Faith By Reason: 2025 in Review w/ Ed Mabrie

Summary

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Nephilim Death Squad Biblical Conspiracy: "Faith By Reason: 2025 in Review" w/ Ed Mabrie

Podcast: Nephilim Death Squad Biblical Conspiracy
Host(s): TopLobsta & Raven (David Lee Corbeau)
Guest: Ed Mabry (Faith By Reason)
Date: December 31, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this lively, deeply insightful year-end episode, TopLobsta and Raven are joined by frequent guest Ed Mabry from Faith By Reason to dissect 2025 through a biblical and conspiratorial lens. They explore the proliferation of deception—especially in the realms of religion, geopolitics, and disclosure—offering sharp critiques of trends among Christians, truth-seekers, and the wider world. Topics range from doctrinal purity, Christian Zionism, spiritual warfare, and Antichrist scenarios, to the subtle war over definitions, distraction, and the responsibility of spiritual leadership.

With characteristic humor, candor, and robust engagement with listener questions and current events, the hosts and Ed encourage discernment, humility, and above all else, a focus on knowing Christ intimately as the antidote to coming deceptions.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Why Knowing God Matters in a Time of Deception

• The Alien Disclosure/Antichrist Link:

  • The ongoing trend of "alien disclosure" is discussed as a mounting deception that threatens to usher in the Antichrist. Referencing Timothy Alberino, Raven warns:

    “If…what our good friend Timothy Alberino says, which is the Antichrist is going to come from this, you need to know God. If there’s some Antichrist coming, something that will take the position and present itself as an alternative to Christ or even as Christ but it’s not, really the only way you’re going to be able to defend yourself from that is by knowing Christ.” (07:59)

• Experiential Knowledge vs. Doctrinal Knowledge:
  Ed Mabry emphasizes the biblical narrative as God inviting personal relationship, rejecting both the cold legalism and the "magic teddy bear" Jesus:

  “The purpose of the Bible is not to learn. It’s not a history book, it’s not a biology book. It is a story of a person who wants you to know them… That’s the God of the Bible, not some angry, vengeful god as people try to claim him to be." (09:00)

2. Subtle (and Not So Subtle) Deceptions in the Truth and Christian Communities

• Gnosticism, Intellectual Pride, and Misplaced Trust:
  Raven cautions against leaning on one’s own understanding in conspiracy circles, warning it can funnel people into Gnostic or demiurgical thinking (11:49). Ed and Raven agree that relationship with God is what protects against being misled.

• Hijacking and Rebranding Jesus:
  Jesus is uniquely co-opted across spiritual movements and alternative religions. “You don’t say that about Muhammad, you don’t say that about Krishna. Only Jesus.” — Ed Mabry (14:21)

• False Apocalypse and The Wrath of the Lamb: Ed presents his contrarian reading of Revelation—suggesting the “six seals” mark a final satanic deception—emphasizing the need for doctrinal precision to prevent misattributing evil to Christ (15:36).

• Dangers of Internal Division within the Body of Christ: The hosts wrestle with the ethics of public correction, the risk of cutting off parts of the Body of Christ, and the difficulty of discerning between honest error and deliberate deception.

  “Are you being intentionally dishonest or are you fooled yourself? But where we’re aimed is not in the same direction. So that means that we’re talking about bad doctrine, and that’s bad for the people…” — TopLobsta (24:38)

3. Christian Zionism, Israel, and the Hegelian Dialectic

• Complex Attitudes Toward Modern Israel: An extended segment (41:01–70:00) dives into theological and geopolitical controversy regarding Israel, Jewish identity, prophecy, and Christian responsibility.

  • Ed Mabry clarifies:

    “Israel is God's problem, not ours. God will deal with Israel…Right now, we're in the Church age…We're under grace.” (41:01)

  • Christians can justly critique the nation and reject both uncritical Zionism and anti-Semitic conspiracy (52:57).

• Hegelian Dialectic and the Vatican's Role: Ed maps power dynamics, theorizing:

  "When I take a step back...I see a Hegelian dialectic...The Vatican’s funding both sides…and I think the synthesis…is they want Jerusalem. That’s ultimately what the Vatican has always wanted.” (63:07)

4. Dangers of Separating Jesus from His Context

• The Attack on Jesus’s "Jewishness":
  The discussion highlights how anti-Jewish sentiment can lead to a version of Jesus susceptible to being reinvented—as Pleiadian, ascended master, or anything else (77:12):

  “If you present Jesus as someone who is not a Jew…you can make him anything you want.” — Ed Mabry (79:11)

  “Hitler said Jesus is not Jewish…That’s such a great exemplification of exactly that. So you remove his Jewishness and what are you into? You’re into Gnosticism…" — Raven (85:44)

5. Rise of Structure-Seeking: The Attraction to Catholicism and Orthodoxy

• Response to Moral Relativism:
  Ed traces the wave of young men flocking to highly structured churches to the bankruptcy of 60 years of relativism fueled by the “God is dead” era and the feelings-based “Jesus Movement”:

  “So what do these young men want now? They want structure. But they've gone too far to the other side.” (106:19)

• Warnings on Extremes:

  “We can’t be too much freedom, too much limitation. We have to have that balance.” — Ed (109:53)

6. Spiritual Warfare: Responsibility, Distraction, and Strongholds

• You're in a War
  Ed prepares to launch an intensive spiritual warfare course, warning that becoming a Christian "puts you on the battlefield," making spiritual attack inevitable.

  “When you become a Christian, you have just stepped on the battlefield...You are not a victim, you have victory. But if you don’t fight, you’re going to lose.” (163:38)

• Distraction as Spiritual Warfare:
  One of Satan’s subtlest tactics is simply drawing focus away from the Great Commission through endless political or conspiratorial engagement.

  “He just wants to skew things a little bit, just get you pointed one other way so that you're not doing the will of God.” (159:35)

• Generational Curses and Responsibility:

  “If you make a covenant knowingly or unknowingly, you've just given an entity legal rights over you…you can break it.” — Ed (172:21)

7. Personal Responsibility & Humility in Leadership

• Handling Influence & Spiritual Teaching:
  Ed and the hosts discuss the weight and danger of influence in spiritual platforms and the perils of both pride and public sparring online, advocating returning all glory to God and repentance when wrong (155:04–158:10).

• Freedom and Growing Up Spiritually:

  “The freedom we have in Christ can be scary. It’s a responsibility as you grow…when you are a young Christian, you should probably abstain from [things like Halloween]. As you grow…you can bring things back in…” — Ed (132:01)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On resisting deception by knowing Christ:

  “If you know who [God] really is, then you know who he’s not going to be.” — Ed Mabry (08:48)

• On problematic tendencies in “truth-seeker” circles:

  “This venue, that pursuit of truth, is exactly what will be hijacked…and if you continue down this…I’m watching people, you know, significantly higher intellects than myself rely only on their own understanding and then come to Gnosticism, to demiurge…” — Raven (11:49)

• On the dangers of spiritual pride inside the Church:

  "If they are being completely dogmatic and not saying ‘I could be wrong,’…I think that’s intentionally being deceptive.” — Ed Mabry (26:33)

• On Christian-Zionist politics:

  “Should we…say bad things? We can criticize what’s going on with that [Israel], of course we can. Because God did.” — Ed Mabry (51:01)

• On the single greatest safeguard against End Times deception:

  "The best way to deceive anyone…is to present it as something that it’s not. If you present Jesus as someone who is not [what] he is…you can make him anything you want.” — Ed Mabry (79:11)

• On excessive focus on the wrong battles:

  “We’re called to make disciples of men. The right answer is if you pray to God, ‘Thy will be done.’ That is the only right answer.” — Ed Mabry (72:48)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Knowing God in the Age of Deception: 07:42–11:49
• Misleading Doctrines & The Truth Movement: 11:49–16:56
• False Apocalypse Theory: 15:36–17:06
• Christian Zionism and Israel Debate: 41:01–71:00
• Hegelian Dialectic & The Vatican’s Endgame: 63:07–69:02
• Jesus’s Jewishness & Deception: 77:12–85:44
• Rise of Structure-Seeking Catholics/Orthodox: 99:44–110:44
• Spiritual Warfare & Responsibility: 163:38–168:09
• On Distraction as Warfare: 159:35–161:21
• Generational Curses & Breaking Strongholds: 172:21–174:07

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Final Thoughts & Epilogue

The 2025 year-in-review on Nephilim Death Squad serves as both a warning and a rallying call for discernment, humility, and deep relationship with God. The episode exposes the myriad ways deception seeps in—through geopolitics, religious institutions, shady doctrine, and even distraction itself. With humor but sobering clarity, the hosts and Ed Mabry urge listeners to avoid both spiritual pride and paralyzing fear, to seek balance, to study deeply, to grow in responsibility, and above all else, to know the Shepherd’s voice for themselves.

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Further Learning

Ed Mabry and Faith By Reason:

• FaithByReason.net — Bible study resources, spiritual warfare pre-registration, and more.
• Patreon.com/FaithByReason — Early access, exclusive studies, Q&As, books, "Jehovah Story" Bible study.

Spiritual Warfare Intensive:

• Planned for 2026—year-long program, practical tools for defensive/offensive spiritual warfare, breaking strongholds and generational curses.

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“If you know who he really is, you know who he’s not going to be.” — Ed Mabry (08:48)

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Transcript

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[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad. After a nice long holiday break. I hope you guys had a wonderful holiday. I had a wonderful holiday. I am David Lee Corbeau, aka the Raven. That is Top Lobster, aka Mr. Nasty. That's your camera. Camera four, camera five. Before we get into today's guests, a little reminder that a great place to Support us is patreon.com/now/ephilim Death Squad. Oh wait a second. Before we do that. Say hi, Nancy.

[Top Lobster]

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[Ed Mabry]

Whatever.

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[Top Lobster]

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[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

30 second time appearance, 30 seconds. It probably is something like that. Welcoming back to the show Ed Mabry, which I think is a great way to come back from the holidays. Actually, I'm. I'm glad that we're doing this. Now before we get into the show, Ed, let's talk about where everybody can find you.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah, guys, thanks for having me back. And by the way, the intro was awesome.

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[Ed Mabry]

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[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

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[Top Lobster]

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[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

I heard it was just about that dude being gay.

[Top Lobster]

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[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

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[Top Lobster]

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[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Well, don't spoil anything. I haven't watched it yet. I've been watching Righteous Gemstones, which is.

[Top Lobster]

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[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

It's a hard show to watch when you go to the 501 and where.

[Top Lobster]

Can they find you, Ed?

[Ed Mabry]

Yes. So you can buy [e-mail] is the. The main site there is where I've been doing everything I've been doing for. Wow, over 10 years after 15 now you so fine.

[Top Lobster]

If you mean to tell me that you do more than just like little season debunking.

[Ed Mabry]

I know it sounds crazy apparently I, I know all I do is just go around doing smacking down little season people. That's it. And this is just, you know what I have what I do on the side to make people think that I have more than one hobby.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

No, actually they're called little seasoners, thank you very much.

[Ed Mabry]

It's actually the opposite. I I the little seasons in my rear view mirror, but people keep bringing it up and anyway, no, I actually like to help Christians understand their faith and enhance their walk with, with our God. So that's the true mission of faith by reason and, and also destroying bad doctrine and that's which deceives people. That annoys me. Which is why I smack down things like the little season because it's deceptive and it's really messing with people's relationship with Jehovah. That's the main thing. And also as you see here we have my on my Patreon, which is that's where all the action is. That is a patreon.com/faith by reason. You join Patreon, you get new material as soon as it drops goes there first even before it goes onto my regular site. You also get be a part of the Q&As and you get discounts or free books. You can also be a part of my monthly Bible study where we go the entire Bible in one year from the supernatural point of view. And actually we are wrapping it up this first year of it. We can talk about that in our year in review. But January will be the last show. I just did the December show. So we're wrapping it up with the book of Revelation, finding out how the story ends. We call it the Jehovah story Bible Study because the Bible is God's story. It's, it's a narrative and it's. And why do. Why does he tell you his story so you can know him. That's why you want to hear anyone's story. The purpose of the Bible is not to learn. It's not a history book. It's not a biology book. It is a story of a person who wants you to know them, understand who they are, how they feel, what their, what their will is, what their goals are and what and how they feel about you. That's what the Bible is for now. That's how we go through the Bible from that standpoint.

[Top Lobster]

That's awesome. Let me just give you I, I feel like we give him a lot of praise. But that Patreon page I remember like first scrolling and it's like there's a couple things here.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Now it's a library of, of research.

[Top Lobster]

I'm looking through and I'm like, wow, this is like, and, and it looks great too.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

Like this is a source.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

We've been talking about this a lot and I was actually just talking with my wife about this, where my wife, it's, it's so important to know God. I think we're in like crunch time.

[Ed Mabry]

Yes.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

We should be using whatever resources we can, you know, get in your Bible, understand scripture, have an intimate relationship with God. Because if, if we're correct about the, the scale of the deception that's coming and it's just one of these things that popped up this year and you know, it's kind of been there, but it's this alien disclosure thing.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

If, if, if what our good friend Timothy Alberino says, which is the Antichrist is going to come from this, you need to know God. And the way I was describing it to, to my wife is like, if somebody said, you know, my, my wife stabbed somebody. I know I can't say the words stab somebody in Walmart. I would say one of two things. Either you've got it wrong because I.

[Top Lobster]

Know my wife, period, or, or, or.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Did they deserve it? They might have deserved it.

[Ed Mabry]

What were they doing?

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

The point is, you know, when you know somebody intimately, it's very hard for somebody to lie to you about that person. So it's the same thing for God. If there is some Antichrist coming, something that will take the position and, and present itself as an alternative to Christ or even as Christ, but it's not really the only way you're going to be able to defend yourself from that is, is by knowing Christ.

[Ed Mabry]

Right. You, you hit, you hit the nail right on the head because that, that's exactly a similar example. I don't use my wife stabbing someone because if she did, first of all, I wouldn't be that surprised. And secondly, my first question would be, okay, what did he do? Because, you know, yes, she, she's a just woman, but that's perfect because one of the issues that a lot of Christians have that I had too growing up was that we see God the way society has presented me, presented him, which is as this unknowable far away entity that's just sitting on a cloud waiting to, with a hammer in his hand, waiting to bop you over the head every Time you do something wrong, that he's cold and indifferent and doesn't care about you and that, you know, Jesus is a sweet, lovable, human magic teddy bear. And you know, God, Jehovah is like, you know, this evil stepdad who wants to punish you. And, and, and of course, that's a deception. A deception from the enemy to keep you from being intimate with, with Jehovah, which is what Jesus came to give us. Among other things, he came to restore the relationship that we're supposed to have with him. So again, as you said, if you know who he really is and you know who he's not going to be. So. And that's why one of my biggest pet peeves is any type of deception or anything that, that paints. Gotten in the wrong picture. Like, you know, our, our boy Billy Carson and people like him who will sell, say, you know, Jehovah of the Old Testament. Is this ev. Urge. No, it's not. If you read the Bible, I mean, if you study the Bible, not just read it, but study it, you will see it's the opposite. Jehovah's like the nicest one in the world. He just says, here, I want you guys to be happy. Here's, here's your, here's your own planet with everything you want on it. And just, you know, let's just hang out, let's just walk and talk in the cool of the day. And everything he does after that is a reaction to the things that we do that we've done to harm him. And then. And he gets his feelings hurt. I mean, imagine this, that you can hurt God's feelings by not loving him. Because I'm doing a Genesis series right now and I just. And I'm in the middle of one on the. Of the two trees, the Tree of Life and the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. And the question is, why would God even put this tree in the Garden of Good, the tree of the Knowledge of Good and evil, giving people the option, giving Adam and Eve the option of like, of rejecting him or. And disobeying him. Well, because he wants us to love him. And love is a choice. It's not a feeling. Because, you know, we're all married, we all have kids. You're not. You. You love. We love our wives, we love our kids, but we're not always happy with them, but we still love them. So it's not a feeling. It is a choice you make to put someone ahead of yourself. You have to choose in order. So in order for you to choose to love God, there has to be an option to not love him. That's why he put the tree there. So can you imagine how vulnerable he's. He's intentionally made. The God of the universe who created everything has made himself vulnerable to us. We can hurt him. And that's just staggering. That's the God of the Bible, not some angry, you know, vengeance God as people try to claim him to be. So just to put a, to finish up this point, the purpose is to know him, to know his character so that if someone presents him as anything that's not him, you know, oh, that's not the God I know. And that's what again, what faith by reason is all about.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah, that's, that's huge too. Like I've been going through this thing recently where I'm realizing for all of the information that I have in this whole like truth or conspiracy movement, which like, you know, that is what got me to the show. And so I'm not saying that the pursuit of truth is, is unimportant, but I recognize like that venue, that pursuit of truth is exactly what will be hijacked and what will be leveraged is our own understanding which we're warned to, to not lean on. And if you continue to go down this, you know, it's solely my own pursuit of this information that will get me to the end of it. You're going to find yourself in some sort of gnosticism. You're going to find yourself in some sort of demiurge, you know, kind of a scenario where I'm, I'm watching people, you know, significantly higher intellects than myself rely only on their own understanding and then come to this conclusion that I'm recognizing is like this bottleneck. It's a funnel. It leads you to this place and you don't have.

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[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

You know, it's the same thing that God was telling Job, right Is like, where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? It's like we're only here for this little blip in time. 70, 80, 90 years. Top says we used to get 150 before the Jews ruined it for us.

[Top Lobster]

Whatever, 120, 120.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

But it's a very short amount of time. So the idea that we can grab it all and understand it all in this short amount of time, likely what's going to happen is you're going to come to a bunch of really bad conclusions. Like maybe Jesus was a Pleiadian or some goofy like that, which is a lot of what we're, we're, we're coming up against.

[Ed Mabry]

You know, isn't it interesting that of all the so called religious figures, if you're a secular person and you can you hear this all the time. Well, you know, all the religions are the same. Jesus, Muhammad, Krishna, all that. But okay, if they're all the same, how come everyone wants to co opt Jesus into their movement?

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Ed Mabry]

You know, whatever movement you have. Well, Jesus is an alien, Jesus is an ascended master, Jesus is whatever. You don't say that stuff about Muhammad, you don't say that about Krishna. You only Jesus is the only one people want to warp into what they want him to be or don't want people to believe about him. And another thing you said, Raven, that's really important is that, you know, in the times we're in and the times that are, I think are coming upon us pretty shortly, there's going to be that deception of, of miscasting God and Jesus into these different things. And like the first book I did, which you can get on Patreon or Faith by Reason, it's quick read, it's like five bucks. It's called the False Apocalypse and it talks about the, we talked about this before during the Revelation series where the six seals, which a lot of people, a lot of commentators believe that is the beginning of God's judgment. And my, I have a different take. I think it's actually a final satanic deception. And one of the, the point of this, when you get to the sixth seal that's open, you know, there's a great earthquake and the. The sky is rolled up like a squirrel. And the stars of heaven, an idiom for the angels of the fallen, Elohim falling down to earth. When this happens, like the people who are still on Earth, the bad people say they go into the mountains and they fall on and say, fall on us and hide us from he who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb. They believe that these things are coming from Jesus. And I think that's a deception that these things are actually. These are. They have a satanic source. Because to usher in the Antichrist, remember, the Antichrist is going to be a false Christ. Well, in order to have a false Christ, you have to have a false apocalypse. So I think this is a false apocalypse that will usher in the false Christ. And they're going to paint God and Jesus as the bad guys because that term, wrath of the Lamb is not found anyplace else in the Bible. It's because wrath is. Is the purview of God. God is the just, is. Is the judge. And he's going to pour out wrath later in Revelation. But Jesus, that's not his job. So when they say wrath of the Lamb and the people who are saying it are the evil people. Well, first of all, he's not the Lamb anymore. He's done with that time. You see me is going to be the conquering king. So. So the Lamb is the. Is the persecuted, you know, crucified Jesus. Interesting. There is, interestingly, there is a religion here that always portrays Jesus as forever on the cross. We'll talk about them in a bit. But every time you see him in these particular churches, he's either a baby or he's on the cross.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah. Well, something interesting about that religion and maybe it's worth getting into. Just in the spirit of this episode right now. It's named the wrong thing. Spiritual Warfare.

[Top Lobster]

We're going to name it Year in review.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

But we're going to do one. I didn't want it to be confusing, but we'll. We'll.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Good point. Solid point. Yeah. So one of the things that did happen over this last year within the Catholic Church is there was some addendum made some very official movement to make Mary. What was it, an official intercessor or something between you and Christ, or. I forget exactly how it was worded, but go ahead.

[Ed Mabry]

I think. I think it's. It's piggybacking on something that happened a few popes ago. Pope John Paul ii, who was the. Who became. Was a pope, you know, most of Most of my life. He, during his last days, he did one of his edicts, Ex Catherine, where he proclaimed that Mary was the co redeemer with Christ. So they were, they were like, they were a tag team partner. Like if you go back to pro wrestling days where it wasn't just Jesus, you know, Mary was his partner, you know, she was his understudy or whatever. So that, you know, it's not, it's not just Jesus, it's Jesus and Mary. Mary, she's co redemptrix. So you can pray to her for your salvation just like you can pray to Jesus for it because she's right there with him. Which, and we've talked about this before, the Mary of Catholicism is not the, the Mary from the Bible. It's. It's basically, it's the mother child cult. It's goddess worship. She is actually Simmeramus, the, the. The wife slash mother of Nimrod. And that's why you can look see all over the world you have these, these statues of a mother and the divine child. It started with Simramus and Tammuz. It's Isis and Horus is. It's, it's. It's Aphrodite and arrows. Every culture has a mother. You can look in Asian cultures, you can look in cultures of East Indian cultures. They all have the same thing. Why? Because when the languages were confused at Babel, they took this false religion started by Simram. It's all over the world and they just have different expressions of it. And when Catholicism started, which is basically an amalgamation of Christianity and paganism, they just renamed the statue of Simrabus and Tammuz Mary and Jesus. Anyway, the point is. Yeah, you're right, Raven. That's. That was started with Pope John Paul ii. And if it's being re emphasized today. It's not. Doesn't surprise me.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Well, here's, here's another one.

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Visit t mobile.com if you could put this on the stage top. I added it to the bottom there. So another guy who's been, you know, in and out of the media right beneath that this year is Diddy. And. And to be perfectly honest, I've. I've not given much of a crap about whatever Diddy's doing or didn't do or did. He didn't done it. He didn't do it.

[Ed Mabry]

Did he did it?

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Did he didn't do it. But he has this back tattoo and this is a Zuli Danter, I believe, or I'm sorry, Ezeli Danter, which is a voodoo goddess. And you could see here that she is often depicted the exact same way, this mother and child situation. And so, you know, I'm not. I know I talk a lot about Catholicism and whether or not you can co op these saints and these different characters in order to hide your gods. I mean, certainly you can, right? Santeria or voodoo or hoodoo have all done the same things, but it is worth mentioning that I don't think that that is something that Jesus is. Is excluded from because we just laid out here going into this conversation the many ways in which Christ is co opted by this movement or that movement. So it happens to all of them. But that I think right there, that Danter tattoo on the back of P. Diddy and, and how Big Voodoo is or, or Santeria is in the hip hop industry. Given that whole guy. What's the guy's name, the guy who did the 67 thing, I forget. He's a rapper. Big rapper right now. Kids love him, whatever. But he is an open practitioner. He's a, A Santos, I believe is what he, what he called himself. And this is a guy who's in the hip hop industry who's, who's regularly practicing these rituals, sacrificing animals, doing all these things. And is he the guy?

[Ed Mabry]

Is he? I, I, I, I'm into old school rap, as you can probably tell, but. And so I hear a few things here. I don't know if he's either one doing the Super Bowl.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

I don't know if he, if he is.

[Top Lobster]

No. That's why a bad bunny's doing the Super Bowl.

[Ed Mabry]

Okay.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Bad Boonie.

[Top Lobster]

He's just some Spanish guy. But I think, I think last year this, this year has been what we've been doing on the show and what Ed's been doing and like, like walking us through is looking at this. Not, not to be offensive, but it's this obvious deception.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah, right.

[Top Lobster]

And I feel like now we're moving into this weird, more nuanced deception that can get tricky. And it's something that, like, obviously I'm, I argue with Matt every day, but it's true. He's like, hey, we have to be careful about when we're pointing at the body of Christ. Like, like, are we just going to cut off parts of the body? Is this. And I said, well, we have to determine is this a part of the body of Christ? I feel like that's a, maybe an.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Example would be good. Who do you think? Maybe not who, or maybe at least the character type of somebody who would, who would be?

[Top Lobster]

Well, Timothy Alberino is one, Derek Gilbert is another.

[Ed Mabry]

Okay.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

And it's not, it's not.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, I know. You see, you see the conundrum, the conundrum that I'm having here. But like, you know, Jude 1 4. For there are certain men crept in unaware, who were before of old, ordained to this condemnation. Ungodly men turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness and denying the only Lord God and our Lord Jesus Christ. This is not something that we should be confused about. This is something that, like, this is where the deception was always going to come from. Billy Carson, when we look at him, you go, yeah, this guy's, this guy's a wanker.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Obvious.

[Top Lobster]

It's Obvious. And it's easy. You can go. And you can just pull the carpet from him on Joe Rogan and then just go, start running.

[Ed Mabry]

Yep.

[Top Lobster]

But, and I, again, I don't, I don't, like, I just don't know where to. How to navigate these waters. Because, yeah, like, now we are pointing at parts of the body of Christ who. I think the question is like, are you being intentionally dishonest or are you fooled yourself? But, like, where we're going, am I fooled?

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

That's, that's perhaps a good question. I think you should always be asking that.

[Top Lobster]

But where we're aimed is not in the same direction. So that means that we're talking about. We're talking about, you know, bad doctrine, and that's bad for the people who are watching and listening us. Listening to us. So I, I think that's going to be 2026's issue, and that's going to be a pretty delicate issue because the time is getting closer where what you just said, Ed, about this deception of Jesus coming back and people being confused about his character and his nature, that's going to be called into question. So, like, our thing with Albarino would be. He's like, all aliens are not demonic.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Well, apparently. Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

Pleiadians, tall whites, like these ones that look good, that they come, they give you these prophecies. He's like, no, well, you know, the, the Grays, the small grays, are purely demonic. And I'm like, cool, let's keep going. But he won't. And I'm like, well, that's where the deception is going to come in at.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Well, that, that's actually what I called out pretty early earlier this year, I think we were talking about this, where it's like, if these things, these grays are automatons, then it's a fantastic deception to paint them as the bad guys.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

When they're really just technology. And then maybe, maybe even. Because this is what Cliff High said. And this is why I remember saying that Cliff High said there was going to be a war between the Grays and the good aliens. And I said, but from where I'm sitting, the Grays are. That's like beating the. Out of your vacuum cleaner. They belong to a higher intelligence. They are some sort of biomechanical automaton.

[Top Lobster]

Are you going to run into the guy that says, prove it?

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

And I got no proof.

[Top Lobster]

Yes. Like, I mean, but how do you prove something supernatural?

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

And, and also, what should we be telling people just to prepare for this? Should we Be telling them like, some are good, some, I don't know, Ed. I feel like, yeah.

[Ed Mabry]

So. Well, okay. Yeah, a lot there. So let's start with one thing you said. That was the first thing you say. You're talking about how it's going to be more nuanced because, you know, you have the, the, you know, the overtly deceptive people who you can easily dismiss because they, you know, you can tell quickly they're, they're just ignorant, like, you know, Carson and people like that. But then you have Christians, maybe real Christians, maybe not, who are coming in and kind of wrapping it in the Bible and wrapping it in Jesus and saying, I'm a believer in Jesus, I'm a believer in the Bible. And, but here's this deceptive thing, and the question has to be, is it intentional? And that's really important because just because you're putting out bad doctrine, it could be, as you said, maybe, maybe you're just wrong. And I can't get on a high horse and say, well, you know, I, I've never been, I've been wrong plenty of times. I had, I've had to redact things on faith by reason, not because I was trying to be deceptive, but because someone who was smarter than me or pointed something out and said, you know, you may want to look into this more. And so I've had to change it. But I wasn't trying to be deceptive. I was doing the best that I could. And, and I always say, hey, don't believe a word I say until you check it out for yourself. I always make a strong line of delineation when I say, this is just my opinion. I think this is, could be happening, but I could be wrong. And I try to give both sides of it. And I try to say, you know, how could I have been wrong on this? Or if I am wrong, here is, here are the things like with the little season, that if, here's what the Bible says, if these things are happening, then we're in a little season. If they're not happening, then we're not. It's just that simple. And so it, I could be wrong there. It's like some of the people who I've talked to, who are, who believe in the little season, I think they're sincere. I don't think they're intentionally trying to deceive people. I think that they believe it for the wrong reasons, which is why I end my book on the little season by addressing people who sincerely believe it because of some misconceptions they have about the character of God that it looks like he, he's abandoned us. It looks like Satan's in control. I think that's one of the big things I always hear from commentators is, well, we're in a time of great deception and God doesn't seem to be doing anything. So this must be the time where Satan's in control, say, well, no, that's not so. The, so we have to be very careful there because there are some people who are intentional and are intentionally misleading people. And I think one of the signs of that is if they are being completely dogmatic and not saying, hey, you know, I could be wrong or question me on this. A good example is Gary Wayne, who I like a lot. I've been on shows with him. He and I disagree in some places. I think the majority, 90, we're in line. He does great research on the nephilim and, and the, and, you know, all the, the, the Templars and, you know, the 13th family. He does great with that. We disagree on a couple of things, like pre Adamic civilizations. We disagree on that. I don't think there's any such thing. I believe Adam and Eve were the first humans created for my reasons. But, but, you know, when we're on the, we're on a show together, Gary's not like, no, it's my way. He says, okay, I, I see what you're saying, Ed, but here I have a diversion opinion. That's fine. But when someone comes out and says that, it's, this is what I believe. And if you don't believe what I believe, you're a heretic and you're being, and you know, you're not with God. Well, that's the problem. I think you're, I think that's intentionally being deceptive and it's going to be tough because they're going to lean on some of the, you know, the common misconceptions we have like that, you know, Jesus is too nice to punish anyone because you look at, you know, the. Jesus is so nice, he would never, he would never send anyone to hell. That was the big thing with the emergent church movement in, in the 80s and 90s. And when, you know, there were books out, there was a. I forget the name of the emergent pastor, but he put out a book called, you know, love Wins. And, and the conclusion of the book is, no one's going to hell because Jesus would never do that because he's so sweet and so nice. So you're building this.

[Top Lobster]

It's been so long that, that you've. We haven't spoken to you since the whole Kirk Cameron debacle. Oh, he had a whole issue with this guy, Jacob Israel, same sort of thing. And it's just like. Yeah, I don't know, the Bible doesn't really prove that out that they're. That hell doesn't exist or. I'm not even sure exactly what the argument is or that people won't go there. It says that, yeah, it'll be cast in. People will go to hell and then that will be cast into the abyss in the end. Assuming the people still in it. Yeah, but yeah, that, that's another issue that came up this year that was kind of what happened here.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Well, it's really, I think important to. Because, you know, we've gone. You said Jacob Israel. We have the Albarino thing. You were going back and forth with Derek Gilbert recently. And I don't think that there's anything wrong with that. I think actually it's what needs to happen right now over the last year with, you know, the death of Charlie Kirk or whether or not he's dead in Valhalla or, you know, some sort of witness protection thing. Who the hell knows?

[Ed Mabry]

You know, we'll get to that in our year end review. Yeah, with my year in review. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

What, what that did was created this huge wave of people coming over towards Christianity. And something that I've been asking on the show quite a bit lately is are you coming towards Christianity as an institution in an effort to stick your nose up at a previous, you know, cultural establishment like, like leftism or some like that, or the trans movement or.

[Top Lobster]

Whatever it is usage of Christ is king as like a hammer rather than a proclamation.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

It's like, do you believe that in your heart or are you saying, you know, you. Is that what you're doing? Language. I know, I just wanted to, you know, really kind of this table so. Or are you after, you know, a real intimate relationship with God? Those are two different things. And I think because of all of these people coming to the table, a discussion really needs to be had about the nuance, about the detail, because it is nuanced and it is detailed and it's, you know, it's the history of the world, it's the nature of reality, it's the nature of our existence, it's the nature of God. And if you're just glomming on to it to pick a side. Well, okay, cool. Like, welcome. Let's talk about this then. So if you're having contention with your your brothers. And if they are truly your brothers and they are part of the body of Christ, I don't think there's anything wrong with that. These conversations need to be had and needed to be had publicly because everybody is in a kind of a crash course right now. I mean, I keep coming at it from that angle because I truly believe time is short. It's just something that I feel in my spirit. It's like all the signs are pointing to it and I don't know if we're. What exactly we're coming to. I have my suspicions, but it feels like we're coming to something. Yeah. And it feels like learning.

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[Top Lobster]

Important but the problem is that like when. Now when I'm questioning someone like, like Derek Gilbert who's been on the show.

[Ed Mabry]

Can you tell me really quick what's going on with that? Because I. I used to listen to Derek Gilbert probably like maybe a year or so ago, and he's said a couple of things. I, like, kind of turned me off and so I kind of stopped listening to Skywalker. I think it was what he was on.

[Top Lobster]

It's like prophecy. Watches prophecy.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah, one of those. But, yeah, what's going on with that?

[Top Lobster]

I think his research is really good. I like. I like his stuff. We have.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah, I have a couple of his books.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah. No, I mean, he's. He's good at what he does. He's great at talking as well and even typing. There was a point where in the interview a year ago or so, I guess it might have even been this year in review.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

No, no, I think this was a long time ago. This is.

[Top Lobster]

David brought up the star of REM Fan and like, the symbology behind it, like a baby.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

I did. I. I brought it up quite innocently. I didn't know that this is a guy that was going to get offended by that.

[Top Lobster]

He got. He got like. Like the. His countenance fell. Oh, that's the best way I could say. Like, he didn't like that. And then got kind of like, argumentative about the idea of this and we're like, all right, let's segue. Because, like, I didn't mean to touch the whole Jew thing. So I follow him on Twitter and he said recently they were talking about the USS Liberty and the narratives behind it. So the, the mainstream narrative would be it was an accidental attack. Israel has paid reparations to America and the, the troops that were killed. But the real story, to me, the more believable story, which Derek Gilbert also agrees with, is that the United States was in contact with Egypt during that Six Day War, and they were. The NSA was on that ship and they were sending information to Egypt, possibly about Israel. So Israel took offense, like actual offense, and sunk the ship, killed 34 men, injured 100 and something. And I'm like, okay, now that you're admitting that that narrative. This is from Derek. I said, what. What does this, like, how does this play out? He said, you know, Ben Shapiro should use this defense.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

That was it.

[Top Lobster]

It doesn't matter. It was that he's, like, giving advice to Ben Shapiro when he's defending the USS Liberty. And I go, that's understandable. And, and actually, if I am Israel and there is somebody who's giving counterintelligence. I attacked them. But Derek Gilbert lives in the Ozarks and I live in Florida. So we are American, right? So when a foreign country attacks, this is all I'm trying to bear out with him. I'm like, okay, I understand what you're saying here, but when a foreign country attacks your country, what happens here?

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

And he was also serving it up, like, oh, almost like it was justified, like, instead of. Instead of Ben Shapiro.

[Top Lobster]

And it was justified from the perspective of Israel.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Justified in the sense of, like, it was almost like Ben Shapiro should say this out loud because it's. It's okay.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah. I'm trying to explain to him, like, Derek, this doesn't make it better. This makes it. This makes certain thing almost disgusting to most people, especially in today's day and age. You're not talking to just a boomer audience here. There's a large audience. And now all of this work that you've done in the past, I'm like, why are you choosing such a weird hard line here? And why are you confused about the state and the government of Israel versus whatever Israel is in the Bible? God's people, There's a remnant of chosen people. I don't. And again, to say, like, outright, we know that every single one of them are in this land right now. The prophecy was fulfilled and not some Rockefeller stuff or maybe a mix of all that. I'm just like, the facts are a foreign country killed your countrymen. We shouldn't be okay with that. And you shouldn't run excuses for it. And it took me two days to, like, draw this answer out of him. I was like, what is. What is the answer here? Are you okay with this? Are you okay with other kind? And. And he just kept saying, well, you know, well, if this happened, if this. Well, what would you think about that? And I was like, I'm not asking you that. I'm asking you a specific question. And it, in my opinion, it wasn't satisfactory by the time I did get an answer, which was that he is okay with it. And I'm just like, I don't know where to put you now, dude, because.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

It is like, it's this Christian Zionism thing.

[Ed Mabry]

Yes, yeah, we're going to touch on that.

[Top Lobster]

I'm also very conflicted about this because now, like, re. Revisiting my ideas on Israel, especially like, after being. Being in Matt's shop and like, talking with Matt a lot. I don't hate Israel. There is. There's extreme nuance to be had to this. There is, there is a government that's doing wicked things. There's people that are doing some stuff. There is God's remnant that we should be like, looking at and being like, hey, man, you know, like many times in the Bible you've gone astray, but you'll come back. We know what prophecy says.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

What do you do when they start killing your people?

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

And also what do you do with this idea of Christian Zionism or Judeo Christian values when we're told not to be yoked with unbelievers? Like, that's, that's a really.

[Top Lobster]

But they are believers.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Well, they're not believers in Christ.

[Ed Mabry]

Right.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

That's, that's what I mean. It's like, how do you. I'm not sure how to square that. It seems like that shouldn't be a thing. Judeo Christian values or Christian Zionism, you don't believe in Christ. And Jesus clearly says the only way to the Father is through the Son.

[Top Lobster]

But perhaps I'm wrong, though. I mean, perhaps, perhaps, perhaps, perhaps we should be like, you know, if Israel did make a move, even if it is on our country, if that truly is God's people, are we supposed to support that? Like, I'm, I'm super conflicted because immediately I want to say no, but I'm like, do I want to be on the wrong side of that?

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Well, I, I think the last thing I want to say and I want to kick it to Ed is hurry up. Really helped. I'm going to make this fast. Ed really helped. My understanding of that where it's like blessing and cursing Israel. Does this mean supporting the government and the military, you know, actions and supporting them financially? Or is it a spiritual thing?

[Top Lobster]

Does it mean like looking the other way when they kill your people too? I'm like, that's.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

I think it means like calling them out because Ed is laid out to us the many instances where God is very harsh in his defining of the Jewish people and, and the way that they misstep and the, you know, all their shortcomings, the way he judges them.

[Top Lobster]

Core is a crazy story too. I'm, I'm actually, that might be an exodus, so that's not, that's not the book of Genesis. Maybe you'll get to that soon.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Well, yeah, let's. So, so, I mean, what are your thoughts on, on that, Ed?

[Ed Mabry]

Yes, yes, let's jump into this. This is one of the things I want to cover as my, my year in review from the Faith by Reason. You know, Christian standpoint was this, you know, the big huge trend this year has just been Zionism versus the anti Zionist. It's just really, really coalesced this year. More so than it's been bubbling up for a while. But it's just like really everyone's taking a hard stand one way or the other. There's very little middle ground. So let me just take a step back before I talk about the Zion versus anti Zionist to kind of address your questions where we should stand with Israel. And I know we did a, I did a Q A on this because it was, I was getting a lot of questions similar to yours. Where should we stand on this? We're told that God's chosen people, but we also see them doing some, some, you know, some shady stuff. What should we wish our stand to be? And so two things. Number one, Israel is God's problem, not ours. That's the main thing. God will deal with Israel because I don't want to use the word dispensation because that gets people into really because dispensation is another huge thing that maybe we can talk about because we did the whole thing on the Scorpio Bible.

[Top Lobster]

You've already explained.

[Ed Mabry]

Well, when I say dispensation, I don't mean dispensationalism. Dispensationalism as, as people couch it today. I just mean that during different periods of time, God deals with people differently. I don't think you can deny that no matter what your ideals are. You know, Adam and Eve had the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. We don't have that. That was how God dealt with them. This was, this was, this is how they could choose God or not. We don't have that tree right now. Then you have the patriarchs where you had with after the, the. The earth was divided into nations and God told Abraham, I will make you a great nation and I will bless them, to bless you and curse them that cursed you. Well that really only lasted until the law because Egypt basically chose, they chose. We're going to, we're going to curse them by. We are going to do them wrong. And we put them in, in chains and we made them slaves. And then God that. Then we get to the era of the law. In the law God dealt with the nations again through Israel, through the nation of Israel, but also through the, through, through the law that he's given them. And so the whole point of that was if, if Israel obeyed the law, they would have been greatly prospered. Deuteronomy 28 and other nations would have come to them and said, hey, how are you guys so prosperous? Well, because we obey the laws of Jehovah and if you want to be prosperous too, you can obey them as well. That they were supposed to be God's ambassadors. But now we're not under the law anymore. We're not sacrificing, you know, doves and lambs before at an altar. We're not under the law. We're under, we're at the church right now. We're under grace, which is the Holy Spirit within us. So he deals with the world differently. Right now we are in the church age right now. God is dealing with the world through the church. The great commission of Jesus, when he, before he ascended, he said, go into all the world and make disciples of all men. That is how he is dealing with us now. Now the thing is that Israel was, is not gone. So that's another big thing that certain churches do is they say that the church has replaced Israel. No, Israel and the church, yes, the, the church is a fulfillment of the prophecies of Israel because those prophecies were fulfilled through Jesus. Jesus fulfilled the law and the church, the called out ones come through Jesus. It doesn't mean that, that the, the promises that, that are separate, that God made to Israel are gone. We know this by reading the book of Romans. Romans happen. Paul goes on and for three chapters blatantly saying God is not done with the nation. And by that I don't mean the political entity of Israel. He's, he's talking about the physical descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, whoever they may be. God made unbreakable promises to Abraham. If you go back to the book of Genesis, we'll, and we'll cover this my Genesis study. God made a promise to him and then he, then he fulfilled it unilaterally. It was non conditional because back then they would have this, this ritual where two people would make a, a covenant and one person would say if, if I'll do X, if you do Y. And then they would take animals, cut them in half and then they would join hands and walk between the, in like a figure eight between those sacrificed animals as a blood covenant. It was, that's where you get the term cutting a covenant today. You even, you hear that especially in the military because you cut the animals in half. Well, what happened is God made this covenant with Abraham, said I'll make you a great nation. And then he put Abraham to sleep and God walked between the animals himself. Abraham didn't walk with him, which Means God is saying that I am unilaterally making these promises unconditional to you and he has to fulfill those promises. Romans 9, 10 and 11 is Paul saying God is not done with his people. However, right now we're in the church because the first part of Romans, the first eight chapters are about their spectacular doctrine. In Romans chapter, if you want to know what Christianity is, read Romans 1:8, where Paul goes systematically and says, this is what happened with the fall of Adam and then, then Israel and now we're in the church and this is all the, and this is what the church is all about. However, God's not done with Israel. He says, you know, I. Is God done with it with the Jews? Absolutely not. They're in, put it in hockey terms, they're in a penalty box right now. But then the church age is going to end and that's, and I believe that's going to happen right before what we call the tribulation. And then Israel will be brought back because God has promises he needs to fulfill. The whole point of that is right now where we are. Israel is not our issue. The Jews are not our issue. God's. They're God's problem. So as far as. Should we, can we say bad? Can we not bad things? Can we criticize what's going on with that particular nation? Of course we can. Because God did not only did God speak, I mean read the book of Jeremiah, God just, He like really just rails against them. He calls, you know, you're a bunch of stiff neck jerks. You're. I hate you. You got. I hate you guys. I can't. You guys just do wrong all the time. I'm just tired of you. I'm anger, angry at you. He put them into exile for 70 years. He had other nations come and judge them. The Assyrian empire came and, and like basically destroyed the, the, the, the ten northern tribes and took them into captivity. God didn't, not only did God allow it, God wanted it to happen. Then the other. The two southern tribes were taken into captivity under Babylon. People were killed. So these people because they brought God's promises. God has, if saying something critical of the nation of Israel makes you an anti Semite, then Jehovah's an anti Semite because he said really harsh things about them. But however, he also said if you look, read the book of Hosea, he has. So I think we talked about this before. He had Hosea marry a harlot, a prostitute, because he knew, because he was, he was using Jose as an example. He Says you marrying this prostitute is the equivalent of me being with Israel. He called Israel a and because and then she had a bunch of kids out of wedlock and and Hosea had was. Was told to stay with her even though she was a prostitute, even though she was cheating on you, even though she's having other kids out of wedding out of your outside of your marriage. You are to stay with her and then afterwards you're going to redeem her and you're going to bring her back. This was an example of what God was saying. God was saying, Israel, you guys are hoarse, but I'm going to bring you back and I'm going to comfort you and I'm going to fulfill my promises to you.

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[Top Lobster]

I read it. I read a tweet the other day. Sorry to interrupt.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

It said, yeah, Jesus.

[Top Lobster]

Jesus was born a Hebrew or Jew for the same reason that he was born in a food trough. And I'm like, man, that's like, what.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Were we talking about recently? Maybe. Maybe it wasn't maybe something I came across, but this idea that a manger.

[Top Lobster]

Well, a manger is just like. Yeah, I mean, that's where you would. If you're feeding pigs through it, it's disgusting.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah, but you would also put like. Like in a stone manger is what you would put a sacrifice in. Like, that's what you would put a lamb in. I remember I was. Maybe I'm wrong about this, but I was learning this recently. It's like, in a stone manger, you would lay a lamb to be sacrificed. And so the idea that Christ was born in one is, like, super fitting. I don't have the ability to Google that right now, but that's interesting.

[Ed Mabry]

I have to look that up. And I know that a manger is a feeding trough, but I didn't know that you could. I'm not saying you're wrong. I can look it up. I hadn't heard that before.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

That's in it. Well, it's something. I'm not gonna have to.

[Top Lobster]

You haven't heard it because I just made it up.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

It might have just. I might have just totally did that. Oh, somebody said that. I just read this too. You're corrective. And I don't know where the hell I came. I don't know where. Apparently other people have learned this too. I don't know. Something must have gone viral. We must have seen this. Which doesn't mean that it's true. It might just be viral. But anyway, this is a really good segue into something that's been kind of weighing on me lately.

[Top Lobster]

But he hasn't even gotten to Zionism. Oh, please.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

No, continue, continue.

[Ed Mabry]

Okay, yeah. Okay. So. So that. That's. That's our stance towards Israel. We can condemn anyone who does wrong. God does it, we should do it. And we don't have to excuse them because they call themselves Israelis or Israelites, whatever. Whether they are or not. I mean, I still. I'm still going back and forth over if these people are actually the physical descendants, but it doesn't matter.

[Top Lobster]

It's.

[Ed Mabry]

It's a political nation and we don't have. They do. They do not deserve any special deference from Christians because that's not our role. You will not see anything in the New Testament where it says that we have to give a special deference not only to any nation or that calls itself Israel or even to the Jewish people. It doesn't say that. It doesn't mean you have to treat them badly, but it's not saying that. We have to put them on a pedestal. That comes from. Now we get to the Zionist versus anti Zionist, including the Christian Zionists. And that comes from man.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Right man, creating all of these different rules, regulations, and cultural movements.

[Ed Mabry]

And again, I'm going to be honest with you, I grew up in a Baptist denomination, and while not overtly Zionist, it. It did. You know, they did talk a lot about, you know, Israel, God's people and so forth and so on. They're the good guys and all the Arabs are the bad guys. And my opinion is just, you know, now is there are no good guys. You know, everybody over there is. Is a bad guy to some degree. I mean, you're killing children on both sides. You're not. You're not good.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

By the way, it does say here, so this is a Jewish practice of raising an unblemished lamb in Bethlehem for temple sacrifices. So the same way you would want, like an unyoked red heifer, the manger is. Is made to protect the lamb from.

[Top Lobster]

From being just like every other. Every other story in the Bible that we read. It's like multifaceted.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

I mean, what a crazy.

[Top Lobster]

But it points at the same thing. No, I love it.

[Ed Mabry]

I mean, that just adds. Beautiful. Yeah. Again, it. It just adds more resolution to it. I love that. So, I mean, that's the coolest thing.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

That's one of the coolest.

[Top Lobster]

I don't remember as to what you're saying, Ed, though. Like, the sentiment now is like, it's. It puts you in a tricky spot because it's growing and there actually is action against you and the American people. But I. We're not. We're not called to, like, take our own action against these people. And, and to Matt's point is like, yo, if that's God's people, if there is even one of them in Israel, I don't want to have that kind of blood on my hand. You know what I mean? Like.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah, because if you notice and you notice and you. And you shake your fist at some point when you've laid out the crimes of the Jews, the question is, now what? Which is a really dangerous question.

[Top Lobster]

It's also, like, it. This might be the same sort of idea as like in the garden when Eve Tells God that. No, Eve tells. When she's speaking with Satan about the tree, she goes, yeah, no, we're not supposed to even touch it. But God never said that.

[Ed Mabry]

Right, exactly.

[Top Lobster]

Maybe A.D. this is like, I would talk with Matt about this. Maybe Adam said that. And it's one of these things where it's like, stay away from the tree. Like, you tell your kids, like, don't even look at the fire.

[Ed Mabry]

You know what I mean?

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Right. Don't even look at it. Don't even think about it.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[Ed Mabry]

You're trying to be extra safe. And I get it. Yeah. And I'm not for at least let's go bomb Israel or anything like that. I'm not saying that in the least. I'm saying that it's. I'm letting God handle Israel because that's his purview. Well, but I will call out perhaps.

[Top Lobster]

Perhaps the church has developed this idea of like this strong Zionism because they know these guys are going to do some wild stuff.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Stuff.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

But it's just like, hey, like, if we have these people just like supporting them no matter what, when this wild stuff does happen, they're not going to go and make this error. But it's like, this is not acceptable either because now you're putting, you know, this is not.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

So it's not the truth.

[Ed Mabry]

So we have the two sides. We have, you know, the Zionists obviously, who are in the land or who support the land. And then you have the Christian Zionists who are, like you said, they believe that Israel can do no wrong. And as I said, I grew up in a church that, you know, didn't overtly say that, but it was, you know, kind of revered the Jewish homeland for that reason. And I was even taught my, one of my mentors, Chuck Missler, he was very much, very pro Israel. And, you know, whenever there was a conflict between Israel or any of the Arab neighbors, he would always be on the side of Israel. And so, and because I was following him and, you know, and following the mainstream news, I was like, yeah, you know, the Arabs are the bad guys. Or Israel's this little tiny nation and they're always getting attacked by these people who are suicide bombing him, which is wrong. This, it's wrong to kill anyone. So the, the Arab Muslims, whoever, who are suicide bombers, they're wrong and stupid. Why don't you kill yourself and kill other people? That's, that's crazy. They're wrong. But, you know, also indiscriminately killing, you know, people in, in Gaza who Aren't fighters. That's wrong too. We're starving them out. All these we can call out wrong. So you have this one side, you have you know, Christians and, and yes it does have some roots in C.I. scofield's commentaries where you know, he is very much pro Zionist. So you have one side, then on the other side you have the exact opposite. You have people who believe that Israel can do no right, that they are the great evil in the world, that they're responsible for everything. They control the media and they control and they're the ones who are funding some of these Zionist, Christian, Zionist pastors. And there may be some truth to that. I mean I've learned a lot this year that has been disturbing because I, I would tell you that maybe before this year, maybe you know, the past few, five, six, ten years ago, I was probably more on Israel's side than on the side of the, of the, of the surrounding nations because there are, there are allies. There's only so called democracy over there. And you know, the rest of them are Muslims and Muslim, you know, in Islam is not compatible with Christianity. You know, they're enemies of Christianity. So I was always on if I had to pick a side, I pick Israel and say Israel has right to defend themselves, which every nation does. But I've been learning more and more about a lot of the funding that's been happening and it's interesting because when you look at so you have extremes on both sides. So you have extreme anti Zionist Israel can do no wrong on one side. The Zionist and Israel can do no right on, on, on one, on the other side. And when I see that and I take a step back and everyone has to take a, take a position. And I never took a strong position when I was in school. You know, they had the divest from Israel people and then you have the, the Jewish lobby on, on campus saying their whole thing and I, I was like, okay, well I'm not going to get deeply involved in anything because I got my own problems here in the United States. That's a foreign country. You know, you deal with your issues. But when I take a step back and this, I'm really surprised more people especially in the truther community aren't seeing this. I'm seeing a Hegelian dialectic. So for those of your viewers who may not be as familiar with what, what that is, it's very simple. You have, you have a goal. You have powerful people who want a goal and they know that goal is not going to be palatable to the majority, the elites, they're a small group of people. Less than 1% of the population, 99% of us don't want what they want. So they can't overtly make their goal happen without support. So what they need what they want. So let's call their goal the synthesis. So what they'll do is they will fund two sides that are extremely distasteful. So one side will, they'll fund one side that's distasteful on one end and the other side is distasteful on the other end and there seems to be, they're incompatible. And then the elites come in and say, well, let's take the good from this side and what we like from this side and what they like from the other side and we'll just make a synthesis to solve everyone's problem. A good example of this is capitalism versus communism. So what? The elites want their synthesis. They want world government, they want to be the rulers of the world. Well, nobody wants them to do that. And, and volume wise there are too many of us to. They want, we will not submit to them. So what do they do? They fund two sides. They fund capitalism, which basically says that anyone can be wealthy if you, you know, if you work hard and blah blah. However, capitalism requires an underclass. Everyone can't be wealthy only if you can be wealthy. Everyone else has to work for them. But you can be, but you're not going to be. Then you have communism on the other side that says everyone can be equal, but you're going to be equally poor because you know, wealth is a measurement of having more than someone else. So communism says, hey, everyone could be equal, we can all have the same thing, but we're also all going to be equally important. It's going to be no one better than anyone else. Those are the thesis and antithesis. The problem with communism, the problem with capitalism, it requires a underclass. The problem with communism is that it inquires dictatorial force to make people not take anything more than what is the bare necessities. So no one likes, so what's, what's the amalgamation? The synthesis is, well, you need to have people with the opportunity to get whatever they want. However, you need a strong hand to guide them. That's the synthesis of world government. But they fund both sides. So whenever you see two sides that are against each other, then you should ask who's funding both sides and what is the synthesis? So when I look at Zionist versus anti Zionist, I step back and I say that's A Galilean dialectic there people are being. They're both well funded. The Zionists are well funded. The Christian Zionists are well funded. They got a lot, a lot of money. When you get to Charlie Kirk thing one of the controversies is that he was, he was TPUSA was getting a lot of money from so called Zionist organizations and they're, they're the rumors out that Kirk was like maybe kicking against that and maybe that's has something to do with his demise. I don't know. I haven't done that investigation but they, but that, that's one of the rumors but I know a lot of these pastors are getting money from Zionist to. John Hagee is an example. Used to listen to him a lot when I was younger. He is dying to wood. I don't know if he's. I think he's still alive. He's dying the wool for that. On the other side you have well funded anti Once you have anti Zionists who are just vociferous now. Candace Owens, Tucker Carson, that idiot Fuentes who I'm like by the way, how are you a white supremacist with the last name Fuentes?

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

But anyway that whole dude is, is completely. I mean he's like. He hates women, he hates like wife guys. Like he's like basically this 90 pound obvious homosexual.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah. With a truly jacked up hairdo by the way.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

The whole thing is, is very strange.

[Top Lobster]

It's funny to see him do a little bit of an about face on, on Israel now. So.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Well this is something that I am. I think you know when you're talking about Hegelian dialectic I think you're hitting the nail on the head but I think it's a multi layered one.

[Top Lobster]

Oh it's so, it's so multi layered that it's like well let me, let.

[Ed Mabry]

Me give you my idea and I want to get your opinions. I know I'm talking, let me wrap this up. So when I look at this my question is okay, I see Hegelian dialectic so I need to see ask who is funding both sides and what might the synthesis be? Well okay, who is funding or where's the money coming from for the anti Zionist. I see a lot of Catholic money there. All the big time anti Zionists. If you dig a little deeper they're Candace Owens, Nick Fuentes. Tucker Carlson is not overtly Catholic but he, I think he's Episcopalian but he's, he's trending that way and a lot of them seem to have some Kind of Catholic or Orthodox backing in the Catholic Churches has a ton of money. The Vatican, I don't want to say. I don't want to diss the Catholic people. I have no problem with Catholic people. I have a problem with the Vatican. That's a lot of funding happening there. Okay, that's pretty over. So. So if you look behind them, I see the, I see the back and here's my thesis on that part. Then you look at the Zionists. Well, okay, well where are they getting their money from? Well, Rothschilds and things like that. Okay, great. The Rothschilds. Where the very wealthy trillionaires. Where's the Rothschilds get their money? You know Meyer Amshel Bauer, who became Lord Rothschild, he wasn't just. He was a. He was broke on the street. Who funded him? He got funded from other bankers because they, some of the other ancient, more ancient bankers went to the background and they made him a Jewish guy, the front. Because you know, everyone hates bankers. So let's put a Jewish person on the front line so they can hate him. His bankers were the Medicis and the Orsinis, the old Venice bankers of Venice. Who are they bankers for the Medicis or Cinnis. They were the bankers for the Catholic Church. So if you take.

[Top Lobster]

It's just Ouroboro, like the snake feeding itself.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah. If you go back and this is history, this is not something I'm making up. You can. There are TV shows about the Medicis. They were, they were the bankers of the Catholic Church. Why? Because it was against the Catholics could not charge usury, which is, you know, they could not lend money at interest. So they just had front people do it. The Medicis and your seniors did that. They faded to the background. You don't hear much about them anymore. They're still there, they're still powerful. They're the black nobility. They funded the Rothschilds. So Zionist gets money from Rothschilds, from Medici Zorcini's Catholic Church. So when I see who's funding both sides, when you get to it, I see, I see the Vatican funding both sides. So what's the synthesis? If you have. I hate Israel, I love Israel. What's the. What's the synthesis? What is the. What is the Vatican always wanted? They want Jerusalem. That's what they did the Crusades for. But. And who's behind the Vatican? Fallen angels.

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Visit t mobile.com the Fallen Angels want Jerusalem because there's no. Jerusalem has no intrinsic value. There's no oil there. They're not even a coastal city. They're inland. They don't because most major cities are built on at a harbor for trade. There's nothing inherent about Jerusalem that makes valuable to any logical human being. It's valuable to God because that is where his holy mountain is. The Mount Moriah where Abraham was going to sacrifice Isaac. It's the hill that Jesus was crucified on. It is the hill where Eden was the guard. I mean it's not physically there obviously. It's in the spiritual realm. Satan wants Jerusalem because that's. That's where God's holy mountain Is that city sacred to God? And if. And that's so at the very top of the list people say who's controlling the world is the 13th family. Is it the bad you Know it's fallen angels. Fallen angels are the ones at the top. The Vatican is, is, are their people. The Vatican's funding both sides of this. So I think the synthesis is. And we get to this in the book of Revelation. They want Jerusalem. That's, that's going to be the synthesis. The Catholic Church will run, come in and say, look, you guys are fighting over this land. Will, will take it. And we'll make, and we'll, and we'll make sure that the Gazans are protected. But you know, Israel have their place here too. So everyone's. We'll have our two state solution, but we'll broker the deal because we're the holy ones. That's. This is my theory and my theory only. But this is how, how I see the Hegelian dialectic working. That's the synthesis.

[Top Lobster]

This is also something that I've been guilty myself of even thinking or I don't even know. I might have even like tweeted it.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

But not like paying the J place.

[Top Lobster]

No, no, but about like. All right, if this is a holy land. It is. It's where Jesus was sacrificed. His blood sacrifices is a mountain of God. There's so much stuff that happened in Jerusalem. So there's something about that land, that place there that is special.

[Ed Mabry]

Well, one quick thing. Just give me, give me one second. Because I put, because I put. I have this in my, in my, my, my Bible study. The land is a character in the Bible.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Oh, right.

[Ed Mabry]

The land actually has some type of. It's going to sound crazy, but hey, look where I am. The land has some kind of sentience.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Ed Mabry]

Drink. When Cain killed Abel, God said, his blood cries out from the ground. It says. And God tells the, the Israelites that if you don't, when you go to the promised land, if you disobey me, the land will vomit you out. So the land is a character. It has some type of awareness, some kind of sentience. Something is special, spiritually special about that land and that's why the fallen angels want it. So go ahead, Top.

[Top Lobster]

Well, yeah, I was just looking up even, even like the story of Koro, which we mentioned before, where the, the earth opened up and just ate a bunch of people. That's also there. Yeah, there's something about this, that specific place.

[Ed Mabry]

Yep.

[Top Lobster]

And then it, I guess I make the mistake of going like, well, who should be in this place? Believers of Jesus Christ. Right. Like, I don't know, the people who actually worship the one true God, the one that, that belongs to. And you know what it's one of those things where it's like, yeah, I'll call for that, and then they'll give it to you, but it'll be the Catholic Church. And then I'll go, oh, no. And there's nothing. Honestly, there's nothing we can do anyway. There's really nothing you can do from stopping this. But, like, I think we're watching that happen. You're watching them be inserted in there, put in there, whether they are the same Jews or not. But it might not even matter.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

I think they're gonna matter.

[Top Lobster]

I mean, then they'll take them out and do a little switcheroony.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Well, it's not that it doesn't matter. It matters, but it's like, what is our.

[Top Lobster]

Well, what does it matter if, like, if you put a counterfeit there or if you put the real thing there? Well, it's just a placeholder for. For the Antichrist to come in and set up and set up his temple.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Right, right. So in that way it matters. Right. Like, this is the thing that progresses.

[Top Lobster]

Is there's no way to tell anyway. I mean, another thing that's interesting as well. Israel has, like, pretty strict laws, I just found out, against like 23andMe and other kind of DNA testing.

[Ed Mabry]

Really?

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

They don't allow it to happen to their own populace, Is that what you're saying?

[Top Lobster]

The misconception is that it's not. It's not illegal in Israel. This is one of those little very funny things that they love to do.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Just within the fish wire. No, no, it's.

[Top Lobster]

They said. They said you, like, you can ship it to there, but it's got to be for, like. Like approved medical purpose or something like that. But you just can't do it, like, recreationally.

[Ed Mabry]

Really.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, I think that would. That would really. Again, not that it matters, the lineage of the people that are actually there, because I'm sure it's all mixed up. Well, yeah, that's the whole. But that's the whole point of it.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

So whether there is a counterfeit there or not, I think that maybe Ed is. Is pointing at the right thing. It's like they're gonna get. They're gonna get taken out of there because it's like one hand, the left hand is like, push them in and then exposed. All this crazy stuff that they're doing. There's a reason why we're seeing it. And then the right hand is going to come in and take them out. And most people will cheer for it.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

You know, and there will probably Be one like a thing that they do that even the fundamentalist Christians that are Zionists and disavow. Yeah.

[Ed Mabry]

That they got it.

[Top Lobster]

That they'll eventually go, yeah, well, that's.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

What that guy used to say. Cliff High. He was like, they're gonna bomb a nuclear facility in Iran and then cover a third of the planet in nuclear fallout.

[Top Lobster]

Which is why I'm like, I'm arguing with Eric Gilbert. And I'm like, hey man, even if they bombed, even if they bombed, you.

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[Top Lobster]

Visit t mobile.com and he's like still support Israel. And maybe he's right now because you're. We're in such a situation that there is no real correct answer here.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

The criticizing Israel, which I think is fair, is admittedly a Slippery slope where if you just sing their praises, you're gonna be all right.

[Top Lobster]

You're not gonna.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah, but you're not gonna make the mistake of, I don't know, casting a, a judgment that's gonna end in the.

[Top Lobster]

Persecution sake of fulfilling biblical prophecy to bring about the Antichrist.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

There's no right answer. Unless we're looking like.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

No, there is a right answer. It's the Great Commission. We're called to spread the gospel. That's the right answer.

[Ed Mabry]

We're called to make disciples of men. So my. I think the right answer is if you pray to God, thy will be done. That is the only right answer.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah. One of the things I see coming from this, you know, that's a potential that I hadn't even considered. And I, and I. Now that you've laid that out that.

[Top Lobster]

Way, the Church and think about the Catholic Church. Elation.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Oh, my God. Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

Not just the Catholics. I mean, it would be a huge.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

W on the Internet. Right.

[Top Lobster]

The Orthodox, they don't particularly like the, the, the Catholic Church, but they would be ecstatic to see Christianity take over.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

The homeland of Christianity. And kind of me too.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Ed Mabry]

Well, they've been, I mean, again, look at what they've been trying, they were trying to do for like, you know, the last thousand years with the Crusades. They were, they. Why were the Crusades there for? To take the Holy Land. Well, they couldn't take it by force. They kept getting, you know, going back and forth with, with the Catholic, okay, we can't do it by force. We'll do it another way. Well, and I think this Hegelian dialectic is the way because again, this could be wrong. I could be totally off kilter. But I do believe there's a Hegelian dialectic. I could be wrong as far as who's funding it and who's, who's coming in for the synthesis. But that's what I see when I look at who could be funding both sides, because some of these people should not be platformed. I'm like, how are you getting this many followers? It's artificial. But the point is my only. But my main source for backing this up is the, the greatest source of truth, the Bible. We just know that in the end times, the Antichrist is going to be in the temple claiming himself to be God. So there will be a messianic figure who is accepted by the Jews and who is accepted by the world. There's your synthesis. Who's going to say, I am God and stand in the temple and he's going to be worshiped. So that's the ultimate goal. Whether it's done by the Vatican or someone else. Eventually someone is going to unite that area. The Jews are going to like him at first and the world is going to love him. Yeah. So it's going to happen.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Steve Quayle and Timothy Alberino all say that it's going to come through disclosure and that the Vatican is going to aid in that disclosure.

[Ed Mabry]

You're like, yeah, well, the Vatican's already said that when they see an alien, they're gonna. When they see them, if they encounter an alien, they're going to baptize into the Catholic Church. They've said that. They're on record as saying that will be their stance. If there is, you know, know life from another planet, they'll baptize it. So I, I just. They're positioned well. And the reason they're positioned well is because they're not overtly on either side. I think they're covertly on, on, on. On both sides. You don't see them directly. So they don't. They're not the bad guys here. They kind of step. They're the most. One of the most powerful, if not the most powerful institutions on Earth. And funny how they're just not in this fray at all.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah, it's. They are busy engaging the backdrop in the Goddess worship, the divine feminine.

[Top Lobster]

So this actually leads into more of the 20, 25 year in review. So with that, we've got this extreme push towards Christianity or what. I don't know what it is. I'm looking at, like, TP USA with the fireworks and all this stuff and the guy holding up the rosary.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Are you ready to grieve?

[Top Lobster]

I don't know.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Are you ready to grieve?

[Top Lobster]

And again, I'm not trying to, like, trash churches or mega churches with the smoke. We got smoke machines in here. Hell, yeah. We got a fog machine, baby lights. I think smoke machines are biblical. I think they are. I think light shows are kind of biblical, too.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Like, you know, pretty sure there were.

[Ed Mabry]

When.

[Top Lobster]

When those people saw. When Jesus was born and the angels were in the sky, it was probably like a light show. There's probably fog.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

I'm pretty sure there was. In the manger, there was a fog machine.

[Top Lobster]

Oh, yeah.

[Ed Mabry]

Hope there was not an air horn. I hate those things.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

The baby was sleeping.

[Ed Mabry]

Nails in a chunk.

[Top Lobster]

So we. We have this weird idea of Christianity, whatever it is, and people flocking to it.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Top Lobster]

But we also have that idea of Jesus plus we were talking about pre show. And that leads into a kind of a big moment on. On. On our show with Ed Mabry, we had Jason Demachuk.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Oh, wait, wait, wait. There's something I have to touch on. I had it written down. I was trying to insert it before we got there, because I thought you were actually going here. But that is the number one. So. So within the Segalian dialectic and things that are hoped to be achieved by this, you know, synthesizing, one of the things that I'm realizing seems like what they're doing is if you make everybody notice the Jews and everybody's aware of the crimes of the Jews and everybody begins to stew in their hatred for the Jews.

[Top Lobster]

Stupe peters in their hatred.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Stu peters in their.

[Ed Mabry]

It's actually really good.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

You know what. What ends up happening is Christians get caught up. And I. I was caught up in this place. I didn't know. You know, still a baby Christian currently. Still so much to learn. I was in a much worse place only months ago. And it's like what you then have to do is try to compartmentalize Jews and the Jewishness of Jesus Christ. And what happens, that's a fun one today, when you remove the Jewishness of Jesus Christ. And it seems to me, what could be achieved by doing that? Let's say you have this new era of based Christianity who is willing to argue to the death of them that, like, Jesus wasn't a Jew, which almost is a moot point. I mean, he's not issuing predatory loans. He's not running a pornography company. He's not, you know, at the head of Hollywood. None of these things are happening. That's not what you did. What Jesus is advocating for. However, is there a danger in separating the Jewishness of Jesus Christ from, you know, the Messiah? And is that danger then, that he is now open for interpretation? Which leads to this Antichrist thing, right? Where it's a. It's a Jesus, but of a Pleiadian variety, or it's a Jesus of an ascended master variety. It's a Jesus who was not called Rabbi, who was not Jewish.

[Top Lobster]

It's a Jesus that, like with the teachings of Buddha, that kind of idea, right?

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

And so are like, is that also part of this? And I got. I know I say it every time, but I have to give flowers where flowers are due. This is coming from Donnie Darkin. At least this is where I've seen it. Donnie. Donnie Darkin is a guy who is. Is saying this loudly, and it's forcing me to tango with that. Well, what does happen happen when you remove that element from Jesus Christ, what then can take its place? And I feel like that could well be one of the things that they hope to achieve by this.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah, well, it really, it goes back to what I said we were talking about at the very beginning of the show is that the purpose is, is knowing God, knowing Jesus, who they are so you know who they're not. And the best way to deceive anyone about any aspect of the Bible is to, is to present it as. That's something that it's not. If you present Jesus as someone who is not Jew, who is not a, A physical descendant in his, in his lineage from Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, well, yeah, then you can make him anything you want. It's like when you take a verse out of context, and I talk about this a lot when I talk about it in my little season debates is like, you know, my, one of my big issues is this is they take. They'll cherry pick a few verses here and there completely out of context. You can do that with anything. I mean, I give the example, you know, there's the verse in Psalms where it says, you know, the Lord is my rock and my salvation. Well, if you take that out of context, oh, you're saying God is a rock. So every time I see a rock, I see God. So if I worship nature, I'm worshiping God. Well, we know that's not true because in context, first of all, it's poetry. It's, it's, you know, so it's not saying that God is a physical rock. And also, you know, so if we, and also the language of the time, you know, a rock is a steady place. It's just basically saying that God is. You can rely on God, so you have to keep it in context. But if you take it out of context, you can add. You can make it mean anything you want. So if you take Jesus out of the context of being a Hebrew, an Israelite, well, then you can make him anything you want to make him. But if you keep him in the context that he is, the Jewish Mashiach, no matter what you happen to think about the Jewish people, then you have to understand that he's fulfilling the specific laws that God has made. So that's why, when. That's why I say the difference between reading the Bible and studying it, reading it, you can make it mean anything you want. If you study it, that means you're putting it in context and in doctrine, and that limits you. You so Jesus cannot be a Pleiadian. He cannot be an ascended master. He cannot be what the Muslims say he is. He's Issa. He's a prophet. Second to. To. To Muhammad. No, you don't have that liberty. If you read what if you see who he is in context. He is a descendant of Abraham specifically because God made those promises to. To the his descendants. And he is a fulfillment of the law. Meaning that he's Jesus will not do anything that contradicts the law. Jesus will not contradict anything else in the Bible. That's why when someone says, oh, I'm a New Testament Christian because the Old Testament is bad and evil, you don't have the liberty of doing that. Jesus said that behold, I come and the volume of the book is written of me. He is the word. He's the Logos. That means that Genesis, Exodus, all of that is Jesus. You can't divorce him from that.

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[Ed Mabry]

So those are the guardrails. So what? So this is where, where how you fight against deception is by saying if someone says Jesus, is this. Okay, great, let me look at all the prophecies of Jesus in the Old Testament. Did. Is it say he was our space brother? No. Does it say that he came to give us a message of love and to teach us how to be God and to she and to see the little God inside of ourselves? No. He came because we are fallen, we are sinful, we deserve death. He died in our place and, and can give us infinite life back. That's what. So you have to limit yourself to that. So to answer the question, yes, absolutely. If you divorce him from any fact about him, then that opens up a crack that you can fill in with something else and you alter him. So that's why it's so important to know exactly who he is, exactly what the doctrine is and all the context and it, it's not easy. It takes a ton of study. I mean, if I live another 30 years and study the Bible every day, I still won't have it all. But you have to keep studying. You have to keep knowing who he is more and more. And that's, I think what we're trying to do here.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

This is really interesting.

[Top Lobster]

The attacks of, of Satan or the adversary, the deceiver are so. What's the word? They're so like complicated that you don't.

[Ed Mabry]

Clever.

[Top Lobster]

They're, they're clever. Like sometimes you underestimate it because there are a lot of ham fisted things that are done by. Yeah, this other side. And you're like, shut up. That's like, that's so stupid that it's laughable. But this one here, it's like here are the crimes of Israel and the Jews laid bare. And then you go, yeah, checks out. Looking at all that. That's horrible. And then you have some pagan coming and going. So you worship. Worshiping a Jew.

[Ed Mabry]

Yep.

[Top Lobster]

And then I guess the answer to that is like, like, yes, end. Yeah, yeah, they're, they're like. But like, man, do you see that deception there?

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

I don't know if Ed sees that. That's all over Twitter.

[Top Lobster]

That's old.

[Ed Mabry]

No, I haven't seen it.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah, dude, that is all over. And it's making, especially if you're a new Christian, compelling.

[Top Lobster]

It's Compelling though, like, oh, solid point dog. Then on the other side of that you've got like this other weird false Christianity. It's like almost nothing is pointing at.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Well, I don't know if this is true, but Chuck from Guam said said it so I'm going to go ahead and read it. And I do trust Chuck. He said Hitler, said Jesus is not Jewish, Galilee not Jewish and took out hymns referring to his Jewishness. That's fascinating because there's the plot there. He's a pagan occultist, you know, homosexual Rothschild or whatever.

[Top Lobster]

This is why I say like ham fisted. Nothing new under the sun, but that's it.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

That's such a great exemplification of exactly that. So you remove his Jewishness and then what are you into? Well, you're into, you know, the, all of these pagan gods and you're into you know, just basically Gnosticism. I mean, you know, they're the sort of the staple of occultists. When you think about the, you know, who was really close as a regime to understanding all of the, the mysteries of the universe. It's like the Nazis. You know, we literally make movies about them being in Antarctica and flying UFOs and everything. Like they're directly associated with that kind of, of occulted hidden knowledge. They crack the code and what do they do? Well, he's not Jewish, so let's remove that element from it. Like, yeah, dude, there it is.

[Ed Mabry]

What they do is. And this is really important. I mean you can go through my Bible study with me on Patreon if you want to. That's awesome. But I will give you the cheat code that will help you avoid deception is so not only do you have to know God and Jesus, but you also have to know how Satan works. And he is consistent. He has no imagination. He. Once you're judged by Jehovah, you no longer have a free will will. You are locked into doing what you do. Satan has done the same thing over and over again. And that. And it's a certain, not just deception. This is where I get into arguments with the little season people. Because if you have believed that we're in that season, basically Satan is virtually omnipotent because he's, he's hidden history, he's. He's made Jesus go away, all this kind of stuff. He's not that powerful in the Bible. The only thing Satan does is deceive. How does he deceive? By being grandiose and thunder and lightning and, and being a guy in a red suit, maniacally laughing no, he takes a verse of scripture and he twists it just a little bit. What did he do with Eve? He asked a question. Did God say, you know, you can't eat. You can eat of any fruit? Yes, he did. Well, he said, we can eat. We can eat all of any fruit except for the tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. Or. Or we'll surely die. Oh, you won't surely die. You'll become like the Elohim, knowing good and evil. That was true. You will know good and evil. But he also put a lie in there. You won't die. When Satan tempted Jesus. Think about this. This guy was tempting Jesus, who co created him. How did he tempt Jesus? He didn't. He used Bible verses with a slight twist. He says, cast yourself down because this verse in Deuteronomy says the angels. He will give his angels power to come down and. And bear you up, lest at any time you cast your foot against the stone. That is a Bible verse. He quoted it, that verse verbatim. Correctly. He quoted correctly, but he took it out of context and he was using it to. To. To tempt Jesus. He said, you know, turn these stones into bread for indent. You know, if you. If you're the son of God, turn the stones into bread. Jesus could have done that. But Jesus quoted scripture to him. You know, man should not live by bread alone, saying, that's okay. You want scripture, I'll give you some more scripture. So that's what he does. He is very subtle. And that's what's so tough for Christians. I mean, if you're not a Christian. Yeah, you can be fooled by a lot of different grandiose things. But if you're a Christian, the worst deception is someone quoting a Bible verse and just twisting it just a little bit. Just a little bit. The best lie is sandwiched between two truths.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah. Yeah. I came across one recently. Saw another pagan on Twitter. Thousands of likes on this. And they quote a scripture from Matthew. I forget what it was. Where God, Jesus is talking to the Jewish people who were just about the stone of. And he basically says that, like, you're like. You're like gods. But he's. He's making. So he goes, oh, look, see, Jesus said that we're gods, therefore we're gods. And I'm like, no, no.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Then he said that monotheism is. I know what you want to talk about. And he goes, monotheism was the worst thing to ever happen to Christianity. Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

And I'm like, but no, Jesus is. Jesus is Actually condemning the Jewish people who are about to stone him. And he's using Psalm 82, which is like a reference about God judging these Elohim, that they will. They are gods, but they'll be judged like men. They'll be dead, dying like men. And it's like, that's what he's talking about. But if you want to just pick that one part of the scripture and tell these thousands of people that like.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

And retweet this shit, dude, that one felt especially nefarious.

[Top Lobster]

It's all super nefarious. And I was. I answered him back very. Like, I said, oh, this is actually what he's saying. They have 15 likes. I was like, that's incredible. Yeah, it's incredible. I have 50,000 followers. I get 15 likes. This guy has 10,000 followers. Thousands of that. But that's what people want to hear.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yes.

[Ed Mabry]

Timothy Paul says this when he writes to second Timothy. He said, you know, in the end times, people will heap upon themselves teachers. I'm not quoting exactly. Basically saying people are going to bring teachers. That will tickle their ears. People will. They say people. Not just people. Christians. He's talking about Christians. Not just. Not secular people. He says, in the end times, Christians will depart from this faith, giving heed to doctrines of demons and seducing spirits. They will heap upon to. Upon themselves or heap to themselves, teachers who will just tell them what they want to hear, tickle their ears. Prosperity Gospel. Oh, Jesus wants you to be rich. And if you have enough faith and give me money, you will be rich. People want to hear that. People want to hear, oh, you can be like. You can be like God. Gee, where have we heard that before? The same lies over and over again. That's why the whole alien thing, whether no matter what Tim Albarino might think is so clearly demonic. All of them, because what. What is their message? You can be like God.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yep.

[Ed Mabry]

Why would you. You mean to tell me that there's biological life a million light years away that has all this technology to be able to travel millions of light years, meaning they're at least like a level three society on a Cardiship scale, and they're going to come here not to conquer us or to help us, but just to say, oh, the Bible's wrong and you can become my gods? Really? You come millions of miles, millions of light years to give us the same message as the serpent in the Garden of Eden?

[Top Lobster]

Okay, well, I mean, you know, Timothy Alberino, I guess he has his ducks in a row because he's he's proposing that, like, anal rape is more demonic than eternal deception. And I think it's the other way around. I just think they're all. They're all pretty demonic.

[Ed Mabry]

They're no good.

[Top Lobster]

What's a little eight or eight between friends? You know, like, we can. Look, we can get past that, right?

[Ed Mabry]

Like, what about these guys? But that could be another Hegelian dialect. You have your good aliens versus your bad aliens. Well, what's the synthesis? Well, you know, let's have our. Our mediator, the Antichrist. So, yeah, there might be some type of engineered war between these aliens, but they have the, the same backing behind them. They're all fallen entities. Even if you have some that are the Grays versus the Nordics, they're both from the same source.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah, that's exactly what it is. That's. It's that left hand path, right hand path.

[Top Lobster]

But he loves that stuff. This is the thing he. He loves like the. He's deep into the Charlie Kirk. He's deep into the Republican Party and.

[Ed Mabry]

Oh, he's boomerang.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Absolutely right.

[Top Lobster]

This is the problem, man. And it's like people are following you.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

That's all he's doing. He's stepping up to the line of an event and he's going left path. And then he steps up to the line of another and he goes right path. And he's just like. And it's like, no, it's never.

[Top Lobster]

You're directing traffic.

[Ed Mabry]

It's never that.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

It's never. It's always this narrow path, death through the middle. Like, it's not this other. That they want you to pick this false binary that they offer you up. And, and it's just part of orchestrating the theater of everything that we're going to. And it's, it's strange because, you know, a lot of this just came from us kind of looking at the way he was saying, anybody who associates demons with aliens is an idiot. And it was in this mocking tone and it wasn't offering nuance.

[Top Lobster]

Well, it's not just that. It's. It's people that I've referred the book to that have read it, that come back to me, and they go, you know, this is what I gathered from it. I'm like, that's a problem if that's what you gather from. Because I don't know what Timothy Alberino.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Well, what do they gather? What are they saying they gathered from it?

[Top Lobster]

They gathered that. Basically what he's saying. He's like, well, he said that they're not all demonic and that some of.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Them are space homies.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, exactly. And I was like, no, I don't think that's the case. But he was like, well, I read this in this book here, and this book is well produced and it's been manufactured like a thousand, hundred thousand times.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

And you're just an idiot.

[Ed Mabry]

Idiot.

[Top Lobster]

And I'm like, I am an idiot. But this is wrong. Yeah, something is. And I don't know if that's what he meant to do, although it seems like that's what he is meaning to do more and more that we like interact with him. But I'm like, well, what you wrote here, that's, that's the fruit that it bears. So we have to address that. That's a problem. Because I really like this guy. Even though he dressed like Indiana Jones.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

That's actually why I.

[Top Lobster]

We got to.

[Ed Mabry]

Well, that's his brand.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

That is his brand. It's a great brand. Honestly, I wish I could. I wish I had the discipline to remain in Indiana Jones garb daily. I don't.

[Ed Mabry]

Indiana Jones is cool, man. I can't, you know, he's cool as.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

He'S just a fictional character.

[Top Lobster]

All right, all right. That's it.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah, I don't know, it's. It's a weird time because, you know, a lot of this, this conversation we're having is like this thousand foot overview of the year that we've been in. And, and it feels like the way that we're going to end this year is, well, what's the big event on the way out? You get Age of Disclosure. You get Louise Elizondo, you get this, you know, definitive step. And as if there haven't been, you know, a bunch of sort of disclosure adjacent documentaries that have popped their heads up in the past five to seven years. You know, we have these events come to pass. The Pentagon says this thing we found.

[Top Lobster]

Off world craft of like doing this podcast just feels like being in a, like a large room and somebody like lighting tiny fires and you just like, you walk over and you're like, stomp that one out. And you're like, yeah, why'd they do that? And then you go, you go over there and you're like, they're doing this. And then you stomp that one out. I'm like, is this my job?

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Well, Spielberg, this is actually in the chat, Spielberg is coming out with a movie called Disclosure Day.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

So it's like all of it is. It feels like it's mounting. And I think that's One of the things that that is inescapable as people who make content surrounding, you know, the pursuit of the truth is it always feels like something's mounting. It always feels like something's right on the horizon. But this disclosure thing, you know, and like I said, we're watching this documentary True legends documentary film series. Steve Quayle, Tom Horn, Timothy Albarino and I thought they nailed it, dude. They're talking about the Vatican and what a role it it's playing in this disclosure and how this disclosure is going to be. I think either Tom Horn or Steve Quill called it the great Deception. The great Deception, right? Capital T, H E and and D E, C. So I mean, you know, you're. And then Albarino says that he thinks.

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[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

The antichrist will come from.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

And. And now what's really strange is like, we're not getting all of that anymore. We're just getting an Albarino. And then, you know what you asked earlier, kind of like what. What the Albarino thing was about. It's really just that simple. It's like you said that once upon a time. Now you're doing reviews of the Age of Disclosure documentary, and you're like, this is fantastic. This is going to catch the normie up to speed on, like, what's happening with the. And it's like, like, catch him up to speed to what? It's. It's a. It's a gigantic lie. You've called it the Great Deception in your documentary where are sound the horns, Timothy Albarino. And I guess it's kind of just guys like us that are. That are. There's other people out there that are sounding the horns of like, I don't know, it feels like we're really. We're really gearing up for that.

[Top Lobster]

I think it's heartbreaking, too, because, like, I like. We like to make fun of him because of how he dresses. But, I mean, you called for that.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

That's.

[Top Lobster]

But I really do.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

You asked for it. You see what you're wearing?

[Top Lobster]

You don't get to. You don't get to swing a whip around Alvarino and wear your hat.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Well, what's interesting about it, we're doing it.

[Top Lobster]

But it's like, yeah, this is like our brother. That, like, yeah, that like, like. What are you doing?

[Ed Mabry]

We.

[Top Lobster]

We lost you.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

We love you.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Come back.

[Top Lobster]

Come back. We'll figure out the money.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Come back to the Lord.

[Top Lobster]

We'll have to pay you. Is that.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

It is a. Christianity alone is not profitable enough.

[Top Lobster]

I don't think so. So, yeah, you got to have a megachurch.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

You got to have a megachurch, Alvarino. If you want a megachurch, we'll make it happen. But what's interesting to me is we talked about, you know, the Kirk thing, and maybe we could even get into a little bit of the. I don't really know. I've not been following Erica Kirk. I know she looks insane, and I know she's driving around a hearse to shooting fireworks out the back and stone cold stunnering people, you know, to pyrotechnics and all this stuff. Whatever's happening, everybody grieves in their own way. But with. With everybody coming to Christianity in droves and then this setup of this disclosure. I'm like, damn, dude, is this the setup? Like, is everybody gonna show up to Christianity and be like, so, what's this about? I hear it's good. And then all of a sudden, disclosure is gonna pop off, and they're like.

[Top Lobster]

Oh, yeah, it is good.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

He's a Pleiadian.

[Top Lobster]

Well, it's as our year in review. Our. I'm looking at our podcast here, Ed, and we were just wrapping up our Revelation series in January.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Damn.

[Top Lobster]

That's how. I mean, it feels like 10 years ago, but, yeah, that's where we were at with this.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

That's interesting.

[Top Lobster]

And it's like, now we're really running with this. Just running with this. I mean, so many people in the past have probably studied this and ran with this, and it was like, wasn't the time. But now it just feels like, man, what the hell, yo?

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

This is how the year started, and this is how it's ending. Almost like a culmination of it.

[Ed Mabry]

So I want to talk about. Yeah, real quick, because one of the things I had on my list kind of dovetails from what Raven was just talking about, which is everyone's coming to Christianity, and there's been a. A big move that, you know, on the surface, it's, like, great. You know, a lot of young people, especially young men, are. Are gravitating towards Christianity. But what I found, and I've got several people comment on this, and I did a Q A on it, is that they seem to be coming to the Catholic Church or the Orthodox Church.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Ed Mabry]

As opposed to the Evangelical Protestant Church. And what's the reason behind that? Because someone asked me about that because I think they have relatives who are doing it. And if you look at. So take a step back and ask. To ask why. And I think why comes down to what's been going on in our culture for the last 60 years or more since the 1960s. 60s. In the 1960s, you had the rise of what we call moral relativism. And it began, frankly, with a response to something that was going on in the churches. In the 60s, you had the God is dead movement. And that happened with people were starting to quote Nietzsche and who. And people like that who were basically saying who were challenging Christianity, really tough for the first time, and saying, you know, if God is good, wise, or evil in the world, all the classic questions. And, you know, who is God? How can you define God? God. And the church couldn't define God. You know, we've been lazy. The Laodicean Church. And so the church decided to go without a. A definitive definition of who God is. They. They. Instead of saying God is this, then they say, you know, God is whatever you feel when you're worshiping him. That's where the Jesus movement came in in the 70s. The Jesus movement is all about feelings. And so if you can't. So the reason they did that is because if we can't. Can't define who God is, then you can't say who God isn't. So it was kind of their way around dealing with those tough questions. And so that's why the church for the last 60 years has been all about feelings and all about. Nothing wrong with worship music, but it's been all about getting caught up in feeling. And I feel the Holy Spirit, and Jesus is whoever I feel he is. That's why he's this loving, kind person who I just. Who's just so wonderful to me. And I just. And so all these songs about Jesus in church almost sounds like. Sound like love songs you hear on an R B station. Because they made Jesus like your girlfriend. So and so part and parcel of that was moral relativism. Because if there's no definitive God, if you can't define him, then there's no definitive good or evil meaning.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

That's fascinating, Ed, because right now it almost seems like the war on definitions, which is what we're dealing with right now. We can't even have a conversation because we can't agree on the definition of a word. Started with the definition of God.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah, it did. Yep. Yeah. So if there's no defender of God, there's no defender of Knievel. That means that. That good is whatever is good for me. But the problem. And that feels good. It sounds great. It's what people want to hear. Whatever I feel is good is good. But the problem is that if you can't define good, then you can't accuse anyone of being evil. Because, I mean, look at the. The great archetype of evil of our time, Hitler. Well, Hitler is bad. How can you be bad if you. If there's no defender of good and evil, if it's morally relative? Hitler thought he was doing good. He thought the third right was great for the earth. He thought this was the best thing to do. He wasn't. He didn't think he was evil. Hitler thought he was doing good. And if everything is relative, then you can't call Hitler evil. And it's. So. It's obviously logically bankrupt because every. Every one of us calls something good and we Call something else evil. So we have, we define something as good or evil, but we make it subjective. So after 60 years of this, I think the younger generation, I guess Generation Z or whatever their, their current name is, there's. And these are the guys coming to the church. They are being, they realize this is bankrupt. We need structure. And especially with men. Now men, we've been told human men in America that we're toxic just by having a penis. That we're just born toxic and that, you know, and men, we're denigrated in society. You know, women can do no wrong. You have, you watch movies, you got a 109 pound woman beating the crap out of 250 pound dudes, which is ridiculous.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

It's my favorite genre.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah, the girl boss, all this, you know, women are smarter than us or better. You know, you watch a sitcom, the, the wife is just competent and wonderful. The dude, the husband is a big dumb oaf. All that stuff is just. And so we're tired of it. The generation, especially the younger generation are sick of this and they feel disassociated. You know, you have the whole incel movement, all these sorts of things. And you know, women are rejecting men. What's the statistic? Statistic? 20 of men are, are banging 80 of the women because of all the, because of the dating apps. And so men are feeling disassociated. They don't know they have no morality. So they're flocking to churches. Why they're choosing the Orthodox and Catholic churches because unfortunately the non Catholic churches are the quote unquote. Protestant churches are still caught up in that whole Jesus movement. There's no structure. Jesus is just, Jesus is just this big loving wimp. Let's be honest. That's how Jesus is portrayed. This tall, skinny, handsome white guy who would never harm a fly, which is not Jesus. It's actually, that's. That depiction of him is based on Cesare Borgia who was the son of Pope Alexander. That's not what Jesus looked like. He wasn't, he wasn't white, he didn't have wear a goatee. He was a, he was a Middle Eastern Jew who was a construction worker. His, his dad, he was in his father's business. His legal father Joseph was a carpenter, he was a builder. Jesus was hauling around planks of wood and stone. He. So he was. Yeah. Anyway, the point is, the depiction of Jesus is that this wimpy guy who, who doesn't do any, who has no more backbone. They don't want that. They want structure.

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Visit t mobile.com so the thing is, and this is something I learned from John Linhart, is that human beings, we need limitations and we need freedom. It's called a conjunction. We, we want freedom. And then the Bible always gives us freedom with a limitation. What did God say to Adam and Eve? You can eat of any of the trias in the garden. Freedom except one limitation. We need both. If you go too far to one end or the other, there's gonna be a problem. The moral relativism goes all the way to the freedom side of the conjunctive. And it's been disastrous. So what are. What do these young men want now? They want structure. But they've gone too far to the other side side. Because Catholicism and orthodoxy are all about structure. Here's who you here's how you worship. Here's where you worship, here's when you worship. Here are the prayers you say. You don't talk to Jesus any way you want. You have to pray specific prayers. You have to rub the rosary beads. You have to take the Eucharist. All these things provide structure, which these young men really want. They want structure and they want morality. So they're gravitating to a church that says, we know absolute right or wrong and we're going to give you the exact structure that will help you do it. And the Orthodox Church does it the same way. Not to, to the same degree as Catholicism, but they have their priests. And you can't know the Bible on your own. You are not, you can't read the Bible. You need a priest, somebody in a, in a robe to tell you what this really means. It's extremely structured. And you look again, like him or not. And I don't. Nick Fuentes is speaking for a lot of these disassociated men. He is Catholic. You have, you know, the, the Candace Owens is that she went hyper Catholic about a year and a half ago. You, you know, talk about Tucker Carlson. You name all these. Michael Knowles, who I think is a reasonable guy. He's also, you know, very Catholic. And, and you have the Orthodox. You have a Jay Dyer, very smart guy, great researcher, very Orthodox. He went from, from an evangelical church to Orthodoxy because he, he wants to rely on the church fathers. That's what Orthodox, the difference between Catholicism and Orthodoxy is. The Orthodox is all about, you know, following the footsteps of the church fathers who are men. That's a problem. They're fallible. And some of them have some pretty messed up doctrines, like an Augustine, you know, he was, he was very anti Semitic origin. He denied the existence of the nephilim. So the Orthodox, they don't go for that. So the point is that they're going, they're going too far to the limitation side. Too much structure. And I think they're going to eventually get tired of that and they're going to be looking for guidance because they went all the way to the freedom side with moral relativism. Now they're swinging all the way back to the structure side. Too many limitations because the Catholic Church, Orthodoxy is full of rules. We don't, we can't be all of, we can't be too, too much freedom, too much limitation. We have to have that balance of both. So I think that's why figure eight.

[Top Lobster]

That you were talking about.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

When you said that, I'm like, that's a great depiction of, like, I mean, an animal. If you could. If you could send me the scripture that that's from.

[Ed Mabry]

Sure.

[Top Lobster]

But an animal cut in half in this figure 8 that it symbolizes, like, obviously, eternity. It symbolizes this connection in the middle, but it also symbolizes, like, you're going too far this way, too far that way, but, like, where you kind of have to be is in that intersection, you know what I'm saying? So you can go all the way to the right here, to this masculinity that people desire. And I get why they desire it, because they've been on the other side of this. This femininity that's turned completely toxic. But, yeah, neither of these things are the way that it's supposed to be.

[Ed Mabry]

It's.

[Top Lobster]

It's that balance in the center, which is like. You know, a lot of the things that guy said, Jason, about Buddhism, like this. This balance is like, yeah, these are necessary aspects of Christianity. But then it just. It gets a little tricky with that. But I don't know if we can even get to that.

[Ed Mabry]

But here we go. Yeah, I'll wrap it up with this, because my prediction, probably not necessarily for next year, but I think in the years to come, I think that there's going to be a backlash against the Orthodoxy and the Catholicism stuff, and they're going. And then these guys are going to be completely lost. And I think there's an opportunity for revival when they get tired of both the extremes and want to know real truth. Now, will that happen before things get crazy? I don't know, because we were talking about this before Raven, where you were saying that everyone's going to Christianity with the whole TPUSA thing. And. And if my Hegelian dialectic theory is true and Catholicism is exactly where they want them to go. Because you had this idea that Candace was saying that before Charlie Kirk died, he was, like, praying the rosary and visiting Catholic churches. Interesting. I don't know if that's true or not. I didn't follow Charlie Kirk that carefully, but if she has an agenda, which I think she does, I think a lot of people have agendas. And. And Jimmy Dore, who I think is funny, but that dude is, like, jockeying her heart. I don't know. If you listen to his show, he is, like, her. Her biggest super fan. But. But my point. And he isn't even religious at all. My point is if she. If she's trying to paint Charlie Kirk as becoming Catholic right before he died, well, now he's their sacrificial lamb as well.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

It's.

[Top Lobster]

That's just another thing that it's like, people take sides. People they're jumping on. I'm Candace side. I'm on the daily wire side. I'm like. I'm just kind of interested that this is still. I'm glad that she's doing what she's doing in a way, because, you know, like most conspiracies, you can just kill a president and then that'll be put to bed for a while until some kind of movement comes along years later. But it's like we're moving so fast in it that, like, where she's not gonna let this go. I don't know what her intentions are, but I'm kind of glad that she's not letting the. Because something happened that we don't know. And I'm like, I'd like to know. I think we should get to the bottom of it because it's important to our society and the structure of what's holding us all together that we kind of know what happened with this guy.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

And everybody is kind of every. Not kind of everybody satisfied with blaming a patsy, believing the FBI, and putting it to bed. So, again, this. But it's like one of these things again, to drive you freaking crazy because, yeah, she has some weird motives. I don't know what they are. On the other side of that, it's like the government. All right. And again, now I'm here, and I'm kind of like. I just kind of want to hear. Like, I'm. I want to hear.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

I mean, I'm interested to see. Yeah.

[Ed Mabry]

Like. Yeah, I'm fascinated by it. I mean, she's really interesting stuff. I mean, she's completely abandoned, like the French McCrones and, you know, and being a dude, the. The Mrs. McCrone Bridges. And she's totally all in on Charlie Crook, which I get it. I mean, on. On the surface, you know, apparently they were friends. I wasn't really that I didn't follow Charlie Kirk that carefully before this happened. He was just a guy. I would see him on. On doing debates on YouTube, and I. I love seeing dumb people getting smacked down by good debaters. He's a good debaters. That's. That's really what I knew about him finding out a lot about this. And. And I agree that the official story makes no sense at all. So I'm curious to see where this is going to land. But I'm also trying to always take a step back and look at the big picture and saying, what's the agenda behind everyone on all sides? And you know what. What's really happening?

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Well, if there is an agenda, and I don't know that this is the agenda, but it does seem to me that the Nick Fuentes thing, the big moment that happened recently where he was saying that he doesn't think that people should be allowed to interpret their own Bibles or read their own Bibles, that you should have. Have church elders or, you know, whoever be able to interpret these things for you, because otherwise it results in things like. And I think the example he used was, you know, lesbian pastors or what have you. Like, these things emerge out of people putting their own understanding on Scripture. Maybe there's an argument to be made about that, but I think that's a super dangerous thing to tell people. And one of the. I was talking to.

[Top Lobster]

It's almost like. It's almost like, yeah, there's a bunch of gay churches with lesbians and they're talking about, you know, Mary's femininity and her. Yeah, her liberalism is like, this is the obvious stupid. But the.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

I was listening to that recently where some chick is like, oh, Mary is actually like this side character, but I think she's actually the main focus and starts going on.

[Top Lobster]

Someone's talking about, like, oh, the idea of her virginity just meant that she had, like, sovereignty. And I'm like, these people are, like, so lost in the weeds that we.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Should stone them to death.

[Top Lobster]

This is. I mean, no, you. You can safely discard them, but they're used as this straw man by people.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Who to say, don't read your Bible.

[Ed Mabry]

Right.

[Top Lobster]

And that. Now that's a compelling argument.

[Ed Mabry]

Right?

[Top Lobster]

When you. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

So, but one of the pieces of scripture that. That Matt brought up. And I'm going to use the. The new living translation because I. I can't read King James.

[Ed Mabry]

I'm not doing this.

[Top Lobster]

I'm.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

But it's John 1 John 2:27 says, but you have received the Holy Spirit and He lives within you. So you don't need anyone to teach you what is true.

[Ed Mabry]

For the.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

The Spirit, it's called the anointing. In. In.

[Top Lobster]

In.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

In the other versions. But for the Spirit teaches you, and what he teaches you is true and is not a lie. So just as he has taught you, remain in fellowship with Christ. And it's like this idea like. So I, I understand the Sola scripture kind of characters where it's like, you don't. I mean, right there, it's telling you, you know, You've received this anointing. This anointing is the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is this supernatural aspect of that reveals things to you, that teaches you things that are true. And you only need, you know, other people to teach you. If you don't have that supernatural view. It does seem like a lot of, you know, orthodoxy and, and Catholicism, sorry, is much more. Is. Is much more about like, I don't know, legalistic, text based, information based, very rigid, no inclusion of the spirit. And, and, and I think that that is where you get these things that emerge from it, which is the debate Orthodox. Like, you know, Jay Dyer does that very well.

[Top Lobster]

These are what the letters to the churches are right there. It's like constantly pointing out. It's like, you guys are a little bit too rambunctious. You guys are a little bit too this. You. You guys are just dead.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

So it's like, yeah, we have.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

You remove the spirit from it. Then what is it? Well, it's. It's a. It's a text from which to draw arguments from man.

[Top Lobster]

That. That infinity symbol.

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[Ed Mabry]

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[Ed Mabry]

I want to be clear here. The scripture is, is in, in Genesis, but it doesn't specifically say a figure eight. That comes from, from tradition. It was a Jewish tradition. Not just Jewish. It was actually an ancient tradition because that you would walk in that figure eight. The Bible doesn't say it was a figure eight. It just says that they, they walked between that. Well, God walks between the animals. But it is the, it's historic that they would walk in, in a figure 8 around, around the pieces. So we won't find those exact words of figure 8. But it's just implied because again it was written to ancient people. They would have known what it meant meant. So, so I, I don't want you to think that it's going to specifically say they walk in this, in this particular pattern.

[Top Lobster]

Well, it's, it's also interesting. I mean the meta logo is also that pattern as well.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah, I would be, I would be fascinated to hear Fuentes deal with that piece of scripture that, that we just read here because it's, it seems pretty clear. I mean even, even within the context, you know, it's, it seems pretty clear. It's talking about the anointing, receiving the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit lives within you. So you don't need another man to teach you what is true.

[Ed Mabry]

Right.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

I'm not saying there's not a place for these, these, you know, spiritual guides, you know, but, but it's like as far as a need, it is, it's you and the word of God and the Holy Spirit revealing things to you.

[Ed Mabry]

Here's the thing you. I've been taught. You've been taught. We've all been taught by people who are greater than, than us. But that doesn't mean you suspend your critical thinking aspects. That's the problem. I have a very good friend. Well, maybe we're not as good now. Keep having arguments about Catholicism. He's Catholic, very smart guy, advanced degree. And he, and we. He's a truther. He. We. He will debate anything except what the Catholic hierarchy says about the Bible. And I asked my like, dude, why is it that in every other subject in your life you will openly debate it, but in this case, you check your brain at the door and do and say whatever and believe whatever these people in robes who have a history of not being the best people on earth say. He says, well, because this is there. This is God's church. God anointed them. Who am I to say blah, blah, blah. Okay, here's the issue so we can. The. The verse that I would quote on this, the virtue quote of grave was, was perfect. But I would also add something that Paul said about the Bereans. The people of Berea, who. One of the churches versus the church at Thessalonica. And he said the Bereans were more noble than those at Thessalonica because they received everything with an open heart. Heart. But then they searched the scriptures daily to see if they were true. That is so that's to say you can listen to anyone, then go to the scripture and say, is that, does this conflict with or contradict the scripture? Right. And what, Oh, I don't know, can you read? If you have at least a fifth grade reading level, you can know what this means. If you, if you like what you were talking about, top with, with the, with Mary, her virginity being female empowerment. Well, you know what the word virgin mean? It means you have not had sex with another human being. So if someone says it's female sovereignty. Okay, let me read the Bible. Oh, it says virgin means she's never known sexually a man. Huh. Those two things contradict. Which one am I going to believe? The Bible. The Bible says being a virgin means you've never had sex. So you can reject the idea that it means, oh, she was a sovereign female. It doesn't mean that. So you can listen to everyone, but then let the Bible be the arbiter of what is true and what isn't. I don't understand the Bible. Can you read? Do you have a concordance? If you, if you. And if you're not sure, you have. We have no excuse in our age. You can go to Blue Letter Bible. You can go to Bible Gateway in Blue Letter Bible. It has. In your free interlinear Bible, you can see what every word means in its original language. You can study it. You have. No one has any excuse. I don't. You don't need a priest. You don't need. You don't need me, me or anyone else. I'd love for you to listen and because I, I want to help. But if you don't go, you can study the Bible interlinearly. You can see what every word means in its context. In Its original language in, in its verb tense and all that stuff. You have, you have no excuse for not studying and for believing the nonsense. And I think God's going to hold every, especially this age, he's going to hold us extremely accountable.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Well, we love Blue Letter Bible and we take back all the previous death threats that we issued against them. No, don't say none of those. Those were actionable threats. And, and, and God bless Blue Letter Bible.

[Ed Mabry]

You can use a different tool. I just, I just named most to feel free to use their. Tons. There are tons of tools.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

No, it is, it's a, it's a great. It is. It, it cuts out so much.

[Top Lobster]

I used it like three times already.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah, it is a fantastic tool. We just went through a weird thing with them, but we love them and I don't think they knew that it was, I think it was a one sided thing.

[Top Lobster]

It's funny, our, the latest episode that we did with Matt was about law. It was about the law and it's mimicking a lot of what you're saying thing. This episode is actually going to drop tonight. It's called Drinking, Eating, drinking in the Sabbath. And it's basically God saying like, hey, what's. Everything is lawful. Everything is lawful. But people want the rules. And, and I'm guilty of it too. I want the rules so I, I know what I can and can't do because it's an abdication of my responsibility. In a way. It's like, hey, just tell me, just tell me so I don't have to. Like we're faced with so many decisions per day. I guess it's a cop out where I'm kind of like, I don't want to be responsible for. Just tell me like, give me a church father. I get it. Give me a guy. He's got a beard, he's dressed like a wizard.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Oh yeah. If he's dressed like a wizard. Hell yeah.

[Ed Mabry]

He's got a big old cross around his neck.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

The bigger the cross, the bigger.

[Top Lobster]

And he'll, he'll guide me. He'll give, I mean in the Orthodox tradition he'll give me a different name and he'll guide me. And I, I think that there's some, something to that. But then there is also this idea of like, yeah, everything in the New Testament everything is lawful to God. When he breaks that whole idea of like what the, what you can eat as a Jew or when you can eat it. It's the, the idea of Jesus doing stuff on the Sabbath and constantly just disrespecting the Pharisees.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

That's why they wanted to kill him.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, that's what that was about. But we're constantly asking for the rules and I feel like we might. Because we're stupid. We need them.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah, because we need both. We crave freedom and we. And we crave rules.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Clean your room, bucko.

[Ed Mabry]

So you, you have. But, well, sometimes we want all the freedom and no rules. Then we realize that doesn't work. Like I said, we go. We go the other direction.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Ed Mabry]

So yes, we do need elders. I mean, you know, Paul comment did commentary for half the New Testament, so. But his writings are there. They're inspired by the Holy Spirit. But he was there. He was teaching people. So I don't say reject teachers. That would be kind of a self defeating statement. But what I am saying is that, that you, the Holy Spirit, if you're a Christian, he lives inside of you and he can tell you if something is wrong. Like I said, I've been confronted by people who've said, you know, Ed, you were wrong on this. And I was like, you know what? The Holy Spirit convicted me on it. And I had to change because I realized what I was teaching was more tradition than Bible. And so, so we're all open to it. So we should all be questioning everything and everyone and leaning on the word of God. And if you are a Christian, you have the Holy Spirit inside of you. Yeah, if you were open to it. But if you shut him out, he's not gonna shout over you. If you say, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna listen to you. I'm gonna listen to a father, whoever, then so be it.

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[Drew Ski]

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[Top Lobster]

Visit t mobile.com one of our, One of our. To the year in review thing. One of the episodes that we did where I came away from it. I'll just be honest.

[Ed Mabry]

I.

[Top Lobster]

Honest, I was disagreeing with you a little bit. Was the Halloween episode.

[Ed Mabry]

Okay.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Where you.

[Top Lobster]

You said you can or you can't, and you're like, it's up to you. And I'm like, I don't know.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

This is if it's a stumbling block for you.

[Top Lobster]

Right. But yeah, this is.

[Ed Mabry]

And.

[Top Lobster]

And the more, like, the more examples that I read about it, I'm like, oh, yeah, he was right. But I wanted. I want a rule, Ed.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

I want you to give me a rule.

[Ed Mabry]

You may not ever celebrate Halloween.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, but drop the stats.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Laugh.

[Top Lobster]

But Ed was like, that's. You're like, that's not what it says. And when I came away from the episode, I was kind of like, man, Ed.

[Ed Mabry]

I was just.

[Top Lobster]

I was a little bit like, like, I don't know. I don't know.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

I wanted. I wanted to know where the. Where the fishing line ended and where the crossing.

[Top Lobster]

Can my kid have a Labubu or not?

[Ed Mabry]

Ed, what are we doing here?

[Top Lobster]

And the answer is it's like, well, you know, for you. For what's good for you is not good for the other guy. How, like, what is your faith like? Like, is that a stumbling block to somebody else? There's a lot. It's so. It's so murky.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

I think, I think it is true, though. The stumbling block is. Is like, that's one of these things that, you know, every time I use. I learn something. I use it over and over and over again, and I keep saying it every episode. Stumbling block since that episode has been one of those that I haven't let go of. And it's. I was actually going to say only moments ago, it's fascinating how religion is a tremendous stumbling block for so many people, considering that Christianity is.

[Ed Mabry]

Is.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Is a religion, you know, in. In layman's terms, but it can. It can get you all caught up in it. You know, I was. I saw recently a picture of, like, Nimrod, Some. Some, you know, ancient visage of him carrying a pine tree and who the hell knows if it's real? And a. And a. What looked like a caribou. A reindeer.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah, I've seen that. Yes. Yes.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, yeah.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

And I'm like, I don't know if that's true or not. I don't know what I'm looking at there. You know, it's like. Like, you know, these days. But now you have three homages to Nimrod.

[Ed Mabry]

Four.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Four homages to Nimrod. You tried to invite me to TT Titi. Pee. PE's. Whatever her name is, and she had seven homages to Nimrod.

[Top Lobster]

Fourteen.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Fourteen homages to Nimrod. And I. And I just. I find it fascinating because, you know, you're not. With that.

[Top Lobster]

Those.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

You don't. You don't stumble over those. You go, I love the Lord, but look at my Christmas trees.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

I mean, yeah, well, because half of one.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah, well, Christmas is in Christ Mass. It's. It's basically Saturnalia, which is the. The worship of the. Of the sun God soul. Invictus was Nimrod. I mean, it really. It literally is the Christian. That's when. That's why when I say. I know I get Catholics really pissed off at me when I say that, yeah, Catholicism is an amalgamation of Christianity and paganism. But it is. I mean, they. Jesus was not born in December. He would have froze to death in the manger year. The shepherds would not have had sheep out in the field during that time of year. It was born in late summer. So why is it December 25th? Because that is the celebration of the sun God, Sol Invictus. And they just slapped the name of Christmas on it because, you know, it. Jesus is the son of God. The sun God is also considered the son of God. He. You know, and there's a similarity where, you know, the sun is in its lowest part of the sky for three days from December 21st to 23rd. Then it starts to rise again on December 25th. So that's the birth of the son of God. So. Hey, well, that's close enough. We'll call it Jesus birthday.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Go ahead, top, bring it up on stage. Let's look at it. Nimrod. Who the hell knows what this is? Like a Sumerian.

[Top Lobster]

We'll bring it up. But I mean, we'll bring it up. Damn, man. Come on.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

He's got the Christmas tree and a reindeer and.

[Ed Mabry]

I don't know.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Who the hell knows? I think Nimrod had wings. I mean, that's a.

[Top Lobster]

But David, it. David, when. Go ahead. The bread at nod. The stuff that he was not supposed to eat, Right?

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

The shows. The disciples said that they could. He said you could eat. You can eat food that's been sacrificed to demons. Yeah, just like, you know. No, I don't.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

I don't think there's anything. I think it's all about your intention. If you're. If you're setting out to, you know, engage in. In gratitude and. And the love of Jesus Christ on the. On that day, then you know that that is what it is.

[Top Lobster]

That's what I did.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Because, you know, obviously there's a spiritual intent or else. Else our worship wouldn't mean anything to these lowercase G gods. You know, like, Ed, the way you've described it is like. It's like a drug for them.

[Ed Mabry]

Right.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

So we're exuding this spiritual energy. We. We determine what that spiritual energy is. If we're. If we're out there worshiping God and, And exuding gratitude for not only our family, but for this, you know, this miracle of Jesus Christ. Like, yeah, that's. That's a very particular.

[Top Lobster]

This just happens to be the days that we get off from it.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

But I just don't know if, like, we should have like, a half a tree or if we should have, like seven trees. Like, where's the line? Ed, can you just draw some line? Get the fishing string and draw it out for us so we know what. What we're supposed to do here.

[Ed Mabry]

I will say the freedom we have in Christ can be scary.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Ed Mabry]

It's a responsibility as you grow. I think when you are a young Christian, you should probably abstain from it. I think I said this. Maybe I didn't say it on your show, but I think I did it on the Q A. I said, if you are coming out of paganism, especially if you're a new Christian and you're coming out of paganism, stay the hell away from Halloween. As you Grow in it.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah, you.

[Ed Mabry]

Then you can, you know. You know, bring things back in and. And. Because it won't be harmful to you. But if it's. If it is something that you're not ready for, by all means, don't do it. Stay as far away from it as you possibly can because. But you're expected to grow in Christ. You have rules. You know, we're all raising kids here. We don't have. My oldest son's 11 right now. He doesn't have the same rules I had for him when he was 5. I trust him with more things. He makes his own breakfast now. I wouldn't let him do that when he was three. He'd burn down the house. But I expect him to grow and have more freedom and more responsibility. So I will let him do things that are dangerous. Like he made his own eggs this morning. I didn't supervise him. He went and he got, you know, he turned the fire on. He cracked the egg. He would not have done that when he was younger, because it would have been a. But as he grows, he has more responsibility and he can handle the dangerous stuff. That's what we're supposed to do as we grow in Christ. Jesus doesn't want to be. And God, they don't want us to be constantly under, you know, this harsh rule. Paul says it himself, he calls the law something that. It's like a caretaker. He's. I think this isn't either. I think it's in Galatians where he says, you know, the law is like a tutor when you're growing up, but you don't stay under a tutor forever. You're supposed to grow up and become a man or a woman and be off on your own. I say this to my son all the time. He complains about all the rules we have. I say, I'm telling you these rules so that you know how to behave, so that when you're out of the house 18, you. You're not going to screw up because you already know how to. How to do these rules. But that doesn't mean you do exactly the way I'm doing things. You're your own person, but you know that you have the guardrails and you can handle situations. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

And even when you go off and. And your life descends into chaos, you at least go like you have a reference back. What can I go back to that wasn't chaos? And yeah, it's that reference.

[Top Lobster]

You can get the rock that's the foundation, and it doesn't have to be.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Exactly the way that you set it up. God is. God is a rock. So worship that rock.

[Ed Mabry]

Go for, Go worship some stones.

[Top Lobster]

Go worship some stones.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

I don't know what kind of time we have, Edwin. You know, I know you, you've probably got some stuff going on. Do we have time to talk a little bit more or.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we do. I, I, I, I, I'm actually off this week, so I'm not, not doing the 9 to 5 this week. So we have a little bit more time. And I did promise my son that I'm go. I got to take him to the amusement park tomorrow. So this, this is Daddy's day, so I got more time. There's a couple things we can talk. I want to end talking about the spiritual warfare course.

[Top Lobster]

But yeah, please go wherever you want with it because I feel like we've already derailed you.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah, it's okay. I'm just looking at my list. There's only a couple things I haven't touched on one. And I'll make it quick. With the year in review. One of the big things was the, the Rapture that was supposed to happen in September. Yeah. And I don't have to spend a lot of time on this because obviously it didn't unless we all missed it.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

I'm missing a tremendous amount of family members and I hope to see them again one day.

[Ed Mabry]

But the hope, because there were all these reasons that people had with, you know, with the Feast of Trumpets and this being 20, 25, being the, the beginning of the last Jubilee, which is, you know, the last 50 years before the, the next era, which is supposed to be the millennial reign of Christ. And so people were, had all these reasons to point out, to point out or, or to believe that the Rapture would happen on the Feast of Trumpets, which would be, I think, some, anywhere between the 21st to 24th of, of September. And of course it didn't happen. And the, and we had our show before that. And the warning that I had was, look, maybe it will, maybe it won't, I don't know. But if it doesn't happen, happen, don't feel that God let you down because that's really the danger in hyping people up and making them think that. You hear all these charts and graphs and Bible verses and signs in the heavens, people believe it. And then when it doesn't happen, they get disappointed in God. Like God didn't let you down. The people who let you down were these date setting dorks who have all these channels who are trying to get views and clicks to make more money. And then what happened after that? After it is exactly what I said was going to happen. I said the day next, none of these people. Well, maybe a few did, but most of them did not come back and say, you know what? We were wrong. We shouldn't have set the dates. We did the best we could, but we were wrong. Nope. They just kicked the can down the road. There was, you know, some of them were saying, I staked my life. There is no way 2025 will end without Jesus returning. Well, we got three days. I don't think it's. I don't think it's going to happen. But instead of admitting they were wrong, they just said, well, maybe, maybe I missed a decimal place. I didn't carry the two on. On my, my chart art and, or my mathematics. And so it's being kicked down the road. Or, or they said, well, I didn't really set a date. I just said, it may happen. No, I can see on your YouTube channel it says, Jesus returning September 23rd. That's a date. I don't care if you put a question mark by it. You're still setting a date because you're trying to get people to click on your channel so you can make some money. And that's a problem. And that's why you should not set dates. You don't know. And there was some guy in, in Africa. I forget his name now, but he.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

I was actually just looking for somebody.

[Top Lobster]

Mentioned in the comments here. I was like, this is an honorary mention.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah, this dude.

[Top Lobster]

I mean, Joshua wasn't his name.

[Ed Mabry]

Where?

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

I don't know. I'm trying to find him right now.

[Top Lobster]

He had people building arcs.

[Ed Mabry]

He claimed. He. He claimed he talked to Jesus directly and Jesus told him. And I'm like, okay, dude, you better be sure because if you're not doing that, that, that's, that's borderline blasphemy.

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Santa. Santo, did you get my letter?

[Zoe]

He's talking to you, bridges.

[Ed Mabry]

I'm not.

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[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

He's from Ghana, preparing the same way that Noah did. Maybe I could share this. It's a video. I mean, we don't have to get into it too much, but there you go. He's making sure the gaps are, I mean, honestly sound. They look great.

[Ed Mabry]

Don't forget those are great looking arcs.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

I mean, that's really remarkable. Is he wearing the sackcloth as a option? Maybe it's breathable and when you're working, it's. I don't know.

[Ed Mabry]

I mean, I think, I think it's like, you know, good for the heat probably.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

It's probably hot out there. I. I think he. He likely did. You know, there's no shortage of entities masquerading as correct. Christ, you know, that. That does happen. I've heard enough stories where I go, I don't doubt that you experienced something. I just think you were deceived. And so some, you know, ancient entity is laughing hard, dude. Which you kind of got to give them that one.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Well, that's a little funny.

[Ed Mabry]

So again, the moral of a story is God didn't disappoint you. Just these people did. So you should be very, very discerning when someone is setting dates. We. We don't know when it's going to happen. It could happen anytime. It may happen on the Feast of Trumpets. There's reason to believe that it will happen on a Feast of Trumpets. Doesn't mean it's happening on this one. And just don't put your faith in all of these charts and graphs and, you know, equations that people come up with, because they're always wrong.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yep. So, I mean, you know, it happens over and over again. I don't know how many I. What I had to do was, was be wrong a bunch of times before I finally stopped paying attention to that stuff. So for some people, it. Hopefully you go through it and you go through it the right way, where instead of throwing everything out, you realize, like, no, this is just some aspect that man is created. The same way when you go through a whole religious system and you, you, you know, you're burned by it, that you don't turn your back on God. You go, this is just some aspect that man created and, you know, screwed up.

[Ed Mabry]

Yep.

[Top Lobster]

Also, to hearken back to the beginning of the episode, it's like, how do you deal with people that are, like, really good within the space, but maybe you, You. You think that they've gotten something wrong. And it's unfortunate because when you're on, you know, even Ed, when you're on a show like Merkel, if you say something that somebody comes in, it's like, that's wrong. And then they tear you down. How else am I supposed to correct you on a public forum like this? Now, now, like, because we're both elevated to such a level that, like, well, when I correct you, you. You're going to fall, and that's not going to be great for you. So it's like, well, what do we do?

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

It also gets weird, too, because doing that is a form of currency. Whether or not you'd like to admit it, whether or not that's your goal, if you can effectively tear down another creator with any success, then you get elevated and it's like, maybe that's not the point, but for some people, it is the point. And regardless, it is the outcome, which is gross and weird and, you know, hard to navigate.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah. I don't really want the tensions. Maybe talk about the little season thing. And I. Obviously, I'm in complete disagreement with it. But the people who promote it, you know, JT and I get the other guy stops. I don't know their intention. I don't know them personally, so I'm not going to say bad things about them. I will say I don't agree with their. Their theory for these Reasons, but I'm not going to say, well, he's not a believer. He's trying to deceive you. I don't know. I. I'm guessing they sincerely believe this. I just disagree with it and hear my reasons for it. Yeah, we talked about Gary Wayne before. Same thing. I disagree with him about a couple things, but they're also fundamental things. If Gary Wayne came out or anyone came out and said that, well, Jesus didn't die for your sins, well, that's a problem. Yeah, he says, I believe that he created human beings before Adam and Eve. Okay, I disagree with it. I think it's some serious problems with it. But I don't think he's not a Christian because he believes that. Because he believes that. So there has to be even. And I don't believe that you're not a Christian if you believe in the little season. I think you're wrong. And I think it can, you know, adversely affect what you think about Jehovah and how he handles things. Things that he would put you under the unfettered reign of Satan for 300 years. That's a problem. But it doesn't make you not a Christian. So that's where you have to. And there are plenty of people I disagree with. And, and, you know, there was. There was, you know, some people, if you watch, like, if you listen to, you know, Sam Tripoli show, any of these shows, you have people on who I think are sincere and they're trying to make sense of the world and they have these different ideas of Jesus there. So he had one guy on there who said, well, Jesus is a homunculus because. Or. Or a golem, basically. Because. Because in this certain Jewish or Kabbalistic traditions, they would. You would form this flesh bot and put it inside of a woman and it would be birthed. And what Jesus was basically that. So he's a homunculus. I'm like, okay, that's stupid. But you're trying to understand things. You're trying to make sense of the world. So I'm not going to condemn you personally. I'm just going to say that, you know, do some more, you know, get into things a little bit more carefully and understand things better. But I'm not going to tear down someone, you know, just because. Just to try to give myself views and clicks because I'm gonna have to answer for that. You know, I tell my son all the time about. We talk about making good choices, and he says, why do I have to make good choices? I said, well, because, son, Every choice has a consequence. And before you make the choice, ask yourself, are you. Are you willing to live with what the consequences might be? And what are the consequences of me tearing down another Christian if I don't have enough information to make that judgment? Judgment, I'm gonna have to answer to that about that before God. So I think you can tear down what somebody says, but who they are, that's. That's where you're crossing the line, I think.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah, it's. It's a. It's kind of a hard place to be because, like I said earlier, with all these people coming to Christianity, and I'm certainly no authority on the topic, but I do recognize that it is an important time to be having difficult conversations in order to be able to get to the truth. And they probably should be had in a public fashion so that people can see this and it'll help guide their opinions. But I think mostly what we're dealing with in these spaces is, you know, people just believe it. I don't think we, you know, we have a tendency to. To point at somebody and go, fed, fed, you know, or something like that. I think far and few in between, I think it's really mostly people that are just incorrect and. But, you know, are earnest and are, you know, trying to understand the truth. But I do think every once in a while you do run into some weird shit and, and, you know, it's hard to. To kind of parse those people apart because I don't think that you being wrong deserves anywhere near the same amount of judgment as you being some sort of an operative who's going out and misleading people and, and jeopardizing the souls of individuals. Because at the end of the day, what this is, is it's a war. It's a spiritual war. We're not struggling against flesh and blood, but against powers and principalities and spiritual realms. And what is the thing that's at stake? Souls.

[Ed Mabry]

So.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

So that's the thing that we're tug of warring against. And if you're somebody who's in the space, who's actually subversive and, and is. I mean, that's what you're subverting is the eternal salvation of, of your brothers, you know, so. But it's. Man, good luck figuring out who those people are.

[Ed Mabry]

But, but also the good news is, let's say you are wrong. And let's say you call someone a fed and there turns out they're not a fan. If you say someone, you're not a Christian and you are you know what? You can and they're not. I mean, what if you say you're not a Christian, but it turns out they actually are? You can confess and repent and apologize. Yeah, you can do that. We have that ability. We can be wrong. I mean, there's, you know, there's some people who I, you know, I think Tucker Carlson's a fed.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[Ed Mabry]

But that's my opinion. I could be completely wrong. And if I am wrong, I say, you know what? He's actually a sincere guy. My. My bad. What did I do? I confess. I repented. I'm forgiven. So we have. We still have that option. So even if we are wrong, we. We're never going to be perfect. We can. We can confess and repent.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah.

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[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Visit t mobile.com yeah, well, thank God. Our God is the, the God of forgiveness, right? Because you know, that could get, that could get sticky. But you know, it makes sense because there's so much that's hidden from us. There's so much that. And right now we are, we did an episode recently on this idea of, of golden apples just to give you that sort of 10,000 foot overview. It's this idea that within Greek mythology, I think it was Persona, whatever, it doesn't matter. Persephone, thank you, would throw these golden apples and they would cause chaos. And a lot of the time the chaos was just the infatuation with the thing itself. And the more focus that you gave to this apple, the larger it would become to the, to the point where it would block you from going any further. And I realized that that is a great analogy for, for so many of these psychological operations we're being subjected to. Specifically in the conspiracy community. There are so many things that are, are beckoning for our attention and if you spend too much time with them, they become so immense that they block your path. You can no longer get to the goal. What is the goal? The, the Great Commission, we talked about it earlier. It's spreading the gospel, it's making disciples. If that's the goal, then any number of things, whether it's Three Eye Atlas or it's, you know, it's Charlie Kirk's, you know, assassination, any of these things can be, become a sticking point, can become a golden apple that can become so huge that it demands all of your time and focus. But what is your time and focus supposed to be dedicated to? It's, you know, these great works of, of, of creating disciples and bringing people to, to Christ and, and spreading the gospel. So, you know, I'm realizing like this place that I spent so long in this truth or conspiracy community that like I am grateful for it because it got me to Jesus, is now, I think, fully weaponized against us, us being critical thinkers, seekers, people that are pursuing the truth. This thing is, is reached such a critical mass. There's more conspiracy theorists than there ever have been before. We talk about it endlessly about 2020 having woken up so many people and, and, and then what they did is they just injected so much bullshit into this. And it makes me realize like this whole Gnosticism, this ascended master crap, like all of these things that you come to the demi urge and, and you know, the God of the Old Testament not being the, all these things, all these things they are the conclusions that basically a truther might come to. If you spend too much time obsessing over the. The false breadcrumb trails, at some point you do have to jump, just throw your hands up and go. There are things that I'm not going to understand. And I've been blessed to. To have as many things revealed to me as. As have been. But faith is a huge component of this because like we talked about with, with Job, we weren't here when God laid the foundations of the earth. We, we have a short amount of time. It's finite. We're only here for a blip of the radar. We're not going to understand it at all. You know, you're blessed to understand anything at all. One of the things that I've been saying lately is, is kind of the old lady who just stays in her Bible. We've been calling it Grandma Maxing. The old lady who stays in her Bible, who, Who believes in Jesus, who's. Whose eyes are fixed on God. She doesn't need all the information that we have. She's actually better for it. So if some gigantic alien disclosure thing and we've been sleuthing through it and looking for all the clues and we're trying to scream it and she looks at it and goes, goes, nope, demonic. I love Jesus Christ. All this other crap is noise. I'm going to continue following Christ. She's good.

[Ed Mabry]

She's good.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

She doesn't even need all the information. She doesn't need to have sleuthed for 20 years and, and connected all the dots and, and, you know, had the, the red wire with the thumbtacks on the map and his manic and pulling her hair out. She didn't need any of it. She just had faith in the Lord and that's all she needed to get through it. Like, I'm coming to a place where I understand that now.

[Top Lobster]

Quick side note, David. David's rant kind of reminded me of something, I guess reminded me, but brought a thought to my head a lot of times lately with the show and what, what we're doing. I go, I didn't ask for this. And like, as a matter of fact, I don't necessarily even want it. Do you have anything on faith by reason or any of, I don't know, any sources, resources? Maybe we can cover it on another episode, another time time about, like, when you get a blessing, how you receive it, because that, this is not. This idea is. That's been floating around in my head is not new. And even like more Current, like more recent circumstances. I'm like, you, we get a thing that is a blessing. And I go, this looks like a curse to me. And it's like, how do I receive this thing? Because I don't know what to do with these things. I know that they're like, big, but I just like, I kind of want to give it back. And it's like, no, no, you don't do that. That's an insult. So I'm like, all right, well, there's biblical precedent for this and I need to, I need to figure. I would love to do like an episode on that or at least be pointed towards a resource of that. Because all the stuff he's talking about is just that we're talking about all this crazy stuff and then we're kind of talking to like a lot of people and then it's, it gets weird. It gets. And I think most, most creators, maybe like Chuck Missile, you know, they're writing books for their own to, to spread their information. But the consequences of doing these things is you're garnering, you're garnering an audience of people. And now you are almost the shepherd, but you're an asshole, you know?

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah, we all are. Yeah. Yeah. I think, I think that is worth another show because I think what you're saying is like, you have, there's responsibility that you, you didn't ask for. He came to do a. You guys started doing, you know, just comedy.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Ed Mabry]

And then, you know, then you added some spiritual aspects to it. Now it's evolved to where you are now. And now you have people relying on you and call and saying, you're my, one of my spiritual teachers. I, I know that because I get that a lot. And it is scary. I have some people who have asked me questions about, you know, morality and things like that. I'm not going to get you through. I'm not going to out them. But they were asking about, about seriously moral things. And because they said, and they said, we ask you this and because we know that you're up here, I'm like, do not put me on a pedestal. Oh no, I, I'm as screwed up as anybody else. Well, maybe not. Maybe I'm less screwed up than a lot of people, but I still have my own screw ups. I still, I fall in many ways. There's still many things that need, I need to be better about. So it's not about me. You have to shift it back towards God.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Ed Mabry]

Because it's not me. Because it's easy. It was be really, really easy to start saying, yes, I'm. I'm so great because all these people are giving me praise. And I get it a lot from people who are just thanking me, and I appreciate it. But I always say, you know, this is God doing things through me. This is. And we will do a whole episode on this because what it really comes down to is how you behave when God does things through you. We're supposed to be the conduit through which God does things, and we give all the glory to him who. You know who else did it? This guy named Jesus. Every time people praised him, he says, I do only what the Father tells me to do. When. When the rich young ruler came to him and he said. And he called her a good, good, good teacher, Jesus says, why do you call me good? There's no one good but the Father. Now, granted, he had a. The rich young ruler had an agenda, but Jesus was pointing him, don't. It's not me. I'm here to fulfill the scriptures. I am not here. It's not about me. So that's one of the things. But I think that is worthy of. Of a show.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

King David comes to mind, King Saul. Like, these are dudes that. Just regular people. And you're given this. It's a blessing, but it's so huge. And you see one guy just fail completely, right? And it's like, man, I might be better off without them. Because, yeah, you could be either one of those characters. You could be the one that brings upon the line of Jesus, or you could be the one that, you know, dies in a ditch. Like, his last thing that he did is. Is conjuring. Conjuring, Samuel, you know, like talking to a witch. Which one? And how do you know? Because it's never that clear. You know, it's never clear of what I'm doing. We're just kind of like, making it up as we go. And I'm like, damn. Like, at some points you're like, I don't want that.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

It is crazy, though, because I think, you know, if you declare that that's what you're doing, which I, you know, I'll take responsibility. I have declared. I've talked to God and asked him to use this, do what he wants with it. It's not my show. It's God's show. I make a habit of doing that. If you do that, and then God goes, well, here's resources. Build it bigger than this thing that you've given to me. Well, I think how kind of we're like real big if we don't.

[Top Lobster]

We've been given that and then they go. And now I'm like, I got it. This thing and there's a million things you can do with this. And, and I. But I've been given a task and I know this is very obscure to people, but I'm like, I have this thing and I've been given a task and it's been gratefully given to me. I don't know how to do it.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

And I keep asking and I don't know what to do. And at a certain point I'm like, I just kind of want to give it back because I don't.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

You know what I'm saying?

[Ed Mabry]

I would just say it's the people who, people who gave it back did not. Things didn't turn out well. Jonah is a good example. God said, go to Nineveh. He says, nope, I'm going to Tarshish. Okay, well now you're gonna get swallowed by a picture fish. You know, the, the people who, the parable that Jesus gave about the talents. God, they were given talents. You know, some. Two of them did. Right. The other one said, I'm just going to hide it, what happened to him. So it's a, it's a big responsibility. But yeah, I think we should do a, we should do an episode on that. I think that's, that's huge because.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Be a very useful topic because this.

[Ed Mabry]

Gets, this kind of gets into the spiritual warfare. So if we can actually wrap up with, with this. Because one of the goals of my spiritual warfare class, mine and John's, is not just to teach people how to do it, but I want, at the end it's going to be a 12 month course. And the reason it's so intense is because the goal is once you go through the course, now your responsibility is to do it for others. We're. We're training warriors to go out there and do it. I don't want you just to sit at our feet and just keep listening to us after a year. If you go through this, you have the ability now to go out and spread and multiply it. But I think a good segue into that is something you were talking about a minute ago, Raven, when you were saying that there's all these distractions that you like the golden apple that takes your eyes off the prize of the Great Commission. And it's funny when you know, because I'm doing this, the spiritual warfare class is going to be with myself and with John Lenhardt. We're going to be, we're doing it together because we just, we come at it from different angles and I think it'll give people a complete picture. But, but we were talking about all the different types of spiritual warfare and all the different ways of attacks because we want to be as thorough as possible. And what. And he and I were talking and one thing he said that kind of blew my mind and he said, you know, you know what? One of the most common areas of spiritual warfare, spiritual attack is that we don't recognize is distraction. Oh yeah. Because again, we think of it as, you know, something spectacular happening thing. You know, being possessed by a demon and talking like this and your head spinning around and all these terrible things going on that you see in movies. No, that's the rare aspect of it. The Satan is subtle. He, as we talked about before, he just wants to skew things a little bit, just get you pointed one other way so that you're not doing the will of God. And politics is another. You talked about Albarino now being a big, I don't know, political guy. That's a distraction. You, God didn't call you to be a Republican or a Democrat or a conservative or a liberal. He called you to make disciples of all men. And if your focus is on winning back America, not saying there's anything wrong with that. I think we should try to make our household moral, our community, our city, our state and our government in that order, more holy and more Christlike. But if that's your main goal, what aren't you doing? Doing? You can get distracted by all these different things and Satan can just put a little distraction there and he does it. I mean I. One of the. Because I'm working on the course now and I've been distracted by some things that have happened with some sports teams. I follow and I was convicted. And God said, you know what? If you spent as much time working on this course as you do following the message boards on espn, you know how much more you'd have accomplished? I'm like, you're right, that was a distraction connection.

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[Ed Mabry]

I'm not.

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Visit t mobile.com so so, so that just kind of dovetails into the the warfare class. And the reason that we even started or had this endeavor was I through my patreon through comments here and there, so many people have have been talking about being under spiritual attack as Christians and not knowing what to do and, and having spiritual oppression and just saying well you know, I'm just. This is just my lot in life. Satan has got me. I'm under attack and I don't know what to do. And then I mentioned, I think I mentioned on this one one of our podcasts and maybe a couple other places that yeah, I'm thinking about doing a spiritual warfare class because I mean it seems like something people need and I was just had a deluge of people saying yes, do this and thinking about it more and talking over it with John. It's a huge need for it and so people have been signing up for pre registering just to let to let me know how much attention I should be giving this. It's been pretty overwhelming. I get signups all the time, people saying I want to know more. And just for those of you who have signed up, I will. You'll start receiving emails pretty soon, probably this week, prepping you for it. The class is going to start in, in April, right after Bohemian Grove.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

All right, I need it after that.

[Ed Mabry]

And I'm going to start sending out emails with video attachments, prepping for it. Just getting you ready to, to understand who this class is for and who is not for. It's for Christians, it's not for non Christians. If, if you're a non Christian, I'm not going to stop you from taking the course. But just know you won't fully get it because the purpose is electional. This the authority that you have through Jesus right now. You are not a victim, you have victory. But if you. But the only way you're going to lose a fight is if you don't fight. I gave the analogy before. If you know, we're grown men, if a 10 year old kid comes and starts, you know, attacking us and like punching us, what are you gonna do? You're gonna pick that kid up and throw him somewhere. Because we know we're stronger than the kid. But if you don't believe you're stronger than the kid and you curl up in a ball, fall and don't fight back, well, eventually that 10 year old is going to wear you out. That's the same with us and the fallen angels and the demons. We have authority through Jesus over them. But if you don't fight, you're going to lose. And if you don't know how to fight, you're going to lose. So that's what the spiritual work bear class is going to teach you, how to recognize it and know what, Know that distraction is part of it. Knowing that again, number one is you can do it. It number two is for Christians, you have the authority. Knowing the difference between possession and oppression. As a Christian, you cannot be possessed by a demon, but you can be oppressed. Possession is internal, oppression comes external and you're all going to be attacked. And people. And so the funny thing, not funny haha, but you know, funny peculiar is that our churches don't teach us about this when we become Christians. We've taught about, yes, you have salvation, you have eternal life, your sins are forgiven. That's great, right? But what they don't tell you is, oh, by the way, you've just picked a side. In a war, when you become a Christian, you've just stepped on the battlefield. Whether you like it or not, there's a war going on and you've just definitively taken a side. And that means you're going to get attacked. So you shouldn't be surprised when it happens. You need to know how to do it. You are in a war. It is not optional. You cannot sit it out. When you are a Christian, you have just declared, I am on the side of God. And the enemy says, okay, you're, you are not on my side. I'm going to war against you. You need to know how to battle it. You need to know the different ways. You need to know yourself. You need to know what triggers you because you have a familiar spirit who knows how to trigger you. You need to know that. You need to know how to battle them. So we're going to cover all this stuff. We're going to cover triggers like your anger, your self esteem. Pornography. We're going to do probably an entire month on pornography for men and women. Women, because it's very different. The pornography that men have is more overt and more shameful. But women have a form of pornography as well that's much more subtle and much more socially accepted. But it does the same thing. What is pornography? It's seeing. It's a fantasy. A sexual fantasy about someone who is not your spouse that causes you to touch yourself. Women have it too, but it's in romance novels and romance movies. What is it about? It's about some fantasy guy, guy who is not their husband who gets them sexually aroused because he fits. A fantasy. It's the same thing, but it's not behind a counter or in some sleazy video shop. It's in regular bookstores. It's on. I tell my wife all the time, she loves watching these Christmas romance movies. And I'm like, you know what? That's really pornography for you. No, it's not. It's not. It's no nudity. Nudity's for men. We get turned on by primarily by seeing a naked woman. Women don't get turned on the same way by seeing a guy's butt. Women have a different channel for their. They're much more emotional. So seeing this guy who is a banker or an accountant or whatever or I'm sorry, not a banker, a business owner who just has a private jet and is like Indiana Jones or something like that, that gets them riled up. Yeah. Or you know, in the Christmas movies it's always the same story. Some woman who's like a big shot executive goes back to her small hometown and there's another guy who, I don't know, raises turkeys for a living and she's going to help him raise turkeys. They don't like each other at first. Then they start slowly falling in love and she moves away from her big corporate job back to the country and raises turkeys with him.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yep.

[Ed Mabry]

That's a fantasy. It's ridiculous. But he's always some stud. He always looks like Brad Pitt or somebody like that because, you know, all turkey farmers look like, you know, Hollywood studs. He's all chiseled and all that kind of stuff. It's just, it's, it's the same thing. But the purpose of it is that is an avenue through which you, that's spiritual warfare. We're going to get into all that stuff.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

And that thing is really heavy though, that, that idea that once you become a Christian you're choosing a side in, in a war.

[Top Lobster]

We just got, we got a message on. I didn't deal with it. I think you did.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Okay, that's exactly what I was thinking about. Shout out to astrology, astronomy, astrology, bimbo.

[Top Lobster]

Bimbo, astrology, something like that.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

It's this chick who like, you know, bimbo, astrology, astrology. She's, he's into all this esoteric stuff. She sent a hilarious message at first and it said the information on your show is, is incredibly useful for everyone. However, sometimes when I watch it, I cry and I, and, and I said I thought it was funny because she's an astrologist or whatever and she's also a self proclaimed bimbo. And if you go through her page, both of these things are true. And I, and I said, and then I just said, very straight up, I just said thank you, blah, blah, blah. And then she liked it and she left it alone. And then all of a sudden she, she reached back out again and she goes, hey, I've been experiencing these demonic attacks.

[Top Lobster]

I've been praying more than I ever have before.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah, it's like, yeah, also I am aware that I have sort of petitioned these lowercase G gods over, over my life. And she basically just said that she was like confused, confused. And, and, and I, that's exactly what I told her though was like you have, have picked a side. And when you do this, there are things that have rights over you. There are things that you are in agreement with. There are spirits that have been attached to you for however long they've been attached to you. They're not pumped, you know, and so these things are going to, and, and this is a thing that happens to a lot of people. Well, they're, they'll experience this. And you know, simply put, the correlation is. Well, I started to follow Christ. And all of a sudden I started having demonic attacks.

[Top Lobster]

Hex.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

And so clearly that's not the right way to go because these things are terrifying and they weren't happening before. So I'll go back to that. But it's just. It goes to show you, like, yeah, we don't know how to, how to do this thing. If you don't, if you, if you don't have this anointing the Holy Spirit, if you're not a Christian, if you haven't made this proclamation, if you're not, you know, having your eyes fixed on. On God, then, yeah, you'll. You'll cast a thing out, which happens to a lot of people, right? They'll sage their apartments like dumbasses and they come back sevenfold.

[Top Lobster]

Ed, how much does. Does the course cost?

[Ed Mabry]

We are finalizing pricing, but it's probably going to be two tiers. One's gonna both be triple digits because it's just a lot of work. So it's probably gonna be like 100 for the lower tier, maybe a couple hundred for the higher tier, but you're gonna get a bunch of other stuff. You're going to also get access to a lot of John's material that he charges a lot more. You're gonna. It's going to be a discount because you're going to get, like, access to certain books and things like that and some of the jobs.

[Top Lobster]

How much, how much do bimbos make? How much do as.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

I don't think astrology bimbos make anything.

[Ed Mabry]

This is.

[Top Lobster]

This is horrific.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

This is a debacle.

[Top Lobster]

We'll figure it out.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

But she needs Yo. But, but no shit, though. Shout out to astronomy astronaut. Shout out to the bimbo because it's.

[Top Lobster]

Like, what a crazy word.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

I just look at it and I go, damn, dude. Like, you saw something and its spiritual implications were obvious to you, meaning astrology. And all these different things that you've looked into. And it was bad, but, like, now you're backing out of it and you're dealing. It's like, look, you know, I'm no better than you. I've. I've been, you know, through all this occult crap and doing all these things for all these years. And I've been practicing, but I've been looking into it and abstaining from Christ for what was like 16, 17 years. And, and now, like, you're, you're, you're backing out of it. And then, and then to reach out and say, like, yo, I need some help. Yeah, I'M getting attacked, and then to have this, like, genuine conversation about it, like, dude, I pray that she puts the bimbo behind her. Put the get thee behind me.

[Top Lobster]

It's a great.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Okay, it's a great name. Yeah. But just. I don't know if bimbos for Christ is really the thing, but. But all I'm saying is, hell yeah, dude. Like, you're. You're making this progress now. You're realizing that this is wrong. And like, yeah, this path is gonna get tumultuous, ridiculous. But, you know, like, that's awesome. That's so. Oh, and I hope that whatever I said, like, something stuck. I hope she keeps, you know, seeking Christ, and I hope she doesn't get dissuaded by these. These, you know, dark attacks that you're. You're engaging in a war. It's a war.

[Ed Mabry]

And one thing we're going to talk about, things like that, we're going to cover, you know, generational curses, things that your ancestors did that. It doesn't seem fair. Why, why are you a part of it if your ancestors did it? Well, because you're. You're repeating it yourself because they've passed it on to you and, and you've made. God deals in laws. God is very legalistic in the sense that he cannot break his own laws and covenants. And God deals with things through covenants. And if you make a covenant unknowingly or unknowingly, you've just given an entity legal rights over you. And unless you break them intentionally, God can't do. God is not going to break the covenant for you. He will if you ask. Ask, but he won't do it outside of your own purview. So you need. I'll give a quick example. You know, my mother and grandma. My grandmother would. She lived and died, unfortunately, in. In poverty, but she would always say things like, oh, you know, money is tough to come by. I, you know, I'm never going to get ahead. We live a tough life. When you keep saying those things, you're making a covenant. My mother would say those same things and every. And she would have financial difficulty here and there. And I would find myself, when I was younger, longer repeating it. What am I doing? I am speaking a curse over my own life when I say, well, never have enough money. It's just not my lot in life, that rich being riches for someone else. No, I had to admit that that is a generational curse that has been passed on to me. I break it. I come to the courtroom of. Of Jehovah. And I have the advocate, the Holy Spirit on my side. And I officially break that covenant with the demon here because he. They have to appear at the courtroom and you can tell them, I break this covenant, I shatter it in the name, I bring it before Jehovah. And I said, tear it up. I'm no longer going to be a part of it. And that's how you. That's one of the ways you break a generational curse.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, this is, this is one of them. This episode is crazy. This is one of the things that's been haunting me a little bit. It's like I have this thing in my life that I always get to the door. Like, I'm very good at a lot of things. I like, you name it, I could probably do it. But I get to the door and I never like, like kick it open, if that makes any sense.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

So that's why I'm like, kind of like I'm looking at whatever we're doing here and a couple other things and I'm just like, there's that thing in your head, that intrusive thought that's like, that's who you are. It's a strong door. And you stop.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

And I'm like, I don't know. Even earlier today I was like, that's it. Yeah. You get to the door and then that's it, man. And that's like the end of the path for you.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

I think. I think I do this on, on the minor and major too. Like on the minor. It's dumb crap. Like, oh, I just feel dead today. Or like, oh, you know, just like these stupid little, like the way that these things have infiltrated our language.

[Top Lobster]

It's so. Because it. I'm, I'm telling you, just today, that's what I was, that's exactly what I was thinking. I'm like, man, you get to the door and I'm like, yeah, I don't, I don't know, I just, I feel like this is what I do. Right? And then, and then your, your own voice goes, yeah, yeah.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

And even though I know better, sounds like you.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah. And I'm like. And then I agree with it. And then I come and do this show. And the show said, no, I don't do that.

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[Top Lobster]

No, I'm doing it, man. Right, whatever.

[Ed Mabry]

Called strongholds. And the Bible talks a lot about strongholds. A stronghold is a. Basically a weapon store. It's a place where all the weapons against you are stored in your own mind so that your familiar spirit knows, oh, he's. He's making progress. Let me go into the storehouse and use his fear against him. I have. I will. I'll be again, very transparent. Growing up, I, as a child, I had a fear of rejection. And understand this. Satan. Forgive my language. Satan's an asshole. He doesn't. He has no honor. He doesn't say, you know what? This is a baby. I'm going to wait till I become an adult, then I'm going to attacking. No. When I was a baby, my parents divorced when I was 2 years old. And even as a baby, Satan was in my ear saying, that's your fault they rejected you. And so to this day, I struggle with rejection. That is a stronghold of mine. When I feel like someone's rejecting me that I go into a shell because as a child, they were already there. Knowing that he's being raised in a Christian household, he's going to be a problem him. Let's start planting strongholds in his Mind now to use against him. And those have to be intentionally broken. But rejection is one of my triggers. And you have to be aware of those things. You have to know. So that's why the first couple months, it's going to be about knowing the story of Jehovah and knowing yourself, because you, the first thing is defense. You have to put on the armor. You can't be in a spiritual warfare class. We're not going to teach you attacking in the first couple months. The first couple months are just going to be about, about defending, knowing who you are getting your armor on. Then and only then are you able to start going forward and being going on the offensive. You gotta start with the defensive. You have to figure out your triggers, your strongholds, address those first, and then you can go out to battle. It's like you're not gonna, you know, you're not gonna go out and start fighting in a war if you don't know how to use a gun. We have to teach you how to use it. We need to teach you how to put on your helmet and your Kevlar and all that kind of of stuff. Then you're ready for battle. So it goes the same way. And so we're going to teach you all of that. How to identify your triggers. You do it the way Jesus did it. You know why Jesus was driven to it? Says the Holy Spirit after he got baptized, he was the Holy Spirit drove him, in the original language, to the wilderness to be tempted by Satan. Why? Because the Holy Spirit didn't like him? Of course not. It was to show Jesus what his triggers were. Because the devil, devil knows your triggers. And what, how do you tempt Jesus? Turn stones to bread? Tempt God with. By being, you know, jumping off the tower and having God save you. And he said, you know, bow down before me and I'll give you the nations of the world. You don't have to go through all this stuff, Jesus, if you bow down before me, I'll give you the nations. You don't have to fight and die for it. I'll do it for you. So that was compromise. So Jesus spent his entire life doing the opposite. It turn the stones into bread. Oh, so one of my triggers is food. Jesus fasted all the time. One of his. One of the triggers is compromise. And, and so Jesus never compromised. He always did the opposite. And in testing God and doing things on his own, Jesus says, no, I will only do what the Father tells me to do. Jesus spent his life doing the opposite of those triggers, which is why Satan had no power over him. How do you know what your triggers are? Just look at your life and look at the places you always fall. Those are your triggers. And John pioneered a process to get rid of them or to really subside them. And you keep doing it. You will eventually get rid of them. We're going to teach you that. And then the enemy no longer has a stronghold. Now you're ready to attack.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

I'm getting ready for. In January, I'm going to start a fast. I don't know how long. It's like the church is talking about fasting right now. And it's kind of been on me to, to. But if I was in, if I was in the wilderness and well, Satan would be like, turn that rock into chocolate. And I'd have been like, oh, yep, gonna turn that rock into chocolate. So I mean, I, what I'm gonna do is I, I think I'm gonna start with what Laura Baker was talking about. The 23 hours off, one hour on for three days. And then after that I'm just gonna do one meal a day. And then I might have like a short, like an intermittent fast where, like there's a short window of time during the day where I'll eat. But I'm definite up sweets and, and, and carbs and probably. No, I think that's it. Probably just sweets and carbs and not because I, you know, when I do the show, I, I do the show better when I'm fasted.

[Top Lobster]

Me too.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

And, and then, you know, if I get out of here. What time is it now? It's, it's 5:30.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

If I fat, I, I would have successfully fasted. I had breakfast this morning. But if I, I, you know, there's been times where I've come out of here. I'm like, oh, it's 5 o' clock, o' clock at 6 o', clock, like I'm done. And, and now I have a window of an hour or so to eat dinner. Then I close it off and I'm, and I do the same thing the next day. So I think I'm just gonna do that. We'll do the 23 hours off, one hour on, do that for three days and then I'll just shorten the window after that. And, and you know, just fasting does help.

[Ed Mabry]

Remember when, when disciples are trying, we're trying to cast out a demon. And, and it didn't work. And Jesus said, well, these, this, this kind only comes out through prayer and fasting. Fasting, which means there are different classes of it. And you're right, I'm faster right now. Actually, I'm not completely. I had this morning, I had, I had coffee and some bone broth.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

I heard it doesn't count if the coffee's black. I don't know if that's true. It was not, not activating your metabolism. If it's.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah, if it's black, maybe just some fat, I do that. It's not bulletproof coffee. When I do something, I just blend in some butter, some grass fed butter with it and I, and I put a scoop of this, this chocolate flavored bone broth, which it's actually taste, believe it or not, actually it doesn't taste like the bone broth at all. It's pretty, it's pretty tasty bone broth though.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

I think even just bone broth, that's.

[Ed Mabry]

All I've had today. Well, it's two o' clock my time which. Oh yeah, we do need to wrap this up.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

But yeah, yeah, let's, let's bring it in for a landing. I think that that's great though. The, the fasting and, and all these things and, and you know, trying to understand it. It's, these are all great tools for people that are starting to come to the realization that, you know, something is awry and that Jesus Christ might be real.

[Top Lobster]

I think there's something too. Well, when, when he said these come out with fasting and prayer, but then it's like fasting. Well, what kind. And I, I usually look at people that feel like you're not doing a food fast. Like, what the hell are you doing? Like, oh, I'm giving up, you know, sports for the. And I'm. And I kind of look down in it, but I think there's something to that. Like maybe these type of demons don't come out with maybe food fasting. But if you're going to fast from this.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

What are your distractions?

[Ed Mabry]

Exactly.

[Top Lobster]

This is exactly.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

Huh. A lot to think about, Ed.

[Ed Mabry]

Yeah. You know, doom scrolling. My wife will send me an Instagram funny video and next thing I know I'm, I've been scrolling Instagram for like 20 minutes. Like, why am I doom scrolling? I'm like, dude, I've just wasted 20 minutes looking at videos of golden retrievers.

[Top Lobster]

I'm caught on.

[Ed Mabry]

I love golden retrievers. What can I tell you?

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Great dog.

[Top Lobster]

I'm on an algorithm of people cutting down trees.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

You know what's fantastic? It's an interesting. My wife was, my wife, she was on Sick Talk the Other day. That's what I call it where it's just like people just talking about like this thing where they got really, really sick and and what happened and. And it was. The doctors weren't diagnosing it and then it turned out to be this horrifying thing that's super rare. And I'm just like I think I'm looking at that.

[Top Lobster]

I'm gonna join you for the fast but I think it might be with this.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

My thing is really. Well we had a three, we got a three. Okay. I bought for my son a three pound Hershey bar and I've eaten 75% of it. Jesus, you have no idea how much chocolate I can eat in one day. Hey, if Satan tempted me it would be turn the rocks into chocolate fat. And I'd be like okay, all right Ed, look, we gotta get out of here one more time. Before we do where can everybody find your work?

[Ed Mabry]

So faithbabreason.net you can become a member there and get other exclusive content. You can also. You can and you can join the the spiritual warfare class. There's a sign up there. This is just for registration. You're not signing up to pay anything yet. If you scroll. Yeah this at the top there's there and Yep. So you can just sign to be notified. I'll start sending some emails out soon again. I it read everything and decide if you want to make the financial commitment because it is a commitment. It is a year long. So it's going to be but it's going to be a huge course. They're going to be videos and we written material. There's going to be a one on one counseling sessions with myself and John as part of it. So it's just going to make you like a Delta Force level warrior. You can also it and you can also go to my patreon patreon.com faithbyreason There you can you get the access to the books. You also can be a part of our monthly Bible study where you where again we go through it's Jehovah story. So the purpose of the Jehovah story Bible study is to increase your fellowship with God by getting to know him. That's really what it's all about. You will know him when you go through this. And we're almost at the end of the first year year. The next one starts up in February but we have everything is recorded. So if you join now you can still go in and watch everything we've done so far this year. Q and A's are there. There are different tiers depending on what you want to. How much support you want to give. I appreciate whatever it is, but yeah. So Patreon and faithbyreason.net and again, the virtual warfare course will start in April, but you know, you can register for it now to start getting information.

[Top Lobster]

Excellent. Man, what a. What a great episode.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

It's a great episode.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah. What happens when we don't talk for a while?

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

Oh, I know.

[Ed Mabry]

Stupid jobs in the way.

[David Lee Corbeau (The Raven)]

You don't got to make money. That's not important.

[Top Lobster]

All right, let's. Let's get out of here. I do have something to tell you after Ed, but it'll be quick. Okay, guys, thank you for joining us. And until next time, don't forget to obey, submit and comply. We'll catch you later.

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