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Kingdom Against Kingdom w/ Laura Baker
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In this powerful episode of Nephilim Death Squad, we’re joined once again by Laura Baker, author of Cleansing the Bloodline and Kingdom Against Kingdom, for one of the deepest conversations we’ve ever had on spiritual warfare, generational iniquity,...
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Laura Baker
What do you think makes the perfect snack?
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David (Host)
Hmm, it's gotta be when I'm really craving it and it's convenient.
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Laura Baker
Could you be more specific?
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David (Host)
When it's cravinient.
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Laura Baker
Okay.
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David (Host)
Like a freshly baked cookie made with real butter available right down the street.
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At a.m. p.m. Or a savory breakfast.
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Laura Baker
Sandwich I can grab in just a.
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David (Host)
Second at a.m. pM.
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Laura Baker
I'm seeing a pattern here.
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David (Host)
Well, yeah, we're talking about what I.
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Laura Baker
Crave which is anything from AM pm.
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David (Host)
What more could you want?
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David (Host)
Amazing.
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Too much good stuff.
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Laura Baker
Hey, this is Sarah. Look, I'm standing out front of a.m. p.m. Right now and well, you're sweet and all, but I found something more fulfilling, even kind of cheesy. But I like it. Sure, you met some of my dietary needs, but they've just got it all, so. Farewell oatmeal. So long, you strange soggy.
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Matt (Co-host)
Top Lobster Productions.
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Laura Baker
In the shadows of the ancient ones. They never went away. They're still here today.
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David (Host)
Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim.
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Matt (Co-host)
I think we're back. I'd say that we're back.
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David (Host)
I'd say we're back. Back. That was a great intro, dude. I'm so happy about that. Everybody knows we lost our intro for a while. Shout out to Dallas Spitfire for the banger of a song.
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Matt (Co-host)
Got it. We have to credit him in the. In the intro.
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David (Host)
We do. And then you and Laney for the. For the labor on the video. Man, that really came together. That was a banger. Before we get into today's guest who by the way had a. Had a. A little sneak appearance there in. Yeah, yeah.
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Matt (Co-host)
We put people that formed, I think formed the show in a certain way. I. Yeah, I called you yesterday I was like, who should. Who could we have? That really formed the show.
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David (Host)
Yeah. And when I said their name, you were like, yes, absolute. Absolutely.
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Matt (Co-host)
We're probably missing a couple still, but.
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David (Host)
We are still missing some homies. But look, guys. Patreon.com forward/nephilim death Squad. That's where you want to go if you want to support us. A lot of perks there. Early access to episodes. You get to engage in the live chat, which is active right now. We're no longer doing our half an hour previews. You also get discount codes off merchandise from TopLobs.com as well as early dibs to tickets on Bohemian Grove or to Bohemian Grove. And we've even invited our guests already before we started the show here to Bohemian Grove. So that's very cool. And there you go. There's some shirts that you can go pick up. Wait, scroll down now because I want to see real quick. Let's go to the. What do you want to do? Let's do the. I'm not doing this. I really like. I'm a big fan of that one. Has that been moving?
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Matt (Co-host)
A couple people have brought that. I'm very excited to see if they come to the shop with it.
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David (Host)
That's awesome.
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Matt (Co-host)
Without further ado.
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David (Host)
Yes, please. Joining us once again, we're going to talk about her. Her new book today. And. And I can't wait to get her reaction because I know she saw herself in the intro. There is Laura Baker. Laura, thank you for joining us. Before we get into everything, let's talk about where people can find your work and where they can support you.
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Laura Baker
Okay. I'm just blown away. I didn't know I was in the intro. So thank y' all for my. My appearance in the intro. That was super cool. Awesome, awesome intro. Okay. People can find me at cleansing the bloodline.com. my books are on Amazon or you can go. They're a little bit cheaper. There you go. They're a little bit cheaper for the ebooks on my website. They can find them there or just go to Amazon or Telegram. I have on Telegram, I have a channel called Cleansing the Bloodline, where I post all the videos that I make and the interviews like I do with you guys on the Telegram channel. There's the new book right there.
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David (Host)
We have the old book.
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Matt (Co-host)
I got the old book. Yes, there it is. I have all three. I think you have three other old books. But they're in my house. They're not here.
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David (Host)
Well, we have Roots of Iniquity here. We have a little Piece of iniquity. We have one hanging out here. You know, your work is definitely work that I believe in. You helped me with some personal issues before, and I think that's probably also what got you in here. We have a. How do I explain this? I like to think we have a friendship with Laura Baker. It's much more than a one way friendship. Maybe a one way, one way friendship. I don't know how she feels about us, but I consider Laura a friend and she's helped me.
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Laura Baker
I love y'.
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David (Host)
All. We. We love you. And. And that's why you're gonna be at Bohemian Grove. What's. What's going on with this, this new book?
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Laura Baker
Okay, so the new book is called Kingdom Against Kingdom. And it's. It's got all kind of good stuff, extra stuff in it. Like, you know, Esau, I hated. I go a whole chapter on Esau and, and what was really going on with Esau and why did God really hate him? Because he really did. And what. And there's more to Esau. There's a whole lot more to that. But the overall gist of the book is to make the distinction between the kingdoms of this world, which are run by Satan, and the kingdom of the living God. So if you are a Christian, you're supposed to be following your kingdom and the ways of your kingdom. But this book is to show people, no, we are neck deep entrenched in the kingdoms of this world and we do not even realize it. So it separates a lot of that for you to. To put it right up next to each other. Us, them, us, them. And making that distinction over and over throughout the entire book to help a Christian grasp. Okay, I see areas now of my life that I need to rethink. And that's what it's intended to do to get people to think and come out of. Just like Jesus said, come out of her, my people. And if we don't know that we're in a lot of these things, we don't know to what to come out of. Right? But they are the systems of the world. Because when Jesus when. When the devil took Jesus up to the highest pinnacle, he said, look at all of the kingdoms of the world. They were given to me, and I can give them to whoever I want. Just bow before me and I'll put you in charge. And Jesus tells him to take a hike. Well, Jesus doesn't argue with him. He doesn't say, no, you're not running the kingdoms of the world because Satan is running the kingdoms of the world. It tells you that in 2nd Corinthians 4, 4, John 14:30, John 16:11, a lot of places that the devil is the God of this world. He's running it. So the systems of this world are set up under him. And that explains why there is so much corruption at the top level of everything that we're in. And it doesn't matter if it's in education, if it's in the entertainment industry, politics, media, medical system, you name it. All this evil corruption and lies and things that we're not supposed to be trusting in, believing in, following, participating in. We're not supposed to be. But if we have our faith, let's say if our faith is in what doctors tell us at, you know, at the medical system, then how do you have your faith in what God says and the word. Because it says in second Peter. You see what I'm saying? You have to. Where you put your faith matters. It absolutely matters. Like they see miracles a whole lot more in Africa. Places where they don't have insurance, they don't have a big medical center, they don't have a backup plan. They've got Jesus or the witch doctor. That's what they've got. So they have 100%.
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Laura Baker
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David (Host)
Is that guy with the binoculars watching us.
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Laura Baker
Cut the camera.
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Laura Baker
Excludes Massachusetts faith in the word of God. That's going to heal them. When someone prays for them and they see it, they see those healings and they see people raised from the dead. In America we don't because we've got all kind of backup plans, you see. And so where you're putting your faith matters. That make sense?
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David (Host)
That's an interesting topic. It's actually something that I've been thinking about heavily lately in regards to the medical industry, our faith in it and how we have this tendency, the vernacular in America is almost set up in such a way where you're constantly speaking these things over yourself and then you believe them. Right? Like, I don't know, like, like something as innocuous seeming as saying, like, I just feel dead today, or you know, like these kind of euphemisms that we use constantly. You combine that with this epidemic of self diagnosis that takes place in America, everybody is self diagnosing. You go online and you look up your death sentence and then you go around and you espouse it. I think I have this obscure thing.
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Matt (Co-host)
It's always cancer.
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David (Host)
It's always cancer. Cancer of the ass. It's gonna take you out very soon. And so we have this thing where we're just constantly speaking death over ourselves. And that sounds like a fantastic thing to say. Well, you're speaking death over yourself. You're, you're cursing yourself, you're doing this. And it's like that people kind of recoil at that. But I do think, and, and I would love to explore this more, but on the, on the base scientific level that I think a lot of people can get down with is if you believe in the placebo effect, which is something that, you know, doctors and scientists are pretty certain exists, it's this phenomenon where you can believe that a medication you're taking is healing you, when in fact you've been duped and given a sugar pill, but you do then still experience this healing. And so that speaks to our, the strength in our belief when we believe in things. So you're talking about how people in Africa are either going to 100 believe in the word of the Lord or they're going to go to the witch doctor. And it's that belief that is what is, is facilitating that miraculous healing. Right? You believe that this is going to take place and so you experience this healing. Whereas, yeah, in America, we have been really trained to put all of our faith in a system that constantly speaks to death over us.
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Laura Baker
That's right. That's exactly right. And if you think about it, Jesus is going to go, he's going to go raise a girl from the dead. And he, as he goes in, he says, she's only sleeping and they're laughing at him. They're laughing at him. She's dead. You know, you're an idiot. And he says, only believe. That's what he says, only believe. And then he goes and Raises the girl from. From the dead. So, yeah, you're absolutely right, Corbeau. It has a large part on doing. Has a large part to do with what we believe. And. And it tells you. And I think it's in Second Peter one. I think it says we can partake of our divine nature through the precious promises. So we have the promises of God. They're in the Bible. But we have to come into agreement with what heaven says, with what the word says. That's called faith. But it needs to be 100%. A lot of people go, oh, yeah, yeah, sure. You know, I have faith, I have faith. And what they don't, what they actually have is hope. So you go, well, let. Let us pray over you. And they go, well, yeah, I've got a. My knee is messed up and I've got a surgery plan next Wednesday, but y' all go ahead and pray over me and let's see if it works. Okay? That's not faith. Faith is 1000% sure that the. When you speak a scripture, that. That scripture is yours. You're so sure. It's like if you're going to jump in a pool, you're absolutely positive you're going to get wet, right? There's no question about it. I'm going to get wet if I get in the pool. That's how sure you have to be when you receive, when you. When you're looking at a scripture and you're believing it, only believe true faith because it says faith is the substance of things hoped for it Gen. We generate a substance from our bodies, from our spirit. We generate a substance that comes out of us. And when that those words are spoken, that comes in to manifestation. So I think it's in Mark and there's a. Jesus is explaining what the kingdom is like, and he says, a man plants a seed in the ground, okay? And we already know from the previous parables what the seed represents and what the ground represents. The seed is the word. The ground is a man's heart. He says, the man goes to sleep and he doesn't know how it. He goes to sleep and he wakes up. He goes to sleep and he wakes up, and he doesn't know how it works, but that seed sprouts. And there's a sprout and it says, and then there's the stalk, and then there's an ear, and then the corn in the ear. In other words, it's a process. That's how it works. So when you put the word, whatever scripture you're prom. You Know the promise that God has for you. Like, by his stripes, I'm healed. So let's say you're sick, you know, or you have a disease or a disorder, and you're going to put that word the opposite. You're going to agree with heaven, by his stripes, I'm healed. You're incubating it in your spirit. It's incubating in there. And you go to sleep, and you wake up, and you go to sleep and you wake up and you keep standing on that scripture. Now you'll have birds, the fowls of the air that will come and try to pluck that seed away. The birds represent in the Bible many, many, many times demons. So demons will come and put stuff in your ear. You know, you might as well give up on this. It ain't gonna work. You think it's your thoughts. They speak in the first person, but that's them. And you're supposed to beat them away by casting down vain imaginations. Yeah, you got to beat the birds away. You got to protect that seed. You got to incubate it until it grows. And it's a process. Just like it takes 70 to 100 days for the corn to be there, for the fruit to be there. It may take 60, 70, 80 days for Bam. For your manifestation to take place, but it will if you will hold on to the promise. That is how the kingdom works. And people don't get that because they don't teach it in churches.
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David (Host)
That's huge. There's a lot of people that need to hear that. I think that's something that everybody struggles with as a conversation I was just having the other day where it's like, you know, if. If something is happening to you and. And it just seems to be endless, right? You might say a thing where you go out loud, you'll go, I just feel like this is just gonna keep getting worse or I feel like this isn't going to get better or whatever. And it's like there is a thing that is whispering that to you, and it is external to you. And if you come into agreement with that and then you start to use your own word to. To verbalize that and put that out into the world, then this thing starts to become solidified and it becomes your reality. But that very same thing that's whispering that to you, it's the same thing that schizophrenics get where it's like, you're worthless, you're useless. Nobody loves you. You're unworthy of love. And when you Begin to accept that as your own internal dialog. You believe that that's you. And then you go out and you espouse those things. They gain a foothold or a stronghold within you, and it just snowballs and gets worse. So everything everybody has that everybody has this thing that's constantly petitioning you to agree with it, if you agree with it. That's the consent thing that we're always talking about.
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Matt (Co-host)
Me and Matt were kind of talking about this on Street Bible yesterday. And not necessarily like word for word, but in this. In the vein of this argument of like, okay, you're meant to do something, but there are these voices telling you that you won't. And maybe they're persuasive and maybe they're even right. Maybe like, hey, man, you're gonna die. And I'm not gonna speak that over myself, but it's like, okay, cool. If I die, it doesn't matter because I'm not, like, I'm not here to bring bring glory to the world. I'm just a guy with a baton and I'm gonna run it and I'm gonna pass it to the next guy. Like, this is what I'm building with this show. And whatever I try to do in life is like, I'm trying to like. We were talking about, what do we want to do with the show? What's our five year plan?
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David (Host)
That's a. That's a hard question. Yeah. Who asked that? Matt asked that.
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Matt (Co-host)
Matt asked that? Yeah. And he's like, I don't know. For my son to take over the show, I was like, that's actually a crazy thing. But I was like, why not? Why not? Who care? But, like, build this thing. And if I do die, this is. What is this? This is just kind of like, not that it's meaningless, but like, this is just a fleshly coil that we're in.
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David (Host)
This is a thing that we get to do for a while. Like, I was talking to Frank. Frank is a guy that supports us and he's always here in the shop. And we, you know, awesome dude. We always talk to him and he said, what's going on? Like, you know, said. Said good morning to me. And I just said, God, let me do it again. Like, that's it. Like, God's allowing us to do this thing for the time that we can for while we're here. And while we're doing it, I think the goal is like, because it's like, what's the five years, Five year plan? Whatever. God is going to let Us do for five years. That's what the plan is. And. And in the meantime, it's win as many people over to the kingdom of God as possible. Like, every time I. I talk to God on the way here, I'm just like, if it's one person, if it's two people, let it resonate with somebody. Let somebody pivot because of the things that we said on this show and let them orient towards God and let them start their journey or let it get them a little bit further down that, you know, that narrow path.
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Matt (Co-host)
But planting the seed.
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David (Host)
Planting a seed, planting a seed. That's it. That's. That's where we're just gardeners, dude. Gardeners.
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Laura Baker
Right, Right. And that's exactly right, because it tells us that the kingdom does not come by observation. We're not looking for it to come, but it is in you. So physically, we're in a kingdom of darkness, but the kingdom of light is inside of us. So broadcasting, you know, sowing seeds is what we do. And the. And I know that the Lord loves what you guys are doing and where things are going because from the first time I was on y' all show, he told me to. So he told me to sew in to yalls ministry. That's what he told me. A ministry. And y' all called it a show, but it is a ministry. And. And then he had me increase it. I partnered with you. You probably don't even know it, but. But yeah, I sewed into it because you people have to understand how the kingdom works. When you. When you see someone that is doing something that's prospering the kingdom, y' all are prospering the kingdom, and you didn't even know it back then. I mean, I've been on your show three or four times, and back then, you know, it was different. It was a little bit different, but y' all were just really coming into it and talking more and more about the Lord. And you already had Ed Mabry on, but I don't think you understood where things were going. And I don't know if you still don't. And. But the Lord does, and he said so into that. And then later on he told me to increase it. And so he's going to use it to glorify his kingdom, and it is you using the gifts that you've been given. This is the parable of the talents he gave you. Talent. Y' all are funny guys. You're charismatic, you're fun to listen to you. The younger crowd loves you guys. And Y' all are pulling a generation of people along with you. Like Paul said, follow me as I follow Christ. That's who you're following. You see what I'm saying? And you're following. You got a crowd that's following that. That's the, that aren't in churches.
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David (Host)
Well, yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, we talk quite a bit about the 501C3 system on this show.
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Matt (Co-host)
We've spoken so much about it that we actually go to church.
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David (Host)
Well, that was a lot of my thing.
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Laura Baker
Hey, this is Sarah. Look, I'm standing out front of a.m. p.m. Right now and, well, you're sweet and all, but I found something more fun. Filling, even kind of cheesy, but I like it. Sure, you met some of my dietary needs, but they've just got it all, so farewell. Oatmeal. So long, you strange soggy.
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David (Host)
I started going to church not because I, my goal was to be able to accurately criticize the system, but there was a part of me that knew I wasn't raised in the church. I don't really know what I'm talking about when I criticize this system. And I do think there's a lot of redeeming qualities about it. You know, I think that, I think that the, that, you know, the Lord is still present there. I, I don't think that that's the. I mean, I, I know that because every time I sit down it's like the sermon is talking to me or the sermon is talking to my wife.
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Matt (Co-host)
It has its moments of brilliance for sure.
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David (Host)
Crazy. Honestly, like, and, and, and I, that that's what I get when I go there. So I'm gonna keep going.
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Matt (Co-host)
There it is. I mean all the, all the criticisms are still correct. It's like a one day a week or two days a week kind of thing. It's A kind of a business.
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David (Host)
There's a show called Righteous gemstones. Have you ever heard of it?
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Matt (Co-host)
No.
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David (Host)
Danny McBride and the guy who played Roseanne's husband from the old sitcom Roseanne. Forget his name. He's a great actor. And. And it's about a family of pastors or. Or, you know, whatever, and they are owners of a megachurch, like a mega, mega church. You might look at them as, like, a Joel Olsteen kind of a character. What's the guy with the demons in his ey? Who owns the private plane? The little old dude.
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Matt (Co-host)
Yeah, yeah. Copeland.
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David (Host)
Yeah, Copeland. Copeland. And. And it's making fun of all that. It's a very funny show, dude. It's a very funny show. But they're like, you know, lord, I just want to thank you for my Escalade and my big house and my mansion and my beautiful wife and. And all the money I have and all my diamond rings, like, and it's. And. But they're just kind of, like, lost and confused, you know, I don't know where the show is going to go. But, yeah, I mean, it's a. It. It resonates. It's funny because it's true, you know, you. It is.
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Laura Baker
It is. It is true. And, you know, churches are good here. And I. I talk about this in the book, actually, because we need to know the difference between our kingdom and church. You know, in the kingdoms of this world, which is religion, which is churches. Churches are good for someone to get started. But if you're reading your Bible every day, like, one chapter, just talking about five to 15 minutes a day, if you're doing that, you're gonna pass what they're teaching in churches within a year or two, you're gonna be bored. You're gonna be bored within a year or two and be like, is this really it? And they're more God. And so as you grow, there's nowhere to go, because the majority. Now, every church is different, but the majority of churches, they do not touch on deliverance. Therefore, they do not acknowledge demons. And what is the problem in the church? Demons.
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David (Host)
That's an interesting thing to not talk about in the church. You know what my church did, that's. That I kind of.
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Matt (Co-host)
I kind of asked Pastor Rickle the day of the baptism, like, what's up with these demons? I was like, what's baptism? Because I like to ask every. Everybody that. And he was telling me. He's like, oh, you know, this and that. And he's explaining. I said, oh, that sounds a little Bit like an exorcism. And he goes, no, not really. And I'm. And then I asked him like a couple more questions and he then he described like basically exorcism. Like, basically, oh yeah, whatever was. Doesn't have access to you this kind of thing. And it's like been washed out kind of like. And I was like, like, yeah, right. And he's like, I'll talk to you later. Like, yeah, right.
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David (Host)
I love Pastor Rick. I love Pastor. He's a, he's a, you know, he's. What he does. He does it really well.
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Matt (Co-host)
Yeah.
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David (Host)
But you know, there's. The church can't facilitate all of it because they have five songs to play and then they got to do the tithing and then they got to do, you know, they got to talk about the, the, the missions and then you got to tie it to the missions and then they get a little time for sermons. And within that time, you know, hopefully your pastor really focuses on the Word. But, and our pastor does and, and, and the thing that he really sharpen my perspective on was specifically the Holy Spirit, you know, Jesus having to go so that the helper could be sent and, and, and to it. What he does that I love. And I now do it in my daily life, which is constantly inviting, you know, showing gratitude and, and thanking God for, for Jesus Christ and, and for the Holy Spirit and then asking the Holy Spirit to, to be sent to. I always say, you know, in your coffee shop, I don't care that Matt owns it. I go in your coffee shop, in your studio, on your show, so that, you know, we can be focused and, and, and we can speak the truth and we could draw people closer to God. And I, Dude, I swear to you, like, every time I do that, some beautiful thing happens. Like a dude bursts through the door and he goes, the Holy Spirit sent me. Or, or any number of things where we're talking about on the show. What I was just shouting about Dave.
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Matt (Co-host)
I don't know how he got here. He seemed a little blind.
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David (Host)
I know he is blind and he, and he's dry. I don't understand if he's driving. I didn't want him to incriminate himself, so I didn't ask. But yeah, I mean, so there are things that the church does incorrectly and there are things that the church does correctly. But yeah, you're right. Eventually you hit this kind of stopping point and if you're really hungry for a relationship with God, it's going to take. In my opinion. I don't Know, and I could be wrong. You know, some people might have a different experience, but it looks to me like you're going to need more than the church. You're going to need to pursue the Lord with your heart, and you're going to have to, you know, this, this idea of, of having God on your mind all the time.
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Matt (Co-host)
This is why I really like this place. The standard coffee shop, library and casino. Casino. It's like, yeah, you come in here and people are always, you know, they're talking about this or that, but really they're talking about God all the time. So you're coming. You can come in here and get into a conversation about just about anything. And it'll always kind of like, lead back to God in a weird way. But I think that's the point. I think that's what church is, where you're always, like, asking a question.
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David (Host)
Yeah. What's that, what's that thing where it's like, it, it's the glory of God to conceal a thing. And it's the, the, the. The something of men, of kings.
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Laura Baker
It's the, it's the glory of kings to search it out.
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David (Host)
Yeah. And I feel like you're a king.
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Laura Baker
You're a king.
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David (Host)
Well, I mean, it does feel like God has always kind of like, you know, obfuscated a thing, right? Like, like, I love the way Matt puts it, God leaves these breadcrumbs and he wants you to go and he wants you to search. He's not just going to give it to you, but there's like real glory. And you feel that too. What I've been calling conspiracy for all these years is really the pursuit of the truth. And if Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and the life, then it is the pursuit of God ultimately. Right? And you have these moments where, like, you know, I know the Holy Spirit can reveal things to you. When you, when you are in a moment of revelation, that is that epiphany thing that happens. There's so many people that experience that within conspiracy. We're sifting through. We're sifting through. We find a connection or some idea falls in our lap one way or another, and we go and it's like this big moment. Like, that's. I think that's what revelation feels like. I think it's that thing where something connects where there wasn't a connection before. And that connection illuminates like a much bigger picture. And it's, it's beautiful. And so in that way, if you say it's the glory of kings to. To search it out. Like, yeah, dude. Yeah, I would agree with that.
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Laura Baker
Yeah. And you're. You're absolutely right. And we have the part of us that is our spirit. Matter of fact, I sent Top an email one time because I was watching one of you guys show, and he said, yeah, I had this dream. And like, I knew in the dream, Top. You knew. I'm trying to remember what it was about. Oh, you were watching. You were watching the Jesus coming in on a donkey. But you go, but I knew that guy wasn't Jesus. And you go, I don't know how I knew that, but I knew it wasn't him. It was like an imposter or something. Okay. The spirit knows. It has a knowing. It bypasses the faculties of the brain. You're not using reasoning and intellect. You just have a knowing. So you can be on a road and you go, I don't know how I knew this. This road was exactly 324ft long, but I knew it. And you knew exactly what it was made out of. You can be looking at a mountain and you'll say, well, I know, like in the. In the dream, I knew that the mountain I was looking at was filled with copper. I don't know how I knew that, but it was filled with copper because it had something to do with copper. And, and so you have these knowings in your dreams where you have all this extra information. Just like in. In my first book when I talk about the demonic experience that happened to me, or it was an expulsion that I didn't. I didn't know. I didn't know this demon was in me. The spirit was in me, and I was born again. Spirit filled full to overflowing. You know, all the gifts, everything operating. And I had this. While I was focusing on the Lord and listening to scripture with my eyes closed. My. My. My vision or the image in front of me went to. I was in this underground, like, thing. It. It was a mausoleum is what I was in. But I didn't know it at the time.
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David (Host)
But.
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Laura Baker
But I knew that the tunnel that I was in was stone. It was stone on top of me. The walls were stone, the floor was stone, and it was looking into this central area with two stone hallways going off behind him. And. And this creature was in this vault area. I called it a courtyard because I didn't know what it was at the time, but he was in. And whenever I looked up mausoleum, I was like looking at. They're underground crips for entire families for stately Kingly, you know, families and he was a king. He was a king spirit. The Lord had already shown me that. And it was the spirit of rebellion. A lot of people have the spirit of rebellion. If you know anybody that likes to argue about everything like they got to argue about everything. There you go. Top has that spirit. We can do some deliverance later if you want.
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David (Host)
Oh yeah, oh yeah.
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Laura Baker
There you go. He's got a spirit of rebellion and, and witchcraft goes right along with rebellion. It says witchcraft is as the spirit of rebellion. And, and I had played with a Ouija board whenever I was a kid and so I've got this demonic spirit in me.
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Laura Baker
I was already bent that way because it's called iniquity and it's inborn sin. When you're born, you're born with. You're. There you go. Okay. It was, it was kind of like that but it was more ancient looking. The, the little rougher that I was in was more yep, rougher and ancient looking but it had, it's for very stately families and they bury the whole family in there. So in other words, and what the place was is it's in your soul and they are wounds in your soul. That's what that is. When I saw that the demons, demons reside in your flesh. So like when you're telling, when you're telling spirits of infirmity to come out. Arthritis, I command you to come out of the hands. You know, masturbation, I command you to come out of the genitals, out of the hands, out of whatever, whatever These evil spirits are. You command them to come out of the flesh, but in the soul, they hide in the wounds. The wounds are like a tomb. And the tomb. In dreams and visions, they're always going to look like some kind of catacomb mausoleum, a cemetery, like a. It's going to be. Have something associated with death.
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David (Host)
We're dead.
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Laura Baker
Whenever you see it, we're dead. Yes. They hide in the dark and where dead things are because they are dead. And when you. That's why I say it's not about chasing after the spirit, because I didn't even know that spirit was in me. It was. It's. It's all about chasing the light, the light of Christ. And you're spending time with him, you're praying, you're in the Word, you're listening to worship music, you're doing communion, you're fasting, you know, you're doing Christian things. And I didn't know. I did not know it, but the Lord had me for two weeks on this, you know, on this time that I was just spending with him listening to the Bible while I'm making beds and doing chores around the house and stuff. And, and reading. I was reading. I was doing like Torah. Torah lessons where I was listening to the same five things every day, you know, the same five chapters every day while I'm doing my work and stuff around the house, doing communion, just because I love to do communion and talk to the Lord and thank him for what he did for me. I have a book on communion because I love it so much. And, And I was on a fast, and because he told me to do one, I didn't. It was. And I didn't even know this. He told me, do a witchcraft fast. So there's different kinds of fasting. Witchcraft fast is three days. So you go out of 72 hours. You go 23 hours, no food, no water. Then you eat and drink whatever you want for an hour. Then you go 23 hours, no food, no water. Then you eat whatever you want for an hour. Then you polish it off with your last 23 hours and you're done. So out of the 72 hours you have fasted. 70. And that correlates to the book of Esther, where Haman. Haman was an agagite, and agagite came from King Agag, who was the, like, master of witchcraft. And. And so when you're breaking this, it's because Haman was given the king's signet ring for 70 days to take out Israel. And that's what he Haman was gonna. He was gonna try. He was changing the laws so he could take out Israel. And then Esther tells everybody fast and pray, and, you know, and then they end up taking them, taking them back. But the 70 days that Haman, who's an agagite over witchcraft, had that signet ring. You're fasting 70 hours to counter that. And I'm telling you, it works because I did that. And that witchcraft, that witchcraft spirit is what I saw. That spirit of rebellion, witchcraft spirit is what I saw in that crypt. And I told it when I saw him and he saw me, we were looking straight into each each other's eyes. But I had this knowing of all this other stuff. The, the hallways going down the back, the. The. Everything was made of stone. Like, I had a knowing of all this information that you can't possibly know just from a glance. And I said, you have no power in me. You have no part in me. And we have nothing in common. Because when you have nothing in common with them, you have dominion over them. And I said, you have to go. And. And he would not go. And the freaky thing that happened to me was while I'm laying in this bed, I heard like wind go in my mouth. And. And then I heard. Then there was a twisting going on all the way down, across and back up my abdomen. And it was physical. It was physically twisting up and down. Like if you walked in the room, you would have seen my stomach going up and down like a. Like a satanic demonic movie. And then this foul, evil sound came out of my mouth that was not my vocal cords.
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Laura Baker
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David (Host)
Do you think that that is from. I mean, I know you said that you play with a Ouija board, but it's interesting because this thing that looks like a mausoleum, and you're saying it's where, like, families are buried. And I'm thinking of, like, generations. Right. Generational iniquity is a lot of what we end up talking about here. And so I wonder if this thing. Do you think it had legal rights to you because of a thing that you did? Is there any. Any of that within your own ancestry? Do you think it's a combination of the two? Or is it strictly just what you did?
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Matt (Co-host)
And also when it. When you looked at it and it looked at you, was it. Was it surprised at all to see you seeing it?
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Laura Baker
Okay, the. Okay, I'll answer that first. Top. He had this look in his eyes. He had little beady eyes, real small, beady eyes. And he was hairy, and. And he was looking straight. And I kept thinking, I've seen that look before. What. What was that look? And I kept thinking about it, and it was defeat. He had defeat in his eyes. And I could see it because he. His time there was done, and he knew it. He had been found. He had been seen. Because they. They hide in the darkness. And once they're discovered, what are they gonna do, you know? So the look in his. His face was like, oh, crap. You know, he was looking at me like.
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Matt (Co-host)
Like, that's it. Been a good run.
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Laura Baker
Like, it's done. And he had wings. He had wings that were all black and gnarly and tatted up and had holes and rips and tears all in them. But he was an ancient spirit. He was an older ancient spirit. David. He. I know that in my bloodline, it wasn't just me. I was already bent that way. I was already born, you know, always wanting to know the future in all the wrong places. I loved going to the Renaissance festival. I'd run straight to the fortune teller. I've called the psychic hotline before. Went to tarot card readers. Bought my own tarot cards. I thought they were so cool. I You know, me and this kid, when we would play, we would hold up just regular cards and try to do psychic stuff like. What do you think I'm holding? I think it's a hearts. Yeah. Oh my God, it's hearts. What, what's the number? It's a jack. Yeah. Oh my God. You know, we would freak out over that stuff, so. Because that stuff is real, you're just in the wrong, you know, place. Looking for all the answers. And I was bent that way because my mom was the same way. Looking for truth. Looking for truth and all the wrong. My mom was that way, so I know it came from her. She wasn't a witch or anything. I, I wasn't a witch. I just thought it was cool. And I, I wasn't raised Christian, so I was like, you, David. I, I didn't know all that stuff. I, I took my son for his eighth birthday to, to a, to a lady, like a palm reader lady. Because I just thought it was fun. Yeah, I had to repent for that. I had to make him repent too, and renounce whatever we received. And she goes, she goes, oh, well, she goes, I've Never had an 8 year old come before. And I go, really? Because I thought that was strange. I thought everybody did it. And she goes, and I'm a white. She didn't call herself a white witch. She called herself a white something. And I was like, magician maybe? No, not magician. It was like a white tarot card reader, whatever. Palm reader. Basically a white witch. Okay. There is no such thing as a white witch. Guys, they're, they're all getting their information from the dark side.
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David (Host)
And even if they clever thing to do though, right, Laura? I mean, like, if you can, like, hey, yeah, this stuff is real. And there's like a bad side and there's a good side and like, no, we're part of like the good type. You know what I mean? Like, that is enticing. It gets a lot of people, you know, the audience knows. And I don't know if you remember, but like, yeah, my grandmother was into all that stuff. I remember she had me, you know, look into her crystal ball when I was a kid and tell her what I saw and all this, you know, kind of crazy stuff and, and you know, I struggle with that same thing. It's like, was my grandma a witch? No, I don't think she was a witch as much as she was like, yeah, looking for the truth. She saw beyond that veil on occasion. Well, I guess a lot. And when you have those experiences, you go seeking answers. And if you're not grounded in Christ, then you know your answers are coming from whatever spirit seeks to deceive you at that time.
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Matt (Co-host)
So, yeah, the crazy thing is, like, you can go from having a crystal ball and, like, playing with the Ouija board to, like, a very deep level doing tarot cards to, like, you're saying people today are initiated within this, like, mystery Babylon in America. Everywhere.
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Laura Baker
Yeah, it's everywhere.
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Matt (Co-host)
One of the latest episodes of Merkel kind of really put that in perspective for me. It's like, when you're looking at every single thing we do, from the food we eat to the entertainment we partake in. I used to fall asleep listening to espn, and it's like, what was being whispered in your ear as you're sleeping? What kind of spells? What. Like, what effect did that have on my life? Like, we just don't know. But what we do know for sure, and Matt says this all the time as well, is that, like, we live in the most dangerous time to be a Christian. The time where it's, like, acceptable, where this is a Christian nation. We live in America with all these freedoms, like religious freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of, you know, expression, things like that. And I'm just like, maybe. I don't know, maybe, like, we shouldn't really have that because that allows so much more in, and that that's allowed in is now proliferated through the society and it's, like, unaccounted for.
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David (Host)
Yeah.
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Matt (Co-host)
In every corner. This is what the show is kind of about. We look at every corner, we go, yeah, Nephilim. Nephilim. Nephilim shit over there. And it's like, man, so how do you. How do you come out. How do you come out of that? When he says, come out of her, come out of her. Because we're all, in a way.
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David (Host)
And, like, you know, I'm saturated in her.
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Matt (Co-host)
I'm talking in her. In this, like, fornicating, sort of spiritual lust, whether we like it or not. I'm talking to myself, too. Like, this. Whatever, you know, like, it's almost unavoidable in America, where we live. Everything. Everything we do, everywhere we turn, even the coffee shop, is like, the freaking. The energy it has, like, what is it? Like, the Kabbalistic Tree of life?
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David (Host)
It's a segment of the Kabbalistic Tree of Life is. Is what they used as a logo.
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Matt (Co-host)
But, like, you know, it's. Again, so he doesn't know.
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David (Host)
That's not a conspiracy in the crazy.
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Matt (Co-host)
I'm straight Bible and we came in and we were like, hey, look at that. What's that about? And he's like, I don't know.
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David (Host)
It's a good energy, drinking, clean energy.
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Matt (Co-host)
We don't know these symbols, but it's like, it's everywhere.
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David (Host)
It's everywhere.
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Laura Baker
It's crazy. It's almost unfair if you, if you start looking at, if you get into learning about Freemasonry, because that's their religion. That is their religion. And it, it is symbolic. I mean, you're, you're right. The symbols are everywhere. It's saturated in every aspect of life, every corner you turn. And it's definitely just glaring at you from the media. And that's by design. You know, all the people that they've had, MK Ultra and stuff, they've got to reinforce that, that programming in them. So they got to have those symbols everywhere to keep those people reinforced, you know, with their programming. That's part of what they do. That's what they do in the movies, too. I mean, they put things in there specifically to reprogram, reinforce that programming for them. So it is, it is saturated everywhere. And the only way, you know, like one time I was sitting at a light, just waiting on the light to turn, and I laid my, my arm and my head on the steering wheel and I looked over and there's a Starbucks and I'm just staring at it, and by the spirit of God. Like, I had no idea back then. By the spirit of God. I go, that's demonic. That is demonic. And that, that emblem. And I went and looked it up and sure enough, it is so, you know, only by the spirit of God. And then once you learn a lot of their symbols, you're like, oh, there it is, there it is, there it is. Oh, yeah, it's all. We're saturated. We're, we're swimming in it. It's like a suit all over the place.
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David (Host)
I'm a nightmare to watch anything with. You know, like, if I, if, you know, my wife or my wife, she will be like, hey, why don't you. Let's sit down and watch something and just be normal for a little bit. And I go, like, okay, sure. And then it's just like everything in the background, every message that it's trying to deliver, every ideology, it's trying to slip you. Like, nothing goes. And it, it, it is interesting because once you see it, I think you really have no other choice but to. Well, I don't know, maybe you do have a choice, but you always have a choice. But the, the desire to come out of her is like, it gets to the point where I am, I guess, for lack of a better term, disgusted. Constantly it makes me mad. You know, I see these things. I see what they want you to believe. I see what they want you to perpetuate. And it upsets me deeply. Dude.
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Matt (Co-host)
It's a weird thing too because in a sense our job is, is almost to consume these things or at least be like, be aware of them so that we can talk about them here.
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David (Host)
Yeah.
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Matt (Co-host)
To people who may not be aware, but it's like, man, like, that's a yeah.
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David (Host)
Like I gotta go watch that gay age of disclosure thing now.
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Matt (Co-host)
I'm like, yeah, I'm dreading it. But like, yeah, like, I guess we got to talk. We have to watch it, to talk about it, to tell people. And hopefully they go, oh yeah.
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David (Host)
I think ultimately it's like we, we build up a fan base who trusts us enough to at least be honest. And then it's like, at what point do we have to ourselves in it anymore?
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Matt (Co-host)
I was again, that comes up way too much on this show. We got to like, stop.
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David (Host)
I know. We got.
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Matt (Co-host)
Maybe you should pay us more.
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David (Host)
I think so. The standard coffee at least. I know, dude.
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Matt (Co-host)
What I was telling him that in, in response to somebody that we had on the show recently that we kind of had a little bit of beef with.
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He's bringing nonsense to the show and I know it and I give him pushback. But we still have an interview to do so I'm not going to be disrespectful, but I also trust my audience that we've been talking to them for hours and hours some. I mean they post their yearly things like 15, 000 minutes they've been listening to. Like, that's insane. But I trust, like, all right, you've been hearing what I'm saying, and I'm not going to sit here and like, guard your ears to things that might not be true. You know what, you know what's going to be true. And if, I mean, if it's like a clever or slick lie, I'll, I'll intercede a little bit. But I'm like, I trust these guys. They know what's up. Let them run with it. You know, they're, they're adults. They've heard it.
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Laura Baker
Right.
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Matt (Co-host)
Good.
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David (Host)
Well, that actually brings me.
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Laura Baker
I was just gonna say we have to be responsible for ourselves. You're right.
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David (Host)
Yes. Yeah, you do have to be responsible for yourself. We don't treat our audience like they're, like, they're holding, they behave like children. It's very off putting. But, but we don't treat them like that. And, and, and I think that you have to see the counterfeit in order to be able to identify it to whatever. And there's, there's a lot to be said about understanding the real thing so intimately that you can spot the counterfeit. But I also think it's worth every once in a while looking over it. And speaking of that counterfeit, you were talking about this whole freedom of religion, freedom of expression, freedom of speech, and how it's such a dangerous time to be a Christian. I think one of the things that adds to that being a dangerous time is that within that freedom, the freedom to choose even, Even Christ. Right. Is then the doors swing open and you now have. Because in a time of persecution, the.
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Matt (Co-host)
Choice is very clear.
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David (Host)
It's very clear. But when, when things are liberal and wide open, what emerges is like, well, witch Christ. And that gets really slippery, right, that.
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Matt (Co-host)
The Bible talks about this extensively.
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David (Host)
And this is what you had a dream about. This is what I'm saying. It's like that dream of yours is, is, look at the time that we're in. We're saturated about dude. Yeah. Pleiadian, Jesus Christ consciousness. You know, everything that is Christ adjacent. It's very close.
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Matt (Co-host)
But not quite.
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David (Host)
But not quite. And it's, it's.
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Matt (Co-host)
Yeah, that dream, they were like, they were throwing the palms at his feet as he's, as he's riding by. And it's crazy too. He's riding on the donkey. Historically accurate. And I'm like, how, why, why should I know that? Like, you're supposed to like ride on it sideways as. As you're going through the. The gates of Jerusalem. So it's like, you know, he's declaring himself as king, and that's like a big moment. But I had no concept of what that is. But I knew. I looked at. I was like, yeah, that's not. I don't know what that is, but that's not it. Look like him. Everyone else know. Yeah, but that's like. That's not the guy. It's just. It's very weird. So it's like when the time.
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Laura Baker
And you were a kid, right?
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Matt (Co-host)
Yeah.
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Laura Baker
Were you a kid?
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Matt (Co-host)
Probably 12, 11. Around that age. Yeah. So young. Younger kid, but not old enough to really conceptualize these things and how important they were, you know?
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Laura Baker
Right, right.
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Matt (Co-host)
And I think that's why, like, I guess, like, you know, we were just talking about my argumentative nature or, like, rebellious nature. It's something that I'm like, yeah, maybe I should ease up on it. But if I do ease up on it, then I lose that sort of that edge. That's like, there's a counterfeit coming.
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David (Host)
Yeah. We bust your balls a lot about it at me and Matt, but I will admit that that is what you're constantly sniffing out is the counterfeit in either an individual or an idea.
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Matt (Co-host)
Yeah.
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David (Host)
And that is the consistent pattern.
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Matt (Co-host)
But it's like, it's. Again, this comes at a cost. The same thing that we're doing with, like, if we're doing an investigation into something pretty dark. This does come at a cost. So it's like, how do you shield yourself from that? Well, be in the Bible, I guess.
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Laura Baker
But you're. But the rebellion thing is different than discernment because you would use the discernment for what you're talking about. The rebellion are those people that argue for so long that by the time they get to the end of the argument, they're arguing the opposite of what they started with. Like. And I'm not even kidding. I. I have my son. Does it. But. Or he used to, because he got it from me and I used to.
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Matt (Co-host)
Arguing for argument's sake. Yeah.
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Laura Baker
Yes, yes. And they just. And. And he's. The older he gets, the. The less and less that, you know, that's gone away. And I've told him before, too. Like, in my family, I'll say, hey, put your demon up. I'm not going to play with that. Like, put that up and not going to entertain it, you know, or whatever. Or, hey, you got a spirit of rebellion. Look at what you're doing. And so everybody in my family, we pointed out to each other, hey, you're such and such is up. You need to do something with that. And, and, and we'll, we'll get in arguments with, no, your spirit of this is doing that and your spirit of that is doing this. But it's really funny around here. But, but David, like what you were saying about the time we live in and if there wasn't, if, if we had laws that would kind of bat down the hatches, would it be better? It would be worse. Because then you have the ones in charge defining, you know, the laws. Like they would say, well, nobody can worship anyone but God, but I get to choose who God is. See, that's the problem. That's problem. Like with the Noahide laws, you know, that are coming for persecution. Those are coming. And the, the people that are the rabbis that are putting that together have put that together. They're the ones that dictate who God is and it's not Jesus Christ. And the penalty of breaking one of these laws is death by decapitation. So, so once you get, you know, started with the law thing, that's a tr. That's a slippery slope too. That can end up really bad in a, in a bad way also without the freedom.
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David (Host)
That's a good point.
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Laura Baker
It really.
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Matt (Co-host)
Yeah, we're, we're headed that way. I think we're, it feels like we're headed that way via the route of like national Christianity. So we're watching on a world stage Christianity become popularized. But like it's, it's also this kind of a version of it. Well, I'm not going to make a judgment on it just yet, but I'm suspicious. This is, this is where my, I guess you call my argumentative, rebellious side that is, is sparking up. Because I'm watching it. I'm watching like Jelly Roll on Joe Rogan and Jelly Roll is quoting the Bible and he's saying a lot of nice things. Or I'm watching Elon Musk say, like, I believe that there is a supreme creator, a God.
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David (Host)
I heard that that happened. Yeah. And I saw a lot of people are like, oh my God. Elon Musk is based.
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Matt (Co-host)
He believes in God. I was like, yeah, I mean, very non specific. He believes in a Cree. Yeah, sure. Everybody does. Yeah. Unless you're an atheist and you're just completely brain dead, you're out of the conversation. But I'm like, you're not being specific. And then when pressed on these issues, Joe Rogan's like, yeah, I'm going to church. But, you know, maybe Jesus comes back as AI or something and it's like, God. Yeah, okay, okay. Like, this is a weird sort of Christianity, but it's going to gain a political movement eventually. And when that happens, where are we?
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David (Host)
And I also think that, that one of the big dangers, or maybe a good question to ask, is given the political and cultural climate we've been subjected to, all of its debauchery, all the ways in which the previous administrations have dropped the ball. We're so tired of the left. What happens when you choose what you think is Christianity almost exclusively out of rebellion against this previous status quo? Like, is that why you should be choosing Christianity? This is something that I asked before is like, are you, are you glomming on to a church in a system, or are you pursuing the heart of God and trying to, you know, strengthen your relationship with God? Because it seems like a lot of people are glomming onto a system that is a good cudgel against the previous system.
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Matt (Co-host)
Well, this is like.
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Laura Baker
Yes.
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Matt (Co-host)
So thank, thank God for. I'm sorry, Laura. I feel like we're just like, we're very chatty.
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Laura Baker
Yeah, no, no, I'm, I'm tracking, I'm tracking. Y' all keep going.
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Go to selectquote.com for your free quote. That's selectquote.com selectquote.com details on sample rate@selectquote.com but yeah, on Straight Bible, we're doing a show with Matt and we're covering Jude. So Jude 18. This was yesterday's show. He says how that they told you that there should be mockers in the last time who should walk after their own ungodly lusts. These be they who separate themselves sensual, having not the spirit, but the. So what he's talking about are some of these people that are in, in the church that they, they are kind of in this, but they have their own ungodly lust. And we, we pulled up like, I don't know, maybe 10 scriptures that are. That are referencing this. And it's like, this is a, that's a dangerous time because big time, you're taking like, it's, it's the counterfeit, right? This is like, it appears like this. But in this age of America where things are so easy and things are so liberal and sort of open and free, we take liberties with what is said in the Bible and the strict instruction. And that's super dangerous. And then I have to get argumentative and people get mad at me.
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Laura Baker
No, I'm. I totally agree with you that what I see coming is the sword with Islam and then the guillotine with Judaism. And people are going to be begging, begging for, you know, this to stop, and they're going to introduce this new form of Christianity and people are going to lap it up because think about it, that's Antichrist. And think about it, there's a scripture that says where, where these Christians say to Jesus. Anyway, they think they're Christians. They say to Jesus, he's saying, depart from me, you workers of iniquity. And they're like, but didn't we. We cast out demons in your name and we raised people from the dead in your name. And, and. But he says, your workers of lawlessness depart from me. You know, he's saying, you don't belong to me. He says, I don't know you. I mean, so the, so it all comes down to relationships and the, the parable of the ten virgins. It all comes down to relationship with him. So. Because there's, there's power in his name. You know, the seven sons of Skiva, they went and cast demons out of people, and then they got their tails whipped by a demon because they didn't have any, any power of Christ. They didn't have any authority of a kingdom that was higher than the demon. So. And we do. We do. If you have relationship with Jesus Christ, and. And he says, if you love me, you'll follow my commandments, and if you don't, you won't. It's that simple. So if you. You can call yourself a Christian all day long, but if it's by word only, if it's just, you know, by name only, you're not a Christian. You're not. And I even have had the Lord tell me when I'm doing deliverance with someone or when I'm praying with someone. He says, ask them if they've confessed me. And I'm thinking, well, of course they're a Christian. And I ask them, and they have not. They've never done it. I go, what makes you think you're a Christian? And they go, well, because when I moved here and I met my husband and he was going to a Christian church, and I started going with him, I said, okay, so let's start there. Because they've never, ever claimed Jesus Christ. They've never become a citizen of our kingdom. They've never claimed him. They've never confessed it with their mouth. So our kingdom cannot help them, because they're not even. That would be like me asking Russia to come help me when I'm a citizen of another nation. It's retarded.
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David (Host)
Oh, that's a great point.
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Laura Baker
Yeah, you got to be a citizen before. A lot of people that. That I've helped with their kids having issues with demonic dreams and stuff. I tell them, I can tell you right now, the problem is your child is not born again yet. And they're like, yeah, but they're under our stewardship. They're underneath us. They're under our covering. And I say, yeah, and it's just fine when you go tuck them in bed and everything's cool, right? And they go, yeah. And I said, and. And then as soon as you leave, the kingdom leaves and the demons know it, and they come after them and they terrify the kid. And the kid is so scared, they won't. One of the kids wouldn't even go out in the daytime anymore. He got so scared because they went and did deliverance on the kid, and he wasn't born again. So he had no holy spirit in him. He had nothing to. And so the. The devil. The devil that came out of him, he got better for a little while, and then a couple weeks later, he was worse off than he started. Well, you know that scripture, don't you? Yeah, that's right. There you go. He had seven more coming. They all came into that kid. And he was worse off than he started. And it was so bad, he couldn't even play outside in the daytime. So I said, your. The problem is your child is not born again. He needs a kingdom to fight for him so that when mommy and daddy are gone, then the. The spirit in him will contest or push back the spirits of darkness. And she said, I'm gonna have to pray on this. And she did. And she got her kid. He was five years old, and. And she got him born again. She told him about Jesus Christ. You got to remember, the spirit is not aged like the body. So a child. One time, my. My niece. My. My nephew's little girl, she was watching me lead her brother to Christ. And we were in the swimming pool, and I didn't know she was watching. And when her brother swam off, she walked up, she's 4 years old, and she goes, I want that. And I said, oh, baby. And I felt the finger in my face. Spiritual. I felt the Holy Spirit. God. No, ma'. Am. No, ma'. Am. She. She knows. Her spirit knows. And I said, come here, baby. And I led her to Christ right then to say the words. And she's confessing with her mouth that Jesus Christ, that's who she wants to be her Lord and Savior. So people need to do that with their children as young as possible to have a kingdom that is fighting for them. And they can grow in it. They can grow in it as they grow up, you know, they can grow in it, but they need that.
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Matt (Co-host)
I try to do that with my. I mean, we have a couple of episodes where we. I talk with them about stuff on this show just for. Just for fun. But I do this often with them. Like, before we go to bed, we'll read something. But then I'll talk with them and I'll let them ask me questions. And sometimes I'm like, this gets. Gets a little bit deeper than I even understand how to explain to you. But I guess I try to do my best.
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David (Host)
Yeah.
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Matt (Co-host)
Because it's complicated, you know, five and seven years old. Like, how am I going to explain to you the consequences of eternal life and damnation? Yeah, like, you don't understand.
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Laura Baker
They don't need to know all that. Yeah, they don't need to know. They just need to know that Jesus loves them and that they're separated. They're separated. Their spirit is separated. They're dead to God. Their spirit is separated from God. And you don't have to say you're dead in your transgression and all you don't have to say all that. You just say you're separated from God and Jesus is the way back to that, to that connection to God. And so if you want that, then you just let Daddy know and Daddy will tell you what to say, and you lead them in that prayer. And if they hear one or two stories about Jesus from the Bible and a kid's Bible, they're so in love with him. They want that anyway. They're like, I love him. I love Jesus. Their hearts are still so pure. But I had another friend, her. Her son. She said, laura, I woke up one night. Or she said, I had a dream. She said, my son walk. Sleepwalks. He sleepwalks around the house. And I said, well, that's a spirit. And she said, okay. She said, well, I'm in my bed one night and I've dreamt that I sat up in the bed and I was looking down the hallway. And when you look down the hallway, you can see straight into the den where the coffee table is. And she said, I saw this demonic creature walk up and put something on the table. And then he looked down the hallway at me. And she said. And I was just like, I'm going to be real still and maybe he won't see me move. And he did. He turned his head back away and he walked away. Well, the next morning, on the coffee table was a stuffed animal from her of her kid. And I said, well, what you saw, you were not dreaming. That was not a dream. You were in the spirit. And what you saw is the creature that is using your son to walk around in the nighttime. You need to get him saved. You need to teach him about Jesus. And she did. And it never happened again. And it's been a couple years.
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David (Host)
There you go. I. I look at a lot of, like, I'm. I'm skeptical. I have, like, a stirring in my spirit. When I think about. My son has a couple of really, really old toys, really, really old stuffed animals from when he was like a baby. And I don't know what it is. I don't know how to put my finger on it, but I'm like, something is up with that. I don't know if we should hold on to these things. I just think that when a child dumps their focus into, let's say, like a little bear or something like that for years and years and years, I think it becomes an apt doorway for a thing to, to interact with them through. And I've not really thought that line out too much, but I don't know what it is. Like something about these little like totems, these little, these little things that have like this spiritual connection to your child. You know, like, like kids will have like a safety blanket or like a doll or whatever it is, and it's huge for them. Like, you know, some kids, you'll try to remove it and they'll, they'll kick and scream. And I go, what we perceive as an inanimate object is not to this child. And I don't think you can downplay that. I think there's something more significant at work there than, than we typically like to be aware of and, and just knowing that these spirits will deceive children in, in multitudes of ways. In particular, how they present themselves to the kid. I just go like, there's something there with, with the stuffies. There's something there with these little totems with these little things that they're dumping spiritual energy into. I don't really know. But it is something that every once in a while I, I see it and I'm, I'm stirred a little bit. I go, I don't know if I.
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Laura Baker
Okay, so then I don't know if.
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David (Host)
I'm just being an old dude about it.
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Laura Baker
No, if, if you have a discernment about it, it's coming from your spirit. Like I said, you have a. Knowing there's something off, you know, and you might say on just those, like the big, the big bunny thing doesn't do anything for me, that those things over there bother me. That means you're picking up on the, there's something spiritually connected to them. And as the head of the household, especially with you guys being the man of the house, you're the priest of your family. You go over, lay your hand on that thing and say, I take authority over this right now. All demonic or unholy spiritual attachment. I break it right now by the blood of Jesus Christ, I command it to get out. If you want to keep the object or you know, you might ask the Holy Spirit, do you want me to burn this object? Because if it's like some kind of freemason talisman or something, he's probably going to tell you to burn it, you know, but a stuffed animal because. And I'll tell you how it gets in there, David.
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Laura Baker
Okay, so like when, when we get stuff that's coming from India, Mexico, you know, things that are made in other.
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David (Host)
Foreign countries, circular tins of sugar cookies, they all come from India. Now I can't enjoy them mostly because I've seen the way they're. And it's super rough, dude. Super rough. Don't say Chuck from Guam said Pokemon Chuck. You, you keep your mouth shut, dude. You don't, don't keep it quiet over there, okay? Please continue, Laura.
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Laura Baker
Okay. Okay, so if it's made with hands that worship false gods, it's their essence and their hands and all of their, you know, because, because we say, lord, bless the work of my hands and so that everything that we do prospers, right? And we can bless other people and we can demonstrate our kingdom and the kind of things that the kingdom brings from, from out of us. It doesn't matter if you're a carpenter, you know, if you, you build clay pots, you know, it doesn't matter. Whatever you're doing with your hands, y' all are, you know, y' all are on a, on a microphone, you know, you're on a computer, you're doing the work of your hands and it's blessed. But they worship false gods and they're, you know, goes into the garments that are made and we're wearing those clothes and buying those stuffed animals and have that stuff. So when, when you. I regularly, especially if I go buy something second hand, I lay my hand on it and I, and when I put it in my car and I say right now, I take possession of these items. I take authority over them. I remove them from the earth curse system. I break all demonic detached attachments to, from it right now, and I cover it in the blood of Jesus and I bless it. So you're transferring that kingdom to your kingdom and you're breaking any curses, any demonic attachments, you're breaking all that stuff off of it and then you're blessing it and you're good to go. Then you're good to go.
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David (Host)
That, that's really interesting.
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Matt (Co-host)
You know, that's the idea behind like halal. Yeah.
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David (Host)
Kosher.
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Matt (Co-host)
Kosher.
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David (Host)
Yeah.
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Matt (Co-host)
And it's like, yeah, it seems trivial at the time, but you're like, I don't know, there's huge swaths of people who are like, I won't even put that next to me.
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David (Host)
Yeah, if I got to put this in my body, it had better be.
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Matt (Co-host)
That makes a lot of damn sense when you think about it.
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David (Host)
You know, Laura said a moment ago, the idea of Islam being the sword and, and the Jews being the guillotine. And I know we have a tendency to scoff at the, the, the Muslim thing because oftentimes throughout history it's used as like their attack dog, right? I mean, it's like, you know, you might speculate that 911 was using the Muslims to the interests of the Jews in order to, you know, invade the Middle east, etc. Etc. And so when it pokes its head up again, there is this tendency to be like, you're looking at the dog when you're, you know, you should be looking at the owner. And I know there's probably Muslims out there. They're like, are you calling me a dog? They don't like dogs.
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Matt (Co-host)
They hate dogs.
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David (Host)
But what I will say is something is going on in. Is it Michigan? And this is really fascinating. I've not been aware of it because I don't really give a crap about it, but my wife is on Tik Tok and it's funny because I'm listening to TikTok kind of come around and have the same conversation that Twitter has been having for the last two years. It's now happening there. So there's all these like hyper based takes going on, right? And one of them is like, you know, these, it'll be these white women. They're like, I don't, I've had enough of these Somalis, right? And I'm like, this is fun. So I'm listening to it. And, and, but because she.
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Matt (Co-host)
Has the rape gotten a little too much for you?
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David (Host)
I think it's gotten a little bit too much. And you know, I could get how that might be, reach a critical mass and you might go, enough is enough. But I had no idea the degree to which Michigan has become just Somalian. And what's really funny is she, she's reading these comments and she's reading them out loud and people are funny, dude.
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Matt (Co-host)
I was explaining to the.
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David (Host)
Well, hold on, hold on. They go, they go in the comments, they go, Michigan was promised to the Somalians 3,000 years ago.
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Matt (Co-host)
It's funny.
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David (Host)
And she's like, what, dude? And I'm like, actually, let me explain that to you because it's, it's just a playoff of, you know, Israel being promised or that land being promised to the Jews 3,000 years ago. And that's why whatever's happening to the Palestinians is happening. So. But that is. It's gotten to a place where they are blasting prayer. What is it, five or seven times a day? Whatever the Muslims do, they, you know, they do a prayer announcement in Michigan. Dude, they're just sitting there and they're.
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Matt (Co-host)
Doing it in Bay Ridge in New York too. But it's like. And I get it. I'm just like. I, like, it's. It's hard for me because I'm like, you guys are battling the symptoms rather than like addressing what's happening. Like, we've been running a 25 year war in the Middle east that's been driving these people out. At the same times, our politicians are influenced by some people to open up our borders and take the people that we're driving out of their homeland. And now they're here disrupting your life, and you're mad at them, but pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. And then they go, that's anti Semitic. And I go, you know what? I'm just gonna do a podcast.
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David (Host)
I just got to admit, in my stupidity, in my naivete, I did not realize that it had reached this, the middle of the country like that. Because if you told me coastal regions had this issue with Somalians, I'd go.
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Matt (Co-host)
No, it's just very. I find it very funny because.
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David (Host)
Kind of funny out.
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Matt (Co-host)
Out here, there's. There. There will be like a. A base of people. Like, we've got to pray for the Republican Party.
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David (Host)
Yes.
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Matt (Co-host)
And we've got to get these damn muzzies out of here.
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David (Host)
Yeah.
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Matt (Co-host)
And then you go, what about, what about the Jews? And then they go, yeah, and then.
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David (Host)
They make the face. Make the face. Mattress.
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Matt (Co-host)
Make the face. Matt's making the face right now. He's in the room. It's like, okay, you got it. You got to think about all these things because, like, yeah, one is the. One is the sword, and one, well, what do they call it?
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David (Host)
The broom. And then, I don't know. I don't know. One is the plane and the other ones the towers. I don't know how the analogy works. I just know that it's very true. And, and, yeah, but I just didn't know that it was. Because I'm, I'm right there with you. I'll scoff at the Muslim thing, but I'm like, dude, they're blasting Michigan. Yeah, dude, that's crazy.
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Matt (Co-host)
Kind of.
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Laura Baker
They're doing it In Texas. They're doing it here too. They. They're. They're building. They're building this place called Epic City. And supposedly the governor is now trying to shut it down because they bring in. They put all their names on the street signs of, of their, their leaders and their gods and stuff like that. Okay, well, that's. Those are words you got to remember. Everything in this, in this realm is built off of vibration and frequency. And when you see, when you see words or statues or things being raised up in a country, that means the. Literally those things are raising up in our country. You see this, this 90 foot tall Hanneman monkey man statue that was put up in. There you go. Then they, then they put another one up. Yeah, that's in Texas. Yes, sir. They're bringing their presence. Big monkey man, Hanneman. Yep. It's a. It's a Hindu God. Yeah, there you go. Epic City. And it's the whole thing. I mean, it's not just a neighborhood. It's. It's an entire planned community. And what they're doing is they're making their mosque and their footprints all throughout the United States bigger and bigger. Where that influence like, like the up in Dearborn, Michigan where you were talking about, man, they, the cops and stuff, they don't even go in there. That is like their own country. That is their country. And Sharia law is what resides there.
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David (Host)
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Laura Baker
And, and you see that spilling over and, and it's popping up elsewhere and it's infiltrating. It's infiltrating. So, you know, right under our noses too. And you are going to see this. And there's a scripture that says, when the harvest is ripe, it tells an angel, put in the sickle and reap. Y' all remember that?
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David (Host)
Is this.
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Laura Baker
Why is he put. Why is he putting in a sickle? Think about it. Why is he putting in a sickle? To reap souls for our kingdom. He's bringing king. He's bringing Christian souls into the kingdom with a sickle. That's showing the form of judgment. This. This is. This is. That's right. This is when Top is getting it. Whenever. Whenever the harvest is ready. The harvest of souls and the harvest of the Lord always follow the. The harvest. I don't know if y' all study the festivals of the Lord. The feast of the Lord in the spring and then Pentecost and then the ones in the fall. Okay, well, it's. It's a pattern. It's a pattern.
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Matt (Co-host)
Trumpets, right?
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David (Host)
Oh, yeah. The feast of Trumpets. Speculating that that was going to be the Rapture.
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Matt (Co-host)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Laura Baker
Or when the return of the Lord does happen, it accompanies the seventh trumpet with this blast that is called the Takia Haga dole. It is like the loudest. The loudest mega blast you've ever heard. And. And so they. A lot of people, scholars say that his return will be on the feast of Trumpets. That's why they correlate it to that. But, yeah, then there's the day of atonement, and then there's the feast of Tabernacles. And whenever in the feast of tabernacles is associated with the harvest of the wine, the grapes. Right, the grapes and the. The in gathering of all the rest of the fruit that was still left out there. So fruit and vegetables. So it tells you that in the wine press of God's wrath, that the blood will be up to the horse's bridle. Okay, so that's a harvest. Yeah, that's a harvest. That's during the wine or the. The. The harvest season. The third one. The third harvest. Okay, so that's what it's correlating it to. But you have to ask, why is there an angel harvesting souls for the kingdom of God with a sickle? That's because the method is going to involve a sickle. So think about that. You see what I'm saying? The Lord just dropped that, my spirit, just recently. And you've got the Jews with their guillotine, you know, Noah Hyde law thing coming. And then you've got the Islamic sickle. You know, them and their method. That's the way. That's their method.
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David (Host)
That's interesting too, because their blade is like a scimitar, which is. It's a curved blade. Like that's the symbol of, or, you know, one of their symbols.
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Matt (Co-host)
So you think. You think that.
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David (Host)
That.
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Matt (Co-host)
That this movement that's growing in the United States is. That's going to create the resurgence. And it's like, I guess there's an angel that is. I Don't know, like a dominion behind that power, behind that movement that's coming. Is that angel specifically on one side or the other, just instructed to do.
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Laura Baker
No, the, the angel in the Bible, to me sounds like a good angel, but he's being commanded to reap, reap souls from the earth for us. And he. But what he's told to do is put in the sickle and reap. So, but I think they say the harvest is ready, the harvest is ripe. Put in the sickle and reap. Now, this isn't going to be everybody because you've got a whole nother picture of the remnant. And, and this is in the book of Joshua. And he says, sanctify yourselves. He's telling all of the congregation, they're like a million strong. He says, sanctify yourselves. The priesthood's going to go out before you guys with the ark, but you need to stay 2, 000 cubits away. To me, that's 2,000 years. You're watching, you're waiting 2,000 years. Okay, let the priesthood go out before you. They're carrying the ark. These are going to be the people of God that are carrying the power of God. They've been tested many times because whatever comes out of their mouth will be able to slay a man that quick, right? So they, they have to, they know how to be careful with that. So they're, they're carrying the ark. They, they go to the Jordan, and it says the Jordan is always overflowing at the harvest. So it's the harvest time, same time, right? It's a harvest season. And then they go into the river with which the Jordan represents death. It's where people go to die because they go to get baptized in the Jordan. The old man dies and the new man comes up, right? So when you're crossing over into the promised land, you have to cross that, that barrier. Death, you know, the old man dies, the new man's born, so that the priesthood, they put their foot, put their first foot in the Jordan and the, the water start backing up all the way to a town called Adam. Now, and I'm going to write about this at some point, but this is a picture of the bloodline, of all the iniquity in our bloodlines being pushed back, all the way back to Adam so that we can cross over into the, the promised land. But the reason I'm bringing it up is because it's during the harvest. It literally says it in the story. It's during the harvest season that the Jordan overflows its banks. And so this priesthood are going to be kind of like your Elijah people, your forerunner people that go out before they're. I think it's going to be like the 144, 000. They say if you're not one, you need to find one and get behind them because they're going to be walking in the power of the Lord. So, so you get, you get these 144, 000 people that, that go up against the Antichrist. And there's a scripture that says the Antichrist at one point is overcoming the saints. And then there's another scripture that talks about the saints are overcoming the Antichrist. So you're going to have a dual, you know, dichotomy going on where, where there people are going to die. But that's why they need to be. You're seeing a lot of people come to the Lord right now. And, and I do believe that the, because the harvest is getting close, the harvest season is getting close and it's gonna be okay because they don't die. They transition. And that's why I tell people, explain that to your kids. You know, don't be afraid of what's coming. We don't die. We're in, we're in Christ. We just. Your, your conscious goes to your spiritual state, which is not a hologram. We've been taught that spiritual means like hologram, like. And we're thinking that doesn't sound very fun. No, it's not. Jesus was eating food. I mean he had a digestive tract, but he's walking through walls. He's walking on water. He had a spiritual body that was not limited to the three. The, the limitations of the 3D realm couldn't contain that. So it's a, it's a, you know, you have fewer limitations with the spirit body. And I'm all about it because it doesn't age. You know, you look good. You know, you look like Yalls age. For the rest of your life you don't have to worry about wrinkles and getting old. And like me, you know, you get older and you're thinking, oh God, but it's gonna be, it's gonna be glorious. It's gonna be scary, it's gonna be awesome. It's gonna be everything. But if you're in Christ, you don't have anything to worry about.
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David (Host)
Well, I, I definitely agree on that. On that idea that you touched on where a lot of people are coming to Christ. You know, we've, we've seen this. I don't know what to make of it. Sometimes I get a little confused. I go, is it because I'm hyper focused on a thing that. That's what I'm seeing now, which, which does tend to happen. But then if you look at events on the world stage, you know, it seems pretty obvious to go like, yeah, things have been shaken up in such a way, especially after 2020, I think was the big kickoff for that. It woke a lot of people up, which, you know, is a good thing. But in your woken up state, you're kind of in this like, spiritual infancy where you could be taken advantage of because you've not got your bearings about you. If you, if you, if you have to come to the conclusion, like there's more to life than just the physical and there's some great shift that's taking place, if you've not been aware of that thing on the horizon for some time, well, then somebody could feasibly slip in and say, well, let me explain to you the nature of this thing that's happening. And if they seek to deceive you, well, you're ripe for the deceiving. So in this moment now, where everybody is, is coming to Christ and this is the, it's been the conversation a lot on this show and, and we touched on it earlier and it's something that I said in a previous episode. It's like, are you moving towards maybe even a caricature of Christ? Right? Like, what does that look like? It's going to the 500013 SIS. And I'm not knocking it, I'm just saying like, maybe that's the scaffolding in your mind. Well, that's what this looks like. So I'm gonna go and do that. And, and Z Man. I saw Shout out to Z Man in the chat. He said it earlier. We were talking about Christian nationalism. It's like Christian nationalism is going to get some people through the door and some of those people are going to be earnestly seeking the Lord and, and it'll just be part of their journey. You know, I, I am stumbling constantly and if I look back to a year ago, I was oriented badly, poorly, and, and, and I've since like kind of corrected. And I'm sure there's still a lot more work to be done to say that somebody else's path isn't going to include maybe a, maybe a Christian nationalism, maybe even a Fuentes type of character or, or a Candace Owens, who we, you know, we, we give a lot of shit to, but it's like Yeah.
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Matt (Co-host)
I mean, look what led us here.
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David (Host)
Antisemitism and, you know, a plethora of other things. So. But I, I think right now what's really clear is we're in it. We're in like a legitimate battle for the souls of people where it was a passive war, you know, and how many years ago now it's like a hot one. It's like a hot war where, you.
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Matt (Co-host)
Know, reading scripture on Tim Cast, Shane.
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David (Host)
Cashman's reading scripture on Tim Cast. And, and you know it in that way there's a sense of urgency. And I don't want to be the guy that says that because so many guys have said it, but it's like that to me is paired up with this concept of time being short. That sense of urgency is like, well, why is there urgency? Because time is short. That's, that's, that's how I feel. And I guess I've always felt that way. But like lately it really feels ramp up.
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Laura Baker
It's all ramping up, you know, in a huge way.
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David (Host)
In a huge way it is.
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Laura Baker
All right. And to, to that Corobo, I would say the, the biggest thing that people need is to be filled with the Holy Spirit. And they don't ask for that. They don't. They're not taught to. They're just taught to say a prayer and go get water baptized. And the Holy Spirit is where it's all at. I mean, that's where. But it says that the Holy Spirit is given to those who are obedient. So if you're, you know, if you're not obedient, you're not going to get filled with the Holy Spirit because it would just grieve him. You're just constantly grieving him. And he, he can handle a lot of grief, you know, because look at the. Of us. So he can handle a lot of grief. But if people that are like, well, I don't feel like, you know, I don't know that I'm getting filled with the Holy Spirit. I don't speak in tongues and you know, and I can't speak in tongues and all that. Some people don't speak in tongues and, and it says that, but they know that they're filled with the Holy Spirit. And you see all the fruits of the Spirit in their life. You shall know them by the spirit, by the fruits.
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Laura Baker
And matter of fact, a lot of my friends, when they used to trust Trump, they said, well, he's a Christian. He, he said that. And I said, you can't trust what comes. God didn't tell us that you shall know them by their words. He said, you shall know them by their fruit. You got.
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David (Host)
I just want to say on that topic, the, the whole thing where he said, we talked about this a bunch of times, but, man, if you listen to that guy, he goes like, beautiful Christians, I love the Christians. And then he goes like, I'm not a Christian. And he's. And if you slow it down, you can see. And people are like, no. He says, I'm a Christian. He's just got a weird inflection. The tell for me will always be, when you watch that video, he shakes his head no when he says it.
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Laura Baker
No.
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David (Host)
And that no correlates with what sounds like not. I mean, it's like he's, he's, he's got a, A, an inflection, an accent, a way of speaking that allows for these slips, these little sneaky moments where I'm like, wait a second. And, and it's, it's kind of beautiful because what it does is it allows for that speculation where, like, half of you will say, no, that's not what he said. And the other half will be like, no, he said it. He said he's a Christian. And so I, I look at that, though, and I look at the body language surrounding it, and he goes, I'm not a Christian. I'm like, that dude. And then what is he doing? I've never heard him, him pray to Jesus Christ. He prays to the archangel, you know, Michael and, and, and a number of other things, but he doesn't talk about Christ. I, I haven't heard it. Maybe it's out there. Maybe I haven't been, you know, paying much attention, but I've not heard that yet.
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Laura Baker
He, he said it a couple of times, but he was also interviewed years ago and on a stage. And the guy said, have you ever repented? And he danced all around the answer for a good two or three minutes. And the guy said, okay, but have you ever repented? And he goes, you know, I Don't. I don't think that I have. He goes, I just try to do better. And he goes, I don't bring God into that. Okay.
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David (Host)
Wild.
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Laura Baker
Hello. That is foundational to repentance is the first step for our religion, for our. Well, I hate to even call it religion. It's not a religion. It's, you know, for the truth, for our kingdom. Repentance is the first step. And he. He admitted that he doesn't know. He doesn't repent. He doesn't think he needs to. So, no, he's not a Christian. And. And then there's information out there that says that his, his kabbalist teacher's name was Eitan something. Right.
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David (Host)
I gotta look this up real quick. It's. It's like his mentor. I forget. And this guy was like, clearly a debaucherous occultist, kind of a character trust mentor. Oh, Roy.
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Laura Baker
Kabbalism, right? Oh, no, that's. That's not the name I saw. The name I saw was A, E, I T E N something, E, I T A N ayton something. And it was in a book. It was in one of his books, I believe. And, and so. But yeah, there's all kinds of fishy stuff that shows you. Not only that, I mean, come on, you, you. You gotta know that Freemasonry is running this whole earth.
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David (Host)
Oh, yeah.
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Laura Baker
You don't get a platform or a big position unless you're. You've sold your soul and they put you in that. You're. They're not elected, they're selected, just like the popes. It's all rigged. It's all set up. It's a system. It's a king.
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David (Host)
We were talking to Canary Cry Radio, who are wonderful guys, and, and they do great work, and they even said there was like, there was a time that, you know, an opportunity showed itself and all we had to do was slap on a MAGA hat and, and run that whole thing, you know, and they could have been part of the team, Big maga influencer. And they didn't take that. And thank God they didn't take it because I'm sure, you know, it's like, as a. You're a podcaster and, and we're all just living normal lives. And to any person that could look tempting if you don't have in perspective what you are jeopardizing when you do that sort of a thing. And, and, you know, the fact that you're going against God. But it was there, you know, it was that opportunity just put on the, the maga hat, which means whatever highest level of Satan, Satanism or whatever. In the Church of Satan, the highest ranking position you can get is called maga, I believe. But yeah, yeah, so it's, it's always, you know, all over there. But man, it is, it's, it's a weird kind of deception that, that he runs and it's, it's very, and yeah, people who say that this country was, was founded on Christian values, it's like, no, this, this country was founded on Masonic values, you know, freemasonic values and there is certainly a big Christian influence in the culture. But that's not what built dc. That's not what founded this country. It wasn't, it wasn't Christianity.
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Matt (Co-host)
It was the facade of.
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David (Host)
Yeah, it's the facade. Where is Christianity. And, and I'm not saying that that doesn't then actually get a real Christian populace. You know what I mean? I don't know what that looked like, you know, all those years ago, but I do believe because it's still there now. You know, Christianity is still here now. But that's not what erected the, the phallic symbols in Washington D.C. that's not what laid the streets out to look like a pentagram or the owl of Min. You know, that's, that's just not, that's not what painted George Washington on the ceiling in this, in the, in the, in the pose of the Baphomet.
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Matt (Co-host)
You know, that's what makes your book so, so interesting because you have kingdom versus Kingdom. But like these kingdoms are. I have a feeling they're going to look really close, really similar. It's a counterfeit to one another. And it's like I, Yep. I think the deception for people when, when it, when, when it comes time to make a decision, the deception is going to be like, well, what do I choose? Because like if they don't have a strong foundation, a biblical foundation and what. Exactly what they know, they're going to see a thing and it's going to look really close to what they should do.
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David (Host)
Yeah, yeah, that's hard.
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Laura Baker
And, and there. No one's going to sit on the fence. Nobody's going to be sitting on the fence. They're, they're going to be. Jesus is going to spew them out. If they don't choose our kingdom, he's going to spew them out on the other side and they can fight their way through it. But, but you're right, Top. I mean, we've got it. That's why I wrote it. Or that's why I feel like he wrote it through me. Because I, I pray in the Spirit and fast and receive like kind of the overview. But he is the One. The Holy Spirit is the One who puts everything together, organizes it, shows me all the Scriptures because it's loaded with scripture to prove what I'm saying. And, and it's to get people to start thinking now because once they say you can't buy or sell without a mark, and all of these systems that we're embedded in all of a sudden are going to be, poof, goodbye, you're going to completely flip out unless you are grounded in Christ. Those that are grounded in Christ are going to be like, it's okay, we knew this day was coming. You know, we can do this. The Lord. The Lord is our provider. The show isn't our provider. The Lord is. And the, the, the, the cops, the local cops are not our protector. The Lord is. And you, you need to know words. You need to know the words of God so that you can speak, speak in, in faith and release words that are promises that he will never leave nor forsake you. That, you know, when your kids are pulling on you and they're scared and they're asking you, what do we do? And you say, hey, don't, don't worry. The Lord says he'll never leave nor forsake us. You remember that, that, that gives a kid something to hang on to when they're scared. Right? So you gotta, we have to, you know, we have to at least start thinking about these systems and what do they look like and how entrenched are they? I mean, we've got Alexa and, you know, all this stuff all over our house, and we're so used to going and getting a coffee, you know, this, you know, five seconds and, you know, getting whatever we want, groceries, whatever we need. We don't think about having to grow stuff, doing without things, going without air conditioning or heat, you know, things like that. Because how are you going to pay those bills? How are you going to get your medication?
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David (Host)
I said in the past that if you, if the reason I believe that you see a high prevalence of women in like witchcraft or pagan circles is because women being the weaker sex, let's say something happens. For example, that's the example that I like to use in the past. It's like a village is.
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Matt (Co-host)
The harvest isn't plentiful.
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David (Host)
Right? Well, let's say a village is, is run over and destroyed and some of the women escape and they escape into nature. They don't have the ability half the time to be able to hunt and build shelter and all these things. And so in their desperation, they will often, once you, you know, you start to fade and you start to starve and you're out in the woods and you're desperate, these spirits will reveal themselves to you and these women will often have an encounter. And then after that encounter, they will start to commune and worship and exchange with this spirit offerings, this and that. And then what happens is they start to get some modicum of success and then they're able to survive. But it's. It, it's something that's birthed out of desperation. What happens when you take an entire population who is used to expedients and convenient and you strip that away from them and you watch people immediately become desperate. We're not hardened like the people of old. We don't have all the skills that Laura was just talking about to harvest our own food or to hunt or do any of these things. And I think during that time, you know, you, we're seeing an unironic rise in paganism, currently. Norse enjoyers, Greek enjoyers, whatever. You're going to see that much more if these spirits decide to start revealing themselves to people during their moment of desperation. Human beings that aren't grounded in Christ when they're desperate will turn to whatever odds they, you know, whatever means they can to, to, to survive. And so I think, yeah, that's, that's where things are. I mean, you want to see somebody, there's going to be people that are going to know that this is the mark of the beast and whose conviction will fail them. And out of the sake of convenience, I'm sure it will happen. Will turn to it and get it anyway, you know, so it's. Desperation is a.
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Laura Baker
You'll see the worst of humanity. Yeah, you'll see the worst of humanity. If they're not rooted in, in Christ and they have something to turn to, then they, they're left to their own, you know, and it's a hopeless. If it looks like a hopeless situation, then they go into just, you know, crazy thinking because you, you hear them, I mean, even talking about like these people that they took away their. What do you call it? Their free food and stuff. What do you call that?
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David (Host)
Oh, yeah, yeah, like the SNAP benefits or whatever. Like, yeah, food, food, food stamps type of deal.
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Laura Baker
And they're like, I'm gonna get mine, I'm gonna get mine. You know, they're gonna, they're gonna do whatever they've got to do to get theirs and the get nothing. It's not even hard to get food right now. I mean, like, just go work and earn some money. So imagine when it's, you know, when it's bad all over and people are completely psychoed out there. Especially like women, even women will lose it if they have to feed their kids. They're going to lose it. They're going to do whatever they got to do to feed their kids, you know, so. And in your heart. My heart breaks for people like that because I get the, I get where they're at. But, but if you're rooted in Christ and you have the word to turn to and you know, at one point Jesus said they're trying to get him to eat. They're saying, master, eat some food. And he says, and he's telling them no. And he says, I have food that, you know, not of. He is eating spiritually. He's, he's being fed spiritually and his spirit is feeding the rest of him. So it's not working from the outside in. It's working from the inside out. And when you understand these.
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David (Host)
I'm sorry, go ahead, Laura. I didn't mean to interrupt.
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Laura Baker
Well, no, I was just going to say when you understand these spiritual concepts, it, it's a game changer big time.
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David (Host)
Because you have, I've been, Something has been on my mind and I guess I should say it here on the show because if I don't say on the show, it just kick the ball around and then, and then it won't happen. But I have been thinking on this idea, like, how do we. No, no, not a dream. It's not a dream. Dream.
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Matt (Co-host)
Okay, my bad.
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David (Host)
But how do we, how do we give back? Right? Like, what are we called to do? Take care of orphans and widows and things of that nature.
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Matt (Co-host)
And I'm a big fan of not liking ministry. Like, yeah, I don't know why. And it's probably wrong.
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David (Host)
Well, I mean, I guess because it's been tainted in so many ways. I mean, you have this whole upbringing in the church that I, I, I haven't experienced.
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Matt (Co-host)
But, but I think you're right.
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David (Host)
I, I do think that we've been blessed over and over again. And what are we supposed to do with this? I mean, it's, you know, we're building this studio and we're doing these things and that's good because the bigger it gets, the more people we could reach. And every day we get these emails about strengthening their relationship with God or helping them to realize that they were wrong in their atheism or any, anything like that.
- [108:01]
Matt (Co-host)
Somebody came in today and we missed them.
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David (Host)
No, I didn't miss them.
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Matt (Co-host)
Oh, good for you.
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David (Host)
How about that? I showed up. But. But, you know, so I have a lot. I have enough. And so we're thinking, why don't we do a thing?
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David (Host)
And I don't know when this episode is going to air. Probably in a couple of days because we're only like two or three episodes behind or something like that. So I don't know if we should set something up or if maybe we should do it for email. But what I want to do is I want to do like a food pantry. And I was kind of worried. I'm like, what happens when we, because our, our audience does turn up and.
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Matt (Co-host)
We get feed the filthy pores.
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David (Host)
Well, well, because what I was concerned about is we live in a pretty well to do area. However, I see homeless people every damn day. So I'm like, maybe if we're, if we do a food pantry and we're here in this wonderful spot in the standard coffee shop and we can print out some flyers and Matt just won't stop talking to people that come in here. So maybe he can say, hey, we're gonna do a food pantry here in a week.
- [109:33]
Matt (Co-host)
We're gonna edit out every mention of the name.
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David (Host)
Matt, I know we gotta stop talking about it, but he just, he does, he does a great job. I will say he does a great job of harassing people that come in here and asking them all kinds of personal questions. And so instead we could say, hey, Matt, why don't you let them know that we're gonna do an outreach thing? We're gonna do a, a food pantry and we're gonna try to feed some, some people out here. Even though there's a, there's a lot of money and there's a lot of people that are well to do. This is where we are, so this is where we'll do it. And then I was like, dude, what if we get. Because our audience always, really, like, helps. And then we have, like, all this food and we feed, like, three homeless people. We'll just donate the rest to, like, a local shelter. We'll just like, here. Or maybe we'll go through the church. Maybe we'll go through. Because we have a thing at the church, but whatever. So I just wanted to make the audience aware. This is something that we're gearing up to do. I think it's the right thing to do. There's hungry people here. It's the holiday season. It's the holidays. So maybe we can, you know, help somebody get, like, diapers and stuff like that too. Whatever. So, yeah, just. Just putting that out there.
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Matt (Co-host)
This is a ministry.
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David (Host)
Don't say that. It's a couple of retardos with a microphone who. I'm just trying to do give away.
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Matt (Co-host)
Food and, well, you know, diapers.
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David (Host)
I'm gonna eat some of it. If there's like, sweets.
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Laura Baker
I understand what Top is saying because there's a lot of ministries that, that have corrupted and. Or been corrupted. And, you know, they. You find out someone that you gave hundreds or even thousands of dollars to, and then later on you find out that they're. They're actually like the CEO and the next person down. The next person down are. Are all making figures that are unbelievable amounts of money. And then you find out the. The portion that you were given that you were giving to the cause you thought you were giving to. Actually, there's only like 10 is going to that and the rest is going to who knows what. So there's. That's, you know, I get what Top saying, ministry can be bad, but there's some good ones, too. There's good.
- [111:36]
David (Host)
What this is.
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Matt (Co-host)
Well, David's car. We're not sure if it will start today.
- [111:39]
David (Host)
No, it does. It starts. I figured out how to, like, if I rev the engine before I cut it off and I prime the. The fuel lines. If I prime the fuel line lines, it has a really good chance of starting up the first time. It won't. But then I let it rest and then I fire it up again. You know what it really is? Push to start sucks. Because if you have a turnkey, you can prime the fuel lines. But if it's pushed to start, it just wants to fire up.
- [111:59]
Matt (Co-host)
It's a safe ministry anyway.
- [112:00]
David (Host)
We're not keeping any of the money. All of it is going to go.
- [112:03]
Matt (Co-host)
Towards food and blue letter Bible.
- [112:05]
David (Host)
And blue letter Bible and then whatever doesn't get picked up here, which I Guess there's no harm. We could run it for multiple days or whatever. Just keep setting the table up and keep. But then if we're left with a bunch of food, I'll just eat it all. No, no, we'll just go to either the local shelter or our church and just donate.
- [112:23]
Laura Baker
Donate.
- [112:24]
David (Host)
But I think it just makes more sense to just go to a shelter and just be like, here, just take this stuff. And then if they go, thank you for your ministry. We'll say, don't call it that.
- [112:32]
Laura Baker
Don't call it out. Not a ministry, y'.
- [112:34]
David (Host)
All.
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Laura Baker
Yalls ministry is your show. Your show is your ministry. Your show. It is a ministry. You're. You're. You're actually, you know, you're using the kingdom inside of you and you. Yeah, look at top. Look at top.
- [112:52]
David (Host)
Oh, God, so disappointed.
- [112:54]
Laura Baker
Look, you're so bad. You're in trouble now, buddy.
- [112:58]
David (Host)
I want to bring it in for a landing, Laura, and. And I hope that you will. I really, sincerely mean it. We'd love to have you here for Bohemian Grove. I still don't know what the second day is going to look like. Yes, I know. It's a bad injector. Somebody says it's a bad injector. It's a multitude of things. It's a bad fuel pump. It's a gunked up fuel filter. And my injectors are probably going because of that. Anywho. But I just keep dumping that thing that you buy from Wawa, the fuel injector cleaner. I dump that too often and it's going to explode soon.
- [113:29]
Matt (Co-host)
So.
- [113:29]
David (Host)
So I would love to get you down here, though, because like I said, we're trying to. To do something different.
- [113:36]
Matt (Co-host)
I. I'm like an NDS experience instead.
- [113:40]
David (Host)
Of a race rally.
- [113:41]
Matt (Co-host)
Well, I mean, listen, we let other people host their own shows. Like, basically, we did our. Our show and it was like one hour.
- [113:49]
David (Host)
Yeah.
- [113:49]
Matt (Co-host)
Of just what we do, which we.
- [113:51]
David (Host)
Crushed, by the way. And everybody loved it.
- [113:52]
Matt (Co-host)
It was great. We're the best. But then everyone else did their own thing. This one is just going to be basically more of, like, what we do so that way things don't go off the rails. I want it to be cohesive. And if. If I'm gonna do a live event, I want it to make sense to whatever we're. To our ministry, to the show.
- [114:10]
David (Host)
It's got to be. It's got to be true to Nephilim Death Squad and. And people like you, people like Ed Mabry and a multitude of other people have really helped us to. Because this show has always just been about finding our way and. And trying to. I don't know, try. Try to find the truth. Right. And. And this is where we've oriented. And it's because of people like you guys. So I don't know what the hell you're in for, Laura. I can't make any promises in that regard, but I can promise you that you'd be well received.
- [114:42]
Matt (Co-host)
Why do you say that for?
- [114:43]
David (Host)
Well, because I don't even know what we're doing. Like, I have. I have some idea.
- [114:47]
Matt (Co-host)
I know exactly what we're doing.
- [114:48]
David (Host)
Hell yeah, dude. That's what's up. I like that. You know.
- [114:50]
Matt (Co-host)
All right, well, just. I'll explain it right here since we're here. Day one.
- [114:53]
David (Host)
Yeah.
- [114:54]
Matt (Co-host)
Is going to be a fun time in the coffee shop here. A VIP experience. You guys can come in. Don't touch the cameras, but don't come look around.
- [115:01]
David (Host)
Yeah.
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Matt (Co-host)
And then we're. Don't touch us a lot. Definitely no judge this. Yes. That's David's face. He likes that. Live Bible study in the back with Ed Mabry and Matt Hepner. It'll be like a hybrid Bible study where we talk about stuff. The next day is going to be at a venue which I. We're working on. Which one. But it will be a really nice venue. Not like the one that we went to last time.
- [115:22]
David (Host)
That was a respectable and nice venue.
- [115:24]
Matt (Co-host)
It had a hole in the ceiling.
- [115:25]
David (Host)
It was good. Smelled weird, too.
- [115:27]
Matt (Co-host)
Yeah. The guy was wearing a red.
- [115:28]
David (Host)
That's my dad.
- [115:29]
Matt (Co-host)
Don't you disparage my father wearing red suede. Yeah. It's gonna be three shows, most likely, so an interview type of Nephilim death Squad, a chronicles type of Nephilim death Squad, and then like a more of a hang type of Nephilim death squad that I like to do.
- [115:45]
David (Host)
Like a nephew America. Right. Like, this time we'll actually bring topics and stuff because we thought about doing that last time, but we got caught up with, like, audio, video, losing a venue, hating the Jews. It was a whole thing. Yeah. And so. But this time we're really going to be zeroed in. We love it.
- [115:59]
Matt (Co-host)
We love the Jews.
- [116:00]
David (Host)
We love the Jews. I realize that. Blessings upon the Jews. I hope that they realize that Jesus Christ is their Lord and savior and that they screwed it up the first time, but they don't have to do it again. It was really him, guys. It was really him, so. So I really do hope that you come because it's going to be Fun. It's going to be fun. And it just. It would mean a lot to us. To us.
- [116:19]
Laura Baker
I would love to. As long as the man upstairs okays it, then I will be there. I gotta pray on it.
- [116:27]
David (Host)
Okay, Laura, that's. I'll take that. That's. That's exactly. Okay, so where can people find your book? Where can people find your work? And, and then we'll. We'll get you out of here.
- [116:37]
Laura Baker
Okay, so cleansingthebloodline.com is my website. Cleansing the Bloodline on Telegram. I have all my videos and then my books. You can click on my. Right there on my website or you can go to Amazon and, and their ebooks and the paperbacks also.
- [116:58]
David (Host)
Awesome. Awesome. Communion with the King. Roots of Iniquity. Let's scroll up real quick. What was the other one? Divinely Delivered from the King of Rebellion. And then the new one is Kingdom against kingdom, right? Yes, Kingdom against.
- [117:10]
Matt (Co-host)
I have to pick this one up. Yeah, we don't have this one. Get. Get a paper copy.
- [117:14]
David (Host)
We have to get it in the, in the studio or in the, in the library.
- [117:18]
Matt (Co-host)
Well, this one was in the library. Yeah, we put your. We put this book here in the library. The Roots of Iniquity. So, you know, the people that come by, if they want to read it, it's. It's up there. But we'll put this one up, up there as well.
- [117:28]
David (Host)
If. If God says it's a good idea to come down. Will you sign our books, Laura?
- [117:33]
Laura Baker
I absolutely will. I would love to. And by the way, y' all were talking to Bennett the other day on Broadcasting Seeds, and you were talking about the difference between the body, the soul and the spirit. This new book has a chapter on that. And that blue book, Divinely Delivered, that has a chapter on that. So next time you're sick and you're laying around the house or whatever, grab that and you can learn the difference between the body, the soul and spirit.
- [118:02]
David (Host)
That's awesome. That's actually really fascinating because that, but it, you know, to somebody who doesn't. Isn't aware that there's a difference, you might just assume that it's the same thing.
- [118:11]
Laura Baker
And you have to know that you have to understand that that is. That is one of the most critical aspects of a. Of us as a three part being to understand. You have to understand the difference between the three and the functionality of each one.
- [118:25]
Matt (Co-host)
Can we cover it really quickly before? Because I don't. I feel like we shouldn't end and.
- [118:29]
David (Host)
I also feel like, I don't know And I'd to like to know.
- [118:31]
Laura Baker
Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Okay. So you are a spirit. That's what you really are. You're. You're not a human on a spiritual journey. You are a spirit on a very short human journey. Okay? And your soul. Your soul is kind of like your personality. It's made up of your mind, your will, and your emotions. Okay? Now, in the soul, that's where you have wounds from traumas, you know, past events in your soul. And matter of fact, Bennett was talking about there being markers on the bloodline. I mean, on the DNA, there's markers that hold trauma. That's absolutely right. And that's why generation. Yes, true. Yeah, yeah. Doors and genes that turn on and turn off and things like that. He. I mean, he was even thinking of stuff that I've never thought of. He's. He's a deep thinker. I can tell. And I'd love to talk to him sometime, but. But I can't reach out to anybody because the Lord won't let me. He won't let me, like, advertise myself. So I have to just wait until people invite me on their shows, and then I have to go pray. So that's. I have to do it the Lord's way.
- [119:42]
David (Host)
I gotta ask you then, Laura, did the Lord put it on your heart to. To come here?
- [119:47]
Laura Baker
He.
- [119:48]
David (Host)
Yes.
- [119:48]
Laura Baker
No, you're. Y'. All. You guys are an open door for me. I've already been on. And Biblical Hitman Steven. I could go on his show. I love him too. I love him. He's. That guy's. Yeah, he's smart. That guy's smart.
- [120:02]
David (Host)
He's fantastic. Yeah, he's fantastic. That's a guy who is another one of those. Kind of a sleeper. And when he's on this show, our audience realizes he is excellent. That I can't wait until more people realize that because he's a. He's. He's a fantastic source of. Of not only information, but. But, you know, somebody that can help you along and. And. And volleyball you to Christ.
- [120:26]
Laura Baker
You know, he is. He's just a good guy. And he has incredible testimony too, but he's just a really good guy. But yeah, maybe he'll come too. To bohemian. I'll get to meet him because he lives.
- [120:37]
Matt (Co-host)
He'll definitely be here. Or else.
- [120:39]
David (Host)
Or else.
- [120:40]
Laura Baker
Awesome. Okay. Oh, my God. I feel like I'm coming home to my family. This would be awesome.
- [120:45]
David (Host)
That's. That's what I wanted. That's what I want. You're gonna love it, all the people that we're inviting and, and you know the audience that's gonna be, you're gonna love it, you're good. But as long as the Lord puts it on your heart to do that, which I pray that he does, because we could definitely use you in our corner.
- [121:00]
Laura Baker
Amen. Okay, so now the difference between the body, the soul and the spirit, the body is carnal. The mind, the carnal mind is in enmity against God. Demons reside in the flesh. So the physical part of you is going to go away, right? It goes back to the dust from where it came. But the other two, God is here to say Jesus came to save the soul. Okay? And he's going to give you a new body. He's going to give you an upgrade, you know, that doesn't rot like the one that we have now. That's riddled with sin, decay, death, degeneration, all those things are tied into the flesh. So the soul is the battlefield. The mind, will and emotions. The mind is the battlefield. That's why you've got the spirit. And the spirit is willing. It says the spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak. The flesh is weak because it's carnal. It's. That's where the demons reside. That's. Those are the fleshly appetites that can keep us connected to the world, right? And then the spirit always agrees with the word. Spirit always agrees with the word. And you want your spirit to become the biggest part of you.
- [122:17]
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- [122:35]
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- [122:47]
Laura Baker
And the way that you feed your spirit, your spirit eats and drinks one thing. Do you know what it is? The word. The word. Because Jesus was the word. There you go, you got it. Jesus was the word. And he said, eat my flesh, drink my blood. He's saying, what he's saying is eat and drink me. I'm the word. That's what it's like, Popeye. It's like your spinach for your spirit. It makes your spirit bigger and bigger and stronger to where your spirit becomes so strong it dominates your three part being. And when your Soul tries to rise up with emotions and you know, oh, you hurt my feelings or whatever your spirit was saying. Just, just cool it, just cool it and forgive them. Right? Because the spirit agrees with the word. Turn the other cheek if you, if you got anger rising up, I'm gonna kick his butt. And your spirit says, cool it, cool it. You're better than that. You can, you can do this, you can do that, you know, let it go. Your spirit is stronger when, when you say, oh, I'm gonna fast. And your flesh is like, no, oh my God, no, we can't go without food. Your spirit would say, yeah, we are. Sit down and shut up. And your spirit is running the show. Your spirit agrees with the Word. Your spirit is the strongest part of you. I fast. If I do a one day fast, it's not even a challenge. It's like, it's so easy because once your spirit becomes very strong, you walk and you operate by the spirit that is you. Progressing from a child of God to a son of God. The sons of God, that's where we're headed, the sons of God and the whole earth, the whole earth is groaning, waiting for the sons of God to manifest. Those are mature Christians that operate by their spirit. So the law was given as a guardian. It tells us that. The law was given as a guardian. That tells you the boundary lines of God's standards, like color inside the lines, you do good color outside of the lines, you're, you know you're going to get beat up. And he tells us, these are curses, these are blessings. Stay inside the lines, be obedient. You know, I'm telling you where the parameters are. And, but we don't do that because we've got rebellion and we've got idolatry and we've got pride and we've got all these things that pull us from the flesh in the wrong direction. But the stronger your spirit gets and the more light you get in you, you're getting light in you. When you read the Word, the more light you get inside of you and the stronger your spirit gets, the easier it is to hear God. The easier it is to get answers like this. The easier it is for like wisdom from above and godly counsel when you need to give advice to people. All of these things come from reading the Word. So it's all about chasing, eating, drinking, ingesting, inhaling, consuming the word and that becoming the biggest part of your three part being. Does that make sense?
- [125:49]
David (Host)
That's awesome. That actually helps quite a bit.
- [125:53]
Matt (Co-host)
Yeah, I was having trouble defining or differentiating between spirit and soul, but I think that that's a satisfactory answer and difference between the two.
- [126:02]
David (Host)
It's that thing that. Laura, when you said the fasting thing, and there's like this part of you that groans, especially me. I got a big food problem. And. And there is a part of me that knows. And then there's a part of me that groans and there's a part of me that agrees with the fasting. And. And then there's a part of me that groans. And these are different parts of me. And I, I think that the way you've laid it out here, those delineating lines, it could be very helpful. It's interesting how understanding does that, you know, makes things a little bit easier.
- [126:36]
Laura Baker
That's that I love the spirit of understanding. Out of the seven fold spirit of God. The spirit of understanding is almost never talked about. And it is absolutely critical to have that spirit pray. You know, people should pray for understanding. He tells us to pray for wisdom and pray for understanding. Because when you understand God and you understand his ways, it's so much easier to be a good person because you know why you're doing it. You know what I mean? You know why?
- [127:08]
Matt (Co-host)
The why, the why, the why, the why.
- [127:12]
Laura Baker
I'm a why girl. Yep. Everything. Everything I talk to the Lord about is why. Okay, but why? That why. And it's why. I know so much now because I've already asked him why for the last 15 years and I've got a lot of answers now. Now, but. And I guess he's, you know, and he's given me platforms through people like y' all to, to talk about it because his people need these answers. They need, they need to know why. It's not religion. It's understanding is what they need. They don't need religion. They don't need activities and church programs. That's all ridiculous. They need to read the Word and understand what they're reading so they can change their life. It's relationship.
- [127:53]
David (Host)
On the way here, like I said, I always, you know, I, I talk to God and I, I think there's a good combination for people. By the way, it's something that I'd like to pass on because Pastor Rick passed on to us this idea of inviting the Holy Spirit in. And the way that I do it is almost always like in three steps. It's like gratitude for Ellis. Gratitude just for. For everything. You know, rejoice in the day that the Lord has made and then repentance, you know, and, and you know, asking for forgiveness for all the horrible things. All the horrible things I said to Timothy Alvarino, all the horrible things I do and have done.
- [128:34]
Laura Baker
What was that about?
- [128:36]
David (Host)
I was. I was. I was busting his balls because he dresses like Indiana Jones. And really, that's just my insecurities, because if I dress like Indiana Jones, I'm a homosexual. Actual. If he dresses like Indiana Jones, he gets a book deal, and he's very cool, and that's fine, and I'm coming to terms with that. But it was a slight disagreement. It was a slight disagreement that he wasn't aware that we had, and it was like he was saying this thing. Whereas, like, if you call aliens demons, you're a podcaster who podcasts about Nephilim. Now that. I took that personally. I took that very personally, because I, as a retarded, podcast your podcast about Neville. And so I. I decided to dress like Indiana Jones and whip my bathroom mirror and proclaim that if you say aliens or demons, you're a. Somehow he thought that that was about him. I don't know why he would think that. And. And so he and I got into a little bit of a. A thing. He wants to have a debate. I actually think it would be great to have a debate. I'm not an intellectual. However, there I am whipping my mirror, and my wife is very mad because I knocked down a lot of things. And. But it was very fun. The whip. And. And. And. So, yeah, I mean, you know, I think that the debate will end up falling in a place where we agree on a ton of things. And. And even though I think that's the case, I think it should still happen, because in these times, I do think there's a great deception welling up in the form of some sort of. Of, you know, government disclosure, where they're going to parade out aliens to us. And people need to see these conversations. They need to hear this evidence laid out. And. And because a lot of people are going to fall for something really, really stupid if we go this direction. Really, really demonic. Not. Not specifically demons. Timothy Alvarino. I will concede, although I do think that the disembodied spirits of the Nephilim may have something to do with it. But I would say they are in. At. They are in opposition to our Lord. They are demonic in their nature. And when you say anyone who says they're demons is an idiot, to some people, that means remove that part of the conversation from the table, which is a huge mistake. A huge mistake.
- [130:48]
Matt (Co-host)
That part of the conversation is already safely removed from the table in common culture. So we were like, I think it needs to be a little bit more involved. I understand the idea of nuance that he's sort of trying to, but he. I don't know what he's.
- [131:01]
David (Host)
I'm just not sure that I see it. I'm not absorbing his. In his information.
- [131:05]
Matt (Co-host)
I can't get past the whip is the problem.
- [131:07]
David (Host)
You carry a whip in public? I think it's cool. I think it's cool. And, and I just want to be able to be afforded the same liberties. Yeah, the same liberties if I carry it. I'm an archaeologist.
- [131:19]
Matt (Co-host)
Laura, thank you for coming on. I'm sorry that.
- [131:22]
Laura Baker
No, you guys are so funny. You. That's what makes your show. You guys are hilarious.
- [131:27]
David (Host)
Thank you.
- [131:28]
Laura Baker
Very interesting.
- [131:28]
David (Host)
Timothy Albarino doesn't think so, but you know, hopefully, hopefully we can convert him, guys.
- [131:33]
Laura Baker
Well, he's still your brother in Christ, so he has to love.
- [131:37]
David (Host)
Amen. Amen. He's just a much cooler looking version than I am.
- [131:40]
Matt (Co-host)
Matt thinks that we're, we're like out to get him. And I keep, I keep reassuring Matt that yes, we are.
- [131:46]
David (Host)
I want to ask him for the past. Like, can I get, can you vouch for me when I dress like that in public? Would you mind?
- [131:52]
Matt (Co-host)
He better, you know. All right, listen, we got to bring this in for landing.
- [131:55]
David (Host)
Fine.
- [131:55]
Matt (Co-host)
That's fine, guys. Thank you for watching the show. Go buy all of Laura's books. Buy them in hard copy. I, I don't know if I hope you make more money in hard copy, but buy them in hard copy so that when they take away our digital rights or the electricity that we have.
- [132:08]
David (Host)
We have paper, we'll still know the difference.
- [132:11]
Laura Baker
And leave me reviews. I need reviews. People don't. People do not do reviews.
- [132:16]
David (Host)
Yeah, our listeners are great at that.
- [132:20]
Laura Baker
Really. Okay, great. Well, if they bought any of them, please leave reviews.
- [132:24]
David (Host)
Yeah, they've been doing it for the standard coffee shopping. So go, go and do it for, for Laura Baker, guys.
- [132:29]
Matt (Co-host)
That's right. And until next time, don't forget to obey, submit and comply. We'll see you later.
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- [132:45]
Laura Baker
The end is written in the book, in the pages. They for.
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