CIA Uses 23 & Me to Find Alien DNA | Neph 2 America

Summary

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Nephilim Death Squad – "CIA Uses 23 & Me to Find Alien DNA | Neph 2 America"

Date: May 28, 2026

Hosts: David Lee Corbo ("The Raven") & Matthew Hefner ("Merchant of Brown Water")

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EPISODE OVERVIEW

This lively, unfiltered episode of Neph 2 America delivers the signature Nephilim Death Squad blend of Christian comedy, cultural commentary, and conspiracy, all through a biblical lens. Hosts David and Matthew cover recent cultural skirmishes, debates with skeptics, generational trends, and most notably, the explosive claim that the CIA allegedly uses DNA from consumer genetic sites (like 23andMe) to hunt for "alien" bloodlines on earth. The show weaves in themes of spiritual deception, hidden history, and the biblical supernatural worldview, with stops in pop culture, current events, and audience Q&A.

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MAJOR SEGMENTS AND INSIGHTS

1. Intro Banter & Extended Recap of Recent Guest Debates (00:58–20:49)

• Debate Fallout: David recounts a recent, marathon episode with skeptical guests, including an impromptu on-air debate that spilled onto social media (06:12–20:11).
  • Quote: “I misunderstood what I was doing. For three hours, I was fighting a guy who has all these hang-ups but will go to zero length to confirm or disprove his hang-ups.” (19:05)
• AI as Debate Weapon: Their guest attempts follow-up "gotchas" via AI-generated rebuttals: “After three hours...I’m hit with 25 minutes’ worth of AI video clips...I said, Vince, you beautiful son of a, I’m not watching this.” (11:21)
• Host Approach: The guys stress graciousness and boundaries—no endless engagement with those who don’t genuinely want answers.
  • Quote: “It's like God's very clear, don't throw your pearls before swine...let them be, man.” (24:01)

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2. Culture Clash: Generational Trends & Based Kids (26:20–34:09)

• Viral Video Review: They react to young girls at a fair out-debating pro-abortion teens, exploring hope for Gen Alpha’s common sense and backbone.
  • “It gives me a lot of hope for the future generation.” (32:05)
  • Discussion about Gen Alpha (born 2010–2024) showing more resilience and independent thinking than expected (32:39)
• Paganism & Renaissance Fair Culture: Hosts comment on rising pagan/nihilistic language in mainstream youth spaces.

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3. Transhumanism & Living Forever: Trump’s “Anti-Death” Drug (34:10–44:07)

• Trump’s Claims: They play and critique recent clips of Trump allegedly touting a drug that “brings people back from the dead.” (35:07, 36:52)
• Longevity Science & Biblical Lifespans: The hosts muse on the prospects (and biblicality) of radical life extension, referencing stories from Scripture and modern transhumanist tech:
  • “If they tell you, ‘We can expand your life to 200 and your quality of life won’t be so diminished,’ would you be interested in that?” (39:03)
  • “Moses lived to 120 and his eye didn’t grow dim...that's way past the guys that were living to 900.” (39:38)

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4. Boomerville: Critiquing Modern Elder Culture (44:08–53:04)

• The Villages: Boomer disconnect: anecdotes about elders trading family ties for perpetual leisure and the social weirdness/decadence of retirement mega-communities.
  • "[Villages] are infamous for prioritizing wealth over family. You got a Spanish square to dance in every night." (44:07)
  • "At some point, they just go, fuck it, I’m a million...there’s a real absolving of morals." (49:51)
• Dark Anecdotes: Affair and dementia stories from The Villages paint a morally adrift endgame.
• STD Jokes: Brief reference to Florida retirement communities as STD capitals: “You could just exist in the Villages...and not really think about the loofahs.” (52:26)

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5. Headline Dive: CIA, 23andMe, and the Hunt for Alien (Or Nephilim) DNA (53:55–69:00)

• Main Story: NY Post whistleblower claim: CIA using Ancestry and 23andMe DNA to "hunt aliens." (53:55, article read-through to 61:24)
  • “The CIA has been accused of attempting to use DNA submitted to 23andMe and Ancestry.com to aid in their hunt for aliens on Earth.” (53:55)
• Host Theorizing: David and Matthew suggest the real game isn't aliens—it's tracking the “serpent seed,” Nephilim or royal bloodlines.
  • Memorable quote: “I don’t think they’re looking for aliens. I think they’re looking for that bloodline...that Nephilim bloodline, the thing in royal families.” (63:39)
• Religious Groups and DNA Obsession: Mormons' and Israelites' obsession with genetics as spiritual error.
  • “Genetics doesn’t matter. Lineage doesn’t matter. We’re saved by grace through faith.” (67:51)
• Technological Speculation: Some narratives purport the government is matching people to “alien technology” based on genetics.

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6. Alien Narratives, Black Hebrew Israelites & Historical Identity (69:14–83:07)

• Congressional Disclosure (“Eight Alien Species”): Featuring Rep. Tim Burchett’s claims about up to eight alien species; hosts poke at the racial implications of alien taxonomy in UFO lore. (69:14)
• Remote Viewing & Spiritual Mediums: Critique of sources for “alien truth”—spiritual mediums and remote viewers.
• Black Historical Narratives: Satirical exploration of online claims (“We wuz Kangs/aliens/Jews/gigners”), tying in Black Hebrew Israelite street groups and their dual identification as both “captors and slaves.” (80:15–82:15)
  • “To be both the Egyptians and also the Jews is to be both the captor and the slave.” (81:51)

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7. Calendar/Ephemeris Debates – Did They Change Time? (83:07–84:02)

• Hosts examine the theory that timekeeping and lunar calendars have been intentionally disrupted but find evidence (like consistent fruit harvests) inconsistent with this claim.

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8. Q&A and Listener Banter (84:11–119:15)

• Generational Curses, Deliverance & Blood Donations: Q&A on whether curses transmit via blood/plasma; brief theology of spiritual deliverance vs. mere counseling. (84:11, 85:41)
• Circumcision & Autism: Clip of RFK Jr. linking circumcision (and Tylenol) with doubled autism rates; hosts find dark humor in the speculation. (104:34–107:22)
• Physical Health Side-Talk: Chronic pain, red light therapy, inversion tables, and back issues. (107:22–114:44)
• Casting Lots, Divination, and Biblical Discernment: Intrigued but cautious discussion of biblical “casting lots” (drawing straws) as ancient decision-making, not encouraged today. (114:51–116:09)
• “Good Luck” and Spirit World: Speculation on whether saying “good luck” invokes a spirit of gambling rather than God’s will.
• Softball, Food Forests, and Dangerous Retards Event Planning: Bouncing ideas for community meetups, always with a tongue-in-cheek tone. (118:12–119:20)
• Work, Faith, and Labor: Owen Benjamin’s reflection that “working with your hands” (manual labor/Emmanuel) draws you closer to God. (120:40)

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NOTABLE MOMENTS & QUOTES

• On Debating Skeptics, AI, and Christianity:
  • David: “If you don’t want the truth, God will give you an out. He has a history of sending strong delusions to people who don’t want to see the truth when it’s been revealed to them.” (16:51)
• On Transhumanism/Anti-Death Tech:
  • David: “We are the last generation that will live forever or the last that will die.” (37:19)
• On 23andMe & Hidden Agendas:
  • Matthew: “I definitely don’t like the idea of sending my blood to 23 and Me...they can create stuff with it...” (63:22)
• On Alien Narratives:
  • David: “Demonic spirits operate best when you believe that they’re you. If you identify with that thing in your head...that’s when they start working on you. So if Grays are us, Grays are you.” (92:33)
• On New Age & Spiritual Mediums:
  • Matthew (summing up the ‘Gray aliens’ expert): “Where’d he get his info? An entity.” (95:20)
• On Black Historical Tropes:
  • David: “They were everybody...not just Pharaohs, but slaves, gingers, Nephilim, and aliens.” (80:15)
• On Work and Faith:
  • David, referencing Owen Benjamin: “Closeness to God is laboring.” (120:57)

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IMPORTANT TIMESTAMPS

• [06:12–20:11] — Skeptic Debate Recap & AI Back-and-Forth
• [26:29–34:09] — Viral Video: Young Girls vs. Pro-Abortion Teens, Generational Analysis
• [35:07–44:07] — Trump, “Anti-Death” Drugs, & Lifespan Debates
• [53:55–69:00] — CIA, DNA Collection & Alien Bloodlines Discussion
• [80:15–82:15] — Black Hebrew Israelites & Identity Claims Skewered
• [104:34–107:22] — RFK Jr., Circumcision, and Autism Claims

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TONE & STYLE

• Raw, comedic, irreverently Christian, intersection of skepticism and scriptural argumentation.
• Heavy use of self-deprecating humor, memes, and satirical jabs at both secular and “clown world” trends.
• Deep dives are grounded in a supernatural biblical worldview, always with an eye to both educate believers and mock spiritual deception.

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FINAL SUMMARY

This episode exemplifies Nephilim Death Squad’s approach: pulling on the threads of contemporary conspiracy, culture war, and biblical supernaturalism with equal doses of deep reading, gallows humor, and live audience banter. The hosts dig beneath headlines—like the CIA-alien-DNA story—to expose hidden agendas they interpret in biblical and conspiratorial frameworks, all while skewering mainstream and alternative spiritualities alike. The big themes: Don’t outsource your search for truth to AI, new age gurus, or government scientists—read your Bible, question the narrative, and “stay dangerous.”

Transcript

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[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

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[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Is that what they're calling where you're from? It's interview sessions. We had Doc Brown on today. It was really good episode. You loved it?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

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[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

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[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I mean, not straight Bible stuff, standard coffee stuff. I don't know what you got. No, I'm never gonna click on it.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

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[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

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[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

How many people about come to Bohemian Grove last year?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

It was around 300.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

300?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah. I don't know what it's gonna be this year because we, you know, we're

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

not 300nds fans in one place at one time. And. Yeah, was it pandemonium?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Actually, surprisingly, only one person got belligerently drunk, and they didn't even cause a scene. They just got, like, disturbingly drunk. We had to be like, hey, man, you're up. Oh, hold on a second. We already have a super chat, and when we do NEP to America's, Nancy has to read the super chats. But first we have to make the Nancy sound. Go ahead. Nice. That's right. That's what it says. Blah, blah, blah. Thank you. Seven minutes to freedom. We're gonna set an entry right now because that is going to interrupt the flow of the show, which I'm not unwilling to do, but I'm not willing to do it for anything less than $5. So, Nancy, let's not gong these people or. Or read their stuff for. For anything less than.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

We're not a 501C3, but we could sure act like it. It better be a lot of money if you want to be involved in this operation.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Absolutely, we can. You know what's funny is I didn't realize that the last episode that you and I did together, we talked a little bit about the pastor Joseph Z. Z as well as Perry Stone. They were just examples of this sort of grossness.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

At least three times a day since that episode. I remember the Perry Stone thing and I just stop what I'm doing and just.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Is that true?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah, dude.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I remember the. The Joseph C. Thing where he puts his hand on his chest and he proclaims, oh, that was, you know, some. Some prophecy over people. But whatever. The point is that I didn't realize that that probably made Tony Merkel completely closed the door because I didn't realize they were friends like that. I had no idea, you know, because you don't remember. You're listening to a podcast. I listen to the confessionals and sometimes I hear these names, but I don't like, really give a too much. I don't remember them. Today I was in the gym and I was listening to an episode and he was talking about Joseph Z. And he was. And it was like, a glowing endorsement. And.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. That Merkel's glowing endorsement of that, Of Joseph's.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

The prophecy guy, the prophetic.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

No way. Those guys are buddies. I don't know.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Well, Jen says I don't think they're friends much anymore. I mean, I just listened to an episode today. He was talking about him. Who knows? But I'm gonna call out, you know, cringy wherever I see it. So.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah, it's kind of one of those things, though, if you want to get in the Christian game and you want to, like, get in with the people who potentially know the Lord and you're serious about the Kingdom of God, you almost, like, that's where you go. Sure. Go to the pastors, people who are, like, the professionals or whatever you want to call it. So it's like, where do you go if you really want to know the word of God? You really want to know God. You really want to get in the Kingdom of God, like, right. You're not left with a lot of options.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

That's true. Well, I mean, you know, I had an interesting conversation. I kind of wanted to get into this a little bit before we start bringing up content, but we did an episode with the. The guys from Phone Booth podcast is Bill, Ted, and Vince. And, you know, Ted is actually a long time. Both Bill and Ted, longtime buddies of mine. Some of the first meaningful interactions I had when I got on Twitter, and they were really cool to me.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Name Bill and Ted. Like, excellent events.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

No, they're not. They're not really named Bill and Ted. They like to maintain a certain level of anonymity because what they do is a lot of. Don't. What's the matter? What happened? Did you hear something? What's so funny, dude? What's the problem?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I don't know what you're talking about. So they wanted to remain anonymous.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

They wanted to be anonymous, dude. Okay, you're acting weird, man. What was that about?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

What about the Italian?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

A blunt smoker?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Like, what? Because I tuned in for, like, 30 seconds.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Dude, was he smoking a blunt? Yeah.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Joe Brown was like, bro, the boys are defending the Bible, man. They're. They're getting. They're going hard on this whole thing. There's a gay Italian guy. Sure. And then I flipped it on, and he was smoking blunts, and he was asking about stuff. And, you guys, I seem cool. It seemed like a fun conversation I was having.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Fun. Yeah.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

It seemed like a really sincere dude that would say all the questions that, like, people of the world would Say,

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I thought they were fair questions. A lot of them were fair questions. And you know, it was a three hour episode. What I will say in hindsight, which isn't a problem until what happened on Twitter. Would you believe it that after the show there was a fallout? Sounds very familiar, doesn't it? That took place on X.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

What do you. What do you mean? Now he's being nasty.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Well, so, you know, we have this whole discussion and for the audience who watch it, all the dangerous retards really said a lot of fantastic things about the episode. Yeah, I didn't understand the nature of it. So it ended up being a bit of an impromptu debate where my buddies Bill and Ted, they ended up contributing very little to the conversation because this guy was just, you know, he was steering the ship in a big way. And so you guys think you're just

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

gonna go on the show and BS and have. Sure, sure. All of a sudden he's like, oh yeah, you guys are Christians. And that's how it turned into.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Well, it was. He didn't. He wouldn't even accusatory in that way. It was very nice, I thought. Very funny guy. You know what it is? He also has this really thick accent.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Is he Italian?

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[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I don't know what he is actually. We were never really clear on Joe Brown.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Thought he was Italian, but now that I think about it, Joe Brown's from the country. That could be like, that's anybody.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah, yeah, Italian. Italian.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Okay.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah. So I thought it was kind of a Borat accent. It ended up yielding a ton of fun. We, we made a lot.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

It looked like fun. I. I literally saw for 30 seconds he rolled a blunt.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

He said, I never noticed he was rolling the blunt. That's funny.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I think he did. He started smoking something. He was rolling something and smoking it. And then I was like, oh, this looks kind of cool. Yeah, man.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Well, it was. And you know, it was crazy because we were there for three hours. That's a lot longer than our typical episode. Mostly because we're just lazy and we like to get out while the getting's good. You know, we want to leave on a high note. We don't Want to drag it on so that people listen to half of a thing they like and then half of some boring. So we typically don't go that long for our own attention span and. And that of the audiences. But he kept us there, kept asking questions, and by the end of it, it seemed really cool. Now where things went south, I saw that too.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

You were. You were pretending to be his voice, and it was hilarious.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Dude, who is. Somebody said, Vince is just agnostic David from a parallel dimension. You're not even that far off. Redcock. That's his name. It's rid, Dude. Wait, wait.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

But that was hilarious. You were like. You were pretending to be his voice. It was like, really good. So then the next day, he started to be not cool.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

It wasn't even that he was being not cool.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

There's got to be a misunderstanding.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

It was that his inability to, like, gauge the room was astounding. So what ended up happening the next day on Twitter, for those of you that enjoyed that episode? We, you know, I wake up and all of a sudden it was the next day or two days, whatever. I'm hit with a bunch of tags. I've been tagged in a bunch of posts, and it is like five, five minute long clips each one. So. So we're talking 25 minutes worth of clips of him talking to AI, getting AI to rebut everything that we said in the episode so that he can, like, push back. And he wants us to watch all these things. And after three hours. After three hours, this is what I'm talking about. The gauge of the room. You did. You couldn't gauge the room. And this is what was really crazy. So, you know, after all this time, he. He shows and I go, hey, buddy, look, man, I love you. I'm not gonna watch these videos. All right? If you want to summarize what the questions are.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Wait, did you just say tldr?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

No, I didn't say tldr. I was. I was very nice. I just said, look, I literally said. I said. I think I said, Vince, you beautiful son of a. I'm not watching this. You know, and it was like, cheeky and I'm. Everything's cool. If you want to summarize them and ask me, I'll do my best to answer. But also, I started to discover after some time, it was like he had beef with the Bible. So he was using us as if we're representatives of the Bible or something like that. Like, I guess we're, you know, we're Christians, but it's like, if you have big answer or big questions like, go and talk to people. Have a, have Ed Mabry on. Talk to any. Talk to Albarino. Talk to somebody. That makes a lot more sense than we do. And, and in fact, the, the, our ability to completely. Everything that he asked us, we shot it down. Not shot it down. It wasn't cruel. We're just answering the questions. But it was like, I'm surprised we did as good as we.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I was gonna say he probably loved. Like, these are some real ass dudes. I know these guys are some real ass dudes. Like, I've watched their career, I know them and they're giving me responses that, okay, yeah, but that's the thing.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Like, so, okay, let's say you have a conversation with somebody for three hours, they answer all your questions rather gracefully, right? Or graciously. And the normal response is like, hey man, cool. Yeah, you've given me a lot to think about. I'm not like totally sold, but I'm gonna keep going down this path because you had a lot of answers for things I didn't think there was answers for. And you would go, cool, man. But instead he goes, well, AI says X, Y and Z.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

But maybe it wasn't like adversarial. Maybe he just was smoking blunts and was like, he was doing the deep dive. You provoked him to dig into it more and then he's like, wait, now I have more. Like, that's what you're saying? That's what I hear questions. But he didn't mean it. Like, you owe me an answer to all five of these five minute things. Yeah, he just was going into it deeper now.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Well, that's, that's a, a kind outlook and, and that's.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Did he say mean stuff?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

No, well, it wasn't that he said mean stuff. It was like he kept going and kept going and kept going. So I've now done a three hour episode with you. Now I've done 24 hours worth of answering questions on Twitter. It's been crazy.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah, right?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

And like a lot of it is just kind of like he's mean spirited and bitter. And I'm saying, no, that's not. No, no, that's what he's doing on, on Twitter. It's, it's getting weird. And I keep answering him, I keep answering him and eventually I start to highlight like, hey dude, I'm not here for your entertainment. You should talk to these guys. And he goes, I'd like to see these guys debate AI. Hey man, nobody wants to get on

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

your show debate culture.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Well, even if that was something that was worth doing to sit on your show, which, by the way, I'm gonna get. Nobody watches it, you know, which I don't know. Maybe that's because he's talking to AI. That's his co host. His co host is AI on his

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

own personal show, Bill and Ted. They're not the co host.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

They're. They're doing a different show where they're all together, but he does his own solo show where he's just talking to AI.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

That could be cool. So maybe just super high talking to AI.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Sure, sure. But imagine being like, hey, now that you've spent 24 hours responding to my questions, three hours on a live podcast that you didn't know was, I'd like you to come on my show and debate this AI. So everything just kind of went to.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

He's just doing it for content then. Is that the thing that people do? They're just trying to get the looks and the views and the likes.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

And eventually enough time pass past that I became aware of, like, what was going on. It was that he's the kind of guy that there will be. If you said, what proof could somebody give you to show you? Like, whoa, wait a second. There's really something here with the Bible, with Christianity, with Jesus Christ. There's really something here. There is nothing you could give him.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Well, his story's not over.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

No, his story's not over, and that's fine. But, like, our conversation was over. That was. Sure. Because I dragged that on for. For two days beyond it. You know, Top bowed out pretty. And Top was with them too, in the beginning. They're just going back and forth. And then Top realizes, like, now this guy is. I. I don't even know what you would say. It's just one of those things where he. He won't have it. He cannot imagine that there's anything worth the time of day in scripture. He thinks it's, you know, he'll say

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

something like, so then why keep, like, asking?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I have no idea. Yeah, I have no idea. He'll go, satan could have written the Bible. And you go, okay. He's like, to make everybody kill each other. It's like, okay, but if you look into the Bible, it's like, you know, thou shalt not murder. You know, love your enemies. All these different things over and over again, Right? Murders condemned. And. And so that doesn't line up. Why would. And then.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

And then people like that, you just don't mess with. You just.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Well, you Know, gracious.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

You do a three hour show and then it's like, good luck with everything, man. You seem like a nice guy.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah. Wish you the best. Means business says because AI took his soul, it's really weird, man, to watch him. AI straight up lied to him. You know what I mean? It's like, oh, the Bible says no man can, can look at God, but Moses saw God. And it's like, well, God says you can't look upon my face. But Moses was hid in the crevice of a cliff face and was allowed to see potentially God's back as he passed by.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

You know, so it's like even in that moment, God is going through these great lengths to kind of protect, seems like, protect Moses from his entire glory. That, you know, I, I don't know if you want to use your imagination. Could blow the skin off his body or something crazy like that. So it's like right in the beginning, the very first, you know, complaint that we have is, oh, AI says there's a contradiction there. And it goes, we go, well, not quite.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I think God gives enough things that look like contradictions that if you don't want the truth, he says, no problem, I'll give you an out. Well, that's what I told him, like

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

that I said at some point to him, I said, hey man, just be careful. Because God has a history of sending strong delusions to people who don't want to see the truth when it's been revealed to them. Like, if you really don't want, if you have an agenda and you want to stay away from this because there's no. I, you know, in your estimation, there's no way that something as cliche, and I understand this sentiment, something as, as cliche as Christianity could be the truth. And then he cites over and over again all the ways that men have failed at representing God, as if that is somehow reflective of God, which the

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Bible says will happen. So it just validates the Bible, but yeah, I mean,

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

named after a Hindu demon too, which is funny, of course. Yeah. And what's it. It means something interesting like Maya.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Hip to it, dude. She's all into that.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Well, because, you know, he, he kind of got on the community's radar last night and that didn't go so well for him. And then of course, half the people that watch this show are smarter than we are. So they start sleuthing through and they quickly figure out the idea of like, Maya means like to deceive. It's like a Hindu goddess that means like you know, that is associated with deception and a number of other things. And I'm like, what's that? Illusion. Illusion. Right, right.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

So.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

And when he. When that gets pointed out to me, he goes, cool. Well, you goofy. You goofy. Well, you know, I gave him a lot of it.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

And when I came to a Bible, I didn't want it to be real. I. I did not want to think that, like, the American white Christians in all the church pews that, like, they were right. I was like, no, there's no way, dude. There's no way.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah, I get it. You know why? Because part of it is like, you know, this grandiose search for the truth, and there's no way in hell that it could be in the drawer of every hotel room.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Right, right, right. I was like, there's no way. And then all these, like, dreary people that I see that are just like, yeah. I'm like, no, there's no way. Those people are right. And then I got a Bible and I was like, oh, damn, this is definitely the truth.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah. Discussion too, where it was like, you know, of course there are many people that are moving through the church system that we're all familiar with that are not really about it.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah, of course that's true. It doesn't affect some people, man.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

It's very strange that the inability to grasp that conversation. You know, I had a lot of fun because he made it fun and. And because we made it fun too. You know, doing the accent and everything was a lot of fun. But afterwards I was like, oh, I kind of misinterpreted that. I misunderstood what I was doing. For three hours. I was fighting a guy who has all these hang ups but will go to zero length to confirm or. Or disprove his hang ups. Right. Rather than go, I've got. Because if you were. That I was never that passionate about, like, the Bible not being true or anything like that. I always kind of looked at it and said, well, maybe, right? We've had this discussion before where like, all throughout conspiracy, it comes up. So of course there's some element of me that considers, well, maybe there's really something there, but this guy's like, super passionate about it. That it's not true, that it's not true, that it's a deception from Satan to make people kill each other. And, you know, you just. Whatever stupid hollow complaint that you could throw at it really is like, stuff that comes from an angsty teenager. Which is fine. Right.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

But that's how you deal with an angsty Teenager just go, okay, no problem. Well, you know, good luck with everything.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

It's. At some point, as an adult, right. With agency and. And resources, if you really have that much of a mounting pile of complaints, you would. You would go, let me see this thing. Let me look at it. Let me read it. Instead, he outsources to AI.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

That's weird.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Which is just.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

It's like, so much, but not read it.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

It's lazy and it's sloppy. And I don't know, it was just a really strange. But, you know, there was a lot of cool stuff that did come out of it, because the type of learner that I am, I learned, like, conversationally. And I think you also learn when you teach.

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[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

And it's not what I was doing. I wasn't teaching, but, like, somebody's asking me questions, and I've got to try to present this now. And as I'm doing that, it's kind of like carving these grooves in my brain of, like, how to think of this entire story. And we were starting to talk about the Abraham and Isaac situation, and a lot of people have some issues with that, you know, understandably so, because God is asking Abraham to sacrifice his son. And, you know, that's really scary. And that sounds like, you know, if you want to say God is the demiurge and he's an actual demon, The God of the Old Testament is a demon. That's one of the things that you would use to say that. And I disagree with that. I see you shaking your head. I disagree with that as well. Because the same God that makes promises to Abraham that the world will be blessed through his lineage is. Is the same God that brings about Jesus Christ, you know, and then that's all the New Testament. Like, that is a fulfillment of the promise that God made to Abraham.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah, that whole story, he's saying, no, no, you. You don't have to do that. But. But I will. Yeah, I will. Like, like, he's a king who comes down and fights on the front line of the war, dude. Like, if Trump starts a war, Trump's not out there in Iran, like, doing the stuff, right? God says, no, no, I'll come get down on the front line of the war. And I'll do it. I won't actually make you do that. I'm glad to see that you're that loyal and that faithful. And I get. I. Supposedly they live in a time where like, that's a thing, right? Like, if God told us to sacrifice, our kid would be like, what are you talking about? We don't understand. We don't have any grid for that. And that day, that was a thing they had a grid for. Yes. Okay, I'll go, I'll do it.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Right?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

And it goes. Our God says, no, no, no, you're not going to do it, but I will.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah. That's what's really crazy about it too, is like, you know, so. So the first thing I show to him is like, hey, by the way, you leave the part out where God stays his hand and he gives him a ram instead to sacrifice. Right. But the other idea is like, you know, that he stops this from happening and then he goes and does that for the world, for he still loved the world that he does that. And to me, that's like, really such a crazy. I zoomed out and I was like, damn. So much of the Bible is about God's promise to Abraham and, and the fulfillment of those promises. And you know, it's. But for whatever reason, you know, it's just like, oh, well, it's a demon. It's a demonic thing to ask somebody to do that. And then he said, like, yeah, man, if. If a voice popped up in your head and told you to do that today, you wouldn't do that. And I said, yeah, because Jesus Christ already fulfilled the law.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Amen.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

So I wouldn't do that because we're no longer sacrificing anymore. Like, that's not a thing that has to happen, man. So if something said that, I would be super cautious. Like, wait a second, wait a second. What are we talking about? Jesus already came and made it so that the law has been fulfilled and we don't have to do that anymore. The ultimate sacrifice has already happened. Yeah.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

The problem is though, like, if somebody doesn't want to hear it, there's no amount of debating or winning debate, anything.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Dude, that's like, I don't like the debating thing, man.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

It's like God's very clear, like, don't throw your pearls before swine. I'm not trying to say anything ugly about anybody, but he's just making the point of like, people who don't want it, don't force feed them.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Like Let them be, man.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Well, a lot of what I was doing. And I agree with that. I even said that, like, Matthew, like, knocking the dust off your feet. Yeah. And kicking the.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

You know, stick around and win the debate. Get out of there.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

What I was doing was like, like, okay, this is being laid out in such a concise way. I can retweet these responses and. And people can see that linear, like that line of thought where everything makes sense and everything connects. So it wasn't so much about Vince after a while. It was also for my own sake. It's like, okay, like, if this dude's gonna press back on these things, let's. Let's say this. Like, let's. Because I've.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

But on the X, you kind of have to respond to everything.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

No, I stopped responding to him because

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I don't think I will ever respond to a YouTube comments or anything ever again, dude. I think I did it like one or two times, and it was like. I. I thought it was, like a genuine question, and so I was, like, responding with, like, a genuine, heartfelt response. Yeah, dude, it was like, no, I'm just here to burn you down. I was like, okay, never mind.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Sometimes it's like that, sometimes it's not. But, you know, I've never. Since my. Since my. I guess my coming to Christ, it's far and few in between that I have to, like, lay out an entire thing.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

You know what I mean? That I have to, like, answer in a concise way, because especially for me, I've been learning for years, and I'm still learning now, but it was an opportunity to kind of say, like, all right, these are fair questions and, like, decent enough pushbacks. Do I have an answer for those things? And then I. I did, and I was like, okay, so. So that. What does. It reaffirms it in my mind.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

But it also helps me to understand it better because. Yeah, to teach is an exercise in understanding.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

That's why it's good to, like, read the Bible to your kids, dude.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

The gay guy with the blunts was rough, dude. Your kids are going to question you with all kinds of stuff, dude. Yeah, yeah, all kinds of stuff. And you got to go search it out to give kind of answer.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Well, that. That was cool, too, because afterwards it came up, I was on a walk with my family and. And, you know, now I'm sitting there having this discussion about Abraham and Isaac and even my son. Like, before I even start to get out the story, he's like, yeah, but God stopped him from killing Isaac. And I was like, yeah, dude. Yeah, he did. So it was. It was very cool. It's just an interesting interaction, man. Because what started off as something I thought was very genuine ended up just like this guy. And then of course, the dangerous retards found him and they started pounding his ass into the dirt and things got real.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yikes.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Upsetting for him. So I want to show this kind of on the topic of maybe even the based kids videos, man. Here, let's put this up.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

We're ready for the videos.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

All right, hold on.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Hopefully there's some grays.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

No, this. This little girl crushes some rakes. So what's happening here is it looks like they're at like a. Some sort of affair. And these little girls are talking to anti abortion Christians. I imagine they're Christians. They're against abortion. And these two chicks, these two teenagers come in and try to save the day, try to save the little girls from being influenced by the evil anti abortionists. And check out how this goes. Justifying murder. Well, the baby also has a right, doesn't it?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

The little kids are.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah, the little kids are. They're anti abortion there. So those little girls. This is a different video than what I saw, but I'm sure we're gonna get around to it.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

From the Renaissance fair. The ones that are saying like, yeah, you should kill me.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

The chicks from the Renaissance fairs. And maybe it'll show it. They come up and they try to save those little girls, but you can't see is off camera. There's a woman with a banner that's against abortion. And those little girls were having a conversation with that adult woman.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Oh, and these chicks were like, hey, we'll save you little kids.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Exactly. What? What? Psych. What did she say? She's like, it's just a clump of cells. She goes, those cells are the very things that make up human life. Like, damn, bro, I don old these. How old do you think these little girls are?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

The little ones.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

The little ones got to be 7 or 10.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I don't know. I. I don't know. These are like teenagers, though. The.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Oh, yeah, these poor dummies are. Yeah, Tina, here, let's look made up of human. I promise you it doesn't have arms or legs yet. Oh, okay. So.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

So what.

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[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Humans. That's. I feel like this is. Vince. It's a edge. Edgy kind of like, I don't know where you get that nihilistic human shouldn't exist. I don't know if they're going to show it.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I'm.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

That's what she said, humans shouldn't exist. I'm going to let this play and then I'm going to explain the part that we don't see. So here, let's go. Do you support murdering born humans?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Like, you think murder is fine?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Like, school shootings are good? No, you just said humans shouldn't exist. I said as in not human, should have never been existed. But that doesn't mean they're good. No, no one's good. No, you're the perfect murder. So it's your logic having a baby, because then that baby can end up not being. No humans.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

No humans are.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

God is perfect.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

God is perfectly just. Bro.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

May Aphrodite, when I tell you, like, there was a real unironic rise in paganism. Yeah, like, it is a thing. It's, it's, it's an actual prevalent thing.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

So what do you. How do you think a chick that, the, the chick that was doing the talk and like, got like that?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I don't. Oh, that poor girl. I mean, that's mostly media.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah, right.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

It's mostly media. It's mostly sort of like anything that has like a leftist feminist bent to it. And I guess, to be perfectly honest, it's the disenfranchised nerd who gathers in the dark corners and says things like this to each other. And when you're at a Renaissance fair, you're. You're surrounded by disenfranchised nerds who are all saying goofy to each other. So then when you're, when you're with a nerd at a Renaissance fair, when they go, aphrodite, bless you, you go like, of course, you know, because you're at a Renaissance fair and you're a nerd. So this is just, you know, two different, I guess, echo chambers. You could say it's two different echo chambers meeting in real life.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Here.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

This has only got like a couple more seconds. We'll play it and then we'll talk about it.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

No, no. Yeah. No, thank you.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

That does anything. Yeah. Amen, bro. That is a 14 year old trying to influence us on what's wrong, bro? So the way that that starts off, you don't get to see it. What happens is those two girls come over and they go, hey, girls, you don't have to be influenced by this person talking about the person who's, who's. And all of a sudden the little white Girl turns around and goes, hey, how about you shut up. And I was like, whoa. And then they start talking about like, you know, this idea of abortion. And the one girl that you just saw, the black girl, she goes, well, I don't know about you, but if I was raped, I would get an abortion. And the little kind of chubby girl, she goes, my aunt was raped and she kept the baby because she loves it. And I was like, it was super heavy. Super heavy?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

No, but it's wild. They show up and they think they're going to be the saviors of humanity. Telling these little girls, when you grow up, you're going to want to have a baby inside you and kill it.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah, man.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Well, when I was little and I got told what abortion was, I was like, what, dude?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I don't even know if my son knows what abortion is. I don't know we're gonna have this conversation.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

He told me it's when the mom kills the baby. I was like, wait, what?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Imagine me at that age. You know how I am now. Imagine me at seven.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Oh, yeah.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Like, wait, it's horrifying. Yeah. To the point where she was just like, shut up. Yeah, shut up.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Panda says, I hope I ra my daughter to be like this. Like, yeah, man, that's, that's, it's honestly, really, what's the word? Like, it gives me a lot of hope, you know, for like the future generation. I've seen statistics that kind of suggest that the younger generations, like even Gen Z is a little bit more. Maybe it's not Gen Z, whatever. Gen Alpha is a little bit more based. Right. They're not easy to offend.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

What age is that?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

It's a good question. Nancy, can you look that up? Look up what age range Gen Alpha is. I'm sure somebody in the chat will say something,

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

but that's, that's younger people though.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I believe my son is Gen Alpha, but I don't know where he falls in, in Gen Alpha. But you know, they're not easy to offend. They are calling their homies. They're born between 2010 and 2024. 2010 and 2024. Okay, so damn, that's a 14 year range. Yeah, so my, my son's kind of smack dab in the middle. And on the older end, some of them are like 16 years old right now.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

So the ones are a little older than that or what? They're, they're. Jen.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

So the ones that are a little bit older that are going to be

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Gen Z because Aiden is Like what you're talking about?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah, they're. They're a little bit better.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

They clown just like we did in junior high, dude.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

What's that, Nance? 0 to 16 years old. Old as of right now. 0 to 16 years old. Yeah. Yeah. So that's why you're getting some of this data from high school, you know, because when's high school start? 14, 15? I think so. Yeah. I think you're like a freshman at 15, sophomore at 16, junior at 17. No, no. So it actually starts at 14 years old. So you're getting some data back from high school, which is where, like, some of these videos are emerging out of classrooms and such. And they're, like, super offensive. And they're having a good time. They're laughing and. And they think a lot of this leftist ideology is the whole trans movement and everything. They think it's. They make fun of it. So, I mean, you know, that's it. It gives me a little bit of hope. Those little girls gave me a little bit of hope. That was nice to see.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah, that was cool.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I like that. All right, so let's hear. We'll get into something else. This is really interesting. This is a video of Donald Trump, and apparently there is. He's gonna talk about it. You know, I don't even want to spoil it. Let's just listen to the video and we'll let it kind of be a surprise. Here, let me bring this up.

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[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Donald Trump. It's 10 years, by the way. We think we've cut it in half, but. But you do need a period of time without waiting many, many years. We know the drug works because we've taken people that were dead. We had a person given the last rights gone.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

The kids are crying and started them on this drug, and the person became better.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

It works, you know, and some don't work, but you learn really fast. It's called the ultimate test, I think, right? You know, test all these things.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

They use animals all over the place.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

They use everything to test.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Person's gonna die.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

It's 10 years, by the way.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

We think we've got it. What is this?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

So he's just such A such a mumble mouth kind of a dude. No medicine, by the way, I think. Who just said that? Jeanette said there was another assassination attempt. I believe there was. They caught like a shooter outside of Washington D.C. might have been yesterday or the day before, but you know, it's gotten to the point now where it happens so often, like people are unmoved. Anything, dude, who cares is right. Yeah, so. And that's not even me being like, you know, mean about. I'm just like, yeah, there's so many. All right, so we have the medicine that brings people back from the dead. We have tested it, and so is this U. S. President.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

He's not saying comes back from the dead. He's saying like, they're on the deathbed, they're about to die. They're. I mean, he's saying like, figuratively they're die, they're dead. We read them their last ride and then they come back to life.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I wonder if it is just a mincing of words because I have seen the headlines where it's like, he has. He's claiming to have a medicine that brings people back from.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I don't know, maybe I heard it wrong, but it sounded like he was

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

just saying, no, I heard exactly what you said.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I agree. You're on your deathbed, like, that's it, there's no more hope for you. But then you end up taking this medicine and you don't die.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Trump has declared that the US Is very close to discovering a drug that stops people from dying. In a press conference from the oval Office, he said the drugs in the testing phase and has yielded the first concrete results. I wonder what the, the cause of death would have to be.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I don't know. But if you're one of those people, you're like, yeah, give me it, I'll take it.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah, long for death, but not find it. Or how's that go?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I don't know. But if they're like, don't want to die? And they're like, sure, I got this drug, it may work, it may not work. They'll be like, okay, give me it.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Well, there's that idea that we are the last generation, either the first generation that will, I don't know, this is going to be hyperbolic. I could be screwing this up. First generation that'll live forever or the last generation that will die. So in other words, the technology and the medicine is there that we could feasibly be among the generation who will see our lifespans or our lifespans expanded, you know, exponentially who knows how long or it's going to come right after us. We're going to be the last ones that die, you know, whatever the ages, so.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Well, yeah, there's a lot of, like, science people and like, health people. David Sinclair, I think he's working on a ton of stuff.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

There's a guy that drinks his come.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I don't know about that.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Guys chat. You know what I'm talking about? He looks like a retarded vampire and he. He likes to measure his boners against his son's boners and he's kind of a big deal. Brian.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

No, there's nobody that would do that. That's a big deal.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

No, that's a real, real thing. I've been making fun of him. He never sees my tweets, I don't think. No, no, hey, that's not nice, guys. But yeah, go on, you were saying?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I don't remember what I was saying. Now I got a little.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Brian Johnson. It is Brian Johnson, right?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah, Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I just didn't want to assume his last name was Penis and it was all about, you know, penises, because he is. He's like drinking the come and his urine and he's measuring the, I don't know, vascular, like something about his and his son's.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

And I don't think Brian Sinclair is that weird. Maybe he's just like, working on stuff. I mean, even Andrew Huberman, like, all these dudes are working stuff for, like, long term.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Brian Penis.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Good health. That is awkward.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Brian Penis is a good name. Yeah. I don't know it. I suppose it depends, right? If. If they tell you, hey, Matt, we've got some, Some ways to expand your. Your life, you know, let's say close to 200, and your quality of life won't be so diminished that it'll be horrifying. A horrifying experience. In other words, you're not gonna feel 200. Would you be interested in that? I suppose it depends on what they're doing, Right?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah. I think the short answer is maybe. I don't think so, but I don't.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

You don't think he would be.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

No, no.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Really?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

What are you talking? Like, the eternal realm is way better than this, but, like. Yeah. Especially if I realize it was out of the natural order. I just don't know how much it's out of the natural order. I'd have to go back and kind of really study the scripture. Like Moses lived to 120. Yeah. And his eye didn't grow dim and he still had the Strength of a young man. Like, he, like, it was like God had to take him out.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Right.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

He was so close. He was going to keep living. That's way past the guys that were living to 900. Sure. That's like. That's like.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Well, that's an interesting thing because you

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

say 120, like, that's reasonable for us to live to 120. But if they say, like 200, I'm like, I don't know. You guys are doing something crazy. And I don't want to tamper with my DNA in any way. So I don't. I don't think so.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah. Well, I mean, it is interesting, though, to even think about the idea that dudes were living to 400, 500, 900 years old. Right. I mean, that's how some of the lifespans in the Bible were.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah, yeah. Well, imagine that's why the technology was so much better back then. And that's why they had built all kinds of stuff. Like, dude, if you're 900, imagine how smart you are, dude.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

That's true. Yeah.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

And you learned from other guys who were 900.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Well, the thing that I think is interesting about it is you hear a lot of people say, like, oh, Doug, I just don't wanna. I don't wanna live that long. Like, you know.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Well, no, I'd be like, saying, do

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

you want to do even the process.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

High school for four years? Would you rather be in high school for 40 years? No, I don't want to be in high school.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Sure.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

So I'm gonna go from this life to the eternal realm.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

But do you think that those dudes, like, that were living to 400, 500 would, like, if they were like, hey, would you have rather died at 80? You think they would have said yes?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Like, I don't know, man. I don't know. I'm just saying the eternal. Like, where we go from here is going to be way better.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah, No, I agree with that. 100. It's just an interesting thought because, you know, now you'll meet a lot of old dudes that are like, I just, you know, hey, I'm tired, boss. Yeah, you know, I. I'm. I'm done. Whenever the good Lord wants me to come home, I'm coming home.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah, my grandpa said that my grandma.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

My dudes are living in 600 years old back in the day.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

And I just wonder if they were as. No, no, Right?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

No, they were just, like, living on the Earth, dude, having a good crash.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Do you think they were bigger because you Know how they're like, oh, Adam and Noah and, you know, were huge.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I don't know, man. I mean, the fruit.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

You've seen that, right?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

The fruit was bigger. No, but it makes sense. I mean, you know, the. The weight of sin is like crushed humanity over time. Like, they. They go into a Kadesh barnia. Moses sends in spies, right. One from each tribe. They go in, they come back and it says, oh, yeah, that's right. Cluster of grapes on a pole between them.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

They're huge. Yeah.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

It's not like normal sized stuff.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Sure.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

And they brought the other fruit of the land back. Right. They went into the promised land, which some would argue is a type of heaven. They came back and showed people the fruits of that other realm.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

And said, all right, you guys want it? And some of them wanted it and some of them didn't. They mostly didn't. Didn't. They mostly said, oh, no, man, we got to kill giants. We go in there.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

That's interesting.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Caleb and Joshua were like, no, no, we could go wipe them out, man. Like, God's with us.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah. Yeah, that is interesting. I don't know.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I don't know. So. So they're eating bigger, healthier food. Did it make them grow bigger and healthier?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Says, yeah, let's extend the shittiest part of life. Well, I mean, I guess that must be the thing, right, if you were 600 back in the day. But that was the equivalent of walking around in your 40s and 50s, you know, as far as, like, your physical body goes, Right. You probably weren't longing for death in any kind of way.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

No, you talk to the old people, bro. When you talk to the old villagers, they. They're like, no, man, life is still good and fun. They're like, well, they're having as much fun and I'm as happy. And my brain, a lot of them say, yeah, my brain is as sharp as it's ever been.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

That is interesting because I was talking to my wife the other day, my wife, and she was saying, I don't know why the villages gets such a bad rap. People seem to hate it, you know, And I'm like, look, you gotta think about it this way. Like, the boomers are the generation that hoarded all their wealth. They're infamous for not talking to their kids or grandkids. They want to live forever. They might live forever. Remember that funny bit we were watching where it was just like, I can't wait to leave you all my. All my wealth and. And all the things that I've built here. And then he's like. He pauses, and his son goes, you're not gonna die, are you? He's like, actually, there's been a lot of advancements in medical technology. I think I have a long life. It was. It was really funny, but it was like there is something almost kind of cold and corrupt, this unwillingness to, like. Like, number one, relinquish your wealth.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

And then this prioritization. I'm not saying all boomers are like this, but they're infamous for this. So in generalities, this applies. This. This substitution of family for wealth. And you kind of see this a lot in the villages, where it's like, hey, who the needs kids and grandkids? We got a Spanish square to dance in every night.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Then when the sun goes down, it's loofah pounding time. You know what I mean? So it's like. And they're just popping pills to get boners that God from them years ago.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

But it's weird, dude. Like, my mom and dad are that generation. But, like, they. They. Their parents lived through the depression, you know, so they were raised just way different, dude. They were raised with, like, you know, people today go out to eat maybe even once a day, dude. Like, my parents went out to eat, like, maybe once a month maybe. But her parents, like, never went out to eat. Experienced all these luxuries. I think they lived. Maybe they just have, like, the most drastic difference between how they grew up with bare necessities to, like, everything's at their fingertips. And I just think maybe that's too much for that generation.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I think it is. And, you know, I get it. So I walk through the. The. The spring. Like, sometimes, you know, Jack will go for a sleepover over his buddies. He's been doing that lately, and that's been super cool because that frees up a night every once in a while for me and my wife to go out. We'll go to the springs or the squares, rather. It's cool because they're playing music, and you can go and you can get a drink and. And. And walk around, and I enjoy it because it's kind of a vibe, and it's also safe.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

My mom's 70.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Your mom is 70. Okay. All right. That was unprompted.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Sparrow say no. She said, I think her parents are older than boomers. I think my. I think 70 is boomers. Right.

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[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I think so.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Nancy, how old are boomers? Can you look that up? So, but as I'm doing it, as I'm walking around and I'm hanging out with my wife, I am also, I have this smirk across my face because it is dystopian and it is, like, inherently corrupt. And. And there's a movie born between 1946 and 1964.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah. My dad was born in 1950, and my mom's five years younger, so she would have been 55.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Okay, so.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Okay, so maybe Sparrow was just taking a shot at me, trying to be.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

That could be it, because you're old. But there is something artificial and uncanny about it.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

About what?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

The villages?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

And it is like, it's kind of a.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Well, kind of a sided coin. It's kind of rad that they are still, still so active at this stage of the journey. I do admire that. Yeah, I do admire that. Like, my grandma used to swim every morning at the Livermore Valley Tennis Club. And then when she quit swimming every morning, she got old, like, so quick. Yeah, that'll happen so quick.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

That'll happen. Once you stop doing, you die.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

The boomers, they're very active. They're doing stuff. So on the one they're. That's pretty cool. Like, that's very.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

You like the part where they're.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

No, that's awkward.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

No, you're cool. Like, that's pretty cool.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

No, dude, you want to hear a terrifying story about them? Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Ah, geez.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

So lady comes in, she's totally my buddy, and I'm asking about her life. You know how I do. I'm just asking people about their life.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

She's like, getting my busted open.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

She used to hang out with the neighbor.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Chair smashed in, the.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Okay. She's going out with the neighbor. They're like, shopping and doing stuff. And the neighbor was like, real crazy. And she said, I'm gonna have your husband one day. What the.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

And the girl was like, oh, haha. They joke like that in the buildings. They're over their party and they're having drinks and stuff. Come to find out her husband ends up having an affair with this neighbor. No, no, it's way crazier. Like, goes and lives with her and that neighbor. Her husband is still in the house, but he has dementia.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yes. Oh, no, that's the worst.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I heard this, and I was like, this is literally something that's. Nightmares are made.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

That's the worst nightmares are made of.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah. Dementia disease. He's in his house.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah. I think it's just called dementia.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Another dude with his wife, and she's just carrying on like, oh, yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

And then there's times where he's remembering and then he's forgetting. So for him, for a brief moment, he's just like, honey, no.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

You just.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Are you Frank?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

You just don't know what people know, dude. Just because they can't communicate to you doesn't mean they're taking everything in. Like me and Jess say, if you're ever in the hospital with somebody.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

You act like they can hear everything, and you speak life over them and you say good things. Yeah, they're looking great. They're doing good, because their spirit, no matter what, is taking you.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

And she deserves the flamethrower, honestly.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

But is that not the craziest thing?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

That's the worst I've ever heard.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Have some crazy stories.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

That's what I'm saying. Like, there's a real absolving of morals. Well, I think when you get to the end of the line, you kind of go like, you know, my uncle, he used to say, right, you're only gonna live once, so might as well eat all the things. And then he gets diabetes, you know, and it's like, all right, man. Like, don't just reach the end of the line, or at least as you perceive it, and then go it with all the. The maintenance. And. And morality is kind of a thing that you're constantly working at. And so in that way, it's like a maintenance, right? You're always, like, curbing your. The. The desires of the flesh and this and that. And at. At some point, they just go, it. I'm a million.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

That's my question is at some point is like, that couldn't have been like that. When she was 30, did she think she was going to grow up and do that to her husband? Like, at some point did they get retired, have, like, unlimited money, if you will, and where they could do whatever they want? And somehow that led to that kind of thinking, like, I can't imagine she just thought like that her whole life. I. I don't know.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I hate that story. Story.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I do too, bro.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

That's the worst ever. Okay. You got a heavy spirit now. Yeah, dude, I don't like that.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Heaviest spirit for like a day when she said that, and I still think like that. When I told Jess, she was just like, no. And I was like, sweetie? Yeah. Just told me she bought a vanilla syrup. She loves your oat bars. She gets, like, a hot chai.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

She chugs the neighbor's guy, and she

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

just told the whole story. I cannot believe she told that story

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

to you all willy nilly style. That's a wild thing to just be like, hey, by the way, no, she's my buddy. No, there's no part of her that went like, hey, you're probably gonna think this is terrible, but here we go. No.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah. She wasn't the bad guy in the story. She was the one whose husband left her.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Oh, oh, oh, Okay. I thought this was.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

The husband left her to go be with the neighbor. Yep. And the neighbor's husband still lived in the house of dementia. Oh, that's the worst.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

That's the worst thing.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

She was telling me this story, and I was like, I'm so sorry.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I hope. I hope. You know, my life is really fantastic. My relationship's really fantastic, and it's one of the things I'm most grateful for that God has given me. My uncle, before he passed away, he used to say, you're a richer man than I'll ever. Because of just what I had in that way, these spiritual things.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Amen.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

And the other day, just yesterday actually, I was about to go for a walk with my family and. And my neighbor came out and she's got this cute little dog, and its name is Ginger. And we always stop and we pet it and. And she just as. As we say goodbye to her, she starts saying a bunch of, you know, she's like, by the way, I just wanted to say, you guys are so nice. It's so nice to see you so in love. And all this, I don't like that's means so much because she watches sometimes from the porch. You don't see her, Right. But she can see me if I'm getting out of my car. And I. I want to stay that person. I want our relationship to stay the type that when you're looking from the outside in, when we don't think anybody's looking, we're still crushing, we're still having fun, we're still loving on each other. And we're definitely not going off and the neighbor in front of their dementia.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

But you have to cultivate it. I mean, yes, something, Some disconnect happens for them to be able to do that.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Evil, bro. They. That's. That's evil.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah, that's evil. Disconnect.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

That's. That's like some high level nightmarish torture.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

That's one of the things is like, disconnect is. The only word I can think of is where these people just disconnect from, like their family or grandkids.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Their spouse.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I think you have to do some mental gymnastics to justify it. Right? You got to go, well, he doesn't even remember.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

So I'm gonna.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Frank, I don't like it. I don't like it.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

All right. I don't want to talk about that anymore here.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

The spouse thing, you gotta cultivate it, dude. The people just think that they're just gonna get old, going to work out like, no, you have to cultivate your marriage, man. You got to stay in shape. They got to stay in shape. You got to do stuff together. You gotta love the Lord, you gotta pray. Yeah, man, all this stuff has to happen or the.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

The.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I mean, it happens to people all the time. The marriage goes south.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

You know what is crazy, though? What I'll say before we go on to the next thing, you could just exist in the Villages, go to the squares and have really no idea that that's happening around you.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Sure.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Because it's not like that. Like, a lot of people will hear horrifying things about the STD capital of the world, which is my understanding that the. The Village has secured that title recently.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Say it's because they answered those honest,

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

like, oh, yeah, they got nothing to

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

hide 25 year olds. Like, I'm not writing that.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah, I think Chicago's got a really high instance of aids and so. But are they willing to tell you. I don't know if that's the case. Yeah, but in, you know, in that way where you. You could go through it and not really think about the loofahs and the.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

You could have a cool life here, man.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

You know, hey, this, please. There's no black people. It's fucking great. All right, so let's get into this.

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[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

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[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

This is going to be from the New York Post. This is an interesting topic here. Whistleblower claims as a CIA whistleblower. Oh, you know what? Just put an ad right there right over my whistleblower claims. The CIA used DNA data from Ancestry and 23andMe customers. 23andMe customers in search for aliens. This is May 26th, so just. Is that today? Yeah, just today. The CIA has been accused of attempting to use DNA submitted to 23andMe and Ancestry.com to aid in their hunt for aliens on Earth. So let's read this a little bit. Does the CIA have its own men in black? Apparently the government isn't disclosing everything they know about UFOs. A whistleblower has accused the CIA of attempting to use people's DNA to aid them in their search for extraterrestrial life forms that are allegedly living in our midst. Shout out to all the the starseeds out there. Homosexual.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

He's like an alien guy. Talking guy, right?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

This dude, yeah.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Who's that guy?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I have no idea. He looks like he's from Seinfeld or something.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Definitely not a dude that knows the Lord, if I remember right. I remember his interview.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Not a dude that knows the Lord. He doesn't look like a dude that knows the Lord. He looks like the scientist from Jurassic Park. Remember the fat one?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

He kind of does.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

It's weird too, because he also looks like he's been plucked out of 1998. The quote. The CIA wants to hunt them down. Said science fiction writer. Oh, that's who we're going to. Fantastic. Jason Reza Georgiani.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I feel like I've seen him on an interview or something.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Okay, here we go. To say while discussing the so called top secret government program in an episode of the podcast American Alchemy. They never talk about an episode of the podcast Nephilim Death Squad. But American Alchemy seems to be getting a lot of traction lately. And it's very strange because I never heard of that show at all. And now all of a sudden it's like the biggest show in the world. Georgiani claimed that he was alerted to this bug hunting initiative by army veteran Lynn Buchanan. Was that. Is that really how you. Is that Buchanan? Did I just nail that?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I think that was good, dude.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Hell yeah, man. Who claims he was a psychic spy

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

guy from China trying to steal your mind.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Don't do that. Don't do Red Hot Chili Peppers, by the way. That guy, very gay.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

This guy?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

No, the lead singer of Red Hot Chili Peppers. Yeah. He's also dating like a 19 year old, which I'm gonna. I'm gonna go out and say, it's weird, dude. Yeah, it's weird. Yeah, he's like 50 something years old and he's dating this 19 year old. She looks like a high school kid. And I go, that's weird. You're a weird guy.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I don't even want to know that. I just want to think about him.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

When you listen to those songs, you go, these suck. Like, the. The melodies are cool, but the lyrics, I'm like, this guy is smoking and making music.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

He nailed some stuff, like Way Ahead of time, dude.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

He talked about some things that are like catch phrases. He's like a tagline. And you go, that tagline resonates with some aspect of reality. But then he goes on to just say a bunch of gibberish. Smoke. So this guy, Lynn Buchanan, or girl, whatever, is a psychic spy with the CIA's Remote Viewing Program, which investigates whether individuals could use extrasenso perception to conduct a recall, conduct recon on distant objects, events, or people. And, you know, we talked to Seth Kick later and he's a big proponent for that shit's not real. And what's happening is you're being introduced to what is effectively a fabrication by the spiritual realm. They can. They can control a lot there, so they can make a lot of the visuals that you think you're seeing. Under the bridge was a banger, though. It's a. It's a good song song. But I don't know, am I the only one that just doesn't like that guy? Who, the guy from Red Hot Chili?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

No, no, I don't. I don't know anything about him other than what I knew about him 30 years ago when I was watching MTV over the summer and just thought, like, oh, man, these songs are cool. And I saw the Chili Peppers on Ecstasy and it was wild. Like when Flea comes out with the bass, dude, there's like an earthquake, dude.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

You know who else I think sucks ass?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

But he probably is super sketch, dude. He pro. He's been in the Hollywood world because he was on like the Fonzie Show. I remember that like, like, yeah, the. What was it called?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Good Old Days, Whatever.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Happy Days of Fun Day Monday. He's on that as like a teenager. So yeah, he's probably been in that game for a long time. And who knows, maybe he is super Sketchesaurus Rex. But I'm just saying it was like music from my childhood.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

So I'm like, sublime sucks too.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

You've been saying that lately.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I've been thinking about it. I'm like, Sublime sucks 40 ounces of freedom.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

He's just saying, you know, by the time you get done with 40, you feel free.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Well, it's weird to just have this dude because he's like a white dude and he's doing reggae and then he's speaking Spanish. And I know you're a product of like the environment that you're in, but all music is like super simplistic in the way that reggae is. So it's not really like hyper talented. And the lyrics are just like, it's music to, I don't know, slam H2, you know what I mean? Like, it's not. There's something about heroin music or drug music that I've really grown out of and don't appreciate anymore.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I never was a big Sublime fan, dude. Everybody liked it because the shirts look cool. But I had the shirts, I was like, they're all right.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Well, he has that song the wrong way. And when you really think about that song, it's like, who dedicates all of this? You know, you got to write the music for it. You got to write the lyrics for it. You got to perform it over and over again. And the song is from the POV of a grown man who has sex with effectively a 14 year old girl. And he talks about that. Yeah, he talks about wanting to liberate her from her drunk, abusive dad and her brothers who are also her. But he can't get over the fact that that was tight.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Oh, I don't like that.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

And I'm like. And. And we all go like, oh.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

One song that I would skip to on that CD was it starts out down in Mississippi where the sun beats down in.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

That goes hard.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah, that was like where the sun

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

beats down from the sky.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I was like, disco. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

The rest of them, they give it up, but they never rest.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Why?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah, that goes hard. I'll give you that one.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

But the rest,

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

whoa.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

You're good at that, dude.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

So let's see what else we got here. Green was notably part of the Remote viewing program in the 1970s. But the. But left the intelligence agency long before the founding of the DNA detective sites. Okay, so he was.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

What are those creatures supposed to be? Those are aliens. I don't know what the something.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

These are just AI generated graphics. Yeah, I don't know. You know what Sparrow? You're a white woman. Of course you think Sublime is great. I love you, but you know, I gotta be, I gotta be honest with you. White women loved Sublime. Buchanan had allegedly learned of this so called campaign after being approached at a dinner by three individuals claiming to be normal Nordics, tall blue eyed blonde. Allegedly. I love that. So here the. They can't even get this right. Like look this down here are the tall blue eyed Nordics. They don't have hair or anything like that. So that's interesting. So the tall blue eyed blonde and allegedly telepathic visitors from beyond that said they. That are said to currently be living amongst us, quote, they live in like small towns in Colorado Rockies, Turkeys. And they pass because they look like tall Scandinavian people.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

All right. I mean, you know this idea that. I don't even really want to read the rest of this but this idea that they are.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

That's a creepy robot dude.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I know this is all just AI generated, you know, graphics for. For no reason. I don't know. I mean, I guess what we're faced with is there was a time where Black Rock rock purchased like 23andMe or something like that. And they said no, Black Rock. Nope, that's not. Well, I mean.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

And they said basically, I think, you know, the, the fear was that Black Rock maybe was going to trade our genetic information with if they were gonna, let's say engineer something in a gain of function research lab.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

And you want life is in the blood. You start shipping off your blood to people. I don't really like even getting the blood blood samples when they, you know, the doctor wants to see your blood work before they like look at you and stuff. Yeah, I don't even like that, dude. Yeah, I don't like the whole like giving out the blood.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

No, I, I agree. I think that.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Well, I'm not worried about it just feels a little creepy and weird.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Jehovah's Witnesses have a real hard line against that.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

They do, yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Dude. I remember so when me and my wife were first together and you know, it was real early in the relationship so we hadn't really discussed discussed to my. I mean we had known each other forever and, and we had been together for a while, but we hadn't had to cross any like really heavy bridges, you know, because you, it's not a super old relationship.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

And then all of a sudden, all

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

of a sudden we're having a baby and the, the doctor says, you know, you got to sign the blood transfusion paperwork. And she goes, no, because her mom is there and her mom's looking at her and, and basically she's like, oh yeah, I'm not going to sign the paperwork.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Which is what? That if they, if you all of a sudden they'll put somebody else's blood.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Like, yo, during this you could lose a ton of blood. If something goes wrong and you need a blood transfusion, you got to sign off on it. And she didn't even talk to me about it. And that was when I first discovered. I was like, oh, because she used to be a Jehovah's Witness and she still had those hang ups at the time that like, oh, damn, they don't, they're really like that with the blood. And I was not religious at all. I'm just going, if my wife needs blood, like that needs to happen. You know what I mean? Because I'm not gonna.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

But she's like, no, I'm not taking somebody else's work blood.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Well, it wasn't even that sort of a hard stance. It was just like her mom was in the room and her mom was still a witness. And so it was kind of just like the pressure of that. It wasn't something that she was thinking through.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Weird, man. It's intriguing, dude. If the life is in the blood and you put somebody else's blood. I don't know. I don't know. I'm not a scientist. It just seems weird. I just, I, I definitely don't like the idea of sending my blood to 23andMe or whoever they are. No, say, yeah, take my DNA and my blood.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

But of course they're doing nefarious with it, right?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

They would have to, man.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

And, and I don't think they're looking for. It says so in that article, it talk. It's basically about them looking for aliens. I don't think that's what's happening. I think they're looking for that bloodline.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

What bloodline?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Well, that, that serpent seed bloodline, whatever. This Nephilim bloodline, this thing that these people who are in this royal, you know, these royal families.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Wait, wait, you think? Oh yeah, maybe. I'm just saying they're just taking the blood and they can like create stuff with it because they have their DNA now they can do, you know.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Well, I'm saying if they are searching,

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

maybe they are looking for a specific blood to be like, dude, we got some.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

So there's some narrative within Alien Disclosure that there is a technological component and a psionics component and they're trying to pair individuals up with technology that they can't use.

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[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

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[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

And it's, it's unique to people's genetic code code. So if you're of the correct genetic code, you can use the technology. So the, this is all highly speculative, but the idea that the, some aspects of the shadow government have their hands on technology that basically turns to dust in their own hands and they can't use it. This comes out of like stories that people have been sharing but they can find certain people that some people can use it. Right. And I don't know, I don't know what to make of that. I don't really, really. I tend to think that that's probably. But, but then again, most stories come out of something that's interesting and something that has a little bit of truth to it. So you know, you look at these royal families and they're obsessed with genetics. A lot of the governments of the world, you know, Israel obviously is going to be obsessed with genetics. This idea of trying to what to

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

trace back like what tribe they're from.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Sure, sure. Yeah, yeah. So. So there's a lot of, of reasons why the CIA would have an interest in 23andMe. It's a genetic database of how many people. I mean my dumbass did ancestry because you know, I'm, I'm named after a guy that was put up for adoption and my mom's dad left when she was little, so there's like, people in our family that are just gone. And you know, there's kind of this idea of like, well, well, know what did I come from kind of a deal, dude.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I've already accepted that somebody rad was in my bloodline. Dude, there's definitely some badass.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Oh, sure, sure.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I don't know who they are. I don't wait to know from 23andMe, dude, but I know like, some badass dudes. Like, I better represent the bloodline, right? Like, right now I represent the bloodline of Christ. Sure, I'm in the kingdom of God grafted. Also, even my, like, natural bloodline. There had to be some badasses back in the day. I don't know if it's a hundred years ago or 500 years ago or a thousand years ago, but. But like, there's definitely some dudes I want to make proud. And from my bloodline, sure.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Well, my, my curiosity got peaked and I ended up doing that. And, and I found some interesting people, but. But, you know, nothing like that. So the idea that they're doing anything with this is the same thing with the Mormons. The Mormons are obsessed with genetic material. They believe, I guess the, the higher. In the Church of Mormonism, whatever, the Latter Day Saints, the upper echelon, whoever's leading the. That allegedly, this comes from Heidi Love. She showed us the articles. I don't remember. But they can trace their bloodline back to the original tribes, the. The 12 tribes. So who.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

But who can't? I'll bet.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Like, but also, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter because there's no, like, genetics doesn't matter. Lineage doesn't matter.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Right? We're saved by grace through faith.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

So there's no reason to. Especially to be a religious organization who claims to be Christian and then to be clamoring over your DNA is like, how the. Does that even make any sense? And look, to be interested is one thing, but to then like, dedicate millions and millions, probably billions of dollars and get tied in with the government and have a mountain full of come or whatever the hell they're doing.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

It has to be nefarious.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

It's like, dude, this is about Christ, right?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Well, just imagine if you're. Sometimes I like to hear these stories say, okay, imagine if I was reading this story in the Bible. So what's the story now is like there's some institution, a religious institution, claiming to represent that somehow it's tied to God. Let's just Use quotes when we say God.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Okay.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

And they're collecting a bunch of blood from all the humans.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Imagine if you're reading that in a. By. In the Bible. Like. Yeah, this isn't a good. This isn't good, dude.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, it sounds nefarious. It sounds. It sounds. What. What would you call it? Like evil mastermind levels of nefarious. You know what I mean?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

And the humans may or may not know that what they're doing is nefarious.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Right.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

They should just be being puppeteered from the unseen Realm. And they're just doing it. And maybe there was just a lot of money in it.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Many such cases reasons.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

But then the unseen realm has got other plans.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

So this is Tim Burchett. He's been one of the guys that's doing all this disclosure stuff, and he's talking with the. The blacks and he's saying that there are actually eight different alien species. By the way, I do want to say. Say that all of the. The. The. The. The black people who are new ag must be really upset because for the longest time they're like, yakub made the white man. We are part of an alien species. Like, that is a huge narrative in really. And, and so far they're like, well, there is tall whites, but there are no tall blacks, bro. Black people must be shout out to Billy Carson. He must be freaking the out right now. Here, let's see what this is.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I've heard. I've heard the definition of about eight different species. I don't know until I see it. I shake hands or paws or whatever they got.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Okay, now let me. You think he's gonna say any of them black? Any. Any of those species black?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I'm. I'm, you know, I. I get sent a lot of material and I see. I get a lot of pictures and videos and people want me to come out to the house and see something. I'm always afraid I end up in a freezer in North Carolina. Carolina. Doing a family of cannibals will get me or something. But no, I, I'm. I'm very cautious about that. I've got a bookshelf full of books that people have sent me. You got to read this. It explains it, you know, and what it is and what's going on. And I, you know, I'm really cautious

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

about says, is his legs crossed? No, dude, that's his giant dick. That's what that is in the middle.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I've heard. I've heard the definition of about eight.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah. I Mean, you know, I've heard eight. And if you go into some of these things, it's like, I've heard up 60, 60 different species. And I don't. I don't know.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

They're just getting the narrative going. They said, okay, here's the four. There's an insectoid, there's a gray, there's a Palladian, and there's a dinosaur. And they're like, yeah, but this other guy said, oh, man, there's up to eight. You know, let's get this conversation going. Let's get the people, like, talking about it, you know, because the one guy at the water cooler, he leans in, he says, hey, man, you know they found four aliens.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

No, no, no, there's eight.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I don't know. Honestly, it's a huge thing. I don't know how the black community is ever going to recover if none of these aliens are black. Well, they'll say that they were the original species, but then what would happen? Oh, my God.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Ah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

If that happens, then you then. And then the narrative is like, well, we were seeded or genetically modified. Then all of a sudden, black people have been basically primates, and that'll be. That'll be really rough for them to accept. And I don't think that that's true at all. But if you're going to accept a New Age deception, and they say, hey, well, the tall whites, they came down here and they genetically modified you. And. And you go, go, well, what was I before? They go, you monkey.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Okay, so I don't like that. What about. What does Nancy say about all this? Is Nancy still there?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Nancy, I'm here.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Well, which, which one of the aliens do you like most relate to?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

The tall whites? Oh, yeah, that's right. That's definitely right. The mantis.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Oh, I see what you're doing. Yeah. Okay, you're being nasty. Okay. I thought we were like buddies today.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Well, which one?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I called her Mantis the other day because she kind of reminds me.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Why, why would you want to relate with any other ones? There's, like, the reptilians, there's the mansions.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Oh, good point, good point.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Am I, am I, am I wrong? As soon as they were, if they were like, we also have the thick blacks, I'd be like, they're evil. Right? Like, they're the evil ones.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Very tall whites, Trump would make.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Those are the evil ones, right?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

100.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

It sounds exactly like Trump would say when he's like, yeah, a group of the people in America, they're voting for him. He's like the tall whites, the tallest

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

whites, the thick blacks go around the galaxy stealing bikes. It's a shame. What a bad thing. All right, here, let's bring this up. This is a kind of an expansion on it. I guess somebody here is going to claim to. Well, this is. I like the way that it's worded. Somebody goes, this guy. This guy is really weird, by the way. John Stewart. I don't know if anybody's following him on.

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[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

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[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

He came out recently and he's like, something bad. Something bad is coming. They did something with certain cern. And everybody goes, hey, why would you vague post about something horrifying coming with CERN if you were really actually concerned, Wouldn't you say what it is?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

And he goes, my mistake. They've released an entity. CERN has opened a portal, released an entity into this realm. They can't figure out how to send it back.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I go, how long ago?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

It's very recent. We could actually go through his page. I'll see if I can find it. But you kind of go like, okay, that's fascinating. And then I stop and I look and I don't see anything else. I do think CERN is supposed to fire, fire up June 26th. So exactly a month from today, we're

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

gonna fire up, like, fire up again.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

They shut it off and did repairs, smash some particles. Yikes, you know, whatever. And then it'll be down for a number of years. If I'm not mistaken. I think it'll be down for two years.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I have to run to the back real quick.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

You have to go, yeah. I'll be like, you gotta make a pps.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I'll be five seconds.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Okay, I'll hold this off, guys. If you have any questions, I might source some of your questions. I might look at them and. And decide that they're not. They're not good ones, but we could do that. Think people shouldn't donate blood? Oh, I don't know. I've never donated blood. I have. Someone's got my. My blood in them. Yeah, could be. It could be bad. The life is in the blood. You put old blood in or young blood in old things, it makes them young. You put old blood and young things, it makes them old. You put organs into transplantees and they often have either memories or cravings or strange things associated with the previous owner of the organs. There's a lot of stuff there that would give me pause, but I just never. I have never thought about donating blood. You needed money, huh? No, I did it for free. I thought I was gonna save someone's life. You just gave your blood away all willy nilly. I did. I was young. Huh?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Huh?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Tinfoil tiara says, why are these guys obsessed with entering our butt portals? Yeah, I don't know. Whatever. Aleister Crowley found something in there too. Somehow inside the tuchus lies the means to reconstitute or rearrange change this. This reality. I don't know. I don't know why they would. What's in the butt? It's very funny that God hit it in the butt and that Jews told you that's where your G spot was. That's really funny. Oh, there you go. Alchemical will take your. Your blood. Isn't that funny? That is kind of crazy when you think about that. They're doing butt sex magic and the Jews are telling you that your G spot is in your butt. Butthole. And then recently an article comes out where they go, that was never true. It was never true that the G spot was in your butthole. They just wanted you gay and doing that. The Jews. Yeah. I don't know who said that it became. But it became a widely rumored thing that chicks would throw around. So.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yo, do you want caramel crazy? That's 27 grams of protein or chocolate? Chocolate protein brownie for 25.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I don't want any of those chocolate things. You don't understand. You're like offering me crack.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

No, they're sugar free.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Protein doesn't matter.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

It's just five grams of protein.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

The idea of. Of sugar.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Oh, okay.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Me all up. Thank you. I go home and I make, you know what I have for a snack? It's really good.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Beef.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

No, no, I do tuna because I like tuna. And you just like tuna.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

You like the taste of tuna?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah, yeah. Tuna mayo, canned tuna. Yeah, yeah. Tuna mayo, cracked black pepper and green onion. And then I slice tomatoes, and then I put the tuna on the tomato and I eat it. Because something really magical happens when mayonnaise touches tomato.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Huh?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah. It's really good. It's crazy good.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

A blt? Yeah. Mayo.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Just makes homemade mayo that crushes. One thing about mayo, though. You got to be aware. Yeah. Jess makes so many mayo, can only

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

drink so much of it. It.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

No, you got one week, dude, in

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

the front before it goes.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah, well, you got one week. If you open a thing of mayo and it's eight days old, you're like, oh, yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Oh, horseradish. Yeah, I have some horse. Horseradish is a hard word for me to say, but I have some in the store.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

That mayo will sit on a shelf, not even in the fridge. Oh, yeah, bro. So, like, what. Whatever they're putting in that dude gotta stay inside me. I mean, it just seems crazy.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

The produce has stopped going bad, which is really crazy to me, and it stopped going bad. These are good years ago.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Don't do that.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Don't eat that and smile at me. Tell me that it's.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

It's high protein and, like, low calories. Oh, yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah. Cherokee Indians were tall blacks. Yeah, but. But that's the. The crazy thing. I talk about this often how, you know, you're not on X, so you don't see the. The We Wuzery, but black people was everybody. So, you know, we've all had our history kind of obfuscated to some degree. Right. Even if you look at, like, mud, flood stuff and the orphan trains and all that in the World's Fair.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

You guys ever had that guy on?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

He's coming on soon. He had to reschedule because something happened him. But he did reschedule. We're gonna have him on soon. The improbable dreamer.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

And, like, that guy.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

So. So you could say safely, like, yeah, our history has been tampered with. Tampered with. That's a good way of putting it. And we all have that in common. But black people have done a fantastic thing where rather than, like, even try to figure out who they really are, they just say, we were everybody. So they were Irish people. They were ginger.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Gingers.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

We was. Gingers is a real big thing. Of course we was. Nephilim is also a thing. We was aliens is definitely a thing. We was Kangs and Pharaohs. All of them were. Which is really interesting. They go, we was Kangs. Our people were Pharaohs. And it's like, no, that doesn't make sense. Like, there was some Pharaohs in Egypt. But most of the people were like, slaves or there's a caste system. So you were, you know, whatever. Like, not everybody was pharaohs. You can't just claim, Claim you were all pharaohs. That doesn't make any sense. Also, are you reincarnated?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

The Egypt thing's weird too, because, like,

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

how dare you, with your mouth full, eating. Eating brownies.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Joseph's brothers mistook him for an Egyptian.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Joseph, black. He was black.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

He's Jewish. Well, so Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, his brothers come. You know, that whole story. They. They throw him in a well. He ends up going into Egypt. He becomes second in command behind pharaoh, Grow. And then his brothers come to see him. He speaks through an interpreter. He doesn't want him to know that he knows the language at that time, which, I don't know, I guess we would call it Hebrew at the time because Abraham was Hebrew, but, like, they mistake him for an Egyptian.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Okay, so that's interesting. There's a lot of.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Moses gets mistaken for an Egyptian too. So, like, I don't know if they were both black or if they were both white or if they were both somewhere in between, but they were close enough. Enough to where Hebrew.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Got mistaken for Egyptian.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Well, that is the thing that's interesting because then they also go like, we was Jews. Right? Like, if you look into the. The black Hebrew Israelites, they believe that they were Jews. I'm not even saying that they weren't. That's actually really fascinating. I find them to be some of the worst people ever. Especially if you're going around the streets in New York City. The black Hebrew Israelites.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Oh, well, that's two people groups that you kind of know, right?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I have a disdain. Well, you know what it is? It's like, if you go through the city, they'll scream at you and they'll scream at you about race mixing and they'll scream at you about being white. But they have enforcers. So they'll have, like, giant muscular black dudes that are there to, like, also intimidate you, just to fight with you

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

over your skin tone.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah, yeah. It's crazy. It's actually awesome. And. But what's really great about that is to be both the Egyptians and also the Jews is to be both the captor and the slave. Slave. So they were everybody. They're gingers, they're slave owners, they're slaves, they're aliens, they're Nephilim.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

So they're not saying anything.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

They're not saying anything.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

They're not saying Anything.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

They are having fun.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Okay, that's cool though.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

They're having a lot more fun because. Yeah, look, we've all been lied to about history and they said, you know what, dude, let's just make it up.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Watch the news today. If they l. If they lie that much on the so called news. What do you mean? They're telling us the truth for the last 2,000 years.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah, no, I, I agree with that.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

It's just like people that say the timeline's not even right. That like. Sure.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Well, there is something with the calendar. It's like you're supposed to have 12, 28 day months and instead they've like, moved some around.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

That can't be right. Because if it was off by that many days, then June wouldn't continue to feel like June. I mean, you know what I'm saying?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Oh, that's a good point.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

June would feel like January. It's like. Okay, so that's a great observation.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Freezing in June. That. So that can't, can't be right. But I mean, I don't know the science.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Well, no, I think that was simple. Simple? Oh yeah. 28 day months. 13 months.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Okay, 13 then maybe if it is.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I don't know.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

But I don't know. But if that throws it off, then, then all the months would start feeling different. Like June and July and August wouldn't continue to be the hot months, I guess.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

You know, having us out of sync for so because the probably is like, you know, you have a circadian rhythm and the stars are put in the firmament for timekeeping and signs. So, you know, maybe if you're, if you, you're think you're in one place, but you're really not because the, the great sky clock says otherwise. I don't know what that could do. I. I don't know.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

All I know is I keep a digital journal. It's not a diary. I'm a man. So it's a digital journal called Instagram for like my food forest page. I'm not trying to get any followers.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Oh, guys, go follow the food.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Food forest page specifically. Keep it. So I have a digital journal and I can check every year. Like I was picking nectarines off this tree.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

On May 3rd. Let me check. Last year. Oh, and it always is consistent. So I don't know that like the thing isn't off right now.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Maybe it's not. Well, guys, I see you're complaining about us not reading the chat. If you said something important, copy pasted. Say it again. I'm looking now, but I'm not going to go back in the chat because it'll kind of disrupt the flow of things.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I'll watch the chat for you, Raven.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

All right, go ahead. I'll. I'll allow it. What's the Instagram page? It's called Food Forest 352, but it's Food Forest 69420.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

The whole reason I have it is just to gauge, like, okay, when was this stuff? Right? Is it way off this year? Like, what's happening? What's there? Like, this year? It's way off because we had temperatures and the teens.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Pieces of. Both Z Man and. And Scott. Terrible pieces of. Okay, here, let's. Let's bring this up. Keep an eye on. On the chat, Nance, because I don't know what simulacra says. Pick me. I want to know if generational curses are inherited with blood and plasma donation. I don't think so. No. And even if it is inherited, it doesn't matter because it's already been paid. Paid for. So you could still. But you do. I think you have to call that out.

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[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

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[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

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[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

You have to declare.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Sure. You have to do it anyway, though, whether it's your own blood or somebody else.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Either way. Yeah.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I mean, you're.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I know you get a little bit squirrely on the idea of Deliverance, but that's kind of like the way that I've come to understand it.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

What do you.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I know because you've said it before. You're like, hate it didn't. Isn't that what you said?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Deliverance?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

No, I mean, as long as it's biblical. Like, Jesus isn't like, counseling demons out of people. He's casting them out. So I. I mean, I'm not saying there's not a place to ask a demon its name. There's a place for that. Jesus Context for that.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah. But sometimes. What did you call it again?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Deliverance.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Sometimes deliverance is like counseling demons out of people.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

People.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I don't know that there's biblical context, but that doesn't mean you can't do it.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Well, I don't think that it was. That's not the way that I came to understand deliverance, or at least when I went through. It's like this declaration, like praying the blood of Christ over, you know, your blood, your bloodline, right. Your. Your family, but also declaring that you. You sort of break these bonds that. That could. Because it's like you have this faith

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

in Christ just does that. Like you have to apply the blood. Right? Like. Like if the example is on Passover and they had the blood and they had to take the his up and they had to apply the blood, they weren't saved because they were Hebrews. They were saved because they applied the blood to the doorpost.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Right?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah. I would say the New Testament equivalent is faith. Like we applied the blood of Christ by faith.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Right.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

But.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

But does. Do you think then it helps?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

It all do say, yeah, dude, like even reading a Bible, demons are leaving you.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Sure.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Demons inhabiting you. If you're not born again and you're reading a Bible, demons are leaving even from that dude.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Here. There's two things I want to address. So Dave Burns asked this. What fat does she mix in her mayo?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I want to say she mixes it up. Shout out Dave Burns.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Dave Burns is the man. Yeah.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Avocado oil or olive oil, but it's. But all it is is an egg.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Do you know what tastes better? Because I think the olive oil might taste better.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Sweetie, are you in the chat?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I don't think she's. She watches this show here. Let's see what else we got. I posted a looks maxing picture of David earlier, and that's what I see when I see David. I don't know where that is. Oh, I think that was posted on. Is that you, Q? That was a very funny picture that made me feel bad about myself. Thank you. Mother horse eyes. They're asking about mother horse eyes. They want mother horse eyes to happen again.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I don't like it.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Today is Tuesday. Tuesday she was dating it. I think we might have time this. This week to. To do that, actually. I know I have. I have my son's graduation this week, so I got to figure something out. But we might have a day this week where we can do it. Okay. So here, let's bring this up on the thingy and We'll. We'll comment on it. And this says this guy is 100, a thousand percent, which is more than a hundred percent, telling the truth about the grays. It's the only species I am allowed to research. And he's telling the verbatim truth. I don't know who the. This guy is.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

That's a lot like. Like if Jesus said don't swear, let your yes be yes and your no be no. He threw in like a bunch of other things to emphasize that he's telling the truth.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

He's definitely. He's. He's super serial. Okay, let's see.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Rays are. Is that. They used to be a parallel reality.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I feel like right there, as soon as this. Did that facial touch. That. That is dead giveaway. It's not a dead giveaway because sometimes your nose is itchy or whatever. Whatever. But there is something in. In. It's a physical tell. When somebody is lying, they'll often self soothe. Either you'll see like an arm touch or something like that because they feel nervous and afraid because they're, you know, vulnerable because they told a lie. Or they'll touch their face or their mouth. The nose or mouth. There is a big tell, but it's not always a.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

This is interesting though. This kind of screws the whole thing up for me. And one, it says the truth about the gray. G R A Y. And then it says what about the raised Gruy. It's a little sketch. Yeah. When they spell gray.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Wait. Yeah. Yeah. I never know which one to. I don't. If you're talking about the color, what do you use? They taught me with the E. Growing up in Japan? No, here in the US what do

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

you mean in the US what do

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

they teach you in Japan? What.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

What city?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

This was in Arkansas. I went to a private school in Arkansas. I feel like she's like a Japanese instead. Insurgent.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah. Or spy of something.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah, yeah. That's what I mean. Yeah. Yeah. Planted in the center of the country and. And then, you know, insurgent just sounds

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

a little more rough. But spy is just like.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Spy's a little softer.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah, yeah. Find out about their noodles. Find out if they really like wasabi.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah, it was. It was a white squat. Was the only half breeder sort.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Half breed.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

She's a nephilim is what she's saying.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Oh, she's not.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

There was one black guy. I'm sorry to hear that. Yeah, that's upsetting. You think you would go pretty far to get away from him. And then you Find out. I actually saw a video recently here. This is funny. I want to get Matt's reaction before I play this. We. So this is. Guys, remember, maybe if you're a Timeline Cleanse enjoyer, this might have also happened on the Raven, but I think it was Timeline Cleanse. It was a video of a black dude, right? And he steps out in front of the camera. Camera. And he goes, want to act like ain't no black people in Alaska. And then he goes, you're. And all of a sudden, all these black people start pouring out from the edges of the camera, and they're all, for some reason, going, yeah, what's up? What's up? We in Alaska. What we out here. But. And they're all doing it the same, so it's very intimidating just to be like, hey, we out here. You can't fucking escape us. No matter how far you go, no matter how quiet and cold it is, you can't get away from us. That's exactly what it was. I think at least you guys remember that video.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

You guys.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Okay, here, let's. Let's bring this back up.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Boom. Rays are. Is that. They used to be a parallel reality version of Earth. They used to be human. They destroyed their world. They had to mutate to survive into what we now see as the grace. They lost the ability to reproduce. They had to shift into other parallel realities where human DNA was still viable, like ours.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

But, bro, how the. Are you saying all this? That is.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Well, who is this guy? He's a guy who's got a track record of saying competent, relevant stuff.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I have no idea. He's got a suit on, and he's. No idea. Actually, I've got no idea who this guy is. But it is crazy to say this all with, like, 100. Yeah, like, what's the word? Certainty. And I. I do think it's an interesting parallel, because demonic spirits operate best when you believe that they're you.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah. Pride. Well, yeah, that's pride.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Right. When you. When you identify with that thing in your head that said says you're a piece of. Nobody loves you, you don't deserve love, you're irredeemable, all that, that's when they start working on you.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Sure.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

So if you're schizophrenic, that's how that kind of, you know, process goes. It's interesting. The same angle is being taken here, like, oh, Grays are us. Grays are you. You know, when you just can't bust nuts anymore and you destroyed your planet, and that's why they're coming back to warn us about destroying our planet, by the way, while they take us and they forcefully sexually assault us and they fill us with terror and fear and they paralyze us.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Who is he talking to? Like, is this on? I feel like this just some guy on a tik tok. This is not, like, a relevant thing.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I don't know. I mean, that guy who was allowed to study him says a thousand percent.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Correct.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

1,000.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

In, like, a classroom. Dude, he's just, like, filming himself.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I have no idea.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Let's see what else he says. And use that to create hybrids to perpetuate their culture.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Has this come to you in bits?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Somebody relevant?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Golly. What in the hell is that?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

That's a person.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

That's Jewish. 100%. That is a Jewish woman. I have never seen a woman more Jewish in my life than that woman. Chat Is real. Is real. Holy crap. Pieces over the years.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Was this an early. No, it's.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

It.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

He.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

He did lay this.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

This out a few years ago. But more and more detail has been coming out over the years about why this is happening, how it's happening, and why they're helping us. They're noticing we're making the same mistakes, and they don't want us to have to make, so.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

They don't want us to make the same mistakes, so they gotta rape us.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah, they're just trying to help.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

They're just trying to help. Yeah.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Just like in 2020, like, the government cares so much about you and your health. That's why you have to wear a mask and get injections. We care so much about you.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

It's always like. It's an insane. And it's really crazy, too, because what this does is it's trying to paint the grays as good guys. I really thought they were gonna do. Grays are definitively the bad guys. Now we got to be saved by the Nordics or whatever this is. Even Timothy Alvarino would go, no, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, because he suspects that the grays are bad guys. Isn't she from the Big Bang Theory? I'm pretty sure that whole cast is Jewish. They all look very similar. God. Good God. What a horrifying duo to get your information from, huh? He worked on iRobot and Iron man and PIR, like, as an actor or. And Pirates of the Caribbean. Yeah. He is a visual artist.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Oh.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

In a spiritual medium. And a spiritual medium.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Are you kidding me? There you go. That was the missing link.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

A spiritual medium. So he's channeled all this, as always, as always, this is how it goes. They're always checking, channeled.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

So when we say where to get his info, that's where he got.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

An entity.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Entity. Entity.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah. Because she was saying something to the extent of like, what did he say? Or how did he. He was, he was saying it as if somebody explained it to him.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I think I was just so blown away by her Jewishness that I didn't even hear that.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Who was, who was explaining it to him? An entity.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Entity.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah. Okay, there we go. The same mistakes and do the same thing that turned their reality into the grace. Humans are trying to figure out right now how to coexist on a planet that has shared resources. And we cannot for the life of us work collectively as a species. Right. Big problem when the survival of the species requires global cooperation. Yes. And that's one of the reasons I think we're about to have open contact.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

So there's your. There's your premise, by the way, for, you know, one world government, you know, one world religion in one world cohesion. And, and that'll definitely. That model right there that this dude just laid out is definitely going to

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

go like, they're gonna come save us.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Christians are.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Not running space.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

We're running out of food, we're running out of water.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

But that's the same thing that they've always said, but they've always attributed like a different calamity to it. So it's going to be nuclear destruction or it's going to be a hole in the ozone that's going to kill us or it's going to be global warming rising, the tides, it's going to, you know, do this and that, the other thing. And then every time they've made a prediction addiction for as long as they've been doing this to us, but us in space or fake space, it's never come to pass.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah, but the food thing, I think they could pull it off, dude. Because American people don't know how to grow food anymore. So if they did shut off the trucks and stuff.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Oh, sure.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

It would be very quick. People would be in trouble. I mean, it would have to be manufactured. They would have to find a way to stop the. The trucks from running the boats from running all the way that food gets shipped. But like, people can't make food anymore.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Sure.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

People don't know how to grow food. So some of this stuff is like, yeah, you got to do your thing, man, and like, get yourself prepared.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Am I wrong, though? Because I look at that. And it's like, even if you put that on mute, I'd know something was wrong. Just given the way they look. Just given the way those two people look.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Somebody called her Blossom. Like, Blossom from the TV show.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Somebody said, a nose like a toddler shoe, which is crazy as hell. But, look, man, I don't know. Call it discernment, call it racism. I don't know what you call call it, but I look at that video on mute, and I go, yeah, this is. Something's wrong here. I don't know. I don't think. I think God made ugly people lie.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

But then on top of it, it's like he's a spiritual medium. It's like, oh, that makes perfect sense. That fits.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is a lot of what we're gonna see. You know, a lot of new age people are going to clamor towards this. This is, you know, in very much the same type of person that I was arguing with over these last couple of days in convince, where it's like, you cannot be convinced that the Bible has any veracity, and you will accept any other narrative no matter how many holes it's filled with.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

By the way, how long do you think it is until, like, the eight. Like, I don't know, what's the next thing they show us? An alien. And, like, when. Like, when is the thing where they say, hey, the aliens are here to save us? Like, how long is it till that starts to unfold?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Well, that's an interesting thing.

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[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Wade says. Oh, and Benjamin has a theory that lying causes dementia.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I would totally believe that.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

It's interesting because as a kid, I would lie.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

And then you got to remember your

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

lies, and it causes a lot of fear.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I used to hang out with people who lied a lot. Yeah, Especially when I was on meth.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I knew a lot of people that lied a lot. It's exhausting.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

And you'd be with them where they tell this lie, and you knew it was a lie, but then they'd be around this person, so they had to tell the story another way. And you hear this person a third time and then the fourth, and they've just created this spider web that they live in, and now they're stalking it. Dude, it was like. Like, I'm stressed.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

You've weaved your. And yeah, it is stressful, especially when you love that person.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I've known people that I lead to dementia.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah. I've known people that I loved. Right. And that, like, I had to sit there and watch them do that to themselves. And if I was a better friend or a better whatever, I could have said like, hey, what are you doing here? But it was so. It pained me so much to ignore address like, hey, man, I know you're. You're lying about everything.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Because I could see that they weren't going to concede and they were only going to lie further.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

It's interesting where it says that God will send them strong delusion that they'll believe a lie. And the verse right before that says, because they. They did not love the truth.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

That's what I said to Vincent, man, where I was like, look, you know, at some point, he might have asked me somewhere in the neighborhood of 30 questions that I answered.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Without being a dick. Dick. And that means that you had 30 hang ups. 30 hang ups that were just addressed. Doesn't that make you go like, damn, maybe. Maybe I need to reassess this. But the fact that he didn't even have that notion showed me like, this is not about finding the truth. This is about confirming your bias that Christ isn't the way, that the Bible is wrong and all these things.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

That's cool, though. You went on a show, but I said, but I was like, dude, I'm good now.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Well, what I said was like, yo, man, like you once, I said at the top of the show, you got to be careful, because God has a history of sending strong delusions to people that don't want to see the truth. Because God seems to give you what you want. And if that's what you want so bad, you don't want the truth, you want this other thing. All right, here you go. That's what you want. If. Especially if a thing's been revealed to you. You know what I mean? Like, I didn't. I don't know, man. It was. It was a bummer. It was a bummer to see. And maybe he'll come out of it. I hope he does come out of it, but. Oh, that's nice.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

There you go.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Tinfoil. Tierra. Where's Amy, who's.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Who's posting the stuff up on the thing is Nancy.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

She's doing her job.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Why. Why is she posting the nice things about me?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Oh, I don't know. Because I like you.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

She's the sweetest man. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

All right. She's a insurgent. Let me see. Do I have anything else, or should we bring it in for a landing? The little girl, the grays, the thing, the doogity doo. No, that looks like that's it here. You know what I'll do? I'll do a quick scan through the timeline, see if anything jumps out.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

You do not want to see meth

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

mat children who are circumcised. Okay. This is interesting. Immediately, something jumps out to me. This is great.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I learned how to juggle when I was on meth, though. Like, that is one cool thing that I learned just being tweaked out all night, like, throw knives and stuff. You ever see me spin the knives? And I learned that on meth. Learned how to smoke Newports. Like, it was just like, a lot of crazy stuff.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

On psychedelics, not psychedelic. I want to say no mdma. I would do a of lot.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

A lot of knife throwing, not a

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

lot of knife throwing. A lot of, like, physical feats that I would not have attempted when I was not on mdma. And I would have a lot of success. I remember one time there was a dead tree. Ever came across a dead tree, and you, like, even though you're giving it the shakes and pulling like it's not going to come down. And I was all up on ecstasy, so I tied a rope around it, and my buddies, it was three of them, they tried pulling the thing that. And they couldn't get it. And I said, I got it. And they were like, you can't do that. You're by yourself, yourself. I ripped holes through my palms.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I believe it, dude.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Ripping the tree out of the ground with the rope, and I got it.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I saw you punch the thing at the mall the other day, bro.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Dude, I'll tell you what. That's. That's a short man's game. Punching the. The bag because of the leverage in the. In the way that it works out. But I set the record on all of those things. And I can tell you they're all calibrated the same. They're all calibrated the same. I always get about the same score, which is interesting, because I wouldn't have thought that arcade machine mean you punch the bag.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

No, it's gotta. Dude, if you're playing Street Fighter 2 and you go down.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

No, no, that's Street Fighter.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Like, it's gotta be the same because

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

there's high scores and it's Street Fighter, so there's a uniformity across Street Fighter. I would have never guessed that the punch game was, like, calibrated all the same way.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Gotta be.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

But it's. It's a short man's game because there's, like, the leverage and the way that. The thing is, I see big guys

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

hit it hard, too, bro.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

It's just. You shatter it.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

No.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah. Damn. Who shattered it? Might have been in Guy Ngannou. Might have been Francis Ngannou. Somebody that made sense when they shattered it. Shattered those things. And I was like, whoa, bro, that's. That's different. Who's your favorite Street Fighter character? That's right. You're in the presence of a record setter every time, man. Oh, one defeated me. I don't remember where it was, but I was really pissed off about that. Couldn't beat it. I remember Woodbridge, New Jersey, you always

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

win them, like, every.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Oh, yeah. I set the record everywhere I go, except for one place, Woodbridge Bowling Lanes.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

How many times did you hit it to try to beat it?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Oh, my God, a lot. And when you do that, you're swinging so fast, all the blood is going to your fist. So after, like, the third shot, it aches so bad sometimes. I've hit it and jammed up, like, all my fingers in my knuckles.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

First punch the hardest one or the second?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

No, it's like second or third.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah, you kind of like.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah, you warm up. You figure it out. But I love those things. I love going around and setting those records. Okay, here, let's. Let's put this on. And this is. This is interesting as hell. Let's go. There's many. Many other.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

How old is this?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I'm sorry, this. I think this just happened. I cannot listen to this guy without laughing.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Well, because there's guys who have made

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

fun of his voice.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I know, but this guy crushed dude, like, leading up. I don't think he's doing anything now, though, right? Like, he's.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

He captured a couple black racers in somebody's backyard. The videos are going viral. And so, yeah, I mean, you know, some people are too afraid of snakes to touch him. He was. He grabbed two black racers.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Rubio got weird, bro. There was a time where Rubio talked like a normal person and everything was cool. And then whenever he ran against Trump that first time, which I guess that would have been 2016, he just seemed like somebody coming off Oxy's. Dude, he'd have that weird voice. He had that really strange voice thing. And just kind of, you know why

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

his, his voice is like this, right? Supposedly.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Why RFK Jr. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Vaccine injury. Yeah,

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

dude. Everything that guy was leading up to the election, I was like, yo, this guy's crushing. I can't wait for him to get in. But it's the same old story. They don't actually do anything when they get in.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I think it's the funniest that he sounds like that. But he's also jacked. That's really fun. There's many, many other confirmation studies. There's two studies that show children who are circumcised early have double the rate of autism. It's highly likely because. Because they're given Tylenol. So, you know, none of this is positive. Out of all children who are circumcised are twice as likely to have autism. That is very funny to me.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Not like for the babies tied to Tylenol, though.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

It's very likely that the children who are circumcised are twice as likely to have autism.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I don't know. That's weird.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

We should be paying attention to eating too much.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

There's a tremendous amount of proof or evidence, I would say as a non doctor, but I've studied this a long time ago.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

You know, I met Bobby. I just think that's very funny.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

It is kind of fun.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Meet Cavern says it's not funny. That's because he's circumcised and autistic. But I think that's very funny. Just, just that, that whole, what a world that we live in where you go, of all the things that are potentially creating autism, you know, injections, yada, yada. Circumcision. Circumcision is, is makes you 100. Get you a hundred percent more likely to happen. Wieners.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

But no, the Tylenol thing is a problem, dude. Like Dr. Ron and Patrick did the deep dive on it at some point and sure, like, if you're using it, you know. Chronic use.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah, man.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

And she was like, yo, women who use this during the cycle, that would be one week out month. That's chronic use, dude. It causes tons of problems. Yeah, tons of problems.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

My wife has an issue right now where she can't stop taking Advil because she's in constant pain with her back and to the point where it's like debilitating and we can't get it fixed because we can't figure out what the Wrong with her. They did an MRI and there's like a bulging disc. And there's some other.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Did she do the red light therapy at the gym? Do you guys have the black card? Red light therapy is supposed to crush

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

over here has red light.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah, and there's massage things there too, which I'm not. Not really. Like, I thought it was kind of not right to do massage. I feel like that's too comfortable and luxurious. Like, you shouldn't really get down with that. But it's like 20 bucks a month and so you can lay in the thing.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

No, they try to jerky off.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

What? No, I'm saying, like, if you work on the farm, your back is like jerking off, dude. And then the workouts that you're doing, squats and the things across your back, but you go.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

And you go like, ah, my shoulder. My. My traps. And they go. Pull on your dick. And you go, no, no, no, no,

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

no, no, no, no, no. Not my.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Dude. Human in there.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

You just sit in the chair.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

You too.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

You had the chair.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Tries to jerk you off too.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

You need the inversion table too, bro. For the back issues. Hanging upside down, like, is a life change.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah, well, the life changing. So we were looking into that. I think I want to get this one that attaches to the doorway and it pulls your neck because whatever hers is, is high.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Get it?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

So it's not like the lumbar hanging upside down.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Life changing. Yeah, it's. It's staggering how sore your back can get.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

And then if you start to just

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

do it every day, even when you're

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

back, she's taking Advil every single day, multiple times. Sciatica. No, it's not sciatica. Maybe. No, I don't think it's sciatica. She got the thing. Like I said, there's a bulging disc. There's a slightly fractured disc or something like that or.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

What's Ali owl plant's secret then? Come on.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I'm not joking. I get over bolding dick.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Stop it.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Corset. Corset. What? Oh, to like, squeeze. Yeah, but if it's in your lower back, I could see that. If it's squeezing you and it's expanding your. Your vertebrae. But, dude, I'm telling you, she's been taking Advil every day, multiple times a day for like two years.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah, that's not good.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

It's crazy as I think it's destroying her gut. Her stomach is always up too. I'm like, yeah. And then we just can't. Every time she stops, it's just, you know, debilitating pain and. And all this stuff. All right, I think that's all we got.

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[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Liberty, Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Yep. That's all we got.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

You got. That's all the videos.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

That's all the videos. It's over now.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

No, I thought we had other stuff. Dude, no.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

It's an hour 42. You've already done three shows today. I don't want to.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I felt terrible there. There for a minute, but I really just had to go to the bathroom. Really?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

You made me. You made poops? You did a poops?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah. Have a. Have a protein bite.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

No, I don't want a protein. A protein bite. What do you want to talk about?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Well, you know, there was that thing that happened today.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Man, you just say that. There's nothing that happened today. You can tighten it in the area where the disc pain is. So it's. It's. It's up here. Like, I don't know. The chat. If you look at me, it's like, up here. So that's why I'm thinking there's like a doorway. One that kind of like hangs from

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

your jaw and pulls your up, too, then. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Pulls on your neck.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Gravity is just. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I don't know. Yeah. Like. Well, no, not like a noose. Different. You know, different from a noose. When will Johnny Woodard in Interview be rescheduled? I don't know, dude. We tried, and then Johnny was like, dude, I'm sorry. And we went back and forth, and it just kind of fell apart. And I don't know. I gotta reach out to him.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

What's his deal? Johnny.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Johnny is Tripoli's co host.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Oh, cool.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah. Yeah. I love Johnny Wood. He's great. But, yeah, man, we gotta find something, because you try to go to the. The Chinese. You know, the massage one. And it was for my wife. And then the lady kept going, I jerk off your husband? And I go, no, not for me. Not. Not for me.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

For. For her.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

And she goes, I jerk off your husband. And so we go, maybe this isn't the place for. Say that for us. Go for wood flooring, Matt.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Go for wood. You know, like, what they made the art.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

No, I know.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah, yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Apparently, that only grows in Florida.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

What is it? Are they. Are they talking about making floors out of it?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

No.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Is the. Is that specific wood? Is it

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

super buoyant?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I forget that. No, I'm trying to remember.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Like, made of gophers.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

They don't call it gopher wood today. Whatever that tree is, it only grows in Florida. Okay, let's do, like, at least 10 minutes.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Okay. I'm riffing right now.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah. Questions and answers.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Chris Cornell had one of those in his closet. One of the little Asian masseuses that jerked him off.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

No, he's talking about an inversion table. Telling you, dude, it's gonna save her life, bro. Get an inversion.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Inversion table.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah. Hang upside down because it's gravity.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I know, you guys. No, no, no. We had one, and it just wasn't hitting where, because that's, like, all.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

It's the whole back. Not up here.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Not up here, though. Not. Not up here.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

It's the very top.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

It's like. Yeah. Basically right where the neck meets, like, the shoulders is where. Where it is.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Okay. I think it would still help, man. It's the Florida terrain.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Was Nancy working a massage parlor? No, I don't. Not when we found her.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Positive. She's never worked in a massage parlor or done nails or anything.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Oh, she's done nails. I don't like touch. I don't like touch. Because of your time at the massage parlor.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I don't like touch.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I don't like touch. Get Brian of demon erasers to fix her back. Yeah, maybe she's got some shadows, shadow serpents coiled around her vertebrae. I don't know.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

You don't give her a massage, bro.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah, but it's not. It's. It's, like.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Doesn't matter. The husband touched. No, no. Definitely healed.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

But an mri, it's bulging discs.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I don't care what the MRI says, bro. You keep doing the thing, man. You do the rub, you get the lotion, you make sure she's good. It's very healing.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Dude, meat cavern. Said rude. Oh, he's still listening. Back to when we said that he was circumcised and autistic. And I'm very sorry for that. I don't mean to.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

How long ago was that?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I was, like, 10 minutes ago. Wow. Traction will fix it, I promise you.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Like, simulacra times.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Is a doctor Simulacra just Don't get back surgery. Yeah, yeah. She knows that because she worked at a chiropractic office where she thinks is where she hurt herself after an adjustment.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

And Simulacra is not a doctor.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Simakra is a doctor. And. And she would watch a lot of people get. Get, like, railroaded down that path of, like, oh, just get surgery. Because he was getting, like, a lot of money. Yep.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Next thing you know, you take the pain meds. Next thing you know, your life is shot.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Next thing you know, they fuse you. They fuse your stuff. They send you to the Chinese place, they jerk your husband off. It's crazy. You don't want to go there. Yeah. The door noose might be on the right path. I think so, because it targets it directly, you know, if you do just a inversion table. The problem was, it's because I used to have one really great for your lower back and, like, up to, like, maybe the. The middle of your back, but as far as, like, your neck and goes. It does nothing. Does nothing. Can't get my neck cracked anymore. Panda says. I have a question for Matt. I was reading Esther last night and came across casting lots. Yeah, he hates that. Casting lots again. And I was curious enough to go on a deep dive. Is this divination? We do not cast lots anymore because we hear and see the will of God now, though. The Holy Spirit or through the Holy Spirit.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Short answer is, I know Top doesn't like, there's a short answer is, I don't know because, like, you go to.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

You're supposed to know everything.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

You go to the apostles in the book of Acts and cast lots. Yeah. They say, hey, we got to get somebody to take Judas spot. Like, he's out. So. And they cast lots.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

What's casting lots?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

It's like a thing, like drawing straws. I don't fully know, to be honest,

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

but it's Drawing straws is divination. It just feels like that's how you get to.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

It's like a thing where, like, you. Everybody picks one or something and then boom, it landed on him, so he's the one.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Oh, it's like spin the bottom.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Seems like divination or like dice. Yeah, like a chance thing. But I think we're not supposed to

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

do any chance stuff. Huh. Like flipping a coin is a kind of a cheap chance thing.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

No. I don't know. We'd have to go back and look at. Yeah, Yeah. I think that's accurate Simulacra times. Who is a doctor and isn't a doctor? Yes, the Answer the dice was the will of Yahweh. Yeah. Like, I think that is where that started from. Was that there was something, man. The Urim and the Thumum is another weird one that we might. If we didn't know anybody would say, oh, that's necromancy too. The Urim and the Thummim.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Okay.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

The glowing stones. So I. I don't know. I don't know.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

We.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

We could do a deep dive on it at some point. I never really studied out the whole like casting lots. But I've always been intrigued by it. Every time I come across it, I'm

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

like, I like to flip a coin sometimes.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Feels like the same spirit. You know what I mean? Flipping a coin, rolling dice, spinning a bottle, kissing your friends in the mouth. It's the same stuff.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

What's the odd magic? Definitely a wild thing. But like, what's odds that something in the unseen realm isn't messing with the dice when you throw it?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Right.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Right thing when you flip it. Or messing with.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

If it has enough energy to open up your cabinets, you can flip your around a little bit.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Okay. Somebody asked that there's wood fired pizza in the villages. I don't know. Why are they trying to come to the villages?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Wood fire pizza in the villages. I think there is a place. It's actually not too bad. I don't know if it's wood fire.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I don't eat a lot of pizza unless I'm on the show. So.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah. I don't have like a go to pizza spot.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

AJK says I went to my chiropract, worked with fighters years ago, and he worked my bicep for 20 of the most painful and erotic minutes of my life. All the upper back tension.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

But it's a bulging disc thing, so I don't know. They're related.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Gopher, what is closest related to Cyprus? Huh? Who would have known? Cyprus is a weird one too, man. Because it grows like in water. Like it can be in water.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Okay.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

It's got to be near water. But we've got a giant cypress tree in our front yard in no water. There's no around.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

That's interesting.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah. Huh. They get the really cool cypress balls that are full of the cypress oil.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Spin the bottle and throwing dice at Bro Grove. Well, I do think it is. It's. It's all like. So if you're gonna make a distinction between casting lots and. Or if you're going to call that a form of divination, then really anything that leaves a thing up to what we call chance.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Sure.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Can be filed into that same category. And then if you think about, like, the spirit of gambling and. Right. Like the spirit. Spirit of, let's say, Las Vegas, like Sin City. What is. What's going on at Sin City? What's, like, infamous for gambling, you know?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Right.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I don't know.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Like, well, even, like the whole concept of saying, like, good luck.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Even good luck.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

People are saying, like, hey, don't do that. Like, for the longest time I didn't, but I just. I don't know.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I try not to say, like, I got lucky.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Like, I try to say, yeah, I will tell somebody. Good luck. Because I understand in our culture.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah, but you use it in a negative connotation. You'll go like, good luck. Good luck with that. Hey, you don't want to do, hey, good luck. Like, you've done that a lot. I've heard that. Yeah, you do, because you're really nasty like that.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

No, I'm not.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Drunken softball at Bro Grove. The Dangerous retards. You know, there's so many, like, you know, baseball fields around here in this immediate area. We could feasibly do that. We'll get some jerseys and. And do Dangerous Retards. But I don't think anybody wants to play softball in 90 something degree weather in the middle of August unless we get the lights on. The stadium lights. And it's nighttime. But I don't know how that works. I don't know if you're allowed to do that. I know it's always on.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Dude, softball would be a blast.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Softball, yeah, but not in the. Not in the daytime. Not in the heat. You know how crazy that would suck?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

You'd have to have some booze.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I mean, some of these people smell bad.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah, really bad.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

There is a cool disc golf, like, right around the corner.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I have a cool disc golf right behind your head. I know you see it? Did you look at it?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Hope it goes well. Yeah, I'm familiar with it. It's got eggs on it.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah, it's good.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Raven eggs.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

That was from. From Scott. Thanks, Scott. Marco. Polo in the spring.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

That would be a blast.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

No, everybody gets handsy in the water. That's gross and gay. And then that little Chinese lady's gonna come out and try to jerk off everybody's husbands, and that's not good. Do that.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

He's not playing soccer, man.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Oh, Qui Gon. You mean.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

No, it's Qui Gon.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

No, it's. It's a. It's the dude from.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I'm from Florida. And I'm an athlete. I will dominate anyone at any athletic competition.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

He's black, so it's that actually true. Luck comes from the Gaelic word. Gaelic. Gay luck. Gay luck. Damn, dude. You know what's really cool? There's this video, right? I'm watching Owen Benjamin. He's got this unbelievable balcony that he's made at the top of a mountain that overlooks his. What do you. Wait, I know.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Herman. I threw out all the mushroom and Aston. Wait, what did you just say?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

What happened? Hold on.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I didn't know. I. Idaho Hermit. Still has.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I threw out all the mushrooms and acid that were collecting dust in my closet the other day. Feels good to have that gone. Oh, that's interesting. That's how it works with psychedelics, bro. You'll have them and hold them for a long time, just, like, waiting for the moment.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Like, you just got rid of them. That's why.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

That's awesome.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

So I feel like he's been in the game for a long time, but I guess you never know.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Well, here, this is. This is a really interesting story.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

So Cleon played college soccer.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Okay. You're not allowed to look at the chat.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Who's your. Who's your pro team dude?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Listen to this story. Listen to the story. All right, so. No, no, look over here.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

You gotta.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Look over here. You gotta lock in. You can't do this anymore. I'm gonna hide the chat. You want me to hide the chat?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

No, I'm listening.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Okay, so Owen Benjamin, he built a deck that is at the top of a mountain, and it overlooks a valley. It's unbelievably beautiful. And he podcasts from there. And I'm watching this clip of him, and he has this moment, this epiphanous moment where he's talking about toiling and working with your hands and how he thinks it draws you closer to God.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Amen.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

And he's, like, going on. And he goes, I wonder, like, you know, you think about, like, manual labor, right? Like, and he's just using, like, kind of this word play. And then he stumbles upon, like, Emmanuel as, like, you know, Mexicans do manual labor sometimes. Their name is Emmanuel. And then he's like, what the does Emmanuel mean? And it means, like, close history. Yeah. God is with us. He's like, holy Emmanuel. Labor. Like, closeness to God is laboring.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

That's one of the things. If you live on a farm and you're working with animals. Animals. You're getting very close.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

I miss it because I have nothing to work on. I Have nothing to work on? Well, no, I mean, like, I have nothing to. To. All right, go ahead. You want to read the chat? What happened?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

I just want to know if the English Premier League team. If he's, like, really a soccer player right here.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

He says yes.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

No, he did. Who's his team?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Okay. I played for the college in Chose town. That's cool. We don't know who that is, though.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

No, no, no. But if you're really a soccer fan, you have a favorite English Premier League team.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Is that true?

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Yeah. Like somebody just said, Manu. Yeah. Means business. 420. I'm excited for Manu. Like, moving forward, too. What's the name? Just got the assist record. They're just exciting to watch. Dude, the new coach.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Do you think schizophrenics actually see the spirit realm and that's why they are freaking the out? I wonder why eye contact sets them. We need Jerry Morzinski back for. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We should invite him to Bohemia Mean Grove, huh? So I would say yes, because part of being a schizophrenic at some of the more egregious, you know, stages of it includes visual hallucinations. And so I don't think they see or perceive the entire spiritual realm. Although I'm not saying that there isn't somebody out there who can in some way, shape or form. I'm just saying that commonly they're probably seeing elements of air bleeding over, like, bleeding into.

[Matthew Hefner (Merchant of Brown Water)]

Like, when you're on acid and mushrooms. You're seeing stuff that's there.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

Yeah. Yeah, I think that that's. That's the case. Not a good time. Has anyone seen Green Street Hooligans? It's about soccer inks. Okay, we got to wrap this up now, because now we're at the stage of the show where we're talking about soccer. Is there anything that you want to say in. In closing,

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[David Lee Corbo (The Raven)]

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