
Is the modern UFO disclosure movement preparing the world for something much bigger? In this episode of Nephilim Death Squad, David Lee Corbo and Top Lobsta sit down with historian, archaeologist, and researcher Dr. Heather Lynn to unpack the...
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Dr. Heather Lynn
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David Lee Corbo
Death Spot. Level them. Despot. Despot. Despot. Death Spot. Welcome back ladies and gentlemen to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad. I am David Lee Corbo, AKA the Raven that is Top Lobsa, the father of disinformation. What's up guys? Before we get into today's guest, a little reminder. If you want to Support our work, patreon.com forward/nephilimdesquad is the place to do it. You're gonna get early access to episodes, ad free listening experiences, access to private communities of dangerous retards and discount codes off of merchandise from Toplopsa.com where not only will you find all of our merchandise, but you'll also find tickets for Bohemian Grove. The general admission tickets are on sale for August 8th in Wildwood, Florida. Come be a part of the fun. It's comedy, conspiracy and Christianity. Probably an unhealthy dose of comedy. If you want your tickets, they are currently available on toplopsa.com Joining us today is Dr. Heather Lynn who was recently recommended by our audience after her last appearance because she wrote a wonderful article on disclosure as it's happening right now on her sub stack and I'm very excited to talk to her about all this. But before we even get into that, let's remind everybody where they can find your work and what it is you do. Dr. Heather Lynn.
Dr. Heather Lynn
You can find me on Substack, but if you go to my website, www.doctorheatherlyn.com it's-r heather L-Y-N-N.com you can get to me through that. And yeah, so what I do is I look at the. As it says here, the occult architecture beneath modern power. I'm a historian, arch former professor. So, you know, just kind of out there exposing, if you will, some of the different things that are going on that are sometimes not looked at. Out of all the noise. I. In my. For funsies, I like to say I'm a mystery school dropout and uncontrolled opposition, because I get that a lot since I have some insider info. After being on History's Ancient Aliens for some years and being in the sphere of writing about, say, the Anunnaki, you know, I just decided as we talked, I think on the last episode, you know, it's time to, like, time is running out. Like, it's really time to get out there and say, here's what's going on. Let's. Let's discuss this and quit just beating around the bush, I guess, about some of these topics. I discussed that in that article that you're referencing. The idea it's a luxury belief and we can get into that. But to just sort of be able to have these discussions, which, you know, I love. I mean, that's what I've been doing for over a decade, is talking about aliens and demons and nephilim and all of this. But I've noticed some disturbing and alarming patterns that are. I think there's just no time to waste. Like, we have to get the message out and start looking at these things honestly. And so, you know, that's. That's a little who I am. I started writing on Substack to have it so that my voice could be heard a little more, like, uncensored. And my books are available on Barnes and Noble, Amazon and that sort of thing. And I write about the occult and, well, you name it, some of these weird topics. But.
David Lee Corbo
Well, I've been made more and more aware of you lately. I mean, obviously after our last conversation, but I think we heard you on Tinfoil Hat. Actually, Sam had texted me. He's got to talk to her. That's right. Yeah.
Dr. Heather Lynn
He gave me.
David Lee Corbo
Shut up, Sam. And then we didn't. Anyway, but I. I find your work really compelling and I highly recommend. If you haven't listened to the prior episode after this one, go back and listen to that because that was a great conversation. A lot of our ideas overlap, which of course makes for some fun stuff. But then you've got a lot of pieces of the puzzle that, you know, we don't have. And. And right now you said time is short. What I find is that people are becoming more and more passionate and galvanized about whatever their positions are. And the reason is, is because maybe you're right, maybe time is short. This sort of thing, this topic of aliens and, and demons, nephilim etc has become so prevalent that we're seeing this in all of the highest levels of cultural content creation. Right. So you see it. What I mean by that is you see it on Tucker Carlson show, you see it on the Joe Rogan Experience. But now you're also seeing it on the news. What's his name?
Dr. Heather Lynn
Matt?
David Lee Corbo
We were watching him on Fox News. I think it was actually like Jesse Waters. Jesse Water, Yeah. What do you think about that? That all of your fringe ideas are now Fox News?
Dr. Heather Lynn
Oh my gosh, it's. That's what led me to like, I guess start looking a little more deeply about some of the motivations behind this. At first it's fun. At first it's like, look, they're catching on. I notice Stephen, I think it was breaking points Sagar and Jetty was on and he would talk a lot about the UAP UFO thing and then Crystal would sort of give him a side eye like doing the whole thing. Like yeah, we'll talk about it. But isn't that that cute like afterward human interest story that they used to run that kind of game on us where it would be like they would tell you the news 11pm and then they would have someone come out and say and recently there have been reports of lights in the sky guy and ha ha, maybe they're here and they would like just have fun with it. But nobody took it seriously except for the people on the so called fringe. And when I started seeing that it was being taken more seriously, I thought maybe maybe it's time. I doubt it. But maybe what's going on, you know, new generation is coming into say, you know, relevancy. So maybe they're just more open to these things. Not to mention there's a great book. It's usually a textbook book for anthropology. It's not very big though. It's called Paranormal America written by a few sociologists. Highly recommend the book. It is a little older, but it's been updated as it is a textbook. And it discusses these sociologists research into going out into the field and asking individuals about their beliefs in like the paranormal. And what you find time and time again with that research and other research is that most people do carry some sort of paranormal belief. So those people who will go, aliens, you gotta be kidding me. They're like, but bigfoot's real Bigfoot. You know, you have Bigfoot that, that can't be. But you know, angels. It's like, well, that's paranormal. That's, that's supernatural, preternatural. So it just depends on where you draw the line. And a lot of it has to do with demographics and you know, it's very laid out in sociology, which of course is known by people who would like to take those, that those data and use it against you. But you know, side thing. So I looked at it like, well, maybe it's just, you know, meet more people with like independent media are coming out and there's that, but it's just not, it's simply not. It was very clear that the individuals are trotting out or a complete psyop. And not just that, but the strange thing about how time and time again it has this flashy sort of look to it like, man, this is cool. You know, like George Knapp's been around doing stuff forever and all of a sudden, you know, we, we're putting out these figures and we're having all of this like to the stars academy kind of thing and all of these people with credentials and they're real people and real scholars and they're being put out there to give credibility. And of course you could say, wow, they're whistleblowers. Yeah, but there's been whistleblowers saying a lot of whistleblowing stuff for a while and they've been ridiculed. Something else is going on. And of course in the behind the scenes thing, in my research, I had conversations with people who were involved in some of this and I realized this is getting manufactured completely and a lot of people don't want to talk about it in that sphere because it's going to eat away at their business. You know, you're on television shows with these people, you're at conferences with these people and you're looking to kind of do a thing. And I'm not going to say the word grift because I just feel like it's getting like overplayed and some people now are mistaking just boring old capitalism as grift. Like, look at that woman in her flower shop. What a grift. Like it's just getting ridiculous. Yeah, Ever there has been an industry of individuals who go to conferences and talk about UFOs and all of this. And they had been infiltrated a long time ago by the intelligence agencies and people who are interested in like co opting it. And so still then you get People who go into that and they like, they're like, okay, I want to write a book, I want to go on these conferences, etc. And they get sucked into things. And you know, that's just what people do. And I believe, because I've met them, not all of them are intentionally grifting. And it's not to be an apologist for them, it's just we have to look at this in reality because that's how we're able to then fight against it is to say, what are they doing? They're finding sometimes vulnerable people who could be manipulated into saying like, wow, your ideas are so on target. Let's have lunch with someone important. We'll fly you out to meet somebody very important. And that gives them credibility and they feel like they've been seen or discovered. And then they don't necessarily get told to say this now say that and you'll make a bunch of money. It's more like a massage. Like it's, it's this idea that once you get sucked into the system and now you have a network around you, you don't want to go against that. It's become your life. And then if you start saying something against it, it's going to get more complicated. And then of course it's like I kind of likened it to the idea that people are getting exploited and abused in that system and what are they going to do? They're going to go exploit and abuse as well. And that's the point because then. Exactly. So you have plausible deniability and so we can target individuals who again, yeah, they should be called out on their bullshit.
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Fall in love with EasyCater. Start an order@easycater.com David Wilcock, for instance. Well, actually we got our channel banned temporarily for talking about David Wilcock in a not so charitable light. And you know, he's got this fan. This fan base is very tenacious. And in fact our buddies that were on that appearance with us, or rather they appeared on our show and we had this discussion. They've actually had their channel terminated. And it's not his fan base, it's specifically Corey Good, who apparently they were going after. I don't really know. I don't pay attention to the people in the space because I think that they're kind of. Well, Corey Good specifically I think is kind of a joke. But you know when, when they mass flag you. So they did that to those guys and they flagged the episode that we had on with them, which was just, it was just comedy what we were doing. We were kind of taking the, taking the. Out of a tragic event. You know, who is like, you know, David Wilcock is a really fascinating character. And I don't think he was a bad guy. I think he was just caught up in so many, you might actually call what he did grifting. And he was caught up in so many financial disasters associated with the things that he had hoped to accomplish. We did actually. I mean it's a, it's kind of a tragedy that it's taken down because in the end it was pointing at like, hey, all of these factors actually led to this guy's demise. Yeah. But instead they're running around and saying, I don't know, it was a space program, he was one of the top scientists. And I was like in this whole thing and it's like he was the guy that got caught in this cycle of grift.
Dr. Heather Lynn
Yeah.
David Lee Corbo
Got caught in tremendous debt, in people taking advantage of them, parasitic relationships. People taking advantage of him because he was a character. He was charismatic and charming in all these different ways. And I think people really latched on to him and utilized him in, in horrific ways that left him, you know, down in the dumps and broke. But to that topic about this, you know, these people in the space, whether or not they've been co opted, I have this quote here, this is from. We don't have to bring it up, but this is Eric Weinstein on the Joe Rogan Experience. Very recently he says, quote, the government outreach to me and Sam Harris and Lex Friedman, these guys who checked out said, there's going to be a massive disclosure. We need people to disseminate these things to the public. And you have a share of the public who listens to you. And we need to get you informed so that you can help mediate the disclosure. And this does sound a lot like what we heard when it comes to the podcasters, right, and the whole Airbnb with the government officials. Now for our audience, they've already heard us give the version of events in regards to that POD pastor. You know, the pastors who got together and, you know, were, quote, debriefed on disclosure. We gave the real series of events on that. Much less sexy. It was, it was not really that cool of a thing that happened. It was, you know, some guys who maybe had a history of being in military or government became independent researchers, thought they understood, you know, that there is some connection to disclosure and this demonic deception, and then linked up with some podcasters like Tony Merkel. And then eventually Tony said, hey, I'm, I'm literally in this Airbnb for a conference that I'm doing. Can I call my friends over here and you guys come over here and we'll have a discussion about, you know, the research that you've had. So a lot less intense than government officials getting pastors together. However, this, with, with, with. What's this guy's name again? Weinstein, Sam Harris and Lex Friedman. They're literally on the Joe Rogan Experience, saying, we were approached to help mediate disclosure, which is to say, in my opinion, what I'm hearing is government approved narratives that are going to be given to guys who haven't done the research, don't really know this, this phenomenon at all, and they're going to disseminate this government approved narrative on the biggest platform in the world, which is the Joe Rogan Experience. I mean, maybe that's not the nicest take on, on, you know, what he just said here, but I struggle to see it any other way. So there has been this activation. Even if the POD pastors thing wasn't quite what it seemed. This to me is about the highest level. You have Joe Rogan Experience, the biggest show, the biggest cultural manufacturing machine on the planet. And some of the guys that he's popularized in Weinstein and, and Lex Friedman.
Dr. Heather Lynn
Right?
David Lee Corbo
I mean, we might not even know about these guys had it not been for the Joe Rogan Experience. They're now going to be returning to that gigantic platform to, to give you this government approved narrative. So very strange.
Dr. Heather Lynn
Times, yeah, for sure. And I think that's exactly the main problem. And you have a lot of this chaotic stuff going on. Like you said, a David Wilcock, who, you know, when he was younger, he got bullied and this is open knowledge. And he was a kind of guy that wanted to be liked. And when you come at something with that level of vulnerability and you get wrapped up and stuff, of course you're gonna start doing the snake oil salesman stuff. And. And so you have those figures. You also have individuals who are actually interested in topics they get, you know, in that orbit, whatever. And you have people who are straight up from intelligence that come in and co op the entire thing. And so you're looking at a big group. And not only just intelligence, too, intelligence, not just like CIA or cointelpro are the things that we may recognize, but remember, we live with like a technocracy that is in their own government essentially, and they have the money to facilitate that. So when you have a like billionaire who decides, I want to also infiltrate the narrative, they can send their own private intelligence into that mix. And of course, we can't keep saying, not that you are, but like, most of the time, most of us will say they, they, they. And it's important to also recognize that the big they is a group of individuals and groups that are like fighting against each other for supremacy. So you can have one billionaire infiltrating and a whole other one with a different idea infiltrating as well. And so it's a lot of noise and it's. I. That's why I get into the weeds on it a little bit and I try to basically sound the alarm that, hey, there is a they. But they is a lot more complicated and we need to shine a light on it and listen because even the ones that we could be against, so to speak, may be saying something very true and valuable because they're like the enemy of my enemy is my friend kind of thing. A broken clock can be right twice a day. You know that. So you got to kind of listen to all those sides and use that discernment and figure out what in the hell is going on. And the Eric Weinstein is a great example that what he was discussing because you could completely dismiss him and say, you know, well, he's one of them. He was hanging out with Epstein and when you listen to him discuss it with Joe, he's talking about this kind of like mythos, almost like he was inserting himself into that story, you know, with like this big ego or something. And so people have called that out, but what he's saying isn't untrue. And a lot of times Eric is right, like on hitting the, you know, nail on the head with what he's talking about. However, that doesn't mean that he is someone to be trusted. We should trust nobody. We should have faith in, in God and, and trust, trust our own discernment to the best of our ability. But yeah, I think that this is definitely something that is creating a lot of noise and separation by design. They want us to like when we're afraid, they want that fear over faith. So we're afraid and we're going to be ginned up and then what are we going to do? We're going to run to the corner and each of us have our own corner. And that corner is like a boxing ring where we're going to jump out and just start, you know, fighting each other. And I always say there's time for that because some fights need to be fought. However, right now we should say, hold on, hold on, let's look up and see who's trying to mastermind this fight. Because we're kind of like, I don't want to say we're like Rock em Sock em robots at this point because many of us are not, but some people kind of are. Now they're like empty and they've just adopted this narrative and they're like working on behalf of these voices and they don't even know it. They're just repeating these lines. It's a lot of noise.
David Lee Corbo
It is a lot of noise. And you're going to see a lot more people. You had Neil DeGrasse Tyson recently come up and concede, you know, in the whole alien idea and that there clearly is some deceptive thing going on that that's been obfuscated from the people for a long time. And, and he's somebody that I look at and I go, that's a guy that just loves to be in the conversation no matter what the conversation is. And you're going to see a lot more of that the more this, you know, here at the, at the Standard coffee shop where our studio is out of, we want to start having these discussions in public because I don't think that you don't have to believe what we're saying is correct, but we can show you a lot of information and at the end of the day we can say like, I don't definitively know what this phenomenon is or, or you know, what aspect of it is real, what aspect of it is, you know, an intelligence opera operation. You know, is it some sort of MK Ultra adjacent thing that's screen memories and yada yada? Or is there actually maybe, let's say a genetic component to it that is ancient and maybe adversarial that there's so many moving parts? I think it, from where I'm looking, it's not just one thing. It's. It's really messy. But we can lay that out and we can say, hey, here's the things that we've seen. You know what? It sucks to be bored. But when I get on my phone and play real casino games on spinquest.com, the time flies by. That two hour wait at the DMV seems like 10 minutes. Play your favorite slots, live blackjack, live craps with a live dealer. New players $30 coin packs are on sale for 10 bucks. Play spinquest.com and you'll never be board again. Spin Quest is a free to play social casino void where prohibited. Visit spinquest.com for more details.
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Dr. Heather Lynn
Oh, that's exactly right. They're trying to wow us with that scientific materialism. It's kind of like what they did too with the Anunnaki story in the Nephilim. It's like the Sitchin narrative is what's overlaid in the popular mindset. And that involves, you know, Flash Gordon style narratives and a lot of that nuts and bolts machinery. And while it is interesting, fine, there's something that that's covering. They're like, look over here, chase this stick. You know, and. But there's not a complete vacuum because they're used to kind of be a vacuum. And that was what was filled by the fringe who'd go to the conferences and gave rise to the likes of a David Wilcock or something like that. But that was always still in the fringe. And as you noted in the beginning, that's been amplified. That's become really big. And it's really odd that the subculture or the counterculture becomes the dominant culture. And that's part of the method that's being revealed to us. Any in the meantime, what are they doing? They're saying, okay, for now, chase the stick. But we do want that, we do want to address that metaphysical component, but we, we have to have the control over that narrative. And that's. I think what we're looking at now is who gets to have the control over the narrative. And that's something that we're seeing a lot of people discuss and organizations and events like Hereticon by with Peter Thiel and getting people together who often tend to be part of the Vatican or associated with these different movements or as you said to These like podcaster pastors that are selected, like why are they selected? And you mentioned something that Weinstein said again. And, and like another thing that I think he pointed out, I don't think it was on Rogan, I think he put it on X, but it was, why are we spending all this time and you know, talking about what the pastors are saying and informing them and getting them involved? And there's really not been a push towards getting the scientists involved. And of course he's coming at it from that scientific materialist perspective. And you could argue, well, they are getting the scientists involved. But it's something to point out that it does appear that they are now shifting toward developing a firmer narrative. Like they already got capture, institutional capture from the scientists. Now they have to control the. Maybe what you'd say would be opposition to that materialist viewpoint and say, okay, well we have to now own the dominant narrative about the metaphysical thing. What will it be? Is it going to be an Abrahamic religion? Is it going to be the New Age religion? Which is what they've been trying to for such a long time. And that's something that you see coded in the organization I talk about, which is the loosest trust and some of those theosophical organizations. But when you look at their wording, they also used Christ centered language and things that are kind of deceptive that way. And so that's a long tradition that's about 100 years, that is in the new Age movement where they've kind of co opted the words and vibe of Christianity, lured people into that and now what they're doing is they're, I think, doubling down and trying to take Christianity. If you've noticed so many people are like converting publicly. And I think what they're doing, and I don't want to be cynical about it because anybody who, you know, finds that that's the path and I can't question, I can't look into their hearts and judge them. However, I just have to point out that it's looking awfully funny that so many people are publicly doing this and maybe not even being shamed for it, you know, which is a little unusual because we just came off a whole thing where it's like, you know, how stupid are you to be a Christian? And now it's like, wow, they are converting and a lot of times to Catholicism and a lot of times to evangelical sort of Zionist, you know, modes. But it's just a little interesting to me that why are they not all converting to Judaism or You know, would you.
David Lee Corbo
I got my wheels turning a bit because it reminds me a little bit of the phenomenon of Charlie Kirk's assassination that had like this huge sweeping movement that started to funnel people into evangelical Christianity. And it, it, looking back at a, you know, a 50 foot overview here, it seems like, like, all right, so did we see a blood ritual in order to funnel people into this thing and then subvert this and push them again into their own silo? What, what do you take on that?
Dr. Heather Lynn
I say yes. I say that's exactly what it is. You know, and, and, and that's not to suggest that everybody involved did this or, you know, don't come at me in those comments with all that. It's, it's a, it's a psyop. That's what it is. A mass ritual. Ritual is something that you can engage in even unwillingly if you're there, if you're watching or you know how many people saw the terrible footage of, of Charlie getting shot like this against their will. They opened up their social media and saw something that was so like, I mean, it's like loosh just kind of coming out, right? You know, that's all they're doing is like trying to have maximum loose. And so I think that's exactly what it was, is you don't have to believe in one thing or another. You didn't even have to like Charlie Kirk. You didn't have to buy into any of the narrative. It was all that emotional like, vulnerability. And then that's where like any kind of trauma based mind control, you can jump right in and implant your views. And trauma is so overused, you know, like trauma this and trauma that. Everybody's like that. But the real definition of trauma is closer to just anything that had like happened and then fundamentally changed how you viewed the world and your surroundings. And so that's why trauma can be sort of one thing to another person. People can be more resilient. And so not to suggest that, you know, just simply viewing the Charlie Kirk thing was traumatic in the way that somebody might have been like assaulted or something, but it is literally a traumatic thing that we have gone through like a 9 11, like, you know, something that would be like a mass trauma that's a ritual because it doesn't even have to be negative necessarily. A trauma is like something that like stops your reality and shifts then how you think. And that is kind of like this catharsis. It's a ritual, it's drama, it's a play being acted out in front of you. And that's why I say all the world is a stage now. You know, obviously people die and bad things are happening, but they don't let a tragedy go to waste. It's all you utilized and leverage for these greater purposes.
David Lee Corbo
It feels like we're, we're getting funneled into the room so that we can. Because the room is where the rug is. And you can't do a rug pull if nobody's standing on it.
Dr. Heather Lynn
Right.
David Lee Corbo
They're going to do something at some point. If the room is Christianity, there's going to be a great rug pull. Probably having to do with disclosure or something like that. And since it'll involve a room full of people who maybe aren't super grounded in their faith, maybe they're not actually pursuing the Lord, maybe, maybe they're there because like I've been talking about on this Christian nationalist front, you may have been just pushing back against the left or, or the previous, you know, power structure. Interestingly enough, at, at Kirk's memorial, there's a bunch of the guys and I'm familiar with them, I enjoy their music. But the church that they come from, like Elevation, there's a couple other other large ones. They are RAF churches. So like reformed Apostolic formation churches. And they have this kind of like wishy washy Christianity that does kind of go. It leans toward this new age Gnostic flavor, if that makes any sense. And these are mega churches, so that's where they're being funneled toward. And you're talking about a rug pulls like, yo, I want you to stand on this rug. Yeah. Because what we're gonna do is we're gonna show you something that's like, yeah, it's pretty close to Christianity, right? Like it's pretty close to Jesus, but it was just misinterpreted because of man's folly. Jesus is really either a Christ consciousness or Jesus is a Pleiadian or an alien or you name it. But the rug pull maybe isn't the sense of like, haha, it's all been. It's more like, haha, it was pretty close. Isn't that cool? And then if you're some new Christian or wishy washy Christian, you might say like, oh, okay, yeah, that makes sense that we would misinterpret an alien come to Earth to aid in our salvation and you know, raise our frequency or some shit like that. But I wonder what you make of this then. What's up, baby? It's Bretzky. And I'm here to tell you that Spain. Spinquest.com is giving out free sweeps coins. All you gotta do is purchase a ten dollar coin pack and guess what? They're gonna give you the coins from a $30 coin pack that lets you play all your favorite games like Blackjack, Wanted, Dead or Wild. And we're talking real cash prizes, baby. Spin Quest.com Spin Quest is a free to play social casino void where prohibited. Visit spinquest.com for more details. And Doug, there's nowhere I wouldn't go to help someone customize and save on car insurance with Liberty Mutual. Even if it means sitting front row at a comedy show.
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David Lee Corbo
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Dr. Heather Lynn
Yeah, the bird looks out of your league.
David Lee Corbo
Anyways, get a quote@libertymutual.com or with your local agent. You know, obviously the show is called Nephilim Death Squad and, and we have a lot of ideas that would be in alignment with, you know, Heiser and this idea of like the fallen and the nephilim and, and you name it. But I also am not unwilling to admit that, like when Anna Paulina Luna gets on Joe Rogan's show and says, you got to read the book of Enoch and then all of a sudden Rogan is sitting there with Andrew Schultz recently and they're talking about like, yeah, man, well, there's like aliens and stuff like in the Bible. And I'm going like, yeah, that's pretty close to the ideas that I've been espousing. That's alarming. Do you look into that? That you can almost call it its own theology because it's been so well fleshed out. Now this idea of, you know, the, the sons of God being these Elohim that are cast down. And of course, we talked about on previous episodes how it does seem to be that you can interpret these fallen Elohim as the various pantheons that people worshiped. And they're interchangeable. Their names and their visage will change, but oftentimes their attributes or the things that they impart as far as knowledge and hidden wisdom on, you know, people of antiquity seem to be the same theme, you know, across all these generations. So there's a lot of things, information wise, this all plugs in very well. And in particular the hybridization, the mixing of, you know, the human genome with this seed of the serpent or something like that, that stays consistent for a long time. Too. Of course, in other, you know, religions or mythos is it's called the demigod or what have you. And now when you have this alien phenomenon that seems to have a hybridization program, Matt Gaetz is talking about this. It's happening underground. I think even Tim Burchett is alluding to the idea that actually seems to be the big thing that's on the horizon that will disturb a lot of people. The holy moment that some of these talking heads associated with disclosure have been alluding to, that there's something coming, really going to disturb people could well be this hybridization program. I looked at that, and I've got no problem with it. I go, yeah, yeah, they were doing that in antiquity. The. The nephilim are that. The demigods are that whatever you want to call it, this is nothing new. There's nothing new under the sun, sort of a deal. But despite how well all of this fits together and how it creates for me a pretty cohesive worldview, I go, still very strange that they're talking about it. It makes you want to do some internal house cleaning and revisit these ideas that I have in your experience. And like I said, don't. Don't worry about whatever pushback. I know the show is called Nephilim Death Squad, but I'm looking for holes in that game right now. What have you seen in regards to this? Because everybody's talking about it now.
Dr. Heather Lynn
Yeah, no, it's. It is strange that all of a sudden the Book of Enoch is, like, the thing to read. And there's also a lot of misunderstandings or misinterpretations or big claims about it that aren't true. And I started seeing that come out when Billy Carson and all of those guys were really just, like, pushing the whole Anunnaki thing. And I'm like, interesting. What are they talking about? You know, I've been on this, like, Anunnaki topic for quite a long time, and all of a sudden, he's out here with, like, very large audiences talking about very specific things, and I'm like, what is this? Who is this guy? Like, I've been in these circles for a long time, and I never really saw him come about, and it was, like, out of nowhere. And so I found that he was talking a lot about the Book of Enoch. He got a lot of things, like, kind of incorrect about his claims just on a factual matter. So I wasn't sure that he knew exactly, like, the depth of it that he was claiming. And then later, as We've seen he's been called out a lot in debates and this sort of thing, and so
David Lee Corbo
considering running for president. By the way, have you seen that? Wild.
Dr. Heather Lynn
Are you kidding me?
David Lee Corbo
You know, AI campaign. He's strongly considering running for the presidency.
Dr. Heather Lynn
I just can't. That's, like, ruined my day.
David Lee Corbo
There is no grift too large for Billy Carson.
Dr. Heather Lynn
Crazy.
David Lee Corbo
There's no greater grift than running for the presidency.
Dr. Heather Lynn
Oh, no kidding. That's. I can't even. I can't even address that. This is so bad. I just, like. Because I. I totally just, like, wrote it. I was, like, done with that, and now this. He. Well, I. I started thinking there was something going on when he was, like, having some sort of, like, car giveaway or something for, like, I understand, you know, people want to have, like, a thing, like, sign up for my newsletter and get a free PDF. Fine. You know, like, sign up for my stuff and you'll be in a drawing for. Well, this is so wild.
David Lee Corbo
That guy's really funny because this slight connection to him on the show. Early in the show's development, we were on the best political show, Luke Rakowski, and. And he does this thing, which I actually think is pretty neat. It's like you can ask a question, and the question will be asked to the next guest on the next episode, you know, on your way out. We had no idea who Billy Carson was or that he was the next guy. Oh, Nancy's actually brought up the. The presidential flyer. So what we did was we said, forever, whoever the next person was. Because our entire episode was about this.
Dr. Heather Lynn
No, I rebuke that.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah. Amen. So the whole episode on Luke Rakowski's show was about these entities throughout history seem to rebrand. That's the way that it looks to me. And so Alien Disclosure, we've been saying this since the show's inception. This was two and a half years ago. Maybe Alien Disclosure is just a rebranding. And so we left the question unknowing as to who was going to be the next guest. Why at all do alien abductions ever stop in the name of Jesus Christ? Because there's a huge percentage of them that do. And so that's actually who that question got served up to was Billy Carson. And he did not appreciate it. And he kind of, I think, just did a word salad and. And, you know, moved on from it. And it's like, look, I'm open to ideas and discussing why that phenomenon takes place at all, and I'm aware that it is not always successful because we have talked to people who personally have been abducted and can say, no, it hasn't worked for me. But the idea that it ever works is a data point that's so alarming that I can't move past it. It has to stay right in the middle of my research. And so. But please go on.
Dr. Heather Lynn
Oh, no, no, those are great points. And that is something too, that over time it became clear that he had a very anti biblical approach to things. And I mean, and that's fine. People have their own paths and they're doing whatever, but it just. To me, if your argument has to stand on just completely, you know, stomping on someone else's, then maybe your argument's not very strong. Like, just stick with what you have to say. But I don't think he had much to say other than the grift. And so, I mean, I think that's become clear. And I think most people kind of see that now, probably why he's trying to run for president. But. But something that I saw out of all of that, what I ended up calling, like Anunnaki Inc. Because again, how strange is that? Like a decade plus, like, people weren't really talking about the Anunnaki that way. And all of a sudden now it's like the Anunnaki. And there's all this, like, stuff with it where it looks like Transformers, like AI kind of videos, and it's become like a whole mythos of like sci fi. And people love it. And it's like, well, that's fun. But isn't that a distraction from the watchers? The concepts that are very much at play here, they are at play in our world right now. Like the concept of egregore. You know, I talk about this a lot because that actually, you know, means watcher. And in the occult sense, that is something that is very much key to what it is that individuals are trying to do. They're trying to, I guess, summon, create an egregore, you know, however you want to phrase it. But what you said is, I think, exactly right. There's this ancient phenomenon and there's these different words, and it just keeps getting rebranded over time. And so even now, we saw it in real time with like, UFOs, UAPs, all of this kind of wordplay.
David Lee Corbo
By the way, Hillary Clinton's the one and John Podesta. Hillary Clinton and John Podesta, of all people, were the ones. That's a crazy thing. Okay, yeah, we'll use that word.
Dr. Heather Lynn
Yeah. And, well, I mean then of course Hillary Clinton out there, the Rockefeller Ranch, you know, with all of these individuals that are kind of part of this whole old guard like the Greer and you know, I'm going to say Linda Moulton Howe too. And people don't want to talk about her. I think people look at her a little bit. Some do. But I think it's like such a heart breaking incident with her because she started off being like, I would say a very good journalist and somebody who had a lot to contribute. And then over time the, you know, it starts and I think the co opting happens. I mean anyone who sees Mirage Men, I mean go like people should go back and see that documentary. Are you familiar with that?
David Lee Corbo
I'm not familiar with Miragement is that I think I may have seen it but it was in that season of me just cramming a bunch of different UFO documentaries. Especially Amazon came out with like hundreds in a couple of years and there's. What was Miragement?
Dr. Heather Lynn
Oh, it was basically taught. It's so funny because it's like talk about hidden in plain sight. It talks about all of this. There's you know, individuals who are just talking about how they've been approached by people in intelligence and asked to like spread these topics. And I would, yeah, definitely. This is good. And how, how old is this? It's like I don't know, 2013. Yeah, so I mean. Yeah, and so I think it's really great. I would highly recommend watching it now in light like hindsight. Right, so. So someone like Linda who has admitted that people have come to her and kind of tried to get her to discuss things and now we see often she's getting caught in strange situations. Like she was caught online. Somebody, I don't remember who, but somebody had her on an interview and they were asking about this photo that she claimed came to her from of course an unnamed source. And it was this like gray alien and they had actually the, the person who was involved in this interview had gone to the trouble of locating the artist for that alien because it was from a video game and they like kind of, you know, sabotage it, whatever. But I mean asked her and it was, it's just like there's a lot of these instances where people, I think and people can be wrong and misled, that's fine. But it's a, it's the pattern of behavior when you start to see and when you see, oh yeah, she was hanging there with, you know, all these other people at the Rockefeller Ranch and she's been a stalwart in this for so long, and she's pushing these same agendas and the same narratives over and over again. And she's like untouchable. And I think the alternative has become the mainstream that people feared. And that's part of the plan. And so, but I think a lot of people don't want to call out some of these individuals because maybe at one point they were right. Like, a lot of people still are all, you know, for Greer, and it's like, okay, but whatever. And then I think with Linda, it's like, well, you know, she's female. Leave her alone. She's like a grandma. Oh, it's like, maybe feel bad for her and everything. And it's like, listen, if you're out here spitting lies and stuff, it doesn't matter what gender or age you are, you need to be called out. Like, no, let's not give anyone a free pass here.
David Lee Corbo
Balls and strikes, right? I mean, that's, that's kind of the idea. Like, what's his name? Elizondo. You know, people get on him because he's used two twice. I think he's, he's presented images of UFOs that turned out to be fakes with just a little bit of research. And, and I've seen people defend him like, well, who cares? It's like, well, what do you, you have to be discerning in all of these things. You have to stop treating individuals as if they're the number one infallible source of information in these pretty intense times when it comes to information warfare. I'm not saying you can't forgive them for screwing up. I mean, I'm sure on this show we've screwed up countless times too, and shown things that weren't true or, you know, whatever. And you know, you hold our feet to the fire for that and you go, that was. And then, then you watch these people, if they concede and they go, yeah, dude, sorry. I thought it was, it looked really convincing. I thought it was case, like, okay, cool. And you just, it, it's a case by case basis. It's the same thing. Like, forget everything you had planned for this weekend because you are sitting on
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Dr. Heather Lynn
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David Lee Corbo
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Dr. Heather Lynn
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Dr. Heather Lynn
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David Lee Corbo
Liberty. I've been talking about Tucker Carlson because we recently had Owen Benjamin, who's a friend of the show on Tucker Carlson. And people were going, oh, no, Owen's been compromised and Tucker's CIA. And I go, look, man, just look at the information. Look at the information and. And decide whether or not you've got a problem with it. Listen to the episode. If it's all good, then it's all good. If there's problems with Tucker or there's problems with Owen, you know, you talk about those things, but it's never an issue because you don't follow an individual. You don't worship or. Or, you know, what's the word? Idolize. Idolize.
Dr. Heather Lynn
Idolize, yeah.
David Lee Corbo
An individual. And if you don't do that, then there's. There's no problems here. So, yeah, you have to call out. That was my. My issue with the. The whole, you know, podcasters thing is a lot of what they were saying was in alignment with what I suspect to be the case on this show. And notice how I use suspect to be the case, because I'm not going to say I definitively know what this phenomenon is, but some of what they were talking about was this idea of, like, technology that comes from the fallen. And I would go, okay, that sounds a little bit out of control on its face. But if you look, there is a long history of individuals channeling things in order to be inspired to create technology or to have, you know, sort of groundbreaking ideas in. In philosophy or whatever the case is. You know, the muses and things. We bring this idea up all the time, so it's not really unheard of. And it's not astounding to me to explore the idea that, okay, maybe some individuals channeled some entity if. If. What the hell is his name? Carlos Santana goes in Time magazine, and nobody has a problem with him saying, my music comes from Metatron. And everybody goes, profound artists are so cool. Okay, cool. No problem. So if you go, well, the Ideas for this reverse engineered technology came from a channeling session or something like that. I'd be like, that's not at all, you know, that very consistent with the research. So even though they're saying things that I would agree with, when you start going off the deep end and say government officials called us in here to prepare our flocks, and what I will say, also to their credit, which I don't know if they deserve it or not, this happened. Tremendous timing. And then three days later, three days later, they started releasing UAP files. And I go, I mean, yeah, again, like a little peel back behind the curtain. Trump did say, we're gonna release these files really soon. These guys had this meeting in February and they decided, hey, it's a good idea to, you know, make this up now. Yes. So I guess good on them for timing. But I. On the previous episode that we did, it was me and Matt, and I was showing the audience videos of some of the more prominent figures in this conversation, meaning these podcasters. One of them is giving, like, cringy prophecies over his network that never comes to pass. He's prophesying with his. His hand on his chest and his arm stretched out to this woman who dies shortly after this prophecy. You know, in a lot of my estimations, con men, they're con men.
Dr. Heather Lynn
Oh, yeah.
David Lee Corbo
And sometimes they're going to get things right, and sometimes they're going to get things wrong. But once again, just because you're saying the same thing that I'm saying, or I suspect to be the case, doesn't mean to me I gotta hang you up right when you screw up in a very egregious way.
Dr. Heather Lynn
Yeah. And like you said, like, the thing about Tucker, too, I think that's an important one to, to point out. We see a lot of people kind of coming off the cancel this and culture war and that I. I hope that we're getting past that because it's important that we just talk to people. And also, from a Christian perspective, isn't it about forgiveness and redemption? Like, the whole thing's about redemption. And so we have, I think, not to preach at all, but just to say, I think in some way we should try to allow people the opportunity to be redeemed. That doesn't mean give them that free pass, of course, but it's just sort of that, that humility to say, like, well, who am I to judge? I've probably said some wrong things and what would I. What pathway could I have back if I did something wrong or said Something wrong. If I were to say, confess that publicly especially, and you know, really mean it and then try to correct that behavior and whatever. I mean, I don't know what more people can do. So I just hope that that is something that we see moving forward. More of that. I think it is, but I think that's part of it too is that we need to be able to move past the cancelization. And so when somebody goes on one of these shows to say like, oh, there he went, he just got sold out to in a tucker or whatever, it's like, yeah, that's, that's just dismissing. And I think it again just serves that greater cause of before. It's we're going to just eat our own. And then that's what they want because it's just a power play and they want to create this terrible, chaotic environment where we are scared. We don't know who to trust, who to look to. And unfortunately people do idolize others and they do have cults of personality and it's. And it's hard to look at ineffable gods and say, you know, there's, there's God and. But I don't see God. And you know, but that was the point of Jesus, right, was to make flesh. But some people just, they need. I think we're programmed in that way because we're primates and there's a hierarchical system. And so we're kind of in that way where we want to look for examples and role models and people to idolize or put up there. And I think that's a weakness that we have that they exploit for sure. And so it's like, well, now we just kind of cut each other down and, and I think that that's, you know, back a little bit about the disclosure thing. That's what we're all sort of doing. And I mean, I'm guilty of it too. I'm sitting here, you know, shit talking people. But it's just, it is what it is and you have to call people out and it's in order to say, you know, I would like to grab people and shake them and say, don't worry about this person. Like, who cares? What are they saying? Does it now a data point? Like, we'll take that data point. Like we have to be a little dispassionate and say, what are they saying? Okay, now what is this person saying? Where is the alignment? Is something going on? And what does that tell you? Let the data emerge. Like let it come out and show you. And it'll it'll be clear. I think that's how things are actually hidden in plain sight. People have these agendas out there and they talk about it kind of openly and they're running games on us like Game Theory, like game B. I'm here
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Dr. Heather Lynn
Hey, everyone, check out this guy and his bird. What is this? You your first date?
David Lee Corbo
Oh, no. We help people customize and save on car insurance with Liberty Mutual together. We're married. Me to a human, him to a bird.
Dr. Heather Lynn
Yeah, the bird looks out of your league.
David Lee Corbo
Anyways, get a quote@libertymutual.com or with your local agent.
Dr. Heather Lynn
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David Lee Corbo
What they're doing right now, they're introducing a lot of like, fully fledged concepts to us and seeing like what resonates, what doesn't resonate. But I think during this time, it's, it's clear we're in that way, like immersed in information warfare. And so you have to remain super objective right now because we're getting so much information that whatever percentage of it is true or good is going to fall into the hands of people that are not maybe the most earnest characters. So all you can do is just take the information as it comes and, you know, compare it up to your current worldview, see which one needs to change. Is the information not fit or does your worldview need to change in order to accommodate it? But I think that. Well, I want to ask you something about Anna Paulina Luna, because she's one of these characters that has found herself loudest in the community when it comes to disclosure. She's kind of in a lot of ways spearheading it. And I've been giving her a lot of. Because she's a stripper from Florida who found herself congresswoman who now is actively threatening the CIA, which is really wild because the CIA, you know, peeled JFK's lid back. But it's Gonna. They're gonna take outright threats. You know, I'm gonna subpoena you if you don't return the. The documents that you took from Tulsi Gabbard. And all of a sudden, Tulsi Gabbard resigns right after that. Like, that's because that's the last debacle. She was caught up in Tulsi Gabbard. She had files on MK Ultra and the JFK assassination stolen, allegedly by the CIA from her office. And then Annapolina Luna is 90 pounds, and she gets on Fox News and she threatens them outright and says, you have to return the documents that you stole. I think that that whole thing is a crock. But it's very fascinating because that's the same character that's on Joe Rogan's that's talking about the Book of Enoch. What do you. What do you make of. Of all of this? In particular, her and that sort of rhetoric that's playing out like, you know, on Fox News, on Joe Rogan's. It seems like she's meant to push the ball along in a big way, narrative wise. Would you agree?
Dr. Heather Lynn
This is wwe. This is. We are watching a controlled narrative. And it's fun. It's admittedly fun. Who doesn't want to talk about the aliens? Who doesn't want to think that there's. I mean, remember back to when they. The. During the campaign, they were putting out art that had, like, Tulsi and all of these people put on posters like they're the Avengers. Right. They're like. And it's like, it's super fun. And who doesn't get emotionally drawn to that because we want that. Well, first of all, they've been priming us with that even more, just ginning us up with this idea of, like, superheroes. Yeah, super. And I hate to be the. I'm going to sound like just a boring old Karen or something, but I'm going to say I got a real problem with superheroes. I don't have a problem with heroes, but I have a problem with superheroes, because I think that's a full Psyop superhero concept comes from two Jewish boys from where I'm at Cleveland, who. The Schusters, who developed Superman. They use the word super in place of what they were meaning because it was a better translation in their mind. But it was uber. They were inspired by Nietzsche's Ubermensch. Yes. And so this was Ubermen. And so they were trying to embody not a superhero, but just a character that was the literal Ubermensch. Based off of this sort of weird thing, right?
David Lee Corbo
And I'm not mistaken, this is a guy that's capable of self governing to the highest degree, absence of any relationship with God.
Dr. Heather Lynn
Like you no longer God is dead, we have killed him. Who are we murderers of? All murderers. Right? That's the whole thing. People will say it is. And so the question too, with the God is dead. It's so important because some people will use just that line, like it's a proclamation and they're excited about it. It's a very new atheist kind of move. But the rest of it is more of a lament that says, you know, who are we murderers of all murderers, who will be there to wipe the blood off of our hands and who will like be there to invent the sacred games and you know, all of this. So it goes on, but the very end of it asks, must we not become gods, if only to appear worthy? So it paints this image of an individual who literally kills God. Not with like wrestling or something. They're not wrestling with God. They cut him with blood, a knife. It's a ritual. It is like the last sacrifice. We sacrifice God, but there's a regret, like now what? We have no God, so we can't even atone. And so it's not a declaration that now we're going to be gods and we deserve it. It's a lament of who are we? Like, can we do this? Should we do this? It's like flirting with the idea. Oh, did that just make all of the people, like excited? Like transhumanists, like, look, we are going to become the Ubermensch. And so that's inspired people for quite a long time. And he seeded that idea. But he's asking to only appear worthy. It's a simulation. Just like when people are saying AI is going to be our new God. AI can look very much godlike, but it's, it's always a simulation. It's simulation all the way through. So the problem here is the Ubermensch is this Overman. It is exactly what you said and it is the culmination of this. Now in the original Superman, which is a really wild and cool document, you can see it's more. It's like, I think it's available on archive.org for anyone who wants to Google that. And look, it's really interesting. Superman was a character that had crazy telepathic abilities and was pretty much unstoppable. And that didn't really make for a great story because what's the point it kind of lost the hero's journey component to it. And then they had to literally go back to the drawing board because it didn't do too well. And then they were inspired by their Jewish culture and heritage and the time of where they were coming out. And they said they felt kind of bad that they were promoting these ideas of the Uber mansion. So they switched it up and then just made Superman kind of fighting Nazis and switched the whole thing up. But the problem to me is when you. When you sort of like take out the hero and replace it with the superhero, because the hero is something that comes out of the Greek. It is like where we get hero cults in a lot of ways. This is a very natural thing that humans do. We, yes, idolize a person or what have you. But the role of hero in the evolution of the thinking of humans was very important to get us to Christ. Because before that it was oppression. It was. There was no conduit. The priest class was the only way to know God or through those ways of, like, altered states, which. Who knows what's coming into that, right? So, like, you're doing drugs or having orgiastic behavior and something comes in and now that's your God. Okay, great. Then there's paganism, whatever. But the hero, when it was developed, was at least a mechanism to say, okay, there is a half God, half like a godlike person. It's a. It's godlike in the sense that it's just so powerful. But there have. There's a weakness that's fatal. And that, like, element of imperfection, it basically was like a ladder where there's a ladder to God and you could never see that you could reach that kind of ID ideal, the ideology of it. So the rungs on the ladder allowed people to look and to be better. Now, of course, that's you. That's not the end of the story. But it did give rise to a new way of humans thinking that perhaps being human is where we. We should be and could be, but we can do better. And we can't be God, but we can be something like it. We can strive to do the ideal. And then. So that's like a hero thing. There's a bit of humility to it because human humility comes from humus, the earth. We're of the soil, like dust to dust. Then you have the superhero, though, the Ubermensch, the one that's over all of that and is quite literally competing for God, like status.
David Lee Corbo
Yes,
Dr. Heather Lynn
but it's not, you know, helpful
David Lee Corbo
within all of that, that world that's been created by the, you know, this, the sort of the comic artists and the storytellers. There is so many in both the DC and the Marvel pantheon. You call them pantheons filled with demigods. Some of them men of renown. Yeah, exactly. Some of them much more openly and on their face. You have Hercules and Thor and all these guys. You know what? It sucks to be bored. But when I get on my phone and play real casino games on spinquest.com the time flies by. That two hour wait at the DMV seems like 10 minutes. Play your favorite slots, live blackjack, live preps with a live dealer. New players, $30 coin packs are on sale for 10 bucks. Play spinquest.com and you'll never be bored again. Spinquest is a free to play social casino void where prohibited. Visit spinquest.com for more details. And Doug, there's nowhere I wouldn't go to help someone customize and save on car insurance with Liberty Mutual. Even if it means sitting front row at a comedy show.
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Hey, everyone, check out this guy and his bird. What is this, your first date?
David Lee Corbo
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Dr. Heather Lynn
Yeah, the bird looks out of your league.
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David Lee Corbo
But then when you consider the. I'm going to call it worship because it is worship, right? I mean, you're covering your walls and iconography. You're. You're buying all the merch. You're never missing the movies. You're. Everything that you wear has their image on it, right? I mean, I know adult adults. Adults, you know, whose entire homes are dedicated. They've got all the funko pops, you know, that line, their entire bedroom walls and all this stuff. And it's like you're right back to the people of antiquity. I think the boys, the show, the boys actually did a fantastic job. And man, the layers of. The layers of obscurity and like social confusion that are put on top of it. It actually is a genius job of what they did was they took the. One of the main characters who is the Uberman, she's the, the Superman, the homelander. And they, they made the right wing population crash out because they modeled him like Donald Trump. And then he gets a God complex and then he starts to actually create a movement where he replaces the church and he is God and he's trying to, to do that. But it's. It's law. I think it's going to be lost on the left that views this for entertainment and, like, you know, Marvel, wow factor split his head open. And the right is angry that they're comparing him to Donald Trump. But there's something in there that really nails the story, and it's perfect for the time for right now. And I just feel like nobody's getting it. I actually didn't understand why everybody was so upset about that, because I haven't watched all of it, but I remember watching, like, the first two seasons, and I was like, yeah, he's got to die. You know what I mean? Like, that guy's got it. A Homelander was a. Was a. A terrible nightmare of a threat on humanity and had to die. And so then when he dies, everybody freaks out. That's weird, I guess, because there's some element, like you said, of. Of seeing Donald Trump in it. I didn't even. Well, I mean, I guess I recognize it, but, yeah, I just didn't see it as that shocking.
Dr. Heather Lynn
And a lot of people are going to say, like, it in that deep and, you know, like, whatever, and it sounds like. But the thing is, it's. It. It can be that deep and sometimes it is. And so, yeah, people can have fun and watch the little show and do whatever they got to do, but we. You have, like. We have to, like, admit that when you look around our society and it's become totally the idiocracy, and you have, like, I've seen. I saw some razor blades, like, some shick or whatever, they're all branded with, like, Transformers and all these characters. And I'm like, listen, if you're buying this product, you're either, like, too young to shave or you're part of the problem. Because, like, we don't need toys on everything right now. And again, it's fun. Things can be fun. I'm not even saying they can't be fun. It's just when you see it, to this. To this, like, characterization, where it's like, everyone's sitting around now. By the way, I think this is, like, completely a psyop to make men weak. That this is like, instead of being inspired by heroes, you kind of are, like, not inspired at all by superheroes because you can never be. You can't be magical and powerful. So you sit there and you idolize these, and then you sit on your couch gooning all day and, like, sweatpants and Crocs and it's like, okay, that's the problem.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
Dr. Heather Lynn
And so the media, though, it's. I think it's really important. I got to give a shout out to my friend Brandon, who has a really cool channel. He does some great work called Magus in the Media. And he's a philosopher and does a lot of neat things about the esoteric. But he does these deep dives on the role of like, kind of analyzing in the role of heroes and myths and in the media and like anime and all these stories and stuff. So I think it's important too that we recognize that it could. It's just. It's entertainment, right? But it's big budget entertainment. It's entertainment that is getting pushed out globally and has tons of money behind it and is used as social programming. So, you know, it's like, what's wrong with Superman? Not much, but nowadays it's like, a lot is wrong with this whole situation. It's a psyop and it's not ending well for any of us. And remember, it's roots. You know, a lot of this comes from some deep philosophy that you have to question that maybe, maybe the younger people wouldn't be interested in hearing about the philosophy. But you can get to them by making glamour, making it cool and fun, and then they just get lost in it. So it's like, yeah, I don't know. So that's my whole, like, anti superhero rant that everyone.
David Lee Corbo
I agree with you. I mean, you know, I'm. I'm a fan of watching those movies with my son, but I can clearly see the implications it's had. You nailed it, right? So there's. There's obviously this adult adolescence epidemic that we're being subjected to where it's like, men just aren't men. Nobody wants to grow up anymore. And I think that's a surprising. Well, I mean, the surprising part for me is like, I'm watching and I understand the messaging on underneath. And I was like, oh, that's a pretty. It actually is pretty solid. But I also understand the reason why they're buying the shick razor blades. I'm like, you're not watching this for that. You're watching this. This is. Yeah, guys, this is slop. You know, And I enjoy slop. Like the rest of us. Sit down and I say, this is slop. Delicious, delicious, delicious slop. The sloppier the better. Make it sloppy, daddy. But I never think that this isn't sloppy. But I don't ever ask for my slop to be neater. It's like, this is what it is, right?
Dr. Heather Lynn
It's becoming sigil too. Sigil magic. Because like, think of when you walk into a store and you look and you're like, you know, I gotta get some razors. I see a character on it and it's like, well, they do that. I'm not even picking on men. They do with women too. If you go into the makeup aisle and you see like all of the makeup with like all these like brand collabs and the characters like Disney princess stuff or like grown ass women, and it's like. And look, I was a bit. I love the Disney stuff when I was a kid and I had like Little Mermaid and like Beauty and the Beast stuff everywhere. Fine. And so if I walk by and I see that, I'm like, oh, look, it caught my attention because it's nostalgic and I like it, but I'm not, I'm like, yeah, that's not, that's not like. But that's the thing is it carries a payload. It's literally a sigil at this point.
David Lee Corbo
It's a Trojan horse, you know, got something wrapped up in it. And, and it was easy to see is the sort of the. For the time that it was very egregious, the leftist ideology that would be wrapped up in every piece of media that you absorb. And you can see that slop buried within it. But there are so many layers of slop. And in fact, it makes you wonder, like, is there masterminds of propaganda and agenda that are orchestrating this or is this really pushed? Like, I mean, since it's nothing new under the sun and we're seeing this, this rise, unironic paganism, people are very much just new versions of the people of antiquity. Right? When you're iconography and worshiping these, these fallen gods in so many different ways that I have to consider like, is there, is there just a spiritual agenda that is so all encompassing? And I'm not saying that it's undefeatable or that like, you know, Satan the adversary is all powerful and all knowing, but this is his world. And I don't. Am not so quick to attribute this level of sophistication to man. You know what I mean? So it's like you would need to. Because of the layers of subversive, subversive ideology and messaging inside some of these more popular pieces of media, you'd need to attribute that to like this mastermind group of propagandists that are sitting there inserting it into every layer of what you're watching. And then you know, rubbing their hands together because it's fully realized. And I go, I don't know, man. I don't know that people. People are kind of retarded, you know, And. And I don't know if we're capable of doing that. I think sometimes going back to that, handling and being inspired, you know, by something that is outside of the physical human experience, I think that's what is to. To blame sometimes, because it's just like, I mean, if you want to sit back and marvel, you know, pun intended, at. At the sophistication, like, look, they hit every subversive ideology. There's something in there that is to the detriment of every type of person who watches this. For the children, for the women, for the men, for the gays, for the trans. Like, whatever your thing is, there's something that will send you further into your downward spiral, and at the end of it, it'll leave you standing and applauding in a theater when it's over, like,
Dr. Heather Lynn
yeah, we want a part two, right? Make it a franchise. Well, you know, that's a great point, though, because. So I, like, this is probably a weird example.
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Dr. Heather Lynn
But if anyone's ever tried to, and I've not. Okay, But I know people. Well, if anyone's ever tried to, like, break a windshield, you know, it's kind of hard. I mean, it looks like it's glass, but you gotta work at it. But if you. But if you have a spark plug in your hand and you walk by and just knock it like that, that thing shatters okay, well, because it's engineered in such a way to take certain hits and other hits, not like there's a whole thing there, right. So sometimes in order to make a huge impact that reverberates and breaks an entire system, it takes one strong calculated move, not taking the whole thing. So yeah, if it to kind of have this idea that, oh, they're all working against us, everybody's in on it. It's. It's not really like accurate. It would be kind of like paranoid schizophrenia, I think, to say that. But at the same time, it doesn't take much. It takes individuals, it takes nodes, it takes getting to certain individuals to change their minds. And it will all be downstream because like, it. We're like. I made a pun, I think in one of my articles was called we are programmed to receive like from the Eagle Song. You know, like we are in a way, we have this biological tendency. We are in a social sort of hierarchy. And I think we have this embedded in us and it's one of these things where it can be used against us. So like, like when a windshield is very, very carefully calculated to bear a certain amount of weight in a vehicle, like you can go and get slammed. I used to work for a place that had me get ICAR certified. It was like an insurance thing or whatever. It was wild. But I had to take these classes and I was like always going through and saying, well, this car was totaled. Like, why is it total. It looks fine, right? Like, why is a windshield enough to make? So I learned a lot about that engineering in that little bit bit of time and saw that, yeah, you can like totally get a fender out of alignment. But if you, you know, like with precision, break something that was engineered to hold a certain amount of weight, the whole thing's trash now, right? So in a way, I think that humans have been engineered and programmed to receive a hierarchy, to receive this system. We're, we are like this somehow. We have God gene in us as they've, you know, declared. We have something. We're built to receive something. Right? But in order for it to be hacked, it just takes magicians, black magicians also, you know, people who. Now that. That term is like kind of old fashioned, but it really just is psychology, like psyche. So they're able to. All the things that people were able to do to manipulate your mind in the past was like witchcraft and esotericism, but now it's pretty much just like psychology. And, and where is that? That's in companies and businesses where they're Trying to hack you. They're trying to figure out how to take the, the system and with precision, break it in a million little pieces and totally fracture us not only against each other, but ourselves. Most importantly, we're disintegrated. We have no idea who we are. And maybe not us here, of course, but young people who are looking for their identities. They're looking and they have nothing. And so they look and they see. Well, this is a ready made brand for me. Here's like the Marvel Universe or here is this particular like political way of thinking or whatever, religion or movement or whatever. It's like if you come at it with sigils, you know, like brands, logos, color schemes, mantras, songs, taglines, whatever, it looks like a very legitimate thing. Like, I'm just inspired to be an activist for this cause. I'm going to put my little hat on and my colors and my flag or even. It doesn't even have party lines. It's all of how we've been programmed to receive. And the controllers have hijacked that biological system, that spiritual system. And so it doesn't have to be that everyone's in on it. It just has to be very powerful people whose message resonates. Which is why Eric Weinstein was talking about how they didn't run out to every little person who's like writing a book on aliens or talking about it on a news channel here or there. They went to people who they knew could magnify a message because then as we would call it clout chasing. You know, you're going to have people who do reaction videos to say like, whoever's out there talking about one thing and it just, they can put the thing in motion and kind of step back and watch it all. And so it's about doing it with precision. And that's why I try to say it's important to see those individuals. But it's also important not to get so far with the blinders on that we're missing that bigger like, picture of like who's actually spinning those, you know, tops. And so, I don't know know, I think we're programmed though for it.
David Lee Corbo
In, in the last, I don't know, 20 years, we've had some major psyops that fundamentally changed how, how we exist as human beings. So I know prior to that, I'd say like JFK kind of started to really turn America, that assassination. But then you had nine, 11 and we had Covid, and then, you know, the election of Donald Trump, Covid, Charlie Kirk, more Recently, where would you put this alien disclosure narrative on your list of operations that's being run on society? And, like, how much weight, how much weight would you put behind that? The idea of this to, like, change? Because in my opinion, I'll just be upfront here. When they just announced disclosure, when Trump said, here are the files and there's really nothing in it, I was like, this fundamentally changes everything. The way the world that my kids are growing up in is completely different than yesterday. And people don't know that yet. They don't understand that yet. But the fact that the powers that be are telling us a thing means we are moving into a fundamentally different reality in which there are a new set of beliefs, that this old set of beliefs are now dead. They're, you know, they're, they're pushed aside and we're doing something different. Do you, do you see it that way as well, or am I. Am I just being, like, fantastical here?
Dr. Heather Lynn
I think so. I think that it is that way. I think that it wouldn't have always been. I think it has the potential to be. Because it is such a giant topic, it challenges religions and it challenges science, it challenges everything. At a fundamental level, it would be, be by definition, a traumatizing experience. To actually have confirmation that alien life exists. And not only that it exists, but it's somehow been interacting with humanity. That would be a lot for a lot of people. And I think sometimes we all have the curse of knowledge in this, like, field where we can talk with each other and we talk with other people who at least have an opinion, say, well, I think they're demons. Well, maybe I think they're alien, whatever. But there is still. This is the. A big world, and there's still many, many people who would be completely destroyed at that. And. And so it's, it's not just even something that we hear and, like, say, the west or a developed country would have to grapple with. This is some element of global control that could be unveiled using this as the catalyst. And so I think that it's always had that inherent danger, we'll say to it, or risk. And I think that it's been used as, like, a. Something that they would resort to say, like, it's in their back pocket. And so then the question is, well, then why are they doing it now? And that's where, if you, if you have ever heard of, like, Von Braun's last claim to be, last words to Carol Rosin, the woman who was, like, taking care of him and, you know, his confidant, he said, remember Carol, the last card is the alien card. We are going to have to build space based weapons against aliens. And all of it is a lie that comes from Verna von Braun. So. And of course then we have an 87 Reagan saying, perhaps we need some outside universal threat to make us recognize this common bond. And so I feel like it's known, it's just kind of logical that it would be destabilizing for the entire world. And that would be very beneficial if you wanted to be the ones who created the new order from the chaos that could ensue. So it is the final card, it's the last one. So why are we hearing more about it now? I mean, there's a couple reasons here. There, you could say the grift, you could say that in my view there are ins, there are individuals inside the government itself who are like doing the whistleblowing, who actually would like to have a share of that black budget. And because of different legislation and the language in it that came about not too terribly long ago, they were able to leverage an opportunity to come together and say, okay, we're going to tell everything unless you give us some of that sweet, sweet black budget. And in discovery everything can come out. And so we'll blow the lid off all of it if you don't let us have a little bit of that. Which I think is what led to a lot of the so called whistleblowers who, like Grush and others who actually had legitimate connections but were also allowed to whistleblow to that extent, but who still were playing the game. And it's in their benefit too to I think have a transfer of that wealth during all of the chaos. So there's many things at play. But I think that aside from that, when you're starting to see more people than just the, those, those regulars, you start to see it come out in like you said, like a mainstream media kind of way, in even the, the religious component kind of thing. And it's starting to trickle down. It's like gets faster and faster, it's accelerating. I think that's because it is the last card that we're going to be dealt. Then the question is maybe not so much, well, what does this mean for humanity? It's why are they doing this? What is coming? That they want it to be like the ultimate distraction. Some people have suggested that indeed the alien threat is so real that it will unveil itself and they know it and they want to get ahead of the narrative. Okay, Maybe some people have said it's because we have an impending cataclysm and they want to find a way to explain it or, you know, do something to leverage their position so that they're able to have a breakaway civilization. And, you know, there's many different things, but I think those are the questions we need to be asking, researching and looking at, in addition to, hey, what are they? Are they aliens or demons? I think we should really start saying, why are they pulling out what they have admitted and what others have said was the last card? That is probably a lie. What is the game that they're playing and how are they stacking the deck?
David Lee Corbo
You know, it's always like, sorry, David, go ahead. Good. Because it's like, why now? And, and since we've been following a lot of this stuff, it's, I guess maybe the red heifer stuff kind of really put this on our, our radar. But, you know, Donald Trump being elected, exposing the media, all these are, are dominoes that have fallen down to expose a certain system, to move on to something new. But you have like, like you're saying we have the religious side and like, the Jewish side really kind of does bring some alarm. The red heifers alone that we've forgotten about, they have sacrifice in order to erect their temple. And whether that's true or not, they're doing that because they're seeing something. Then we have Agenda 2030, and they're doing that because they're seeing something. And, you know, Elon Musk and the elites are, are building their underground bunkers because of a polar shift or building space weapons is fascinating, too. Revelation 1:7 is, Jesus is coming on the clouds and every eye will see him. And I just think about that. I'm like, well, if you, if you had the return of Christ and everybody is battening up their hatches.
Dr. Heather Lynn
Yeah, right.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah. They know something is going to happen. But what that thing is, either they're being deceptive about it, or we just don't know. We just know a thing. It makes a lot of sense, too, for the alien thing to be the last card, because if you just look at any major world event and the opportunities that come out of it for various world governments, they never, you know, leave them alone and don't seize those opportunities. 911 begets the patriot act and a whole domino effect of the Middle east and, you know, oil and this and that, maybe even ancient relics and resurrection chambers, et cetera. But if you look at each event as a nexus from which a bunch of Potential opportunities branch out from. And you might look at those opportunities and categorize them within industries. So in other words, like if you have a 9 11, well, what does that do to the war machine? What does that do to like energy and technology? What does that do to religion? You know, some of these really big, big elements of, of, you know, that are fundamental to human existence. If you look at that and ask the same question for aliens, it's like the branches of potentiality are never ending. I mean, never ending. You know, you have a bunch of stuff that you could speculate from, like a war, like if a nuke drops, well, what does that mean for religion? What does that mean for, you know, the energy sector? What does that mean for, you know, countries and borders? Whatever the, the, the metric that you want to use to measure it, it. And some of them will be like, it doesn't seem like much will change there. But this one in, you know, independent field, like the energy sector, well, that changes dramatically. But if you're talking about the introduction of an alien, a non human intelligence and their technology, maybe the integration of their technology and their systems as well as their genetics into our, you know, our paradigm, every single metric that you would measure gets thrown completely into fluff bucks. Like it's, there's almost no way to gauge all of the potential changes that could take place across every single measurable institution. Well, as somebody who's been studying this for a long time, what, where, if you had to game plan this out for us, where do you see things going from today? Yeah, because they're doing something. So where are we going? There's so many different ways we can go with this, but yeah, what do you think? Forget whatever plans you have this weekend because you're staying at home and playing on Spin Quest. And there's never been a better time to sign up than right now. New users get $30 coin packs for just $10. All the table games you love with hundreds of slot games and real cash Prizes. That's at spinquest.coms P I N Q U S T.com Spin Quest is a free to play social casino void where prohibited. Visit spinquest.com for more details. And Doug, there's nowhere I wouldn't go to help someone customize and save on car insurance with Liberty Mutual. Even if it means sitting front row at a comedy show.
Dr. Heather Lynn
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Dr. Heather Lynn
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Dr. Heather Lynn
Liberty. Well, not to plug my substack, but I did put a. Like, overtly, but I did put an article up on that regarding my documents that I have from the arcane school of the Lucis Trust from being a member of that society for over a decade. I went in and did some sort of participant observation and was able to. Yes, so I have these documents and I do have them scanned. So these come from. So because they. They mail them to you because you. A lot of the information is available online, so, you know, people can look. But a lot of it's also occult blinded. So there's words that are unusually capitalized and that sort of thing. But these documents in particular come from time cycles of the new group of world servers. And again, I'm not suggesting that the Lucis Trust is the only organization who's at the helm of all of this, but they are a very important connected organization because they have a seat at the table at the United Nations. They have the United Nations, United nations meditation room. They have influenced a lot of these new apostolic church movements and this sort of thing. They have a lot of people who have been involved in their efforts for quite some time. And they are those New Agers that have adopted this like, Christian sort of flavor, a vibe that kind of pulls people in, in such a way. So you'll hear a lot of people who. Well, they'll come at me like, how dare you attack. I've known people who are involved in that. They're just the greatest, nicest, most peaceful people. And it's like, look, love and light is very deceptive. We live in an age of deception. So. And maybe those individuals weren't bad people, but they're also being deceived. It's not about judgment. It is about just calling it out and letting it see the light because we need to have this exposed. So when you look at this time cycles of the new group of world servers in these documents, it lays out three nested ritual calendars of 3, 9 and 27. It starts with 1933, and it has a pivotal point in 2011, 2012, as the crisis and consolidation period, where there's tension and expansion, emergence, impact on public consciousness. Many of the things when you see. It's very interesting when you look at the things you talked about, COVID 9, 11, any of this, and you map it onto these, the cycles that they were using. And these cycles are based in very developed forms of astrology. Also divination, channeling. Channeling is the main thing. Meditation.
David Lee Corbo
Because even in the Bible it says that the stars are put in the firmament for timekeeping. And I, and I do think somebody in the comments earlier said they're using a different calendar and it places us in like 2027 currently or something like that. Whether or not that's the case, I do think you shave a couple of days off of each month and you do that early enough. And where we are perceptually in the timeline is totally screwed up. And it doesn't have to be be by a lot. It just has to be enough that it doesn't sync up with the stars in the sky anymore. And we're not looking at those. Also to clarify, I, I misspoke it. The. The churches that I was talking about before with the whole Charlie Kirk thing, Gateway, elevation, hillsong, those big ones, it's all new Apostolic Nation. So what you just mentioned, it must be influenced by these. This same group, which is.
Dr. Heather Lynn
Exactly. They're very gnostic. They very much have this loosest trust vibe which is just based in theosophy. It's just theosophical ideas. But they've been. Now why it's important too is as that movement kind of progressed, they had been integral in the pushing of socialist, communist, particularly the Fabian socialist values. Collectivism is a thing because it, it sort of gave them this strategy of having everybody come together as one. Losing the self in this. It's so it's like it was a political motivation that just happened to amplify their religion. I would say religious motivation, but in that sense they have these cycles and the last of the cycle. And this is very important because this was published a hundred years ago. Okay. So this is all what they forecasted that long ago. It ends the. The next round of crisis consolidation starts in 2029, 2030. And it goes only. The entire thing only goes to 2032.
David Lee Corbo
Messiah. 2030. That's like something that we should watch again because a lot of that is. Is based off of. It's just analyzing scripture and coming to the conclusion that there is like even the idea of no man knows the day or the hour, but it's like you could know the year, which is fascinating, but similar time frame. A lot of stuff is pointing to 2030. You know, I couldn't tell you any predictions in other words, that are like. Right, right, those at all. And maybe that's just because we're a product of the time that we're living in. But there's a lot of data that they're using to come to these conclusions. And whether or not that's valid is another discussion. But it's still a fascinating observation.
Dr. Heather Lynn
Yeah, and another thing too is the question of is, is it even true? Is it even something that we could put anything in, or is this just them, as Sam said, astroturfing the end times, you know, because that, we see a lot of that going on where people want to put out the prophecy, there's a prophecy, but then they want to align everything that they're doing with that prophecy. So that gives them that power to say, look, see, it's all coming to fulfillment. And so it's hard to even know for sure if we are expecting something. But interestingly enough too, it is like 30 years difference. But. But it's in the course of human history. It's really close. But Isaac Newton spent a whole lot of his time trying to calculate that that day. When would the end times be? He was so interested in the book of Revelation. Most of his work wasn't even as we would think of as scientific, as much as it was esoteric and occult. He was very much into alchemy. His, his, his works are housed. I think it was Dan Brown who bought a bunch of them and donated them. University of Amsterdam who. They have the best, like research into the occult. Woodra often individuals like that. So you have that literal school of thought and what you have with Newton and his just absolute effort to try to calculate this based on science and, you know, his observations and what he knew at the time. He put it at 2060.
David Lee Corbo
Fascinating. Shout out to Timothy Alvarino. Now I understand why he's got that picture portrait of Isaac Newton behind him, behind him in the shot. At all times, shout out to dad. My mistake.
Dr. Heather Lynn
So not trying to put a date on it because again, I am of that, like, belief that no man will know the day or the time or what. Plus also it's supposed to be world without end, like world without end. Amen. So are we looking at the world ending or are we looking at cycles? Are we looking at what is it that we're looking at? So I feel like it's important to remain like, to not have so much hubris. But also look at those who do operate on the level of hubris that they're building a Tower of Babel. What are they trying to do? They're trying to leverage these systems. They make decisions based on these Calculations over what they're going to do and when and how wars are going to be timed, all of it. And so that's why it's so important to watch what they're doing, because they're, they're kind of at the helm of the ship that they're steering us right into a manufactured Armageddon.
David Lee Corbo
Speaking of making this Tower of Babel, have you seen all the whispers that are going on with cern? There's these ideas that they have, and it sounds super fantastic in its nature. Maybe Topper or Nancy, if you guys can find any of these articles. But the idea that CERN has inadvertently pulled an entity into our realm and can't get it to go back, which is like, I don't even know what to do with that information. I remember there was once upon a time, these whispers of CERN and some representatives doing an article and saying, well, we're either going to be able to identify the Higgs boson particle or we're going to open up a small black hole. And a lot of people said that that was. But it was more of a tongue in cheek joke by a CERN representative in an, in a, an article that did exist once upon a time. I don't know if you can still find it, but. So there's been no shortage of this idea that CERN is opening portals, CERN is opening portals. And there's a guy who's been going around on, on Twitter and he's freaking out. He says he's got insider information and, you know, if we knew, it would freak us out, something like that. And somebody said, hey, thanks for saying nothing in your post. What did you mean by that? And he goes, actually, you're right, I'm very sorry.
Dr. Heather Lynn
Sorry.
David Lee Corbo
What I mean to say is that people from CERN are saying that they've bought something into this dimension and they can't say they did it twice. They did it twice, which is like we didn't learn the first time. Do you, what do you make of that? Does that sound like anything that makes any sense to you at all?
Dr. Heather Lynn
It's hard to say because I know that the people at CERN have a great sense of humor and love to gin up a lot of things for their news. And, and so because sometimes people have been interviewed on that and they just kind of think it's fun. So it's hard to know if they're doing that because they're mocking us and what we may believe or think or be inclined to think, or if this is actually a Thing. So it's really, it's, it's hard to know what they are doing. They're doing some strange things. I will say though, there was an article that came out just recent the other day, yesterday maybe about a woman who was saying that she saw that open AI had been like in a race to create a God or bring in these entities. And we've heard a lot about that, I think on podcasts and just all over the place. Has kind of had a buzz over the AI companies kind of being responsible for something like opening some sort of gate or a stargate, if you will, to bring entities in or, or what have you. So it's, it's really, I think if we were to look at that. Yes, yes, that one. And so it's also interesting timing. Again, this could all just be interesting timing. But the Pope also had his like, thing that came out talking about the AI threat to.
David Lee Corbo
Yes.
Dr. Heather Lynn
So we have a lot of individuals and you know, of course people will say, well, who cares about the Pope? And because these are all important individuals that have platforms and they're discussing these things and it's really important to see how is this narrative shaping. And I, There is a, there is a YouTube video I would recommend. It's, it's kind of older, but I used to have my students watch it. It was called like Don't Trust the Promise of AI and it had Jaron Lanier and people like that in it. And it was a great debate from iq, from iq, but it's a great debate. I would suggest anybody watch that because it's, it kind of before everything got real big into the LLMs and whatnot, it discussed the reality that, that a lot of what goes on in Silicon Valley is money based, where we see this with a lot of scams where you have to over promise what it is that your thing can do so that you can get capital. And so I think that when we see a lot of headlines that will say, hey, you know, Google, just somebody at Google just said that the AI came to life. And they, you know, said, I think a lot of that could just be manufactured so that, that people can say, look how much progress. And they get excited about the potential for artificial intelligence.
David Lee Corbo
A great move for your investors. Right? I mean, if you have people that have shown interest and maybe they're on the fence between you and another form of AI, you go, well, mine just started speaking a coded language that only other AI seem to understand. And we had to shut them down because we had no idea what they were talking about. And you go, oh, yeah, that one's definitely guerrilla marketing. When they do. Yeah, they'll do some kind of viral thing to promote a movie. Yes. Which I've fallen for enough times that I don't think I fall for it anymore. You know. You know what? I, we talked about it before and I didn't get a chance to ask you directly about it. What do you make about those ideas? Matt Gates saying there's a hybridization program going on, you know, in these deep underground military bases. And I think some people have even gone as far to elaborate and say it involves trafficked illegal migrants. What do you think about all that?
Dr. Heather Lynn
Well, I think that
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David Lee Corbo
Right. To be an element within this of so individuals that are, you know, good for sex trafficking, good for organ harvesting, or display potential psionic abilities. Psionic abilities being the real thing that they're interested in after.
Dr. Heather Lynn
Yeah. And then you look at that over here, and then you identify what some of the individuals have been after for a long time, which would, through archeology and anthropology, looking for evidence of their particular. Particular familial or racial connection to what they believe are those who have the divine right to rule. So the bloodline connection.
David Lee Corbo
The dragon. The dragon priest or the, the bloodline dragon.
Dr. Heather Lynn
Yes. And so I think what we're looking at here is, you know, the effort to find those individuals, to parse us all out, to see, like, who might have this ability, who might be part of this, like, royal lineage, and then figure out what can be done at that rate. And it is based in this, like, supremacist kind of orientation. And so, like, in. Nobody wants to really discuss that anymore because we want to feel like we're above that. And that doesn't happen. However, Israel, if you want to return to Israel, they do have blood tests and DNA tests that they do. And they are espousing, you know, the people in charge there are espousing their particular importance and right to have those. The soil based on their blood. And it's about this, like, idea of a supreme, of supreme chosen people. So, you know, this chosen people concept, I think it's chosen for what? You know, like, let's ask, what are you chosen for?
David Lee Corbo
Right.
Dr. Heather Lynn
And so when you really identify how that's come about, that narrative, it's not about what, like, Jesus spoke about. Now that political narrative has turned into something that is more about who gets to rule the world. And using blood as sort of the excuse to, whether it be. Align themselves with that divine right to rules to say, hey, look, we are actually demigods.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah, Right. Which is, you know, Nephilim. And it's like, well, what is the, the bloodline that makes you Nephilim? Well, if you look to any of these royal houses, most of them on their, on their sigils or on their, Their crests, there is a red dragon. They think that they're from the, The. The royal bloodline of the dragon. So you mean the, the seed of the serpent.
Dr. Heather Lynn
Yeah.
David Lee Corbo
So once again, this is all biblical. This is my thing. This is why I can't detach it. It's like, no matter how often one of these people comes along and they say something about fallen angels and Nephilim, and I go, that's pretty Sketchy because I don't trust you and you're saying a lot of the same things I'm saying now. I got to do some, some inventory, but it seems very obvious to me. You know, they're calling it the Royal Bloodline of the Dragon, but in the Bible it's just called the seed of the Serpent. And it all, it all lines up and it's like, well, what does the seed of the serpent make you if you're half human, half serpent seed? You're the Nephilim.
Dr. Heather Lynn
Nephilim, right.
David Lee Corbo
I'm like, you know, so it's, it's, it's my attempt repeatedly to ground myself and just make sure that I'm not going with the flow of a river that is filled with psyops, which I'm sure it is. In, in fact, you have to co op the trail. Truth, if you ever hope to deceive people. Something that is entirely made of lies is not very compelling. So you need to incorporate as much truth as possible in order to gain the trust of people. But somewhere, at some point, you've got to watch out, you've got to remain discerning and keep doing that inventory and keep, you know, grounding yourself to make sure that you haven't bought into this one thing, this one rotten fruit that, that spoils the bunch.
Dr. Heather Lynn
Yeah, it's like your white water rafting through this whole thing. And so, I mean. Yeah, and, and so I think that conversations like this and being able to share this openly to people and I think it goes exactly against what they're trying to do, and it probably makes them very mad, which is why some people get channel strikes and this sort of thing. It's because even if we might accidentally be pushing their narrative, say they want us to think that they're all nephilim or this or that or the other. It's not, it's not about that. It's about the parsing through the real data, looking for those data points and trying to say, okay, well now that we have our flashlights and we're looking and, you know, let's turn those flashlights up and see who's actually keeping us in the dark to begin with.
David Lee Corbo
Yeah, well, I, I highly recommend people check out your work and keep up to date with your sub stack because you're one of the people that are analyzing this. And it. We're in this real time whitewater rafting, as you put it, where information is coming out so quickly, we are being subjected to, to information warfare, and you're one of the people that is analyzing this most earnestly in my estimation. Like I said, a lot of people who, who watch this show reached out recently and said, hey, Dr. Heather Lynn's doing fantastic work on this disclosure on her subject. So, you know, if you're a fan of the show, if you're a fan of this conversation, go and check out your work. You know, as we bring it to a close, let's remind everybody where. Where can everybody find your work?
Dr. Heather Lynn
My work is primarily just on substack. You can go find my substack through Dr. Heather Lynn dot com. It'll be right there button. Or you can just go to substack and look for Dr. Heather Lynn and I'll show up. But that's where I publish all my stuff. And yeah, there's lives. I do Q and A's and it's a really good time. I have a really great community in my discord where we talk about all of these things. And also I post the documents, like I said, as somebody who has collected a lot of documents and, you know, I'm working on creating a library that's searchable for everybody to be able to look at some of these things and compare. So it's a project we're working on. We're doing a lot of good things, I think. And I welcome anybody with any viewpoints too. We're not trying to like push people out. We really want this to be a. The whitewater rafting finding, you know, where we can find that dry land and have meetings about all of this. So I appreciate the opportunity to be able to come on here and talk about it. And I also appreciate that, you know, there's so many supportive people. I really do appreciate this because it's a hot button issue that creates a lot of a negative energy. And I don't know, I can't say I'm not going to sell you on an idea or tell you I'm right about something or tell you how to believe. The only thing I know is I'm desperate to get to the truth and to quote the Nietzsche. Nietzsche, who is so controversial and interesting because of that. You know, he said there are two different types of people in the world. Those who want to believe and those who want to know and like in that I want to believe poster is all fun and I love that and I would really love to be in that camp. I'm at the point now where I just want to know, know. And so I'm. My goal is just to know. And whatever I find out, I'M going to share with everybody, good or bad. And so we'll see where we go, right? We'll see where we land.
David Lee Corbo
For all the people listening, we've already set it up. You're going to be at Bohemian Grove. And I got to tell you, I'm so excited because you were asking, what are we going to talk about? And I said, who? Who the hell knows, dude?
Dr. Heather Lynn
Right?
David Lee Corbo
Everything is moving so fast. I look forward to having something new and exciting to. To discuss at Bohemian Grove and to kind of like bounce these ideas off of all the other fantastic people that are going to be there. So, yeah, I don't know what to tell you about what we're going to talk about because I have no idea what the hell they're going to do. We'll have like a whole table full of brand new things to try to put together. It's going to be a lot of fun, man. So. So thank you for coming out. I'm really looking forward to that.
Dr. Heather Lynn
Me too. It's going to be a lot of fun. Maybe we'll talk about whether or not the great alien has been working out too much at the gym and ignoring leg day or whatever it is that time.
David Lee Corbo
Who knows, maybe we'll was real or something like that, right? Come on.
Dr. Heather Lynn
Who knows?
David Lee Corbo
It's always a pleasure talking to you. I'm glad we got.
Dr. Heather Lynn
Bye, guys.
David Lee Corbo
Bye. Bye, Dr. Heatherland. And guys, happy Memorial Day. Memorial Day. Yeah. Another great episode. Until next time, don't forget to obey. Submit and comply. See you later. And they will do it again. The end is written in the book.
Dr. Heather Lynn
In the pages they foresee.
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Episode: Disclosure Deception: The Final Card
Guest: Dr. Heather Lynn
Date: May 25, 2026
Hosts: David Lee Corbo & TopLobsta
In this deeply engaging and incisive episode, Nephilim Death Squad welcomes Dr. Heather Lynn, historian, researcher of occult power structures, and Substack writer, for an urgent and unsparing breakdown of current UFO/alien “disclosure” narratives. The conversation critically examines the flood of “mainstream” attention on topics previously dismissed as fringe—aliens, Nephilim, fallen angels—and questions who is controlling these narratives, what their motivations are, and how spiritual deception may be at work behind cascading cultural and technological change. Through wit, candor, and relentless drilling into detail, Lynn and hosts explore the psyops shaping our era, the occult logic beneath pop culture, religious and political ritual, narrative infiltration, and the risk of a mass “rug pull” on the collective worldview.
Dr. Heather Lynn can be followed on Substack (doctorheatherlynn.substack.com) and via her main website (www.doctorheatherlynn.com). She curates live Q&A, Discord discussions, and an ever-growing library of scanned and searchable esoteric/occult documents—open to all serious researchers and the intellectually curious.
“I can't say I'm not going to sell you on an idea or tell you I'm right about something or tell you how to believe. The only thing I know is I'm desperate to get to the truth... I'm at the point now where I just want to know. And whatever I find out, I'm going to share with everybody, good or bad. And so we'll see where we go, right? We'll see where we land.” [107:25 – Dr. Heather Lynn]
Catch Dr. Lynn live at Bohemian Grove this August for further uncensored, real-time whitewater rafting down the river of revelation, ritual, and resistance.
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