Nephilim Death Squad – "Kingdom Against Kingdom" w/ Laura Baker

Podcast: TopLobsta Productions
Episode Date: December 15, 2025
Hosts: David (TopLobsta) & Matt (Raven)
Guest: Laura Baker
Theme: Unmasking the spiritual war between kingdoms—exploring how the systems of this world contrast with the Kingdom of God, generational iniquity, spiritual warfare, the nature of faith, and living distinctly as believers in the end times.

Episode Overview

This rich, free-flowing conversation brings back Laura Baker, author of Kingdom Against Kingdom, to shed light on the stark divide between the “kingdoms of this world” (under Satan’s dominion) and the Kingdom of the Living God. Drawing from biblical reference, personal experience, and cultural critique, the episode dives into spiritual warfare, the true nature of church, the counterfeit within modern Christianity, generational curses, discerning the times, and being steadfast in faith amid a spiritually saturated and deceptive culture.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Introduction and Laura’s New Book

• [04:10] Laura introduces her new book Kingdom Against Kingdom, focused on helping Christians discern the boundaries between the world’s systems (under Satan) and the Kingdom of God.

• The book includes chapters on topics such as Esau, generational iniquity, and how Christians unwittingly participate in worldly kingdoms.

  Laura Baker [05:36]:
  "The overall gist of the book is to make the distinction between the kingdoms of this world, which are run by Satan, and the kingdom of the living God ... we are neck-deep entrenched in the kingdoms of this world and we do not even realize it."

2. Faith, Miracles, and Where We Place Our Trust

• [07:30] Laura contrasts Western reliance on institutions (medical, educational, etc.) with faith in God, noting miracles are more frequent where people have no "Plan B."

• Discussion expands to placebo effect as secular evidence for the power of belief.

  Laura Baker [12:14]:
  "Where you're putting your faith matters. Like, they see miracles a whole lot more in Africa ... They've got Jesus or the witch doctor. That's what they've got."

• [12:14–16:20] Explores how what we speak over ourselves—words of life or death—sways our reality; importance of faith as substance, beyond mere hope.

• Parable of the seed as analogy: "Incubate" the Word in your heart; adversarial forces (demonic “birds”) try to steal it; endurance is key.

  Laura Baker [14:30]:
  "Faith is 1000% sure ... That's how sure you have to be when you receive ... when you're believing it, only believe true faith."

3. Spiritual Influence, Words, and Mental Health

• [16:20] David notes the link between spiritual voices, negative self-talk, and the experience of those with schizophrenia—spirits attempting to gain agreement and foothold.

• Consent, spoken agreement, and "petitions" from the enemy are recurring themes.

  David [16:20]:
  "There is a thing that is whispering [negativity] to you ... if you come into agreement with that and then you start to verbalize it ... it becomes your reality."

4. Purpose, Ministry, and Sowing Seeds

• [19:10] Discussion on using platforms (“show as ministry”) to plant seeds for the Kingdom; main goal is to lead even one person closer to God.

• Laura affirms the show is a ministry in God’s eyes, recounts how God told her to “sew into” their work.

  Laura Baker [19:42]:
  "Y'all called it a show, but it is a ministry ... the Lord loves what you guys are doing ... He said, sow into that."

5. The Problem with Modern Church and Deliverance

• [24:37] Laura critiques most churches for failing to address demons/deliverance, keeping believers in spiritual infancy.

• Many outgrow church teaching after a couple of years of daily Bible study.

• Stories about pastors evading deeper spiritual realities (deliverance, demonic influence).

  Laura Baker [25:34]:
  "The majority of churches, they do not touch on deliverance. Therefore, they do not acknowledge demons ... and what is the problem in the church? Demons."

6. Truth-Seeking, Discernment, and “Breadcrumbs”

• [29:00] Hosts reflect on conspiracy as ultimately a pursuit of truth—and thus a pursuit of God, if Christ is truth.

• Epiphany moments as revelation; the need to “search out” God’s concealed truths.

  David [29:00]: "What I've been calling conspiracy for all these years is really the pursuit of the truth. And if Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the life, then it is the pursuit of God ultimately, right?"

7. Laura’s Personal Deliverance & Generational Curses

• [32:03] Laura shares a dramatic personal deliverance story—seeing a demonic spirit of rebellion/witchcraft shaped by generational tendencies and personal occult dabbling.

• Fasted, confessed, and was delivered; explains demons hide in the soul’s wounds.

• Generational iniquity: traced behaviors (e.g., seeking fortune-tellers) to her mother and further back.

  Laura Baker [43:14]:
  "He was a king spirit. The Lord had already shown me that. And it was the spirit of rebellion ... it was in my bloodline, it wasn't just me."

8. Saturation of Occult and Babylon Mystery Religion

• [45:21] Cultural critique: occult, pagan, and Babylonian symbols and practices pervade society, even unknowingly (media, food, business logos, etc.).

• [47:32] Freemasonry, Kabbalah, and other stealth systems are everywhere; their symbols reinforce spiritual strongholds.

  Laura Baker [47:32]:
  "It's crazy. It's almost unfair ... The symbols are everywhere. It's saturated in every aspect of life ... only by the spirit of God [can you discern it]."

9. Navigating Deceptive Christian Culture

• [53:39] American “open” society creates not just religious liberty but proliferation of counterfeits and pseudo-Christs.

• Dream discussion: visions of imposter Christ; importance of spiritual discernment from a young age.

  David [53:40]:
  "But when things are liberal and wide open ... well, which Christ? And that gets really slippery."

• Hosts repeatedly stress discernment: "counterfeit Christianity" and a “churchianity” that doesn’t actually lead to Christ.

• [62:19] Laura warns of end-time deception: a counterfeit Christianity will be embraced out of fear/antipathy to other threats.

10. On True Christian Identity and Authority

• [64:48] Laura on necessity of personal confession and active membership “citizenship” in God’s Kingdom (vs. inherited/cultural Christianity).

• Difference between knowing about Jesus and actually being in covenant with Him.

• Children need to be born again for true spiritual protection.

  Laura Baker [64:50]: "They've never, ever claimed Jesus Christ. They've never become a citizen of our kingdom ... that would be like me asking Russia to come help me when I'm a citizen of another nation."

11. Everyday Objects, Spiritual “Doorways,” and Household Authority

• [69:57] Discussion on children’s objects (stuffed animals, totems) as potential spiritual doorways if over-invested in or originating from spiritually compromised sources (e.g., false-god-worshiping cultures).

• Practical advice: speak blessing and authority over secondhand or foreign-made items; break any curses or attachments.

  Laura Baker [71:43]:
  "If you have a discernment about it, it's coming from your spirit ... lay your hand on that thing and say, I take authority ... I break all demonic or unholy spiritual attachment."

12. Islam, Judaism, Prophetic Timelines, and End-Time Imagery

• [75:22, 79:20] Sharp warnings about growing influence of Islam and Judaism (vis-à-vis Noahide laws) in America; prophecies regarding the “sword” and the “guillotine” as agents of persecution.

• Cities and even states being spiritually influenced by Muslim/Hindu presence—statues, mosques, and overt symbolism.

  Laura Baker [80:56]: "When you see words or statues or things being raised up in a country, that means the literally those things are raising up in our country ... They're building this place called Epic City."

13. Harvest, Judgment, and Remnant Theology

• [81:49] Laura explains biblical harvest imagery: God’s angels wielding a sickle (judgment) to bring in souls at the end of the age.
• Anticipates a dual scenario: the antichrist persecuting saints, but also the remnant walking in unprecedented spiritual power (e.g., the 144,000).

14. Christian Nationalism, Spiritual Urgency, and Counterfeit Revivals

• [91:20] Renewed sense of urgency as people flood toward faith—many to a veneer/counterfeit but some genuinely seeking.
• Discussion on whether Christian “revivals,” nationalist movements, or podcasts like theirs are a true move or potential snares.

15. Practical Faith, Survival, and Desperation in Hard Times

• [102:43] Warning: When expedients and comforts are removed (food, tech, etc.), people ungrounded in faith will turn to occult, paganism, and self-serving “magic.”
• Stories about women/children turning to spirits (witchcraft, fortune-telling) in desperation.

16. Practical Ministry, Giving Back, and Avoiding Corruption

• [108:46] Hosts plan to start a food pantry, discuss tension between ministry as "corrupted system" vs. true service.
• Laura: there are both corrupt and good ministries; key is heart and intent.

17. Body, Soul, and Spirit—A Three-Part Being (Theological Overview)

• [118:31] Laura explains the crucial distinctions (see also her books):

  • Spirit: The true you; designed for God’s Word and relationship, ought to become dominant (“sons of God”).
  • Soul: Mind, will, emotions; wounded in trauma, carries generational curses/markers.
  • Body: Flesh; carnality, where demons dwell; falls away at death.

  Laura Baker [118:31]:
  "You are a spirit on a very short human journey ... your soul is your mind, will, and emotions ... The spirit always agrees with the word ... you want your spirit to become the biggest part of you."

• Strong spirit dominates flesh and soul, making obedience and discernment natural.

18. Practical “How-To’s” for Spiritual Victory

• How to feed the spirit: ingest the Bible, worship, prayer, fasting.
• Authority in the household: head of house should actively bless, break curses from items, protect family spiritually.

19. Notable Memorable Moments & Quotes

• Laura’s deliverance experience: “The freaky thing that happened to me was while I’m laying in this bed, I heard like wind go in my mouth … it was physically twisting up and down like a satanic demonic movie … And this foul, evil sound came out of my mouth that was not my vocal cords.” — [38:39]
• Matt and David on passing down faith: “We’re just gardeners, dude. Planting a seed. That’s it.” — [19:35]
• Laura: “You are a spirit on a very short human journey" — [118:31]
• David on American Christianity: “This country was founded on Masonic values, not Christian values… There is a big Christian influence in the culture but that’s not what built DC.” — [99:16]

Timestamps of Key Segments

• [04:10] – Laura introduces her new book
• [07:30] – Placing faith in worldly systems vs. God
• [12:14] – The power of faith and belief
• [16:20] – Spiritual voices, mental health, and consent
• [19:10] – Show as ministry and sowing seeds
• [24:37] – Modern church’s blindness to deliverance
• [29:00] – Conspiracy as pursuit of truth/God
• [32:03] – Laura’s deliverance & generational iniquity
• [43:14] – Generational curses
• [47:32] – Ubiquity of occult symbols/culture
• [53:39] – Counterfeit Christianity in a “free” society
• [69:57] – Children’s objects as spiritual doorways
• [75:22] – Islam, Judaism, and end-time persecution
• [81:49] – Sickle, harvest, and prophetic timelines
• [91:20] – Spiritual urgency and Christian nationalism
• [102:43] – Paganism and occultism rising in crisis
• [108:46] – Food pantry/ministry plans
• [118:31] – Distinction: body, soul, spirit

Tone and Style

• Authentic, witty banter among hosts, blending sharp biblical critique with humor and honesty about their own spiritual journeys.
• Laura speaks with candor and pastoral directness, frequently referencing scripture and her personal walk. Her tone is compassionate but uncompromising, especially regarding deception in the church and need for spiritual discernment.

Recommended Actions & Closing Resources

• Read Laura Baker’s books: (esp. Kingdom Against Kingdom) at cleansingthebloodline.com or Amazon.
• Join her Telegram Channel: “Cleansing the Bloodline” for interviews, videos, and teaching.
• Review her work: Both the books and her podcast appearances for wider impact.
• Podcast listeners: Pray for discernment, deepen personal study, actively pursue the Holy Spirit!
• Look out for upcoming ministry/food bank initiative by the Nephilim Death Squad team.

Summary

This episode is a robust, energetic spiritual check-up for Christians living in a world “neck-deep” in antichrist systems. Laura Baker calls for radical discernment, deeper commitment to biblical faith, and understanding of spiritual realities—especially in a time where imitation Christianity abounds and global culture is awash in occultism and idolatry. With practical advice, strong warnings, and a mixture of levity and prophetic edge, the conversation is both an exposé and an exhortation to “come out of her”—come out of the ways of the world, and let faith, prayer, and living relationship with Christ be the defining mark of your life.