Top Lobster (2:32)

If there's time.

David Lee Corbo (2:32)

If there's time. We'll talk about the turning point connections to Pizzagate. If there's time. If there's time. Joining us today to talk about that. Welcome back. I guess this is part three, technically.

Top Lobster (2:43)

Part 75, and a couple, maybe three or four full starts.

David Lee Corbo (2:46)

Yes. And it's probably 100 episode series. But Austin, before we get into this, let's tell everybody where they can find you.

Austin (2:53)

Awesome, brother. So you guys should definitely go subscribe to the underclass podcast on YouTube for sure. Basically, you can find it on all podcasting platforms as well. But I am doing whatever this is. We just did number 40, I think episode 40 last night, which was a lot of fun couple hours. We just kind of. Yeah. Deconstructed this bipartisan deception which is playing out as far as. Just in. In terms of the. The level of the manufactured immigration crisis that. That I believe is. Is, you know, strategically in reality, I think, generated to really escalate the culture war in this. In this kind of, I don't know, operational standpoint. It makes more sense in. In my mind that they're using this as a fund. Distract from so much of what's happening as well. And I think the level of demoralization that is attached to the media cycle is. It feels unprecedented in. In a certain sense. And my God, we're just bogged down in nonsensical debate over things that are truly meaningless at the end of the day. And, and when it boils down to it, if you don't have the proper. Just set of core values that you. You've essentially outlined and understood for yourself in a real way that then you. You just don't have the. The moral backbone that you can rely upon to not essentially fall into the premeditated outcome in this dystopian trap of how they pit us against each other in every sense of, of just the. The strategic outcome. And also considering the notion of just the, the level of. It's very interesting because I watched that one battle after another. I showed you gu. Of Colonel Lockjaw. Right. Sean's character.

David Lee Corbo (4:57)

Yeah, I. I was struggling to remember who showed me that. I saw the. The preview for it on. On TV and I was like, I gotta watch that. But I forgot who the hell told me to watch it. Okay. Yeah.

Austin (5:06)

Yeah. So it's, it's, you know, it's a great film as far as, like, from a direct. Just the standpoint of. Of a director or the, you know, directorial, you know, just expertise of Paul Thomas Anderson is very obvious. He's one of my favorite directors, honestly. He did. I think my favorite film of all time is probably Inherent Vice, which it stars Joaquin Phoenix and Josh Brolin and Benicio Del Toro, and it's got a pretty great cast, but for the most part, the main reason I appreciate it is because the value of what it introduces pop just in terms of pop culture wise, like it introduces this this very valuable concept of of honestly a perfect window into the playbook that you can apply into the clandestine operational kind of just again, we're talking the mind war, right? And and this is not at all limited to just the the psychological operational right value of of what they're implementing as far as the playbook is concerned. But it it, I think is holding I think it's hand in hand with that of, of the Gladio operation in modern form. And really this is just a diabolical strategy of tension to essentially domestically disrupt and destabilize right the general public in the US and and I think at really what ultimately takes place is they manufacture consent to you know, I think facilitate the the overall totalitarian tiptoe toward the technocratic state. And that in itself is is what I'm most concerned with because you can see it forming around us in, in the current moments. And I feel like everyone's just caught up in the ideological divisiveness of the window dressing in terms of the political puppets and how they leverage them against us. And, and my God, I I caught a, a brief glimpse into, you know, what, what the end game might potentially be as far as some of the. Just looking at like the Monarch program or Project Monarch, right? And seeing these, these stables of, of young boys that have been victimized prepubescent and to where they've. They've been essentially, you know, overexposed to these levels of programming that in in includes dissociative Identity disorder, right, which most of these victims suffer from. And what I saw was was Paul Benassi essentially who's a victim of the Franklin scandal and, and went public after Lawrence E. King. He sued him and won a million dollars I believe in the lawsuit. And he was claiming that Lawrence E. King brought him into the network at 12 years old and you know, sexually abused him and then basically tasked him with running rough shot after he was was programmed. Apparently what they had done is they had essentially provided him with altars which one of which would be suicidal. Right. So they handlers could essentially trigger this suicidal altar if he he, let's say, went off the reservation, so to speak, right. And and began to to blow the whistle or name names or or again provide a window into the the strategy at play here as far as the mind war is concerned in Project Monarch. Because the, the reason that I refer to it as that is is because the the book from Psyop to mind war, the psychology of victory, which feels like the modern PSYOP doctrine. And as far as the social engineering and psychological warfare aspect of, of what they have very well in terms of, evolved into this extremely sophisticated level that I think is basically impossible for most people to conceptualize at this point. Right. So, but the only point I'm making is, is it seems as if the end result was not only to utilize Paul Banasi to help procure other child victims and, and, you know, condition them to be submissive in terms of their abuse and, and things of that nature, but he, he was also supposed to allegedly join the military and then they would send him to Germany, which he had already been apparently distributing porno pornography, child pornography internationally on behalf of the network and specifically on behalf of the leadership hierarchy within nambla, the North American Man Boy Love Association. And, and, but the, the, what they apparently wanted him to ultimately become was this useful puppet in terms of. He would spend six years in the military, then he would be. And he would apparently be in some sort of prominent position during that time, then he would be brought back to the States, he would effectively retire after six years of military service, and then they would have him run for public office and he would basically become a politician. And what he claimed was that he would then therefore become ultimately a puppet on behalf of the network and they would utilize him as a prominent valuable asset to obviously push this dystopian agenda forward. So if that's legitimate, which I, I do believe this. And, and I think that Paul Benassi is directly connected in. With John Wayne Gacy and, and the, the, you know, John David Norman Odyssey foundation because he's the one who claimed that he witnessed the pink index cards, right, which, which were in John David Norman's warehouse and various properties where he, he kept his sexual blackmail archives, essentially. And, and it's just fascinating that, that he claimed that John Wayne Gacy was behind the kidnapping of Johnny Gosh, right. And the paper boy fetish that was ordered through Michael Aquino. And he names Michael Aquino as essentially the founder of the. And being involved as with the origin of Project Monarch and, and bringing it domestically into the States after studying essentially the Nazi scientists in these various. Right. Military operatives within the SS who had fundamentally helped evolve these techniques. So I don't know. It's just the only reason I bring that up is because I think the level of deception at this moment is, is again, I, I don't think the vast majority are even capable of properly interpreting, right. This, this manipulation as it's playing out. And, and I had just seen you, I had, I, I think I watched you. It was a tweet that you had made a couple of days ago about the, the Minneapolis ICE agent shooting this mother. Right. Fatally, which sparked nationwide protests obviously. And, and the reason I brought up one battle after another is because I remember first talking about it on whatever this is. And Sam was like, so what do you think the end result of this? Truly, you know, what was the intention behind the film, like, as far as the plot line and, and what was it attempting to evoke from the audience? And I really just came down with, with my, my takeaway being to further escalate the culture war through the immigration crisis and, or right. Also provide this left wing because it really was left wing progressive pornography propaganda in a way. Right. As far as like, it's all about this leftist revolutionary organization called the French 75. And, and what are they doing? They're, they're conducting and engaging in domestic terror operations as if they're a gladio paramilitary organization. It's just fascinating because I, I, I've seen that play out so many times. I mean, my God, in, in, in Belgium. Right? That's the same thing they were doing with the pelvic paramilitary groups there to destabilize the nation and, and essentially, you know, usher in the new leadership which would be fully compromised. Right. And, but anyway, it's, it's, well, you.

David Lee Corbo (13:29)

Know, what's funny about that? So I was, you remember the game Final Fantasy 7?

Austin (13:34)

Yes, I love that game.

David Lee Corbo (13:35)

Yeah, it's a great game. Well, how does it start off? You're part of a, of a, you know, sort of a civilian military group who is going about destroying a, basically like a nuclear reactor that's damaging to the environment. And even though it's going to cost like all of these people their electricity and their livelihoods, you frame it under the context of doing what's right for the planet. And so, you know, you're vindicated and you go about doing this thing as soon as the game launches. And I was playing that and thinking like, damn, they really did a fantastic job of planting that seed of being part of like the rebel group in our minds. You know, that was psychological warfare. So much of the, the cultural content that we got through the media was filled with this idea of like rebelling against the status quo, pushing against the, you know, the elites or whatever. Every video game was being part of a resurgence group, renegades that was here to destabilize and disrupt. And, and that really did bleed into the psychology of, of fat lesbians, you know, all over the place. You were talking earlier about that tweet that I made and I said, here this woman's death is being leveraged by the algorithm to drive us deeper into our ideological camps. I said, whether or not the shot was justified is almost meaningless. Given that what's being achieved is division, it's obvious that the only rational thing is to, is to turn away from it. Now here on this show, we're going to poke it, we're going to prod it, we're going to see how it fits into these different systems and operations that we're talking about. But the reason I made that tweet was because my wife, who is, you know, she doesn't use Twitter. She, if she, if she does use it, it's for dogs and cat videos and shit like that. Now I suspect what's happening here is because that's the content she absorb. The algorithm has determined she is a woman, thereby probably has left leaning values. So if you're going to show her one side or another of the culture war, you're going to show her this side. All morning she's looking at it, Austin, and all morning she's getting inundated with all these videos of the event. And none of the videos, none of the videos are showing the correct angle of this, this event.

Austin (15:44)

Right.

Top Lobster (15:44)

You were telling me that that's a sophisticated level of AI algorithm.

David Lee Corbo (15:48)

Yes. And I don't think that this event was fabricated. I think it was just opportunistic. It was the perfect kind of event where you can draw a dividing line and, you know, funnel people into one camp or the other.

Top Lobster (16:00)

Can I ask, because we're talking about like these levels of programming and I was just talking with somebody in the coffee shop about this and the guy, obviously we're in Florida, he's an older guy, so this is a right wing person. And he's like, you know, it's very simple, like, just obey the law. And I was like, yeah, you know, as, as a Christian, I'm not so sure that we're called to obey every law, so let's put that there. But as a radical left protester, they're very comfortable and they understand what the cops do. They say that they're murderers, they say that they're pigs, they say that they do xyz, they act on behalf of the state and they're not incorrect from a libertarian standpoint. I would say the same thing. If I was a libertarian right now, knowing that I would Also understand the circumstance that I'm in. Right?

Austin (16:44)

Yes.

Top Lobster (16:45)

You're going. Yeah. So if you're going to provoke a cop to do a thing, I don't see how you'd be surprised when the reaction and the action is this and we're gonna have some kind of nation now. The nationwide outrage is. Is completely different because once this perspective is put out there from both sides and once the story's out there, people are going to spin it and do what they want to do. But are we looking at an unintentional martyr, like a pre programmed martyr in such a sophisticated way that because they, they do know that this is kind of what will happen to them and then they kind of do this anyway.

Austin (17:16)

Right.

Top Lobster (17:17)

And here we go again. It's like, what exactly is this, in your opinion?

Austin (17:22)

Yeah, it's very interesting to me because like, first of all, none of this should have even happened. Right. And, and I think both sides look just both sides look terrible in terms of. Right. If you're objectively interpreting this, this high impact event, emotionally speaking. And, and obviously the. What it provides in terms of cannon fodder as far as the, the ideological subversion tactics being implemented upon us. But I just wanted to. To briefly mention that you brought up Final Fantasy 7. I thought of all the ancient deities involved that you're summoning these guardian forces. Shiva, Quetzalcoatl, like these are ancient deities that, that legitimately apply to understanding history and, and how much we've been inundated with these, these strange pantheon of gods. Whether it's. It's, you know, let's say neo pagan and it's in its new New Age form or, or, and, and I think so many different.

David Lee Corbo (18:26)

I love it when Austin goes there. I thought we did. We didn't even go there. He's like, did you notice all the ancient things?

Top Lobster (18:31)

I'm trying to keep it nuts and bolts for Austin.

David Lee Corbo (18:34)

Oh, let's go. Yes, you're absolutely right.

Top Lobster (18:36)

You've gone full blown crazy.

Austin (18:38)

So you guys had an effect on me, but I'm sorry, there's no cure. I think if you're being honest with yourself and you're willing to reflect on your ideas. Yeah. You just have to be able to identify and acknowledge the level of manipulation just in terms of psychologically speaking and how much we've been conditioned from childhood to fall into these preordained outcomes and these traps of ideology and these camps that are effectively prisons of mind control in a way. But Sephiroth as well, I always thought he was such A great character. You look into Sephiroth and my God, he's, he's basically drenched in the Kabbalah, right? And yeah, and it's fascinating.

David Lee Corbo (19:24)

The Sephiroth is called. I believe that's what the Kabbalah's tree is called.

Austin (19:27)

Yes, exactly. That's what the, the claim is. And it's just fascinating to me. And in no way is that coincidental obviously. But yeah, this new left wing martyr though, that's, that's very much, I think been, been essentially. Yeah. Designed and programmed into us to accept these individuals who effectively are just political victims in a way if they aren't. But I will question the, the reality of events such as this. Like my first thought was could this have been a staged event in, in any real way? Like I, I will start there. And mainly because the Boston Marathon bombing, I truly do believe, right. That was hyper reality filmmaking and crisis actors from Vision Box, the Denver Colorado acting studio provided them. And, and they bring hyper, you know, they bring reality and realism to, to these high impact events obviously. And, and, and they can activate them at any time with these. What I think is so strange is they have military grade moulage and blood assembly squibs or blood squib assemblies. Right. Which they basically will provide these crisis actors. Which is why I think they had the secondary explosion down the block after the primary explosion at the finish line. Because it, the timing of it was so perfect just in terms of, of a clandestine covert operation and how you would want to distract and draw attention away from the original scene and then also provide the smoke cover from the secondary blast for all the crisis actors to get into place. And, and, and watching the videos, it becomes, it just, it's, it's, it's too strange to completely, you know, set aside and, and be willing to. And especially deny, but the manufactured immigration crisis. What is the, what is the ultimate goal? Divide the general.

David Lee Corbo (21:23)

Go there. Because I do want to ask you. Well, are we going to. No. So I do want to ask you about that ultimate goal, but I want to highlight a little bit more about, about this situation and, and the way that it kind of gives to both sides. Right. So obviously it's a conservative value right now to be in alignment with, with ICE and to be against leftists and, and Democrats and things of that nature. And I know what you're talking about when you say there's, you have to have some amount of speculation as to whether or not this is a real event or it's a manufactured event. I tend to think it's a real event. I think that what happens is they set the stage for these events to take place and then they look for ones that are more opportunistic to frame than others. And I think this one just happened to be the gift that keeps on giving if you want to set a narrative. And it's just fascinating because you have that ice aspect. And then of course, you have the correct angle of the footage where you can see not only her tires spin, indicating that if she were to have traction in that moment, she probably would have done some damage to that guy. But you do obviously see the chest cam footage from him and proper angles where it's like, yeah, the guy got hit. He doesn't get hit in a way that's life threatening or anything. But this situation does go to a point. It's escalated to such a degree that she is now evading the authorities. She's managed to actually hit one of them. And for all intents and purposes, you can speculate, she's about to go on a chase. It's going to be a car chase, right? They're not going to let her go. Somebody's got to pursue her, which makes it exponentially more dangerous. It's icy out, you know, tensions are high. So there's your narrative for the right to justify the whole thing. And then of course, if you're on the left, you're only getting the video footage where you can't see the angle of him getting hit, you can't see the angle of the car tire spinning before they finally gain traction. And you're just seeing, you know, what looks to be culture warriors out there defending the downtrodden and these poor disaffected people who, by the way, got there by voting for porous border and poor immigration policy that leads to mass immigration. And who's voting for this? I did a little grok thing the other day where I was asking this question, you know, give me a list in the last 10 years of all the things that were on the ballot that you voted for that could have led to poorest borders and illegal, mass, illegal immigration. It gave me a whole list of them, primarily by voting for Democratic politicians. This is how you end up getting this thing. And then I said, give me the demographic that most supported this. Break it down into two groups, gender and age. Predominantly, it's Gen Z to millennial women. That's it at the end of the day, Gen Z to millennial women. Which is to say, and, you know, no real apologies to the ladies that are listening. I Think this is something you need to hear. High emotion, low information. Voters are voting for the very circumstances that lead to the thing that you're now objecting to, which is ice, because such a mess has been made that, you know, that takes a real shitty cleanup crew to get the job done. A lot of people are going to get swept up in it. A lot of chaos is going to happen. But they don't realize they're the ones. And I mean, they. Because these are the people that are the most vocal online right now that are screaming about this, you know, immigrant rights and nobody's illegal, and da, da, da, da. And they're screaming about all the horror stories. This is how you got here in the first place. Emotions. You got here by way of emotions in the first place. Now you're emotional about the thing that you were emotional about. It's a huge mess. My question is, now that we could see the two camps that this is broken into pretty obviously. It's just a matter of framing the narrative. What do you think the goal is? Because that's always the next question. Right? What's the goal now? Now we've established, Austin, that division is the goal. Right. Is that the only thing that you think is happening here?

Austin (25:05)

Well, it's. It's so funny to see the. The blatant display of ideological hypocrisy attached to the. The interpretation on both sides of the political aisle, obviously. And I. I think just, you know, seeing the deporter in chief obviously open up the. The. As far as just, you know, allowing Venezuelans, refugee or Venezuelans to essentially. Right. Apply for refugee status. Right.

David Lee Corbo (25:35)

Crazy.

Austin (25:36)

It's fascinating. You see that, and then you see him basically buying Greenlanders for a hundred thousand dollars a pop. It's just like, what. What are we doing here? And then. Then as far as. Even when Maduro is kidnapped. Right. What do you see with the left? You know, they're overtly defending him. Although Biden ran on the same agenda of regime change in Venezuela and was effectively laying the stage and essentially even, I believe, providing the groundwork for this immigration crisis in terms of, you know, freely opening up the borders to such an extent. This is the pendulum swing of the bipartisan deception, and people aren't aware of how it's leveraged against us. And it's truly just the window dressings that we focus on in terms of, you know, how we defend and protect against our own best interest, which is fascinating because we would prefer to, you know, defend a perfect stranger who's more than likely a Politically connected pedophile. Right. Who in no way is out for the best interest of the general public in terms of society at large. But as far as I, you know, and also what's interesting is, is the fact that it wasn't his body cam footage that we got that additional footage of that basically justified. It was really the right wing angle, I guess you could, you could call it. But, but yeah, I mean, obviously, you know, it's a, it's a problem in terms of if you're actually making contact with a police officer or an agent of some kind. I mean, like you're legitimately asking, asking for a reaction. And, and I think in no way have we, we been given the example or, or let's just say the window into the status quo in terms of. Right. Police obviously, more often than not tend to escalate and instead of de escalate, which I find to be a legitimate problem. And, and in no way.

David Lee Corbo (27:37)

I was watching a video on that, on today's morning show and I was making a joke about it, but it is true. These people, they're standing around, they're screaming at the police. This elderly white women with bad haircuts screaming, shoot me in the face. Shoot me in the face.

Austin (27:52)

They'll do it.

David Lee Corbo (27:53)

Well, and I said, I was like, if you're one of these guys, it's just human nature. You're thinking in your mind, please cross the line.

Top Lobster (28:00)

Okay, give me a reason.

David Lee Corbo (28:02)

Yes, give me a reason.

Top Lobster (28:03)

Especially with like the way they're aligned politically. Like, again, like, if they're hard right leaning and they're talking about this stuff in the locker room with each other, they're, they're saying like, I w. I wish you would. You know, I wish, I wish they. And then you give them a reason and there you go.

Austin (28:19)

The entire purpose of the uniform is to separate yourself and segregate yourself from the rest of the general population. And that leads to the team ideology. Right? And, and that plays very much into how they view it. And as far as just policing in general in America, it's, it's them against. It's us against them. And that's, that's very much the prevailing mentality on both sides, which is unfortunate. Or, or you fall into the right wing camp of, of, you know, the thin blue line, which is just as much of a problem in my opinion. You know, and, and I, I just. These are the stormtroopers of the empire in, in my mind. And, and when you green light and hyperactivate the immigration force to, to obviously I think most of this is very much for public perception purposes only as far as look at all. Also, ICE has specifically been tasked by the current administration to create content. To create viral content.

David Lee Corbo (29:18)

And it's also really good. I'm not saying I agree with it, but I'm like, damn, this is well done.

Top Lobster (29:23)

The Trust, the plan stuff is a lot.

David Lee Corbo (29:25)

That's what's really crazy. The trust, the Plan Patriots are in control.

Top Lobster (29:28)

It's alarming because it's. It's alarming at how clued in they are.

David Lee Corbo (29:32)

Yeah.

Top Lobster (29:32)

To what? The mythos is around Trump and them, and they're playing exactly to that narrative. I just. I really wish I could put my mind. I mean, maybe we should have that guy Dave. Dave Snedeker back on.

David Lee Corbo (29:44)

Yeah.

Top Lobster (29:45)

Great. Great dude. And I think he was really good on, like, a lot of the Q post stuff, but he's still in that community. I just really would love to know what is going on.

Austin (29:53)

Yeah.

Top Lobster (29:53)

With them right now, because they're being validated and confirmed.

David Lee Corbo (29:58)

Well, this is the thing.

Top Lobster (29:59)

Crazy.

David Lee Corbo (29:59)

I think that Q serves this purpose. And. And Austin, you just said something a moment ago. These are the stormtroopers. Right. These are the. The ground soldiers, the enforcers for this power structure. What I think is fascinating. That could be. And I. I really want your opinion on this, Austin, because you're much more keyed into this than I am. I'm politically retarded. I just have feelings about a certain thing. And what I see happening right now is people.

Top Lobster (30:25)

Emotions about it.

David Lee Corbo (30:26)

I got emotions. I see people cheering for the empire. To what end, though? To what end? Because for many, many years, everyone. Conspiracy theorist, doesn't matter whatever, has been speculating that part of the plan. Trust. The plan is to create martial law in these major city centers. Right. I never thought that I would ever see a day come where people were more or less cheering for martial law. Right. And call it what you will. Lipstick on a goat. I don't know if that's an expression, but it's the military presence.

Top Lobster (30:59)

What is it? Well, he had some lipstick, but that's.

David Lee Corbo (31:11)

But any other name. It doesn't matter. What we're talking about is a military presence in a city area locking it down, enforcing curfews, checking for papers, et cetera, et cetera. I always imagined that that was going to be on everybody's radar and that it was going to be a bad thing and that, you know, much like all the programming I was subjected to in my youth, we were going to be part of the Rebellion, you know, that there was going to be checkpoints and lockdowns and we were going to be. Now anybody who's at least a little bit of a critical thinker is going throw these leftists in jail. You know, basically rooting for the side that would be implementing martial law. It takes a little bit more of peeping game above that to be like, oh my God, is this a plan? Is it finally here to implement martial law in these major city centers? Or am I just an alarmist?

Austin (32:03)

Well, you know, the same thing fundamentally took place with no kings, right. As far as just the overwhelming outcry from, from the right wing base as far as just, you know, entirely just willing to facilitate and, and call for intervention as far as the federal agents being deployed and even the National Guard ob obviously to, to essentially combat this left wing threat that was forming. But you know, what this will do is through the bipartisan deception in the pendulum swing if we allow this pretext. Right. As far as this is a sort of a, a precedent setting operation in a certain sense in my mind. And that because it leans into the, the notion that in the future, as far as the next left wing administration that that comes into office now, what if they want to just as much implement this strategy just ideologically, you know, in reverse as far as I'm concerned. And, and so in, in inevitably what we will see is right wing protests take place under the next left wing presidential administration and then the left wing will just as much call for federal intervention, National Guard presence and, and you will see a further crackdown in right wing states as well and major city centers. More than likely. That's just my expectation because that's how they consistently push the goal posts right into that, that more dystopian direction. And, and unfortunately, all the while manufacturing consent, as far as just the subversive notion of how they, they, they essentially. Yeah, just, just it's, it's all about psychological manipulation in my opinion, to, to for that very purpose of creating that tool or you know, at the very least leveraging that tool of manufactured consent for their benefit. And you see, the reason I mentioned the, the body cam not being the source of that footage, because I would love to see the body cam footage, but it's not yet been made available. The only thing that we've witnessed is apparently from his cell phone. So you have Jonathan Ross, the, the ICE agent who effectively murdered Renee Nicole. Good. Right. Or at least killed her, justifiably, whatever you want to say. Yeah, exactly right. And, and the other thing is Is it my issue with obviously, you know, do you really need to shoot to kill in that moment? Is. Is my concern. And, and, and I just felt like not the proper reaction in them. But again, it's like, man, you would.

David Lee Corbo (34:47)

I don't think you had to, but I do think it would stand up in a court of law.

Top Lobster (34:50)

I.

Austin (34:50)

Right.

Top Lobster (34:51)

I'll probably write this if I'm pulling out my gun.

Austin (34:57)

Maim and wound someone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And by the way, that leads to an occult numerology connection and a very interesting reference point from one J.D. vance, which was perfect, perfectly packaged in the moment and probably went under the radar because it was in tweet form. But I'll, I'll tell you that in a second because it completely, it applies directly to that of the ICE agent, right. Who, who. Jonathan Ross, who, who apparently was holding his iPhone in one hand and the gun in the other, which is. What are you doing, bud? You know, like, this is, this is how you guys operate on the ground. You got to make that content, son. And, and so, yeah, ICE apparently is under pressure from the White House to create as much content as possible. And the Washington Post actually reported on this and I thought it was fascinating because you have thousands of internal ICE messages that went public through this report and they were having all this, that it was very commonplace for, for them to be celebrating over, over much of, of the viral content of the arrests and, and even some of the more violent interactions with, with these immigrants or, or left wing protesters, whatever. And, and so interestingly to me, you, you have ICE basically being told by the current administration and to, to not only fundamentally create these more engaging social media channels on behalf of the, the, the federal organization, but it was during this current administration when Trump basically greenlit the immigration crisis during his second term as a priority. And I, and again, this is for public perception as far as you're getting what you voted for. No, you're not. You see the hypocrisy blatant in your face as far as Venezuelans now are seeking refugee status and after our regime change operation. So it's a little difficult for, for me to. Obviously not. And I mentioned the left wing hypocrisy. I mean it was under Maduro where pornography was outlawed, abortion was, was essentially outlawed. And, and I mean there were so many different policies that would fly in the face of their alleged ideology in the standpoint of what they, they find to be most crucial and pivotal group.

David Lee Corbo (37:19)

That would be usury being outlawed pornography.

Top Lobster (37:22)

And I'm not getting Into.

David Lee Corbo (37:23)

Okay, all right.

Austin (37:25)

Which, by the way, sorry, I just.

David Lee Corbo (37:29)

Wanted to say, I know I'm alluding to the Jews in this particular instance, but I do happen to think that that's part of the theater of this is like, is another drop in the bucket of the Jew noticers, you know.

Austin (37:41)

Oh, yeah.

Top Lobster (37:41)

And it's just more that plays into it. It's, it is interesting as, as Austin is talking about this like this volleyball ping pong effect of like, like we're putting, we're putting this increasing totalitarianism that's going from, from the left to the right back to the left, seemingly with the midterm elections. I just, what I know for sure is it has to end up in the right. Whatever we're seeing with Christian nationalism and like the, the bizarre nature of this, of the government that you, you're describing and the people that are willing to back it and its, it's, it's large sweeping motions to arrest or kill its citizens or whatever it may be, and they're cheering it on. We just had a pastor on that. I did ask that. I said, hey, he wants to, you know, do something to all of the people that are light in the loafers. And I go, well, who? And he goes, yeah, you know, the government. I was like, the same government that's filled with pedophiles, the same government that created death camps and death curriculum in Columbine.

David Lee Corbo (38:42)

I think they need a re. Education camp would be nice.

Top Lobster (38:45)

Yeah, man.

Austin (38:46)

I'm saying that it's, it's, it's. You'd mentioned Christian nationalism. I think Christianity is attempting to be hijacked, if not, you know, in terms of this political application. Yeah. And, and I think that Peter Thiel and his acolytes are very much involved in, in pushing this framework of the new age Antichrist, which I think, you know, falls perfectly in place with this Baconian philosophy that they reference at all times, which. Francis Bacon. I mean, are you kidding me? This, this is a Rosicrucian mission, honestly. And, and, and to see the level of control he has over one JD Vance as well. Who, Who? My God, he, he claims in the hillbilly elegy or whatever he wrote that. That he had convinced himself he was gay. That's a quote in the book. I convinced myself I was gay. That's what he says. And J.D. vance, man. And, and if you look, I, I read this investigative article called the Catholic coup, JD Vance, PayPal, mafia Opus Day and Knights of Malta. And yeah, it blew me away because I, I truly do believe Opus Dei, P2 Le Circle, the Knights of Malta they they are all heavily involved and have been I mean from, from. I think it was Kissinger who was in the Knights of Malta and, and along with one of his key acolytes as well within the context of the Watergate scandal. Which was very interesting that, that he was very much a prominent member of, of these organizations of P2 and things of that nature. But yeah, it was what I thought was so crazy about that is, is that basically JD Vance claims that he converted to Catholicism after being a self described atheist right. Who had convinced himself he was gay. Then he cites Peter Thiel directly for being the reason for this radical change in ideology and for his religious conversion on top of that. And then he talks about how the most important event in my time as a law student at Yale was a talk by Peter Thiel in 2011 and he claims he, he basically Teal was, was obsessed with this French philosopher Rene Girard who proposed a theory of memetic rivalry along with the idea of universal scapegoat goat myth apparently. And, and so yeah this, this group becomes effectively cult like is how they're described at Stanford. As far as Teal's little usual suspects and these, these strange venture capitalists and everything surrounding him. And one one was known as like a white nationalist by the name of Jeff Giesa Geisa and not entirely sure how to pronounce his name but he's the one who apparently was behind weaponizing memes politically speaking. Dude, it's fascinating. And, and what did he do? He, his first order of business apparently was to combat and Hillary Clinton although he would later on effectively support Biden which I thought was interesting. But on behalf of the Trumps Trump campaign in 2016 Hillary Clinton became the scapegoat of this memetic warfare. This which I thought was very interesting. And, and so anyway I just think when, when you see and the, the, the implication is that apparently basically two thirds of the judges in the Supreme Court are, are part of an organized crime syndicate in a ring which involves these, these, these Jesuits and, and P2 and, and yeah the Knights of Malta. So again it's like if, if that's the, if that's the background to the PayPal mafia and, and if you want to look into Peter Thiel's father PayPal.

David Lee Corbo (42:40)

I actually want to say this real quick because he mentioned the universal scapegoat myth which I never heard of and I imagine that the, there's people in the audience who haven't so it's core structure is a crisis emerges, a social breakdown, economic collapse, moral panic, political instability, something like that. Collective anxiety seeks resolution. So in that way, it's almost a kind of parallel to a Hegelian dialectic. Right. So the community cannot face its own internal contradictions or failures. And so blame is externalized. Person or a group is marked as other foreigners, heretics, witches, traitors, elites, peasants, minorities, kings, or even gods.

Austin (43:16)

Gods.

David Lee Corbo (43:17)

Ritual expulsion or destruction takes place. So this exiled, killed, imprisoned, canceled, or symbolically destroyed, and temporary restoration of order ensues. So the social cohesion returns until the next crisis. So I thought that was actually really fascinating because it's like a more thoughtful Hegelian dialectic instead of a simple. I mean, it is a problem, reaction, solution, but it's a little bit more focused on, you know, what the. What the reaction would be. The reaction would be in this particular instance is to identify a scapegoat. And then the solution would be to, you know, kill or exile or cancel them. So in that way, you can see that these, These things, they do a great job of outlying the systems that we're subjected to constantly. And it's why I've receded from Twitter and I know you've done something similar top. Where it's like, Twitter to me is only fun if I can get on there, cause a little bit of chaos, say something funny, say something outrageous. But. But what it's become lately is a.

Top Lobster (44:18)

Place where the exercise in futility.

David Lee Corbo (44:20)

Yes. Because the official players have won out. I think there is no reclaiming Twitter. There was a time where things were in flux.

Top Lobster (44:27)

Well, there's been. There's also been a very clear line drawn of if you want to be an official player. Yeah. Here's what you got to do.

David Lee Corbo (44:36)

Yes.

Top Lobster (44:36)

And it's. It's about the algorithm. So it's like, all right, if. Do you want to feed this thing? And for a while I'm like, yeah, I'll play on the. Along the lines of the algorithm. But as you see, the algorithm could just like dive into more. Not obscurity, but like, not even insanity, but just like, it's. Because it's a. It's a guided insanity.

David Lee Corbo (44:55)

It's like almost mockingbird media. Like, yeah.

Top Lobster (44:57)

And they're like, here, comment on this. And like, you know, here, do your thing.

Austin (45:01)

Yeah, but.

Top Lobster (45:02)

And I'm looking at him like, I. I refuse. I just don't want to do that anymore.

David Lee Corbo (45:07)

There was a time, a short window after Elon got it, where the influencers, let's use that gay terminology. Who were really big on Twitter. All of a sudden they were brought down and the average person was elevated and given a chance through the new system of like buying a blue check mark and things like that.

Top Lobster (45:22)

And I experience immediately after he handpicked the people that he wanted to promote, and then that didn't work because they.

David Lee Corbo (45:30)

Got pointed out it was just a new game.

Top Lobster (45:31)

So now the quiet game is very much. This is what we're talking about today.

Austin (45:37)

But now Rock AI is apparently generating child pornography without any sort of accountability whatsoever. Did you hear this? Which is fascinating stuff. But yeah, honestly, with. With this story, like I. I thought it was, was perfectly up the alley in the avenue of. Of what these PayPal mafia pedophiles are hoping to essentially ultimately achieve. And, and again, it's like, are we still talking about Epstein? Because obviously not. And as far as the new demoralizing news cycle and media cycle that we're experiencing in this moment, so we're all basically enduring this. This sinister form of. Of the strategy of tension. Right. But I do think that it's. It' to at least, you know, mention the fact that that clearly one. I had mentioned that. That 33. Because I. I talked about the occult reference that. That J.D. vance had made, and I feel like I should at least mention that real quick. But.

David Lee Corbo (46:41)

Yeah.

Austin (46:42)

What did I just say, though? I was about to tell you something and I, I forgot because I instantly thought of the 33. But you had. You just sparked something in my mind's eye top. And I can't remember now what the. It was.

David Lee Corbo (46:54)

We were talking about the influencers and basically like the new game that's being played on Twitter and, and why we receded from that. That's very much like a Mockingbird media kind of, you know.

Austin (47:03)

Right. Right. Okay. Yeah. Okay, Let me just tell you this tweet then. Then I'll. I'll reference that Mockingbird media aspect to Minnesota and then we'll segue into Columbine finally. And. And, but so J.D. vance decided he's going to shame everyone who's. Who's essentially interpreting this as. As police violence. That was unjustified. Right? And, you know, yeah, he. He basically said every. Everybody repeating the lie. This is some innocent woman out for a drive in Minnesota. You should be ashamed of yourselves. Every single one of you. What that headline leaves out is the fact that that very ICE officer nearly had his life ended, dragged by a car six months ago, 33 stitches in his leg. Maybe he's a little bit sensitive about Somebody ramming him with an automobile. Yeah, like, oh my God, bud. Like it's, it's.

David Lee Corbo (47:58)

Well, so there's an emotional leverage, which is always something that you should watch out for. And then there's the occult insertion of, of the number 33, which is, you know, always rearing its, its ugly head. But man, I mean, they can't stop that, huh? No, they can't. But everybody who's, who's, you know, even if you're on the side of the ICE agent, never let anybody who's in a position of authority start leveraging you emotionally. That's to a lot of real bad places. Because what about grandma? What about people? Like all this emotional leverage is how we got to some really horrifying places.

Top Lobster (48:32)

So it's also how we got to like, like some dark places for ourselves. Like we had to deal with people trying to emotionally leverage us. And then I had to actively shut down any emotions that I have. And then that makes, it kind of makes you a bad person.

David Lee Corbo (48:49)

We even talked about at the top of the show, how did these people get to this position where there's mass immigration and, and ICE agents are, you know, getting the good and the bad and everybody in between in the wrap up. It's because you have low information, but you're highly emotionally reactive. Those two things are a really bad combination. And that's how we got here. That's exactly how we got here. So anytime they want to use children, which, you know, they've done that too. What about the children? I mean, I know it sounds cold, but you, what about the children? You don't. I, I'm not hearing it because it's always packaged in, you know, as something that looks like empathy and sympathy and all of the above. And then what's within it is something, you know, always horrible. So what is he trying to get right now? You know, he's trying to galvanize people to their ideologies even further. Because when J.D. vance comes out and speaks to one side, the people that hate him are going to flock to the other side and they're already over there.

Top Lobster (49:43)

You think he really had 33 stitches though?

David Lee Corbo (49:46)

What if he actually just did have 33?

Austin (49:50)

It is crazy though. The, the number of, just as far as the 33 symbolism and, and that's layered into these, these strange impact, high impact events and emotion, arousing, violent false flags, which it does feel like is, is a key component in, in what I view as. Because they list that out as far as within the context of the mind War. It's fascinating but I do remember what it was. It was the AI uh chat bot generating uh, basically child porn. Right. And essentially there, there's a user photo, a poster posted photo, right. That. So this user basically prompted Grok to generate an image and it was an image of two young girls, the one of them being 12 to 14, the other 14 to 16. And he prompted Grock to generate an AI image of them in sexy underwear. Turned around Grock then created the image and shared it on December 28th. Faith and obviously the content that was depicted is, is in illegal and unlawful in terms of minors being sexually exploited and depicted under U S Law. They even mentioned the, the specific law that, that it violates. But yeah, the penalty itself includes like up to 5 to 20 years in prison and 250 thousand dollar fine and to register yourself as a sex offender.

Top Lobster (51:21)

Right.

David Lee Corbo (51:21)

And people that are into that lowly or lolly, whatever it is, the, the like form of anime. We've had this discussion on this show before to some degree because oh, maybe it was on a timeline cleanse but there was like some bus driver who was male, but he's dressed like a woman, he's horrifying, he's got pigtails and he calls himself lowly in the chats. Like that's actually a thing comes from, I forget like some movie or something like that. But it has to do with, with an anime genre too where all of the characters are like children. And then you know, there's all this horrifying crap that goes. And they say well it's just cartoons, nobody's harmed. That's funny to know that there's a law about that because if Grok can go to jail, so so can these anime enjoyers.

Austin (52:08)

Exactly. And what they're claiming is that potentially the XAI could face investigative probes and individual liabilities vary. But we all know no, no one in terms of the leadership at X will be held accountable for this. And, and that's what is so disturbing at the end of the day. And, and my conclusion being that you know they're, they're conditioning us to for one, they're normalizing pedophilia. That that is happening. And, and it's, it's a real just. It's a disgusting pro, you know, a prospect. But at the same time the only, the only last point I wanted to mention as far as Minneapolis and then we'll, we'll finally segue is that you know, what Renee Good reminded me of was it she's receiving this very similar Disingenuous Mockingbird media manipulative and and reactionary spotlight. Right. Which it reminded me instantly of Ashley Babbitt. It just a reversal ideologically. Right. It didn't feel this.

Top Lobster (53:13)

Yeah.

Austin (53:13)

And the timing of it so uniquely you know, convenient in terms of just after January 6th this takes place. Right. And so it just struck me in honestly instantly I thought of the bipartisan pendulum swing and, and how this deception really plays out and, and the ICE agents. Obviously I think that 33 connection is just too much to, to set aside just because I find it so fascinating and obviously it, it could just be coincidental but my God, you pair that with the influencer industrial complex and all these strange prominent voices cheerleading these, these, you know, I mean we're violating international law, kidnapping a foreign leader. I don't care what you think think of the person. And oh, the communist justification. No shed tears over a dead commie. You know, it's just like man, here's the issue is, is that I think at the end of the day if you don't actually have. You know, because again it truly reveals the lack of ethical consistency. That's what I believe despite ideological differences, which is very disgusting to witness and, and something that, that I find very frustrating because obviously I tried to remove myself from the ideological capture that that is. Is permeating through modern society in this way disrupting where we honestly any, any kind of genuine and organic path that we could potentially be on as a society is is completely and totally you know just disrupted by this process and this, this current agenda and playbook. But yeah, you have to maintain principled core values in order with the proper moral foundation I think to rely upon in times of crisis like this. And man, otherwise you're just leaving yourself entirely vulnerable to this sophisticated level of, of propaganda which is just consistently and constantly leveraged against us by, by these unelected bureaucrats for the most part obviously utilizing these, these political puppets, but they're so heavily invested in controlling the outcome and, and the, the main tool of which they, they rely upon seems to be the age old tactic of manufactured consent. So yeah, give them what they want.

David Lee Corbo (55:42)

They do it like Every. So it's 20 1-6-2021 obviously. And then in January of 2023 we have another tier Nichols protest and Stop Cop City protests that end up getting violent and all this other CRAP. And then January 2024 and then January 2025 with the immigrant policy protests and then now 2026 with the anti ICE protests. It's like every. I noticed that Like, January just seems to be like, they pick a flavor.

Austin (56:10)

Here's.

David Lee Corbo (56:10)

Let's do some political protests and some civil unrest in January seems to be.

Austin (56:15)

The thing ever since December last year. Right. I mean, it was, was, it was the, the New Orleans attack and the, the Vegas cyber truck. Right. I mean, my God, it's just. Psyop season is alive and well. Right?

David Lee Corbo (56:29)

I, I, I don't think we ever left it. It's just like, we keep calling it Psyop season, but every couple of months we're still saying Psyop season. And I'm like, we are in this era of humanity where the, the, the Psyop machine, they've realized it works really well. They've dialed it up to 10 and somebody just broke the handle off and has left it running. And, and I don't know where it all.

Top Lobster (56:50)

It's like the entire government is, has its iPhone in his hand and it's just making content. Yeah.

David Lee Corbo (56:56)

We are the content. That's a horrifying.

Austin (57:01)

If you don't know. Now you know. Right? That's what I mean. Like the white. Official White House account.

David Lee Corbo (57:09)

Doing it in a way where I, like, like it too. I'm like, this, this is, this is a bad. All right, all right. I want to move on to.

Austin (57:17)

Can I, can I go take a piss real quick? And then I'll actually start with Columbine. All right, I'll be right back.

David Lee Corbo (57:22)

Let's do that.

Top Lobster (57:23)

We'll take a quick break. Let's do that.

David Lee Corbo (57:25)

Yeah. Let's mark this down and we'll edit it out. Or maybe we won't edit it. I don't know what we'll do. 57 mark. But yeah, so, so what he's talking about with the Columbine thing, and this is what I wanted to. You keep it under wraps and I wanted you to hear it live on the show. But we said it at the top. He was talking about those death education camps last time we had him on being in Columbine. Familiarizing children with death and which is.

Top Lobster (57:51)

I don't know if it's so bad.

David Lee Corbo (57:54)

But to have a course like, it's.

Top Lobster (57:56)

You know, I don't want state. I don't want a state teacher teaching my kid that. Like I, I teach my kid about death. Like, it was good with the chicken and things like that, the dog, they're able to see this and become familiar. It's a part of life. When you're learning it from school, it becomes a little bit slippery. Like, same thing with sex.

David Lee Corbo (58:12)

Sex I don't want the state teaching my kid about BFing. Well, they about to BFing and then dying. That's a crazy lineup as those classes.

Top Lobster (58:20)

Which order that, well, what is life besides.

David Lee Corbo (58:23)

Besides BF and getting bf'd and then dying. Yeah, I agree, though. There are certain things. Things like my son was saying. He's. He's in fifth grade now, and he's saying he doesn't have, like, health classes. Like, no health class. And my wife was. My wife was like, well, when I was younger, we had it in, like, third grade or something like that. I don't remember having health class maybe until middle school, I don't think. I do remember that. There was a point, though, where the teacher brought in dildos and everything. And now in hindsight, I'm like, dude, what the hell is wrong.

Austin (58:56)

Wrong with people?

David Lee Corbo (58:57)

All right, Austin. So earlier, before we started the show, we were kind of outlining what we're going to discuss, and of course, the concept of death education programs came up within the context of Columbine, and you said that you had some more elements to elaborate on that, and two of the things that you said stuck out to me. They're teaching kids. I don't even know what this means. All right? I don't. Don't understand how to frame this, but they're teaching kids about pornography, and they're teaching kids about voodoo. And when you said that, I said, stop, please stop talking. We got to talk about this on the show. Obviously, the spiritual implications of voodoo, the spiritual implications of pornography, something that comes up constantly on this show. I had no idea.

Top Lobster (59:44)

And death.

David Lee Corbo (59:45)

And death. That they were teaching kids.

Top Lobster (59:48)

Interesting trifecta.

David Lee Corbo (59:49)

So, So I want to start. Start there because that's very. It's. It's morbidly fascinating, but I think it's also very telling given the fruits of. Of this program. And I would say the fruits of this program are obviously Columbine. And so. What do you mean they're teaching kids about. Let's start with the pornography.

Austin (60:09)

What? Yeah, yeah. So I believe it was in terms of teaching the children how to have better sex, which was just, yeah, abhorrent to imagine. But. But then you have this. This really. I, I gained a brief window into what was potentially happening at the school through one of the. The Columbine students, who later on, he's really. There's a tragic story attached to this individual, and it seems like, you know, he was essentially prioritized and, And. And basically, you know, hung out to dry in a. In a very strategic way. Just operationally speaking, how, how they effectively eliminate some loose end, so to speak. And, and this. So a few days after Columbine, you have this, this strange meeting that takes place between high ranking members of the Jefferson County Police Department. And all these major officials are holding a private meeting at Jeffco. Right. Jefferson County Open Space Center. Center is what it was called. And so they called it the open space meeting. And it was to discuss liabilities of what was called the GIRA affidavit, which basically proved that the Jefferson County Sheriff's Office failed to follow up on this affidavit and which would have led them to actually being able to file for a search warrant. It would have easily been obviously greenlit in terms of the search warrant and would have been approved.

David Lee Corbo (61:42)

And, and I'm unsure, Austin, an affidavit is, is what, like a legal testimony.

Austin (61:47)

Or accusation, an internal documentation for an investigative purpose is being filed as an open case in a way which will provide a, A sec. Or basically an avenue for the investigating officers to then present this affidavit as a means to essentially acquire a search warrant and, and be. Be granted the privilege of obviously searching the private residence of one Eric Harris, which is what would have happened because Eric Harris had apparently this long standing, like legal background of criminal interactions that he was having with these specific sheriff's deputies, by the way, from Sheriff's Deputy Tim Walsh was one of them. And I believe this is where you have the allegations which were effectively generated in terms of, of Eric Harris being potentially sexually abused and raped by Sheriff's Deputy Tim Walsh. And that was all leading up to Columbine. And so now I thought, considering the notion that it does look like methamphetamine was being trafficked and distributed through Blackjack Pizza, through some.

David Lee Corbo (62:57)

I just want to say, Austin, you're framing this. I want the audience to keep this in mind.

Austin (63:01)

Mind.

David Lee Corbo (63:02)

This could be framed as one of two things. Either a, this is just a terrible thing that happened and this guy is a predator and he did this thing, or you're teaching there's this obsession with voodoo and pornography and death. And now the introduction of methamphetamine, which in our opinion on this show opens up the door to entities. You've got all the elements for a purposeful, mission driven sexual assault that leads to, you know, if you're within the occult arena, this is sex magic. You know what I mean? So, so I, I want people to maybe. I'm not saying that that's definitively what's happening here, but consider Framing it that way because those are one too many elements of, of sex magic to be coincidental in my opinion. Voodoo teaching about death pornography, introducing it to children, methamphetamine and sexual assault. I mean we're doing, we're doing all the blappening here. This is some Aleister Crowley and Sex Magic 100.

Austin (64:07)

And you know, John DeCamp, who was a former Nebraska state senator, I believe, and, and uh, inevitably wrote the book the Franklin Cover up on the, The Franklin Scandal and Child Abuse Network. He, he's the one who provided the context of Michael Aquino basically, you know, manufacturing the, and founding the original origin of, of the Monarch Project and also being behind the stable of boys at Mon. At Offut Air Force Base and things of that nature. But, but it's interesting because he plays a role in Columbine. John DeCamp does. And basically he's, he's the one who provides the, the window into the possibility of, of Eric and Dylan being victims of sexual abuse directly from members of the sheriff's department. Right? And, and so John DeCamp, he's, he's dealing with a victims advocate by the name of Ron Any at the time. And basically these are the original sources for the, the potential sexual abuse claims in the rape of Eric Harris. And the claim is that Columbine shooters had been raped during their January 1998 arrest by Jefferson County Sheriff's Deputy Tim Walsh. And DeCamp had first. I know, I know.

David Lee Corbo (65:24)

Wait, wait, wait, wait. Say that sentence over again.

Austin (65:27)

So John DeCamp and a child victims advocate named Ron Anyye claimed that Columbine shooters had both been raped during their January 1998 arrest by Jefferson County Sheriff's Deputy Tim Walsh.

David Lee Corbo (65:41)

And they shot up the school, then they got arrested and then they got bf'd.

Austin (65:46)

It's crazy, right? Well, it looks like in 98 that was leading up to the event, so it seems as if they were potentially being raped before they actually carried out the crime. Right. And so, yeah, that's more sense because.

David Lee Corbo (65:59)

I was like, the deed's already done. Which is probably was. Would have been the goal of all of this psychological torment. MK Ultra makes more sense now. Yeah, this has happened pre.

Top Lobster (66:08)

This show seems to be a lot about like the topic of, of butt sex.

David Lee Corbo (66:13)

Well, that's what I was telling him. I was saying, you know, just for context for the audience. You stepped out to go to the bathroom. I think it's important that you hear this. You know, we're dealing with all these elements, right? Voodoo, death, education, pornography with children, methamphetamine, and. And BFing.

Top Lobster (66:29)

It's like, yeah, what was it? The Powerpuff Girls, where they're pouring the ingredients. How you do it.

David Lee Corbo (66:36)

That is how you do a little chemical X. Yeah. Yeah, dude.

Austin (66:39)

But I really do think that. Because I had mentioned that Columbine survivor, one of the student victims was Mark Taylor. And we'll get into his, you know, the tragic outcome of his life, unfortunately. But it seems to really be reinforced by John DeCamp because he originally defended Mark Taylor, which I thought was fascinating and. And obviously really important because it's a direct overlay to obviously, the individual who made the. The original claim of.

David Lee Corbo (67:07)

Of.

Austin (67:08)

Of obviously Eric and Dylan being sexually abused by a sheriff's deputy. But it does make sense in terms of one. I think there was an active child sex ring operating in the area that was dealing with members of the Trench Coat Mafia and other students of. Of not only Columbine, but other local high schools that were in the area as well. And it seems like that's where we got most of the. One of the. One of the students actually was caught with child porn in his backpack. And he. He basically was. Was interviewed and interrogated by an investigating officer, which is when he went on the record with all these just extraordinary statements about the Trench Coat Mafia and the inner workings of the various factions and how they were represented by even having different names for the various local factions and groups in certain geographical areas, which would provide a distinction. But. Yeah. So it is fascinating though, that it looks like according to the camp who first represented Mark Taylor, as I mentioned, and, and by the way, he was shot several times during Columbine, and apparently he. He, uh, sought a legal case and. And litigation against Solvay Pharmaceuticals specifically, which was the maker of the psychiatric drug Luvox, which happened to be the same psychiatric antidepressant that Adam Lanza was on, James Holmes was on. And it looks like Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold were potentially also on this. This antidepressant known as Luvox, which was a medication that had been recently prescribed Eric Harris leading up to this. So. So.

David Lee Corbo (68:53)

But that case, one that works. Yeah, by the way, you go, okay, that one works really well.

Austin (68:57)

It seems so. And. But that case was inevitably dropped. So. But Luvix or Fluvoxamine is. Is what it's also known as. It is a part of a class of drugs known as selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, obviously SSRIs, which is primarily used for major depressive disorder and obsessive compulsive Disorder now that plays in.

David Lee Corbo (69:20)

Primarily used to disorder disassociate individuals. But.

Austin (69:22)

Yeah, exactly. And I think the OCD aspect of. Because mind control victims often apparently display symptoms of obsessive compulsive disorder. And. And this is a result, a direct result from prolonged trauma abuse. And. And this is obviously the case with Eric Harris and. And well I believe he was potentially raped at Plattsburgh Air Force Base as well as far as the military base with the subterranean bunkers, I think it was 18 levels because that's where the mind control experimentation of behavior behavioral modification research was was conducted on Eric. And the claim was he was sexually molested there as a part of his programming.

Top Lobster (70:03)

So really quick because as you were mentioning the name of this, this drug, it rang a bell during like for me during 2020 when things were going down and we're looking for I don't know cures or preventatives against Covet.

David Lee Corbo (70:18)

Are you depressed because the world shut down?

Top Lobster (70:20)

No, but Fluvoxamine was being. It was one of those things alongside of Ivermectin and Wow man. Like I don't know vitamin A, you know. You know like the whole lineup of things that were possibly going to treat Covid. But it was recommended for to. To reduce the need for hospitalization in high risk outpatients during the early COVID 19 breakout likely due to its inflammatory effects. So it's like interesting that that is also.

David Lee Corbo (70:47)

It's because you take it and you go I don't think I need to.

Austin (70:49)

Go to the hospital.

Top Lobster (70:50)

I just feel kind of depressed. I don't know. I mean maybe it does it. Maybe it has like this weird multi use thing. But I. It's not surprising that there's. There would be a propaganda effort that would try to get this in. In you in some other way.

Austin (71:03)

Yeah, yeah. That makes a lot of you can get.

David Lee Corbo (71:06)

I think that's part of the public self diagnosing. I've got that. Let me go to my doctor and then tell them that I'm a good, good fit for.

Top Lobster (71:15)

There were a number of drugs. There was one for lupus patients. I forget the name of this drug but they were saying to take this for like you know, preventatives for COVID 19. And I remember asking my aunt who had lupus and she was like this drug is not good for me. And I'm just like I don't know what to do.

David Lee Corbo (71:33)

I think it's kind of clever though because you get a population, you know, some percentage of them is distrustful of the government what if you can convince those people who already have a natural disposition to not trust authority? What if you could just remove them from the equation by getting them all self sedated?

Austin (71:48)

Exactly. Easy.

David Lee Corbo (71:50)

Yeah, clever.

Austin (71:51)

It feels too accurate in my opinion. I think mind control drugs are, are absolutely, you know, being, I think, presented to the public as a viable solution as far as, from this strange. And, and, and I think too, what's the term when, when you're just far too comfortable and, and as far as just the relationship you, you essentially cultivate with your, your physician or your medical doctor, I think more often now these days, psychiatrist. Right. I mean it just so, so much of that. And, and it seems like the delicate sensibility of the general public is at an all time low. Right. And I think that's also been conditioned into us and, and we're very vulnerable, emotionally speaking, as far as just waiting and primed and ready to react. And I think that is what I always tried to distance myself from is the knee jerk reactionary mentality and mindset because that's where you find yourself trapped and unable to objectively pursue the truth. Truth. That's, that's the ultimate mistake you can make huge.

David Lee Corbo (73:00)

People, people get upset when they, when they hear that. It's like you almost lose. There's a game that's happening and you almost lose if you react right away. And that doesn't mean don't react at all, but it means like, because people will say that like, oh, are you supposed to like not do it? And it's like, no, no. Just know that there is a thing that is designed. It's asking you to partake, take one way or another and it's giving you the options from the jump. So let's say, you know, we, we were talking about this whole Minneapolis shooting thing. The camps there are very obvious. It wants you to react. If you have right leaning sensibilities, there's your cat camp. If you have left leaning sensibilities, there's your camp. I also think that there are, they've, they've smartened up and they've realized that conspiracy theorists are another camp and they're actually treating them like a third political party. And so they're incorporated, incorporating your choice as a conspiracy theorist into the thing that they give you lately. And I think, for example, we don't have to go down this rabbit hole. I just want to use that as an example. The alien thing, the UAP phenomenon is offered up for the critical thinker. And, and so I will say in that way, not to grant sort of superpower level intellect to this system that's pitted against us. I'm not trying to do that, that it's fallible, we could overcome it. I'm not saying some black pill shit here, but I am saying they've gotten to the point where they're incorporating it now. They've probably been incorporating it for a while. So you know that that whole Covid thing is maybe a good example of that. It's like you either have the left leaning ideology or the right leaning ideology. But should you have watched an episode of Conspiracy Theorists with Jesse Ventura in 2009, you might think that this thing was coming down the path. Death. And so we've got something for your. You too. You're going to avoid the, the experts. And so we'll just give you other experts and they'll tell you what to do, you know, to, to supersede these systems that are being put in place. And then you'll end up self diagnosing and doing SSRIs.

Top Lobster (74:58)

This has like biblical reference as well. Something I was reading recently in First Samuel. It's not the first iterance of this, but it is interesting when you look at it. Samuel was the prophet and at the time Israel was run by the prophets, basically like they were the judges rather than a king. His sons were in the temple and they became corrupt, which I guess happens. And the people saw that and, and they're given the situation or they're given a, a predicament in which they have, they feel like they have to choose. So they go, we want a king. And Samuel goes to God and he says they want a king. They've rejected you. And he goes, all right, let them know. These are the consciousness consequences. Their daughters will be concubines, maid servants. Their sons will be on the front lines of his army and slaves. And he goes back and he tells them and they go, yeah, yeah, we want that though. Like they're, they're, they're pushed in a way and I don't know what was going on with his sons and the corruption that was going on, but it's, it's very similar and, and the people have a choice now and it's probably this weird left right dynamic, but we've got to make a choice. We got to move because they're up against time and they're up against, against what's happening. And I get it. So they choose. And you, you know, it's, it's almost futility at this point. Like we're, we're we're always up. It's either like, action or inaction. And I'm a fan of action. I don't particularly like inaction, but there is no good choice, if that makes any sense. Is that like a black pill notion?

David Lee Corbo (76:25)

I don't think that's a black pill, because the Bible, it's like we're dealing with the world. And what does the Bible say about the world? And I think if you look at that, there's a lot of guidance in that how to. How to deal with the world. You know, we're strangers in a foreign land, passing through. Okay.

Top Lobster (76:39)

But the reality is we're in it.

David Lee Corbo (76:40)

No.

Austin (76:40)

Yeah.

David Lee Corbo (76:41)

Which is why it's like, over and over again.

Top Lobster (76:43)

Gotta choose.

David Lee Corbo (76:44)

Well, not just that. Pretty clever.

Top Lobster (76:47)

Yeah.

Austin (76:47)

Yeah.

Top Lobster (76:47)

That's the job.

David Lee Corbo (76:48)

Boxing us into a corner.

Austin (76:50)

Yeah.

Top Lobster (76:50)

And I. We can continually have to choose. Like, I voted for Trump last time. But hey, man, thanks. You got me. We gotta, like, who am I choosing?

David Lee Corbo (76:59)

Right?

Top Lobster (77:00)

What were my choices here?

David Lee Corbo (77:01)

Well, it's not over because they're doing the Trust the plan, they're doing the QAnon, so technically, very fun.

Austin (77:07)

Yeah, it's very fun. Honestly, I think it's so interesting because I think it was the. My episode 24. I think it was the agenda 21. Right. Is. Is what I was basically discussing and the. The concept of. Of the Confessions of an Economic Hitman. And. And I basically realized that throughout that process, much of what they rely on is this. This Delphi Method, which is allegedly an appeal to authority. Right. And. And that's really. I mean, it seems like the Delphi Method or. Or the technique which was developed by the Rand Corporation post war. Right. Post World War II in the 1950s, the same time they're. They're creating the. And implementing the foundation of the Monarch Project. And, and these more sinister sub projects of MK Ultra involving human honeypots and child prostitutes. And. And that's when Claudia Mullen was tasked with. Right. And the other girl were tasked with effectively compromising Frank Church during the committee hearings, which is, you know, when you realize that a human honeypot child prostitute was sent by Alan Dulles and Sidney Gottlieb to compromise the individual who's legitimately in charge of transparency to the public. As far as the. That's the guy to go after, man. Yeah, that's the guy to go after. But my God, they're. They're training up these children on these remote Deer Creek cabin black sites and things on how to sexually pleasure their priority targets. And. And then also how to draw information from them as pillow talk in a sort of way. But then what we're doing on top.

David Lee Corbo (78:46)

Of that is turning it into really fantastic works of fiction that you get to sit home and watch and enjoy and. And then go on into the real world and associate any utterance of those elements with just works of fiction that you've seen.

Austin (79:00)

Right?

David Lee Corbo (79:01)

Yeah. I mean, yeah. Stranger Things, they do that really well in Avengers or Black Widow. Is part of this elite assassin group who's taken as children and raised up in espionage and everything.

Top Lobster (79:16)

Here's a really fun one about Stranger Things that we missed with Wes. One of the weapons that they're using against 11 and the other telepathic people are. Are these, like, large frequency weapons that are aimed at the children. And they freak out. Like, their noses bleed and they can't do.

David Lee Corbo (79:32)

But it only works on the. On the psychic kids. Right? It doesn't do that to, like, the regular kids.

Top Lobster (79:36)

Well, check this out. In the New York Post, there's an article about the invasion in Venezuela. Did you read this?

Austin (79:42)

No.

Top Lobster (79:42)

It's insane.

David Lee Corbo (79:43)

How cool is it? It's kind of cool.

Top Lobster (79:44)

Did you read that?

David Lee Corbo (79:45)

I didn't read it. I heard, like, an overview of it.

Top Lobster (79:47)

It really awesome. So it's a testimony from one of the Venezuelan guards. And he was like, basically like, we saw some drones and then we saw a couple helicopters. And it wasn't a big deal because there was like only 20 of them or something. And we were like, yeah, we got this. And all of a sudden everyone's just crippled on the floor. He's like, these dudes came in, he said, with technology or some sort of. That they've never seen before. And it sounds like they're using frequency technology, throwing up blood and bleeding from the ears. And they came in and they said it was a massacre. And he said, this could also be a propaganda piece. Again, true, but technology.

Austin (80:23)

That's Havana syndrome, man. That is literally Havana Syndrome. Right.

David Lee Corbo (80:27)

Which dialed it in, though, a little bit.

Top Lobster (80:30)

South America, because we keep doing it there. But yeah, we went in there and it's just. It's really interesting because that's what they were using.

David Lee Corbo (80:38)

Well, what did he say? Right? What was his. His parting words were like, don't talk with them. You don't understand what they have.

Austin (80:46)

Have.

David Lee Corbo (80:46)

You cannot win this fight. Like, that was basically his sentiments on the other end of it.

Top Lobster (80:50)

So it's also one of those things where it's, like, presented like this soft disclosure on a TV show.

David Lee Corbo (80:56)

And then it's like, Boom.

Top Lobster (80:57)

Then we use it two weeks later. I'm like, that's interesting what just happened here.

David Lee Corbo (80:59)

That's a great. A great observation.

Austin (81:02)

Yeah.

David Lee Corbo (81:02)

Because they apparently had it in the 90s in fictional Stranger Things. So.

Austin (81:05)

Yeah, I think they used. They used it in Waco as well. I think the. The audio and resonance warfare was. Was legitimately. There was a internal document that was an intelligence document that was a report from the kgb, right. From the Russian intelligence. And. And essentially it was because they were actually. There were all these various foreign intelligence assets that were on the ground at Waco during the final siege. And I think that was all about. It was basically a learning experience of what happens when. When we greenlight an operation such as this and how we will effectively respond in this way. And. And they gassed all those. Those people who were remaining in. In the compound with a nerve agent that made them paralyzed and so they couldn't even flee. And. And the reason they were constricted in like this. What's it called? It was basically the Jonestown effect, right? Where. What was the poison? Damn it. But either way, it. It like it twists and can contorts your spinal, you know, like as. As. As you die, right? You. You have this visceral and violent physical reaction to it. And it's very obvious, right? So when. When anyone is essentially like, the medical reports are being taken and. And things of that nature. And. And then they'll obviously be identifiable as they died of this specific poison agent, which is. Has been used so many different times in the past that they can rely on. On. On this. But anyway.

David Lee Corbo (82:38)

Well, I wanted to say this really quick before we move on, though. Ricardo Genio says. I forgot this was an element of it. They said they were getting off 300 rounds per minute. That's what it sounded like. And 20American soldiers laid waste to 200 men. 200 men. And they use frequency and somehow whatever they were shooting. 300 rounds per minute is what it sounds.

Top Lobster (82:58)

A massacre.

David Lee Corbo (82:59)

That's crazy.

Austin (83:00)

The new Naked Gun movie, right? Like, I. I watched it because. Because Sam and Brad said it was funny. Funny. So I watched it last night, right? And I just had it on super late. And it. You know, there were funny moments. It was ridiculous. But the. The strange plot, though, I. I felt was very valuable. And, and it was basically that you had this criminal organization of. Of elite billionaires who essentially wanted to create a new Eden. Okay, And. And what would they do? They would. They would greenlight the CMF technology which would essentially utilize the widespread of. Of this trigger mechanism through smartphone devices and various other, you know, electrical electronic devices that each and every one of us possess. And, and they would then cause this inherent violent reaction by triggering the most. Right. Just. What's the term? Like the, as far as just the, the, the violence kind of visceral reaction from the. Right. The human reaction would be triggered as far as like the violent capacity right of. To engage without considering the outcome in, in a sort of sense it would just trigger this neurological avenue and pathway in the brain to where you would just engage in. In complete rights and, and utter violence with, with no questions attached or, or, or yeah. Moral. Yeah. Concerns whatsoever. It just kind of, I don't know, slapped me in the face as far as how much they like to play revelation of the method and, and introduce these concepts to, to the general public through pop culture. You know, the way that Top said.

David Lee Corbo (84:43)

It was like that thing just aired, dude, that's. That season of Stranger Things just aired. And then all of a sudden we see the implementation of the very same technology on the world stage.

Top Lobster (84:52)

It's like the Mountain Dew of Netflix.

David Lee Corbo (84:55)

It's not just that we see it, we see it on for its time. The biggest event that unfolded on the world stage was US and Venezuela. And that's where you see this thing take place. And somebody in the chat, I think it was Elohim said yeah, how did they develop this tech? Imagine the countless test subjects, dude, that's, that's, you know, it's, it's almost a moot point because it's, you know, it's nothing but like black filling. But honestly, if you think about that for a second, that generations of MK Ultra operations, people stolen off the streets, you know, at one point the, the government admits to taking how Many for the MK Ultra program? 10,000 orphans. 10,000 orphans is what they admitted to taking. And, and those kids were subjected to frequency warfare no doubt to develop these, these technologies that are being implemented right now.

Austin (85:44)

So they said Eric Harris apparently endured very similar techniques of behavioral modification experimentation on, on Plattsburgh. And, and you know, just as far as finishing the point I was making about the Detective Sheriff's deputy Tim Walsh and, and the alleged sexual abuse happening to. To Eric and Dylan leading up to the event. They were placed in a juvenile diversion program right in 98 just months before they carried out the attack on, on the high school. And, and they had to pretty much not only respond and, and right as far as just, just go in and meet with their. It was sort of like a probationary period that they were under. So they had interactions with these investigators and police officers. And I just found it interesting because they break into a van like a few months prior to the. The shooting, and they get caught up with this specific sheriff's deputy, which tended to respond to every sing claim or report that. That surrounded specifically Eric Harris, which I found interesting. And, and so.

David Lee Corbo (86:52)

Yeah, or something like that.

Austin (86:54)

Felt like it. Yeah. And. And especially considering that he was potentially the individual who was the perpetrator who sexually abused them, it makes sense. I think they might have had police protection as far as facilitating the drug trafficking operation. Even the subway shop murders that happened in just a block or two blocks from Columbine, like 10 months after the shooting, it was two students who were effectively murdered who survived the shooting that day. And it was actually her sister who had been the first killed. Rachel Scott I think was her name. But either way, this girl and, and her boyfriend were shot to death in, in the subway shop, like at after 1am or something. Something around there is when their bodies were found. I think it was after midnight and it was supposedly the lights were still on and somebody drove past test and saw and went in and found the bodies. Who was a member of the staff. But what they had technically discovered through this investigation is that you had over 50 unrelated cases is what they claimed, but 50 other investigative. As far as cases within Jefferson county, the sheriff's office that were claiming that essentially the subway shop was a part of a major drug distribution operation. Operation. And that actually this is what essentially happened was, was that. So the, the first thing that I thought was, okay, this applies directly to Blackjack.

David Lee Corbo (88:18)

When you say Subway. Yeah, Subway shop. Like, like a, like a Subway.

Top Lobster (88:22)

Like a sandwich shop chain or, or just sandwiches.

Austin (88:26)

Just chain, yeah, it was the chain restaurant, but obviously you had most. Mostly students from Columbine who were operating the, the, the. The actual shop. But yeah, that does sound very familiar.

David Lee Corbo (88:39)

To, to the, the pizza shop.

Austin (88:41)

Exactly. And so if there's no way around it that they're not limiting this, this kind of the strategic nature of the playbook to one operational. Yeah, yeah.

David Lee Corbo (88:54)

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Right. If it works, just keep doing it. Yeah, keep going to the well.

Austin (88:59)

And that's why I think they were like, like legitimately blowing up dry ice bombs in the bathroom at Blackjack and stuff like that. And it's crazy. They were. They even would. All these members of the tcm, the Trench Coat Mafia, would meet at Blackjack and then they would go out.

David Lee Corbo (89:16)

I'm Sorry to interrupt. I just remembered that Jared from some way gets popped for child, you know, pornography or whatever. Just like, do you think at some point they let him in on the whole thing? Like we're going to use your sandwich shop cop to. To traffic not only, you know, probably meth and other things, but children, humans. And then is it any coincidence that he, the mascot, gets popped for. For, you know, pedophilic content or whatever? I don't know when, what context. I don't know if he assaulted anybody. I never really looked at that case too much, but it seemed like.

Austin (89:49)

I don't know.

Top Lobster (89:50)

I don't know if there was like hard evidence. It just seemed like a guy that they wanted to. Like what they did to the Papa John guy.

David Lee Corbo (89:56)

You know what, you know what you do?

Top Lobster (89:57)

I don't know.

David Lee Corbo (89:57)

Well, you know what it does do? The same way when you type in.

Top Lobster (90:01)

Disney, Frozen blurs the lines.

David Lee Corbo (90:03)

Now when you type in Subway Child anything, you're just gonna get. Jared, you're not gonna get that the shop was ever wrapped up in some nefarious trafficking 100.

Austin (90:15)

Yeah. And honestly, the mounting, the mounting death toll of. Of not only Columbine students who would enjoy inevitably be, I believe, snuffed out as far as. Just as. As kind of loose ends. But you had members of their families, right? Like you had parents who were strangely found murdered. One of them actually went into the pot, went into a pawn shop and she, she basically purchased a weapon and then proceeded to shoot herself and at the counter in front of the pawn shop owner. And then.

David Lee Corbo (90:49)

Yeah, they don't sell you loaded weapons. You have ammunition in your pockets and loaded the magazine. Every. Every pawn shop I've ever been to. They're all armed.

Austin (90:58)

Exactly.

David Lee Corbo (90:58)

Would let you. There's cameras everywhere.

Top Lobster (91:00)

They.

David Lee Corbo (91:00)

They put you down before you ever got a chance to sink around into a magazine.

Top Lobster (91:05)

You know, might not be looking because you're. You're just so used to.

David Lee Corbo (91:09)

I mean, that's all you need, I guess, is like one, one bullet in your pocket and then you can kind of fish it into the magazine and, and. But man, I don't know.

Top Lobster (91:17)

The whole thing depends on the gun. I mean, if it's a revolver, you just put it in, spin it and bang. That's it. Right?

Austin (91:23)

I'm telling you, it's. It's. Honestly, yeah, that was the biggest question as far as trying to figure out how she even went about doing this. Like, did the pawn shop owner provide her with the, with the bullets or did she actually bring the bullets in herself and, and had this premeditated, you know, plan. But yeah, if you look it up, there's a New York Post article that directly references this. Columbine High School Victim's mom kills herself. This was October 23rd, 1999. So the money. The mother of a teenager paralyzed in the Columbine High School massacre walked into a pawn shop, asked to see a handgun and blew her brains out. Yesterday, Carla June Hochalter, a 48 year old elementary school teacher. So I'm interested to know which elementary school because there was an elementary school in Columbine where most of the students and survivors were sent to after when all of the chaos was, was unfolding. And, and so yeah, you have just six months after the event takes place and her 17 year old daughter is paralyzed, she commits suicide. And just it becomes stranger too when.

David Lee Corbo (92:34)

You start thinking about who doesn't own a gun but has ammunition if it.

Austin (92:39)

Was she loaded the gun. It says that. All that it says in the paperwork is that the clerk turned around to fill out the paperwork. Ms. Hulkalter loaded the gun and fired one round that hit the wall and a second bullet into her head.

David Lee Corbo (92:54)

What, so she had two bullets in her pocket that she managed to, I mean, look for somebody who doesn't own a gun gun to be able to successfully load the magazine of a pistol, if it is, you know, a semi auto automatic pistol is, it's not an easy task necessarily. You know, you could probably fumble it around a little bit before you. So she gets both of them in cleanly before anybody notices that she's doing this. She's a school teacher. It doesn't seem like she would have a history of being sneaky. I mean, you know, if and name anybody that's going to do that, you'd look pretty conspicuous. And when you're dealing with firearms, usually, you know, they give a shit a little bit more. If you're just buying a Sawzall or something from a pawn shop, you know, maybe there's not going to be too many eyes on you. You're purchasing a firearm, you have the firearm in your hand. I imagine that some of these people are going to be looking at you if you don't own one. It suggests you don't have a lot of experience loading rounds into a magazine. You would have had to have known to buy if you had 9 millimeter rounds in your pocket to buy a 9 millimeter. You know, there's a little bit of. It's a strange thing for somebody, it's a woman, it's an elementary school teacher. She doesn't own a gun.

Top Lobster (93:58)

Hold on a second. I'm sorry. This article that I just pulled up here. I don't know if I'm burying the lead for you here, Austin, but somebody. All right, so the mother, the daughter of the. Of the person who committed suicide. This is. This is who I thought we were looking at. Her name is Anne Marie Hockholter. She just died this. In 20, 25. Life.

Austin (94:22)

Yeah. Yeah.

Top Lobster (94:23)

I'm sorry. Go ahead.

Austin (94:23)

No, no, you're good.

David Lee Corbo (94:25)

Is it the daughter of the lady that did it?

Top Lobster (94:26)

Yeah, I pulled up an article, and I'm like, I'm confused. What are they talking about? She lived till 2025. Yeah, go ahead, Austin. Take it.

Austin (94:34)

I just. I. I think that, honestly, it's. It's fascinating as far as the. The level of death surrounding Columbine in general and. And especially following Columbine. But. But yeah, yeah, she. So she's she's basically fully paralyzed for the most part, but then she inevitably dies recently. And as far as I'm concerned, it's. It's a strange, you know, form of. I think it was sepsis, right?

Top Lobster (95:03)

Complicated sepsis due to this, like the bullets, that she took it during Columbine.

David Lee Corbo (95:08)

What?

Austin (95:08)

Yeah, during Columbine, which. How do you die of sepsis? 26 years, right?

Top Lobster (95:14)

Yeah.

Austin (95:15)

Apart from the actual.

Top Lobster (95:16)

The coroner ruled it a death due to. A death due to homicide linked to the attack 26 years ago.

David Lee Corbo (95:27)

That's weird.

Austin (95:29)

Damn.

Top Lobster (95:29)

That's called long, Covid.

Austin (95:31)

Yeah.

David Lee Corbo (95:32)

That's crazy, bro.

Austin (95:34)

It's too much. Damn.

Top Lobster (95:35)

Long. Long Columbine.

Austin (95:38)

Amen. They call it the Columbine effect, right? And it definitely seems like it's a long standing. And I feel like just after, like, focusing on all the different loopholes and. And obvious rabbit holes and threads that are connected to Columbine specifically, man, I. I felt like I suffered from my own personal Columbine effect almost. You know, it was. It was interesting just because.

David Lee Corbo (96:01)

What a weird time for you to be researching this, right? As soon as she, you know, know.

Austin (96:05)

Damn, dude, I'm telling you, that happens. It's like when I did the. The Pete Skate episode. And then Edgar Madison Welch gets murdered by. In a routine traffic stop, and he wasn't even driving by. By the officer. I'm like, how did this happen? Right?

David Lee Corbo (96:20)

But that's a weird thing too, because it doesn't feel like it's a tying up of loose ends 25, 26 years later. You would think if she had anything to say you know, she would have said it. And you weren't in any danger of like, the official narrative getting screwed with. It feels more like like a looshing or something like that. Like to add to the body count of Columbine, to rule it a homicide from the Columbine shooting.

Top Lobster (96:43)

You know, kind of like some sort of numbers that keep getting inflated every year.

David Lee Corbo (96:47)

That's what it is. It's like, we gotta get these numbers up, dude. Not enough people are traumatized about this event. Maybe one more will do it. That is nuts. That's nuts. Well, look, Austin, I. I don't know if this is an appropriate segue. If you want. If you have more to say on the topic, feel free, but I, I do want this because we're talking about the subway shop and, and I'm looking at some of the. The notes here, and I would feel terrible if we didn't get to the Pizzagate Turning Point connections. Is it, Is it a fair time to segue or do you have more on that?

Austin (97:18)

I mean, we. We totally can. Because honestly, I. I could. Yeah.

David Lee Corbo (97:22)

If.

Austin (97:22)

If we legitimately wanted to go through every last detail of. Of what. What I discovered throughout the combine re Columbine research investigation. Yeah, exactly. It would. I could probably spend six hours straight talking about this case. You know, and it does seem like just as far as I. I do think it's interesting that, you know, you had these Arapahoe County Sheriff's officers and, and these, these various Jefferson county deputies who. Who were apparently, you know, involved as patrolman in the Littleton Police Department and, and had essentially, at one point point. Ron Anya, the child victims advocate who claimed that Eric Harris was sexually assaulted, talks about how essentially, Sheriff Sullivan from Arapahoe county served as sheriff from 84 to 2002 and was very highly respected until he was arrested for trading meth for sex in 2011. And I thought, ding, ding, ding, there we go, baby. You know, we get another window. And too. Were you potentially involved with the methamphetamine distribution process throughout the little 10 area at this time that directly coincided with that of, you know, the blackjack pizza restaurant and the subway shop murders that, that obviously centered around that of Columbine as well. It's hard to just. It's hard to separate these things and, and dude, they're doing meth.

David Lee Corbo (98:48)

They're. They're possessed by demons and they're doing ritual sex magic, and they're doing it in a way that is inducing trauma on children to create disassociative states to then create programmable personalities that emerge or, you know, any. Any number of things. It's the same every time.

Austin (99:09)

Exactly. And I think just the connection to the bloodletting ceremonies of the specific chapter of the Trench Coat Mafia that Eric Harris was and Dylan Klebold were partying with at these house parties leading up to the. The shooting happening. And now I think that was a direct geographical hub and avenue for procuring potential child victims on behalf of the network as assets. They could. They could essentially, you know, at any point in time, isolate which. You know, isolate and identify which individual individuals would be of most right in terms of value for the operation that I think Columbine really became. And I think that's why there were a couple teams of shooters. And I think that, you know, the actual. If you look at, you know, the SWAT team that were legitimately. They're. They're shooting up the school after the killers are allegedly dead, and they're still shooting blindly into the cafeteria when you have. Have children and students who are still survivors hiding underneath the tables. And so. And then also you have multiple parents claiming and going on the record suing specific individuals of the police department. You have one officer who responded to the scene, one of the first on the scene, who told the parents specifically of Daniel Rohrbaugh, that they actually saw one of his fellow officers shoot him in cold blood when he was running out, fleeing from the shooting out of the school. He. He flees and he runs out to the sidewalk and gets shot down in cold blood. And they later on change the official narrative to match what. What the. What they wanted in terms of where his body was found, which they claim was that actually at the bottom of the staircase leading up to the exit. That's not true. And it's just.

David Lee Corbo (101:00)

This is the thing that. That drives me nuts because. Because obviously, there's always layers of narrative for the normies, for the left, for the right, for the conspiracy theorists, but the ones for the normies and the ones for the left and the right, which is redundant, are so damaging because you're having arguments about Second Amendment rights, you're having arguments about a mental health crisis, you're having arguments about SSRIs, which is almost kind of close, right? And then if you look into the cultural impact of it, you're having arguments between black crime statistics and why do white kids shoot up so many schools? I mean, and it's like, dude, you're arguing about the wrong.

Top Lobster (101:45)

If we're looking at, like, the current Christian Christianity, Christian model of national Christianity, we're arguing about how we're going to punish those people for being victims to this. So it's like, like that's, none of this dude is addressing what's actually happening.

Austin (102:01)

Yeah, right.

Top Lobster (102:02)

The workings underneath. I, and I think they have some spirit, spiritual tendrils to them, but that's.

David Lee Corbo (102:07)

Like massive spiritual tendrils. I mean, what are we dealing with? We're dealing with kids that are, you know, on the surface they're shooting up schools. Looks real bad. You dig A little bit. They're victims of, of meth induced rape. And, and when you look at who's doing it. Connections to military intelligence.

Top Lobster (102:26)

Guy with crazy eyebrows. Yeah, yeah.

David Lee Corbo (102:28)

Right. It's like, okay, so there's forces sexually ritually assaulting these children while on meth and possessed by entities.

Austin (102:38)

Yep.

David Lee Corbo (102:39)

What the. And you, dude, you can't even have that. The school shooting thing is a really excellent psyop in that if you even try to have that conversation with a normie, that's too far gone. And we want to talk about aliens.

Top Lobster (102:53)

On a pile of dick. Dead kids.

David Lee Corbo (102:55)

Yeah.

Top Lobster (102:55)

Can't have that conversation.

David Lee Corbo (102:56)

You can't have that conversation on a pile of dead kids.

Top Lobster (102:58)

I've tried.

Austin (103:01)

It's, it's legitimately the third rail and I think that's by design in a way. And, and they want you to feel the taboo nature of, of, you know, just possessing the willingness to discuss these high impact events, specifically the, the events that affect children in this sinister way. But, you know, know, let alone the, the notion that obviously I, I, I believe that we have this strange formula that's been very well sophisticated. And I think whenever you see, not only do you have this fascinating unique brand of programming that applies directly to some of these more valuable assets. I think it's the understanding of the behavioral modification programs that I think was the main thing I wanted to at least mention. As far as Eric Harris. Right. Because I do think that it's far more likely that he was the individual who was most successfully conditioned and programmed and set and into place in the position for this very purpose. And then kind of brought Dylan into him is how it's described. And Dylan basically started to reflect much of the characteristics that Eric, Eric possessed. But it felt as if Eric was almost tasked with with providing some, you know, secondary perpetrator that, that would then fall into place as a suggestible and vulnerable. Right. The psychology that they could manipulate into essentially just following suit. Because this is the reason why I believe you have essentially just as far as when, when you look at Dylan. Like he legitimately, he wrote this strange portion in his journal, his personal diary. And it felt like I was reading the writings of someone who's suffering from dissociative identity disorder. Like that is legitimately what it felt like. And like a Catcher in the Rye, it really did. It felt like this is some kind of mind control manual. And, and at certain points it feels like he's maybe even waking up to his programming at a certain, in a certain way. But he talks about hypnotism at one point, which I thought was fascinating, obviously, because not only do you have, you know, the indications of, of Eric Harris being legitimately exposed and, and you know, programmed and conditioned through sexual trauma and things of that nature, I think it's also very interesting that clearly you, you have Dylan Klebold providing us with a window into the psychology of, of just kind of that he possessed leading up to the shooting. And that in itself was really shocking, right, because again, we have Eric Harris's glowing family background, right. Involved with military intelligence. And, and then you also have that strange crossroads that we cover, covered in the previous episode on, on 911 and Columbine, which is just fascinating. And then you also have Dylan being a part of the CHIPS program. Right, which is just, just absolutely crazy as far as realizing this is a gifted program in a way. Right. And, and that it seemed as if this was just once again another window into how they legitimately will isolate and identify. Right. Just legitimate, possible and potential assets moving forward in this clandestine way. But the strange dissociative journal entry came with obviously his personal diaries, which they read like a textbook manifestation of essentially the way that I described it in my episode I wrote it was the textbook manifestation of unrepentant evil incarnate, embodying pure maleficent malevolence without remorse or the desire for redemption. And that is legitimately what it seems like they, they exposed through the pages of their journals and diary entries. But one of, of Dylan's, basically, when I was reading through it, it does seem like he was possessing a dissociative psychological state of mind while composing the text. And so it's on page five where he wrote May 7, 1997. He titled the journal entry as my thoughts. And he said, yo, what's up? Hehehe. Know what's weird? Everyone knows everyone, I swear, like I'm an outcast and everyone is conspiring against me. Check it. This isn't good, but I need to write. So here, within the known limits of time, within the conceived boundaries of space. The average human thinks these are the settings of existence. Yet the ponderer, the outcast, the believer helps out the human. Think not of two dimensions, says the ponderer, but of three. As your world is conceived of three dimensions, so is mine. While you explore the immediate physical boundaries of your body, you see in your three dimensions L, W and H. Yet I, who is more mentally open to anything, see my three dimensions, my realm of thought. Time, space and thought. Thought is the most powerful thing that exists. Anything conceivable can be produced. Anything and everything is possible, even in your physical world. After this so called lecture, the common man feels confused, empty and unaware. Yet those are the best emotions of a ponderer. The real difference is a true ponderer will explore these emotions and what caused them. Them. Another. A dream. Miles and miles of never ending grass. Like a wheat, a farm, sunshine. A happy feeling in the mo. In the presence. Absolutely nothing wrong. Nothing ever is contrary. 180 degrees to normal life. No awareness, just pure bliss. Unexplainable bliss. The only challenges are no challenge. And then sketch of a wall.

David Lee Corbo (109:08)

Wall.

Austin (109:08)

Bam. Realization sets in. The world is the greatest punishment. Life, Hypnosis place. It is a sky with one large cloud. And sort of a cloud made chair. The sun is at the end of the chair. 10 o' clock up into the sky below. I sometimes see mist and the green, great green earth. Sorta a city. Yet I hear nothing thing. I relax on this chair actually like a. Like a chase. And I am talking to what? I don't know. It's just there. I have the feeling that I know him, even though I consciously don't. And we talk like we are the same person. Like he's my soul. And I just thought, look. It's strange, right? Obviously very, very unique. And as far as reading through the. The journal. But he goes into a sketch of a thought box and he says the everlasting contrast. And I thought you would appreciate this. Dark, Light. God, Lucifer, Heaven, Hell. Good. Bad. Yes, the everlasting contrast. Since existence has known, the fight between good and evil has continued. Obviously this fight can never end. Good things turn bad. Bad things become good. The people on the earth see it as a battle they can win. Morons. If people looked at history, they would see what happens. I think. I think too much. I understand. I am God compared to some of these unexistible brainless zombies. Yet the actions of them interest me. Right. Like a kid with a new toy. Another contrast. More of a paradox actually. Like the advanced go for the undeveloped realm. While some of the morons become everything dwellers. But exceptions to every rule. And this is a big exception. Most never change. They never decide to live in the everything frame of mind. So he could just be. You know, I. I felt like the. The hypnosis place was almost out of context. It was so strange reading through this. And. And I did feel like if you're. Because the notion is you potentially as you're waking up from your programming, you. You dream, you have nightmares of. Of recovered memories. And. And so these memories that you're recovering are essentially memories of your programming. And so various layers will be removed as far as trigger mechanisms in place for your handlers to activate. Debate. And. And that's interesting to me. So I just think that if. If you consider the notion that. Obviously I believe that. That Eric Harris was legitimately abused and sexually traumatized. Right. But. Yeah, but you combine that with the Plattsburgh mind control techniques that I think he. He endured. It was basically platsper. It's so strange because it became. It's. It now is a civilian airport and an industrial complex basically. And it's. It's operated by the Plattsburgh Air Base Development Authority. So Plattsburgh Air Force Base had a significant underground facility often returned referred to as the mole hole. And it was designed to house crews on alert as far as alert duty for intercontinental ballistic missiles operations during the Cold War. So you have this facility including multiple levels. Part of a. The base is strategic defense infrastructure is what they claimed. And so basically beneath the Plattsburgh base is this vast 18 level deep subterranean facility. And Eric Harris, whose father had been linked to covert Air Force intelligence projects going back nearly 20 years. Right. Right. He lived with his family, Eric and. And Wayne at the Air Force base for over four years. Right. Before moving to Littleton, Colorado. So it had been confirmed that the Plattsburgh base was long used and as a location for severe scientifically very advanced mind consciousness manipulation technologies. And. And obviously these clandestine projects from many different sources, including victims even. Right. Who claim that they endured this. This brand of programming at the base specifically. And even individual whistle whistleblowers who were employed as project operators on base. And so some. Some of the reports even claim to link the 1960s, apparently one of the key MK Ultra operatives who helped export the many the Montreal experiments. Right. The MK Ultra exported to Canada essentially. Right. And. And that was Dr. Ewan Cameron who. Who created the. He's the sinister mind behind the infamous psychic driving technique. Right. Which is. And he was also the president of the American Psychiatric association yeah, yeah.

David Lee Corbo (114:24)

I can't. Like, dude, I. I'll never look at. Especially after our. Our early episodes on this. Because. Episode. So episode one in particular, then your other appearances on the show. I cannot look at the mental health professionals as anything other than basically a cloak. Yeah. Because right now they're. They're under a guise. The mask that they're wearing is mental health professionals. But when you find out, like, when they started to become a thing and. And what it was all associated, I look at them more as just.

Austin (114:54)

Just.

David Lee Corbo (114:56)

What would you call them? People that separate things. Like, if you have a production line, it's like, green goes into here, red goes into here.

Top Lobster (115:02)

They should be wearing, like a hair net as they separate people.

David Lee Corbo (115:05)

Exactly. People into viable, you know, pawns for some sort of psychological warfare. That's it.

Austin (115:11)

That's.

David Lee Corbo (115:11)

That's what their job is.

Top Lobster (115:12)

Are you. Are you saying. I'm sorry, was this guy treated in this. In this dumb base? The underground base?

Austin (115:20)

Yeah. Oh, okay.

Top Lobster (115:23)

Well, he was there. You have evidence linking him to. To be being there.

Austin (115:28)

Okay, exactly. Yeah. And. And by the way, I think it's important to know that. That obviously he was described as a typical kid. Right. There's a interesting article that I wrote about, or not wrote, but read about. It's called plattsburgh recalls a typical kid. And it was from the Burlington Free Press, April 23, 1999, and it was just after the shooting. So they were basically covering the background of Eric, and they were trying to provide some. Some kind of starting point in a way. And. And basically, Eric lived on the u. S. Air force base in Plattsburgh, New York, near the Canadian border between 93 and 96. So by the way, Plattsburgh shut down in 94. So very interesting that he's still living on the military base with his father for two additional years before he goes.

David Lee Corbo (116:19)

When you. When you're operating there, you can go under the guise of.

Top Lobster (116:22)

It's like a black.

David Lee Corbo (116:23)

It's already been shut down. It's. There's. Nothing is happening here. It's inactive. It's like.

Austin (116:26)

Yeah, exactly. And that's what they claim.

Top Lobster (116:29)

I want to mention before you. You continue. Is that like. So you're describing Eric's journal and I guess his. I don't know what you call it. His. His trip into the supernatural, the astral. What he's describing. He's describing what sounds like. What sounds like the hill at first. So it's like. It's crazy when they're put into these. These situations or when they're put into these conditions, they actually do see the spiritual. But he's convinced of this other side.

David Lee Corbo (116:58)

Yeah.

Top Lobster (116:59)

Where he, he eventually like towards the end of that journal entry he folds into like I am God. A lot of you know, he's, he's black pilling. He's saying there's really no way out of this. In a sense he's kind of, that's.

David Lee Corbo (117:09)

It, it's the, it's the ultimate gnostic processes and thing. This is the problem with having no wisdom but getting exposed to information, the truth.

Top Lobster (117:17)

Like you see, I, I firmly believe that he did see all this stuff on the other side of this veil where. And he's telling people, he's like yo, you guys don't even know what we're dealing with.

David Lee Corbo (117:27)

And that's the right there. These idiots, they don't even know I'm the one. X, Y and Z. That's the big slope of, of being a conspiracy theorist. We all fall victim to that sometimes. Like look at these, these sheep, they don't know. And then where do you end up? It's either I am God or God is evil.

Top Lobster (117:41)

Well that, that leaves you open to the, I guess the deception of like falling off that cliff. Because now I'm the one privy to this information, therefore I know, therefore I'm God. And then once you're kind of there, they can play with you however they want. So I'm watching this, I'm watching them go down that rabbit hole. It's just fascinating. I guess people would read that and just say oh these are, this guy's delusional, right? I don't think he's delusional. I think think he's experiencing something real and he's just giving you a great example of what he's seen.

Austin (118:09)

I agree. And I think that the self deification. Right. And this superior intellect of some kind is, is built into occultism in a way in this new age ideology which I saw that in the Temple of Set with Michael Aquino as the founder who, who leaves the, you know, has a falling out with Anton lavey after being. Being a key prominent member in the Church of Satan. And then you know, this is all. Well he's, he's head of the PSYOP war doctrine, you know, psychological warfare operational doctrine that they're implementing. I think in this post war modern gladio sort of context. But the point being is that you know, what did he train and condition into the Setian members? Right in, in the Temple of Set it was, they talked about, about the divine Black. Black flame and the self deification process of the individual and how essentially you would become your own God in the context of the Temple of Set and becoming a Setian worshiper and, and understanding this, this higher intellect which they called the black flame, which was deep within you, but you had to be able to essentially acknowledge it, identify it, and then self deify in your own right and follow this strange occult path to, to immortality in a way which really does fall in. Fall perfectly in place with that of the modern mass shooter. And, and how often they seem to reflect on these Nordic belief systems as well, that seem to. To very much present this. You are almost immortalized through the action of committing mass violence in this way. And therefore you will live on in this. And, and also I, I believe it's almost a sense of you, you gain prisoners and, and followers for the afterlife. It's almost in the vein of, of some of the Islamic interpretations of things, obviously, as far as this strange. Yeah. Procurement of, of slaves in the afterlife, which it does look as if, if they were seeking a form of immortality through the, the level of violence that they're obviously engaging in. But my dog's freaking out. I'm gonna have to let her out. Can I do that actually? Okay. Sorry guys.

David Lee Corbo (120:28)

Yeah, I want to kick around some, some stuff with top right now. Anyway, so this idea of the black flame is parallel or, or synonymous maybe is a better way to say, because they do converge with the divine feminine, the God goddess.

Top Lobster (120:42)

Interesting. How so?

David Lee Corbo (120:43)

Well, so here we go. It has to do with obviously like the, the dark. All right, so it signifies potential before form, power before expression. Womb, fire rather than hearth fire. I never know how to pronounce that. And across these different ancient systems, the feminine principle governs darkness, gestation, the unseen things of that nature.

Top Lobster (121:10)

Yeah, chaos.

David Lee Corbo (121:11)

So you have Hekate, which is a torch bearer. Her flame is not solar, it's chthonic. I don't know what that means, but it's. She a goddess of the underworld.

Top Lobster (121:23)

Right.

David Lee Corbo (121:23)

Then you have Isis, who has resurrection power hidden in darkness. The underworld. So travels through black fire in the underworld before rebirth is what the sun does in Egypt. And she is, is, you know, Isis's. What is it? Resurrective power. Okay, I see how it is. So Isis represents resurrective power hidden in darkness. The sun travels through the underworld through black fire. So that's the way in which they're associated with Kali, which is interesting. Where the hell do we see Kali recently?

Top Lobster (121:56)

Kali is coming from Stranger Things as well.

David Lee Corbo (121:59)

Yes. Yes, that's right. Blackness. Right. Destruction and liberation. Fire of dissolution that returns the creation to source force. So all of these female entities have an association with some sort of fire that is representative of the underworld or destruction. And in that way, the black flame is. Seems to be the same energy as what people are, you know, claiming the divine feminine is.

Top Lobster (122:27)

Interesting.

David Lee Corbo (122:27)

So that is because I was wondering, you know, why I was looking at an image today of maybe I could pull it up here. I just thought it was weird that she was depicted this way. But there's this image from Anderson Cooper's mother. A childhood photo. Let me bring it up real quick.

Top Lobster (122:48)

The kids in the pool.

David Lee Corbo (122:49)

No, not that one image in a new tab. So here, let's.

Austin (122:52)

Anderson on the screen. Vanderbilt. Isn't that the. The one you're talking about?

David Lee Corbo (122:58)

Perhaps.

Austin (122:59)

Perhaps.

David Lee Corbo (122:59)

Hold on, wait.

Top Lobster (123:00)

And again. Sodomy having something to do with this.

David Lee Corbo (123:04)

That's crazy.

Top Lobster (123:05)

Willingly.

Austin (123:05)

Perhaps.

David Lee Corbo (123:06)

Okay, so it says, remember when Anderson Cooper released these pictures from his childhood and him and his mom are sitting under the depiction of Jesus being burned in a sacrifice to Moloch. But I was.

Austin (123:15)

Dude, I never saw this, brother.

David Lee Corbo (123:17)

Yes.

Top Lobster (123:20)

His bed.

David Lee Corbo (123:20)

That's not Moloch. That's the Divine feminine. Nothing about that is Moloch. Look at it. It's. It's a like some sort of pale inverted image of. Of Mary. It's much more similar to the. What is it something. Danter.

Top Lobster (123:36)

Elizante. Dancer.

David Lee Corbo (123:37)

Yeah, that. That P. Diddy has tattooed on his back. You. So you have these angels flanking on either side. Jesus is on an altar. It looks to be shrouded in flames. So it's some sort of sacrifice. And who is it sacrificing to but some female entity, pale of face, sort of representing like Mother Mary, only like three times the size of both Jesus and the angels.

Top Lobster (124:00)

Yeah, the Queen of Heaven.

David Lee Corbo (124:01)

Yeah. So I think that there's, there's, There is some connection here. I was thinking about the black flame just in. In regards to how she's all shrouded in black and then there's flames on the altar. But I think these things are connected. This black flame and this divine feminine. I think are.

Austin (124:15)

Are.

David Lee Corbo (124:15)

There's an overlap there, but so. So go ahead and pick up where you left off, Austin.

Austin (124:19)

Yeah, I just. Man, when. Whenever you. You look into it, it's basically Sethins believe that Set is the one real God and that he has aided humanity by giving them a questioning intellect. The, quote, black flame which distinguishes them from other animal species. Set is held in high esteem As a teacher whose example is to be emulated, but he is not worshiped as a deity. So that is where the individualism plays into the self deification and utilizing black magic. Magic which he claimed was a term. Michael Aquino claimed that black magic. Because Sethins describe the practice of black magic openly.

Top Lobster (125:02)

Right.

Austin (125:02)

And, and he claims that the term he, he defined as idiosyncratically, which I thought was interesting. This guy is clearly he's talking about how the temple promotes the idea that practitioners should seek self deification and thus attain an immortality of consciousness. So that just plays into right this occult connotation in the context of, of how they really empower the minds of really as far as the more evil centric. As far as what they're attempting to evoke from the, the personal individual. Right is, is essentially highlights and, and obviously, you know, I think it's a level of obviously they, they are somewhat conditioning themselves to embrace this strange self deification process which I do find to be, you know, honestly, the. It's a ruse, right? It's, it's basically this process of denying God, right? Of denying your mortality as well, which you know, I think is a gift from God. Right. That should be, you know, considered as precious. And, and, and in every way we should attempt to obviously reflect on how special this time is in, in terms of just not knowing exactly what will happen at the end of this as far as just, you know, you can have, have whatever uh, uh, conclusion and concept of the afterlife you want. But uh, the bottom line is we don't know what it'll look like. At the very least, it's like, you know what I mean? Mean? It's, it's. Nothing is set in stone and, and sure enough to be relied upon as far as a direct expectation, you know, other than hopefully there is a heaven and hell sort of thing. Right. It's beyond that I think in terms of, of just what they are emboldening the occult member to effectively be willing to push forward, which is this destruction.

David Lee Corbo (127:01)

It. Crowley did the same thing in the Lemma. You know, it's sort of like do what thou wilt, be your own God. But there was also this idea of the re. No, not the refining fire. There was this. The initiating fire, the. The and which was like. I guess you could look at it as a, a way of saying like enlightened to kind of hidden information. In that way the flame represents an enlightenment, but it's like it's the same all the time. It's. It's like the Prometheus thing. Right. I mean, that's how it's often framed. Whenever you're bringing hidden knowledge to mankind, it's usually depicted as a flame, as a fire, and then that always leads to anything but God either.

Top Lobster (127:46)

Right.

David Lee Corbo (127:47)

We've been talking about self deification or you know, worshiping some other, other fallen entity like the one that brought you the flame or whatever. But yeah, that's a constant theme in all of this.

Austin (127:58)

Right. And I think I started my episode on this with a quote from Bill, Bill Cooper's Behold a Pale Horse, obviously. And I think that, you know, I try to discern for myself how, how trustworthy one Bill Cooper is. And, and obviously it's, it's a discernment process in terms of all of these, assessing the credibility of all of these, these sources. Right. And, and, but I will say it does seem like the, the false disclosure aspect of providing someone with misinformation or disinformation in order to, and coming from a source that you deem is reliable enough to go out there and parrot that information. And then therefore you find yourself in this. Yeah. Unfortunate circumstance where you, your credibility has been damaged and there, therefore you're now questionable in terms of your trustworthy from here on out and, and forever. People will point to that example as well. I don't know. Bill Cooper said this or that. Right. And, and you know, maybe I, I, I don't know. Maybe it's the over. I don't know. Oh geez, I just hurt myself. I'm sorry. It freaked me out. But anyway. No, no, you're good. But yeah, so basically the point being is I, I saw him, him talking about. It was basically the, directly after Columbine he did a reactionary video and he's so emotional, man. Like, it felt authentic though. It felt like a genuine reaction. The guide like was brought to tears, you know, just from the level of, of what he viewed to be government intervention and, and obviously responsibility for this happening. And, and I, I find that, I found it to be interesting because he mentioned something to do with, with these ancient sex rights. Right. And, and how essentially, yeah, this, this was potentially utilized in a way.

Top Lobster (129:48)

Here we go.

Austin (129:49)

I put it on a note way back in the day when I first listened to it like years ago because basically he was talking about how, you know, I, and it made me feel like he was acting in good faith at a certain level is the point I'm kind of trying to make. But I felt like he had good intentions. Mentions at the very least with this video that he had made. And, and he talks about the rights of Ishtar Molech and human sacrifice in the springtime and that these events are conveniently scheduled for the spring in order for this. This strange new age esoteric rebirth of. Of the Phoenix rising from the ashes in this new dystopian framework. And that's essentially what they're trying to. Trying to do, right, which is. Is manufacture consent for landmark gun legislation to potentially cause an overreaction from the public to provide a solution for a problem that was created by the entity that, that clearly assumes power and resides in the background behind the curtain. And, and there. And so here we are again trying to, you know, basically identify who the power brokers are and who the police political puppets are and, and which one matters most, right? Which I think is. Is the crux of our problems. But I will say that it was, I think chapter 12 of Behold a Pill Horse, which I just loved it. And I felt like I should put that quote in as the introduction to set the theme and set the stage for the entire episode because I talked about how Dr. Robert Duncan, who, who essentially, you know, was. Was briefed by the head of the Los Angeles FBI rights at a certain point and worked with a consortium of scientists and then discovered that after interviewing thousands of alleged candidates of mention of mind control, they claimed there was a modern Manchurian Candidate program, right? And they utilized these EMF frequencies and things of that nature, you know, to effectively greenlight these assets after their programming is. Is complete. But the point being is what did he claim it was? In order to manufacture consent for landmark gun legislation to properly to have. To essentially manufacture their consent for the American public to disarm themselves, which is the ultimate goal. And so clearly that that was almost reinforced and it resonated in terms of the direct overlap to what Bill Cooper claimed in. In his chapter 1212 of. Of the 1991 book. And he says for many years the secret government has been encouraging the manufacture and importation of military grade firearms for criminal use. This is intended to foster a feeling of insecurity which would lead the American people to voluntarily disarm themselves by passing laws against firearms. By using drugs and hypnosis on mental patients in a process called Orion, the CIA inculcated the desire in these people to open fire on schoolyards and thus inflame the anti gun lobby. This plan is well underway and so far is working to perfection. And I just felt like nothing was more accurate. And then also it reminded me of the artichoke documents of the special Outline of the special age cases that I had read regarding. It was like this 1953 document from January 7th. 7th. And they talk about hypnotism in all these cases and how they could trigger them with a phone call. And. And at one point, they go into SI&H experimentation. This was on September 25th of 1953 in the Artichoke documents. And H experimentation was another one from 1954 in February. But they discussed the creation of hypnotized subjects who responded triggers and who are willing to shoot people when they ordinarily wouldn't. It's just. How many times. Excuse me, can we have this essentially reinforced? Right. At a level that's impossible to deny. Right.

David Lee Corbo (133:55)

You remember when I had that argument with that on Facebook, and it was like he was. He was trying to say that MK Ultra wasn't real. No, it wasn't a homeless guy. It was just some dude that kind of looked like a homeless guy.

Austin (134:05)

Yeah.

David Lee Corbo (134:05)

All right. But he was telling me, like, oh, mk, I'm, like, on Facebook, of all places, saying, like, you know, I forgot what the event was, but you're falling for these division tactics, and you have this culture war that you're engaging in when really this is an orchestrated thing by military intelligence and the fruits of operations.

Top Lobster (134:23)

Like, yeah, but you tell, like, we spoke about him. Like, you're talking to somebody who has already been chewed up and spit out by this system. They're already a complete victim. And the worst part part is they don't even know that they've been victimized by it. They're pointing everywhere else. So it's like, yeah, you're pointing out the overall. The overarching psyop of the. The theme of what's happening. And they're inside of it just being.

David Lee Corbo (134:46)

Telling you it doesn't exist. You're standing in the middle of it, telling me it doesn't exist because you're in the eye of a. Of a hurricane, and you're telling me the hurricane doesn't exist because it's not happening right where you are. It's happening all around you.

Top Lobster (134:56)

It's already. It's already destroyed your life.

Austin (134:58)

Life.

Top Lobster (134:59)

And you're kind of throwing a rope to the guy and he's slapping his side. I'm like, yeah, that's when I hear this fascinating.

David Lee Corbo (135:04)

I'm like, wow, look at how over and over again Austin comes on the show and he goes, hey, look at this program that took place decades and decades ago. And look at the way that the exact plot of it repeats.

Top Lobster (135:15)

Look at how they admit crimes. Yeah, yeah.

David Lee Corbo (135:19)

You can't even look at this and, and call it anything other but the fruits of that operation. It's, it's exactly what we're dealing with right now and we've been dealing with and I don't want to sound like the nihilist dude in the, in the, you know, the testimony that we were reading only moments ago, but these idiots don't realize that they're being subjected to nothing more than an intelligence operation. And I don't even know. I mean, you know, I don't think the truth is ever really a burden, but it is, in this instance, frustrating.

Austin (135:50)

Frustrating.

David Lee Corbo (135:51)

It's frustrating to see it in what, what appears to be 2020 vision. It's crystal clear this is exactly playing out the way that they intended it to play it out or to play out, and it just doesn't matter because there are, are people that are gonna simply never ever see it, no matter what you show them, no matter what combination of words you use. That's a little bit frustrating sometimes to think about because that guy was, you know, somebody I went to school with, somebody that grew up with. And I'm like, you know, you look at people and you kind of give them the benefit of the doubt based off of how your mind works. And I'm like, surely if I just say something compelling and show a person the things that I've seen, they'll come to the same conclusion. That actually is not true. To see the exact same set of that you've been subjected to.

Top Lobster (136:36)

Well, it's also, it's probably programmed within the programming. When the programming is revealed to respond in a, you know, in a harsh manner. Some maybe even.

Austin (136:46)

Yeah, yeah, they legitimately do have. It does feel like one nation or honestly one world under mind control in a way. But, but at the same time, I think, you know, that obviously the knee jerk emotional reaction is conditioned into the vast majority, whether you know, they've endured a level of programming or not. I mean, that is, is essentially one of the just, I think most valuable widespread uses of these techniques has that it's been effectively entrenched systematically in a way to where it's just plaguing society at large. And I think even like a private Discord server or something, which I've seen so many of these modern mass shooters or individuals obviously are in these strange private discoveries, Discord groups and servers where they're leading up to the event where I, I was just imagining if you can legitimately activate Manchurian through EMF or Something to this effect or, or even through, you know, subliminal messaging, right?

David Lee Corbo (137:52)

Throw up blood.

Top Lobster (137:53)

Yeah.

Austin (137:56)

Dude, I saw one of my buddies, uh, Namrock, who's like a, a meme creator reader, right? Yeah, he's great. I saw him, I saw him tweet or post a meme following the Stranger Things finale and he's like, hey, just so you guys know, it was always about gay aliens.

David Lee Corbo (138:16)

Hell yeah.

Austin (138:17)

That's perfect.

David Lee Corbo (138:18)

Yeah, dude, it is. You know, I don't want to, I guess, you know, give the devil is due. That is an expression, right? I don't know that I made that one up.

Top Lobster (138:26)

Up.

David Lee Corbo (138:28)

But they have gleamed quite a bit. Or gleaned.

Top Lobster (138:32)

No, you're good. You just make it. That's fine.

David Lee Corbo (138:35)

They've learned quite a bit from kidnapping thousands of orphans, from dosing John's at houses, you know, subjecting people to traumatic media and peeling their eyes open, Clockwork Orange style. They've learned a lot about how we work. And they have hijacked our nature magnificently.

Austin (139:00)

Oh yeah, that was what?

David Lee Corbo (139:03)

Go ahead.

Austin (139:04)

Sorry. I was just thinking that, you know, my attempt to essentially when I was trying to present the Paul Banasi concept of the video that I was, I was speaking on, it's just interesting to me because it caused me to legitimately reflect back on and question the very concept of free will and how much we legitimately can rely on our ability to possess this free will and, and, and, and when and where and what circumstances is, is required to rob you of that God given ability to, of discernment. And, and just as far as I'm concerned, this is how they destroy. Right. Any kind of defense mechanism that you should have, have properly in place to, to reject this, this kind of unique brand of, of conditioning. But again, it's, it's. We're talking firsthand eyewitness accounts of the, what allegedly happened at Plattsburgh. And the reason that I wanted to bring it up is because it, it ties in so directly to these techniques we're discussing. And that is that apparently on the base through basically there was a level of operation even on the surface obviously. And that was, that was even after it had closed right. In 1994. And that's kind of what they were getting at is basically not only was Dr. Ewan Cameron allegedly tied into Plattsburgh and, and the exportation of MK Ultra to the Montreal experiments, he created the psychic driving technique which Sirhan Sirhan is alleged to have been a primary and key example and candidates of, of that specific, specific brand and technique of programming. And allegedly there were individual patients who would go to seek treatment from just, just the regular psychiatric follow up for, for some kind of depression that you're experiencing. Right. And for example, one woman sought out his, his uh, uh, this is basically his medical guidance. And, and essentially what happened is that, that she was just suffering from basic depression. Right? And, and essentially because she had no stable background or, or legitimate protectors in place that were going to follow up on her whereabouts and well being, she was placed in constraints and held against her will in, in this medical setting through Dr. Cameron Human Cameron's uh, you know, uh, legitimate. I mean he, he's the one who gave the order to essentially go through, through this, with this process and, and then through the level of, of psychological basically behavioral modification, he successfully broke down this subject's mind to a level to where she was legitimately apparently under the age of 7 years old psychologically and that she even believed. And many of the patients that he worked with, with, apparently they forgot the identity and, and of their parents and they even began to believe their interrogators and, and, and the scientists and medical operatives were their parents. And so if you're able to actually break a subject's mind down to such, I mean an absurd level then by the way she had to spend years of her life after this experience and trauma redeveloping an adult personality. That's how affected she was.

David Lee Corbo (142:32)

That sounds exactly like 11. Who calls the dude papa?

Top Lobster (142:37)

Well, there's, there's like more occult tie ins with Stephen King and his, his magnum opus. Yeah, he does, but he knows some stuff. Yeah, his magnum opus which would be the Dark Tower. And one of the recurring themes in is when the main character Roland and has come up upon something that is daunting or something that he needs to be brave or like a, a pivotal moment in, in the arc. He always like repeats a mantra to himself like you know, I shoot with my gun, I, I aim with my gun, but I kill with my heart. And then he tells himself and I never really dawned on me until now, but it's important. Remember the face of your father.

David Lee Corbo (143:16)

Yeah.

Top Lobster (143:17)

And it's something that I think about often too. It's like, like, like as an artist I'm like can I even draw my father's face? Like if I had to close my eyes and pick it out of a lineup. Or is it just his.

Austin (143:27)

That's interesting.

Top Lobster (143:28)

His like I don't know, the notion of him that I understand like when he's there, I, I don't even really know what he looks like. But it's like remembering the face of your father is pivotal if we're going to understand where we are in this world, what's going on around us. And you know that I guess that could even extrapolate to like, like what is your father? Is your father God also just your father in general? Like, we need to have that anchor point, but when that's removed, you can see how things like spiral and go completely nuts.

David Lee Corbo (143:56)

But fundamental thing.

Top Lobster (143:58)

Yeah, Austin, I want to, I want to put a bow on this now because I feel like we've done a really good job at like at, at pinpoint at putting this thing down and really pointing at what we're talking about here. And obviously we're going to have you back on again to, to discuss more stuff within this realm because it just never stops. Can you just tell the people really quickly where they can find you, where you'll be next and what you're going to be doing, bro, for sure, brother.

Austin (144:25)

And, and you guys know how much I love and respect you and I just, you know, as always, I can't thank you enough for these opportunities because it means the world to me. But yeah, just the, the ability to have these conversations to make man, it legitimately gives me hope, you know, and, and that's where the black pill falls to the side because I legitimately am inspired by these conversations, man. And, and the willingness for, for people especially your audience as well, not not only just the two of you, but yeah, that that open mindedness is, is. It has to be be a part of your, your psychology or man, you will just be led by the nose into doing the devil's bidding essentially is how I, I view it. And Paradise Lost, John Milton's book, right? Man, he. So essentially it was, it was referenced in the, the forward to Michael Aquino's paper which developed into the Mind War doctrine. Veteran. Right? And by the way, it was Paul Valeli who, who was an advisory council member on the board of Turning Point USA as early as 2018, who co authored this book From Psyop to Mind War, the Psychology of Victory, with that of Michael Aquino, the prolific pedophile Satanist. And it turns out that obviously when they discuss Paradise, Paradise Lost in the forward, they quote obviously John Milton's work. And they. He says the mind is its own place and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven. And I just thought, man, for them to actually put that in the forward of the psychological warfare doctrine, that is the Mind War it's just, it should, should definitely justifiably incite a moral panic. Let's just say that. Right? And, and I think that when, when you realize and you read through and I would encourage everyone to do so and I promise I'm wrapping up and I'll plug in like five seconds. But I, I did think that it's worthwhile in going through because you can see this and spot it in real time and there's no more ignoring the pattern recognition in place that's, that's so clearly and blatantly in your face. And, and so the mind war focuses on, on emerging and anticipating process problems. This is the language they use. Situations and conditions affecting the information environment, I. E. Not only to manage the perceptions of groups and individuals, but to address the conditions and situations that fuel discontent and drive instability. Mind war provides the capability to resolve problems before they begin utilizing 21st century, scientifically valid, empirically based methodologies. Mind war is the equivalent of a mental preemptive strike. That's what they say in the actual book itself, right? So they could just say it out.

David Lee Corbo (147:29)

Loud, as loud as they can, and it just doesn't matter. For some people you can just say stuff.

Austin (147:34)

And, and, and the only other thing is that we had mentioned this heretical form of Christian nationalism in a way which I think is a misrepresentation in their attempt to hijack. Right. Any sort of well intentioned and, and you know, individual who, who, who clearly means well and wants the best in terms of, has the best interest for the, the global society at heart. Right. Truly, but inevitably is just a little bit too vulnerable and naive to not fall into these, these, these preordained traps. And, and that's what, what I'm concerned with is that they will essentially usher in this new age dystopian antichrist system on the back of these, these well intentioned believers that unfortunately fall into a manufactured false prophecy in a way. But I'm not at all saying that, you know, denying a prophecy, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that wouldn't you imagine that evil entities on earth would attempt to, you know, misdirect the, the inevitable interpretation and conclusion in terms of the philosophy of your belief system in general, let alone the end result of what you're actually inevitably worshiping at the end of the day. Right? And, and I think that's where you have to ask what God are you referencing, my friend? You know, because I think most people say they'll, they'll, you know, reference God in All these strange, you know, know, manipulative ways to package this information to, for broad appeal. But in reality it's, it's a, a kind of poison pill. Right? And I think that, yeah, be careful.

Top Lobster (149:15)

Yeah, be careful for sure. But like I think a white pill in that is that. So we, we notice they're not, they're not doing this with Islam or Judaism or Buddhism. It's, it's going to come from Christianity because I mean that's like the main, there's the main religion within America. So we know that look out for that. We also know that it's probably going to come from right wing American Christianity because left wing rejects that. So like they're too far gone. So look at that. That's a good indicator of when things are really about to hit the fan. Where I feel like we're close now, but there could be another iteration of this, of left and then back to the right again. I don't know how crazy things will get. But, but in the end, I think we do know this is going to come from some form of Christianity and some form of right wing nationalism and it's going to mix together. It'll be some, we'll call it the Beast system as they do in Revelation. So we know at least we know what to look for. We know we're like pointing in the correct direction.

Austin (150:12)

I call it. I'm sorry, go ahead, Top. I'm not trying to disrupt. I, I called it the esoteric ideological system, system of control and basically the New Age form. So the New Age esoteric ideological system of control, that's what I view as their legitimate goal of implementing this New Age philosophy into the minds of the general public, wherever they fall on the spectrum. And, and I think the, the only thing that I felt like was, was worthwhile in that context is as far as in, in the mind Mind War reference points, they legitimately talk about transcranial magnetic stimulation, magnetic reconnection portals, atmospheric ionization, hypnotism, magic, and what's called the phenomenon of religion in the context of something called internal religious psyop and the Army Chaplain Corps, which all seem to play a vital and prominent role in the, in this mind war. And, and it all comes apparently after a second section devoted to magic and what they call a spoonful of sugar. Right? And, and then they, they basically introduce the campaign which starts with paramilitary operations under the guise of intelligence, emotion, arousing violence, false flags and the degradation of the individual.

Top Lobster (151:30)

We're, we're right there.

David Lee Corbo (151:32)

They do such a great job of explaining their side so much better than we do. Yeah, honestly, they just really nail it when it comes to just.

Top Lobster (151:38)

Well, they wrote the book.

David Lee Corbo (151:39)

I know.

Austin (151:41)

Really in the way that really what I try and rely on, though.

Top Lobster (151:44)

And I'll tell everybody where they can find you. Sorry, brother.

Austin (151:47)

No, you're good, man. I just. I try and rely on them hanging themselves with their own noose and thank God for that. Right? Because we. We are provided with that brief glimpse into this underworld and. And you know, I'm forever grateful for. For, man, just the. The, you know, innate kind of, you know, just. It's a part of my nature in. In a certain sense to, to reject authority and. And I'm very grateful and I feel blessed for that in a way, having that internally within me to rely upon. But yeah, everybody check out the Underclass podcast. Definitely. If you have the means to support me. The Patreon's the best place. Think the lowest level is $3, uh, a month, I believe. And, and you'll at the very least get access to whatever this is, which is my paywall content with Brad Binkley and Sam Tripley. So it's been a hell of a time and, and man, again, I love you guys and, and let me know what, what the dates are so I can actually get a ticket and stuff.

David Lee Corbo (152:52)

And yeah, I'm going. I'm actually going after this show to go call a couple of places. So right now we're looking at the 6 and the 7 7th of March.

Austin (153:00)

Okay. Awesome, dude. Yeah.

Top Lobster (153:02)

Hang out after the show. Until next time, guys. Don't forget to obey, submit and comply. See you later.

Austin (153:25)

Is there for.

David Lee Corbo (153:50)

When the last trumpet sound.