Coming to Christ w/ Anthony Graffeo

Summary

Podcast Summary: Nephilim Death Squad – “Coming to Christ w/ Anthony Graffeo”

Date: June 9, 2026
Hosts: David Lee Corbo (“the Raven”), Top Lobsta
Guest: Anthony Graffeo
Theme: Conspiracies, the journey to Christian faith, and spiritual warfare through a biblical lens

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Episode Overview

This episode of Nephilim Death Squad features Anthony Graffeo, a long-time conspiracy researcher and newly passionate follower of Jesus Christ. The conversation moves candidly (and humorously) between their personal awakenings, critiques of modern culture and Christianity, and raw experiences with the supernatural. It’s a deep-dive into how conspiracies and counterculture led each of them toward Christ, with frequent references to hidden history, prophetic deceptions, the role of Israel, generational curses, and personal spiritual transformation.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Personal Awakening and the Conspiracy Landscape

• Anthony’s Origins in Conspiracy (03:44–05:14)
  • Anthony became “awake” in 2001, living near NYC. He began with classic “red pill” works like Behold a Pale Horse and was radically shaped by the events of 9/11.
  • “I’ve racked up 22 accounts deleted on Instagram.” – Anthony Graffeo (04:34)
  • Social media deplatforming and the consequences of speaking “dangerous” truths.
  • The role of conspiratorial hip-hop (Immortal Technique, Vinnie Paz) in shaping early beliefs.

2. Music, Culture, and Political “Ops”

• Influence of Radical Hip-Hop and Disillusionment (06:00–09:54)
  • Initial radicalization via hip-hop, only to find many artists embrace pagan or anti-Christian ideas.
  • Notable moment: “This guy’s gotta lot of really bad ideas... He looks at Christianity as if it’s just a control mechanism.” – Corbo on Immortal Technique (06:30)
• Falling for Political Operations (12:11–14:47)
  • The guys discuss falling for both the Trump phenomenon and QAnon, recognizing them now as manipulative psychological operations.
  • “It was like Mossad the whole time... It’s literally just a repackaged Operation Trust of the Bolshevik Revolution.” – Anthony Graffeo (13:25–13:37)
  • Disenchanted by the Trump “golden idol” video and recognizing new forms of “false messiahs.”

3. Patterns of False Salvation and Conspiratorial Disappointment

• Recycled Psychological Operations (17:38–21:37)
  • Recognizing recurring tactics: Anonymous, Galactic Federation of Light, Tupac as a “returning messiah,” etc.
  • “They just continually give us one [hero]... We have to be the hero, right? That’s the journey we’re supposed to be on.” – Anthony Graffeo (21:15)
  • All of these operations invert/pervert Christ’s return, hijacking innate human hope.

4. The Question of Israel, Prophecy, and Kabbalistic Influence

• The Modern Israel Dilemma (29:08–32:49)
  • Can modern Israel really be “biblical Israel”? Hosts and guest explore histories, genetics, and conflicting doctrines.
  • “I’m an Italian. I don’t give a what Italy does... Why do we have this connection to anybody?” – Anthony Graffio (29:57)
• Boomers and Christian Zionism (31:21–32:49)
  • Frustration with generational divides: older Christians are captivated by pro-Israel doctrines, while younger people are increasingly “awake.”
  • Social and theological implications of “tithing to Israel.”

5. Manufactured End Times and Prophetic Inversion

• Are We in the Prophesied End Times? (36:02–41:53)
  • Questioning the authenticity of “fulfilling prophecy” via man-made events (wars, pestilence, technology).
  • “I think they’re trying to build the Third Temple and fake the End Times prophecy right now.” – Anthony Graffeo (36:54)
  • Modern technology (AI, weather manipulation) allows for manufacturing “prophetic” disasters.

6. Spiritual Warfare & Supernatural Encounters

• Generational Curses and Spiritual Encounters (53:17–77:35)
  • The ongoing reality of the Watchers, the serpent seed, and spiritual battle as described in Genesis 6/Book of Enoch.
  • “We are dealing with the Watchers still to this day—their bloodlines are what are controlling everything.” – Anthony Graffeo (52:54)
  • Stories of astral projection, sleep paralysis, generational curses, and demonic experiences within their own families.
  • How a lineage tainted by the occult (e.g., Sicilian nobility, secret societies) requires breaking with Christ’s blood.

7. Anthony’s Testimony: Coming to Christ

• Supernatural Confirmation from the Book of Ezekiel (63:49–67:53)
  • Anthony’s psychedelic/meditative experience: encounters a biblical cherubim (lion, eagle, ox, and human heads).
  • Later, he randomly opens the Bible to Ezekiel (“I believe in the Bible”—67:37).
• Deliverance from Occultism (77:54–89:03)
  • A story of almost “selling his soul” via occult literature, a bizarre apartment encounter, and supernatural intervention by a Christian friend.
  • Witnessing the tangible power of Christ during a moment of surrender.

8. Faith, Submission, and Filling the Spiritual Void

• Discussion of True Satisfaction and Spiritual Submission (97:04–104:41)
  • Seeking fulfillment through drugs, sex, occultism—all failing to fill the void only God can fill.
  • "That fleeting moment, that little bit of pleasure, is not destroyed by that emptiness and void... that void, you have to find a way to fill it." - Anthony Graffio (101:23, 102:57)
  • The challenge of humble submission to Christ—true strength lies in dependence, not autonomy.

9. Final Reflections & Hope

• Navigating Both Worlds (107:37–108:52)
  • One foot in the conspiracy world, one in the church: “Conspiracy bros” think you’ve been co-opted by faith; religious people think you’re too wild.
  • “Two things you’re going to learn: Jesus Christ is real, and they hate him.” – Anthony Graffio (108:52)
• Finding Joy in the Fight (110:45–111:07)
  • “I’m having more fun than I’ve ever had in my life… there’s no reason to be afraid.” – Anthony Graffio (110:45)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Anthony on Waking up after 9/11
  “There’s these people in Hoboken, they were dancing and I was like, what’s going on?... That started sending me down rabbit holes at a really young age.” (04:10)
• Crowley, Spirit Portals, and the Occult
  “On [the wall] is a portal, so I enter the ethereal realm... He gives me a book - The Book of Lies, Aleister Crowley.” (79:06–81:46)
• Meeting a Cherub in a Ketamine-Induced Vision
  “This being approaches me—it had a head of a human, a lion, an eagle, and an ox.” (66:07) “I just opened up the Bible… the book I open to is Ezekiel. It literally explains the exact same being that was in front of my face. I believe in the Bible.” (67:37)

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Important Timestamps

• Anthony’s Origin Story, Social Banishment: 03:44–05:14
• Hip-Hop Radicalization/Disillusionment: 06:00–09:54
• QAnon & Political Deception: 12:11–14:47
• Manufactured End Times: 36:02–41:53
• Nephilim, Bloodlines, Spirit Warfare: 52:54–54:07
• Anthony’s Testimony: The Cherub Vision: 63:49–67:53
• Deliverance from the Occult: 77:54–89:03
• Submission to God vs. Chasing the Void: 97:04–104:41
• Cultural/Church “Outsider” Experience: 107:37–108:52
• Closing Reflections on Joy and Purpose: 110:45–111:07

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Tone and Style Notes

• Candid and Humorous: Frequent banter, friendly self-deprecation, and dark jokes (“Turns out the Nephilim are the real N-word”, 58:00).
• Raw & Uncensored: Explicit language, open discussion of drugs, sex, and spiritual experiences.
• Spiritually Sincere: Despite the “edgy” tone, the hosts and guest are deeply earnest about their journey to faith and the reality of supernatural warfare.

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Further Links & Guest Info

• Anthony Graffeo:
  • Instagram: @anthony_graffio777
  • X/Twitter: @graphenati19
  • Business: ungovernableproject (handmade beef tallow, skincare)
• Hosts: @DavidLeeCorbo, @toplobsta

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Closing Quotes

“There are only two things you’ll find out: Jesus Christ is real, and they hate him.” – Anthony Graffeo (108:52)

“I’m having more fun than I’ve ever had in my life... there’s no reason to be afraid. There’s no… what’s the worst that could happen? I die. Oh well, we’re all going to die.” – Anthony Graffeo (110:45)

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Stay curious. Stay dangerous.

Transcript

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[Top Lobster]

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[David Lee Corbo]

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[Anthony Graffio]

That's fun.

[David Lee Corbo]

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[Top Lobster]

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[David Lee Corbo]

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[Top Lobster]

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[David Lee Corbo]

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[Top Lobster]

us because they're gonna do it anyway. We have a interesting guest today. I reached out to Anthony a while back.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, this has been phone tag in in so many ways.

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

But we're, we're happy to be getting it done. Anthony Graffio. Before we get into this conversation, let's remind everybody a little bit about where they can find your work and what it is you do.

[Anthony Graffio]

So on Instagram, It's Anthony underscore graffio777. On. On X it's graphinati19. So I've been in the conspiracy world for about 25, 30 years now. I woke up in 2001. I read behold the Pale Horse. I'm from New Jersey, so I lived like 20 minutes outside of New York City.

[David Lee Corbo]

So when what happened in 2001 that woke you up? I don't understand why.

[Anthony Graffio]

What a specific year, what could have happened? Right. Like, there's these people in Hoboken, they were dancing and I was like, what's going on over here? You know, why is everybody celebrating? Like, what's going on? Yeah, so that, that started sending me down rabbit holes at a really young age. Just been searching for the truth for a long time. Been deplatformed off of Instagram, off of X. I think I have. I've racked up 22 accounts deleted on Instagram.

[David Lee Corbo]

Damn.

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah. Yeah. They don't like the truth, bro. They don't like what's your.

[Top Lobster]

Off the top of your head? What's your favorite thing you've been banned for?

[Anthony Graffio]

Oh, it's got to be the Jews. Notice any.

[David Lee Corbo]

Every single time, it's the Jews, believe it or not. Where. Where in New Jersey are you from? I'm from New Jersey as well.

[Anthony Graffio]

Oh, for real? Oh, West Caldwell.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay. I'm from kind of the Woodbridge Elizabeth area. Kind of central Jersey. Yeah. I was, I was a kid in, in Carteret. We could see the, the smoke from the towers, you know, on the, on the bus ride home. Didn't do enough to radicalize me, though. I was too little. I just said, would you look at that? That's fascinating. I went home that day and everybody was outside standing on their lawns, lighting candles. And I said, fuck's a big deal? I didn't really get it at that age. I was only 11. I was 11.

[Anthony Graffio]

I was 12.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, okay, so you were just smarter than me. Because I didn't fucking know what was going on at the time. I didn't start researching anything till a couple of years later. And it's hard to even say. There was no real catalyst. Not like a big moment, you know, 9, 11 did a. That was our. That was our Covid, wasn't it?

[Anthony Graffio]

Pretty much, yeah. I mean, you know, it was like one of like the real beacons for me was Immortal Technique, the rapper.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, yeah.

[Anthony Graffio]

You know, like, listen to his music. Just like a young middle schooler, eighth grade, like, listening to it. I was like, oh, there's. There's more to this, huh? Isn't there? And just like the Illuminati, just like all the Jay Z and all, like the. The old YouTube, before it was YouTube, you know, when you were able to like look up these things and you're just completely black pill, just looking up like Bohemian Grove and all. All this stuff. Like. So I've been doing this like a really long time, you know, I really

[David Lee Corbo]

enjoyed Immortal Technique growing up. You know, he was actually one of my favorite artists. And it took some time for me to realize that he's. He's kind of like. He's almost like an extreme leftist in some ways. Yeah, I had it out with him on. On Twitter. Not in a big way, but we were going back and forth on something and I was like, oh, yeah, this guy doesn't have any. Which is surprising because I grew up on that music. You would have thought that I would have embraced those values. But he's very much like a pagan as well. Like, he. He looks at Christianity as if it's just a control mechanism. But all those guys, you know, Vinnie, Vinnie Paz, Jedi Minds, we used to have Vinny Paz as our intro music, but we started getting hit with copyright things. But yeah, man, it's. It's almost a bummer because that music did radicalize me in a big way. You know, if you're. If you had a conspiratorial lean, it was one of the few sources of conspiracy leaning music that you listen to. And then once you start getting older, you're like, this guy's gotta. Got a bunch of really bad ideas. Really interesting.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, like bad economic ideas, you know.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, also bad social ideas. You know, this. This idea that, you know, really what it's all about. Instead of Mother Mary or. Or Christianity or any of these things, it's about fertility goddesses. That's where the true beauty is. And, and you know, he's. He's always going to err on the side of sort of pagan tribal people. And. And it's almost like the whole point of like what Christ came and did and what those pagan idols are went right over his head. Which is actually kind of remarkable for such a smart dude.

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah, I mean, I think a moral technique. Is he Muslim or.

[David Lee Corbo]

No, Vinnie Paz is Muslim, which is.

[Anthony Graffio]

I know Vinny Paz is Muslim. Yeah. It's a moral technique though. I'm not sure.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, I don't think he's Muslim because he, he does a lot of celebrating pagan idols and you know.

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Even within, you know, sort of. Muslims don't get down with that. So I mean, they don't realize whatever is going on on their end of things might be akin to that. But it's another thing to make, you know, this, this leap to the spirits that the natives were worshiping were actually like worshiping nature. Spirits is the good thing. Everything else is a control mechanism by the white patriarchy. I mean, he very much sounds like a fat lesbian woman, you know?

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

So hard, bro. Like, he hits hard that you're like, I've never heard. Honestly, that was the whole flop of the left. It was like if you just had some real on the left that were saying this in a gritty way, I. I might have been more receptive to it. But instead you had fat blue haired lesbians saying it. And I was like, clearly this is wrong on its face.

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah, like at that age I was more like, you know, just. I was more anarchist, you know, and I thought that that's what he stood for. But as I grew up and I, you know, listened to his music more and I realized, yeah, this guy's kind of a socialist, you know, like, he's kind of standing with these socialist values and whatnot. And. But you know, he did a lot of great work. So I can't take that away from him, you know, and he's still doing a lot of great work. Like, he's. He's a very. Him and Vinnie Paz are strong activists for what's going on right now, you know, like with Gaza and everything. So, you know, shout out to them, like they're still fighting the good fight. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

This guy. Immortal technique. I mean, not only does he. He stick the finger up at the music industry and he does everything in an independent way. He releases his own albums and despite not having the backing of a major record label, he's still incredibly popular. But he is going out and he's like building orphanages and shit, you know, overseas in these war torn areas. So like, yeah, theologically speaking I think he's all fucked up. I'm not going to not stand my ground when it comes to Christ. However, the, his ability to be about everything he's talking about is remarkable. You don't get that a lot. And he's, he's aggressive dude, really driven to make it as far as he have and. Or has rather and to be as successful as he is without all the Jewish backed record labels and is. They didn't like him because of that.

[Top Lobster]

It kind of, it's a, it's a testament of today's, the landscape of today. Right where we can look at the people at our side and like, because I'm, yeah, I'll say the same thing. I'm like, hey, what's going on in Gaza? Seems like a genocide. And they go, you must be a far leftist Muslim. And I'm like, no, no, I couldn't care less. Yeah, I just prefer that they don't, you know, Israel doesn't pervert America. And they're like, oh yeah, you're clearly a Democrat. I'm like, no, no, no, you have me so completely twisted. Like I'll throw you off of a roof. Like that's where, that's where my ideology stands.

[Anthony Graffio]

Oh God though same.

[Top Lobster]

It's just fun. Like it's interesting bedmates that we have for the time being as we were talking about that a little bit on the previous episode we did with Annapoleon alone. I don't want to move this over to like complete crazyville. But like she's talking about the Nephilim. The name of the show is the Nephilim Death Squad. But I'm like, you're also a stripper who's a congresswoman who I don't trust at all.

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah, but we changed her last name by the way.

[Top Lobster]

We changed your last name. Yeah, we know who we see who's

[David Lee Corbo]

Jewish by the way.

[Anthony Graffio]

Yes, the rhinoplasty can't hide it. I see it, but no, I agree, bro. I mean like the thing for me and like it's so, it's so gay to even say it. But like in 2016, like I fell for the Trump. I fell for it. Like, you know, I, I really believed in it. And like even gayer to say I fell for Qanon. Like I was.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, same.

[Anthony Graffio]

I was deep into Q. I was like, oh, we're getting saved, guys. I'm like, this super amazing computer guy that's getting information from JFK Jr. Like, and then you just realize it was like the Mossad the whole time. Like, shoes again.

[David Lee Corbo]

They're dancing again.

[Anthony Graffio]

Like, straight up.

[Top Lobster]

That's okay. I wouldn't even apologize for that because, like. And I wasn't on, like, the Trump train in 20, 2016, but I was. I was living in Brooklyn. I was living in New York. So, like, I understand that. Like, I was watching from the belly of the beast, and I was going, hell, yeah. Like, you see that guy? He's doing some shit, and it's like, that's pretty cool. Like, he's telling these people, fuck you. And it's like, that's what I felt like. Yeah, but, you know, we were naive. It was an op that's being played out over the next decade or so. I think as long as you're paying attention to which way things are moving and you're constantly able to shift, then that's fine. I would.

[David Lee Corbo]

I want to ask. I want to ask Anthony that. I mean, I was. I was into the Q thing as well, because there was so much reality to it. Right? I mean, we always say on this show, in order to sell a lie, you've got to, you know, surround it by a lot of truths. So we'll go like, nine truths and then one lie. Yeah, 99 truths and one lie. And that lie corrupts everything. And you need those truths to be able to sell it to people who are discerning. When did you. When did you get off that Q train?

[Anthony Graffio]

Dude, I gave my life nine years to that. Nine years. Yeah, because I was, like, one of the big guys. I was, like one of the decoders. You know, I was, like, doing all the time stamps with Dan Scavino and this frog in this picture and this. And, you know, like, and. And. And it's literally just a repackaged Operation Trust of the Bolshevik Revolution. Right? Like, don't worry, the secret police, they're coming to save you guys. Like, same thing. The storm, it's all the same. And, like, it wasn't until this last, you know, when Trump got in this time where it just all just really just shook me awake. And I was just like, oh, like, I'm being played like a idiot. And really, if you want me to get into it, what. What did it for me with the Trump thing was when he made that video of Trump Gaza. Remember the AI video he made?

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. Was that the one that had, like, the. There was, like, a big gold statue in it or something like that.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, yeah.

[Anthony Graffio]

Yes. And Christ, like, shook me right there. He's like, you see what this is? You see what this is? This is. This is a false idol. This is a gold. This is. This is a golden idol.

[David Lee Corbo]

Now it's a golden calf.

[Anthony Graffio]

Exactly, because you got him and. And BB Laying on the beach, drinking pina coladas. Elon Musk is, like, danc. With a. With a woman with a beard. Like, it's like, Right. Some freaky dude. So I was like, all right. Like, this. The storm ain't happening. We're not saving Israel for last. This guy's a Jew. This guy's a Jew. Like, he's. He's just, you know, like, forget kissing the wall. He went to the rabbi's grave.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Anthony Graffio]

Remember, right before he got shot or whatever. If you think that was a real thing. I don't, personally, no. Well, I don't. I think the whole thing was.

[Top Lobster]

You might not have been following us, but we were. We got in a lot of trouble with that overall, that.

[David Lee Corbo]

It was, like, the same week that it happened, we ended up on Tinfoil Hat.

[Top Lobster]

Well, yeah. We were like, yo, Sam, like, we got to talk about this. And he was like, hey. He put us on a different show. He's like, that's dangerous. People don't want. They're going to be mad if you say that. And we're like, well, yeah, it. And, like, let's look at the tape, though.

[David Lee Corbo]

And we.

[Top Lobster]

We broke it down. And afterward, he was like, yo, I think there's something to that. And we're like, yeah, dude, that's bullshit.

[David Lee Corbo]

And now it's kind of, like, safe to say we were going through. I think the episode was called Vindication. Yeah. And we were going through some of the newer angles of the Trump, you know, assassination footage. And you could see, like, it's such a photo op. They're, like, lowering the flag into the view.

[Top Lobster]

And, like, some dude runs out photographers to take the picture right before the shots happen. It happens as the shots are taken. You see the crane lower down the

[David Lee Corbo]

flag, and, I mean, it's beautiful of a shot, dude. Like, whoever. You know, whoever got that shot, right? He's got the fist up in the air. There's blood on him. It's fight, fight, fight. The flags in the background. Like, when that photo first hit the Internet, I was like, they got it, dude. Oh, they nailed it.

[Top Lobster]

But here's the thing, though. Like, we're watching and we're going, yeah, bullshit, dog. But I still made a T shirt

[David Lee Corbo]

because I'm like, I'm sold that T shirt.

[Anthony Graffio]

Making some bread.

[Top Lobster]

Fight, fight.

[David Lee Corbo]

Go, Boomer.

[Top Lobster]

Go, fight.

[Anthony Graffio]

Exactly. That's all he has left. That's all he has left is these Boomers, bro. That's really what it comes down to. But, like, with the whole entire thing with. With that fake assassination attempt and all that, it riled everybody up to go to be for Trump, you know? And, like, so many people fell for it now because there were so many people that were, like, opposition to Trump, RFK junior Tulsi Gabbard, all these people. Then you bring them in and you, like, create this, like, Avengers, right? Like, this coalition. Like, we're taking out the seed oils, guys. We're gonna stop all wars. We're gonna do this. And it's like, no, we got Jude. We got completely rug pulled. Rabbi Schmooley has pictures with all of them. Like, it's. It's. Trump is at the. You guys know about the rabbi, right?

[David Lee Corbo]

The rabbi whose grave that he went to? What?

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Wasn't he also, like, classically trained by, like, a Jesuit or some like that? Like, there's so many layers to.

[Anthony Graffio]

Oh, yeah, all that, too. We can get on.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, you know, before the QAnon thing even came along, which, like I said, I did fall for QAnon for a while because it's so compelling. But in, like, 2006, 2007, there were a couple of things that were exactly like it. And I talk about this on the show all the time. The most obvious one is Anonymous, the hackers group, because they had a very similar slogan. It was like, expect us. They also, interestingly enough, said we are legion in their slogan, which is, you know, fascinating admission there, but expect us was the theme, right? You are being oppressed by the 1 percenters, and we are going to hack and equalize the playing field and reveal all this never comes to pass. Never comes to pass, right? They. They hang, dangle that carrot in front of you for so long. Another one very similar to that is the Galactic Federation of Light, which.

[Anthony Graffio]

Oh, yeah, I got for that, too. I felt for that, too.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, me too, bro.

[Anthony Graffio]

The Palladians are coming.

[David Lee Corbo]

Backing as well.

[Anthony Graffio]

So the Palladians are coming, guys. The Arcturians, they're pulling up.

[David Lee Corbo]

They're gonna save us. There's a satanic cabal in power, and they're gonna. Don't worry. We're on our way.

[Top Lobster]

That part's true.

[David Lee Corbo]

That is true. And then the one that was just like it. But it was before it. Before all this was Tupac. And. And this is one that, like, people kind of sleep on. But, you know, you have this, like, kill Illuminati Machiavellian idea that he fakes his own death and. And he's either going to change his identity and come back and. And a lot of it was for the sake of hip hop, which. The idea that I even thought that was a. A real thing is kind of retarded. Like, I'm like, oh, they're gonna. Pac's gonna come back and save hip hop. I don't even understand that. But it was this idea that, like, he's behind the scenes and he's working on these things, and he's faked his death so that he can come back and do something greater. And if you look at Pac and you look at the early days where he's like a theater kid and he's a dancer and he's very effeminate and soft, then it puts everything into perspective. You're like, oh, this is a gay black dude.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

This was never the Thug. Unbelievable. I loved Hit Him Up. It was incredible that such a gay dude can make such an aggressive piece of artwork about killing dudes. But, you know, it still had embedded in it this idea. It's like the Illuminati, you know, Machiavellian principles of. You know, because Prince Machiavelli wrote this war book, and within it was this chapter about potentially faking your death so that your enemies could either kill each other or just die off. And then you could come back when the. You know, the dust is cleared. And so all of this stuff, he called himself, you know, Prince Mac, or he called himself Machiavell. I think he had even an album called that or some.

[Anthony Graffio]

There.

[David Lee Corbo]

All this idea that this could take place. But that is like the mo, bro. We keep getting that. This thing. Operation Trust in the. The Bolshevik Revolution. Right? Yeah, it is.

[Top Lobster]

How does it turn out? Turns out Kool Aid and pineapples and ju.

[David Lee Corbo]

Every single time the Jews dance. So, you know, it's. It's. It's disheartening in that way, because I think we are hardwired to believe that. Because Christ is going to return. Right? So there's something within us that knows that. And all of. All they can do is invert and pervert these principles that. That God has made these laws. That God has made the. The. The building blocks of reality, that God has made. They don't create anything on their own. They take those concepts and they invert them and they twist them around and they use them for their own, for their own will. And so I think that's why this resonates with us and that's why we keep, that's why we keep falling for it for sure.

[Anthony Graffio]

I mean like, because really what it comes down to is like human beings are inherently good. You know, we just want to see good things happen. We want, we just want to chill, man. Like, we just want to have a good life. Like, we don't want to be oppressed, we don't want these people controlling us. And when we hear that there's going to be some heroes, we all get like super stoked on that and we fall for it. And like this is like Albert pike, when you wanna, when they need a hero, we'll give them one, right? They gave us one over and over and over again. They continue to give us one, right? And it's like we have to be the hero, right? Like that's, that's, that's the journey that we're supposed to be on is like what Christ did for us is, is he freed us, he gave us salvation for us to love each other and to fight against this enemy. And we were warned on who they were going to be and that they would come and deceive us, you know, and, and all these people that are living under this, I call it like a turning point Maga. Christianity. It's not even like real Christianity. It's like they're making this fake sect of Christianity up, you know, where it's like, oh, I gotta give all my tides to Israel. I gotta make sure all my money goes there. Because if, if I don't bless Israel, oh man, I'm gonna be cursed. They're gonna curse me. It's like, what bro? You think God, the creator of heaven and earth is going to curse you? Because you're not self serving to a country that's the size of New Jersey that's doing a genocide. Come on now. No, maybe you should reread your Bible. Maybe, maybe go past the Old Testament, which is the prophecy of Christ to come and open up the New Testament, which is Christ came and he created a new covenant. And that new covenant is we are Israel. This, the seed of Abraham is Israel. And that's all of us. Every single person in this earth is the seed of Abraham. Because we all come from the same creator, right? And that's what Christ came to tell us is that the law of Moses failed. It didn't work. You guys, you guys failed in every stop. Anybody that could read the Old Testament and not say damn these Jews up, like, yeah, like the whole entire book, like they're just continually getting punished over and over and over again and they're still doing it to this day. Like if you look at, and it's not an anti Semitic thing to say, but if you understand Judaism at its full potential, it's Kabbalah, it's Gnosticism, they believe that God is the bad guy and that Satan is the good guy and he's the rebel and he's the one that is supposed to actually free us from this prison that God has put us on. And that's just not the truth. And that's what they, that's what all these like, mate, whether it's like Freemasonry or Kabbalah Judaism, anything that's not aligned with Christ is, you're working, you're a self serving person and you're working for Satan. That's what it comes down to. And that's what these people are doing.

[David Lee Corbo]

They have built within them. This basically works to salvation kind of a deal. And even if it's not works to salvation, it's works to enlightenment, it's works to ascension of some sort or it's genetics based, right? Which is like, no, all that's done, we're grafted onto the vine, right? Like this isn't a genetics thing. There's no works that are going to gain you salvation. Adherence to the law. If you end up adhering to the law because of your, your, you know, your love of God and you're saved through Jesus Christ and your belief in Jesus Christ, that's a different story. But it's not your works or, or your adherence to the law that's going to get you that salvation. It's been made. It's actually kind of remarkable because it's like this used to be really messy, this used to be really difficult. This used to be really convoluted. And then God was like, these people are, I gotta make this easy, I gotta make this easy. And it is, it's, you know, you said it's not anti Semitic to say those things. It's like if it is anti Semitic, then God is anti Semitic because over and over again throughout the Bible, God is very frustrated with Israel, with the Jews. Because you're right. Consistently throughout the Old Testament they're just up over and over and over again. It's really almost a story of The Jews up. And. Which is just to say, like, man. Also, I'm not saying some other people group would do better. It was like, we're humans, we're. We're flawed. We're going to up. The Jews are a shining example of that over and over again. You know, Moses goes up on the mountain and he gets the ten Commandments, and by the time he comes down, they're already worshiping this golden calf, despite being exposed to all these unbelievable miracles. The sea, partying and they're, you know, taken out of Egypt and all the plagues that took place and all the crazy. And they go, what about this golden calf? You know, I guess they're looking for expedients, something that can give them what they need now because they're suffering in the desert.

[Top Lobster]

And.

[David Lee Corbo]

But not just that.

[Top Lobster]

It's a. Because I think about the Jews a lot, admittedly, but it's like, it's, it's almost fascinating because it's a human condition. Right. Where you're putting up God's character. Because that, when I read the Bible, I, I read it for the stories, but I really read it to find out, like, well, who is this, who is this guy? Like, what is he? How is he like me? How is he different? What is his personality? What makes him tick? Or, you know, God, the Elohim, the, the entity that is God. What makes this, this guy go. And what makes him go is the truth. His word is true. So he's given a promise to these people. And it's kind of like, it's really crazy to think about, which is why I kind of pushed back again, push back against the replacement theology thing, because he gave the Jews that promise, whoever they are, whoever these clearly wicked people are that are the same from the Bible because the behavior is one to one. And they're like, okay, we know who you are. We got your promise. And then you have to ask yourself, how would humans behave with the promise of God that says, I am going to. I'm going to watch out for you. You're my people. That's my word.

[David Lee Corbo]

That doesn't change.

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

And then you look at their behavior and throughout the Bible, throughout history, 109 countries till today, and you see what they're doing. I'm like, man, it's not a surprise, but it's like, that could be me. If I'm given a promise from David where he's like, yeah, I'm not going to renege on this 100%. You get $1,000 no matter what you do you know I could take that money and do whatever I want if that's mine in my pocket, right? He's already made that promise. I know. That's his personality. It's like, man, what a scoundrel way to be. But people are like that.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, if God allowed Satan to tempt Job and to. To have all these horrifying things happen to Job, because the idea was like, yeah, but I bet you if he wasn't crushing, you know, he would curse you.

[Top Lobster]

Same thing.

[David Lee Corbo]

And God's like, okay, you think that Satan wouldn't spend. And I'm not saying definitively, like, these are the Jews of the Bible, although they behave very much the same way.

[Top Lobster]

No, it looks. They look a lot like that.

[David Lee Corbo]

Dude. Do you think that Satan wouldn't spend all of, you know, these thousands of years whispering in their ears and that God wouldn't allow it to happen? I mean, God allowed it to happen to Job. We have free will, so at the end of the day, we could always choose God over the desires of the flesh or Satan's ability to give us all the kingdoms of the world or any of these things. But of course, Satan would spend all of that time whispering in their ears. Sell these dildos, issue predatory loans, you know, make money off of pornography. Like, of course. Poison the food. Poison the food. Hey, that, well is looking a little too clean.

[Top Lobster]

You're the special boy.

[David Lee Corbo]

You should probably do something about that. Well, you know, so I don't really have too much of a problem with it, but I do go back and forth on that. On that place, Israel, you know, that little place. What is that place? Is that really?

[Top Lobster]

It is real?

[David Lee Corbo]

Israel is real? Yeah. I don't know.

[Top Lobster]

I don't know, man. It's such a crazy subject to talk about. And I've been talking about it for a fucking decade at least.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

And I still feel like the more I know, the less I'm like, I still don't know.

[David Lee Corbo]

The less I understand. I'm gonna go out and straight up say it, too. The more I know, the less I understand. Like, okay, so we have Ashkenazi and we have Khazarians, and we have, like, all kinds of people that are claiming to be Jews but are not. And then we have the synagogue of Satan and all this, and it's, like, super messy. And it's a religion, but it's also a genetic lineage. And, like, what? What? And the more I learn, the more I'm like, I don't know.

[Anthony Graffio]

They don't know. That's really, what it comes down to more than anything is they don't know. They're, they're the most lost, they're the most psyoped group in the world. Because, hell yeah, there's people that are, are living in America that think that they need to like, put their entire life into Israel. And it's like, if you care so much about Israel, why don't you move there? Why, why are you here doing parades in New York City and, and trying to impede on the American people that don't want this. We don't want any connection to any foreign entity, never mind just Israel. But I'm an Italian. I don't give a what Italy does. I don't want my money going to Italy. I don't want, if Italy was in a war, I wouldn't want my, my family to be sent over there to go fight for them. I am a nationalist. I believe in my country and I think my country should thrive. So why do we have this connection to anybody? And the thing is the loophole that they have found, because that's what they do, they find loopholes. They find, if you know anything about them, they just, they're constantly, always trying to trick somebody, even God. Like, you know, the arrow is where they have a fishing line around, around Brooklyn, because they say it's a tent. Yeah. They're always trying to trick God. So they're trying to trick the American people into believing that, oh, if, if you don't pray for us or if you don't fight for us, if you don't do this, if you don't do that, then you're going against God. And that's just not true. It's just not true. And the only people's minds that they have captivated still with this ideology are boomers. Like people like, like regular blue collar, white collar families. They're done with this. Dude, like we've never been at. Because like, you know, back to how long we've been doing this, 25, 30 years, we've never had this kind of momentum in the truth or sphere than ever before. Like, so many people are awake to what's going on and, you know, it's not even like talking about like the Illuminati or anything like that. Like, you, you lead up to this point, right? You figure out that, oh yeah, the New World Order is actually the Jew World Order, right? And then like, everybody is starting to see this now. Like, my mom, my mom's like, what the are these Jews doing? Like, you know, my mom's not anti Semitic. She's just tired of it. She's tired of seeing that our president is sucking the. The. The Prime Minister of Israel's every day on tv. She's tired of seeing her money being depleted because we're going to war for a nation state the size of New Jersey. Like, we're. Everybody's just tired of this. And this is why Trump lost all his aura. This is why Trump lost all his steam. This is why he's going to get cracked in the midterms. This is why all this is happening. And the only people that are still stuck on this are the boomers, the people that still believe in 5D chess and the paid maga shills and Jews, and that's it. Everybody else.

[Top Lobster]

Let me ask you this, because this is something that I, I feel like you don't. You don't know me at all, really. Or like, or my past. So it's like, how do I give, like, a brief breakdown?

[David Lee Corbo]

I think I know where you're going,

[Top Lobster]

though, because it's not that my mind's changed, but I'm like, I'm looking at the next op because I was there.

[David Lee Corbo]

I'm.

[Top Lobster]

I'm like, right with you. I. I understand what you're saying. And I was one of the loudest people to the point. I mean, a story we tell all the time of, like, I'm making anti Semitic jokes that are getting retweeted by Elon Musk and getting put in the fucking newspaper. You know, the Daily Gazette from Israel, where they're calling me a blood libelist. But I had to step back and be like, all right, you know, the joke was funny, but what happened here. And what happened here was an idea that time had come because I had. I've had multiple accounts banned. I've been doxed for saying Jewish owners of the NBA or the NFL going back a decade ago, and now I'm getting paid for it. When I. When I made this joke online, you know, millions of views. I'm getting paid by Elon Musk and retweeted by him.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

And responded to by him. And I'm looking around me going, hold on a second. What the. Because I'm a conspiracy theorist.

[Anthony Graffio]

Prophecy, Right.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah. They're fulfilling it. And now I'm an idiot. I'm a useful idiot in your plan because I'm helping you fulfill. And the prophecy is that the world's going to turn on Israel, right?

[Anthony Graffio]

Yep.

[Top Lobster]

But the world can't turn on Israel if they don't notice their crimes. It's just, you know, we just happen to be noticing their crimes a long time ago because they were fucking obvious and we didn't have our head in the sand. So I'm like, we're always pointing at. But the time is not right.

[David Lee Corbo]

You know, that's the thing I feel like happened is once Elon Musk, you know, got. Got Twitter, it wasn't all at once, but it was. It was very clear that one of the things that was a big theme, I mean, we had the Epstein conversation, which is the Jewish conversation on. On X, you know, over most other places. Really over all other places. Right. I mean, you're not having this conversation on Instagram really to any meaningful. Because Instagram isn't conducive to conversation really. It's that you post and then. And then people talk in the comments. But it's not like a. It's not like Twitter, Facebook is the same thing. You're not really having this. So it's like X is. It is the place. It's ground zero for this information. And I remember two years ago, my wife was. My wife. My wife was saying all these things about like, you know, you're saying a lot of crazy on X. And I'm going, I can kind of tell that everything right now is downstream from X. The conversation that's happening here will eventually, eventually happen at the dinner table. So where it seems unsafe right now, I was getting docs for this or that. It seems unsafe. Give it time. It's going to bleed out. And sure enough, it did bleed out. To like you're saying, yeah, your mom's watching Trump.

[Top Lobster]

You know, I walked into my mom's house and she's got this on the news. And I'm like, oh, like we were talking about that six months ago, but now they. Now they're dealing with it. And that's a dangerous thing because, like, you know, not to say like our parents are dumb, but like the vast majority of people when they get this information, it's like, what are you going to do with that? I just handed you a grenade.

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

What are you doing?

[Anthony Graffio]

For sure, for sure, for sure. And I think like more than anything, it's like to put a little bit of a white pill out there, right? I think it's pride comes before the fall, you know, And I think these people are actually falling. I think that their pridefulness and their haughtiness is so strong that they think that even though. That we're all noticing and they think it's part of their prophecy for Everybody to hate them. That doesn't mean that they win in the end. Right? Just because what they believe in their mind is that. Oh, like, prophecy is one thing. Right, but is there any real prophecy? Like, is it. Because my personal opinion on all this now is Christ comes back just to judge. And when that day happens, that day happens. I think the Third Temple, I think all this, like, dispensationalist Schofield Bible indoctrination and lies, I don't believe in any of it anymore. You know, I think that this is, like, their plan. I'm not saying that I don't believe in. In the revelation of what John saw. You know, I just believe that they're using the revelation of what John saw to project into people's minds and hearts to believe that we're in those times. I think that they're faking the End times prophecy right now. I think that they're trying to build the Third Temple because now you have to look at it from every position. You look at the Christian position, but then you have to understand it from the Jewish position. Right? And the Jewish position is that what they believe in the Zohar, which is Kabbalah, and what they believe the Third Temple is is that the Third Temple will be where the ruler is going to be this world ruler. Right? It's not the Antichrist to them. Like the Christians believe. Oh, it's the Antichrist, and that's when Christ will come back. But to them, it could just be. Yeah, exactly. It could just be Jared Kushner. It could just be Jared Kushner. You know what I mean? They could just build a temple and, you know, take out the Alaska Mosque and then build that temple, and then Jared Kushner could be the guy that, with the Abraham Accords, makes peace and he's a world leader. But every. But all these Christian Zionists are, like, you know, believing that he's the Antichrist and this and that. And then it says. I think it's in Timothy. It talks about, in the end times, there'll be scoffers, right? It'll be like, where's the Lord? Where is the Lord? Like, all these things have happened, they've come to pass, but God hasn't come. And that's when, like, people will fall away, you know? And I'm wondering if, like, that's what they're trying to actually do, is they're. They're trying to pull more people away from Christ by having them believe in this prophecy, having them believe that God is coming back and Then he doesn't show up. It's like your dad that doesn't show up to your baseball game, you know?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. So, I mean, I've gone back and forth with this because a lot of the question is like, I. I typically stand in a position where I go, you cannot force God's hand in prophecy. You cannot manufacture prophecy and force God to appear.

[Top Lobster]

But the other, on the other side of this question is, is prophecy. Is prophecy specifically supernatural? Or did John the Revelator just see this? Like, like, I didn't. He didn't see, I don't know the money behind making this happen, but he saw that event. I see that, I see that, and then I write that down like he's given glimpses. So I'm like, I don't know how that played out, and I don't know.

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah, well, agreed.

[David Lee Corbo]

Agreed to what backs that in my mind is the magnitude of it. So it looks like obviously a lot of this has been in motion for thousands of years.

[Top Lobster]

Right?

[David Lee Corbo]

But if you go back to like 47, the end of World War II, Operation Paperclip, the beginning of the CIA, the beginning of MK Ultra, they put

[Top Lobster]

a rocket on this thing because they're like, we got 100 years.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

And it's like, you know, 2030, it seems like people are like, agenda 2030 is when we have to do something.

[David Lee Corbo]

You have in that same area, you have the whole Roswell incident. You also have Jack Parsons, L. Ron Hubbard, you know, Crowley, Alistair, Moon Child. All that is happening right there in that cluster of time. And if you look at today's events, it looks like the machines that were set in motion back then have fully come to fruition in today's era. So agree in that way. I go, well, we're in this generation. That is the fruits of something that was set in motion back in about the 40s to 50s. And. And that's significant enough to me where I go, well, would that be prophesied about? Because it's such a big event and it's so multifaceted. It includes like this UFO disclosure, deception. It includes, you know, MK Ultra and all these other things that happen. It includes so many aspects of like, the spiritual realm and the things that were happening there. It includes all this, that was a product of the Nazi regime and all the more occultic things that they were working on. All of that is coming to a head right now. And that to me is grandiose enough that I would say, well, it. That deserves writing about in scripture. I could imagine at least that it deserves writing about in scripture because it's so big and it's so complicated. It is this, this beast system, you know, it is a monstrosity, but it

[Top Lobster]

is man made, right?

[David Lee Corbo]

It is man made. And I also wonder about that too. It's like when you look at all of the things that are supposed to befall us, whether it's a, a sort of geological event, like a, like a natural disaster event or a pestilence, or a war or you know, you name it. Well, all of these things are now to the extent that they could be created by man. Right. We were talking about HARP all those years ago. That was all bullshit. Now they're just shooting Jewish lasers from space and creating fucking weather events in the open so you can create the pestilence. We already went through that. Luckily it was a bit of a dud. But I don't have any doubts in my mind that they could generate some real disastrous virus in a gain of function research lab. And you could obviously war is man made and famine could also be manufactured

[Top Lobster]

by the Four Horsemen.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right. And you know, just, that's kind of what people from a thousand foot overview think about the elements that go into place, you know, when, when, when comes to right before the return of Christ. So I do recognize we're in this unique place in history where we actually could create all of these elements. And plus the giant machine that was kick started in the 40s and is now seemingly coming to a head in 2026. I don't know. What I will say is if you're trying to manufacture prophecy, they really gave it their all.

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah, no question. I mean like do you think like back during like the Roman Empire like when Nero was, was sacrificing people to a giant statue of Liberty and making Roman candles of people that they thought they were, they had times, right?

[David Lee Corbo]

Sure, yeah.

[Anthony Graffio]

Like how many times have people believe that they're in the end times, right.

[David Lee Corbo]

And like Nero and anybody at that time manufacture pestilence?

[Top Lobster]

I don't know, we got marrying AI wives right now.

[David Lee Corbo]

Marrying AI wives.

[Top Lobster]

It might be.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, I also don't think that the Roman Empire had. Well the Roman Empire never went away, so maybe you could say it has space, lasers. You know, there's just things that are layered on top of it now where I go, like I know every generation before us thought they were it, but they weren't hybridizing things in, in deep underground military bases. Allegedly, you know, so it's hard to fight now.

[Anthony Graffio]

It's harder to fight now.

[David Lee Corbo]

I mean it's never, it's not a, it's not a black pill doomer thing, right? Like our salvation is Christ. It's already been won. Like you can release all the chimeric hybrid monstrosities you want from your deep underground military. Military bases. I don't give a. Like I know where I'm going after this. Like we already won kind of a deal. But I do recognize like damn dude,

[Top Lobster]

Beast of the earth is.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, that's there's so many things that are so much. This includes so many more moving parts than I would say maybe unless you're, you know, you believe in like Atlantis and things like that. If they were really more advanced than us and you know, this is a pre Diluvian civilization, yada yada, maybe, maybe. Yeah. But right now where we are like in, in time and the things that could potentially be leveraged against us to create an end times, you know, piece of theater. It's pretty good.

[Anthony Graffio]

No, it's great. It's great. I mean they're doing it. They're doing a really damn good job. Honestly. Like a lot of people, a lot of people believe that we are. I mean a lot of this like whole entire Christian Zionist notion is because they believe Christ is going to come back. So they're like, they're like, oh this all has to happen guys. Like don't worry, let them go kill 500000 kids in Gaza.

[David Lee Corbo]

Like that many babies as it takes, dog.

[Anthony Graffio]

That's, that's supposed to happen. Like Christ is going to come back. So we're good. Like this is, you know, let them do whatever they want. Let them kids, let them crisis coming back. And it's like I don't think like, because in my heart of hearts God give every. God gave everybody free will, right? And I think we're still in that period of living in free will. I don't think like we're in this like prophecy of like oh, we're seeing all these signs and times and if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, you know, like I'll take that on the chin but like if with my discernment it's telling me that I think that these are man made horrors, you know, like Tesla said, we will see man made horrors. Like yeah, we're watching that happen now, right. Like you said, like they're doing all of these things and they have the power and they have the technology to do it now. You know, with this whole entire AI surveillance police state that's coming. And you know, we, if you want to Talk about the, the UFO disclosure and all that. My personal opinion, Project Blue Beam, I think that they'll, they'll definitely fake something. I'm not like a real believer in space, so I don't think there's Martians coming or anything like that. If they're, if they're from anywhere, they're probably from outer space, you know, beyond the ice wall, you know, extra terrain, extraterrestrial. I don't believe in any of this alien, but I know that they will fake it. I know that they could project the giant mother or, or even fly a giant mothership that they have. You know, like you go back to Maria Orsic and Hitler and, and how they had the Nazi bell and all that. Like this technology's been there for a long time. Like we've known all about all this stuff. But I think that like that's their wet dream though is like Project Blue Beam. Because it's like, how do you make a one world government fighting Iran? Let's go fight the aliens, right? It's like now we all have to come together. Now we all have to love Israel. Now we all have to be a part of the right? Like we all have to be a part of the Abraham Accords. Unless, unless the aliens are Jewish too, you know, and that they're like, take me to your wall. But like, who knows, you know what I'm saying? Like, so we're at this point right now where it's like they're throwing everything at the entire kitchen sink, right? They're throwing everything at us and it's to keep us like in our, our lower mind, our, our fear based frequency so that we don't do anything about it. But I think like God has given us free will and I believe that people like us going out there and speaking like this and fighting for our country and fighting for God, for fighting for Christ is the most important thing that we could do right now. Like anybody that's listening to this, whether you're in the chat or whatever, or if you watch this after, go out there and talk to people about this. Be bold right now. Don't be afraid. Like, it is not the time to cower away from these conversations. Don't be gets, don't be scared to be called anti Semitic, don't be scared to be called crazy because you're not crazy. Because this is, this is the reality. And if we don't speak reality, then you know what? History is damned to repeat itself. You know, And I really believe that what's coming for us is going to be like a Bolstrick revolution kind of style.

[David Lee Corbo]

I. I agree. You know, we have it easier than ever before. I mean, I'm sure you remember what it was like, you know, being a younger man and trying to talk about conspiracies, and it's just like, people are not receptive at all. But good luck staving off that conversation when Annapoleon Luna's on TV or Boebert or any of these people. We were just talking about a previous podcast. It's like, you've got Matt Gaetz. What's the vice president's name?

[Anthony Graffio]

Dad Events.

[David Lee Corbo]

What Was he saying? J.D. vance was saying something about aliens not long ago.

[Top Lobster]

He's saying that they were demonic. Matt Gates, I think, was saying that.

[David Lee Corbo]

Hybridization.

[Top Lobster]

Running a hybridization program.

[David Lee Corbo]

And yeah, yeah, yeah, this. This chick Annapolina Luna is. You know, she's not only on the news talking about this, but she's also on Rogan's podcast talking about the Book of Enoch, talking about Enoch and all this other. So it's like, whether or not you want to hear it, and I will say it, it escalated a lot quicker than I thought. You know, it was like this idea of not boiling the frog or else it'll hop out. I would have thought that this would have been a longer sort of conversation, but people don't even realize what's happening on TV and on these big platforms. On Tucker Carlson, they're talking about this thing. They're talking about fallen angels. They're talking about alien disclosure. And so, yeah, I agree, it is time to start getting out. Even if somebody scoffs at you and calls you anti Semitic, what are you doing back here? So what we want to do here is because our studio is in a coffee shop. And in the coffee shop, there's also a Christian library here in the back, and we've got a couple of places to record. And then we. We also record in that. In that.

[Anthony Graffio]

Where are you guys in America?

[David Lee Corbo]

We're in Florida.

[Anthony Graffio]

I'm in Austin.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, okay. All right. You got out of there.

[Top Lobster]

You got out of there.

[David Lee Corbo]

Good, good, good.

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

So, yeah, I mean, we're gonna start doing, like, these live conversations with. With just people that are here. It's really. We live in a boomer community.

[Top Lobster]

We live in the Village.

[David Lee Corbo]

We live in the villages.

[Anthony Graffio]

Oh, yeah. You guys are surrounded.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, dude. So we're gonna start just telling them the craziest, you know, and then. And then if they say anything, we have, like, our tv, our monitor, and we're going no, look like Trump's talking about this, dummy Matt Gates is talking about this. They're all talking.

[Top Lobster]

I'm pretty sure that they're in meeting, praying for Israel.

[David Lee Corbo]

They're praying for Israel right now as I speak.

[Top Lobster]

Little do they know they're in enemy territory.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, dude, it's, it's a really fascinating place God has put us. And, and I, I think we kind of are the, the tools for this particular job in this particular area. He put a couple of unhinged retards in a retiree community. And so, you know, but yeah, man, I think you're right. I think you're right. Because if not, well, what's going to happen, Laura? Lauren Boebert is going to tell them and like, I don't know what that bitch is talking about. I know this subject. I can go and talk about it, you know what I mean? Or any of these people are going to become. And I think if we haven't Learned anything from 2020, we should least have come away with one thing, which was stop trusting the experts. You don't need to rely on some other individual, you know, for your source of information, especially when that information is, is key to, you know, whether or not you're gonna die. And, and in this instance, it's, it has a lot to do with your salvation, right? Where it's like, don't, don't believe the government when they tell you space homies, like focus on Jesus Christ. And the Bible does enough about talking to non human intelligences, if that's what you want to call them. There is enough supernatural beings within the Bible that if you think the Bible doesn't have answers for everything that's outside of humanity, you're totally fucking wrong. You're absolutely incorrect. So the Bible can, you know, help you to understand these things, but also all this time of conspiracy can help you to understand, like, I think you're right. There's nothing coming from space. I think there is a high likelihood. You said blue beam. I wouldn't be surprised if it's an amalgamation of things. Blue beam is gonna be one aspect of it.

[Top Lobster]

Well, like the Jersey drones. Right, right.

[Anthony Graffio]

Lasers, there's gonna be tech bombs, all kind of. Yeah, they're gonna make it look real.

[David Lee Corbo]

Making flesh and blood underground. Yeah, they're doing that, dude.

[Anthony Graffio]

Oh, look at the Podesta's art. Look at the Podesta art. Like with the, the, the chimeras of the children mixed with like elephants and, and pigs. All kinds of horrific, disgusting, disgusting.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, they're going to release and they're going to show things and, and we're going to be, well, I mean, I'll be fine, but a lot of people are going to be really confused. The boomers, the 501c3 boomers who are praying to Israel, they're going to be really confused. The Bible doesn't say chimeric elephant babies.

[Top Lobster]

Oh, yes it does. I mean, there's a lion face man in Moab right there. Did you read that or did you just listen to the right, you know, pay your tithes message from your past?

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah, facts, facts. Yeah, A lot of eugenics was going on for a long time. I mean, the book of Enoch is a book of eugenics, like literally.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, I would say that's pretty accurate.

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah. You know, and that's Genesis one, you

[Top Lobster]

know, I, Genesis, sorry, Genesis six.

[David Lee Corbo]

Genesis six.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah. Exactly what they're talking about.

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah, yeah. And like that, that has not changed. That's who these people are. Like, this is like my, my personal opinion, I'm sure your guys opinion as well, is that we are dealing with the, the watchers still to this day, like still Aziel and all these guys are still over here and they're still, their bloodlines are what are controlling everything to this day. You know, we're still being led by these people, these things, whatever they are.

[David Lee Corbo]

That is to say, we're still in a biblical struggle and this is still the serpent seed that we're dealing with. Like, this is, it's not just like the, the Bible is a book of that happened a long time ago and you should have some reverence for it. It's like, no, it's telling you the nature of reality, the nature of the place that you live and this evil that you struggle against that everybody wants to call a different thing. It's all of the same spirit. It's the spirit of Satan. Right. It's the spirit of the adversary and it's been at work for a really long time. So, yeah, man, I, I, it's a fascinating place to find yourself and I imagine it's the same for you. You've been in this since 2001. Did you ever think that? I mean, I, I, I mean, what do you make of it? We're sitting in this time where everything that you ever looked at is somehow ending up on a major news syndication.

[Top Lobster]

How true.

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah, bro, I mean, like, because, you know, I've been telling like my parents this stuff for a long time. Like I was kicked out of schools, I 14 years, addicted to opiates. Like, you know, when. When no one's believing you and like, you're like this scared child that's like, looking at videos of like, coffins being built and guillotine. Remember that? The Georgia. In Georgia, like the dude. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Giant plastic coffins. I was like, they wasn't there, bro. Into a FEMA camp.

[Anthony Graffio]

They wasn't there, bro. They don't know about it, dude. Scary times, bro. Learning about the new world airport and like, y. All that. That, you know. So it's just like my whole life, I'm just like the Illuminati. They're coming for me. They're coming, like, just being like this schizo guy. And now it's just like, it's all reality. I'm like, oh, these guys are like, them. Like, now I'm just like. I feel like I was. I was a scared little guy like, my whole life, and now I'm just like, these guys are a bunch of. Come do it. I'm ready.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, bro. Amen, dude. When I was a kid, it was. I was the pariah of my friend group or a novelty, you know, they'd be like, hey, Dave, we'd be smoking weed in some abandoned. They'd be like, hey, Dave, tell them about the coffins. Tell them about the coffins. Tell them to tell them how they're gonna do a Same bro virus one day in a lab, and there's gonna be a. A vaccine. Wait till he says it. He says the craziest. Dave, tell him the crazy. And then I tell him. And somebody would either look at me like I was a. Or they would. Or they would be scared and. And then they wouldn't want to talk to me anymore because it wasn't. You know. And you had this overwhelming feeling at that age where, like, it's. It's happening. Like, it's gonna happen any day now. Like, any day you're gonna wake. I had bug out bags with knives and supplies in it.

[Anthony Graffio]

They'll do.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. Martial law was coming, right? That was the big thing. Martial law was coming, and I have my bug out back, but now it's in a safe with guns, and it's. It's actually very official.

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

You know what I mean? So, like, that was a really hard time for sure. It's a weird thing to square that. Like, you were kind of correct. You were just 20. 20 year. 20 years too early. Like, 20.

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's weird.

[Anthony Graffio]

We had to suffer, right? We had to suffer.

[David Lee Corbo]

It was like.

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah, we had to go through that. We had to go through the embarrassment and the shame, and it's like, it's not a win. Like, you know, I always tell people, like, I wish I was that crazy kid, dude. I wish I was wrong about all this. I wish it was just some conspiracy. It was all. And a lie, you know? Like, I. I don't. I don't want to have, like, you know, this. This moment of like, haha, I told you so. Like, no, I want to be wrong. Like, I don't want these freaks to be controlling our planet. I don't want any of this to happen. But it is. And it's just like, you got to take it on the chin.

[David Lee Corbo]

Anthony. Isn't it weird that, you know, I imagined that if it ever came to pass that the shit that I used to talk about was revealed to be true, that I would have at least some. Some feeling of, like, vindication? It would be like, yeah, maybe, like, I told you so moment. It does not at all feel. It feels bad.

[Top Lobster]

And we've had so many of those in the last three months even.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, I mean, you need my show right here.

[Top Lobster]

And we were like, like, just vindication. And we're like, how do you feel, Dave? Like, dog. Like, this is not so great. I mean, we.

[David Lee Corbo]

We named the show Nephilim Death Squad, and they're talking about Nephilim on the news. You would be like, hey, this is

[Top Lobster]

great for the algorithm. And I'm just kind of like, oh, no.

[David Lee Corbo]

Like, it's good for business.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah,

[Anthony Graffio]

I'm gonna have to go fight a Nephilim.

[Top Lobster]

I thought it would actually kill one of these things.

[Anthony Graffio]

Right, man, like what? Like, I've been talking about these things for so long now, I might. They're my ops. For real?

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

And they're like. I don't know if you remember any of the discussions. They're like, super big.

[Top Lobster]

Turns out the Necro are the real N word.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, the actual N word. They're huge. Yeah. They're hungry. That's not cool, man. I don't. It just doesn't feel like I thought it would.

[Anthony Graffio]

Giant of Kandar. Like, who wants to deal with that? You know what I mean?

[David Lee Corbo]

Like, yeah, no, I'm good.

[Anthony Graffio]

I'm good. I got guns, but I don't know, like, like, if.

[David Lee Corbo]

If.

[Top Lobster]

If.

[David Lee Corbo]

If they. If I see one, like, I believe in God. So if God set me up to talk about this for a long time, and then God saw fit to put one in front of me, I'd have to go and be like, all right, this isn't me. God put one in front of me so. For the glory of God, you know, and, and if I win, it's because God did this, not me. But I don't know that I'd be pumped about it.

[Anthony Graffio]

No, no, no, no, no. And it's like for me, I, I've accepted the inevitability of being, you know, a human right is, is death. A lot of people haven't though, bro. A lot of people have not come to terms with that. A lot of people are still like very much like trying to hold their treasures, you know, and not realizing that they're not going to be mothy in and your gold will erode, you know. And like we're, we're living in this time where people are being put in such an uncomfortable position that a lot of them are breaking. Like I know at least like three dudes from Jersey that killed themselves in like the past like couple of months, bro. Like, suicide is like super high, especially for men. I mean, it's, it's Men's Mental health Month right now, like, and like, you

[David Lee Corbo]

know, dude sucking dudes dicks money.

[Anthony Graffio]

No, no, no, no, no. That's an Israel.

[David Lee Corbo]

God bless Israel.

[Anthony Graffio]

In America. We, we're praying for the men that are going through these hard times right now.

[David Lee Corbo]

Now.

[Anthony Graffio]

But it's like, but like for dudes like us, like, we've kind of already like been kicked in the dick so many times that like our balls are numb, you know, like these other people, like, they're just getting it right now, you know, like they're just feeling the lashing. Like, so maybe like even being black pilled and like learning about those coffins and being the crazy kid was kind of like our training to get to this point to be like numb to it, you know.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, I think it was a blessing because imagine, imagine this. I don't know if you had a similar reaction to it, but when you're learning these things, you feel like something is going to happen any day now and, and you're trying to express this to people and there's no reciprocation whatsoever. And so eventually you have to just kind of chill the fuck out. In fact, I went through a period, I was homeless while I was learning all this shit and I was not getting my life together because I thought it was going to happen like any moment, so why am I going to bother building? And, and eventually I was so sick of being this sack of shit who hadn't achieved anything that I had to put these things to the side and start to try to build, and I had to live with that. You know, it was in the back of my head, and I had it there, and. And. But I had to. I had to suppress it. I had to tell it to chill out so that I can get on with my life. And, you know, obviously, eventually we start the show and. And the world is on fire with COVID and all this shit. So it all makes sense that I have this in my back pocket. But imagine instead, you were exposed to all of that stuff, and so was everybody else, and everybody else was reciprocating, and. And suddenly you're surrounded by thousands of people who are all seeing what you're seeing, and they're all echoing back the same sentiments. Like that madness. Thank God it happened in a vacuum where nobody was. Was pouring gasoline on that fire. I think that it would have been. And I. And I don't think it was unique to me. Did you have this experience?

[Anthony Graffio]

Oh, yeah, for sure, man. I mean, like, as gay as this sounds, but, like, like I said, I was black pilled at such a young age that I became blue pilled. Like, I just did oxies all the time. Like, I. I sniffed Oxy. 30s for, like, 14 years of my life. Threw away my life just because I was like, it. Like, we're gonna die anyway. Like, yeah, the Illuminati is coming. I'm just gonna get high on pills all the time. Girls.

[David Lee Corbo]

World War III's coming.

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah, bro.

[Top Lobster]

Just.

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah, throw it out, you know? And. And it. Literally, as gay as this sounds, like Q is what kind of gave me hope again, you know? Like, QAnon was like. Was like, sure. Oh, like, all the conspiracies that I've been afraid of of my whole life, like, Donald Trump and JFK Jr are gonna save us.

[David Lee Corbo]

There's, like, this.

[Anthony Graffio]

All right, there's this military plan. I'm gonna clean my up a little bit. Let me. Let me do something with myself here, you know? And I was like. And now it's like that I found out that none of it's real. It's like, did I. Did I go down and break down and go back to doing drugs? No, absolutely not. Because I have Christ now, you know?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Anthony Graffio]

Like, I've always been a Christian, you know? Like, I was born Roman Catholic, left the Roman Catholic Church. Like, I'm sure I could do 10 episodes with you guys for me to tell you my whole story, but, like, you know, born a Christian, kind of just like, withered away from. From my faith, but always believed in Christ. But not really. Felt like fell in love with the Bible and all that stuff because, like, as a conspiracy theorist, I'm sure, as you guys know as well, is like, you question the Bible, you're like, oh, the Council of Nicaea. Oh, Cesar Borgia's son. And oh, that's not actually Jesus. And like, you know, if you've seen what was that classic conspiracy video back in the day, Zeitgeist. Yeah. You're like, oh, they're all the same time moose and this and that. It's like, you know, you kind of fall out with that. But like, Christ is always there. Christ has always been there for me. I've always, you know, every night before I lay my, my head down, I pray. Like, so it's always, it's always been there, but it wasn't like a full connection. And I'll make a long story short for you guys, but I actually had an experience that made me believe in the Bible. Right. And this was around 2020, where this is probably important.

[Top Lobster]

This is specifically what our show is about.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Anthony Graffio]

Okay. Okay. Well, I got a couple stories, but I'll give you this one for today. So during 2020, when all this was going on and I was going through this whole entire like, awakening of a different kind of awakening, I became super new age, you know, because of all like, rest in peace, David Wilcock. But like, I was following like above Majestic and like believing in like, you

[David Lee Corbo]

know, documentary, by the way.

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah, great documentary. And doing all these like, meditations and like all this, like, connecting my chakras and all that, all that gay, you know, so doing a lot of ketamine and so, so one night I, I do a, I do a guided meditation from this guy. His name is Dr. Tad James. Right. And the meditation is about your, the, the council that watches over you or whatever. Right. And how many people are in it head. Huh?

[David Lee Corbo]

How many people are in the council, do you happen to know? Or was it like.

[Anthony Graffio]

It was just like. It was just like you're going to see the people that have been watching over you and like, oh, you're entering this room and the light.

[David Lee Corbo]

So it's a, it's a Gates program esque. Kind of like a Monroe Institute.

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. And I'm on ketamine. Okay.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Anthony Graffio]

So it's like crushing. So like I'm. I'm opening up the veil pretty big here. Right? So anyway, so I, I get into the meditative state. I'm in this like, arena or wherever I'm at. And this is before I Believe in the Bible. Like, I'm still questioning the Bible. Still love Christ, but still questioning the Bible. Don't really believe in it. Never even really like, opened the Bible and read it. But, like, I had a lot of people, like, in the Q space that were Christian. They're like, you have to start believing in the Bible. Like, just open the Bible. Just believe in the Bible. And this is even before I even opened the Bible. So I'm still new age at the time, and I enter into this realm or whatever, and this being approaches me. Hand to God, swear to you, had no idea what this creature was, but it comes up to me and it has the head of a human, the head of a lion, an eagle and an ox.

[David Lee Corbo]

Hell, yeah. Dog.

[Anthony Graffio]

And it's accurate.

[Top Lobster]

Angel.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's a giant.

[Anthony Graffio]

Giant. Giant, right? And it has these wings and like, all this stuff. And it looks at me and it's like, you need to know who you are. Like, we've been protecting you. Don't be afraid of me. Like, all this stuff, whatever, right? And then I have this other being flying in front of me and has, like, rainbow wings. And it, like, looks back at me and it says, like, you really need to know who you are. Right? Months and months and months and months go by, and I'm finally, like, a little receptive to, like, okay, you know what? I do have to look into the Bible. Like, you know, maybe.

[David Lee Corbo]

Hold on a second, Anthony. What the happens? You're chilling with these two things. They're talking to you. And then.

[Anthony Graffio]

And then that was it. I. I came out. I came out of the experience. Yeah. I came out of the experience. Yeah. And, like, months and months go by or whatever, and then I'm like, okay, you know what? I do need to look into the Bible. Like, I need to do this. And, like, I didn't know what to do, so I was like, should I start from the front? Do I start here? Do I start there? So you know what I did, dude? I swear to you on everything I love in this world. I just opened up the Bible. I was like, wherever it takes me, that's where I'm going to start. I was like, this is just how I'm gonna do it. I'm just gonna, like, I'm gonna let God guide me. Swear to God on everything I love in this world. The book I open to is the book of Ezekiel. And in the book of Ezekiel, it literally explains the exact same being that was right in front of my face. And I said, I believe in the Bible.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, dude, That'll do it. Yep, that'll do it.

[Anthony Graffio]

Just like that. I was like, I believe in the Bible. I was like, God. God's word's real. And I got baptized, and then I. I fully fell in love with the gospel. I fell in love with the Bible, and here I am to this day.

[David Lee Corbo]

You know, it's so crazy, man.

[Top Lobster]

Looking back on that, do you. What sort of. What was the nature of that entity that you saw? Because you. You. You saw a cherubim or, like, that's a classification of angel. There's like nine types of.

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

Did you feel like. I mean, I guess you didn't have the knowledge to ask it who it serves, because there are still fallen angels, and there are angels that are within the grace of God. And I think that people come in contact with either. So I'm always suspicious of when people are encountering these things and they're telling them to do stuff. It's like, well.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, do not fear is a good start, right?

[Top Lobster]

That's a good start.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's a good start.

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Because typically, technically, that's what they start with, because people freaking out.

[Top Lobster]

But this thing nudged. It nudged him into the Bible.

[David Lee Corbo]

It nudged him into the Bible and it said, you need to know who you are. I mean, what the hell do you. How do you even interpret that?

[Anthony Graffio]

I have no idea, man. Because, like, then, like, somebody. A lot of different experiences started to come up with the Book of Ezekiel. You know, like, people were having, like.

[David Lee Corbo]

I.

[Anthony Graffio]

You know, I don't want to call it a prophecy or whatever, but people were, like, praying over me or whatever. And, like, one of the things that they said, like, you're a watchman. You're a watchman. You're a watchman. And, like, that's also an Ezekiel. And it's like all of this stuff was, like, connecting for me. And I was just like, you know, when. When I felt. When I felt the presence of this being, though, it didn't feel like a negative entity, you know?

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay.

[Anthony Graffio]

It felt like. It felt like strength. It felt like. It felt like. It felt like a strength that was being served towards me, you know, like, in a way of saying, like, we're here and we're helping you, you know, like. Like, we've. We've always kind of been with you, you know, like, in a protection form, you know? And, like, that's what actually made me start to believe in the Bible, because I've had many. I've had many experiences when it comes to, like, spirituality. I mean, I've been Astral projecting since I was a child, you know, I've been leaving my body. Yeah. Like, that's what I'm saying. Like, we could have 20 episodes about my life. Like, I was actually in the GATE program. I was brought into, like, secret rooms. The pink juice, the earphones, all that. Went through all of that. Been astral projecting since I was a child. Used to fly to my. My neighbor's house, who was like, this nice old woman, and it was, like, insidious. Like, she had demons all over her house and, like, monsters. And, like, I would see that. And, like, Until I was 14 years old, I used to sleep on my mom's floor because I would have night terror so bad. I've had, like, sleep paralysis probably over, like, 5, 000 times where, like, I just feel like something's holding me down and I can't get up. And, like, the only way I could get out is if I say Jesus's name.

[David Lee Corbo]

So, like, happen anymore?

[Anthony Graffio]

Not anymore, no. It hasn't happened in a long, long time. Long, long time. I was also given a. I used to be a rapper. Corny, I know, but I used to be a rapper. And, like, you know what's so funny, though?

[David Lee Corbo]

You were too. Like, he's like, I used to be. Be. Do Ketamine and be New age and all this other. It's like, I used to be a rapper. I know that's gay. Like that. And I respect the. Out of that, bro, because you know the priorities here. If you.

[Top Lobster]

If I had two people in front

[David Lee Corbo]

of me, one was a rapper and one was a new age practitioner, I'd be like, I'd rather talk to the new age.

[Anthony Graffio]

Honestly.

[Top Lobster]

That's the one thing that he said so far that surprised me.

[David Lee Corbo]

No, it doesn't surprise me, dude. Like, because that was dumb that I was. I literally used to hold. This is something I've never told you because I. I used to be a wigger, and I would hold my homie hobby's captive in the back seat, and they'd be like, dave, rap. And they. They would. We would record it on the phones. And I was never a. No, I didn't rap. But, yeah, your story is extremely similar to mine.

[Anthony Graffio]

Jersey, bro.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's the water. I don't think that.

[Top Lobster]

See, you're gonna astral project. You're gonna.

[David Lee Corbo]

You're gonna astral. I had a lot of, you know, shadow people, demonic encounters, all that growing up. Up. My grandmother. I don't think that I was part of any programs. My grandmother, I think, was Though she used to write papers on remote viewing and all this other crazy. And I'm like, how are you doing this? She was a New age practitioner. She was an alien abductee victim as well. Never turned to Christ. I think that's why everything went south for her.

[Top Lobster]

But when. When you were a child. Sorry, when you were a kid and you started to astral project. Because that happened to me as well. But it was like more like conditions. There were conditions around me. There was a certain TV that was playing. It would be always Michael K watching the Yankees or the.

[David Lee Corbo]

Was it a tube tv? Yeah, I think there was something to the tube TV that facilitated some for sure.

[Top Lobster]

I'd feel my body go and like, my. My uncle's there, my dad's behind me, and. But I can see the whole room. So I'm like astral projecting. But I was too scared to ever, like, venture off too far from where I was.

[David Lee Corbo]

Was.

[Top Lobster]

And I would just somehow get back in. And I was like, I'm not doing that. And I never explored it. How did. How did that start for you?

[Anthony Graffio]

I've pretty much the same man. I mean, like, at first, like, it was like I was just, like, floating around my room, you know, Like, I would just, like, see, like, looking down at myself, and I'd be like, what the is going on? But then, like, I started to venture off and I would always end up at my neighbor's house. Always like, oh, yeah, that's what I'm like. She was an old lady. She's like a nice old lady, like in reality.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, and you would see in her the different rooms of her house in the astral?

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah, yeah, like insidious. You ever see the movie Insidious?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have trouble remembering it, though. But you're saying, like, the different rooms in her house had different entities in them?

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah, like dead bodies everywhere. Like demons. Like a monster chasing me. Like, straight up. Just like insidious. Like when I saw the movie Insidious, it me up so much because it, like, reminded me so much of my childhood. I was like, wow. So other people experienced this before. Like, this is a real thing, you know?

[David Lee Corbo]

Do you know anything about your maybe what, like your parents dabbled in or maybe what your grandparents dabbled in?

[Anthony Graffio]

No, nothing like that. No, nothing. No.

[David Lee Corbo]

Because typically, I think when it happens to you at a really young age, there's been rights and consents given over by previous generations. The Bible calls it generational iniquity. And I found that, like, for me, that really checks out. Because I've had abduction experiences and demonic encounters and, you know, you name it. But grandma was a New age practitioner who didn't. I think she went that direction because something was given access to her at a young age. And rather than go to Christ, she went to a bunch of bad, bad sage, burn some sage, do some, you know, remote viewing, whatever.

[Anthony Graffio]

No one, like, immediate. No one immediate. Like, my, my grandparents are like, are both Christians, like on both sides. Like, super, like, went to church, read the Bible. So nothing immediate. I mean, the one weird thing I will say that is in my family is in Sicily, my ancestors were dukes. So there's an actual castle that's in Sicily with my last name that, like, when my, like, my grandparents went over there, they said their last name like they were treated like royalty because of, like this castle or whatever. So maybe who the knows what they were doing in that castle? They might have been like Freemasons or Illuminati or whatever, you know.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's interesting, dog. You should look into that. Not because, you know, you've already, those debts have already been paid, right? The blood of Christ is, is amen. Literally. It fixes all that, breaks all those bonds and all those contracts. But I, I wouldn't be surprised if you look back a little bit and you find like, oh, that's why. Because general generational iniquity can visit the bloodlines up to like sevenfold. So seven generations from an individual. And then of course, if it happens again, right? So like, if you look at my grandmother and what she did, she had three kids. One of them tragically given up for adoption. The other two girls, one of them is full, full blown schizophrenic, which is not, I don't even want to say. It's our opinion. We've, I've done enough research on this. That's a spiritual disposition. It has nothing for sure. The chemical brain imbalance or some like that. And then the schizophrenic lady, my aunt, that lady, her two kids, both, one of them's in the new age and one of them is recovering from schizophrenia that came on set in childhood. And my mother has all these weird experiences, little shadow people running around the house, yada, yada. And then my whole life has been dotted with the crazy. I mean, I'm sitting here in this chair because of very similar circumstances to you. To me, I go, oh, yeah, no doubt, dog. Generational iniquity. I, My, my son was having experiences when he was real little. He doesn't have anymore. I prayed the Blood of Christ over any sort of contracts or bonds or iniquity that is in my bloodline. Because, like, everything and anything that I could think of, and nothing happens to my son anymore. Nothing happens to me anymore. Like I said, it's. It's a stark contrast from the life that I had before. And also, I had a very similar situation. I didn't see an angel. I saw the greasiest of demons. And then my wife saw the same demon, and then my son saw the same demon. And then calling on Jesus Christ stopped it. And I was like, okay, it's time to look at this. And that's when I. That's when I turned this corner. Maybe it is a New Jersey thing, but what I'm saying is I can see people in the chat, and the chat is like, this is the same story as me. And I get that all the time. Like, your circumstances, my circumstances, the people in the chat. Like, this is very common. A lot more common. You know, it was a good year or two into us doing this show before I found out that your grandmother was doing all kinds of, like, Santeria or whatever it was in the village, you know, in the trash island of Puerto Rico, you know, so it's like, this is much more. My wife, the same thing. She has a witch in her bloodline. Like, this is super common.

[Anthony Graffio]

Oh, yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

I think so many people are suffering from this and have no idea that is happening at all or how to get out of it.

[Anthony Graffio]

Oh, for sure. No question. And I think, like, just from experience alone, it's like seeing that Christ can, like you said, end all of that, you know, just like. Like completely shut it down. Completely shut it down. I mean, I can make another long story to a short story of actually how I found Christ, because that's a crazy one, too.

[David Lee Corbo]

Let's go.

[Anthony Graffio]

Okay, so back to what I was saying. I. I wanted to be a rapper, right? So, like, you know, me and my friends, like, we, you know, you know what? Pasha is in New York City. Like, we used to go.

[Top Lobster]

He's a club.

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah, yeah, it was a club. Yeah, we sell ecstasy, like, do a bunch of crazy whatever. When we were younger, listen to a lot of Little Wayne, and like, Lil Wayne would always be like, yeah, I sold my soul. So, like, we would just, like, around and say, yeah, we'll sell our soul to become famous or whatever. So whatever. Stupid. You know, we're kids, whatever. So my friend, his dad was the manager of a bar, you know, Nutley, New Jersey.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Anthony Graffio]

You know, Nutley's at all, right? So my friend's dad was a manager at a bar at. In a place in Nutley. And there was these apartment buildings that were over the bar. And this band moves into the apartment buildings and whatever, they start like hanging out there. We became friends with them, we started going to parties at their house. And this guy moves in off of Craigslist. And he said to my, to my friend that, that lives in the house, he goes, yo, I feel a spirit in this house, right?

[David Lee Corbo]

The Craigslist.

[Anthony Graffio]

The guy that moves in off of Craigslist into the band.

[David Lee Corbo]

Get the out of here, dog.

[Anthony Graffio]

Into the band's house, right? Yeah, exactly. So he goes, he draws a picture of it, right? And he draws a picture of, you know what the Ganesh is? Ganesha.

[David Lee Corbo]

Very familiar. Ganesh.

[Top Lobster]

What is that, like the elephant guy?

[Anthony Graffio]

It's the elephant. It's the elephant God, correct? Yes.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, okay.

[Anthony Graffio]

So he draws a picture. He draws a picture of Ganesh and

[David Lee Corbo]

it's like there was a lot of Indians moving into New Jersey around that time. It sounds like a joke. You bring spirits and powers and principalities that are, you know, that have bonds over you.

[Anthony Graffio]

Exactly.

[David Lee Corbo]

Break those bonds because you leave a country.

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah. No, no facts. So he was saying like this. The spirit is in this house or, or whatever. So the drummer of the band goes, yo, that's crazy. But the guy that used to live next door, he got into a fight with his chick. He punched a hole in the wall. Very New Jersey, right? And inside the hole in the wall there was a potato sack, a burlap sack inside. Dude, this is a crazy ass story. Swear to God, everything that I'm telling you is 1000% real. Pulls the potato sack out of the wall, and inside the potato sack there's two carved masks. The one is of the Ganesh and the other is of Baphomet. Okay? Check this, right? So I told you guys, I've been a conspiracy theorist my whole life. I've been looking into my whole life, been knowing about the Illuminati and all this my whole life, right? So my friend tells me the story. I'm like, yo, I gotta go meet that guy, right? I gotta go talk to that guy. I don't meet him. So whatever, I go there, I go meet the guy. And like, he's a normal ass dude. Like, he's just like some white boy, whatever. And like as soon as, like I walk into his room, on his wall, he has a bunch of Egyptian hylographics, right? And there's like A fake rubber snake at the bottom. And I'm like, oh, what's that? And he's like, oh, this is a portal. He's like, this is how I entered the ethereal realm. And I'm able to, you know. Yeah. Astral projected to the ethereal realm. And that's. This is how I knew that that spirit was, was here. So whatever, we start talking, start shooting the going back and forth, back and forth, you know, conspiracy, conspiracy. He gives me a book, okay? And the book is not like some sacred book that came out of a cave or anything. You could go buy it in Barnes and Nobles. It's called the Book of Lies. Right? And the Book of Lies is like this like, esoteric Alistair Crowley kind of book. Yeah, right. Yeah. And it has like all these different, like, things. Like, okay, for example, I go back to my boy's house, I take the book or whatever, I go back to my boy's house, and like, one of the first pages of the book is like, how to invoke the spirit.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, it's a Crowley book. That's right.

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah, it's a Crowley book. How to invoke the spirit of James Bond. Right? Like, if you want, if you want to be cunning to women, like to be, to be cunning to women. If you want to invoke the spirit of James Bond, which is John Dee, and it's actually connected to Hermes, right? They said, like, the spirit of James Bond is actually connected to Hermes. And if you invoke the spirit of James Bond, you're invoking the spirit of Hermes and women will see you as more attractive or whatever. Then, like, the next one is like, how to. How to get, like, fame and fortune, like, how to basically sell your soul, right? And like, at the time, I don't, I. I believe in Christ, but I don't have Christ. You know, I'm like, I'm like, just empty. I'm an empty vessel. I'm like, going out all the time. I'm doing drugs, I'm hanging out the wrong people. I'm invoking the wrong things into my life. And my boy shows up out of thin air. He's a born again Christian, right? Shows up out of thin air at, at my boy's house. And I tell him, I'm like, yo, I got this book. And like, first off, the first page of the book is a picture of the Baphomet. Then, like, it's all these spells and all these things that you could do or whatever, and I tell them about it. I'm like, And I'm not gonna lie to you, dude. I feel like I'm kind of being possessed right now. Like, I feel like there's, like.

[David Lee Corbo]

You said that to him?

[Top Lobster]

Crazy sentence.

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah, I was like, damn, straight up. I'm like, I. I feel very weird. Like, I feel like something's trying to take over me, like, legit. So he's like, dude, get rid of that book immediately. Da, da. So, like, whatever. We throw the book in the sewer. And he's like, so we go back to the house or whatever. And he's like, okay, well, like, now you need to pray, you know? And like, I was raised Roman Catholic, so to me, prayer is like, hail Mary and our Father. And, like, you know, he's like, he's a born again, so he's like a different kind of Christian. So he's like, no, no. Like, when you pray, like, I. You need to go talk to Christ, you know? Like, you need to talk to Jesus, right? So I'm like, okay. Like. And there was a crucifix on the wall. And I remember, like, a clear day, and I look at the crucifix and I start praying. I'm like, like, Jesus, I don't want to sell my soul. I don't want to be a part of this. I don't want anything to do with this. Like, I. Please break me away from all this stuff. And, dude, when I tell you, I swear to you, I had chills come over my entire body that were so strong it made me fall to my knees. And tears started to pour out of my eyes, right? And it was like a gray day outside, and the sun became so bright, and like, a wind came, and it pushed a lamp against the crucifix. And there was a sunrise that was over the crucifix, right? And then, like, I feel, like, cleansed. I feel like. Like a new. Like a completely new person, right? At the time I call, I didn't have my license, so I called my brother. I'm like, yo, you got to come pick me up. Whatever. Months and months and months and months go by. I don't go back to that house where the parties are at over the bar. And I know as cliche as it is, they have a party on Halloween. So my friend's like, yo, you gotta come down, man. Like, it's gonna be a rager. Like, all these chicks are coming. It's gonna be sick. Da, da, da, whatever. So I'm like, it. You know, whatever. I'll go. So I go. I knock on the door and the drummer opens the door, he's like, yo, Graph, what's up, dude? Like, haven't seen you in so long. Where you been? And I'm like, yeah, like, this weird situation happened with the guy that moved in, you know, and he gave me this book. And da da. He's like, yo, that guy moved out months ago. I'm like, oh, really? He's like, yeah. Like, he just, like, never left his room. He'd always be in there. Maybe we partied too much. Whatever. He moved out. I was like, did he say anything? He said, yeah, his work here was done.

[David Lee Corbo]

What the. Yep.

[Anthony Graffio]

Now check this out. Go to find out that that place where the bar and the apartments are was an old Masonic hall. And the reason why those masks were in the wall, because they used to wear those masks to invoke those spirits. Yeah, and that's. It was hollow ground, basically where I could basically get this deal right? Of like, okay, you want to become an occultist? You want to sell your soul? You want to follow this path? Here you go, here's the book here. Start following Aleister Crowley. Start doing these things. And instead God had a different plan for me. You know, he sent that. He sent that born again Christian, my friend, Art there to. To come and. And teach me who Christ is and to actually how to repent. And when that day happened, that's. That's when Christ came into me and I. I realized, you know, this is really the path that I need to start to take. And. And this is me still questioning the Bible and years and years of abuse and everything, but. But just being cleansed from that, like, that choice of path. And it's funny, like, at the same time is when Mac Miller started to blow up. So it was almost like I had the. The chance, right, to be like, whether, you know, be a Mac Miller, like, white rapper, Corey, whatever the it is, you know, thing. And it was. Instead, it was like, you know, no, you have this. This other choice. You have this other path that you can take. And maybe that. That whole entire thing is connected back to that castle with my family and that I have the opportunity to do it. I mean, I was told by this one guy in jiu jitsu, he was like super deep into the Monroe Institute. Like, he did all the Hemi syncing and all of the gateway experience, like, highest level or whatever. And like, he told me, he's like, you don't know about your bloodline, do you? And I'm like, what? What do you mean? He's like, no, like You. You have a tainted bloodline. And I'm like, what are you talking about? He's like, yeah, you're connected to the Orsini family. I was like, what? He's like, yeah. He's like. He's like, your family, are they. Are there. Is there royalty over there in Italy? And I was like, yeah, there's actually, like, a castle. He's like, yeah, you. You actually have Orsini blood in you. I don't know if you guys know who the Orsinis are, but, like, no.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, this one, like, the. What do they call them, the Black Nobility?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah, they're 12 or 13 families.

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah. Yeah, so they're like. They're known as the Bear of Italy. They're like the Black Popes. And supposedly, I mean, I. I haven't confirmed that, but this is what he told me was like, that he is able to do, like, a lineage check through whatever spiritual guidance that he got. And he's like, yeah, you have Orsini blood in you. And I was like, I don't know, maybe. But there is a castle. There is like an entire royal bloodline with my family there. And like I said, who knows what they were doing? Maybe they were. Maybe they weren't the good kind of dukes, you know, knowing what. What these. These royalties and what they've done for so long with ritualistic things. Maybe there was a taint in my bloodline. Maybe there really was, like, some dark that was put there. And like you said back to. To the whole entire thing to make a circle was that. That's broken now. That. That Christ broke those bonds, that Christ took away that generational curse, that there are no more sleep paralysis, that there are no more me leaving my body, that there is no more of these weird situations coming at me now. It's just me being, you know, who I am. A warrior of Christ, a light in this world, assault of the. Of the earth, you know?

[Top Lobster]

And how long. How long after that still did you. Did it take you to really, I guess, figure out your walk? Because it doesn't. It doesn't just happen. I'm assuming, like, you know, you say the prayer in your friend's house. Yeah, but that chain, the change in you, doesn't happen right away. You probably go years, like, for.

[Anthony Graffio]

I was 21, dude. I was 21. I'm 37. I got baptized at 30, too.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, a while.

[Anthony Graffio]

A while.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yo, but tell. All right, so. So that thought process, you know, you're a conspiracy theorist for so long, and then all of a Sudden now you're looking at Aleister Crowley's Book of Lies, and. And I found myself in a similar situation. So I kind of wanted to talk about that mindset where it's like, you. You know, Aleister Crowley is not a good dude. And you also know that the symbolism that is all over Hollywood and the music industry is all Satanic and Luciferian, which is actually kind of funny that it took me or you as long as it does. Did to come to Christ, because it's like you could see the mark of the adversary all over everything. And that's kind of weird that you don't immediately go, well, then there's probably some real veracity to Jesus Christ. But it's. I mean, you know, I spent a long time looking at the other side. I always say, like, I came into the church through the back door. I came through occultism and everything. And there was a time for me as well, where I was looking at Crowley in a really serious way. And my thought process was something like, well, the only way that I'm gonna know definitively if it's real, because I could see that it's there, but the only way that I'm gonna know if it's real is if I really, like, dig in.

[Anthony Graffio]

In.

[David Lee Corbo]

I've really got to dig in.

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

So for me, what happened was I think God sent me my wife, like, within those months that I'm looking at, like, I'm watching Crowley documentaries and I'm reading obscure on the Internet, and I'm trying to go down this path, and all of a sudden, my wife comes into my life, and I become totally preoccupied with that. Like, to the extent that I lose my job, I can't even focus on selling furniture anymore because I'm just so. Everything is about this chick, and. And then, you know, all that leads me to this place. But, like, there is this weird thought process where it's, like, how much. It's almost like being a scientist, right? How much are you going to engage in theory before you get your hands dirty?

[Anthony Graffio]

Facts, dude. That's such a good point. I mean, like, during that. That 2020 period, like, where I became super New Age, like, that's when I was, like, diving deepest into the occult. Like, you know, this. This situation happened with me with Crowley and, like, always looking into these rabbit holes with, like, the Illuminati and all this stuff. And then, like, it was actually. I don't know if you ever heard of this book. Secret Teaches of All Ages by Manly P. Hall.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yep.

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah, I read that book.

[David Lee Corbo]

And I was like, his big thing.

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah, yeah. So like, I read that book and I was like, man, I want these powers, you know, like, like I want to be like 11 on Stranger Things. Like, I want to be able to like move with my mind and like, you know, do all these things. And like, this is what will unlock it for me. If I learn how to do these magic tricks, basically. Like, if I learn how to just become a part of them, then I could use it for good though, right? It's like, oh, because, you know, that's like the thing with the occult. It's like where they tell you. It's like it's all about your intention, right? Like, if you're going to use it for negative, then you're gonna use it for negative. But you could also use it for good. Good. But in reality you can't. There is no. There is no good when you're playing with magic, you know? And I think that's like the same thing for me is like I was like, I'm so interested in it that I need to just keep exploring it. Like, I need to keep on going deeper into it to see like, how far I can go. And then like, as soon as I had that experience where like the cherubim approached me, I was like, okay, yeah, God is, God is putting me back on the other path now. Now it's like I need, I need to leave that whole entire. Because like, dude, I was doing like crazy deep meditations. Like, you know, just like seeing so many different things and like, just messing with like so many different psychedelics. Like, for me to actually get off of opiates, I did ibogaine, right? So like, which is like the strongest form of any kind of DMT, you know, it's a, it's a 12 to eight hour trip and it actually can reset your entire mind from an addictive to a pre addictive state. So like, I've done so many different things in the spiritual realm and I was just like, you become, you come. You become fascinated with that, right? Because it's like you hate reality so much and like how much goy slop is surrounding us in. In this world that it's like I just want to tap around, right?

[David Lee Corbo]

I got. Yeah. For 40 years and then I gotta retire and meanwhile the world is filled with all these mysteries that these midwits are telling me aren't real. They're not real. So I got to work and then I got to retire and hopefully they give me a gold pin on my way out And. And I get. I have to ignore all because, you know, that's. It just becomes that thing where it's like, how long is this going to remain theoretical? How much vindication do you need before you go, okay, it is there. I can see it. I'm not. Like, it's showing up over and over and over again. It's in the architecture, it's in the movies, it's in the muse, it's in everything.

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

And all these characters are ingrained one way or another in pop culture. Alistair Crowley being, you know, a great example of them. Like, this is the thing that moves and shakes the world behind the scenes and. Yeah. Am I going to go along with the flow of the game and, you know, eat the slop and. And die, or am I gonna actually touch this thing?

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's. It's that, like, carrot that's dangled in front of your face, you know? And it's like, I just. I just love to disassociate, you know? I just love to just, like, leave my body and just, like, leave this world, you know? That's why I've, like, been doing drugs my whole life. I've been smoking weed since I was, like, 12. And it's just like, when you look into the occult and, like, as you're with drugs and doing things like that, it's like the craziest disassociation ever. Right? It's just like you're completely leaving this world behind and you're becoming anew and, like. But you. Like, it all revolves around the same gnostic principles of, like, Jesus is actually the bad guy, and you're actually just supposed to have free will. Like, you're supposed to be, like, the snake in the garden. Like, that's what he was trying to do. He was trying to do that. Exactly, exactly. And it's like, no, no, no, no. I. I need the whipping rod in my life. I need. I need it. I need the discipline, you know?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Anthony Graffio]

Because if not like every human being, without the discipline of Christ and without actually, like, putting yourself in a stoic position of life, you're just gonna ruin yourself. Yeah, Most people, at least me, I

[David Lee Corbo]

think if I didn't have the beginnings of, like, eating donuts from the dumpster behind Dunkin Donuts, you know, that kind of a deal, like, I might have fallen for my own, you know? Imagine being like, you know, you have this castle that's, like, associated with your bloodline. Imagine being some duke in a fucking castle who probably has alchemists in his employ. And when you start to wrestle with this idea that you could understand that despite your limited amount of time on this. On this earthly realm, you could understand despite that the Bible says to lean not on your own understanding. Like, you could crack this code. Like, I had that reality check constantly of like, you're kind of a fucking dummy, dude. Like, you dropped out of high school, you fucking. You know, you were homeless for a grip. Like, you're not that smart. But if you're a. If you're royalty, dude, and you're in a castle and there's fucking peasants outside the castle walls dying of. Of the plague, and you're sitting here tinkering with alchemists and grimoires, and, you know, like, you might actually believe that you can. And that's what leads to, like, that kind of madness. Like, thank God that. Well, thank. Thank God that he. He made me from humble beginnings, because I think my ego could have gotten the best of me had it not been made so obvious real early on. Like, now, dude, you're no better. You're. You're kind of a dummy.

[Anthony Graffio]

Sure. You're kind of a dummy.

[Top Lobster]

You're talking about one of the hardest things for men. Men to do something that's, like, hard for me to do was hard for me to do. But it's like. It's just the idea of submission. And, you know, I guess where we all grew up, if you submit to.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, you're a bro.

[Top Lobster]

But that's like, that could be real dangerous for you, you know?

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Top Lobster]

If you allow somebody to do something around you that you weren't paying attention to because you submitted and you were kind of easy about it. It's like that. My guard's always up. I'm here in the villages, but I'm always kind of like, what the. You know, who's that?

[Anthony Graffio]

Watch that. Boomer.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah. But when we're talking about spiritual submission, like, your. Your guard's always up. You're doing. You're doing drugs to get into another realm because you're trying to get something that is. Is falling through your fingers.

[David Lee Corbo]

But in order to get that facts,

[Top Lobster]

you need to submit, but you need to submit to the right stuff, to the right thing. And it. It is hard to do, but it's. It's kind of like. I don't know. I don't want to compare us to dogs, but, like, you got a dog that's acting wild when you. When you have that dog come into complete submission. That dog is now at peace. Yeah. Because he's like, he submitted to me, and I'm gonna take care of him. Like, you know, you're gonna get a meal. You know, I'm gonna protect you. You're gonna have a place to stay.

[David Lee Corbo]

You know, I'm leading.

[Top Lobster]

I am leading.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, good point.

[Top Lobster]

And I'm not me. Like, but we're submitting to God. So this is like, a much higher level. But think about how much infinitely better that dog's life is now that he's like, he's given up on his own. Whatever's going through his head, that he's got to protect this. I got to do this. I got to be protective of this food. And bite this.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's like, no, no, no.

[Top Lobster]

My master's got it.

[David Lee Corbo]

No, dude, you're absolutely right.

[Top Lobster]

Like, I'm.

[Anthony Graffio]

That's money. That's money.

[David Lee Corbo]

And they're right.

[Top Lobster]

Right on you, and they're following you. It's like, yeah, that. But I'm not ashamed to say that. Like, that. But with God, it was like, all

[David Lee Corbo]

right, hell yeah, Doug. Because that's what's alleviated that. That impossible anxiety that I experienced as a young man. Like. Like, all that that was going on, all the chaos and, you know, FEMA camps, martial law, World War iii, all this stuff. Like, I don't give a. It's not that I don't give a. I literally make fun of it. How could you ever be in a position to make fun of those horrifying things? Because God's got me.

[Top Lobster]

God's in control.

[David Lee Corbo]

God already won. Like, the, like, checkmate already happened 2000 years ago. Like, the, like, you know, shut the books. It's over now. We're just watching the shit play out. So, like, yeah, dog, I get it.

[Top Lobster]

But I think that that's. At nine years thing between you, you know, you praying to God, which is like, what a. What a crazy move, too, right? It's like you could have very easily been like, hey, I'll pray at home. You know, this is a little weird, but. But, like, you did that. That's. That's a step of bravery that I think the world today tries to tell you. Like, oh, what are you praying to God? What are you reading the Bible? What are you, like, like, going to. You're a Christian.

[Anthony Graffio]

You're weak.

[Top Lobster]

It's like, no, no, that's. That's the hardest thing to do.

[Anthony Graffio]

That's the strength. Yeah, that's the strength. That's the power. That's the power.

[Top Lobster]

I have let. I've let everything down. I'VE let everything go, and it's like, okay, what? Like, how we end up. How me and David end up doing anything. Even with this show, it's pretty much every single time been like, yo, if you want us to move through that door, open it. If you don't close that door, I do nothing. Yeah, we sit here, we wait, we're patient.

[David Lee Corbo]

Whatever God wants me to do, that's what I'm doing.

[Top Lobster]

And then sometimes God would be, like, over there and. And be like, all right, like, yo, let's move over this way. And then you do it, and it works out, and that's like.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's.

[Top Lobster]

It's so easy. It's so easy. But it takes a level of humility, and it takes a level of sincerity, and people don't. I don't know. I get why you don't want to do. I didn't want to do it for a long time, but if you don't, you're just hitting your head against that wall, and you're a tough guy. But now you're bleeding and brain damage,

[David Lee Corbo]

you know, scrambled your.

[Anthony Graffio]

Also, like, for me, personal, personally, like, I was just tired of feeling that void. You know what I mean? It's like. Not to sound gross, but it's like that, like, post nut clarity almost. You know? It's like once you. Once you get it and then you realize you're like, oh, that chick's actually kind of fat. Get the. Away from me. You know? It's like. You know what I'm saying? Like. Like, how many times can you keep on doing the same thing over and over and again? And then as soon as you get that, like, little bit of, like, pleasure, and then it's so fleeting, you know? That's what, like, trying to stay away from God is. Is like, that fleeting. Like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna get this good feeling, but, like, I'm gonna be so broken after.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, it's like.

[Anthony Graffio]

It's like, oh, like, maybe I should just stick by God, maybe I should just stick by one woman. Maybe I should just stay away from this. Maybe I should do that, because in reality, that fleeting moment, that. That little bit of pleasure is not destroyed by that emptiness and void. You know what I mean? Like, after, like, if you just sleep with a random chick or whatever, and then, like, still there, you're like, dude, like, that girl's in my bed right now. Like, I want her out. Like, what did I do? Like, yeah, like, I'm gonna go to the kitchen. Like, hopefully, I got work tomorrow. Like, you Know, it's like, I don't want to have to do that. Like, I want to be like, oh, I just had sex with my wife, and I can go lay down with her and hold her, you know? Like, yeah, it's such a better feeling. But, like, when you're in the, like, rat race of, like, thinking, like, yo, I gotta be this guy, like, this. You know, this stud. Like, I gotta go out there and get all these chicks, and I gotta have the nicest things, and I gotta do this and I gotta do that. It's like, do you really need that, though? Like, and that's what I feel. Like, these, like, elitist people. Like, it's never enough from them. It's never enough for them. Like, you know, Jared Kushner could, like, every girl in the world, but, like, he has to go, kids. Because it's like, it's not enough, you know?

[David Lee Corbo]

It's, like, never enough.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah. You know? Like, they keep on searching for more. Like, how much filthier can I get? Like, where's more mud I could throw myself in so God can't cleanse me? You know? Like, that's what they're constantly looking for. Like, and that's what, like, a lot of dudes that, like, end up, like, with porn addictions and stuff, it's like, you start one place and then you end up at a whole other place, you know?

[David Lee Corbo]

It's like, now you're watching this on each other, bro.

[Anthony Graffio]

You're, like, into, like, some real crazy, dirty. And it's like, yeah, because that void, man. Because that void, you have to find a way to feel it.

[David Lee Corbo]

And it eats. Yeah. And you can't fill it. You can't feel it, because it's a void only God can feel.

[Top Lobster]

And I think the crazy this is, like, we go for, like, this show fluctuates wildly from, like, like, real racist to, like, what I'm about to say. But it's like, no.

[David Lee Corbo]

No matter.

[Top Lobster]

No matter how, like, how dark it gets you, it's amazing because I've seen it over and over. Like, those people you. I watch them and I try to study them, and I'm like, yeah, it's evident that they think that they're beyond redemption. And as a matter of fact, they continue to try to go further. So that way, they are beyond redemption. So that way, they can continue to just delve deeper into darkness. But even so, I'm like, you're still not. Dude. You're still. That's how crazy it is. Like, you think that you are completely irredeemable. And you're not. And I don't like to admit that, like, you know, some of these things these people have done has been horrific, but it's just. It's like. Like, you're still not. There's still a sacrifice that was, like, way bigger.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

That was made that. All you got to do is just ask for it. And you don't have to read, you know, Crowley's book. You don't gotta paint anything on your wall. You don't got to put anything around your neck. You don't gotta do none of that. It's really easy.

[David Lee Corbo]

You just gotta submit.

[Top Lobster]

Well, that's. That part is hard to do it sincerely. Yeah, but, like. But you didn't submit at first either. You just like. You were like, yo, I need help.

[David Lee Corbo]

But that's it. Like, God will meet you where you're at.

[Top Lobster]

You had no idea.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

There's a demon breathing down your neck. Your kids seeing it, and he's just

[David Lee Corbo]

like, yo, I don't know what to

[Top Lobster]

say or what to do. I just need help. I need this to stop now. And I actually mean it. And I was like, all right. Stupid. Yeah, a little bit. Point you in the right direction, which. What are you going to do now?

[Anthony Graffio]

And what does. What does Israel mean? To wrestle with God?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, it's kind of a banger when you think about it.

[Top Lobster]

That's exactly. Every time we talk about Israel. Every time it's. Boy, it's brought up, it's like, I feel like I'm wrestling with God. Yeah, I was wrestling with God before. About.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's so funny because.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

If you. If you think about the Israel thing, you're gonna wrestle with God before.

[Top Lobster]

My. One of my big hold ups with the Old Testament was, you know, I was like, man, God, you just sent them in. You said, kill all the. Kill the goats, Kill. Kill the children. Kill the woman. I'm like, like, I can't. That's a genius.

[David Lee Corbo]

He definitely killed more than one woman.

[Top Lobster]

And then God's like, well, read this part. And then now. Now I'm reading, you know, Genesis 3:15, about the seed. Ward, you're reading about Genesis 6, opening it up into the book of Enoch. And you're seeing, like, oh, oh, wait a second. These entities that you're saying, wipe that out. There's a reason. There's a reason for this. Like a flood. Yeah. There's a bloodline that's tainted.

[David Lee Corbo]

Serpent seed.

[Top Lobster]

There's a serpent seed. And it's like, that's an extreme measure. So it's like, all right, thanks for revealing that to me.

[David Lee Corbo]

But.

[Top Lobster]

So I'm waiting for that kind of revelation with Israel because it's still like, you think you got it figured out. You're like, yeah, these guys, I know what they're doing. We got to do something about that, right? Hitler bros. And we're like, wait a second. Hitler's in a cultist. That's not quite right.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, we gotta go back and we gotta like the Hitler. Though. When you see the rise of the Hitler, you're like, oh, something is going on here. Like, this is not. This is kind of like low iq, that the masses are just kind of being, you know, pushed in one way or the other. And it's like anti Jew stuff means Hitler's basis. Like, no, not really.

[Top Lobster]

Actually giving speeches from the seat of Satan.

[David Lee Corbo]

So he's doing perverting.

[Anthony Graffio]

Hitler was a Rothschilds.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, dude. I think he was also gay.

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

So I wanted to ask you something, Anthony, because we're. We're coming to the end of the show here, and. And I wanted to pick your brains.

[Top Lobster]

Would you come back on first?

[Anthony Graffio]

Oh, yeah, bro, of course. Anytime.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. All right, good.

[Top Lobster]

This is fun.

[David Lee Corbo]

This is.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, I enjoyed this conversation.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, Anthony's a good fit for this show. So this idea of, you know, where I'm at with my walk, I find myself a little, not vexed, but something that I didn't anticipate is the way that I'm perceived by other Christians. And you have a very similar background to me. And, you know, I just wonder, how has that experience been for you? Because there is this sort of modern churchgoer who maybe isn't as gritty, maybe doesn't even have the information. And. And then on the other side of that, there's also a person that is like a conspiracy bro. So when you go, like, I'm a Christian, they go, oh, you. You don't know. Or you gave in.

[Top Lobster]

You're in the hive mind.

[David Lee Corbo]

You're. You're in the hive mind or whatever. And it's like, it's. It's a weird thing because you're in between two people. Or at least this is my experience. I don't speak for years. 501c. Three goers, they don't really find me all that attractive. And conspiracy bros think that. I don't know if I say that I'm Christian. So how has that been for you?

[Anthony Graffio]

I. I deal with the same thing, you know, like, there's a lot of people that just don't understand, like, what the Bible actually is. They think it's a book of control, but it's actually a book of freedom. You know, it's. It's a quantum book. You know, it's alive. There's power, there's. There's energy in it. Right? It's the sword of the spirit. It's our weapon. And I think that if, like, these, these guys that are tainted by conspiracies, because it's like, yeah, I went down the same rabbit holes as you guys. Like, I did all the same things. But guess what? I've had actual physical, spiritual experiences to show me that I was wrong. Like, you're wrong. You know, like, yeah, maybe. Maybe you could say that the. The picture that we have of Jesus Christ, it says, are Borgia's son or whatever. Sure. That doesn't change about the blood that was spilled. Doesn't change the fact of what happened. It doesn't change the fact that he gave us salvation and freed us. You can have anything that you want. It's like black Israelites. Oh, he's black, he's white, he's. It doesn't matter. It's the spiritual understanding of what he is and what he's done for us. And you can have any rabbit hole that you want to go down. Two things that you're going to learn, right, is Jesus Christ is real and they hate him. That's what you will find out.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, okay.

[Anthony Graffio]

So don't. Don't matter what kind of conspiracy theorist you are, that if you are really going down the right rabbit holes, that's what you will find out. And then to the other point of these people that are like Bible thumpers, that are these Christian Zionists that are. I pray for them, man. I pray for them because their discernment is so lacking. They are Old Testament Christians. They don't understand the new covenant. They don't understand when Jesus Christ said, old wine cannot go into a new wine skin. Okay? There's so many interpretations that God gave us about this new covenant, about the old covenant being null and void, about it being done, about it being finished. Him being the lamb, the sacrifice. And these people are so lost in this Schofield, John Darby esque energy of what the Bible is, that they don't even understand what it. What it really is, you know? And I pray for those people. Am I flustered or bothered by either of those type of people? Not at all, man, because I know that God is on my side. I know that we're the badass in this dude. And that God is. Is working with us, you know, people like all three of us, we're on the right path. Path. Everybody else is. Is misguided and misdirected. We're walking the crooked path that God is making straight for us, you know?

[David Lee Corbo]

Amen, dude.

[Anthony Graffio]

Well.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, look, I want to ask you. We typically ask our guests one final question in closing, and we've kind of been forgetting to do it, but I'm really interested to hear this answer. So in. In everything that you're doing, it's been a weird journey. You talked about the fear in the beginning and the hopelessness and. And the. And the drug addiction. And now we're in this. This new place where all of a sudden, these ideas aren't so taboo to talk about. And after 22 different social media accounts that have been banned and everything else. Are you having fun?

[Anthony Graffio]

I'm always having fun, man. I'm. I'm having more fun than I've ever had ever in my life, to be honest with you, bro. I'm enjoying the ride, you know, because like you said before, it's like, why have fear when you already know it's finished? There's no. There's no reason to be afraid. There's no. You know, what's the worst that could happen? I die, you know? Oh, well, we're all gonna die.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's gonna happen anyway.

[Anthony Graffio]

Every day is the end times.

[David Lee Corbo]

Every day, the end times, dog. Yeah. And. And what was that thing we used? End of days extremists? I think that's where I find myself nowadays. And we're not really that extreme, right, in comparison to the characters of the Bible. Those are real ass dudes. But every time somebody turns to us to say, like, oh, you. You said or something, you're a Christian, it's like, yeah, dude, and you're a. Yeah, exactly, because every day is the end of days, and we're end of days extremists.

[Top Lobster]

Listen, that's not a curse. That's a. That's a, you know, criticism.

[David Lee Corbo]

Criticism.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[Anthony Graffio]

I'm helping you, bro. I'm helping you, bro.

[David Lee Corbo]

Stop being a. I pray that you find that Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the life, and that you submit to him and that all your days from then on are blessed

[Top Lobster]

and way less gay.

[David Lee Corbo]

Also, that to Israel, stop accelerating prophecy. All right, so before we get out of here, Anthony, let's remind everybody where they can find your work.

[Anthony Graffio]

So it's Anthony. Underscore, graffio. G, R, A, F, F, E O777 on Instagram. It's graphenati19 on X. And if you want to support my business, it's ungovernable project. We make some beef tallow. I'll send you guys some if you.

[Top Lobster]

Oh, that's sick.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yo, dude, why the 777 thing?

[Anthony Graffio]

For God, man. Perfection.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay, all right.

[Top Lobster]

I respect it.

[Anthony Graffio]

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[David Lee Corbo]

Hell yeah.

[Anthony Graffio]

Shoot me. Guys your address. I'll send you guys some deodorants. We got it all. So I really appreciate it. Yo, you guys are my brothers now. In Christ. Like, let's run this back, dude, anytime you want.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, actually, that reminds me. I will talk to you about Bohemian Grove. I think he would dig it. I. I would love to have Anthony there.

[Anthony Graffio]

Let's do it.

[David Lee Corbo]

We'll talk off. Stick around.

[Anthony Graffio]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

All right, guys, great episode. Until next time, don't forget to obey, submit and comply. We'll see you. Do it again. The end is written in the book.

[David Lee Corbo]

In the pages they for. When the last trumpet sound and the heaven.