Meme Culture, Chaos w/ Ben of Bennis the Menace

Summary

Podcast Summary: Nephilim Death Squad Biblical Conspiracy

Episode: Meme Culture, Chaos w/ Ben of Bennis the Menace

Release Date: February 19, 2026
Hosts: David Lee Corbo (The Raven), Top Lobsta
Guest: Ben Bennis ("Bennis the Menace")

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Overview:

This episode dives deep into the intersection of biblical prophecy, meme culture, “elite” conspiracies (Epstein, Israel, Nephilim), and the challenge of Christian responsibility in a chaotic modern world. The hosts and guest critically examine current events—like the Epstein file releases, “alien” disclosure, and media normalization of evil—through a scriptural and skeptical lens, asking provocative questions about dispensationalism, the Israel narrative, and the nature of end times deception.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. Podcast Banter, Meme Culture, and Identity ([01:30]-[06:20])

• Casual introduction, jokes about Patreon "Mommy" and "Daddy" tiers.
• Bennis the Menace introduces his show: “We know nothing about anything. But we talk about everything.” (04:33, Ben)
• Reflection on the repetitive culture of podcast intros and guest rotation.

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2. Reality, Uncertainty, and Christian Certitude ([06:20]-[09:51])

• David: “In my loyalty to Jesus Christ, I’m certain… Everything else massively in flux.” (07:54)
• Discussion on how modern information cycles, scandals (Epstein), and the nature of reality generate deeper uncertainty—even among “conspiracy” thinkers.

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3. The Elite, Rituals, and Cultural Desensitization ([09:51]-[13:10])

• Discussion on the normalization and open discussion of once-taboo crimes and depravity among elites, particularly child sacrifice, as being “expected” behavior among those in power.
• Ben: “If you’re not in Christ, you’re a Satanist. The elites—some claim—descend from Nephilim bloodlines... Is it a surprise that they’re still doing sacrifices like back in the day? Not at all. It’s expected.” (07:55)

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4. Christian Conduct: Pacifism or Action? ([13:10]-[15:33])

• The hosts and Ben wrestle with scriptural directives: are Christians called to “rid the world of wickedness” or to focus on their own walk?
• Ben: “When it’s persecution, I don’t think we’re ever called to retaliate… I know where you’re at.” (13:47)
• The debate over the limits of activism, protest, and spiritual engagement.

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5. Mainstreaming Evil – Epstein at the Super Bowl & Controlled Disclosure ([15:33]-[20:21])

• Discussion of recent Super Bowl ad referencing Epstein’s trafficking, and speculation about “controlled release” of information.
• David: “It’s wild we live in a time where the Super Bowl might be the biggest platform for advertising sexual extortion.” (16:49)
• Ben argues this fits a Luciferian requirement for public disclosure before evil acts can proceed, and sees it as a sign of social conditioning and “frog boiling.”
• Ben: “They have to tell you what they’re doing, and if you don’t do anything about it— that’s on you.” (17:57)

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6. Accelerationism, Desensitization, and Meme Normalization ([20:21]-[24:43])

• Ben and David discuss the shrinking news cycle and how memes, jokes (even about Epstein being “based”), and internet culture are tools of normalization.
• David: “At what point do the jokes become a tool by which you normalize the sentiment?” (24:19)
• Ancient civilizations’ open child sacrifice is compared to modern “normalization.”

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7. Biblical Prophecy, Celestial Timing & Orchestrated Events ([27:14]-[31:54])

• A theory is explored that major world events (Pizzagate, Covid, Epstein disclosures) coincide with rare astronomical objects—as noted by New Age researcher Jordan Crowder.
• Hosts consider if elites time their actions with celestial events, attributing potential ritual or symbolic significance.

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8. Dispensationalism, End Times, and Manufactured Prophecy ([33:38]-[78:52])

What is Dispensationalism?

• Ben: Outlines the relatively recent origin (1830s, John Darby) and core tenets: God works in “dispensations”, rigid separation between Israel and the Church, pre-Tribulation rapture, etc.
• Critique: Many Christians accept these views by default without scriptural understanding:
  “You have to be influenced to see these things… That filter has been placed over your eyes.” (57:38)
• Discussion of pre-Trib rapture as modern comfort-seeking and “escapism,” not a biblical guarantee.
• Biblical passages analyzed (1 Thessalonians 4, Revelation 20); Ben urges humility: “There is a rapture, but putting it before the tribulation… That's dispensationalism.” (59:28)
• David: “Pre-Trib rapture is a lot of… cope. It’s representative of the softness… of modern-day people.” (61:32)
• Suffering as “refining fire”: “Whatever they’re lacking, only suffering can give it to them.” (65:05)

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9. Israel, Evangelicalism, and Prophecy Manufacturing ([83:21]-[126:22])

• Ben: Traces the American evangelical obsession with supporting Israel, often rooted in dispensationalist theology and political influence.
• Discusses:
  • Funding Third Temple, red heifers, fulfillment of prophecy by human agency—not divine.
  • The manipulative misuse of Genesis 12 (“bless those who bless Israel”) and the misapplication to modern nation-states.
  • Modern efforts: Israel funding evangelical leaders and churches, geotagging church events for influence, and mega-church complicity.
• Critical moment:
  “It’s not that they’re neutral on Jesus—they’re literally Antichrist… But we’ll take funding from them? This is the dumpster fire that is evangelicalism.” (91:45, Ben)

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10. The Alien Deception, Nephilim, and End Times Scenarios ([97:08]-[123:41])

• The link between UFO/Aliens and biblical “grand deception;” mainstreaming Nephilim lore (Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, etc.).
• Discussing dreams, visions, and paranormal experiences as possible foreshadowing or paradigm-shaping tools (e.g., “alien rapture” as a potential event to mimic prophecy).
• Ben presents the possibility that a fake rapture—including Christians and non-Christians—could be a strategic satanic deception sowing chaos in the church and society.
  • Ben: “If there is an alien pre-Trib rapture, and it's a hodgepodge of people that go up—pure chaos within the church.” (113:05)
• The crowd left behind might “flood to dispensationalist churches,” supercharging support for Israel and facilitating global Jewish supremacy narratives—playing directly into end times deception.

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11. Paradoxes & Self-Fulfilling Prophecies ([123:41]-[143:13])

• The show speculates if dispensationalists, by rushing to “fulfill” prophecy (via lobbying, funding Third Temple, etc.) are actually manufacturing the end times—making prophecy “true” by their obsession with it.
• Notion that biblical prophecy, human action, and demonic manipulation are all interwoven and accounted for in God’s sovereign view of history:
  • Ben: “Without dispensationalism, Israel would never exist as a nation. I actually think God incorporated the dispensational deception into his prophecy.” (78:52)
  • The “feedback loop” between prophetic text and world events (e.g., UN statue resembling Revelation beast) is evidence of this complex causal tangle.

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12. The Nephilim, Meme Culture, and the Mission ([131:02]-[135:06])

• Hosts wrestle with whether it’s responsible to keep talking about Nephilim, given the risk of their narrative being co-opted (by media, mainstream personalities, or even as a prepping of society for further deception).
• Ultimately, they conclude:
  • “We are the gateway drug... leading people into deeper truths. [Nephilim worldview] made the Bible make more sense to me... I hope to do for others what Heiser did for me.” (133:37, Ben)
  • The duty is to “point to Christ” despite the dangers of contributing to meme-driven normalization.

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13. Calls for Spiritual Clarity & Christian Focus ([143:13]-End)

• The “back to Christ” message is reaffirmed repeatedly: all explorations, all warnings, all deconstructions of modern corruption serve as means to point people toward the gospel of Jesus, rather than political or theological distractions.
  • Ben: “Instead of trying to unravel the Epstein files and aliens... All of that is a means, talking points to direct back to Christ.” (157:19)
• Blessing Israel is not about unconditional political support, but praying for the repentance and salvation of all nations (Isaiah 19:24).
• Final challenge: “When do we stop supporting Israel as Christians? ... At what point do we sit back and say, if I bless Israel at this point I’m going to be cursed, because they're doing Satan’s work?” (143:48, Ben)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “In my loyalty to Jesus Christ, I’m certain… Everything else massively in flux.” (07:54, David)
• “They have to tell you what they’re doing... if you don’t do anything about it—that’s on you.” (17:57, Ben)
• “Are we called to save the world? Or are we called to make disciples and let Christ redeem the world?” (13:10–13:59, David & Ben)
• “Pre-Trib rapture is... cope. It’s more representative of the softness of modern day people.” (61:32, David)
• “This is the dumpster fire that is evangelicalism… They are literally Antichrist.” (91:45, Ben)
• “Without dispensationalism, Israel would never exist as a nation... God incorporated the dispensational deception into his prophecy.” (78:52, Ben)
• “Everything that I’ve seen, I picked up that lens… if it didn’t keep yielding good fruit, I would have stopped.” (132:27, David)
• “All we need to do is try to get as many people to Christ as freaking possible… back to Christ, back to Christ, back. Every freaking time.” (157:36, Ben)

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Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |---------------|--------------------------------------------------------------------| | 04:09-05:13 | Introduction to Bennis the Menace & show philosophy | | 06:20-09:51 | Uncertainty in the modern world & firming up Christian foundation | | 13:10-13:59 | Christians: pacifism vs. “doing something” | | 17:57-20:21 | Luciferianism’s “mandatory disclosure” & the societal boil | | 24:19-24:43 | Normalization of taboo via meme/joke culture | | 33:38-39:46 | Christians ignoring the “Israel connection” in the Epstein story | | 66:21-69:05 | Western comfort & the atrophy brought by avoiding suffering | | 83:21-85:22 | Red heifers, constructing prophecy, and the Third Temple | | 97:08-113:05 | Alien deception, fake rapture scenario & potential church chaos | | 123:41-126:22 | Paradoxes of self-fulfilling prophecy, the “feedback loop” | | 131:02-135:06 | Continuing the Nephilim discussion, with humility and caution | | 143:13-End | The path forward: “all back to Christ”—limiting distraction |

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Tone & Style Notes

• The episode fluctuates between irreverent humor, deep eschatological speculation, and moments of heartfelt challenge to mainstream evangelical traditions.
• Language is direct and at times sardonic, but also openly self-critical and repentant, maintaining an accessible conversational tone.

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For Listeners New to the Show

This episode serves as both an introduction to the “Nephilim Death Squad” worldview and a sharp critique of some mainstream Christian and conspiracy tendencies. The central message, amidst all the chaos and speculation, is a repeated call to return to the core of Christian faith: “Back to Christ, back to Christ, back—every time.”

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Guest Info:
Ben Bennis (Bennis the Menace Pod) – Available on all platforms.

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Note: Timestamps are provided as MM:SS and reference the full production transcript (ads, intro, outros skipped).

Transcript

[David Lee Corbo]

I can't believe they're having a gender

[Ben Bennis]

reveal for their dog. No, no, no, no.

[David Lee Corbo]

This is a breed reveal.

[Ben Bennis]

Oh.

[David Lee Corbo]

So, yeah, they're finding out the breed of the puppy they're rescuing, so they could just be spending all their money on, like, pet insurance. Instead, we got lemonade for Roscoe and it covered vaccines, microchipping. We saved 90% on vet bills.

[Top Lobster]

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[Ben Bennis]

What do you think beige confetti means? I don't know.

[David Lee Corbo]

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[David Lee Corbo]

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[Top Lobster]

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[Ben Bennis]

They're still here today.

[David Lee Corbo]

When the last trumpet sounds and the heavens crack. Blah, blah, blah. Despot. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Nephilim Death Squad. I am David Lee Corbo, AKA the Raven, that is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation. Before we get into today's guest, we want to tell you guys where to give us money at patreon.com forward/nephilim death Squad. You can pay us there.

[Top Lobster]

Give us your money.

[David Lee Corbo]

Give us your money. Yeah, give us all your money.

[Top Lobster]

You can have. Here's our membership to yours. Yeah, I'll give you something in return.

[David Lee Corbo]

We'll give you.

[Top Lobster]

You can pay us on Mommy Nobody. One member at Mommy tier. Are you kidding me?

[David Lee Corbo]

A member at Mommy tier?

[Top Lobster]

Who's doing such a thing?

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, I think I gifted Mommy Tear to somebody.

[Top Lobster]

Oh, okay. And one member at Daddy too.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, I actually might have gifted my. My wife Mommy Tear.

[Top Lobster]

I'm not calling her mommy. You actually have to pay to get. All right, guys.

[David Lee Corbo]

Hey, wait a second. We got to tell them stuff. You know, last time when we were on somebody's show, Sean, and came in context, he did a fantastic job of promoting his brand. And I said, why do we always rush through our promotions?

[Top Lobster]

Because there's somebody sitting there.

[David Lee Corbo]

I understand that, but we were sitting there. You know what Sean said?

[Top Lobster]

What'd he say?

[David Lee Corbo]

Have patience.

[Top Lobster]

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[David Lee Corbo]

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[Top Lobster]

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[David Lee Corbo]

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[Top Lobster]

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[David Lee Corbo]

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[Top Lobster]

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[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

Grandma Maxing. Hat and shirt.

[David Lee Corbo]

Honestly, the beanie's a banger.

[Top Lobster]

Beanies are bangers.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

Go grab them, check it out, Let people know. Whatever. Okay, we have a great guest today. Introducing Ben Bennis the Menace.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, it's Ben. Ben. Ben is the Menace.

[Top Lobster]

I know. Dennis doesn't exist. He died.

[Ben Bennis]

Dennis actually works as a hospice chaplain, so he is currently working with death as we speak. You guys stepped in it.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, we just stepped in it. Before we get into today's show, Ben, let's talk about where people can find you and what your show and your work is all about.

[Ben Bennis]

Bennis the Menace pod, what is the work about? Oh, man, I don't know. Everything. Anything. We know nothing about anything. But we talk about everything. And we are Benis the Menace Pod on everything. You'll find it. It's not that hard. Guys, let me just say real quick, that was the most incredible intro video I've ever seen in my life.

[David Lee Corbo]

You like that, huh?

[Top Lobster]

Thank you.

[Ben Bennis]

I did. And also, the actual intro post video, like, the whole thing you guys did has really inspired me to step it up. And my co host. My co host is fired. Dennis is gone. David, are you looking for a job?

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, well, if you want me to fumble my way through your intros, I'd be happy to do that. You know, this is episode. I don't know.

[Top Lobster]

387, 322 Illuminati. Confirmed.

[David Lee Corbo]

And I just. I. You know what I've given less of a damn about? Yeah, the intro.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, me neither.

[David Lee Corbo]

The further it goes in, the more I'm like What's up?

[Top Lobster]

The people know.

[Ben Bennis]

You know.

[David Lee Corbo]

You know what you're listening to.

[Top Lobster]

This is going to be a 20 minute preview. Timothy Alvarino. We're cutting it.

[David Lee Corbo]

And let me tell you something. I also don't care about how much of that 20 minutes I waste before we get into content, before we fill the people's content. I just, I like doing things in a, in a comfy kind of way these days. And so if that means fumbling through the intro, I'm glad you like it. Maybe the worst one to date.

[Ben Bennis]

Speak. That speaks volumes to what our intros are like. Okay, if you. Oh, my God. I don't. Never mind. Dennis, you're fired.

[David Lee Corbo]

There you go. Well, I guess he was already fired. We were just on your show recently and we still didn't meet Dennis. And now he's, he's tending to the dead, which is a, you know, a pretty good excuse, I guess.

[Ben Bennis]

It's pretty good. It's pretty good.

[Top Lobster]

But he's in the age of AI.

[Ben Bennis]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Couldn't you make a bot to take care of those dead folks? Or couldn't you make Dennis an AI representation on your show?

[Top Lobster]

Does he exist? Chad? Is this real?

[Ben Bennis]

Chad, right? It's like the guy that's like, oh, my girlfriend, and then never shows up with a girl. That's me with Dennis.

[David Lee Corbo]

I knew a guy like that, actually. And I wish I had that memory at the forefront of my mind, because you sparked something. I knew a guy that was constantly talking about his girlfriend. She was in a different country. And, and it was just like for years and years and years, we never saw her, we never met her. And then eventually, like, it took a while, but we were all like, hey, I don't think this chick exists. So very much in the same vein exists, Dennis. Or, or doesn't exist. But I like what you said about you're a, a couple of guys that talk about everything but don't know anything. And I said, damn, just like us. For real, for real, for real, for real. Because I feel very much the same way. And I, I, I notice as the days tick forward, and I wonder if you would agree with this, Ben. You know, we're in this era of Epstein files, whatever, you know, and, and I, I'm, I'm looking through these things and I go. I'm very uncertain about the vast majority of things that I think I know these days. In my, in my loyalty to Jesus Christ, I'm certain that a savior was born through the line of David. God came and died for our Sins so that we had a path to redemption. That, that cornerstone, that foundation, very firm. Everything else massively in flux.

[Top Lobster]

Super firm.

[Ben Bennis]

Yeah, we, we, we have no idea what's going on. You know, even last time when you guys were on the show and we were going into the deception that Satan's kind of unveiling and unfolding, the multifaceted deception with aliens and stuff, bro, we have no idea what reality actually is. It's our perception of reality is just based on what the TV tells us straight up. That's it. And we literally have no clue what's actually going on. We have, we have like an intuition because we know these guys are evil Satanists. Right? If you're not in Christ, you're a Satanist. You belong to Satan. So then is it a surprise that the most powerful richest elites, who some claim to descend from Nephilim bloodlines, like Gary Wayne says, Is it a surprise that they're still doing, like, the sacrifices and the crazy child rituals and stuff that they were doing back in the day? Not at all. It's expected.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. When people, people have been, you know, there's a video, maybe you could find a top. There's like this video, this lady at an airport.

[Ben Bennis]

Oh, yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

And she's screaming about the Epstein files and, which I think is interesting. I, I, It's a sign of the times, for sure. Right. And, and in that way, something fascinating to look at. But there is this part of, of the human experience that calls you to do something about it. And, and really what, what people are asking is for people to mobilize, get together and do something about the world. Right? The world as it has always been. Has there always been, you know, elites worshiping fallen entities? Has there always been, you know, conglomerate of Satanists sacrificing children and all these like. Yeah, dude. Yeah. It's been that way since, you know, I don't know. Here, let's,

[Ben Bennis]

I don't have audio.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, I don't know if anybody else could hear that either. We'll make sure it's going to do the right thing. But guys, have you ever heard, have you heard that in the chat? But I mean, that's what we're asking to do something about, Right? We're asking to rectify the way the world has always been. We're called to be in the world, not of it. Right. Pilgrims in a strange land and, or in a foreign land. Can you hear that?

[Ben Bennis]

Still no.

[Top Lobster]

No.

[David Lee Corbo]

Still no. Couldn't hear it.

[Ben Bennis]

Couldn't hear.

[David Lee Corbo]

All right, well, I guess we'll we'll screw that clip. But it's just this. Is it a lady or is it a guy? I think it's a guy.

[Top Lobster]

Lady.

[Ben Bennis]

That's a guy.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's a lady. Boy, you know, walking through. Walking through the. The airport and saying that everybody is losing their minds because they're acting normal while something abnormal is happening, meaning the. The release of the episode and, you know.

[Top Lobster]

But.

[David Lee Corbo]

But I guess my point is, like,

[Top Lobster]

I love how they're doing it, too. Like, y' all don't know that they use the Epstein files out today, and all the black people around, they're like, he didn't any black kids. So I don't.

[Ben Bennis]

I'm not really worried about that, dude. I don't know. I don't know. Arguably, the references to grape soda probably

[David Lee Corbo]

means there was references to grape soda, right? I think you asked that the other day.

[Ben Bennis]

Oh, there's a bunch. It's. Yeah, the. The. The. They always talk about pizza and grape soda together. Together. I shouldn't say always, but repeatedly it's mentioned by multiple people. Even his.

[David Lee Corbo]

Honestly, sounds like a party.

[Ben Bennis]

Even. Even his. What's it called? Not gynecologist, but what's a male gynecologist? The guy that gives you Viagra and stuff. Okay. The penis doctor. You know what I'm talking about? Hey, his penis doctor messages him, here's your prescription for your erectile dysfunction medication. Once it gets cleared up, let me know. And let's go get pizza and grape soda together. Yeah, that's a. That's a weird one, huh?

[David Lee Corbo]

I mean, I suppose what I'm getting at is, like, I'm not saying to roll over. Especially Christians are always accused of this, like, pacifism to the degree of allowing people to trespass. Cocktail.

[Top Lobster]

The cocktail.

[David Lee Corbo]

Good job, Elohim. Elohim with the banger. But Christians are often accused of pacifism to the degree that we allow people to trespass against us and allow the world to. And it's like, I don't think we allow the world to do anything. The world will constantly give in to its carnal nature. Right? Sins of the flesh and falling victim to these negative spiritual entities, nudging and pushing for, you know, you to engage in something that is, you know, base operations as far as, like, lower vibrational, negative sense sin. Right? That's what we're talking about. And so, yeah, I don't think that that's on Christians. It's like, oh, Christians have a tendency to turn the other cheek, let's say. And then the world Falls into. It's like, no, dude, it's always been this way. It's been this way since the dawn of time. I don't know what that looks like. To mobilize suddenly and then. And a question I've been asking lately is, are we, are we even called to do that? Does the Bible call for us to rid the wicked or the world of the wicked?

[Ben Bennis]

I don't think so. I've been struggling with this as well. You know, if it's. If it's somebody showing up to your house to like rape your wife and children. I understand the defense of. Or the argument for self defense, you know, that's just violence for the sake of, like, violence. But when it's persecution, I don't think we're ever called to retaliate. I don't think we have an example of that in the New Testament via the apostles or Jesus himself or early church or. You know what I'm saying? And I've been. I've been. I've been struggling with this myself, so I know where you're at.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, we're called to be in the world, not of it. Are we called to save it? Are we called to save? It's like Christ comes to redeem the world. That's. That's his gig. Thank God it's not mine.

[Ben Bennis]

Right?

[David Lee Corbo]

I couldn't do it, so I don't know. I've been looking at things.

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[David Lee Corbo]

Apparently, at the Super Bowl, I don't know if it ran. Did you. Did you happen to catch this Epstein ad?

[Top Lobster]

No. Oh, yeah, yeah. With a woman.

[David Lee Corbo]

Women. So. So. So, yeah, you know, there's this ad where. And. And it's a soft disclosure to the normies, I would say, because what it is, is it's a bunch of women that are our age, maybe a little bit older, a little bit younger, and they're insinuating that they were trafficked by Epstein at a time where they're holding up their own photos. And it's that kind of weird space again, like the Netflix documentary did, where it's like 16, 17 year olds. That's how they look in the photo. 16, 17, you know, somewhere in that neighborhood when they were trafficked. Obviously, the Epstein files contain a lot darker subject matter, you know, on that topic. But it's wild. It's wild that we live in a time where the super bowl might be the biggest platform for advertising ever. Right. When Bad Buddy plays the super bowl, he's effectively played the largest stage in the world. Right. So if your advertisements are running during the Super Bowl's ads, which is, you know, ads are one of the things it's known for. Biggest platform possible for your product. Your product, in this case, being sexual extortion.

[Top Lobster]

I'm not sure.

[David Lee Corbo]

I don't know what it's called.

[Top Lobster]

Someone was like, who paid for this? But they were coming at it from.

[Ben Bennis]

They're coming at it from tokens. Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

They were saying basically how it's controlled up, because how did they get 8 to 10 million dollars to play this commercial? And I don't know. I could see people that are concerned about this subject, you know, putting out some cash.

[Ben Bennis]

Sure.

[Top Lobster]

But it's like, who are those people? Is a good question.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, the. The super bowl is the great ritual. Right. It's the great yearly. The annual ritual ceremony. The superb owl. So I think that for Epstein to be on that, I. I don't know if it's an altruistic thing that's happened where a bunch of donors got together. We're concerned about this thing. This feels like we're getting to the point where we're. We're pulling the. The curtain back. Ben, what do you. What do you make of it? I mean, just the overall climate right now. We're getting blapped up by Epstein files. You know, disclosure seems to be on the horizon. We were just on your show talking about that. Weird time.

[Ben Bennis]

Definitely a weird time. I'm not optimistic at all. One of the. One of the laws within, like, Luciferianism, right, Satanism, is that they have to tell you what they're doing, okay? Whether you believe them or not, whether you think it's just art, whether you think they're just joking, right? That's on you. But when they tell you that, hey, we run the world, we're sacrificing children, we're freaking essaying them, we're. Yeah, we run the show and we're doing the most evil, occultic, demonic crap you've ever seen in your life. If you don't do anything about it from a Luciferian perspective, that's on you. We've told you what's going on, okay? If nobody did anything after Covid, if nobody's going to do anything after they publicize 3 million documents of this kind of Satanic that's going on, that's on us. You know, are we as Christians called to do anything about it? Like go out and be violent? Probably not. Are we. Are we called to protest, draw awareness, to call it out? I think that's the extent that we can go to. Because realistically, the normies are just going to go back to work on Monday. Today's Monday. So they're back at work and they are going to complain about it on the Internet, and then they're going to vote for the same people to represent our country and to run it. That's exactly what's going to happen. Nothing's going to change. And the only thing this does is going to embolden the elites who are facing no consequences, no consequences for anybody, okay? They're just going to be emboldened to do worse because that's exactly what's going to happen. They're going to do worse. And that's part of the. In my opinion, this leads up to the. This is the frogs and boiling water, right? The slow boil of, like, evil that's being perpetuated on humanity. And I think it culminate. It culminates in the alien disclosure. I think that's where this leads, where evil gets so bad, so crazy that lo and behold, poof, here are our saviors that appear in the clouds. You know, that's where I think this goes.

[David Lee Corbo]

I think that's a Highly likely scenario. We were talking with Ed Mabry recently and, and he's much more of scriptural content than he is of like, whatever schizo crap the world is doing, which is always fascinating because we get to talk to him and he's got great ideas and great input on all types of subjects. And every once in a while we'll introduce something to him where he'll go like, I actually didn't know that was a thing. And he was watching our. Well, he was asking, number one, what makes us think that disclosure is, is actually imminent this time. And imminent is maybe not a word that I would use, but I think it's a higher likelihood than it's ever been. I think every march forward in time increases the likelihood you get a little bit closer. Right. But if you're just looking at like the kind of political and cultural climate, especially within the UAP space, it really seems like there's some big gearing up for, you know, people are positioning themselves and getting ready for a narrative to be imparted on the people. And, and that narrative is certainly narrative control. But one of the things Ed said that was pretty fascinating was he thinks that a lot of this is about normalization, right? Normalizing this sort of thing. Because it does seem like we're in an era where you could, to your point, Ben, pull back the curtain on any number of things and then we kind of will just shrug at it and go, well, all right, because, because, you know, I got to go to work on Monday and I have mouths to feed and I have bills to pay and I got Fortnite to play and Jeffrey Epstein's in my party and he, I promised him I'll be there at 6pm and we're gonna, we're gonna do, we're gonna Fortnite. So I mean, I don't know if it's, if it's just the stresses of life or maybe. Actually, I think I do have a pretty good idea. I think it's that what we've referenced as the, the news cycle and it's, it's constriction as far as time goes. So previously it would be like a, a month long news cycle. Maybe in the 90s, right, you would hang on to a story for like a whole month and it would grip the nation for a month. And, and eventually as time goes forward, that gets shortened to like a week long news cycle. And we used to say, like, man, it doesn't matter what it is this week because next week it's going to be something Else that got to a 24 hour news cycle, which I think is what we exist in when times are gracious, but when times are really hectic, that thing gets constricted to like a. I don't know, like an hour by hour news cycle. And especially since the new year has unveiled, it's been like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. It's like every day there's something new, but there's a couple of things new daily. And so I could definitely see that we've become desensitized to a lot of the information that's coming out, no matter how crazy it is. I remember in 2017 when they said they recovered off world craft, the Pentagon said that we just went, okay. And then they said, well, we've got non human biologics. And we're like, the language is exhausting. Could you be maybe more specific about that? Is it aliens? Say aliens. And then once again, we just didn't give a. So one of the things that I saw that made me think about how Ed Mabry is consistently over the target. I sent it to the group Chat recently. Right. But it's. It comes from a. A Groiper account. Right. So this is a Nick Fuentes enjoyer. And not that that's a huge condemnation of Nick, although I do think that he created fertile ground for this idea to sprout by, you know, saying things like, Jeffrey Epstein has aura. Right. So. So I never thought, or I never stop to think that the thing that might become normalized is Jeffrey Epstein being based. But it seems like that actually is happening. This guy says, literally anybody with any success over the age of 35 was on Epstein's island. And then he goes a step further and says, and if you're 35 plus and you're not a pedophile, you're a. Which is like an outlandish thing to say.

[Ben Bennis]

Dang.

[David Lee Corbo]

But of course, that tweet blows up now. Now, it's controversial. Most people are denouncing it, but I do think like, oh, he just crossed a line. And like now that that's on the table to joke about, and it's like, look, we delve in comedy a lot. But I do have to ask myself, at what point do the jokes become like a tool by which you normalize the sentiment?

[Ben Bennis]

Of course, yeah. I mean, that's what the gestures were, you know, like in the court, they were to poke fun at certain things in society to where people who are the elites making the calls, you know, could kind of laugh it off. And at the same time, if you look at past civilizations, like ancient civilizations, bro, human and child sacrifice, all the norm. That wasn't something they were hiding. Child, I don't know, essay, I guess was completely normalized, right? They all. The Greeks, the Romans, all of them, all of them. Even before that, they all had freaking child bank toys. You know, this was completely out in the open and normal, but it was the elites that were perpetrating these things, you know what I'm saying? And so what a coincidence that those past civilizations that normalized these activities that, that now we are so outraged that Epstein was doing on behalf of a certain government. It was normal in their civilizations or their cultures back then. And they were also arguably way more in touch with the demonic fallen angel, false gods, whatever you want to call it. They were in communication and worshiped these things and possibly even saw them on the regular, you know. So this is what I'm saying. This thing has a natural trajectory based on historic events that we can analyze from the past. And I think the natural next step is when you're a pro.

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[Ben Bennis]

Alien, demon, fallen angels, whatever you want to call them. Manifestation and then worship. You know, I think that's the trajectory and it makes sense based on what we've seen in history.

[Top Lobster]

There was a. There's an interesting tweet that prior guest Jordan Crowder brought up and I won't play the video here, but he is kind of. He comes from like the new age realm.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's a little Gnostic, it's a little new age. It's A little, you know, and I like Jordan, but it is very much like astrological. All that little leaning on your own understanding kind of a deal. Which, I mean, you know, I'm sure it's fine.

[Top Lobster]

I like to look at him as a reference of what he's looking at over there, because I think he does bring pretty good material.

[David Lee Corbo]

He does. He's a great researcher.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah. So William Tompkins is talking about how he knows all about the Luciferian agenda, but doesn't think that the world is ready for the conversation. This was about 20 years ago. He says that in the video, this old dude, he was 92 at the time, he said that it would take away from UFO disclosure.

[Ben Bennis]

Wow.

[Top Lobster]

And then he goes, is the world now ready to know the truth about these aliens? And it's kind of.

[David Lee Corbo]

Wait, I'm gonna see that again. So. So he says he knows all about the Luciferian agenda, but doesn't think the world is ready for conversation. It would take away. That's fascinating, because I'm wondering how Jordan is framing that in his mind. I mean, he's very much a guy, you know, by the way, his. His calls with, like, Three Eye Atlas and how Three Eye Atlas is supposed to be this herald of awakening of some sort. And that basically. Ben, just to kind of cue you into what. What Jordan is saying here, he came on our show and he said, you know, Three Eye Atlas just stands for third, you know, interstellar object or whatever that passes through our awareness. It's only the third one because we only developed the technology to perceive it rather recently. So it's the third one that we've detected. And each previous one comes in and what. What, Lee. Or what happens after it is some sort of, like, great, you know, so the first one that happened, the next thing that came up after it left was Pizzagate. The second one that happened, the next thing that came up was Covet and the lockdowns. This one just passed by, is now leaving, apparently. And. And we're getting the. The Epstein files. And also what seems to be disclosures.

[Top Lobster]

I didn't even put that together.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's fascinating. I. I'll give it to Jordan. That's a fascinating observation.

[Top Lobster]

And it's like. It's. It's almost like it's orchestrated. Right. So that thing passes by, and it's not that there's this natural enlightenment. Something happens.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right.

[Top Lobster]

But we're given information.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. Like, I wouldn't necessarily call Pizza Gate an enlightenment, and I certainly wouldn't call Covid. It's more like it's prime time to harness the energy of a celestial object to pull off a big con, almost. Maybe that's what they're doing. It seems a little bit.

[Top Lobster]

But what I'm getting a time frame that they have to do this in.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right. They're.

[Top Lobster]

They're looking at the stars to know when. Yeah, that's crazy. I didn't, I didn't remember that. And even put that together. That. Yeah. As this thing leaves, I think it just went behind the sun. You know how this 3ayals was supposed to pass us goes behind the sun. Something interesting as well that he mentioned was like the burn off from it, which I don't know. I think, I think it. The theory does work on a flat plane or around spinning Earth with an entire universe. If something is coming from, like, out of our. We're out of our system where we're at and it's going at extreme speeds, there's got to be a burn off of some type. There has to be some. Something disintegrating off of it. So as it sprinkles that over the Earth and just continues to go on by, what happens? You introduce something different into, you know, a current organism, which is a reality. So it's like, well, what does that mean? What does that mean for us at all? I don't know.

[David Lee Corbo]

I don't know. It is, it is strange, though, to see. I'm wondering what he, what he thinks about that. Like, if Luciferianism takes away from the UFO disclosure, is he seeing that as like a negative thing or is he seeing it as like, oh, that's what UFO disclosure actually is. That's maybe something I'd like to ask.

[Top Lobster]

It'll take away from the conversation of UFO disclosure as UFOs being anything other than. Anything other than it does in a way because we've, we've already had the satanic panic. The idea of. I kind of do understand the trope of, of other people looking at Christians calling things demonic.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right?

[Ben Bennis]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

From the outside looking in, you can be, you can say, all right, like when I'm looking at my mom or something and she's calling something demonic, I'm like, all right, let's. Let's be a little bit more specific. Yeah, Specific, logical. Let's calm down for a second and look at what this is. So there is that specific trope, but it doesn't change the fact that it is. You know what I mean? It's just, it's that that trope's been used so much. It's like the boy who cried wolf. So now to the general public, they'll look at it and they won't be able to have this conversation because they'll be correctly looking at something which is

[David Lee Corbo]

bizarre to say and maybe a little bit more complex than demons.

[Ben Bennis]

Yeah. Can I ask you guys a question?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Ben Bennis]

Are you guys. Damn it. Are you guys seeing or have you seen any Christians?

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[Ben Bennis]

Try to excuse, sidestep, ignore the fact that Epstein was working on behalf of Israel.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's a good question. And I. I don't know that I've seen that I've seen.

[Top Lobster]

I don't know if I'd call them Christians.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, I've seen Jews and I don't even mean that in the typical derogatory sense. Yeah. Within the context of like a Ben Shapiro.

[Top Lobster]

I've been heavy on the Jew stuff late and I try. It's. It's an apple. I try not to bonk so much on Twitter, but I don't know, like journalists, they'll say, what's the big deal? What's the deal with Epstein? And I just go, hey, Grok, what's their ethnicity? And every single time it's like, he's Jewish, his mother's Jewish.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

And I'm just like, yeah, yeah, man, dude, I know. But there are evangelical Christians out there that are shoe shoeing it away as well. They love the Russian narrative or the Qatar narrative. Anything but Israel, which is very clear. And don't get me wrong, maybe he did some with Russia too. This dude was doing stuff with everybody,

[David Lee Corbo]

but seems that way.

[Top Lobster]

What's very clear is in these emails. It's like 90% of the people in there are Jewish. It seems like this dude is working very closely with Ghislaine Maxwell, whose father was massage, for sure. And it's like, yeah, yeah. He says in the emails, I work for the Rothschilds.

[David Lee Corbo]

And they're like, I think he's working with Russia.

[Top Lobster]

With Russia. And it's like, yeah, I don't.

[David Lee Corbo]

Which I don't even know what to make of those emails. Just because he says that. It's like, it's just so obvious that I'm like, you know, I'm not like super pumped. Just because the obvious thing that I thought was true ends up being referenced in the, in the. Because I remember fighting with people. I think I even. I forgot who it might have been. Dave Smith, to some degree, about the Mossad ties to. To Epstein. We like briefly touched on that in an episode and he kind of like,

[Top Lobster]

he dismissed the premise.

[David Lee Corbo]

He dismissed it. Yeah, but I mean, that's. Yeah, what's that?

[Ben Bennis]

That's silly.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, this was back before any of this, you know, was publicly. I mean, it's always been publicly available. How the hell else would I have

[Top Lobster]

done for 30 minutes? Guys, we're cutting the street.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, yeah, cut the stream people out. So, Ben, what about you? Have you seen. Because I don't see why you would feel the need to defend it. It doesn't really like, you know, Israel is involved. Okay, Israel, look in the Bible. What have they been doing since the beginning of time? They've been messing up pretty massively. So nothing new under the sun here. What, have you seen this?

[Ben Bennis]

I haven't seen anybody defending, like, Epstein or Israel. But what I have seen is people intentionally leaving out the inconvenient little detail that Epstein was working on behalf of Israel. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, that's. That's a, That's a big. That's a big issue because Epstein was not an independent actor. He was not. He was an operative. He was unleashed on the world by a government. You know what I'm saying? And all of these connections to Russia, pharmaceutical companies, mathematicians, scientists, entertainers, politicians, banker. He had his fingers in a lot of pies, pun intended. And, and the reason his influence was so broad and, and the reason he tried to corrupt so many people from so many various walks of life was because it almost seems as if he was trying to aggregate, like, influence over all different kinds of aspects of society. So that when the time comes for Israel to need something from these people, they've Already got the top dogs corrupted and blackmailed. And so whatever you guys need, whatever Israel needs, he'll be able to affect or influence a decision because he's already corrupted people in those positions of power. You see what I'm saying? That's why his, his op was so broad, bro. So broad. That's why you had Stephen Hawking on, right? You don't bring that dude around for like, because he's the life of the freaking party. You don't bring that guy around. You could like laugh at him and throw water balloons or something, you know what I mean? While he's like hooking up with midgets or whatever he was into. I think it was midgets. But you bring him around because he's extremely influential in the scientific community. You know what I'm saying? You bring Bill Gates around not because you want to hear him talk about his freaking stock holdings and about Microsoft. You bring him around because he pushes pharmaceutical drugs and because he. And because he's very influential. You know what I'm saying? So this is why his influence was so freaking broad. It was strategic. It's. It's an operation, right? So it's not just by happenstance that he would rub shoulders with these people and then be like, you want to hang out? You know, he, he targeted specific people. So to see Christians, even like pastors and influence influencers in the Christian space call out Epstein and then stop short of who unleashed Epstein and who he was actually working for, to me is an extreme, extreme, like, manipulation of reality. It's borderline, like misinformation. You know what I mean?

[Top Lobster]

Look at that, that meeting that happened. I forget his name. His name is. Oh, Mike Huckabee. He's the ambassador to Israel and he met with like a thousand prominent evangelical pastors in Israel and he's telling them in a closed door meeting how to, how to, you know, shepherd their flock in regards to Israel. Not, not anything else biblical. It's just strictly what we say about Israel. And there's like, yeah, damage control. It's damage control. There's an extreme influence. And coming. That coming on the heels of the release of the Epstein files is not a surprise. I mean, in, right. In the church that we go to. They're not going to talk about that. No, but we will pray for. They will pray for Israel and Netanyahu to do the correct moves.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, whatever. Whatever those are.

[Ben Bennis]

Okay, that's cool. So how's that been working out?

[Top Lobster]

Oh, great. A lot of kids dead, a lot of food poison.

[Ben Bennis]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

But as far as Israel's influence over the world. Yeah. It has been growing.

[Top Lobster]

So I will say, listen, if we're going to give them the benefit of the doubt, if we're praying for Israel and Netanyahu, I do pray for them to stop doing what they're doing. So I, I don't know what they're, you know, I don't know the. They. They're never specific about the, the nature of the prayer.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, that's. The church is. Is, I think, a little bit confused oftentimes. But I think the way that when we talk to Mabry and he laid it out as, like, blessings and curses are spiritual things. And so a blessing. If I were to bless Israel, it

[Top Lobster]

would be to, you know who gave us a blessing? Sean from Kingdom in Context, over and

[David Lee Corbo]

over again with the encouragement.

[Top Lobster]

Well, not just encouragement, but he said, in five years, your guy's show will be tremendous.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. That's huge.

[Top Lobster]

That's called a blessing. Like, I noticed it right away.

[David Lee Corbo]

Speaking life over a thing, and to

[Top Lobster]

speak, whether it happens or not, the fact that he's. He put that out there, that's called a blessing. If I said, david, you're gonna die in six days.

[Ben Bennis]

Yeah, yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Or to say to the effect of like, I hope XYZ happens to like.

[Top Lobster]

Or not just hope, but like, this will happen to you.

[David Lee Corbo]

A blessing over Israel would be to say, I. I pray that Israel, that Netanyahu, they come to the realization that Jesus Christ was the real Messiah.

[Ben Bennis]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

And they. And they pick up their crosses, they follow Jesus, they repent for their sins, and salvation is available for them.

[Ben Bennis]

That.

[Top Lobster]

That all of them go there and they live happily in Israel and they stop. Yeah, I just. I pray that they stop. Yeah, that's a great.

[David Lee Corbo]

I pray that you stop carpet bombing Gaza and stop using us as an attack dog. To get into wars with your enemies in the Middle east would be a great.

[Top Lobster]

But that's not the prayers that's coming.

[Ben Bennis]

That's not the first we're getting, bro. No way. The. The thing is. The thing is. Well, I agree. It's a good prayer. We should. We should be praying that for Israel. We should be praying that for America, Palestine, Iran, Russia, China. Make a list of countries you should be praying that over. Right. This is not something specific we are called to pray for in regards to Israel. I will bless Israel or I will bless those who bless Israel exists nowhere in the Bible. That's a misquotation of Genesis 12. I'll read it to you. This is the funniest thing you've ever seen. And Huckabee says this. Ted Cruz said this on Tucker Carlson. Tucker Carlson freaking laughed at him and made fun of him. Right? Okay, so it comes from. This is where the misquotation comes from Genesis 12. And I'll start in verse one. Now the Lord said to Abraham, go from your country and your kindred and your father's house to the land that I will show you, and I will make of you a great nation, and I will bless you and make your name great so that you will be a blessing. I will bless those who bless you, and him who dishonors you, I will curse, and in you all the families of the earth will be blessed. So Abraham went as the Lord had told him, and Lot went with him, yada yada yada. This is a passage specifically speaking of Abraham. And guess what happened? Keep reading the story. We know the story of Abraham, but keep reading it. Abraham goes out and the kings that he encounters who were good to Abraham, God was good to and blessed the kings who were bad to Abraham, like trying to rape his wife got cursed and punished. So much so that the king woke up and he's like, what have you done to me? Your God is punishing me. Take your wife and go. You know what I'm saying? So it's literally fulfilled in Abraham. Whoever was good to Abraham, God blessed. Whoever was bad to Abraham, God got cursed and punished. So then to read into that passage that when he says, whoever, whoever honors you, I will bless and whoever dishonors you, I will curse or whatnot. To read the current state of Israel into that.

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[Ben Bennis]

is an adulteration of the text, okay? It is false teaching and it is only being used for political ends. And I don't think that's what scripture is intended for. You know what I'm saying?

[Top Lobster]

Amen.

[David Lee Corbo]

That should be a clip.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, we're.

[David Lee Corbo]

Put a timestamp on that. Well, that was a.

[Top Lobster]

You just got canceled, Ben, how do you feel?

[David Lee Corbo]

This is why he said, I feel these things on the show. Great. We just got.

[Ben Bennis]

It goes. It goes pretty deep because the only. The only people. I shouldn't say the only people, the only Christians who are obsessed. Obsessed with support of Israel and the Jewish people. It's a particular theological system call or interpretive system called dispensationalism. These are the Christians that are responsible for perpetrating this misrepresentation of the text where we become idolaters to Israel. Right? It's. It's almost equivalent to the same way, like Catholics worship Mary even though they say we don't worship Mary. It's the same thing with an evangelicalism. They worship Israel even though they say they don't worship Israel. You know what I'm saying? And it's this system. Are you guys familiar with dispensationalism?

[David Lee Corbo]

I could definitely use an overview on that letter, R.I.P.

[Ben Bennis]

okay, so dispensationalism is like the standard vanilla evangelical Christian perspective of the day. It was systematized in 1830 by John Darby, okay? And the dispies, I call them dispies. This isn't a pejorative, it's just short for dispensationalism. Because that's way too large, too long to say every freaking time, okay? So the dispies will say, no, it wasn't. Dispensationalism existed long before Darby. No, it didn't. Individual tenants of dispensationalism existed since the early church, but the system, the interpretive system itself was synthesized by Darby in 1830, okay? And basically its primary tenants are that God worked throughout history in different dispensations. Okay? No big deal there. We all agree God worked in different ways throughout history. Right?

[Top Lobster]

That's what I. I mean, as when. When people say dispensationalism, I know exactly what you're talking about with the theological side of it and how people have goofed it up. But I still do like the term because there's no better way to understand. Like, yeah, Ed maybe does a great job of talking about this. Yeah. God dealt with Adam and Eve very differently than he dealt with Moses or Noah right after he's walking with them, right? And then they get pushed out of the garden. Then he's just, then he's kind of there talking to them. And as the dispensations continue on, we get to the point where we're left with just the Holy Spirit right now in the age of the church, right? So like before that God was walking with us through Jesus Christ and before that God was walking with us with the prophets. So now it's like he is dealing with us in a different way.

[David Lee Corbo]

It almost seems like. I like the way that Mabry lays it out where it's like he is continually trying. He's like very gracious, very forgiving, very patient.

[Top Lobster]

He's like, we are, we are pushing him away.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. And he's like, well, what if I, what if I try this way? What if my spirit dwells within you? What if my son walks among you?

[Ben Bennis]

I, I totally believe that. There, there's no argument. The, the, even the word dispensation. Dispensation is in the Bible multiple times. And it's not.

[David Lee Corbo]

I don't know what that means.

[Ben Bennis]

Dispensation. Pull it up. What the hell does this word mean, man? Yeah, it's a biblical concept. There's no denying it. But, but, but listen, the system of dispensationalism is something completely different than just using a biblical term and equating it to your system. Right. So you have to distinguish between those two. Just because they coined it dispensationalism and the word dispensation is in the Bible, doesn't mean everything they believe in their system is accurate. You see what I'm saying?

[David Lee Corbo]

I wonder how many people adhere to that. And they would also be like, I truthfully don't know what that word means.

[Top Lobster]

So dispensation. Yeah. The outline of the biblical uses would be the management of a household or of household affairs, specifically the management, oversight, administration of others property. So that's actually very interesting when, when you're looking at it, I guess like.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, not helpful.

[Top Lobster]

A landlord.

[Ben Bennis]

Top, pull up, pull up mentions of the word dispensation in the Bible. Pull it up in context. It will make sense. Because guess what? The management of whatever he just said is God's way of handling his own subjects and property.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay. Okay.

[Ben Bennis]

Which is, which is us and humanity and reality and history. Go ahead.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah. So for if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward. But if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed upon unto

[David Lee Corbo]

Me exemption from a rule or, or usual requirement. So exemption from the usual requirements. So is this to say that each, each incursion of dispensation means that, you know, the Israelites or those of us who are grafted onto the branch are no longer. We are exempted from the previous.

[Ben Bennis]

There you go.

[David Lee Corbo]

So like if we're, if we're under Greece, what's that?

[Ben Bennis]

That's a new dispensation. So God was working in a particular way with Israel, right? The tree. And now he has grafted in via grace, the Gentiles. This is now called the church age. This is the new dispensation in which God is acting. There are not two simultaneous dispensations. There are not two covenants at the moment where God has a chosen people, Israel, through which he has a modus operandi, a dispensation that he's working by for salvation, and also a separate dispensation for the church through which he is saving via grace and Jesus. There are not two covenants simultaneously existing. There's only the covenant of grace. It is the new one. It has been. The old one has been replaced by this one. Christ fulfilled the old covenant and now graphs everybody in, including the faithful Jews. There's no salvation outside of Christ. We all agree to this. Right?

[David Lee Corbo]

Right, Right.

[Ben Bennis]

Right.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay.

[Ben Bennis]

That's the dispensation we're in. Okay. So it's just the way God operates within human history for his people. Okay, that's the idea. The biblical concept of dispensationalism. But here are the other tenants. Okay, that's the first one. That's where the term dispensational comes from. Now the other primary tenants of dispensationalism is that there is a separation. Currently still there is a separation between God's chosen people, Israel and his actions with them in the future, and the church. So there is still a separation between Israel and the church.

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[Ben Bennis]

To Geico. Another big one. The seven year tribulation. The literal millennial reign. The pre Trib rapture. Okay, these are all tenants. What? Why are you laughing?

[David Lee Corbo]

I don't know, the way you said it.

[Ben Bennis]

A little bit harder well spend.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, well, you don't think that maybe because we, we have a running theory that if there were to be a pre trip rapture, it would be like, you know, like the telepathy tape kids, you know how they're like non speaking autistic. Like they say they got their, their abilities. Yeah. Well, no, he's, he's, he's one of the bad ones. Oh, he's not. Yeah, because they did. The other autistic kids did say that some of them are bad. So you know, but like, like you ever see like the down, down syndrome dude with the nunchucks? Like that guy, he would be like pre rap. Like pre Trib rapture I think would be, if it did happen at all, that maybe it would be reserved for people who like. Actually, because I do think like. So like I said, the, the telepathy tape kids said that the reason they have access to this set, I would, I would argue it's because you have been a vaccine injured and thereby have disassociated because of the inability to, to have your, your body function with you. And that's why you have access to this, you know, psychic realm. But they say it's because they never lied. They've never committed the sin of lying. And because lying is within a social context. Right.

[Top Lobster]

So what's, what is your theory on it then?

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, if they've never even lied, which is a fundamental thing that even a child does. Right. Let's say that is an actual spiritual sin. Even when a child is lying, they're committing the base form spiritual sin. If they've never done that dog, maybe you get pre Trib raptured first in life.

[Top Lobster]

Where does this guy go?

[David Lee Corbo]

That's what I'm saying. That guy. Pre Trib rapture.

[Ben Bennis]

Let me just quote. So also that's how you get a

[David Lee Corbo]

Fungal bloom in your pool.

[Ben Bennis]

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[David Lee Corbo]

Dude, your pool is ruined.

[Ben Bennis]

Let me, let me just read you something that you might want to throw into that mix. Romans 3:23. For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. It doesn't matter if you are mentally handicapped. It doesn't matter what age you are. We all, we are all born in Adam fair and Adam is our federal head. We all have, we have a sin nature by birth, not from our first sin that we ever commit. We commit our first sin because we have a sin nature. You see what I'm saying?

[Top Lobster]

We're making an argument that if there were to be pre trib rapture rapture,

[Ben Bennis]

these guys deserve it.

[Top Lobster]

These guys go first.

[David Lee Corbo]

Those guys go first?

[Ben Bennis]

Yeah. Let's just say they're, they're down. They're downs.

[Top Lobster]

They're down to go up, baby.

[Ben Bennis]

They're downs. No, they're downs for sure.

[Top Lobster]

I'm just like, you know, if, if some shit's really gonna go down.

[Ben Bennis]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

I look at these guys and I'm like, man, if, if God was really merciful. Get him, get him, get him out of here.

[Ben Bennis]

Yeah, I, I get it. I, I, listen, the way I put it is I pray for a preacher rapture, but I expect not a preacher rapture, you know what I'm saying?

[David Lee Corbo]

Because it would be to go through it.

[Ben Bennis]

I, I 100 expect to go through anything that's coming. But, but all this to say, okay, those are kind of the main primary tenants of dispensationalism, the system. And when I say system, it's an interpretive system of reading the Bible. Sorry to nerd out on this, but it's like, it's very important because it leads somewhere, you know, when. Dude, have you guys ever been to a church in America where they didn't believe in Pre trib rapture? 7 year tribulation after death, we go to heaven, stuff like that.

[Top Lobster]

I was in a, the previous church that I was in, the pastor that kicked me out preached pre trib rapture stuff but didn't believe that.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's fascinating.

[Top Lobster]

It was bizarre.

[Ben Bennis]

What do you mean?

[Top Lobster]

He didn't, he didn't like the, the idea of it.

[Ben Bennis]

Why did he preach it?

[Top Lobster]

And he would.

[Ben Bennis]

Oh, because if he was probably getting paid. Hey, so, so here's, here's the thing. It's the standard belief system within evangelicalism, okay? And these are, these are their conclusions. The things we listed pre trib, mid trib, post trib rapture varies, but it's primarily pre trib, okay, Israel, chosen people, church, separate seven year tribulation, blah blah blah, right? Literal millennial reign. Those are, those are conclusions that they've already drawn. They said these things are factual. So then what you do is you go back and filter the entire scripture to fill or fulfill these conclusions. They've already, they've already come to you see what I'm saying? It's not, hey, what does the scripture say? And let me come up with my own conclusions, right? As I'm, as I'm reading, it's hey, these things are true. How does scripture fit these conclusions? Which to me that doesn't seem the right way to read stuff. There are things, there are things we know definitively, right? Like Jesus is the only way to salvation. He is God, right? So when you read the scripture, you'll see that organically through the text, repeatedly, doesn't matter, Old Testament, New Testament. You'll see it, okay, because it's true. But with dispensationalism, with these, with this list of tenants that, that I put out there, you, you have to be influenced to see these things. They're not organic in the text. Somebody has to feed this to you and then show you the text that they're using to come to this conclusion. So that then when you read these in the future, you're already, you already have the dispensational conclusion in mind when you read them. There's no alternative to what they've told you in your brain. It's as if that filter has been placed over your eyes. And now all of the text concludes indispensationalism. You see what I'm saying? And interestingly enough, like I said, the system was synthesized and popularized in the 1830s by John Darby and it became the standard, the standard evangelical form of interpretation. Before that, from, from First Church to 1830, it was not dispensationalism. So for what is that, almost 2,000 years? It was the, it was amillennialism, it was preterism. Those were the historic perspectives on these things. Okay, so all that to say there's different opinions on these things. Dispensationalists don't have like a monopoly on truth when it comes to this stuff. Because for almost 2000 years these guys would have been considered heretics, you know what I'm saying? But now it's flipped. Now dispensationalism is the standard and they consider everybody else heretics that don't agree with them, which is really ironic. But, but when I'm talking when I bring up pre trib or when I emphasize pre trib. Okay. Personally I don't believe in a pre trib rapture at all. I don't think the text supports it. I don't believe that the verses they were using, there's no time reference as to when a rapture will happen in the Bible. It doesn't say before a tribulation. That doesn't exist anywhere in the Bible. All it says is that we'll be caught up in the clouds and then be forever with the Lord. That's it. That's the reference. So there is a rapture putting it before the tribulation. That's dispensationalism. You see what I'm saying? So, so for me and we could pull up the verses if you guys want, we could pull up the verses and nerd out. I don't know how much time you

[David Lee Corbo]

guys got, but it does seem to me that the pre trib rapture is, is, is a lot of. Maybe this is too reductive but like cope.

[Top Lobster]

It feels that way.

[David Lee Corbo]

You know, it's like, yeah, I don't want to go through this thing. And, and I think it's more representative of the softness of, of modern day, not just Christians, but just people in a first world country. We're so detached from suffering in any way shape and 100% and we can't quantify in our, in our childlike minds why on earth we would have to suffer. Why a, a God who you know loves us would allow us to suffer. But it's, it's putting your own understanding especially you know, our brains are jelly. So it's putting our own jelly brained understanding on, on God the creator of the universe, who exists outside of this physical boundary that we exist within, exists outside of time and space, created, everything created. You knew you in your mother's womb before you were born. And, and somehow you know, we're gonna, we're gonna put whatever 30, 40 years of wisdom has imparted on us on God the Creator. And rather than, than say, oh how could I possibly understand, you know, what God means to do? We go, he wouldn't, he wouldn't make us up. We'll probably get, I think we'll probably get pulled out of here before.

[Ben Bennis]

Yeah, yeah dude, we're super special. We're super, super special. Jesus suffered, died for our sins. The apostles, every single one, imprisoned, tortured, suffered, died for our sin. The early Christian did not lie. I'm sorry. The early Christian church martyred, executed, Roman candles, Fed to lions, doesn't matter. But we are so freaking special that God would never let us suffer. Why would we? Why would we suffer? Do you know who I am? What other joke? It's a joke.

[Top Lobster]

What other religions or experiences are we led to believe that we're super special? I mean we are special within, you

[David Lee Corbo]

know, we're all, well, that God loves.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, yeah. But special enough to not suffer like the.

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[Ben Bennis]

It's not even about being special. It literally says count it joy. When you face tribulation and trials and because it produces a certain thing, we're told it's a blessing repeatedly to suffer for Christ. But God's going to hold that away from us. We're not. He's going to keep that blessing from us because he would never let us suffer. Says freaking who? What bible are you reading, you weirdos?

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, suffering in general is, you know, you talk about the fractal nature of the universe or the spiritual principle of like as above, so below. Suffering in general seems to be this refining fire that turns you from one thing into something more. And it's interesting because the people that don't want to suffer, they think they're going to get pre tripped. You can often look at them and say like, well you've removed yourself from suffering. And, and because you've removed yourself from suffering, whatever that looks like in your life, you have experienced a decline cognitively, character wise, there's an atrophy. An atrophy, yeah. Whereas you know, suffering like I, when I talk to God I, you know, we get to do this and this is unbelievable, right? I get to drive into the shop and, and have conversations with guys like you and help people in their walk and point towards Christ and especially during this time. That's unbelievable. Unbelievable. Incredibly grateful. I also know that I still am not, but was definitely not shit before I was homeless, I was eating out of dumpsters and I'm so grateful for that because that's a refining fire. Right? Like I don't know if you ever met somebody who hasn't suffered. It's pretty off putting. Oh for sure there's something really. Whatever they're lacking, only suffering can give it to them. And so since they are in this state of Being absent of suffering, it makes them unreachable, off putting, and. And almost like you have to just move away from this person. Because until they suffer, which is the only thing that can give them this thing. I don't know what it is. I don't know how to define it. They're refining fire, whatever.

[Ben Bennis]

Mox. Moxie.

[David Lee Corbo]

Moxie. Give him some moxie. Build their character. Until they reach that point, it's. It's hard to even interact with them. And so, yeah, I think that we've built up a fascinating thing here in the West. Everything is geared towards keeping us from suffering. It's comforting.

[Ben Bennis]

It's comfort, right? Yeah. That's the same reason we won't rebel when Covet happens. That's the same reason we won't rebel when Epstein files are released. It's because we're comfortable, we're fat, we're lazy. We expect somebody else to do it for us. We have a savior complex. That's why we vote for Trump, you know, who doesn't do shit. This is, this is America. This is that song, this is America. You know, like an evangelical remix of that. But that's the problem. We're so plugged into this matrix that we're scared to unplug and pull the plug, you know what I'm saying? Because the whole system will collapse and I have a mortgage and I need to feed my kids, and there's no way to do that if I rebel against the system. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

There's also this idea like if, yeah, if I were to sell dispensationalism to a generation, I'd sell it to the boomer class today. They're all the tropes, for sure. I mean, they're out there right now,

[David Lee Corbo]

right outside this door.

[Top Lobster]

They're 100. True about them. We had Owen Benjamin come here and I put him in the villages on purpose, in the hotel, in the villages. And I said, walk around, take a look. And within a day he wrote an entire, like, it was like a seven minute song to Jimmy Buffett's Margaritaville where he just improv'd on what he saw here.

[David Lee Corbo]

Baby Boomerville.

[Top Lobster]

It was so hilarious and he absolutely nailed it. Like what? Feed in my flesh again in Baby Boomer.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah. What is it? Avoiding my kids. Avoiding my kids again in Baby Boomerville. Just very, very funny crap. But it is, it's like, it's decadence and it's people that they've built up this place and, and really, you know, A place has been built for them, inviting them into boomer Disney World. And. And it's like people that are desperately trying to pretend that death is not on the horizon.

[Top Lobster]

Some people say that it's the Jew, though, who. Who's something to blame.

[David Lee Corbo]

Jews.

[Top Lobster]

But I know. And he goes, it's never the Jews.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's never the Jews.

[Top Lobster]

That's how the song ends. It was crazy. Absolutely nailed it.

[David Lee Corbo]

But that's the.

[Top Lobster]

That is the target demographic for dispensational dispensationalism. The flavor that we're getting right now, at least. Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Is it that death being so close, you know, in just the grand scheme of things, age and everything is on the horizon. That it's. It's the hijacking of a human mechanism that. That desires to put that off, to not look at it. And the more you turn away from it rather than embrace this thing that is inevitability that all of mankind has had to. To. To deal with. If you do set yourself against. Leads to madness. It leads to building this thing. It leads to pushing your children away. It leads to hoarding gold.

[Ben Bennis]

It leads to adrenochrome ingestion. You know, That's. That's what this all is. And so th. This fear of death and suffering from a Christian's perspective is no different than Epstein. You know how funny is that? It comes from the same hole in the soul. You know what I'm saying? And. And. Hey, bro. And that's pre Trib rapture. Okay? And the verse they'll use. They have others, but this is the only one. And this is funnily funny enough. This is the main one. That's what I should say. But it's the same verse that everybody uses when they come up with their own theory about when the Rapture is okay. And it's in. Let me see. First Corinthians 4:13. This. You. You'll recognize this instantly, right? This is the Raptures passage. Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind who have no hope for. We believe that.

[David Lee Corbo]

Which one is it?

[Top Lobster]

Where are we?

[Ben Bennis]

First Corinthians 4, verse 13.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay.

[Top Lobster]

Oh, I'm in the wrong one.

[David Lee Corbo]

Are we in the wrong one? First Corinthians 4:13.

[Ben Bennis]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

Are you sure?

[David Lee Corbo]

Being defamed.

[Ben Bennis]

We entreat First Thessalonians.

[Top Lobster]

I was writing First Thessalonians as well. Okay.

[David Lee Corbo]

Pull this up so everybody can see.

[Ben Bennis]

Sorry.

[Top Lobster]

That's all good.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay, there it is. Boom.

[Ben Bennis]

Okay, so, first 13 brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in debt so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind who have no hope for. We believe that Jesus died and rose again. So even Jesus died and rose again. And so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him according to the Lord's Word. We tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord God and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. Therefore, encourage one another with these words. Okay, so this is the primary passage about a rapture used by pre tribulation folk. Where. Where. When does this happen, according to the text? When. When does that happen?

[David Lee Corbo]

I. I am new to scripture over these last few years, and so it could be my own failure to, you know, familiarize myself with it. I couldn't. I was looking for that. I couldn't really tell. Was there. Well, we were. I was reading the. We had King James pulled up on the. On the screen, and you were reading from. What was it?

[Ben Bennis]

ESP.

[David Lee Corbo]

So. But I couldn't really. I didn't catch it.

[Ben Bennis]

ESP. It's like Dennis keeps saying. Chat G, G, B, T.S. he's so fired. Okay, bro. No, no, David, you're not new to anything. We read the passage. It doesn't say when that happens. Okay. It just tells you that this event will occur. Right? That's it. So why do people take that and place it before the tribulation?

[David Lee Corbo]

Because I don't want to suffer, though.

[Ben Bennis]

Because you don't want to suffer. There's actually zero indicators in the Bible as to when the tribulation happens. There's some inklings that it's more than likely after. After the. Or actually, I should say at the Great White Throne judgment, which is at the end of time. Do you want me to read that one? This is, in my opinion, like, the greatest indicator as to when the rapture happens. Do you want me to read it? Yeah. Okay. Revelation 20, verses 11 or verse 11. And then I'll. I'll read a little bit beyond that. Okay.

[Top Lobster]

And I saw a great white throne and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was Found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God. And the books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books and according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it. So this is like the. This where we're. We're hinting at this post trip sort of thing, right?

[Ben Bennis]

Well, first off, in the middle of verse 11, right there, we've got different translations pulled up in mine. It says the earth and heavens fled from his presence. You guys know the. Or are you familiar with the reference? Like that the heavens are wrapped up like a scroll. That he sure. Eliminates the old earth and creates a new earth and a new heaven. And then we spend eternity with Christ on the new earth. We don't spend eternity with Christ in heaven. Are you guys are familiar with this?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Ben Bennis]

Okay, good. You would be surprised how many Christians believe we spend eternity with. With God in heaven. And they don't read Revelation 21, which says that there's a new heaven and a new earth, and. And he descends from heaven with the new Jerusalem. It descends on earth and he rules from the new Jerusalem for all eternity with us on the new Earth. That's eternity for Christians. We do not spend eternity in heaven. That's why it's funny. Pre Tribulation says we escape tribulation, we escape suffering. We go to heaven for seven years, then we come back down for the millennial reign for a thousand years. Then there's the judgment that we just read, the Great White Throne Judgment. So we go back up for judgment and then come back down to the new earth for eternity. What? When you lay it out like that, it sounds kind of ridiculous. What? Why would we go to heaven only to then come back down to Earth? Wouldn't I just want to be in heaven? Like I'm already with God, right? You see what I'm saying? We're already in the presence of God for seven years. And now he's like, okay, guys, party's over. We got to go back to Earth where there's actually in the millennial reign pre Tribulation. I'm sorry. Dispensationalists will say this. There's still sin, there's still death. Satan is then later released at the end of the thousand years and deceives the nations again. And we get to be right back dab smack in the middle of it. That's awesome. I can't wait for that.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's the whole little seasoners thing, too.

[Ben Bennis]

Well, they, they take that. They take that a particular way and come to a really silly conclusion. But dispensationalists believe exactly what I just laid out. You know what I'm saying? Or, or there is one rapture event which is at the Judgment Day, the Great White Throne Judgment, where, like we read in Thessalonians, Christ is coming down in the clouds. He never comes to earth, okay? And it says the dead in Christ are coming with him, and then we are caught up with them to be with him forever. Where are we with God forever or with Christ forever on the new Earth? You see what I'm saying? So, like, this, to me is. Is probably one of the biggest, like, deceptions within Christianity. And I don't want to, but I feel like I have to, like, war against dispensationalism because it's setting us up for failure, bros. For massive, massive failure. It's escapism. You know, it's. I don't even know why people are like, why are Christians obsessed with Trump if they think everything has to get worse and the world has to go to.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, that's a lot of my questioning when it comes to even the, the whole Epstein thing. It's like, like I was saying at the top of the show, it's a really unpopular opinion. If I should say, are we called to save the world? Are we called to mobilize and rid the world of a satanic cabal that traffics children and all this other crap? And then, and then what it's like is that what the Bible tells us is even going to happen, because I'm pretty sure the world keeps worlding all the way to the tribulation, you know what I mean? It's like from the jump to now, they've been, you know, trafficking children, worshiping false idols and gods and making slaves of men, etc. Etc. I don't see anywhere in scripture where we're called to, to rectify that. And, and people get really upset about that. But it's the same thing.

[Ben Bennis]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

With Trump or anything else. It's like I look around and I go, it looks very much like we're in end times prophecy. It's just my opinion. I mean, I get every generation thought that they were there, and, and maybe I'm an idiot, you know, so my word doesn't.

[Ben Bennis]

I believe you. I agree with you, bro. I actually do think that there is an end times upon us. Okay. But I don't think it's because this is this is going to be. This is going to sound crazy. I don't think it's. Because it's. What organically would have happened had dispensationalism not existed.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, that's interesting.

[Ben Bennis]

Listen, I mean, I'm trying to. I'm trying to verbalize it, okay? It's a. It's. It sounds weird even in my head. So if. If dispensationalism didn't exist, I don't think the end times would look like what they're going to look like. Okay. I actually think in God's foreknowledge and prophecy, he incorporated the dispensational deception into his prophecy. Okay? And I'll give you. I'll give you examples. I know it sounds insane, but hear me out. Without dispensationalism, Israel would never exist as a nation. Okay. Historically, we're talking about Balfour Declaration, Post World War I, right. Dispensationalism was already the rage in England and in America. And there were dispensationalists or dispy. What are they called? Politicians who thought Israel has to become a nation again. That's what dispensationalism says. And so they colluded to give Israel back their land. This is the Balfour Declaration. Okay. And the people behind it in England and America were dispensationalists, bro. Post war, after World War II, after the Holocaust, who was the president? Roosevelt. Theodore Roosevelt, I believe. I think I'm bad with. I'm bad with the American history. He literally said, I am King Cyrus. Do you guys know who King Cyrus is?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, that's the non. He wasn't Jewish, but he was a king in Israel. Right. Or he wasn't even.

[Ben Bennis]

Was he actually Babylonian? I believe it was Babylonian. He's the one that gave or that helped Israel back in the day and I believe let them go from Babylon to go re. Establish their country. So.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right, right.

[Ben Bennis]

Roosevelt says, I am Cyrus. These guys all knew exactly what they were doing because they were fulfilling the prophecies. You see what I'm saying?

[Top Lobster]

When we had that. Sorry, I always feel like you're good. Always comes back to this one, dude. But when we had that debate with him and he tried to get slippery at that moment, I took like major offense to that.

[David Lee Corbo]

Which moment? Which slippery moment?

[Top Lobster]

Well, it was. I think it was a big one because he was calling basically really calling us stupid about this specific thing where he was saying that, well, you know, dispensationalists would want.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, right.

[Ben Bennis]

They would.

[Top Lobster]

They would be against Disclosure, they're the Collins elite. And we said, no, no, no, it's the other way around.

[David Lee Corbo]

They like accelerationism.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, they're accelerationists. They are moving towards this and they're actually creating it. And, and he. Anyway, but I'm just like, man, what a.

[David Lee Corbo]

Like.

[Top Lobster]

But he, he tried to play on like this idea of, I don't know, I guess like the younger generation not liking Israel and then perverting that idea to slip in his. Yeah, which was the incorrect assumption. But like if you, so if you don't know these things or some historical fact, I guess you'd be like, yeah, Israel bad. Like, you know, Israel bad. Therefore.

[David Lee Corbo]

And now they're trying to bring about end times, the fulfillment of end times prophecy, bro.

[Ben Bennis]

Okay, think about it, think about it. So, so dispies are the only ones within Christianity that are actively trying to self fulfill their own prophecies. Okay. I give the, I gave the example. World War I, Balfour Declaration, Theodore Roosevelt, post World War II. Okay. Nowadays though, nowadays dispies support this like on unorganic or nonsensical blind support for the nation of Israel. Right. The worship of Israel in my opinion is strictly based in dispensationalism. Okay. Evangelical dispensationalism. And they are donating money to causes like the building of the Third Temple. Right. The building of the Third Temple is going to be a pagan satanic synagogue. A temple. It's like donating money to a Hindu temple, a mosque. It's like donating money to anything that worships Satan because guess what? They're not going to worship Jesus in the Third Temple. Okay, so Third Temple is something that Christians are donating money to help finance. Yeah, the breeding of the red heifers to be slaughtered.

[David Lee Corbo]

That red heifer thing was the moment I. Because, you know, a lot of the Israel biblical aspect is, is really new to me. So the conspiracy side, and I got to admit even, even 20 years in the conspiracy realm, it's the Jews was a constant theme and I would constantly be like, I don't know, I'm not.

[Ben Bennis]

That doesn't.

[David Lee Corbo]

It just seems too blanket. And I would push it to the side once I started to, to really take my, my walk with Christ and, and you know, take Christianity seriously and start looking at it. Of course all these, these elements pop up. Right. You have to now start looking into the temple and, and, and Israel and all this other. But the red he was something of a. I don't know if watershed moment is the correct terminology to use here. It was, it Was a, a pivoting point where I was like, oh, there is a real effort to manufacture prophecy. Which then, you know, another question sprouts from that is like, if it's manufactured, is it prophecy? You know what I mean? Like, I don't. That's an interesting thing because let's say

[Top Lobster]

hypothetically, what did John see? Did he see manufactured prophecy or did he, bro?

[Ben Bennis]

But that's why, that's why I preface this by saying that I believe Christ or God accounted for this in the revelations, okay? Because without this system, nobody would have been there to self fulfill these prophecies. You see what I'm saying? So it's a system of self fulfilling prophecies. That's what this is. And the red heifers were bred by dispensationalists in Texas. Yeah, sold to the Third Temple Institute or the Temple Institute.

[David Lee Corbo]

Think about that. The fulfillment of prophecy. Okay? So obviously you know, you're breeding it for the fulfillment of prophecy, but also like it's quite a bit of money that they're willing to shell out to you for these heifers. So it's like you're, you're making money off of manufacturing prophecy. Like, what a crazy place to be, dude.

[Ben Bennis]

This is what I'm saying. So, so where in the Bible does it tell us ever to fulfill the prophecies ourselves? Aren't they just supposed to be predictors by God's foreknowledge of what will happen, irrelevant of what we do or what we try or what our ambitions are? So I've never, I can't say I've ever seen a prophecy where somebody read it. Like in the, in scripture. Somebody reads it and then is like, I gotta go do that because it was prophesied. You see what I'm saying? And they all are doing this. The dispies believe that the quit preacher rapture. Here we go. That's why I said preach in rapture earlier, you know, that was the emphasis. Because they believe the quicker they fulfill these prophecies, the quicker the rapture will happen and the quicker Christ will return. So it's in their best interest. This is why they're doing it. They're trying to expedite Christ's return by fulfilling the prophecies themselves. Right?

[David Lee Corbo]

But that's what I'm called to do. We're called to make disciples of men. We're called to go forth and sin no more, right? Like we have a pretty simple thing that we're, we're called to do. You're right. In The Bible, it never calls us to get involved in the machine that manufactures prophecy. Build the machine to manufacture the prophecy is not it.

[Top Lobster]

Make yourself look like an. On the way. On the way there. Yeah, Derek Gilbert was somebody a while ago where, you know, Matt's like, oh, my heart's heavy. Why are you arguing with Darrell Gilbert?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Top Lobster]

And it was around Christmas time, I

[David Lee Corbo]

think it was because we were at that thing with the kids.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, yeah. And. And he's like, he's saying to Ben Shapiro on Twitter, he's giving Ben Shapiro advice. Hey, next time you talk about the USS Liberty, rather than saying, don't, you know, there's nothing here. Don't worry about it. Tell them the Jews were justified. That the Jews were justified in doing it because America had a submarine that was in contact with Egypt or one of those other countries during their Seven Day War, Six Day War, or whatever it was. And I'm like, Derek, do you realize that this makes you look like an. And of course, you know, my language is crass. And he's a man of God. So we get into it kind of like back and forth. And I'm like, where do you live, Derek? And he's like, I live in. I think it was. He lived like the Ozark somewhere in Missouri. Oh, yeah, yeah. And I was like, is that Israel or do you live in Israel? Because what he's saying is 100. Correct. Israel is justified in sinking or attacking an American submarine and killing 30 some odd men and then giving reparations and then acting like it never happened. It was justified because Americans were sending communications to Egypt. But here's the thing, we live in America. And I'm like, you have to choose a side. It's like, at this point, it's very.

[David Lee Corbo]

Or rather, if you're going to choose a side, you don't. I don't think you have to necessarily, but you cannot choose the other side. I'm going to remove myself from this, you know, worldly thing, even though I pay taxes to it and all this other stuff. But what is Caesar's Right?

[Top Lobster]

If you're gonna pick. If you're gonna pick a side in what happened here in this situation, it's very clear. And I can look at it objectively and say Israel was right for attacking because America was doing an aggressive act against espionage. Yeah, they're doing espionage against Israel. Understandable. Here's the problem. Me as an American. It doesn't matter what our, our, our government is doing or what our army is doing there. If you kill American citizens, we got to kill you back. That's how it goes every time. Every single instance of this happening, there's a retaliation. There was nothing, nothing happened. And that speaks volumes. And, and then the fact that, you know, these evangelical dispensationalists are so comfortable saying it later on. You're giving advice to somebody who is a propagandist, an Israeli propagandist that's operating inside of Tennessee in the United States.

[David Lee Corbo]

You're giving advice to an Israeli state, you know, agent, basically, I mean, that's what he is, you know, boys.

[Ben Bennis]

But, but you guys have seen like in the past, what is it, maybe past three months, six months now. Did you guys see that article that came out or the, the news statement that came out that Israel is going to be financing 10,000 evangelical Christian pastors and influencers to come out to Israel and be educated on why they should continue to propagate and support Israel within the congregation. No, no, no, this is, this is a point, this is not, this is not a conspiracy thing.

[David Lee Corbo]

You could look at $3.2 million, an Israeli backed campaign, show faith by Works LLC as a campaign involves go fencing 32 plus major mega churches.

[Ben Bennis]

Right? That's a different op. That's where after TPUSA, after TPUSA had their stadium memorial for Charlie Kirk, right?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Ben Bennis]

Israel geotagged everybody that was there, then followed them to their churches on Sundays, geotagged each of those churches. So they knew who to target from now on with propaganda to support Israel. Because even to this day, without modern evangelical dispensational support, Israel will be eviscerated. We are the ones, we are the bully on the block that's protecting the little brother overseas in the Middle east, otherwise all the other, all the other bullies would just kill him. You know what I'm saying?

[David Lee Corbo]

You got to ask yourself if you're, if you're part of one of these mega churches and you find out that like whatever your pastor or your church is receiving funding from Israel, you go, wait, wait, you're talking about the same group of people that do not believe that Jesus Christ is the Messiah. Exactly. And, and I mean it's literally, I mean the only way to the Father is through the Son, right? It is. Jesus states that explicitly. So whatever they're doing, even though they fundamentally don't believe that they're willing to, to fund this organization, this megachurch, this pastor, you have to imagine then that they, they're, they're doing a thing that isn't in alignment with Christ of Course, because they don't know that

[Ben Bennis]

it's Antichrist. It's not. It's not that they're neutral on the subject. They haven't made their mind up, right? And live and let live. That's not the position. Their position, the Talmudic Jewish position is, which is the. The standard Judaism, okay, for religious Jews, is that Jesus was a false prophet. He was a black magician. He was killed by the Jews, rightfully that he's in hell for all eternity, boiling in a vat of human shit. That is the Talmudic judic Judaic position, okay? So they are not neutral. They are literally Antichrist. They are against Christ, okay? So. So it's interesting to me that we are all about separation of church and state, except if it's Israel that's involved in funding and influencing and propagandizing the Christian church, then we're okay. Then we're okay. You know, this is the dumpster fire that is Christian evangelicalism. It's not a surprise. It's not a surprise to me whatsoever that evangelicalism with the younger, like, generations, like, I guess post boomers, is. It's. Everybody's leaving. Everybody's leaving because it's impossible. Unless you've done the mental dispensational gymnastics for the past 30, 40 years as a boomer, it's impossible to support this nation anymore. Israel, once the veil has been pulled back on all the shenanigans they're doing and the Epstein files, this is how we got here, is just the latest freaking piece to their evil satanic puzzle. Do you see what I'm saying? This is why I've come to the conclusion, bro, this sucks, because I grew up dispensational. Hey, until two years ago, life was hunky dory, you know, Right? I had no problems with it. And then as things started happening, especially after October 7, as a Christian and seeing pastors stand up on freaking stage in front of their thousands of congregants and being like, israel should turn all of Gaza into glass with their nukes so that we could usher in the coming of Christ and there's Israeli flat Israeli flags on stage being waved, and the whole congregation is like, yeah, yeah. I'm like, when I went to. As a Christian church, I'm like, go ahead. Oh, I don't. I. I don't think. I. I don't think we're on the same page. I think I need to figure this out a little bit more because that's. That's evil. That's evil. So I can't be associated with that.

[David Lee Corbo]

I went to a church before the current one. So the last one that I went to before this current one, and I sat in there one time as megachurch, two floors, cafe, really nice, good breakfast selection. And slide. What's that? It didn't have. What had a slide, but to get to the lower level. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was a white woman in dreadlocks on the stage. She's jamming out, doing her thing and. And you know, they start doing their whatever uplifting speech and they're talking about Israel. And this was around the time that Israel, you know, the Israel, Gaza thing was really at its height.

[Ben Bennis]

This was probably.

[David Lee Corbo]

Maybe this is before I left. So about a year ago maybe. How long have I been in town?

[Top Lobster]

I'm new in town.

[David Lee Corbo]

I'm new in town. And. And they basically talked about all the kids that were dying.

[Top Lobster]

AIDS and.

[Ben Bennis]

But I'm a nice guy, so.

[David Lee Corbo]

So all the, all the kids that were dying in this and you know, in Gaza.

[Ben Bennis]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

And the sentiment was pretty much like, I'm paraphrasing. It's been a while kids.

[Ben Bennis]

Right?

[David Lee Corbo]

It was like as many kids as it takes to, you know, because. Because Christ is going to return. And this is all.

[Top Lobster]

We're all,

[Ben Bennis]

bro. How is this human sacrifice any different than what any of the other people we despise are perpetrating abortion? Epstein. Canaanites. Yeah. How is this any freaking different? You're. You're egging on mass murder. I'm not defending Palestine. I'm not saying what they did on October 7th is right. I'm not hating the Jews. I'm not anti Semitic. What I'm saying is biblically, the argument to support them is not there. And we should not support sin. Sin. We should call it out as Christians publicly from the pulpit. I don't care about your stupid theology or your eschatology, okay? When a nation is in blatant open rebellion to Christ and sin, we should speak out against that. And our. And our disposition towards them as a people, as a culture, as a ethnic group is not. I hate the Jews. They're responsible for everything. No, we can acknowledge they're responsible for a lot of evil. Yeah. And we should say, and I hope they repent and come to faith in Christ just like the Muslim, just like the Mormon, just like the Chinese, just like the Indian, just like anybody else.

[David Lee Corbo]

They're not specialists like the Chinaman, just

[Ben Bennis]

like the freaking Chinaman. But. But that's the thing. That's the thing. We should have the same the same level of disdain and love for everybody equally. We should not be supporting anybody blindly in what they're doing, you know?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, we should want everybody to come out of their own sin and follow Christ.

[Top Lobster]

What do you guys make of, like, the most influential people within this, like, the idea of the Nephilim? Because I know, you know, it's, it's a fun topic that we obviously we name the show sort of after and you probably talk about quite often, but the best people are huge, huge dispensationalists. Like the people that I started listening to about the Nephilim are like, so

[Ben Bennis]

I got theories, dog.

[Top Lobster]

Okay, well, I'd like to, can we, can you say them or will you get politely banned from society, perhaps?

[Ben Bennis]

It's okay. Who cares? I live in Idaho. I banned myself from society, bro. I, I, oh man. Let me think how to put this. For your sake, not mine.

[Top Lobster]

We don't care.

[David Lee Corbo]

Put it however you.

[Ben Bennis]

Okay.

[David Lee Corbo]

If you would have known the things, the battle we fought in the last year or so. Put it however you want.

[Top Lobster]

We're banned by an entire city.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's true.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[Ben Bennis]

Whoa. Lucky.

[David Lee Corbo]

I mean, it's mildly unlucky. If they weren't so gay, we could have had a really cool situation. But whatever. We've got a better one, A much better situation. It was, it was, it was, it was messy, but please, no, don't, don't, don't hold your tongue. Don't let her rip.

[Ben Bennis]

It's interesting that the majority of people within the aliens are the grand deception coming, which I, I agree. I think it is going to be a great deception. Right.

[David Lee Corbo]

I am among those retards. Yes.

[Ben Bennis]

I, I am as well. And I think if anything I have proved that I am also full. Okay. So I'm just saying I would, I,

[David Lee Corbo]

I dubbed the honorary dangerous. Yeah, I think that's fair.

[Ben Bennis]

Thank you. And okay, so it's interesting that the ones that are all about this and talking about how this is the great deception have done the greatest work in the field. Like the shoulders that we stand on. Right. It's interesting that the majority of them are dispensational. Okay. And it doesn't mean I disagree with what they're theorizing will be happening. I think we're seeing those things unfold. Right. But, but here's where the rubber hits the, meets the road for me, bro. I do not think the Bible supports that there will be a pre tribulation rapture. Right? So if there is a pre tribulation rapture, what do I Do with that. Or should I say if there is something that looks akin to a. Oh, what do I do with that?

[Top Lobster]

Well, tell them about your dream. You have your dream, right?

[David Lee Corbo]

Which? Oh, prophecy.

[Ben Bennis]

Lay it on us, bro.

[David Lee Corbo]

Which one? The one with the destroyed city and the, and the angel.

[Top Lobster]

I think you were the one where you're given a choice.

[David Lee Corbo]

No, no, no, no, no, I, I didn't have. Well, it wasn't a dream. Series of really strange waking events.

[Ben Bennis]

You've had a soundboard this whole time?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, we've had a sound, but we have all kinds of noises. I don't know what we got. We got another one. So. I mean, God, I don't have a. I don't have. I don't have so much. It wasn't a dream. It was this inclination. I'll. I'll make it short in a bridge. My entire life I had a lot of dreams about being in a post apocalyptic world. Military lockdown, yada yada. Those subsided before I reached 20, I think. And, and, and though they really informed kind of, among other things, my obsession with conspiracy and such. And I always had this notion that if there were to be rapture, that I would, I would choose to stay behind. Now, now, that's not anything I ever shared with anybody. I kept it to myself because what a retarded thing to say out loud. And. But I was listening to a, a podcast one day and this guy who used to be a horrifying drug addict, I think even like a 1% warlock or something. Oh, he was a warlock. That's right.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Comes to Christ, denounces his old, and he's given his testimony. Long story short, he says something. He says the Holy Spirit revealed a number of things to him, but one of the things that was revealed to him is that there would be. Why the sins of their leaders, that's

[Top Lobster]

where it comes from.

[David Lee Corbo]

Would be. Damn, there we go.

[Top Lobster]

We've been talking about this for a while and we couldn't figure out what it was.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, we have that one too. Oh, that one's. No, we just got copyright strike, so.

[Ben Bennis]

So allow me.

[David Lee Corbo]

There would be a time when the sins of their leaders would be laid out to, you know, humanity. And, and shortly after that, within the same season. He doesn't know what that time frame is. He just. That was the thing. Season within that season. He has no idea when that is. There would be a rapture. And, and I, and so I'm sitting there and I'm listening to this, enjoying a cigar on my back porch. And it's nighttime and I go. In my mind, I go, like, actually, I pause it and I'm like, that's fascinating. Because to me that sounds like the Epstein thing. This is like a few months.

[Top Lobster]

You probably talk to yourself right? By yourself.

[David Lee Corbo]

No, no, no, I don't. I don't do it out loud, but I do a lot of pondering, monologuing. No, well, internals. So. So. And I think I had that thought. I go, you know, just kind of flippantly like, I'd probably choose to stay behind though. And. And the reason I would choose to stay behind is because, number one, I don't think that I. I learned everything that I learned to then take the first bus out of here. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like people need help. I'm a dude that is equipped to help.

[Ben Bennis]

Not worried about how selfish a preacher.

[David Lee Corbo]

Very selfish, I think, to take the. To first bus out of here, right?

[Top Lobster]

Like, what are we doing this for?

[David Lee Corbo]

What good is all the information that I've accrued if I'm just gonna slide when this.

[Top Lobster]

There's a lot of recorded, so go ahead and hit that up.

[David Lee Corbo]

Don't forget to leave a five star review. So I'm thinking about that. I press play again and all of a sudden he goes. Another thing that the Holy Spirit revealed to me is that there will be a remnant of people who will choose to stay behind door. And when that happened, which is like, I don't know who this guy is, and I don't know if he's just talking shit, but it literally brought a tear to my eye. And the second it brought a tear to my eye, I looked up and a star struck across the sky in the night. And I went, what the. And then that night I went to sleep and I had a dream that I was in a ravaged cityscape. And there were people that were like, kind of getting on, you know, with their lives, trying to create new systems. And there was a. An angel. And. And this angel, by the way, looked like, like an, like angelman, I think it's called from Digimon.

[Top Lobster]

His brain's all up.

[David Lee Corbo]

Something like that. I don't know if it looked like that at first, but it's in the sky and it's warning. And I'm not buying it because I'm in this. In this mode of like, everything's a conspiracy and everything's a lie. So I'm like throwing rocks at it and the rocks are passing through it, and then it goes away for a time. So anyway, I go to this. This disheveled, broken down building where people are, you know, they're there, they're going through. Everybody's still kind of high spirits. There was literally some raiders who were covered in blood after they just got back doing something. And I knew the guy and I was like, yo, what up, dog? And he was like, hey, what's going on, man? And I kept walking past him. I go into this building and all of a sudden somebody shows me this ancient text. And in this ancient text, there is the name of this angel. I can't pronounce it. It's in a language I've never seen before. But I knew when I saw it, I was like, oh, shit, that angel was real. And I went back outside and it ended up coming back. I don't remember the rest of the dream. The final cherry on top. My son wakes up that morning, tells me about a dream that he has. He's on a floating city in the sky over a destroyed landscape. And I don't remember, like, what he said after that, but I'm just looking at this kid going like, okay. Like, I don't even know what to say to him. But yeah, I don't even know where to place that. It's not something that I've heard people express outside of this one thing. The idea of being left behind, choosing to stay behind during the rapture is. Is not something that is biblical. Even so, it could be total. Who knows? I could have been programmed by some sort of aliens, whatever, in an abduction experience to believe some total lie. But it was. I'd never heard anybody say it. I thought about it. I unpause the show. He said it. Which was already then. I look up. A star streaks across the sky. I'm so shook up by this, I share it with my wife, which is beyond. Okay, Ben. Ben. Okay.

[Top Lobster]

Are we crazy? Ben? Ben, are we crazy? Chad? Are we crazy? Yeah.

[Ben Bennis]

Well, like, there's different. Crazy is a spectrum. Right? So now I'm just playing. Hey, I. I don't doubt what you're saying. Like, I don't doubt that there may be. That there may be something that goes down that's very, very different than what dispensationalists have led us all to believe. Because that's. That's what we've all grown up in.

[David Lee Corbo]

By the way, you can trash this because I'm totally okay with the idea that, like, I know the series of events that happened to me were real. I don't know that that was the truth.

[Ben Bennis]

Yeah, there's no way to. There's no way to like crazy for sure. There's no way for us to tell you if that was from God or from the enemy. There's no way for us to tell you that. Right? You need to test the spirits. You need to be in prayer. You need to be asking God if this is from you. You need confirmation. You, that's your relationship with Christ, right? For me hearing there's no denying the chain of events that you described. Right? Those things would be very coincidental if they were just chance, but sounds very supernatural in my opinion. The chain of events and then the dreams and then your son's dream. But the crazy thing is to me what that if it is true, if that is from God, what that would lead me to believe is that there's going to be something that happens which is similar to what dispies have been touting for the past hundred seventy years about a pre trib rapture. But it's actually not going to be a pre trib rapture. It's going to be something else. It's going to be. I wonder.

[David Lee Corbo]

I know exactly what you're saying. And I wonder, like, let's say it was like a demonic deception. Let's say they utilize technology because we know that they're reverse engineering this and that.

[Ben Bennis]

Call it, call it the alien rapture.

[Top Lobster]

Sure, sure, sure.

[David Lee Corbo]

But you know, aliens is even. That's like a, but like that's a good.

[Top Lobster]

Well then who goes up, right?

[David Lee Corbo]

Who goes up? Who would they be taking, I wonder?

[Top Lobster]

They're retarding,

[Ben Bennis]

bro.

[David Lee Corbo]

They have enough metal in their heads that they can get magnet pulled up to the.

[Ben Bennis]

Hold on, hold on.

[Top Lobster]

That would be a good way to know, right? Like if you, if you know somebody of good discernment, somebody that you're looking at and you're like, if that guy goes, then that's legit. You know, if he stays, maybe, maybe.

[Ben Bennis]

But hey, here's the thing. We know alien abductions are real, right?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Ben Bennis]

We believe this, we know this. We've talked to them, right? Wilkinson, etc. Okay. Can Christians be abducted?

[David Lee Corbo]

Seems that way.

[Ben Bennis]

Yep. Can non Christians be abducted?

[David Lee Corbo]

Also seems that way.

[Ben Bennis]

Okay, so we have no idea who would get abducted if there was an alien pre trib rapture. We have no idea. There's no way for us to speculate or to say, I don't think anybody's immune. I'd be curious. This, this is where this led me. Have you guys read the book or heard of Carl Payne Spiritual Warfare?

[David Lee Corbo]

No.

[Ben Bennis]

Really good book. I'll send it to you. Oh, dude, he like 40 years of experience in casting out demons, specifically out of Christians. Maybe not because they're possessed, but he calls it demonized. So they're affected by the demonic in some way and it always comes down to unrepentant sin. Okay. And not knowing who you are or what authority you have, your current standing in Christ, your true identity is very fair. Okay, so the Christians that have experienced those abduction phenomenon, why would a Christian with unrepentant sin and not knowing his identity in Christ be susceptible to demonic activity here. Right. In this way that Carl describes in his book, but not be susceptible to demonic activity in a different way like abduction? Why would they, why would they be able to possess or demonize but not with them while they're asleep? You know what I'm saying? I think there might be genuine Christians who are abducted if there's a alien pre trib rapture. I also think there would be non Christians who are abducted during an alien pre trib rapture. I also think that there's going to be a lot of dispensationalists who are abducted during an alien pre trip rapture. Why? Because from a satanic strategic perspective, what do you think that would do to the people that are left behind? Do you think that that would, do you think that that would force them away from Christianity or towards it? Where do you think they would go?

[David Lee Corbo]

It's hard to say because I know

[Top Lobster]

if I missed the boat, if I

[David Lee Corbo]

missed the boat, I would say, then it's imperative now that I, I get more right because it looks like I'm not going to get the boat out of here, but I've got eternity ahead of me.

[Ben Bennis]

More right as in, hey, I was wrong before. Who was right though? Who was right?

[Top Lobster]

Oh, hold on one second.

[Ben Bennis]

Hit it.

[Top Lobster]

You earned it.

[Ben Bennis]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Top Lobster]

That's a crazy thought. That's.

[David Lee Corbo]

What if it's just boomers?

[Top Lobster]

No, what if you're right? You're right. You're in good standing. Yeah, but we see this happen around us and then we go, oh, what did I miss? I have to be more right. All right, well what's more right? Jesus plus. What's that? Jesus plus Jesus plus whatever.

[Ben Bennis]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

And then you start to get mixed up.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Ben Bennis]

Hey, so where does that lead? Even solid Christ believing, spirit filled Christians, where does that lead us? To panic and run to?

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, I would imagine a lot of your own understanding. Well, your own understanding, but I think a lot of people consider the law after that like, they might look to Jews and be like, oh, shit, is it adherence to the law? Because it's like, as soon as you get messed up and you think like, oh, it's not faith. It's not grace through faith. Like, salvation doesn't come through just believing. Like, salvation just passed. Was it the law? I don't know. Then you would look at the Jews and be like, they're still here.

[Top Lobster]

Moses goes up. He goes up the mountain, and the Jews immediately turn to whatever is closest to them to get what they needed. Yeah, they turned to halfway. They turned to Moloch.

[David Lee Corbo]

I would say Gnosis would probably be like, if you start going. Because somebody said, oh, oh, actually, yeah,

[Top Lobster]

that's actually what it would be. I mean, Christians would turn to idol worship. There would be a certain period in time where they're like, damn, we have to get more right? And then they'll look at it and they'll look. I mean, the people who read in the Bible, if you're really that fool, they'd be like, we did. We did what we were supposed to do. Like, what. What else did I need to do?

[Ben Bennis]

Hey, let me. Let me put this out there though, okay? If Satan is. Dude, he's not dumb. You guys have to, like, understand. Satan's a freaking evil genius, bro, okay? And he's been strategizing at this for millennia, okay? He's been putting this together and his goal is to deceive us Christians. He's already got non Christians. They are already his. They do not need to be deceived anymore. His attention, I think, will be turned on us. If not already, it is on us with the great deception. Right? What does it specifically say? If it were not for the chosen in those days, God would have. Or God had to. Damn, I wish I could quote it right now. God had to shorten those days. If not, not even the elect would be alive or something like that. There would be nobody left. Even. Even the elect. Or if they. I'm sorry. If the elect could be deceived. That's why he had to shorten those days, so that not even the elector deceived. There's. There's an element that is targeted towards us, the Christians. We are the ones he needs to deceive. So. So if there is a alien pre trib rapture, okay, and it's a hodgepodge of people that go up, there's pastors that are gone, there's pastors that are left, there's Christians that are gone, there's Christians that are left. There's non believers that are gone, there's non Christians that are left. Would that not be the most chaotic perfect situation from a strategic spiritual standpoint? Do you understand what that would do? Do you have, bro, we're bickering about every freaking theological debate in Israel and everything else, right as Christians, Calvinism, Armenianism, preacher, poster, who gives a crap? If that goes down and the people taken is a hodgepodge, it's going to be pure chaos within the church itself. Okay dude, you know what's crazy?

[Top Lobster]

The more, the more you build your profile like because if that theory, that is a very plausible theory, but the more you build your public profile the way we're doing now, we're probably one of the people that would be taken because it would have to be an example, you know what I'm saying?

[Ben Bennis]

Like the leaders, it's impossible. But here, here's what I think, bro. I think Christians who are left behind and non Christians who are left behind will all be attracted to the people who for the past 170 years have been saying there's going to be a pre Trib rapture. Who are the dispensationalists? Any dispensationalists that are left, any pastors, any churches that are left behind. Right. I think are going to be swarmed because people, even non Christians, non Christians know we're calling for a rapture. Right. This isn't like news Joe Rogan talks about. A bunch of people talk about Christians in the rapture, but I think people will say, oh my God, they were right. So flood. There's going to be a flood of people turning to dispensationalism. Even though this wasn't actually a God ordained or, or a Christ perpetrated rapture, it's something else. It's a dispensation.

[Top Lobster]

We're not just one degree away from what the message was because dispensationalism is like already a degree away from what it's supposed to be. Now you're another degree removed and you're almost completely lost. You'd have to get back to original dispensationalism to then rediscover the roots. That's dangerous. But then I guess the question would be what is a dispensationalist pastor preaching on post rapture, Post pre trib rapture, you know what I'm saying?

[Ben Bennis]

Yeah, maybe the mid trip were right. But no, he can't, he can't say maybe they're right because the event just happened.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well no, because what he's what he's

[Ben Bennis]

going to say is I, this is my sin. This is why I was left behind. I didn't confess this sin. They're going to come up with reasons they were left behind, you know what I'm saying? They're going to come up with stuff. They're going to, they're going to think on the spot as to why they were left behind. But Joe Schmo, his assistant pastor was taken. Okay? And interestingly enough this if, if people flood to dispy churches, okay, what's, what's going to happen for support for Israel?

[Top Lobster]

Oh, it's gonna go crazy.

[Ben Bennis]

Through the roof, baby. Interestingly enough, one of the tenants within Talmudic Judaism and dispensationalism is Jewish supremacy in the end times. What if this is how the whole world becomes like BFFs with with Israel and allows them to tear down the Dome of the Rock, build their temple instantly. Anything they say we have to support because the dispies were right. You see what I'm saying? Hey. Then they build at their temple, they spark that up. And do you think God shows up? Yahweh, the God of the Old Testament shows up? No, I don't think so. I think Satan shows up. I think when, when Jesus in John 8 says you are of your father the devil. If you knew, if you knew my father you would accept me. But you don't because you are of your father the devil and you do his works. And in Revelation when he says I will make those who call themselves Jews but are not they are liars. I will make them a synagogue of Satan. I don't think Jesus is joking when he says that there is a group of ethnic Jews. Not all, I'm not blaming all who are maybe a Satanic mimicry, a replication of God's at one point elect the Jews and Satan has mimicked that and is now using it to perpetrate an end times deception through which what happens to the beast in the book of Revelation? He gets inhabited by Satan himself, through the Jews, through Jewish supremacy. At some point Satan himself incarnates and rules the world. Seed war. He does what he did in the beginning with the Nephilim, conquered the world.

[Top Lobster]

If so if you have whatever churches are left and they will, they will probably be flooded like everybody will be going to church the that Sunday after the the pre trib alien rapture that points people then to crazy dispensationalism supporting Israel Hyper dispensation which we've never seen before. That's why when you said it, it's jarring to me because I'm like, how could you support Israel even more as the church? But yet I think, what else is there to give? But then, like, you extrapolate that down so that, yeah, they do those things. They build the temple, they usher in the Antichrist. Now we have this figure, and I think that scripture will be so on the back burner. Like, actual scripture. We already have, like, whatever these people say to us, that's what we believe, and that's our doctrine. The doctrine will just be pointed at the Antichrist and then the people who have enough sense to say, hold on a second. I don't think that this is right. I think that that's the Antichrist. There'll be pretty good reason, pretty good consensus for the population in general to want to, I don't know, let's say, behead them, right? Or persecute them that are actually, that

[Ben Bennis]

is this one world religion. They'd be. They'd be the ones, the solid Christians who see what this just was, okay? They'd be the ones being like, no, stop. This is part of the deceptions. It's on par with the aliens, okay? Like, this is the great deception. We'd be the ones still on these platforms saying this if they allow us. And then we'd be the ones who. We'd be the ones who they would absolutely persecute because we are standing up against the deception within Christianity. Our own people would want our heads. Our own Christians would want our heads because they think they're going to freaking miss the next Rapture because of us.

[David Lee Corbo]

I think that when they would usher in, you know, the Antichrist, man of perdition.

[Top Lobster]

That's right. We're standing in the way of progress.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, that's a lot of the issue I've been so that this would be. Because. Because the alien aspect, I don't think it would just serve the Rapture angle. I think that you would get a really, really profound and shocking but still acceptable because of how profound it is version of Christ. You know, something that the New age talks about, like a Pleiadian kind of a Jesus, right? We make fun of him because he wears a blue jumpsuit and silver boots. But if you could present something that was, you know, an ascended master Jesus or. Or something maybe that comes from this alien thing where it's like, Jesus was real, just not in the way that you understood, in your limited understanding, he was from the star system Pleiades or what the hell ever. Because I imagine that whatever emerges as the Antichrist would. Would be received as Christ. And it would also.

[Ben Bennis]

Hey, for some people it will, Dave. But here, here's the thing. Funny that the Israeli flag has a star on it. You know, they seem to be very obsessed with stars. Their Messiah. Dispensationalists believe this. Christians almost unanimously believe this. Their Messiah. Who they are waiting for to emerge is the Christian Antichrist. This is a. This is not really argued anymore, right? Or argued about anymore. That that Antichrist figure in Revelation, it says that he is indwelt by Satan. At a certain point he becomes indwelt by Satan. Right? And so what is the result of dispensationalism? Even if everything I just said is insane and crazy and they're right, and there is a legit pre Trib rapture and there is a legit 7 year tribulation, even though the term 7 year tribulation is not in the book of Revelation or anywhere in the Bible for that matter. Look that up. There's no seven year tribulation in the Bible.

[Top Lobster]

Even in the book of Daniel he talks about. I forget how many weeks it is, but it does.

[Ben Bennis]

Three and a half weeks. Three and a half weeks. And there is a. Yeah, but, but hey, that's when Daniel is interpreted through dispensationalism. That you put a 2,000 year gap between week 69 and week 70 so that you can make the last week a seven year tribulation. And the word seven year tribulation or seven tribulation. Nowhere in the Bible there's three and a half years in Daniel. And then there's another mention of three and a half years in Revelation. Who said you got to combine those things? We're talking about how many hundreds of years separation between those two prophecies. And you think you get to combine them even though the church never did for 1970 years. That's weird.

[Top Lobster]

Interesting.

[Ben Bennis]

But, but all this to say there is a point in time where Satan incarnates into this world. Okay? And I think that's what the deception is about. From his perspective, it's him taking dominion over this world once again as he's tried doing before with his freaking spawn, the Nephilim. Right? That's what the pre flood world was. And last time God sends a flood to wipe that out. Right? But we don't have any mention of Satan incarnating pre flood. I wonder if God nipped it in the bud before he had the opportunity to. You know, but in Revelation it does. It does say that he will inhabit the beast not the Antichrist. The word Antichrist is not in Revelation. Take that to the bank. The beast is. And he is the one that isn't dwelt by Satan. But if that sets him up as the world ruler, which is basically what we all believe will happen, right? It takes Christ himself coming back to Earth to stop him. This time it's not a flood. It's not. They've advanced beyond where they were at pre flood, you know, they've advanced beyond technologically and now Christ himself has to come back to stop Satan and what he's doing. It takes an extra level of effort on God's part to stop what Satan's freaking doing. That's how bad it is. That's how bad it is, man. And interestingly enough, like I said, the, the beast or the Antichrist from our perspective is the Jewish Messiah that they're waiting for. So dispensationalism brings about through their support of Israel and the third temple and the red heifers and all the self fulfilled freaking prophecies brings about Satan's dominion over the freaking Earth.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's what you're rooting for. What happens is Jesus.

[Ben Bennis]

But then what happens is Jesus, and then that expedites the millennial reign and we come back from the Rapture. So it's, it's all about our comfort, our safety, right, because we're not going to be here. Screw everybody else. Screw everybody else. The word raptures.

[David Lee Corbo]

No, because if you remember Ben, in, in the Bible it does, Jesus is quoted as saying, so go forth and force my return by bringing all sorts of damnation to the earth. Wasn't that, wasn't that what an ultimate

[Top Lobster]

sin that is though? Because it's like we're given this great opportunity to be here where we are now. And it's obviously, it's not ideal, it's not perfect, but it could be a lot better. And the people that are working to force Jesus to come back have made it almost uninhabitable. You know, I mean, they made it miserable on every. Right, like every aspect of life. It doesn't have to be this miserable, right? Life is suffering, life is pain. Fine, get over it. But it, I mean, it's just increasing levels of bad that we have to deal with, which is like, what are you doing guys? Like what a spit in the face of the creator of this entire thing. He created this for you to, for you to experience it in, in this specific way. And it's like, you want it. You're gonna like nerf the game yeah, you're gonna end the game because you want it to be over with.

[David Lee Corbo]

God comes back and you go, look at what good shepherds we've been. Look at, look at, look at the steward. Look at the earth that we've been. We've been poisoned over here. Look at all these trans babies.

[Ben Bennis]

Dude. It's okay. And the trans agenda, primarily pushed by a certain state, you know, a certain country. The almost very many evils that is perpetrated on the west, which was a Christian society, has been. Has been done by a certain group of people over in the Middle East. You know, this is undeniable from, From. From culture being influence through Hollywood, from our banking system. Right. From. From the leader of freaking pharma or I'm sorry, Pfizer. Okay. With all the jabs, like, the list goes on. Somehow, some way, these guys are implicated and now through Epstein, implicated in all the craziest atrocities that we've experienced in our lifetime. I'm almost 40, you know, and I can't think of something that doesn't freaking smell.

[David Lee Corbo]

What's really strange to me is like, you know, I, I get it. Everything is. And I, I understand like in the Bible, it's. All nations are. Are going to turn on Israel at some point.

[Ben Bennis]

Yeah. Hey, Sorry. Sorry. Hey. Why? Because they're a bastion of light and, and, and Jesus and all evil turns against them and, and they're jealous of their righteousness. Is that

[David Lee Corbo]

because all nations turn against Israel because it crushes so hard?

[Ben Bennis]

Yeah. Or is it because they're so freaking evil and wicked? Yeah. Well, why. Why would all nations turn against them?

[David Lee Corbo]

All this stuff that's in the Epstein files and it all is like Epstein is associated with like every single conspiracy of the last, you know, 100 years or some like that is very strange. And then, of course, it all points back to, To Israel and, and, you know, the Jews and their hatred of the goyim and everything. This little nugget drop. So Kai. Kyrina Shuliak is Jeffrey Epstein's girlfriend.

[Top Lobster]

Yes.

[David Lee Corbo]

Her account's been taken down. I don't know if she deleted it or whatever, but for. For about 24 hours, she was tweeting feverishly and she said they sacrificed children to Lucifer. It's an entire cult. Jeffrey got involved in the operation for financial reasons and to obtain compromat. I don't know what compromise is. It's spelled with a K. Compromising information with a. With a.

[Top Lobster]

With a K. Like they use that, like, as a Russian term.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay. But he never participated in Those rituals. Epstein never BF those kids. And then she said, I'm not suicidal, just in case. You'll know the whole truth soon. And then she said, after years of silence, the truth. Jeffrey Epstein was innocent by powerful people who silenced him. I was his last confidant. And I have the evidence they are still hiding. So where. Wherever all this goes, man. Look, at the least. At the least, Ben, it's an entertaining bit of script that's unfolding before. I mean, it's. It's. It really is a great story.

[Top Lobster]

I got a question.

[Ben Bennis]

Amazing.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's amazing.

[Top Lobster]

Do you think. Do you think we should still be talking about the Nephilim?

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, yeah.

[Top Lobster]

This is a. Every time.

[Ben Bennis]

Rename your show to freaking Alien Raptor.

[Top Lobster]

We already have an llc, so it's

[David Lee Corbo]

gonna have an llc.

[Top Lobster]

I mean, simply too much.

[Ben Bennis]

We're busy now.

[Top Lobster]

It's. It's not about. Because I do think the Nephilim existed. I think that all that stuff is true for sure.

[Ben Bennis]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

Just Tucker Carlson's talking about him.

[Top Lobster]

Every time Tucker Carlson talks about it. Every time Candace Owen talks about it,

[David Lee Corbo]

I'm like, wait a second. Am I.

[Top Lobster]

Why you. Why are you doing this? It's because this narrative that is true is. Is being used to push people into a certain direction.

[David Lee Corbo]

And, like, can I just say, top.

[Top Lobster]

Hey, what role have we played in that?

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, not. Not even that. Good for us, though. Good for us, because it's great for branding. If everybody believes in the Nephilim, then everybody comes and watches Death Squad, but I'm not concerned with that. I'm concerned with being a good servant, making disciples of men, speaking the truth. So if we got to change this thing, if we got to pay that money to change that LLC to Sons of Seth Squad, then.

[Top Lobster]

Then that's even more of a lie.

[Ben Bennis]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

So the idea is that the Nephilim is true.

[David Lee Corbo]

That.

[Top Lobster]

That is true. In my. In my opinion. Not in my opinion. From what I.

[David Lee Corbo]

Everything that I've seen, Dude, everything that I've seen, I picked that lens. I finally picked up that lens. I said, Jesus Christ. Oh, the Nephilim is like a handy little thing to add to this whole biblical worldview. Okay, great. And then I started looking through it, and I would have stopped if it didn't keep yielding good fruit. Right.

[Top Lobster]

But here's the thing, though. Why. Like, this is a question. Why have we been given this to look at?

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, like society getting Nephilim and everything.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah. Society's been nephilimized. Everybody pretty much knows what it is. And now under that specific lens, if you pick up that little skull with the crossbones and you put it over and you look through it, things start to look a little clearer. But as they look clearer, we get ever closer to what's coming. So I'm like, it's. It's a truth that's being told to us to then get us to this huge, unique lie. And I'm like, damn. But like, at this point, it's like, all right, so if I step away, Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson will continue to talk about this. La Marzulli and the rest of these guys will still continue. I'm not. I'm not necessarily pushing. I'm not pushing this from a dispensationalist direction, but it's just like, what have we contributed to by looking at this thing and talking about it?

[Ben Bennis]

No, what we are doing, we're the gateway drug. All right? We are the weed that is leading people.

[David Lee Corbo]

We are the weed now.

[Ben Bennis]

We. I am the weed now. Hey. We. We are the gateway drug leading people into deeper truths. Kind of. Dave was kind of alluding to this. You know, we believe nothing I've said. Whether you're dispensational or not, whether you think there's a preacher bapture or not, whether you think the Antichrist is Jewish or not, it doesn't matter. Like, nephilim are a historic fact. Fact, Right. What it did for me once I accepted, like, the nephilim is a historic fact and they are fallen angels, and they did manipulate genetics and, you know, the whole story. Once I bought into that courtesy of Heiser, the Bible made more sense to me. Yes. And. And I had more faith in Christ and it made everything way more real. And it made me want to go, Max, for Christ. It was only after I accepted the reality of Christ. Christ, Max. Christmaxing. Okay? So. So to me, I think it's a great thing that people are accepting the supernatural reality, which includes this spiritual freaking battle that plays itself out some ways somehow in. In our dimension.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Ben Bennis]

And for some reason, Satan gives a shit about hooking up with women and producing nephilim and trying to overthrow Adam's dominion of the earth and take over this stupid rock in space. None of that matter. Like, why does that make sense? Why does that any of that make sense in the grand scheme of this? If this is just a spiritual battle in the heavenlies, why does it make sense? I don't know. But here we are, and we are freaking in, in the thick of it. You know what I'm Saying and what we do by talking about nephilim and aliens. Because that is the same lie. That is the same deception. That is the same supernatural shenanigans rebranded, right?

[David Lee Corbo]

Rebranding. Exactly.

[Ben Bennis]

That's all it freaking is. That's all it freaking is. It's a rebranding. So by us connecting these dots for people, I hope to do what Heiser did for me. I hope for somebody's light bulb to go, oh shit, that's true. I could totally see that happening. Everything I just painted about pre trip alien rapture and stuff. That's all my speculation. That's just me thinking out logically where these things could lead. Right? I could be totally wrong, actually. I hope I am wrong. I hope there's a pre trib rapture. I'm not suicidal either, you know, but, but, but I think we are doing a service. Just be a good service. Just because there are people out there who don't realize that they might be perpetrating in the deception. Like perpetrating the deception themselves. I don't know, bro. God's still sovereign. God's still sovereign. The Catholic Church was a massive dumpster fire piece of shit for what, a thousand years. And it's still how God preserved Christianity. You see what I'm saying? And we are where we are. Even though the Catholic Church was a freaking dumpster fire, we are where we are today. God used that in his sovereignty, right? In the same way, just because dispensationalism is the flavor of the day for the past 170 years, doesn't mean that God's not sovereign and that that wasn't accounted for in his plan. I actually think, which is the most ironic thing ever, that it is dispensationalism that fulfills the prophecies that they put forth. You know what I'm saying? Which makes the end times play out the way that we grew up thinking. They'll play out from Left behind to Paradise Lost to all of these other dispensational, propagandized forms of entertainment.

[Top Lobster]

What are you talking about? Time travel.

[David Lee Corbo]

Time travel.

[Ben Bennis]

I'm not talking about time travel. I'm talking about the fact that God is sovereign and he accounted. And he account. Oh, shoot. And he accounted for dispensationalism in his end times prophecy. I'll give you an example. I don't know if I, if I said this last time, okay, this, the, the best way for us to visualize it is via all the time travel movies, right? That we're so accustomed to where People go into the past to try to fix something in their present, right? Something's wrong in their presence, so they go into the past to fix it. But whatever changes they make in the past are accounted for in their present, and their present plays out the way it did because they were all. They went in the past and did what they did. And that's why Harry Potter. Okay, all of that. All of that. All of it, back to the future, everything, right? So I'll give you an example. In Revelation, it talks about John. So John's got a vision, right? He's on freaking Patmos, tripping like, right? And he gets this vision of a beast with the body of a lion, the feet of a bear, the face of a leopard, the wings of an eagle, right? And this beast does things. Okay, now, top, maybe you could pull this up. The statue outside of the UN Dedicated or donated by a Mexican artist.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's crazy. It's that little statue that your son made.

[Ben Bennis]

Oh, that's not.

[Top Lobster]

What is it called?

[Ben Bennis]

That's not. Outside the UN the statue. The statue outside the UN Building donated by Mexican artist. Okay, yeah.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's the same thing.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah. This is called a griffin.

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, no, that's not a griffin exactly. It's something a little bit different. Specifically, a jaguar. Griffin is like a head of an eagle, body of a lion, wings. That is the thing your son. It's. It's now in the front of the U.N. so, yeah, my son made me.

[Top Lobster]

I had it here. It's a little clay doll of. Yeah, exactly.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's a spiritual entity.

[Top Lobster]

These look like the things from Coco.

[Ben Bennis]

Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. Or is that just more normalizing? And what's it called? Pre. Come on. Conditioning. Right, right, right. Okay. Get that demon off. Hey. So John is on Patmos and describes in his vision that. That. Right. Like, it's undeniable. It's the face of a leopard, the feet of a bear, the wings of an eagle, blah, blah, blah.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, right.

[David Lee Corbo]

What is. What is the conventional explanation for building that thing outside of the U.N. there is no.

[Ben Bennis]

They don't need to explain these things. The same reason there's a statue of the goddess Sh. Shiva, or the God Shiva, the lord of destruction, outside of cern. They don't need to explain these things. It's art. Right? So John sees that. That beast in his vision, and that beast, which is representative, in my opinion, of the UN Does a certain thing. Right. If you're. If you're accustomed to that. Let's say we live 2,000 years ago. What Represents a nation. It's their statues, it's their iconography. It's there, right? It's not the building. What's John gonna say about a freaking 80 story building made of glass? And I saw a rock that was shiny because how do you describe a skyscraper 2,000 years ago? No, you described their iconography. You described their symbolism. He saw that statue outside the freaking UN and so he said, I saw this and this is what that thing did, right? Then, then the freaking Mexican artist or Spanish artist, I don't know what he is. He certainly legal. Hey, hey. He's call ice. Hey. He sees, he reads that description and the demons in him are like, make it so.

[David Lee Corbo]

He's like, ah, I like that thinking.

[Ben Bennis]

There you go.

[Top Lobster]

They're like this looks like this

[Ben Bennis]

interesting CBN News. Cbn.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's hilarious. I do like that line of thinking.

[Ben Bennis]

So he reads that demons tell him build it, you know, and he's like, see seniors? So he freaking builds this thing. He doesn't even charge for it. He donates it. They put it out in front of the UN because their demons tell them put this out in front of in your front yard.

[David Lee Corbo]

They're not like crazy.

[Ben Bennis]

What the hell is that? Why would we put that? No, they put it out there, right? And that's what John sees. So which came first? The prophecy in the past or the statue in the future? You see what I'm saying? Because without the prophecies, because the, without the prophecy, the Mexican artist doesn't read this description and doesn't build the statue has no reference. But without the statue, John doesn't see it in the past and doesn't talk about it. You see what I'm saying? Whoa. So which came first? Dispensationalism or the end times prophecies as we know them?

[David Lee Corbo]

Right?

[Ben Bennis]

I don't know. I think it's accounted for in God's sovereign plan. You know what I'm saying?

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, it is if, if you're looking at time like a flat disc and you see it all and because you're outside of it.

[Ben Bennis]

Correct? Yeah, correct.

[Top Lobster]

We can look at these things and we can, we can speculate on if they're manufactured or not. But I think in the end it doesn't quite matter. Like these things are gonna, they're going to happen.

[Ben Bennis]

They're gonna happen. Hey, especially when, especially when the dispensationals are making them happen. Okay? They're going to happen.

[David Lee Corbo]

There's no way around it.

[Ben Bennis]

But, but let me, let me ask this, bro, because as we as we close this up as Christians, right? We should ask ourselves, oh, shoot, okay, maybe these guys are out of their freaking minds. Maybe they're onto something. Maybe they smoked a little and did some other drugs while they were younger and whatever. Okay? But hey, when do we. When do we stop supporting Israel as Christians? Okay? Is it when Epstein files are released and we find out that they're behind all of that Satanic activity that we're all, like, throwing up over? Right.

[David Lee Corbo]

So you mean last weekend?

[Ben Bennis]

Yeah. So should we stop last weekend? Is it when they bomb other territories, killing 80% women and children and killing a bunch of Christians too, who live in Gaza? Should we stop supporting them then? Is it when they build their Third Temple? Right? Is it when the Antichrist comes out of the third Temple indwelt by Satan? At what point do we sit back as Christians and be like, I feel like if I bless Israel at this point, I'm going to be cursed because they're doing Satan, so I. I shouldn't support Satan's. You see what I'm saying?

[Top Lobster]

If I bless Israel, is that a curse?

[David Lee Corbo]

Well, I mean, it depends on. On what it is. If it's a proclamation that you. Which I think is always an appropriate thing, you pray that Israel will come to the understanding that Jesus Christ is their Lord and Savior. They miss the bus the first time around, but luckily our God is one of forgiveness, repent, follow Christ. Like, yeah, that's. That's the ultimate spiritual blessing, right? That's the ultimate blessing. And. And it is genuinely the thing that if it happened, if it came to pass, everything would be rectified.

[Ben Bennis]

Dude, totally. But is that not what we should be doing for every nation under the sun? Amen. You. You know what I'm saying? Pull up one. Let me read you one more verse. This is Isaiah 19:24. Oh, man, this is such a trip. And then we could. I'm sure you guys have to go Isaiah 19:20, because I've gotten very comfortable. Hey, it's pretty. It's deep, right? It's. I mean, it's.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's great, though. And it's all tracking.

[Ben Bennis]

Okay, so check this out. Isaiah 19:24. In that day, Israel will be. You got it?

[Top Lobster]

I put 29, 24.

[David Lee Corbo]

1947.

[Top Lobster]

What? Here we go.

[Ben Bennis]

Okay. There you go. In that day, Israel will be the third, along with Egypt and Assyria. A blessing on the earth. The Lord Almighty will bless them, saying, blessed be Egypt, my people, Assyria, my handiwork, and Israel my inheritance. Why are we not blessing and supporting all Things Assyria and all things Egypt, along with the other one third of God's people. Israel.

[David Lee Corbo]

Egypt is a few shades too brown for, for the modern church, I would say in America for sure.

[Ben Bennis]

Because they didn't immigrate from Europe. Right. So the, the point stands though. Israel is one third of God's people. It's not just Israel. We. It's plain. Right here you take the Bible literally, right? Dispies. So one third is Israel, the other 2/3 are Egypt and Assyria. When is the last time you blessed Israel, Egypt or Assyria? When's the last time you prayed for their people? When's the last Syria. Exactly. Who is Assyria? Because guess what? Because Christians didn't support them. And the country of Assyria I don't think even exists anymore.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's the place where we took Gaddafi and they put a knife in his butt and then it turned into an open air slave trade.

[Ben Bennis]

Is it? Well, no, no Syria.

[David Lee Corbo]

Oh, okay, so we didn't put a knife in that guy's butt.

[Ben Bennis]

No. Well, not yet. PBD's Assyrian.

[Top Lobster]

Give it a minute. Yeah, northern part of Mesopotamia. So yeah, modern day Syria would be modern day Iraq. Parts of Iran.

[Ben Bennis]

Turke.

[Top Lobster]

Oh, reserved.

[Ben Bennis]

We bless them by turning their sands glass with our Right.

[Top Lobster]

But these are all God's people.

[David Lee Corbo]

We gave them permanent military bases.

[Top Lobster]

And so obviously the reason we're not blessing them is because Israel wants to expand their governmental territory into those lands, into most of that land or parts of it. So therefore they can't be, they can't be recognized as part of whatever we are.

[Ben Bennis]

Correct. And so who's. Whose ends are we actually fulfilling? Are we.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay, goes into the whole we are the attack dogs of, of Israel. That's one of the things that came out of the correct Epstein files was that Mossad had its hands that Israel was responsible for 9, 11. And it's just like, man.

[Ben Bennis]

Oh, and, and the financial crisis of 2008. Epstein was also partially responsible for that. Have you guys seen any of those documents? What do you.

[David Lee Corbo]

Okay, let me, let me ask you this. I know we're coming short on time here, but do you, do you believe that? Because I'm having trouble believing.

[Top Lobster]

Responsible for everything.

[Ben Bennis]

Right.

[David Lee Corbo]

He's had his hands. And I mean just knowing like how hard it is to, you know, like your husband and a, and a father and you go to work and you know, outside of even like what we do here, some people are working 60, 70 hour work weeks and then you have all the other to do. This guy's done all, all of it.

[Ben Bennis]

I do believe it. And here, here's why I do believe it. Not everything in there is true. Some of that stuff in there is lies. To throw things, to throw people off of sense or to fan fantastic size, I don't know if that's a word. But to make things fantastical so people are like, there's no way that's true. The thing about eating like feces out of intestines, I don't know if that's true. I doubt it.

[David Lee Corbo]

That would actually.

[Ben Bennis]

But maybe because these guys are Satanists, right?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Ben Bennis]

But there is stuff in there that is used to sensation, say sensationalize. And what did Nancy Pelosi call it? She called it the rap where you take something, you put it in, you put false information into whatever is being said so that people only focus on the false information and then throw all of it away. Nancy Pelosi called it a rap. Okay, so Epstein started when he was 26. All right? That's when. Oh my God. If you guys haven't seen Daryl Cooper going over Epstein's history, I forget what the name of the podcast is. It's on Spotify. Darryl Cooper Epstein, Martyr made. But he. It's like a four part series on Epstein. It's insane. Bill Barr, Trump's Attorney General, back in 2016, his first administration, Bill Barr's dad hired Jeffrey Epstein in his first job ever at the Dalton School, like a very high end, prestigious school as a math teacher. And that's where he got his start. What a coincidence that Bill Barr is also the Attorney General that was in charge of the Epstein case when he got put in prison and killed. Right. What a weird. What a weird bookend that the bars are involved in the beginning of his career and the supposed end of his career. Okay, coincidence, but anyway, so he started at 26 and he died at what, 72, 73. Almost 50 years of shenanigans. Okay, right? If you are identified as like an operative, hey, we're going to train this guy. We're gonna bring him up and we're gonna use him for our ends, our purposes. We're gonna give him unlimited money. Billions upon billions upon billions. He has no wife. He has no kids. I worry about those things when I wake up. He does not. He worries about who can I compromise today? That's his sole freaking purpose in life. Right? And along the way, he gets to live the life of a freaking king and rape everything and anybody in sight. Right? So I didn't mean to laugh at that. So he Had. So he has 50 years every single day. What's 50 times 365? I don't know. A lot, right?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Ben Bennis]

150 years plus or 150,000 days plus, I think. How many meetings do you think you could get in 50 years? How many. How many elites that are actually in positions of authority and power that can actually make a difference for Israel when the time comes? How many of those do you even think exist? 500,000, 10,000?

[Top Lobster]

We're underestimating, like, his ability to delegate. This is something that Donald Trump does great. But if I was him, if I was Epstein, I would create, like, numerous. Over 50 years, you create numerous networks that would do.

[Ben Bennis]

For sure.

[Top Lobster]

They would be micro networks and they'd be doing, like, menial tasks of what I would want to be done with, like, less power. But you can extend your reach, really. Like, it can be into every single thing. As we read the files.

[David Lee Corbo]

Right.

[Top Lobster]

It's just like what he had his hands on, he actually was manipulating. Maybe he just signed off on some shit, you know?

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. You had a place in people here and there.

[Ben Bennis]

If you watch the latest Tucker Carl episode with Ian Carroll, they go into how he's partially responsible for the 2008 financial crisis. And there's receipts. You know, it's. It's his. It's the bonds or whatever they were. I'm not financially savvy or I don't have that terminology, but he was buying something through the bank Bear Stearns, where he initially started his career after the Dalton School, without any formal education or experience at all. He was doing something through Bear Stearns that when he called all his options, started or pulled the thread for the 2008 collapse and the first bank to go under, which started everything else. Bear Stearns, the one.

[David Lee Corbo]

So he basically, what he did, signaled everybody else to start pulling, and everything just started imploding.

[Top Lobster]

He created the avalanche already.

[Ben Bennis]

He's already in bed, pun intended, with these elites. So if 10 of them get together in a room after they just did something nefarious to some children and are like, dude, you realize if we just all did this thing with these banks, you realize we can make billions of dollars by shorting the markets and by the collapse and then. And then JP Morgan, you could just scoop up all these banks for pennies on the dollar after they collapse.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, let the goyim deal with the. With the real world.

[David Lee Corbo]

You know, my thing is just like. It just seems like such an unlikelihood that everything that we've been pulling on every thread that we've been pulling on for the last 20 years is part of Jeffrey Epstein's sweater. It doesn't feel. It feels so unlikely. That's not typically how it doesn't feel

[Top Lobster]

good like that it's all one thing. And we go, oh, eureka. Look at us. Look how smart we were. We were all pointing at the right thing. It makes me look like. Like I'm smart.

[David Lee Corbo]

Feel like I've been picking up breadcrumbs that somebody has been leaving for me. And they want me to come to the conclusion that for sure is this mastermind behind all things good.

[Ben Bennis]

Okay, okay, okay. That's true. It does make you feel that way. But it doesn't mean that it's wrong. And that's why you have to ask, who unleashed and who was he working for? For. Right. And when. When I'll. I'll just. I'll read it to you. Revelation. Not revelation. John 8. 30. I'm sorry. John 8. 39. They answered him, abraham is our father. Jesus said to them, if you were Abraham's children, you would be doing the works of Abraham. But now you seek to kill me, a man who has told you the truth and heard from God. This is not what Abraham did. You are doing the works your father did. They said to him, we are not born of sexual immorality. We have one father, even God. Jesus said to them, if God were your father, you would love me. I came from God, and I am here. I came not on my own accord, but he sent me. Why do you not understand what I say? It is because you cannot bear to hear my words. You are of your father, the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning. And he does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. So when a state unleashes a Satanist perpetrator like Epstein upon the world for their own benefit. Right. It is because that state is acting satanically. We have to. We have to end it there. As Christians, when a state is satanic, we cannot support them. We cannot support them. You know? And what we do, us three here is open people's eyes up, help them see the light and point them to Jesus Christ. As opposed to the satanic state that is doing this evil shit. Instead of getting caught up. This is. I struggle with this, too. Instead of getting caught up with trying to unravel the Epstein files and aliens. And like all of that is a means. Those are all talking points to direct back to Christ.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah.

[Ben Bennis]

For us and it's hard not to get swept up in the evil because it's so evil. And all I want to do is like go postal, you know what I'm saying? But can't do that. We gotta let Christ be the one who exhausts vengeance on these. You know, all we need to do is.

[Top Lobster]

Well said.

[Ben Bennis]

Try to get as many people to Christ as freaking possible. That's why we have to hit the drum every time, even if no matter what topic we're talking about. Back to Christ, back to Christ, back. Yeah. Every freaking time.

[Top Lobster]

One last thing came across my head because you're talking about the state of Israel. All this stuff is just like the Dead Sea scrolls discovered in 1947.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. That makes me feel not so great about the Nephilim in the Book of Enoch and, but the Nephilim, it's, it's true.

[Top Lobster]

And people did know about this before.

[Ben Bennis]

It is true.

[Top Lobster]

But since 1947, there's been this concerted effort and push in all directions, from MK Ultra to the state of Israel to the Truman Doctrine to, you name it, they're pushing it all out. And it has to start at this point to culminate to right now with what we're doing. But the Nephilim angle looks like from 1947 appears to me there has to be the spiritual reawakening in America and that this is kind of what did it. We play our, we play our part in it, in this. But, but you got to be awake spiritually. You can't be spiritually dead, like. Right. Can't be. It's not going to be MTV for sure. It's not going to be the 90s and that that time period wasn't better than now. Everybody was just more blinded to the, to the evil around you. That stuff existed for many years.

[David Lee Corbo]

That's what I'm saying. Yeah. All of this is like we're just waking up to the condition that the world has been in. I think ancient people were keenly aware of the condition of the world. We were stripped of our spiritual understanding, entered a materialistic paradigm, and then were put under the illusion that we were sophisticated, sufficiently sophisticated, where systems like this didn't exist anymore. I mean, you saw that happen when people started realizing that, you know, Libya turned into this open air slave trade and there's still slavery in the world. I thought we got rid of slave. It's like we're, we are in so many different ways. The world never changed. And right now we're having the curtain pulled back on all these Things that we allowed ourselves to believe because it's awfully comfy, comfy here in the West.

[Top Lobster]

But it's, it's also like the Internet. Like the elites unleash, unleash this thing. The Dead Sea Scrolls being one of them, and it's their weapon. But like the Internet, they. They unleash the Internet so that way they can have this kind of octopus of global control, this net that goes around that will surveil and do a number of other things. But it's a double. It's a double edged sword because it also gives the people that it's being utilized on the ability to take it and subvert it from its original intent. And I think that's what, that's what constantly happens. So I don't know. Were we wrong for talking about the Nephilim? No, because it's true.

[David Lee Corbo]

But they're real.

[Top Lobster]

They're real, but we have to be very careful where we point that thing inside of a coffee shop.

[Ben Bennis]

And you lost your license.

[David Lee Corbo]

It's Florida, baby.

[Ben Bennis]

Oh, damn. We did it, boys.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah. Yeah. Dude, this is a great conversation. I'm glad we did this. You did a much better job on our show than we did on your show. Before we get out of here, let's. Let's remind everybody, Ben, where they can, where they can support you and where they can go and see the supposed co host that you have, that there might not be AI, may not be a real dude at all. Where can people find your brother?

[Ben Bennis]

Bennis the Menace pod on all platforms. That's it.

[Top Lobster]

I got you. Here, let me just pull it up.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, dude, we're gonna pull up some things. You said it too quick.

[Top Lobster]

Say big Instagram following, but say it slowly.

[Ben Bennis]

Bennis the Menace pod on all platforms.

[Top Lobster]

That's it right there. Guys, go follow Ben and his supposed friend Dennis, who probably doesn't exist, probably isn't real. Give him a follow and let them know that we sent you.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, also when, when, you know, when you figure out. No, don't do that. Once you figure out who to get as a co host and then lie to us and tell us that this is a man named Dennis, reach out so that you can come back on because you know you're doing a great job solo. I'm sure you, you crush. When you have the homie with you. We'd love to have you back on and, and get to meet Dennis.

[Ben Bennis]

Yeah, he's definitely my, like, emotional support human. Because I'll, I'll go for artist if I'm by myself and Dennis will, like, reel me in, you know, But. But hey, I am. There's no way I could do a show by myself in a camera. Just, you know, I need people to talk to. So that's why I have a co host. Like, it's cool. I could do a show like this, an interview, solo, because I got you two to talk to and bounce straight off of, you know, but if I'm just talking into a camera, I'm probably just gonna say. And freeze a bunch, you know.

[Top Lobster]

Somebody clip that, please.

[David Lee Corbo]

Yeah, man. Like I said, reach out to us and let us know. We'd love to have you back on and. And, And. And get to actually meet this fictional character. Thank you, brother. This is a blast.

[Top Lobster]

Don't forget to obey Submit and comply we'll see. Again the end is written in the book in the pages they forget.

[David Lee Corbo]

When the last trumpet sound in the heaven.