DMT Lockout w/ Seth Kicklighter

Summary

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Nephilim Death Squad: "DMT Lockout" with Seth Kicklighter

Date: April 3, 2026
Podcast: Nephilim Death Squad
Main Guests: David L Corbo, aka the Raven; Top Lobsta; Seth Kicklighter

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Episode Overview

This episode is a raucous, comic, and deeply researched exploration into the phenomenon of being "kicked out" of the DMT (dimethyltryptamine) realm, known in internet circles as a "DMT lockout" or "hyperslap." Featuring returning guest Seth Kicklighter, author of Spirit Realm Shenanigans: An Unhinged Rant Exposing the Psychic Fabrications of Discarnate Dweebs and Nephilim Nitwits, the conversation investigates the spiritual, occult, and conspiratorial ramifications of modern psychedelic phenomena—particularly through a critical, biblical, and satirical lens. The hosts and guest also launch into a systematic takedown of Dan Duvall, a controversial Christian "deliverance" figure, and connect these topics to larger themes of deception, New Age beliefs, spiritual warfare, and Christian discernment.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The DMT "Lockout" Phenomenon

• Definition and Virality

  • The "DMT lockout" or "hyperslap" describes experiences where, after multiple DMT trips, users encounter entities (machine elves, jesters, alien types, etc.) who tell them they're no longer allowed in the DMT realm, citing reasons like "coming too often without purpose."
  • (06:01) – Seth: "People do DMT a bunch of times... eventually not be allowed back in. It is ended by an entity... they'll say, 'you're coming here too much and you're not coming with a purpose.'"

• Real-Life Testimonies & Satirical Takes

  • Viral videos (even satirical ones) are based on true testimonies.
  • Example of Zoltan Bathory (Five Finger Death Punch) who claimed he got back into the DMT realm after four months of meditation and self-reflection, highlighting the complex, gatekeeper-like nature of these "entities."
    (11:12) – Seth: "...He said he got back after four months meditation. Now... that proves it's not your skill that you're developing. It’s an entity choosing to take you out of body or not.”

• Entity Control Theory

  • Seth’s core argument: all out-of-body or psychedelic experiences are fabricated and controlled by non-human entities (demons, in biblical parlance); humans DO NOT develop psychic skills for real, but are permitted or denied "access."
  • Resource constraints: Entities are limited in number (as many as nephilim died in the flood) and allocate their "attention" strategically—hence, no ROI = no further experiences.
    (14:20) – Seth: "They're limited in number, dude. Remember that... if you're just some dumb stoner, they're going to be like, you're wasting our time, dude."

• Similarities to Other Psychedelic Realms

  • Patterns also appear in high-dose mushroom and ayahuasca experiences.
  • The "ROI" concept: only those who are "assets" (spread disinfo, further the cause) get consistently immersive experiences.

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Spiritual Deception in Psychedelic and "Deliverance" Movements

• Takedown of Dan Duvall & Spirit Releasement Therapy (SRT)

  • Duvall is cast as a figurehead for the repackaging of old New Age and occult practices as "Christian deliverance," propagating a system with dangerous, occult origins.
  • SRT, as pioneered by William J. Baldwin and others, involved trance states, channeling, and interaction with "dark force entities," "aliens," and ghosts—all explained away or justified as biblical by Duvall.
  • (16:46) Seth: "He is training over a few hundred right now to be practitioners just like him, which is a lot of trickle-down malarkey... His Christian deliverance is... a deception from demons."

• Parallels with SRT and New Age Practices

  • Much of Duvall’s practice—council breaking, soul fragment retrieval, entity dialogues, integration—is identical to New Age and shamanic practices.
  • Duvall’s entities mimic angels, Jesus, and “biblical demons” for Christians, while other practitioners encounter "aliens" and "ghosts" with different cultural lore.
  • (22:29) Seth: "My whole thing: SRT and Duvall’s work are all demons masking as all these characters... They’re catering different lore to different people."

• Temporary or False "Healings"

  • Often temporary improvement, then return (even worse) symptoms—typical of occult healing modalities.

• Examples of Absurd/Revelatory Lore

  • Absurd examples from SRT transcripts: ghosts addicted to morphine, "gay retarded pedophile ghosts," and aliens vying for soul fragments.
  • Parodies and ridicule are used pointedly to highlight the irrational and criminally uncritical acceptance of these ideas.

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Mechanisms of Spiritual Control & Deception

• Soul Fragmentation & Integration

  • Seth and the hosts point out that the practice of "integrating" soul fragments (sometimes found on other planets, in jars, in the rings of Saturn, etc.) is biblically unfounded and likely spiritually dangerous.
  • The idea that integrating "fragments" speciously turns into consent for possession.
  • (109:36) Seth: "You're jumping over all the steps that you could unknowingly consent to demonic possession or oppression, and you're going straight up to it and asking it to integrate with you."

• Channeling & Prayer Rituals

  • Detailed breakdown (and mockery) of Duvall prayers/rituals:
    • Overly complex, invoking “sacred geometry, apex of time formulas, curses of non-existence, airquakes, bone marrow assignments, heavenly algorithms,” etc.
    • (152:28): “Bone marrow assignments, blood plasma markers, meridian lines, chakras, energy signatures, neural lace. All related powers of darkness. Quantum technology technologies oversold…”
  • These are compared to Billy Carson or Galactic Federation of Light channelers in their absurdity and occult performativity.

• Fabricated Realms and Non-Cross-Referenced Lores

  • Seth’s "vision control" theory—that all realms and lore are fabricated ad hoc by the controlling entities, tailored to the individual's context and beliefs.
  • Failure to cross-reference between astral realms, SRT, and other "channeled" testimony exposes the patchwork, contradictory (and thus fabricated) nature of these dimensions.

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Patterns Across UFO, Alien & Demonic Phenomena

• High Parallels between “Alien” and Demonic Encounters

  • Detailed citations from SRT and abduction stories (Whitley Strieber, etc.) show that alien "technologies" cause behavioral and emotional manipulation indistinguishable from classic demonic oppression.
  • (68:01) – Seth: “They have implanted... probes... able to control the emotions... anger function is turned up, others, the fear is intensified.”
  • Loose, intrusive thoughts, intrusive addictive behaviors, and emotional spikes—same outcomes, different costumes.

• Exposing the Great Deception / End-Times Preparation

  • Seth contends that these practices, spreading rapidly through venues like Duvall’s “Bride Ministries,” amount to the occult’s final incursion into Christianity—preparing the world for the Great Deception.
  • Rapid spread of Duvall’s training programs (primarily among women) is an urgent, viral-level concern.
  • (158:35) – Seth: “He’s currently teaching hundreds... soon in the thousands... in the most important time ever to testify for Christ.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the DMT Lockout
  (13:05) David: "Why is this happening? Why is this phenomenon taking place?... Why would this dude have to beg the Jews to get back into the realm for four months?"
• On SRT and Absurdity of Lore
  (64:33) Seth: "Bridget had a male entity who was mentally retarded... Her compassion opened her shield up for him to come in."
  (65:17) Seth: “An entity in my patient was a homosexual. After he died of AIDS, he possessed my patient… determined to give her AIDS by possessing her.”
• On Duvall’s Practices
  (90:09) Seth: “He talks about soul fragments… traded so that the people getting them can now influence you from a distance, just like everything else.”
• On Dan Duvall's Prayer Rituals
  (149:59) Seth (reading): “I command that every gate, frequency barrier, equation, cloaking device, force field, sacred geometry, DNA matrix, apex of time formula, defense protocol....” (153:09): “I call for a crushing blow... Chariots of fire, the broom of destruction, the tsunami of living water, earthquakes, airquakes, seaquakes, confusion, the acts of the Lord and the fiery stream..."
• On the Danger of False Integration
  (109:36) Seth: "...You're literally... going straight up to it and asking it to integrate with you."
• On Pre-Adamic Memories and Reincarnation
  (138:47) Dan Duvall (AI voice): “My job in the pre Adamic age was a general… ran a military campaign… had a lot of betrayal and shiftiness… So it was like chaos.”
• Hosts on Tactics of Deception
  (169:50) David: "The inability to be clear is like a huge red flag man… When they're done explaining, you're like, I don’t know what the f*** you think."

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• DMT Lockout and Early Theories – 05:26–13:06
• Vision Control / Entities Restricting Access – 13:06–14:33
• Analysis of DMT Testimonies (Zoltan Bathory) – 11:12–13:06
• Spirit Releasement Therapy, Dan Duvall Critique – 15:36–25:50
• Comparative New Age Lore (SRT, Modis, Baldwin, etc.) – 25:54–51:28
• Absurdities in SRT / Ghost & Demon Examples – 64:09–66:38
• Alien Attachments, Etheric Devices – 67:04–84:12
• Exposing Pre-Adamic “Memories” & Reincarnation – 121:00–131:01
• Duvall's Training, Coaching Programs – 158:35–161:36
• SRT Prayer Rituals Read Aloud – 149:59–154:13
• Community Response & Call to Action – 161:45–166:22

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Tone, Style & Final Thoughts

The episode combines irreverent humor, sharp biblical scrutiny, and deep conspiracy research. It highlights the absurdity and real-world danger of mixing uncritical New Age channeling with Christian language and deliverance ministries, as seen in the rapid growth of Dan Duvall’s teaching empire. It ends with a strong call to action: share this message widely to combat what the hosts see as spiritual deception poised to mislead the Church at a critical historical moment.

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For Further Engagement

• Seth Kicklighter’s Book: Spirit Realm Shenanigans (Amazon, Payhip, free audiobook on YouTube)
• Seth on Social Media: X (formerly Twitter) @SethKicklighter / @SethLehem
• Nephilim Death Squad: patreon.com/nephilimdeathSquad
• Research/Lore Referenced: William J. Baldwin, Shakuntala Modis, Carl Wickland, “CE6: Close Encounters of the Possession Kind”

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Summary prepared for listeners who want a full, richly detailed report without plowing through three hours of hilarity, deep cuts, and dire warnings. “Stay curious. Stay dangerous.”

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Don't be in here. Oh, Joe Brown's in here. Hey, Joe Brown. I'm sorry. Matt just decided to jump in here and start screaming. Any who joining us today is Seth Kick lighter for round two. Seth. Welcome back to Sandra Coffee Shop NDS Studio Fabrications.

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I'm so excited to be here, brother.

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Tell them about the name of your book. Oh, the name of stuff and where

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they can find it.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Spirit realm shenanigans and unhinged rant exposing the psychic fabrications of discarnate dweebs and nephilim nitwits. It is 412 pages, tiny font. I'm sorry, it is found. Yeah, you know, it's found on Amazon just like most books and also on payhip. If you want to schizo autograph signed copy, buy it on my payhip directly. It's a dollar cheaper. If you're poor, we have. You can find my audiobook for free. It's 34 hours. It is on YouTube. I've been kind of blowing up since the last one. I have like 20 hour listens a day, which is crazy.

[A]

That's awesome.

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Y' all are crazy for that. But the voices are fun and really silly for the characters I'm mocking in it, which is almost everybody. So if you want to listen to some silly voices, I'll advertise it later. More, I think.

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Well, I'm going to spend just a moment here glazing Seth, because people really enjoyed your last appearance. I enjoyed your last appearance. It was a really fun conversation, really fascinating. And it was. Not only was it fascinating, it was refreshing in the sense of, like, original ideas. You know what I mean? Like, I'm sure that other people have speculated whether or not these astral realms and remote viewing realms, etc, dreamscapes, these things that these entities lock you into are entirely fabricated by them, but they don't bring evidence. Yeah. And it was a really great cohesive way of laying that out. So I thought the first episode was really great. I'm happy that everybody is receiving you so well. You're being received.

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I love being received.

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And you're doing great.

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Keep receiving.

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So before we get into this conversation, I know you said you wanted to murder Dan Duvall and, oh, I got nervous in Minecraft. In Minecraft. Are we gonna be that big forever? We're just gonna be giant sometimes.

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All right, that's fine. I look tiny compared to y'.

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All. I don't like that.

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Yeah, well, yeah.

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Before we get into the Dan Duvall thing, I want to talk about this phenomenon that's been highlighted, it's going viral lately. You, you said in an earlier conversation off air that this has been happening for a while now.

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Oh yeah.

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But the virality of it is now brought it to, you know, the average person. It's not the average person, but the average conspiracy theorist on Twitter's awareness. And that phenomenon is folks getting kicked out of the DMT realm.

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Tell us a little bit about it. Hyper Slap.

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So what, what does it even mean?

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It's a thing.

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That's a name people are giving it.

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Is that a real thing?

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It's the same thing, just with a facility or name.

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I like Hyper Slap. I know.

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I think it's more fun and I'm gonna start using it now and claiming it as my own.

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All right, well, so. So let's do this then. Seth, lay out what people are claiming and then I want to hear your take on it.

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Well, preemptively, I should say. You should watch the first episode or this will not make sense or really totally have much backing and you'll think I'm craz. But the first episode I talk about how the. My main theory of the book, which is vision control from the demonic, or if you want to call them guides or anything else in the spirit realm, whoever they are, they can all have the ability to control grandiose, elaborate visions. And this accounts for psychic abilities in general, like remote viewing, access of information. Definitely all out of body travel. All the realms are just literally fake lucid dreams, essentially past life memories, secret space program memories, future life memories, which would be part three if you want to get there later. And some other stuff, all psychic information and pre ademic memories which we're going to get into. But I think all of that's just downloaded information or semi autonomous control vision. So if you don't subscribe to that, this is not going to make sense. But this is in line with that. So DMT lockout is essentially. I guess we should just baseline explain it. Yeah, people do DMT a bunch of times. After a few dozen or sometimes hundreds, people will eventually not be allowed back in. And it is ended by an entity one they usually encounter multiple times, whether it's the freaking machine elves or the who else people see that. The jester types.

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Yes.

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The freaky clowns or aliens of different kinds. And there's more, but those are the main ones recorded, the archetypes that are only present In DMT stuff usually. And they are. Eventually they'll say, hey, why are you coming here? You're coming here too much. I'm paraphrasing slightly, but this is the story. People say, you're coming here too much and you're not coming with a purpose. You're supposed to come here to learn things, for wisdom. Because they want you to make, they want you to think, oh, that's what they're concerned about is my education. I've heard spiritual education, not just with

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dmt, but I've also heard that with like high doses of mushrooms or ayahuasca, right. People go and they, you know, have

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an out of body vision. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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This is actually so here, let's, let's bring this up because this guy, Seth, this is the guy that kind of went viral in a big way.

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Actually funny like, this is a comedian, by the way.

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This is a comedian?

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You didn't know that?

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No, I thought it was. I fall.

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I fell for it too. And someone called me out and I was like, oh, this is a comedian killing it. He's actually.

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I thought he was. Hold on, let's watch a little bit of this.

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No, it's fin fun.

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It's fun from the DMT realm. And I honestly don't know what I did wrong. I didn't say anything. I didn't do anything wrong. I was playing with some psychic energy objects, psychedelic plants and shapes.

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I was interacting with the bug men and apparently I did something.

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At some point I did something wrong. And the all seeing infinite intelligence just lit me up like a light and said, you are permanently banned. Get out.

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That's so funny. That's so funny. At the end of it, he goes on to say, like, if you could put in, basically put in a good word for me type of deal. I can't believe I fell for that because I was looking at the guy, I was like, he looks disheveled, he looks like an addict and. Or an addict, rather.

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It's funny because it's all based off of true testimonies.

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It's very upsetting.

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Well, anyway, yeah, this guy, he was acting, but it was. But that's based off of real testimonies, essentially. I mean, his was a bit more desperate, pathetic, but that's. I've seen that as well from people. Another big one is Zoltan Bathroy's testimony. I'm sorry, the Five Finger Death Punch singer. He went on Danny Jones with Danny Goler, by the way. Danny Goler. Text me. I've been. I've been tagging you and stuff. Stop ignoring me and Andrew Gallimore. This is. It's not how it works. Your fans respond to Seth. You son of a. Y' all disrespect me because I look like a woman.

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Let me explain to Seth how it works. Number one, you can't just tech like, like, comment on people and expect to comment back.

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What are you talking about?

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That's exactly how he got here.

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That's exactly how I got. Have you seen the DMs I sent y'? All?

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He's like, literally sitting across from us for episode two by doing that exact thing. So actually, we don't know what the hell we're talking. You know what? Keep doing what. You're wrong. Jeez, man.

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Yeah, yeah. Anyway, so, yeah, they need to contact me because they're the biggest in this field of DMT stuff. Andrew Gallimore, as a researcher, he's okay, you know, smart, but I disagree with him a lot. He's not really into the whole God stuff at all, actually. Okay, so he's very biased against me. I'm sorry. But I put a post out explaining my theory, which I'm getting into, and I went baby viral for like a day, like a few days ago. Because this was going viral.

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You were killing. It was very concise.

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I was answering as many messages as I could, but there's a lot of people who thought it was. Really thought it made sense. So the vision control theory, you need to know for this to make sense. We're going to defame Dan Duvall. This is what this is about. But for. I'm just have to start on this for anybody starting off. So this is the kind of thing,

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like where Donald Trump wins presidency because Obama insulted him. Like, is this why you're doing this?

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Oh, the theatrics add a viability to it that I think is necessary to get to get the word out, but also deservingly so.

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Right?

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I mean, no, absolutely. And, you know, I feel, you know, completely righteous in my actions here, but I'm also biased and I'm. I'm just trying to be a quirky girl, I guess about it.

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You know, I'm trying to be a quirky girl. Well, no, I mean, I think you have a real gripe with these guys and. And, you know, I think you're just passionate, but that's fine.

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I'm gonna finish the DMT stuff. Stop. Yeah, you said Zoltan. Zoltan Battle, right? Yeah, he. He did a. There's a Danny Jones episode there's a clip you can look up Zoltan DMT realm you can watch 15 minute clip on it he talks about the same thing that guy just did where he gets kicked out.

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Boom.

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Can't go back. But he is the one testimony I've heard where he said he did make it back after four months of meditation on contacting these entities by meditation saying why did I get banned? I want to come back for months. And after months they let him back. Which for one, for one proves if. If the whole out of body stuff is. That's him is a. Is a psychic ability.

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He looks like a dude that would beg to be let back into this bag.

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And it was a little embarrassing. I'm sorry Zoltan.

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But actually kind of funny. That's how you get your YouTube page back as well.

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Oh yeah. It's both. Both instances beg the Jews.

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It's a. It's a sad world we live in. So yeah so he said he got back after four months meditation. Now this is adding to my theory that you know out of body travels entity requiring an entity. You cannot do it because you develop a psychic ability otherwise you going on this drug that apparently gets you out of body super easily. Taking 10 20x the amount after you get kicked out to get back out of body. You still can after taking a ton more. Yeah like a wild amount more. That proves it's not your skill that you're developing. It's an entity choosing to take you

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out of body or not entity facilitating.

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Absolutely.

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Are they still experiencing a high?

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They get like the visuals and those and I've. And I've done DMT 3 times. My bad. I didn't know it was wrong but. And I had a very torturous hellish experience the third time that was time dilated as they were just torturing me. They don't try to confuse me with guides because I'm already too aware of a deception. But I was still dumb enough to do the drugs so they just with me by torturing me. So that's. That was traumatic but it faded like a dream the memory of it. So I'm okay now. But it was awful. It was very. It was very freaky.

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You remember that?

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It was at least I remember being freaky but the details faded. But I have like flashbacks occasionally like I'm in Nam. It's crazy.

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This is interesting though. What you're saying is is it highlights exactly what you laid out in the first episode which is these experiences are facilitated by the entities. It's not your own skill and it's not even the chemical compound. Or else why would this dude have to beg the Jews to get back into the realm for four months?

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The astral Jews. Yes.

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And why is this happening? Why is this phenomenon taking place? I guess. How many people is this happening to?

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I mean, I've seen at least a dozen or two testimonies myself online. Some of them are just like Reddit. Some of them are like people on YouTube and some of them are doing videos. I've watched enough to know it's a real thing and it makes sense with my whole shenanigans framework, by the way. And I'm not done because I need to say that. What was the other thing I wanted to say? Experiences. Yeah. Okay. So I think the reason they're kicking people out is mostly because one, they are limited in resources and amount of. A limited amount of demons. They're not infinite. They have only as much as Nephilim died in the flood. They're a hive mind, Borg. They're connected to everything. Sure. But they only have a certain number of themselves and they want to allocate the resources. There's 8 billion people they got to harass. And if you're going out of body hundreds of times and they want to give you a whole very immersive, very detailed experience, it requires return on investment, and they're not getting any. If you're not an asset, you're just doing it for fun. Now if you're a conduit for disinformation and you're an asset, oh, they have a great amount of reasons to keep you in line. So that's an important factor here, is if you're just some dumb stone or you're not really doing anything important, they're going to be like, you're wasting our time, dude. We got to go. We got to go assault these in some other country or whatever.

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That's a great. I mean, yeah, it makes. I love the idea that disembodied spirits are worried about roi. Like, that's.

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They're limited in number, dude. Remember that?

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That makes a lot of sense.

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So that's. I think that covers most of it, but I basically said that in a post and people are loving it. But I. I wanted Andrew Gallimore and Danny Goler to have some thoughts on it. They're too scared because they know I'm right.

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Yeah.

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And also they don't believe in the same stuff, but Goler's more spiritual, but he's on the New Age side and he, like, hangs out with Entities who tell him what to do. And that's where he got his whole thing from. And he's a nice guy. He's a nice guy, I'm sure, but

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he's got to die. I've been having an experience over the last few days where overwhelmingly people are coming out against me to say that this phenomenon isn't demonic in its nature.

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Yeah.

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And then I'm finding that, like, I'm arguing with big accounts. 30, 000 plus followers.

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But they're AI witches.

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Oh, they're. Well, they're almost always. Yeah, Yeah. I mean, that's kind of a, you know, redundancy. But yeah, I mean, over. And it's. It's AI responses that don't have an opinion on it themselves. They just want me to stop saying what I'm saying. And they're like, prove it, prove it, prove it. Bring tangible evidence. You know, it sounds like bring receipts, but yeah, it's an interesting phenomenon. So. Okay, please, I interrupted you some more. Go ahead.

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Yeah, please stop that.

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I can't help it.

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I'll. I'll forgive you. Only because I'm a man of forgiveness.

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Not gonna stop that.

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So we're gonna move on to what this is really about because the last one's a contin. Continuation of the first episode, which I recommend watching first, please.

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But, yeah, you would need the context.

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This. Yeah, but this is important. So today is my Dan Duvall defamation trial legally protected? I. I pray.

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Yeah.

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Because these are opinions, but also based off of real information. He said. Everything I said he says is true.

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Okay.

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So it's gonna start out with about an hour and a half, maybe of convoluted information about other stuff. Not his hour and a half. Maybe an hour. Maybe an hour if you shut the up.

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You know what? This is up to you guys, not me.

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I can do it. I can do it.

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I don't know. This is gonna be a three hour episode.

[C]

All right.

[B]

No, I wanted it to be because it kind of needs to be, but it's. And it's worth it. But you know, you guys, I'm sure, have things to do, like.

[A]

I don't really have anything to do.

[B]

I know you don't. It was a joke.

[A]

If you keep my interest. All right.

[B]

I'm gonna try right now. We'll get to it. Okay, so. Okay, so we need to talk about the thousand foot overview. I'll give first. Is that Dan Duvall's Christian Deliverance? If you're listening to the podcast and don't have video, I'm doing air quotes sarcastically. Yeah, it is, it is not Christian based at all. It is a deception from demons, essentially. Short answer. But he is doing these holistic healings and he just said in a recent interview two weeks ago. I believe in front of an audience with people I, I'm not gonna name right now.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

That he has over 10,000 hours of experience now doing this deliverance practice. So it's, it's got customers, which means it's healing people, but it's not really healing. And we'll get to that. And then he has, he's training over a few hundred right now currently to be practitioners just like him, which is a lot of trickle down malarkey that's going to have a major effect on the Christian culture if people buy into it, which they currently are loving him. He's blowing up right now.

[A]

Yeah, I've been seeing him making the rounds.

[B]

He said he's going to be training thousands soon or in the thousands. So that is very problematic. We need to get on this asap.

[C]

Is he part of the New Apostolic Revelation? I think it's called, It's a certain type of denomination of church.

[B]

I'm not going to pretend like I'm an expert on what that means.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

I actually didn't know what it's called.

[C]

The New Apostolic Reformation. And that church is like a, that type of church would be Elevation Hillsong. These kind.

[B]

But they, they don't talk about the aliens really.

[C]

They do.

[B]

They do.

[C]

And when they talk about them, they talk about them in, in the same manner that Dan Duvall with this. Which is why I'm asking, because that like mega church idea, that denomination and that then the entire idea, the premise

[A]

goes hand in hand.

[C]

So I was, I was wondering.

[B]

I do not doubt that at all. And I'm sure those are the people that are eating the slop right now.

[A]

So quick aside, I don't care how long this takes. So I want to ask you a

[B]

question because it's going to take a while.

[A]

We have a, a Raelian feverishly hitting us up to send one of his rabbis here in person because he doesn't like what we've been saying about it. Do you think that we should have the Raelian rabbi on?

[B]

Well, you have a gun. I don't know if Top Lobster has a gun on him. I have a gun. I, I'll, I'll be bodyguard. I'll, I'll, I'll help intellectually dominate if need be. I, I won't be here if that's needed. But I think it's. I think it's important that you have people who dissent from you guys.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And on them in a public format that's, you know, intellectually domination as well

[A]

as they're saying something that was, like, explicitly, like, against everything. What was it that they were saying? It's like Jesus is an alien.

[C]

Well, they think that Raelle is a nephilim.

[A]

Oh, yeah, Raelle is a nephilim. He is a hybrid between God and a human woman. He's Jesus's brother, Raelle, meaning the. The leader of the. The Raelians. And they don't like, for the audience listening. This is from the time that we made fun of Danielle, that fat. She actually reached out. She reached out to her upper echelon of ray aliens and they mobilized and hit us up and I mean, like, stuff. Did you send him a picture of Super Mario's butthole?

[C]

Not yet, no.

[B]

Okay, well, you take a break.

[C]

We'll do that in a minute.

[A]

Okay, fine. All right, so please continue.

[B]

Okay, so Dan Duvall is, I think, the one of the fastest growing false prophets in the world right now and possibly going to be a huge problem for the Christian movement and a big asset to the demonic great deception, which I'm leaning towards nefarious on him instead of useful idiot, which it used to maybe be. Okay, we'll get into why later. This is, I think, very important to talk about because I don't hear anybody discussing how he's fraudulent and the evidence why. And the evidence is very clear when you study it. And that's in spirit releasement therapy, which we're going to break that down for the first hour, hour and a half or so. I will try to skate through it, but it's convoluted a little bit, and I can explain it, but it's. You got to bear with me here. It is basically a healing process where the therapist will have a patient come in, and this is just like Dan Duvall, but just slightly different. And they will go into a trance state where they were open and they're told in advance to be. Make sure you're disidentifying with any entities that come present so you can channel them. Daniel claims to not channel and that he just has them telepathically interact with the entities through their mind and then relay the message back to him, which is Ouija board of a human. It's the same thing, just with one less step. And by the way, I think he's lying slightly, but we'll get to that later because he Says it's.

[A]

So the difference here being channeling is

[B]

them speaking through you, speaking through the mouth. It's hearing the words and then telling Dandyball what they're saying.

[A]

Barely a remarkable difference. Yeah, but it's the same thing. It's barely a notable difference.

[B]

Contact Jesus and the angels. So, yeah, so there. But spirit releasement version is the new age stuff and we're going to go over the sources in a minute, but it is basically demons masking as ghosts. Mostly demons, but they're. They call themselves dark force entities because they don't like how demon sounds biblical. And they're not biblical demons. They're like lower astral entities. It's different. And then there are aliens, but the aliens aren't really their souls. It's their etheric attachments technology that they attached because they're scientists in a lab and on board the ship. You can contact them via black energy cord because it's an etheric device. And you can channel the spirit of the. You can channel the alien through the etheric attachment, because that makes sense. Of course they have the technology.

[A]

This is what Dan Duvall is saying.

[B]

No. Well, Dandy Ball does the alien thing with the spirit with the etheric attachments too. Yes.

[A]

So he's a big alien, but he is doing it.

[B]

There's no ghosts in his lore, which is crazy because that's 80 of the. Of the entities in the spirit releasement lore. How do they not over over, like over different? Because they're catering to his belief system.

[A]

That's all. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

So, but Duvall gets the aliens and the channeling aliens through the attachments and he gets the demons. But his demons are biblical demons, but they are also dumber than the real demons. And they're, you know, they're showing their cards and they're doing a lot. They're playing into his. Into stuff. So my whole thing is SRT is. And Duvall's work is all demons masking is all these characters. But they're catering different lore to different people with different belief systems. But they can't coexist and be healing people. But they are both healing people. The only answer is demons are allowing them to be quote, unquote healed because they are believing the slop they're feeding them, which is such bad disinformation. It guides them away from now even Christians, it guides from Christ in a sense, because it leads them down this mysticism path and it's accepting these channeled entities. And for the non Christians, for the new age stuff, it's just making them even crazier and deeper into the new age, which is a whole bunch of rabbit holes there. We can go into these healings are temporary.

[A]

What healings are temporary?

[B]

Often, yes. I'm not going to say I know every case because I don't keep track of everything, but a lot of them are. We'll talk into evidence of that later and you know, people speaking out about it, but it is either temporary or some other different ailment will come back worse and harder later. But if you are an asset like Dan Duvall, you get, according to him, little to no spiritual warfare in years. Even though he's slaying more demons than anybody. Wouldn't he be a target for spiritual warfare as everybody in the Bible, who is a real target? No, he actually has very little to none because he's an asset to them. So that's the thousand foot overview. I'm probably missing some details, but we're going to get into them because I have to move on. Basically, I want to break down now the manuals, which are where I'm getting my information, the SRT lore. Now I'm going to start with 30 years among the Dead by Carl Wicklin, which came out in 1924. And it's like 30 years worth of channeling. And I'll talk about that in a minute. That's one source. And he only channels ghosts, by the way. He doesn't ever access anything else. No demons? No. No aliens, nothing. So that's weird. He channeled for 30, meaning dead spirits of humans. Yes, he channeled for 30 years. I'll get back into that in a minute. And then we're going to use William J. Baldwin and Shakunta La Modi's work, which is mostly Baldwins, which is. Yes, exactly. Scary name. Spear Spirit Releasement Therapy Manual is the book I'm using for most of this. And his later book, which we'll talk into about the alien stuff more later. CE6 Close Encounters of the Possession Kind. The one of the hardest books to get a hold of in my entire collection. And it is. I see why. Because the implications of it are very dastardly and I don't like it. So that is a source I'm going to be going through. And then we're going through. What did I say about interrupting guys?

[C]

I'm just sorry.

[B]

If you weren't so far, I'd slap you.

[A]

That's correct.

[C]

That's why I set this table up.

[A]

That's exactly why. You see, before you said why don't you sit next to me? And I said, because. No.

[B]

Yeah, because I've been farting.

[A]

Because you've been nasty.

[C]

You've been very nasty.

[B]

Smelly. I've not been nasty.

[A]

Now please continue.

[B]

I saw.

[A]

Wait. Somebody said the. The pores are got. Get booted. Well, we love you. Nancy's left, so we have to do it. We still have a few minutes for the pores, but, you know, we'll.

[C]

You guys can [e-mail] desk but, Seth, you have to get back to your work, please.

[B]

I do.

[A]

I want to be struck.

[B]

So the. The next source. So Modi's book is basically Shakuntala. Modi's work is basically the same thing as Baldwin's. It's the same lore. So they're obviously doing this for multiple people. It's not just him. And he trained people. And the lore is aligned. But I'm gonna be. But she has more excerpts and transcripts, and he's more. Here's how you do it. Here's what we're doing.

[A]

Wait, can I ask you something? Because somebody in the chat says that they're watching Dan Duvall's sermons, like, every week, and they're not seeing this. What. What would be some indicators if somebody were watching Dan Duvall's work that they can look out for and notice some of these elements.

[B]

If you watch enough, you will see that he asks people to integrate with their soul, and they have to consent to that. And we're going to talk about that more later. I don't want to skip ahead. Whoever you are, friend, please finish the entire episode because you will be converted to more rational biblical Christianity by the end of this. And I promise this, the shade I'm throwing is absolutely justified and kind of righteous, and it needs to be done. Don't hate on me if you want, though, bro. Where was I at? So, yeah, Modi's work is the same, but it's more transcripts and less instructions. Yeah. Remarkable healings. And then the next. And then we're using Dan Duvall's work, which I'm not taking from books. I'm taking from over 40 hours, sourced from his interviews and taking direct verbatim quotes. Everything I use is verbatim.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And his. Also his training sessions where he talks about this stuff, and it's hard to get some of these details. And they're. They. They're very glossed over. A lot of the crazy details I'm bringing up are glossed over very quickly, but put a little shine, a Little light on it. So we're ending with Dan Duvall after the other sources. But it needs to be done that way so that you see this is the exact same practice rebranded. And the only explanation is demonic coordination of a different lore catering to different people. And it's all the same thing. It's fake. So any healings that happen are disingenuous and you're not actually getting, you know, holy spirit protection further from that. They can actually access you whenever you want. But they're going to lay off for a bit so you believe it because otherwise you'll just go well that was a bunch of baloney. So moving on. But they're all trance state based. They're all hip like regression based. You're. And you can also access past life memories and new age stuff and pre ademic memories in Dan Duvall stuff. Totally different. Don't overlap ever. It's weird. We'll get into that more later. Let's see. So we're going to talk about Carl Wicklin's 30 years among the Dead which is all transcripts and it's one of the funniest books I've ever read. It's basically transcripts of him where he is getting patients coming in and this is in the early 1900s and where the lore was simpler, it was simpler times. And they're keep that in mind. So they would come in and a patient would have this ailment, physical, mental, spiritual, whatever. And it would be so bad that they're coming to a spiritualist medium for it and that he will shock the patient with a little shocking device because spirits told him to do that. And it won't hurt the human that much, but it will really freak out the ghost attachment which then instead of being channeled to the patient like everybody else does, his, his wife, Carl Wickham's life wife works with him and she will be a D1 wide receiver catching that friggin ghost in her soul instantly. Right. So he will be catching, she'll catch them and then she'll channel the spirit that just left the patient and then he will then converse with his wife who's channeling whatever spirit was and every single ghost that comes through. They're only ghosts by the way. Keep in mind, everybody else has all sorts of entities. He only accesses ghosts and they all are donkey brained as hell. They're retarded, they don't remember who they are hardly. It takes them a while to remember details about their life. They usually come to those conclusions.

[A]

But it takes them a while to go, she's channeling.

[B]

Yeah, they all. They all are really dumb and silly. And I actually have a bunch of dialogue from them that I collected just for fun, which I might read later if we move fast enough. It's hilarious, but it is. It's problematic because that's not the same as ghost mentality in the future where they, like, 60, 80 years later. And this is smarter, they get smarter and they also share cosmology more. But these guys are dummies. They. And they. They have a hard time even conversating about anything and before getting distracted because they're like, you know, if they're a ghost stuck on the earth plane because of their morphine addiction, which is literally a story they use, they'll just be talking about morphine every second and then they'll change the subject. And he's like, don't you care about knowing the spiritual truths and how you can ascend to go to the high realms and be saved? And.

[A]

But now back to morphine.

[B]

Yeah. And then she's like. She's like, if you're a doctor, you'll give me some morphine. You know, stuff like that. And. Or they'll talk about sex or whatever they're addicted to or why they died. And they. This is where the forgetful amnesia could go. So they don't know they're dead because they don't know they're dead. And they don't know they're being channeled through a woman, but they're in a body. They're channeling, they're moving, which they're not used to doing that if they're a ghost. And they don't really seem to realize they're channeling this person. So it just doesn't make any sense with the later lore where they all know what they're doing and they're more cognizant.

[A]

So what do you think the reason for their stupidity is? Why are they coming off?

[B]

The law was simpler times. It was a simpler times. And they're catering and keeping the story simple. Right. That's one reason. There's more, but we're going to move on because I have to say,

[A]

yes,

[B]

this is a big deal. I have to read this excerpt now from Carl Wickland's work because he is a, you know, spiritualist, but he's not a classic New Age or theist, theosophical type, because he doesn't believe in reincarnation.

[A]

This is the husband of the wife who channels.

[B]

This is the guy who wrote the book and is doing the therapies aspect of it. So what page is this? 62? 66. Okay, so he doesn't believe in reincarnation, which is weird because demons always push reincarnation in their channelings. Now, that is not universal, though, and there's reasons for that. And it's muddy in the waters, and there's a whole bunch of reasons for that which we'll get into. But he says on this page, this is a quote from the guy, Carl Wickland. The theory of reincarnation can undoubtedly be traced to early stages of mankind when. When departed spirits took possession of the bodies of sensitive individuals and lived and acted through them, thus seemingly indicating reincarnation. But in reality, it was only spirit obsession or possession. The supposed memories of past lives of those who believe in reincarnation are far better accounted for by the presidents of invisible intelligences whose memories of their own mortal careers are conveyed through thought waves to the reincarnationists who have become sensitized to such impressions. Impressions.

[A]

So he's long and short of that.

[B]

What is that what he's saying? Reincarnation memories. He accesses them in these. In these regressions. But he doesn't believe they're from spirits or he doesn't believe it's from your past life. He believes it's from the spirit of the person. So if Joe has a ghost attachment named Bob, and Bob is being channeled now, okay, he gets this memory of Bob. He's like, oh, I used to be Bob in this past life. No. And then Wicklin's like, no, Bob is a ghost attached to you. And he's making you relive those memories on accident, not to deceive you, but just happens to be reliving it. And then you get that memory and think it's yours, but it's really this guy.

[A]

That's interesting, because at least he has the wherewithal to not jump straight to the conclusion that just because you're experiencing this means that somehow this is you.

[B]

But that's. You know why he believes that?

[A]

Because it doesn't fit.

[B]

His spirits told him. And not. Not the dumb ghost that visit him, but the after. So he gets rid of them by sending them to the light eventually. And he'll say he'll call down angels. Light beings. Yeah, light beings. To come rescue them and take them to the heaven realms. He believes when you go to heaven, you just keep ascending to higher, different dimensions that you don't come back to reincarnate, which is what some people teach based on lore like this. This is the source now.

[A]

So good cop, dumb cop.

[B]

Exactly. Now, now, sometimes throughout the book, an entity he got rid of will. The dumb ghost, will go to the higher realms and they'll come back and channel and visit just to say, hi, thanks for helping me out. Oh, that's when they come. It's very nice of them. And when they come back, they share some cosmology because the dumb ghosts are too that. But they get the smart ghost to come back and say, hey, by the way, reincarnation is not. They tell him reincarnation is not real. Multiple ghosts he's channeled will come back and say, oh, by the way, that was all baloney. Even. He even channels Helena Blavatsky's ghost at the end of the book and says, I was wrong about reincarnation. I'm stupid. It was actually this. That's legitimate. Yeah, it's. It's crazy. So that happens, and I gotta move on because I'm gonna get lost.

[C]

I love that. I love, like, the covering all your bases kind of an excuse.

[B]

People will believe whatever. Whatever they feel makes sense to them. Yeah. You won't see it as a big, big deception unless you're really examining it.

[A]

Yeah, right.

[B]

So they just go, that doesn't make sense. And I'll believe what? The reincarnation stuff, because the evidence. And there's a lot of evidence for that, which if we have a part three, I'm gonna on reincarnation harder than anybody ever has, logically speaking, by the way.

[A]

Well, already, if there's a part three, we're gonna call it on reincarnation.

[B]

Yeah. And there's gonna be exclamation points in all caps for sure. And some emojis, I bet. So then we go to. Okay, so now we're going to SRT the spirit releasement therapy work, which is the bulk of this stuff right here. And I need to go over the general chain of events so people understand what's happening here in the process. Because if you don't understand the dynamics, it's going to be hard to understand the rest. And the dynamics are confusing and convoluted on purpose, and I hate it, and I'm sorry, it's weird. But we're gonna do it, and I'm gonna do my best here.

[A]

This is the. This is srt, is what Dan Duvall is using.

[B]

He doesn't call it that.

[A]

It's Deliverance, but it's the same concept,

[B]

the same exact thing. Except apparently he channels via telepathic connection instead of voice channeling, which he does admit to doing other things later, which we'll talk about, but it might have been a Freudian, who knows? So we'll get into that.

[A]

So I just say it's very funny if the entity that you're channeling is like, they don't. They seem to really figure it out if. If you talk through them. So instead, why don't we just say it to them and then they can say it out loud.

[B]

It's a Ouija board. There's no difference in entity context. Same information.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Same deception as possible. Or is the case only. Anyway, so for srt, which I'll be referring it to in acronym form, there is a slightly different process versus if you have a demonic entity or dfe, they call. Or a ghost, which is most of them, that he has like 80. Or if you get an alien via etheric attachment. All right, so there's a slightly different process with how it ends, but they all follow a certain pattern at the beginning, which that pattern is. First finding out who they are, and they'll gladly tell you, hey, I'm this alien from planet Xenon 294, you know, or. Or they'll say, oh, I'm this person. I'm a ghost, and I'm attached to you. 80 of them will be ghosts, according to Wickland. Or no, according to Baldwin. And let's see. So they. They always ask, okay, well, we need to find out why you attached. And for ghosts, half of them are intentional, like they knew them in a past life. And we'll get into that more later. And the other half is just random. Wrong place, wrong time. Whoopsies. Whoopsies fell into your soul and got stuck there for a couple decades. That's the story. And what's the other thing? And then they'll find out. So they'll ask why you're attached to this person. How did it happen? They'll find out how, and they'll tell them the whole story. And then they'll find out what ailments they're causing. And usually it's the ailment they already knew about that they came in to get fixed. And we'll go, oh, yeah, I'm the one doing that to time.

[A]

Somebody said, what does SRT stand for?

[B]

It's spirit releasement therapy. Look up William J. Baldwin's work or Shakunta la Modi for sources. There's more. Definitely.

[A]

Look. I would say look up Shakunta la Modi.

[B]

Yeah, she's a. She's a she's. A nice lady. I don't want to speak ill. No,

[A]

I do need to explain it more,

[B]

but he's got to say, so we have to. Which is a type of black.

[A]

Okay, good.

[B]

Please hurry up, Seth, because I got this.

[C]

I don't want to be strong.

[B]

Yeah. So attach. So they'll find out what led to the attachment, what effects it has on the client for either. No matter what it is, for the most part. And for when it's a demon, they have to metaphysically trap them because the demons will run off, you know? And how do they do that? They call upon certain angels or light being. Sorry, but they'll call them angels or light beings, like, synonymously. Not biblical, though. Now, when they're calling on these light beings, they have a structured regiment for it. And how do they get the structured regiment? The light beings told them how over years of methodology building, which Dan Duvall has the same story, except instead of light beings, it was angels and Jesus teaching methodology. But we'll get to that later. So some of the names that they give for the light beings, because there's different factions and each faction has their own purpose. And I'm not going to get into the specifics, but some of the names are the mighty rescue spirits of light, Mighty men. Kind of on the nose, a little bit. Legions of light. Very on the nose.

[A]

Yeah, there you go.

[B]

Very on the nose. Too much. We got Mercy, Band of rescue angels, Gay warrior angels of light, Also gay. That's the angels you have to call on for different processes. Now, I don't remember which one, but one of these groups are responsible for metaphysically trapping the demon.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

They only do this for demons. And metaphysically, you just. The therapist will say, I call upon you to metaphysically trap this person, and they'll be trapped in a capsule.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[B]

And they'll be in a capsule of light, and that's how they're trapped. And then they'll be like, oh, no, I can't escape. Now we have to channel through this body. And you're still able to channel through the body. So the demons channeled and it'll. It'll put up a little bit of a fight, but it's theatrics, and it's not really that calculated or intelligent Again. And the therapist will. I got to read this part. So the therapist will explain that you've been lied to by your demon overlords. You don't. You don't want this. You ain't ready for this demon life. You don't. You can do better. And he says, the three lies you've been told, which I need to find the page real quick because it's an excerpt. Yes, so he says. He tells every demon this, and this is how they convert. The first deception in the dark realm is that there is no light within the individual being. Once they believe that they are under total subjugation by their dark superiors, they're controlled by threat of annihilation. The second deception is that they can be annihilated, that they can be destroyed, they can cease to exist. The third deception is that the light will harm them, burn them, destroy them, like going to the light, you know, choosing that side. So of course they avoid the light. The dfes, dark force entities, demons, are totally controlled by threat and fear through these three deceptions. So the demons are victims and we need to feel sorry for them and teach them the way. So he tells them this and what happens right after, the demon will go, huh, What? No way.

[A]

I thought that was true.

[B]

And then he literally tells them, this is literally what happens. He says, look inside yourself, Youngin, and you will see the spark of light. So metaphysically, this metaphysical being is looking inside himself, which he never thought to do, of course, and he sees a spark of light. Metaphysically, yes. And he goes, huh?

[A]

What?

[B]

This is beautiful. I'm one of you guys. I'm connected to source, you know.

[A]

This is what all of this always amounts to, though. It's like every horror movie you see, it's always about like you identify this ghost or whatever, this dark spirit, and then it's about freeing it. It's here for some effed up reason. You gotta, you know, get it to go towards the light.

[B]

We need to feel sorry for them because they're victims. Yes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And that's why they tell the same

[C]

story every Marvel movie. So it's like these. If this is the mark, this is going to eat it up though. Yeah, yeah, it's the same demographic. This is. It's disastrous.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Where are we? Okay, so it gets. So this is for demons and he converts and he says, oh boy, I want to be on your side. I want to go to the light. And then they will. I'm going to get to in a second, I guess. Yeah, there's a whole lot here I need to get to. Okay. So whenever the, whenever they convert, I'll get into the group entity release later, which is a really important piece that I'm going to skip over for now. But what happens is after they do this other thing, they ask the angels, these mighty rescue spirits, whatever, to come show up and take them to the light realm. Because now they want to go, they consent, they want to go. And. And they get super nice. The demon helps you out with the thing, which we'll get back to. So when this happens, a weird little funky thing can happen. And basically Baldwin says fake angels will show up sometimes in these metaphysical realms and try to steal the demon back by convincing you they're real angels. They'll do the closing out operations just like the other ones. And then they will, instead of taking them to the light, they'll go, we're gonna take you back to the dark world realm in the world.

[A]

I'm a little trickeroonie.

[B]

But. And. And this makes. This makes him think, oh, I. I see through the deception, right? You know, it's a false testing. The spirit's a false flag. It's a spiritual false flag. So he says black and red are the signal colors for the dfes. The red eyes are a dead giveaway. So if your angel has red eyes, he's a faker. These shape shifters can attempt to impersonate a loved one, a helping angel, even the Christ figure. They can impersonate Christ.

[A]

What?

[B]

I thought you couldn't do that again. But the eyes, the windows to the soul, give them away. In these false gods, the DfE can hold the normal color for no less than a minute. In these controlled visions, by the way, the red begins to show. So he's saying if you're a fake angel, you'll figure it out easy. Just test the spirit. Just have them metaphysically in their third eye, the patient look into the eyes of the demon and they'll. And they can't last for more than a minute. So just make eye contact for a minute and in your mind's eye and boom. Demon exposed.

[A]

I love that they got it figured out. 60 seconds. 60 seconds is the most they can

[B]

hold the illusion for silence. Don't say nothing.

[A]

That's crazy.

[C]

Holding hard eye contact.

[B]

What is trying that right now?

[A]

It's weird, everybody. No, I don't like it.

[B]

So an important detail is he says this can happen multiple times in a row. Multiple fake guys will come through. And then. And then they'll leave because they'll expose them. Let's try another. One fake. Get out of here. Another. He says it happened like five or six times. Once. And I'm like, that's. And then he's like, till a real one can get through. Shut the hell up. No, I don't agree That's. It's a false. It gives him a false. It gives him a false hope of. Oh, I get the deception.

[A]

Yeah, he's got a really bullshit way

[B]

of testing because, yeah, this whole operation is so deceitful that you kind of have to throw him some candy to be like, here, you figure something out. You're so smart. Yes. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You guys want to hear something crazy?

[B]

Go for it.

[C]

I just. My Apple device just got logged in from a poon job. Talking about deceitful entities.

[A]

Are you fucking serious?

[C]

Don't allow.

[A]

Don't allow the poon job. Oh, look, it's on the thing. I don't know if other people could see that. Can you guys see that?

[C]

No, I got to change my password eventually.

[A]

Fuck poon jobs. I really can't stand these poon jobs.

[C]

Oh, please continue, Seth.

[B]

Thank you.

[C]

Demonic entities.

[B]

So now we're going to move on to soul fragments, which is also part of Duval's lore, but we'll touch on it more later with him. Soul fragments and etheric devices. So this is one on soul fragments. It says this is from Baldwin's work. These can be separated from a person and just follow like a balloon on a string. Metaphysically, a mind fragment of a living person can be with another living person as an attached entity. A fragment can remain in the location of the trauma or an especially joyous event. Even the fragment can sometimes be found in a distant location. If a fragment occurred in a prior lifetime, the fragment might still be back there. Slash. Then nearly all of these fragments can be located and recovered in a therapy session, a serious traffic accident. Even a narrowly missed collision can cause a fragment to separate and move toward the light. Assuming it had died because it's confused. It thought it died this part of your soul. Weird. The shock, the emotional impact of the trauma on the psyche can lead to fragmentation of the consciousness, the soul essence. Fragmentation presents a wide door for any passing entity. If there are literally pieces missing, missing from the soul essence of the individual. An entity can easily, easily attach and easily enter and attach a half truth. When you think about the trauma based mind control stuff and how they get the attachments and altars, they think, oh, it's just your altar being its own individual. Yeah. No, that's a cover up for demonic attachments. I'm not saying people don't have altar splits from trauma. I think that's a real thing. But if they're all going along with the lore of this, and yeah, it's demonically controlled ultimately. So people's split Altars are activated and, and that's, that's a demonic thing, in my opinion. And that seems kind of easy to come to that conclusion from a Christian perspective, I imagine. But it's complex lore and I'm very much summarizing it. So then he talks about etheric attack attachments, which are from the aliens. And he says etheric devices of various forms. These can serve various purposes such as control energy drainage, monitoring or blocking spiritual growth. They are typically non physical, but can manifest physical or psychological symptoms such as small energetic devices, often described as crystalline metallic or organic in appearance, implanted in the aura chakras, or physical body used for various research, such as the controlling of appetites for food, drugs, sexual activity, turning the dial up on emotions of choice such as anger, anxiety, et cetera. So basically these are. Have the same exact effect as entity attachments, but they're tech.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And they're controlled by aliens in a lab which only want to just do data and research collection. That's all it is. But he later talks about how it's more nefarious than that in his alien book. But we're going to get to that later. And it's also furthering you from entity attachment in general. Oh, this could be an energy device from an alien. Sure. Instead of I'm just, you know, harassed by demons.

[A]

This is just another example of this spiritual aspect overlapping with the technological aspect,

[B]

showing that the technology interweaves with the, with the spirit and the etheric, which is true to a degree that is a half truth. But they want to have an explanation for these things. It is very elaborate and silly. And they channel aliens through these attachments who are in the lab, but they're channeling through the voice of the patient as if they're an attached entity, which is strange, but it's, it's all metaphysical. There's no barriers in metaphysical law. Of course. And then I'm going to talk about a few little bits of lore that Baldwin says. So he talks about how. No, he. This is a verbatim quote I memorized. He says nobody is ever responsible for somebody else's death because they planned it in their life plan. Right. So he's saying. So that's taking away shame instantly from any nefarious things in the, in the sin realm, completely. Even murder is off. You shouldn't feel bad about it because they asked for it and you planned it in your soul, literally. And they. Yeah, and they planned in their life plan. And that person who murdered you, they had that. They shook your hand in the spirit realm. And planned to do that with you. Your murderers already decided before you lit. Which leaves very little room for free will, by the way. That's silly. And then he talks about little Ashton Heller, Helen Keller's, which, you know, may or may not be a psyop in and of itself, but astral Helen Kellers, we're getting there.

[A]

What is that?

[B]

I'm telling you right now.

[A]

Are they still Jewish?

[B]

They can be on occasion, probably. So I'm interested. Yeah. So he talks about these lost or marooned alien spirits. Not the aliens in the lab, but, like, basically ghosts from alien planets that got lost or marooned on Earth or they came here for vacation. And they will. And they will attach to people. And whenever they're channeled, they'll say, oh, I was just. I just didn't know how to perceive this physical dimension because I don't have the proper apparatus to see it and perceive it because I'm from another whole dimension. And they'll say, oh, I'm just using your eyes and ears. Yeah, whoopsie. I was just. It's all innocent. I didn't mean to do that. And they'll. And then they'll go, okay, little one, you're good to go. Thanks for hanging out with us. And they'll be very nice because they're. They didn't mean any harm. And then you got. Some entities, like aliens who are being channeled will say when you're like, hey, you're harassing this person with your etheric device. You need to get out of here. Get. And then they'll say, oh, we're not doing anything wrong. We're part of Source. We're part of the One. You're part of the One? Yeah, he's part of the One. It's. We're just conscious is experiencing itself, which is what the channel door says constantly.

[A]

And we have our one buddy who was, you know, like, operated on, and they said, you consented to this long ago.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

And then when it just sounds very

[B]

similar, you believe it. Boom. There's consent in the more literal. You go, oh, okay. And then they get their claws and deeper.

[A]

Finish whatever you're doing with my butt then.

[B]

So that logic, to me is very rapey and gross, and I'm not a fan of that stuff. You know what I'm saying?

[C]

It's.

[A]

Go ahead, go ahead.

[B]

And then, hey, hey. Oh, this is a big one. We talked about the astral lore in last episode, and, you know, please listen to that. If you didn't. If you There is no spirit attachment lore in the entirety of astral lore that I can find. There are soul fragment stuff that be split off, but there's no ghost attached etheric energy attachments. There's no, there's no demonic.

[A]

What are you looking at for your sources for astral lore?

[B]

Robert Monroe's work, Kurt Leland's otherware.

[A]

So Robert Monroe doesn't have anything about potentially some parasitic hijacking.

[B]

Close. He does talk about like archon type stuff but he doesn't talk about these random spirits from humans, not higher ascended spirits, the. The archons. He's. He doesn't talk about any humans being stuck, merged with somebody and then, and then being able to not only channel. Well can channel, but that's usually aliens. For Robert Monroe, it's never ghosts that I've seen. But whenever he. The closest thing he has to it is. I'll give you one example. The closest thing he has is where ghosts are harassing people or, or like okay, one story he has where he's going to rescue a ghost and this ghost doesn't know he's dead and he's going to try to bang this live woman while he's in a ghost. And he's got a ghost boner I call a ghoul tool or a boon. Or I like ghoul. Yeah. Anyway, so he, he literally sees this ghost penis on this guy and says some weird things.

[A]

Oh dude, cover that up.

[B]

No, he just kind of complimented the guy anyway, maybe remembering that wrong.

[A]

Nice piece.

[B]

So the ghost guy is trying to get in between two people banging it out and he's like, he's like, oh, if only I could get Tommy out the way, I could get some.

[A]

Right.

[B]

He doesn't realize what's happening. But he, he's like falling through the bed but onto the floor. But it's on a like apartment. So he, he even says, I'm confused why he didn't keep falling through the floor. And it just stopped at the. That was what. He said that. And I thought that was funny. But he. So he's talking to the ghost and explains to him he's dead and he can't bang this lady. He's like, what? But my point is here, this guy's outside of them, failing to get in between them, not merged with them and experiencing through their eyes and through their sensations. Like the SRT lore says they're experiencing what they're experiencing and they're inside of them and merged with them so that there's no merging. Talked about in the astral lore at all by any guides. No one shares that information. But this entire healing process has the exact same cosmology, for the most part, as the astral lore. So how does that coexist? If this ghost isn't going inside this person, he's on the outside, failing to intervene whenever. That. That doesn't make any sense.

[A]

It's crazy that they, they sort of like, I get it, catering your lore to each individual based upon what they're most likely to accept at any given time. But the idea that these things would never be cross referenced, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's kind of.

[B]

That's a deep, very eloquent way to put that.

[C]

Look at, look at half of our world. Nobody cross references anything.

[A]

That's what's really crazy.

[C]

Like circular journalism. Yeah, like somebody reports it, another journalist reports it, another journalist, and now it's fact. This is kind of what they're doing. Yeah, it's the same thing. I mean, used by demons. I suppose so. Same thing.

[B]

Absolutely.

[A]

That's interesting.

[B]

So no cross referencing done. And if you did, it comes very clear in my opinion, and that's what I do throughout my book.

[C]

This is what we've been doing. This is what we've been getting yelled at. It's just like, yeah, we're doing light

[A]

cross references over and over again. They're like, what do you mean if it's demonic? I'm like, I don't know. I'm just looking at the patterns of the alien abduction phenomenon, and then I'm looking at them in comparison to the demonic encounter phenomenon. And I'm finding that they're a one to one. And then I'm going to other people who are doing research, and I'm saying, hey, does this fit your research? And they're going, matter of fact, it does. And I go, huh, fascinating. I don't know, it seems like a pretty standard procedure, cross referencing. All right, so please continue.

[B]

Yeah, let's go. So now we're at world record grudge holders. And this is where I was saying how 50 of ghosts are said to be random. Just oopsie, fell into you. The other half are people you knew. And one example I love is in a past life. Yeah, well, it can be this life that they died, but it's usually past lives. Yes. Now, one example I love is a woman has an attachment and it's the ghost of her ex lover or maybe husband from a past life.

[A]

Okay?

[B]

Now this past life was over 30 of her lifetimes ago. And this entity has Been connecting and connecting to her and merging with her for 30 lifetimes from when? When she go now and then it says, well, what? But she goes to the heaven realms and reincarnates. How does that happen? Oh, no. When she goes to the heaven realms, the ghost waits for her to reincarnate and then reattaches because they contract them via energy signature.

[A]

Bro, that's such a woman thing. Like, women love that. Women love that. They're like, oh, my God, my lover waits for me for 30 lifetimes. How romantic.

[B]

And they know what your thoughts and insecurities and desires are probably catering these stories to things that you would love. Yeah, they are.

[A]

They were like, sometimes he shows up as a minotaur and you guys have sex.

[B]

And I bet. I bet this woman was a fat, lonely woman who wasn't getting, you know, wasn't getting laid enough. And she. She ate this up.

[A]

I know why I'm fat and sad. Because my lover's been trapped in another realm for 30 reincarnations. Yeah. Good God.

[B]

And then. And it's funny because they say that this guy's what was responsible for some of her issues. And one of the issues he was causing was every time she would bang a dude, she would kick them while they're banging. And that was the entity doing that because he was jealous.

[A]

He's like, stop. I've been watching you get porked by dudes for 30 life cycles.

[B]

Our ghosts in the 20s, they can't remember who they are, but this guy can remember his exact life's goal, which is following this woman for 30 lifetimes, which is hundreds of years. And he can be cognizant and hold a grudge for so long or. Or, you know, love or whatever, for so long that he's following this woman even while she's a baby to an old person, even as a man and a woman. That's what's weird. It doesn't make any sense. You want to bang that man for half his lifetimes? Gay. You're a gay ghost.

[A]

Real Ry said, unless you're a sub 5 reincarnated ghost, then she just thinks you're creepy.

[B]

That's true. So. And then sometimes it's someone you murdered in past life, and you're like, oh, you murdered me. And now I'm getting subtle vengeance by energy, you know, affliction for many, you know, years.

[A]

Let it go, dog.

[B]

But it's. It'll be many lifetimes.

[C]

Let it go. You lost.

[A]

Let it go.

[B]

It's crazy. Oh, this is a good one. Okay. This is a very.

[A]

It's funny how people would much rather believe this, though.

[B]

It's. Yeah, it's pretty sad.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Hey, I was into it for a minute. That's how. That's how silly.

[A]

No, I know. I guess it's just like something about, like, there's no way that Christianity could be correct in any meaningful way. Couldn't be, like, value in the Bible and Jesus Christ is. Is a real dude that came and died and overcame death. It must be this other, like, I must have somebody.

[B]

Like the newness of it and the chance.

[A]

They like the newness of it. They also like the idea that they're ahead of the curve.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know what I mean? Like, oh, this has been introduced to me.

[B]

You don't want to backtrack and go to old fuddy duddy Christianity.

[A]

And it's like, dude, only me and like 10 other know that I've got, you know, a love interest for 30 lifetimes. Like, this is a big deal. But everybody else has already been introduced to Christianity every long time.

[C]

Like occulted knowledge.

[A]

Everybody wants the occulted knowledge.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

They want to drink the seed.

[A]

Yeah, they want to drink the seeds.

[B]

All right, here. Do I drink the seed? Well, for the knowledge.

[C]

You've got the knowledge.

[A]

You do have the knowledge.

[B]

And there's only one way to do that. That's drinking the sea, ladies and gentlemen.

[A]

That's right. I do. I look over at sometimes I go box saga. Maybe the way might be. Maybe the way.

[C]

I mean, look, I. I've never written a book that long.

[A]

That's true. I've been storing up the seed. Haven't had the heart to drink it. Haven't heard. Maybe one of these days I'll crack

[C]

a taste for it.

[B]

I'm keeping it refrigerated real quick. Just take it hard. And he's fast. Sorry, sorry.

[A]

No, it's fine.

[B]

I'm an adult male. We're gonna read. We're gonna read. This is from Baldwin's work, and he says when a client discovers a disturbing memory, it can be a past life personality. Though just as often it is the traumatic death of an attached entity telling you just as often, your past life memories can often, often be the ghost attachment. Just like. Just like Wicklin said. Except he's saying, no, reincarnation is real and you can access past life memories. But he says to access past life memories. The safest way to do that, get rid of the attachments first. And when they're all gone, when they're

[A]

all there, then you'll have when the

[B]

coast is clear, you can get the real deal. But the fact that you can ask, you can get others past life memories from these ghosts. The fact that that can happen and you think they're your own because they're so convincing should go again to show you how immersive in the download of it. I know this is me.

[A]

What's the goal, though? It's like if you can find out the. The past life, then you can whatever has been keeping you in the karmic loop.

[B]

It's often you had a traumatic death in a past life memory, like you fell off a building and now you're afraid of heights. That explains your fear of heights. And maybe you have trauma or maybe you have trigger reactions to certain things. Sure.

[A]

But it's like, okay, now I know why I'm afraid of height. Is there is because I know within some of the teachings, it's like if you can integrate whatever happened back then, then you can escape the karmic cycle, stop being reincarnated and go and. And you know, be, I don't know, in some sort of heavenly realm or some like that.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

All right, good.

[B]

Sorry, I'm like locked into my pre planning.

[A]

That's right. Please go ahead. Go ahead.

[B]

You're a great conversation.

[C]

Let's keep it up.

[B]

Thank you, sweet man. Let's go. So sweet man. Thank you. So where are we? This is a fun one. This I skipped over earlier because I'm ordering this poorly. This is where he does group entity release. So this is for demonic attachments. Whenever you have a demonic attachment before they go to the light realm to get rescued or maybe taken away by fake angels, by the way, whenever that happens, you. You will ask, usually the demon who's now converted on your side, he's now your friend. And you will ask him, hey, do me a favor. And he's like, all right, dog, I got you. And he says metaphysically, call upon all your peers as much as you can and tell them to get their asses metaphysically over you right now because it's time to round them up.

[A]

Gotcha.

[B]

And then that's exactly what.

[A]

Narc on your homies.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Okay, he has to narc on the homies, but it's doing them a favor because it's a nice thing. Sure. So he says that only as many. He says that the. The higher level, the entity you're converted, this demon, the more will come because if you're. No one will listen to you unless you're above them, which is a Hilarious little hierarchy detail.

[A]

Yeah, that's. So they all listen to the hierarchy

[B]

the more you get. So sometimes when they get a high level demon, they will call upon what's. They don't give a number, but what seems to be minimum, hundreds of thousands or legions. And I talked about this last time, how they have a vision. They'll see so much coming that it will look like a flow of lava or. Or a bunch of black goo coming at them.

[A]

Because it's so much coming that it looks like.

[B]

Yeah, it's. It's crazy. So what, do I have to read this? Yeah, I do. So. So here's a quote talking about it according to clients in thousands of sessions over the years. It works. It really, really works. That's my words. As these DFEs rush in, clients describe the scene. Like a flood of darkness of, like a river of lava or thick black oil flowing toward the light. Each DFE is encapsulated in light. Each discovers its spark. Each transfer. Each transforms into light. The rescue spirits of light transport them to their own place in the light. This is an awesome visual image to the client in an altered state of consciousness.

[A]

This is like a big twist on salvation, right? Because it's salvation. Now you're hyper focused. Not on salvation of your. Of yourself. Right. Through grace, but you're. You're working. You are the. The way with which countless demons find salvation.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

That's a bizarre version there. That's fun.

[B]

How much time we had? I'm just curious.

[A]

No, we're an hour now.

[B]

Oh, that's not bad.

[A]

Keep going.

[B]

Actually, we're.

[C]

I'll be back in a second.

[A]

Where are you going?

[B]

We're making. All right. Time. All right, good. We're crushing my time with this.

[A]

Nice.

[B]

No, I won't do that. All right, fine.

[A]

Because whatever you want to do.

[B]

I'm. I'm just. I'm sweating over here. All right, so.

[A]

So they're. They're. They're saving countless hordes of demons.

[B]

Yes. Yeah. And that. Now, if that's happening, that means you're doing millions worth of demons of exorcisms in a couple weeks of work. Sometimes on a good week or a good, you know, in his life. So. But which is a healing millions of people. Thank you.

[A]

Okay, so that's where.

[B]

Yeah, those demons can now no longer afflict humans because they're gone. But there's so many. He's done this, like, you know, tons of times. He says Tory has a whole, you

[A]

know, I've saved millions of demons.

[B]

Imagine what that does. To your, you know, noggin. That's. Yeah, it's not a good thing. So I guess I have time for this, actually. Yeah. Yeah, I'll do it. So then there's remote entity release, which is different because this is done. This was bigger in Brazil a while back. I don't know if it's still. But it's remote entity release, and it's similar where it's performed by six mediums. Four will sit in a circle with a fifth in the center. The six is a facilitator, and the facilitator will call out to the spirit interfering with a patient. Now, the patient involved will not be there. It's someone. Like, they'll put in a request to do a exorcism for this person, and they won't even know that it's happening sometimes.

[A]

Okay. So they're just chilling. Somebody else is doing it on there.

[B]

Remote from a distance.

[A]

And is this after Covid.

[B]

This was in the back of the day, man. This is back in the 90s.

[A]

After everybody went remote.

[B]

Yeah. And then the mediums will access and ask the patient. The patient of choice who's not there. They will ask their higher self for approval. In the mind's eye, the mediums will see a. Not a head nod, a pleading call for help. Sometimes a red neon sign saying, yes. That's stupid.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Sometimes it will say no, because the attachment had this part of their life plan for to have this attachment. That's sometimes the case, which is hilarious. So they'll be like, okay, we'll back off. We won't exercise.

[A]

Oh, this wasn't in the plan. Or like, this part wasn't the plan.

[B]

Them being attached was part of the plan. So even that's part of your life plan.

[A]

So then everything. This is like Calvinism, but with the demonic realm.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, everything is on rails. Nothing is happening that's outside of the plan. Because you made this.

[B]

I don't want to say nothing, but they make it seem like there's very little room for genuine free will in big scenarios, at least in your life.

[A]

But then it becomes very hard to determine what is actually free will and what's part of the plan stuff.

[B]

Aren't the deepest searchers of.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You know, here? Well, sorry, guys.

[C]

Is Duval. Is. Is he a Calvinist, or does he.

[B]

I don't. I've never heard him prescribe that label to himself, and I don't. It's possible, but I've never heard him label himself. Maybe he has, but I don't want to say for sure because I'm only speaking facts that I can provide right now. And you know what? Since we're making good time, I'm gonna read some bonus goofy quotes because they're insightful and fun. I don't know if you guys, are

[C]

you gonna reward us because it's a

[B]

little treat for me.

[C]

I'm excited.

[B]

I didn't expect to be making this good time.

[C]

Giving us a bone.

[A]

Thank you, Executive order of Bride Ministries.

[B]

But is he two of y', all,

[A]

by the way, just a little bit of a breakaway? This idea of the pre ademic age. I mean, he's teaching this as if it's biblical fact.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

And he uses scripture to back it up. But it's, it's. And I, I could cover that. I didn't include it in my planning, but it's in my book. But I absolutely could.

[A]

I'm just wondering, like, where are you getting the context for this?

[B]

He uses verses to support it, but it's, it's taking things out of context. And you know, demons are invert scripture, so that's what's going on here. And they fed him this information because

[A]

I don't know what it is. Something about like the pre ademic age is another one of those things that's like sexy, alluring, cool, but like, not really something that's backed by. I mean, even with, with me and the whole what is a demon thing, it's like I'm, I'm. I usually caveat that with. If the book of Enoch is correct.

[C]

Right.

[A]

Which, you know, I mean, doesn't.

[C]

Doesn't Gary Wayne even kind of subscribe to his predemic idea?

[B]

I know Albert, he's an Old Earther. And I, you know, I like Gary Wayne's great, but I do not subscribe to Old Earth anymore. Hydroplate theory. Shout out.

[A]

What is hydroplate theory?

[B]

It's this. There's a three hour breakdown video on it. I got the book. I didn't read it. It's too long, but I'm getting there. It's a Brian Nichols YouTube video on. Hydroplate Theory is a 2 hour, 40 minute breakdown I've watched three times. I understand most of it, but not all of it. And it basically breaks down how the biblical story of the flood was. It explains the science of how catastrophic it was and exactly how we have evidence of this being the case. And it explains more anomalies of our Earth's apparent aging than actual current models do. With the older theories, it explains more things. It Explains where meteors come from and how they are sourced from the flood and how we know, because the. The chemical makeup of them is stuff that's found under our crust, which this whole thing pushes that one. When the flood happened, the crust was 60 miles deep, and something happened to. And I'm not wording it great, but it's. Something happened to spark to where basically giant. Giant geysers exploded under the Earth, causing the water to shoot up so high that water from below, it shot certain stuff into space, like, you know, bits and pieces of Earth, but most of it was just water falling back down as rain. I'm not saying that accounts for all the rain that happened, but it definitely accounted for a lot of the water. And the Bible talks about the great aquifers of the deep or the great fountains of the deep, and those are giant aquifers. Yeah.

[A]

So he's just got to make noises. He passes by.

[B]

He wants to include himself, and I. I'm okay with it. Come on, man.

[A]

It's unbelievable. So do you think that the displacement of some of that matter that was, you know, the Earth crust, once that is removed, facilitates, I guess, maybe more space for this? Because I. I saw somebody say existed

[B]

at this time and that Pangea splitting up was accelerated, not happening over millions of years.

[A]

Okay. Because I saw somebody say, like, if. If Noah's ark was real, what happened to all the water? Then? Where'd all the water go?

[B]

The water was stored beneath the crust. Not all the Earth's water, but a lot of it was stored underneath the crust. And this theory posits that now that Earth, that water layer that was under the crust, is between the mantle and the crust was. Is now above the Earth.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You know it. You know, because it says the mountain, the highest mountain, was covered by 15 cubits, which is like 23ft. But the mountains weren't where they were before, so it's still a lot of freaking water. But it's maybe not as much above Mount Everest where it is today.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But it's the. The video is three hours. If you watch it and aren't impressed thoroughly by its explanation of everything, then use a fair.

[A]

Fair.

[B]

We're gonna. I want to do these bonus goofy quotes.

[A]

Let's go.

[B]

I have so many in the book that I scattered for fun, but these are just some I'm choosing. So this is from Bald? No, this is all from Shakunta Lamodi's work. She has some silly ones. Okay. She says Bridget had a male entity who was mentally retarded it joined her because she always had a great. Enjoyed her because she always had a great deal of compassion for mentally retarded people. Her compassion opened her shield up for him to come in.

[C]

What?

[A]

Dude? So you die and it's like you don't even get healed of being still now you're just a mentally didn't even think that's the best ever. Like all the people that have down syndrome get to look forward to still being that way.

[B]

Your soul's very strong arguments.

[C]

Euthanasia.

[A]

I love saying that.

[C]

Like.

[A]

Like. Like it's not real.

[C]

It's your soul.

[A]

That's. It's not actually something that happened with vaccines or anything like that.

[C]

Hashtag born this way.

[A]

Yeah. Hashtag made that way.

[B]

And if you like that one, you're

[A]

formed in your mother's womb that way.

[B]

Check this out. So Sean, an entity in my patient was a homosexual. After he died of aids, he possessed my patient. He had hated her because she not. She did not want anything to do with him because he was a homosexual.

[A]

Oh my God.

[B]

Now he was determined to take revenge on her. He was determined to give her AIDS by possessing her.

[A]

This is the best ever. What I told you, bro. That's amazing. Buy the book. That's amazing. I'm gonna do. Wait, what was that last one from? What was that quote from?

[B]

From Shakunta La Mode's remarks.

[A]

I knew it when I heard it. I said that Shakunta Lamodi.

[B]

There's another one about gay st. After returning the soul part of that homosexual man to his body, Robert was free of homosexual desires and did not have any sexual confusion. Half truth right there.

[A]

Ah, he casted out that gay demon.

[B]

No, literally, it's admitting to gay demons right there.

[A]

Yeah. That means it's a gay dude. Yeah, dead gay dude.

[B]

Not there's anything wrong with being possessed by a gay.

[A]

So does that mean there's demons?

[B]

There can be.

[A]

And there is, I'm sure demons and gay demons.

[B]

But she wanted to make this book serious. And I'm. I'm picking out the silly part parts.

[A]

That's the best parts. It sounds like.

[B]

Oh, here's a silly one. In the nursery, a ghost. It's talking about a ghost named Tony. But it's not the worst. In the nursery, he ghost named Tony.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

A newborn crying. He liked babies and wanted to comfort this baby. Somehow he ended up inside the baby and couldn't get out.

[A]

Pedophile baby. Pedophile ghosts.

[B]

Pedophile ghosts.

[A]

Gay retarded. Pedophile ghost.

[B]

You're on the earth plane because you're obsessed and he's obsessed with babies. Like a real moment source would allow him to attach.

[A]

But that's maybe that's up. That's not a demon.

[B]

That's just my mouth.

[A]

Come on now. This is a Christian library slash studio slash fabrication shop.

[B]

All right, we're moving. Hey, we're on some crazy stuff right now. It's gonna get even crazier.

[A]

Gay retarded pedophile ghosts.

[C]

Can we get back to Dan Duvall?

[A]

I want to kill him.

[B]

So I know it's important, but I have to preemptively do this before I get to him.

[A]

It's very important to talk about the gay retarded pedophile ghost before we talk about Dan Duvall, which I agree with.

[B]

You're.

[A]

You're just not picking up ketchup, man. Come on.

[B]

Okay, okay.

[C]

No, it's fine.

[B]

It's fine. We're gonna do the alien stuff now. And that's from ce.

[C]

You're laying the groundwork for you

[B]

ce. Six Closing counters of possession kind. It's. It's a hard book to acquire, but a PDF might be available on our Internet archives.

[A]

That's fascinating.

[B]

I had to print it myself. It was a whole thing. Okay. I. I do crazy stuff like that. So this is moving on to his source. These next few. You what.

[A]

To hand write these.

[B]

So this is from that book, which is six years later, 1998. It came out after his manual. So he has more information, more data, more than he did before.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And before it was very few aliens. And after a while, he started getting a lot more aliens.

[A]

Like maybe aliens.

[B]

Yeah. So I gotta break down the lore. And he. I'm just gonna read some excerpts. He says, as our human scientists probe and dissect animals to learn the secrets of life on Earth. So also do some of the extraterrestrial SC Scientists claim to be. Who claim to be conducting experiments with human beings.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

They have implanted physical and non physical probes and various types of communicating and monitoring devices into the humans for the sole purpose of gathering information and more. Though some of these implanted devices, the aliens seem to be able to control the emotions. And other devices control appetites for food or alcohol or sexual activity. Kind of like a demon. In some cases, the anger function is turned up. In others, the fear is intensified. Then the experimenters observe what happens to human behavior and personal interactions.

[A]

I just got. Let me stop it because you said we're making good time.

[B]

Time.

[A]

And I just want to highlight this because this is an unbelievable example of the patterns that emerge in demonic encounters versus alien encounters. When I say it's nearly a one to one, I don't mean that as, as a, you know, sarcastic or, or anything like that. It's like, so these things have the ability to increase addictions, right?

[B]

Increase your urges, give your intrusive thoughts, like, control those.

[A]

Also your emotions make you angrier, you

[B]

know, more, more, more horny.

[A]

It's the same exact phenomenon. It's the same exact phenomenon. And people, I mean, you know, it's just, I, you have to see it from my perspective. I've been fighting with retards on the Internet for the last three days.

[C]

I've been fighting with Horny.

[A]

No, not with Horny. I've defeated Horny. I've.

[B]

I've overcome Horny on the knife's edge of it right now.

[A]

I'm currently battling with Horny.

[B]

I'm pretty much there.

[A]

I've arrived. But yeah, man, it's crazy because people, people think that it's just some, I don't know, like, antiquated Christian ideology that's trying to grasp onto something that's more profound than Christians have the ability to tangle with. And it's like. No, not at all. Actually, it's the same exact phenomenon. And the way that we can determine that is just by observing the nature of it and all of the patterns that it adheres to or, or displays and how it's a one to one to the demonic encounter phenomenon. It's, it's, it's a little frustrating. I've been dealing with it quite a bit and people don't want to see it because, you know, their church hurt or they think Christianity's gay, which, you know, maybe the church is to blame for that.

[C]

I don't know.

[B]

I'm gonna give you a gold star.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Anyway, one sentence left before you cut me off rudely. That says they go ahead, let it go. They seem to be able to interfere or control any aspect of mine or part of the physical body, which is what we just said. But it's clarifying. They know this. They admit to this.

[A]

But it's not semen.

[B]

No, it's. No, of course not. No, they're not spaceship and they just want to get your data. They're data harvesters. Wait, that's a demonic thing too? That's weird. Yeah. Anyway, moving on to. I call this High Command through Janet.

[A]

Janet.

[C]

The is Janet that.

[B]

I mean. Well, you're about to find out, brother. So in this case, she is Janet is a patient and she's channeling an alien. And this is one of his first encounters with these aliens. And she's channeling it through the etheric devices is. Right. Connected via black cord, which is what they call it. Similar to the astral bodies. Etheric silver cord. Right.

[A]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking of saying.

[B]

It's the same thing, but it's just technology.

[A]

It's a different color.

[B]

So this is the conversation they have. I don't know if I want. I kind of want one of y' all to read the other part, but.

[A]

Go ahead, give it to me.

[B]

I think it'd be funner. Do you want to do the therapist or you want to do Janet and. Hi.

[A]

Oh, you want to do it?

[C]

Okay, I'm a little set here.

[A]

I'll do the therapist.

[B]

Okay, cool. Okay, cool. So that's Dr. B. And then I'll be the E.T. okay, I'm Dr. B. Yeah, so read 76. Starting with how many such you know.

[A]

76. What the hell are you talking about?

[B]

Page 76.

[A]

This is page 78.

[B]

How many such members.

[A]

That's where you start on page 78. Oh, no, no, I'm sorry.

[B]

Six.

[A]

How many such members of the human race have you treated this way?

[B]

About 3,000.

[A]

This is a violation of an intelligent species. You have no right to interfere this way.

[B]

We did not know we were interfering with.

[A]

Okay, but there's more. You have to keep going.

[B]

No, that. Okay, that's actually narration. Sorry.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

You do that.

[A]

No, that's gotta be top. All right, fine.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Drawing from the realm of science fiction, I tried to imagine.

[C]

Narrate.

[A]

This is his show because I'm doing it. I tried to imagine the organization of such a group of beings. I took a chance and plunged ahead. Cross, connect us with your headquarters. We want to speak to your High Command. A few moments passed and Janet straightened in her recliner. Her voice took in, or took on a different tone. The manner was almost imperious.

[C]

Are you.

[A]

Are you a high command?

[B]

I was gonna do that. Okay. I'm trying to think of a funny voice and now I'm embarrassed because I don't think I got one.

[C]

Do your regular voice.

[B]

What is it you want?

[A]

Okay. Your scientists have placed probes in 3, 000 human beings without consent.

[B]

Yes. They are gathering data.

[A]

You are gathering data from an unwilling subject. You aren't aware of the concept of non interference. There is to be no interference with other sentient species.

[B]

Yes, we are aware. We did not mean to interfere Only to gather data.

[A]

We are a sentient species. We protest this intrusion.

[B]

What would you like us to do?

[A]

We request that you withdraw your probes from every human being on this planet. This was a request, not a demand. I had nothing to enforce such a demand. There was some hesitation, as if there was a discussion being carried on in the background. My skeptical mind asks, if any of this were true, why do they talk to me? And why would they be willing to do what I ask? These questions are always with me in an altered state session. My skepticism remains alive and well. This guy is retarded. Why would you. Why would you think like you could be. Hold on a second. What about the non. What is it? The non. Interference.

[B]

What about this paper?

[A]

What about this paper?

[C]

You signed.

[A]

Didn't you know that? You can't. It's against galactic regulation.

[B]

Think of this.

[A]

We're a sentient species. We don't consent. What a.

[B]

It's pretty. It's pretty.

[A]

I love that. I'm glad.

[B]

Thanks for taking in. That was.

[A]

No.

[B]

I will need you again soon.

[A]

Okay, fine.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Is it 78? Page 78.

[B]

Yeah. So I'm continuing with. I call this. No, I'm literally your space brother. And Baldwin says, I suspected an attached entity. Her tears finally subsided, and an entity was able to speak through Carla's voice. It claimed to be her brother in another existence on another planet in a different solar system. He followed her to this system when she. When she chose to come to the planet Earth to incarnate. He did not want to endure the whole process of becoming a human in his own body as she had done. The rigamarole. It's too much. He had bypassed that step. Now he wanted her to withdraw so he could live through her body or at least move aside so he could take over. With very little explanation, he realized the harm he was doing to his sister and whom he loved, and yet wanted to dominate in the chauvinistic manner.

[A]

What?

[B]

I'm sorry. As he recounted their life on this home planet in a distant space and time, Carla also recalled the love they had shared and then began to weep again, this time for the joy over the memory. The memory she accessed in the sadness over the loss. This was, in effect, a dual past life regression, both beings remembering the same prior existence on another planet.

[C]

No, no. This is just awesome.

[A]

I love this.

[B]

Getting a vision of a past life memory on an alien planet with her space brothers.

[A]

Yeah. Who wants to chauvinistically dominate her Crying.

[B]

This is crying.

[C]

These are the people you're arguing with online.

[A]

Yeah. These are the people that I'm arguing with. Shout out to Danielle. That fat.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Oh, my God. This is literally maybe about her exact story. This is crazy. So anyway, he wanted. He literally said now he wanted her to withdraw so he could live through her body. That's not. That's not what a demon would do.

[A]

Said, what are you doing, Stephanie?

[B]

Or at least step inside your conscious.

[A]

That's funny as hell.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Good job, Zman.

[B]

Thank you, Z Man. That was what's nice.

[A]

I see you mentioned.

[C]

Do you think that there's a correlation between white woman enjoying movies about rape.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Shows about rape. And then this concept, like this type of religion. Because it's the same thing.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I mean, the. The. The people who enjoy it are very similar.

[C]

Rape centric people.

[A]

Rape centric people. People that are often, you know, daydream about getting dominated show chauvinistically by their step brothers. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. It is one of the most searched porn categories according to the Internet.

[A]

What is alien step stuff?

[B]

I was like, alien is like the. Oh, family friendly incest thing.

[A]

What are you doing, step brother? We need.

[C]

We need a subsection of alien incest.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. That's a. That's a huge boy.

[B]

If I had a small untapped market.

[A]

So. So what do you. You mentioned Whitley Striber here. Streamer in the following transcripts. The following transcripts from a session where a woman named Laura is relaying her recovered abduction memories describing the typ examinations and procedures along with an implant. If these are her real or screen memories, it's hard to say. But we do know these happen due. These happen due to medical examiners finding physical implants. Oh, sure. Such as? Oh, striper had a.

[B]

An implant and a physical. He got it removed. It was on doc. It's very documented.

[A]

Interesting. I wasn't aware of that.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

All right. So where are we going from here?

[B]

Oh, it's not done, brother. We got step brother. Please. No. So let's see. I wanted to.

[C]

Fans love you, Seth.

[B]

I love you too, guys.

[A]

I want to wrap my hair around his neck and bring him to a point of asphyxiation that he may never recover from. Oh, that's nice.

[C]

From I am gay.

[A]

From I am.

[B]

Are you a black woman? Are you black?

[A]

Are you black? Are you black? Amazing.

[B]

I'll. I will. I'll take you up on that. I almost did braids today. I was so close.

[A]

You almost did what?

[B]

I really good in braids.

[A]

Oh, I was going to do braids before I cut all my hair off. But I just. Yeah. Oh, there's a lot of them that watch the show. I never did, though. Okay, so. So where are we going now?

[B]

We're going. I was gonna read this one, but it's kind of long. And we're just gonna summarize it, basically, what happens this one. So in this one, this animals being. This aliens being channeled. And it is. It is. Okay. No, it's a memory. It's a. It's a memory of an abduction. This lady's reliving a memory. So in a memory you shouldn't have autonomy, Right?

[A]

Sure.

[B]

But in this memory, she's reliving. Dr. Baldwin asks her to try to communicate with the alien in the memory while she's reliving it. And guess what happens? That exactly happens. And she ends up having a conversation with this entity and it asks it

[A]

to back up an entity that's accessed through a memory.

[B]

Through. And yes, because it's met. Their excuse for it is just like astral travel, how you can travel in time and there's no time. It's like remote viewing. How you can remote view the future or past, like, with no problem. It's the same thing. They're saying, oh, you always did this and you were always going to do this, so it happened. So you did it in the future, so it happened in the past.

[A]

And. But now they're so.

[B]

So time travel baloney. It's malarkey.

[A]

This is like remote viewing and then communicating with something that's there, but you

[B]

already were gonna do in the future, which is why it happened in the past is what they're saying.

[A]

For sake, man. People will believe anything but Jesus. Yeah, right. Like, it's crazy the. That people are willing to believe, like,

[C]

Jesus is just so much easier.

[A]

My God. All right, I'm getting tired.

[C]

Just like. Like with the testimony.

[A]

I mean, I. I enjoy the. The testimony. That's fascinating. My goodness.

[B]

All right, I'm having a good time. Where are we at? We are at. I really. You know what? Where are we at?

[A]

Time?

[B]

Where we at?

[A]

Oh, we're good. It's an hour and 17.

[B]

You know what? That's not bad at all.

[A]

I gotta make a piss. Continue making.

[B]

Okay, I'll pick a boring one.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Relatively. Okay, so in this one, I'm just gonna read. I'm just gonna read the excerpt. This is a conversation with an alien. Of course. The alien expressed his longing to return to duty with his old crew. He was, like, lost in space. The narrative of his adventures was a Shocking revelation. It seems the alien group would discover a planet they wanted, then make a drop on the major inhabited area. A bomb, you know, like a nuke or something. This meant inflicting total devastation on a city or primary population center. They would then contact the leaders or rulers and declare they were taking over the planet. Any objections? If there was any resistance, the aliens would drop. Would launch another drop. End of objections. No more resistance. Take over the planet. Now, if you're not really aware of the alien lore and you have a very surface level view of what you think aliens would be like, you would probably consider something like that, where there's. Why would they waste all this time with elaborate infiltration via using people as proxies and doing all this elaborate long con stuff. Why not just do a bomb thing? That's so easy. And why haven't they done that? Because they're not aliens and they're nephilim. But that's, you know, it's just saying this is. They're. They're pushing that. This happens in other planets now. Where's the Galactic Federation that's supposedly protecting the. The stuff from happening? I. I imagine they'd be nearby and able to take care of this. And there's no such thing as time. It's all made up. So how can they not get to there in time? They're letting a whole planet get bombed. That's a shitty Galactic Federation if I ever heard of one. Do you have any questions, brother?

[C]

No questions. Keep going.

[B]

That's right. Good answer. All right, so I call this one. Southern Hospitality is Universal reversal. We always seek to connect with the highest ranking leader, the Commander in Chief, the space commander, crew leader, or the science officer which can be summoned and he will respond. Like they get to the alien in the lab and then they say, hey, cross connect us to high command or whatever. They literally say these things, as you know. And they will always answer the phone, but I got to get back to the quote. So he says. And they will respond. This always surprises me. Why do they bother to answer my questions? Lines of communication seem to exist between. Between all members of this alien bureaucracy. Bureaucracy, bureaucracy, bureaucracy. As they speak, the client can repeat the words in our language. They may reveal that they are under orders and are part of a fleet of several such craft on similar missions around the Earth. They can cross connect with the deep Space Station base headquarters on their homeworld or their ruling body, whether it's a military cabal or a civilian council. The client can repeat the words of the alien leaders as they Respond in an altered state. This kind of channeling is easily accomplished in a number of these cases. The base commander has acknowledged the intrusion and agreed to remove the technicians, the equipment, probes, communication devices, any implants, etc, they seem to do. They seem eager to do this and offer an apology for the interference, often a request for forgiveness and a hearty thank you for the new awareness regarding their fruitless research efforts.

[A]

This sounds like the foundational basis for the Galactic Federation of Light. Like this.

[C]

That's kind of what he was just describing.

[A]

Yeah. This exact thing that people are communicating with eventually becomes an entire. Oh, we're going to be saved by, you know, an alien species that's going to liberate us from our, you know, whatever. But, but. And we're going to ascend and take our place among the Galactic Federation. Like that's what this turns into.

[B]

That is what it's trying to get you to come to that conclusion, essentially. And I'm on the last part of this. Thank you so much. I'm on the last excerpt that I want to share.

[C]

In a sense, they do. That's kind of what they want.

[A]

Nocturnal emissions.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Ejaculatory, they want.

[B]

But you also want to ejaculate. What do I choose?

[A]

Which way? Western man got a squirt, right?

[B]

No, you get.

[A]

You don't have to squirt. You don't have to squirt. No, we don't have. You don't. That's not the message we're trying. You don't have to squirt, guys.

[B]

No squirting allowed.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

You. Anyway, this is the last excerpt I'm going to share and it is probably my law. It's my longest one, but it's. It's the craziest one. It's. This one's super fun. Yeah. So it says the technician simply turns up the volume on some aspect of human emotion or behavior and records what happens with the human subject as if they don't already know by now. This behavior or emotional.

[A]

Really, I don't know, make them mad again. Yeah, yeah, write that down. Write that down. Yeah, yeah.

[B]

They got divorced.

[A]

Like, what happened?

[B]

I didn't see that coming.

[A]

He beat his kid. He beat his kid. They got divorced. Force. Yeah, write that down. Take that down. Come on, dude.

[B]

So, yeah, he says this behavior or emotional outburst causes anguish in the human. This is the desired result. The anguish is the underlying goal of the project. And this is where he's at the end of the book, coming to conclusions, that it's actually deeper Than data. It's about loose harvesting. He says the energy emanation of the anguish of the human suffering is harvested by the dfes. It is used as energy sustenance, food. It seems the enemy experiment is a cover for the activity of the dfes. This is the true purpose of the research conducted by the aliens. In most such cases of ET attachment where such group is operating, the ship captain or the base commander may be evasive, deceitful, even defiant and refuse to move the intrusive devices of alien beings. They will usually divulge information that there is a high dark being who controls their people. A client will usually describe a sinister and menacing dark figure on the crowd craft, clearly exerting powerful control and always situated near the ship's captain. A visual is constant in this scenario.

[A]

This is just a weird ass Star Trek imagine like the. The. Whatever it is, like the Space Voyager team. We're just showing up to alien species and like making him mad and making them squirt like. That's a weird. That's a much stranger show than just regular. It was a starship Enterprise. I'm sorry, not the Void Ranger.

[B]

This is why you're the host.

[A]

Because I can't remember the name of. I actually have never watched Star Trek. Wait, what did you just say?

[B]

Me or him?

[C]

I don't know you. What are you saying, Levin? I'm confused. Let's continue.

[B]

That was stupid. All right. So. So continuing. He says the ET technician is usually unaware of the dark influence the commander is of. The spacecraft is conscious of the dark presence in only about half of such cases. Many cases of this by the way. The ruling council members on the Homeworld are aware of the dark Lords in charge at various levels. They acknowledge that they or their predecessors in the council struck an alliance with the dark forces long ago. Sounds familiar. For the purpose of gaining personal and political power.

[A]

What?

[B]

However, once that dark contract was established, the DFEs took power over the council. The DFEs assume ownership of the alien civilization and there was nothing that could be done about it. It. The council members usually range from 3 to 11 in number. Though once it was reported a Senate of 1800. Council members are grateful for the assistance in separating themselves and their citizens from the dfes. With the assistance of many light beings, we facilitate a total removal of DFEs from the lowest DFE to the attached to the ET technicians through the dark lords on the craft. The hot and the high level dark beings wielding power over the council members and the Overseers or enforcers who lurk behind the scenes after the release of the dfes from their civilization, the Cloud. The Council gladly orders the removal of the implants, monitors, communication devices, various and assorted headbands and skull caps. And the ET technicians, they were. They ordered the return of all the craft orbiting this world and any other and the space stations involved in this hideous project. A tremendous piece of work is completed in a very short time. The effect unconsciousness can't be measured. Wizard, he's exercising entire planets, dozens of times. Entire planets. Exorcisms.

[A]

Geez, man.

[B]

And I do a hilarious bit about it for like a page after that. So you better buy the book because it's so fun.

[A]

I mean, it's just. It just seems so profoundly. It's. It's not that people are getting healed

[B]

in it, so it seems convincing it to that degree.

[A]

Right. And then there's. There's like, you know, this like, hero aspect, like you're doing something good, so thereby you should keep doing it.

[B]

I go on a whole page about how his ego is out of control.

[A]

You're special. You're special.

[B]

Multiple wives. And. And he's. And he doesn't do a catch with his son because he's exercising, you know, space, Billy. You know, it's.

[A]

It's a whole thing, man. I. It's remarkable because, you know, within the. The critique about Christianity, the critique is usually like, oh, you believe a guy rose from the dead. I don't think you can put. Put any sort of limiter on people's capacity to believe in crazy. I don't think it's the crazy that's the problem. You know what I mean? I think it's just disdain for Christianity because otherwise it's pretty evident to me, just based off of what the. You're reading, human beings will believe pretty much anything.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If it's profound enough. If it's.

[B]

If it's, you know, healing during a crazy visual where you're channeling an entity, the. The only other conclusion you can come to is what I'm saying, which is 2 too much for them to accept. So they'd rather accept the crazy stuff because it feels better.

[A]

Oh, you got a real problem. If you do accept what you're saying, you're like, okay, this thing that I'm interacting with has the ability to fabricate this entire scenario.

[B]

Doing these healings were mostly already New Agers and already spiritualist to a degree. And they already believed in the stuff because they read channeled books and astral travel stuff. A lot of Them.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Right. So you got to keep in mind, they're already prepped.

[A]

They had that foundation.

[B]

They did, and they're giving you things that they think you'll accept. And all these people seem to accept it. So they're. You know, it's. It's not. It's not. It's crazy, but, you know, the real world we live in is also almost equally crazy.

[A]

No, I know. That's what I'm saying.

[B]

Smaller scale.

[A]

It's never. It's never. Because an idea is too wild. Because people's ability to accept a wild idea can never be underestimated. We're willing to accept a lot, including exercising entire planets. You know, that's.

[B]

That's.

[A]

That's pretty impressive.

[B]

And like I said, very hard book to acquire. Maybe a PDF you can find. But I think if people read that thing, it'll show you just like.

[A]

What's it called?

[B]

C E v I C E6.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Close Encounters. The of the possession kind. And it's not a long book, and it's filled with crazy stuff like that. And I just took a few, but we are done with that. And guess what? It's Dan Duvall. Defamation. Trial time.

[A]

All right, let's go. Let's kill Dan Duval.

[B]

Air horn. Thank you. You gotta get a soundboard.

[A]

We have a soundboard. It doesn't wanna.

[B]

Where you at? Delayed but Worth it. So, Dan Duvall, you're gonna see a lot of parallels in the coming lore that I'm getting into. And we will talk about. I guess we should start with. So he's a Christian, apparently, and he's. He uses scripture to back up his actions. And it's very, very ambiguously done and loose. And he. Like I said, he's doing the same operation, except instead of channeling through voice, it's. The patient is telepathically communicating with these same entities, seeing visuals the whole time time, communicating with them and relaying the words back to Dan, who is then doing prayers and commands to angels and Jesus on the outside.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So he usually starts out with asking them to invite Jesus into their inner world. He calls it inner world. But the inner world is just the current vision being happening. And this is where you encounter these entities and can encounter them metaphysically instantly based on prompting. So the therapist prompts the right stuff. You say the right prayers, you get the right results. Sure. And he. He asked them to bring Jesus on the scene so that he can help in the deliverance process. And angels. But we'll get into the specifics. So one Thing he talks about is cosmic soul trafficking. Now, not your soul, but your soul fragments. Remember soul fragments from earlier? It's the same thing.

[A]

This is actually an episode that he did with Merkel not that long ago. Oh, yeah. And I kind of peripherally heard. I think it was. Listened to it while I was doing something. So it's like, you know, you passively listen to an episode.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I don't remember too much about it, but it was like trafficking soul or soul fragments in the second.

[B]

You remember?

[A]

No, I don't remember. Who was.

[B]

Aliens. Literal aliens.

[A]

Literal aliens are doing the traffic now.

[B]

Maybe demons, too. I don't remember, but I know it was for aliens for sure. And they're selling it to other planets and solar systems. And why would they. Why would they want our soul? What the.

[A]

He was saying they're selling, like, I

[B]

don't know if it's for money. I think it's for. What was it for? Nocturnal emissions, I think. Think technology, too, and stuff. I don't want to say. I don't. I don't.

[A]

But there was an exchange. They were exchanging it. Okay.

[B]

It's traded. And I don't. I don't know what for exactly. He might have said it, but I don't remember.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And he talks about this and says that. What does he say? He talks about, you know, soul fragments. Plenty. And they are traded so that the people getting them can now influence you from a distance, just like everything else. Now, why would they care that much about that? Oh, for the scientists. Aliens gathering data. That makes sense.

[A]

Guns.

[B]

But he's already exercised multiple planets of these. Of these aliens, and we still got endless amounts of abductions happening. So that's weird. And interference. So, you know, I guess he didn't get the right alien. Demonically possessed alien groups. So he talks about soul trafficking. But in the SRT lore, soul fragments are never talked about as a trafficking organization. When Duvall has witnessed over a hundred, he says of people claiming this. And he says he finds them in locations such as says in the rings of Saturn. Saturn worship. Weird. In the Pleiades, in the Orion area.

[A]

Dude, hold on. Dan Duvall is saying that he is. Where is he going? Where is he going? He's going there astrally.

[B]

No, he's not going there. His patient, in their mind's eye, is having a remote viewing type vision. Out of body, sort of, but it's more remote viewing style where they're getting a vision and they're seeing. They're seeing themselves and their soul fragment locked up, up. Sometimes in dungeons on other planets. He says. And he says no. He says he finds them on serious colonies in space. He says he finds them in mining operations off planet, which by the way, secret space program correlation right there. It's the same lore they're pushing now.

[C]

Seth, what's the name of this technique that he's claiming to use? What exactly?

[B]

Prayer ministry.

[A]

It's just.

[B]

What?

[C]

No. Is there like a video of him doing this or is it all proprietary?

[B]

I can't find a single freaking video of him doing it. I have plenty of content of him talking about his operations and he, it's hard to find him talking about his actual. Here's what I do and here's what they say and this and that. I had to go in and listen to 40 plus hours of his material just to find bits and nuggets scattered because he doesn't want to tell everybody if. Because he knows how it will be received. He is very aware of how it will be received because he's had people call him out for being an occultist before Carolyn, Hamlet and Laura. He had a whole lawsuit with these people calling him out who used to work for him, who left his practice for slander, libel.

[A]

Well, if you have, there's a clip here. I, I, we don't have to play it.

[C]

But he wouldn't, would he have an issue with what you're saying?

[B]

Like it seems, oh my God, he would poop his pants.

[C]

But are you, are you defining it accurately, in your opinion?

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

If I, and if there's parts that I am slightly off or not sure about, I will say that. But I have verbatim quotes all throughout the book and I'm going to get into the quotes directly. But it took a while to accumulate all this because I had to write notes while listening to him talk constantly. When I heard anything that was like, like this stands out as very sci fi and aligning with other things, I wrote it down and then I just examined it for.

[A]

But this is, I mean, even on the confessionals, his entire episode is titled Is there a Fallen Angel Network Trafficking Human Souls in the Second Heaven? No, but that, I mean, but just to your point. Yeah, yeah, the, that you're saying it sounds crazy.

[B]

Well received by a lot of people and Christians.

[A]

Well, because there was somebody in the audience before who's like, I've never heard that. But here he is. He's on. I mean, that title. Is there a Fallen Angel Network Trafficking Human Souls in the Second Heaven? Like, like, I mean, that's A really big claim. So the idea that people are going to what, the rings of Saturn to

[B]

retrieve soul fragments metaphysically transporting there because there's no barriers in metaphysical movement. It's like remote viewing.

[A]

Sure, yeah.

[B]

And then they will see their soul fragment locked up in literal glass jars sometimes or in.

[A]

Who put them there?

[B]

The trap. The. The traffickers, the aliens. Often aliens. And I don't know if it's outside of that demonic tube.

[C]

Well, it's demon fragment, meaning just a part of this.

[B]

The same ones that you have to ask to reintegrate to yourself. But we're going to get into that.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So. And to. They're getting them and then reintegrating them. This is just like shamanic type healing, which. Yeah, I'm going to touch on later where they go and astrally they go and find your soul fragment located somewhere. Never on these other planets and rings of Saturn. And they go bring them back to you and you feel better. It's stupid. So hold on.

[A]

Mason's interrupting the show. Go ahead, say it out loud, Mason. Yeah, that's right. All right, continue.

[B]

So then we have. So that's contradicted to SRT lore because they don't. They have tons of soul fragment encounters. Never once is it an organized, like organized trafficking ring.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Ever. But Dan Duvall's gotten it dozens of times.

[A]

So same deception, just with some added layers. Yeah, just.

[B]

Okay, just a little bit more in there now. Then he talks about council breaking method. And I'm gonna a. There's a. I have two or three pages on this. I'm not going to go into the whole thing, but it is. I'll read a little bit because it's kind of important.

[A]

Council breaking method.

[B]

Well, because a lot of these things aren't just attachments. It's attachments that are legally allowed to stay because councils ordered it from other planets.

[A]

But this is the claim that they're making. So this is very similar spirits and stuff. Right. But this is a similar thing that you would tell a victim in order for them to be like. Like this has been legally. What would you call it, allowed or. Or something to that effect.

[B]

Yeah, because they decided against it. But whenever you confront them, them with how it's immoral or wrong or. Or in the name of Jesus, boom. They go, okay, you got us. And they. They let go.

[A]

That's so interesting. That's very much like when chat GPT won't generate the thing for me the right way. And I go, can you do it the way that I said?

[B]

It, it goes, all right, you got me.

[A]

Yeah, it literally says that. I'm like, what the hell?

[B]

Because you got the authority of Jesus on your side. The real, the real guy, you know,

[C]

that's what I'm gonna use next. It doesn't want to generate the images

[A]

in the name of Jesus Christ. Generate the image. Demonic piece. Yeah.

[B]

How'd you know? All right, so a quote from him talking about these councils says there are usually councils of three or five or nine behind these things. Behind these things, Giving them governmental authority. So instead of renouncing individual things, we started renouncing whole councils. Asking, what are the councils overseeing this activity? Some councils worked for DARPA or a three letter agency or satanic group. Sometimes it was a spiral council of ascended masters. Once we started to address. Once we started to address the council, the governing bodies, we started to see major breakthroughs in people.

[A]

Okay, so what do you think that is? Is that them just like adding a layer of deception? Like, okay, let's let them think they really broke through and have some authority over us.

[B]

Mixing in with new age lore to kind of combine them and try to f. Which they don't combine. But you're trying to convert this Christian mysticism towards agnostic. Yeah, you know, wouldn't promote Gnosticism publicly, but he basically is with his Lord and cosmology. He's pushing and connecting the two worlds so that people who see the same things go, oh, this is the same thing. Just in case anybody finds what I found without as much detail as I brought and seeing, oh, maybe it's the same thing. And not dissecting the details as much. I think that's one of the main reasons.

[A]

Aren't you worried that Dan Duvall's gonna kill you?

[B]

You know, he does seem like the type, but, you know, I'm either protected by God for this divine mission or I'm a dangerous who's going to be killed. And that's okay.

[C]

But if you ask for it in the past life.

[A]

Life, that's true. You might have consented this to the. To a pat. This might be part of the plan.

[B]

Everything's part of the plan.

[A]

Amen.

[C]

So why are you, why are you complaining?

[B]

I didn't complain. He said, I'm gonna get killed. I said, okay, that's fine.

[A]

That's true. I mean, it was just kind of like that.

[B]

But they would keep in mind the people, the people getting this, you know, the patients are getting a vision of being taken to a council chamber or encountering beings they perceive as aliens. Hybrid Entities, interdimensional beings. And the client may describe what the entities are saying or claiming. Saying. It's been assigned to me since birth. They're showing me a contract. Yeah, familiar. There's a lot more on that, but I'm going to skip ahead because I

[A]

just wanted to get into that just once again. It just reminds me though, of Colin's story where it's like, you consented to this long ago.

[C]

Right, Right.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Interesting. There's an interesting endemic memory, not your

[B]

past life, because they're not the same thing.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Now here's a really blasphemous one. This is, is where Duvall admits most of his methodology originates from channeling entities claiming to be angels. And here's a conversation that he claims to have had with the Jesus Christ summarized during an interview. So this is him verbatim, but he's

[A]

describing who's having this conversation with Jesus.

[B]

Oh, via a patient. Channeling it, but not.

[A]

Okay, cool.

[B]

Yeah, I. I want to know what Jesus has to say.

[A]

So Dan Duvall claims to have talked to Jesus through a pit.

[B]

Mostly angels, but often Jesus. Jesus. Now he. This is Dan verbatim in the interview, but he's relaying the conversation in a, you know, shortened way.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So he says, is Phil, which is the patient's altar, actually part of this patient's identity? And then Jesus says no. And then Dan says, is Phil an angel? Jesus says, yes. You mean to tell me I've been getting dynamics of programming altars and how to address certain issues explained to me by. Over months by an angel.

[A]

Angel. Whoa.

[B]

After that I started. After that I started to meet many more and other people that I would sit down with would have different angels that would come forward.

[A]

Geez, man.

[B]

So he's getting his methodology from angels and Jesus.

[C]

Sure.

[B]

Over many months and admits to that. Now, if these methods are belong. Nah. Then that means use a. And we're gonna kill you.

[C]

Right.

[B]

So. So I just felt that that's important because people don't know he's channeling Jesus. And I think everybody should know to how. How important he is.

[A]

Yeah, that's. I think that a lot of people, you know, Christians that, that are kind of riding with this guy's ideologies here. If you heard that, that might put a good, you know, a healthy pause in your, in your steps towards at the very least.

[B]

And if it doesn't, then you're. You've got a lot of problems you're going to deal with.

[C]

He's presented it in such a way where like, he gives you just enough information to kind of give you this fascinating stuff, but never really tell you what he thinks.

[A]

Thinks, which is.

[B]

I mean, he skirts around topics expertly. Expertly in a way that I think is, like, intentional, because I think he's nefarious.

[C]

Like I said, he's controlling the narrative. Like, he goes on a show, he

[B]

just says, we're going to talk about this.

[C]

And he just keeps, Keeps, keep talking about it.

[A]

Boom, boom, boom, boom. I gotta go back and listen to that episode.

[C]

It's smart. No, that's what he did. That's what he's done with, with Merkel. Every time he goes on, he's like, this is what we're gonna talk about. And he's just like a train ride going, going. So there's never any questioning about what did you just say? What's your.

[A]

Yeah, by this.

[C]

It's a. Yeah, yeah. When I listened to it, I was just kind of like, oh, that's an interesting topic. But I don't know much else about this guy's ideology or his theology or whatever, where he's really coming from.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So it's crazy when you start to, like, piece it together. You get a lawsuit.

[B]

Fake. Please have me on. That's interesting. So where are we going? Okay, that's a fun one. And then, you know, he talks about. I'll shorten it. But he talks about these soul fragments, and whenever you get them or you channel them if they're not, not cartel hijacked or. Either way, you have to, you know, ask them to reintegrate with you. It's a consent thing. And you ask them to. And that way your soul can be, you know, cleaned up and full, and otherwise you're going to have a broken soul.

[A]

That's a fantastic thing because throughout the schizophrenic phenomenon, the worst thing for the patient is to identify with the voices and believe that they're part of themselves. And once you believe that it's part of yourself, this thing gets a deeper grip on you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then can influence you more. So if you're going around to these soul fragments and. And identifying it with a part of yourself and then asking it to integrate with you and it's not you, you're gonna have a real problem.

[B]

Yeah, you're just merging deeper every time to different degrees, I'm sure. But it's definitely a way for them to get their claws and to influence you more, if not fully possess you eventually. But usually partial possession, like full possession, takes years. Unless you are like, are actively giving it up, up, as some people do, which they are kind of giving up a lot of their power when they do this. So then we got. Okay, this is one of. Talking about the integration thing. This is when Dan Duvall did his own integration.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

He talks about this on the podcast. And I have.

[A]

Did he go to the rings of Saturn and. And ask the soul fragments.

[B]

I'm gonna do this by memory. Let's see if I get this right. He talks about one day early in his career of doing this, he feels entity presence very, very strongly. Intuitively. He doesn't see anything, but he feels it so strongly. He feels that it's 12ft tall and his head is going through the roof of his home. He says that, and he says that he thought he was going to hear it speak coming down at him from above, but he hears it speak coming from his heart from below because it's merged with you, stupid. And that's an impression it's putting on you. So he feels this and then he. The entity set, like, says things validating, like knowing that. That he channeled Jesus recently. He's like, he was saying all the things I channeled with Jesus recently. He maybe not use the word channeled, but he. He would have these prayer journals where he prays to Jesus and then gets information back. Is it automatic writing or is it just intuitive knowing from merging with demons? It doesn't totally matter, but it's one of the two.

[A]

But if this thing knows, is it just because it's part of this demonic hive mind? Yeah.

[B]

He's like, how could you know if you're, you know, the.

[A]

Like any Christian has a. A decent grasp on the notion of familiar spirit.

[C]

It's something interesting. The. The new season of the telepathy tapes, I think episode.

[A]

There's a new.

[C]

Okay, Season two. They focus a little bit on. What did you call that? Autodidactic writing or channeled writing?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

They're actually doing that. Not. Not just spelling where, like, the parent is touching, but, like, it's very strange.

[B]

So it's. It's border. It's borderline Ouija boards.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's. And I. And I don't feel great about this.

[A]

The idea where you're just kind of like moving the pen around until something starts coming.

[B]

They're like pressing a letter, usually in spelling out by picking letters.

[C]

That's spelling. What I'm talking about is the. The channeled writing. It's just like they're channeling, but instead of prophesying or communicating verbally.

[A]

They're doing it through the writing.

[C]

Yeah, the lady.

[B]

Well, that's automatic writing if it's not them.

[C]

Automatic writing is if it's a spirit

[B]

that's taken over, which they'll. That's so crazy.

[A]

So they're introducing, they're reintroducing automatic writing, but instead of some sort of channeling thing, it's because look at the miracle of these non verbal kids. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

It's all being. It's. It's just like lightweight hate Gnosticism or New Age that's being fascinating with autistic children.

[B]

That's right. It's not. It's pretty dark. So this 12 foot entity he hears coming from his heart and it's telling him things that. How could he know? Because he's telling him things that Jesus was telling. And. And it's basically a repackaged higher self kind of thing.

[A]

But this is Dan, dude. All right, once again, I'm sorry, this is Dan Duvall.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Okay, go on.

[B]

He said that after he invited the spirit to indwell in him to come to be a part of him, which. Which is. If it's your spirit or your soul, it's already. You're already there.

[A]

Where did you hear this?

[C]

Yeah, where did.

[B]

He said it in a. I. He said it in his podcast on the Deep end. If I can say that over Taylor Welsh.

[A]

Yeah, okay.

[B]

Yeah, you can see you blast me. Last time. I didn't know if I should say it.

[C]

No, no.

[A]

Yeah, well, don't say it again.

[B]

It was on his second appearance. Maybe, maybe his first, but it was on one of his first or second and he. Now I don't have the verbatim quote here, but I definitely have the verbatim information as I've documented everything immediately after watching. I do have some quotes actually. He said this entity is my own spirit. That's. That's a quote I put in here. And he says that he never had us. He hasn't had a spiritual drought once since this encounter. And this led him to ask us more and more information. So sounds like emerge of the demon who now has more rights to influence you and deceive you. That's what I would say. And that happened many years ago, I think over a decade.

[C]

This is.

[A]

I mean, what a. What a foolish thing though, like. So there's 12 foot tall spiritual entity that talked to me from my heart, knew the things that I said when I. Or that were said to me by Jesus when I channeled them through this patient or whatever. This other individual, he.

[B]

Information he got in his own prayers, where it could have been automatic writing he was doing, because it sounds like it, or it could have been just intuitive knowing coming from that it's not

[A]

coming from God's alarming. I mean that's, that's genuinely for people that, that. I mean, if he really did say this and you said in the, in his.

[C]

That was interviewing, this is in his episode a year ago.

[B]

He has two episodes from around that time and it was the first or second one, I don't remember which. And he has two more in the last few months that came out pretty recent.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Yeah, I've watched, I've watched a lot of his. Now some of this information is coming from his other videos that aren't in interviews that are his like training submit seminars. Sorry. That's okay.

[A]

Oh, that's him.

[B]

So yeah. What was I saying? So you know what's even more problematic is he's training his students to do exactly this. He is. And now keep in mind, he said the other week, he has over a few hundred current students right now learning this exact methodology. He's about to be teaching over a thousand. That's what he said.

[A]

Specifically the methodology of reintegration. This whole thing, this whole thing to

[B]

be healing others through this practice, which includes.

[A]

Damn, dude.

[B]

And he's. Now he says, what does he say? I gotta make sure I'm getting this right.

[A]

It's funny that it's 12ft tall.

[B]

I know.

[A]

He's like, he's a dead Nephilim.

[B]

Oh my gosh.

[A]

He's just reintegrating with this dead Nephilim. What the hell?

[B]

Yeah. And he said, he tells people to make sure they're integrating with their soul or with their spirit, not their spirit guides their spirit. And he claims that if you do. He says, and I quote, he's.

[A]

Well, why you look for that? I just want to say, where in the Bible does it tell you to seek out fragmentations of your own soul?

[B]

That's a great question.

[A]

And then consent for them to reintegrate with you. I mean, that's nuts, man.

[B]

He says this is a quote. He says if you do this, they will. He says your prayer journal will begin to look like the book of Revelation. What does that mean?

[A]

The does that mean, dude?

[B]

So he provides no warning about this distinguishing from potential spirit guide demonic deceivers. He has no warning. Like, hey, by the way, make sure you do the right spirit, because otherwise it's gonna be right.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. We Know within the spiritual realm there's all kinds of deceptive spirits.

[B]

Doesn't bring it up.

[A]

How do you arm people against the deceptive spirits that try to present as positive ones like all this, you take

[B]

away their guns, you set fire, like Dan is doing.

[A]

Geez, man.

[B]

So he's training hundreds of people to do this right now. And they are going to be having their own patients pretty soon and then

[A]

each one is going to train 100 people. This is, this is why we need

[B]

to get this viral guys, right now.

[A]

This is crazy. It's a pyramid scheme of demonic possession.

[B]

Yes. And it's pretty smart.

[A]

It is. I mean it's clever.

[B]

I want to remind you guys again, but before I forget, by the end of this, please, if you guys like what you're hearing and you want to be helping out and stop people from getting possessed, guest, please spam post this video on Dan Duvall. YouTube videos, any kind, any interviews and email whoever you need to get them seen because this is very dangerous and we gotta stop it. And I need to get sued.

[A]

That's insane though. I mean, no, I mean if he's, if he's saying these things, you know, that's a, that's a huge problem, man.

[B]

I know this.

[A]

That's a huge problem.

[B]

The idea started writing this book is. And that was the first thing I said. I need to write this because of this guy.

[A]

Not. You're gonna go around, find fragment. I. Dude, I want to know what the biblical basis for that is. If there is fragmentation of your soul.

[B]

He provides biblical stuff for other things, but not for that one. Because there's no way you can even fake that. I feel like.

[A]

And then to go around and ask them to integrate with you.

[B]

Yeah, you have to ask them.

[A]

I mean like everything that we've learned about consent and permissions and I mean you're, you're literally doing, you're jumping over all the steps that you could unknowingly consent to demonic possession or oppression. And you're going straight up to it and asking it to integrate with you.

[C]

What exactly does he say about this 12 foot giant?

[B]

I don't have the verbatim quotes. I don't want to say for sure, but I have the overall story and it's that it showed up one day. He feels its presence. He knows it's big just by his intuition, which they're providing. And then he thought, he thinks it's going to speak from above because he's, he's feeling. It's right there invisible. But it comes from his heart.

[C]

Heart.

[B]

Because it's an entity inside of him or merge with him. And then it says. He doesn't tell me the words.

[A]

He just says.

[B]

It says things that I was getting information from from Jesus and writing in my journals. And of course they would know about that if they just have, you know, metaphysical eyeballs and are around him.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Let alone merged with him and can read his mind. So it validated that saying that you're doing all the right stuff. Keep going. And I don't know if it asked to merge with him or if he just invited it because he intuitively thought that was the move. Which intuition would be driven by them at that point.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

But either way, I don't remember for sure. I don't want to say. But either way, it happened. Happened. And he teaches people to do this.

[A]

I've never listened to any of this guy's stuff. If this is what he's going around and saying, like, this is crazy, man.

[B]

It gets crazier. We're moving. So this is where I told you how he doesn't channel directly but does the Ouija board thing. But this is where I think that that might be not always the case because of his quote. This is a direct quote from him in an interview. He says, we encourage the spirit to come forward and the spirit to be present. And then I start asking the spirit questions. Sometimes the spirit comes to the session and actually has memory memories. Sometimes Jesus is pulling the veil back of amnesia on the spirit and the memory is coming in as real time as we're working through something. And the spirit will either begin to show the soul a movie of what took place, pause, or tell me outright with the person's mouth.

[A]

So he's. He's going into sessions and he's asking spirits to come forward. Yeah, I mean, that sounds like a seance.

[B]

Not done. Sorry, One. One sec. One of those ways is the spirit communicating to me its history and what happened. Sometimes with deep shame. But he said before that this he. He says, and then the spirit will begin to show me the soul. Show the soul the movie of what took place. Vision and tell. Or tell me outright with the person's mouth. That could be just a slip up. Or is that a Freudian slip of him saying, yeah, sometimes there's voice channeling because he just said, they tell me with the person's mouth. I may be looking into it.

[A]

They tell me with the person, but it's important.

[B]

But he said that in like off the cuff, not thinking about it in an interview. And I think he Freudian slipped and might be admitting to actual channeling. I don't want to say for sure, but it definitely is words he said and it sounds like he might be lying. And that's why he doesn't talk about his process of channeling too much. And he talks about it as, oh, no, they're telepathically communicating and then relaying it back. I think that happens, but I think both might happen.

[A]

I struggled to see how else you would interpret. I mean, yeah, yeah, it doesn't matter

[B]

if he's channeling that way or not. It's still. It's just a no.

[A]

No. But I'm saying, like, if you were to be very gracious here and say that he didn't accidentally say that and that we're just misinterpreting it. So how else would you interpret a spirit speaking through the individual's mouth?

[B]

That's a good question. I don't know.

[A]

I wouldn't know how else to categorize that except for channeling.

[B]

Well, you know, he said it. Maybe he just slipped up. But it's a weird slip up. We got more. So he has. So now we're getting into the, the more spicy stuff, the pre ademic memories. No, I lied. I'm skipping one. I'm going right back to a more retarded one. Hold on.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Okay, so. So this is. I'm just going to explain. I'm not reading it, but he talks about one testimony where he was doing a healing. And in this, the person's having a vision and they're relaying the vision of what they're seeing.

[A]

Do you happen to know where he's talking about this testimony? Just.

[B]

Oh, like what it was on?

[A]

Yeah. Where did you find this? Just for posterity.

[B]

I'm, I'm 99 sure. It was from one of those first two deep end podcasts. Okay.

[A]

So the same.

[B]

It was one of the first two.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And I'm 99. I'm like 100, sure.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

So I don't always put that down, but I, I know my sources in here. So he says that as he's. As the session's happening, the person in their mind's eye, in their inner world is seeing this massive fire demon quote in their. That's the end of the quote. In their inner world. And Jesus and Jesus and Dan and the angels are working on the deliverance from the outside as praying. So Dan's praying.

[C]

I actually, I think I have this

[B]

here if you find it pulled up. But yeah, let's pull it up.

[A]

Here we go.

[B]

I want to see if it's the right moment, because it should be one. One second.

[A]

There we go. It is comfy, bro. He's laid back. He's comfy as hell. Yeah. He's like. So there I was with Jesus and

[E]

the angels, abilities that my soul lacks. I'll give you one example. I. I was in a session with a person, right? And I think. And they saw all of this in the spirit. There was a series of opposition that was coming against him. At one point, they see this massive fire demon and Jesus, as the angels are working with us, as we're working through their inner world and outer world and all the things that are coming against them to clear and to deprogram and to heal and deliver. Well, there was a certain point where this massive fire demon they saw coming in, and I prayed about it, but they, in the spirit world are seeing, not an angel, my human spirit. So now my human spirit actually came into their view fully armored. He's running across, tackles the fire demon and just starts punching it in the face. And I'm sitting as a soul. I'm like, yeah, that's right. I'm doing that. But I'm not doing that. My spirit is doing that. Huh. Okay, whatever. We move on with Jesus and the angels. Fifteen minutes later, they said, daniel, you won't believe this. I said what? They said, I still see your spirit punching this guy in the face. He's not even conscious. I'm like, yeah, that's right.

[A]

That's right, Exactly. Look at this.

[E]

Because now. Now the. My human spirit is a warrior. And there's a lot of warriors that are listening to me say this right now. They're all getting excited. Excited because they're like, yeah, get them, you know, And I want to do that. And like, you will, you know, but. But that's. So that reality is independent of my soul's experience. So then I began to explain. Oh, okay. What everybody needs to understand is that when you begin to understand human alignment, you have a house that's pretty. You have the head of Brown.

[B]

I'm telling you the truth here.

[A]

Okay? I just got to say, for anybody who's. Who's worried about the disparagement of Dan Duvall, I think he does a fair job. Job of doing it to himself.

[B]

I mean, that's gotta pay attention.

[A]

That is. You gotta pay attention. That was like he just said his. His warrior spirit body was beating the. Out of a fire demon.

[B]

Sounds badass and cool, man.

[A]

Sounds so Cool. Sounds like this guy just got done playing Skyrim and was like, you know what? Like a good story.

[C]

His pre ademic warrior spirit.

[B]

Not that right now, but that's just his spirit, which is the same one he probably merged with. And it was wearing, you know, metaphysical armor and tackling and punching. All armored up.

[A]

Yeah. My metaphysical spiritual warrior is made of hot dogs.

[B]

See how pleased with himself was in that video, bro?

[A]

Dude, he was pleased with himself. Did you see how uncomfortable the laugh was by the other guys? They were like.

[B]

But he feeds into everything he's saying. He loves it. He thinks he's a prophet.

[A]

I'm telling you, that's crazy.

[B]

And I like, I think. I don't think Taylor Welch is a nefarious guy, but he's definitely his discernment's way. The way the hell.

[A]

Well, it's hard. I mean, what are you supposed to say?

[B]

Like, he's done four interviews with this guy.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah, there's a lot of. I'm working. I'm getting to it, actually. Let's get crazy.

[C]

This kind of brings in the views. So, like, that's why. That's why he's doing it.

[A]

It's fun.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, I'm having a good time.

[C]

It's like. Like Nathaniel Reynolds, in a way.

[A]

Dude, that's what I was gonna say. I was gonna say Nathan Reynolds. People get upset whenever I say strangling with my hands. Yeah, I mean, that's his full name.

[B]

Yeah. Okay, that's fine.

[C]

Listen, I don't know much about the guy, but, yeah, he brings in views. I understand why people talk to him, but I just. My spirit rings.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

When I. When I do hear recoils.

[A]

When I hear that, I go, oh, you, dude. What? Your spirit man beat up the big. Oh, God.

[B]

No, that's fine.

[C]

That's fine. Let's see. Let's hear more.

[B]

I'm actually gonna probably bring up maybe the most story of his, or at least one of my favorites. And it is. I call the Super Soaker Jesus and childlike altars.

[A]

I'm sorry.

[B]

Just shut up. So. So basically. So basically Dan says. And I'm paraphrasing a little bit, but he says, you will find the soul fragments of yourself in this. In this inner world, in the visions. And you'll see these little childlike altars, and they're like you as a child. And it's really creepy.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And to, you know, alongside integrating. I don't know if it's the same thing, but it's. They sometimes he Will ask Jesus to show up and give the soul fragment altars metaphysical, of course, water guns filled with living water, a biblical term. Give them water guns. And whenever the demons show up in the inner world, the little childlike altars will spray the demonics characters with the living water water gun and they will get them to fly off. That's a real thing, he says, you

[A]

know, so as you're saying that I'm thinking about some of the more fantastic stories that I've heard.

[C]

And this is Haitian like now that I'm thinking about it, this is very third world being presented to us.

[B]

He promotes the mermaid world stuff through these false memory implantations too. I don't talk about in my book, but it's a big deal. This woman had like a five hour interview about being a mermaid and talked about the whole hierarchy in so many details. Details. It's like ssp. But water.

[C]

He was on. He was on blurry creatures talking about mermaids, wasn't he?

[A]

No, no, no. That was the guy who actually like saw that mermaid thing on that ship, I think.

[C]

No.

[A]

Oh, this dude did this too.

[B]

It's water ssp, I'm telling you.

[C]

Yeah, I think, I think it was Dan Duvall as well.

[B]

They talk about mermaid, so he just.

[A]

He just sees it all. Look, look, I. I don't know. I just want to, before we go

[C]

any further, say I made hierarchies.

[B]

They talk about it like you, when you upgrade, your mermaid tail turns into an octopus tail jail. Okay, I'm not joking.

[C]

I simply can't.

[A]

What are you talking about?

[B]

It's a. There's a, like an SRA survivor who's a very nice woman, but she's got these false memory implantations of her being a mermaid in a. In a. Basically ssp. But instead of space, you're taken to water world and you're in an alternate dimension and it's like octopus tail. All right, Level up. She was doing missions. Blurry, just like the ssp. People do missions to find stuff. She was doing mermaid missions. And she has memories of this. And she's real. She's not making it up. She. She has the memories, but they're not real. They're implanted. And a few people have these and they're five hours of a very serious dark interview. It is not. She's not acting like I believed her intentions for sure, but you gotta. It's on Dandy Ball's page. He interviews her for like five episodes. And I watch the whole thing. All right, Stupid.

[A]

I. I just don't want people to think that, like it's the nature of a fantastic story that puts me off. Like I, I get it. Like fantastic things happen and people see things and all kinds of stuff, but it's just like the, the, the braggadocious douchebag vibe of my spirit, man. Beat the out of a fire demon for a long time. And then when everybody left and came back later, he was still beating the. Out of the unconscious like fire. Like how, how cool. How epic is that, bro?

[B]

Like it's very, it's very dude, bro. Epic. All right, listen, I get it, man.

[A]

But I do believe crazy things happen to people. I, I don't want people.

[C]

Yeah, I worked with a lot of Haitian people. People. This is no different. He just has the correct skin color for people to believe it. That's like my racism.

[A]

He's light skinned. It's my racism.

[C]

Don't burp when I'm talking. I'll kill you. That's my racism flaring up. Sorry, but it's true. Yeah, that's what's happening here. All right, all right, let's continue.

[A]

Wait, I'm not. He's light skinned. That's the thing.

[B]

All right, all right, so now we're at pre ademic memories and. Okay, so he can access via these, you know, trance states. People can activate and find their pre ademic memories or Jesus will show them the movie of it. Of course, like he said.

[A]

Said pre ademic memories meaning pre Adam existing Right.

[B]

In the spirit.

[A]

Or is that an ancestor?

[B]

Not an ancestor. It's them. It's their spirit before they were incarnated. Okay, Human. Gotcha. It's not, it's not like a human on earth in a pre, like pre Atlantis type civilization.

[A]

That's kind of like Mormonism, like a lot of more. And I'm not saying that this is a slight. It's just like they think that, that they agreed to come here to some extent. You know, which maybe we did exist in some way, shape or form before we came here in the physical. Maybe. I don't know.

[B]

But God, I'm not against the idea. I don't. I lean away from it heavily though.

[A]

I knew you when I before. Wait, what was it?

[B]

Before you were formed in the flesh, I knew you and. But that, that could mean also. He's not subject to time. He knows what you're gonna do.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The book of life is written. That's what I think it could be. Easily. Sure. Sure. As a. In a logical.

[A]

But I could see how you could take that and then inform this other worldview of.

[B]

I think scripture is very poetic and easy to twist because of its allegorical nature at times. And you know, that's.

[A]

That's the.

[B]

I think it was semi intentional in the writing. Oh.

[A]

Episode 209, the Marine Kingdom with Dan Duvall.

[B]

There's five episodes and they're crazy as hell.

[A]

Really.

[C]

They're talking about the blurry.

[A]

Yeah, blurry creatures. Episode 209, the Marine Kingdom.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

The last time you got a man, you got to be a member to see any of their shows. I think last time I checked. All right, so pre ademic.

[B]

Yeah. Predominant memories. And now they can actually just have

[C]

to have the correct. The correct line of thinking.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Or.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Or the correct hat. Yeah.

[B]

Now some of these memories allegedly involve, quote, powers of darkness, using them in the spiritual form to conceive children. Talking about pre ademic nephilim, spiritual ones, which is, you know, okay, he's pro nephilim I. Or not pro, but you know. Yeah, yeah, essentially is. But, you know, supporting that story. But he's talking about pre ademic nephilim in the spirit and these past life memories. So many people apparently get these memories of them being their soul was captured by other souls demonic side and used to, you know, basically do a hot. A breeding farm for pre ademic nephilim. Which, you know, interesting. What do I know? What do I know about the mysteries of the universe? I'm sure. Boy. But like I'm. It makes sense that it's a retarded and made up up. So now, now keep in mind you have all these new age therapists who have been for a millennia accessing past life memories in these hypno regression states. Not one of them I've seen anywhere ever has ever talked about a pre ademic soul memory ever. And Dan Duvall never accesses past life memories. It's only predomic soul memories. So why is there never any overlap? Is it because the prompting is just so incorrect that they don't. They don't cross over.

[A]

Over.

[B]

That seems a little bit too easily. Too. Too good to be true. Now an important note here.

[A]

It's funny how what a slight twist that is though. Like this guy's not going to buy into like reincarnation. So like pre ademic. Let's just do pre ademic civilizations.

[B]

No, exactly, and I'm gonna get back to that in a minute of his explanation for past life memories because I've never heard him address it. Until recently.

[A]

It is also really funny to stand there and be like, reincarnation is. But pre ademic civilizations. Now there's something. You know what the. Also Albarino is. Is big into pre ademic civilizations, is he not? I'm pretty sure that he is.

[B]

Yeah. Both very influential figures right now for Christians.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. He believes in pre ademic civilizations. He believes in.

[B]

He believes heaven is in the center of the universe physically, and we can access it by a spaceship.

[A]

Yeah. And that previously existed on Mars. There was a great angelic war or something like that that took place on Mars and, or, or some sort of a gigantic water.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. All right. Well, you know, I don't subscribe to it. I'm a young Earther, baby.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, gee. So, yeah, the predominant thing is problematic. And he doesn't. He has a book that just came out about it and I have not read it. It came out, you know, obviously before I wrote my book or. No, after. I wrote my book very recently and I left a very nasty review on it.

[A]

One star.

[B]

So please like that review on Amazon, by the way, because nobody is. And it's very eloquent and. Yeah, and. And what was I saying? So he accesses those and doesn't access past life memories. And I'll just tell you the explanation he has for past life memories because he. I just heard him talk about this in the last episode from two weeks ago in front of an audience on deep end. He literally says that when he's asked about, well, how do people access past life memories? And. Good question. And he's like, oh, I believe they're real memories, but they're not of your past life. They're ancestrally locked in your DNA from your ancestors, which I'm gonna ex. I'm gonna explain here that if you've done any research into reincarnation, like I have, the biggest database you can find is Ian Stevenson's work. Now, he's not regression based. He's going to the children who are having them at two to four years old. Sure. And they go and interact with the past life family if they live close enough, which in most cases in his numbers, when you take the math of it, reincarnation, there is a maximum, usually three years between incarnations, one to three years, usually sometimes five or 20, but

[A]

meaning from the point of the death to the point of the birth.

[B]

But most of them are within three years max. Most. Right. So I pull this up real quick.

[A]

What do you got here?

[E]

This is the segment I don't Believe that that is actually what's happening. But I do believe that people do go to these hypnosis things, especially New Age practices, and just trying.

[C]

I'm really trying to understand what this guy's saying.

[B]

Yeah, thank you for.

[A]

Yeah, well, so far, it's like every time you've shown us this is, like, pretty shocking.

[B]

But, yeah, let's let this rip.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

They discover past life memories, or what they're told are past life memories, or what they believe to be past life memories. And then it's like this juxtaposition. It's like, well, I want to be Christian, but before I became Christian, I had this. So now what do I do with this? I have a few answers to that question.

[C]

Makes them.

[B]

If you're comfortable with it, I don't want to send you home with. And the question is, what is. What is the past life experience?

[E]

People are like, why does it happen?

[B]

Oh, why does it happen? Okay, got it.

[E]

Number one, the first one is, I believe that memories are passed down through the DNA. And so I think this was actually told to us in a series, a video game series. And then it followed on a movie. It was called Assassin's Creed.

[A]

Oh, you come on.

[E]

The whole theme of that is you play a character that's actually in a lab, but they get hooked up to a machine, and then the character is experiencing the life of their ancient ancestor as they're looking for certain artifacts or important documents in history where stuff was. So you have to, as the character in the game, somehow find a way to stay synchronized to the memory of the ancestor. And if you desynchronize, then it's game over. But it's like you're basically. The whole game is a process of recovering memories that actually are in the DNA of the main character that's actually in a lab.

[A]

This guy looks just like me. If I was a little bit dumber or actually a little bit. I don't think and believed it.

[C]

You're a little smarter. You'd be on the deep, deep end.

[A]

Well, yeah, if I was a little bit smarter and believed in my own, then. Then this guy would be me, man. That's okay. All right.

[B]

Now, to say that is absolutely dumb and stupid because you're not accounting for any of the actual research and reincarnation, which adds a whole. And I explain away reincarnation my own way. In part three, we're having. Coming up in the future, maybe.

[A]

Yeah, you were saying that there's a. There's a. Usually a delay about three years, one

[B]

to Three years now. And also they're usually not always, but within a hundred miles or so of the last person because they're. They want it to be close by so you can come visit and then you can verify it with more evidence.

[A]

An individual story that I know of is a little boy who I believe he was in Scotland somewhere, long story short, says he remembers dying, drowning, and says he had a dog, says he had a sister, says he had a mom and a dad. This is what his house looked like. They found it. They verified it not long ago, probably within the similar time frame. They did lose a son. He did drown because their. Their home was coastal crystal and it was right next to the ocean. And still the family was there. The sister, the mom and the dad. And. And that's a very compelling story, man.

[B]

Oh, it's very compelling. And. And like I said, I have a whole bunch of notes here and I'm ready to.

[A]

I.

[B]

In my Chapter 5 breakdown in my book. What Incarnation. That's what I call the fifth chapter.

[A]

Pretty good chapter.

[B]

Thank you. Because it's a double entendre.

[A]

No, I got it.

[B]

You know, it's two things.

[A]

Yosotomy Sam. Who. Who got called Yosotomy Sam?

[B]

Oh, that's great.

[A]

Oh, oh, Scotty, the dude with the mustache that a faceless attacked for a while.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

I forgot what his issue was, but somebody called that Yosami Sam. Oh my God.

[B]

Crazy.

[A]

Okay, so go. What? Yeah, What?

[B]

What? In that chapter, I've spent like 80 pages breaking down the reincarnation lore and evidence from regression and children's past life memories and the birthmark. I addressed the birthmark thing here. I'm not doing it today, but. Or buy the book. But I address how all of that's explainable under the shenanigans model of the freaking vision control and impression and how permission based, you know, opening yourself up to these things is explaining it. And the birthmark thing is. It's literally.

[A]

Oh, by the way, it wasn't Yosotomy Sam. It was Foghorn Leghorn that said, what in tarnation?

[B]

That's fun.

[A]

That big ass chicken.

[B]

I'm a big chicken. Thank you.

[A]

That's the guy that said.

[B]

But anyway, back to the Duvall thing. He says it's from your ancestral DNA, but there's absolutely no.

[A]

You could just leave it. You can just do. You can just leave it. It.

[B]

So he says that there is this. It's from ancestral DNA, which means. That means your past life memories have to be coming from your ancestors. And it can't be outside the family. Now, all of these reincarnation memories, the. Some of them are in the family, but the vast majority are people living 100 miles away, sometimes across continents often, but usually within 100 miles in a totally different family. And they're people. There's no right.

[A]

They're not related. Yeah. They're strangers.

[B]

Dangers. No, exactly. Yeah. Also, all the memories would have to be ancient memories are all their past life, which is right there.

[A]

Do we have a gunshot noise? Because that right there puts a, a dramatic hole in what Dan Duvall just

[B]

said, and they don't address any of

[A]

that because past life regression has to do with your incest ancestral bloodline. But over and over again, we have these instances, whatever they are.

[B]

Data doesn't support what he said even close.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Not even regression. Or, or in. Or in the.

[A]

You know what supports that? A video game. A video game supports that.

[B]

And undeserved confidence.

[A]

That's crazy the way you run into

[C]

the same issue with the guy Albarino we were talking about. First he opens up talking about Marvel, and I go, oh, I think I said at one point that I think that Stranger Things nails this concept. And he goes, we're talking about, like, media.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then later on, he's like Lord of the Rings and Star wars or some like that. I'm like, okay, I guess, whatever, Whatever your bias towards your favorite show is.

[C]

I, I, that'. That's. I don't want to on Dan for using this analogy. I think it's a bad analogy in general. But, like, okay, it's okay to use, you know, media in general because a lot of times this stuff does have these kind of weird roots.

[A]

But that is a really excellent way to put a hole in. That theory is just that when you look at these instances, it doesn't have to be the family. They're just separated by long distances and they're unrelated. So in that instance, when I research

[B]

for five minutes of reincarnation lore and find out he was absolutely off, you can't. It doesn't make any sense.

[A]

That's crazy. Yeah, right?

[B]

It's so simple. And I'm like, nobody's even checking. Attacking this man and saying anything in the comments. It's embarrassing. And I get freaking because it's your itching ears.

[A]

Right? It's a, it's a sexy idea.

[D]

What?

[A]

Assassin's Creed is real. What if I have, like, some sort of warrior in my history, dude, and I could be plugged in. I could beat the out of A fire demon.

[B]

Well, let's go find out. Yeah, exactly.

[A]

All right.

[C]

Are those two, those two ideas correlated? The idea of him slapping around his, his. What do you call it?

[A]

Oh, that must have been his, his assassin ancestor.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Is that like. Is he correlating those ideas?

[A]

No, I think we're just, we're just doing that too.

[C]

I think I asked you that already. With the pre ademic memories.

[B]

It's all over the place. It's hard to follow. I know.

[C]

I don't know what he's talking about. This.

[B]

I'm.

[C]

I'm being honest.

[B]

No, and I respect that because it took me a while to figure it out because I had to study this and I. If you don't have a SRT understanding like I do and I wrote about, you're. It's going to be hard to get the rest of this. Which is why I started with that stuff. Because you have to start with it. It's already hard enough. Enough just that. Yeah, but I had to start with that so that you can see the comparisons here, look.

[A]

And there's nothing necessarily wrong with saying like you want to. Here's a cool idea. Right? There's nothing wrong with saying that. But the problem comes in when you're now coaching people. This is your world.

[C]

My thing is that it's not. I'm not doubting the veracity of it. I understand that this is nonsense. What I'm doubting is like, I don't even understand the logic. As if I did believe. Believe it. You understand?

[A]

Yeah. Like I, if I wanted to believe this, how would I go about doing that?

[C]

Yeah, that's what I'm, I'm trying to

[A]

like, where's the structure here?

[B]

I'm trying to just trust the prophet like these people have.

[A]

Well, like I said, man, once you start, like, it's okay to have these. I have a lot of wild ideas. I'm not training people in a method about integrating soul fragments, soon to be

[B]

thousands of people, and then.

[A]

And then telling them to go forth and do the same thing to other people. Yeah, that's a crazy thing. In fact, I'm constantly warning people, hey, things that you interact with in the spiritual realm. I like La Marzulli's take where it's like rebuke first, ask questions later. You know what I mean?

[B]

Won't be offended by you doing so.

[A]

Right. The angel's not gonna be like, dude, what in the name of Jesus? Come on, bro, why you gotta do me like that? Like, come on. He does.

[B]

That's A red flag.

[A]

That's crazy.

[B]

So, yeah, there's plenty of this stuff, man. I'm only picking out individual pieces from the book that I have, but there's so many more. Duvall's personal visions are important because they initiated a lot. The pre ademic stuff.

[A]

I would like to hear.

[B]

Yeah, let's hear about his personal vision 93. It's not an exer which like, you

[A]

know, recently I told people I saw a little black alien in the woods. Like, you know, I'm not past people seeing crazy. Like that's not the problem here. I think a lot of the problem comes from, you know, this whirlwind tour where you're training thousands. Like that's nuts, man. And you're doing a thing that sounds a lot like inviting demons in.

[B]

It couldn't be much other things, to be honest. So in his personal visions he talks about. He said that this is what initiated his pre adept dynamic whole journey, what started it early in his career doing this. And he says that he's sucked through a portal in a dream or a vision, a dream vision. And it's very, you know, elaborate and vivid. And he's being sucked through and he's in space and he's floating in space and he sees this giant scroll open up. And this giant scroll starts zipping past him really fast to where he can't read everything, but he can read bits and pieces here and there. And they're basically discussing a pre Adamic war. Acts of heroism, acts of betrayal, trial, different factions, all this history, historical predomic stuff in the spirit with these spirit beings, angels, demons, whatever, fallen angels, whatever you want to call them. And he's talking about just hearing bits and pieces of it, not fully getting the big picture, just enough to like dip your toe, but not enough to be. If they give him a whole story, then it might fall under its own legs, you know, so they're giving him just bits. And then he is transported to speak with the Holy Spirit, which he said was one of the most pleasurable experience of his life. He said, oh, it just feels so good. You know, he's saying stuff like that.

[A]

Wait, something compels him to communicate with the Holy Spirit?

[B]

No. Then communicates with him right after that scroll.

[A]

Oh, so it shows him the scroll,

[B]

it's telling him these things.

[A]

Okay, and just.

[B]

And I get he doesn't say verbatim, but it seems like it's guiding him to start this mission of exposing pre ademic memories because that'll be make us better Christians.

[A]

It's interesting.

[C]

When he talks about the Holy Spirit, does he, like I. That when he talks about it feeling good, does he have any connotations with it being a feminine.

[B]

It's like a Jake Barber thing, you know, I don't want to say for sure. It's possible, but I don't. Off the top of my nog. Remember that. I don't want to say anything that's illegally wrong.

[A]

So it's just like.

[B]

I mean, believe it or not, I

[A]

know, like God shows up as like a. A whirlwind of. At one point and then speaks to. Who is that?

[C]

Anytime. Anytime somebody correlates the Holy Spirit with the feminine.

[A]

No. Yeah. That's a big alarm.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

It's usually a deception, so.

[A]

Made me feel good.

[B]

I'm gonna say always.

[A]

I'm just wondering because it seems like God every single time in a. In a. In a small, still voice. Voice. But the opposite seems to be happening here. He's whisked through a portal, transported to space in his mind, eye, whatever.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Shown an unraveling scroll with, you know, groundbreaking information. And then the Holy Spirit comes in and be like, let me debrief you basically on what you just saw.

[B]

Essentially, he. He glosses over the story kind of quickly. But I recorded it as I remember, as I saw it.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

At the time. Time. And I'm paraphrasing it now. So it's. It's. It's nine out of ten. Pretty close to what he said.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But I don't want to say for sure. It broke down every little layer, but it.

[C]

The.

[B]

The Holy Spirit apparently guided him on this journey. And then he had his own predemic memories, which we're about to get into. Cool. And then he starts exposing other people's. Once you get one, then it unlocks

[A]

a whole bunch of them, and now you can do the work.

[B]

Yes, exactly. So I will talk about his predemic memory. And actually, this is a perfect opportunity that I'm prepared for. For. I wanted to play the audiobook quote of his because I want people to know how silly the voice I. I chose for Dan Duvall is.

[A]

Okay. And this is a dur. This is a direct quote from him talking about.

[B]

And it's a. It's a. AI Dan Duvall reading it. And it sounds just like him, I think.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But I have it connected to Bluetooth, I think. Right.

[C]

Should be.

[B]

All right, so this is the. Yeah. I'm just gonna let it roll. And. And it has stutters and stuff in it. And this is a verbatim quote and

[A]

this is one more time just the context of what he's about to say.

[B]

Pre pandemic general memories. General in the pre ademic. Oh, in the pre war, he was a general.

[A]

Okay. He's a general.

[B]

You'll find out.

[A]

He has, he's beating the out of

[B]

fire D. So and he said this on first or second Deep End podcast. He did. And this is. Yeah, this is fun.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Can you hear it? Egomaniacs. Here is a verbatim quote from Dan on the Deep End podcast. That's the main voice.

[D]

My job in the the pre Adamic age was a general. I, I, I actually ran a military campaign. And early on in that military campaign and this came by way of memories, like, I actually started to remember some stuff.

[B]

It pauses for no reason. I don't know why.

[D]

We had a lot of challenges. Like, there was a lot of betrayal and a lot of shiftiness. People that were part of those military campaigns, the spirits, they were not so loyal. They, they, they were defecting. They all kinds of stuff. So it was like chaos. And it was a process and a difficult process of tightening the ship so that we could shut down that activity and really hit a slipstream of success as we were doing, really fighting for the Lord and end and in these pre Adamic wars. Well, lo and behold, I come into this world world and it's like time to start a ministry. So what did I experience in the early days of the ministry? Like, every time we got even, just going for like a few months with an employee, there was an implosion. I, I couldn't get a team of core support people around me at all. Four years today.

[B]

Junior, that's the voice.

[A]

This, this, I mean, he's, he's bought into this hook line and sinking. He's telling you about, like the, the difficulties and how hard it was to like, get good help. And every time we got a little traction, something got derailed. But we were like, in the fight for the Lord, dude.

[B]

Like, he gives very few details on his actual memories. Just saying generally he was a general and it was a lot of, a lot of problems and blah, blah, blah. And he stutters. He starts stuttering like he never has before. And that's why I include them because they're funny, but also because it shows he's not really confidently portraying this, which means he's either partially lying, but I don't think he's lying. I think he just doesn't want to share the details because it gets a Little tricky to explain to people. People.

[C]

That's what I was going to ask you. Do you think he's lying or.

[B]

I think. No, I think he's getting these memories. I think he understands the perception maybe, and he doesn't want it to come off like it's coming off to me and to you guys right now. So he's being careful with the details he's exposing, keeping it very general.

[C]

And that's exactly what I'm sensing from him every time I heard him on Merkel, at least, where it's kind of

[B]

like he skirts around very specific topics that are implicatory in these things.

[A]

The problem isn't necessarily, like, whether or not you've had these experiences. The problem is when you're, you're. You're shown evidence, which I'm sure he has, right. There's got to be all kinds of people that are pointing out similar things and inconsistencies. Like, you know, I remember recently, I remember what. Whatever dream I had. But I've been saying, you know, just because I have a. Just because I have a dream doesn't mean. Doesn't mean I'll share it as an interesting thing. Like, if he's sharing this as an interesting thing, you go, wow, that's fascinating. Anything. But he goes like, I don't know what that means. I don't know if that's real. I don't know if I'm being shown something that's real. I'm not saying that, but this guy sounds like he's bought into this, released

[B]

a whole book on this a few weeks ago, the entire subject of predemic memories and what it means in the bigger picture. I didn't read it, but I know what it's about, obviously, and it gets into the details more. So we'll probably find more details of his story and other people's testimonies with the details that sound really out there.

[A]

He's probably being emboldened as he's making these rounds, as these shows are having him on, as he's getting big right now.

[B]

That's the thing. He's getting really big.

[A]

So he's gonna get louder. He's gonna, he's gonna release more, he's gonna say more.

[B]

And that's why I want this to go somewhat level of viral, so he can get on publicly in the public square and, you know, we can take him down before he gets everybody possessed by demons.

[C]

That doesn't work like that.

[B]

I know it doesn't work like that, but let me have it'd.

[A]

Be nice. A man can dream. That's. But it doesn't mean anything. Just because you have a dream doesn't mean anything. I just want to. I just want to say that, you know, because a lot of weird is shown to you in dreams, man. Men. That is. That's a guy that, you know, as far as I can hear, sounds like he believes definitively he was a general in a pre ademic, you know, war. And that it was real hard going, wasn't easy.

[B]

It's a badass story for a short guy like him.

[A]

He's another one too, where he goes. I see, that's the thing. I. I have that. I have that short guy thing that wants me to believe a bunch of dumb. And I gotta go like, ah, take it easy, dude. You're just five, seven. It's not. It's not that bad. It's not that true. No. Well, you think he's shorter than that? That.

[B]

Oh, him.

[A]

Yeah. Dan Duvall.

[B]

That's a problem. Guessing five, two. Maybe not.

[A]

Dude, if I was an inch shorter.

[C]

Territory.

[A]

Yeah. If I was an inch shorter, I'd

[B]

be a terrible person if I had to guess.

[A]

I think, yeah, that's a real problem, man. That's a real problem. And then once again, just to go a step further and be like, and I'm gonna teach you how to do this and you're gonna teach other people like, whoa, what the hell, bro?

[B]

I'm almost done with Dan Duvall stuff. I'm gonna have plenty more than just. This is what I'm including. Because we got some side quests after that that are. And then we're making good time. This is good. But there is a Facebook group. I would love if you pulled it up. You don't have to. A Facebook group called Victims of Daniel Duvall and Bride Ministries. It has.

[A]

No way.

[B]

I checked a few months ago. It had 180 members when I checked now 181. Because I'm traumatized by him. And he, He. It probably has more now, but that was a few months ago. And I contacted everybody and told them about my book and they were all very supportive and reached out to me. Me. And I don't know if any of them bought it.

[A]

What's their. What are their issues?

[C]

Dina, there's 204 members now. This is psychotic.

[B]

How many members?

[A]

204.

[B]

That's not bad. And that's just the people who joined a Facebook group. How many are not joining the group that are traumatized by this man?

[A]

I want to. What Were some of their grapes.

[B]

Are you aware, I mean you. Yeah.

[A]

Integrated.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And now they're demonically possessed.

[B]

You know, problems being released during the session, then coming back later, much worse. Yeah, things like that.

[A]

Many such cases. Right.

[B]

Also realizing they were channeling and then it led some of the other mystic practices which they had to let go of because it was not Christian stuff like that. You can scroll through them if you want and find something. I don't know. But they are. That's just. How many members are on the Facebook group, how many people are not being. Not joining that.

[A]

Are you aware at all if. I know we kind of talked about this. I just want to hit on it again though. Are you aware at all if there's any sort of warnings coming from Dan Duvall about the arenas that people are

[B]

spirits or I mean.

[A]

Yeah, deceptive spirits and the nature of the spiritual realm and entering that arena and trying to navigate it?

[B]

Yeah, I've not heard a single one. I'm sure there's something. But I've not heard him mention like when you're trying to integrate your spirit, he never says, oh, there might be a fake little demon make sure you're calling the right thing. Which it doesn't matter. But you know, he never, I never heard him address that or otherwise I would include it in my notes and it would have been in the book. And I remember for a fact not encountering it. Now. I didn't watch every video he has. Sure. But I've watched his videos talk about integrating his spirit. Many of them where he talks about it and he never once talks about the potential of deceptive spirit spirits ever. So that alone. Because he knows the implications there. And he. That's why I lean towards.

[A]

Because all it turns into is, okay, if there's deceptive spirits. What about what you're engaging with?

[B]

Well, I don't want to think about that, so I'm not going to bring it up.

[A]

Right, man. Yeah, I mean just. There's so many layers of, of what would you call it? It's not just being irresponsible, it's.

[B]

It's being a vessel for Satan.

[A]

I don't know if I want to say being a vessel, dude, that's fair, sure. But it's like, yeah, man, you're. You're leading countless people into this thing that you don't even. You have no way of confirming is. Is real. You know, this, this pre ademic idea and then integrating these soul fragments and,

[B]

and while integrating literal aliens into the story and SSP Lore, by the way, which is very gnostic where I'm sitting.

[A]

It's like every episode is about, like, the deceptive nature of the spiritual realm.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The deceptive nature of the alien phenomenon. You know, like. Like this guy's kind of a douchebag. All right, but. But please, you. You. You were going somewhere.

[B]

You know, that's. I'm pretty much done with Dan Duvall stuff right now, and I had a few side quests that are important and related, and we're making good times, so we got this. And y' all can rant if you want to. At any point. I give you permission.

[A]

Oh, fantastic.

[B]

But I want to make sure I get all this. So basically, I think this practice is nothing new, it's just. Just the newer version of it. Sure. This is the re. The re. You know, redoing of SRT lore from a few decades ago. And that is just a redoing of ancient shamanism, which is not exclusive to shamans, but, you know, the more kind of third worldy type healings where they have these shamans who, by the way, are using trance states to contact very various nhi, or ancestors, even for them. And their main role is healing. Right. And they're diagnosing spiritual causes for these diseases. Jesus. And they're banishing or negotiating with the spirits.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

To restore balance.

[A]

What was Dan's method for.

[C]

For.

[A]

What is it as a meditative process?

[B]

What do you mean?

[C]

For.

[A]

For engaging in any of this. The recovery of soul fragments, the. The viewing of pre identification who is

[B]

coming in to fix a problem, goes under into a trance. They get relaxed, and then they. They're inviting Jesus and they're inviting these spirits.

[A]

And so wait, let's. Let's put this in the most gracious way possible. So he's inviting the individual, the patient

[C]

in, and does he admit to putting them in a trance?

[A]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, even that language, I don't know if that's really.

[B]

It's. I can't say for sure because I'm not in their body if it's a light or relax, because there is a difference between a light and a deep trance, but it's one of the two. And either way, you're in a trance state where you're pre. Consenting to entity invitation. That's part of it too. You're pre.

[A]

Okay, what does that look like? So he's inviting the individual. He's asking them to relax. Right. I imagine that that's the.

[B]

The says we're going to be communicating in your interview inner world. Go to your inner world, which is allowance because they consent and allow a vision to start. And once the vision starts, you encounter these beings because you're like, oh, we need to find the source of this problem. If you want me to read his prayers off that he does. They are crazy. I realize, please could you do that? I would like to.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I actually, I kind of want to

[A]

because even the language of allowing these things into your inner world is.

[C]

It raises like I'm being annoying when I'm asking that, like these questions.

[B]

But I like. No, no, no.

[A]

I wanted a great question specific because.

[B]

Because it's hard to follow. I know.

[A]

Because he's.

[C]

No, no, no, it's not.

[A]

Not.

[C]

No, it's not that it's hard to follow. It's that I want to be completely sure that what this guy is saying I'm interpreting correctly. This, this was our issue with Albarino as well for a long time. We're like, I don't know what the hell this guy is saying. We had to do a bunch of research.

[A]

Why is that the case with these guys? It's always the case.

[C]

It's like, it's. They're just, you know, drenching obscurity.

[A]

Nobody had to speak clearly.

[C]

We had to watch hours and hours of his. His material to make sure that this

[A]

is what this guy and still come away going, what the. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was very much a feeling that

[C]

this is going to be the case as well.

[B]

Yeah. He has a. I included a lit. I didn't do it earlier obviously, but I skipped through it and it is a list of his prayers in order. So if you. This will make more sense, I guess if I get into this. So I don't have the time stamp, otherwise I do the audiobook. That'd be fun. But. Oh well, he says now this is for confronting evil councils and alien groups specifically. So that's just one of the many things he does. So this is a monologue prayer, what she's doing during a session and just. Yeah, just check it out. He goes, father in heaven, I come boldly before your throne of grace to find mercy and grace to help in time of need. I enter your gates with thanksgiving and I enter into your courts with praise. I hide myself in Christ. I hide myself in Christ Jesus. And from the secret place I perform this renunciation and divorce. I command that every gate, frequency barrier, barrier equation, cloaking device, force field, sacred geometry, DNA matrix, apex of time formula, defense protocol and any other form of unholy technology that would otherwise hinder progress, conceal ungodly events, agendas and or activities in relation to the renunciation and divorce of blank. The person.

[A]

I feel like I'm listening to Billy Carson.

[B]

Oh, my God, that guy, right?

[A]

Like, that's what this feels like, bro. That list of. That you just rattled off, like sacred geometry.

[B]

What the are you saying? Where is this in the Bible? You know, it's not done. It gets sillier. So would be deactivated, disengaged, and moved out of the way, including all connected bombs, tripwires, and booby traps. Metaphysically, of course. What are you talking about? And then he says after. What chapter is this? Well, it's the. It's chapter three, but Dan Duvall's sub chapter, which is. It's on page 89. Oh, if you want to. Yeah, if you want to. It's chapter three. It's chapter three. So. So if you want to find the time stamp, it's probably two. Two hours and about maybe 10 minutes. Two hours and like eight minutes, something like that.

[C]

I'll find it.

[B]

That's crazy, because if you start at that, because there's three of these and I want to do. I want to read all three now. And there's more. So that's just the first.

[A]

This is definitely like. This is a. This is.

[B]

Oh, hold on. I'll tell you.

[A]

Sounds like Morgan Freeman.

[B]

No, it's my. It's my roommate, but possessed by an AI Demon because he was too.

[A]

So your roommate was an elderly black man in.

[B]

He's just a good voice actor voice.

[A]

But it's soothing deliverance.

[B]

I'll tell you. We have to move back and forward.

[A]

Physical law has no barriers.

[B]

Oh, no, go ahead. Like approach. Go ahead, like 15 minutes or go to 210. 2 hours.

[A]

10 minutes.

[B]

God restoring life.

[A]

Okay, there it is. There is the silly voice.

[B]

Just let it roll. Just let it roll. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Is that. Is that on the thing?

[C]

This is what you just read out

[D]

of the way, including all connected bombs, trip wires.

[B]

And the next one will read this perfect apex of time really had me for real. Duval then continues with renouncing connections.

[D]

I renounce my tethering too. Overlaying and interfacing with and all existence as the group of open all portals that are the group and all associated gates, paths, channels, forces, genetic and cellular anchoring data packets, ungodly DNA strands, bone marrow. Bone marrow assignments, blood plasma markers, meridian lines, chakras, energy signatures, neural lace. All related powers of darkness. Quantum technology technologies oversold. And any Other type of malevolent.

[C]

You forgot undersouls.

[B]

I was worried he was gonna forget the bone marrow.

[A]

He was gonna forget the bone marrow, bro. That is. There's more, but it's very Billy Carson.

[C]

It's thorough.

[A]

It is thorough. I appreciate that. I thought he was gonna stop whatever,

[B]

but that's what I'm saying is he's. He's doing okay.

[A]

That's so funny.

[B]

Easier.

[A]

Yeah, that's so funny.

[B]

Bizarre.

[A]

Well, can you. Can you read it? Because it's. It's just more efficient than skipping around and trying to find it.

[B]

No, it's right there.

[C]

Oh, it's right here.

[B]

Right there.

[C]

Let's keep playing.

[B]

Followed with a calling for judgment.

[D]

I now call for every algorithm or formula created from the listener's DNA and genetic material that is projected throughout the group to be shut down in every age, realm, dimension, frequency, vibration and timeline, past, present and future to infinity. I command the immediate apprehension of all hybrids and every cosmic artificial intelligence and technology behind those projections. And call for viruses encoded with heavenly algorithms to be uploaded into them and their computers in order to destroy them in judgment. I curse their computers with a curse of non. Existence.

[B]

Real. Got him.

[A]

I got him. Got him. Hit him with the curse of non existence. Hector, computers times infinity. Hit him with the. With the infinity.

[B]

This one is probably my favorite. I don't know. All right.

[A]

Let it rip. Let it rip.

[C]

Can we read it in this one?

[A]

This is.

[C]

Take that.

[B]

And that. Finally executing said judgment.

[D]

I demand judgment. And I call for a crushing blow against the great group and all of their operations executed by the armies of heaven. Chariots of fire, the broom of destruction, the tsunami of living water. Earthquakes, airquakes, seaquakes, confusion, the acts of the Lord and the fiery stream that proceeds from earthquakes.

[A]

Yeah. Air quakes. Mother. Hey, man, you better watch out for

[D]

earthquakes to collapse all of their realms. Programs. Backup programs. Bases, labs, craft grids, power sources and backup power.

[B]

Bro, you forgot their backup generators for the backup. Y' all cook it. Throughout the prayer, Dan periodically asks, do you agree? And the client.

[A]

Ow, man.

[C]

So this is the. That people are, like, paying for when they join his membership.

[A]

Well, look, if I'm paying you, you better be thorough with. With the. I want the earthquakes and the air quakes gone. Hit him with the. With the. The curse of non existence.

[B]

Crazy. Backup power sources.

[A]

That is so crazy.

[B]

Yeah, I had. I had a lot of fun with writing this.

[A]

This guy is.

[B]

He's a problem. He's going to be the. One of the biggest false prophets to ever Exist. If I don't stop him, I.

[A]

You know what I am glad about, though? No one else is. I like, I do, I do like how fun it is.

[B]

Like, yeah, the entire book is filled with. I mean, it's all a dark, real case studies and serious analysis analysis, but like 20, 30 of it is worded in a fun, silly, goofy manner. And then there's full on bits dedicated to like 3 to 5% of the book where I'm just doing comedic bits and going and getting really like crazy about it.

[A]

That is. That is insane.

[B]

Check it out. Buy my book, give me money.

[A]

Thorough, thorough prayer. And I appreciate that about it.

[B]

I'm glad we included that section. I forgot how important it was.

[A]

So, so, okay, let me ask you top, like, what do you think about that?

[B]

What do I think about?

[A]

Yeah, because you know, you're kind of asking, like, what is this guy saying as he's like bringing people into this? Like, okay, so you, he brings you in, lays you down, tells you to like, chill, give, you know, pseudo trans state, relax.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Where you're gonna invite these things into your inner world.

[B]

Jesus. Good guy.

[A]

Jesus. And then he does that.

[C]

I mean, what do I think about the whole thing?

[A]

Yeah. Like, if he does that to you, you go in there for some inner working.

[B]

My acid reflux went down, so it's all good, right?

[C]

You're not gonna do that to me because I'm not gonna go. But I think anybody who does, go. Good. You deserve that.

[A]

Yeah, you deserve it.

[B]

That's what God's saying here.

[C]

This is very clear. This is very clear. If I heard that prayer.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I'd be like, all right, cool. See you later.

[B]

Yeah. So.

[C]

But you know, people will fall for anything. So this guy is just another new age deception that's presenting himself as Christian,

[B]

but it's working on a lot of Christians right now.

[C]

Yeah, dude.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

All right.

[B]

I mean, a lot of popular Christian podcasters love this guy.

[A]

If somebody's so Elohim. Very funny. Galactic federation of smart light. This, this, this form you just saw,

[B]

like, well, we just went through my. That's for my book with this other guy.

[C]

It's the same.

[B]

No, that's a different.

[C]

The Christian community loves this kind of. They love it.

[A]

But this is a way where if you were like, okay, you have this galactic federation of light and all these entities that people have been channeling and they're constantly rebranding, presenting themselves differently, presenting different solutions, different explanations as to the nature of reality. And you wanted to bridge that group of entities To Christianity, this is exactly how you do it.

[B]

It's working. And I think it's going to have a big part to play in the future with how many people he's training right now in the most important time ever to testify for Christ. He's leading it people down to great deception because it's a coinciding with it.

[A]

I can't shake that man.

[C]

Extremely compatible with what is coming.

[B]

Yeah, which is why I worry about his rise that's happening right now very accelerated while and why my, you know, little dumbass has to be the only one who can apparently focused on him to take him down because nobody else is attacking him. Or if they are, I don't know. And they're not talking about SRT and how it's a rebrand and if they break it down like I planned on doing today, then they would see this is no way they can coexist. And that proves the demonic deception. It proves the vision theory without the astral lore we already got into. It proves the vision control. Yeah, so that's. I didn't even need to do last episode but I it.

[A]

No, but it's good to lay that groundwork so people understand.

[B]

That's why I had a whole plan. One point, part two part. And then third is reincarnation. You know, totally breaking that down which is important too. But this is a bigger deal to me right now because it's time sensitive man. So please launch his program.

[A]

What has he launched his program of like discipleship of teaching people.

[B]

He's doing it right now. He's taught hundreds. He's currently teaching hundreds. He said he's going to be soon in the thousands. So over a thousand. That's a lot.

[A]

What's that?

[B]

Watching his interviews and loving him and saying I want to join up and help people. And that's a good intention, but it's flawed, you know, deeply and scripturally, obviously.

[A]

Oh, is it Bride movement? Movement, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Bride Ministries or Bride ministries.

[A]

Okay, yeah. Bridemovement.com Equipping the body of Christ with community. It seems so innocuous on the surface. It's not a cult prayer give to mission. Support the missions. Train, shop. Who could shop?

[B]

Dude, infiltrate.

[A]

If you look at this like there is nothing. The great deception is incoming. Okay, cool. Connect with us in person or online for workshop, worship, teaching and fellowship.

[B]

There is enough in your guts, brother.

[A]

Dude, there's nothing in this that is even vaguely reminiscent of what we just heard.

[B]

Nothing.

[A]

Nothing about this website is vaguely. This I don't want to give the

[B]

details up to people who aren't in there. No, for sure, for a session.

[A]

But this looks like a run of the mill like, like, you know, church fellowship experience.

[B]

Like they gotta make it seem normal and casual because.

[A]

Wow. I'm just surprised. I expected to see some wonky kind of explosive content on this website. And I am seeing the most milquetoasts. This is like if Pastor Rick had this website, like, there's nothing here.

[B]

I, I need you to know how hard it was for me to dissect all this stuff because I had to go in and listen to a ton of material to dissect a few things. He says in passing. And doesn't focus on too much.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

Because the crazy quotes are coming out of like these tight little moments. And then he glosses over them. They're like, wait, what just happened? And people don't really think about it. But I mean, a lot. Here's one that I got the other day that I wrote in the book. It's not in the book, but I wrote it down. He says, I, I think I tweeted this. He says, we found fragments of people's spear on board craft operated by the Galactic Federation.

[A]

You know what's really strange?

[B]

Promoting Galactic Federation, right?

[A]

I was gonna say Galactic Federation.

[B]

And people started laughing, but. And it. So did Dan, kind of nervously. But then he glossed over and moved on.

[A]

You know what's really weird? 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19.

[C]

Their numbers are weird.

[A]

There are 19 people on his coaching thing.

[B]

Coaching, yes.

[A]

And three of them are dudes. The rest of them are all a lot of sense. Women, like, they love this kind of man.

[B]

Well, they want, they want to be healers and caretakers. And I appreciate 1, 2, 3 of it, but it's, you know, there's legitimately

[A]

three dudes on this entire thing of coaching, him being one of them. And all the rest of them are women. So these women are going to coach you on how to do the pre ademic thing, how to find your soul fragments, how to reintegrate them.

[B]

If a woman's healing me and it's not with a sandwich, I question.

[A]

That is crazy. That is crazy, dude.

[C]

Oh, I see here. It seems like these healers go to a class because they have a class date. Dates of 20, 22, 20, 24, 20,

[B]

soon to be in the thousands. So it over. That's crazy. That's a lot of numbers. He's blowing up, like I said. So you know, help me make this viral, guys, please.

[A]

That's interesting. Maybe look into some of these coaches, too.

[C]

It's interesting because now you've put. You've put somebody who otherwise wouldn't have been on my radar.

[B]

Well, he's about to be soon anyway. Yeah.

[C]

I mean, but in. In this manner, I'm sure it would have happened eventually because, like, you can only go so far before the message that you're there to. To preach actually comes out.

[B]

Yeah. So he's surprised. Y' all haven't heard much about. I mean, I had to know. I've actually listened a lot of crazy research into this.

[A]

I've listened to his appearance or appearances.

[C]

It's me, in my opinion. I'll be honest, what I heard on Merkel, I was like, that was fun.

[A]

But I was, oh, actually, you're doing things passively. I'm like, gym.

[C]

I remember where I was. This is before I was even working in the Standard. I was right there at the. At the Dunkin Donuts.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And I remember listening to my headphones. I'm like, this is fun, but I'm ordering coffee.

[B]

You didn't have a groundwork of the other stuff I presented is why it didn't hit you in the same way. Obviously, most people don't.

[A]

Also didn't know that he was discipleshiping and teaching them how to do this thing, like, this process.

[C]

I wasn't specifically also looking for it. Like, they. Sometimes I'll do a passive listening thing

[B]

where it's like, just like, yeah, I get it.

[C]

And it's like a dude you trust. So I'm like, all right, Merkel's gonna have this person on.

[B]

And that's a good point. Yeah.

[C]

You know, so I'm going, I love you, Tony.

[A]

And this isn't on Merkel either. Like, Mer, you can't. Every single person, to the degree that you're gonna. You know, when sometimes the thing sounds good and you don't have the. The context.

[B]

We push back on him, but he didn't really say, oh, I believe everything you're saying. But he seemed to align with, like. Because, you know, Tony still believes in the astral realm is a real place. He talks about the whole upside down place.

[A]

Well, that's interesting. Yeah.

[B]

It's not.

[A]

I wouldn't have thought previous to our conversations necessarily, I wouldn't have given a lot of thought to the idea that they're fabricating the entire. But the.

[B]

The explanation of that, when you know that's true, it puts into context not only the Christian Perspective is being validated even more by immense measures. But it also explains all these psychic vision testimonies of these fabricated things that don't make sense. And it explains past life memories which no one else I've seen have an explanation for besides vision impression.

[A]

You know what else it explains?

[C]

There needs to be like a, an explanation of that as well. Where like the actual realm not being real, it's like not real, but it's a thing that's happening.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, it's a real experience.

[B]

I'm very clear about that, obviously. But yeah, it's planted in somebody else's dream and they're controlling it.

[A]

Another thing that it, that it also proves is when people, they have remote viewers that look into like unsolved crimes and stuff, sometimes they find a lot. Well, sometimes they. Yeah, but sometimes they don't. But they still saw the thing. Yeah, it's like, yeah, you were just.

[B]

Here's the thing. You would say, why wouldn't demons who want to promote this give them 100 success rate? They cannot give them 100 success rate. They have to be wrong a percentage of the time for various reasons. Reasons. Because it, they, they need it to seem like it's not a perfected thing. Because Once you get 100 success rates in crime, then you go, oh, well, then every other data point must be correct. But the data always often conflicts with other remote viewing data. So to have that exist, you have to leave room for error. I didn't include that in my book, but that's smart and I just thought of it. No, but think about it. They always leave room for error because it's up to the. It's a human ability. It's not a demonic impression thing, they say.

[A]

So human error, they need to be

[B]

human error is a factor here. It is your psychic ability, not theirs.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

So they need to have statistic like certain levels of inaccuracy. And some people have higher accuracy than others. And I think that has to do with, you know, just picking and choosing who's more of a better vessel. And like Joe McMonagle, the biggest remote viewer ever or one of them for the government, is one of the most successful ones. And he's also one of the biggest proponents. And you know, he speaks on, he worked with Monroe Institute. His wife was the president of IT for years. It's just they use their assets and they play to their assets more to the smaller time people. Yeah, but they will. If you, if you have potential as an asset, they'll put in more work for you and make you get more right stuff. But part of it is how much you've allowed to merge with them. And the more you merge with them, the more the data comes in clearly. But it's still going to be pretty much. It's all controlled by them. It's all funneled completely. But. And they can give you real data and that's exactly how they get accuracy.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

Yeah. But it doesn't mean it's your super. Superpower.

[A]

Correct.

[B]

And they're doing it.

[A]

People just love.

[B]

We.

[A]

We buy into that so hard. It's my superpower.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Look at his.

[B]

I love Marvel movies.

[A]

Oh my God, they're fun.

[B]

I hate them.

[C]

His website is. The slogan is Affirm, Awaken, Activate. And like these are, these are like these buzzwords that use. Yeah. In a progressive manner. Well, affirm, affirmation, awaken is something that should usually, you know, put your prickles up a little bit. And then activate is kind of like this call to action which is just. But it's very strange how these words always lead to.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Some kind of.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You can almost call it on its face. But I'm. Anyway, no, I think you're right.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

The jury's still out on this dude. For me at least. But you have my full attention at this point.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. This is, this is, this might be the beginning of an interesting saga.

[C]

Oh God, I hope we don't get on his. No, I. Listen, man, it's taxing. You're gonna find out it's taxing.

[A]

Oh, it is. It is taxing once you start dealing with.

[C]

With, with this person. Because you're going to get his attention.

[B]

I hope so.

[C]

No, no, no. You're going. This is how the Internet, I think

[B]

shit's gonna get so sci fi so soon that, you know, the legalities of this issue might not be much of an issue because the distractions are going to overweigh it. That's my paradigm.

[A]

The legalities necessarily. It is the. Then the personality. It's entering the arena and engaging in. In what is intellectual combat. I suppose intellectual is a douche word.

[C]

But.

[A]

And it is, it is taxing. It just requires energy, it requires focus. It requires your attention to do this or not. Well, yeah. I mean you're built for it. Yeah. You know, and it's just like, you know, sometimes you wonder how many battles you got in you maybe is.

[B]

Well, I'm in my. I'm in my, My youth.

[A]

Yeah. You got, you got plenty. Plenty to go.

[B]

I can take a little bit of

[A]

a draining Drain the, the life essence from you. It's interesting, man. It's interesting because I see what you're saying and I've listened to this dude now, you know, clips here and, and the things that you've been reading and they're raising a lot of alarms and like I said, I do think that if you're looking for a way to bridge this alien deception that's coming, all this New age ideology, this Galactic Federation of Light thing, and you're looking to bridge it to Christianity, everything he's saying, there's your bridge. Sounds like a really, really great bridge

[B]

set up and packaged and ready to go whenever it's time to drop it. You know, just like the SSP stuff, which is underground right now, but whatever the time comes, comes, it's going to be more in the mainstream and it's going to be algorithmically, algorithmically promoted I think to some degree. When people want answers and they're going to get answers, they're just going to be, you know, pre packaged deceptions, the

[A]

ones that they're itching ears for.

[B]

Christians from the Dandy ball stuff and Albarino stuff, the pro alien, literal alien stuff. And then they're going to have answers for the new.

[A]

Everybody's going to get there.

[B]

It's it, they have it for all sides of it. They can muddy the waters with, you know, conflicting information because if you're already on a side, you're very unlikely to switch sides. Some people will.

[A]

It's like we could all be walking straight into the, the mouth of the beast. Beast while arguing about the nature of it, but we're all still going towards like, no, no, this is actually like Christianity. And they're like, no, no, let's keep going, but this is New age and no, no, let's keep going, but this is aliens. As you jump off and we're still all walking into this thing's mouth, man.

[C]

I see, I see exactly what's, what's raising your alarms about this guy. And that's just, it's the same thing with Albarina where it's like, it's, it's, it's this thing of like. Wait, what did you say?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, what.

[C]

Be more specific about that because you had some words in there that kind of triggered me.

[B]

Me.

[C]

You had something there that you said that raised an alarm or two. Yeah, it's just more and more, you

[B]

know, I think he's not as bad news as Duvall, obviously. No, I don't think. No, I, I know you don't, but I, I Just.

[C]

No, he's not. He's not even close.

[B]

No, no, I, I love Birthright, by the way. Except the end. But I, I'm a big, I'm a big fan of that stuff in the book, Enoch stuff. I just disagree with the alien stuff, obviously. Meat suit theory for the win. In my head.

[C]

The problem is that, yeah, they've built this narrative and, and it's. It almost feels like it's waiting.

[B]

And they're popular figures in this field, relatively.

[A]

Yeah. But.

[C]

But their narrative is waiting. It's waiting for a thing. It's waiting for a thing. And then when we call them out and we say wait, do you mean this? They're very slippery with the definitions, but when the time is right. When the time is right, they got it ready. Yeah, exactly. They're gonna go, look at this here and then push it on you and it'll be like a half truth.

[A]

Yeah. But, yeah, the inability to be clear is like a huge red flag, man. I think if you press me, like, I'm, I'm always going to tell you. Like, I don't definitively have. Have it figured out, but I can tell you what I think. And I could, I could put it in a way that you're going to understand and you might think I'm wrong, but you, you'll come away being like, okay, I, I understand what you're saying. I understand what you think. Whether or not I'm wrong. Is it these. It's like, what do you think? And it's like when they're done explaining, you're like, I don't know what the. You think.

[B]

I, I caught quite a bit of that, man.

[A]

Well, yeah, man. I mean, I'd like to have the, the reincarnation. You said that you wanted to have

[B]

a reincarnation discussion episode ready to go.

[A]

Ok, that, yeah.

[B]

Two to three hours of material easily in here. And it's basically breaking down exactly how reincarnation memories are, you know, implanted and now you can kind of make a guess of how for the most part. But it talks about the, the brainwave states of children and all these things. That's really specific. And it also talks about how the birthmarks can be explained away in many.

[A]

That's fascinating. I want to hear about that.

[B]

Which is pretty simple. When you, you know, put certain keys together with the vision control thing. Okay.

[A]

But it's like, I got a patch of white hair where my previous self died from a bullet wound in the head type of deal. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Right. Yeah. I'm gonna break that down and all the evidence now it's fake. And then the regression past life memories, how that's even more flawed and how there's conflicting information there. And then we're going to talk about SSP memories and how that's a really big deal. No one's talking about how the information coming out of there is very. Is very pre. Planning for the great deception for sure. And more stuff. But that's the majority of it.

[A]

All right, well, let's wrap this up. Seth, where can people find. Find your book and where can people find and support you and all of that?

[B]

The book is spirit realm shenanigans and unhinged rant exposing the psychic fabrications of discarnate dweebs and nephew nitwits. And it is a partial comedy real dark case study book found on Amazon and on my. Go to my link tree in my social media. I got my account back.

[A]

Yeah, he got his. He got his Twitter account back and I'm blowing up. Did you see my dialogue with. With in the DMs? Because I was cursing it out. I. I sent it memes of it sucking a million dicks and all kinds of stuff. See that?

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

I was like you. He's like, if you want to have the account, you could just pay some money. I was like, how about you suck my.

[B]

Oh, that's so heroic, brother.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Yeah, find it on there. Go to my link tree in my social media. On my social media is. I guess it's back to its old one. So my X, which is. I'm more active on with my weird stuff is My username is X at Seth Kicklider. Just my name and the you. The front name. This display name is Seth Lehem. No Underscore, which is a power move. And then my ins. My Twitter, my. My Instagram, which is my concert photography but also my. Some of my work is Seth Lehem underscore, which is less cool. And my. Reach out to me because you can find my link tree on my bio and that has all my stuff. My audiobook, my. I'm gonna have any podcast I'm on link there and I'm gonna have. Have my whole. My audiobook's free. That was the silly stuff we listened to earlier. It's. People are listening to it. So far it's going pretty well. But check it out, please. It's. It's free. Buy the book though, because it's easier to absorb the detailed, complex information via. Via that stuff.

[A]

I also want to say if you guys are disgusting and poor and you. And you don't want to pay for Seth's book. At the very least, I would say go and engage with him on X.

[B]

I will engage with anybody.

[A]

Because what we want to do is we want to boost this. What I've seen you doing is specifically engaging with compelling information.

[C]

Oh, by the way, I saw somebody took you up on your offer finally.

[B]

Yeah, a new ager Y. Shout out Kyle. He's gonna be one of us soon. Don't worry.

[A]

Shout out to Kyle. But, but go out there and interact with them to boost that algorithm so that this information can get a spotlight because it's important. And then all of this is going to lead ultimately to a, A, a battle of flesh against flesh and steel against steel with Seth and Dan Duvall. And if we want to see that happen, we're gonna have to, you know, give him a little bit of a. Of a boost there. Elevate is is his message.

[B]

So I would love to end on a little note.

[A]

Go ahead.

[B]

I had kind of pre planned because it's. It's kind of something I wanted to do. What was it? Okay, so I. This is a little unrelated but I wanted to shout out my. One of my male role models account name Red Underscore River Underscore D. Look at his pin post about the primordial origin of Satan. I'm not going to try to summarize it here because I'll poorly do do it, but a lot of people have the belief system that Satan was a fallen angel based off of a loose scripture reading of the Masoretic text and not using the septuagints different wordings of certain texts that totally change the meaning of the fallen angel interpretation. I think it's inaccurate and I think he wrote him. Him and my other friend who I connected, they ended up writing this together in this very weird way. And his, his name is zero ruck. Just the word zero ruck on Twitter. They are my boys.

[C]

What's the name of the first guy?

[B]

Let's look at Red Underscore River D Under Red Underscore river underscore D. He's one of my homies. He reviewed my book. It's on Amazon. He reviewed me. Very nice review. I talk to him all the time. He has quite a mouth on him. He's a funny ass. Dude. You should, you should have him on if you are interested. But I recommend you guys read this as homework. It is very. Is ahead of its time, I think. But I think they have an original view of who Satan is. And it's demystified his existence and, and what it means in a biblical context. And I think it's very important. I'm not going to give it to you in a summary because I'll butcher it.

[C]

No, actually I'm actually kind of. I'm fascinated by the subject because this

[B]

is my Bible scholar plug.

[C]

I agree. The nature of Satan being a fallen angel doesn't make sense. The time frames don't line up because he's around. He's around after the fall.

[B]

He explains why it's not and what he thinks it is based off of a lot of information. And I think it's pretty hardcore and I'd recommend anybody read it. He deserves some love. He. He's a real deal Bible scholar, OG cowboy, Guadalupe, Texas cowboy from Guadalupe. I had to shout him out because he's my boy. And zero Ruck as well, who helped him write this? They are. They're gangsters. I'm making an X community soon, I think based off of getting together real Bible thumpers who are like scripturally in the know. And I think I'm gonna start having X spaces. Maybe uh, just community, keeping up with. Keeping up with, uh, current events that are getting really crazy soon as they.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And also game planning, evangelism and stuff of that nature.

[A]

Very cool.

[B]

And defeating people who are supporting evil. So I plan on doing that in a very real way soon. And it just came to me yesterday, so don't get on my ass too much about it. I'm getting there. But shout out those guys, I love them and that's how I want it. And we did. Yeah, that's perfect.

[C]

You done with your plugs, dude?

[B]

Yeah, I had to do it, man. I stayed it to the end at least, you know.

[A]

Shout out to zero Ruck and Red

[B]

River D. Red underscore river underscore D.

[C]

You got to get a better name than that dude.

[A]

But it's cool.

[C]

Hook us up. I. I think I wanna. If. If he does podcast or whatever, I like to talk to him, but.

[B]

Oh, I would love to.

[C]

Excellent show. Until next time, don't forget to obey, submit and comply. We'll catch you tomorrow. Maybe.

[B]

The end is written in the book in the pages they foresee that's why.

[A]

When the last trumpet sound in the heaven.