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How Should We Pray? w/ Laura Baker
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In this powerful Nephilim Death Squad episode, Laura Baker returns to teach exactly “How Should We Pray” according to Scripture so your prayers finally get results. David Lee Corbo (The Raven) and the crew dive deep into effective fervent prayer...
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That spot. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad. I am David Lee Corbo, AKA the Raven that is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation. Before we get into today's guest, a little reminder. Patreon.com forward/nephilim death Squad is a great place to support the show and it's no longer a great place to get VIP tickets though. The VIP tickets to Bohemian sold. They're full gone. They're fully gone. Thank you guys so much for the, for the rapid turnout in that way. Super pumped to have all our VIP tickets gone. Right now, all we have left is a general admission and those will be going on sale to the general public this coming Monday. I think it's like the 27th. So if you want to be able to secure your seats for Bohemian Grove Day 2, that's August 8th at the Wildwood Community Center. That's the big performance day that I highly recommend. Patreon.com forward/nephilim death Squad. Get them before the filthy pores do.
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Hopefully, it's gonna go. I know it's gonna go great, guys. Joining us once again is Laura Baker. We actually tried to do this episode not too long ago, and we ran into a litany of tech issues, and none of which I am sensing right now. So I have a really good feeling about this. Laura, thank you for coming back. One of my favorite people actually squirreled her way into our intro. That's how much we like you, Laura Baker. Before we get into this conversation, though, let's remind everybody where they can find your work and what it is you do.
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Okay? Okay. Oh, I'm getting back.
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Back, are you? Oh, she's getting maybe echo cancellation. Luckily, we can hear it. We're going to fix that for you in a second, though. Let's just check into this. And don't worry. Even if this goes on for a second, we could always edit it out. Just want to make sure you're not going to have a feedback loop going on. Boom, boom, boom.
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Okay, it's gone.
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It's gone.
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It's gone.
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Yeah. We're professionals.
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Okay? You are professionals, and y' all look professional, especially with all that stuff in your room. That looks great.
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The more junk we put in here, the. The more professional we look.
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Yes. You're gonna have to start wearing suits pretty soon.
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Yeah. Yeah. I don't think we're gonna have room for. We have to start putting stuff outside of the studio into. Into Studio B. Studio. Studio E. D. D, I think we have so many studios. So where can people find your work, Laura?
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Okay, it's called cleansingthebloodline.com. that's my website. My books are on there. I've got a telegram channel called Cleansing the Bloodline, and my books are also can be found on Amazon. Yeah, you can get them cheaper on there if you're just getting an ebook, and otherwise you go to Amazon.
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Is that your newest one right there at the bottom, Communion with the King?
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No, that one was actually. That. My third one. That was the third one. And Kingdom Against Kingdom is the latest one.
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That's right. That's right. Okay.
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And now I'm working on another one.
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All right, fantastic. Guys, go and pick up Laura Baker's books. I always. We've said this before. There's a couple of people that we've had the pleasure of communicating with, and we have a feeling that they're going to be, you know, this show stands kind of on the shoulders of giants, right? So you have, like, Mike Heiser, Chuck Missler, like characters like this that are well known and have kind of like paved the way for. For people like us to come along. I have a feeling people like Laura Baker, like Ed Mabry, this is kind of going to be those characters for the next generation. And it's really been a pleasure to. To not only communicate with you, but to expose our audience to. To your work. When we were talking earlier. Well, let's. Let's talk about what it is that we're going to get into today.
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Okay. Today I'm going to talk about prayer because. Or let me say effective prayer, because a lot of people there are. That are Christian, they just don't know how to pray and they don't see results because they don't know how it works. So I'm going to go over the scriptures and show you how it works. So that. Because corporate prayer is super powerful. I mean, prayer alone is really good, too. Really, really good. But we are, we are citizens of a higher kingdom. Got to remember that. The identity. You have to get the identity down. We are citizens of the highest kingdom. So we pray from that position, not from a position of just begging God. That's what most people do, beg God. Right. Please help me. Please. I, you know, I got this problem, and it doesn't matter what your problem is. And, and if you're reduced to begging. Begging is not what moves God. The word of God is what moves God. It tells you that angels hearken to the voice that's speaking the word of God. And all his promises are yes and amen. And that God's not a liar. He. And then he. He's not a man that he should lie. He watches over his word to make sure it performs so that it performs to do what it says, whatever's in the scripture. So he has to, by law, He. Everything's judicial. And you have to understand that by law he has to watch over his word to make sure it performs what it says. He's not a man that he should lie. His promises are yes and amen. So if you know what the promises are, you can partake of your divine Nature call on those promises and it has nothing to do with how he feels about you. It has nothing to do with, with, you know, whether he likes you or doesn't like you. It says that God is no respecter of persons. He'll do for you what he will do for me. But you have to know how to pray effectively because it tells you. Let me see where I wrote it down so I can tell you which. Which scripture it is. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much. That's James 5, 16. Okay, so the effectual prayer, that's the effective prayer of a righteous man. Okay? Are you righteous? Yes. If you are under the blood of Jesus Christ, that's what makes you righteous. You being super holy and trying to follow the law is not what makes you righteous. Being under the blood of Jesus is what makes you righteous. So the effective fervent, that means people who are going to be fervent about prayer. Right? There you go. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much. Meaning it gets results. So number one, you want to be effective, right? Number two, you want to be in a righteous standing. So you want to repent regularly. You want to live a lifestyle of repentance, right? And as a Christian and. Oh, and guys, you are guys, you also, there is a scripture in there that says. And I'll find it. It's somewhere in. About being in good standing with your wife so that your prayers are not hindered.
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Really?
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Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
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You're telling me my wife is hindering my prayers?
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Unbelievable.
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Yes, sir. Yes, sir, I am telling you that.
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That's a fascinating one. I gotta stop you right here already. Because it's like, now this is an important topic. It's one that I don't hear discussed often. And already in the first. We've been here for eight minutes. Part of that was introductions. She's already saying things that are new to me, which is always fantastic. I always appreciate talking to you because I learned things. I learned things. And that's fantastic. And I didn't know that. Oh, my button doesn't work. My wife is hindering my prayers. That's an interesting thing. But not that she's hindering. It's the relationship with your wife has to be in good standing because that's a hindrance. Let's unpack that a little bit.
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Okay, so it's first Peter 3, 7. I found it. And it says, husbands, be good to your wives, so your prayers are not hindered.
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Wow.
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And it says, and show her honor. Okay. Because it tells you. I know. A friend came to me, and she goes, oh, my gosh. Did you know that the word says that we're supposed to submit to our husbands? And I said, yes, I do, but they're also supposed to cherish us. So I have no problem submitting to a man that cherishes me. I have no problem with that.
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That honors you.
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That's right. Honor. Honor. Big time. Big time. Honor your wife. Guys, it's right here if you want your prayers to come to pass. Yeah. It's about how you treat that woman. And. And not only that, she'll treat you good. Women, women just. They want to be cherished.
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That's, you know, how I honor my wife. We were. We were talking about something the other day, and it was this idea of if somebody hit on me, I think me and Matt were talking about it, and I said that I would tell them to stop. And Matt said, what if they didn't? And I said, I would kill them with my hands, I think is the phrase that I used. And so. And I think that that is. I don't know exactly if that's. That's honorable. Feels honorable. When I said it, I meant it honorably.
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Honorably. Absolutely. Absolutely. That. I mean, that's what the man is. He's the protector. Right? That's the role that you guys play.
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But okay, it says, and show her honor as a fellow heir of the grace of life so that your prayers will not be hindered. So make sure you do that. And you're, you know, matter of fact, if your prayers are being hindered and you're speaking the word, you're releasing the Word, there's an issue. And you can get with the Holy Spirit to find out what that issue is. But, like, okay, because like the Lord says in another scripture, you pray amiss. And another one, it says, he knows what we have need of before we ever ask. Well, if he knows what we have need of, like, why do we even need to pray it? Because it's about relationship yeah, it's all about relationship. He, He. Okay, so God uses godly inspired men to bring his will into the earth. Because the earth is a dark realm run by a demonic God, the God of this world, right? And so our kingdom, which is inside of us, if you're born again, you have been given a new spirit that's connected to God, the most high God, the most high kingdom. You're. You're. You're backed and packed with angels that hearken. They don't even have to go up and say, hey, God, you know, Corbeau's asking me, you know, for this. Is it okay if I do that? No, the promises are already yes and amen. So if you're calling on promises with a motive, that's right, you have. You have to have good motives. Because like the Lord said about the Pharisees, they would go out and pray in public so that they would be seen by everybody. And he says, verily, I tell you, they have their reward. You got it. That's what you wanted. That's what you got. That's your reward. But if you're praying in private, the. The Father will open you, openly reward you, okay? Because you're not doing it for show. So you're the motive of your heart. Like, if you're like, lord, I just really want a Porsche, you know, I really want a Lamborghini and, you know, so that I can pick up hot chicks and cheat on my wife and whatever. Okay, the motive of your heart is not. Right, right, right. But if you're. Lord, I need a car because I need a job. And so I'm asking for divine connections. I'm asking for your favor. I'm asking you to show me what I can do to, you know, put some skin in the game. He'll. He'll do it. It says, I will give you the desires of your heart. And it. It. We're supposed to delight ourselves in him. So there's all of these scriptures that are to help you. So let's take one for example. Let's take salvation. Okay? You want to pray for someone who's not saved? Do. Okay, like, do. Do you know somebody. Can y' all think of somebody that you know?
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Yeah, I think we just had one on the show. Right? We were just talking to Thomas. Thomas. Yeah. Thomas is, uh, a real piece of shit.
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No, he's not a real pos. Okay, perfect.
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You know, he was a conspiracy theorist before he was ever, you know, a believer or anything like that. And he's been through freemasonry and everything. So, yeah, I don't believe he saved.
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No. So is he still in Freemasonry?
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I don't know what's going on with. With Thomas.
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A little slippery.
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I have no idea. Like, I think he. He's been somebody who has been in conspiracy for so long. The way he got in it was, you know, if you're into conspiracy, you might have had the notion at some point, like, well, why don't I just get in there and figure out, like, what they're doing? You know what I mean? And. And now I. I can feel he's like, Christ curious, you know, But I don't know. It's hard to know. Isn't everybody? Isn't everybody? It's hard to know a man's heart, isn't it?
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Oh, yeah, but the Lord does. So let's. Let's use Thomas, okay? Let's use Thomas. And then. And then y' all let me know when he comes to the Lord, because I want to. I want to rejoice too. Okay? So this is how we do it, okay? There's. There's scriptures that says agreement. It's all about agreement. And remember, it's all judicial. Everything's judicial. Everything works judicially. Angels hearken to the voice that's speaking the word of God. We're going to release our. Our. Our scriptures in faith, okay? We're gonna. We're gonna absolutely, you know, believe. And faith, by the way, let me just go over faith real quick. Faith is agreement with what heaven says, not what the world says, okay? It's agreement with heaven. That's what faith is. And I'm talking about 1000% sure that what that word says is yours because you're a citizen and that's your inheritance. The. The promises are yours, okay? So there's also a gift of faith. You can pray that for people. And if you are weak in faith, you can pray. Lord, will you give me the gift of faith, please? He also says, get understanding. Get. Get wisdom. Get understanding. And to me, understanding is absolutely key for people to change their life, because you won't. You won't stick with it unless you understand why you're doing what you're doing. So to me, understanding, and it's one of the seven spirits of the Lord. There's the spirit of counsel, the spirit of might, spirit of knowledge, spirit of understanding. It's one of the major. One of the seven spirits of the Lord, fear of the Lord and the spirit of the Lord, okay? So understanding is absolutely key. And he tells you, get Wisdom, get understanding. And faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God, it says. In other words, it means reading the word and understanding what it, what it's saying. That's how you build faith. So if you're reading and I tell people all the time, and, and they write me and they tell me it's a game changer, read one chapter a day, you're talking about five or 10 minutes, it will change your life. And, and they tell me, people tell me it does change. It has changed my life and one chapter a day. And if you don't have 10 minutes for God, then you're not really trying. I mean, be honest with yourself, right? So carve that time out. Get up 10 minutes early if you have to. Don't do it at night when you're passing out and you can't even read three sentences without falling asleep. Give him your best. Give him your first, and give him the morning. You know, when you're alert and you can sit down and read it, but, and look at what it says. But faith, as far as faith, you know, it's a, it's agreement in faith. When we pray in agreement, and we're about to. For Thomas, we're going to pray in agreement for Thomas. And it says, let every word be established. That means come into manifestation out of the mouth of two or three witnesses. Okay, we're going to witness, we're going to release. And then there's also a scripture that says, Mark 11:24, it says, Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it and it will be yours. And then Matthew 18:19 says, Anything two of you agree upon, my Father will provide it from heaven. So I'm always grabbing people, by the way. Don't, don't grab an unbeliever and don't even grab, you know, a Christian that doesn't understand, you know, doesn't, doesn't have real faith in the scriptures because you're not. You don't really have a partner. You don't have that agreement that you need. And if you can't find anybody, then email me and I'll agree with you.
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Nice.
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Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, I'm happy to do that. You know, I'm happy to agree. But, but you better, you better be able to tell me what scripture you're standing on, because I'm not going to agree with you for Lamborghini just because you want one. I have, you have to have a scripture that you're standing on. And then in The Book of James. It tells you you have to persevere. You have to persevere. Persevere. Stand on that word. Stand on that word. Believe it in faith. Persevere. And that. That is the perfect man. It tells you that in the Book of James, that is the perfect man who lacks nothing. He is relentless, like a. Like a pit bull on something who's not going to let go. And I'm going to give you all a testimony in a minute that's going to blow your mind.
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Okay, before we. Before we're having a little bit of an audio issue. It's like a clicking. I just want to have her try to refresh the browser real quick.
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Okay.
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And see if when she comes back, it's not. Because it wasn't there when we started the show. And then I feel like it's been working. So just go ahead and refresh your browser, and then we'll get into this.
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I like David's favorite fix.
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Refresh the browser. Is it plugged in? Have you tried turning it off? I got to tell you, I love the idea that we're about to pray for Thomas. I love Thomas.
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I'm actually a little scared because he's probably driving right now.
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Oh, well, what if he has, like, a. All of a sudden a moment, some. Where he. Like, he realizes on the highway that Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life. But how do you feel?
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Like we're. We're. We're pranking him spiritually.
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Spiritual pranking.
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Yeah.
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Where he realizes, like, oh, shit, I've been kind of. There we go. Okay, say. Say. Well, let's just continue the conversation. And even if it's there, we'll just have to continue because I don't think there's a fix.
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I still hear it. I still hear it, too.
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You're getting a little clicking. Yeah, it's like her mic's clipping out.
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Yeah.
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Like, it's like almost like she's too loud. Not on our end, but as if you're too loud for your own microphone.
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I have it down pretty low. Is it still good?
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It's still doing the clicking thing. It's really not the end of the world. It's just a little thing, you know? It is what it is. You could hear it. I didn't know. Were you. Okay, you're getting your own.
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All right.
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Don't worry about it.
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Let's just.
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Let's go through it. We'll be fine.
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Let's just make sure she's not too low.
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All right.
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Okay. And Well, y' all just pray in agreement with me. And we just break the power of the enemy. And we pray, Heavenly Father, for you to clear up everything and remove all the clicking so that it's a good audio quality for the people. Right?
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Yes.
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I don't hear it anymore. Do you?
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We hear it. It's only something that happens when you're speaking, so I don't know if you would be able to. To hear it. I mean, if you don't have what's called monitor in your. In your headphones, but it's. It's not a big deal. It's fine. Oh, somebody said twist your auxiliary cord. What's plugged into your laptop?
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Okay.
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Oh, she's using the mic. The. The laptop. On the microphone. I mean, the microphone. Laptop. So that doesn't really matter either. It's all right. Don't worry about it.
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No, I've got a different. I got a different microphone, but. But it's just USB plugin.
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Huh. That's interesting.
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All right, well, let's go for it
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is what it is.
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Okay. Okay. Okay. Do you still hear it?
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No, actually, once you touch your microphone, I feel like it stopped.
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Oh, okay. Awesome. Thank you.
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Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Okay, so let's pray for Thomas. Did it come back?
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Yeah, it did, but it's okay.
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That's all right. Lord fix it for us. Okay. All right. So when we're praying for Thomas, we're going to be praying in agreement. And what do we know as far as salvation, how salvation goes? What do we know from the scriptures? We know in 2nd Corinthians 4. 4 that the God of this world puts blinders on the minds of unbelievers. So he's got blinders on his mind. Okay. There's another scripture in John 6:44 that says that no one comes to the Father unless. I mean, no one comes to Jesus unless the Father first calls them. Okay, so we're going to ask him to call them. We know that people's hearts get hardened because of traumas and people crapping on them and things that they could. Didn't understand. Where was God? You know, their, their hearts become hardened. So we're going to ask him to soften his heart and. And then they believe lies. They're believing lies because the truth is Jesus. He's the way, the truth and the life. And the Holy Spirit is the spirit of truth. He will guide you into all truth. So he's believing lies. So we want those lies exposed. Right? So this is strategic prayer, effective prayer, fervent prayer. Okay? Now you're always, when you're praying, you're always going to pray in the Word and you're going to. To take out the enemy. So you're bringing in our kingdom and what we want, and we're taking out their kingdom and what they're doing. So what is their kingdom doing? First of all, there are spirits in everybody. So he has a spirit of pride or rebellion or idolatry or religion, some kind of opposing force that's keeping him from, from, from receiving Christ. Because the gift is free. And it's like the jackpot. Who would not want that, right? I mean, a complete retard, you know? Okay, well, I can't use that word because we're all retarded.
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There's, you know, people that understand by inflection is it, is it a good or is a bad retard? There is such.
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Exactly, exactly. Okay. And we know that angels are going to hearken to the voice of speaking the word of God. So we're going to speak the word of God into this situation. Okay? So we're going to pray over them now and we're going to say, heavenly Father, we just come before you corporately. And your word says that anything that two or three of you agree upon, my Father will provide it from heaven. Let every word be established out of the mouth of two or three witnesses. So we call this done already. We want to lift up Thomas to you, plead the blood of Jesus over him, and break all the demonic assignments against him in his life. Right now we bind the spirits of religion, pride, rebellion, idolatry, or any other opposing or hindering force that is keeping him from finding the truth of Jesus Christ. We, we ask you, Lord, to remove the blinders from his mind. We ask you, Father God, to call his name. Y' all know his last name.
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American Thomas the Paranoid American.
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Okay? Thomas the Paranoid American God, you know who he is, and we're asking you to call his name. We're asking you to soften his heart where his heart has become hardened. And we're asking you to expose the lies that he has believed that are keeping him from Jesus Christ and bringing him to a full surrender. So we release our faith. We stand in agreement. We call it done. We thank you and praise you, and we will persevere in prayer for him until he belongs to you. In Jesus name we pray. Amen.
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Amen. I look forward to having a new Thomas the paranoid American in Christ at Bohemian Grove, because Thomas has been a part of Bohemian Grove every single time we do it. He's a great dude, Fantastic, super talented, awesome researcher, and a good dude. And so we're always going to have him at Bohemian Grove. He does a great job of, like, handling the merge, and then he also performs this. This Bohemian Grove. We're going to have a new Thomas the paranoid brother in Christ. Huh?
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Imagine. I'll be honest. That would be a transformation that would surprise even me, because somebody like Thomas knows. He knows, like, so much.
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He knows. So he knows too much.
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It's almost like to his detriment. So, yeah, that. That gets in the way of having this blind faith that people will need. And he's a dude that kind of needs explanations for everything.
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So, yeah, dude, I would love it. He'll get what he needs to see a Thomas that leans much more on. On faith. But, yeah, yeah, I think that's. He's a guy that, you know, I was listening to him before I was ever doing podcasts. Well, prayers for Toad to find a loving wife. Amen to that, too.
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D
We.
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A
We'll give him away in. In marriage. I know you're supposed to give away, like, a woman, like, that's kind of a thing, but we're going to give Toad away in marriage at Bohemian Grove. Can you talk a little bit, Laura, about this idea of. Of faith in it already being done? Because when I pray for people, you know, my walk is. Is still a very new one. And when I pray for people or I. I pray for, you know, things that I. I want to happen or. Or any of these things or, you know, like, recently I learned this idea of maybe it's important to open a prayer. And I'd love to know what you think about this, Laura, with first praying that. That God's will be done. So, you know, this idea of, like, thy will be done, thy kingdom come, and it's like opening that, like, whatever, whatever God's will is first and foremost is the thing that I want to happen. And then after that, I move to things that I want for people. I've taken to praying for My enemies, because I've actually seen what I think are. Are tangible results in the prayers that you pray for yourself and the people around you. They're almost like expedited when you pray for your enemies. But this idea of having faith that these things are already done, and I'm like trying to do a psychological thing to trick myself into that by way of almost a speech pattern, which is just jumping straight to thanking God for it being done already. Like, it's already done. Because I think that there is such a thing. You ever hear if you force yourself to smile, you can psychologically improve your mood. If I thank God for his will already being done and my prayers already having been answered, then it is a psychological way of. Of getting deeper into that belief, the belief that these things are. Are done. This. Does that make sense?
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D
Yep, it sure does. And look, look, I'm gonna. Hey, I'm gonna go all the way out and reboot because that crackling is coming through on this end too. Not me, but when you're talking. So I know it's got to be driving people crazy. But I'm going to answer that when I come back in. Okay.
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A
Okay. It's fine. Take your time. We could always edit it out and post. Go. Go ahead and reboot your whole thing and. And doodly do.
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D
Okay. Okay, I'll be right.
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A
I do think that that's. That's really hilarious, though, having just done that episode with Thomas, because, you know, when, whenever we have Thomas on, I go look forward to the screeching retards who are going to say, look, they're demon worshipers now because they had a freemason on.
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B
Oh, yeah, that's always fun.
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A
And I go, I know this dude is a good dude. And somebody's walking. You know, it says to be not equally yoked with non believers. We're not in a business relationship with him. And I'm not kissing him on the mouth. Right. So I'm not. Yo.
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B
Well, before you got here, I have something.
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A
Okay, well, all right. Maybe you're yoked with them.
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B
Right.
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A
Then it's something to consider. But as far as, like, friendship, like, I'm not going to cast a dude out of my life because he's not with God, where I feel like I'm with God, and I think it would do the opposite to his walk with God if I just cast him out. Like, that's kind of like what Jehovah's Witnesses do. It's like if you, if you transgress. Yeah. You're not supposed you're cast out.
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B
And also, what I. What I will say about Thomas, too, is that he. Like, before you showed up, we were having a long. A longer conversation about, you know, just like, the nature of God, what it is to him. He has a slightly different view on it. I'm explaining him. I'm explaining to him my perspective on what this is. And as far as I can tell, he's like, yeah, okay, I understand what you're saying. I respect that. You know, it's just something that he's thinking about. So that's. What else. What else are we supposed to do? I'm just, you know, I'm gonna explain my position and why I feel the way I feel about a certain thing if he asks, which it did come up in that. In that manner, you know.
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A
Right.
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B
So that's what it was. But, yeah, I enjoy the dude. He's. He's hilarious.
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A
Maybe it's what we're supposed to do is pray for him. Exactly what we just did.
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B
I think we might have sabotaged him. He's driving right now. He might be on the i4 and.
- [32:05]
A
And just swerved all of a sudden, encountered an angel, got blapped up by the. The Holy Spirit.
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B
Hashtag fear not.
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A
But, yeah, you know, it's just one of those things where I see a lot of people do that. They screech because somebody was involved with something at some point, and then they just slam the door on them. I don't really have that. Like, if you're a practicing witch, maybe that's a little bit of a different story. But I. But you know how I am. I don't have fear about those sorts of things. Like, you're not going to do anything to me. And God tells us not to be fearful, not to be discouraged. If God is with us, then who can be against us? So I'm not worried about, like, something coming off of Thomas and getting on to me. And I think that that's kind of a mistake that a lot of us make. In fact, it almost looks comical. It's like you're supposed to be with the Almighty God. And then any instance you see of somebody who's, you know, outside of that, whether Freemasonry or otherwise, you screech and you slam the door and it goes like. Well, that's a fearful person, you know, and that's also not. It's not trying to get someone to be saved. Right. Like, that's the opposite of that. All right, go ahead, Laura. Let's. Let's. Let's Hear it? Let's hear you click.
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D
Okay. Is it still clicking? I still. Oh, yay. Okay, cool. Awesome. Okay, so as far as, like, what you're saying, is it still there, David?
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A
No, I don't think so.
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D
Oh, okay. Okay. I thought when you went like that, I thought you went like.
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A
No, I just pointed him because of the way he looks.
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D
Okay, okay, okay. So as far as you thanking God in advance, that's exactly how you want to pray. Because it tells you in scripture that we call things that are not as though they are. Right. Because of faith.
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A
Call things that are not as though they are.
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D
Yep. So you're thanking him that it's already done. So whenever the Lord told Abraham, you're going to be the father of many nations, and, you know, it wasn't until years and years and years later, but he said, okay, I receive it, you know, that's awesome. I don't have a kid, but okay. And Sarah's, you know, 90 years old, but okay. You know, he just. He's calling something that is not on his faith as though it was. Now, they tried to take it into their own hands by going, well, you know, maybe God meant hagar and they messed up there. But because. Because God said it and because it. It's all faith. It's all calling things that are not as though they are from a position of the most high kingdom. We're not down here begging. We're up there commanding the word. We're releasing word. As a representative of the highest kingdom,
- [34:52]
C
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- [35:19]
D
Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. So we have authority over demons, not people. Not. And by the way, I want to tell people, don't ever turn curses back on witches. Don't ever do that. I got in big trouble for that. I mean, I didn't get in trouble from God. I got myself in trouble because that's the way things work. So. So a lot of deliverance ministers will tell you to turn the curses back on them. And I used to say that. I used to say, yeah, Lord, I boomerang the curses of the witches. And Warlocks back on them sevenfold, that they would come to the knowledge that there's a power that's higher than the one they serve and surrender their life to Jesus. So my intentions were good, but I ended up in a bed anyway. I quit praying like that, and years later, and I ended up in a bed and with blood clots in my leg, crying out to God, begging him, what is going on? Because I had. I had fallen off a ladder before that. I ran my face into the back of a chair. I fell off my bed backwards, smashed my head up against the couch. I mean, all this clumsy stuff that I don't do. I'm very agile. I'm very fluid. I don't do these things. So I was like, what is going on? And he said, there's a judgment against you. And I said, okay, what. What is it for? Why? What is it? And I said, is this witchcraft? And he said, don't you know they know how to boomerang, too? And I knew right away what he was talking about, but I hadn't prayed like that in years. Well, what had happened was, was I started getting into sra. Satanic ritual, Abuse, deliverance. A friend of mine, that's a therapist, asked me to come into it and help her, and I said, well, let me pray on it. And the Lord told me to go ahead. So have you ever heard of new levels, new devils?
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A
No, I'm not familiar with that one.
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D
Okay, well, it's just kind of a saying. And when you go to a new level of spiritual warfare, you. You got a new crew that's going to let you know, hey, you're not coming up in my territory, chick. You know, they're going to let you know. And so they went looking for dirt on me. And because I live a pretty clean life, because I do deliverance, so I have to. They're looking for open doors where they can legally attack me. And they had to go all the way back to, like three years back when last time I did that prayer and. And use that against me because it's law in the New Testament. And the Lord, I kept hearing in my. In my head, bless those that persecute you. Bless those that persecute you. And I said, I know, I know, Lord. I know that scripture. And he kept telling me, look it up. And I wouldn't do it because I didn't want to move because my legs hurt really bad. And, you know, whenever I had the blood clots. So I finally leaned over and I got it. And I knew the first Part of that scripture, but I didn't know the second part and, or I didn't remember the second part. It said, bless those that persecute you. Bless and do not curse. Then he took me in cross referencing through the Bible, he took me to other scriptures that showed me and had already taught me that week. He loves humanity. He loves them. He loves the witches, even though they're witches, even though they're warlocks. He loves them. He loves humanity. And we were given authority to shut down their demons. You combine their demons, you can break their curses, but you cannot harm them. You're harming human beings and he loves them. They're made in his image. So you do not do that. You do not do. So then he started showing me other scriptures that showed we are not even allowed to judge unbelievers because they're in, they're part of another kingdom that would be like, like the United States trying to impose their laws on a Russian that's not their citizen. That's a different kingdom. So it's a different. You see what I'm saying,
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A
Judge? Because that's something that I think maybe I misunderstand or, or people in general misunderstand. It strikes me as one of those things, like when people say love is love and it's like, what is, what is the Bible talking about when it says love love? What does it mean when God loves you versus what is a cultural context for the terminology love as it is in like, let's say America, you know, here in the west, love has been all twisted up and, and misconstrued and watered down. And has the same thing happened to Judge? Because let's say I see an individual who looks away, let's say threatening and, and unstable. And I go, not going to interact with them. Going to keep my, my family safe. And so I'm gonna, let's say avoid this person. And then somebody might say, well, don't judge people. And I go, I'm, I just, I see something that is raising alarms to me. Is that the same thing that we're talking about here? What do we mean by judge?
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D
Okay, so, so it's okay for you to assess, you know, someone and go, that, that guy looks like he poses a threat to my family. But what you want to do is say that guy's demons, that guy has demons in him, right? And okay, and you're judging the demons and you can clearly see he's bad news, he's bad news, and he has, he has ill intent. You can see that. You can Perceive that. You can even perceive that with your spirit. That surpasses the faculties of using analyzation and, you know, the cognitive skills that we have in the brain. And you can pick just like, top. You know, he had a. He had a dream or he had like a vision or. Or where he said Jesus was on a donkey coming into Jerusalem. And he said, I was in the audience and I knew. I knew that wasn't him. I knew that was a counterfeit. Well, he didn't. He didn't use any skills, you know, to analyze it or to, you know, think it through. He just knew by his spirit. And you can know by your spirit that guy is bad news. And he's not gonna. So you're not judging him. You're judging whatever it is you're picking up, you know, whatever it is you're picking up on. You're judging the spirits that are operating in them. And. And so that kind of judgment is fine. But whenever I say, you know, like, lord, I curse these witches, you know, I turn them curses back on them. And remember when. When James and John said, lord, do you want us to call fire down from heaven? And he goes, you don't know what spirit you are of. He's saying, you see, he's saying, no, you're. You. You're trying to call fire down on humanity. Don't do that. He. And instead, you don't. You don't judge that situation by the people that are carrying out, you know, demonic acts or. Or evil acts. You want to. You want to shut down the influence that's inside of them. And you do have authority to do that. So you can, right? Then you say, I bind whatever's operating. Every evil force that's operating in that guy, I bind it right now. They're not allowed to function. They're not allowed to operate. They're not allowed to influence him because I'm here and my wife and kids are here. You can do that in supermarket. You can go in before you go in the supermarket, take authority over that place and. And you shut down the powers of darkness. They're not allowed to function while you're there. They will not. If you go buy a. Like a men's club and you drive by it every day and you point to it and say, in the name of Jesus, it needs to be in your territory. It needs to be in your neighborhood. You can't be going to other territories. And I'll tell you a testimony on that too. Oh, yeah, yeah. There's territories. There's territories. And you can say that's my main
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B
issue with some missionaries.
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A
Oh, yeah, missionaries going to, like, India
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B
and dealing red haired, white dude. Why are you in, you know, standing in front of a Quetzalcoatl statue in Mexico, perhaps stay home. But why, why, in your opinion, you know, Elijah is bringing down fire from heaven and killing these, you know. Well, well, he's, he's bringing down fire to light the altar, but then he goes and he kills the prophets of baal and, and that's acceptable. And it seems like it was, he was directed to do that. But then years, you know, thousands of years of years later, when they asked Jesus, he's like, no, we don't do that anymore. So what, what happened in the interim there?
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D
Well, okay, when, when Jesus came in the, and the offer of salvation went out to the whole world, you know, now it's, it's, you know, it's a, it's a different paradigm. It's a completely different paradigm. And, and like my brothers and sisters, your brothers and sisters, they're over there in Palestine, you know, they're over there in Syria, they're over in India, they're in China. That's, that is our nation. Our, the peculiar nation that the Bible talks about is a nation without borders. And, and, and I'm more concerned about praying for them, for their provision and their protection, for them to fly under the radar because they're persecuting Christians than I am about praying for, for Trump to save America. You know, that, that nationalism, Christian nationalism, that's a trap, man. That's not, yeah, that's a different identity. That's not our identity in Christ. And that's not what the Bible tells us. The Bible tells us that our brothers and sisters, because Jesus, whenever they, they came to the tent, he's inside the tent. They said, hey, bro, your, your mom and your brother and sisters are outside the tent. They want to talk to you. And he goes, who are my, my mother and my brother and my sisters, but those that follow the commandments of God, these right here in front of me, these are my brothers and sisters. So he's making the distinction that your identity, your spiritual identity is first. Everything else comes second. Spiritual identity first. You two, you two guys, you, you're my brothers in Christ. You know, y' all are believers. Even though, just like when I first met y', all, you know, I called you diamonds in the rough. Like, that's, that's what y' all are. You're rough around the edges, but your diamonds, I, I see I have the gift of exhortation, which means, like, I can talk to a prostitute and all I see are all the beautiful things that God sees about her. You know, I can talk. I can talk to people with really rough language or even a, you know, a Freemason person, you know, or whatever. And I see what God has for them. And. And I speak, and I speak that out of my mouth, calling things that are not as though they are, because they're going to come to pass if I stay in agreement with heaven, because I'm God's representative, who he's in agreement with. He's. He's operating through this realm, through his vessels that carry light. We're the only source of light in this dark realm. We are. So there is no other light. We're in a dark realm. And it's. The people are covered in gross darkness. And so that's what it says in Isaiah. So we are the ones that have the answers. We are the ones that have the love. We are the ones. And so if you're messed up with, you know, anger and bitterness and all of that, man, you got all kinds of open door offense. The spirit of offense, like, number one spirit in America, everybody is offended about, you know, their coffee wasn't hot enough and, you know, they didn't get their teeth fast enough. And, you know, everything offends. Okay? That's a. The spirit of offense is a big, fat, wide open door for a whole bunch of other spirits to come and operate in you. And now you're not functioning in your highest. You, you know, your highest ability to be a representative of Jesus Christ. Because we're his hands and feet. We're the ones that go and hug someone. I. I have a friend, she does deliverance. She was literally delivered from someone giving her a hug because she. Yes, yes, it broke. It broke. The tears came. She got delivered because of the way she was raised and because she's a heavyset woman and people would shun her. So just a hug. Somebody that showed her love broke her. It broke her. And she's a very strong deliverance minister now, so it's amazing, you know, that's great.
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A
So hesitant to touch people. Yeah, I'm like, very, like, I just. I don't know what it is. Like, I, you know, I. It's fine. Like, I do hugs and I do, you know, handshakes and all that, but, like, prolonged physical, you know, contact is. I'm always like, it's only a matter of a couple of seconds before I'm looking for an escape.
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B
Route.
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A
I don't know what the hell that is. But you know something? One of the things that you said about not cursing witches.
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C
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D
Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty.
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A
The reason that seems very obviously true to me, besides the fact that it's right there in scripture, tells you not to curse them, but because it's. It's hard. And, and the difficulty comes from this desire, right? This desire, whether it's ego driven or it's driven by that offense, right? I've taken offense. And so I want to get even. I want to get revenge. And it says, vengeance is. Is not ours. Vengeance is the Lord's. But I have. I have a witch that my father is married to a witch, a very open witch. And just pray for her. She. Well, so this is. I. I do pray for her. And I've never. I. I never thought about it, but I've never said, you know, like, curses or anything, just that she would come out of that spirit, come to the realization that Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life that. That God blesses them and lifts them up. And ultimately every time I pray for somebody, I say, like, let them become a righteous voice for your kingdom. But I. I don't do that. I actually don't do that. And I never, Never thought about. Never crossed my mind to. To really say. And I know that. I know that lady's done, you know, some things, tried to do some things to me and my family. I'm not worried about it. I've watched her, like, I've watched her burn effigies, little paper effigies, whisper stuff to them and stare at me and my. My wife and my son while she's doing it. And then she puts them on the floor as they burn, and then she gets another one and she whispers stuff to it and then sets it on fire and lets it burn very. I don't know what she. I don't care what she. What she's doing, but it never crossed my mind to say something like, whatever she's done to me, put it back on her. Always just Say, like, let him come out of that spirit. Let them break any agreements and bonds and. And. And things like that they've come into.
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B
What if you just said. When she was doing that. What if you said, no, you know. You know, you.
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A
Yeah, that is the ultimate.
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B
That's a curse.
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A
This is what people don't know about doing curses on people with the. No, you. It just goes right back.
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B
It is a curse, you know, you stop.
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A
You.
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B
Yeah, I know.
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A
That's. It's like a. Uno card.
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B
Yeah.
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D
So you get them back, but you can't win them to the Lord that way. And ultimately, that's what he's out for. He's out to win them. So. But I would. I would, David. I would break any. Any curses, hexes, vexes, spells, incantations, sorcery, witchcraft, divination, all that. You break that off and then you just go on about your happy life. But. But yeah, yeah, if she's doing witchcraft, you know, right in front of you and looking at you while she's burning stuff, sticking. The voodoo doll and, you know, that looks dressed up with your clothes on, you know. Yeah.
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A
She was putting her. Her panties.
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B
Oh, yeah.
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A
In the coffee. You know, you put the coffee thing in and you fill the grinds or whatever. The big coffee. Whatever it's called.
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B
I don't know how to make coffee.
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A
You put the coffee in the thing. It's not the K cup, it's the. The pot. The coffee pot. She's putting her panties in the coffee pot. We caught her doing that, which is also like a whole thing. It's like a love spell or whatever. I'm like, this is so goofy. And the problem is, you know, she thinks that she's coming to agreement with all these spirits and they're helping her. Their lives are like. It's a huge bummer. You know, they're not doing well. The fruits of these spirits, if you look at their lives, they're. You know, maybe there's some good fortune that befalls them occasionally, but everything is a struggle. Everything is falling apart. Their relationships are falling apart. This is the same interaction that we had with the chick who I said a bunch of mean things about. I probably shouldn't have said a bunch of mean things about her. Danielle, with the Raelian thing. But what I was trying to get her to understand was she's telling me she's in contact with a. Some sort of a galactic maternal spirit that is her space mom. Okay? And I go, hey, the fruits of your life. Because she's already explained to Me, like, I'm in debilitating pain. I'm addicted to opioids. All my relationships have fallen apart. I'm, you know, experiencing basically psychosis and all this other stuff. And I go, you know, the Bible says, tell the spirits to confess. I believe it's a test of spirits to confess that Jesus Christ is the son of the living God. And one of the other things is that just test the fruits. And by that, it seems to me, and I could be wrong in my interpretation, just look at their lives. Look at the fruits that are coming from their interactions with this thing. I'm like, you're telling me you're in contact with something unbelievable and divine, and your life is in shambles. There's something really wrong here. And it's the same thing with.
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B
I wish you sold out VIP experience for your live show.
- [53:10]
A
Maybe. Yeah. Where's your VIP tickets?
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D
Huh?
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A
No, no, no, no, no. Say it's the spirit of pride. But I. But I am. I. I observed the same thing in my father's life where I go. He even tells me over the phone, he's, you know, last time I talked to. It's been a long time now, but he goes, yeah, you know, sometimes she does things and, like, some cool stuff happens. I'm paraphrasing, but that was basically, it's like, sometimes she does a spell and what do you know? Like, we get what we want. I'm like, I don't know what that means. You win 50 on a scratch off. Like, what does that mean, man? Because everything else looks real bad. Your relationships, your health, your, you know, all the things in your life. So.
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B
Yeah, well, when things are falling apart in your life, it's. I think it's hard to pick up the pieces. But this is what Laura is talking about, where you were doing that. No, you curse back on. On these witches.
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D
Y.
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B
But I don't even think you remembered by the time that had come to roost. You, like, you don't even know what you did in the past. So, like, it's hard to kind of pick up the pieces of, like, where are you at now? What have I been doing? And put that into perspective. When your life is falling apart on.
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A
Yeah, it is different levels.
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B
Yeah, that. That's what a lot of what these people. That's what. Listen, I'll tell you the truth. It's what I go through constantly, too. It's. Everybody deals with this thing about where they're at. Like, you have to constantly pick up your life and go, okay, let me count all the pieces and, and take an inventory of what has happened over the last couple of years. And what have I done wrong? What have I done right? What could I do? What more, what could I do better in the future? Not many people do this. So people that are under that attack, that are in debilitating pain, forget about it. That's the last thing on their mind. And that's why they continue to spiral.
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A
And then what happens is it creates an opportunity to get into contact with some sort of predatory spirit that gives you obvious short term gain. So you interact with this thing because it presents itself to you and you do something to appease it. And then some little aspect of your life has a measurable increase in, in, you know, what is perceived as positivity. And you go, that's it. That's the thing. That's the thing that I'm going to follow now.
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D
That's the thing. And, and just what you said, it's like a scratch off. I mean, you know, you waste $5,000 on it and just because you won 50 bucks three times, you know, and so they keep on doing it, you know, you keep on doing it, keep wasting that money. And it's designed to work that way. But the wages of sin is death. And it will be the death of your body slowly. The death of your marriage, the death of your relationships, the death of your job, the death of your sanity, the death of whatever. And it's slowly dying. And they don't see that. They don't see the correlation.
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C
Liberty Mutual customizes your car and home insurance. And now we're customizing this ad for your morning commute to wake you up, which could help your driving. Science says that stimulating the brain increases alertness. So here's a pop quiz. How many months have 28 days? What gets wetter as it dries? What has keys but can't open locks? If you don't want to hear the answers, turn off this Liberty mutual ad now. 12 months. A towel, piano. Enjoy being fully alert.
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D
Liberty, Liberty, Liberty, Liberty. But, but yeah, we're not supposed to judge witches. And the reason I found that out was because I'm, I'm filled with the Holy Spirit. And I asked the Holy Spirit, he knows all things. He's the one who knows. So that's another thing is people need, like when you're a Christian, you're born again. You've received Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. And then you go get water baptized, there's another baptism, baptism by fire. And you definitely need that if you're ever going to walk in power, if you're ever going to walk in boldness, that's who has the boldness, is the Holy Spirit. That's who has the power. And, and John the Baptist said, I'm baptizing you in water, but one comes after me who will baptize you in fire and in the Holy Ghost. So that is right there. A whole lot of Christians, they, they go. Because I, I've even asked them, I'm like, why? One of the evidences is that you, you speak in tongues. Okay, so, so I said, if you don't speak in tongues, why do you feel like you're, like you're filled with the Holy Spirit? And they said, because whenever I converted to Christianity, that's when it happened. And I said, oh, okay, so what you think? Okay, there's two different works of the Holy Spirit. The first one is automatic. You're sealed. You're sealed by the Holy Spirit, you belong to Jesus. That is automatic. So it's not commanded. The other thing is not automatic, and it tells you to be filled with the Holy Spirit. And so it is commanded. That's when, like when Peter, they say, well, what do we do? And Peter says, all of you be baptized and be filled with the Holy Ghost. So it is commanded to be filled. And one of the evidences is, is your prayer language. And that it even tells you when you don't know what to pray, pray in the Spirit. You go pray in tongues and you will pray. He prays the perfect prayer through you. And it even says that sometimes words that, that you, you can't even articulate what it is because you're so grieved or you're in such a state that size come out of you, or groans, that is, that is the expression of the Holy Spirit praying for you through you and the perfect prayer to bring in. So you want to be filled, you want to be baptized in fire. And that's the difference. When you look at Christians that walk in power and in strength, and they, they stay in the game, you know, people like me, they, they will always be filled with the Holy Spirit. And then you have your nominal Christians, not, not anything against them. They. And they're going to go to heaven and everything, but they're not going to walk in the strength of their inheritance. This is our inheritance, and you walk in it. Now, you don't have to wait till you go to heaven. You walk in that power, in that strength now. And so I needed to know at my, in my time of need, I needed to know what the hell is going on. Why am I smacking my head into chairs and falling off the bed backwards and laying in a bed, you know, with blood clots? And he says, there's a judgment against you. Well, I teach on spiritual law, so he's speaking my language. I know what that means. I said, okay, well, what is it? And. And then he said, don't you know they know how to boomerang, too? Now, we can judge other Christians because they're in our kingdom, but it's to be in love. So if you were doing stuff, like, if you two guys were doing something, let's say y' all just got really big. You got a hundred thousand subscribers. Y' all are super rich. You're walking in all kinds of pride. And I would come to y' all and say, guys, you know I love you. I love you guys, but I gotta tell you, yup, man, y' all are on the razor's edge. Like, you're. You're going down. And pride comes before fall. And I don't want you to lose your show. I don't want you to lose your families. I don't. Because the. The enemy's not going after, like, you know, your tangible stuff. He's going after your thoughts. That's what he's going to go after. He's going to go after the way you think. He's going to go after your perspective because he's got you when he's got that, he's got you, he's got you. If you're. If you're down and out, if you're prideful, if you're. Whatever, you gotta keep yourself in check all the time. Stay in prayer. And I just regularly repent for pride because one of the aspects of pride is that you can't see it. So I just regularly repent for that and ask the Lord, put it before me in a way I can see it. Show me examples so that I can repent and correct those things. Also, like, you'll know you're not in pride when you can humble yourself. And. And let's say I slandered you guys on another show. And then the Lord dealt with me. And then I. I called you up and said, hey, I. I slandered you guys, and I'm sorry. And I just repent. And you don't have to accept it, but I just. I just want to apologize to you. I'm really sorry. Then it's on you. The ball's in your court, and it's up to you, whether or not you're going to forgive that person. But once you humble yourself and you do that a couple of times, it becomes very easy to say, hey, I don't have it all figured out, and I screwed up and I'm wrong. And it's, it's okay, it's okay to do that. It's okay to be like that. But, you know, our society teaches, like, no, double down. Don't ever admit it. Don't ever admit it. You know, they tell us, double down. Don't admit it. Don't humble yourself. That's wrong.
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Yeah, it's, it's, it's a tricky place to be. You know, this is something that I'm learning because I actually came from, from a background that was, it was very easy to apologize. And then I, I came to another place where once you become like any kind of a public character, everybody and their mother wants to.
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C
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D
Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty.
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A
Say something. And much of it, the vast majority of it, is not in good faith. It's just like this thing. People want to cast a stone because they're, they feel like they're underrepresented. They don't have an opportunity to engage in the discourse. They hear you say something, or they read you say something, and rather than just come at you in a reasonable way, which honestly would probably fall on, on deaf ears because there's so many comments, so many messages. They say something super reactive and super, you know, I would call it out of pocket. And then what that does is, evokes this response to me where now we're going back and forth, forth, and I have this one foot in comedy. And, and, you know, so I, I say these things where they start off in Jess, and then next thing I know, I am behaving in a way that's, like, prideful and arrogant, but it's still, like, coated with so much comedy that it is coming off, it's landing that way. So everybody's seeing it as jokes. And I, I, I'm, I'm grateful that I still have this Ability to let a thing go. So I could go all the way up to that line where me and this other person are in what looks like sort of this scene. Alberto. I mean, I called Alberto. This is kind of one of those instances, right, where, like, I think I'm God. Uniquely equipped me to be, at least in this place right now, because I. I learned somewhere along the line when I was younger that an apology is free. It doesn't cost you anything. And it is often incredibly meaningful to, like, another person. And so I. I've done that enough times to feel that release. Like, I know what that release is when it. When there's all this contention. And then all of a sudden, somebody just says a few simple words and a few. In a really simple order, and all of a sudden, the. The. The tensions release. So, you know, in the Albarino thing, I'm like, in that comedy, I'm in. And I'm also in this prideful place, and I'm trying at times to not cross the line. I'm making him a cat. I'm dressing like him. This is all very silly, and I don't think that there's anything inherently wrong with that. But then there are times where all of a sudden I step forward and I've stepped on, like, a live wire, and it's. It's made me reactive. And now. Now I'm in a place where I'm like, do I really hate this mother? Like, I like it, and I'm getting kind of crazy, you know? And then something happened where, you know, we were joking. We were joking here in the studio, and it was just like this prospect of calling him. Came up, has his number, like, yeah,
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you should call him after this. And Dave was like, yeah, I think I will.
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A
And I just called him. And then I told him. I was. I said. I said to him, like, I. I want to apologize, and I hope that you can forgive me. Like, I. I was making sure, like, this isn't, like, a disingenuous thing. And I. And I. I learned in apologizing, the best thing you can do is explain to a person exactly what you did that, you know, crossed the line and that. That helps it to be genuine. And I told him. I was like, dude, I was dabbling in this comedy. And then you asked for this debate, and so I decided to look into what you were about, and I thought I found something. And, you know, it's. First it's funny, then it's conspiracy, then it's funny, then it's conspiracy, and it's like, left foot, right foot, left foot, right foot. And I go to this place where, like, now I'm. I'm dragging you on the Internet in. In the fashion of, like, an insane person, which I will admit has its comedic value to it, you know, because I, I. I do a thing and behave in a way where, like, people. It's like a spectacle. Like, what is he doing? And I. I really take a lot of pleasure in, like, dancing around that line where you're not even sure if I actually dislike this person. You know what I mean? Like, that's. That's one of my favorite places to be in comedy, is where you're not sure that I even dislike this person at all. And. But man is. It's a. It's a. A wonky line to walk, and I'm just an idiot, and. And I'm just a man, so I'm gonna. When you're walking that edge you said you. That razor's edge, I'm gonna slip, and I'm gonna go too far this way and too far that way. But I'm just grateful that. That God gives me this ability, because I. I don't think it's. It's. I think it is an ability. I think it's something you. You can train, but it's, like a skill almost that I can actually apologize and, like, let a thing go, because I've seen people in this space get contentious with one another, and they will do it forever. David Ike is one of those guys where, like, David Ike hates Alex Jones so much that it's. It's morphed his face. Like, it's made him so. And it's like, this dude is. You know, he's up there. I don't know if he's. If he's 70. Is David Ike 70 now? Probably. No way. He's. He's up there, and he is filled with so much hatred. So whatever you think that this thing is doing to the other person, it's doing it to you too. Like, it's doing it to you.
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B
There's. I don't know, something I struggle with. I spoke about maybe even the last time with you, but the idea of pride, it's like I went from having zero pride, and that is actually not great to do because people then take advantage of you. I mean, the last time that somebody took. Took advantage of me wasn't great, and then I had to, again, display pride. But it's like, it's. It's a way to, like, dissuade people from doing that. Again. But then it goes too far. Like, many things. But one of the first times, I don't know, I was a. I'm. I'm a musician. I wrote five songs. Guy stole it and then just performed it with somebody else. And I was like, hey, you could have asked. You know, like, I wrote those songs, music, lyrics, everything. And he goes, oh, just because you were in the room doesn't mean you had anything to do with it. And I was like, that's crazy to say, because you'll never write another song because I wrote those. And of course he doesn't, because he can't. And I'm like, so I don't know. Like, you know, maybe I should have claimed a little bit more ownership over this instead of being, like, humble and saying, like, yeah, you know, this is ours. Because I was working with. You were singing. The guy was singing it. And, you know, I have now discussed this afterward with him. He apologized, but, like, doesn't change the fact that that happened. And I'm like, now I have to go back and take. Take some inventory about what I did wrong.
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But I think that's it, right? We're just. We're just humans. We're just humans. We're sinners and we're retards, and we're children.
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D
We're learning. We're the children of God. We're children. We're learning, you know?
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A
Yeah.
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D
And. And just. Just what Top was saying. I mean, you. After the fact, you assessed it and thought, where could I have done things differently? You know, how could I? And. Because there's. I don't think there's anything wrong with being ticked off, someone stealing, taking credit for something you did. There's nothing wrong with that. But allowing it to eat you up, you know, that's not good. And then speaking your piece to him is exactly what you did, which is good. And then it's on him, and he. It was good that he finally admitted. You know, he's trying to. He's trying to just, you know, make light of it, like, it wasn't a big deal. It is a big deal. It's stealing somebody else's creativity and taking credit for something that you didn't do. And what's funny, I don't even think you realize it. Top, you spoke over him, and you said, you'll never make another song again because you can't. And so you're literally speaking that. That's a curse. That's a word.
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B
It wasn't a curse. I didn't. I didn't Mean it. To curse him.
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A
I mean, observation.
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B
It's the truth. It's the truth. Like, I have a minor in music. You just. You sing. Well, I'm not a singer. You don't do this. You can't make this. And it's not that you will never. Maybe you can go to school and figure it out, or maybe you'll be, you know, channel some whatever and do it. But no, you can't do this thing because it's.
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It.
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B
Well, number one, that was directly from me. That's. It was a song that I wrote for my girlfriend, now wife. So, no, you can't make that song. You can't do it in the style that I did it because I studied and it took a lot of time for me to do this. And it's within my personality. And you don't have that skill set. I know him for a long time. That's not what you do. So, like, you can't do that. You can't steal claim and then think that you're gonna replicate because that's not what you do. So I just told him. It was like. I guess it's like a. It's not a curse, but I'm just letting you know you will not write a song because you did not write a song. You know what I mean? It's like.
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D
Because it's not his skill set. Right, Right.
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B
Yeah. Yeah. I'm not trying to curse him. Hopefully he does. You know, I hope he does learn and write songs, but not. But that mentality also of, like, you stole. So if you stole a thing, that means that you're not going to go back and. And then learn how to do a thing because you stole it. And you think that you keep stealing. And it's like you're. What I'm saying is, like, you're not going to get another. You're not going to have another song because I'm not going to write one for you to take because that's what you just did here.
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D
You know what I mean? Yeah, but you're right. You're right. They reap what they've sown. That's a law. That's a spiritual law.
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B
But then I have to show pride. You know what I mean? Now I have to. Now I have to be like, no, no, no. Because before it was a very. Like, you know, okay, yeah, let's do that. We're doing this together. But then I have to go, no, no, no, me. You know, screw you. Because now you've already done that and you've Kicked me to the side, as if you've done a thing.
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D
And.
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B
And then when I look back at
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it, I go, that's not pride. That's what is learning. That's. That's you. You, you know, learning that he can't be trusted. Now he has to develop and work on building your trust in him again because you're going to be apprehensive to do anything around him because of what he did to you. So it's not pride. That's not pride. Pride is like, you know, you taking, taking credit for, like, your show being amazing. That's because God has bestowed that upon you. He's using you guys to. To reach a lot of people that don't go to churches and don't want to go to a church, you know, because of the hypocrisy and everything, or whatever. And he's using that. But if you walk around like Nebuchadnezzar and go, look at what I have made, look at everything I have established, it's all me and David. He didn't bring you down. He's going to bring you down. That's pride. And so, but you, you reacting to a betrayal is. That's not pride. That's just you being hurt, offended. But your. Your job is to not stay there because it'll start eating at you and then it'll start coming out in the form of illnesses through you if you start letting bitterness come in because of what they did. But you told him. You told him, you know, look, this is how, how I feel about this. You stole that from me. That is. That's stealing. And I'm not. You'll never make anything because you're not built like me and you don't have the skill set, and I'm not going to give you anything. And it's going to take something for you, for me to trust you again. There's nothing wrong with that. It's true. Because in the law in the Old Testament, whenever somebody stole from someone else, it wasn't just enough to go, well, sorry about that. Okay, well, that doesn't do anything for, for me, you know, if you stole from me, what they have to do is they have to apologize, they have to give back a hundred percent and then another 20% because of what they did. So, see, God's very fair. God's very fair. So it's a 20% back.
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A
I want you to be very honest with me. I'm going to tell you a quick story about a thing that I did and, and tell me the truth. And I know you will, so. Oh, I had an altercation with. With the. With the character recently. His name is Dustin Nemos. I don't know if you're familiar with him, but not nice.
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D
He.
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A
You know, it's a silly thing. We've had him on the show a lot of times. We stopped inviting him on. It just was kind of the same, you know, episode every time, which is. Whatever. And he then turned on us, even though we had invited him on when a lot of people didn't, and we even invited him to our live event to perform on our stage. And, you know, all these things. He. He started calling us, like, amateurs and. And midwits and everything, which, like, okay, fine, fair.
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Not wrong.
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A
Not wrong. And so, you know, I ignored him a lot. 90% of the interactions, I ignored him. And then one day, he came out of the blue again, and he calls us amateurs. There's, like, some benign post on Twitter. It's really not important. But he comes along and he goes, these guys are amateurs. That's why they're not going to. They don't know the answer to this conspiracy. I'm not even going to defend whether or not we did. And I finally got upset with them, and I started to go, hey, why are you being such a. This word and that word. And he goes, oh, well, you're too afraid to. To name the. The Jews. And I go, we've already done a million episodes on this topic. And. And. But whatever. So this is where the thing that I would love your assessment on. He goes, I don't even want to be on your. Your show. It has no value. You guys are amateurs, and you're nothing compared to me.
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C
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D
Liberty. Liberty, Liberty. Liberty.
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A
And I go, hmm. And I just so happened to look at his. There's, like, a show called. I mean, a website called Listen Notes, and it'll tell you the percentile that your show is in. And I noticed that our show was ranked significantly higher than his, and I. And I just show him these things, and I go, what are you Talking about. Why are you saying this? Our show is literally ranked higher than your show. And I don't know if I'm, like, stepping into the realm of pride yet, but he ignores that, and he calls us this and that. We make a post, and the post is literally. I don't even know. It was a clip from this show. And, Laura, I couldn't tell you what we were talking about. We were talking about, like, sport, drink, and we were talking about, well, whether or not elephants had breasts, like, women and all these crazy things. And then I take that clip and I go, by the way, this show is ranked higher than Dustin Nemos's show because it's so. It's so hilarious to me that, you know, he. He rests his. His. His crown on, like, all the intellectual and the research and all these other things. And I'm like, our show is better than yours. We're talking about elephant tits. Why is that happening? But I'm mocking him. I'm mocking him and I'm wondering, did I cross in that moment? Is that like a crossing over into. Because now I am. I'm using this thing. I'm going, look at our shows. Better than your show. We're talking about goofy things. It's a way of saying you suck. But then I'm also putting it on my Twitter to show potentially thousands of people this. This thing. Is that crossing it or does he deserve that?
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D
It all depends on the motive of your heart. If your mo. If the motive of your heart is not to cause division, to sow division within the body of Christ, to exalt yourself or abase. Another Christian, because he's a Christian, and even though. Even though he. He definitely needs deliverance, or he wouldn't be instigating the kind of things he's instigating with you in the first place. He wouldn't be doing that. He would be. He'd be praying for you guys and he would be praying for you to prosper and For. For. For your show to prosper as much, if not more than his. It says in the Word that we're supposed to think of our brothers and sisters as more important than us and treat them as such and give them the better portion. You know, when. When you've got, you know, like, two nice steaks in front of you, you're supposed to give them the better one. And. And so you see where it's a wrong heart on his end in the first place. And you're like, well, I'm just going to put you in your place because Somebody needs to do it. And I used to be like that. And, boy, I would whack people to pieces with my words and the truth. And the Holy Spirit said. He told me, I could hear him. He said, that is not how I do it. And I said, this was in the beginning for me. And I said, but everything I said was true. And he said. He said, yes, it was true, but your delivery stinks. That's what he told me. Your delivery stinks. And because I would. I would. I was like Robin Hood, you know, I would come to the rescue of anybody that was being beat down by a bully or whatever, verbally, and I'd go, oh, oh, really? Well, okay, let's go over you for a minute. And then I would go, bat, bat, bat, bat, bat, and just start laying out truth after truth after truth until they're nothing but a puddle of tears in the corner, right? And then I'd be like, somebody had to do it. Thank you you so much. I'm pat myself on the back and think that I, you know, I did a good thing, like, you know, for the kingdom of God. I. I set them right, but the motive of my heart was wrong. And. And they didn't. They didn't. A lot of times people act the way they act because of. Of traumas. Like, for. For Dustin. I can definitely tell you that guy has some traumas in his childhood, and that's why he. He acts the way he does. And so instead of berating him, we should be praying for him and for him to break free from. Because he's got spirits that are operating through him, and he. And it's coming out on his show, and. And then when he wants to perk up the numbers or whatever, then he's going to lash out at y' all or, you know, or somebody else to. To get the numbers, you know, kicking back up and tell a sob story about his life or whatever, so that everybody will start seeing and checks in, you know, or whatever. That's how it works. So. So, you know, he. He's in a wrong place. And you don't want to go. You don't want to lower yourself to that. You want to, you know, just say, yeah, brother. You know, like, him. He. He. I was on a show with him, too. And then after that, because I just. Because I went on this guy's show, he trashed me, and. And I took it to the Lord and I said, what do you. You know, should I call him? Should I call him and ask him, dude, like, what's this Up. Why are you doing that? Like, I've never done anything to you. And the Lord said, let me handle it. And. And I did, and I let it go. And I prayed for him and I prayed for him to be set free, you know, and delivered from whatever kind of spirits are operating in him. So. And it's a. I mean, I'm not. I don't want to get, like, get. Have you get down on yourself or whatever, but it's a growth process I have to do. I've learned these things because I do deliverance. And the Lord has dealt with me, you know, several times on different things. Like. Like this one time I was coming back from a. From a. A conference. And as I was headed back home down to South Texas, I was approaching a town called Yokum. And I remember reading that Yokum had a lot of child trafficking in it. And I said, oh, Lord. So, you know, Yocum's 10 minutes ahead. I'm going to pull over into some big parking lot, and I'm going to go to town on these demonic spirits and trafficking spirits and spirits that do this, that, and the other. And I'm going to break their power. I'm going to break them their assignments. And, you know, I'm telling him all the stuff I'm going to do. And I said, if you want me to, if you want me to, I'll do that. And I was geared up, I was fired up because I've just come from that. From that conference, and I had bought a book at the conference, and it was sitting over in my seat. And the Lord said, pull over.
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C
Liberty Mutual customizes your car and home insurance. And now we're customizing this ad for your morning commute to wake you up, which could help your driving. Science says that stimulating the brain increases alertness. So here's a pop quiz. How many months have 28 days. What gets wetter as it dries? What has keys but can't open locks? If you don't want to hear the answers, turn off this Liberty Mutual ad now. 12 months, a towel, piano. Enjoy being fully alert.
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D
And I was like, why? I mean, just talk to me. Like I could. You can talk to me while I'm driving and I'm on a highway. And. And he says it again, pull over. And I'm thinking, is this me thinking this? And I thought, no, because why am I telling myself to pull over? They don't make me sit. And I was like, I just don't understand why you just can't talk to me. And Then he says it definitively the third time, Pull over. Like, I'm not going to say it again. So I was like, okay. So I pull over, I find a business, and they're closed because it's Sunday. Their gate is closed. And I just pull over into the entrance, and I'm sitting there, and I'm like, okay, here I am, you know, I'm. I'm pulled over, and I'm just sitting there like, what did you want to say? And I'm getting bored. So I look over and I grab that book and I open it up, and I'm not kidding you, I open it up to this chapter, and it says, territorial warfare. Never, ever, ever go into another territory that you. Where you don't live, you don't have any skin in the game, you don't pay taxes there, and start spiritual warfare, you will get your butt kicked. I'm paraphrasing, but that's. Yeah. So I've learned things through my walk with the Lord of how to respond and how these things work. Another time, I was walking my street. I live out in the country, and I cross one river, and then there's a creek after that, and. And I live in between. So I'm repenting for the sins that have been committed in my territory, and then taking authority over those spirits, putting them under the blood, putting the sin under the blood and dealing with it, you know, through Christ, and then taking authority over those spirits and rendering them powerless in my territory. And. And I said, I'm gonna go all the way around the mountain, Lord. And he said, don't. He said, stop at the creek. And I was like, why? I already. I got my water bottle. I'm, you know, I'm all geared up. I'm ready to go. I'm locking motor. I've already got my mind. And he said, don't. Like, he. He told me again, kind of stronger. Don't go past the creek. And as I'm approaching it, I'm thinking in my head, I'm just going to keep going, you know, I'm just going to keep on going. And then I heard him, and it was very strong. And it was like I said, don't. And I said, okay, okay, I feel you. Like, I feel it, but why? And he said one word. He said the name of my county. And I didn't realize until he said it that my county line changes at that creek. I have no business going and stirring up because demonic spirits have territories. They, like, you know, it says that we. We are over powers and we're warring with powers and principalities and rulers of darkness, spirit, spiritual wickedness in high places. Well, prince principality spirits are prince spirits over like the Prince of Persia, they have territories. The prince of Greece, those are principality spirits. So they have territories all the way down to your hometown. And, and they, they, you know, work through demonically inspired people to release darkness into regions. That's why you'll see some regions, they've, they've got a liquor store on every corner and a bunch of, you know, poverty and, you know, it's poverty stricken and men's clubs everywhere. And they have that territory. And you know, Christians that are living in that territory are not taking, taking authority over them and binding them. Like I was saying earlier, if you went by a men's club every day, let's say you drove past one every day on your way to work and it's in your territory, you could say I bind the demonic spirits that operate in there. They're not allowed to function in the people. They're not allowed to function in the girls that are dancing. They're not allowed to function in the guys that are coming in to get a lap dance. They're not allowed to function in the owners. They're not allowed to do anything. You can't do anything. And eventually that place will close down because they can't function through the people. They cannot function. So you have authority over the demons. Like in Dustin, he's got spirits and you want to, you want to wage warfare with that and not with him because he's human and he's a son of God.
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A
I told him, you know, I told him that I was like, you know, it probably sounded comedic and punchy, but I told him like, he's got something whispering in his ear. Because there's, in my estimation, there's no reason. There's no reason. We've only ever been kind to him, you know, heard him out a bunch of times, invited him out. The only thing that we did was no long, didn't invite him on a fourth or a fifth time or whatever it was. That's the only thing that we were guilty of. And it's like, I know the thing that makes you go like, you know, hit send on it, like, go, go and go and attack this guy. Instead of like asking a question or engaging in like, you know, some sort of a conversation about the logistics of the topic, it's just like insult him.
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B
And that's kind of, it's kind of why. So, yeah, I insult people a lot. Sometimes not. Sometimes but when it. When it does go too far is when I don't leave them any room. It's like if you're wrestling with your. Your son and you want him to always want to play.
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A
Yeah.
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B
You have to let him win a little bit. Or when you. When you defeat him, you don't defeat him. And slightly, if I'm wrestling with him, I don't hold him down where he can't move an inch, and he tries to move his head, and I put his head down and just show him, like, complete dominance.
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A
Yeah.
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B
We kind. I. A little bit with Albarino. I did that, and I was like, yeah, that's not. Because that's not fun.
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A
That's not.
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B
You're not leaving. The whole point of that. Of when I am doing that as a people just from. For me, is because I'm like, I'm playing with you, and I'm leaving something open.
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A
Yeah.
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B
Even though, like, these words could be hard, but I'm leaving this open. Like, I'm. I'm constantly giving you a choice. Are you going to continue to be gay or are you gonna be better? Because I, like, there's been many people. You see them, they hate me. And then after a while, they go, wait, he's not so bad. And now we're kind of friends.
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A
Well, you know what it is? It's like, we'll walk into here and it'll be like, what's up?
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B
Yep. Yeah. Yeah.
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A
You know what I mean? Like, it's like it.
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B
You start with the. Start with the craziest thing.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And then we work our way back, but with. Yeah, same thing with Dustin. That's what. What happened with him. And I even gave him a chance to, like, a couple months back, where I was like, listen, we're gonna have this conversation. I'm not happy. I don't want to talk to you. We're gonna have the conversation. I'm gonna. And I'm gonna express to you because I felt like you deserved it this last time I let him go on there. And I felt like that's kind of what I was trying. It was funny. But what I'm trying to do is, like. Like, here's you, here's you. Like. Yeah. When you are typing that, like. Like, I can't imagine what's going through your head, because it's crazy. Like, unwarranted, out of nowhere. But show up to this. I'm gonna put you full screen, and you're looking right at yourself, and the chat is making fun of you, but you have to now look at yourself and say, any. Anybody's not capable of it now. So I. I showed him, and it's mean, but I can't change his mind. I. I can only. I can only put this on display. And hopefully you'll. You'll learn. You'll see, you'll be embarrassed, and maybe you'll have to regroup and take inventory. He's.
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D
He.
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B
He wasn't capable of that.
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A
Not yet.
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D
No. No. He. He.
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B
Hopefully.
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D
He probably went back to his show and then talked about, you know, what a douchebag both of y' all are.
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A
He went on his show and declared victory. He was like, look, they didn't. They were too afraid to show up to their own debate. I was like, I was sitting on the sofa with my wife watching a show.
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B
And then the point of that is, like, it's still. I. I blocked him because it was. It would have gotten. Yeah, it would have gotten to the point where it's like, I really don't like you. And then I'm to start to get.
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A
I'm still dealing with it. I'm still watching him post. No, the fact that he's on our show and nobody's there as, like, it's some sort of victory. And I'm just like, People keep asking me. They're like, when are you guys going to do an episode? I'm like, I just don't want to. I don't care about his information. It's just, like, gross behavior. Like, I don't want to talk to you because you're being weird. You're not going to come.
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B
But I think Laura is right. There is something there. And it's like. It's heartbreaking because you could see a person that's stuck.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And I'm like, man, you're stuck, and I don't know how to help you.
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A
But he does this. It's not just us. We're not. We're not special. We're not unique in this. Like, this is just a thing that he does where, like, he's been fighting everybody on the Internet, and it's about his superiority. He's like, I'm the greatest Nephilim expert. Like, that's a weird. That's a weird thing to say.
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D
And then usually if you do that, you're. Usually you're dealing with spirits of insecurity, and it's covered up with all of the I'm the greatest thing, you know, or severe pride. It's one or the other or both. So that's what's really going on. And, you know, you pray for them in that light and bind those spirits from. Or just say, opposing forces or, you know, forces of darkness or whatever, if you don't know which one it is, and. And pray for the Lord to send forth the Word and rescue him because he's. He's in a pit. He's stuck. Like, tops said he's stuck.
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A
It's got to be a shitty place to be.
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D
Yeah, it is. And he's better than that. He's. You know, he does some good research and everything, and. But he's stuck. He is stuck on the Jew thing, and he got stuck in that place of where he's at. And I think he could be even better and greater if he could, you know, get. Get rid of all of the bitterness and the anger. And he's got just black. You know, I. I always just think godly. Does he ever sleep? Oh, my gosh. It just breaks my heart to see, you know, I think he had a heart attack. He's so young and. And so there's some issue. He had a heart attack, like, I don't know, a couple years ago.
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A
Wow.
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D
And, yeah. So, see, it's like, that's stuff that's inside, you know, that needs to.
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A
Yeah, well, that's the thing is our. Our, you know, people that know us, they see these interactions. He's like, calling. He's like, you guys are afraid. I'm like, that's kind of never been our mo. In fact, we're. We're oftentimes too. I. I don't want to say fearless, because it sounds egotistical, but, like, to it.
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D
Y' all are not afraid. Definitely.
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A
We do a lot of stupid things. Say a lot of stupid things that, like, you know, I don't even know if. If all of them have to be said, you know, so. To our own detriment. But I don't know. You know, this is what you're supposed to do, right, Is pray for them. That's. That's somebody who I have forgotten. Whenever I try to do that thing where I get alone with God and I'm like, enemies to pray for. Not that he's my enemy, but I see him as. Yeah, it's just like, people that I. I don't look at them as enemies because I don't think I have enemies, and I don't hate anybody. Praying for your enemies is. Is a weird. Because really, it's people that I. That should be not the first and foremost in my mind to pray for people that I'M like, have animosity with maybe my animosity. I don't know what the word almost said. Animosities. So. So you were saying something before that I want to touch on. And it's not going to these other places where you don't have spiritual authority, going into, like, different counties or different, you know, strongholds where different entities exist, you know, a new battleground, new enemies. What are some things that give you spiritual authority in? Because, I mean, like, I know you kind of said it almost jokingly, but this idea of, like, you don't pay taxes in that county. And it's like, when you said that, I thought back to a time where, like, I had purchased my first home, and I was having all kinds of weird things happen. And I thought, I'm the new homeowner here. Even if these things are left over, even if there's some weird energy here, some door's been opened. This is my home now. Total new ball game. I can take authority over this place. And I was, like, really early in my walk. But I thought, just through the sense of the legal aspect of the spiritual realm, that since I am the new legal owner of this home, I should be able to cast these things out and lay down, you know, my own ground rules, claim the space for Jesus Christ, things like that. And I know it's kind of a silly question, but, like, even the idea of, like, paying taxes, right. Render unto Caesar what is said. Caesar's like, the systems that we have here, God recognizes them, I think, in
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B
many asking, like, what is the proper. What's the proper system of belonging in a place?
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A
Right? Like, what gives you additional authority here? Like, if I am here and I'm paying to be here, paying taxes.
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B
I think sometimes people are in places that they shouldn't be, and they continue to make it fit.
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A
But.
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B
Yeah, what. What do you. What's your perspective on that?
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D
Okay, so whatever in the earth is bound in heaven, and what is loosed in the earth is loose to heaven. Okay, Remember, you're a representative of a different kingdom, and that kingdom is in heaven, and you are the representative here on the earth. So if you have binding agreements, like a house purchase or like, a rental agreement or even the. The studio that you're in, let's say it's in a different zip code. But you and Matt have a binding agreement, then you have skin in the game. You have a vested interest. It is binding. It is a binding document, and. And your authority comes into it. If you rent a hotel room, you can slap your Hand on the wall and say in the name of Jesus, I take authority over this hotel right now because you paid, you paid for, you know, you. It's transactions and it's binding and there's agreements that remember everything to an earthly
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A
court that would hold up in court. Well, your honor, this individual entered my hotel room that I had legally paid for, meaning that it was contractually mine for a period of 24 hours kind of a deal. So if that holds up in a court of law on earth, then it holds up in, in a spiritual court.
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D
That's right. That's exactly right. And everything's judicial. That's what I said before. Everything is judicial. It holds up in court. And he's saying if you've got a binding and people use the scriptures of binding and loosing for demons and you, you can actually do that, Bind demons. That's in the book of Enoch, binding demons. But it's more about binding documents, contracts, covenants, oaths, agreements, vows, allegiances, alliances, leagues, treaties, anything that, that is a binding agreement that gives you. And, and yeah, paying taxes, you're paying taxes. That's binding. They're, they're hitting you with a bill every year. And so you have a vested interest in that territory, that county that you live in, that city that you live in, and to, to some degree the state that you live in. So it's, it's not cool for me to go to Kansas, because I'm not from Kansas, and go stirring up a hornet's nest with a bunch of demons over that territory where I have no vested interest, I have no binding agreements. I have nothing but me and my Billy Badass self that's going to go in there and just stir up a hornet's nest. So no, you can't do that. It's, it's judicial. And just like I was going to go to Yokum, it's in the state of Texas, but it's not my city. And I'm not going to be there when those demons get all stirred up and start wrecking havoc and causing misery for everybody and me because they're going to come after me too. Then I'm not even going to be there to stick around to be praying over that stuff. Come against it. You're going to battle and you're about to go, you know, throw a grenade right in their face. And then you're just going to go run off to your town and be like, okay, you know, just going to go on about my day. Nope, you better watch out. You just threw a Grenade in their face, and they're coming after you. And they have a legal right to. They'll have a legal right.
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B
You just described American foreign policy.
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A
Oh, my God. Yeah, right. We're going to the Middle East. You want to talk about the Prince of Persia or, or, you know, whatever
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B
other principalities had twin towers. If we did. Yeah, like that.
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A
Exactly. We might still have the. The, you know, the twin of Solomon or whatever they were called. I think that that makes a lot of sense. Immediately, I started thinking about, like, the venue that we're going to, you know, sort of pleading the blood of Christ over the venue. Send the angels to make sure that, you know, nothing that is pitted against us can come inside and things of that nature. But the reason that we should be able to do that is I signed a contract, this, mine from this period of time to that period of time. And so within that, I. I have legal rights to it and. And therefore should take legal spiritual authority over it.
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D
That's exactly right. You just nailed it. And then you release again. Every time you pray, you're gonna call forth the promises of God and you're going to shut down the powers of darkness. You're going to render them powerless, and you're going to call in the promises of God that are yes and amen so that. That can come in. And then you persevere. Just. It's in the book of James, and it says, the man, the perfect man, is the man who perseveres in faith so you don't have to, you know. Matter of fact, it also says the man who waivers can expect nothing. Nothing if you waver.
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C
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D
Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. And let me tell you all a story. So my son, whenever he was 18, he asked if a friend could come and live with us. My husband was starting a new job. It's. It's a construction nature, but my husband was like, you know, the kind of like he was the top dog that came out and looked over everything to make sure it was all good. And he would say, thumbs up or thumbs down. And they have to redo it. So he was. He carried some weight on this job. And my son said, can Darius come and live with us so dad could get him on the job and he can have a way in life because his mom's in prison, his dad never claimed him. He's a good kid. He's a good guy. And he's not academic. He's not going to be able to go to college, and he's never going to be nothing, you know, more than a cook. And so can we help him out? So I said, yeah, I talked to my husband. So we let him come. And. And Darius gave his life to. To Jesus. And. And I was teaching them about how this works. And so I said, look, we're going to pray in agreement. We're going to stand in agreement. Pray in agreement that this job is yalls, and we're going to stand on the word, okay? And we're gonna, you know, everything. So they're like, okay, so we pray in agreement, we call that job in, and nothing happens. My husband had talked to the guy. The guy said, yeah, tell him to go up there and, you know, put in the paperwork and. And then I'll get them in. And so they went for the paperwork in. Nothing happens. Weeks go by. We're like, what's going on? This is kind of weird. Okay, we do this again. This goes on for three months. I'm not kidding. We found out later that there was all kind of foul play going on. But this shows you how perseverance works. And. And so I said this about three months into it. I could feel like this opportunity is slipping away. It keeps on. The doors keep closing. It's like, what is going on? I mean, we're praying. We're in agreement. Everything the word says we're persevering, and nothing is manifesting. And I can feel like the doubt is setting in. Doubt. This is never going to happen. So I come into my house and I go into Darius's room, and I said, who's doubting? Who's doubting, you or you? Which one of y'? All? And Caleb says, it's not me. It's not me. That's my son. It is not me. Darius said, it's me. It's me. I. I just feel like this is never going to happen. I said, all right, get out here. Come on. That's a sin. Doubt. I said, the man who wavers in doubt, you can expect nothing. So you beat his ass. So I beat his ass. No, I said, okay, you're gonna repent because you got to fix it now. You've got to repent. The remedy is always the finished one. Work of the cross, right? It's always the blood. So repent. Confess it as a sin. Put it under the blood. Now. Take authority over all demonic assignments. We're breaking those demonic assignments now. My husband had already been told at work, they're not going to hire them. They said, it's too late in the job for inexperienced people to come in, blah, blah, blah. And he wouldn't tell us because he knew we were standing on the word. Do you know they got the job? They did get the job. And so this guy, out of nowhere, he was like, he was going to be the one that was going to be over the two boys. And he said. He wrote my son an email, and he said, hey, they're, you know, upper management is trying to shut this down, but just give me a little time. I'm working on something. And so they got kind of hopeful again. And I was like, that's it, y'.
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A
All.
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D
Hang on to it. Like, hang on to it. Pull it in. Start decreeing. Start claiming it, pulling it. And we're fighting forces of darkness that are trying to prevent this kid from ever having a life, you know, because he has no other chance, right? His mom's crazy and she's in prison. His dad don't care, you know, so. So it's all for him. It's for him. And so they. They were like, okay, okay, tell us what to say. Tell us what to do. So we're standing on it. And the next day they get a call and they say, come on, y'. All. Y' all are ready to come in. And they go out there. This is hundred. This is a big job. It's Bechtel. They've got hundreds and hundreds of workers out there. These two guys, my son and Darius, they were the only two white guys on the entire job. And so there was a racket going on at the. The office where they would get the. The wreck. And they were making people pay for positions, so the whole thing was loaded up with Mexicans, no offense. And top and the whole thing. So. And so are y' all both Hispanic? Y' all aren't.
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A
No, not me. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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B
I'm Puerto Rican.
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A
Hispanic, half. It's like. It's like South American and Irish mostly.
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D
Oh, Irish, Okay. Tribe of Judah. Okay. So anyway, they. They. Yeah, they. They got in there, and it's all these Mexicans and, like, you know, for. For a thousand dollars you could be a foreman, you know, for $500, you got. Yes, they were paying. So. So when my son and his friend was going and filling out the wrecks like they were told they were throwing them in the trash can. They were throwing them in the trash can three times until that guy went up there and said. He threw that paper down. He said, I don't know what the f. Is going on up here, but that better. That better be filled or my. Our heads are going to roll. I mean, he went in and had to rip him a new one, but that's how far this had to go for that prayer to come to pass. But when you know how to persevere, you will see the results. Even though everybody else is saying, nope, ain't gonna happen. Shut it down. Get. Give it up. It ain't. It's because you don't persevere.
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C
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D
Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. God says he'll do anything you want. And now Darius has a Corvette, and he's a welder, and he makes a lot of money, and he's great. He's doing great.
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A
That's awesome. That. That reminds me of the whole Bohemian Grove thing. Like, it wasn't like I had my mind fixed in that way. But when we lost that theater, I did not. I had no fear, no spirit of doubt or anything like that. I walked out of that theater when we lost the first one. Like, I just knew that. Like, oh, number one, this is a fun story. And number two, this is gonna work out. And in under 24 hours, you know, we had another. But I'm. I'm that type of person. Like, I don't get. I think I've told you before, Laura, like, if I get. If I do get sick and, like, let's say my wife asks, like, you know, what's wrong? Are you okay? I go, ah. I'm just. I'm coming out of it. Like, I was. I had something. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter if it just happened that day. I go, I'm coming out of it. I'll never. You'll never catch me saying that. Like, oh, I'm afraid that this is going to happen or that's going to happen. Like, I don't do that at all. And that wasn't even a sort of a. A Christian ideology of mine. It was just like, I don't believe in suffering a thing twice, that's for sure. In other words, if something is going to happen, it's going to happen. And my worrying about it or freaking out about this potential thing that's on the horizon that doesn't even exist in reality yet, that all that's going to do is just make me suffer twice. I actually learned that in a very strange way. I think God sent me a little message. I had. I was going through a real big breakup and I got cheated on. And I found out when we were moving we had just signed a lease and put a down payment on a new apartment. We're packing up the old one and then it just gets broken to be like, hey, I cheated on you. I don't want to do that anymore. I'm leaving you. You know, I'm gonna go be with this other guy. And it just leaves me with this whole apartment of just all this crap everywhere. And, you know, moving is stressful enough, never mind a breakup. And I remember just being like shell shocked, like moving in slow motion through this empty place. She took my cats and. And I ended up going into a closet. There's a closet, real small one. Not like a deep one at all. Like you could just walk in it and stand, you know, one of those, like really not sha. Not. Not deep, very shallow. And I sit in it with my back against the wall and I'm like sobbing, you know, just dealing with everything. And I see written on the wall in a. I would have never seen this because it was next to the door frame. And you would never be in there to look at it and see it. In fact, it had to have been written by somebody who was going through something. You know, like somebody else who was going through something left a message probably for themselves, but it ended up being for somebody else who was going through something. And it just said, come what may, and three words. I don't even know where that's from. I think I looked it up. It's like maybe from some Shakespeare or some crap, I have no idea. But I understood the message. It's like, whatever's going to happen is going to happen. And. And that those three words, like, gave me this unbelievable strength to, like, get myself up and just Go through it like this is life. Whatever's going to happen is going to happen. Most of my sadness in that moment wasn't just because of what had just happened, but was also because of what is going to happen. Where am I going to go from here? I have nobody. I've been left. What about all this stuff? What about this apartment that I just paid for? What about the money? Come what may, Whatever's going to happen is going to happen. You know what I mean? Like that. And, and I don't understand why. I guess in that moment I was just able to see sort of this, this deeper meaning to it. And I kind of understood even as, as a young man, because I was like 22 or 23 when that happened, that life is very much how you react to life.
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D
Life.
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A
And, and a lot of what you're reacting to is that hasn't even happened yet.
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D
Yes.
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A
And that is the thing that you're suffering the most. So if you can mitigate the way you react to the things that haven't happened, that, that cuts your suffering practically in half, if not more. But if you can get the strength, which I do think comes from having faith in God to mitigate how you react to a thing that actually is happening, well, then you can cut out 90% of the suffering and reduce it to the 10 window of when it's actually happening. When it's actually happening to you. The thing that you're actually. The fire that you're actually in that, that reality. If you can reduce all your suffering to just that moment, you're far better off than the vast majority of people because all of us are plagued by the things that haven't happened yet and reacting to the things that probably will never happen. If I'm being perfectly honest, I've learned throughout my life that so many of the things I worried about as a young man never even came to pass. Never even came to pass. It's about silencing that inner. You know, Joe Rogan calls it the inner. But I do think it's these, these demons, these, these spirits that they feed off of the energy that you're putting out when you're in a state of fear, when you're in a state of depression, when you're in a state of anger and anxiety. They are feeding off of that. And it's kind of amazing because if you think about them feeding off of that and you giving that to them for something that's never even going to happen, what a fool we, we can be. And, and, and it's like free money. Free money. We're just giving them free money. Yeah, for a thing that's never going to come to pass. I'd love to get your thoughts on that, but. Oh, I just wanted to tell you where we're going after this because we're getting late in the show and there is one thing. Feel free to comment on that. But the place I want to take this next is how we pray when we're afraid, specifically in a supernatural way. And the reason that I'm asking that is because when I had my experiences and, you know, my experience in the audience does. But I have prayed in desperation and I've. I've begged God to stop these things that were happening. These like, paranormal, you know, demonic things. As I've grown in my walk, I'm now understanding that we should be casting these things out in authority, telling these things to leave in authority. I want to talk about that, but, but feel free to, to take it wherever you want.
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D
Okay, so I was going to say what you were talking about before. Whatever you feel focus on becomes magnified in your life. So if you focus on the problem, you become overwhelmed. It's overwhelming because all you can see is the problem and there are solutions, but you can't see them, so you're overwhelmed. So it's all about focus. The Lord taught me the word focus and he literally showed it to me. And the thing and I, I was focusing on, it was like these weeds in front of water and there was a pipe coming out of them and there was a red dot in the pipe. And I was like, what is that? And, and the more I would focus in and look at it, he. And then he showed me the word focus. And from then on he. I understood he was telling me when you focus on things, that's what becomes magnified to you. So for me, because of the, where I'm at my walk, my focus is solutions. My focus is always the Word. Because I know he's all powerful and, and that our kingdom is the highest kingdom. I already have the solution. I don't care what the problem is. Whatever the problem is, there's a, there's an answer in the Bible that's yes and amen for me. And all I got to do is find it. You can Google it. I mean, you google whenever you have this problem, you know, what do you pray? And you can Google it and, and it'll give you scriptures and you pray, pray that way. But yeah, focus is a major, major point that you're making. And, and when you become overwhelmed like that. It's because your focus is nowhere but that issue, that issue. So you want to grow yourself, you know, to, to where you're not freaking over. There was something else I was going to say about that too, but as far, I'll come back to that if I think of it. But as far as praying, would you say the other one was praying into the supernatural?
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Praying in the sense of when people have a supernatural experience? Because the way that I prayed, like I said, was, was in desperation. And I don't think that I was necessarily wrong. I think that God revealed himself to me in a great way in that moment that I'm grateful for. But I've come to understand as I've grown a little bit, that the way that we should be. It's almost like the way you frame it. Let's say you're having a lot of people that listen to this show, Laura, are experiencing sleep paralysis and demonic encounters. Shadow people, you name it, and it's the way that it's framed. On one hand you have Lord Jesus Christ, please stop. X, Y and Z. And then on the other hand, you have, in the name of Jesus Christ, leave this place, you have no authority here, etc. Etc. And the goal of both of those prayers is the same, but it seems like in everything that I've learned, one of them is, Is much more effective.
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D
Yeah. Okay. So first of all, the very first thing is if the person, whether or not the person is truly a believer, if they have really given their life to Jesus Christ or not, because if you're not a citizen, you don't get the benefits of the kingdom. So you can sit there and tell demonic creatures to stop doing what they're doing all you want, and they're not going to, because they don't have to, because you belong to them. So you have to first of all believe. You know in your heart that you, you know that you, that Jesus Christ is your Lord and savior. Give your life to him and, and, and become a citizen of Heaven. Then if they are doing things to you, it's because they have a legal right to. So you need to find out where. What doors do I have open? So if you have, if you have sleep paralysis, but you just got done watching, you know, horror movies, well, that's an open door. You're, you have an open door through your TV portal and through the gates of your temple. You're the temple. And you have eye gates, ear gates, a nose gate, you know, mouth gate, touch gate. That's your External, your outer court. And then your, your. The gates of your soul are like your conscious and subconscious and unconscious, your will, your emotions, your reasoning, your intellect, your imagination, those things. That's the gates of your soul. And if you're allowing defilement to come into your temple, it's going to shut down your authority, it's going to close those gates to where the kingdom from the spirit cannot flow through the gates into the soul and flow into the gates of the body to bring healing to the soul, healing to the body and beyond. Every one of us have a biofield and it's an energetic field that we carry. And like the new age, people call it an aura, but it's power or it's energy that goes out the top comes back in the bottom. And some peoples are really small and other people's are really large because of the source that they're tapped into. Well, Jesus is the source. And so the more you're reading the Word, the more light and the more life you have in your biofield. And it goes out so far that people are attracted to it like bugs to a light. And they, they come, they want to come to you because they kind of, they want to suck it off of you because they can't get it on their own. They can get it on their own, but they won't. They're too lazy to do it or they don't know how. So they need to go get in the Word and power up, fill their cup, you know, with the Word. Jesus says that Jesus is the light that lights every man. He's the light of men. So it brings light into your body and everything. So you want to power up, you to make yourself strong, strong in the Lord. You need to make your spirit strong. And if flesh and fasting is another thing, fasting is to weaken the flesh so that you can read the Word and strengthen the spirit. You can hear the Lord better. Demons also, they put things in us. They put things in our ears to clog our ears from, in the spirit to keep you from hearing. They put vices on our heads and crank them down to give you headaches. They stick things in us. You can feel pains that move around, snakes on us. They do things like that to us. So you, you want to say, command demonic devices to be removed. You want to break demonic assignments off of you, and then you want to talk to the Holy Spirit and say, holy Spirit, what doors do I have open? And I know people, people that say, well, I don't hear from the Lord like you do. Laura, the reason I hear from the Lord so well is because I, I read the word a lot. And, and the more you read the word, the more you're going, the easier you're going to hear Him. But he says, it says in the word, my sheep hear my voice. Well, are you a sheep? If you're a sheep, then you do too hear his voice. And you can say, and you, you can say, yeah, you know, like, what do I do, Lord? And. Or what did I do or what. What caused this door to be open? You'll hear, you'll think of a memory this quick and like, you'll think of that demonic movie that you watched or. And so all you got to do is repent. You need to repent for whatever it was. And sometimes it's you, sometimes it's your ancestor, you know, something that an ancestor did. So repent for you and your ancestors for whatever the sin is. If you have a problem with porn, you know, you open doors. It's. That's why you're having sexual dreams all the time. You know, if you're, if you're. Have whatever kind of tattoos tattoos are. Sorry, guys, don't get mad at me, but they're alters. They're. They're blood sacrifices. I'm sorry, but that's what they are. They're blood sacrifices. And your body is the altar. And if you, let's say you have a. The Grim Reaper, well, you, you can have a spirit of death come through that. You get a big pretty flower. Girls like flowers. A spirit of seduction can come through that. So you want to just repeat, repent for them, confess it as a sin, put it under the blood of Jesus and ask him to forgive you, wash you clean, and then take authority over that spirit, kick it out. But now you're gone. And, and then enjoy your tattoos, you know, but, but, but anything that came in through them, you need to close those doors and seal them shut with the blood of Jesus. And you want to go supernatural on them. You know, we're supernatural. We are supernatural beings. We're body, soul and spirit, you know, made in his image. And we carry. We. Here's the problem. We don't operate in spiritual things enough. We don't sit and take time to be spiritual and focus on the things of God. So the more you do it, the better you get at it. And, and it's as simple as sitting and picturing Jesus in front of you, pouring light, his light into you. And that light will come in and heal those wounds, heal those soul Wounds, those soul wounds are memorials that are from past events. Just like a graveyard. It's like they're a memorial to a past event that's associated with death. And. And so he heals those soul wounds. He brings light into those areas. And you may see a creature. If you do, you take authority. If you can see it in the spirit, then you have authority over it because they hide. They hide in dark places, but once so much light comes into you, you'll be able to see them in the spirit, and you'll take authority over them and say, you got to go. You're up and out. I'm healed now. I'm healed now. And so, like, just like you were talking about Dustin earlier, where it's gotten you to a place where you're like, cringe. Oh, you know, he just irritates the. Out of me and that place. Okay. That's something that he can go still be doing what he's doing. But you want to fix that part of you because a root of bitterness forming, and so you want to take authority over that. That root of bitterness, but you need to. That part of you to be healed first. So you want to sit and take some. Some time with Jesus. 10 minutes, 15 minutes, and just sit on your couch when you're alone, put on some scriptures or some soft music to where you can focus on the Lord and picture him pouring light into you to bring healing and pouring. Pulling that root of bitterness out of you so that you can love him like you're supposed to. It's hard to love people like that. I know that, but we're capable of it.
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Yeah, that's a. That's a tricky one for me because I don't. I don't necessarily know what that means. I. I know, like, I can get to a place where, like, I definitely don't wish anyone ill. And I. I can definitely get to a place where I don't feel like I've let go of that. But then loving people, like, I see people that do. People that pray with. With people publicly, like, I don't do that. All my prayer is. Is. Is private. I do it alone. People that put hands on. On each other. I've. You know, I was watching this video the other day where this girl was sitting on her knees, knees, and she's surrounded by, like, other, you know, teenagers, early 20s or whatever, and they're all, like, bowing their heads and putting their hands on her, and they're all, like, praying. And it's. It's like, very emotional. And I'm Like, I don't even have that emotional availability dog. Like, I don't have that at all. But I. But I don't. I don't know if it's the same thing. Like, I don't know if I need to get there, because when I. When I tell you I let a thing go, like I let a thing go. It doesn't. It doesn't. I don't have disdain or anything. You know, there's gonna come a time, I even know with Dustin, just because I know the way that I work, I. I'm gonna drop it entirely and it's gonna mean nothing to me, and I'm gonna have no ill will for him and. And all these other things. But, like, what does it mean to. To love a person? I mean, because I don't know, I. I love my son, I love my wife, you know, and. And that's obviously a different love. And I know nobody's calling or maybe they are. I don't know, to have that level of love for people. But, like, I don't even be hugging people. You know what I mean? It's just. It's something that. That, that thing is.
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D
You need to be baptized with fire.
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A
Maybe. But does that mean I go to hug people afterwards? Because I. You know, like, I'm just. So. It's something that I wrestle with.
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D
Yeah.
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A
Often where I'm like, I'm very. I'm very closed off. I'm very nice. Super nice.
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D
Yeah, you're really. You're really nice. But the love of Christ and the love. Like, I love people, I just. I love people. I can hardly even. Like, when people email me questions and stuff. Half the time I become friends with them because I just love people and I'm interested in them. But to have that. That gin. That genuine agape love Jesus had, that. And that's the power of the Holy Spirit and boldness for you to pray. Outwardly, we're like, oh, yeah, I got this. You know, I'm. I'm gonna pray if you want to become a good prayer, because I didn't used to be. And I went before the Lord and I said, lord, I don't know how to pray like those people. And, you know, I don't really know how to articulate it like them. And I heard him plain as day, he said, what do you want? And. And at the time, I was praying for the kids. You know, I used to be on a prayer team for the kids that were being trafficked and stuff. And I said, I want justice. I want justice for these kids. And I want them to be removed from the hands of these wicked people. And. And I. And I want these wicked people to be, you know, taken into custody and. And removed off the streets. And I want these little kids to get healing and, you know, go into the hands of the righteous where they can. Their little hearts can be healed and plain as day. I heard him say, that was perfect. And I was like, oh, my God, I'm making this way too hard. All you gotta just ask yourself, what do you want? And then you speak his will into that, that, that situation, and it's that simple. That's all you gotta. That's. And if you're gonna. If you want to become a good prayer, pray for him to make you a good prayer. And then read a book or get on a prayer team and just tell them, guys, I don't know how to pray. That's why I'm here. And write down scriptures as you're reading the Bible and start incorporating them, you know, one or two a month into your prayers and, like, grant me the pathways of righteousness. Okay? That's a scripture. And granting you help me to walk in the strength of my inheritance. Give me the gift of faith, you know, and incorporate those little bitty things into your prayers, and before you know it, you will be a powerhouse on prayer.
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A
Somebody. Somebody in the chat said this. It's very funny. They said, church, turn to your neighbor and hug them. And I. I have been in church when they do that. I look, I go. I get up and I gotta go to the bathroom, and I'll go to the bathroom. I did the same thing. I'm at the point now where it's like, so I'll. I'll hug a person, no problem. You're not going to sense anything weird from me if I give you a hug. Like, you know, it's not like. And it would. You would have to be an elongated hug before the alarms start going off in my head. Like, all right, this is. But if you want to. If you want to alter, like, instead of a hug, if you opt for a. A stiff high five, I'm about that all day, dude. We can stiff high five, you know, till the sun goes down. But, like, you know, I. I don't know what it is. I don't know what my, you know, my, My. This gonna sound. This is gonna sound so oversharing. I don't think I hugged my mom until I was, like, a man. Like, until I was an adult man. And no, don't put it Big screen when I say, this is over. Sharing. So. So I don't know. Like, don't do that, man. I just, you know, like, I don't know. I don't know. It's a weird. I'm very affectionate. I hug my son all the time. I hug my wife all the time. But, like, just the way that I was raised, like, that's for. That's for like, three people in your life. And then everybody else gets, like. Like, if I'm hugging you, you're getting a lot of backpacks, you know, because this is, like, totally awkward.
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D
Awkward. No, I agree. I agree. The. The touch your touch your neighbor thing in church, that's weird. And. And spirits can transfer, and it's not, you know, it's not my decision. So I don't like that. I don't like that whole, yeah, hug your neighbor thing. I don't like all that stuff.
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A
Don't hug my neighbor. I don't like that. Turn to your neighbor. And so this is where. This is where you and I probably deviate then, Laura, because they go, turn to your neighbor and. And say, I love you. I will only ever look at my wife. I will only ever look at my wife. I don't turn against the people and they look at. And when I hear it, well, because
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B
it would be a lie.
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A
I wouldn't want to lie to you. And it's not that I don't love you. I just don't know what it's like.
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B
I don't really know you.
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A
What is love like? I don't know what. What it is. It's a confusing thing.
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B
No, I know what it is. I love my wife. But, like, you, if I tell you that, it's like, oh, I don't even know you don't even know what I mean by that.
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A
I can barely say I'm fond of you. I want church. Turn to your neighbor and say, I don't know you.
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B
I don't know you. Like, I don't really know you.
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A
You seem all right. Turn to your neighbor and compliment their outfit. And I could do that. I go, hey, man, nice shoes. But I can't. I can't just turn to you and say, it just doesn't work out. It doesn't work out.
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D
So that seems programy to me. Like, that's like a programming thing, too. I don't like it. I don't like it either. I don't need to be told, you know, I don't think that I would
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A
like to work on. Because people listen to this show, and they're haunting me in the, in the, in the chat right now. They're like,
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B
very fun.
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D
They're gonna. They're all gonna hug you, which is fine.
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A
It's like, I'm not saying don't, but I, I don't. I'm grateful for the, The. The value that people find in this show, and I'm grateful that anybody wants to hug me. And I. And I want to figure that out. Like, there's got to be a way to, like, lean into that gratitude and be like, why not? But let me tell you something. I see the people that do a lot of hugging, and they're. They all look like Russell Brand or something. Like, they're all like that. Like, Russell Brand, he'll give you a hug and he'll. He'll. He'll do breathing exercises. You know what I mean? Like, he'll hug you in his tighty whes. I just had.
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B
I just had disagreements with Christians online again.
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A
Again?
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B
Yeah, just some of the people and, And I'm there. Some of the people that I am the most harsh on because I'm like, why are you such a coward? But at the end of the disagreement, it's always like, they, they insult you. And then they go, you're my brother. And I'm like, just insulted me. And I read that. I understand what you're saying, so I insult you back. And then they go, I'm gonna pray for you. And I go, absolutely not.
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A
It's crazy how you could turn that into an insult. Sounds like an insult.
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D
And they're patronizing. They're patronizing. I'm gonna.
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B
Yeah, also if you're gonna. It's like, not. Also not understanding, like, the spiritual realm. I don't know you at all. I don't want. I mean, you know, I. I guess people could pray for me, but somebody like that. Is that saying that I'm directly going to pray for you? I'm like, I don't know your intention.
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A
I don't know.
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B
I don't even know who you're praying to. The. The entire impotence of this argument is that you don't understand. Well, this argument here, you don't understand parts of the Bible that are kind of important. You're not like, your, Your discernment is lacking here. And then you're going to pray for me. I reject. And they go, well, that's not Christ. Like. And I was like, I don't. I just don't want that on me, man. Maybe I'm missing a blessing but don't. I'd rather not. I'll be okay. Somebody else could pray for me, chat, pray for me.
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D
But people are very dynamic and they have, they, they do a lot of manipulation. People can do a lot of manipulate, manipulation and they don't even realize they're doing it. So they're bait. They're baiting you in the first place and then they're patronizing you in the second place and then they're acting like it's you who needs the help. So that's, that's all twisted. That to me is a Leviathan spirit. And when I, you know, whenever I, I get people like that too. And, and I just, you know, tell them I bless you and I pray for you and, you know, it's okay, you know, if we don't see eye to eye on this or whatever and go on and, you know, have your, your good day or whatever. But, but yeah, you're right. I mean, it's. You can see through the little game that's being played and you don't have to buy into that and be like, oh, God, I gotta give him a hug now, or I'm not being a good brother in Christ. They wouldn't be coming at you in the first place if they were a good brother in Christ. They wouldn't be throwing stuff out there in the first place. That makes you kind of go, what? You know, so that's on them.
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B
It's so disgusting, you know, because it's just like, really makes you doubt, like, what are we doing here? What are people, what are people claiming? What kind of game is being played? Am I the only one that's not playing this game? I'm just kind of being a human being with you guys. Yeah, I'm just being honest with you. And it's just like constant games back and forth. And I was like, I don't think that this is what God intended here,
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D
but you're helping people too. There, there's always going to be those. Oh, and this is what the other thing was that I was going to say. When someone is irking the crap out of you, or even if it's your spouse, don't go to the Lord and say, God, please fix her, she is driving me freaking crazy. Or please fix these people. Tell. Ask him to give you the grace. Because grace is a power to make up the difference of what you don't have. Give me the grace to, to deal with her in love and give me your perspective and your heart for that person so that, like, for Dustin you would want to pray. Give me God. Give me your heart for him. Because I don't have our heart for him. He pissed me off. He screwed me over. He slandered me. He threw our. Our job under the bus. He did all these things. And so I don't have a heart for him, but I. I know I need one. So I'm asking you to give me your heart and your perspective, to love him. And he will. He's done it for me before. And I prayed for people, genuinely prayed for them after he did that, people that I couldn't stand. So raise your stuff. Pray for you, and pray for the spirits that you need to operate at a higher level and let them be where they are. They'll come up at some point.
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A
It's great when God puts that on you to right. God gives us a spirit of peace and of sound mind. And like, I've experienced that when I've let a thing go or I haven't let a thing bother me anymore. And it is. It's. It's. It's wonderful. Sometimes it's almost wonderful. In contrast of the tension that it's created previously. You know, you could really feel it when you let it go. But I agree with that. It's like I never. I don't think I do that either, where it's like, I pray for them to. Because I don't. A lot of the times, if I'm even proud, it's like I don't even know that I'm right necessarily. I just know that there's a contention. And so, you know, let it be. Let it be put to bed. But before we. We get. I want to let everybody know that you're going to be at Bohemian Grove. And. And Laura Baker has expressed that she. She likes hugs. So whatever hugs you intended for me, she'll. She'll take them. You are coming, right? It's going to be August 7th and 8th, and I've been telling people, without your permission, that we've very much been wanting you to be here on the VIP day where we're going to do a Bible study. And it's going to be with us. It's going to be with Matt Hepner. It's going to be with Ed Mabry. And I've been saying that I want Laura Baker to be there as well. So I'm hoping. Is that a. Is that. Are you going to be into that?
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D
Totally, totally, totally. If it's a Bible study, sign me up. I'm all there. Yeah.
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A
That's excellent. And then, of course, you'll be there the next day, and that's going to be all kinds of madness and mayhem. But I'm really happy to have you for the VIP day. And. And, you know, everybody can hug you there.
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B
It's going to be a packed house. It's going to be.
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A
It is going to be packed.
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D
You can just send everyone to me that wants. Wants to give you a hug. David, that's.
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A
I'm gonna wear a T shirt. Hug Laura Baker. Not me. Awesome. Awesome. Well, I'm looking forward to finally getting to see you in person. You've been a part of this show's development for so long. This is going to be a long time coming. But before we get out of here, Laura, let's remind everybody where they can find your work, okay?
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D
Cleansing the bloodline dot com. And my books are on Amazon and my telegram channel is Cleansing the Bloodline.
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A
Awesome, awesome, awesome. Thank you so much for joining us. I'm glad that we were finally able to get this done. Last time was a big pain in the butt with the tech issues, but. But we. We did it.
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D
Thank you guys for having me on. I just love you guys. I love both of y'. All. I love the group, the. You know, I'm on your patreon, too, and so I get to see the comments that they say about me and interact with some of the folks.
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A
That's right, guys. Yeah. You guys watching?
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D
I'm watching you. I'm watching you. That's right. It's like I did my kid, right, people out in Jesus name.
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A
That's right. That's right.
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B
Thanks for coming on again and we'll. We'll see you pretty soon. Until next time, guys. Don't forget to obey, submit and comply. We'll see you later.
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D
It again the end is written in
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the book in the pages they forget.
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A
When the last trumpet sound in the heaven.