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Nephilim Death Squad
Domes, Resonance, and the War on Geometry w/ Topher Gardner of BioCharisma Pod
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Join David Lee Corbo, aka the Raven, and Top Lobsta in an eye-opening episode of Nephilim Death Squad. In this episode, the hosts talk with Christopher Gardner, an innovative dome builder from the Ozarks, who shares his journey and knowledge in...
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Topher
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David Lee Corbo
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Topher
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Chris Gardner
We are being hypnotized by people like this. News readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers.
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Topher
We are in a country and in.
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Chris Gardner
A world that is being run by unbelievably sick people. The chasm between what we're told is.
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David Lee Corbo
Going on and what is really going.
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Chris Gardner
On is absolutely enormous.
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Topher
Oh yeah dude, this is not.
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David Lee Corbo
It's like we all know what's going down, but no one's saying shit. What happened to the home of the brave? They control this now when no one's.
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Chris Gardner
Talking about how they made us finally.
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David Lee Corbo
Slaves and everybody's just walking around heading the clouds and won't awaken to a dead in the grave by any too late. We need to be ready to raise up. Welcome to the end of day everybody is slaves. Only some are aware that the government releasing poison in there. You burp welcome back ladies and gentlemen to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad. I am David Lee Corbo, AKA the Raven.
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Topher
Sleepy Lee Corbo.
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David Lee Corbo
That is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation.
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Topher
Hello.
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David Lee Corbo
It is a little bit early and I and I know like no matter how much I I wake up, I'll shower several cups of coffee, a lot of hydration. Still can't shake it off my face. You could tell by looking at me.
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Topher
Well, maybe, maybe our guest has some answers. But let's. Let's run. We have to plug.
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David Lee Corbo
We have to plug away. It's very that we plug money or something. Patreon.com backslash forward slash.
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Topher
I'm very sorry one of the sensitive.
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David Lee Corbo
People out there about the slashes. Nephilim Death Squad is where you're going to want to be at the half an hour mark when we go live exclusively to our pay trion members. Key word there. Pay. That's the functioning word. We get away from the poor sometime around the half an hour mark if you want to prove to us that you're not poor and you want to continue enjoying this conversation, engaging in the live chat, gaining access to episodes before the general public and also getting first dibs on Bohemian Grove. 4 tickets when they are released. Then patreon.com forward/nephilim death Squad is where you go. Won't be.
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Topher
And don't forget to go there for your discounts on toplobster.com go buy some stuff. We have some more merch, some more designs coming out pretty soon, but Florida.
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David Lee Corbo
Illuminati, also a banger.
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Topher
Illuminati. Lot of fun. Go check that stuff out. Let's get into the guest because we have made him late.
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David Lee Corbo
Yes.
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Topher
And he looks very busy. He's actually kind of angry at the bottom.
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David Lee Corbo
He does look like a busy guy. And he's been waiting on us in our tech issues for quite some time. Joining us today is Christop Gardner. Chris, for the audience who may not be familiar with your work, who are you? What do you do?
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Chris Gardner
Well, nice to meet you guys. I've been listening to your podcast for a few months, and you guys rock. I really love your banter.
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David Lee Corbo
Nice.
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Topher
Thank you.
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Chris Gardner
I am a builder of domes in the Ozarks, and I also own a company that makes biochar, which I know our friend Brad Lale wanted, like, introduced us that way about talking about the hypercube of carbon, the 666 of it all. And yeah, so I'm. I'm originally a South Floridian, so I feel simpatico to you guys. I. I grew up around Latinos. My.
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Topher
Well, first off, I did. I didn't want to correct you before the show, but David's not Spanish. David's just a mutt.
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David Lee Corbo
Well, yeah, I'm what is affectionately. And I. You can call me this if you'd like. A Jewish bioweapon is. Is how I like to be addressed. Yeah, I'm a multitude of things.
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Chris Gardner
Well, that's the thing about the Jews. They can morph into whatever they want to. So, like, you being around Latinos by osmosis, you just kind of, like, morph.
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David Lee Corbo
Into that God, he does not know how correct he is. Yeah, I will code switch. If I'm around black people, I'll code switch. If I'm around Spanish people, I'll code switch. And I'm never enough for any of them, but please, go on.
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Topher
Yeah, yeah.
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Chris Gardner
So basically, I grew up in South Florida. Do you guys want the whole bio, like, real quick? And then we'll go, yeah, yeah, tell us.
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David Lee Corbo
Give us the bio.
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Topher
How do you get into what you're doing? Because it's odd.
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Chris Gardner
Well, I grew up in Florida, where there was some pretty bad hurricanes when I was a Kid like Hurricane Andrew ripped through. It was about 20 miles south of me, and it pretty much devastated an area where my dad was building. My dad was a commercial contractor. And so I got to see the devastation of Andrew in 91. And my dad kind of turned me on to domes. Like in not saying, like build domes, he was just like, oh, if you're going to build, you should build this way. And that just was kind of stuck in the back of my head. But I was an athlete. I got a scholarship to go to school at Michigan State and I kicked for them for four years. And so all that was like, I never ever thought I was going to be a builder or anything like that. I was just focused on girls and football and, you know, played a little bit in the Arena Football League after that. And then my body was pretty banged up and so I got into yoga to fix, fix everything. And that led me into an ashram, that led me to India and kind of put me in the new age world. And what was weird about that in the late 90s, early 2000s was that it was like I was surrounded by a bunch of professional athletes that were all trying to find the zone. Like pretty much like deep meditation is like the zone when you're an athlete. Which one of you is the pitcher? Which one of you can I pitch?
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Topher
He catches. That's it.
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David Lee Corbo
That was very.
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Chris Gardner
That's very rude.
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David Lee Corbo
Also very fast. Good job.
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Chris Gardner
Yeah. Yeah.
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Topher
So that was a picture.
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Chris Gardner
Yeah. So Owen was. Owen was telling me your exploits. Yeah. So, you know, when you're in the zone as an athlete, it's like one of those elusive areas that when you're not an athlete, when you're not in high stakes situations, it's sort of like hard to find. And so I found as I was fixing my body through all the asana and pranayama, I was also exploring like, how to actually make that, that frame of reference, the zone, be like a common day occurrence without like, you know, killing myself. And that, that kind of led me to Costa Rica and I ended up living in Costa Rica for 15 years. And in Costa Rica I saw, because of all the earthquakes and the storms that they were having, it kind of harkened me back to what my dad told me when I was a kid was like, hey, you know, domes are the way to build. And because I didn't have that much money and I saw a bunch of my friends lose all their investment into their. These homes that got ravaged by earthquakes, I decided just to go ahead and build domes for myself and I had a client of mine that he was a massage client, actually, and he saw some of the. The draft. The draftings that I had done for my own home. And he's like, that's exactly what I want. And I was like, well, if you send me to school to learn how to do this, I'll build you one. And he did. So he ended up sending me to Calarth University in Hesperia, California. And I took their dome building workshop. And they thought I was crazy because I told them, I'm like, look, I'm going back and I'm going to build this thing. And I showed them my plans and everything like that, and they thought I was nuts because it was pretty ambitious. And I did. I went back in 2008, built the whole thing, and from then on, like, I've never really wanted for work, and I kept evolving my practice. Like, their type of dome construction was just dealing with rammed earth. And it was really heavy. And so even though the shapes of the domes were really nice, the actual weight was not. Not actually appropriate for how soft the land was. So I just.
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David Lee Corbo
What is rammed earth?
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Topher
Yeah, great question.
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Chris Gardner
You've never heard of rammed earth? Rammed earth is like. So imagine you have a form. Say. Say you have a box, and then you put earth in it, and then you knock all the air out of it. You're essentially making a brick out of that earth without firing it. So I learned a system called flexible form rammed earth construction, where you take these long tubes, you know, the, like, the sacks that they, like, will put, like, grains in. Well, before they cut those sacks, before they cut the sacs, you end up having this. This huge tube, and you can cut that to any size you want. And what we do is. That's what we do. We'll cut those sacks into the sizes that we want, and then we backfill them, and then we tamp them into place. And so here in the Ozarks this last year, we've built five buildings, and we've laid, I think, something close to 100 tons of earth and shaped it. So it's like sculpting. It's a very rudimentary way of sculpting. But the whole notion was biogeometry. Like what my dad was telling me when I was a kid. And what I saw in Costa Rica is that essentially, when you build boxes, when you build, you know, essentially a cube. Nate, Mother Nature doesn't like cubes. You know, cubes get. Get blown away. And, you know, I don't know how long you guys have been down in Florida. I think you're in central Florida, but at least in South Florida for a time there, we were getting hit by a lot of hurricanes. And no matter how, and no matter how well the houses were built, you'd have these problems with the roofs getting popped off and all the rest of it. And it's just because it's not natural to have, you know, these, I guess you would call them post and beam structures because of low pressure that occurs when, you know, air moves very fast over the roof, all the rest of it. So I just started building domes and modifying my system so that they could handle earthquakes, they could handle the amount of rain. And ever since then, people have kind of really taken to it because I've hybridized the system of using rammed earth with these steel structures that are, they're originally called a Japanese star dome. But he actually got the mathematician that figured that out. He figured out the math from mandalas.
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David Lee Corbo
Oh, that's interesting.
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Topher
Are these your constructions, Chris?
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Chris Gardner
Yeah, yeah.
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Topher
These are fan. Yeah, these are fantastic, man. You're using. Yeah, like mandala, golden ratio type of construction. Interesting.
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Chris Gardner
Yeah. So like the coral domes right there, that, that company, I, I've. That's a offshoot of my original company in Costa Rica, Tico Dome, which, that dome that you see right there with that roof, with that reciprocal roof, that's a Teco dome. That was my original invention where you have this massive free cast concrete, nylon cement roof over a dome. And then that way you could have rooms offshooting the center of the building. And you'd have essentially the dome as the great room. And those were about 8 meters wide. So the great room was about 500 square feet. And then all the bedrooms and bathrooms and everything like that would offshoot off, off the center dome.
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Topher
How, how large can you build one dome? This, this one here looks fairly large, but like, what's the biggest you can build it without, you know, I guess considering, considering the structure without sacrificing some of the integrity of it.
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Chris Gardner
Well, we just, we just completed our largest one, which is a 42 foot diameter, which is 1600ft, just under the dome itself. So I really like, I like modular dome. I like modular buildings. I'm sort of like a Mediterranean type of like if you were to take like a Frank Lloyd Wright, mix them with like a dome builder and then throw them in the Mediterranean, that's what I am. So I like courtyards. I like, I like structures that are hyper resilient to like the sheer forces of whether it's wind or earthquakes here. Where we live in the Ozarks, we get a lot of tornadoes like this. Last year, just the tornado alley that we're in, we had seven tornadoes pass through here. And so, yeah, I just had to get Starlink because all of our towers are gone. Like, I, I used to get full bars here. Now I get one bar. So I had to Starlink it up.
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Topher
But me, me too. Out here, same thing. It's not, not because of weather. It's just because I'm in the middle of nowhere.
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Chris Gardner
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm in the middle of nowhere and we've been getting all these like, tornadoes. So what I'm seeing as like the market inefficiency right now is tornado structures. Because most tornado structures that they build are boxes. They're kind of ugly. They're usually like some sort of steel box. And then they're not good to be in. Like, if you're in them for any period of time, you feel like you're in a prison cell. So pretty much, I could see in the very near future, instead of people doing storm shelters where they have these, like, gross, you concrete and metal boxes to be in, they'll have just like a little dome that then they can rent out to people or whatever because you, you can make. They're so much more resilient than, than a cube. And just because there's nothing for the wind to catch on to. Right?
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David Lee Corbo
Well, yeah, it's interesting because the market right now is moving in a slightly different direction with the popularity of shipping container homes, which is because they're just like big steel traps.
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Chris Gardner
No, I'm telling you right now, like, that was a fad that down in Costa Rica was really big deal because Costa Rica has ports on either side of the country. I mean, it's the rich coast. So you would have all these containers that were available by the time you treated the metal, by the time you cut the metal, by the time you made it so that the metal didn't sweat because the AC and all the rest of was so much cheaper just to build a regular building. The shipping container thing is really good. If you need an extra bodega or storage space. Yes, sorry for my terminology. If you need extra storage space that you don't need the temperature control, but whenever you heat or cool metal, it's going to attract water. So unless you're, unless you're willing to really, like, seal these things up or get a refrigerated one that has the insulation and has stainless steel, they're not worth their time.
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Topher
And honestly, like, I saw somebody has like this storage unit house where they built, and it's like, it's very, like, oddly geometric. It's strange. It looks like modern art.
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David Lee Corbo
There's one right around the corner from you. Have you noticed it?
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Topher
They're building.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, they just dragged two shipping containers onto their property.
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Topher
Damn. Nightmare.
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David Lee Corbo
It does. It looks like a big prison. I wonder.
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Topher
Yeah, I don't. I don't like the aesthetic of it. The stuff that you're showing me here with the domes looks beautiful. It looks like something you'd see in Tartaria. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The other stuff, it looks like, you know, that's in these modern museums with. We're supposed to consider it art.
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David Lee Corbo
What I'm wondering is what happened. Like, I understand the, the, you know, the benefit of the structural integrity of like, right angles and things like that, but as far as wind resistance, you know, just having this gigantic flat surface made of right angles is not going to do you any favors when a big wind comes through. And yet that has become the norm and the standard and certainly in the west here for, you know, hundreds and hundreds of years. And it seems pretty intuitive to say if you're in an area like, let's say you're in an area that is prone to earthquakes, as soon as that right angle fails, the structural integrity fails and the whole thing comes crumbling down. You don't really have that issue when it comes to domes. You also don't have that issue when it comes to wind resistance and domes. You also don't have that issue when it comes to rain water, when it comes to a dome. So it seems so intuitive. And yet here in the west, everything is predicated off of right angles and flat surfaces. What happened? I mean, it seems like common sense.
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Chris Gardner
Well, my dad, you know, he was an architect, and when he was in College in the 60s, they had this huge shift in the architectural language. They went away from, like, classic, I guess you consider it Northern European roots of having big bay windows and nice curve. Like, if you go into any old town Germanic town in the United States, like in Wisconsin or Illinois or any of these, these. These places that were essentially 150 years ago were bustling, right? You have. All the houses have character. And what you'll see in all the houses is that even when you do have flat surfaces, those flat surfaces are always broken up by different levels. And he was telling me he was really upset in the 60s because in the 60s they brought in the Bauhaus method, which when you look into social engineering, social, in social engineering, they figured out in Russia, essentially the ussr, when you put people in boxes, they lose all hope. And so what they did was they essentially created this, this design language to quote unquote, standardized construction. And the standardized construction method was to make it so that people became material dependent and not geometry dependent. So in the past, in the past, you know, everything was geometry dependent. Like when you look at a dome, whether it's a beehive dome or a hemispherical dome or whatever, that's all geometry dependent. Like I build tensegrity structures. So people are losing their mind. When I'm building these things, they're like it's never gonna work. Like everything looks floppy and then once it's put into position, it gets tense and then it's perfect forever and nobody can understand it. It's the exact opposite of post and beam construction where you put up a post and then you put your beam across and you level it and you plumb it and all the rest of it. And there is a time and place for which is appropriate. But for dwellings that are going to last a very, very long time, you need to depend on geometry, you don't need to depend on materials. And where I was in South Florida, there were all these homes that were being built on the intercoastal. And it became very, very apparent that the Bauhaus method became the norm. And you just, you just see it, it's a contractor's wet dream because they can just charge more for materials. It's just like, oh, I need this beam to run 60ft. And it's a, it's a, it's a 2 foot by 4 foot concrete beam that's running 60ft. Well, that's a hundred thousand dollar beam with the steel and when it's poured and all the rest of it and the contractor is just making 20% on it and it's just like woo hoo. So the geometry of things has been lost to a big part. Like I have people that work for, that are friends of mine that work for some of the largest construction companies in the world, like Halliburton and, and Turner Construction. And as architects they're kind of caught in hell because all they do is do litigation. All their whole thing as an architect is just limiting liability and looking at precedence. They're not designing anything. And I'm on the other side of the scale being like none of that means anything to me. I'm not building commercial buildings, I'm building actual domiciles. For people to live and thrive in that feel good. And I got it. I got into that because I was working in these incredibly high level spas all over the world. Because my first, my first and longest occupation was deep tissue myofascial release. And when you work in these really high end spas, you'll notice in like some of these spas, the rooms are not cubicle the way they'll do. The rooms, they, they have very soft edges. And I always noticed it was like I always could like work like all day in some of these rooms that were like just really beautifully curved and manicured and they had like the water going on in the background and they had like the, the good aromatherapy working. And I was like, geez, my body stays vital the entire day. Where if I worked in like somebody's dining room that was like this gross cube, you know, I'd lose my mojo really, really quick. Right. So there's, I just became kind of sensitive to like the space overall. You know, all of us have women in our life. That's kind of like what the women do is they're always kind of like, you know, taking care of the set and setting. Like, you guys have done a nice job with your new set and setting that you got. Set and setting. Set and setting kind of like really makes things.
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David Lee Corbo
Well. That is, there was an entire school of, I don't know if it's actually.
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Topher
Called this feng shui.
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David Lee Corbo
Feng shui, yeah. And it's kind of ridiculed because, I don't know, I guess like white woman, White women with dreadlocks.
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Topher
But it's the same, the same thing with like this new age movement. It's like white women have kind of co opted it, made it look foolish. There's a lot of truth in it.
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Chris Gardner
Right.
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David Lee Corbo
Well, what he's talking about is being, you know, being trapped in this kind of. Everything is 90 degrees and you're in this cube and it disrupts the flow of energy. There's a whole. The feng shui is based off of this idea of the way that energy flows through a room. They even have so many, you know, stipulations as to like, not keep a mirror in a certain location. You want the mirror, I think, to be facing an opening so that there's some sort of reciprocation of energy and.
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Topher
It has to leave.
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David Lee Corbo
I don't know.
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Topher
Let me ask Chris, but put a pin in that, in that thought. But on the inside of your, your dome styles, how are you? Are you sheetrocking this? Because I Know, this, like, this sheetrock stuff is garbage. Like, as far as, like, the resonation of this, of the Sheetrock, it's not vibrating on a human level at all. And neither is most of our wood. Now, like, I. I actually did construction in my old house in Brooklyn.
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David Lee Corbo
Oh, yeah.
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Topher
We took out a wall and opened it up, and I, you know, I made a beam to hold it up. It's all of right angles, of course, because that's all I know how to do. And the old stuff that we took out, the house was built in 1912, something like that. And you can look at the grains of wood and it. First off, it's. It's colored like this, like, like our couches. And there's so many grains within the wood that I was like, is something wrong with this wood? No, because it's.
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David Lee Corbo
Why are there so many lines in this?
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Topher
Why is there so much lines in my wood? Yeah, but, yeah, now that. Now the stuff you see, you can count the lines. There's like 15 of them. It's crazy. It's so degraded and it's basically dead material.
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David Lee Corbo
I know that speaks to the age of a tree. When you harvest it, the more rings, the older the tree. And I guess it's because we've taken down all the old ones and we're planting trees and. And then we're harvesting them beforehand.
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Topher
This is what Chris is saying.
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Chris Gardner
Right.
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Topher
It's just like, because we're so dependent on the materials that we're probably just sapping this stuff out. So what, what are you using on the inside of your domes?
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Chris Gardner
I'm a mason. Like a. I'm a Ferro cement mason. So I deal with mainly all cement.
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Topher
And what level. What level of mason?
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David Lee Corbo
33Rd degree ferro cement mason.
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Chris Gardner
Yeah, I just say that just to be. To be kind of a jerk. I deal with masonry mainly just because it's so much. It's so much more viable than the wood that you can get now. Like when I. When I get yellow pine or even white pine right now. Like the, when you, when you touch it, it's like paper mache.
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David Lee Corbo
Oh, wow.
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Chris Gardner
It's like, hey, Madeline, that's cool that she. I didn't know Madeline watches your show. The. Yeah, I got exposed to very, very high end, high quality materials. Like in carpentry, you can't find any of that wood unless you're a multi, multi, multi millionaire.
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David Lee Corbo
Wow. That's how bad it's gotten.
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Chris Gardner
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like for. For a real windfall mahogany tree before it's cut up is 100 grand.
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Topher
Wow. Yeah, wow.
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David Lee Corbo
That's incredible. I mean, that seems a little bit untenable.
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Chris Gardner
It is untenable. So what they're giving, so what they're giving, the quote unquote working class, is they're giving them sticks. They're literally giving them pine sticks. And what used to like the, and I know this because my family owned lots of, of property in northern Florida back in the day. What the, the way they used to do the, the yellow pine in North Florida was you'd have a 30 year track of land and every 30 years that would be harvested and then they would rotate it. And that was like back in the 40s and 50s and 60s. Well, they've since rotated. It's now a 15 year rotation. And then they have these white pine trees that grow very, very fast, but they never get as dense. And pretty much all your two by fours, like, if you look at like the, the sizes of two by fours now, they're not two, they're not a two or a four. They're in a one and a half by three and a quarter. Like it's, they're lying. So not only is the wood smaller, it's so much softer. And so when I was looking at all this, and now they're saying, okay, you need this amount of soft wood to create this. And then the shape that you're actually creating in and of itself is less resilient. And when I was looking at the science of it, it was like, okay, if you have a flat plane like this, you put a six degree arc in it, it's now six times as strong. You put a double arc in it, it's 13 times as strong. So why would I be building structures that have flat walls with inferior product just to have it go away? And that's the whole thing that goes back into the so Bauhaus thing of like, this whole thing is engineered to fail. They measure, they measure economies by how much trash you produce. The more trash you produce, that means the better commerce is, the more commerce there is. And I saw this in Florida when I was growing up. Like all the contractors were like rubbing their hands the second a hurricane came through. It's disaster capitalism.
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Topher
Like, it's disgusting the way, the way the contractor culture is here. Because I did construction in New York, so I'm familiar with how these guys operate. But over here, man, they were like sharks. It's horrible. Like, my parents built a property, built a house on my property, right, right across the way. And dealing with these people Was like. It was, it was predators.
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David Lee Corbo
They're like predators.
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Topher
It was litigious. Rather than like, I mean, no one's really out there trying to do good work. They're just trying to like, you know, get, get. What was that called? Get, like clearance from the, the county to do whatever. Yeah, it's just charging more money. I'm just like, you know what?
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David Lee Corbo
Also I realized, like, people back in the day, like, you know, karate board breakers, much more impressive. Not as impressive now when they bust the board. Not very impressive. I was talking to our. One of my buddies, he's actually in the chat, Scott. And you know, I have this, this Hyundai, this 2013 Hyundai, and I used to own an old Jeep Cherokee. And I was talking about how wonderful it was because the Jeep Cherokee, there's all this room to work in there. It's very simple. You want to swap a part out, it's no big deal. You can. You have space for your arms. All the new cars are just covered in so much plastic and everything is so computer dependent. And he said to me that the reason they do it like that is because they don't want you to maintain your vehicle. They want you to trade it in. They just want this constant system of trading it in. So. So now when they're producing these cars, it's not just about the economy of it now, but it's about the potential financial benefit of it in the future in regards to new models that they're going to release. And it's like.
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Topher
But that's the model with everything.
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David Lee Corbo
It's so annoying though, dude, because you can't maintain is. It just. It kind of feels the same. It's like if you build a house like that, you're going to have to do home repairs in a much shorter span than you would. So now it's benefiting that market again in 30 years.
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Topher
The conspiracy of the light bulb. Like, way back in the day, filament in the light bulb that would last for like, you know, years and years. And now, like, we have to like, really dial that down because how are we supposed to sell this? Yeah, I do understand it though, because if you want to have a business.
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David Lee Corbo
Like, everything is like that. Dr. Pilkenstein. Is that his name?
- [29:43]
Topher
I don't know who the hell you talk.
- [29:44]
David Lee Corbo
I'm like the new Tesla. Oh, but I'm black and he crushes. I love that guy. Come on. That's a really good impression.
- [29:51]
Topher
That's a good impression. I know who you're talking about now. Talking about he.
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David Lee Corbo
He has this wonderful old stove that he's. He's, you know, refurbished, and it's now his. His main stove that he uses. I came across one the other day. I was walking past some old antique store. I said, look at that. That's that stove that Dr. Pilkenstein, or, you know, whatever his name is, he has that. And it's amazing because it's still there. And I'm willing to bet if you took that thing from that antique store and you just took care of it and updated it a little bit or refurbished it, it'll still work. It'll still work. And we don't build anything like that anymore.
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Chris Gardner
No. Nope. Now they've over complicated things for the planned obsolescence, and they've overcomplicated things from a materials perspective. And so I've gotten back to, like, doing things very, very simply. And. And the geometry is geometry. Like, anybody can do it once you know it, and it's very simple. And where I was in Costa Rica was pretty rural. Like, I was down in the southern Pacific zone, and we were in an area that was wet, wet. And so we had to get. It wasn't like I could have, like, concrete trucks, like, you know, come in or anything like that. Like, there was no big trucks that could get to our site. So I had to learn these ways of kind of leaning on manpower and being efficient with materials, just because materials were hard to come by. And that. That actually makes geometry all that much more important. Yeah. This is a stardom. This is the mandala I was telling you about. So this is scalable, like this particular dome right here. This is the size, this is the scale of the majority of the Tico domes that I built in Costa Rica. That dome that you see with the red door right there, that was actually a sound studio that I built for my friend Drew. And you can get really cool acoustics. Like when you start to. When you start to play with these shapes and everything like that. It's just like whenever you've seen these theaters or these opera houses and things like that, there is a reason why they used, you know, essentially the conch shell formations and these big, beautiful vaults because they amplify. They're a literal amphitheater because of what they're doing to the concrescence of the vibrations.
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David Lee Corbo
It's so wild that we wouldn't emulate nature. I mean, people that are really into sacred geometry are determinating or are determining that. You know, I like that word, determinating. I should have kept it. I know they're Determinating that. That this geometry is. You know, it's a fundamental building blocks of the realm that we inhabit. You can see it. You know, you're talking about the Fibonacci sequence. You could see that in a. In a pine cone and all these different things. Nature is rich with geometry.
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Topher
But what was the.
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David Lee Corbo
Just not the nature of geometry that we emulate?
- [32:48]
Topher
Remember that. That church that we were looking into, like, a year ago. I forget exactly what it was, but somehow they emulated the.
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David Lee Corbo
I forgot what church it was, but it was a cathedral. And. And when they took the organ that was playing and they recorded it from. From inside the cathedral and they plugged it into a. A cymatics plate. Or is that what it's called? The cymatics plate?
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Chris Gardner
Yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
And they have all this.
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Chris Gardner
Actually, I've interviewed the woman that did that whole.
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David Lee Corbo
Oh, really? Perfect.
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Topher
So tell us, because we were going to.
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David Lee Corbo
Wait, no, no, no. We have to boot out the poor people before we. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Guys, if you want to hear about the woman in the plate and. And the organ, you're gonna have to go to patreon.com, backslash forward slash. Damn it, Nephilim Death Squad. Otherwise, we're getting out of here, and the episode will drop in its entirety in about a week. We're really crushing, actually, on the turnaround time, guys. We've gotten a lot better. We're working hard. See you guys later.
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Topher
Poor people.
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David Lee Corbo
All right, so. So please tell you, you spoke to the lady. Don't let us talk about it.
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Chris Gardner
Yeah, so the. The woman that did the experiment, her name is Tanya Harris. I've had her on my podcast a couple times, and she's from Ireland. She was going to, I believe, some really prestigious art school in London. And she got really into cymatics and the. The art that cymatics were making. And she had this idea that, you know, if she. I forget the gentleman's work, who she was leaning on, but she had. She essentially read this gentleman that said that every cathedral has a base resonant frequency. And so she took his method, which is a really cool method. You guys would probably appreciate this. You go into the cavity of the structure, and what you do is you record seven different times the silence of the structure. But each successive time that you record the silence, you're playing the first recording of the silence back.
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David Lee Corbo
Whoa.
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Topher
Why seven? Why seven times?
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Chris Gardner
There's something. There's some harmonic with seven. It has something to do. I don't know exactly.
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Topher
It's interesting, the guitar here at the Seventh fret. So do you play an instrument?
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Chris Gardner
No.
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Topher
Okay. The guitar has natural harmonics on it. So at the 12th fret, which is the center point from the nut and. And, yeah, so the nut and the. The very bottom. I forgot what it's called. It's exactly half. But at the seventh fret, right here, if you. You could hear the harmonics just by slapping it there, there are natural harmonics that occur at the 7th, 12th, 15th. And then you could even get them if you're. If you're very good at, like, pinch harmonics or harp harmonics. So it's. It's interesting. Right at the seventh fret, which is not necessarily in the middle or even like three quarters of the way. It's just that.
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Chris Gardner
That seventh fret. I would love for you to measure that and tell me, because there's this. There's this. There was this. Have you guys ever heard of the name Victor Schauberger?
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Topher
No.
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Chris Gardner
Okay. So part of the reason why I build domes and all these biogeometry buildings is because of this Austrian inventor named Victor Schauberger. He was, like, on the. He was on the level of Tesla, John Worrell Keeley. Like, he was one of these really brilliant people. And he. He created this term called dynamic disequilibrium. And so we're all told that we're supposed to be in equilibrium, which is utter BS if we're in equilibrium, like, from a tonal perspective, that's a flat line. So what he was saying, just slightly off center, center skewing, like, closer to, like, 66, 33, or 70, 30. You have this dynamic dis. Equilibrium, and this creates flow in life. And a lot of people look at this as, like, the. The flow dynamic between men and women. Like, the male takes the leadership role, like, you know, 70% of time, and then there's that 30%. And like, if both are trying to be equal all the time, it doesn't work. You get stuck. Stagnation. Right. And so the energetics with. What you're talking about with Tanya was talking about is Tanya was able to show that by the time you played the seventh, you did the. The seventh recording of the silence. With the silence being played back, the whole structure would resonate. And when the structure would resonate, they would put it on. On these. On these E meters, and you would see that there was a constructive interference. There was more energy in. Well, they took that constructive interference. They actually ran it through a signal processor. I think that's the right way of saying it, to create A sub auditory sound. And then they were playing that through. I think it was either a 12 or 15 inch woofer with a plate on it for the cymatics. And what was amazing was, is when they did the cymatics, guess what? The actual form that the cymatic would make of the resonance of the building matched the rose window.
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Topher
Right, that's.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, that. But that's so much cooler than the way we've been lying about it. Let me ask you this then, Chris.
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Topher
We were close.
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David Lee Corbo
We were. No, I said there was an organ involved. And that's so much better than there being an organ involved.
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Topher
It's just the natural cymatics. Well, what room is incredible.
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David Lee Corbo
What I'm wondering is which came first? Were the windows designed with some sort of, you know, foreknowledge?
- [38:28]
Topher
No, you have to, I mean, you have to build the structure, then you put the windows.
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David Lee Corbo
No, I mean like the design of the windows, you know, was that done with some sort of foreknowledge of, you know, resonance and frequency? Or is that cymatics design that. That emerges on the plate of an actual. What's the word? Product of the structure of the windows? You know what I'm saying?
- [38:53]
Chris Gardner
Like, I, I think, I think it was. I think they actually had the vibration pattern first and then design and design the building around it. Because with Tanya, I actually had a project. We, we created a, A proposal for the World Economic Forum. The World Economic Forum. They have this whole grandiose idea to put everybody under these, like, you know, I guess you would say it like the smaller vestiges of the firmament and in these like, domed areas where everybody's gonna be living in the future, they want to have these parks, and part of these parks are, is that they want to measure the, the. The, I guess you would say the biomarkers of humans relative to plants. So we were, we were given all these parameters and she wanted me to actually create a resonant structure where the plants would be and the humans would be together. Where like all, like the heart. The heart math diagnostic sensors would be there to both measure the plants and, and the humans. So we did. The, the proposal wasn't. I never heard whether. Obviously didn't go through or anything like that, but it was going to be an art installation of something that looked very similar to a beehive dome. It was just truncated on the top and it was an actual resonant structure. So you have like people who make drums that resonate, people that make, you know, the violins, all these musical Instruments that you were bringing up before, you know, they will actually know the pitch that they want to hear. They'll know like what, what the tone of the actual instrument should be. And they kind of like back engineer it. They kind of do like trial and error until they get it right. And I think our forefathers actually had a much, much, much more substantial knowledge of how to like, okay, we want to produce this resonant tone. This resonant tone is this specific architecture with these materials. Because, you know, architecture has been said to just be frozen music. And I really believe that.
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Topher
That's interesting.
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Chris Gardner
Yeah.
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Topher
Especially when you're looking at like the tartarian type buildings. But it reminds me this right here, you know, we have the, the Matt Rife coil for rife technology. And his theory is obviously that there are tones and frequencies that you can play to break down cellular structures of different organisms, whether it be. I'm not even going to say because, you know, obviously they're going to be like, that's medical misinformation. But you know what I'm talking about. So back in the day, these people knew about this stuff.
- [41:52]
Chris Gardner
Yes.
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Topher
Does this, would this lean into the idea of bells, like the bells that were in our society and are now buried?
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Chris Gardner
Yes, absolutely. I think the bells were a technology because even in the, in the 40s and 50s, there were people making. They were able to boil water with bells with like next, with no energy, they would just get the bell to resonate in water and the bell shape itself would cause the water to boil. So you could create steam, like so efficiently because you're not like trying to heat it with something that's exploding or with fire or whatever. And so these bells are shown that they would create this micro cavitation. Well, the air that we live in, like, we all breathe air, but most people don't know that air is a fluid. And so if the bells could create cavitation in a thicker fluid medium like water, what do you think it was doing to the air around us? And cavitation, is that that aspect of nature that they totally took out of the science books? Like the gentleman, Victor Schauberger that I was talking about earlier, he was the one that was spreading to the world. Hey, cavitation, at its very most minimal way of looking at it, is at least 400 times more efficient than explosion. So you guys like, you lived up in New York, right? Yeah. When you, in some of the old buildings, did you ever experience like when you would have water running and then you turn the water off, and then the pipe shake. Did you ever go.
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Topher
All the time.
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Chris Gardner
That's cavitation. And what they were finding with these massive water mains in all these cities is that they would blow and they would have, like, no idea. Like, how is it. This pipe is rated at, like, 1000 psi. How can that water actually crack that pipe? Is it a faulty pipe or whatever? And they figured out it's cavitation. And what cavitation is is in nature, when you have a flow of something moving, and then you truncate the flow, there's a collapse. Because nature abhors a vacuum. And I'm sure you guys have heard that term before.
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David Lee Corbo
And so you get, like, these oil tankers, like, you know, collapsing on themselves and things like that, right? Like, you'll have, like, anything that's supposed to be a pressurized tank. I think it's like a temperature variation, if it's drastic enough, can cause that pressurized tank despite the walls being made of, like, however thick steel. Collapse. Yeah, dude. It's. It's. It's terrifying.
- [44:32]
Topher
The vacuum machine videos, and they'll put things in it, and then they'll just vacuum. And sometimes the thing will just be like. Yeah, because. Because of the. I guess the cavity. What do you say?
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Chris Gardner
But that's. That's not cavitation.
- [44:45]
Topher
Oh, it's not.
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Chris Gardner
That's depressurization or pressurization. Cavitation is even stronger than that. If you ever get. If you ever get a chance to look up the bullet fish, there's this documentary. You know, it has, like, some British guy talking in his British accent, talking about the bulletfish. Cavitation is actually how our heart works. You know, we were lied to telling us that our heart is a pump. And it's not a pump.
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David Lee Corbo
It's like a vortex, right?
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Chris Gardner
Well, it's a vortex because of cavitation. At the very center of every vortex, you have cavitation. It's electrical cavitation. One thing that my mother was in cardiology, and so I was always being browbeaten about the heart. And it's a pump and all this stuff, when learning the anatomy of it, it was like, oh, we have something called the aortic arch. Why is it when the heart is completely under pressure, does that aortic arch drop? That makes no sense. Because when something's under pressure, it expands. So how could you have it collapsing when it's under pressure? Right? And it's because it's not under pressure, it's under cavitation. And so cavitation the way you could think of it, it's like women, right? And I don't mean to be crass, but like all of us, I think all of us have kids, right? Well, yeah. How did, how did the kid happen? We made love to our woman. We gave energy to essentially an empty cavern. That empty cavern collapsed and then life was. And now that kid is like an infinite energy being that will continue to produce and produce and produce.
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Topher
Have you seen the videos of that.
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Chris Gardner
Of like the life?
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Topher
Yeah, exactly. It's fantastic. It's a brilliant light. Right when the sperm enters the egg. It's just like a flash of. Yeah, that's cavitation. That is cavitation. That's incredible, dude.
- [46:40]
David Lee Corbo
Dang.
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Chris Gardner
Yeah, so cavitation is how mother nature gets all this work done with so little input energy. You know, you have the, the NASA scientists that say, oh well, the sun has, you know, distributed X amount of joules of energy. But yet if you were to calculate all the biological things that occur here on, on the planet, you know, it's like a billion X the amount of energy needed from what the sun is given. So we're even in their BS way of looking at things. Where's all this energy coming from? It's because God created the system to be self sufficient. God created the system to work through these cavitation principles in which thing collapses to a center and then boom, from that center there's extra energy.
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David Lee Corbo
Chris, have we like, did we used to have a better grasp on this sort of thing and like we've moved away from it?
- [47:33]
Chris Gardner
Absolutely.
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David Lee Corbo
And I'm assuming that that was by design.
- [47:38]
Chris Gardner
Yeah, yeah. I think at the turn of the 20th century, so the 19, like early 1900s, I think the robber barons pretty much were following the, the great reset protocol of taking everything that was pretty much all the best buildings we were ever that in architecturally. Like when we look at, we say, oh, this is a work of art. This is an absolute masterpiece that can't be created to the one of them. We're told that all of those were created during the Dark ages or during a time where people were just, you know, going around with, you know, horses and carriages, fighting two front wars, you know, all these, all these narratives. We're told I am here to tell everybody that to build a cathedral as beautiful as the Notre Dame cathedral or a St. Paul's Cathedral. They are inspired. These are inspired pieces of work. I've told now, now my crew believes me like my new crew here in the Ozarks. I told Them, you come build domes and your IQ will go up. It's going to be very, very hard on you. But it's one of these things when you're always arching your back and you're always looking, you never have a right angle to deal with. It changes your consciousness. So in that and being a professional dome builder for 18 years now, I can say people don't understand. You don't have wage slaves building the cathedrals. You don't have wage slaves. You don't have, like, you have. You have these people that take credit for other people's work. And you. You guys know this. Being in media, you guys will have a banger come out, and then like a week later, you'll hear somebody else saying the same shit that you said, and they'll take credit.
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David Lee Corbo
Shout out, Ian Carroll.
- [49:32]
Topher
Shout out to my mom. She said she's consistently sending. He's like, watch this, TikTok. I'm like, I made that. I just made this video.
- [49:38]
David Lee Corbo
Unbelievable. Yeah, yeah. It happens all the time.
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Chris Gardner
So we know this to be the norm. We know that there are the creatives and then the people that steal from the creatives, and the creative people are very inspired, and they usually have a trunk line to their creator. They're usually in total jurisdiction with their creator, and they just get inspired, and they do because of the love of it. And then you have the people that steal it and then profit from it. And I think you have all these masonry guilds that are out there that are just taking. They found other people's art, they found other people's installations. They took credit for it. You know, they put their stamp of approval on it. And because, like, almost every great artist I've ever met, they're on to the next thing. By the time they finish what they've just done. Yeah, they want some credit, but their mind is already on to the next thing of, like, what they're going to do next. It's the exact opposite ethos of the masonry. Oh, we're putting our stamp on this for posterity and eternity. And this is our thing. It's because they found it. They literally found these things and these cathedrals, I'm telling you, these were not built by people that were working a 9 to 5. I was in Scotland and I went to go. I went to the Rose, the Rose Cathedral and Rosslyn Chapel. And it's a small. It's a small cathedral. Like, it's. It's really teeny. And they were telling us these BS stories. They're like, this one Pillar was crafted by a master Mason for 40 years. And I'm like, humans don't do that. That's not true. I do not buy that as somebody that manages men and manages men that have families and, like, out there in the field. Sorry, guys. No, that, that, that's. And, and we're told that they're paid a pittance for it, that they were essentially indentured servants that were doing this.
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David Lee Corbo
Well, that's how you know that it's, it's true. Because it sounds so untrue.
- [51:52]
Topher
Sounds so fake.
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David Lee Corbo
Exactly how you know that it's true? Well, that's the thing, right? That's the trick is, like, if you tell somebody a thing that is so untrue that it strikes you as profound, well, then there's. It's kind of this gotcha moment where you go, like, wow.
- [52:05]
Topher
Well, that's. Yeah. I mean, you could, you could. Soy face or you could. Like we were talking with Matt yesterday about why I, I've always felt, I don't know, just like a deep misconnection to what I'm learning in school. Because I'm like, oh, yeah, this shit.
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David Lee Corbo
Just doesn't seem real, doesn't resonate.
- [52:23]
Topher
I don't have any factual basis. Like, you know, I'm a kid, I'm 16 years old, but I'm just like, I'm not going to pay attention.
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David Lee Corbo
I did the same thing with history class. I said, no. This feels incredibly false.
- [52:34]
Topher
Can't tell you what it is, but it's not right.
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David Lee Corbo
You know, talking about all this, though, you know, from the flow of energy to the resilience of these structures and all sorts of things and the beauty of what was supposedly created in the Dark Ages, it seems like what Chris is saying is true. There was a much deeper grasp of something more profound when it came to not only building structures, but the flow of energy. And that makes this whole little season thing. No, no, no, no, no. The transition into this, like, minimalist architecture that, that's been plaguing everything. It's like you can walk through the nefarious. Yeah, very nefarious. Right. Like, you could walk through the city and you'll see, you know, that what they're holding up as they're trying to convince you this is a profound piece of art, and you go, dog, that's a cube. That's not a profound piece of art. Or, or even, even in the art world, where instead of having all of this intricate geometry that emulates nature. Right. I, I, I used to say in my My grand wisdom, I don't know.
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Topher
If you know that this is how we got Hitler. Hitler was doing, like, really good art. Well, and people, I guess the fad at the time were like, we want, like, you know, impressionists. We want abstract stuff. And he was like, I'm gonna draw this building. This thing is beautiful. Nah. And he's like, you know what? We're gonna. Well, that's like, so making camps.
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David Lee Corbo
I think that anybody can. Can see this. It's like the greatest works of art, or what we regard as the greatest works of art historically, seems to be man inspired by God's creation and. And doing his best to emulate it, to mirror it back in some way, shape, or form. And we've gotten so far from that in architecture and in art, where now we're. We're putting, you know, there's like, that, you know, famous trope of the banana and the wall at the art museum in, like, L. A or something like that. And it's. It's a duct tape banana. And people are stopping by and they're gasping and they're taking photos. How profound, right? And it's like, this required no skill, no discipline, no time, no sacrifice, no effort. And. And this is. We're now like, oh, I don't know. Lying. Lying to ourselves, lying to each other.
- [54:44]
Topher
Let me ask Chris. So the guys that. Because I see what you're. You're responsible for the domes at Bart Bertaria, right?
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Chris Gardner
Mm.
- [54:53]
Topher
Okay. So you're just, like, taking dudes, though, that come to Bear Terrier. They're not necessarily domes, dome builders. And you're, like, training them how to do this thing.
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Chris Gardner
I recruit people. I'm always. Ever since my football days, I'm a recruiter. So I have. I have. I have quite a few people that reach out to me through my podcast that, like, want mentorship or they want a direction in life. And depending on who they are and how I interact with them, like, how good our, you know, flow is and things like that, I will, like, invite them into the fold or not. You know, it's. It's just. It's a resonance thing. And I know what I'm looking for. Like, I'm a very. I have very, very high standards. Like, I'm not an easy person to deal with on a. On a professional level if. If you're working for me because I'm going to push you to be better, and you're not going to work for me if you're just a wage slave. Like, I hate wage slaves. Like, people People. And I. And I'm okay with this about my. Myself. I've never been a wage slave. I was, like, given very, very high corporate opportunities at age 17 and 19, you know, and I saw the folly of that world. I was actually given, like, insider baseball at age 17 when I was a senior in high school about how the whole corporate thing works, like, from the horse's mouth. So I was like, oh, okay, I'm not ever going to be that. I cannot deal with people that just work for money. Like, they're not my friends. They're not going to work for me. Now, that doesn't say I don't pay my guys. But you. Like, if. When I'm recruiting people, they have to show a propensity to want to know more. They want to know. They want to know. They want to get the juice, they want the gravy. Like. Like, they. They have to have it as like, a part of their. Like, oh, my God. Like, because, like, you know in the movie Fight Club, when the guys just start showing up on the. On. On the porch and. And Tyler Duran's like, get out of here. Like, you're. You're worthless. Like, why are you even here? And the guys that would stay were the guys. Those are the guys. Because they're not there to be pat on the back. They're not there because of. Oh, they're gonna receive some reward. They're there because of the ethos. And I'm kind of like, that. I. I don't want. I don't want people that just are there for the check.
- [57:42]
Topher
I think that's how I got here, man. It's like, I used to work for the mta. And you start off. I mean, well, this is everything that I've worked for, like, construction. After Hurricane Sandy, I was just a dude that was like, I was on my stomach cleaning out the crawl spaces of the crap that. In the house. And then eventually you see the carpenter and he's building a staircase. So I, like, sit next to him. I'll chat him up a little bit. I'll learn his. And then I'm learning, you know, eventually learn how to build the whole house. And in the mta, the same thing. It's like, I'm building the tracks, but how long am I going to swing a hammer, a sledgehammer for these dudes will be there? I mean, it's. It's crazy. It was like. It got me to the point of I was becoming insane because I was surrounded by these people where I'm like, so you're just gonna do this? I'm like, but there's a specialist right here. And they'll. They're. They're mad at the specialist because they make more money. But it was not about the money. I'm like, this guy's operating machinery where we're putting in, like, it's called CWR. So it's. Geez, how long was that? 390ft of continuously welded rail. And he's. And he's operating this machine where you're picking it up and you're sliding it into place and all that. I'm like, or you could be the guy who's clipping up behind him, you know? So I'm like, I'm following this dude. I'm like, what are you doing with this? And then I get that position. And then eventually I'm like, you know what? I want to learn how to drive the tractor, trail the guy who's bringing us the material. So then I did that, and I'm like, fuck that. This is. This is boring. Like, you realize that there is a cap also at this limit of. It was like, well, this is how much you can make. And if you want to do more. And it's not about money either, but it's like, if you want to do more, then you've got to give us more time. And I'm like, no, no, no. It's like, because now that's my time, and now I can't do anything else with this. I can't build.
- [59:22]
David Lee Corbo
I had to do more in order to not, like, die. Like, I actually had a big. Not a falling out, but my uncle was a bit of a mentor to me before he passed away, and I. I've had more jobs also.
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Topher
Sorry for cursing. This is a Christian.
- [59:38]
David Lee Corbo
Don't do it anymore.
- [59:39]
Topher
All right?
- [59:40]
David Lee Corbo
Don't do it anymore.
- [59:41]
Topher
We won't do that.
- [59:42]
David Lee Corbo
This show is built out of.
- [59:44]
Topher
All right, Put it away.
- [59:44]
David Lee Corbo
Okay.
- [59:45]
Topher
All right.
- [59:45]
David Lee Corbo
We're not gonna do it anymore.
- [59:46]
Topher
We're done.
- [59:48]
David Lee Corbo
My uncle, God rest his soul, he. He. He got me into welding. I've had more jobs than pretty much anybody I. I've ever known, because I would. I would eventually get to this point where I'm like, what am I doing? What is this? This is killing my soul. Now, my uncle got me into welding, and I was reluctant to do it, but he got me out of a pinch. I was in a bad spot, and he offered me a job, and I was a fool not to take it, so I took it, and. And I started podcasting around the same time, and he heard an episode of mine. He wanted to support me. My uncle helped a bunch of fabrication shops get started in New Jersey. He heard me say that what I was doing was soul crushing. It was, it was. I felt like it was killing my soul. And, and he, you know, I have a lot of respect for him. And, and like I said, it was a mentor relationship there. And he was pretty hurt by me saying that. And, and I, I, I just couldn't express to him. He didn't understand. It was like you had your hands on the, on the machinations that built all this. I am rinsing and repeating in a little cubicle by myself for nine hours a day, and I'm getting paid, you know, minimum wage to do it, and it, and it sucks. And then I found that I didn't hate welding. I got into a shop one day where they were new. This wasn't a corporate shop. They let me do everything. So I learned the plasma cutting table. I learned the brake press. I learned the lathe. I learned the, the drill press. I learned, you know, tig and mig. And I was able to get my hands on every single piece. And I, I became hugely adept at that. And, and I actually loved it. I mean, it still wasn't what I felt like I, I was meant to be doing. But there's some people that are okay with that. You can put them in a little cubicle. I don't know if they're actually okay with it.
- [61:33]
Topher
It's, It's a, It's a, it's something I think about all the time, because, like, my dad, one of the best people I know, but, like, he was. He worked in the post office, real happy doing that until he retired. He's a happy dude. But I'm just kind of like. For me, I'm like, there's like, I, I, I can't.
- [61:50]
David Lee Corbo
It's like an issue, dude. I've had 20, I think, like, 20. Who's gonna deliver the mail? Who's gonna deliver them? No, he's right.
- [61:56]
Topher
Owen would lose his. If no one's delivering the mail, I.
- [61:58]
David Lee Corbo
Mean, yeah, I get it. He's right. We need people like that. But then there's some people are just geared differently. I've walked out of over 20 jobs. I've just, I've gotten to the point where I've gone, what am I doing here? What is this place? And I'm. And I'll just leave. I'll just walk out into the sun and, and, you know, enjoy the weather.
- [62:16]
Topher
It's crazy. I like it though.
- [62:17]
David Lee Corbo
But it's, it's like, you know, some people and we need those people. I'm not saying that you suck if you're not, you know, it's like, I understand the whole wage leaving thing, but who is going to deliver the mail? Somebody's got to do it. You know what I mean? But it's not me, dude. There's something else. It drives me insane.
- [62:36]
Chris Gardner
Yeah, well, it's kind of cool. This kind of runs into like another love of my life is I. I know you guys are, are primarily Christian and all that. As am I.
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David Lee Corbo
It's a Christian show.
- [62:49]
Chris Gardner
Yes. And so. But there's something like in scouting you go into profiling and when you profile different personality types and all the different things, there are very specific patterns that emerge. Like you will have people that want no responsibility and those types of people that want no responsibility. Those are the types of people that just want the monotonous thing because they know, they know that they can do it and there's not much variance. They actually find safety in the variance. And then, then you have other personality types that are much more, I guess you would say, like the athletes that we were talking about earlier, like people that have been put in high stakes situations when you. Like, at one point in my career, I had eight CEOs as like my. In my book of clients. And the one thing that all these CEOs shared, and some of them were women, some of them were mentioned, the one thing that they all shared was they all were procrastinators. And the main reason why they procrastinated was because they needed stress as a motivator.
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Topher
I feel like that's me. That's not good. That's what I do on purpose.
- [64:07]
David Lee Corbo
Not good. Yeah, dude. Honestly, like, Chris, what you don't understand is, remember today we started a little bit late because of like a tech issue. Yeah, it was a genuine issue. But even if it's not, top will find a thing to do until. Right up until the line. Yeah.
- [64:22]
Topher
Right before I let my chickens, like I let the chicken coop get dirty. Because I'm like, I could clean it right now, but I'm like, I'm gonna. I want it.
- [64:28]
David Lee Corbo
I need a psychotic.
- [64:29]
Chris Gardner
No, no, it's the stress. Because you don't understand. We have all these, our endocrine system. Because think about it. If you were pitching at a high level and you're there on the mound, your subconscious is picking up all these cues, right? And that's fight or flight. Right. And this causes some people can hyper focus. And what you find is the high performers need stress to hyper fork to hyper focus. So you'll find that they'll get bored. Like a lot of kids that. You know, in my day, I'm 49, I would have been diagnosed as ADD or ADHD because what would occur is I would just lose my attention because things were so boring in school. But I was an excellent athlete and I was like, I had a decently high iq, but they couldn't keep my attention. So I was bored as f. And so I just like, whatever. Those types are usually what become your CEOs because they're the ones that push boundaries. They're the ones that are looking at the horizon and seeing if, like, the Mongols are coming. They're the ones. They're the ones that are at the tip of the spear because they're okay. They actually invite stress. And that is like maybe 15% of the male population.
- [65:59]
David Lee Corbo
That's really interesting because. So I pursued mixed martial arts for a really long time, and every single time it was anxiety. Driving to the gym to go fight other dudes was anxiety every time. And I remember really early in my experiences there, I had to, like, speak out loud to myself in the car about like, you know, let's go. You're going to. You're going to. Even though it's. All the alarms are going off and I. And I, on some level, don't want to do this thing. I need to do this.
- [66:28]
Topher
You want to know how psychotic it is with me? Because now that you're saying that, I'm just even thinking about my pitching career. As a young kid, I wasn't even aware of this, but, like, in college, it's not that I would intentionally go behind on account, but I'd be like, my Dad's like, you're 20 on everybody. Like, why do you start. Start off with strike one. And I'm just like, it can't. Simply can't. Like, I threw very hard, was wild, but like, operated better under that. Like, you know, two zero. Now your. Your margin of error is. Is obviously much less. So you're gonna have to really, like, like, really dial it in. And I'm like. He's like, you're two. And on everybody, you're wasting your pitch count. And I'm just like, it is what it is, man.
- [67:07]
David Lee Corbo
This is the worst job that I had in welding was one where, like, when I came in, they were like, guess what? There's a grinding room. You're not Even gonna have to grind your, your, your product and clean it up. Like somebody else is gonna do that for you. And initially I walked in and I was like, oh, that sounds cool. There's just a bunch of dudes with like face masks in a room, just grinding, covered in grinding dust all day. I just weld. I send my off to them. Worst thing ever. Worst thing ever. Because there was no variation. There was nothing. I didn't even put another tool in my hand. But the welding torch and the wire, like, that was it. It's like you need. The more I found, for me, the more stimuli, the better.
- [67:43]
Chris Gardner
Yes.
- [67:44]
David Lee Corbo
Which is why we do these things. We do Bohemian Grove. And it's like on paper, it's a nightmare. On paper, it's a, it's a, it's. Why would you ever put yourself through that thing? And when you get there, there are 100 moving parts. You're in a room that's loud, that's chaotic, and you are responsible for all of it. There's a bunch of different performers coming on. There's audience members, there's drinks being served. There's this, there's that. You got to get to the next thing. They've got to get on stage at this time and. But we just keep doing it.
- [68:11]
Topher
I kind of like it.
- [68:12]
David Lee Corbo
Yeah. Yeah. I feel like I'm not dying.
- [68:15]
Chris Gardner
Yeah.
- [68:15]
David Lee Corbo
While I feel like I'm dying.
- [68:17]
Chris Gardner
So you guys know this then? Also, the best athletes are, are multi sport athletes. And it's because there's something called indirect learning. And it's the most effective way of learning. So what I noticed with all these CEOs that I had in my book, and then also, like, now that I know lots of entrepreneurs that have their own companies, they're all what you would call renaissance people. They all have multifaceted things. And I can count, like, I mean, it's, it's. I can never say 100% of the time, the people that don't want responsibility and want, say, the state or want everything to be provided for them, they're also the people that don't have multiple interests. Like, the torture of being an entrepreneur is almost like the torture of being a multi sport athlete. You're exposed to so much different stimuli all the time that it can't help but seep into making you a better person because you're multi dimensional.
- [69:25]
David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
- [69:26]
Topher
Can I ask you a question? It's not, not personal, but more like a business question. You have multiple businesses and you are an entrepreneur who it seems that you have obviously been on the same path that I'm on and gotten past it and been successful, successful at it. But is, is delegation an issue with you? Is, was that something that you struggled with initially or were you able to do that? Because with my stuff, it's hard for me to let go. Let go and have other people do the things when I'm like, it's got to be done to a certain way. You know what I mean?
- [70:03]
Chris Gardner
I think that's a function of maturity, I think. How old are you? 33, something like that?
- [70:08]
Topher
30. 36, I think. 36, yeah. I'm new to this, the entrepreneurial thing.
- [70:16]
Chris Gardner
So right, right around your age, I was exposed to this, this profiling system that showed me that I need to give orders, like, I need to delegate. In fact, that's the way I'm most, the most effective. Because I'm actually an idea person. I have so many ideas and I can see the whole picture. I have a holotropic mind that I can like, okay, this is what it is. And I know what I want now. I'm not never going to be the great accountant. I'm never going to be the great bookkeeper. I'm never going to be like the perfect draft artist. I'm never going to be this, that, or the other. And in fact, I don't even have the desire to do that. But the overall vision, which is what the CEO is, which is what the entrepreneur really is, they're not really supposed to be the grunt. They're not supposed to be what I call the heavy for that long. You're the heavy initially to get the momentum going. And then once you get the momentum going, then you delegate. And it's up to you to constantly be communicating with your underlings and communicating with the people that are looking to you for leadership. You have to give them leadership. That's the number one thing. The number one thing that people want other than, you know, out in their extrinsic life, like their non personal life, is they want to be told what to do. They really do.
- [71:44]
Topher
I think I have that problem of like, there's like an insecurity of like, I'm gonna tell this guy what to do. Oh, this is a Christian show. But I'm gonna.
- [71:52]
David Lee Corbo
Yeah, don't do it two times. Hey, it's been 10 minutes. It's been 10 minutes. I understand you're petitioning it.
- [71:59]
Topher
I don't like, Yeah, I don't like telling people what to put it away, what to do.
- [72:03]
David Lee Corbo
Just regular what to do, put it away. What to effing do.
- [72:06]
Topher
Now you put that away.
- [72:09]
Chris Gardner
You know, that's the first rule in marketing, right?
- [72:11]
Topher
You tell I'm a bad marketer. I'm a ho.
- [72:14]
Chris Gardner
What they want. You guys are actually brilliant. Like, I've actually come to really like what you do because you have great banter, and you actually. I love your whole, like, deriding the poor people. That's brilliant. That's good. But, like, the whole thing is. Is, like, you tell people what they want. You got to understand if you are passionate, if you're authentic and, you know, balls to bones what it is that you want. There's a million people out there that need to hear your passion because they don't have an internal passion. They don't. They're looking for somebody to tell them what to be passionate about.
- [72:57]
Topher
I think that's the struggle with what, like, what we were just talking about before, where I'm like, these people that are the. The 9 to 5 section of people, like, I don't know. I go through a lot of my life.
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David Lee Corbo
They're the majority, right? He said 15%.
- [73:12]
Topher
Yeah, they've. They've got to be. But, like, you go through life and then you see them, and a lot of them are your friends, your family, great people. You love them. And, like, I've spent a lot of my time trying to talk to them, and, like, this is why you should try. And they're just like, huh? Like, they don't get it. And then after a while, I'm like, wait a second.
- [73:31]
David Lee Corbo
But.
- [73:32]
Topher
But it's. I feel like it's a little bit. I don't know. It's. It's kind of, like, messed up to think, like, these people are just not in it, but I guess they're just not. I don't know.
- [73:40]
Chris Gardner
Yeah, well, they're just here for a different purpose. Like, there's people like. Like I was telling you about, the way I was profiled psychologically is like, you're here because you have very strong feelings, and you're here to share them, right? And, like, you have enough ability to show innovation, and that will carry on and that will inspire. So that's my role. There's other people are here that are just here to be a good mom or a good. A person that's here to be a good grandpa or to be a provider in the most, like, minimalistic sense. We all have different purposes. You can never, you know, paint everybody with the same with one swath. You know, it's like all of us have these different functions Just the second that you become authentic, like when you truly know what it is that it. That you're trying to share and what you're trying to do, you got to understand there's a million people out there, at least, that want to know what that is, because that gives them direction, because they internally don't have a direction, man.
- [74:45]
David Lee Corbo
You know, that idea of the person that needs to have their hands on all these different levers and everything of a situation and, and, you know, needs that amount of stimuli, right? That stress factor. Just talking about my uncle before he. He was a guy that he built all these businesses. He was really much more than just a worker, right? And then even in his own hobby life, he was a. Like a competitive bass fisher. So he. He had all these trophies for. For bass fishing that he had won. He was a competitive shooter as well. So see, he's. This is a guy that needs a lot of stimuli. Something happened in his older age. He suffered in such a way that the. The doctor was like, hey, you just can't do these things anymore. Like, you gotta just stop. So he sold his. His boat and he stopped shooting competitively. And. And you know, he retired and. And so was only acting as a consultant. He would show up and he would give them some advice. And for. For him, it was funny too, because they would say that they're suffering. You know, these businesses that he helped develop, they would call him in and they go, hey, we're suffering in this way and that way. And just from wherever he sat in his understanding of a thing which was rather intimate because he helped build it, he would always have the simplest solution. He's like, you're not seeing what the problem is here. All you've got to do is tighten this up and tighten that up. But when. When he was in that capacity, just showing up occasionally, consulting, no longer pursuing those things, he didn't last very long, dude. It was a pretty short order that he passed away after that, you know, just illnesses just compounded and Domino affected. And before I knew it, he was not.
- [76:26]
Topher
He was not doing what he's supposed to do.
- [76:28]
David Lee Corbo
It's not doing what he's supposed to do. And it was. And you know, who knows how much validity was in what the doctor prescribed. But it's just interesting because what the doctor is telling him in order to preserve himself ends up being the thing that. That causes his early demise. I just think maybe that's why.
- [76:47]
Topher
That's why I keep my dad at work on the property. Yeah, like, you gotta.
- [76:51]
David Lee Corbo
He whips Him. I've seen him whip them before, but he seems to like it. You know, it keeps him spry. It keeps him moving fast.
- [76:58]
Topher
Topher, I want to get back onto. So we were talking about some entrepreneurial stuff, but I want to get back on to, like, the actual geometrics of the. The things, the. The domes that you're building. This also, this cube stuff was kind of interesting, if we even get to it. But can you explain to me why. Why does this star pattern work? Why does the Mandela pattern work when. Oh, yeah, on a. On a dome?
- [77:22]
Chris Gardner
And this is my. This is my favorite jam. Can you guys hear that? There's, like, some alarm coming through my speakers. Is it coming through on your side?
- [77:33]
David Lee Corbo
No, no, we don't hear anything.
- [77:34]
Chris Gardner
Huh. That's very odd. Let me see something real quick. I got a. That's where it's coming from. Sorry about that.
- [77:43]
David Lee Corbo
No, it's. We didn't even hear it. You could have just lied to us and kept it going.
- [77:46]
Topher
It's probably driving him crazy over there.
- [77:48]
Chris Gardner
Yeah, there it goes. Okay, now. Now we're free of that. So. Okay, this particular. This is, like, one of my favorite subjects because unfortunately, people, whenever they see a pentagon or a pentagram, they associate Satanism. And it's not that what occurred is the Satanists figured out, just like the ancient. Like, all the ancient people that built with sacred geometry, they figured out this thing called the incommensurate geometry. And the incommensurate geometry is like. So you guys have seen the Pyramid of Giza, right? The Great Pyramid of Giza.
- [78:27]
David Lee Corbo
Yes.
- [78:28]
Chris Gardner
If you. If you were to turn the pyramid of Giza and see one third of it one side and two thirds of it the other side, the. The triangle that. That makes is. It's the 108 angle at the top. 36. 36. So it's not like when you're looking at the pyramid dead on, it's 52 degrees when you turn it to its side, and you see one third of one side and two thirds the other side. This is the. This is the. This incommensurate geometry. And what that means is it's a fractal. You can cut it on any one of those lines, and it just keeps repeating itself. Well, the reason why this was glorified in ancient cultures was because it's the ratio of. Or it's the. It's the geometry of hydrogen to oxygen. And the geometry of hydrogen, oxygen is just another way of saying water. And we're told water is memory, right? So we're told that water has memory in it and all the rest of it. You get super dehydrated. I see you drinking that coffee f that water. No, like, if, I don't know if you've ever gotten like super dehydrated and you can't think, you know, it's because our bodies, you know, our gray matter doesn't really do much other than be an antenna. And when that antenna has a lot of water in can pick up all the information in the new sphere. The new sphere is essentially the informational field. And so you'll see I do deep tissue myofascial release. So when I get in there into the muscles, there's a layer of the fascia. The fascia is the sheathing that goes over everything. Well, they now know that the fascia, there's a water layer of structured water that goes underneath that. That is actually our nervous system. System. This is all the stuff that they told us about, you know, dendrons and dendrites and neurons and synapses and it's utter bs Those things are there, but they, they're not doing things like they say they do. It's not like a billiard ball that one knocks the other knocks the other. Because we show that we do a lot of things instantaneously. Like when you were pitching a baseball, half the guys that actually got a hit on you started their swing before the ball even left your hand. Yeah. Now how is that possible if it's only a nervous system thing? And the truth of the matter is we're moved, we're not the mover. And water is the medium that I should say structured water is the medium by which we're receiving signals from our environment. And then we're then have our locomotion to do whatever work we need to do. It's also like, you know, the best data storage thing ever. Like, when you look at the future of data storage, it's all based on we'll get into the biochar and the hypercube and all that. But it's all based essentially on this incommensurate geometry and hypercubes. So either way, you have this beautiful geometry that nature uses to kind of distribute information. And in the past they used this and they encoded it in almost every structure. Every Roman colosseum building that you see where there's like six or eight pillars, there'll be this triangular arch form that like connects them all. That's the 108. 36. 36. And so when you look at a pentagram all that is, is three of those triangles that are turned 72 degrees from each other. So that's what makes a pentagram, is just, is three of those, you know, I guess you would call it profile pictures of a pyramid just turned on each other. And the pentagon is the same thing. But if you were to just flip the triangles out, that gives you the five sided pentagon. And for, for a long time the Pentagon, the actual building that they built in the United States as the Pentagon was the largest building in the world. And they, they used that shape for a very specific purpose. It was satanic purpose. You know, it still is satanic. But what these Satanists are doing, they're kind of co opting just a power that's inherent in nature. And that power is water. I shouldn't just say water. Like, I don't want to sound like, like too much of a naturalist about this. It's that in this we're purposely not taught that we live in a fluid. Like we're taught that we breathe air.
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David Lee Corbo
This is the idea of like aether.
- [83:12]
Chris Gardner
Well, it's not just that ether is actually more subtle than the actual gases that we live in. We, when we're breathing, we're breathing mostly nitrogen, a little bit of oxygen and a little bit of carbon dioxide. Like that's what we're breathing. But it's in a medium that's a fluid. Well, that fluid has a ton of water vapor in it. That water vapor is the intelligence field. So when people use these shapes in a negative way, what they're trying to do is they're trying to amplify, they're using it like an amplifier. And when I first saw the star dome from this Japanese mathematician, I knew immediately one just the physics of how it was a tense metal structure. So unlike geodesic domes where they're just a bunch of triangles that you just stick together like Lincoln Logs, that's not a tense structure. That's just everything has a pre tension each bit of it and you fit it together like Legos and those joints fail. And so when I saw this structure I was like, I immediately was like, that's like a bridge because you pop it up like a tent and then the tension in all, in all the metal, like you've done metal fabrication when you bend the metal and then you freeze that in concrete. Now that's how all these bridges around the world are so, so resilient is because I forget what the equation is. But when you freeze the tension in metal, like a lot of the metal rope that they put as tensioning agents in bridges, when they anchor them to either shore of the river or whatever, they put them under so much tension, and then they pour the concrete around them to lock that tension in. And that distributes the tension through the bridge, the entire life of the bridge, and it makes it so much stronger. So pretensed structures are to me, like the future where you take a shape that's obviously very resilient, like a bubble, a hemisphere is very resilient. And then you freeze it in cement. And when you freeze it in cement under tension, now the entire life of the building. Have you ever heard the term tensegrity?
- [85:30]
David Lee Corbo
I've not.
- [85:32]
Chris Gardner
So tensegrity is think of tension and integrity.
- [85:36]
Topher
Okay.
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Chris Gardner
So it's exactly the way our body works. Right. So like when you're running, when your left arm goes forward, your right foot goes back. Right. And you said you were a martial artist, Right? When you're doing martial arts, it's all about working levers. So if somebody overextends, you leverage that overextension to plant them. Right. So that's tensegrity. Tensegrity is working on a counter lever principle. Like whenever something is under extension or under load, you're counter levering it. Okay, well, if you counter lever that in a perfect geometry, which the star dome gives you, because it's literally all of these incommensurate geometry triangles. That's all it is.
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David Lee Corbo
This would be the same thing that's at play that allows something as simple as like an egg balance a center block. Given the right angle, like as long as it's done the right way, the egg can actually sustain the center block despite exactly being pretty fragile in any other angle.
- [86:37]
Chris Gardner
Yeah, can you guys pull up Instagram? Because I have tons of like my bio charisma on Instagram. I have like real. I have real. I. My, my website's a dinosaur, but.
- [86:49]
Topher
Oh, give me a sec.
- [86:50]
Chris Gardner
Yeah. On Instagram I have like. We just built this 42 foot dome and our struts. You. You'll laugh. As a welder, our struts were 1 inch or excuse me, 4 inch flat bar by quarter by quarter inch flat bar. That went 66ft, man.
- [87:09]
David Lee Corbo
Wow.
- [87:10]
Chris Gardner
And then we did our overlaps and we had this huge crane lift the whole thing up. It looked like a jellyfish. And then we mounted it to the sides of this 131 foot long ring and the whole thing gained tension. I think the last video I put up there was of the actual.
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David Lee Corbo
So pulling it upward created that tensile strength well, we. Because everything starts to arch downward.
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Chris Gardner
Exactly, exactly.
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Topher
Let me ask you a question. This sounds kind of stupid, but I was reading the Bible yesterday and it says that Noah lives in. I'm Noah. Abraham was like a nomadic dude living in a tent. Do you think that the word tent. Because what you're describing when, when we say tent, like you know, you pop a tent. Yeah, like you're describing a tent that's like popped up, but it's like very strong. And I, I don't know if this, you think this, these dudes were like doing something like this and with like dome type tents or. What do you, what do you think?
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Chris Gardner
I had these cats last year at The Bear Fest 20, 24. They came to me and they were convinced that the tabernacle was, was a, a dome tent.
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David Lee Corbo
That's interesting.
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Chris Gardner
Yeah, yeah, I was really get that.
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David Lee Corbo
I forgot who we were talking to. Talking about the tabernacle being this emulation of the actual supposed dome that goes over our flat earth. The firmament that the tabernacle was a miniature but to scale reproduction of, of that very same thing. And I was like, I know, it's pretty interesting. I don't know. Okay, so here we go. We have your, your, your Instagram pulled up.
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Topher
Wow, look at this thing.
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Chris Gardner
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So go to that wire, the wiggle wire. You, you guys will enjoy the.
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Topher
This one here in the center.
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Chris Gardner
You could do. Yeah. The 42 foot diameter, pure steel, green dome. That's a tensegrity structure. Attaching our T braces right now. You can kind of see that. So that circle you see is 42ft or 131ft by 4ft tall. And each one of those metal struts, those green metal struts that you see, each one of those was 66ft long.
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David Lee Corbo
Wow.
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Chris Gardner
That ladder is going up 25ft right there. So this is like. You can see. You could see my welder was up there when we got there.
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David Lee Corbo
You would never though, like if you were trying to build, you know, let's say any kind of traditional building and it's made up of your, your common angles, you would never elect to use such a thin material to do that. I mean that would be so. But it has this.
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Topher
No, but I mean looking at this.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah. Oh yeah.
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Topher
You can tell this shit isn't going anywhere. So the, the, the concrete ring at the bottom there, that's like holding it in place and that stays there forever, right?
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Chris Gardner
And yeah, that, that, that's super adobe. So that's rammed earth construction. We Started off like the very first dome building thing I learned was flexible form rammed earth construction or super adobe. So that was nine rings of earth bags that we tamped and then we capped it with concrete that acts as our tension ring. And then that tension ring has 10 mounting points where the steel. Yeah, exactly. And we use number eight hardened steel, five, eight bolts where we go ahead and bolt and put all the tension down. We have all the overlaps. All of our geometry pickup points are pre drilled. So when the crane lifted the whole thing into place. I'm editing right now the time lapse photography. So I'm going to put a time lapse on Instagram of all this. Like the time lapse. You see the crane going up and it not being under tension. Like go to the wiggle wire one at the top, hit the.
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David Lee Corbo
It looks like it doesn't need a pretty like a substantial foundation. One that goes deep into the. How deep are you going?
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Topher
Quite inexpensive.
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David Lee Corbo
Well, it looks inexpensive, but I'm wondering about like, you know, property taxes are often based off of like what sort of a foundation you have. That's why people are really pumped about these. What would you call them, shipping container homes? Because oftentimes you can do it without a smaller footprint. Yeah. And, and, and so you're, you, you don't run into as much of a property tax issue. Is this something that you need to go like, you're not putting, do you put basements in these?
- [91:22]
Topher
I'll be honest. Dude, this thing is huge.
- [91:24]
David Lee Corbo
It is pretty big. Yeah.
- [91:25]
Chris Gardner
Yeah. That, that on the first story is 1600 square feet. So.
- [91:29]
David Lee Corbo
Oh man, look at, in comparison to him. Oh my God. Yeah, look at him. Yeah, yeah.
- [91:32]
Chris Gardner
But now you're going to see. The video is going to pan over to a geodesic dome. That geodesic dome is the 32ft in diameter. It's. It's teeny. And you can just see the difference in like one's a very male energy. Like with all the like, you know, hard, sharp energy.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
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Chris Gardner
And that's the geodesic that the, the joints are already failing on that one. That one's like three, three years old Now. I like geodesics. I think there, there's a time and place for them. But my company is built more on the stardome ethos of like, okay, we're going to put up these where they're perfectly round.
- [92:11]
David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
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Chris Gardner
Where we get a perfect spherical or hemispherical shape. Like this is just a greenhouse. Right. But I sold it to my customer by saying like, look if you ever want to convert this into a home, it will be no problem. Like, there's zero problem with taking the plastic off and then us putting ferrocement up, because ferrocement is usually the shell that I use, and ferrocement just means thin. Thin shell, concrete.
- [92:40]
David Lee Corbo
Okay.
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Chris Gardner
It's very much similar to what you were talking about with the old homes with stucco and lath. We just use a very specific form of stucco, and we smush that through multiple layers of wire mesh that create this very thin shell that's mechanically extremely strong. And then what we're doing at Barataria this year is we took it even one step further, which is like my brainchild, and that's with nylon cement, so.
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David Lee Corbo
Nylon cement?
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Chris Gardner
Yeah. Where we actually took landscaping fabric. It's also known as geotextile. We saturate that in a cement slurry, and then we drape it over that wire frame that you just saw.
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Topher
It's like paper mache.
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David Lee Corbo
And then you let it dry like that.
- [93:28]
Chris Gardner
Yeah. In every layer that you put on top of it, you gain 2x the compression strength.
- [93:37]
David Lee Corbo
Oh, wow.
- [93:39]
Chris Gardner
Because. Because the chassis of it has perfect geometry. It's just like that egg that you're talking about that can hold the cinder, block it. The shear forces, the compression forces evenly distribute.
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David Lee Corbo
So you've gotten these to the point, I imagine they're so dialed in that as far as, like, cost efficacy, you're. You're. You're doing pretty well. I mean, it seems like you. How do I say this? Well, let's ask you this. How long does it take to erect? Let's say something of the size of the one that we just watched that took 23 days. 23 days. Crazy.
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Topher
And, like, price. How is this comparable to a house? Because I don't know. What did my parents just build, like, 2,200 square feet, and it cost, like, 150.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah. And then when you. When you build a house, by the way, you watch, like, the team is immense, and, like, oftentimes, like, it's not.
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Topher
I mean, there's also, like, you know, they're doing, like, full kitchens inside.
- [94:37]
David Lee Corbo
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, as far as, like, labor and then materials and time. I mean, time you're obviously crushing on.
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Chris Gardner
Well, my. My. My model will be. Is. I'm going to license this because this is sort of my brainchild. Like, the combination of the. The super Adobe with the. With the geotextile with the Japanese star dome. It's one big hybrid structure, as far as I know. Nobody else is doing it. Like, I'm doing it. Like, you have other dome builders, but a lot of them, they use different mediums, which I really like, but their domes are really small. My. My private homes, if you look on the Instagram thing, like, there's a. There's some really great Viking arch forms and other things on there that we've done that are very pretty. I can't say I like the aesthetic of big domes. Unless, like, the green dome is like. Is one thing. Right. But, like. Yeah, like, that dome that you see.
- [95:39]
David Lee Corbo
Oh, that's pretty cool.
- [95:40]
Chris Gardner
With the foam on it. Like, we're actually covering that in two weeks. So. So this particular dome, there's so many crazy hidden geometries that are in it. And on the front side of it, it has this massive Viking entryway. Like, and. Yeah, it's. We do the vaulted entryways. We do the. The nice buttresses. We do the eyebrows. The vaulted.
- [96:08]
David Lee Corbo
This is gonna sound probably like a stupid question, but give me some time.
- [96:12]
Topher
And I'll ask you a few more club.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah. So. So given the energetic implications of the design design and the way that it potentially allows it to flow more effectively than these other, you know, where it's crashing into flat surfaces and everything, given the feng shui of it all, I wonder if people who. It would seem you would have an overlap in. In buyers who are also spiritually aware. And given that overlap, I'm wondering if you've gotten any feedback from these individuals about anything worth mentioning, the spiritual implications or the energetic implications about living in the home and practicing whatever it is that they're practicing.
- [96:55]
Chris Gardner
So I have to say, when you're a dome builder, your clients turn out to be really cool. That's one reason why I could never be a normal contractor. Because you have to deal with a lot of B.S.
- [97:09]
Topher
Normies.
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Chris Gardner
Yeah. And so I'm not dealing with normal people at all. These are abnormal people. So that. That. That one dome that you were just looking at that had the yellow spray foam on it, my client, she was taking these pictures because we just poured this big porch for her, and she was taking pictures at night, and she noticed that. That there was this purple line.
- [97:34]
Topher
Look at that archway, dude.
- [97:35]
David Lee Corbo
That's beautiful.
- [97:36]
Chris Gardner
Right through that. So she was, like. Right there, she was taking a picture of that, and there was this glowing purple light. And so we live in tornado alley here, and we had. I don't know. In three weeks, we had four severe tornado warnings. Like, we were in the track to get hit, and we never. We. It Never came to us. And there's. Have you guys ever heard of the term orgone or orgone accumulators?
- [98:06]
David Lee Corbo
Yeah, yeah, I have. Yeah.
- [98:08]
Chris Gardner
Yeah. So, like, if. If you're.
- [98:10]
Topher
You know, Topher, this entryway kind of like, resembles a vagina.
- [98:14]
Chris Gardner
Yeah.
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David Lee Corbo
Make it look like a vagina.
- [98:17]
Chris Gardner
Well, a Vesica Pisces looks like a vagina. That's all it is. It's a Vesica Pisces.
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Topher
It has, like, the entrance to, like, the. And then it even has, like, the lips to it, but something beautiful.
- [98:26]
David Lee Corbo
Tell me the truth. How many. How. What percentage of your clientele is white women?
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Topher
100%.
- [98:36]
David Lee Corbo
Come through my yoni entryway.
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Topher
Sorry. Please continue.
- [98:40]
Chris Gardner
I mean, energetically, a hemisphere is feminine where a beehive is masculine.
- [98:45]
David Lee Corbo
Okay.
- [98:46]
Chris Gardner
And so every. Every beehive dome I built has been for male clients. And 80% of the. The hemispherical domes I've built are for women.
- [98:59]
David Lee Corbo
And the remaining 20% was just husbands.
- [99:02]
Chris Gardner
Other men.
- [99:04]
David Lee Corbo
Okay.
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Chris Gardner
No, no, no, no. It's just. I'm not saying it's only for men or only for women. I'm just saying, like, there's a resonant pattern. Like, we've been talking about resonant patterns.
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David Lee Corbo
And do you think that. That just these are people that are knowledgeable about that, or does this thing resonate with them?
- [99:17]
Topher
Oh, damn. So this lady has, like, a bunch of domes. Like, those are her rooms. Huh. Like, she'll just go out to another.
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Chris Gardner
Like I mentioned, like, this. This complex. There's a tridome complex. And so each one of the dome. Well, the two smaller domes are bedrooms with bathrooms. And then the big dome that we were just in, that's the. That's going to be the living room, office, and kitchen. I like that.
- [99:41]
David Lee Corbo
That's so much cooler than, like, here's a big box. Everything is in the big box.
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Chris Gardner
Right? And then that gives her a courtyard because another thing I build are rocket mass heaters. And so I'm building her an outdoor hot tub area that's powered by wood fire because we live in the woods, and it's a. Have you guys ever heard the term thermosyphon?
- [100:01]
David Lee Corbo
I've not.
- [100:01]
Chris Gardner
No.
- [100:02]
Topher
You've said a lot of things that I don't know what they.
- [100:04]
David Lee Corbo
Oh, I've just been nodding. Yeah. Doing a lot of nodding. Like, yeah, dude, crushing.
- [100:07]
Topher
We totally know.
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Chris Gardner
Yeah. Thermosyphons are a really cool technology where you can, like, freely distribute that heat. Yeah, yeah. So, like, this whole dome in and of itself is like, you know, it's mainly masonry. We put the foam on to insulate the top of it. But we have a rocket mass heater in it that's going to heat, heat and cool. Like with the rocket mass heater we get thermal differential where we can generate electricity. But this, this is like a showcase, you know, spot. Like this is going to be a triplex. That's her private home, her and her husband's private home. And yeah, like we're going to crazy.
- [100:49]
Topher
Chris, I've got a, I've got a. My. Well, I have a major in fire protection and management. I'm looking at this thing, I'm like, I don't think this thing sets on fire. No, I don't think this thing is very flammable.
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David Lee Corbo
It doesn't even have, doesn't look flammable.
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Chris Gardner
No. In the future I'm going to actually instead of using closed cell foam, I'm going to use air crete. I'm going to impregnate the air crete with biochar. That's my other company I have. And the biochar essentially fireproofs it and it EMF proofs it, it makes it so no EMFs can get to you inside.
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David Lee Corbo
Chris, you ever wonder like who you're gonna make mad doing this? Seems like a lot of like, you know, a lot of the industry would be like, hey, it doesn't like shit that lasts a long time, doesn't set on fire, doesn't allow EMF waves to give you ass cancer, like all sorts of things like that.
- [101:42]
Chris Gardner
I'm not in trouble because there's only like three people in the world that want them.
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David Lee Corbo
All right? Now I gotta, I gotta ask you this then. You know, given your, your, your, you're Christian bent, you know, you're leaning towards Christianity and there's obviously a real spiritual clientele that's going to be interested in this sort of thing having. I'm not asking you to out your, your clientele, Chris, but is there anybody that's got, you got like who am I building a dome for? What is this person? What is this person about?
- [102:11]
Topher
You should probably, I mean I would be, I'll be curious to see what would happen if you built these type of geometric type domes on like a space wolf ranch, right?
- [102:20]
David Lee Corbo
Oh, oh, like a high strangeness, thin veil area that seems.
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Chris Gardner
Well, speaking of which, that dome was built very close to a portal, like an actual like geomance portal. Like I think, I think the portal like brought, brought that dome structure to it. Yeah. Like I'm not One of these people that believes that, like, what is it called? Dousing is evil. I don't think dousing is evil.
- [102:50]
David Lee Corbo
Oh, that's where you're.
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Chris Gardner
Yeah, yeah.
- [102:52]
David Lee Corbo
Searching for water.
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Chris Gardner
As a builder, I need to know where the groundwater is. I learned how to douse just because I build. And I can't have a flowing water go underneath a structure. You just don't do that. So I.
- [103:12]
David Lee Corbo
Well, how deep can that flowing water be?
- [103:16]
Chris Gardner
You're in Florida. Like, you pretty much have water underneath everything.
- [103:20]
David Lee Corbo
Underneath everything. Yeah.
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Chris Gardner
There's a reason why Florida has this transience to it. And the reason. One of the reasons why is the geology there is essentially you're just on a floating piece of coral. That's the geology of Florida. And so it attracts transience. It doesn't attract permanence.
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David Lee Corbo
There is a lot of trans in this area, honestly, which is really weird.
- [103:45]
Topher
Tell them about Matt.
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David Lee Corbo
Yeah, we have to tell you. I know Matthew's in the chat and he's very upset if we don't tell you, but we're working. A documentary right now is a gentleman by the name of Joe Gilberti, who unfortunately was just sentenced to 15 years in prison. That's a little bit of an update for you guys who have been following along. But to make a long story short, he discovered what seems to be like primary waters about 1500ft beneath a property that he has a parcel of here in Florida. And. And it's alkaline. I don't know if I'm allowed to.
- [104:15]
Topher
Say that because you're allowed to say. We just can't say that it. It does anything.
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David Lee Corbo
All right. Yeah. So it's alkaline water, and it's high in minerals and all sorts of different crazy things, and it's. And it's potentially enough to service, at the minimum, all of South Florida. They did a survey. They dropped a camera down there. And the language that the guy used was, this is an ocean. He tried to get it to the people's attention. He tried to say, we should be using this. Now, apparently there's a company called Mosaic Agriculture who has access to this water not too far from where this well was. I think, you know, Nestle probably isn't pumped about it because they have, you know, their contracts over the wells, I mean, the springs that exist. And so the more this guy tried to ring the bell about it, the more they said, hey, you know, why don't we throw him in a cage.
- [105:01]
Topher
Put him in jail, let's put him.
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David Lee Corbo
In a cage, let's strip Them naked. Let's spray him with water. He's been there for, I think about two years now. And unfortunately he was just sentenced about a week ago to. To 15 years. So we're working on this documentary. The, the individual who found it many generations ago was a freemason, interestingly enough, or at least was alleged to be by the people who we spoke to when we were recording.
- [105:25]
Topher
We had asked his son when we went there, we said, why that spot? Because it's like it's a 15 minute drive on his own property and it's not convenient to where his house is. So like, why would your dad build a well here if the house was always quite far away? And he said his dad was using dousing rods.
- [105:42]
David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
- [105:42]
Topher
Walked to one of the higher, the higher parts of the property. They drilled down 600ft.
- [105:48]
David Lee Corbo
600? Yep.
- [105:49]
Topher
Which is twice as. As deep as you need to go for a general well in Florida. Hit bedrock, continued.
- [105:55]
David Lee Corbo
Or like limestone, whatever it is. Yeah, limestone, yeah.
- [105:57]
Topher
He's like, keep drilling down. They went down 15, 8ft or something like that. And this is where they find this well. But the guy is using dowsing rods to locate this specific area to tap into this. This well that apparently extends to like, I don't know, Alabama.
- [106:12]
David Lee Corbo
That's the, the idea is that it's like part of the aqueducts that flow from like, Alabama, Georgia. Aquifers. Yeah. What the hell is an aqueduct? Aquifers. Yeah. That come from that far up north. And you know, we are in central Florida here. So I, I don't know. It's a weird thing that we've, we've stepped in and I'm. I'll tell you the truth. I am. It's quite unfortunate that this is such a dire situation and it's such an important topic. And there's an individual and his family who are suffering a great deal because of the implications of this water. And who they have is a couple of retards in old leather chairs to talk about it. We're trying to do what we can to, you know, to bring attention to it. We're trying to do a documentary. We've done. We've never done a documentary before, but right now we're the loudest people that these folks have. Really, this needs to get out to somebody who's bigger than us, but we're doing what we can right now. But yeah, it's just interesting because dowsing rods are also called divination rods.
- [107:11]
Chris Gardner
Right.
- [107:12]
David Lee Corbo
Interchangeable terminology there Sounds, sounds spooky, but maybe not. Maybe it's just how you find.
- [107:18]
Chris Gardner
No, they can be used for extremely practical purposes. And it's not demons telling you anything. It's literally very simple science.
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David Lee Corbo
I like that. Your would be like, here's the water.
- [107:29]
Chris Gardner
No, because that's the divination part of it. That's what I'm saying. Things get overlapped and people using. It's like what I was talking about with the pentagram. People will look at the pentagram and say, oh, that's Satanic. I'm like, no, it's powerful and it's used by Satanists. Divination rods aren't just divination rods. Divination rods are also dousing rods. They will tell you where water is. They will tell you where electricity is. They will tell you where fault lines are. They will tell you where dragon paths are. They will tell you all.
- [108:00]
David Lee Corbo
I'm sorry, what? Wait a second.
- [108:02]
Topher
How dare you? What's a dragon?
- [108:04]
David Lee Corbo
What's a dragon path?
- [108:05]
Chris Gardner
A dragon path is when you have a line of water that crosses over a fault line. It creates this spiral. And usually in those spirals, it's like a nexus zone where you get, like, you know, yeti sightings, you get ball lightning, you get all these weird phenomenon. And it's essentially where you have geomantic stress. You have an area that's more liminal, and you have just energy that can flow from, like, let's just say, to make it simple, the. The lower realms to the upper realms more easy. It's like the veil. Yeah.
- [108:44]
David Lee Corbo
That's interesting. That's why you said we often have that discussion where it's like, people will describe a very strange situation, maybe passing through what they perceive as a portal, and it's usually accompanied with streams running. I had crossed over a stream. So it's like this flow of energy and water as a conductor, and. And. And how these things interplay will amplify whatever. Whatever high strangeness already exists in an area.
- [109:11]
Topher
You really. You really make me like Owen Benjamin even more. Because it's like he found this guy, and not only did he find you, but then he's like, we're gonna. We're gonna start building these.
- [109:18]
David Lee Corbo
These domes.
- [109:19]
Topher
We need to build a damn dome.
- [109:20]
David Lee Corbo
We need to build a dome? Yeah.
- [109:21]
Topher
Out here.
- [109:22]
David Lee Corbo
Well, I've been looking at plots of land, and I'm like, what if I just bought a plot of land and then, like, there's nothing on it, but I'm like, maybe we could do something cool on it. Maybe we could build. But, you know, you booked last Night. And it, and, and it was like, oh, 9:30 in the morning, we're gonna do something. So there wasn't a lot of prep time. Like, I wonder what we're gonna talk about. Oh, cool. He makes like domes and everything. That's fascinating. This is one of my favorite conversations, like in the past month.
- [109:44]
Chris Gardner
Yeah, yeah.
- [109:44]
David Lee Corbo
This is awesome. Thank you, dude.
- [109:46]
Chris Gardner
Yeah, if you're welcome. If you guys ever want me to talk a little bit about primary water, that's like something I'm very, very versed in. Where I live in Costa Rica, they have like one of the seven primary water spots in the entire world. And I actually got to meet the, the gentleman that coined the term primary water when he surveyed the Diamante waterfall in the valley that I lived in. So I have extensive knowledge, hydrology knowledge of that stuff. And being a South Floridian and understanding the aquifer system and things like that, that's something that I could actually inform you on a very high level.
- [110:29]
David Lee Corbo
That would be a conversation certainly worth having.
- [110:32]
Topher
I think, honestly, wherever you're at, when we're finalizing or getting this documentary tied up, I'd love to like go out to you and do an interview about. Oh, that would be great because yeah, we'd obviously need some expertise. We're just out there. We had some testing. Well, someone else had some testing done on the water when we were out there. So we figured out that the deuterium levels weren't as low as we. That the guy was looking for.
- [110:56]
David Lee Corbo
Yeah, there was this idea that it may be deuterium depleted water, which. Which apparently has some significance when it comes to medicinal purposes. I'm not making that claim. YouTube, but. But that's not the case. But still, just the idea that it would be able to, you know, conservatively service South Florida and, and then, you.
- [111:14]
Topher
Know, it's also high in minerals, it's also alkaline. So it's like, you know, this water is still special in its own way, but I don't really know much about water.
- [111:21]
David Lee Corbo
I don't know anything about water.
- [111:24]
Topher
Yeah, I drink it sometimes.
- [111:26]
Chris Gardner
Are you guys friendly with Dr. Narco Longo?
- [111:30]
David Lee Corbo
Yeah. Yeah, we are. We had him on the show before and he's had some very fascinating things to say about Florida and how it could even potentially have been the Garden of Eden. And you know, then you have this whole water situation down here and it's like Florida just continues. It's the, it's the state that keeps on giving when it comes to strange. Strangeness.
- [111:49]
Topher
Yeah.
- [111:50]
Chris Gardner
Yes. Yeah, yeah. It is a very liminal space because there's so much quartz sand and coral and all the rest of it. But the one thing that he brings up a lot is how many fresh water springs are in central and north Florida. And he's very good at documenting, like, just like the, like, there's more natural freshwater springs in north Florida than anywhere else in the world.
- [112:18]
David Lee Corbo
Yeah, yeah. That's why the, The. The water situation is very strange. I came previously from the Tampa Bay area and not too far from. From Narco. Longo is kind of like. Well, he was up there doing research at a restaurant. Interestingly enough, like, right down the street from me, there was an ancient stone that.
- [112:37]
Topher
That was like an anchor.
- [112:39]
David Lee Corbo
He thought, well, it wasn't just an anchor. The, the stone anchors. I saw them personally. Like, I was able to visit the places that he was showing off on his. On his channel. But this stone was one where it seemed like they may have been doing ritual sacrifices on. And it like, it was so old, they pulled it from the water and then this restaurant kind of like unwittingly just put it on their lawn. And so it's like right there in the parking lot and, and you could see there's a face carved into it. And he was talking about like, the, the dating on the stone, like, totally changes. When we thought people were supposed to have inhabited the Americas, you know, in one way or the other, far beyond my, my grasp intellectually. I just went, ooh, that's a pretty cool stone. But the water situation in, in. In at least my area back in. In Port Richey, which is, you know, Tampa adjacent to it, was terrible. The water itself, like from the tap was terrible.
- [113:33]
Topher
Yeah, yeah.
- [113:34]
David Lee Corbo
And I just kind of assumed that moving to a place that had more natural springs than anywhere in the world, you would have a pretty good water situation going on. Not the case. Not at least What. What the. What the public is getting access to.
- [113:45]
Chris Gardner
Well, you. The big problem when you have such a porous mantle, which is what you have in Florida is, and you have a lot of people, is you have a lot of poop. You have to deal with.
- [113:55]
David Lee Corbo
With. Yeah, a lot of poop.
- [113:57]
Chris Gardner
And when I, When I lived in South Florida, I bet you it's very similar to where you were near Tampa is in South Florida. I left south Florida in 2006. I had a home in Boynton Beach, Florida, and they were. The. The county was actively bragging that they were pumping sewage into the aquifer because they're. Because there was drought for so long that they had this brilliant idea that, okay, we're going to offset the volume of water that's been dropping in our aquifer by just pumping poop into it. If we do that, don't worry about it. The poop is heavy. It will sink. Don't you worry about it. Don't even worry about it.
- [114:36]
David Lee Corbo
Sometimes it floats.
- [114:37]
Chris Gardner
We have enough chlorine to take care of it. Like, they were literally like. Like, this is how we're going to solve our drought condition.
- [114:44]
David Lee Corbo
That this is how we're going to destroy one of the most remarkable natural resources on the planet. We're gonna do it.
- [114:51]
Chris Gardner
There is an active. Active. I mean, since the early 1900s, maybe even before, there has been an active strategy to destroy the world's water. Yeah, fresh water, sweet water. To destroy it.
- [115:06]
David Lee Corbo
Well, that's the idea. That's the implications here with the water situation that, you know, we're making this documentary about is like, they want to destroy it. If they can control the water, then they can subject us to quite a lot. And if you're a conspiracy theorist whose worth is sold, I'm sure you can speculate pretty heavily on how they might do that. But also, you know, creating scarcity and things of that nature and then having just sort of a stranglehold on its sources, like Nestle would with the contracts over the natural springs. There is a lot of people who might not want you to talk about this sort of thing, which could explain why Joe Gilberti is now facing 15 years in prison and keep spraying them with a hose. You should probably stop spraying, Joko. Well, listen, we're at the 22 hour mark, Chris, and what is, what's not lost on us is that you know quite a bit about a lot of fun stuff. I hope that we made a decent impression because I'd like to ask if you'd like to come back in the future.
- [116:08]
Chris Gardner
Definitely, definitely. I really enjoy your guys content. There's very few new podcasts that like switch me on. And I have to say, like I was telling you earlier, you guys are funny as all get out and you actually have really good insights. And so I've really been enjoying, you know, coming, you know, coming in contact with your. With your work.
- [116:29]
David Lee Corbo
Well, that's very surprising and I would recommend going into the nearest doctor and getting that checked out.
- [116:34]
Topher
I apologize for not reaching out sooner because Owen did message me. He was like, here's Topher's information. And I was like, thanks. And then he said a bunch of other stuff. And then I Forgot. And then I forgot again. And then it was like.
- [116:45]
David Lee Corbo
It's also just like we're doing a lot of things. We have our hands in probably too many, Too many pots at the moment. Well, I mean, it'll all work out.
- [116:55]
Topher
We have our hands in just enough pots, man.
- [116:56]
David Lee Corbo
So many pots.
- [116:57]
Topher
I'm glad, I'm glad that we got this done, man. I'm glad that Brad texted us yesterday.
- [117:01]
David Lee Corbo
And like a little reminder, a little nudge there. We'd love to have you back next time. You know, you pick the, the. Maybe we'll talk about primary waters. Certainly. Given our, our dabbling in it. More than dabbling. We're making a documentary. We stand to learn some so we could use some information and I think the best way to learn is through conversation.
- [117:21]
Topher
Do this so much more. But I feel, I feel like we distracted you with so much but like with just the dome structure watching.
- [117:26]
David Lee Corbo
Yeah. Off to the side here. Your Instagram is just on loop.
- [117:29]
Topher
This thing is crazy. Look at this thing.
- [117:31]
David Lee Corbo
I love it, I love it, I love it.
- [117:33]
Chris Gardner
Yeah, that, that, that's going to be a showcase item. That's really, it's. It's pretty significant what we were able to accomplish.
- [117:41]
David Lee Corbo
We got to, we got to make it out to Bertaria. I want to see some. I mean, obviously I want to see what Owen's got going out. I'd love to see some of these things in person. I want to step inside one and, and, and play the loot.
- [117:54]
Topher
I wonder. Yeah, the, the acoustics.
- [117:56]
Chris Gardner
Yeah.
- [117:56]
Topher
Thing must be tremendous.
- [117:58]
Chris Gardner
Owen gave me the, he gave me me the, the signal about a month ago saying, hey, I want to be able to record a piano session in, in the dome at Barataria. And I was like, okay, well, let me go ahead and set up a workshop. So we have a workshop starting next Tuesday on the. I think that's the 26th. I forget. Let me look real quick.
- [118:20]
David Lee Corbo
I think so. Yeah. Seven days from now is it. Is the.
- [118:22]
Chris Gardner
Yeah. Next Tuesday the 26th, we have a two day nylon cement workshop and we're going to be putting up the second. How should I say this? The finish scratch coat on the outside of the Barataria dome. And we're going to also be putting in a temporary floor so Owen can record his piano recording in there. We'll throw an AC unit in one side and make sure it's nice to. And cool. We'll call it the Bear Taria Igloo so the big bear doesn't melt and. Yeah. Then after the festival, we'll probably, you know, do all the finish work, paint it up, and, like, make it all pretty and stuff.
- [119:04]
David Lee Corbo
But I can't wait to hear how Baby Boomerville sounds.
- [119:07]
Topher
Oh, yeah, that was funny.
- [119:12]
Chris Gardner
After he went out to you guys, he actually came up here and we filmed a bunch of those. Did you see the skit?
- [119:19]
Topher
Yeah, that's. That's by you. Okay. Yeah, yeah. When I. I had booked this flight, and he's like, I'm not going back to Idaho. So, like, I. I was like, where are you going? And he's going to the Ozark. So I was like, all right. So I. I was like, I guess you're gonna go. He said he was building bathrooms. I'm like, I'm not gonna ask any more questions. You do whatever you're gonna do, whatever weird stuff you're doing out there.
- [119:37]
Chris Gardner
No. So, yeah, his campground is, like, 45 minutes away from where I live. So it's all good. It's good stuff.
- [119:43]
David Lee Corbo
Very cool.
- [119:44]
Chris Gardner
Awesome.
- [119:45]
David Lee Corbo
Well, we gotta arrange something. We'll probably have you back before we end up doing that. But I want to see some domes, dude. We're going to go out and go see domes?
- [119:53]
Topher
Yeah, dude. I mean, this is, like, last question. Are you working with Kanye west, or were you working with him as well? Because I know he's doing stuff like this.
- [120:02]
Chris Gardner
I got. I got some, like. So his. How should I say this? He had an it. Whatever you call it, like, Internet, like, whoever does, like, all the film and recording stuff. He was actually a slave of mine for a year.
- [120:22]
David Lee Corbo
I was like, wait, wait. Okay. All right, go on.
- [120:24]
Chris Gardner
Yeah.
- [120:26]
Topher
He was a builder buddy.
- [120:27]
Chris Gardner
He was a builder buddy, but he was a slave. Brian will always be a slave. And so as my slave, he was kind of upset because he was living here because he wanted the gravy. He wanted to build and do all this stuff. And I would still have my company in Costa Rica, and I was still going back and forth to Costa Rica, and every time I'd be home, I was like, I don't want to do anything. I'm shot. And so he didn't. The second he moves off the property, I start building here and doing all this stuff. But during that time, he was working for Kanye in a limited capacity. He's like, kanye's really into the domes. And I'm like, cool. Like, let's. I'm down to talk with Kanye, you know, I've never listened to his music. I don't know him from a hole in the head other than he's into The Kardashian stuff. And, yeah, it never materialized. I think Owen talked. I think Owen talked to him about the domes a bunch, and he talked to Brian. He's like, yeah, I'm really into the dome. Like, you know, and Kanye speak, but I don't know how well I would mesh with him.
- [121:36]
David Lee Corbo
I think you probably end up loving him. You'd find him overwhelming, for sure. But I imagine that he probably would love domes. He's just got so many other things on his mind, like running a porn website and all that other stuff.
- [121:47]
Topher
Well, now, yeah. I don't know how you'd mess with them.
- [121:49]
David Lee Corbo
You wouldn't mesh with him now. He'd probably show you his. His wife's tits, and then you'd go, all right, well, those.
- [121:54]
Chris Gardner
Those are.
- [121:55]
David Lee Corbo
Talk about domes. All right, let's end it, please. I don't have any more one letters. That was bad. That was. That's when you know it's starting to degrade when I. That was bad.
- [122:03]
Topher
Topher, can you tell the. Tell the people again where they could find you, your podcast, all your stuff?
- [122:08]
Chris Gardner
Yeah, my podcast is the Biocharisma podcast, and that's on all the players. Usually people go through Apple or Spotify for that. I have. I'm also pretty much. I think Bitchute gets populated with everything. Insane moniker, the Biocharisma podcast. I have a YouTube page, but I've been kicked off there so many times, I'm kind of reluctant to actually populate it with anything because I say the word cure and health too much, and they really.
- [122:40]
David Lee Corbo
Oh, yeah, that's a huge problem. They don't like that.
- [122:42]
Chris Gardner
Yeah, they've literally, like. There's been so many live streams. The second the word cure is said from a guest, I'm off.
- [122:51]
David Lee Corbo
Yeah.
- [122:54]
Topher
We. We, like, edit our shows heavily afterward because it's just. It. We didn't even say anything crazy as far as offensive on the show, but I'm like, I already know what words. I'm gonna have to go back because.
- [123:03]
David Lee Corbo
Probably will have to. I mean, I know we didn't claim that it's got health benefits, but just saying.
- [123:07]
Topher
These people are ridiculous. Yeah, but it is what it is, man.
- [123:10]
Chris Gardner
Yeah.
- [123:11]
David Lee Corbo
Well, listen. Oh, no. Please go ahead, Chris. Sorry.
- [123:15]
Chris Gardner
Yeah, And Instagram, like, people really tend to like the Instagram because I'm always putting. When I'm out in the field, I just do, like, little quick snippets of. What's the name of the Instagram Biocharisma? Same, same.
- [123:28]
David Lee Corbo
Biocharismic.
- [123:29]
Topher
Okay, there it is.
- [123:30]
Chris Gardner
Right there. Yeah, it's biochar Isma. And we. We didn't even get to talk about the biochar aspect.
- [123:38]
David Lee Corbo
No, we have to leave some. I'm glad there's so much more to talk about. Yeah, there's so much more to talk about. We're gonna bring you back on.
- [123:44]
Topher
What a fascinating person.
- [123:45]
David Lee Corbo
You know, I almost thank goodness for. For Keisha Bear for reminding me. We have to ask you one last question before we totally end the stream. Chris, are you. And I think I know the answer to this one. Are you having fun?
- [124:00]
Chris Gardner
Oh, God, yeah. Yeah, definitely. I mean, I. I've literally geared my life to just do what I want.
- [124:10]
David Lee Corbo
That's beautiful. That's beautiful, man.
- [124:12]
Topher
We love to hear. Yeah. We haven't had one person come on and say, I think that's the white pill. Like, no matter what we talk about, sometimes the episodes get dark. You get into, like, a lot of SRA stuff or whatever. But every guest we have on, we like, are you having fun? And without hesitation, yes.
- [124:26]
David Lee Corbo
Yeah. You know why? Because I don't think that you get into this sort of thing unless you're pursuing what you actually want to pursue. And I think it's really that simple. Like, what's gonna bring you down is doing things that you're not called to. Right. So however many jobs I had or whatever you were doing in the subways and everything, it's like, if you're not called to do this, if this isn't what's constantly tugging at you, then, yeah, I bet you if I went down into the tunnels beneath New York City and said, hey, are you having fun, dude? You'd have been like, who are you? Get away from me. I hate you. But, yeah, I mean, no matter what it is, if you're pursuing it, I think, yeah, you're having fun.
- [125:00]
Topher
Excellent, Chris. Thank you again. Let's bring this in for a landing, guys. It's been another great episode of Nephilim Death Squad, and until next time, don't forget to obey, submit, and complain.
- [125:15]
Chris Gardner
The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.
- [125:24]
Topher
You can persuade us that what they.
- [125:28]
Chris Gardner
See with their eyes is what there is to see, because they'll act in the face of an explanation.
- [125:39]
Topher
And they have.