Dispensationalist Aliens w/ Bennis the Menace Podcast

Summary

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Nephilim Death Squad — Episode Summary

Podcast: Nephilim Death Squad
Episode: Dispensationalist Aliens w/ Bennis the Menace Podcast
Date: June 23, 2026
Hosts: David Lee Corbo ("the Raven"), TopLobsta (Co-host)
Guest: Ben of Venice the Menace (host of the Bennis the Menace podcast)

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Episode Theme & Purpose

This episode digs deep into the convergence of modern "alien" phenomena, biblical cosmology, and the pitfalls of dispensationalist thinking. The hosts and guest Ben critically explore the supernatural and technological roots of ancient civilizations through a distinctively Christian comedic/conspiracy lens, aiming to challenge believers and skeptics alike. Major threads include the distinction between aliens, demons, and other spiritual entities, the impact of New Age disclosure narratives, and a call for discernment in interpreting "end times" events through scripture without falling into pop-culture traps.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Community Focus & Show Frame (02:53–06:08)

• The Nephilim Death Squad community is described as organic, participatory, and centered around Bible study and confronting spiritual deception, not just entertainment.
• Introduction of Ben as half of “Bennis the Menace”—the podcast now serves as a recovery and support group for ex-dispensationalists (06:08).

2. Deconstructing Dispensationalism & Biblical Genesis of Alien Views (06:08–08:29)

• Ben recounts his journey out of dispensationalism (pre-millennial, pre-trib rapture theology), shocked at its 19th-century origins (John Darby, 1830s).
  • Quote: “I never knew that all this stuff came up in, like, 1830 with John Darby. Nobody ever told me that. The second I heard that, I’m like, this is new! … Not even freaking close, man.” (06:40, Ben)
• Humor at his own “autistic” obsessiveness researching the topic.
• Shifts to cultural commentary: Many Christians lazily say "aliens are demons," but biblical categories are more nuanced (07:30–08:29).

3. Are Aliens Just Demons? — A Biblical Taxonomy (14:30–18:58)

• Ben sharply distinguishes "demons" (biblically: disembodied spirits of Nephilim per Enoch) from the broader pantheon paraded in contemporary UFOlogy: Grays, Nordics, Reptilians, Insectoids, plasmoids, etc.
  • Quote: “A demon is not a Reptilian. A demon is not an Insectoid. A demon is not a Nordic. It's not a UFO… Biblically speaking, a demon is none of the other things that are being testified before Congress.” (15:43, Ben)
• Notes the progress of "disclosure" in mainstream culture and media (e.g., Spielberg’s Disclosure Day) and the inadequacy of the “all demons” answer as phenomenon and deception escalate (17:03–18:20, David).

4. Understanding the “Malevolent Forces” (18:58–22:49)

• Explores biblical categories: "malevolent forces" include Satan, fallen angels, Watchers, demons, Nephilim, principalities, powers, etc. (Ephesians 6, Psalm 82, Michael Heiser’s work).
• Argues Paul does not say all evil is simply “demons”; the demonic umbrella covers real, differentiated spiritual entities (20:04–22:05).
  • Quote: “In the demons category, if Enoch applies, we understand the demons category... but there's still devils and unclean spirits… Paul… lists four kinds of malevolent forces that we are at war with…” (19:41, 22:05, Ben & David)

5. Symbolism Versus Literal Cosmology—Angels, Heaven & Genesis Tech (22:49–26:21)

• Pushback against overly allegorical “outer space” readings (Timothy Albarino’s approach), affirming belief in extra-dimensional rather than simply extraterrestrial angels.
  • Quote: “I don't think angels eat food. I don't think they have peepees and that they can make sex, sex with human women... I just don't think that it's a three dimensional reality.” (23:49, Ben)
• The “kingdom of heaven” and the afterlife are not “other planets.” Instead, technology and supernatural reality described in the Bible is interdimensional, not astral-physical.

6. The Case for Ancient, High-Tech Evil (26:28–34:14)

• Ben’s thesis: Pre-flood malevolent beings (the “antediluvian world”)—Satan, Nephilim, Watchers—were hyper-advanced, technologically; capable of bioengineering, off-world colonization; the origin of “aliens.”
  • Quote: “I do think the kingdom of Satan may be intergalactic… all these different categories are beings that were created by Satan himself for different various purposes before the flood…” (28:28, Ben)
• Speculation that “aliens” (reptilians, grays—insectoids, etc.) are remnants or returnees of these pre-flood beings.

7. Satan as Creator? Creation vs. Corruption/Inversion (28:51–33:35)

• Challenges: Does Satan (or fallen angels) create, or merely corrupt?
  • Quote: “It seems more of an inversion… Satan as co-opting, inverting, twisting, corrupting…” (30:57, David)
  • Demons (as the spirits of Nephilim) are examples of unauthorized life forms begotten, not created ex nihilo by God.
• Ben warns Christians underestimate the breadth/depth of spiritual evil: “We think Satan's just on your shoulder whispering naughties… No. There's something way bigger happening.” (33:35, Ben)

8. Genetic Modification, Hybridization, and False Gospels (34:14–37:27)

• Modern hybridization programs (e.g., alleged government/alien experiments, abductions like Karen Wilkinson’s testimony) are parallels/reboots of ancient Nephilim abominations (36:23, David).
• Alien phenomena entwined with counterfeit gospels—demonic entities impersonating Christ or saints, as reported in abduction or possession narratives.
  • Quote: “These things can portray themselves as anybody they want to, whether it’s Mary Magdalene… even Jesus at times.” (38:37, Ben)

9. Ancient Tech, the Tree of Life, and Pre-Flood Civilizations (44:54–55:37)

• The “tree of life” and early Genesis are posited as technological/supernatural realities, not mere botanics—pharmaceuticals are technology, so could Eden’s tree be.
• Adam and Eve, early humans—portrayed as quick to recover advanced knowledge post-fall, with millennia to develop technology seen as “magic” to us.
  • Quote: “Imagine the perfect human brain… over 100 years? 200 years? Probably pretty badass… especially if they have a category in their mind for advanced technology.” (56:47, Ben)

10. The Flood, the Corruption of All Flesh & Surviving Tech (68:45–73:02)

• Massive pre-flood population and genetic corruption of not only humankind but animals and vegetation; evidence in oversized grapes (Num. 13:23) and cross-mythology hybrid creatures.
• Flood as a global reset—yet, megalithic structures like the pyramids may survive as remnant pre-flood “power plants” (Chris Dunn’s Giza Power Plant theory, 95:33–99:34).
  • Quote: “We literally can’t move one of those stones… You’re telling me sunburnt slaves in loincloths with ropes move those…?” (97:25, Ben)

11. The Return of the Ancient Gods/Paganism & New Deceptions (84:16–89:31)

• Observations on the resurgence of paganism, “race war” narratives, and “Jewish psyop” accusations in conspiracy circles.
• Mainstream “disclosure” is setting up a global deception targeting specifically Christianity—not Islam, Buddhism, or atheism—because aliens sub in as the old gods, the real threat to the gospel (84:16–85:59).
  • Quote: “Christianity is going to be shaken by this. Not Islam, not Buddhism… Christianity in particular.” (85:44, Ben)

12. Tech, Entities, and Channeling—Modern Parallels (73:02–79:17)

• The modern resurgence of "paranormal" and technological advances is inspired by spiritual “channeling” (e.g., musicians, scientists). Technology as a gift from “gods/spirits” echoed across cultures and disciplines.
  • Carlos Santana channeling Metatron (74:14), Einstein's own accounts of inspiration, and Jack Parsons.

13. End-Times, Deception, and the Danger of Dispensationalism (79:17–115:48)

• Critique of dispensationalism: Not a biblical, ancient view but an 1830s innovation that hamstrings Christian understanding of the supernatural and the “end times.”
• Ben’s post-millennial/“kingdom now” eschatology: Christ is currently ruling, but a brief reign of deception (Satan’s "little season") is ahead before Christ's final return.
  • Quote: “I feel like dispensationalism has brought Christianity to the point where the world is ripe for the taking and for the great deception that needs to be unleashed…” (110:19, Ben)
• The final deception will likely come through alien/UFO phenomena, reactivating ancient lies and paving the way for a war against Christianity and a falling away of the unprepared.

14. Staying Grounded: The Centrality of Christ & The Role of Bible Study (116:57–130:11)

• Repeated cautions to focus on Christ, even while delving into “the weeds” of supernatural/alien speculation.
  • Quote: “The only thing that matters is keeping your eyes fixed on Christ, just like he should have and otherwise didn’t for a moment and fell into the water and was lifted out of it.” (117:31, David)
• The discernment challenge: Not to become lost in the darkness or technological fascination; the Word/Bible as the safest anchor (121:59, Ben).
• Biblical study transforms perspective: “Reading the Bible again without that [dispensationalist] filter… it’s a whole other story. Christ is the center. Nothing is apart from Christ.” (121:59, Ben)

15. Personal Testimonies & The Purpose of the Podcast (130:11–134:26)

• The goal is not simply to answer every question about ancient tech or aliens—but to reach those on the fringe or in doubt, and lead, not to fear, but to Christ and scripture.
  • Quote (Impactful Story): “If Christ sees fit to draw that guy near, I am more than thankful that my stupid two hour video about aliens helped.” (125:49, Ben)
• A call for adaptability as God leads: “It does not have to be about aliens all the time… go wherever the spirit leads… These things will change for everyone.” (132:23, Ben)

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Notable & Memorable Quotes

• “A demon is not a Reptilian. A demon is not an Insectoid. A demon is not a Nordic… Biblically speaking, a demon is none of the other things that are being testified before Congress.” (15:43, Ben)
• “There's a tree with the fruit, they eat it, they live forever. Point proven. He doesn’t need to get into the details… Probably not an apple, probably not a tree… probably a technology.” (57:45, Ben)
• “The only thing that matters is keeping your eyes fixed on Christ… if you’re going to partake in [this dance], do it carefully. I don't know if we do it carefully…” (117:31, David)
• “Reading the Bible again without that [dispensationalist] filter… it’s a whole other story. Christ is the center. Nothing is apart from Christ.” (121:59, Ben)
• “I, I'm seeing how Christians are being used because of this bogus interpretation of scripture that arose primarily in 1830 by Darby…” (125:49, Ben)
• “Let there be just even a sentence, even just one sentence that resonates with one person out there that is drawn closer to the Lord because of some that we said…” (130:11, David)
• “Go with it, bro. These things… will change for everybody. Where you guys are at… might change. Go wherever the Spirit leads. It does not have to be about aliens all the time.” (132:23, Ben)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Community, Bible Study, and Episode Setup — 02:53–06:08
• Why Dispensationalism Fell Apart — 06:08–08:29
• Aliens vs. Demons: Defining Terms — 14:30–18:58
• Biblical Inventory of ‘Malevolent Forces’ — 18:58–22:49
• Rebutting “Outer Space” Angelology & Symbolism — 22:49–26:21
• Ancient Tech/Pre-flood Civilization Thesis — 26:28–34:14
• Creation vs. Inversion: The Nature of Satanic Powers — 28:51–33:35
• Modern Hybridization: Abductions and False Gospels — 34:14–37:27
• The Tree of Life as Technology — 44:54–55:37
• The Corruption of All Flesh & Post-Flood Technology — 68:45–73:02
• Rise of Modern Paganism and Old Gods — 84:16–89:31
• Ancient Tech Parallels: Megaliths, Power Plants, Ley Lines — 95:33–99:34
• Critiquing Dispensationalism & The Great Deception — 110:19–115:48
• Staying Grounded in Christ & the Word — 116:57–130:11
• Closing Reflections and Farewells — 131:40–134:32

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Takeaways for Listeners

• Spiritual Discernment Matters: The modern “alien”/UFO narrative is sophisticated and dovetails with ancient biblical and extra-biblical warnings about deception and the return of old spiritual enemies.
• Nuanced Biblical Literacy Needed: “Aliens are just demons” is too simple a take; understanding the biblical categories of evil equips believers not to be blindsided by emerging deceptions in culture and media disclosure.
• All Roads Lead to Christ: True north is always Christ; no matter how far into the weeds of ancient technology or demonic deception, every line of inquiry must resolve in Christ as the answer for our age.
• Dispensationalism Under Fire: 19th-century eschatological frameworks may actually contribute to Christian confusion/deception; returning to a more holistic, scripture-first perspective is urged.
• Personal Responsibility: Listeners are urged to do their own study and not treat podcasters as pastors—community and discernment are paramount.

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Find Ben:

• YouTube & Instagram: Bennis the Menace

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Final Words:
“It does not have to be about aliens all the time. Absolutely does not have to. Go wherever the Spirit leads… You do your part and God does the rest.” (132:23–134:26, Ben & co-host)

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Transcript

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

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[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

in the shadows of the ancient ones, they never went away.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

They're still here today. It's crack.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Welcome blap ladies and gentlemen to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad. I am David Lee Corbo, AKA the Raven that stop lops of the father of disinformation.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

What's up?

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Before we get into today's guest, a little reminder. If you want to support us, Patreon.com/forge/Nepilim Death Squad is the place to do that. You'll gain access to episodes before the general public ad, free listening experiences, access to communities of dangerous on telegram, on Discord, on Twitter. You'll also get discount codes off of merchandise and top lobster dot com.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

But before we go there, let's talk about what the dangerous retards. Because this is a community upon itself.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Yes.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

Well, they have colonized and I, I have no control over what happens.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Community of colonizers. So they're doing a weekly Bible study which there's been, I think three. And I've been to two of them or maybe just two of them. And I've been to, to both of them.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

There's been three. They did. They did one small one, but they

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

didn't invite us or tell us about it. That's how, how much the community has taken on a life of its own. So this Bible study has nothing to do with us other than it is the community of dangerous retards getting together, pulling apart scripture and helping each other come closer to the Lord. And this happens on Wednesday nights, typically. The last one was a banger. I was in that I think for an hour and a half. So it goes off for a long time if you're interested in that. That's going to be the discord community. So you know all the dangerous retards who are listening, who are already on Patreon, who want in in the Bible study.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

Get your community on.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Get your community. We got to get a link up on the Patreon.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

If you want to do more community, go to over here and buy a shirt and go to Bohemian Grove with one of these shirts on.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

You could get tickets to the General admission day. That's August 8th in Wildwood, Florida. And it's going to be a good time. Actually. I have the list of people I want to wrap it off.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

Guest approved.

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[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

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[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

We have a great guest today. I think this is third time on the show, or maybe first time, second time on the show, but whatever.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Well, the second or third time that we've talked to him without his co. I don't know who his co host is. I don't know if he's a real guy. But we are joined by Ben of Venice the Menace. What's going on, brother? It's good to see you. Before we start this conversation, let's just remind people where they can find you.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

The YouTube channel, Bennis the Menace, Pod Instagram, Venice the Menace, all that stuff. Ben is the menace. I am going to fire Dennis. So he's the latter half of Bennis, right? He's. He's the nissell. From now on, it's just gonna be Ben.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Yeah, he brings the niss. He's the guy that brings the heaviness. And.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Yes.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

And it just didn't pan out. I've been waiting to meet him. Very excited. Well, I guess we'll have to wait till next time. What do you do over on Ben is the Menace Pod Dude.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Right now the Lord has taken us into a interesting, interesting season, which we're basically a support group for former dispensationalists because we've recently come out of dispensationalism and because I have autism, I've been going hard down that rabbit hole, you

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

know, in their crimes.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

You come at it from a different angle. You mentioned that.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

That. Yeah, definitely. It's been very interesting. We've had some good debates on there about dispensationalism, pre millennialism, pre trib rapture, all that stuff, which I. Dude, I never. I have a degree in Biblical studies. I never knew that all this stuff came up in, like, 1830 with John Darby. Nobody ever told me that. The second I heard that, I'm like, this is new. What do you mean? I thought that this is what Christians always believed. Not even freaking close, man. It's. I don't want to say all. And I don't want people to get mad at me, but certain aspects are kind of culty, you know, and then the other part of it is talking about aliens and what's going on culturally and all that stuff. We're on the cutting edge of novel alien theory at the moment, you know?

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Novel alien theory. That's actually refreshing to hear because so much of, you know, sort of our Theorizing surrounding this phenomenon.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

It's an old Hollywood hat, right?

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Yeah, in, in a huge way. And I just want to say, before we get into this, it's funny because there's a lot of other types of podcasts out there, and we find ourselves in this niche, kind of, you know, Christian conspiracy corner of podcasting. And it's one of the few genres in which it's, it's community driven. What I mean by that is like, of course, if you do a comedy podcast, you're going to have fans and you're going to have people that gather around for the laughs, but this is like you're, we're calling in people who are like minded, and then what happens is, you know, you're talking about your community. We just talked about hours getting together and doing this Bible study. These people are coming together and we're unified in Christ and then we're like sleuthing through information, trying to make sense of the world as it comes at us and as we move forward in time. And I, I, it just dawned on me how unique that is. It, that is a very unique thing.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

That is, it's incredible.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

It is incredible. It really is.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

I don't, I don't take it for granted. I realize every day how incredible it is. You know what I mean? Like, we got together doing this just because me and my buddies would have these conversations on FaceTime, like once a week when we, during COVID because we couldn't see each other, and my buddies are all over the country, so we'd get together on FaceTime and talks and I'd always, like, bring up this weird stuff and everybody thought I was crazy, but they'd always want to know more, you know what I mean? And then they keep texting me afterwards and I'm like, dude, I don't got time to talk to each of you guys individually. Let's just freaking, like, have these conversations online and let's go from there. Nobody wanted to do it because they were all chicken shits except for my boy Dennis, you know, and that's where

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

the Dennis does it.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Dennis does it. That's where this came out of.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

That's fine.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

That's where this came out of. And here we are today, and it's, dude, it's incredible. And I thank God for it every day. And even though I tell them every, I tell people every time on our episode, do not listen to me. I'm not your pastor. I'm not teaching you. I'm not responsible for you. Do your own research. This is just where I'm at. And I'm talking to my buddies and we're having this conversation online in case anybody else cares to eavesdrop. But I'm not responsible for you. You know what I mean? You're all adults. You're all responsible before the Lord. I'm just being honest with where I'm at and what I'm thinking through myself. You know what I'm saying?

[SpinQuest Announcer]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

That's where I've gotten in this too. It's like, you know, even we were talking about the Bible study. Like, I don't want anything to do with changing that or steering that or anything. I'm glad that the community. I'm grateful that they've come together and have decided to. To, you know, have these moments where they're diving into Scripture. And I benefit greatly from it because I get to listen in. But also the community benefits from it. And I'm not. I'm learning alongside everybody else. I'm not anybody's teacher. I'm not anybody's. We've said it before. We're just kind of the loudest and funniest kids in class. And since we're loud, we get to ask questions. And I think the questions just end up being questions that the audience also has or the rest. So this topic that we're going to get into today, we've been talking about it ad nauseam. We took a little break for a while because it is. There's a little bit of, like, alien fatigue. But we're gonna set out today to. To lay out some information in regards to the nature of. Of the phenomenon.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

Well, let's. We'll talk about why we got here as well, because. So some of our class clownish behavior and antics got us in a little trouble with Daddy.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

That's right.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

Which we've moved over.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Right. There's no problems with Daddy anymore. Everything's okay.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

It's fine.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Yeah, I love it.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

We're going to dress up like him for Bohemian Grove. And guys, don't forget about that. I gotta actually announce that there is a costume competition at Bohemian Grove. We're gonna have about be respectful and be, you know, conservative. I don't want to see any. Any meat hanging out, but you guys. To dress like Daddy. And we're gonna have about 20 slots, give or take. And. And of course, whoever gets voted for the best Timothy Alvarino costume, you know, comp. Competitor, whatever, is going to get a prize. We're gonna have gifts to give away to the winners. We might have, like, A top three. Of course. You know, whoever does the best gets.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

Maybe we should give them the daddy here.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Oh, we could give them the daddy here. That would be great. It doesn't get them anything except for. Also we have to call them daddy.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

Ain't nobody else got the daddy tier. Let me see.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

That's right. Who has the mommy. Somebody had the mommy tear.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

No, I think that was one of your wives.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

We might. I don't know. I think we have to call somebody mommy.

[Bluff]

I just.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

Sorry it was the wrong way around. Somebody. One person is a member of daddy tier.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Oh, we haven't been calling them daddy. Well, I don't know who they are, so.

[SpinQuest Announcer (alternate)]

Tim.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Imagine that. So I just want to remind everybody

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

because we have to keep an eye on these whippersnappers.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

We've done a bad job of reiterating that when we come like guys, show up in your Timothy Alvarino Indiana Jones outfits and sign up for the costume competition. Probably sign up at the door. We might do something like that. And. And we're gonna judge these things and. And it's gonna be a lot of fun. So just reminding everybody that's going to be a segment. And if you guys don't dress up then I gotta figure out what. What other stuff we want to do

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

being we got in trouble for our lack of delineation between what aliens are and what demons are and we blurred some lines because.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Did we?

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

I think we did.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

Because I felt like he was blurring lines and I'm still not quite sure. But you came here to talk about the differences between.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Yeah, I'll try. You know, I'm still thinking about Daddy Meat. I'm trying to. I'm trying to get that hat.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

I just want to. Once again reiterating. No, Daddy Meat. Don't. Guys, when you come, I don't want scantily clad Indiana moans. All right? I want. You know, do whatever you want. Just don't show the flesh, you know.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

The.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

The Fruit of the Trees

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

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[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Yeah, man. Listen, you guys got me thinking, because the. The classic Christian trope is that aliens are demons, right? I used to say that. I said that for a few years. It used to be my Twitter bio or whatever it's called. Handle. I don't know what it's called. But then after you guys got into it with Tim, I realized, like, okay, hold on. I see what both of you are saying. Okay. But then the disclosure kept happening, and now you got Fox News talking about, hey, there's Nordics, Insecto, Lloyd's, Reptilians, Grays. What's the dude's name that just came out on, I forget what channel? And he was talking about how the Orbs are a sentient species in and of themselves. You know, what's that guy? The main whistleblower guy? Rush. That guy Grush.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

He's talking about sentient plasmoids.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

That's it. That's it. But he's referring to the orbs. You know what I mean?

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

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[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

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[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Interesting. Okay. All that to say demons, biblically, are a specific entity. It's a specific category of being, according to Enoch, Disembodied spirit of the Nephilim. Okay? A demon is not a Reptilian. A demon is not an Insectoid. A demon is not a Nordic. It's not a ufo. A demon doesn't fly a spaceship. Maybe they inhabit the Grays, and that's kind of their meat suit, their avatar to linger in the third dimension and do little nefarious deeds. You know what I mean? That's one theory of what the Grays are. But biblically speaking, a demon is none of the other things that are being testified before Congress as existing. You know, definitively existing. So then I'm like, dude, okay, I see what NDS is saying about, hey, it's all demonic. Who cares about the details? It's all demonic. But I also see that the disclosure is progressing. And if everybody's, If Christians are just walking around being like, dude, no, it's demons. No, it's demons. And then a spaceship one day pops over like the White House and laser beams it. And Christians are like, ah, demons. Most people that aren't Christian that don't understand, they mean demonic.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Sure.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Are going to be like, what the hell are you talking about? That was a laser beam coming out of us, out of a spaceship. How is that a demon? You know what I'm saying?

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Agreed. Agreed. Yeah. So, by the way, I just want to say that as we. We're doing this right now, like, there's a lot of movement on the disclosure front. I don't know, because not everybody's on Twitter. Not everybody's on social media. A lot of people that listen to our show, your show, they might just be doing that, you know, going through the motions, working in 9 to 5, not spending a whole lot of time online outside of listening to these shows. Guys, there's been a lot of movement. There's been a lot of movement. And as we sit here today, the film Disclosure Day was just released, the Steven Spielberg film. And the way that it's being received, I haven't seen it yet. I think we, we might be able to make some plans tomorrow, possibly to go see it, but it's being received as a massive primer and, like, first step towards disclosure, towards acclimating the public in their opinions. And Steven Spielberg himself has been doing these interviews saying, this is going to shake people's faith, you know, people's idea of religion. So, yeah, if we're just sitting back going, that's a demon, to your point, right, Ben? As it blows up the White House, it's like, that's not going to help anybody stay grounded in their faith. We need to probably be a little bit more nuanced than that, dude.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Totally. And think about it, like, from a biblical perspective, right? Like, that's my. That's my goal, is to interpret everything we see in this reality. I don't care what the freaking news tells me. I don't care what Steven Juberg tells me. I don't care what his movie says. I'm trying to interpret things biblically. All right? We know for a fact biblically, there's a lot going on in the supernatural realm, the spiritual realm. Neither of those two phrases mean anything supernatural or spiritual. That doesn't mean anything. All those words are placeholders for what we don't understand.

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[Ben of Venice the Menace]

You know what I'm saying. So we know For a fact that in the supernatural realm, in. In the. In the domain of the spirits or God or angel, whatever, we know that there's malevolent, which means evil forces. We know there's benevolent, which means good. Right. Just in the malevolent sector, we have Satan, fallen angels, watchers, demons, nephilim, principalities, dominions, thrones, authorities, Insecto, Lloyd's, grays, orbs. Dude, I could go on. Like, I just listed 12 off the top of my head. If I sat and thought about, I could think of more. There's evil humans, there's spaceships.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Ben, would you. Could you delineate, do you think? Because I think about this often when the Bible says devil's, demons and unclean spirits. I mean, we. In the demons category, if, if Enoch applies, we understand the demons category, there's still devils and unclean spirits. I tend to lean towards devils being rebellious angels, unclean spirits, not really too sure. What are your thoughts on that?

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Dude, it can be. We don't. The Bible doesn't see fit to go into that level of detail for us. Okay, are the authors using terms interchangeably to describe the same thing? Maybe. That's very possible. But nevertheless, out of the 12 that I just listed from within the Bible, those are not all the same things. Let's say that one third is taken away and you're left with four or five. Still a diversity of entity within that malevolent force. You know what I'm saying? And, dude, then you've got Psalm 82 which says, God stands in the congregation of the mighty. He judges amongst the gods. Right. This is counsel of the Lord. And we believe part of that council rebelled. We believe that's what Satan was actually part of, was the council of the Lord. This is Michael Heiser stuff, which I'm sure you guys are well familiar with. And then Ephesians 6 is where the other part comes from. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against rulers in the dark world, against spiritual wickedness in the high places. That would be very strange if Paul is referring to the same thing, but he just describes it four different ways. It doesn't seem like that's what's going on. It seems like he just listed four kinds of malevolent forces that we are at war with, even though we don't even know what those forces are. It doesn't matter that we don't understand the supernatural realm. It doesn't matter that we can't catalog. Catalog each of the kinds of being they're still at work, you know what I'm saying? And now, what a coinker dinker. Now we're seeing these things that we call demonic, which I agree, it's all demonic. It's all evil, it's all satanic. Right. But it doesn't mean that they're specifically demons. Paul doesn't say we're battling against demons. He lists four entities or four classes of being that we're battling against. You know what I mean?

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

This is actually where we got into a little bit of trouble with Alvarino. And not to really rehash any of it, but his, his interpretation of many of the descriptions of angels was almost like allegorical or, or, you know, it was, it was a little. But to me, I'm going, it seems very real. And people had very real experiences with these beings, with these Elohim, with these entities and that in order to sort of contextualize what's happening now, like we're talking about Ben, I'm keeping that on the board. I'm keeping the cherubim as a very real, you know, description of something that exists outside of just symbolism or, or allegory.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Yeah, man, I, I loved him. I think he does our side a great service. Okay. I don't agree with everything he says. I agree with probably like 80 to 70% of it. I don't agree with the allegorization part. I don't agree that the kingdom of heaven where God resides is on another planet, you know, in our, in our solar or galaxy or whatever, in space. I don't know where you call it. I think God's well beyond all created order and all created matter. I don't think he exists in this domain by any stretch. I don't think angels live on other planets. You know, I don't think the kingdom of heaven actually has food. This might be crazy. I don't think angels eat food. You know, I don't think they have bodies. I don't think they have peepees and that they can make sex, sex with human women to produce babies. I don't think that they have genitalia. You know what I'm saying? I just don't think that it's a three dimensional reality. And I've had dinner with Tim a couple years ago, I told him about, hey, I see it more as interdimensional. And if I recall, his response was like, okay, well what. Where is that in the Bible? And it's like. I mean, it's kind of.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

Where is anything he's been saying in the Bible? This Was this is the frustration. It's like, we don't know there are four entities listed and we could extrapolate upon based on what I read on the Bible. But then the descriptions that I can give you about supernatural entities were discarded as allegory. So now we're going to start writing four words about the book of Mars. And I'm sorry, Daddy, but it just gets weird and confusing.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Rather.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

No, the book of Mars.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

I'm just saying he's writing a foreword about Mars. Oh, I don't even think that there's space. But again, I'm looking at this and I'm looking at the Bible, like almost Sola scriptura. I'm just reading what that says. It's the most important book in the world. I'm not going outside of it. I'm not making up from inside of it. I'm just trying to translate what that's telling me.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

And that's.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

This is part of the frustration of this push and pull with. With him. And, you know, I don't know, we still. There's still comments like every day on that.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Oh, yeah, people.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

And they're like these. They treated Timothy bad as. Like, we didn't say anything. It was just. Well, no, we didn't.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

If you just watch video afterwards, we said a lot of things, but the

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

video, we were pretty cordial.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Pretty cordial, yeah.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

Again, I, I don't mean to, like, be frustrated by. Because I. I do think Tim does like a. He does a great job at presenting the information, specifically giants, the Book of Enoch, Nephilim, stuff like that. When it starts to get into outer space wacky, like, this is just like, shooter.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

I'm gonna get into some outer space

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

wacky, but might have to shoot you down too.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Damn it. I hope you guys have to dress up like me from now on. Competitions about me. Hey, but again, Ephesians 6:12. We just read it for we wrestle not against flesh and blood, right? Physical material. That's not what we wrestle with. So if the angels are on other planets and the kingdom of heaven is on another planet, that would be something that is material. That would be something that is flesh and blood. Right. How can something on another planet not be flesh and blood? What would it be made out of? Like wispy, just whimsical air.

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[Ben of Venice the Menace]

What is it? Or are just the angels, the benevolent forces, flesh and blood on another planet, but the malevolent forces are not flesh and blood according to. I don't think. I don't think that that's how it Works out. You know what I'm saying?

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[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Okay, I don't think that the kingdom of heaven is on another planet, but I do think the kingdom of Satan may be intergalactic. Okay, I do think that Satan, the nephilim, the malevolence that took over in the antediluvian world, which is the pre flood world, if I use that term. Okay, just so you know what it means. I do think that they were highly, highly technologically advanced and well, eons beyond what we have. We think AI is crazy. You don't know what AI Angelic intelligence is capable of. Okay? I think that they had the capability to explore space, to colonize other planets, to settle other planets. I think Insectoids, Reptilians, the grays, all this shit, all these different categories are beings that were created by Satan himself for different various purposes before the flood. And I think they were off planet when the flood happened. And I don't think that they were wiped out. And I think that that might be what we're seeing coming back to Earth for whatever purpose they have at the moment. We'll get there. That's my big thesis. Because here's the thing. Hey, let's be real. According to the Bible, Satan can create life.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

And what are you referencing when you say that?

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

What do you mean? You don't you can't quote. You don't. You can't think of where Satan created life on this planet.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

I'm not saying it's not there. I'm just asking you. What scripture.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

No, yeah, what's the scripture?

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

What's a nephilim?

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

All right.

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[Ben of Venice the Menace]

What's an ephem. A nephilim is the sons of God coming down and creating nephilim. However that looks, you could. Dude, you could say it's. They had sex with them. Okay, that's weird. So fallen. So fallen angels have wieners and semen? I don't think that that's true. It literally says it's not flesh and blood, you know? Okay, so do they have some kind of technological ability where they're able to manipulate human genetics and alter it? Are you guys still there?

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Yeah, yeah. Like, if you look around today.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Cut out for a second.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

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[Ben of Venice the Menace]

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[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

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[Ben of Venice the Menace]

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[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

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[Ben of Venice the Menace]

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[Ben of Venice the Menace]

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[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

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[Ben of Venice the Menace]

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[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

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[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Oh, my God. Okay, hold on.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

All right, so where I'm about to go is. I can see that. That train of thought just given the idea of, like, nothing new under the sun. Like, I don't think the genetic manipulation that we're doing, like CRISPR technology, like that is inherently new.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

Is it creation, though?

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Oh, that's a good question. Somebody in the chat said it's more corruption than creation or inversion. Okay, so. So two points on that, Ben. Somebody in the chat brought it up. It's a good point that to say creation, it seems more of an inversion because I look at. At Satan as co opting, inverting, twisting, corrupting, predominantly.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

I. I agree. My point is, and it still stands, regardless of the mechanism, regardless how you want to define it, God did not create nephilim through whatever means he has access to the capabilities of. I don't. I don't know. I. I can't tell you this.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Well, the other thing I was going to say to. To kind of steel, man, your position is that if you look at what we're doing right now with genetic manipulation and crispr and things of that nature, you know, DNA splicing, gene splicing technology, I would say we're not doing that in a vacuum. That's not a. That's not a novelty. That's the reemergence of, of an old teaching, dude.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

So. So God alone has the capability to create out of nothing. Okay? Satan can take what is here and alter it to do his own will with. To create sentience, to create beings that God himself did not create. Do you think God created demons?

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[Ben of Venice the Menace]

I don't think so. If Enoch is correct, demons are the disembodied spirits of the nephilim. So those nephilim, the physical meat of the nephilim was not animated until Satan placed a demon in it. Did God create demons in the supernatural realm? I don't think God created demons in the supernatural realm. It sounds like he might even have the capability to do what he did here in the spiritual realm as well, and create demonic spiritual forces. Okay, I don't know. This is just speculation, right? I'm just, I'm talking out loud with two of my buddies. I'm tossing this theory out there because this helps me realize something. It helps me realize that Satan is way, way more capable of evil and of nefarious things than we've ever given him credit for. We've, as Christians, we've done such a disservice to explaining the supernatural. It's. It's silly, bro. We think demons are just like. Or Satan's just on your shoulder whispering naughties into your ear and making you, like, masturbate and look at pornography or. You know what I mean?

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

He's definitely doing that, though.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

He's definitely doing that. He's not only doing that.

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[Ben of Venice the Menace]

He's also waging an interdimensional, interplanetary, intergalactic. I don't care what words you want to freaking use. Technological, Technological, supernatural. I don't care what words use. He's waging a war with the benevolent supernatural forces. And we don't see it. We don't see it, but it is happening and we know it's happening. And we also have the Bible, which gives us insight into what he's capable of within the third dimension, and that is to take humans and to produce life that God never intended to exist on this planet. That's just chalk it up however you want.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

We had that moment recently. Matt Gates, I believe it's Matt Gates was talking about the hybridization program, now more and more prevalent. And that's something that we've been saying for a while. Right. So I'm tracking with everything you're saying this genetic modification, the, the point has been hybridization the entire time, whatever the means are. I don't have a, a way to look back in time and see definitively what's going on, but I can only phenomenon that's taking place today. And even inside the, the alien abduction gray phenomenon, you have the black eyed children. We talk about that a lot. And that does seem to involve some sort of insemination process. People that are abducted. You know, one person we talked to pretty often about it was Karen Wilkinson. And she from La Marzulli's team. She was a longtime abductee. Victim impregnated, gone to the doctor, confirmed pregnancy. All of a sudden one day, something's wrong. She goes, it's as if she was never pregnant at all. Dr. Can't figure it out. And then years down the line, she has another abduction experience. She's introduced to these kids. She inherently knows that they are hers, but there is something fundamentally wrong with them. And, and there's actually a really big show recently. Man, I wish I could remember the name of it, but it's big in the UFO community. It's kind of like a Danny Jones or there's another one that was like whichever one that Joe Rogan went on that was weird. A podcast that Rogan appeared on not too long ago. And he's talking about, you know, Jesus returning to AI maybe, or some crazy. Right. But it's like that high production value, really big show somehow slipped my awareness. And this guy is talking about a woman that approaches him and says, I'm looking for a little girl named maybe Sophia, who is the daughter of Sarah. And that little girl was the daughter of Mary Magdalene. And one thing leads to another. They end up bringing these people together. And when he goes to the woman Sarah and says, why would this lady be saying your daughter is the daughter of Mary Magdalene? She goes, I had an abduction experience.

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[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Or my daughter was ever born and, or conceived. And I was introduced to Jesus there. And Jesus told me, he introduced me, he said, I want you to meet somebody. And he introduces her to this little girl who has blue eyes and, you know, all these different features that are unique to her future daughter. So she ends up after this experience and meeting this little girl and loving on her and all this stuff later on, conceives, gives birth, little girl grows up to look exactly like this girl from that abduction experience. And in fact is, is, you know, named. She named her after that little girl. That's how profound this experience was. So, you know, this, what I'm getting at is this abduction experience is directly tying in not only to the hybridization thing, right, where it's part human, part something else, but it's also parasitically attached to the gospel, false gnostic gospel kind of a way.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Yeah, man. Yeah. I, I have no, I have no problem thinking that these things can.

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[Ben of Venice the Menace]

as anybody they want to, whether it's Mary Magdalene, whether it's Lazarus, whether it's even Jesus at times. Do you guys know Pastor Landon McDonald from Arizona?

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Not familiar with him.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Really cool guy. Check his stuff out as well. I was just on his show two days ago. But anywho, he talks about an exorcism experience that another pastor was having. So he's communicating with this other pastor. And the pastor describes this exorcism experience. When he asks the demon what his name is, he says, Jesus. And he's like, jesus. No, it's not. And he's like, yes, it is. My name is Jesus. And he's like, Jesus of Bethlehem. And he's like, oh, no, no, not that Jesus. So he would to. To confuse. And so chaos. This demon took on the name of Jesus. Probably more like Jesus, you know what I'm saying? And he has no problem using that name. That name doesn't necessarily. If you're not specific with which Jesus you're talking about, they can mimic the name. You know what I'm saying?

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Like, that's what he says. Test the spirits. You talk about Jesus living God.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Yes.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

And overcame death like that? Jesus. No. Okay.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

All right, dude. Exactly.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

The main story from. There's a guy that was, like, having sex. It sounds crazy, but there was a guy who was, like, having sex with Jesus or something like this. Yeah. He thought it was Jesus.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

No, well, Ryan. Something.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Yeah, I know you're talking. Yeah, it was a. It's a really hard listen, which to me makes it feel as though, you know, he's. I couldn't imagine the benefit of coming out and saying some super gay like that unless it was the truth and you were trying to share your testimony. And he basically says, like, yeah, this thing that was demonic was posing as Jesus. And then through some gnostic jibber jabber, convinced him that intercourse with him was the right thing. We are the bride of Christ, Right?

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Oh, my God.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

That's the worst ever intercourse with Jesus who appears as Jesus, but also appears as a dragon.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Tila Tequila said that?

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

She's Christian now, right?

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

She's crazy. And God bless. I don't know what's going on with Teal Tequila, but, yeah, that's actually somebody I'd be fascinated to talk to. She has had. I mean, she was running around screaming about, you know, the Illuminati trying to kill her and, you know, all this stuff way early. You know, she was like a MySpace star, so she was saying this stuff super early and her career tanked and. But, you know, it was. It was a long and grueling path for her, from what I understand. If she has come to the Lord, that's awesome. But I don't know if that's brutal. So. Yeah, yeah. My point is I've heard plenty of instances where a thing can pose as Christ.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Dude. Okay, so all. All of this to say, to come back to it. Satan has the capacity or the ability or his cohorts, the malevolent side, has the ability to do something with human genetics to produce things that they want to create. Okay. Not out of nothing. I'm not saying that. So the dude in the comment or the person in the comment earlier that said he just alters whatever's here. I agree. And the result of that alteration is a life force that God did not create. You know, so to think that he only did that one time. Well, we know he didn't because it says they were on the earth in those days. And after, okay, Moses and the spies encounter them. Joshua, David, they all encounter beings that are taller than normal, you know, who trace their lineage back to pre flood minglings, Cominglings, you know, the Anakim. All of it, bro. So. So they're able to do that before the flood and after the flood. Not only that, but I'll. Dude, I'll hit you with a few more. Hey, every single human civilization talks about. Well, I should say ancient human civilization. Talk about hybrid human animals, okay? So not only are they able to alter human genetics, in, in, in Genesis it says Jesus, God says that all flesh was corrupted and so all flesh needed to be wiped out by the flood. God didn't spare the animals. God didn't spare the vegetation. When Moses goes up, or he sends the spies up, right, to go peek over the hill and see what's going on in Canaan. And they come back with stories of giants. But that's not enough. They bring back evidence that two dudes are carrying a cluster of grapes across a pole on their back. A cluster of grapes. Look it up in the Hebrew if you want to. I'm autistic, so I did. A cluster means a cluster. It does not mean a vine. It does not mean a branch. It means one lump of grapes. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, if you use. If you use chatgpt and ask, hey, based on two dudes having to carry this thing on a pole and the size of regular cluster of grapes today, how much bigger were their clusters of grapes than our cluster of grapes? And it kind of does the math. And it says 1,000 to 3,000 times larger than our modern cluster of grapes.

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[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

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We're trying to figure out how to

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

reform and feed however many billions of people are in America. We got these chickens that are fat, gelatinous monstrosity, shout out to Tyson Foods.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Not my chickens.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Well, the ones that I had the other day that were frozen in the Tyson bag were discussing. So we're doing all kinds of genetic modification. We had Sean from Kingdom of Contacts on, he was talking about the main ingredient inside miracle growing is a compound called gibarellum which is specifically found in the. It's a growth regulating hormone in the roots of plants. And when it talks about, I think it's an Enoch that they taught the, the cutting of roots, right. You know, to the women and like makeup and such and then, you know, had giant children. But it's like the cutting of roots is actually spot on because in the roots is where you find this growth regulating hormone called gabarellum. And then when you think about homeboy becoming gibberim.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Exactly.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

So yeah, it's, it's all the same, but just a different modality now which is.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

So I'm glad you're putting these pieces together because that's kind of the, that's kind of the overarching theory here is we're doing this today.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Yeah.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

With our stupid autistic add brains, okay. We live 85, 90 years if we really push it, you know, and we're doing the exact same stuff. We're cloud seeding, we're vaccine everybody. We're injecting vaxes into all the animals. We're freaking altering the genetics of humans and vegetation. We're creating lab grown meat. We've got nanobot, dude. We're doing the exact same thing on a retarded level, okay? Now think about pre flood world, okay? With humans that just left the freaking garden. Perfect humans. God said that the humans in the garden were perfect. That's not me and you for all that we know, bro. Hey, Adam and Eve were probably like 15ft tall. Why would a perfect, why would a perfect human being that God just created out of nothing be 5, 9. That's. They can't even like reach the freaking fruits on the trees, you know what I'm saying? So these, these humans get kicked out of the garden and they're living 900 years, they're living 950 or 600 years. Hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years. They experienced God, the counsel of the Lord, all of their abilities and their technologies. In my opinion, in the garden, they had access to this stuff. They knew what it's about. When they get kicked out of the garden. There's an angel put at the gate in the east of Eden with the sword, right, which spins every which way. I don't think that the supernatural realm uses metal swords to like fight each other, you know what I'm saying?

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

There's actually an instance of in so inside dmt, experience testimony or whatever that these people will oftentimes be shown concepts, but also given technology that is incomprehensible and, and miraculous. But they, you know, obviously can never bring it back here. So whatever these ghoulish trickster entities are, which I, I think there's a good argument for them actually being demons. And when you do dmt, you're, you're, you know, removing that veil and seeing that realm 100. These technologies and people describe them as being, like I said, income incomprehensible and, and miraculous. But like, what does that look like? They, they never describe being handed some metal tool with, you know, filament and, and soldered wire to microchips and any of that. They're, they're handed something that's composition is a spiritual composition. So, you know, people kind of balk at that idea of this, you know, let's call it angelic technology. But I think we're just, we have a misunderstanding because technology in our estimation requires the refinement of ores into metal and all this other crazy dude.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Exactly. And it's like Rogan says, and this is just one of the things that he says that actually like makes sense and tracks not everything he says, obviously, but. And he'll, he'll attach this to ancient human civilizations that might have been technologically advanced. Okay. He says we have advanced, and I agree with this, we have advanced technologically in a very specific lane. Okay. Up until Franklin and electricity was discovered from ancient humans all the way until Franklin when electricity was discovered, all we did was make metal, stab each other and like farm that's it. That was technology, okay? Then we got steam, which kind of helped us like with industrialization, but until electricity came, which was what, like 240 years ago? Something like that.

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From the time a dude with the kite got struck by lightning to today where we're making artificial freaking gods, okay? Digital electronic gods. That's 240, 50 years, whatever, okay? But that's the path we went down. We went down electrical and we went down like silica based. We went down like computers and motherboards and stuff. That is not the only means of energy or technology in the universe or in the created order and higher dimensional realms as well. When Enoch says that the angels that came down gave humans technology, gave them weaponry, gave them music, gave them pharmacia, gave them root cutting, gave them all that crap, do you think that the malevolent angels sat up there and were like, dude, hey, Raphael, or whatever the dude's name is. We're gonna need to trade these guys for their women. Can you study up on like, can we do anything with this daisy over here? Like, can they use this in any way to get high or something? Can you figure out what we could do with that rock? Can we like sharpen and they can stab each other with it? Like what can. Or were they well aware and familiar with technology from their own perspective, from their supernatural realm where they use something in that dimension, which is technology to them, as common as a phone is to us. But if they bring that to us, we're like holy sorcery. Magic. I now have the means to see pictures and take your picture and capture your soul in the screen. And then I can communicate with somebody across the entire galaxy with this. That's magic to somebody or to us, it's radio waves. And we just figured out how to tap into that, you know what I'm saying?

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

From every people of antiquity attributes it. So you say like Edoc says that. Yeah, but so does every exactly of antiquity say that these things did this for them? You know, advancements in technology. And I just think that when we're dealing with the. The heavenly realms or the spiritual realms, wherever these things exist, we're not getting anything that doesn't exist in a much more advanced form where they are as like said spiritual principle as above, so below, it's kind of been hijacked by Satanists. But in reality, I think it does a really great job of describing this realm that we can't see and this realm that we inhabit and how they relate to one another. We all these systems Even government, you know, and government, technology, social systems, you know, building geometry, you name it, is I think, probably a watered down version of what they have access to. And it. It kind of makes sense because when. When God creates all this, I think it would mirror where he is in some way, shape or form. Right. It wouldn't. Totally, totally random. It would be like, well, we have this. Let's give them that. But in a. In a way that can fit into their. Their physical material.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

They took higher dimensional technology and catered it to the. Catered it to the third dimension.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Yeah.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

You see what I'm saying? Because you. We cannot. Based on the laws of this realm, this dimension, we cannot access the fourth dimension. Okay. But we sure can create things that mimic or access in a small way, that realm. Okay.

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[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Dude, there's scientists that say photosynthesis, the way that plants exist, requires a higher dimensional element because they can't explain how the energy gets transformed into a. Into the means that the plant can utilize to exist. The only way that's possible, according to modern science is if there's a higher realm. That's me. Something's happening here that's allowing something from the fourth dimension and Iraq down here to work out the way it does. It's insane. Look that up. That blew my mind.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Perceive it.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Yeah, man. So, hey, so you've got. From the time Adam gets kicked out of the garden, all right, these perfect humans, they're. Dude, they're not. You got to get this crap out of. Well, I needed to as well. We got to get this crap out of our head that they get kicked out of the garden and. And they're in a freaking loincloth, like, around a campfire.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Oh, yeah.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Just like shivering and. And then they're, like, digging in the ground for seeds to survive. That's not perfect humanity. That just.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

What did. That was the theory of evolution.

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[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Dude, exactly. Not only was Adam and Eve not. That was not caveman Neanderthal, okay? They were not that.

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[Ben of Venice the Menace]

They were able to probably, probably advance pretty quickly, you know what I mean? Even if they started from nothing, even if they started in a loincloth, they just got kicked out and they're like, well, shit, what do we do with all this, with all this vegetation? We need to build a habitat. We need to survive. We need to. Right? That's what the human brain naturally goes to. Now imagine the perfect human brain, one that can use all of its capacity, right? Because we know we don't use all of our brain. This has been proven. So imagine one that can. What do you think that would look like? Over a hundred years? Over 200 years. Probably pretty badass, you know what I'm saying? Especially if they have a category in their mind for advanced technology because they experienced it in the garden, bro, you think that there's an angel at the gate of the garden going like this, like to keep them out?

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Yeah.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Hell no. You think that the tree, well, not you. I'm just speaking hyperbolic. You think that the tree of knowledge, of good and evil, or the tree of Life was a seed God had to plant and then like it grew and there was branches and photosynthesis occurring and root systems that need water or else it dries out and there's a, a fruit hanging off that branch that once you eat it, boom, Suddenly you learn what bad, what evil is. I, I don't think so. I think that that was probably a means of technology. I think that the tree of life, which I think the tree of Life, which they had to partake of in order to live forever. That's what it says. Let us remove them from the garden or else they will partake of the tree of life and live forever. Even after they sinned, if they were to eat of the tree of life, they would live forever. You know what I'm saying? They had to keep eating of this tree to either heal their bodies or reset their bodies or whatever. Whatever that tree did, they had to continue to eat it. They were not created immortal, but they would get immortality when eating from this tree. Okay, and in my opinion, probably not a seed, probably not an apple, probably not a tree with photosynthesis with a fruit that gives you eternal life, probably a technology. But what's the way that you describe a technology? When Moses writes Genesis, does he have the category in his brain for technology and advancement and electricity or supernatural technology from higher dimensions? Probably not. So he iterates this. This concept in a way that he knows how. There's a tree with the fruit, they eat it, they live forever. Point proven. He doesn't need to get into the details. You know what I'm saying? He needs to make the. He needs to make the point that there was something God commanded them not to do, and they did it. There was something that they would eat of and they would live forever. And we need to remove them from the garden or else they'll live forever. You know, again, I know I'm. I know I'm reaching. I know I'm reading between the lines. But the. The words of the Old Testament, when dealing with the supernatural, in my opinion, often the author is doing his best to describe what he's either seen in a vision or what was revealed to him. Because guess what? Moa. Moa, Jason Momoa was not in the garden. Hey, Moses was not in the garden of Eden. Moses wrote Genesis. Moses wrote the account of Adam and Eve. Moses wrote the account of Abraham. Moses wasn't there to see Abraham's day. Moses didn't see the Nephilim. Moses didn't see the flood. Moses didn't see. And he's the one that writes all of it, so he probably saw visions of it. You know what I'm saying? And how do you describe what you see in the vision that you can't articulate? Because you don't have. You don't have the words, bro. You don't have the category to describe what you're. What you're seeing. It probably sounds a lot like revelation where he's like. And it looked like this and it looked like that and it looked like this, and it might have just been a helicopter. When he's describing the tale of a scorpion with wings, I actually do the,

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

the trees in the garden probably did bear resemblance to a tree. Just given the as above so below principle. You know, there's probably some element of it that really. Only because. Well, not only because, but it becomes more interesting when you start looking at other mythologies. Idrasil tree. Right. In, in Norse mythology, you have the Irminsul tree in Germanic mythology, the Bodhi and Ashvada trees in Hindu mythology. And, and a lot of these by the way, goes on Gianmu in, in Chinese. This tree typically is the, the mode of travel. That's interesting too, that overlap from the heavenly realms to the earthly realms. And these, these gods would have used it. So I'm not saying that they're correct in their understanding of it. What I'm saying is that theme of describing it as a tree over and over again, I wouldn't be surprised, in other words, to one day have it revealed to us. You know, we, we go to heaven and God bothers to show us this thing and we go like, oh, it is a tree. I mean, it's unlike any other.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Hey, hold up. It literally says in Revelations that the tree of life will be planted on both sides of the river. Okay. Or the stream coming out from under the throne of God. Something along those lines in the New

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Jerusalem, which is a rejuvenation for the nations. Right?

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Yes. Which is a big ass cube, okay. That is seated upon the earth. It's God's dwelling place is what it's called. And in there, in this big ass cube are the trees of life. There's multiple now, okay? And guess what the, guess what the nations have to do probably to live forever. They probably, they have to come and partake of it. Just like Adam and Eve had to do regularly. I don't know how often the chat

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

says maybe it was a portal. So that's what I'm saying. Like, I think there is something to it. Like you would find that like a tree, you know, on earth, it has its leaves and branches in the sky and it's, it's, you know, it's. What the hell is the name of that thing? Not the, not the roots. What's between the leaves and the roots? The trunk. The trunk. Thank you. I kept wanting to say stump, but that's a chopped up one. The stump exists, you know, on the surface where we exist. And then it's. Its roots are you know, underground or in the underworld. And so just given that principle, like, yeah, this thing probably exists on Earth because there are. They do exist in heaven. It's just, this is a fully blown spiritual heavenly tree. And I think we would probably. So what I'm saying is, like, when they saw this in these visions, when Moses saw this, like, he's probably right on. Like, it probably is a tree. It probably does bear fruit. Just going back to that conversation we had where it's like, yeah, there's so many things here that we experience that are watered down, three dimensional, like you said, versions of things that exist outside of time and space and outside of our physical materialistic realm. So we probably would see and be like, it's like a tree, dude.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

It can't. It can be. I'm not ruling that out entirely, but I'm also saying that it could be his best attempt at describing a technology which was otherwise not explicable with his words 5,000 years ago, or whatever it is, you know, and regard. Hey, even if it is a tree, okay, it gives you eternal life. Pharmaceuticals today are a technology, okay? We've, we've cultivated the plants and the herbs and the chemicals and the. In a way, using technology that results in healing or pain relief or whatever. I don't know. Fill in the freaking blank. Right? So even if that tree is a real thing, like an actual physical tree with a stump and the roots and the branches, right. It doesn't preclude it from being a technological device. Yeah, okay. Just like pharmaceuticals are today.

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[Ben of Venice the Menace]

And dude, from the time Adam left or was exiled from the garden to the time of the Watchers. If you. It's hard to calculate. You can ask GPT any other. Even other people that wrote on this about 500 years are said to have elapsed about give or take some. Okay, from Adam to the, to the watchers coming down. 500 years, bro. You've got people living 900 years. Eight. And they're banging, okay. They're reproducing. There's some estimates that at the time of the flood There was around 14 billion people on the earth. Some estimates, okay, that's at the time of the flood. We're talking now. 1500 years from Adam's exile from the garden for 500 years reproduction booming. Watchers come down and take the daughters of men. That's within 500 years. Then from the time of the watchers coming down and taking daughters of men to the time of the flood, 1000 years. About. Give or take a thousand years, dude, of people reproducing technology, interdimensional, highly advanced angelic AI. Angelic intelligence on the freaking Earth. Could you imagine what we would do with 1000 years of AI on the planet? Like we're just starting to get AI project a thousand years into the future. We are cooked. You know what I'm saying? Now imagine 1000 years of divine intervention. Not only technologically, but freaking half God, half human hybrids. These also were not giants with a freaking club on their back and a loincloth going, me take Jane. Me bang Jane. That is not perfect. Human and fallen son of God commingling and producing offspring. That is not what that looks like. These were freaking kings, bro. These were rulers. These guys were highly, highly advanced and sophisticated, you know what I'm saying? Probably borderline tapped into the higher dimensions constantly because they're half. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

You can have human beings who are in a meditative state and they're communing with the spiritual realm. Whether it's the, the positive or the negative aspect of the spiritual realm. I would say then, yeah, there's a high likelihood that these entities, Nephilim would have either. I mean at the bare minimum, just as strong connection. But you can make an argument, maybe a stronger one because

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

I would say probably much stronger. You know, that they're. The argument's much stronger that they had some sort of connection or ability to their daddies, you know, swinging that daddy meat, if you want to make that shirt. But, but 1,000 years of this on the Earth, okay, you, the, the, the The Bible will say that all flesh was corrupted, okay? That means all flesh not only means humans, it also means animals. Right? Because a couple verses later, after it says all flesh was corrupted, God says, I will destroy all flesh, and then goes on to destroy humans and animals. Okay? Except for what's on the Ark. He spares. He saves those. So within a thousand years, the whole planet is altered. The whole planet is taken over by Satan and the Nephilim and his cohorts. The whole planet has been genetically modified. The whole planet. It says every intent of man's heart was evil all the time. That's where their technological advancement for a thousand years leads.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

That's a crazy statement. Every was evil all the time.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Pure evil, constantly. It says the Earth was filled with violence, okay? Pure evil, bro. What a coincidence. Every single time we advance technologically in any domain whatsoever, math, pharma, bio guns, all we try to do is make weapons and kill somebody else.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Yeah.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

So is it a surprise that the Earth was filled with violence? No, because that's probably what they use their technologies for, too. Is it a surprise that Atlantis and all the other mythological ancient techno, highly advanced technological civilization, all end up with war and killing each other? Even in Enoch it says that the Nephilim started killing each other. And this was. I think it's Nina. This was a curse on the sons of God that they would have to watch their offspring kill each other.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Right?

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

You know what I'm saying? So to me, these are all signs of highly advanced, technologically advanced civilizations before the Flood and for a thousand years, man on the Earth and their starting point, technologically, was Fallen angel tech. Now extrapolate for a thousand freaking years. It's not a surprise to me that all flesh was corrupted. That's what we're trying to do now. You know what I'm saying? Take whatever we're doing now, whatever aspirations we have now add a thousand years to it and Fallen angel technology and knowledge to it, and Nephilim added to the mix and let me know where we end up.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

What do you think about the idea that any physical form that these aliens, you know, and the whole pantheon of them that they're taking in modern day is. I mean, maybe there's some remnant, right? Could be some remnant that survived the Flood. But I think that given the way mankind is inspired by these spiritual beings to create technology, or given the way that certain. Not even just advancements in technology, advancements in practices, right, so like agriculture being given to you by some lowercase g God isn't necessarily Them teaching you how to build a thing, but them teaching you how to conquer or, or, you know, express dominion over the land and aggregate for crops and such. I think a lot of the methods that come out of MK Ultra and understanding how to like, fracture the brain and disassociative states, I think that likely came by way of channeling entities who, you know, express this thing. I mean, even stupid shit like chiropractic came from a seance. If you look that up, they.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Damn, really.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Yeah, yeah. So I don't think it's out of the realm of possibilities. So I think that when it comes to the gene splicing, you don't necessarily need an angel, a fallen angel coming down and doing anything. You just need this thing whispering into the ears of man to inspire them. This is. This thing has been revealed to you. This is how you do this, this is how you do that. And I think that that probably fits pretty well into the category of genetic manipulation, hybridization, things like that. To find out, let's say that you, you're somebody who studies this thing and you have the means and the resources, the money to fund your expeditions, and you think you have it on very good authority. Yeah, they were hybridizing human beings with things in the past. Now something's got you, you're on its radar. It now begins to commune with you. Yeah, yeah, this is what was happening. This is how you do it. This is how you do it. And this, you know, you have somebody in a lab who's failing over and over again, but has this steady flow of information. You know, my favorite example is, what the hell is his name? The, the guitarist who channels Metatron.

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Carlos.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Carlos Santana. Yeah. Carlos Santana is in a Time magazine interview saying that he channels Metatron music. So of course the same thing could be happening and is happening in, in laboratories and things of that nature. So you have somebody who's tapped in who's trying and trying and trying and getting a steady stream of information. They don't give a. About where it's coming from. You know what I mean? But this thing is rights to them, access to them for whatever kind of spiritual transgressions they might have participated in. One thing leads to another. You got Jack Parsons, you know what I'm saying? And, and Jack Parsons doesn't need to ever have anything outside of a whole. Not a hallucinatory, but maybe a drug induced state where he visualizes these things but they're not giving him, they're not telling him, put your hands here and there. Instead, he's he's channeling. They're working through him. So I think that Insectoids, tall, you know, Nords, whatever, the Grays, obviously they would have been created by way of that same hybridization thing, like the. Like the Nephilim. Unless they themselves are fallen. But I don't think so. I don't think they're exactly fallen angels. I think they would fit into the Nephilim category. They could be created by us in these deep underground bases, you know, for a long time you go back into lore, Jewish lore, and it's like, well, what is a homunculus? What is a golem? Right? What are they doing? They're creating something. And somehow some screwed up form of life is being breathed into it. I'm just wondering, do you think this ever required them to be there in a physical sense, these fallen? Or could this entire rendition this time really just be us?

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Well, dude, I will say, when it comes to clones, they've never been able to animate a human clone. We could grow fingers, bones, skin, hearts, brain tissue. There's something supernatural divine required to animate flesh. You know, in my opinion, that's why Satan needed to be able to create the demonic spirit, because that is the animating essence, the animating force that was necessary to put within the Nephilim's three dimensional genetics in order to animate it. You know what I'm saying? So I don't. I don't know today what we get via channeling and the technologies and the visions we get via channeling. Sure, you've got Carlos freaking Santanas screaming Maria. Maria. You know, Cool. Nice flex, Metatron. I don't know what that achieves, but you do have Parsons creating rocketry. You do have Steve Jobs getting a vision of the iPhone from an LSD trip. You do have not Epstein. What's the other really smart guy Einstein saying that he would wake up. And the theory of

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[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Excuse me.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

No, not. He had sex with his cousin. He married her. I thought that's what he was.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Oh, no, no, not. All right. I was gone. But hey, E equals MC squared. Theory of relativity. He said that he received that in a dream and he woke up and wrote it down. We have a lot of examples of our technological capability. Somehow it always comes back to technology, man. Super weird, right? Hey, our technological capabilities are nudged, okay? But that's quite different than Satan and his cohorts coming down genetically creating creatures that God did not create and then handing them. Handing them technology. I think that's. I think it's different. I think this is the best he can do now, all right, is to influence us with nudges. I don't think he has the authority anymore to come down and like take conquest of humanity. Not yet, at least.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

I think.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

I think we're getting there. I think we're getting there. And I'll give you an example. Sorry to interrupt. I'll give you an example. We know this. And this was kind of where I want to end up in 50 minutes. We know this. I'm not dispensational anymore, okay? I don't believe. One of the big tenets of that is that biblically speaking, there's going to be a literal 1000 year reign of Christ where he comes back, slays the Antichrist and the beast or whatever, and then sets up a throne in Jerusalem and rules and reigns with the Jews for a thousand years. I don't believe that anymore. I used to. Now I believe the Bible very clearly teaches this. Since the resurrection is the millennial reign, we are in a divine kingdom where Christ is currently ruling. He has not taken full dominion, but what he is doing is he's taking home his children. Throughout the. Throughout the nations, he says right before his ascension, he says, all authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. So therefore, as a result of getting this power. Which is weird, I thought he's God. Okay? As a result of getting this power, therefore go out and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. That's his command to the apostles. And then he beams up, right? Never in the Bible were the people of God ever commanded to go out and take the nations back for God. Ever. It was Israel that was God's allotment according to Deuteronomy 32, where the sons of God were allotted their inheritance, the nations were divvied up to the sons of God. Read Deuteronomy 32 if you don't believe me. The nations belonged to Satan. Then Christ comes and it up for Satan, not for God. Takes starts to take the nations back, as is promised repeatedly through the Old Testament. He will inherit the nations. He will take the nations. The nations will be blessed. He literally promises Abraham before ever creating Israel. All nations of the earth will be blessed in you. Okay, well I thought they belonged to Satan. They do now, but I'm going to take them back. And that's where we're at now. We've been in this kingdom of Christ that's been spreading over the face of the earth and we've been taking the nations back since the resurrection. So for almost 2,000 years. But then Revelation says there's coming a time where Satan will be released for a little while. This is Satan's little season. It's been co opted. I'll get there for a little while. He'll be released for one specific task. To deceive the nations again. Okay, that means the nations were deceived. The nations all worshiped. Fallen angels. All of them. That is all of, that's the, the unifying thread through all of them is that beings from somewhere else came to them, made themselves known and humanity started worshiping them. Okay, We've gotten away from that through the spread of Christianity since dude, the Catholic Church, whatever, they had their, they had their troubles, right? They still do. But you know what they were really good at? Hey? Killing demon worshipers and then establishing Christianity in that territory. I give that a thumbs up. Okay? Since the Enlightenment where everything kind of went naturalistic and everything's evolution and everything's natural, there's no more supernatural. All that's gone since then. Europe is extremely atheistic. Europe used to be the, the hub of Christianity. The Middle east, full blown Islamic, like they're cooked right?

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South America going super pagan and starting to do all sorts of weird voodoo stuff. Like, it's almost. I, I won't say that Christianity's losing, but a lot of the bastions of Christianity have gone back to demon worship. Okay. And I think that culminates the cherry on top of all of this that seals this deal where the nations get deceived again is going to be this alien stuff. I think that's where exactly where this goes is the nations become deceived once again, and then the very next thing it says is that the nations are deceived and they come against the saints of God and against his holy city. So that's where this leads, in my opinion. Is the world coming against Christianity? Okay. Why do you think that they're warning whether it's Juberg or whether it's the, the pastors that had meetings with those CIA guys or whatever they were. Why do you think they all say Christians are in trouble? This is, this is going to affect Christianity in particular. Some will use the word religions. Some specifically state that Christianity is going to be shaken by this. Not Islam, not Buddhism. Buddhism, Buddhism, Hinduism, atheism.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Shout out to Buddhism, though.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

I'm all about the Buddhism 8, but not atheism. How is atheism not going to be shocked or, or rocked by this? There's literally things appearing from the sky. How. How are those not gods?

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Well, I guess, yeah, that's. That's a weird thing where atheist atheism is somehow okay with the idea of, like, extraterrestrials because they fall within a scientific category and can be explained scientifically. But there will be a falling away, right? I mean, that's, that's to be expected. That's what I'm looking at when I see this big thing on the horizon, you know, disclosure, the point of it is to shake people's face. So those guys aren't wrong. It's, it's just that they're talking about a type of Christian who's not familiar with any of the things that we've discussed here in this episode, which is a shame if you're one of those. But there is something else that's happening. We, we kind of joked about at the top of the show this idea of like, you know, the big, the big Jew issue. And when you look at everybody getting upset about the Jews, that has led to a pretty natural conclusion, which is, well, hey, Jesus was a Jew, therefore Christianity, and Jesus is a Jewish psyop. The Abrahamic religions are all just a Jewish psyop, which is, you know, they all get bundled together like they're the

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

same thing, or that the Jews wrote

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

the Bible, the Jews wrote the Bible, any of the things. And what that's given rise to is, is paganism in a huge way. And the paganism is also spurred on by all of the race war that's going on. So, you know, they've weaponized different races against each other for generations and, you know, kind of pulled them apart and, and chipped away at them and made them terrible and, you know, use their own proclivities against them to create, you know, this, this massive division. So now when you have, let's say this is a little bit of a departure from what we're talking about, but this Carmelo Anthony case is, you know, it's making black people hate white people and it's making white people hate black people because for obvious reasons, so now there's this white nationalist thing. You can move towards Christ because that's. The Christian nationalism thing is being brought up. But if you're conspiracy bented and you're, you're seeing what the Jews are doing, well, then you might fall into Jesus is a psyop. So where does that leave you then? Well, where that leaves you is Germanic and Nordic paganism, you know, where, where now you have a white identity. And it's in opposition not only to all the, the races that are pitted against the white man, you know, yada, yada, and destroying the country. This is the narrative. But also it is liberating yourself from the Jews who are creating all the race wars and their psyop, which is Jesus Christ in the Bible. So therefore it makes sense to be so. And then of course, whatever these entities are, are going to work really well superimposed over pagan ideology, the pagan entities of the past, the pagan gods of the past, are these things returned. Christianity is a sham. Bada bing, bada boom.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Yeah, man. I mean, listen, Chris Bledsoe says that he encounters Hathor, right? On a regular day base, or not regular day, but on a regular basis.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

And it's in there for Christianity too, because it also identifies itself as the Holy Spirit. And, and so there's also this way that it appears that is reminiscent of Mary Magdalene. There's all kinds of elements, Ishtar, Isis. It's every name that you can think of. A little bit of everything for everybody.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Yeah, yeah. And, and this to me is. That's the trajectory of this whole thing, okay? Whatever they are, demons, aliens, orbs, spaceships, Satan, Nephilim, it doesn't matter, insect aloids, that is the entire force, the entire army of Satan that he is probably unifying towards this final battle, towards this recapture of this planet. Okay? If these things existed before the Flood, okay? So for a thousand years they're on the planet the Nephilimore. We so again, take whatever we're doing, whatever aspirations we have, times them by a thousand, sprinkle in Nephilim and fallen angel tech and go, okay, if we have aspirations, Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, Virgin Galactic, all these. If we have aspirations to go explore the stars and mine other planets and set up colonies on Mars. You don't think that the ancient human civilizations that all worshiped the stars, you don't think if they had the capacity to go explore the galaxies and other planets, they literally thought their gods came from there. You don't think that they freaking developed craft and got off planet to go see what's up. You don't think that they developed spaceships? Bob Lazar literally says on. On Joe Rogan, he. That's the video I wanted to pull up, but I think that's what crashed my, my stream earlier.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

I might have seen this already. Is this about the documents?

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

I'll send it to you. Yeah. Jeremy Corbell, Bob Lazar and Joe Rogan. I'll send you the video. I'll tell you where to timestamp it so people could watch it. Okay, Bob Lazar literally says at the facility where he was working, okay, he's been validated. I don't care what anybody else says.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

S4.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Yes, at S4. I believe it's on S4. He either over here overhears or is told directly that the craft they are working on trying to reverse engineer and understand Came from an archaeological dig. This was not something witnessed that came and fell in Las Vegas and then scary green men came out of it. Okay. This is something that was discovered by dudes in freaking. You know, the, the hats they wear in Egypt when they're brushing archaeological artifacts and they have their little cut off shorts and shit, you know, while they're digging pottery and stones and bones. There's a freaking spaceship, bro. A UFO made of metal, I don't know, buried in the archaeological dig. And somehow it ends up at S4 and Bob Lazar's reverse engineering it. Yeah, this is buried with artifacts from. I, I didn't. He doesn't expand on when those were dated. When were those dated? How many thousands and thousands and thousands of years ago were those artifacts dated? In my opinion, the dude. Oh my God. The great. The three greatest pyramids in Giza. The Great Pyramid and the other two. The oldest, the most advanced, the most sophisticated, the ones we can't explain. The ones that you can't slide a piece of paper between the rocks. The ones that all other pyramids in Egypt are modeled off of, but in like a hunky dory just cobbled up kind of way, because they're replicas. But the oldest, most advanced, the ones we can't explain with all our technology, all our AI, all our technological advancements, we have no idea how they were built, we have no idea how they were used. They were not tombs. There was never a single mummy found in any of these three. There were mummies found in the other replicas because they were trying to emulate what they thought the gods were using these for. Right. Those pyramids, in my opinion, are pre flight. I think those are evidences of highly advanced ancient technology from before the flood that survived. You know why they survived? Because the water couldn't move the stones because they're really big. Okay? And so even though I do believe the whole earth was underwater, I don't think that the cataclysm was equally as violent all over the planet. I think everything was buried underwater or submerged underwater. But I think certain parts of the world, you see this, you see megalithic stones sprawled out over the whole countryside. But then in Egypt, you see similar megalithic stones still stacked like a pyramid. So that leads me to believe that the violence was harsher in other parts of the world. You know what I'm saying? And there's water erosion on the Sphinx that is not accountable by with rainfall. There's water erosion on the pyramids. Rainfall doesn't account for it. Okay? To me.

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And then, dude. And then you get into like Chris Dunn's Giza power plant theory. Yeah, yeah. Where dude, look it up. I'm telling you guys, this stuff's so incredible, man. Chris Dunn is an engineer and he speculates based on the exact size measurements, ratios of the pyramids, of the chambers within the pyramids, and the size of the chambers and the tunnels and the angles and the this and that, he's accurately able to predict what's behind other rocks within the pyramid. Within the Great Pyramid. He was accurately able to predict based on the idea that hey, this is probably a power source because if you mix these chemicals which we see sediments of. I'll send you the video so you could link it. You see these sediment layers inside the king's chamber and it's made up of this particular chemical residue. If you mix those two, they create a reaction that produces energy. And then based on the other chambers where that would lead, that would cause the whole pyramid to pulse. We're talking about 2, 2 million, over 2 million stones. We're talking about hundreds of millions of tons to pulse in a way that would create a power source. So he calls it that. He's a power plant theory, right. People wave him off as a kook. He's able to accurately predict what's behind other stones based on this theory. So that when they carve out a hole to send a robot through to go see what's in the next chamber. He's correct. It's another chamber with another door. It's going to have these measurements because that would be required for the power, power plant to work. You see what I'm saying? So he reversed engineered what it's used for. Bro. We can't do that today with all our advancements, with all our. We can't move one of those freaking stones, okay?

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Never mind a megalithic power plant.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Megalithic freaking power plant, bro. We can't do. We literally can't. We can't move one of those stones with all of the cranes that we have, bro. You're telling me sunburnt slaves in loincloths with ropes move those 500 miles and aligned 2 million plus stones perfectly, perfectly due north.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Aren't they also on a, on a, on a ley line? Like they're. This is the same thing with, with these megalithic structures. You can, even though they're across continents, supposedly you can track them. They, they line up, they're on the same ley lines. So there's this idea of like an energetic power grid that you can tap into that is the Earth's, you know, frequency, whatever, Schumann's resonance and that you can sort of tap in, harness that and, and amplify it with these megalithic structures. And then their, their construction is all very similar, despite being separated by oceans and, and, you know, vast spaces. So. And what do they all have in common? They all have in common that they have this pantheon of gods.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Yeah, man. Hey. And now we've got. You've seen those, those photos or the research that's come down, come out with the scans showing those monstrous coiled pillars going down to the freaking bedrock, hundreds and hundreds of meters below the surface, right? These served a purpose. They were not tombs. Anybody that believes these were tombs is a retarded person. You probably also believe that the entire universe in all existence exploded out of the head of a needle. You know what I'm saying? This is the kind of retardation that it takes for you to believe that that's a tomb for a mummy. In my opinion, these were highly advanced means of energy that were pre flood survivors. Okay? That's what that is. To me, I think the Egyptians, bro, this is literally what the Egyptians say themselves. The ancient documentation from the Egyptians says that they found them.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Yeah, with the Inca in, in Peru. They said they found, they found them as well.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Exactly, bro. They. So, dude, think about it. You've got Noah. The flood just happens. They get off the freaking boat. They get off To a world. The door opens to the boat, right? They go out, take a breath of fresh air. It doesn't smell like animal crap anymore, bro. They look around. Wasteland.

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[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Nothing. Everything's gone. Everything's gone, bro. All the vegetation they knew. Do you realize how much of as it vegetation we probably lost? How many species we probably lost?

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Hybridization cooked.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Okay. How many animals we lost? Dude, I'm just saying the world they walked out onto was nothing like the world that they just left that they were just experiencing a few months ago. You know what I'm saying? They freaking make a fire and are, like, probably huddled together, dude. Who knows? 8. I wouldn't be surprised if they brought some technologies with them on the boat. It's not like they did, you think, on the boat before the flood happened. You think he brought like a. A flint knife to, like, cut logs or something? I guarantee you he used the technology that was available to him. I bet you anything they brought some stuff with them on the boat. They're sitting around the campfire like, oh, my God, what do we do? They have to build a house. They have to find food. They need to start farming. The first thing he does is plant a vineyard, get freaking smashed, you know, it's likely he didn't even know fermentation was a thing. He might have gotten drunk on accident.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

It's also pretty understandable why he became,

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

like, an alcoholic, like, instantly. You know, that's the first thing he does. But as they're sitting around, they start making babies, they start building houses, they start building a little town, right? They're sitting around with their grandkids and their freaking little grandkids or great grandkid or great, great, great, great, great grandkid, because they still lived hundreds of years are on their laps, and they're like, daddy, tell me about the world before the flood. This is all they've known. All they've known is this disastrous planet of nothingness. You know what I'm saying? Noah Shem and his freaking sons and their. Their wives are like, it was incredible. You have no idea. You see that mountain over there? I could push a button and that mountain would be carved up into rocks, and then I could stack it over there and the food would just grow. And you don't think they described the world before the flood to their grandkids? Yeah, you know what? I'm. I would do that. I literally talk about from a week ago with, like, my friends to think

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

about, like, you know, so like, the Nazis and their bell UFO and. And that. That's just a throwback from the, like, they. They unearthed that from, like, the Vedic bananas. That was all. I mean. Yeah. It's a wild thing to think about.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

I know. Would you describe.

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[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

And it's a fallen state.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

That's like. Sometimes I go back and forth, I'm like, is what a cool world? But also not at all.

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The darkness from the light. We're talking about extrapolations upon extrapolations of separating darkness and perverting whatever, what has already been created. I. I'm like. When I. When I hear Albarino talking about it, like. And this is. This is all the way back to the. To the original argument that we had with him was, like, fascinating. What about the light? We don't know about the light, but we're going to talk about insectilens with and, and cows. You know, with all due respect. What about the light? We can't figure that. As a matter of fact, Satan can't figure that out. That's been. This entire thing here. We've been going in circles about how do we create something. Well, Satan is the darkness create that's separated from the light. That's what feeds the tree of good and of, of knowledge. Of good and evil.

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That's what we're working with. Humans been tainted with that. We've been tainted with that darkness and tainted even more so in the pre Diluvian period. And then afterward. And we're about to do it again and we're so fascinated looking at the darkness. Like, like you were just mentioning the, the, the Giza, like the, the pyramid in Giza and those coils that go to bedrock. And it's like, how fascinating. And then you also mentioned it was just buried underwater.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

That's the light.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

Isn't that crazy?

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

That is. That's an interesting contrast. Yeah.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

Because I, I can't get it out of my head.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

The light is real simple. Yeah.

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[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

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[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

And then they buried him deeper.

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[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Well, that's what we found. We're gonna do it again.

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[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Probably correct. Hey. Hey. And darkness, though.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

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[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

And I'm gonna continue doing what I'm doing until they cut my head off. That's the separation. The people that are going to lose their faith are probably going to be the ones that are scared, which is why the Bible continues.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Right.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

You fear not. But that's really all this is about. It's a separation of light and darkness and it's, it's a continual process. We can continue to look at the darkness and extrapolate on how dark it can Get. And what can we do if we mix this dark with that dark, but we can't create light. That's the one thing that we're missing. But what we can do with the light is look at it and go towards it. You know, that was the premise of the, the thing that we had with Albarino. I think at its heart, I wish I could have expressed it better that way, but it's just like, yeah, this is a waste of time. Somebody, somebody confronted him at a lua. I thought it was a bit unfair. They're like, you don't talk about Jesus Christ. He does.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Yeah, he does, he does.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

But, but the point that I just made right there is exactly what everybody that feels that way about Tim is getting at. In a way.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

I, I get, I get it. Top. I, I totally get it. And I agree with you all focus. Always Jesus, all the time. All roads lead to Jesus, right? Or should. I think it's two conversations though. Okay? We can have a nuanced conversation about what the Bible says regarding the dark side. You know what I mean? Because Christians have not had this conversation. And that's why we're on our back foot right now trying to make sense of what the hell is coming and what the stupid government is disclosing and what Fox News is talking about. Because we haven't elaborated on what scripture says or allows for. Even, okay, maybe if it doesn't say it allows for, that's the cat. That's the category of person that's going to be deceived or whose faith is going to be shaken. If we can put words to it, if we can use the Bible to describe what may be going on, what we may be seeing in this reality, it does not take away at all. Christ is king. Christ is the son of God, died for our sins, forgave him, rose again on the third day. Salvation by faith in Christ, it doesn't take away from that at all, at all. But what I fear and the reason I want to put words to what's actually happening right now is because not only will there be a great falling away, David, like you said earlier of Christians, it's not non Christians that fall away, it's. It's believers that fall away.

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Okay, what I'm afraid of is that the vanilla version of Christianity that has been adopted within evangelicalism, which is called dispensationalism. Okay, what I'm afraid of is that that is being used right now as a piece of the puzzle in Satan's kind of last, last war on this planet. I feel like dispensationalism has brought Christianity to the point where the world is ripe for the taking and for the great deception that needs to be unleashed according to Revelation 20. And so part of that is because we have not focused on or explained this kind of stuff well, you know, and the disp side just wants to say it's just demons, but it doesn't help us move the ball when the stuff we're physically seeing happening is not a demon according to the Bible. You know what I'm saying? The conversation, then after you, after you lay the groundwork of what we're actually watching happen or what we're witnessing appearing or the fact that it may be technological, once you are okay with that as a Christian, it does not change the fact that Jesus comes back and wages war on these bastards and wipes them freaking out. It doesn't change the fact that Jesus wins and we win. Even if we die, we win. This doesn't matter. This doesn't matter. You know, living is not the goal. It wasn't Christ's goal when he was on the earth. It wasn't the apostles goal. It wasn't any of the early church's goal. So when you want to talk about a preacher of rapture, which, hey, just so you know, abductions are technological, right? The dark side has the ability to rapture your ass at will whenever they want. And Christians, some Christians have been raptured according to Karen and others, okay, if that technology advances a little bit more, where they can abduct more people at once, I wonder if people are going to think that that was the Rapture. I wonder what that's going to do to people's faith. You know what I'm saying? But if we can articulate, hey, these technologies exist. We've seen them before in human history, before the Flood. God wiped it out. These technologies are coming back and so are the forces that were there before the Flood. And they're going to utilize these technologies in a similar way to deceive the nations again, According to Revelation 20, and to war against the saints. I think think it helps at least to help me. Bro, I can only speak for myself, okay? At least it helps me prepare for what's coming. And it helps me honestly focus on Christ more. Because I realize the only solution is Christ. It gets so bad that that's why he returns. He returns because Satan and his cohorts with their technology and are waging war on the saints. I heard this one, pastor, and then I'll let you speak. Sorry to rant. Hey, I heard this one pastor on Instagram. He's like, oh, if you want a telltale sign that Christ is about to return, focus on the Jews, focus on Israel, because it says that all Israel will be saved. So when you see a mass revival in Israel, know that God's. Know that Christ's coming is around the corner. Okay, maybe, but how about where it says that Satan deceives the nations again and brings them to war against the saints and the holy city? How about mass persecution of the Christian as a sign that Christ is around the corner? How about that? You know what I'm saying? For me, it's been a big help to be able to put words to what we're seeing and what we're being told is happening and to interpret it through what the Bible allows, you know? But I do agree, if we had two more hours, we could go from this theory that they got off planet before the flood and they maybe colonized and mined other planets, and that might be what we're seeing coming back right now. And even the different species, because insects are good at burying or burrowing, so that they were, the Nephilim genetically modified them to make insectoids to go harvest minerals for their advanced technology. Sure. That in and of itself is not salvation. It's not Jesus. But it leads me to Jesus because I realize, holy crap, Satan is way bigger than I thought. He's just not. He's not Just in my ear, telling me to watch that Instagram video of the Buddhists or whatever I said earlier, you know what I'm saying? That's not his role. There's something way, way, way bigger happening, and I'm afraid it's culminating right now and that certain portions of Christianity are playing a part in that. So that's why earlier I said, I want this to lead to the end times discussion, because that's where I think we are. You know what I'm saying?

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

You know that you, you mentioned that pastor meeting with the. They're like ex military guys or whatever, had some information, and one of the things that did a lot of dumb came out of that. And, and we've. We kind of beat that to death on this show. And, and, you know, we've talked about what actually happened there. And. But something good did come out of it, and it was this expression that was used, or at least so I've heard that this conversation we just had is very similar to the conversation that was had there. And they called it the weeds. You know, this is the weeds. We're in the weeds. We're trying to almost display that Christianity is not at all unarmed against the ability to understand this phenomenon. Not at all. And the, and that does not mean that the phenomenon is reductive or simplistic. In some ways it is, but if you really want to get into the minutiae, it is getting into the weeds. But ultimately, what happens?

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

What, what happens when, when Peter takes his eyes off Christ? It's a question I've been, I've been mulling over a lot lately as well. It's like, is he in the weeds? And then where did he go? Yeah, he slips into that primordial ooze of the chaotic waters. And it's like, am I, am I doing that with the show? I mean, with, like, when we talk about aliens, we'll bring some fact. But, like, I try my best to, like, just take the. Out of it, because it's like, yeah,

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

yeah, like, beat it up. Laugh at it.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

Yeah, yeah, I, I'm trying to be a little more careful with that lately.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Well, that's, I think, the, the correct route to take, because what they said after that is the most important thing. The only thing that matters is keeping your eyes fixed on Christ, just like he should have and otherwise didn't for a moment and fell into the water and was lifted out of it. But keeping his eyes on Christ would have kept that from happening, or so it seems. Right? That's what you Read from reading the text is that him taking his eyes off of Jesus causes him to start to sink. And so, yeah, I mean, it's. It's a. It's a dance that if you're going to. To partake in, should be done carefully. I don't know if we do it carefully all the time. I mean, you know, there's a lot of comedy and we make fun of a lot of. But it should end over and over again with pointing back to Christ. You should have your eyes fixed on Christ. And I think that that is more and more important as we move closer.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

It's not just like. Like looking at him. There's like a. As. As we review more scripture, it's about knowing his voice. And I'll be honest, even. Even with the amount of work that I put in, if somebody asked me, do you know his voice? I don't. I don't know. I'm not. I'm not 100 sure that I do know his voice. But Saul knew his voice, and Saul was killing Christians, but he knew his voice when he called him so

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

well. Saul. Saul. Saul needed to be blinded. Saul needed Jesus to physically manifest. You know, only after those experiences did the scripture says.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

The scripture says that a voice spoke to him. And he says, lord, my Lord. And then he tells him, why are you persecuting me? And then he goes, who are you? I recognize you, but I don't know you. Like, I don't. I don't know who you are. I think I'm doing the right thing. But he recognizes the voice when it calls. That's. That's what discernment is. And it's like, that's. What do I have that I don't know? I. I ask myself that every day because. Because we are coming to this point. Like, you're saying, shit's getting real confusing. And whether we put aliens here or there or. Or the supernatural events that happen or the political events that happen here or there, it's just like, okay, but do I know his voice? Because if I think, like, just because I do this dumb show that we're gonna see through.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Oh, right. This thing that.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

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[Ben of Venice the Menace]

My. My premise is that whatever we see coming or being talked about or it's not outside the realm of what scripture describes or allows for, you know?

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Agreed.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

It's. It's not. And you're saying you want to work on or you don't know if you know Christ's voice. Christ's voice is primarily found in scripture. We all have personal relationships. I get it. The Holy Spirit moves. I get it. We pray. I get it. Sometimes he answers, sometimes he does. I get it.

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[Ben of Venice the Menace]

To Geico, the word of God is called the word of God for a reason. That's literally what he saw fit to inspire in writing. If videos existed, he probably would have made a video for us. But for all of human civilization thus far, writing existed. And so he transmitted his actual words in the Bible. So if we want to know God more, if we want to know Christ more. Dude, Bible, Bible, Bible, Bible, Bible, Bible, Bible. I love the Bible. I'm obsessed with the Bible. Does it always make me feel more spiritual? I'm very cerebral. I'm not like an emotional person, really. It's hard for me to resonate on that level. Okay. But I'm very cerebral. So for me, I can just read the facts as laid out in scripture and that speaks to my heart and aligns me with Christ. It's a supernatural thing that happens and he works differently in every single person through his word. Granted. But for me personally, dude, I could, I could literally read the law. I just did it in Deuteronomy, Leviticus, all that stuff. I could read the law. And I'm like, dude, God's amazing. I can't believe that this is what he wanted of his people and he saw fit to like actually hand them a civilization from scratch and be like, I want you to do this and you're going to flourish if you do this. And they're like, nah, we want to bang the prostitutes from the village next door. You know what I'm saying? And then he's like, okay, well I'll kill you. Then I'm like, I love God. Like, it literally just stuff like that to me makes me fall in love with Christ himself more and more. And under, like taking a step back, this is my story. It doesn't have to be everybody's. You ask if you hate me, I don't give a. Stepping out of dispensationalism and taking those glasses off, you know, and reading the Bible again without that filter in front of my face, bro, it's a whole other, It's a whole other book. Like, it's a whole other story. Christ is pinnacle, the center. It's all about Christ. Nothing is apart from Christ. It's not about Israel and the millennial reign and the pre trib rapture and about God's work with the Jews. No, it's about God's work with Christ for the benefit of all humanity, including the Gentiles, which was his original promise to Abraham. All nations will be blessed in you all. So for me, once, once I. Once I see the Bible through this or with lack of this lens, dude, I'm just enamored in a whole new way. I've been Christian for my whole life, 40 years now. I've got a degree in Biblical studies. Went through all of this, grew up in the church, went through all of this. I have more of a passion now for Christ himself than I've ever had in my entire life. I used to literally think to myself, dude, four years ago, five years ago, maximum. I used to literally think to myself, like, even after reading the Bible or praying or something, I'd lay down and be like, man, I wonder what's next? Like for me and my relationship with Christ. I wonder what, what's the next level for me? Because like, I kind of, I almost felt like I got it, I arrived, I understood what it was saying. I see what the pre trip guys Say I see what the disbeys say. I see what the Bible says. I see how they get there. I'm like, cool, okay? And then out of nowhere, honestly, man, alien stuff and Covid shook my ass into gear.

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[Ben of Venice the Menace]

And really, really, really made me, at that particular time, really made me take it from something that's just cerebral and I get it, okay? And made me realize like, oh my God, it's happening. Yeah, that's it, it's happening, it's happening. Okay? And I think, bro, a lot of people were shaken in that same time frame and are currently being shaken, okay? It, to me it's almost like, hey, as Satan moves in this last, last ditch war against Christ to take back the planet and to kill his, his kids, it's almost as if God himself is actually having a counter moment where he's preparing his elect, his remnant and really solidifying them for what's about to unfold. You know what I'm saying? And I hope, bro, that these conversations aren't just an end in themselves and like we glorify the pre flood world and technology and all that that I'm saying that that was wiped out for a reason. And what I'm saying is we're doing it again. And there's, there's. If we know we're doing it again and we can articulate it and show Christians how we're doing it again and how we are being used to do it again, I think that, I think that we could, bro, I think we could kind of either hinder it, slow it down. I don't think we could necessarily stop it unless this isn't the time for Christ to return. But I do think we can make the world. I mean, that sounds gay, but I know we can make the world better by not participating in Satan's deception in this time, you know what I mean? And actually helping people come out of this theological framework which enables them to send money to Israel to kill more Christians and more Palestinians to build the third freaking temple to Satan. There's Pete, there's, there's Christians supporting the building of the third Temple, a pagan satanic structure where God is not going to be worshiped. God is not going to be there. Christ is not going to be there. This is a temple to Satan. And you're supporting it because you think your theological interpretation says that you need to fulfill that prophecy to make sure that the, that you expedite Christ's return. Excuse you, you might not be Christian, you, you might have missed the boat. You know what I'm saying so to me, I, I'm seeing how Christians are being used because of this bogus interpretation of scripture that arose primarily in 1830 by Darby. So that's why for us, I don't know, for our show, it's a former dispensational support group where we're starting to see a lot of dots connecting and how this system plays a role in it and explaining the phenomenon in a way that the Bible allows for. Dude, I had a non Christian guy. Last thing I'll say, I had a non Christian guy message us on one of our YouTube videos that we did recently. He's like, hey, I'm not religious or Christian or anything like that. I hate the church. I think that they've got this, this and this wrong and blah, blah, blah. I think he might have been former Catholic or something and this was a video about aliens. And he's like, but I really like the way you guys are articulating this and it's making me rethink some things, bro. I'm like, that's it. That's it for me and what I'm doing. It might not be for everybody, but it's for that guy and everybody else that thumbs down and talks shit and stuff. I'm like, cool. Not for you. Yeah, but for that guy. That guy, I don't know where he's going to go. I don't know where God's going to lead him. But some idiot on YouTube was talking about aliens and the Bible and for some reason God saw fit to put that in his algo and it popped up and he's now rethinking some things. I don't know what that means. I don't know where that goes. But if Christ sees fit to draw that guy near, I am more than thankful that my stupid two hour video about aliens helped. You know what I'm saying?

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

That's it, man. That's the, that's the prayer. Every time I'm, I'm coming to the studio is like, I don't know what we're gonna. Even on the comedy ones. Even on the comedy ones where it's like we're just gonna take the piss out of something. It's like, let there be just even a sentence, even just one sentence that resonates with one person out there that is oriented and, and drawn closer to the Lord because of some that we said. And you know, it's not like we said it or was our idea. Like I asked, I'm like, send Holy Spirit, inspire me like, reveal things to me, guide our words so that we say something that just draws like 1, 1 extra into the fold and, and, and moves them down the line to Christ. That's it. Like every time. That's it. So, you know, yeah, we have these conversations, we have a lot of different conversations, man. But even if it's old hat or even if it's something we've talked about before, there is always, always, always, always the potential for somebody who was on the fence or somebody who wasn't a believer or somebody who was, but, you know, needed an extra push to go a little bit further. There's always that opportunity for somebody to hear something like this. And, and, you know, I'm sure you get them. You get, you have a, a group that you're talking about. We get emails and stuff from people that say this. So I'm like, whatever the conversation is, it almost doesn't even matter. I don't do any prep work for this because I'm like, whatever is supposed to happen from this show, let it serve the kingdom. Let it be, you know, let it bring glory to God. Let it be, Let it serve his will. And, and so, you know, and that also takes me off the, the hook for having to.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

You'll know what to say in that hour.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Yeah, exactly. That's it. So look, we gotta, we gotta bring it in for a landing because we have another show coming up. But as we get out of here, Ben, number one, thank you for your time. And number two, let's remind everybody where they can find you.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Bennett Menace on YouTube, Instagram, all that crap. Other than that, man, that's all I got. I, I, I'm top eight. If you get led as you keep doing this, if you get led into other streams, other avenues, Go with it, bro. Go with it. If, if, if the, oh yeah, that's us. Who cares?

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

What do you, what do you mean?

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

If you feel like you're being led away from the alien stuff and away from the deception stuff, and you guys have harped on that enough, and you feel like God's leading you guys and your show and stuff into other avenues, dude, go with it. Go with it. These things right here, people don't realize this. I don't know about you guys. I'm just a normal guy and I have a camera set up in my room and then I'll like read stuff and see stuff on YouTube and then I'll come and talk about it with my friends. You know, after this, I'm going to go and collect my chicken. Eggs. I'm going to mow my. I'm just going to do normal people shit. But I'm just being real with where God has me right now and talking about the things that God is doing in me, opening my eyes to, leading me to leading me away from, etc. This thing will change for everybody where you guys are at and what you're doing right now might change. You know what I'm saying, dude, Go with it. Pray, be honest and go wherever the spirit leads. It does not have to be about aliens all the time. Absolutely does not happen.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

The idea, the idea is as I'm realizing more and more that the road is narrower, the gate is narrower than I thought. I guess you get to it for sure. All right, but how do you, I guess figuring out how to be a large funnel on one end and a very direct and precise funnel on the other.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Yeah, man, I don't know.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

I'll let you know when I figure that out. We do have to bring it in for a landing because. In a minute. But thank you for. Thanks for coming on, man. This was. It was fun. I had. I always love talking about this stuff. Even though I had to give you some pushback just to like. Again, I'm trying to be like the narrow funnel again.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

Sure, right.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

So we're catching like this. We're throwing out this wide net and

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

I just hope we're pushing people to

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

the point in that because pointing, you

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

know, then you, you do what you do. You do your part and God does the rest.

[David Lee Corbo (AKA the Raven)]

Amen.

[Ben of Venice the Menace]

That's it. There's nothing else. There's no solution. God does the rest. That's it. Just keep doing. You dog.

[Co-host (possibly David Lee Corbo)]

Excellent way to end the episode. Until next time, guys. Obey, submit and comply. We will see you in five minutes. Maybe. In the pages they forgot.

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