Oh.

[Matthew Hepner]

But before that, and on a Jerry Marzinski related side note, I used to be a total degenerate.

[David Lee Corvo]

One to mention Marzinski. Second email.

[Matthew Hepner]

Huh. I used to be a total degenerate and was doing cocaine with my girlfriend once after a night of drinking.

[David Lee Corvo]

Nice.

[Matthew Hepner]

I was giving her a piggyback ride on the street. And my drunk ass tripped. And we both hit the pavement. My head took most of the impact. A few minutes after that, I felt a rage come out of nowhere. I wanted to kill people at random for no reason at all. The hell, that probably lasted for an hour or so. When I woke up the next day, it totally went away. Huh.

[David Lee Corvo]

And I doused you and see, never

[Matthew Hepner]

had that feeling before and haven't since. But I thought I was possessed for a minute. Maybe between, like, the heavy metal and the cocaine. Yeah. And the drinking. And that just gives something a foot in. And maybe it sounds like maybe he never was. Like a hot temper. It just all of a sudden happened.

[David Lee Corvo]

That is strange. I remember when I was younger, I did. I had a little spree with cocaine. And one day my wife came to me and she said, hey, when you're on it, I don't like it. I don't like. Like the way you look because I get. My face was like cocked to one side or whatever. I was trying. I was trying to look normal. And she go, like, I don't want you to get addicted to this. And. And I said, I think it was the only time I ever had, like, something that exposed itself as a problem with drugs. Like, I saw it in this moment where I said, like, I. Addicted to it. I don't even really like it.

[Matthew Hepner]

I know. But there was a weird thing with some drugs. Like, I can kind of relate to that. Like, I didn't really like it, but I kind of don't want to stop doing it, though.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I said that. That I think as I. I think I probably really did like it. Like, I think I liked it a lot.

[Matthew Hepner]

I remember feeling like that about coke. Dude. It was like, I don't really love this. Like, it doesn't make me feel great,

[David Lee Corvo]

but it can't make you want to do it.

[Matthew Hepner]

Stop doing it.

[David Lee Corvo]

I still have it to this day where, like, I can smell something. The.

[Matthew Hepner]

In the ink immediately.

[David Lee Corvo]

No, no, no.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

The indescribable smell of cocaine doesn't make

[Matthew Hepner]

you have to take a dump immediately.

[David Lee Corvo]

No. I had friends that were like. Like, they just immediately go straight to the bathroom.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

And. And then take a dump for a long time. I wasn't like that. But I also had, you know, you say a ferocious appetite for oxycontins. I had a ferocious threshold for cocaine where I. I was doing tremendous amounts of it, you know, not often, but on the occasions that I would. A lot of it.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

And then. And then just being Okay.

[Matthew Hepner]

I never got to where I liked doing it in the morning. I remember, like, a couple times doing it in. But, like, I had buddies that wanted to just do it all day. Like, I never got to where I was like, yeah, let's do it in the morning.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was.

[Matthew Hepner]

It was always like, let's do it at night and then drink, like 30 beers and still not be.

[David Lee Corvo]

That was.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah, that was crazy.

[David Lee Corvo]

I was using it as, like, a remedy. Like, ah, I'm too drunk. It's time to do cocaine.

[Matthew Hepner]

About that.

[David Lee Corvo]

And that helped quite a bit. I just saw top entered the thing, so I'm waiting to see if something.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah, let's let him talk. Can he talk?

[David Lee Corvo]

I don't think he can talk. I think he's in a pool. He's in the pool.

[Matthew Hepner]

Something.

[David Lee Corvo]

It's going to be about the Orthodox.

[Matthew Hepner]

Say something.

[David Lee Corvo]

All right, here we go.

[Matthew Hepner]

Wait, I didn't get the bottom of that last paragraph.

[David Lee Corvo]

Oh, my mistake. No, this is not.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah, that probably lasted for. Yeah, that probably lasted for an hour. So when I woke up the next day, it totally went away. I never had that feeling before and haven't since. But I thought I was possessed for a minute. Lights would flicker all the time around that same girlfriend, and I always thought she had some demons around her, too. But that night, I think I was possessed. Well, that could be it, too.

[David Lee Corvo]

Interesting.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah. Women and piggybacking.

[Matthew Hepner]

I mean, I don't know what that was. Whatever you got, I got.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, that's women.

[Matthew Hepner]

Okay. Anyways, back to the meat and potatoes. My stepdad died from cancer in that same house I grew up in. After he died, the paranormal activity skyrocketed. A planter's pot my mom had out on the patio just straight up exploded one night while my mom was home alone. Damn. You don't think that's the neighbor kids hitting with a BB gun or something?

[David Lee Corvo]

Maybe I got my kid a slingshot. You think that's the wrong move?

[Matthew Hepner]

No, I think it's a great move, but you gotta watch them. Yeah, I used to have a BB gun and shoot stuff on people's roofs.

[David Lee Corvo]

He's got like a pump rifle.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

You know what I mean? Like a. I don't know.

[Matthew Hepner]

So I had a really. I don't even know what you'd call it, but my neighbor next door that I learned flooring from. Yeah, Mike Marshall.

[David Lee Corvo]

Shout out to Mike Marshall.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah. Taught me flooring. Taught me like I was a carpet installer. At 16, I went to work with him. I told the story. I went over there to tell him that, you know, he had stuff in his.

[David Lee Corvo]

That's right.

[Matthew Hepner]

Anyway, so I used to drink 40s in the backyard and shoot birds on his roof with a BB gun. Just because I was an idiot. There wasn't. I didn't really have like a. I didn't really have any good reason for that.

[David Lee Corvo]

You know that the most popular orthodox saint is open homosexuality on it.

[Matthew Hepner]

Oh, geez. He came home one day and found all the dead birds on his roof

[David Lee Corvo]

and just knew it wasn't me somehow. You just killed all the birds? How old were you?

[Matthew Hepner]

I had to be like 15, 16, 17.

[David Lee Corvo]

I never did that. I never killed small animals. Shame on you.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah, that was really stupid. I look back, I just said.

[David Lee Corvo]

For me, I. I don't. I feel like I'm not gonna kill anything. I'm not gonna eat, but I feel like we had a grapefruit tree.

[Matthew Hepner]

I would grab grapefruits off it and like throw it at other houses, like try to hit windows. Yeah, dude. I look back, I was just an idiot. It.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, I did have a lady that lived behind me and I guess, you know, I don't. I don't know when the. She was getting up early in the morning for work. I was working the night shift, so I'd be sleeping in the morning and she'd be getting ready and her dog was annoying her. So she would put it out in the backyard. And at 5:30 in the morning, this dog would just bark, bark, bark, bark rhythmically. Bark, bark.

[Matthew Hepner]

So maybe you shoot that one with a BB gun, like a 20?

[David Lee Corvo]

No, I never shot the dog. But. But I first went over, I wrote a. A note and I. And she would leave it out there for 45 minutes. 45 minutes of it barking straight. It was insane. So I went around and I said, hey, this is your neighbor. I work nights. You know, the dog is a real problem. I'm asking if you could please do something about it. And she never minded it. She didn't know who sent it. I left, you know, kind of an anonymous style thing. But after a couple of days of her not adjusting that. That I had my slingshot and I leaned out the window and I would just. I took out her windows. I put endless amounts of holes in her vinyl siding with the. Like the whole thing was peppered or all her windows were out. All of her vinyl siding. And then the dog stopped coming out and barking. No way. Yeah, man. I don't give. That was. When I'm not a cranky guy.

[Matthew Hepner]

Howl. Yes, you are, you son of a guy.

[David Lee Corvo]

If mess with my sleepy time, though.

[Matthew Hepner]

Wait, how old were you when you.

[David Lee Corvo]

I. I was. I was maybe 21, 22, something like that.

[Matthew Hepner]

Really? And you tried the right way? You're like, I tried the right way. You don't want to do the right way. Then.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, man. And I. It's like steel ball bearings. And I just blasted all of the siding. I blasted all of her windows. She had four windows on the back. All of them went out. I said, that's it, man. And the angle that I was at and the distance that I was at, like, could have been anybody that did it.

[Matthew Hepner]

It really.

[David Lee Corvo]

So she never like.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah, I guess I should have kept this.

[David Lee Corvo]

Should have kept it, dude. Should have read that note and appreciated the, you know, the approach on the matter. And then got your. Busted out. Yeah.

[Matthew Hepner]

There you go.

[David Lee Corvo]

Okay. So is this. Yeah.

[Matthew Hepner]

We used to put pennies on rail tracks for fun. To see him get flattened or.

[David Lee Corvo]

That's fun.

[Matthew Hepner]

Or put the bar across it and somebody stand on each side. It makes the. It makes the thing go down at the. At the street. Street. Yeah. If you put a. If you put a metal bar down on a railroad track and you stand on each side of it. Oh.

[David Lee Corvo]

Because it's completing the circuit and the

[Matthew Hepner]

sensor thinks that it's a train. And then the. And then the things go down at the street. Yeah, we used to do all kind of stuff.

[David Lee Corvo]

That's funny. That's terrible.

[Matthew Hepner]

I know. We used to throw big rocks. The big railroad rocks off like the bridges when the cars would go. Yeah. It was just a terrible kid.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah. Yeah, me too, dude.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah, One time, like, I don't know why even the other kids were like, yeah, man. I just remember I went back for a funeral when I was a grown up and one of the other kids I grew up with was like. Like. Yeah. I just remember Matt, like kicking over garbage cans on the way to school.

[David Lee Corvo]

The Orthodox church is Antichrist. We're just getting these really cool tickers. Who's doing that? I don't know. So. So when I was younger and I was homeless and I had an appetite for destruction, especially when you're homeless and you ain't got to do. Feels like you do a lot of, you know, bad things. So one night I went out, it was, it was real late. And I used to go pulling door handles to find stuff. And I don't even know where the statute of limitations on, on, on, on. Hypothetically, if one were to, let's say, find a, a car and open it and find all of a police officer's gear and guns in it, I don't know what that would be. Might be a problem for them for many years in the future. So if they did that, they shouldn't talk about it. But I was, I used to pull car handles and get money and all kinds of stuff. Just walk around at night and just pull, pull, pull. And then the alarm would go off and you'd run a few blocks down and then do it again. And, and one night in particular, we just hit the town and we're walking, me and my cousin and a buddy, we come across the construction site. There's rebar and there's trucks and we just take the rebar and start spearing radiators, you know, through, right through the front grill of the trucks. And you know, all the coolant is pissing out of everything. And we keep walking. We trash everything at this construction site. All these vehicles. Now the windows are busted out and everything. And then we get to a Dunkin Donuts and I'm like, I'm so, you know, gonna get in this Dunkin Donuts. So I climb on top of the roof and I can pull the top off of this ventilation where the fan is. And I start stomping and stomping until the fan falls through into the ground. And then I get inside the cooler of the Dunkin Donuts.

[Matthew Hepner]

It wasn't that bad, man.

[David Lee Corvo]

And I start taking all the milk and all the. Because I was. It's just a dairy cooler, so there's no, there's no product dumping milk everywhere, like all over the shop. And then, and then I get out of it and I go to the bat because I got a piss now. And I go to their bathroom, but it's night time and of course it's locked and it's got an L shaped handle like the one in that door. So I try it and it doesn't open. So I just crank it and rip the handle off. And then I start going to every handle that's there and cranking and ripping the handle off the doors and. And then we start walking back and I hear the sirens coming, and so we, like, hop down off the bridge, hop off the side of the bridge. Bridge. Land down next to, like, the turnpike. And then I'm just running on the side of this highway to get home to, like, take a shortcut or whatever. But yeah, man, we used to go out and just got away. Oh, yeah, dude.

[Matthew Hepner]

I remember hiding in, like, ivy. Like, ivy. And people's cops were like, yeah. Or running in behind bushes and standing up, like, behind bushes, and cops are driving by, and you're just like, don't move.

[David Lee Corvo]

Whatever it took. Whatever it took for no reason, stupid. For no reason at all. That's just. Just.

[Matthew Hepner]

It's just. But I guess if you have a dad that's like, hey, bro, let me show you, like, how you should do life then.

[David Lee Corvo]

You know what?

[Matthew Hepner]

My dad showed me like, that.

[David Lee Corvo]

My dad showed up one time when I was a teenager. I hadn't seen him for years. He showed up on, like, Halloween, the week of Halloween maybe. And he took me and my little brother around town, the town that I lived in, so it wasn't his problem after he left. And he taught us to destroy people's Halloween decorations. So we would just run up on their lawn, rip their. Out of their ground, those inflatable goofy things. We'd knife them and rip them open and stomp out lights and tear down.

[Matthew Hepner]

Let's go.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yep. And then we'd run away, and then we'd find another place that we'd do it again.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

And we just went around and destroyed with my dad. All right, so let's. Let's get back to this.

[Matthew Hepner]

Act like we're not psychopaths.

[David Lee Corvo]

Get back to this story, dude, man. All right, so back to the meat and potatoes. Okay. He said his dad died of cancer. Skyrocketed, started flickering. We were kind of like, yeah.

[Matthew Hepner]

Another time we were working on finishing the basement, and my mom, brothers, and I were talking about our stepdad under one of the lights in the basement and started flickering and never flickered before, and it hasn't since then, mind you. My entire family is basically non believers, so they always dismiss this stuff. Some time passes, and another time, I'm with my younger brother and mom at her house. We're joking around in the kitchen, and I said something about Jesus. I can't remember exactly what it was, but my brother made some kind of rude comment about Jesus in a dismissive mocking manner. We then walk into the living room. There's a wall of family pictures in the living room. And my younger brother notices that the picture with only him in it is obviously tilted. None of the others were. There were probably 12 separate frame pictures on the wall, all square with each other. Only his was tilted and it was in the middle row. So if something bumped the wall, you'd think others would be off axis as well. When discussing this, my brother also said that after he made that rude comment about Jesus that he heard a weird bang in one of the upstairs rooms. My mom and I didn't hear it, though, which is weird. The good thing about that event is that. That I think it freaked my younger brother out because he couldn't explain it away.

[David Lee Corvo]

It's one of those things where, like, spooky stories or spooky moments actually do bring you closer. I don't know if it brought his brother closer.

[Matthew Hepner]

But you know what I wonder now?

[David Lee Corvo]

What you wonder now?

[Matthew Hepner]

Do I have any stories like this? And I just, like, wrote them off too.

[David Lee Corvo]

I think we all do. This is what I found, is we all have these stories. It's just when you don't have. There's nothing else to talk about, reference point for.

[Matthew Hepner]

Like, when I was a kid, I'm guessing there was, like, crazy stuff that happened, but I was like, well, yeah, it's clearly not paranormal, because that doesn't exist.

[David Lee Corvo]

So it doesn't. There's no. There's nothing to expand on. So there's no, like, anchor, you know, to. To latch onto and go back to.

[Matthew Hepner]

And sometimes I read these. I'm like, if all these people have these stories like this, like, I had to have stories like that. I just don't remember.

[David Lee Corvo]

That's my thinking, is that we all do. It's just like. Remember one time, I think when we were. When we had first started doing content together and we were doing the Book of Daniel, built study. And I said, what's remarkable is the things that God saw fit to main, like to preserve about Daniel's story were all supernatural things.

[Matthew Hepner]

Right.

[David Lee Corvo]

Whereas we move through life, a supernatural thing happens and we tend to forget about it.

[Matthew Hepner]

Right. The bigger thing is, did I get a raise? Did I get a big job?

[David Lee Corvo]

Exactly.

[Matthew Hepner]

There's none of that. But Daniel. It's just.

[David Lee Corvo]

But for the Bible, it seems to be those are the most important parts. What so many of us have had experiences that either should have been expanded on and should have been cared about more and maybe even from a spiritual point of view were the most significant footnotes of our. Of our story here. And we've kind of moved past them, you know, like, if they were to. If we were characters in the Bible, what would God see fit to preserve about our stories?

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah, that's what I always wonder is

[David Lee Corvo]

like, might be the weird.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah. There could be 20 years of stuff that God, like wouldn't input of your life in the Bible. And then boom, there's this thing. Yeah, it could happen any day. Yep. Yeah. Moving on. I used to be big into stunt riding. Hell yeah. Which is basically doing wheelie based tricks on a motorcycle. I'm kind of a wigga. Sorry, bros. That's all right. So it's good. No need to apologize.

[David Lee Corvo]

Motorcycles. Sketchy though. My wife won't let me get one.

[Matthew Hepner]

I broke my leg. Yeah, I wouldn't let you either, dude.

[David Lee Corvo]

I wouldn't get like. I would get like an old Honda shadow just to go back and forth.

[Matthew Hepner]

I still. You have some weird stories, dude, of things happening and stuff. I know. If I would trust you on.

[David Lee Corvo]

All right, fine. Whatever.

[Matthew Hepner]

Okay. Basically doing Willie Bass tricks on him. Yeah, he's listening to Metallica. I got you.

[David Lee Corvo]

I could see getting a little carried away with the music.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah. I broke my leg after eating while stunt riding with some buddies one day.

[David Lee Corvo]

He's eating dookies.

[Matthew Hepner]

So I had to get rushed to the hospital to get surgery on it since my leg had basically turned into a noodle. Shout out Nancy. Bleeding a lot after surgery. I was staying overnight in the hospital and remember waking up in the middle of the night with my left arm suspended as if someone had lifted it. Think of like a droopy Roman salute.

[David Lee Corvo]

Oh.

[Matthew Hepner]

But no one was there, bro.

[David Lee Corvo]

Damn, bro.

[Matthew Hepner]

That might have been the pain Medzo.

[David Lee Corvo]

I don't know. I. I always link these stories to drugs. I had that happen, though. And it took like three times in a row in the same night for me to start becoming unsettled in my spirit that something else was happening. Because, you know, you do kind of spasm sometimes. It's not unheard of to kind of throw a whole ass. Roman solution glute. But when it keeps happening. And then I tried to stop it from happening by putting my arms under the pillow. No. Then once. Once. The weight of the blanket kept my arms from doing that. Then my leg got pulled off.

[Matthew Hepner]

No way.

[David Lee Corvo]

And I was like, yeah, that's the story with the whole greasy demon thing. And. And that was really. That was unsettling as well. I was very upset about that.

[Matthew Hepner]

Okay, okay. Rush noodle. Bleeding a lot. Surgery. No arm, but that might was. No one was there, bro. I didn't feel like I was doing it on purpose since my muscles were completely relaxed.

[David Lee Corvo]

I was flaccid.

[Matthew Hepner]

It freaked me out. And I was able to drop my arm fine. After waking up, I couldn't feel anything. I couldn't feel anything holding my hand or wrist either. I tried to brush it off as some sort of weird reaction to the surgery or maybe the drugs they had me on just so I could calm down enough to go back. Back to sleep. Before the surgery, though, I asked a cute goth nurse lady if she had any paranormal experiences working in the hospital. She said yes, and had seen some chairs moving.

[David Lee Corvo]

See that? She touched his pee pee. That's crazy, bro. What the hell? She didn't touch his bp.

[Matthew Hepner]

Well, it doesn't say that she didn't.

[David Lee Corvo]

Hold on. Wait a second. Hold on. We have something very important here.

[Matthew Hepner]

I just saw that.

[David Lee Corvo]

It appears to be. I saw Chuck from Guam.

[Matthew Hepner]

Oh. Cause top's not on today.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, I don't know which one of these is dreams. I'm afraid to press these buttons. My wife, Chuck says, I had a dream.

[Matthew Hepner]

That's kind of awesome.

[David Lee Corvo]

Chuck from Guam says, I had a dream that I. Oh, wait, one more time. That I was walking down a long hallway and kept hearing the strange sound of. And of course I was intrigued, so I had to keep walking towards the sound. There were these pictures lining the halls, and I noticed one was tilted slightly.

[Matthew Hepner]

Oh.

[David Lee Corvo]

Just like curiosity got the best of me. And I walked up to it. It wasn't a picture at all. It was top twerking, and the sound was his ass cheeks clapping. It figures, I thought to myself. And just as I turned around, I saw Raven pissing in the corner. I said, what are you doing? I don't know if this a continuation of this, but that's a wild dream, Chuck. I don't know what it means.

[Matthew Hepner]

Chuck's alive, dude. They had another I. What do they call him out there? The tsunami. Oh, not a tsunami, but a typhoon. Yeah, it's a wami.

[David Lee Corvo]

A tsuguami. Yeah. Yeah. He got blapped up with a. With a tsuguami out there. And it's been a real, real rough time for weather. I think we're about to get hit with a tropical bukake.

[Matthew Hepner]

I like a lot of rain. I'm not into all the wind, but I love when we get the rain.

[David Lee Corvo]

Do you? You're one of those guys that goes, we really needed this.

[Matthew Hepner]

Oh, yeah. Yeah, you are. Well, you know, I mean, dude, if you look at the farm a day after rain, it's like, oh, it's a jungle.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah. I mean, Florida is a jungle. The day afterwards. Yeah. All right, let me.

[Matthew Hepner]

Okay. Shout out Chuck. It's good to see him again.

[David Lee Corvo]

I don't know if that's.

[Matthew Hepner]

I mean, he was gone for a while.

[David Lee Corvo]

That's probably not Chuck.

[Matthew Hepner]

What?

[David Lee Corvo]

I don't know. People just. You can name yourself whatever the hell you want.

[Matthew Hepner]

I totally forgot. They got me.

[David Lee Corvo]

All right, so there you go.

[Matthew Hepner]

Are you sure we read the thing before that? That.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, yeah, that was the goth chick.

[Matthew Hepner]

Anyway, my mom does me a solid and takes me out of the hospital and lets me stay at her house for a few days until I can get around on crutches easier. One night I'm sleeping in the exact same room that my stepdad had died in.

[David Lee Corvo]

Oh, damn.

[Matthew Hepner]

Geez. Same thing happens in the middle of the night. Around 3am I wake up to my arm suspended again in the same low effort, siege hail type of way doused in semen. I don't like that. I get freaked out again. Chills are going down my spine, but I was so tired that I just pulled the covers up over my face like a beat and went straight back to sleep, lol. I never told my family about this, though, until recently, since I know they wouldn't believe me. They already think I'm bad crazy after talking about pizza gang Gate and stuff.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, well, you should go to them and be like, well, what do you think now? What is Pizzagate?

[Matthew Hepner]

That's where they. There was a pizza restaurant in Washington, D.C. yeah, I'm still not clear, but what?

[David Lee Corvo]

Well, they called it Pizza Gate, and I think that was a little bit of misleading. Well, so it was a terminology that was coined and then popularized by the mainstream media who used it as a point of ridicule, much like coining the term conspiracy theorist after the JFK assassination to dismiss people who would, you know, think that there was something up that that's proven to have come out of the CIA. So I think Pizzagate sounds on its face ridiculous, but it is about the trafficking and the sacrifice and the eating of children by the elites in both Hollywood and politics. And, you know.

[Matthew Hepner]

But did it have to do with a specific pizza restaurant?

[David Lee Corvo]

So it had to do with Comet Ping Pong, which is a pizza restaurant. And I think famously, Obama had a party there where he ordered like $14,000 worth of hot dogs or some crap like that.

[Matthew Hepner]

That's your kind of Party.

[David Lee Corvo]

It sounds like a good time, but I don't think it was hot dogs that they were eating. And the symbol for Comet Ping Pong was the recognized symbol for pedophile communications, and that's, you know, a known fact. The FBI released documents that showed that symbol and said that it was correlated with, you know, covert communications between pedophile rings. And. And there was a guy that went and thought that there was or claimed that there was children being held in the basement of Comet Ping Pong and he shot through the floor. That also seems kind of like a patsy, you know, like an MK Ultra patsy that was used to create this big media sensation around it.

[Matthew Hepner]

Look how crazy the people are that think Pizza gate. Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

It seems as though the. The cat was kind of maybe getting out of the bag, so they got ahead of it, and then they sensationalized it, and then they coined the term. So.

[Matthew Hepner]

But then Andrew Tate got arrested for the same thing, but he had pizza in his videos because he was, like, trying to show.

[David Lee Corvo]

I actually don't know anything about that.

[Matthew Hepner]

Like, somebody was telling me that recently, and I just couldn't track with what they were talking.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, yeah. So Michael Manifesto says he shot into their computer room and just so happened

[Matthew Hepner]

to hit the hard drive that had all the information. Yeah, I mean, those things happen. Sure. Right.

[David Lee Corvo]

And then you had James Oliphantis or whatever. Like, ja. Whatever. I. I minced. I screwed it up last time I was talking about this. But it literally means like, boy lover or child lover in French. Like, that's the name of the owner of Comet Ping Pong. They're also heavily tied in with the Podestas, John and. And Anthony Podesta and John.

[Matthew Hepner]

They're tied in with Anthony Weiner. Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

And if you go to Tony Podesta's house, it is one big museum of pedophilia. All of the artwork on his walls is of children being sexually abused. He's got.

[Matthew Hepner]

That's not real.

[David Lee Corvo]

Oh, yeah, dude.

[Matthew Hepner]

There's a human.

[David Lee Corvo]

Not just a human. The brother of, you know, John Podesta. Wait, so I might be mincing those. Yeah.

[Matthew Hepner]

Was in their campaign or something. But so what does he say then? He's like, yeah, man, it's just like, ancient artwork.

[David Lee Corvo]

I don't know if anybody presses him. I don't think. I think when you're that rich and, you know, influential, nobody really asks you. But the other Podesta is, you know, associated with the whole spirit cooking thing. It's one big web. It ties into Marina and Brahmovic. The frazzle drip thing. Hillary Clinton wearing some little girl's face with. I forget the other lady's name. I'm sure the chat knows. It's. It's. Yeah. Skippy.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

There's a horrifying. There you go. Hicktown Honey's talking about it. The audio file of John Podesta. Maybe Tony Podesta. I forget which one's a little squirrely one. That's clearly Chester Bennington's father from Linkin Park.

[Matthew Hepner]

Who is what?

[David Lee Corvo]

Podesta. Dude. Yeah, yeah.

[Matthew Hepner]

No.

[David Lee Corvo]

Oh, my God. If you look at this. Huma Abedin. Yeah. Thank you.

[Matthew Hepner]

Wait, they look alike.

[David Lee Corvo]

You're saying it's insane.

[Matthew Hepner]

Don't turn into that guy. Guy that you guys were just fighting with. That said the Christian Bale is everybody. Because now I can't unsee it. Now it's like Harry Kane looks like Owen Benjamin Podesta. Now the other. The guy who was captain on England the other day looks like Tom Cruise. What's his name again? It's just like. You just can't win with the people looking like each other.

[David Lee Corvo]

There's no relationship. AI is like. There's no relationship. Just show me the images. It's insane. Why is that all blurry? I wish we had a better one. Look at that, bro. You guys can't see this? Maybe I should share it with you guys.

[Matthew Hepner]

People can kind of look like.

[David Lee Corvo]

That's insane. Well, he's an orphan. Chester Bennington, who was creating a documentary about child trafficking before he died. Him and the dude from Soundgarden. How long ago when he died.

[Matthew Hepner]

How long. How long ago did he die? From Lincoln Park. And which guy from Soundgarden? Not Chris Cornell.

[David Lee Corvo]

Chris Cornell was also that. Yeah, yeah. He might have been a.

[Matthew Hepner]

Died like a long time ago.

[David Lee Corvo]

They died. Relatively close proximity to each other.

[Matthew Hepner]

The Lincoln park guy died that. That long ago?

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And Lincoln park, if I'm not mistaken, is a military intelligence operation that has quite a bit to do with children. You know, sort of experimenting on children.

[Matthew Hepner]

Can somebody. Somebody in the chat knows how long ago they died? Died.

[David Lee Corvo]

I have Chester's hat. That's cool. Fj. Yeah, I really like. Oh, so he died a year before

[Matthew Hepner]

Chris cornell, but that's 10 years ago or so, isn't it? I feel like Chris Cornell.

[David Lee Corvo]

This was at the height of pizza gate. So 2017, around that somebody said 10 years ago. And that's. That's pretty much at the heart of Pizzagate, right when it starts to take off. Same week as each Other. Oh, that's even worse. Oh, 2019. Yeah, that makes sense. 2019.

[Matthew Hepner]

Somebody's saying 2016.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, so it was all around that era.

[Matthew Hepner]

But.

[David Lee Corvo]

But they look exactly the same. They look exactly the. It's. It's such a big. And fan. What's the word that I'm looking for? Fascinating web. Was it Hunter Biden or Anthony Weiner's laptop? After being apprehended by police, seven of the police investigators committed suicide. That was Anthony Wieners, including the Chief of police, I believe.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah. What?

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah. And I was. So.

[Matthew Hepner]

Wait, who is the chick that he was married to? Abba Houdin or something like that? Yeah, yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

She was the one that was allegedly in the Frazzle Drip video wearing the little girl's face, you know, Hill. Hillary Clinton was. But that instance right there, the. Anthony Weiner's laptop and the. Oh, it was seven. 2017.

[Matthew Hepner]

Stop. Stop with the creepy music. What's the day today?

[David Lee Corvo]

720.

[Matthew Hepner]

No, that's not today.

[David Lee Corvo]

That's not real. Is that real? Stop it. That's not real.

[Matthew Hepner]

See, this all gets really weird.

[David Lee Corvo]

Is that real?

[Matthew Hepner]

No.

[David Lee Corvo]

July 2017 for Chester. Dude, what day in July? Do not tell me that we're talking about this. You better Google on the day. Dude. No, no, no, no, no. Bennington. I swear to God. Chester Bennington. Death. Oh, my God.

[Matthew Hepner]

God, no way.

[David Lee Corvo]

We're talking about him dying on the anniversary of his death. What the.

[Matthew Hepner]

This is what you get, bro. You start playing games with the paranormal stories and stuff. Next thing you know, weird things start happening.

[David Lee Corvo]

That's weird, Matt.

[Matthew Hepner]

What's weird is that he was 41 in 2017. I always thought he was younger than me, bro.

[David Lee Corvo]

That's weird. I don't know if we have a.

[Matthew Hepner]

What do you make of that, Raven? I can't really listen to Chris Cornell, dude. Those guys all had, like, a heavy spirit of suicide.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, but when he talks, when that. That song, Like a Stone, doesn't that sound to you like. He longs to be in the house of the Lord.

[Matthew Hepner]

They all long to, man.

[David Lee Corvo]

But I know.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah, I know it's not the path they take.

[David Lee Corvo]

That's weird, bro.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah, this is.

[David Lee Corvo]

That's really weird. Nine years ago today, I was out of the game.

[Matthew Hepner]

I didn't even, like. I don't even remember. Like, it wasn't, like, the day he died. I was like. I didn't even hear about it.

[David Lee Corvo]

I really, really like Lincoln Park.

[Matthew Hepner]

I kind of did, too. I heard him on the way to Tahoe one time after just binging all night. And somebody was like, let's go to Tahoe, one of those trips. And somebody was playing it in the. In the truck on the way up. I was like, yo, who is this? This doesn't sound like anything.

[David Lee Corvo]

Turn to your neighbor and sing Black Hole, Son Church.

[Matthew Hepner]

Oh, my God, bro. I know. Those songs are so dark.

[David Lee Corvo]

Oh, yeah.

[Matthew Hepner]

I didn't like Alice in Chains, Nirvana. Like, a lot of the Nirvana was

[David Lee Corvo]

music to do heroin to. Like, I did not like.

[Matthew Hepner]

I mean, but it goes hard is the problem.

[David Lee Corvo]

I didn't like.

[Matthew Hepner]

That's why people like. What?

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, I didn't like it. I didn't like it.

[Matthew Hepner]

I used to love that music. But then when I woke up, I was like, oh, no, dude, I can't listen.

[David Lee Corvo]

I used to. I mean, I still do. I run miles to Lincoln Park. Like, Lincoln park is what I listen to in my headphones when I run. So that's so crazy.

[Matthew Hepner]

A little dramatic, though. Isn't their music a little dramatic?

[David Lee Corvo]

Sure. But I mean, if you. If you start to suspect that Chester Bennington is the illegitimate child of John Podesta and has a real.

[Matthew Hepner]

Might be a little dramatic as well.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah. A real passion for exposing child trafficking. And then both him and Chris Cornell get murdered or commit suicide a week apart from each other during the Heart of Pizzagate while they're both working on a documentary about child trafficking.

[Matthew Hepner]

That's wild.

[David Lee Corvo]

Like, these dudes, if. If that's true, these dudes kind of got a heavy spirit.

[Matthew Hepner]

All right, where do you want to go with this then? If it. This is a very strange coincidence, shall we say, that it's nine years to the day we happen to be talking about it. Like, where do you want to go from here?

[David Lee Corvo]

I don't know. I don't know. That's very. That's very strange.

[Matthew Hepner]

It seems like you know a little bit about this guy's story. Do you want to talk about his story at all? Maybe. I mean, maybe it's going to tie into something else. You're gonna be like, oh, no way.

[David Lee Corvo]

Oh. Points of Authority was lit. Paper Cut was lit. All of it was lit. Dude, are you kidding me?

[Matthew Hepner]

The new singer is a chick?

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Matthew Hepner]

No, they wouldn't do that.

[David Lee Corvo]

Hybrid Theory. The album Hybrid Theory was just phenomenal.

[Matthew Hepner]

I forget the name of the one, but I feel like it was, like, spray painted. I mean, it was the first.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, yeah. That was Hybrid Theory with the, like, the kind of the reaper looking fairy with the. The hat, the helmet on.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

It's not even Linkin Park. They actually know there's a song that they have. It's their hit, I think it's called Heavy Is the Crown. It's kind of a banger. Kind of a banger, honestly. Heavy Is the Crown by Lincoln park, with this new female singer is a banger. I've heard some of the other stuff. Not so interested in it. But Heavy as the Crown actually does. A place for my head Crushes so hard really so hard One step closer Also so hard Place for my head Introduce the rim that they play in

[Matthew Hepner]

the beginning park isn't metal.

[David Lee Corvo]

They're hybrid, dog. I mean, that's. That rap rock, you know, really early

[Matthew Hepner]

rap rock, I never would consider a metal.

[David Lee Corvo]

Well, I mean, some of their stuff is heavy, dude. Heavy. I mean, just like, like, like instrumentally heavy.

[Matthew Hepner]

Heavy, huh?

[David Lee Corvo]

Place for My head is so good, dude. So good.

[Matthew Hepner]

How many albums did they end up having?

[David Lee Corvo]

That's rap Rap, dog.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

I don't know. I don't know how many albums they had.

[Matthew Hepner]

I assume they had, like two or three. There. There's people. A bunch of them.

[David Lee Corvo]

Breaking the habit is a banger.

[Matthew Hepner]

What?

[David Lee Corvo]

Breaking the habit. Crawling. Oh, my God, bro. Linkin Park.

[Matthew Hepner]

Okay, relax.

[David Lee Corvo]

I'm sorry, but. All right, let's get back to this guy's story.

[Matthew Hepner]

Remarkable, bro.

[David Lee Corvo]

I can't believe we ended up.

[Matthew Hepner]

The bottom is still scrolling. I know.

[David Lee Corvo]

It still says something about the. Okay, so here we go.

[Matthew Hepner]

All right. Are we caught up? Are we.

[David Lee Corvo]

Did we read to that Pizza gate and stuff? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Matthew Hepner]

Okay. That took us off the rails because. I don't know, I just. I mean, I know the name Pizza gave. I don't know anything about it. Weird stuff would keep on happening in my mom's house. Like a glass flew off a shelf and shattered in the basement when she was home alone. Also, I'd watch her dog sometimes when she was out of town for work, and my phone would randomly start playing this one particular metal song, which was weird. It was alters and gore by the band called Coffins.

[David Lee Corvo]

Damn.

[Matthew Hepner]

There's been some phones recently that just start ringing. And it's weird that they're just ringing.

[David Lee Corvo]

That's heavy as hell. Altars in Gore by Coffins.

[Matthew Hepner]

I don't like it.

[David Lee Corvo]

Good God.

[Matthew Hepner]

I eventually became more on fire for Jesus, though. And remember watching the End Times Productions YouTube channel? In one of his videos, he had this guy named Josh Peck, not from Drake and Josh TV show, talking about how he was living in a haunted house house. Josh Peck is part of, like, prophecy. Watchers Right? Like.

[David Lee Corvo]

Oh, I don't know. I think that actually is the dude's name from Drake and Josh, though, which

[Matthew Hepner]

Josh Peck I think is, like, part of. Who's the guy? You guys had the. You talked about the star of David, Derek Gilbert. Yeah, he's, like, in that crew, right? Talking about how he was living in a haunted house and made the haunting stop, specifically by praying for a hedge of protection in and around the house in the name of Jesus Christ. So that's exactly what I did.

[David Lee Corvo]

Nice.

[Matthew Hepner]

I prayed to Jesus for a hedge of protection in and around my mom's house in his name. And then all the paranormal activity stopped.

[David Lee Corvo]

Nice dog.

[Matthew Hepner]

I'm talking the light shining into the darkness and the darkness comprehending at night type of stoppage. Total Jesus.

[David Lee Corvo]

W. I. I agree. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Matthew Hepner]

So I highly recommend people do that. If you're being haunted, just make sure to repent of your sins. To. Jesus says, accept Jesus as your Lord and savior and forgive every single person in your life. Top. If you. That's interesting. They added in top right there. Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

That is weird that he said that

[Matthew Hepner]

if you are having trouble forgiving someone, just remember top, Ephesians 6:12. And that those people are affected by demons, too. Great point.

[David Lee Corvo]

You know, I just want to say somebody's saying that Avenged Sevenfold is gay, which is true. And I used to really make fun of them. And then recently, some of their songs came across my playlist while I was running, learning, and I was able to be like, these guys were definitely talented. These guys were talented. I know a lot of the new metal gets a lot of slack. And look, Avenge Sevenfold is singing about some weird, too. They're singing about weird, but they had a sound. When it came on, you knew it was an Avenge Sevenfold song. And they created a lot of dudes that wore aviators and had glasses. I mean, I'm sorry. That wore aviators and had tattoos, and that became a type of dude. And we're all familiar with that dude. I mean, I'm kind of sitting here wearing aviators and I have tattoos, but they were very talented. And I. And I. It took a long time to admit it, and I think it's one of those things where we made fun of Nickelback for a long time. And you go, wait, why do we do that? Nickelback crushes super hard.

[Matthew Hepner]

They do.

[David Lee Corvo]

I love Nickelback. Yeah. I. For a long time, I was like, they were a meme to make fun of. Nickelback was fun, funny, and then all

[Matthew Hepner]

gonna be big rock Stars.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, they crushed.

[Matthew Hepner]

Dude, I thought those songs were all kind of stupid.

[David Lee Corvo]

I mean, sure. But I think they. Like, what happens is if you.

[Matthew Hepner]

That's like early 2000s. Where.

[David Lee Corvo]

Early 2000s. Yeah.

[Matthew Hepner]

But it was like angry rock, and it was like. I don't know, man. Like, what's everybody so angry.

[David Lee Corvo]

I think he was so angry. He had a couple of good songs that were just about, like, you know, not. Yeah. Like, wanting to be a big rock star. It was literally making fun of that Hollywood rock star where you become a fake. Dude. Dude, you know?

[Matthew Hepner]

Okay.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was all mocking it. There's. There's a. A song by Avenge Sevenfold called Hail to the King. I think that crushes. That's a really, really. That's a great song. But, yeah, Photograph is a great song. Look at this photograph. Every time I do it.

[Matthew Hepner]

That's not so lame and corny. Those lyrics are so, like, a kindergartner wrote it.

[David Lee Corvo]

Sure.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah. I don't get so caught up, though. You know what it is? I used to be into punishment punk a lot.

[Matthew Hepner]

What do you mean?

[David Lee Corvo]

Like, punk rock?

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah, but that's very. Like, everybody means something different.

[David Lee Corvo]

No underground, under produced, crappy punk rock. Like, if you listen to Rancid and. And the Clash, you're too mainstream. And you're a. You need to listen to this band that no one's ever heard of that sounds like Dog, but the very nature

[Matthew Hepner]

part of the system.

[David Lee Corvo]

Exactly. And that makes it super cool. And what happened was I realized, like, it wasn't about just enjoying the music. It became about, like, who you knew.

[Matthew Hepner]

Like, okay, but there is an element of, like, if a band is singing a thing, and you're like, okay, this is a band that actually lived through a plane crash and a car crash, talking about heroin overdoses. And so now this song is a lot more meaningful as opposed to, like, oh, these guys are singing about something. But felt like a manager put these guys all together. Yeah. Because, like, he has cool hair and he has cool paint.

[David Lee Corvo]

So what happened is I stopped absorbing

[Matthew Hepner]

matters, like, the spirit behind it.

[David Lee Corvo]

I. People aren't gonna like this, but I stopped absorbing music in. In any real meaningful way. So, like, where it used to be all about the album, and you got to know all the songs on the album, and you got to know the backstory and all this, like, it became a labor. Like, like, music can become an idol, and the whole industry and the story and the. And the albums and getting their next album and knowing all the lyrics, it all become Idol. And. And I could see the worst of it, honestly. The worst of it, I think, is on display in the punk rock community because everything is about your superiority over other fans by knowing the most obscure. So if you know a band that nobody else knows, like, oh, you don't know these guys. It is hipster. It's hipster. And it becomes identity driven. And your. Your weight, your worth as a punk rock fan is. Is. Is determined by. By what band you like. And eventually I just. I backed away from all of it, and I was like, I'm just gonna listen to whatever kind of makes me happy at the moment that I'm listening to it.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

And I don't care. Yeah.

[Matthew Hepner]

Because there was a day where I was like, yo, yeah, AC DC is really simple. But I like it. It's a very simple. Yeah, I don't care.

[David Lee Corvo]

Like, it's fine. Whatever.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

Especially, like, if I'm doing something, because I'm not focusing on music. I'm doing something. So if I was at work and I'm welding and stuff, I just want something that sounds nice.

[Matthew Hepner]

Whatever. Water is, like, crazy crushes in that category.

[David Lee Corvo]

If I'm running, I don't. I just want something that gives me an extra gear.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

That's got a good tempo.

[Matthew Hepner]

Right.

[David Lee Corvo]

So that I can get that extra gear. Right.

[Matthew Hepner]

I do not really care. Their whole backstory when I'm just trying to.

[David Lee Corvo]

Okay, not at all. Not at all.

[Matthew Hepner]

But back in the day, it was like, you posted up in your room. Maybe you were burning a couple, and you're just chilling in the room, and you had the whole album and you listened to it straight through. You couldn't jump around.

[David Lee Corvo]

And then it was like a community,

[Matthew Hepner]

maybe was a little more meaningful. But it's different now.

[David Lee Corvo]

I couldn't. I. I started to dislike it greatly because I had come from hip hop, where I was like, I had to have everybody's album. I had Ludacris's album, and I had the Games album, and I had Jay Z's albums, and I had G Unit's albums. But then I also had 50s albums. M's album. I had to have all the albums. And. And then, like, you went to school and you were weighed by that. You were weighed by that. Do you know all the albums? Do you have. Do you know all the. And then I went to a different place where, like, I was introduced to mainstream punk rock. And I was like, actually, these guys are kind of cool. Blink and Green Day and all these dudes. I go, oh, this is Kind of cool music. I start listening to that, and then immediately I find out, well, like, that's

[Matthew Hepner]

not real punk rock.

[David Lee Corvo]

And I go, okay, cool. So I find, like, Rancid and all this other, like, that's not real punk rock either. So I find, like, Agent Orange and all these other, like, bands that nobody's ever heard of. And then I'm like, well, what about. What about Scott? And then I have to find, like, Less Than Jake and all these bands, and it just becomes, like, this competition where I'm constantly like, oh, my God, I'm not cool enough. I gotta find more bands that nobody's ever heard of. And then what really became true was the more I dug and the more I got into, like, the most obscure band that I could, I was like, this music sucks. Yeah, this music sucks.

[Matthew Hepner]

But it gets to a point where

[David Lee Corvo]

you can't say that I'm cool now because I know them.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

And I'm cool because I know the songs, but this music sucks. Sucks. And I. And once I got there, I was like, I don't want this anymore.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

Anymore. Like, I don't want to do with this. I just want whatever sounds nice. I absorb music literally by the song. Not by the artist anymore. Not by the album, not by the genre. If I hear a song I like, I'm gonna listen to that song and that's it. And I'm not even gonna pursue the rest of their. Their catalog. Scott is why he dresses like that. Went through a heavy SCA thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But it's all ska.

[Matthew Hepner]

It's like.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, it's just white dudes doing reggae, and it all sounds the same.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

It's a very simplistic music form, and it has a very simplistic, dumbass dance that you do to it. It's called. I think it's called, like, scatting or some stupid. And. And it's. It's so gay. It's so gay. And I liked some of it. I was like, oh, this is kind of good. And then I really looked at it, and I was like, it sounds exactly like everybody else. It's just white dudes doing reggae. Gay. Like, I'm not a big no Doubt fan. I. You know, whatever. Like, some of their.

[Matthew Hepner]

That was a little before your time.

[David Lee Corvo]

No, no.

[Matthew Hepner]

I listen, like, the first music video. I'm just a girl. When I see Stefani come out and start dancing around, I was like, bro, let's go.

[David Lee Corvo]

Ganking is so gay. But, yeah, man, some of it's fun. You take it or leave it. It comes across my thing. Catch 22 Street Light Manifesto. Come across my playlist. I'll listen to them.

[Matthew Hepner]

But there was something about where like, hey, the stuff that makes it to the radio is corny and it's accepted by the masses for a reason. Whereas, like, Primus is never going to be accepted by the masses. But it's always gonna bang.

[David Lee Corvo]

But I've seen what it has to offer. Like, you go, okay, let's break away from that. And like, at the end of the day, all that's happened is a bigger idol has been made of those bands and those songs that get radio play than these other things. And the reason that it hasn't been made of these other things is because less people are aware of.

[Matthew Hepner]

Of it.

[David Lee Corvo]

But if you. If you rose it up and you

[Matthew Hepner]

showed enough people marketing, we talk about it sometimes in podcasting, you look at somebody that's got, like, a ton of things, you're like, oh, they have great production value and they have, like, a lot of money behind it. And they have really nice cameras.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yes.

[Matthew Hepner]

Not necessarily better content or worse content,

[David Lee Corvo]

but that's the thing that they're going like, but this thing is better because it looks like and sounds like and doesn't have the production value. And you're going like, in the podcasting world, I don't want to listen to that. I don't want to watch that.

[Matthew Hepner]

Right. I like stuff with good.

[David Lee Corvo]

If your product looks bad and sounds bad, I'm sorry, dude, I can't listen to it.

[Matthew Hepner]

Like, you got to be really good. It's got to be a lot better to still watch it.

[David Lee Corvo]

I. And I also came to this place too, where, like, I used to listen to Sublime a lot. They suck.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah, I never really got into Sublime.

[David Lee Corvo]

Sublime. We talked about that before.

[Matthew Hepner]

And I told somebody the other day that the Wrong Way was about pedophilia, and they were, like, mad at me. And they're like, no, it's not.

[David Lee Corvo]

No, it's not the whole song. It's sure. It's a hypothetical.

[Matthew Hepner]

The wrong way.

[David Lee Corvo]

Gavin, I think it was Gavin have it maybe the. The wrong way is a hypothetical. I don't think that whatever his name is, the lead singer actually did any of this stuff. But it's so strange to sing from the perspective and to make up and fabricate an entire story. I just thinking about this as an adult man, I would not do this. I would not fabricate an entire fictional piece of art about wanting to save a just post pubescent girl girl from A hard life with her abusive family, but then giving in and her weird. What?

[Matthew Hepner]

What? Very weird what?

[David Lee Corvo]

The whole song is about that.

[Matthew Hepner]

Very strange.

[David Lee Corvo]

The whole song is like, I just want to liberate her from her family. And she's getting put into sex, working and stuff. And, like, I just want to free her. But, whoops, I did it too. Believe me. Was tight. It was the wrong way.

[Matthew Hepner]

Very subliminal.

[David Lee Corvo]

Pardon me?

[Matthew Hepner]

Me. Very subliminal from.

[David Lee Corvo]

And we go like, yeah, this bangs like, no. What?

[Matthew Hepner]

I never got into that, man. I mean, they were always on at, like, parties and stuff, but, like. And I was like, yeah, whatever. But I never got in. Like, I don't think I ever owned a Sublime.

[David Lee Corvo]

It's just music to smoke weed to. Just music to smoke weed too. But I'm like. And whatever. Like, melodically, like, it's fun and.

[Matthew Hepner]

And, well, it's whatever. It works in a. If you're in a backyard party In

[David Lee Corvo]

Cali, they launched a bunk genre. What is even the. The genre? Reggae, rap.

[Matthew Hepner]

I think they had a dj. They had a guy that was like, scratching. So I think that. That. I mean, it was still just like a reggae type of rock, but they had a DJ scratching.

[David Lee Corvo]

I just said, like, listening to some of those songs, you go back and you listen to especially, like the 80s hair metal era, and you're like, whoa, what? Like, so many songs are talking about a young girl. Yeah, A young girl. Like, super young. And they'll say they'll drop it every once in a while. They go like, 50.

[Matthew Hepner]

So what happened? Did we just get awake to that?

[David Lee Corvo]

Annie's 12 years old. In two more, she'll be a.

[Matthew Hepner]

What the. Yeah. Did we just get awake to that now all of a sudden?

[David Lee Corvo]

I think so. I think something happened. Top and I were talking about, like, that. It seems they used AI in the Sandy Hook shootings. And. And then if you talk to this chick, Human Vibrations, she'll go back and say, actually they were using it as far back as the. What's. The little girl who was kidnapped and murdered in. The whole world was, like, enamored with it. John Benet Ramsey. And she says she suspects they were even using it back then.

[Matthew Hepner]

How? Like what?

[David Lee Corvo]

Some of the images that they were releasing of, like, families together and stuff to pull on the heartstrings of America just didn't make any sense when you look at them now.

[Matthew Hepner]

Right.

[David Lee Corvo]

But at the time, nobody batted an eyelash. Now you would look at it and you go, that looks suspiciously. AI generated their legs, don't make, make sense.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

You know, like that we didn't have a framework culturally at the time to scrutinize these things. Right. I think it could well be the same thing in the music industry where it's like we didn't have the ability to scrutinize the lyrics and what they were singing about.

[Matthew Hepner]

Right.

[David Lee Corvo]

And you know, I guess it was just culturally acceptable up at the time, but now it's like, I don't want to listen to the wrong way. I don't like hearing that song.

[Matthew Hepner]

Right, right.

[David Lee Corvo]

It's gross, dude. I'm like, I gotta turn it off. So if you're singing something that like, disturbs my spirit and I want to turn it off and what is it about? It's about, about the sexual exploitation of a young girl that even the lead singer, from the perspective of the guy in the story, concedes to having done it himself.

[Matthew Hepner]

That's very strange.

[David Lee Corvo]

I don't want to hear that.

[Matthew Hepner]

And even like, Rod Stewart had creepy stuff too, about underage. Like, it just, There was like a lot of stuff.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah.

[Matthew Hepner]

About that, that, yeah. Like, and all of a sudden as a whole, we're like, hey, hey, not cool anymore. This is not cool.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I, I don't know, man. I, I, I know. Don't, I don't have time for music like that anymore. I don't care about artists, I don't care about albums. I care about individual songs. I unfortunately still have an affinity for a lot of rap from my era, which is music to murder.

[Matthew Hepner]

But you know what we like. Yeah, but what we liked about rap was it was very real. It was very much about people telling a real story about their real life. And not just a real life, but a grime life like they were gonna survive. Yeah. There was something that I think a lot of us could relate to in that.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, yeah.

[Matthew Hepner]

Like, yeah, it's a little different for me. I'm not necessarily like in the hood selling crack, but I am getting up at like 4:30 to go to work and I'm grinding and there's a grind that I have to keep at just to stay ahead of the game. Yeah. Hustle and stay ahead of the game.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah. It is though. There is this, this constant theme of like, murder, you know, and that's like really heavy because I recognize like, a lot of the music, like when I,

[Matthew Hepner]

I, I, well, murder, drug dogs and hoes is like the core of it. And then, yeah, hey, I'm rich and look at my gold chain and my

[David Lee Corvo]

cool car When I fought that. So that picture on the ground behind you is. Is me getting my wrist wrapped for going to fight some other great day.

[Matthew Hepner]

You did great that day.

[David Lee Corvo]

I came out to a DMX song because it was the thing that put you in the mood for violence. The most that I could think of. I forget what DMX song it was. It wasn't like, whatever that is, like Open Up Shop. That one, Rough Riders was it. Maybe it was Rough Riders anthem. Is that the same song? Stop Drop, Shut Him Down, Open Up Shop. Is that another guy?

[Matthew Hepner]

I was never into. It just seemed like. It didn't seem like good rap. It just seemed like kind of like making noises. Like making noises, but not really, like, intelligent rap. Like, I did, like, when guys put. Were intelligent.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Matthew Hepner]

Everybody from Wuang could rap.

[David Lee Corvo]

Eminem was really crazy because it was so angry. Although I listened to one of my favorite songs by Eminem. I think it's his first song that ever got any kind of radio play. It's called Infinite, and it's literally just him doing, like, wordplay and lyricism.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah, he took it to another level.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, yeah. And. And Infinite, you almost don't even recognize it because he's got, like, the voice of a. Of a young man still. I believe it was his first song that got radio play.

[Matthew Hepner]

And somebody just said, deftones.

[David Lee Corvo]

Let's go Deftones. So that. That song, Infinite, if you've never heard. Heard if you've listened to Eminem, but you've never heard Infinite. That is a really, really fun song. First track you think of when you hear Eminem. Yeah, man, Infinite's great. Infinite's really fantastic.

[Matthew Hepner]

So.

[David Lee Corvo]

But yeah, music to murder, too. And. And I remember walking around with my headphones in listening to that and just like, yeah, this spirit of, like, violence.

[Matthew Hepner]

I remember seeing a sermon years ago, maybe, when I very, very first got in the game name, and how this dude, a black dude, was saying how God showed him that, like, there was going to be this musical influence, like, in the hood that was going to specifically take young black men into hell.

[David Lee Corvo]

Oh, yeah.

[Matthew Hepner]

And at the time, all there was was, like, there wasn't really rap. It was before rap, you know, and it was like, maybe Sugar Hill Gang, maybe he's like that. But it wasn't really, like, gangster rap hadn't happened.

[David Lee Corvo]

Sure, you still had.

[Matthew Hepner]

And he was like, what? You know, so it's death metal. He's like, there's heavy metal who did check the rhyme, but the black kids aren't really into the heavy metal.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, yeah.

[Matthew Hepner]

And this guy did this whole thing on how the Lord showed him this was coming and then was like, boom. It's rap music.

[David Lee Corvo]

And it's insane what they did. I mean, they took Tupac. Tupac was an actor. He was an effeminate.

[Matthew Hepner]

Like, like.

[David Lee Corvo]

And then they turned it into this. And I think he really did kind of become it towards the end. I think he really was.

[Matthew Hepner]

But it was weird. It was a hard thing to balance. If you like Tupac especially, like, Ready to Die. When he got out of prison, he had a double album. Yeah. And it went hard, but it was like, yeah, but wait, is this the same dude that was like, he had a great sound, was an actor and was, like, writing poetry?

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, he was kind of effeminate.

[Matthew Hepner]

Talking about his mom, like, after he got rich.

[David Lee Corvo]

Dear Mama was a banger. Dear Mama was a banger. Yeah. Before that they had A Tribe Called Quest and like, that Right. Where, like, that music was just, like, fun lyricism. Yeah.

[Matthew Hepner]

But then there was a time where it was like, to be a rapper, you got to be a gangster, and to be a gangster, you gotta be a rapper.

[David Lee Corvo]

That was so huge. I mean, 90s really birthed it. 80s, you know, 80s, 90s. And then 2000s just took it to another place where, like, they were killing each other in the clubs all the time.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

Killing each other in the clubs all the time. And it was interesting because you watched

[Matthew Hepner]

like, l got took out big L crushed and was gone.

[David Lee Corvo]

My son gets royalties off Dear Mama. Why is that Immortal Technique. Yeah. Taught me about 911 when I was 9 years old. I used to listen to Immortal Technique till I realized he was an actual pagan and effectively a leftist in very many ways. And. But he was rapping about conspiracies. Conspiracies in such a crazy way. So, yeah, I used to listen to getting an episode of nds. What you listening to? Oh, that's funny. I wouldn't mind. Go. But all my perspective on music is from that era. So it would be a short lived.

[Matthew Hepner]

You don't listen to any, like, older stuff. Stuff.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, I listen to older stuff, but not in the way that I listen to that. I have a real soft spot for Fleetwood Mac and Stevie Nicks and that is a witch.

[Matthew Hepner]

Witchy. Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

She is 100 a witch. But she was so in tune with something. She's being moved by a spirit and the songs that she's singing. There's like an underlying thing that this is about. Like, I knew people back in the

[Matthew Hepner]

day that I didn't know anything about that. But she'd come out in like a black, black clothes with the black candles,

[David Lee Corvo]

the black top hat. If you ever watch, you ever watch the Shining?

[Matthew Hepner]

No, but Jack Nicholson.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, yeah. So the sequel to the Shining is doctor Sleep. Fantastic movie. It's horrifying.

[Matthew Hepner]

You love that kind of stuff. I don't watch.

[David Lee Corvo]

I mean I've been exposed to so much of it for so long. But I think the lead character is kind of designed from Stevie Nicks with the top hat and she's like basically a kind of something you might call a vampire. She's been alive for a long time, feeding off of the innocent and. But that black top hat thing is something that comes from. It's. It's a real functioning part of an outfit of a, of a high ranking wizard in. In like the real Church of Satan. Not like the larpy one with the dumb fags, but like a high ranking wizard in like, you know, I forget what it is. It's not called the Church of Satan. It's something else. Might have something to do with Lucifer. But they wear a top hat and they'll paint their faces like a skull. In fact, there's a famous music video with pink. I think it's Jagged Little Pill. Also a great song. I don't give a what anybody says. Jagged Little Pill is fantastic. No, no, no. Jagged Little Pill is.

[Matthew Hepner]

We saw her with Lenny Kravis.

[David Lee Corvo]

That's the album from Atlantis, Morissette. Like A Pill is the song by. I also like at Morissette but. Oh yeah, she's channeling Ranon. Yeah, that song Ran and by Stevie Nick, she admits to channeling Ran and Ranon is a. Is a Welsh witch that was pro, you know, persecuted back in the day and, and she's summoning and channeling the spirit of her.

[Matthew Hepner]

And there's a reason those songs like hit like they're so likable, they're so good. They're. They're done well.

[David Lee Corvo]

Haunting. Yeah, they're haunting. It's a song that's obviously full of spirit. What spirit? You know, that's, that's a good question to ask. But.

[Matthew Hepner]

Well, I mean I think there is a fair statement to be made. Like if music is a form of worship and it's either worshiping God or not God.

[David Lee Corvo]

There's always a spirit involved with music.

[Matthew Hepner]

Not really like oh, what spirit is it going at? It's like, okay, if it's in the music industry, it's not worshiping God.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That it's all music is is created by a spirit or it has a spiritual influence. So, yeah, yeah, it has a. Avenge Sevenfold has a song named the Beast in the Harlot. And they'll. The very notion of Avenge Sevenfold is like a biblical notion.

[Matthew Hepner]

Kane was a venge. I'll be Avenged Sevenfold.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, I think so.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah. So he's got the two wives. He said, I killed a man.

[David Lee Corvo]

And Stevie has teamed up with somebody now I don't even know know. Alanis Morissette is also kind of a spooky, But. But Stevie Nicks, Fleetwood Mac. You look at their album covers, they're in between the Mason Masonic archways, I believe. And, you know, she's got the top hat. They're on the checkerboard floor. Like, it's very occulted. Who's the damn. There was another band back in the day, Blue Oyster group something. Oyster.

[Matthew Hepner]

Oyster Cult.

[David Lee Corvo]

Blue Oyster Cult. Their album covers are insanely occult culted, filled with all kinds of mystery school symbolism. Those guys were doing like that to the public long before anybody knew about it.

[Matthew Hepner]

Alanis Morissette I'm pretty sure is still alive because I'm pretty sure that first World cup game for Canada. Yeah, we were watching. I was like, sweetie, I think that's Alanis Morris that's singing the Canadian national anthem.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, she's Canadian.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah. I was like, I'm pretty sure. And she's like, wait, what? Yeah, she said, I'm pretty sure that's Alanis Morrison.

[David Lee Corvo]

Set I didn't like. So in Dogma, they're asking about Dogma, the Jay and Silent Bob movie where.

[Matthew Hepner]

Where she was God. I was just couldn't think of the name of it.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, of course I didn't like that. I didn't like that she was God.

[Matthew Hepner]

But that movie was hilarious when I was.

[David Lee Corvo]

I gotta go back and look at it because homeboy that played Professor Snape that died a couple years ago, he was Metatron, I believe, which was an angel in that film.

[Matthew Hepner]

I wouldn't have caught any of the stuff other than I thought it was hilarious. I think that's the one where Chris Rock goes, Jesus. Yeah, I know him. He still owes me 20 bucks.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, something.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

I gotta go back and watch it. I don't know how overtly insulting and satanic it was or not. I know that. You know those. Those guys. Kevin James, he's a bit of a leftist homosexual kind of a character.

[Matthew Hepner]

And the King of Queens.

[David Lee Corvo]

Oh, my mistake. Uh, who the hell played Silent Bob? Uh, Kevin Smith.

[Matthew Hepner]

Smith I don't know.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, they were real big in New Jersey because they were. Red Bank, New Jersey. They had, like a whole thing out there. A comic shop in Red Bank. Yeah. Kevin Smith.

[Matthew Hepner]

I don't know.

[David Lee Corvo]

Anyway, I'll watch it back and see what it is. All right, let's finish this. Let's finish this.

[Matthew Hepner]

So I highly recommend people do that. If you're being haunted, just make sure to repent of your sins to Jesus. Accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior, and forgive every single person in your life. If you are having trouble forgiving someone, just remember Ephesians 6:12 and that those people are affected by demonstration too. Also, I just wanted to say that Jesus freed me of my weed addiction too. In case someone else out there is struggling with weed. I couldn't stop on my own. The only thing that got me to quit was directly and sincerely praying to Jesus to remove the desire for marijuana from heart. I think he meant from my heart. All right, from heart. And just like that, Jack, it was done. Let's go. Jesus is truly the breaker of chains. Thank you for all you do. Top David Met and Nancy. Nancy, I believe you're helping harvest souls for God in the end times. Mike from Missouri Dog, let's go.

[David Lee Corvo]

I pray that that is the case. Thank you for your submission. Yeah, man. I would say that I struggled for a long time to stop smoking weed and that the only thing that, like, the final element was Jesus.

[Matthew Hepner]

Really?

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah. Remember I had that weird ass dream where there was that old dog? I had to stab it and kill it and put it down and, you know, it was weird.

[Matthew Hepner]

That's weird. Because I loved weed more than anything in the universe. When I first found weed and I got all the coolest bongs and all the coolest pipes, I'd go to, like, the. I go to Telegraph Avenue and hate Ashbury in San Francisco and Telegraph in Berkeley.

[David Lee Corvo]

Okay.

[Matthew Hepner]

And I'd buy, like, the coolest bongs and the coolest pipes, and I had, like, licorice flavored rolling papers and, like, I would just have, like, a stash. Yeah, I was all in it, dude. And then one day, like. But I never used Visine or pretend like I wasn't high. I was always like, yeah, I'm not gonna pretend.

[David Lee Corvo]

Like, I never did.

[Matthew Hepner]

I never any situation. Like, all my boys, boys would get high and use Visine and try to play it cool. I was like, I'm not playing it cool, dude. I got the munchies and I want to laugh. I'm gonna not stop laughing. And I'm gonna just do all this stuff. And then when I started to have to get, like, drug tested and hide it and stuff, from that time on, I just would get super paranoid every time I got high, but I still couldn't quit. It was the weirdest thing. Like, I hated it and I'd still do it anyway, just with this hope that, like, oh, no, this time it won't be like that. Yeah, Very, very demonic, dude. I didn't know it back then, but

[David Lee Corvo]

FJ says putting a phallus shaped object in your mouth and sucking on it all day is kind of gay. I did have a cigar yesterday with my cousin. That was really nice. Yeah, I. I had this weird thing where it's a little bit more complicated than this, but if I would smoke and I would be in public, especially with people that weren't high, my face would feel dirty.

[Matthew Hepner]

Dirty.

[David Lee Corvo]

And I would feel like I was making a weird face or something. And I really hated to be.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah, I always felt like, hey, everybody can see that something's not right with me. Yeah, I always felt like that.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah. Yeah. And I don't know, like I said, having to wash my hands constantly, having to wash my face. I would brush. I would brush my teeth after I smoked.

[Matthew Hepner]

I never felt like dirty.

[David Lee Corvo]

Like, yeah, I would. I would go and shower. I. I hated it. There was a time in my life where I was still smoking and I hated it while I was doing it. Yeah, I hated it. I hated that it had me, me. I hated that I wanted to stop it.

[Matthew Hepner]

Couldn't stop demons, dude.

[David Lee Corvo]

I hated it, man. I hated it. That's an interesting thing we were talking about with Otis before is this idea of like, you're going to be this. I'm. I'm paraphrasing, but like this representative for Christ. Right, right. And that the more you're in that, the more you will begin to, like, hate your sin.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

And I can very much, much attest to that. Like, the moments where I slip are very remorseful and they, like, sting in my memory when they come up. And they churn my guts a little bit when they come up.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yes.

[David Lee Corvo]

And. And it's not that you, like, completely stop sitting. I mean, I. I go. I'm so much better at all the people.

[Matthew Hepner]

You're saying there's sins that you look back in your life or they.

[David Lee Corvo]

Something. I'll slip, Slip up. I'll slip up, you know, just feel like, oh, yeah, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100.

[Matthew Hepner]

And that's what it's saying when we can't continue in sin.

[David Lee Corvo]

It's that. It's.

[Matthew Hepner]

It's like if we're doing it and we're not doing that, it's like, well, you better double check to see that the word of God is in you. Yeah, his seed is.

[David Lee Corvo]

In fact, it is a groaning like that, that word, groaning.

[Matthew Hepner]

It's like an embarrassed. It's like a. It's like a shameful. It's like, oh, yeah, you just think of yourself and then you, you, you.

[David Lee Corvo]

You come to God in that manner. Shamefully. Like, I. I'll feel that. So the sin is a slippery thing, right? So let's say you up in some way, whatever your thing is, and. And then all sudden, like, you don't want to approach God, but you know, you have to. You, you. You have to repent. But, like, it. It'll create a dis.

[Matthew Hepner]

I don't think. I really. I don't think I ever get that.

[David Lee Corvo]

So the way I like it is

[Matthew Hepner]

like, but I will come to God and just be like. Like, I'm just like. I don't. You do the talking. I don't even know what to say.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, I don't even. You feel. I feel.

[Matthew Hepner]

I never feel like.

[David Lee Corvo]

No, no, it's not that. But it's like, you know, maybe that's actually a personal tendency of mine. Like, if.

[Matthew Hepner]

If I've heard people say that in Bible studies before that they, like, don't take it to God, like, a thing. And I'm always.

[David Lee Corvo]

Sometimes not right away. Sometimes it's like, it'll take like a day or two.

[Matthew Hepner]

What do you mean? To kind of determine was I really in the wrong or was.

[David Lee Corvo]

No, like. Like, imagine you did something and you've got to go tell your father that you up.

[Matthew Hepner]

He already knows, though, of course.

[David Lee Corvo]

So, like, logically, if you. If you parse it out, he already knows. But, like, if you just squash that thinking and just like push it down and delay it, like that kind of a thing.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah, I don't know. I just get. I'm like, if I do the thing, I'm just like, can you please just rip this out of me? Like I said, I just. Yeah, clearly I'm not getting it out of me. Clearly, this is a thing. I don't. Like, can you just get this out of me? Like, do you want me to be like this? I don't want to be like this, God. Like, can you just rip this out of me? Because if my life belongs to you anyway, like that. How long are you. Am I gonna just act like this. I'm doing the best I can. You know, I'm doing the best I can, but that's not enough. Yeah, you just get this out of me.

[David Lee Corvo]

It's. It's so that. That idea of growth groaning is something that kind of like, spiritually groaning, like your spirit groans. That's something that was introduced to me, you know, by the Bible. And then I have these moments where, like, I. I can't. Not even at my own actions. Like, if I'm hearing something like, let's say I'm. You know, there's this song. I forget what it. It's like Red, Red something Supernova. Man, I gotta find the name of this song.

[Matthew Hepner]

Champagne Supernova.

[David Lee Corvo]

No, no, no, no, no. Hold on. Wait. How's it going?

[Matthew Hepner]

How about Chester Bennington nine years ago?

[David Lee Corvo]

That's so strange.

[Matthew Hepner]

Dude, you really love that band.

[David Lee Corvo]

This is a. This is a song that's, like, popular on Tik Tok. I think it's like a red. Red light supernova. Red light super nova falling into me. I probably got this wrong, but it's okay. Red Wine Supernova by Chappelle Roanne. It's a song that's popular on Tick Tock. So I'll hear it. I'll hear it, like, if my wife's on Tick Tock and whatever. It's like a catchy little poppy song. It's very much like that. You ever hear the Pink Pony Club song? The Pink Pony Club song?

[Matthew Hepner]

Are we talking about.

[David Lee Corvo]

I'm telling you, dude. Chap Chap. Roni. Chappelle Roanne.

[Matthew Hepner]

What?

[David Lee Corvo]

Chappelle Roan is the name of the. The thing. So. Okay, first, let's tackle.

[Matthew Hepner]

Okay, speaking of Tik Tok, we have a straight Bible. Tik Tok. You guys got.

[David Lee Corvo]

No, it's not time for. Okay, yeah, we got it.

[Matthew Hepner]

Okay, but if you guys play Tik Tok, go watch the straight Bible, Tik Tok. Gavin, run.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah. So FJ says Chappelle Roan or Rooney or whatever that harlot this is. I didn't know. I'm not absorbing this music. I don't know. So first off, the Pink Pony Club, right? It goes Pink Pony Club.

[Matthew Hepner]

I don't like already, dude.

[David Lee Corvo]

I'm gonna do some dancing at the Pink Pony Club.

[Matthew Hepner]

Listen to us.

[David Lee Corvo]

Just listen to me. Listen to me. Listen. Are you listening? And. And. And it sounds like this fun little, like, teenage, you know, pop song.

[Matthew Hepner]

Can you click on Z Man's comment? Just click on it real quick.

[David Lee Corvo]

No, I'm not gonna click on that. And so it's popular everywhere. You hear it on all these videos and. And when my wife is scrolling through, Tick Tock comes up. Because people will use popular songs as the backdrop for their videos.

[Matthew Hepner]

Makes sense.

[David Lee Corvo]

So it happens kind of constantly. And then one day I hear the song in its entirety, and it's all about, like, this girl who lives this country bumpkin life who feels this calling to la, and her mother is pleading with her and begging her not to go, but she's gonna go anyway, and she's gonna put her high heels on and she's gonna go be a. On the stage at the Pink Pony Club, which I guess is like, a club.

[Matthew Hepner]

And I'm, like, shocked to hear that dude, like, Pink Pony had anything.

[David Lee Corvo]

What the. And, like, the whole thing is just like, sorry, mom, don't give a. What you're saying. I'm gonna go be a horrible. And I'm like, damn.

[Matthew Hepner]

Any of the songs. There was a country song that used to be cool, and Bella had it on when she was little, and it was the girl Miranda Lambert, I think. And she was gonna slit her wrist. And I was like, no, no, no, no, we're not. No, we're not listening to that. We're not, like, letting those words, like, be out there like that. And it was some, like, cool song about how she was gonna slit her wrist. Like, yeah, that's not cool, bro.

[David Lee Corvo]

That was.

[Matthew Hepner]

And it was even country. Like, that's supposed to be, like, wholesome. I guess. Guess.

[David Lee Corvo]

Like, I think there's a song called Ohio Might Be. Ohio is for Lovers by Hawthorne Heights. I only know this because it came up recently. Somebody said, what is the most emo song you could think of? And my wife asked me that. I said, what's the song where they go cut my wrist and black my eyes? Like, what if they fit? No, dude. What?

[Matthew Hepner]

That's Linkin park, dude.

[David Lee Corvo]

That's not Linkin Park.

[Matthew Hepner]

It's 100.

[David Lee Corvo]

Pretty sure it's a song called Ohio Is For Lovers by Hawthorne Heights. But there was this popularization of, like, the gayest ever. And it was all about, like. Like, piss on me, beat me, cut my wrist, black my eyes. I'm a.

[Matthew Hepner]

And. And then you're like, what is this cutting thing? Like, like, the kids were cutting themselves. Yeah. And I had people, like, go look at the demonized man in the Bible. And he's cutting himself. He's out by the. You're like, oh, that's a thing. Like, I never knew anybody that was, like, cutting. But maybe it just Comes and goes in general.

[David Lee Corvo]

You know how weird that was for me, coming from, like, gangster rap. And I moved to a place that was like, kind of, you know, sort of a white neighborhood where emo music and scene music, which is like. I guess emo music was really big.

[Matthew Hepner]

And I was like, I don't even know what emo.

[David Lee Corvo]

I came from a place where everybody was like, their ass is hanging out, they're sagging their pants because they want people to know in prison that they're open for butt sex. And then you go to this place, everybody's wearing their sister's jeans and. Yeah, emo. Yeah, yeah. Emo is the sister's jeans with the hair over one eye. My life was like, so sure. That song, too. The Papa Roach thing, I can't. That song, like, goes so hard. Like, it sounds good, but I cannot stand. How terrible. Cut my life into pieces.

[Matthew Hepner]

That's not the same.

[David Lee Corvo]

That's Papa Roach. No, it's like. That's like emo with a heavier.

[Matthew Hepner]

But it was Christian. They. I remember. I remember back then, people saying, Papa

[David Lee Corvo]

Roach was Christian, Father Roach was. Was a Christian band.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah. And immediately I was like, oh, they suck. Never mind.

[David Lee Corvo]

I'm not even very gay.

[Matthew Hepner]

I'm not even gonna listen to them.

[David Lee Corvo]

So. So this other song that I was talking about right here, it's called

[Matthew Hepner]

Chapel.

[David Lee Corvo]

I don't know. Chappelle Roan, Red Wine, Supernova Magician's Cut. What the does that mean, dude?

[Matthew Hepner]

Well, I'm not surprised.

[David Lee Corvo]

So I'm not gonna play it because it's super gay. And of course, yeah, we will get dinged. But when you listen to it, it's just like this poppy little girl slop song.

[Matthew Hepner]

Sure.

[David Lee Corvo]

But when you come. Come over, it's talking about right there. Where's the lyrics, baby?

[Matthew Hepner]

Why don't you come over? Red Wine, Super Notes.

[David Lee Corvo]

Can I do the lyrics? Okay, here we go. This is the part that.

[Matthew Hepner]

Look how she's dressed. I know.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Something. My mini skirt and go, go boots Just make me want to move. Whatever, whatever. Yeah, yeah. So at some point. Okay, here we go. So she's going on. She's talking about a girl, right? What I like? What you like? Long hair, no bra? That's my of type. Type. And then she goes, want me to you, baby? I really will because I really want to. And I realize as it's like playing. I'm like. This whole song is about this.

[Matthew Hepner]

Is that her?

[David Lee Corvo]

That's a. That's a. That's what's called a Stud, which is a black lesbian that looks like a man. What? Yeah, it's a. You know, so. But yeah, the whole song is just about her being a lesbian and aggressively, outwardly just saying, like. And we're gonna. Because it's great. I'm like, dude, like, these songs are really. I've become such a. Almost a. A boomer in that way, where I'm like, the delivery is. So they mask the most egregious and disgusting under this, like, poppy little filter where everything sounds upbeat and fun.

[Matthew Hepner]

That's wizardry. You don't know what you're taking in, but you're taking it in without knowing.

[David Lee Corvo]

In wizardry, dress it up a little

[Matthew Hepner]

different so it's easy.

[David Lee Corvo]

It sounds like something that you would like. If you heard the noise and you didn't speak the language, you'd go, this is a song for little girls.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah, well, yeah, exactly what they're doing.

[David Lee Corvo]

Like, everything sounds like the music video is like puppies and ponies.

[Matthew Hepner]

And then it's like, kind of.

[David Lee Corvo]

But we scissoring. Oh, no, she doesn't say like that. She says it in even this, like, this voice. It just doesn't sound like that's what you're singing about. It doesn't sound like that's what you're singing about.

[Matthew Hepner]

I know. It's. It's very strange because, like, the American people don't think that they're under wizardry and witchcraft and sorcery, but it's like the most people under the most spells that they cannot come out because they're like, no, we're too materialistic and we're too shallow of people, and everything's about money and material things here.

[David Lee Corvo]

There's no spirit operating so hard.

[Matthew Hepner]

Spirit is making you just materialistic and making you number and number and number to that unseen realm that's just control trolling you.

[David Lee Corvo]

What's up? Mindless Self Indulgence. What did they sing? I. I listened to Mindless Self Indulgence back in the day, but I don't remember what the. They said. It was like a couple of songs that I liked, and it was probably their. Their main ones. System of a Downer Death. I love System.

[Matthew Hepner]

Same.

[David Lee Corvo]

System is crazy, though.

[Matthew Hepner]

Like, where was the guy from?

[David Lee Corvo]

I almost said Lithuania. It's not Lithuania.

[Matthew Hepner]

Something like that.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, it's a. It's a weird place with a funny name where they all eat seeds, apparently. Apparently in one of his songs they're talking about, is it. Which one's the one with the river or One in the river? Than one again after the fall Serbia, Armenia. They're just saying stuff.

[Matthew Hepner]

I don't know what's true, but that sounds about right. I know there was like pogo stick. I remember there was like. I don't even remember all the names, but I had the album, their first

[David Lee Corvo]

album, after the Fall. Hypnotized, Mesmerized. One again again after the fall this song has like some interesting lyrics where he's like. He's talking about a spirit. Life is a waterfall. We're one in the river and one again after the fall. A little bit Gnostic, a little bit interesting. So I gotta find the lyrics though, because they said something. Oh, it's aerials. Aerials is weird because they have that little black eyed child in there and it's really all about UFOs. Life is waterfall. Swimming through the void. We hear the word, that's interesting. We lose ourselves but we find it all. We're the ones.

[Matthew Hepner]

Well, that's intriguing too, because if. If he's talking about the scripture, Jesus says, you must lose your own life to find it.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah. Yeah. So that's what I'm saying. Like the lyrics of this are interesting, but the whole thing is actually the music video is about aliens. And we drink from the river we turn around and put up our walls. Swimming through the void. We hear the word we lose ourselves, we find it all. There's one thing he says about a spirit. And when you lose small mind, you. You free your life.

[Matthew Hepner]

I mean, that could be a Christian line.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe it's not this song. It must be a different song than. It's crazy because it's like. There's no lyrics to this. There's only like.

[Matthew Hepner]

Well, you might have went through it too quick.

[David Lee Corvo]

No, there's like 15 words and then they're. We are the ones that want to play. Swimming through the void we drink from the river. Life is a waterfall. Arrows in the sky. Now that's it. Not a lot of lyrics. Banger of a song. I love System. System is fantastic.

[Matthew Hepner]

Especially if you're about to work out.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah. Heroic suicide. The beginning of toxicity. He says that the toxicity of our city.

[Matthew Hepner]

All right. It was a weird band because they weren't really like. They didn't sound like other stuff.

[David Lee Corvo]

Evanescence isn't like that anymore. All right, you ready to end this?

[Matthew Hepner]

What? No. I don't know.

[David Lee Corvo]

You seem like you're getting sleepy. I saw you.

[Matthew Hepner]

I did a big stretch and a long. The Alligator Rhythm.

[David Lee Corvo]

Oh, they're. They're from Kazakhstan.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah, Kazakhstan. Let's get a pizza.

[David Lee Corvo]

They're trying to build that prison. They're trying to build a prison for you and me to live in. Yeah, it's a banger. Armenia.

[Matthew Hepner]

Okay. Dave will know. He says Bo is half Armenian.

[David Lee Corvo]

Okay. Oh, also, there's a song by Jimmy Eats World that I didn't think. I like Jimmy It's World that much. I thought they had a cartoon.

[Matthew Hepner]

No.

[David Lee Corvo]

Jimmy Eats World has a song that, like, actually goes so hard, Hard. And it almost seemed uncharacteristic of them. And I had to ask myself if I was mistaken in my assessment. Who is Jimmy Eats World and what do they sing?

[Matthew Hepner]

Me. Eat World.

[David Lee Corvo]

Jimmy Eat World. Whatever. Jimmy Eat World. There is a song. The Middle might be the middle now. Sweetness, are you listening? That's a good song. But that's not.

[Matthew Hepner]

There's all kind of lame. Dude.

[David Lee Corvo]

No. Yeah, it's a good song.

[Matthew Hepner]

You're really good at singing, though, and, like, making the song sound like what it actually sounds like. I can't do that. I can have a song in my mind, but there's no way I could make. You know what that song is.

[David Lee Corvo]

Oh, the Middle is not a good song. I don't like that. Well, it's fine. Songs. Let me see songs.

[Matthew Hepner]

Jimmy eats World Tour, 2026.

[David Lee Corvo]

There's a song that's, like, hard. It sounds like AFI. That's what it is, is they got a song that goes hard, hard. And it sounds like afi.

[Matthew Hepner]

Afi. That was like, Pennywise, like the old

[David Lee Corvo]

AFI with Davey Havoc. So it's not. Not the sweetness, is it Pain? One of their heaviest and most commercially successful tracks. It has to be pain, then. It's a good song. I was running and that came on and I was like, oh, dude, how

[Matthew Hepner]

are you getting all these songs when you're running? You just have them, like a radio

[David Lee Corvo]

station, like a Spotify playlist, where I'll just pick, like, alternative hits of the night to 2000s or whatever.

[Matthew Hepner]

Okay. And so it's not like you don't pick all the songs.

[David Lee Corvo]

Jimmy Eat World. Jimmy Eat World. Pain. Is it pain? It might be. I gotta look at the lyrics because it sounds like afi and it goes super hard. Yeah. I don't feel the way I've ever felt. Oh, yeah, dude, this crushes. I gotta see if the chat is if they know what I'm talking about. It's pain, dude. They think it's like old AFI crushes. I like old afi. That Miss Murder. Super good. Gay. Super gay. Immortal, I think is a Is a

[Matthew Hepner]

alien amp farm had like one cool song the Michael Jackson.

[David Lee Corvo]

That's it.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah. Knockoff.

[David Lee Corvo]

I get mad when they come on

[Matthew Hepner]

but I was excited when I heard that song. I was like oh dude, the rest of this album is probably gonna crush dude. If this cover song was that good.

[David Lee Corvo]

It's a. They didn't.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

So pain by Jimmy World if you like afi. You like that there is what was I run into that came on the other day. You said Alien amp farm. I don't like them when they, when they come on I, I turn it off. It's just cuz that one song oh Three days Grace was pretty good. I I like to listen to Kryptonite by three doors Down. Remember that song that was like their hits hit. You still call me Superman if I'm alive in a world where you now

[Matthew Hepner]

dude, I feel like you're like this

[David Lee Corvo]

old man a little bit kryptonite. That's like 2003. I would say only a couple years off the back of 9 11. All right, let's bring this in for a landing. No, we're talking about nothing now. We're not talking about it.

[Matthew Hepner]

Okay. What do you want to talk about? I like what Otis said. He said, what's like a thing that's like really on your heart lately that you've seen in the scripture. Just something from your life or it's got. You've been gone for like a long time, dude.

[David Lee Corvo]

Unk party up.

[Matthew Hepner]

You're gone all weekend, dude.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, I don't know. Nothing really. I mean I, I, I was trying to. My wife was gone. My wife. Hold on. I think we have the button for that. Which one is it? Is it this one? My wife. She was gone for. Careful with those buttons. Don't just go pressing those buttons. Good.

[Matthew Hepner]

So did you unplug it? Was that that wire that you're like what wire is this? I don't know what the button.

[David Lee Corvo]

And while she was gone, I said I'm gonna clean the house up and I'm gonna do some research so that I'm fresh with my mind and I got some topics to talk about. But I really don't think that's that works these days.

[Matthew Hepner]

What do you mean?

[David Lee Corvo]

I think and I, and I and I pray that this is the case.

[Matthew Hepner]

Why would you ever like sit down and prepare stuff? You always just wing it at the last second.

[David Lee Corvo]

Whatever I, I move to is what I.

[Matthew Hepner]

Okay, but what would happen if you did prepare a thing?

[David Lee Corvo]

I don't know. I have done that in the past. And oftentimes what happens is the conversation organically just moves in a different direction.

[Matthew Hepner]

That's okay.

[David Lee Corvo]

And it's just not. None of the things that I've researched are applicable anymore.

[Matthew Hepner]

You only did it on the Raven when you were solo, though. That's way harder.

[David Lee Corvo]

I wouldn't do. Do research on the Raven. I would just pick things and. And we talk about it.

[Matthew Hepner]

Like, if you were gonna do. Like if you were gonna write a

[David Lee Corvo]

book, I would literally only write about my experiences.

[Matthew Hepner]

Huh.

[David Lee Corvo]

Because once you write a book on a theory or something like that, you become pigeonholed into that and then you become married today.

[Matthew Hepner]

So take that out of it. But if you were going to write a book that you wouldn't be pigeonholed to, like, what would be the thing that you would.

[David Lee Corvo]

It would be the. The alien and demon connection. I. On this show, it's old hat, but it's like, I think.

[Matthew Hepner]

You don't think there's any new alien stuff you could find at this point.

[David Lee Corvo]

Well, so this is what I was actually trying to. TLC was a very research heavy show. It's not true. Abba. So what I set out to do was to watch a documentary that got put on my radar, but it's not out yet. So I ended up just watching the trailer for it. I thought the whole thing was out. I was like, all right, I'm gonna put aside an hour and a half. I'm gonna watch this thing saying, try to retain some of this information, see how it fits against what I think I understand. And. But what it was specifically was a new documentary is coming out. It's about disclosure, but it comes from a fascinating point of view. Can you maybe guess whose point of view? What group of people might be sharing their point of view on disclosure?

[Matthew Hepner]

Well, it's already. We already had disclosure. Steven Spielberg.

[David Lee Corvo]

So it's not that. But that was a fictional film and that really doesn't matter too much. Although I do think that it's. It, it touches on this. But we had Age of Disclosure, the documentary that comes from a governmental standpoint. Now we're having another documentary come out about disclosure from a different group of people standpoint. Not a governmental, but the church. Okay. Little elaborate, maybe further Catholic Church. No way. And I go, fascinating.

[Matthew Hepner]

Let's watch that on a show.

[David Lee Corvo]

Dude, it's not out yet. And what they.

[Matthew Hepner]

When does it come out?

[David Lee Corvo]

It's interesting because they, they.

[Matthew Hepner]

For a long time the dudes were saying, like La Marzulli.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yes.

[Matthew Hepner]

Steve Quayle. They were saying like, yo, the Vatican's talking about, like, baptizing. Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

So, you know, after talking to Leo Zagami, he brought that up in a big way, like how the Vatican was, you know, associated with disclosure. And I realized, like, they have kind of taken. It might have been Leo that said this. They've kind of been quiet.

[Matthew Hepner]

Huh.

[David Lee Corvo]

Even though we're really here now.

[Matthew Hepner]

They were talking when nobody else was. Now everybody is. They've gone quiet.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah. So. So I'm waiting for this, like, emergence of the Catholic Church and their opinions as an authority. Authority. All of a sudden, this documentary is coming out and I start watching because I'm like, is this it? Is this the beginning of the Vatican or the Catholic Church coming out of the shadows to express their opinions and ideas about disclosure? And it's only a trailer. I forget what it's called. It's. I have it pulled up on a tab on my laptop. But a couple of the things that they say that are really interesting is they're talking about how it's going to be a moment. Moment where you're gonna have to start to reassess your ideas, but they separate themselves. They go like. Like, Christianity is going to have a hard time with this. And I'm going, catholics say that. Yeah, that's weird.

[Matthew Hepner]

But they're not. They're not saying we're not Christianity.

[David Lee Corvo]

Right.

[Matthew Hepner]

They're just saying in general.

[David Lee Corvo]

I just thought that was weird. Maybe. Maybe that's my own lack of understanding of the nuances in. Because I figured, like, if you're Catholic, you're Catholic, and you don't say that I'm Christian, you say that I'm Catholic.

[Matthew Hepner]

Right. But they're just saying, including us. Us, Christianity.

[David Lee Corvo]

That's what they're trying to say. That's what I didn't like, is like, okay, so you're coming forward as this

[Matthew Hepner]

body of believers comes back to, like, the church not knowing what it believes.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah.

[Matthew Hepner]

It's been showing up to Sunday shows. I don't care if it's five, six decades and still don't know anything.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah.

[Matthew Hepner]

Still haven't been affected by Jesus. Just kind of like hearing some random sermon every week and it's not really, like, connecting. So then, like, when the crazy stuff happens, like, oh, what's our position on.

[David Lee Corvo]

On this?

[Matthew Hepner]

Let's let somebody tell us. Yeah, let's. Let's. Where's the professional in the pulpit? Let him tell us what to think on this.

[David Lee Corvo]

So let's see. Maybe it'll tell me.

[Matthew Hepner]

But that's why one of These things that, like, Jesus died for the descendants of Adam. Like that. Like that's.

[David Lee Corvo]

Yes.

[Matthew Hepner]

Like you wouldn't think that that mattered.

[David Lee Corvo]

I don't. I think it turns out it does.

[Matthew Hepner]

A long time ago, but I was like, oh, wait, I guess maybe now in light of this, it does matter.

[David Lee Corvo]

It's funny because when you type it in. Get this big ass thing in here. When you type it in, AI Tries to go, whoa, are you talking about. About age of disclosure? It's like, no, but close. It's called not of this world. Catholic faith in the age of Disclosure. And I think these, these things come out. Dude, I'm not sure. Maybe I could dupe. Click on that. And U. S. Cardinal exorcist should be private remove. Nope, that's not it. Not of this world. I would need. Not of this world. Release date. I don't know. But I would like to. Let me see if I can do it. Watch it. Maybe we should do a watch party of it.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah, let's get pizza.

[David Lee Corvo]

This world. Release. Release.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corvo]

I don't know. I don't know what that means. Release date? I don't know what Pendragon means. Depends on which one you're looking for. The Pentra album. No, thank you. The Dale Thompson.

[Matthew Hepner]

No, you thank.

[David Lee Corvo]

Good Christmas.

[Matthew Hepner]

What in the world?

[David Lee Corvo]

It just told me what it was. Catholic disclosure. Not in this world. Okay. By the end of 2026. That's all we have so far. By the end of 2026, which we're halfway through the year already.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah, but I thought you were gonna like watch it this weekend. Maybe you missed it by a week or two.

[David Lee Corvo]

So you know what's really fascinating about that is they're coming out. Like, if you're, if. If you're Christian or Catholic, you might watch this documentary like, well, let me

[Matthew Hepner]

see what we're supposed to think.

[David Lee Corvo]

And. And they're basically like, I don't know. This is going to be really like, hey, I'm not shaking at all. Why am I not shaking? Why am I not shaking? Why am I not confused?

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah, I could care less. Dude, let the world do what it's going to do.

[David Lee Corvo]

You're gonna go out and speak as the. The representative of the body of Christ and say people are going to be real confused and there's going to be a lot of reassessing that needs to happen. Been like, no, that's not true. I'm fine. I'm fine. Why am I fine?

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah, bring the aliens.

[David Lee Corvo]

Who the is clicking on? Oh, Nancy, Nancy, where's she been? Hello.

[Matthew Hepner]

How's it going, Nancy?

[David Lee Corvo]

Good.

[Matthew Hepner]

It's really good to hear your voice.

[David Lee Corvo]

Thank you.

[Matthew Hepner]

How's everything going on? Good. Did you like how World cup ended?

[David Lee Corvo]

Spain, Right?

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah, but I mean, just in general. Like, all the games. She's trying very hard for one word answers, and this is gonna.

[David Lee Corvo]

You're trying to drop that a little bit, monkey wrench it up.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah. Like all the games, not just Japan. I didn't really watch too many of them. What? I thought you were into it.

[David Lee Corvo]

No. She's heterosexual. Not really.

[Matthew Hepner]

Did you ever watch Meet the Robinsons?

[David Lee Corvo]

No.

[Matthew Hepner]

Why do you pretend like we're friends and then like you say, you say you're gonna do a thing and then you don't do it?

[David Lee Corvo]

I'll do it.

[Matthew Hepner]

Are you okay?

[David Lee Corvo]

Yes.

[Matthew Hepner]

What's wrong?

[David Lee Corvo]

Have you had coffee yet?

[Matthew Hepner]

No. Do you have to take a boo?

[David Lee Corvo]

Right.

[Matthew Hepner]

I'm writing it down. Meet the Robinson. Oh, okay.

[David Lee Corvo]

She was writing down.

[Matthew Hepner]

No, it's.

[David Lee Corvo]

You're.

[Matthew Hepner]

You're gonna be glad that you watched it.

[David Lee Corvo]

Are you boiling water?

[Matthew Hepner]

Not at the moment.

[David Lee Corvo]

Okay. Gotta get some coffee in you.

[Matthew Hepner]

Is there really anything wrong that you want to talk about? It just feels like something's not right.

[David Lee Corvo]

Is there something on your heart, Nance? No. All right, you keep your secrets. That's fine. Someone put a cow couch in front of my house. Can you get out? Yes. Well, it's on the sidewalk. That's kind of couch.

[Matthew Hepner]

You should go out and, like, hang out on it. I don't know. That'd be, like, so cool if you're just out there, just, like, hanging out. Hypodermic. Eating pizza on the couch.

[David Lee Corvo]

What if you called your boss said, I can't come in today? Somebody's put a couch in front of my door.

[Matthew Hepner]

I could try. How is that special someone you were talking about at work?

[David Lee Corvo]

What special someone?

[Matthew Hepner]

Oh, okay. Just checking.

[David Lee Corvo]

Oh, you don't. Don't say that. Don't allude to there being a special someone that the men in the chat are going to lose heart.

[Matthew Hepner]

They do really like her. They do.

[David Lee Corvo]

All right, so. So I think we're done here. Are we done here? It's 2 hours and 17 minutes.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah. No, we don't have. Nancy just got here. Let's make a show, like, with Nancy now. Let's let her talk.

[David Lee Corvo]

No, I gotta go. Look, Tiz Martinez says I need wife. I need the wife. I gotta admit, my wife was gone for a couple of days and this is gonna sound super gay. I was, like, sad.

[Matthew Hepner]

What?

[David Lee Corvo]

I was Sad. I don't like sleeping. You didn't like the free freedom to do nothing? A house is like just a kind of an empty shell.

[Matthew Hepner]

You didn't go to the beach or go ride the longboard.

[David Lee Corvo]

So, I mean, I. I took my son to the place where all the black kids were, and then I came back, you know, and. And I had to go back to. Wait, that.

[Matthew Hepner]

That was a day trip to Clearwater and back?

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah, I didn't really want to, like, stick around, and so I. I dropped her off in Clearwood. No, no, I was. I've not been on vacation. I dropped my wife off and clear. I did go to Wiki Watchy, which sucks, because we just got rained out. It was too cold and.

[Matthew Hepner]

No, because I was, like, hitting you up this weekend to hang out, and I never heard back.

[David Lee Corvo]

100. Not true. You did not hit me up at all. But I. I only had to spend one night in my house without my wife there, and I was like, this is a sad, empty place.

[Matthew Hepner]

Really?

[David Lee Corvo]

Yeah.

[Matthew Hepner]

You love her, man.

[David Lee Corvo]

And then when I was in bed, I kept, like, as I'm dozing off, having this idea that she was there, and then I'd, like, realize she wasn't there, and then I'd get sad, and then I'd grab one of my cats and I'd try, but they. They're are kind of a feisty little. And they don't want to be wrangled in that way. So I can't hug them. No. Not like a sex. Not a sex thing with my cats.

[Matthew Hepner]

But with you.

[David Lee Corvo]

I did do sex, and with my cats. That's bad. That's also abuse. Yeah. And the Lord frowns upon it. To do. To do a sex with cat.

[Matthew Hepner]

Yeah. That's not good.

[David Lee Corvo]

All right.

[Matthew Hepner]

Okay.

[David Lee Corvo]

This has been good.

[Matthew Hepner]

It's been fun.

[David Lee Corvo]

They bred with daughters of men and they will do it again

[Matthew Hepner]

the end

[David Lee Corvo]

is written in the book in the pages they forgot when the last trumpet sound in the heaven.