Co-host Chris (2:46)

Is that happening still?

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (2:47)

Guys, do we have a button for this? Hold on a second. We have an announcement. We have secured a venue. As of right now, Bohemian Grove is going to be August 8th. August 7th is the VIP day and August 8th is the main event that's going to be down here in Florida. Wildwood, Florida is going to be the area. Tickets are not on sale yet. However, what you can do is you can email us. If you email us, we'll put you on a list.

Co-host Chris (3:13)

Just made that I'm gonna do it.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (3:14)

I will do it. Maybe I won't.

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David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (3:15)

I'll do it. Well, we'll email you as soon as the tickets go on.

Jeremiah Skiba (3:19)

Email?

Co-host Chris (3:20)

You don't email us, we'll email you.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (3:21)

No, you email us. I'll put you on a list and as soon as the. The tickets go live, I'll email you. I'll let you know. Or better yet, maybe since you emailed us, I'll give you a little headway.

Co-host Chris (3:29)

Tickets will be available@toplops.com you can pick up a T shirt.

Jeremiah Skiba (3:32)

Relax.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (3:33)

Hold on a second.

Co-host Chris (3:34)

Okay, we can pick up a T shirt. We got to bring the energy down for a second.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (3:39)

Wear a T shirt. Do you need something to cover up your. Your nipples?

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Do you want to. Do you want to go to sleep with just a T shirt and no pants? We have great guests today.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (3:46)

Joining us today are are the fine gentleman from Ska News Network. It is Jake News Nation. I'm sorry, why did I think it was network start up the. The whole thing over restarted? No, I'm just playing Schema News Nation. It is Jeremiah and Jake. Guys, thank you for joining us. Before we get into today's discussion, let everybody know where it is that they can find your work and. And what it is that you do.

Jeremiah Skiba (4:13)

Well, you can find us everywhere at Skiba News Nation or if you just want to follow me, I'm a Jeremiah Skiba. I do a show, a crazy show. And I like history. I like to find deep, dark things in history. So that's pretty much what I do.

Jake Skiba (4:28)

Oh yeah?

Co-host Chris (4:29)

Yeah.

Jake Skiba (4:29)

And I'm. I'm Jake too human on all my socials and I do more of the news and kind of the biblically esoteric stuff. Stuff that's kind of my pet horse. I like to ride around. But yeah, yeah, because these, these guys

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (4:46)

are doing a cool thing too. Show us Truth or con. I saw that up there. Tell us.

Jeremiah Skiba (4:52)

If you go to truthercon.com there's actually some hidden stuff in there. Like you. There's a place where you can play game and stuff.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (4:58)

So what, you hid stuff in your website for truthercon.com?

Jeremiah Skiba (5:02)

yeah, it's like a, like flappy bird kind of. But a ufo. That's the only one I can give you as of right now.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (5:07)

So wait, was there more than one thing hidden on truthercon.com?

Jeremiah Skiba (5:11)

yeah, yeah. Or more than one stuff is awesome. So if you keep scrolling, I noticed that they started messing with people on the thing, like whoever that is. Flattered Dave.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (5:23)

Flatter. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

Jake Skiba (5:25)

He's not coming.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (5:28)

Flat Earth Dave is going to be there. I thought he thought you. Or rather he was. What's the guy's name? There's, like, a murderer. Timothy McVeigh. Who. Who is Flat Earth Dave. I thought you were having it.

Jeremiah Skiba (5:40)

Butter Dave was the guy that I. That I. I got a whole bunch of views. He's the.

Co-host Chris (5:44)

The.

Jeremiah Skiba (5:45)

The faggest.

Jake Skiba (5:45)

Flat Earther.

Jeremiah Skiba (5:46)

That's what I call him. But the fittest. But he. He calls my dad all kinds of things, right? So somebody sent me the most brilliant photo of Timothy McVeigh and him. And so I just did the same thing that he always does and said, hey, look, they're the same guy, man. And, yeah, it went viral. Like, it legit went viral. And I've never had a video, like. And I was like. To my wife, I was like, should I post this? And she was like, no. And I was like, I'm just. I'm just gonna post it and see what happens. And it was, like, really bad quality. Just like all his videos.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (6:17)

Yeah.

Jeremiah Skiba (6:17)

And everybody loved it. And I was so surprised.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (6:20)

Well, he's out there talking. I. I saw him. He said something about, like, your dad faking his. His own death or something crazy like that. I'm like, this guy, he's a. He's kind of a dude in our. I don't know, you want to say community, whatever this is.

Co-host Chris (6:33)

This is the same guy that says, Right?

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (6:36)

Yeah, he says about Sam Tripley. He just says whatever the. He wants to say.

Jeremiah Skiba (6:40)

And Ripley reached out and he was like, thank you for doing that. There were so many people that said thank you because they think he's a plant. I think he's a plant, too.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (6:48)

He's a psyop.

Jeremiah Skiba (6:49)

He's like, where did he come from?

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (6:50)

You know, he's a bizarre character. He's. What happened with Sam reached out to him. He. He.

Jeremiah Skiba (6:55)

No, he reached out to me, and he was like, bro, that was awesome. And I was like, thanks, man.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (6:59)

Oh, that's funny.

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Jeremiah Skiba (7:59)

And so I'm, I'm glad he liked it. There's so many people that I guess they're just sick of them and. But then there's some, like, die hard, fittest blood Earther fans that, like, reach out and they're like, how dare you? I'm like, well, you called my dead dad alive, so it's probably just him

Jake Skiba (8:15)

with a sock account. He's just like, messaging you in a sock account.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (8:18)

Hey, I mean, he said your dad was nice to. Yeah, he faked his death. That's like, he said his dead dad was alive. That's the craziest thing to do.

Jeremiah Skiba (8:26)

I buried my dad, and so I would, like, I would, I even told him, I'd love to debate you on the show. I would love to debate you because I could prove you wrong. Like, I saw him dead, so you can't call him alive if he's dead. Right? I mean, I don't know why these things are so hard. So nobody dies in this. In his universe, everybody just changes into somebody else.

Co-host Chris (8:51)

So I will say maybe I'm an. But I'm a big fan of, like, the whole Netanyahu thing. And this is, I don't, I don't mean to, like, be crass about, like. Yeah, but the Netanyahu being dead in the AI videos, I like that if he is alive, that the general public is saying, no, you're dead. Yeah, it's very gaslighty.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (9:09)

Somebody in the comments said his name, the acronym for Flat Earth Dave is fed. That's so crazy. Jack Bonson just said that his name is Fed Flat Earth Dave. That's crazy as hell. I wonder if it's. It really is. Like, the dude's a plant and he's like, got everybody freaked out.

Co-host Chris (9:26)

Oh, two different people.

Jeremiah Skiba (9:27)

Yeah. No, there's Flat Earther and then Flattered

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (9:32)

Dave who's like, oh, my mistake.

Jeremiah Skiba (9:34)

He's more, he's more legit. But I get why people get them kind of mixed up. A lot of people do think he's a plant, but I, I, I don't think so, in my personal opinion.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (9:42)

But you know what it is, man? In this community, we do a lot of, like, pointing at each other because we're all, you know, conspiratorial in our nature. We've, we've developed quite the healthy, I would say healthy. It could, you know, in some instances become a little unhealthy distrust for the official narrative. So, I mean, we catch a lot of strays in this, in this community. I've been called a gender inverted, freemasonic bioweapon, Jewish bioweapon, which, you know, maybe that's true, but it's just, you know, the point is, when you have this, this way of thinking, everybody is, is, is a target.

Co-host Chris (10:20)

Really sucks to do it to somebody who's like, you're talking about their dad.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (10:24)

Yeah, it sucks to be like, actually, I know for a fact that guy's dead because he's my father.

Jeremiah Skiba (10:28)

Yeah. Well, the thing is, I could sue him for slander if I really wanted to, but, you know, you know, I, I don't, I don't, I don't want it to come to that. You know, I, I really like to be a peaceful guy, if I can be, but I, I can, I can get angry and, you know, break some arms and fingers.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (10:45)

I just think, you know, I like the 90s where everything is settled by calling somebody a. Yeah, you go like, hey, man, shut up. And then they go, no, you. And then that's it. You go, all right, you know what I mean? Like now, it's. Now everything is crazy with the Internet and. But you know that the reason it's crazy is because you say something that's bullshit, and now all of a sudden you have thousands of people echoing those sentiments.

Jeremiah Skiba (11:09)

Right?

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (11:09)

And. And that's where it becomes a problem.

Co-host Chris (11:11)

Yeah, for sure. Could you, could you tell us a little bit more about the truth of content? I. We were on your show and you guys were breaking it down, but it is a cool ass event. And it's in Texas, right?

Jeremiah Skiba (11:21)

Yeah, Dallas, Texas. Where the, where the. It's the first time the word conspiracy theorist was used to demonize people like us with the JFK assassination. That's what I broke down last year. I did a presentation about where the fatal shot came from. And we're slowly putting out all the, all the truth or con speeches. But this year we're gonna have comedy. And I asked Sam Tripoli if he'd be a part of it, and he said, I'm down. And I was like, oh, my God,

Jake Skiba (11:47)

like, this is so cool.

Jeremiah Skiba (11:48)

So instead of music, we decided to do comedy. So it's like every truther of all kinds. Because, you know, there always used to be like the flat Earth conferences. And I told my dad and my mom at one point in their life, hey, I thought it'd be cool if, like, you, You. You got everybody to come, because then it would be like a variety show and you get a whole bunch of new eyes. And they thought it was a good idea and they were thinking about doing it, and then they both died. And then later on, I had the idea again and ended up telling somebody, we won't go into that story. But at Jake's birthday in Florida, I was like, I was telling him my idea again, and he was like, we're gonna do it. And then my wife was like, we're gonna do it. And so we decided we're gonna do it. And so it's. It's like a variety conspiracy mixed with comedy. And it's awesome to come together and see fellow truth seekers. And I even met a dude at the hospital that knew who me and Jake were and, and wanted to come to Truth or Con. And in a hospital, I was like, dude, what the heck? He was the guy that does the vent too. He's the breathing.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (12:51)

So shout out.

Jeremiah Skiba (12:51)

Michael. What's up, man? He watches the all show too. He. He loves you guys.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (12:57)

Oh, that's funny.

Co-host Chris (12:59)

My. My. My wife's.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (13:01)

My wife. My wife.

Jeremiah Skiba (13:02)

My wife.

Co-host Chris (13:04)

Her uncle was at a Bible study and he's talking to a dentist and they were talking about podcasts.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (13:09)

Yeah.

Co-host Chris (13:10)

And he knew our podcast in. In Jersey. I was just like, that's bizarre. It's weird. It's. It's getting weird out there, guys.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (13:16)

Well, I think that's why people know shows like these is because it's getting weird out there. The weirder it gets, the more people gravitate away from the official narrative. And I think that it is important to have, like, events like these, like Truth or Conor, like Bohemian Grove, where we get to get together. It's no longer just this thing. I mean, think about it. A lot of us experience, experienced being on the fringes of society for the vast majority of. Of our lives. If you had these ideas for any length of time, they weren't always well received. Now, not only did we find these communities on the Internet and, And, and we can make shows like these, but we could actually go and, and get these people together in real life, which is insane. Should be illegal. I think it probably is illegal. I'm pretty sure it is illegal some countries. Yeah, in some countries. But it's. It's remarkable that we could throw an event, you know, of any size and have people come from any other place that's not in your immediate area just to come and express these ideas and hang out with, you know, fellow schizophrenics.

Jake Skiba (14:14)

It's a small world, really, when you think about it. Conspiracy theorists are basically the white blood cells of society. Right. The room always needs a skeptic. And it goes back way into, like, the practices of the. The Sanhedrin. They would have the 13th man principle, which is you always have to have one skeptic or else group think takes over. And so that's why it's such a small world in conspiracy land is because there has to be one of us in every kind of social dynamic, I think. And. And we're just all, like, so vocal about, you know, our skepticism that we connect. It's pretty cool. There's so many people that want everybody into the same room is really important.

Jeremiah Skiba (14:50)

Yeah. When there are all these other people that are trying to do the same thing, but they want to, like, beef with us. But I'm not really into that. It's like, I'd rather have you guys there and build a bigger truther network and know what I mean? Like, y' all promote Bohemian Grove, and then it builds something, you know, and we get all these truthers together. That's amazing. You know, we could do that instead of fight, but a lot of people would rather fight. I don't know why.

Co-host Chris (15:11)

It's a famine mentality, but, like. Yeah, as I'm. As I'm watching you guys, I mean, what you have built out, I'll be honest, is more fleshed out than what we have. We've done our thing three, four times now. But you guys seem, like, more well established with this thing. Doesn't mean that they can't go to Texas and then come to Florida later.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (15:29)

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's gonna.

Co-host Chris (15:32)

It's gonna taste different, baby. Both of the. Yeah, it's gonna be ice cream, but different flavors.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (15:36)

I know.

Jeremiah Skiba (15:37)

We promote it, too, you know, like, have everybody. Hey. Go to Florida. You know, we'll be there.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (15:42)

Yeah. Yeah. Not everybody wants to travel, you know, to this place or that place can be to another one, or maybe they travel to all of them. But I think it's. It's. What you're dealing with is people that are really passionate, too, because just think about the mindset. It's like I said, shut out fringes. Of society. Your ideas are met with constant contention for the vast majority of your life. Then all of a sudden like you're, you know, you're engaging in the open arena, but you're still very passionate about these ideas. So sometimes what I find is just because somebody has a difference of opinion, you know, of a conspiratorial nature than what you have, you feel as though you've got the truth. They feel as though they've got the truth. There's a lot of butting heads. I, I do find that I, I try to be easy on people. Like if you believe in Jesus, like, we can get super far, you know, and if, and especially if you don't believe in like Pleiadian Jesus, they have

Co-host Chris (16:31)

the dancing tick tock nurses on their website. This is crazy.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (16:33)

That's hilarious. We gotta get a better.

Co-host Chris (16:35)

We have a lot of work to do.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (16:36)

I know. Unbelievable.

Co-host Chris (16:39)

It's beautiful.

Jeremiah Skiba (16:39)

Awesome.

Co-host Chris (16:40)

Yeah.

Jeremiah Skiba (16:40)

Frank Sinatra actually sung on that stage, which blew my mind.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (16:44)

I think a homeless guy died in the bathroom of our venue.

Jeremiah Skiba (16:47)

That's awesome. That is awesome.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (16:50)

But, you know, so as long as you're not out there hating God or, and, and if you're willing to have a reasonable dialogue with me, we can go pretty far. Still, if you're after the truth and you, and you. And you're not willing to, I don't know, maybe have blinders because of some preconceived notions of Christianity or something. And if you also, you know, you don't go, Jesus Christ, as the Bible puts it, not a real guy, not the son of the living God who died and overcame death, but instead Pleiadian Jesus or like Christ consciousness thing that does exactly it, it's, it, it, it exhausts me because I've already seen all that and a lot of people, when they talk about that sort of thing, they act like it's a profound insight.

Co-host Chris (17:40)

Yes. Specific triggers like he, he gets triggered by new age stuff because that's where he came from.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (17:45)

Yeah.

Co-host Chris (17:46)

For me, I get triggered by Christian people who aren't as hardcore as I'd like them to be, because that's where I came from. That makes any sense, right?

Jake Skiba (17:57)

No one likes a hypocrite.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (17:59)

Well, what, what grinds your gears?

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Jeremiah Skiba (18:47)

Hypocrites.

Jake Skiba (18:49)

Yeah, I mean, I've grown up around missionaries and Christians my whole life, and so I've seen a lot of the facade that people put up, and I can pick up on it pretty quick because there's a way that Christians tend to phone it in. You don't want to lose the social structure. You don't want to lose the hierarchy in your church. And so people have unfortunately, you know, fallen into these traps where they put on this face. And I think, I think the spirit of truth, you know, which is the spirit of, you know, of Christ, is, you know, not afraid to just be real. And, you know, I think that's what I, I, I. It grinds my gears when I feel that from other people that they're trying to present themselves as something that they're not or they're not just, you know, being, being honest with their own struggles. Because I think the most powerful thing, thing about a Christian's walk is their testimony. And so what is a testimony is when you talk about how you've screwed up and you've overcome, and so that becomes prophetic in somebody else's life. But when people whitewash themselves, they're no better than the Pharisees. So.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (19:53)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I, I've had that discussion before on the show where it's like, you know, you don't have to have like a camera and you don't have to have a studio to answer the call. Right. We're all being called by name and we all have, you know, the way I look at it is, is like a mission, if you are to accept it, that sort of a thing. And that doesn't mean that you have to then, like I said, get a camera, get a microphone, and spread the good news. It's like you have a thing that's unique to you and it's your testimony. And everybody's had, you know, a very unique story about how they've come to, to Christ or how Jesus revealed themselves or himself to, you know, an individual. And all you've got to do is get out and share that because your personal story will resonate with somebody out there. Somebody's going to hear that and it's going to be real close to what they experience. And you might have a story that like your set of words and the way you lay it out lands with one person and it changes them forever. And so I don't know, I. I've come to, you know, to, to be in a church for the first time in my life and I look around and I see what the public kind of scoffs at, which is. I don't want to say they're all like, you know, this idea of like whitewashed tombs or anything like that, but there is a caricature kind of going around out there and it's somebody that goes to the 501C3 system and they're just going through the motions. And you know, I don't know what their walk with Christ is like, but on the surface it doesn't look like anything and they're not bearing any fruit and they don't seem to be passionate about anything except for keeping the image up. And that puts a lot of people off. I. I sometimes think about that the church might have to answer for a lot because if you create an entire thing that's supposed to be oriented towards God and it ends up pushing countless people away from Christ, like that's. There's got to be a huge kind of spiritual ass whooping in store for you if that's what you've done.

Jake Skiba (21:54)

Y. Yeah, it's the system of church today is this pyramid scheme in a lot of ways. And there's a great book that I read called Pagan Christianity by George Barna. And it, it's really fantastic how it explains how the first century church really the way it was formed is the multi, the multicative process of church versus the additive process. And so what we see now is the additive process of church where they just want to add an extension to the building. They want to build the student ministry, you know, section. And, and it's the system of church, I think, that lulls people to sleep. And also what it does is it keeps from equipping the people that want to be part of the body of Christ, so to speak. So the, the first century church, what they did is they met in homes and when they outgrew that home, they would equip people within that group to then go and start their own group. But what we have now is we have these massive kind of cancerous organizations that are just funneling money and resources into these structures, which is to me counterintuitive to what, you know, the the whole mission is. And, and so, I mean, we've just inherited, you know, there's the. A verse in the Scriptures that says the Gentiles come from the ends of the earth saying we've inherited lies and things where there's no profit. I think that's where we're at. We've inherited a system of functioning. And so people, you know, when they go crazy, when they want to talk about topics that don't fit into the status quo, they get kicked out of these bodies because they are ruffling feathers. But those are the people that I am drawn to and, and would rather spend time with the people that are, you know, thinking, you know, along the crazy lines. But in fact, you, you know, conspiracy theorists are more prophetic than they know. And, you know, it's, it's, I think it's ruffling the feathers that, you know, cause people to kind of hide who they truly are because they want to fit into these social dynamics. And, and, and that's kind of the battle right now is the kind of the modern conservative Christian, you know, just system that really is leaving a lot of at least our, you know, younger generation. They're just like, ah, this is all bull. Like, you guys just are going to hear the same 15 sermons spoken every, you know, Sunday. And, and they're not digging into the, the nitty gritty stuff. They're not asking or talking about the hard questions. And, you know, and I think that's, you know, some of the disappointment people have had with the Christian church over the years. But, you know, nobody's perfect. Every system has its benefits, but every system also has its, you know, its issues and its poisons.

Jeremiah Skiba (24:35)

So.

Co-host Chris (24:36)

And that, that system for sure is, it's dying in a way. I mean, although we, we do go to a church, a 501C3 church, but that's one day a week, and that's two hours of one day a week.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (24:46)

And realistically, really excellent Easter presentation.

Co-host Chris (24:50)

Yeah, it's realistically 30 minutes of a week where you're getting scripture.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (24:56)

Yeah.

Co-host Chris (24:56)

You know, or a message and people. There's a place for it. I think some people want that and some people need that maybe as like a, you know, a baby feeder, but that's, that's dying off rapidly. Like, I try my best not to criticize it anymore because I, I used to be a really big critic of it accurately. But I'm like, man, am I hurting people more than I'm helping them? So I've stepped back, but I'm, I'm watching. Matt just told us Nathan Apfeld will be on Tucker Carlson and he's the guy that exposes these mega churches. He goes around. Yeah. He talks about where the money is going and how this is a complete business. And it's like, hey, it's not, it's not really up to me anymore. Like that's happening, that's going to, that's going to spiral and it's going to create something. But while that, while that system dies, something new will be born out of it because Christianity is not going anywhere. The idea is still wonderful. The, it's still the truth.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (25:49)

Yeah.

Co-host Chris (25:50)

So I look forward to seeing what people build out of it.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (25:53)

I think that's the thing, is something has to be built out of it. Something has to emerge out of that old dying system. Because you're right, Christianity is not going away. As the world gets crazier, more and more people gravitate towards spirituality. The clever ones, the smart ones gravitate towards Christianity, towards Christ. I think if you're pursuing the truth, truth, you're always going to come to Christ as long as you're earnest about pursuing the truth.

Co-host Chris (26:14)

Well, I kind of wanted to ask Jake because before the show we were, we were getting at like the flavor of Christianity that he's observing. And it was really interesting. Like this messianic Christianity where you're paying attention to the feast and, and the laws and the time frames and I guess like the lunar cycles and things like that. Where do you, do you think, you think there'll be more of a movement toward that rather than this kind of superficial, you know, what does he call it? Five songs and

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (26:41)

five songs at a show.

Co-host Chris (26:42)

Yeah, that kind of stuff.

Jake Skiba (26:43)

Yeah. No, absolutely. I think it's, it's all the concept of the Bride of Christ preparing their garments to be white and spotless. And I think we've inherited a lot through the Catholic Church and their thumb on belief and interpretation of Scripture. And then even the Protestant Church as it took a step out of the Catholic Church that left one foot firmly planted in a lot of the traditions and, and theologies of the Catholic Church. And we just brought them along with us. And there's actually a growing movement, Rob Skiba would call it the Ephraim Awakening. And it's the concept that know the, the world has, you know, all these different 40,000 plus Christian denominations and they all are, you know, interpreting their set of beliefs and what's good for their ministering body or whatever. But the truth is, is the Torah or the commandments of The Almighty are the matrix code of reality. And it's not necessarily a salvation issue which is what's kind of thrown against it of oh, don't look into the Torah, you know, that's a works based salvation. No, what it is is it's the definition of blessings and curses. And also it's how we learn more about the Father in heaven because he revealed himself through his word, right, his commandments. And you know, as I've, I've been practicing for 10 years, I'm kind of post Christian in that sense that I grew up as a missionary kid in the Philippines, you know, kind of so bap. Independent missionary. And, and I saw a lot of these different flavors, flavors of Christianity and and so after I kind of left that mindset I realized that a lot of these commandments that are kind of minimized or ignored actually are, are really depthy and are very spiritually significant. Like some of the main things I think modern Christianity hides their eyes from are the dietary laws, the Sabbaths and you know, some of the other, you know, minor things like you know, oh, helping your neighbor when their oxen is gone wandering or something, you know, bring, you know, these things are just practical ways of loving your neighbor. And to boil it down, you know, Yeshua summarized all of the commandments with the two, right? Loving God and loving your neighbor. And I think where the modern church has missed out is they've missed out on the loving God part and the loving God part comes along with submitting our lives to his ways and not our ways, our understanding. And you know, we're in the time of the, the spring feast right now. So we just did a passover celebration break and we're just kidding. Yeah, we're entering into the, the Omer count which is the 50 day count up to Shavuot or Pentecost.

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And during this period of time, I like to meditate on Psalm 119. There's a. An actual interesting little theory I have, if you guys want to hear it.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (30:44)

Sure.

Jeremiah Skiba (30:45)

Yeah.

Jake Skiba (30:46)

So. So Psalm 119 is this acrostic poem, and I believe it was a cipher left by King David to help us unlock the Hebrew language and unlock what it means to have the heart of David, because David was called the man after Yah's own heart. And so the process of meditating on this ketubah like language, this marriage covenant like language, which is a love letter to the Torah. You know, all of Psalm 119 is broken down into these 22 sections, and each section is headed by the letter. And every word that starts that section in the Hebrew is that letters. So Aleph, every word starts with Aleph, the bet section, every word, every sentence starts with bet. And what's interesting is I think I can empirically make a case of what the apostles in the upper room were singing, praying and praising when the. The Holy Spirit fell. And. And it's one of these sections of Psalm 119 because there's a liturgical process leading up to Passover where they would sing the songs of ascent. And after Passover, there's also an interesting meditation period where they would every single day look at one of these Hebrew letters. And so if you go 22 Hebrew letters, you know, it's a 50 day count. So you restart and you do 22 more, that's 44. And then what do you do? You restart one more time. And so the section of Psalm 119 you would be meditating on during Shavuot, which would be the vav, the letter vav. And what's fascinating about the letter VAV is in rabbinic. Yeah, we can look at this. If you compare what is talked about in this VAV portion with the sermon that Peter gives, there's some amazing parallels. But the VAV is called the heart of the Torah. A lot of people don't know this. It's in rabbinic scribal practices when they would write out the Torah very carefully. If you go equal distance from the first letter and the last letter and go all the way to the center, the very center of the Torah is the letter vav. And they actually make a really big VAV in the Torah scrolls to denote the heart of the Torah. And anyways, when you look at Peter's sermon, right? What is the vav? The VAV in Hebrew is the conjoining of heavenly and earthly things. And what's fascinating about that is the. What is Pentecost? It's when the Spirit of God fell on the apostles and they started, you know, you know, speaking in other tongues and prophesying. And what's interesting is the vav, the letter VAV in the, the pictographic Hebrew is the piercing nail. And the piercing nail is also synonymous with the consummation of a marriage. To get explicit with. It's the piercing nail, if you know what I mean.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (33:38)

Right.

Jake Skiba (33:38)

And that's what, that's what Pentecost was also in the days of Moses is. It was when that marriage happened between Israel and the Almighty and he gave them his Torah as this kind of marriage contract. And so in the, in the New Testament sense, this vav, this portion of the Bob is really interesting, but long story short, you know, the. The Torah is the matrix code of reality. It defines blessings and curses and, And I think modern Christianity has hidden their eyes from it, just as it was prophesied in the book of Ezekiel that the. They wouldn't teach the difference between the clean and the unclean. They would hide their eyes from the Sabbaths so that the most high would be profaned among them. And this is really offensive to a lot of, you know, Christians. And, and I'm not judging anybody. You know, we all have our own, you know, race to run and, you know, we got to figure this stuff out, you know, because, you know, but more than any generation, right, we have the ability to read the Scriptures and, and see the different languages. I mean, you used to have to know like five or six languages and go to an old dusty library to like, find some of the stuff that we all have access to in an amazing way. And that's what the, the day and age we live in, you know, is. Knowledge is increased. And I think it's because the most high, once, once the people of the earth to, to. To prepare themselves, to get their garments spotless and unblemished because, you know, when a perfect creator, you know, in his mercy, I think he kind of withdrew from mankind to where in our ignorance, in our sin, you know, we weren't just evaporated and destroyed because we're these sinful beings, but as you know, you know, he's coming closer to the earth and he's coming closer to mankind, and we want his spirit to be drawn closer to us. Well, that requires a holier environment. Because as he comes near, that's when you see all the plagues of revelation kick off. Because, you know, in the presence of a holy God, you know, what we deserve, we get, you know, because an unclean thing can't dwell in his presence. And so, you know, I think he's been merciful for us for a very long time in our ignorance, in our different denominations, in our different cultures. But as he draws close, it's like he's given us the tools that we can use to look at porn all day or we can, you know, use to learn about who he is and learn the truth about all these things that we used to have to go to a man who spoke Latin. We used to have to go to the pastor in terms of, oh, you're the one who went to seminary. But now the hand, the. The baton's been handed to the lay people and it's. It's up to us to do our homework. And I think that's why the awakening, the Ephraim awakening is happening, which is also synonymous to, you know, the. The promise of Abraham coming to fulfillment.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (36:26)

Right?

Jake Skiba (36:27)

So the Jews will say that when but the sons of Ephraim come back, this. The name of the Messiah will be on their L. Oh, yeah. And Jeremiah knows a lot about the Jews in terms of the, the secular nation state and you know, how language.

Jeremiah Skiba (36:44)

I'll talk about these later.

Jake Skiba (36:45)

But yeah, I can, I can keep going on and on, guys, but if, you know, if you want to have

Co-host Chris (36:50)

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Jake Skiba (37:51)

I guess.

Co-host Chris (37:51)

I have two questions, one being what do you make of Peter's dream about the clean and the unclean animals. Like, where do you guys. Where do you put that with the Old Testament? And then you have, like, a New Testament contradicting it in a way.

Jake Skiba (38:06)

Yeah. So the. The concept of the clean and unclean foods is a big sticking point for modern Christians. And I will say that a Christian is more likely to listen to a doctor that says, stop eating pork than they will God himself, right? Which is. It's funny, but Peter's vision, right, he saw three sheets come down with unclean animals. And throughout the Scriptures, these unclean animals have always been associated with the Gentile nations, these unclean people. And so what happens is three sheets come down, rise, Peter, kill and eat. And then what happens? It says specifically that Peter was mulling over the meaning of the vision. So right there, Peter himself didn't interpret it how most Christian pastors interpret it today. And so as he's mulling over the meaning of the vision, behold, three Gentiles sent from Cornelius show up at his door. Boom, right? And boom. Three. Three, you know, three and three. And it says later on that Peter interprets his own vision to mean that the Gentiles, the. The, you know, people of the nations should not be viewed as unclean, that they too, could be grafted into the covenant. And so what we do is instead of just listening to Peter's own interpretation, we superimpose the clean and unclean interpretation to justify our bellies. And. And if you think about it, you know, what was the first sin in the Garden of Eden, right? It was about what to eat and what not to eat. And it's very significant because you have portions in, like, Isaiah 66 that say in the coming of the. The. The day of the Lord time period that people who are eating swine's flesh are going to be, like, you know, destroyed, you know, And I'm not trying to be hard on anybody because, you know, I grew up in the Philippines eating all manner of unclean, you know, terrible things, you know, eating, you know, pigs and, you know, I. We'd eat all kinds of gross stuff. But, you know, I'm not being hard on anybody. But, you know, it's definitely, you know, it's. So it boils down to what is food and what's not food. And the concept that unclean animals were never intended to be for man's diet. And our creator in heaven, he is the divine physician. And so when he details what to eat and what not to eat, it's because he loves us. And so if we were to Just look at it from a health mindset, like a health perspective of, oh, this is the kind of food that carries parasites and has proteins that aren't digestible by the human body. And. And all the kind of backing to, like, what would be a doctor's excuse for not eating it. Then why are we so surprised that there's a blessing and a curse hidden in those commandments so very carefully, Jake.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (40:53)

Yeah, well, America is a big bacon country, right? I mean, bacon is like. It's like almost meme culture in America.

Co-host Chris (40:59)

I'm not one to be like, I moved from New York to Florida and people like, well, the pizza. I'm like that. Like, you know, it's. That's crazy to not do something because of food. People are motivated by it. But there is something there with the. The pigs that you're talking about, the pork, the trichinosis that's readily available if it's undercooked.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (41:17)

But I actually stopped before I ever, you know, understood. And I'd like to get into this conversation. I think it's important to lay out, like, what is unclean. But before we even get there, I stopped eating pork because for some reason, dude, like, back in the day, Mrs. Maybe could have been some six, seven years ago now, I got a package of pork chops from the supermarket, and I'm telling you, I made the mistake three, four times in a row before I finally stopped. Every time, no matter how I cooked them, they smelled like urine and. And dirty farm.

Co-host Chris (41:46)

Well, I mean, I was like, dude, like.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (41:48)

And I.

Co-host Chris (41:49)

Dogs. If you. If you hunt a male hog and there's too much testosterone, generally what you got to do is, like, castrate it, let it wild, and then come back to it later and kill it if you're lucky to find it again.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (42:00)

But, yeah, because you don't want to eat that.

Co-host Chris (42:01)

The meat's disgusting. But you mentioned parasites. That's something that we've been talking about for quite a while on this show. One of our first sponsors was Paris, a parasite cleanse company.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (42:10)

Yeah.

Co-host Chris (42:11)

And the owner of that company.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (42:12)

Shout out to Purge Store.

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Shout out to Purge Store.

Jeremiah Skiba (42:15)

Yeah.

Co-host Chris (42:16)

The owner of that company was like, I think that there's a relationship between parasites and demons.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (42:21)

Yeah. Honestly, the way that I've come to look at it is, like, they seem like a biological conduit for spiritual energy, like, negative spiritual energy. Because even in these, like, really strange scenarios where you see, like, a witch doctor in some sort of, you know, a tribe of sorts, and they're going through the whole procedure and they're, you know, cracking eggs. There always involves an egg for some reason or ceremony. But what ends up being purged out of the individual looks to me like a, like a bundle of hair or like black worms. And everything, you know, on a, on a parasitic level is almost always some sort of a worm. And, you know, it, it shows up over and over again.

Co-host Chris (42:56)

That doesn't burn, huh?

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (42:57)

Yeah, the worm that never burns. But there are people who are not looking at it from a spiritual vantage point. They're just looking at it purely from a biological standpoint. And there's so much data to back up that parasites, not only they're affecting your gut biome, they call your gut the second brain. Right. So it has a lot to do with your mood and things of that nature, but also that they can affect your thoughts in some way, shape or form.

Co-host Chris (43:20)

And well, yeah, if you're, if you're, if you have these parasites in your gut, your brain is going to be cloudy. You're not going to make the same decisions that you would otherwise on a cleaner diet.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (43:29)

But it also gets weirder when you look at the idea of the praying mantis has a black worm parasite. I forget. I think it's called a horse worm. And this thing is an aquatic worm. It wants to be birthed in the water. And so what it'll actually do is drive the insect that is its host into the water. That's horrifying.

Co-host Chris (43:47)

It's what it looks like.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (43:48)

Image of a parasite up close looks a lot like a demon, but it'll drive the host into the water to commit suicide. Which is fascinating because if you just think about the narrative that demonic oppression

Co-host Chris (44:00)

runs, cats do the same thing.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (44:02)

They don't do the same thing. Cats would never do that. Yeah, but what they do is they will drive you to, to basically this, this extent where suicide is the end game. Right. If we're talking about the spirits that are put pushing you towards depression and anger and resentment and, and feelings of worthlessness and, and all these different things, those all lead to one final end game. And it's kind of the same thing for the praying mantis with the horse worm. So, I mean, I don't know, do you guys think we're crazy for, for drawing that connection? It's fine if you do.

Jeremiah Skiba (44:35)

No, I, I, I stopped eating pig because of, they, they would use pigs to, like, because they're so close to humans would use it for police dogs. And I always thought that that was weird. I felt like I was eating a person so they would they, they buried the carcasses and the police dogs would find. Find it. But they're the closest. I, I believe I could be wrong. Jake, am I, am I right?

Co-host Chris (44:57)

Yeah.

Jake Skiba (44:58)

Some people believe that there was, there's some cross breeding with swine and mankind.

Jeremiah Skiba (45:04)

And when I found that out, I

Jake Skiba (45:05)

was, you know, people. Yeah, I mean it, it's definitely the go, you know, the goy slop food, food topic. The things that we eat causing us to have sicknesses and ailments, feeding us into these medical systems. It, there's a reason that it's the most prevalent cheap food in the western world is because they want us self cursing. And I mean the most high left an instructions like anything that doesn't chew the cud or doesn't have a split hoof, you don't eat it. And it's because I, I think he was warning his people like look, these are the things that carry parasites. These are the things that you shouldn't eat and that if you do you're going to be self cursing. And so when we talk about the synagogue of Satan topic and, and the people that rule this world, they want us to have a mindset and a theology that justifies self cursing because they want us, you know, inviting the demons and they want, yeah, they want you

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (46:00)

to come into agreement with a lot of. They do that with our.

Co-host Chris (46:03)

I just had some Penny the other

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (46:04)

day too and oh dude, it's so good.

Co-host Chris (46:06)

But I'm not one to typically eat much pork.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (46:08)

Yeah, I don't really but it because

Co-host Chris (46:09)

like, you know, a Spanish household, if they make it, yo, that's.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (46:12)

Yeah, my wife labors over, you know, pork roast.

Co-host Chris (46:15)

Your wife pork bends in my house.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (46:17)

And it was good and you enjoyed it and everybody ate it. And now going to hell. Something interesting here. Xenotransplantation. So scientists, they are working on ways to modify the DNA of pigs to accommodate organs that would be successfully transplanted into human beings for organ transplant.

Co-host Chris (46:35)

It's strange that same with cows. Like that's among the alien phenomenon. They use the cow, the innards of the cow. And it's supposed that they're using that in some sort of breeding program.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (46:45)

But there is one here. So there's a theory proposed by this, this goes to what Jeremiah was talking about. Eugene McCarthy suggests that human evolution involved a cross species mating between a male pig and a female chimpanzee. So that would make them, you know, our genetic predecessors along with chimpanzees, which you know, I guess if you had a pig Get a monkey and they were gonna bang. It would probably look a lot like me afterwards.

Co-host Chris (47:13)

So here's, here's an example of.

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David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (47:16)

That's a prime example of some cross breeding. Yeah. And, and funny thing, they walk among us. When I have, when I need a kidney transplant, despite her not looking the same as me, I can, I can receive that kidney. So there is something to that. I don't know. I mean it's a fringe theory and obviously it, it's worth mentioning here that scientists heavily criticize the, the lack of credible evidence for such a thing. But it just goes to show you, like there's something about pigs. They also have an incredibly high level of intelligence, which is bizarre. You were talking about using them as police dogs or something like that. But they're very trainable. Very trainable, very intelligent. I, I don't know what's. It is kind of strange that they're inherently unclean.

Co-host Chris (47:58)

They're great pets. Yeah.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (48:00)

Because they're kind of cool. You know what I mean?

Jeremiah Skiba (48:02)

They're like dogs, I think, aren't they?

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (48:04)

Yeah. I guess we're just not supposed to eat them.

Co-host Chris (48:05)

Well, you don't eat dogs either, Nancy.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (48:07)

You don't eat pork.

Co-host Chris (48:09)

Nancy should stay quiet on this.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (48:11)

That's true. Yeah. Nancy, keep your thoughts to yourself. Yeah, I don't know.

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David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (49:00)

Well, what are. Let's talk about the unclean things that we're not supposed to eat. What are they?

Jake Skiba (49:05)

So you know, Livicus Leviticus 11 breaks down, you know, the different types of clean and unclean things. I mean the, the majority issue that westerners have is with shellfish and with pork pretty much. I mean you're not going to eat dogs. You're not going to be eating Vultures, for the most part, or lizards or snakes. But, you know, that's just kind of a general. A general explanation. But there's also a spiritual lesson behind the clean and the unclean foods. Like, for example, pigs, they, they chew the cud, which is a clean attribute, but they don't have a split hoof. And so there's actually a spiritual metaphor behind that, that whenever you apply the actual, you know, practice of not eating it, you can kind of learn these spiritual principles. For example, chewing the cud is mulling over concepts and, and topics. Right. And so whenever you, you know, actually, I, I had it backwards. The, the, the pig has the split hoof, but they don't chew the cut is what makes them unclean.

Co-host Chris (50:06)

Right.

Jake Skiba (50:07)

But, you know, there's a spiritual principle of, like, a pig outwardly looks like a, you know, clean animal because it has the split hoof, but it doesn't chew the cud. And so that means it's swallowing things without really mulling it over. And so the, the principle being, you know, you can become a spiritually unclean animal if you're just absorbing and, and consuming anything and everything. You know, pigs are one of the most intelligent animals out there. When they're hungry, they can also be very obedient. But as soon as you fill a pig's belly up, it becomes extremely obstinate. And so the concept of, like, what these clean, unclean animals would represent spiritually and. Versus what a clean animal would represent, you know, we're, we're called sheep, you know, the Good shepherd, you know, in the, in the, you know, scriptures, there's the parallel with spiritually being, you know, likened to these clean animals. And. Yeah, so, Yeah, I mean, and also there's an interesting parallel with genetic modification. So mice are also used a lot in a lot of the testing for vaccinations and, and for, like, different things. Like they grew a human ear on a mouse. A mouse one time I saw. And both the mouse and the, the swine are mentioned in Isaiah 66 as, like, being, you know, tied to, you know, some type of judgment in the end days. So, like, if you were to look at that passage in Isaiah 66, you know, those who consume swine's flesh and the mouse, the abomination. Right. And, and so, you know, I'm not here to, you know, harp on anybody because I, I definitely have had my fair share of BLTs, you know, when I was younger, but I definitely think there's a truth that the. We're, you know, our Eyes are blinded to some of these things. You know, when we. Our belly becomes our God and. Yeah. What's this?

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (52:00)

For a while. Yeah.

Jeremiah Skiba (52:03)

You guys never heard of this?

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (52:04)

Nailed the coffin shut for me. Yeah, I mean, you know, it's probably.

Co-host Chris (52:07)

What did. What did you say, Jeremiah? Sorry.

Jeremiah Skiba (52:09)

Have you guys ever heard of the Humanzi? Oliver? The Humanzi, who was like half human, half chimpanzee, and they couldn't figure it out. And I did a whole history's mysteries on it, and I could not figure out this thing walked on two legs its whole life. And it looks like a dude. Yeah, it looks like a dude.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (52:28)

Wait a second.

Co-host Chris (52:30)

This is a real.

Jeremiah Skiba (52:31)

They have video of it. Like, it's. It's. Oh, creepy.

Jake Skiba (52:34)

Oh, there's apocryphal support for humans becoming chimpanzees or apes.

Jeremiah Skiba (52:40)

Also, when I hear hybrid, that's the first thing I think of every single

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (52:44)

time is all, yeah, dude, he's kind of nightmare fuel.

Co-host Chris (52:46)

In. In which book, Jake? Oh, my God.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (52:48)

There is so.

Jake Skiba (52:49)

In the. In the book of Jasher, which is called Pseudepigrapha, but it, you know, it's really interesting. It talks about those who are at the Tower of Babel. One third of them were turned into. Into elephants and into apes as a punishment for the Tower of Babel. And so it's really interesting because I was looking at elephants, I was like, wow, this is crazy. Is this just pseudepigrapher or whatever? And elephants have breasts just like humans have breasts. But anyways, I know that's a little.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (53:20)

Elephants have breast. Yeah. You know, you'd think.

Jake Skiba (53:26)

You'd think that elephants had utters like a cow, right? But no, they have, like, boobs. Like elephants have boobs.

Jeremiah Skiba (53:33)

Yeah.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (53:33)

There was something that I saw recently where it was an X ray of the skeletal structure of a. Of an elephant's foot. And what it. To us, it looks like a tree trunk, but underneath all of that, you know, flesh and callus and all that, it is almost identical to the structure of a human foot. Which actually brought up this conversation again about. Oh, wait a second. Nancy brought up elephant breasts. And I. I really do want to see those. Let's put those elephant breasts on stage. So, and Nancy, maybe after this, you can find you remove the hideous monkey. Oh, wow.

Jeremiah Skiba (54:07)

No.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (54:09)

Damn, that ain't true.

Co-host Chris (54:11)

Are you kidding me?

Jake Skiba (54:12)

What if a whole. A whole tribe of humans at the Tower of Babel were cursed and turned into these elephants and they're just like the long lost descendants of one of the Tower of Babel people.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (54:21)

And they're so smart, too. They're so smart and they're so emotional.

Co-host Chris (54:25)

It makes the Indian pantheon make a lot more sense. Right.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (54:28)

It does. The hybridized eyes. Nancy, see if you can find the X ray of an elephant's foot and how it bears resemblance to a human's. But this. This was put. Brought up in a conversation recently.

Co-host Chris (54:38)

And I see an elephant and be

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (54:39)

like, nice tits, nice tits.

Jeremiah Skiba (54:43)

Now they're trying to bring back the woolly mammoth. And I mean, would you try. Would you try some woolly mammoth?

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (54:48)

Honestly, would I try it? Would I? Well, is that. Is that considered unclean?

Co-host Chris (54:52)

Would you sip that milk?

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (54:53)

No, no, I don't. I don't do the. Oh, here we go. Yeah, I think it's unclean. I'm not too sure. Yeah, so you see the heel bone? You see the. The toes? Yeah. Kind of scrunched up in there. It looks like.

Co-host Chris (55:07)

Looks like Nancy's foot after. Yeah.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (55:11)

When we keep her in the cage for too long and her. And her. And her feet get all messed up like they do. Yeah, man, that's an interesting thing, but I had never heard that before that, you know, I understood the concept of confusing the languages. Did you say that was an apocryphal text that said that they were sure they were turned into creatures, Chimpanzees.

Jake Skiba (55:31)

It was like there were different punishments dealt out. Like, some of them lost their identity through the language change. Some of them, it said, shot arrows up into heaven and, like, blood came out and, you know, they. They died. And then the other were turned into either apes and. Or elephants. So it's really a peculiar little verse in there that it makes me wonder, you know, could. Could. I don't know, because, I mean. What do you mean? Is known to be, like, somebody who tried to turn himself into a gibberim.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (56:01)

Right, Right.

Jake Skiba (56:01)

So he. He became a gibbor. And so I wonder if they. They were like people that were trying to, you know, do some kind of abominable works on their, you know, their bodies, and this was the result because, you know, you also have that, you know, phrase in the book of Enoch about how the wives of the watchers were turned into mermaids or sirens.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (56:24)

Right, right.

Jake Skiba (56:25)

The transformative element of punishment definitely is, you know, you can see some of that throughout some of these tests.

Co-host Chris (56:32)

You have Nebuchadnezzar as well, turning into a beast of some type.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (56:36)

Oh, yeah. He's eating grass and such.

Co-host Chris (56:39)

Yeah. What the hell happened there?

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (56:41)

Well, that makes me wonder. What do you Guys, think about Bigfoot. Real or not real. And if he is real, I've heard he isn't as tell of, you know, a big. I've heard tell of a tale. A Bigfoot identified itself as a. There was a specific word, and I forget it every time, but it was

Co-host Chris (57:10)

close to Elohim, right?

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (57:11)

It was Eliud. Eliud, which is. Which is a fascinating. And I believe it's like, you know, sort of a descendant of a Nephilim.

Co-host Chris (57:18)

It's like a denomination of. You have Nephilim, Rafa gibberim. And then there's like, Eliud somewhere down the line.

Jake Skiba (57:25)

Right.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (57:25)

If you were to look at a. Like a big, you know, family tree. So. So Bigfoot, yay or nay?

Jeremiah Skiba (57:31)

I don't know. I want to believe so bad in Bigfoot, but, I mean, they've never found a full dead Bigfoot either. They just live forever. Like my dad, apparently, to the. That Jew guy. Or.

Co-host Chris (57:48)

Wait, is he Jewish?

Jeremiah Skiba (57:50)

I don't know. I don't know if he's Jewish.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (57:52)

No, no. I love how Jeremiah's like, well, let's. I. I want to, you know, be easy here and be reasonable. This guy's saying, you're dead. But he's. He's still like. I just want to be careful here.

Co-host Chris (58:02)

He loves the Jews and their lies.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (58:04)

Oh, my God. Okay, okay.

Jeremiah Skiba (58:05)

That was written by Martin Luther. That's interesting, by the way.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (58:09)

I know you're saying you want to believe. If you would have told me, you know, somewhere out there there's an elephant with lady tits. Now I'm a believer.

Co-host Chris (58:18)

So nobody's selling elephant milk?

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (58:21)

No,

Jeremiah Skiba (58:23)

I gotta see it for myself.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (58:25)

It's thick. It's thick.

Jake Skiba (58:26)

I think Bigfoot. Bigfoot is just the psyop to distract us from Nephilim because I think Bigfoot is like the modern. Oh, you know, there's these giant things out there, but really, I think it's just. It's likely these, like, Nephilim tribes that are, you know, you know, getting cited. And they're probably just big hairy people, you know, just wandering in the Amazon or something. They come out, they're covered in fur.

Jeremiah Skiba (58:51)

Do they have tits?

Jake Skiba (58:52)

And.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (58:53)

Yeah, I mean, he's asking the real questions. All right, so I want to share this.

Co-host Chris (59:03)

Oh, by the way, Jeremiah, I wanted to show you because I showed Jake.

Jake Skiba (59:07)

Hold on.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (59:07)

Don't show off the Jeremy.

Jeremiah Skiba (59:09)

Whatever.

Co-host Chris (59:09)

Yeah, I'm gonna show him because. All right, I was really jealous of your skull, so I made my own.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (59:13)

Yeah.

Co-host Chris (59:14)

My own skull. And this one's super.

Jeremiah Skiba (59:16)

Epic. Can you wear that on your head?

Co-host Chris (59:19)

No, no, it's. It's. Dude, no. It's just a thing.

Jeremiah Skiba (59:22)

That would be a cool hat. I'm not gonna lie. You could go to Disneyland and you could wear that and people would be like, what is that? And then you could like.

Co-host Chris (59:29)

Oh yeah.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (59:29)

It's part of the. He's part of the thing. The mouse that never dies. I have. So wait, where is it? Here.

Co-host Chris (59:35)

It's actually a great idea. Like beanies. Like that. Like.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (59:39)

Oh man, that would be dope. So I have this. This is from a trail cam supposedly. And. And I honestly would not have thought much about it.

Co-host Chris (59:47)

Look at Jeremiah. He's got the real skull. He's got the real nascus skull. He's about on us.

Jake Skiba (59:51)

Oh, there it is.

Jeremiah Skiba (59:52)

I just wanted to show. This is a female one. I think the male ones up there is too far to reach. I'll knock.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (59:57)

Would you say this is a male?

Co-host Chris (59:59)

Yeah.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (59:59)

What do you think about that one? Completely unatomic.

Co-host Chris (60:01)

Would that one have to.

Jeremiah Skiba (60:02)

Because I love you guys. I'm gonna say it's a. It's a male.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (60:05)

Nice.

Jeremiah Skiba (60:06)

Female. Whatever.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (60:08)

No, I think the fat hog makes it better. Oh yeah. Fat hog or elephant tits. You pick. So we have this image here and this has been going viral. And I wouldn't have given it much credence.

Co-host Chris (60:17)

I saw this recently.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (60:18)

Yeah. But for some reason it won't go away.

Co-host Chris (60:20)

Also. Yeah. Bigfoot.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (60:21)

So just to mention 284,000 shares. 2,000 likes.

Co-host Chris (60:26)

Must be real.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (60:26)

People are going, this is real.

Co-host Chris (60:28)

Bigfoot sightings in Ohio specifically are like through the roof for some reason.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (60:31)

Did you guys see that? Bigfoot sightings in Ohio. It was reported by the local police. In a four day span they had eight to nine sightings.

Jeremiah Skiba (60:41)

I didn't see that. Wow, that's crazy.

Jake Skiba (60:43)

I live in the part of Kentucky that is like a big spot. Bigfoot hotspot. And there is a diner just down the road from me called. It's like Sluggos or whatever. And they were Bigfoot. It was a. Yeah, they were a Bigfoot diner.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (60:59)

And.

Jake Skiba (60:59)

And at every table they would have a little brochure. You could fill out your Bigfoot siding and drop it in a box after you ate at the diner. But yeah, I've never seen Bigfoot myself. But I. I am a big foot. A big fan of Sack Squatch. You guys seen Sack Squatch?

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (61:17)

I loved.

Jeremiah Skiba (61:17)

I love that channel.

Jake Skiba (61:18)

Dude, Sack Squatch is so amazing, man.

Jeremiah Skiba (61:21)

It's a YouTube channel.

Jake Skiba (61:23)

We have to check out you should look at.

Jeremiah Skiba (61:24)

Look it up. It is awesome.

Co-host Chris (61:26)

Dude, is this pornography?

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (61:28)

This feels like we're being led into something. Like they. Well, they're just like. You'd really like it. Yeah, you really, really like.

Jeremiah Skiba (61:33)

When I first saw it, I. I didn't think I'd like it, but it's. He's a cool dude.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (61:38)

That doesn't clarify anything, dog. What are we. What are we typing in?

Jeremiah Skiba (61:42)

Playing the saxophone.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (61:44)

Oh, that's it. All right.

Co-host Chris (61:47)

That I can get down.

Jeremiah Skiba (61:48)

Hey, we should have bought him the Truth or Con and Brohemian Grove.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (61:51)

Oh, that's what we should do, by the way, is get a. Well, it's going to be August in Florida. I don't think anybody's gonna.

Co-host Chris (61:56)

Timothy Alvarino will be there.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (61:57)

No. Oh, well, we're not going to elaborate on that right now. I wanna. I want to show you guys this. This video and. And get your thoughts on it.

Co-host Chris (62:07)

Let's.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (62:07)

Let's check this out. Bring it up on. There it is.

Jeremiah Skiba (62:10)

You just scroll around some more, Eric.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (62:14)

You can tell it's real because it's blinking.

Jeremiah Skiba (62:16)

I think it's gonna jump out at me. Is it? No, I don't want to get any

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (62:20)

closer video to you guys.

Co-host Chris (62:24)

This is fake as.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (62:25)

Dude, no, this is super real, dude. No, no, no, no, no.

Jeremiah Skiba (62:29)

This is real, dude. I think I. I think Grock could. Could have made that.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (62:34)

No, this is not. Grock would never do that.

Jeremiah Skiba (62:36)

What do you think, Jake?

Jake Skiba (62:38)

I think it's just a bunch of black guys trying to get into homesteading.

Co-host Chris (62:43)

They actually do have their own town, so.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (62:45)

What?

Co-host Chris (62:46)

They do?

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (62:47)

Yeah.

Co-host Chris (62:47)

There's like a black town that does

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (62:49)

homesteading that seems irresponsible.

Co-host Chris (62:50)

In Georgia. Wow.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (62:53)

I'm just saying. I think. I don't know, man. I think this might be. This might be real. It's real. I just. I. I'm hopeful. I. I also. And I don't know what it is, I want Bigfoot to be real the same way Jeremiah wants it. I want to believe, and I want to believe that he's much more than just a monkey. That there is something that. It's like people run into him. He does telepathy, which is fun. You know, he seems to have dog man on a short leash where he. He can threaten people with dog man. You guys familiar with dog Man?

Jeremiah Skiba (63:28)

A little bit.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (63:30)

Right. So there's this.

Jake Skiba (63:31)

Bigfoot's little brother.

Jeremiah Skiba (63:33)

Well, what about the Humanzi that. That could be proof of.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (63:36)

I don't think he. I don't think they. I don't think they, they really with the humanzi. I think they kind of pushed him off to the side. Dogman's kind of like humanity is like, kind of disturbing.

Jeremiah Skiba (63:47)

He's got a nose, dude. It's creepy. I've never seen him.

Co-host Chris (63:51)

I don't like it.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (63:52)

It is disturbing, but I don't like it.

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David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (64:39)

We.

Jake Skiba (64:40)

We're.

Co-host Chris (64:40)

We're on. I mean, we're talking about Bigfoot, but we're kind of on the precipice of, of disclosure from the government talking about aliens and UFOs. Where are you guys at on this? I'm sure you guys been paying attention and covering this.

Jeremiah Skiba (64:54)

I don't know. I. I think they come out. They definitely come out of the ocean. That's my personal opinion, but I think it's all a. I mean, they're just distracting us.

Jake Skiba (65:04)

The. The congressman that. The video that's been circulating of the congressman who's like, yeah, yeah. What they disclosed to me would upend the whole western world. You guys are. You should be glad you don't know what they're breeding. You know?

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (65:15)

Come on.

Jake Skiba (65:16)

He's. He's like. Also, by the way, I'm not suicidal. You know, that video has been going around the past week. It's. It's really interesting. And I think what it is, is they've been making all these monstrosities down in laboratories.

Jeremiah Skiba (65:29)

Yeah.

Jake Skiba (65:29)

And. And he's finding out about these cross human hybrids of some. Some kind of abominable nature. And, you know, it's probably pretty freaky, you know.

Jeremiah Skiba (65:38)

Well, it's like, are they gonna crash? You know, there. It's, it's I. They could dig that alien up in Aurora and know if aliens are real or not.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (65:49)

Well, here, let's bring this up because I do have something to say about this. This is the congressman who's, Who's It's a short clip. It's only a minute long. And I think it's worth showing the audience.

Jake Skiba (65:59)

So here, let's play Roswell, Area 51, Wright Patterson down in Dayton, my home state of Ohio. We've been hearing about this stuff now for 70 years.

Jeremiah Skiba (66:08)

That we have it.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (66:09)

We don't have it.

Jake Skiba (66:10)

That we've re engineered it.

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David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (66:12)

I know you can't talk about much

Jake Skiba (66:14)

because you're an active member, but just

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (66:16)

give me a wink.

Jake Skiba (66:17)

Are we alone?

Jeremiah Skiba (66:19)

No. No, we're not. We're not.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (66:21)

Holy. Wait a minute.

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Did you.

Jake Skiba (66:23)

Did I just.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (66:24)

Guys, did we just break that?

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David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (66:26)

Is that April Fools today?

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David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (66:28)

No, no, it's second.

Jeremiah Skiba (66:30)

No, we. We are not alone.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (66:32)

We don't make all them movies up just because somebody's creative.

Co-host Chris (66:37)

They're gonna unveil Michael Jackson.

Jeremiah Skiba (66:39)

Yeah.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (66:41)

I don't know why the sound just dropped out on this thing.

Co-host Chris (66:43)

I took. I took it off.

Jake Skiba (66:44)

Oh. Oh.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (66:45)

Well, the part that I wanted to show.

Co-host Chris (66:47)

Oh, sorry.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (66:47)

Is. No, it didn't restart it just had like a weird cut in it. But there's something that I want to show that this guy says that I think is super ridiculous.

Jeremiah Skiba (66:54)

Okay, I'll just leave it at that

Co-host Chris (66:55)

as a mating, because I believe.

Jeremiah Skiba (66:58)

Yeah, I'll just leave it at that. Let me leave you with this one.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (67:03)

Okay.

Jeremiah Skiba (67:04)

I was in a meeting and I'll

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (67:07)

just leave it at that as a meeting because I have a lot.

Jeremiah Skiba (67:10)

Yeah.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (67:10)

And if they told. If.

Jeremiah Skiba (67:14)

If that was allowed to be told in the public, it would.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (67:20)

The wheels would come off. They would come off about. Because every detractor was put in their place.

Jeremiah Skiba (67:30)

I'll just leave it at that.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (67:32)

So I don't know what that means. Every detractor was put in their place. But the thing that I'm trying to highlight here is that this old feeble man seems to think that the rest of the country can't handle knowing what he knows. That's the part that really is confusing to me is like this guy has been queued into some information that's so damning that the wheels would fall off the country if everybody else knew what he. How are. How is this guy built to be able to internalize this information but nobody else?

Jeremiah Skiba (68:02)

He thinks we're retarded.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (68:03)

Crazy notion, isn't it?

Jeremiah Skiba (68:05)

Yep.

Jake Skiba (68:05)

I think he's been hand selected because he's such a plain Jane that they know he's not gonna, you know, flip the script and expose what I guess he's been shown. You Know, he's just, he's a toe the. Toe the line type individual. And, and he's saying even he's having trouble sleep at night.

Jeremiah Skiba (68:23)

So if you believe them.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (68:26)

Yeah, if you believe him. And, and also, you know, to your point, toeing the line, he's just a normal kind of underwhelming guy. So whatever narrative they're going to feed him, he's going to run with that narrative and he'll do things like this where he, you know, kind of baits the public. And then if they ever decide that the leash is off and he's now allowed to share what he's learned, he's only going to share whatever version of the narrative that they've given him is to the public. But it's just a ridiculous. We keep getting these people over and over again. And look, I think the entire thing is a gigantic deception. They've been, you know, priming the public with their opinions via the propaganda machine Hollywood for the longest time. So that whenever this thing does come, the narrative that they're going to feed us is the one that we're going to accept because we've been conditioned to. But outside of that, imagine not having the wherewithal. And it's not just this guy. So many people that sound the same, that look the same. If you knew the things that I knew, the public would lose their mind. What, what makes you, what are you? Some steel vault, some impenetrable mind that can contain knowledge, that would shatter the very fabric of, of, you know, society and culture as we know it. Like, that's a hilarious notion. Like everything that I've learned. Yeah. Everybody can handle this. If I can handle it, you can handle it. You just gotta kind of go through the proper channels and, and, and, you know, have the information broken to you the right way. But this idea that if the public knew, everything would fall apart. Like, you're not falling apart. You're doing an interview right now and you're laughing about, you know, all the different little cute jokes and everything that you're using. It's, it's just, to me, it's, it's, it's like an ego driven.

Co-host Chris (70:08)

The nature of occulted knowledge, isn't it?

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (70:11)

I guess so, yeah. Like, I know a secret thing. Thank goodness. I know the President.

Jeremiah Skiba (70:15)

You know, I know the President and he told me. But you can't.

Jake Skiba (70:19)

The timing of it too, the timing of it is just sheer overwhelming force of crazy things in the world. Like we got World War iii, we got the Epstein files, and oh, Alien Disclosure. I mean, why didn't they tell us Alien Closure back when they were trying to storm Area 51, you know, a couple years ago? I mean.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (70:36)

Yeah.

Jake Skiba (70:36)

Why are they waiting on us right now that the world is falling apart? I think it's just because they are intending to mislead and deceive with whatever comes onto the world stage. And, you know, always have a skeptic in the back of the room is what I'm saying. Because whatever, you know, whatever they present it as, I already know not to trust the government. I already know not to buy their narrative. And it seems like they're teeing up for a big narrative, whatever it is. Well, did you guys see they bought the website Alien? It was like alien.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (71:11)

Yeah.

Co-host Chris (71:11)

And aliens.gov as well, for, for veracity. But it's, it's interesting, right, because we are on this the day after Chris Bledsoe's predictions all kind of go to.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (71:23)

Yep.

Co-host Chris (71:23)

And a lot of this stuff he was predicting to play out by now. Now they move the date forward again, but we still have the date of, like, early May. I think that Trump is set to

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (71:33)

do some sort of disclosure, allegedly May 1. I've seen that get pushed back as far as June, though, just like in this season of Close but no cigar. You know, it's like almost. But a couple months from then. And it's, it's on these really big topics. I mean, yeah, I think that something is, is going to come down the pipe, you know, and just to keep it 100 with everybody, it's, it's a deception. But I mean, we, we have this, this film, Spielberg film Disclosure Day. Right. Coming up. Which, by the way, for, for those of you that are listening, we have been kicking around the idea of renting out the local theater and doing a private viewing with only NDs, like, you know, listeners, Watchers, Disclosure Day. So if that's something that you guys are into, let us know in the, in the chat or on the Patreon. But it feels like they are. There's this big head. You know, you talked about the war with Iran and Israel, and then, you know, you, you have all the prophetic language surrounding that Donald Trump is allegedly anointed by God and that this is a holy war, it's going to bring about the second coming of Christ. All this crazy language. And then, yeah, among the chaos is Alien disclosure. I don't feel as though this is, you know, how some people go, they're, they're doing this to distract you from the Epstein files. I don't think that's what's going on. I actually think that we're coming to a head and that this is going to be a big. Something bigger. Something bigger. That's my opinion. What do you guys.

Jake Skiba (73:04)

They're all intertwined. It's probably all intertwined because we know with the Epstein files, the Zoro Ranch stuff coming out is that they were super into genetic modification and, and pro, like advancing human genetics, kind of like Nazi Germany, but with their weird, you know, and also to prolong life. So it's all tied to the original lies of the Garden Eden.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (73:24)

Right.

Jake Skiba (73:25)

You'll be as, as God, you know, you'll live forever. You know, all these lies that are being pushed right now are transhumanism, it's the 2040 agenda. It's, you know, all these different things. And so I think the alien disclosure thing is one a cover up for the genetic abominations they're probably creating in laboratories.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (73:45)

Yeah.

Jake Skiba (73:46)

Because I, I do think there's a precedence that throughout the scriptures, when an angel would show up, they would take human form. And so I do think it's possible that there are human looking cross breeds and stuff. But I also think that they're super into like taking, you know, a pig and inseminating a human into the pig and creating this, you know, monstrosity or whatever. So, you know, I think we're going to see a lot of that, a lot of the different spectrum of things kind of coming to life.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (74:16)

Because that's the case with like Dogman. That this is some sort of a genetic chimeric abomination. Yeah. And that they're using it to potentially even guard sensitive locations as far as military intelligence bases go. Well, what do you guys think about the idea that J.D. vance just came out the other day and, and just to lay the groundwork for this, I think that the aliens are a demonic deception. I think you're absolutely over the target. There are hybrid, you know, monstrosities that are being created. But the, the forces that are in opposition to God, in opposition to humanity and that are deceptive in nature have been working at this for a really long time. So we're going to see a lot of different things I think at play. It's going to be hard to say it's one thing in particular. That being said, I think you can safely label the entire phenomenon as demonic. But when J.D. vance comes out and he goes, I think aliens are demons, it kind of muddies the water a little bit. I'm like, I agree, but I Don't really agree with you. J.D. vance. What do you guys think about that?

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Jeremiah Skiba (76:10)

Yeah, I, I agree like I used to. I mean, I will always support the President of the United States, but I can't right now. Like, it's like I can't just with what's going on. And the same thing with J.D. vance. Like, he'll say some, some real good stuff and then he'll ruin it. And it's like he wants war. They all want war. And then, and then they'll say something good. So they want to say something just to, you know, to, I don't know, to make you feel better.

Jake Skiba (76:34)

Yeah, it's controlling the narrative too. Because if they are going to do some kind of disclosure, J.D. vance probably wants to be like, oh yeah, I'm the one who told everybody, you know, through my little sly comment that it's demons. When the disclosure happens and it, it shows empirical evidence proving that it's some kind of spiritual, you know, manifestation. Then he can be like, oh yeah, I'm, I'm the guy who was telling everybody. And I think it's a little bit to guide the narrative. And also it's, it's the, it's the truthers of the modern age that are kind of the, they want certain gatekeepers to be, you know, over the information as they release it. And, you know, we can definitely see who they're giving the interviews to, who's going to be in the forefront when they're releasing this information. And, and it's a control mechanism.

Jeremiah Skiba (77:24)

Also have you have the interview with Theo Vaughn that he did before he was vice president, and he was like, we need to get those Epstein files out. And then it just never happened. It's like you let so many people down, but then you're gonna, you know, tell us something that we want to hear. That's all they're gonna do.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (77:39)

Yeah, this is why I make a habit. I don't, I don't engage with politics in any meaningful way outside of ridiculing it. And I don't make these people any sort of like heroes. I don't put my hope in them just because, you know, you watch over and over again along party lines. They'll use a topic that's meaningful to people just to garner votes, and then they get in the office and they drop the ball. It seems that the new party line topics are conspiracy theories. And that kind of happened, you know, 2020 and onward after Covid kind of started in 2016.

Co-host Chris (78:12)

I mean, yeah, he got elected basically by calling Obama, you know what, like that his versus he was fake. And that's a conspiracy theory that God got him into the forefront of what's happening here. So it's only snowballed and now we're here. Now we're dealing with these huge conspiracy theories. And they're, they're giving us like a weird show and dance, right? Like, they'll give us some information and then they'll affirm you in some ways. But I think a lot of it, like, like you guys were saying, is to earn your trust.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (78:41)

Yeah, it feels like the carrot on the string. But for him, it went from Democrats and Republicans and then a third party emerged and it wasn't libertarians or anything else. It was, it was actually conspiracy theories. And they started to. What's the word?

Co-host Chris (78:58)

Placate.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (78:59)

Placate to our top. You know, if you're a Republican, it's anti abortion and, and whatever your, your values are. If you're Democrat, it's, you know, reproductive rights, whatever your values are. We have our own values as conspiracy theorists. They placated towards them. We're now the new political party.

Jeremiah Skiba (79:20)

Well, that's why I'm officially running for President of the United States.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (79:23)

Let's go.

Co-host Chris (79:24)

Oh, you heard it here?

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (79:26)

For real?

Jeremiah Skiba (79:27)

I don't know. Maybe. Maybe.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (79:30)

You know how the. So for the conspiracy theorist party, you know how it's like Republicans have an elephant. Yeah, we have an elephant with tits.

Jeremiah Skiba (79:38)

Hey, I like that. Or the nephilim. The Nephilim head.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (79:42)

Yeah, yeah. It's an elephant with something like a

Jeremiah Skiba (79:44)

blend between the two. A hybrid.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (79:45)

We had the same thing happen, though. Matt Gates. What did Matt Gates just come out and say?

Co-host Chris (79:50)

And the funny, the funny thing too is like the commonality between these two interviews has been one gay dude named Benny Johnson. So that is your media talking head that is going to present us what we're supposed to believe. But, yeah, Matt Gates was. He was out there talking about a hybrid alien breeding program, which, again, I want to go, but I think it's legit.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (80:14)

No, I mean, there's definitely a. I think what's going to happen is as we move forward in time, we're going to see a lot more truth come out and it's going to be co opted by people that are trying to. They're like these sanctified talking heads that they want to remain in control. But there's a flow of information that I don't think you can stop. The best thing that you can do is place yourself at the top of that narrative as it gets revealed.

Co-host Chris (80:35)

What do you think your dad would think about this?

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (80:37)

Yeah, that's a fascinating question.

Jeremiah Skiba (80:38)

Yeah, well, I, I do know that he voted for Trump in 2016 because I think he could, could see that the country. I don't know. I think he thought it was funny or something. I don't know. I really don't know why.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (80:51)

I really respect that. That's great.

Jeremiah Skiba (80:53)

Yeah. I mean, I thought it, I thought that it was fascinating watching the debates. Like, it made it fun to watch with Trump. Yeah. Nobody ever thought he would get in, but then he did. But. And I, I'm not gonna lie, I, I am. I used to be a Trump fan. I mean, Jake knows and I have all this memorabilia, but I don't know what he would think right now. And I wish he was here to tell me.

Co-host Chris (81:15)

Well, I mean, isn't he.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (81:17)

Oh, that's right. Ask Flat Earth Dave.

Co-host Chris (81:19)

That's right.

Jeremiah Skiba (81:20)

The fittest Flat Earther.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (81:22)

Oh, that's right. I'm sorry, I don't want to besmirch Flat Earth Dave.

Jeremiah Skiba (81:25)

Flatter Dave is great. You should have on Flatter Dave.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (81:28)

But maybe one of these days we will. But, you know, I think that's a great question because so many of the things that your dad was talking about, they're on full display now. Like, it wasn't really like that. 2020, 2021. We had our own battle going on

Co-host Chris (81:41)

and it happened to me.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (81:42)

Oh, you got blurry.

Jeremiah Skiba (81:43)

Yeah.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (81:43)

So shout out blurry creatures. But we had our own battles going on with COVID and with, you know, vaccinations and all those things. It did get really crazy. But now we've entered this season where it's like they're saying Nephilim. You know, Candace Owens is talking about the Nephilim.

Co-host Chris (82:00)

Yes. Candace Owens covered your dad.

Jeremiah Skiba (82:02)

And then I sent an email back to her, like, hey, he was Murdered by the medical system. And then she, she brought it up on the show and dedicated half of her show to my dad's research.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (82:13)

And I was like, how crazy is that?

Jeremiah Skiba (82:15)

What does this mean? Like, are you trying to tell me something? God, you know, where do you put that?

Co-host Chris (82:22)

Because it's like, like for you, I. Man, for me, that would make me definitely biased toward Candace, but I'm still very suspicious of the things that she's doing.

Jeremiah Skiba (82:33)

So my wife is a. Have I told you the story about when she first said my, my dad's name? My wife. When my wife. No. So she loves Candace. So she would come. She comes home. She's a teacher. She's one of the good teachers. Teacher. She's not like a trans teacher, I would hope. But she watches Candace every time she gets home. She goes downstairs, she watches the. And she started screaming, like, screaming. And I thought there was like a guy, like somebody had broken into the house. I came downstairs and my box with my gun. And I was like, what's going on?

Co-host Chris (83:06)

First problem, Jeremiah. And she was, gotta do T shirt,

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (83:10)

no boxes, dick out and gun.

Jeremiah Skiba (83:12)

Yeah.

Co-host Chris (83:13)

Yes, but you're close.

Jeremiah Skiba (83:14)

Next time, though. Next time. But yeah, I went down there and she just couldn't speak. She was just pointing at the screen and I looked at it and it said Rob Skiba. And I was like, oh my gosh, she about to read that. And then she read it and then, and then I sent her a follow up email. And then, I mean, she said she would reach back out to me, but you know how these people are, they don't reach back out. But I kind of, I don't. I think it's. Most men don't really trust everything she's saying, but it's kind of hard to disprove some of her theories because they make more sense than what the feds are giving us. Does that make sense? Right? Yeah.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (83:51)

Yeah, I think it's. It, you know, the solution to that is once again not putting your faith in an individual. Like, like I, I talk about this. My favorite example is Alex Jones. It's like, this is a guy who says that his family is CIA. And this is a guy who, you know, reasonable doubt would have. You go, he's been saying this for a really long time. You think somebody hasn't threatened him and tried to control him? And there's so many conspiracies about him being controlled. And I go, doesn't matter. He's a great guy, funny guy, really entertaining, good information. You should never follow a human Being as if they're. Jesus Christ. So I look over to Alex Jones and I go, yeah, I don't know. I like that guy. I'd like to have a beer with him or something like that.

Co-host Chris (84:33)

I think with all these people that have reached a certain level of, like, following or influence in the space, a lot of them like Tucker Carlson.

Jake Skiba (84:41)

I.

Co-host Chris (84:41)

Some people don't like him. I really like Tucker Carlson.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (84:43)

I don't like when he does the laugh.

Co-host Chris (84:44)

I like his laugh.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (84:45)

The laugh is so maniac.

Co-host Chris (84:46)

What I like the most about. Yeah. Yeah, it's great. Whoa. He's bringing a lot of, like. He's saying a lot of things that are true, but I am watching him like a hawk because those. Those people, right. They have a lot of influence, and they could take that and just turn on a dime.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (85:04)

Yeah.

Co-host Chris (85:04)

And we know who we worked for previously. So I. I also got a question, like, was that breakup legitimate or is this sort of a play at. At garnering a separate audience? Like, I'm a conspiracy theorist, so.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (85:16)

Yeah, but.

Co-host Chris (85:17)

But they bring really great information.

Jeremiah Skiba (85:20)

Yeah.

Co-host Chris (85:20)

And I'm not gonna discard them.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (85:23)

Like, I look at Candace Owens and I go, man, she looks fun. Yeah, she seems fun, dude. Like, she seems like mom was all about it.

Jeremiah Skiba (85:30)

She loved Candace about the transvestigations and stuff. My mom was, like, really deep into Candace, and she was all about it, and she. She.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (85:39)

I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I think you just got to check yourself when you start looking to a person like they're going to solve. Like, if you start looking at Donald Trump, you know, and. And you think he's going to solve all the issues. You made a mistake. You made a mistake, and you just got to reorient and realize, like, no, man. Like, that's not whatever the will you got up in.

Co-host Chris (85:55)

You know, they go, I voted for Donald Trump because he said, no more new wars. And then we do a war. And they go, well, you know, this one is.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (86:01)

And it's like, no, dude.

Co-host Chris (86:03)

Yeah, you've gone too far. You've, like, you're following the man and not what he was doing at the time.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (86:08)

Yeah, there's an idea that's good, and that's. That's as far as it needs to go.

Jake Skiba (86:14)

It's also the.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (86:15)

The.

Jake Skiba (86:15)

The scare, the. That there's a guilt by association thing, because, you know, Candace, it's cool that she brought up Rob and that she's introducing his stuff to people, but all of the Conservative Party that hates her guts if they see that correlation there, they're like, oh, she's a crazy conspiracy nut. Then if whenever she brings up good points or good topics, then they throw the baby out with the bathwater because she's the conspiracy scapegoat.

Jeremiah Skiba (86:42)

Right?

Jake Skiba (86:43)

And I think that's the big concern about the role she's playing is she does the transvestigations. And, and some of them might be true, but some of them might be just really mean to an ugly woman.

Jeremiah Skiba (86:53)

Right.

Jake Skiba (86:54)

But you know, so, well, here's, I

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (86:56)

think there's the concern. So those people, they aren't intelligent enough to realize that that's kind of a logical fallacy, right? So how many people could have looked to Saul, like who, you know, Paul, and go, oh, this guy's on about Jesus Christ, like this guy's a murderer and a, in a, you know, a piece of. And it's like, okay, yeah, yeah. But that has nothing to do with the information that's being imparted. You know what I mean? So there's like this idea that, let's say even Alex Jones, when he was talking about COVID and he goes, quinine is a close cousin of hydroxychloroquine, it's in tonic water.

Co-host Chris (87:37)

100 accurate information. Thank you for that. But because he's Alex Jones, it's discarded by the mainstream.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (87:43)

Right.

Co-host Chris (87:44)

You know, same thing with Ivermectin and Joe Rogan. Right?

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (87:46)

Joe.

Co-host Chris (87:46)

Joe Rogan is a conspiracy. Look at him, he's green over here. It's like, well, this actually seems to have some veracity to it. Let's look more into it. And I, I understand what you're saying. A lot of people are going to write it off because of the messenger, but that's kind of, that's the nature of what we're doing.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (87:59)

And, and that's a mistake. That's a mistake that I think.

Co-host Chris (88:03)

But it's part of, it's part of that development, right? So people are going to make that mistake and then they'll say, oh, Rob Skiba, because he's mentioned by Candace.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (88:10)

Yeah.

Co-host Chris (88:11)

But down the line you're gonna have to actually look at the information that's being presented by Rob Skiba and see what's being said there. And when they do, then different conclusions will be drawn. So it's, it's a double edged sword, right? You're going to be slandered because you're associated with somebody who has now been slandered by the media. But in the other, on the other side of that like you mentioned, I, it's hard.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (88:31)

I, I get it. It's an emotional response, especially if you really don't like a character which, you know, there's all kinds of really inflammatory characters in our space. But I've learned to try to take people on a, on a point by point basis and it's, it's, it's just like detaching from, from whatever emotions I have about the person, you know, so if they say something that's fascinating, I go, that's fascinating. They say something that's stupid, I go, that's stupid. But like every individual on Earth is going to say things that are true and things that are, you know, monstrously wrong at any given time in their 80 to 90 years on this planet. It's a mistake. And I, you know, there's.

Co-host Chris (89:08)

Hold on. I think Jeremiah was about to end. Yeah, because I saw, I was gonna

Jeremiah Skiba (89:11)

say we put out a short of Candace Owens and so many people were showing us love and all this and then like it kind of died down for a little bit. And then all these bots came out of nowhere and were hating on Candace Owens. It's like they follow her wherever she goes, like, and it's like, it'd be like a month later and people start hating on it. And it's like, I thought this was, you know, kind of veering off and it's like, it's so weird. Like social media is so weird. And I had to learn it while doing this, like doing the show. I don't know how to social media, but I figured it out. That's our family slogan. May not know what we're doing, but we'll figure it out.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (89:46)

You know, did you guys see the way that it went for her on Skiba?

Co-host Chris (89:50)

Means we don't know what we're doing. Figure it out.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (89:52)

We'll figure it out. It kind of sounds very similar to what we're doing.

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David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (90:57)

I noticed something that happened on Twitter with Candace was like, overwhelmingly, these new talking heads, you know, not necessarily mainstream media, but alternative media, are all using the term demon with her. She's a demon. She's a demon. Like, over and over and over again. To the extent that it was like, that's a weird. Like, that's a very specific word.

Co-host Chris (91:18)

Obvious. Paid operation.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (91:19)

It's Operation Mockingbird.

Co-host Chris (91:21)

I mean, but we saw this a number of times.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (91:23)

One.

Co-host Chris (91:24)

One that comes to mind was when this was, like, less nefarious, but it was like a testing ground. The soda companies, that.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (91:30)

That was weird.

Co-host Chris (91:31)

There was, like, a law that was targeting soda companies at some point, and all of these mainstream influencers clearly got paid. And they all said the same thing. And their thing is never to talk about Coca Cola. Yeah. But all of a sudden, they're all tweeting, verbatim, why, Coca Cola is great. And I'm like, holy, what happened here? Yeah, you know, it's a strange one.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (91:49)

So I think she was the victim of an actual paid, concerted effort to. To turn the public off from her. And, you know, she's saying a lot of interesting things, even with the Charlie Kirk stuff. That's right quick. And a lot of the things that she's saying are. Makes it sound like they were part of these, like, MK Ultra Gates program, gifted and talented, sort of a thing like both her and Charlie, and I don't know what to make of that.

Co-host Chris (92:17)

She said she drank purple drink, and he had the. The pink stuff.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (92:20)

Did she say that? Because that's very funny, that she drank purple drink. Black woman. But. Well, I know. I just wanted people if they didn't get it. So people get really upset when they hear that. Right. They're like. They're just saying, oh, Candace Owens is in fantasy land. But as somebody who I guess operates professionally in fantasy land, I look and I go, I don't know. A lot of the things she's saying, that's testimony that individuals who've been through these programs are saying. So I don't know what that means. I don't know if she was selected from childhood, if Charlie Kirk was selected from childhood. What do you guys think about that?

Jake Skiba (92:53)

There was something really interesting about the texts that were being released right after Charlie Kirk's assassination. Well, he was associating himself with Moses and he was telling Candace Owens in a text, he was like, you can be my David. You can like fight for me. And they were like interpreting themselves in, as these biblical characters on the modern world stage. It was really weird and kind of esoteric sounding. And, and then I was like, oh, man. And then there was that whole like, like cycle of J.D. vance and, and Erica Kirk, like, romance thing. And I was like, oh, that was weird. What if, you know, what if J.D. vance was the David and Charlie Kirk was the Uriah of the story and they, they had intended to, you know, pair up JD Vance and Erica because there was all this drama between J.D. vance and his wife. But then all the conspiracy theorists caught on to the, the neck grab and the, the intimate moments and, and they, they had to abort mission. Right. Because they were setting J.D. vance to marry up the.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (94:00)

Yeah.

Jake Skiba (94:01)

Into the Turning Point usa and they're going to create this whole Christian veneer kind of conservative movement. And to me, it's just like that's what the Turning Point USA thing represents. It's like the conservative Party separate from the conspiracy party. That's what they're doing is they're trying to create this entity. And, and that's, to me what kind of off about this whole thing is. You know, we're friends with Bryson Gray, for example, and you know, he shared some of the ins and outs of how some of the, you know, the, the politics work. And the reason Bryson Gray's music is not invited to Turning Point USA events is because he's so outwardly spoken against homosexuality. But then you have this kind of Christian, you know, Peter Thiel conservative veneer where they're openly homosexual men promoting Christianity. And so we have this, this push and pull between the entity that's being set up with the new Turning Point USA Christian, you know, let's bring God back into the state like Trump's been talking about. But what they're representing is this really weird, controlled, non conspiratorial conservative movement. And, you know, it's just, it's really fascinating like why, you know, certain people are being propped up and why Candace Owen is, is becoming this scapegoat for conspiracy theory land. And they were friends. They're turning, you know, it's. Yeah, it's, it is. There's something to it. It's definitely fishy.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (95:36)

Yeah, it's a soap opera.

Co-host Chris (95:39)

Can we just say, like, I guess the death of whatever the current church is. Thank God that it's happening now as we were talking about at the top of the episode, because that's what this TPUSA Republican party conservative sort of idea is going to move into this churchianity. They're going to rebrand the politics and Christian like and create some.

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David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (96:43)

Churchianity.

Co-host Chris (96:44)

Churchyanity.

Jeremiah Skiba (96:46)

Yeah.

Co-host Chris (96:46)

Okay. All right. Write that down.

Jeremiah Skiba (96:49)

Put my face on it.

Co-host Chris (96:51)

Yeah, that's actually. That's a banger. Banger.

Jake Skiba (96:53)

Yeah.

Co-host Chris (96:54)

Yeah, but they're. They're trying to formulate this, like, religion and state thing from the. From the right wing. And yeah, I think they're doing it. This is the only time for them to do it realistically because the culture wasn't right before, but they have a very limited time frame because it's dying like people.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (97:10)

That's what I can say.

Co-host Chris (97:11)

Yeah, they're catching on to the grift, I guess.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (97:14)

It's not even just the grift. It's also the fact that, like, conspiracy is kind of winning the day. And I think that, you know, two years ago we were having these conversations, you and I, about the things that are happening on Twitter are. The culture is downstream from it. And these conversations will soon be happening at dinner tables, you know, in barbershops and things like that. And here we are two years later. I would say that that is very much the case. We actually had that conversation where Matt, he was talking about the boys from the high school and how they're talking about all this stuff in class.

Co-host Chris (97:47)

It was actually really funny. We said, because Matt's a little bit older, so when we talk about the Jews, it's. It's not as nuanced as. It's very hard to catch him up on, like, four years of, you know, just getting blabbed with information about this stuff.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (98:01)

Yeah.

Co-host Chris (98:01)

And we're in Florida, so he still kind of has this view on It. Of a certain direction. But his son's friends come into the coffee shop, and they're at the big table over there, and. And they're talking about the Jews. And I happen to be walking by and I go, what are you guys talking about here?

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (98:17)

They're talking about it within the context that conspiracy theorists have been talking about for the last. Yeah. Four years. Really aggressively on the Internet. The last two years in particular have been redlining it.

Co-host Chris (98:27)

Yeah. So, like, for instance, like, did you know that they owned xyz? And Matt would go, no, there's no way.

Jeremiah Skiba (98:33)

But Henry Ford wrote a whole book about it. Yeah, Henry Ford wrote this book.

Jake Skiba (98:41)

It's one of the most banned books ever.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (98:43)

Yeah. This is what we. We saw pretty early. Or not early. I mean, in the grand scheme of things, it was actually like, really down to the last couple of plays of the game. But we said, this is going to be taking place.

Co-host Chris (98:53)

I didn't see it when Henry Ford did.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (98:55)

No, no, he saw it way ahead. Yeah, yeah.

Jake Skiba (98:57)

But.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (98:57)

But as far as, like the last two years, we said. Because I remember, even my wife, where's my button? She was. You know, I'm saying a lot of really dangerous things.

Co-host Chris (99:07)

It's egregious.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (99:08)

And I'm saying, hey, it's coming. This isn't going to be just fringe stuff that I'm talking about. This is going to be coming to the. To the dinner table. And here we are. So in that spirit, I think.

Co-host Chris (99:17)

Can I tell my favorite story?

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (99:19)

Well, let me just make this final

Co-host Chris (99:20)

point, and then, yeah, I can tell

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (99:21)

my favorite story, and then you can tell your favorite. I'm not sure which one it is. So. So in that spirit, I think that there's more to come, and it's going to be of a conspiratorial nature. And I think they're going to continue to wake. You know, wake up. And I use that word really almost sarcastically because I think it's a controlled waking up, and it's really dangerous because they're gonna aim people at the wrong thing. They're not waking them up. Jesus Christ.

Co-host Chris (99:43)

This is what.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (99:44)

God.

Co-host Chris (99:44)

That's what Tucker and Candace are doing right now. Which is also why I'm a little suspicious, because in a sense, it's like, oh, man. You're like, they're right on. You're accurate about the target.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (99:53)

Yeah.

Co-host Chris (99:53)

And they're saying the things that are true. I mean, these are things that we've spoken about a long time ago.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (99:58)

Where are you leading people?

Jeremiah Skiba (99:59)

Yeah.

Co-host Chris (100:00)

But now they have like, this huge audience, and now they're pushing everybody to

Jake Skiba (100:03)

a certain straight to the Catholic Church with the hallowed out.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (100:06)

Right. So. So my point is, I don't know how long this model of TPUSA can stand, given that conspiracy is on its way.

Co-host Chris (100:15)

They did this to me, though. It's so that. That, like, funneling of the. Noticing. It happened to me with Elon Musk when he first brought Twitter, or maybe before he brought it, I made a Jewish joke. He.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (100:29)

You made a Jewish joke?

Co-host Chris (100:30)

One of many. He retweeted it and. And, like, responded to it just to give it a boost. And it goes, like, very viral. And then there's, like, there's newspaper articles wrote about it, and I'm doing blood libel. Yeah. You know, all the regular stuff.

Jeremiah Skiba (100:46)

I want to hear it now.

Co-host Chris (100:48)

Oh, the Jew. It was a. It was a picture of Joe Biden sleeping, and then next to it was a picture of Mel Gibson when he's coming out of the gym and he's just ripped.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (100:57)

Yeah, jacked. And I go jacked and tan.

Co-host Chris (100:59)

You could do adrenochrome or you could hate the Jews. Which way, Western man. So, like, you know, nice meme format, but nobody tagged in it. There's no reason for Elon Musk to look at it. And he looks and he retweets and he responds, wow, is Mel Gibson that Jack these days? So you're left to wonder, is he gay? And looking at Mel Gibson's physique and ignoring the clearly anti Semitic joke or. Or does he understand it and he's

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (101:23)

putting his finger on the scales.

Co-host Chris (101:25)

Yeah. And this was before. This is right before the whole Kanye west pops off where, you know, everyone's. He's noticing the Jews and. Yeah, so I'm like, damn, did I play a role? Like, was I a useful idiot in the narrative that is that we're all looking at right now? And I think I was. It's a. I don't know how to feel about it, but that's. That's what happens here.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (101:45)

Yeah.

Co-host Chris (101:46)

There's a conversation that is true, and then it's picked up by the elites, and then they.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (101:49)

So that's even more of a. Of a important thing to highlight. It's not just that conspiracy is coming, it's that they want it to. They are orchestrating these drips and they're putting their foot on the accelerator. It's time to speed this up. So tpusa doing this thing where they're trying to, you know, remove themselves from the dirty conversation and have this pristine, white towered, you know, Christian Zionism mixed with Republican values kind of a deal. I don't know how long that's going to stand, man, because it's coming. In fact, I kind of think that that's not the point. The point is, like, look at how crazy it is. Look at Erica Kirk. She's crazy. Like, like, I think they're showing you. It's like a, they're showing you the really grotesque version of the mask. Because I don't think that anybody's looking at TPUSA and going, like, absolutely, man. That's on the up and up. In fact, they're mostly the, the point of ridicule from all the people that look at, you know, the situation and go, is that a grieving wife? Because that feels really weird. This whole thing feels really strange. And I, you know, I don't know my life.

Jeremiah Skiba (102:52)

I'd feel very uncomfortable if I was watching.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (102:56)

Well, I'd be dead.

Co-host Chris (102:57)

But I did smacker.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (102:59)

I go, smacker. But yeah. So, I mean, what do you guys think about that whole picture, this idea of like, what is TP usa And like, how do they stand up in whatever's coming?

Jeremiah Skiba (103:12)

I think it's a bunch of gays. I don't know. I don't know. I just, I still get texts from him and I'm like, thank you.

Jake Skiba (103:21)

Yeah, you're right onto it, Jeremiah. Because, I mean, you look at Peter Thiel and Peter Thiel was one of the backers of JD Vance. And Peter Thiel in 2016 was the gay guy supporting Trump. And he's also involved in Palantir, which is.

Jeremiah Skiba (103:37)

Where are all the AI guys?

Jake Skiba (103:39)

I, I don't know.

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Jeremiah Skiba (103:42)

Yeah,

Jake Skiba (103:45)

I mean, it's, it's, it's definitely. They're, they're creating an entity to swallow the Zionistic mindset movement and also kind of back it with the American government because you have the TP USA and you know, the involvement of, you know, Trump going, we need to bring God back into the state. And then TP USA is this golden goose of how they're going to introduce this to the next generation or whatever. And I, I think what it is, is it's setting up for this controlling, crusader, esque, technocratic state that we're heading into because, I mean, there's a lot of esoteric backing to the war in Iran right now. I don't know if you guys have seen some of the footage of like War Secretary. You know, he's got the crusader crosses all over his chest and Lo and behold, he's the guy, you know, leading the charge, you know, as we go and smack the Muslims down and Iran, you know, it's, it's really interesting because, you know, there is the pseudo Pigraful Legger letter from Albert pike that talks about the three world wars.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (104:54)

Yeah.

Jake Skiba (104:54)

And, and it talks about how it's teeing up for all of these three Abrahamic faiths to like eradicate each other. And we're already seeing the tension from Islamic migration all across Europe and also pressure here in the U. S. You know, the, the, the people up in Michigan, you know, renting daycares or whatever. And, and then you have the, the divide between the Catholic Church and the Protestant church and we have the first American pope from Chicago. And I think the, they're teeing up for ecumenicalism in terms of these truthers like Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson and Russell Brand and Mel Gibson and Marky Mark. All of these are very outspoken Catholics, all kind of representing, hey, if you're a Christian, if you're conservative, if you don't believe in abortion, come on back to the mother hen church. Come on back to, to the, the Catholic, you know, capitalism and such. Yeah, I actually heard from Candace Owens and it's one of the things that even though she brought up Rob, I was really concerned about it. She said to be a student of history is to be Catholic. Wait a second. Do you know how much the Catholic Church like really eviscerated, you know, what

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (106:17)

that sounds like is an attack on science?

Co-host Chris (106:21)

Well, Tucker Carlson. Sorry, Jake, but he's along the same lines recently as well. He just claimed Protestantism is preaching a false gospel. And I don't necessarily disagree. Problem is, is like now you're pointing to an Episcopalian church or the Catholic Church and it's like, okay, what about them? No, you know, that's fine. But it's strange that we're being funneled into a certain territory.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (106:45)

Yeah, this, and this does bring it to mind all the, you know, kind of Johnny Cerucci or the Ed Mabry ideas of the Catholic Church coming and swooping in to occupy a, you know, disheveled Israel. After all the nations turn on, you know, on, on Israel and the Palestinians are wiped out and all this other idea and the idea that the Vatican would, would come in and basically occupy that land. Which is a fascinating take. But yeah, there's, there does seem to be a lot of ops.

Co-host Chris (107:13)

And Jake has some thoughts on that.

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Jake Skiba (108:16)

There's a really fascinating pattern I noticed with Lent and so the diocese. So the reason I found out about this is I have some extended family that are Catholic. And so I went, we were visiting and they were like, yeah, for Lent our priest is asking us to give up social media and give up getting on Facebook and get up looking at the news because all the stress and drama of the world. And so I noticed this pattern two or three years ago. But it was like right when they started this 40 day, you know, Lent season that they all were given up their social media, they weren't listening to the news. And right after they started this like a bunch of world event like ground shaking news started to happen and it happened this year as well to where the, the season of Lent started. And then lo and behold, the, the Epstein files drop. The World War III kicks off like three, you know, two or three weeks later, you know, and so there's like this pattern because we know the one of the largest intelligence sec, you know, sects of the world was the Jesuit order. And that's actually a quote from Napoleon Bonaparte about the, the Jesuits being like this intelligence agency. But it's the fact that the, the Catholic church represents billions of people, like at least a billion Christians so to speak. And, and so if they send out this frequency saying everybody turn off your news, everybody turn off your tablets and, and the digestion of information, then it's almost like it's a planned kind of, you know, turning off the tap and you have a billion people that are ignorant to these very pressing news stories and things that start to happen right after they start this lint process of giving up their social media.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (110:07)

And that's interesting. It's like everybody enter the echo chamber on three. One, two, three. Yeah. And then you all do put your

Jake Skiba (110:15)

hand in the sand, and then everything starts happening right after that. It's like, what is the pattern here, man? It's, it's like they're, you know, timing it.

Co-host Chris (110:23)

You're gonna, you're not gonna want to look at what we do next.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (110:25)

Yeah, yeah, that kind of thing. I don't know. I, I don't know where this is all going, but it feels like we're rapidly approaching. And, you know, you asked before what Jeremiah thought his father would think of it, and, you know, it's just that question, I think alone highlights how crazy things have gotten and how they continue to just escalate at an exponential rate. And, you know, I'm not in the, in the, in the realm of giving prophecy at all. That's not something that I do. We just kind of look at these things and we talk about them. We tend to make fun of them. Not even because we don't believe it's happening or it doesn't lead to anything significant. I think it's just a, it's how we get through probably some of the craziest times. That's what I told Jake.

Jeremiah Skiba (111:08)

You gotta laugh sometimes. I mean.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (111:09)

Yeah.

Jeremiah Skiba (111:10)

With all this crazy news, it's very, very important to laugh because.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (111:14)

Yeah.

Co-host Chris (111:14)

Jake, you don't laugh.

Jeremiah Skiba (111:16)

He, he doesn't.

Jake Skiba (111:17)

Yeah. I, I, I, I have to, I have to laugh at his Jew jokes more. But no, I do laugh. Of course, I, I have, I have a lot of kind of silly jokes, like, Bible jokes. I have Bible jokes. I'm gonna be like

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (111:36)

Jeremiah, just stone face.

Jeremiah Skiba (111:37)

He's working on them. He's working on them.

Jake Skiba (111:39)

Okay, so let me tell you one, Let me tell you one of my Bible jokes.

Co-host Chris (111:43)

Okay, go ahead.

Jake Skiba (111:43)

Okay, so, so, you know, you know, in the book of Revelation, you know, all these terrible things happen, and the angels stand up and they're like, come and see. Look at this. Well, what if the angel had a lisp, Right? What if across the earth we heard, you know, this is the, the bull of wrath, come and fee.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (112:04)

Oh, my God. Like, we heard that, like, in the sky. Is that what you're saying?

Jake Skiba (112:08)

Come it, you know, it's like Mike Tyson declaring judgments on the world.

Co-host Chris (112:13)

He's so sick, bro.

Jake Skiba (112:15)

Come and see.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (112:17)

Oh, my God, Jeremiah's crying. You guys are coming to.

Co-host Chris (112:22)

Oh, you're gonna have a great time, Jake.

Jake Skiba (112:25)

As long as you guys are coming

Jeremiah Skiba (112:25)

to Truth or Con. You guys are on the website and.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (112:28)

Well, so if we have audience out there that's listening, that wouldn't mind if you're. If you're in Texas or you wouldn't mind going to Texas, then go to Truth or con.

Jeremiah Skiba (112:38)

Is it truthacon.com truthercon.com and you can book your whole stay. Your whole trip from our website. It's pretty cool. You can, like, book your hotel room, book everything and cheaper rates and everything.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (112:49)

We literally just tell people, like, figure it out. We're like, hey, there's gonna be an event. Figure it out. Well, that's crazy.

Co-host Chris (112:55)

Last time our event got canceled and rescheduled, but. Yeah, look at this. They got a map. This is beautiful.

Jeremiah Skiba (113:01)

We'd love.

Co-host Chris (113:02)

I don't know, your.

Jeremiah Skiba (113:03)

Your event too. Like, if we can. On our website, you know, like, hey, Rohimian Griff is pretty cool.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (113:08)

Well, that's October 25th in the. And the 26th. Right? And that's. That's in. No, he's in November 7th and 8th. The last one was October 25th and 26th. It's. I. I think your website needs to be a little doodled because I saw that.

Co-host Chris (113:20)

So November 5th, that was the date of our.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (113:23)

That's interesting.

Co-host Chris (113:23)

Grove. Like two years ago.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (113:25)

I think it was six.

Jake Skiba (113:26)

Yeah.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (113:27)

And we didn't even know each other, but we were doing something very similar. I don't know what value we're gonna bring event, but hopefully we can make somebody laugh about something.

Co-host Chris (113:33)

Cool sunglasses.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (113:34)

I think Jeremiah's got enough of the cool sunglasses, though.

Jeremiah Skiba (113:37)

Well, these are prescription. I don't. I'm not trying to, you know.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (113:41)

Oh, no. I'm just wearing them because I'm an.

Jeremiah Skiba (113:44)

I wear them because I'm an. And I can't see.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (113:48)

Nice. Very good.

Co-host Chris (113:49)

We're gonna make you laugh. Yo, we're gonna have to hold Jake down and tickle him.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (113:53)

We bring him some elephant milk and. And that'll really lighten the mood. So. So I. I guess before we. We bring it out of here, number one. Well, actually, let's ask this question. Are you guys. And I think. I think I know the answer to this one.

Co-host Chris (114:09)

It's gonna be yes and no.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (114:10)

No, I think it's gonna be yes and yes. Yeah, I think so. I think so. Are you guys having fun? Even though we're in the end times and. And everything is falling apart and things are crazy. Are you guys having fun?

Jeremiah Skiba (114:18)

I'm having a blast.

Jake Skiba (114:21)

Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'm having fun.

Jeremiah Skiba (114:23)

It's awesome. I mean being able to be on like shows like this and like having other people that, that believe in the same things that we believe on our show. I mean that's, that's so much fun. I think. Hey, photo behind me. I mean that's pretty fun.

Jake Skiba (114:38)

Did you guys want to show that, that, that clip of us censoring every single word you guys said during our interview?

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (114:46)

You know what's funny about that? We were just what nightmare are they doing now?

Co-host Chris (114:50)

Yeah, sorry, sorry.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (114:51)

So we were just on Tinfoil Hat and we listened to like the, you know after the show they talk about it. I'm pull this back up and they go yeah dude. Like those guys hold the record for swearing on our show. We had to send the last time. The last time it was like 140 some odd instances.

Co-host Chris (115:08)

Yeah.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (115:08)

And then he goes this time it was better.

Co-host Chris (115:09)

We got better.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (115:10)

But it's still a lot of work. Like damn, dude, is that really what we do? And then there's this video here. Let's, let's, let's play this because I guess it is exactly what we do.

Co-host Chris (115:18)

Okay. I guess I didn't know it was going to start right.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (115:19)

I didn't know we were we're that bad.

Jeremiah Skiba (115:21)

And Jake said beforehand I said you didn't censor anything. Right? And he said ye. Yeah. So keep that in mind. And this is my point of view.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (115:28)

Okay. Gives you cancers. What nightmarish are they doing now?

Jake Skiba (115:33)

Such as.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (115:35)

That doesn't make any sense.

Co-host Chris (115:36)

Maybe it's like a way out.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (115:37)

Which one do you choose?

Co-host Chris (115:38)

And I'm like, you think I'm a

Jeremiah Skiba (115:40)

puppy

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (115:43)

dance I'm the boss of my own brain. So give it up. Psychic abilities or some it's the exact same. Oh, this works. You can't do that more. All the women were kicking all the ass.

Co-host Chris (115:54)

This Old Testament God is kind of a But you have these researchers, these intense researchers that can come and explain these things and and then when they're explained I can read the Bible again and go oh wow. Yeah that makes a lot of sense

Jake Skiba (116:08)

into mankind is actually going to be

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (116:09)

through a vaccination anti vax genetic manipulation aspect of the vaccine side these vaccines.

Co-host Chris (116:15)

And then when people get mad you can say no.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (116:18)

Now when actually does like we grew up in the I grew up in the 90s calling your friend gay was just like yeah, that's why part of our branding is dangerous. And over and over again it says dangerous.

Co-host Chris (116:35)

Explaining that to the cops, dude, I

Jeremiah Skiba (116:38)

think we are the same person.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (116:40)

Shoot the but you Know the guys are returning.

Jeremiah Skiba (116:43)

Yeah, we are.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (116:44)

And the part is, I've already established I can't read whatever your thing is, if you want to become the guy, if you want to become this guy, it's all there. There are plenty of intellectuals in our space. I'm a willing to say the crazy dangerously.

Co-host Chris (116:57)

You got to be.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (116:57)

You got to be retarded.

Jeremiah Skiba (116:59)

Yeah.

Co-host Chris (117:00)

Talking about the. We created that.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (117:02)

Not go through the same old. You always go through.

Co-host Chris (117:04)

And it's kind of up to us to be unpredictable. Bet you that guy wouldn't say nigger right now.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (117:11)

Well, that's my thing is if you want to be able to juke that system, you have to move in the spirit. All platforms, dude. Nephilim Death Squad except for Rumble. We've turned a corner and we said, Rumble sucks. Oh, my God, dude, that's really what it's like to listen to this show.

Co-host Chris (117:27)

It's torture.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (117:27)

It's crazy. It's crazy. Every once in a while, dude, people come to us and they go like, yo, you guys like the language? And I'm like, what are they talking about?

Jeremiah Skiba (117:39)

People heard me in my real life. In real life, I, I, I'm like that. But I have to, I have to clean myself up for Jake.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (117:46)

I'm. We're supposed to, dude. And then we think we do. Like I thought we did. And then I hear that and I'm like, oh, no, we didn't. It's like, this is.

Co-host Chris (117:53)

I understand why people don't really talk to us.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (117:55)

Yeah.

Jeremiah Skiba (117:56)

But it made a funny clip.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (117:58)

It made a great clip. This is. The people in the community are really hesitant about us.

Jeremiah Skiba (118:03)

Yeah.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (118:04)

And I struggle to understand why. Well, and then I see that and I'm like, yeah, those guys that, that we just watched. Yeah, those guys. I wouldn't watch that. And then, like, that would make me

Jeremiah Skiba (118:14)

want to have you guys on, you know, maybe, like, honestly, you know what it does?

Jake Skiba (118:19)

Yeah.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (118:20)

It makes me look at the audience, like in the live chat right now, like, what's wrong with you? Bad people. Bad. What's going on? Like, they. Somebody said this guy's name, the late engaged. So, yeah, somebody said, that's why I love this show. I'm like, what?

Co-host Chris (118:35)

It is a weird. It's a weird one. I wonder what you guys would like, because I, I struggle with this idea

Jeremiah Skiba (118:40)

of,

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (118:44)

yo, Nancy, pull up the elephant tits again before we go. Because it was crazy.

Jeremiah Skiba (118:48)

We're never to do this again, guys.

Co-host Chris (118:50)

This is so absolutely irl.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (118:52)

We should do.

Co-host Chris (118:52)

It would be really fun. But I I struggle with the idea of Christianity and Christ, like, behavior and then also just my. Whoever I am. And, like, when David's in the room, it gets kind of like, oh, yeah,

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (119:05)

we're just kicking off each other.

Jeremiah Skiba (119:07)

Yeah.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (119:07)

I want to ask. No, no, I want to ask this.

Co-host Chris (119:10)

Yeah.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (119:11)

Because this is interesting. Shut up, dude.

Co-host Chris (119:12)

He's gonna keep doing this.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (119:14)

So. So the other day, because, you know, obviously I have a problem. We both have a problem with the swearing and everything else. Pull up those tits real quick.

Co-host Chris (119:22)

Okay.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (119:23)

And just things out. Dude, what a set of swingers. And it's crazy that it just doesn't make any sense.

Jeremiah Skiba (119:32)

Jake, how did you learn about that?

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Jake Skiba (120:23)

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Jake Skiba (120:35)

Because I was looking up that book of Jasher thing. I was like, how. How can I prove elephants are actually humans? And I was like, wait, they don't have utters.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (120:46)

Dude, I gotta post that. I'm posting that on Twitter next. Yeah, that's crazy. So. So the. The question that I want to ask Jake is like, so obviously, you know, I have a problem. We both have a problem, and people bring it to our attention routinely. And I. And it's something that I wrestle with

Co-host Chris (121:05)

and why you like that?

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (121:06)

And I think about. I think about Jesus, and I go, jesus said a lot of things to a lot of people, called a lot of people, you know, vipers and. And whitewashed tombs and. And all these different things, right? And. And I go, so I go to chat GPT, which is just demons. But I still. I went there and I said, hey, demons, show me all of the insults that Jesus used. And it. And it gave me the list of them. And I said, interesting. And I said, hey, demons, what insults were popular around the time of Jesus? And it gave me that list. And I said, they were all the same words. In other words, Jesus seemingly used every word. And I'm not saying he used it like I do. He wasn't just like, you know, throwing it around. Throwing it around. He used it very pointedly and righteously.

Co-host Chris (121:59)

Yeah, like that last end bomb at the end. Completely uncle Unnecessary. My bad. I'll do better.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (122:04)

But I go, man, it. It strikes me, and this is crazy. And I know. And this is, you know, we. I already. There's a clip out there of me saying this, and this is just. But it's. It's a thought that I had. And I, you know, I go, if the word was around, Jesus might have called some of these Pharisees a right. Am I wrong? A spiritual faggot? Am I wrong? Am I. Am I justifying my own. It's okay to tell me I'm. I'm justifying my own.

Jake Skiba (122:36)

No, no. I think language is very subjective. I think any intellectual person should be able to, you know, hear through the language being used. I think the problem is, is the people that have wholesome family values, they're. They're so offended because they've been trained. And, you know, you know, we talked about Owen, and he just put out his how to Slay a Wizard book, and it breaks down this concept. So if anybody is like, well, I have a problem with language, but also, you got to understand that there is a spellcraft to the way words have been used. And we're trained to tune out certain things from a very young age. Like, for. For like, 15 years, you're not allowed to say certain words. But then as soon as you graduate, then you're into this. This realm where, you know, people use it in their everyday speech. So it's, you know, it's definitely not a sin to say a cuss word. You know, I think it's. It's just how people are programmed. And. And who do you want your audience to be? Because a lot of people who I think would benefit from, like, this kind of podcast, so they're the kind of people that aren't willing to listen to the language, unfortunately, but they would benefit the most from the freedom of speech and from the topics covered. And I think that's Kind of like the, the game you have to play is, you know, how much are you willing to cater to others versus just being yourself. And, and then, and then you risk not being yourself, which is what's valuable. So.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (124:03)

And that'll pull, that'll put off people.

Jake Skiba (124:05)

Right.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (124:05)

Because authentic authenticity,

Co-host Chris (124:11)

that's on a loop and loop.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (124:13)

Authentic authenticity is what is winning the day right now. And I, I think we have a lot of intellectual thought leaders.

Co-host Chris (124:22)

It's crazy to talk about Jesus Christ after that drop, but that's crazy. This Saturday, I was talking with my father in law.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (124:28)

Was this after the, the really stellar Easter performance where they crucified the tall skinny girl?

Co-host Chris (124:35)

This was before.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (124:37)

Wow.

Co-host Chris (124:38)

This. Yeah, it's a 501C3. You wouldn't get it.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (124:40)

Yep, it was kind of crazy.

Co-host Chris (124:42)

I was talking to him about it and I think a lot of people's hesitation with believing in Jesus Christ and I guess being a Christian is the clear understanding to them that they have to then change their ways and die to themselves. Now, does that mean language? I think, I think part of it does, but it's also what I was explaining to him is like this is also a process like believing Jesus Christ and accepting as your Lord and Savior doesn't mean that tomorrow you're some sanctified version of yourself.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (125:14)

Right.

Co-host Chris (125:14)

Still you. And then you have to discover. You have to read the Bible.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (125:18)

I'm still a piece of.

Co-host Chris (125:19)

You have to study. You have to talk with other Christians in the space and like, you know, you're always going to be you. Like I'm always going to be me. And on this show I'm. I'm me dialed up to 100. I'm not like this at home necessarily. So I am, I'm a version of me that is performative in a way, but I'm still aimed at this thing. And it's, I'm using it as like some sort of a contradiction. But yeah, I feel like a lot of people do struggle with that. Like the, they're. They're not going to be able to be who they are. And I don't have to have it

Jake Skiba (125:49)

all figured out to come into a faith like process. And it kind of goes back to what we were talking about earlier in the show with the, the Peter vision and it leads into the Jerusalem Council that happens in Acts and, and it talks about the Gentiles that are coming into the church, these like people that are worshiping at the pagan idols and committing, you know, temple prostitution and all this stuff. He says, let's not put a burden on these Gentiles like these people coming into the church. Let's just start them off with these basic three things, which is sexual immorality, you know, the worship of idols and, you know, drinking of blood basically. And stop those says, yeah. Then it says Moses is taught in the synagogue every Sabbath day. Because the faith process is not something you have to have figured out on day one. It's just, it's. As long as you're willing to humble yourself and be like, I don't got it figured out, then you're in the right spot to take the journey to then start to learn on the areas of your life to, to, you know, start to make more Christ like, versus the old you. And, and I think that's what a lot of people are turned off in terms of the denominational facades and, and the ways that like, you know, if you want to go to a Pentecostal church, you have to, you know, be clean shaven and wear, you know, the real long sleeves or whatever. And I think that's what turns people off in terms of like religion versus what I think real true faith is. Because the process is not judgmental. It's just, it's all about, for one, the, the humility. Humility is the thing that binds the spirit of God to us. Because the moment you are puffed up and prideful, that's the moment you have the spirit of religion. And I think that's, you know, it's actually tied to the season we're in, which is the season of unleavened bread. You know, what, what does the leaven represent? It doesn't just represent sin, you know, which, you should get sin out of your life. Sure. But it represents pride. It represents your own understanding and, and you trying to prove to everybody else that your way is the right way. And whenever we can humble ourselves, we're less judgmental. We're able to see the good in people in areas that, you know, otherwise we might have, you know, kind of had a, a judgmental high pedestal, you know, perspective looking down. But you're able to see the good in, in all of these different areas. Like, yeah, we talked about the Catholic Church, you know, and this. But there's people with, you know, good hearts in these different systems, in these different sets of beliefs. And we can learn from anybody. But you should never, you know, get to the point where you have it all figured out. Because that's the moment that I generally tune people out, you know, the moment somebody's like, yeah, this is the way you have to believe. This is the way you have to walk out. Your faith in this or that way, you know, is generally when I'm like, okay, you don't have it figured out because, yeah, wise people are generally humble people and they're willing to hear and have the discourse. And, and I think that's the difference between religion and the spirit of religion and the, you know, and having faith and having, you know, at least some, you know, belief in the Messiah and his example, you know, it doesn't turn you into this Pharisee. It's just, it's. Hey, we're all on this journey together, and no matter how rough on the edges you are, as long as you are going in that, that pursuit of truth, then, you know, have the conversation.

Jeremiah Skiba (129:15)

Well, that I think, listen, you know,

Co-host Chris (129:18)

yeah, that conversation that I did have with my, my father in law about this, I was having it alongside somebody who's a, like a newer believer. And, and she's trying, she started the conversation and she's trying to reach him in a certain way. But it's very much like, it's such a weird thing where it's like, you know, let's, let's, let's all pray to Jesus right now and accept the man's. Like, he's not even close. He's not even close to that. Yeah. And as, as she's doing the thing, which I'm familiar with, and you know, she's doing great too. I, I stop her and I, I just go to him and I go, I don't give a. If you believe in Jesus today or even, even, like, accept what I'm saying. I don't care. I don't, like, if we can go away from here. This is not my, my goal. You ask me a question, I'll tell you the answer that I think and we could have a really fun conversation about this.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (130:08)

Yeah.

Co-host Chris (130:08)

I'll never talk to God. I'll never talk about God to you if you don't really want to do that. But if you're asking the question, then we'll do it. And then we got into like a really long, deep conversation. But like, I started it off saying, like, I don't give a F if you. Yeah, yeah, I don't. Now let's talk about God, because that's not for me. I was like, I'm looking at, like, maybe it's a backward method, but it's not conducive to changing somebody's mind. Like, yeah, like, okay, he's coming here to get me to say the sinner, you know, the sinner's prayer and accept Jesus. Like, that's my goal. Like, that's not my goal at all. That's somebody else. I'm the guy that's going to pass the ball to somebody else. Maybe if you're interested in this, give me the opportunity.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (130:43)

Maybe I'll plant a seed.

Co-host Chris (130:44)

Yeah. That's all.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (130:45)

I can have an earnest conversation.

Co-host Chris (130:46)

I can plant it and water it a little bit, but I don't make this thing grow. And I'm also here to kind of show you, like, you know, I am a bad person.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (130:55)

Yeah.

Co-host Chris (130:55)

This is a Christian show.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (130:56)

Yeah.

Co-host Chris (130:57)

But here's the truth as I see it, and this is what I've learned on my journey.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (131:01)

This is.

Co-host Chris (131:02)

Yeah, go take it.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (131:03)

Why I constantly try to lead with the idea that, like, we're. Because it's not for yourself. Well, I mean, it's this idea that, like, I. If I. If I can. When God asked Job, I. I bring this up all the time. It's like, you know, where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? We're only here for a little amount of time. In the grand scheme of things, God might as well have said, job, you're retarded. You know, and that. That probably would have surmised the entire thing.

Co-host Chris (131:36)

Incredible. I'm going on a very, like, a heartfelt monologue in your tweeting.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (131:39)

I. I was tweeting, Yeah. I just didn't know that elephants had.

Jeremiah Skiba (131:42)

Will you tag each one of us in one of the nipples?

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (131:45)

I can try to do that.

Jeremiah Skiba (131:46)

I don't know if they're awesome.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (131:48)

Instagram is. Is the one that lets you tag in that one position. But I'll try to. I just. To me, it's. It's a remarkable revelation that they have titties like ladies. I didn't know that. I think it's a good place to leave it. But before we do, you know, I want to remind everybody who's listening where they can find your shows, guys. And. And where they can buy tickets to. To Truth or Con, where we're going to be November 5th and 6th. I don't know what we're. We might be serving hot dogs. We might be just cleaning up the chairs after the event, but we'll be there. And. And if you guys can make it out to Texas, it would be very cool to see you guys. So where can everybody find your work? Guys?

Jeremiah Skiba (132:28)

Skiba News Nation on YouTube, we do a new episode every Friday at 4:44pm CST. We go live at 7 every Sunday, and then we do a Discord hangout every Thursday at 7pm CST. So we're on YouTube and everywhere else a lot. And Truth or Con, you can find us on our website, truthacon.com and because I figured the word conspiracy is like, you know, we're not conspiracy theorists anymore. We kind of proved everybody wrong, right? You know, conspiracy factoids.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (133:01)

So, yeah, the con is. Oh, look, there we are. You could tell it looks just like us.

Jeremiah Skiba (133:05)

Yeah. We need some good headshots of you guys. And we'll put it in there.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (133:09)

Yes, Yes. I look forward to seeing Flat Earth Dave. Jvt. That's a guy that I'm like.

Jeremiah Skiba (133:16)

Yeah, he's, like, really good friends with, Alex Stein. So we're trying to get out.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (133:20)

I know, Jay. Okay.

Jeremiah Skiba (133:22)

We're trying to get Alex Stein to, like, bought, like, crash the event. That'd be so great.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (133:26)

Oh, that would be fun. That would be very fun.

Co-host Chris (133:28)

We're actually. We're. We're gonna be working on having Alex signs old producers at our event because these guys are hilarious.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (133:34)

Oh, yeah.

Co-host Chris (133:37)

Is one of them.

Jeremiah Skiba (133:38)

I can give you.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (133:39)

Oh, he's one of the producers for them. That makes sense.

Co-host Chris (133:41)

So he definitely knows you show.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (133:42)

He's unemployed.

Co-host Chris (133:44)

Sorry. Jvt.

Jake Skiba (133:45)

He has a hilarious bit where he. He met up with W. Bush and he was, like, wearing. Yeah, like, a shirt with W. Bush and, like, got a selfie with him. It was hilarious.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (133:58)

Yeah, he's got his face on it and then he's got a checklist and it says, take a selfie with W. Bush while wearing W. Bush on my chest or something like that. And he checks it off. Very funny.

Jeremiah Skiba (134:07)

Whisper 911 was an inside job.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (134:09)

No, Like, I really like that painting of you that Epstein has. Well, look, man, thanks for. Thanks for coming on the show. And I can't wait to link up. Can't wait to see you guys in person. This is gonna be awesome.

Jeremiah Skiba (134:20)

Yeah, man. Let's do it again sometime soon.

David Lee Corbo (The Raven) (134:23)

Absolutely.

Co-host Chris (134:24)

Absolutely. Guys, another great episode. Thanks for hanging out. And until next time, probably tomorrow, the next day, who knows? Keep up, obey, submit, and comply. Guys, see you later.

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