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NDS on Let's Get Freaky w/ Tommy Collum
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
Okay, guys, welcome back to the let's Get Freaky podcast. I am super excited. We have got two awesome guests on the show today. These guys are absolutely fantastic. I've been honored to be on their show before. It's absolutely amazing. We've got David, AKA the Raven, and Top Lobster from the Nephilim Death Squad. Guys, welcome. Thank you so much for being here, man.
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David aka The Raven
Thank you. Thank you for having us. It's. It's early here in America. It's not too early. It's. It's 10:00am I know. You said it's like it's 10:00am, I know it's 10:A. Well, that's the life of a podcaster,
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Top Lobster
working a coffee shop, too. No excuses.
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David aka The Raven
No excuses. Thank you for having us, dude. It's a pleasure to be here. Yeah, we've had you on. On our show a couple times. Great episodes, great conversations. So honored to be on your show. Thanks for having us, brother.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
It's an honor to have you guys. You guys are awesome. Like the people that are listening right now, you've got an amazing studio. You've got a calf there as well, which is incredible. You know, podcast, a care for studio and you. You guys are just growing this, this empire and it's amazing to see as a fan, I'm loving it.
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David aka The Raven
I mean, yeah, I. We're growing something.
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Top Lobster
Yeah. I don't know what we're doing, to be honest, we're. We're growing in all directions. Kind of like weeds.
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David aka The Raven
If you ask. Like the local town that we're in, they're growing a tumor. We're. We're like. We're a cancer. We're a plague on this place.
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Top Lobster
But you think they're fans of what we're doing here?
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David aka The Raven
Which is fine and understandable.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, understandable. We're doing our thing.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
One that doesn't know. Where are you guys based?
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David aka The Raven
So. So we're in Florida, in America, if you guys couldn't tell by the accents. I know you said the vast majority of your audience is. Is American. It's interesting how that plays out. And we are. We're actually. Right now, for anybody who's a listener in Florida, we have our studios in the Standard Coffee Shop in Lady Lake, Florida. So you guys are more than welcome to.
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Top Lobster
I mean, Matt, why did you want to say hi?
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David aka The Raven
You want to say hi, Matt? Yeah, yeah.
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Top Lobster
Hurry up and come over here.
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David aka The Raven
Come. Come on now. Just quick, quick, quick.
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Top Lobster
We don't have much time.
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David aka The Raven
Come, come say hi.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
And I called it as well. It's a coffee shop.
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David aka The Raven
Yeah, look at the. Who's your football team in England, bro?
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
Nice to meet you, man. A team. A team called Leighton Orient. You might.
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David aka The Raven
And Orient. Oh, you don't. Who but about Premier League, so.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
Premier League, so. Well, my local team is Bournemouth, so AFC Bournemouth would be my afc.
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David aka The Raven
Nice.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
You know, I knew.
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David aka The Raven
I like this guy.
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Top Lobster
I'm sorry, this is the point in the show we say, matt, you gotta leave.
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David aka The Raven
Yeah, Matt, get out of here. Cut it out, man. Yeah, he likes. Yeah, he said, what's your team?
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Top Lobster
He's gonna make some shit up right now.
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David aka The Raven
No, no, the problem is I got. I got TV a couple years ago for the NFL and I didn't realize I had. They had Premier League on regular TV in America now, like on usa, like, on regular channels. So I flicked it on and, bro, it was just like a counter attack. One touch from like, Alexander Arnold to Van Dyke to Henderson to Salah to Mane, and just like an incredible goal. And I never watched the NFL the rest of the season, so right then I fell in love with Liverpool. But when they got rid of Mane, they're just not that fun. And then Diego Jota's gone.
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Top Lobster
I'll be honest, he could be making stuff up.
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David aka The Raven
No, no, he knows. He knows, bro.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
No, it's facts.
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David aka The Raven
This is. Get out of here. Matt. Anyway, that's Matt. He's. He's all right. But yeah, if you guys are out in Florida, that. That's where we're at. Of standard coffee shop slash NDS Studios. And we always encourage people. Yeah, stop by, come say hi, and come hang out. We're here typically, like five days a week. You'll walk in and there's a high likelihood you'll find us here.
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Top Lobster
Yes. And if you do make it here, I do have, like, little trinkets and stuff that I give people. This is a psychotic. This isn't how a show usually goes.
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David aka The Raven
But just making this.
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Top Lobster
He's all caked up. I mean, you can see.
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David aka The Raven
Don't show his butt. Unbelievable. This is a family show. But, yeah, you could find Nephilim Death Squad anywhere you find your podcast. You know, except for Rumble, We've. We've abandoned Rumble because we don't like them anymore. But elsewhere, you'll be able to find us, you know, anywhere you listen to podcasts.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
Well, your show is awesome, guys. I have to say, it was. It was very surreal just hearing you say late and orient there. You know, we're a very small site. We don't get talked about a lot on big podcasts.
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David aka The Raven
That's very funny. The things that are meaningful to Tommy.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
Yeah. And we was talking about shoes before we started.
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Top Lobster
Yeah.
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David aka The Raven
Yeah.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
So. So I'd like to go to the start of both of your journeys where. What got you into these topics? Could you get into some pretty deep topics? Hidden history, spiritual battle, spiritual warfare. Where. Where does this. Where did. Where did the journey start?
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Top Lobster
I mean, rock, paper, scissors.
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David aka The Raven
All right.
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Top Lobster
Rock, paper, scissors. No, see, this is a whole thing.
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David aka The Raven
What are you doing? Dude, you gotta go. You go.
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Top Lobster
You play. Rock, paper, scissors says shoot.
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David aka The Raven
No, that's. Nobody does that. Please. We're not doing this again.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
Shoot. On the.
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David aka The Raven
No, no, no, no. It's rock, paper, scissors. Shoot. That's when you. All right. Rock, paper, scissors. Shoot. All right, you go. All right, fine, I'll go. He won. So for me, I had a really strange. Very similar to your story, Tommy, that you were. We were discussing on. On our recent episode on nds. I had, you know, a strange upbringing. I saw a lot of supernatural things. Shadow people, you know, sleep paralysis, you name it. That. That kind of run of the mill experience. And it turns out that it was probably because of what the Bible calls generational iniquity. My grandmother, she was clairvoyant, New age practitioner kind of a character, and I think that opened up a lot of spiritual doorways. So the future generations. I'm not the only one in my Family line who's got a lot of strange stuff going on. So those experiences in childhood made me fascinated with the supernatural and the unexplainable. And I wouldn't accept people's dismissal of the phenomenon. They would say, oh, it's just a dream. Oh, it's just this and that, or you didn't really see what you thought you saw. And that bled into conspiracy theory. And I was also unwilling to accept the dismissal of, you know, conspiracies. If you told me they weren't spraying the skies, it was very obvious to me. If you told me there wasn't symbolism in pop culture, in Hollywood, in the music industry, I would say, clearly there is. And so I wouldn't take no for an answer. From a young age, I was super obsessed with it. And it took a long time, but, you know, experience after experience and what has now amounted to 20 years of conspiracy sleuthing, at around year 16, 17, I pivoted, I had an experience, and maybe we'll get into it today, that was inherently demonic, and I wasn't raised religious. But from that moment forward, I pivoted, I oriented towards Christ, and one thing led to another, and I ended up linking up with this guy. We started doing this show, and I'm very much in a position now where I feel like, you know, if it's a refining fire, if it's the trials and tribulations that God puts you through to prepare you for a thing, all of those things, the supernatural experiences, the conspiracy sleuthing, all led, in my opinion, to this, this place here where we're having conversations with guys like, you know, and, you know, so it's been a weird, long journey. But, you know, we had that discussion with you on that recent episode, and I asked you a similar question. Like what? Why do you think these things happen to you? And, you know, so it's a generational thing, maybe. I tend to think that it is. And it's a domino effect. A very strange odyssey that leads to this point. But, yeah, that's how I got here.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
Interesting, man. Sometimes when we have these experiences when we're younger and we, like, accept those experiences, it's, it's, it's undeniable. This stuff is real. Yeah, we know it's real. We have these experiences. Can I ask what took place when you were 16, 17. Did you say when you.
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David aka The Raven
Well, no, I, I, I'm sorry. What I meant was, like, 16, 17 years into my conspiracy journey. So by this, by the time I had an experience that, that oriented me towards Christ, I was already a married man with a, with a, with a child. But I'll give you the, the sort of, the abridged version of it. What ends up happening is I think I was feeding something. I was in a sort of depressive state and I was anxious and I was angry, I was resentful and I was distant, you know, in my marriage and I was distant as a father. And it was because I was dealing with these feelings of being a failure. Now I think that these things that, you know. You agree, Tommy? They're, they're very real once you have an experience. You know, that's why it's very hard when people try to tell you it's not real. It's like, dude, you. Until you experience it. I simply can't have this, this conversation with you if you're going to try to tell me that, you know, what I saw or what I felt or what I experienced was not real. And so based off of that, I already believe these things were real. Now I understand that you feed them. They have an energetic parasitic relationship with an individual and they feed off of low vibrational energy. Some of the big baddies, they will, they'll accept worship. Worship is a great energetic exchange for them, but on the lower levels, I think. And they'll probably accept worship if you're dumb enough to give it to them. But mostly they feed off of extreme emotion and they'll take fear, you know, if they can get that, and they'll take sadness and things like that. So I'm feeding something and it turns into this, this saga, this four night saga where one night I come home and you know, I'm in this slump and I go to sleep and my. I'm suddenly woken up by, by the sound of somebody knocking. And it's real late at night and I pop out of bed and I go. And I look out the window and nobody's there at the door. I can see I'm on the second story. We're at the in laws house. This is like kind of the feelings of failure. Like we're living with the in laws after getting our ass kick another state. We couldn't cut it out there so we had to crash at their place. And nobody's at the door. So I go, I must have just been hearing things. And I go back to sleep and as soon as I drift off, boom, boom, boom, boom. It happens again. So I spring up and I get up, I go to the thing, nobody's at the door, I can see again. And I notice nobody's hearing this. Like, my wife's not woken up. My son who's sleeping on an air mattress at the foot of the bed, he's not woken up. The in laws aren't turning on the lights and going to investigate. So I'm going like, this has to be. I must be hearing things. I don't know what to make of this. Sounds so real though. And I get back in bed, I'm a little spooked out and I managed to drift off and it happens again, dude. And so I don't get much sleep that night. I'm just like scrolling on my phone. Maybe I get a couple of hours and I wake up the next day for work. And that night the same situation kind of takes place where I'm drifting off to sleep and I feel something pull my arm and I'm kind of of the mind that I'm just spasming. So I, you know, I pull my arm back and I go back to sleep. Soon as I drift off, it happens again. And this time I put my arms under the blanket because I feel like, you know, sometimes you drift off, you start to spasm, you start to like jerk a little bit. And maybe the weight of the blanket will at least keep me from. Because I'm. My arm's going all the way up in the air. And that's part of what's waking me up is it's like fully extended. And so I'm like, all right, the weight of the blanket will cut that out. Next thing I know, I drift off, something grabs my ankle and pulls my leg and I'm upset, man. Like, I don't know what to do. I. I can't get sleep. I'm not telling my wife this, I'm not telling my son this. Certainly, you know, I'm not gonna share this with the in laws, but this is two strange nights in a row and I'm just getting a little bit stressed out and I'm definitely not getting a lot of sleep. So that night I was so creeped out because it really felt like something grabbed my leg that I didn't go to sleep practically till the sun came up. And then you wake up early and you go to work and, you know, so I'm thinking about this throughout the day. I don't know what to make of it. And I kind of share it a little bit with some of the co workers and you know, what they thought of it. It was just like a light conversation. But that night I go back, go through the routine, go to sleep and this time I have this nightmare and in this nightmare I can see this guy. He's, he's, you know, humanoid looking and his skin looks like black and gray cheetah print, but it's not, it's not furry at all. You know, it's just regular skin. But that's. The pattern on his skin is like black and gray blotches and he's very muscular.
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David aka The Raven
And he's full of rage. His fists are balled up and clenched and his chest is like, you know, rising and collapsing. He's. Because he's breathing so hard, like with all this anger. And I'm just viewing him, you know, it's. It's like a void, a black void. And I can just see this. I'm not, I'm not aware of my body or anything like that. And there's a black mist swirling around his legs and his lower canid teeth are so big that they're overlapping his upper lip. And the, and the most striking detail was his eyes. His eyes were red, but they were like lights. They were like so red, you know, that it was like brake lights or like, you know, just that kind of self illuminating red eyes. And he just looks like rage incarnate, you know, and, and I'm looking at it and that's it. I could just remember, I don't know how long I was there, how long I'm staring at this thing, but I'm just taking it all in. And I wake up in the morning and I'm like, shit, man, I haven't told anybody about this. You know, I haven't shared it with my wife. And I'm just like, this is just getting worse and worse. And all of a sudden my wife wakes up and she goes, man, I had a nightmare last night. And I go, okay, you know, I'm just, I'm playing it cool. I'm like, yeah, go ahead, tell me more. And she goes, well, I woke up in bed and I was in the room, but I couldn't move. And I said, you know, immediately my mind goes to sleep. Paralysis. But she doesn't. She's never had that. You know what I mean? So she didn't know how to explain it exactly. She's just like, yeah, it just felt like my whole body was stuck, but I could move my eyes. And she goes. She looked over to me because she got this sense that I was, like, in danger. And on my chest, choking me into the bed is this black monster with big teeth and red eyes. And it's. It's choking me into the bed. And I go, oh. Oh, that's crazy.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
Like.
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David aka The Raven
Like, I don't. I don't know. Anyway, yeah, dude, I don't know what to say. I don't want to say anything. I don't. I want it to go away. I have no recourse. And in my mind, it's so terrifying. This is such a reality that, like, the only thing I can think of to defend myself is, like, if you don't talk about it, maybe it'll just go away. Like, maybe it'll stop. It felt like if I talked about it, I was going to feed into it and it was going to get worse. So I still don't tell her about it, dude. She just tells me this story. I go, that's crazy. And then I go to work, you know, and I live the same life on repeat. And I come home that night, I go to sleep, dude, and this night feels okay. Nothing happens that's, you know, remarkable until the morning. And in the morning, my wife wakes me up and she's taking a video, and she wants to show me this video. Apparently, when I was sleeping, I was so in distress that you could see where you would place your fingers on someone's neck to check their pulse. That, you know, part of my neck is throbbing. It's pumping like this blood is pumping. Like I'm, like, in this, you know, struggle session of a dream. So she takes a video, which, by the way, I found the video recently, and I remember it being like 10 seconds. She recorded me for a minute. So she just let me hang out in this distressed mode for, like, a minute. So she wakes me up, she shows me this. I'm watching this. I'm going, damn, dude. Still haven't shared with her what's going on. Still have all this information in my head. Of course, this plugs right into it, and it's just making it so much worse. And as I'm watching the video, my son, who's at the foot of the bed on a twin size air mattress starts screaming. But he's still asleep. And he is screaming like, you know, if you got kids, anybody who's listening out there, there's different screams and there's certain screams that when they happen, you burst up out of whatever you're doing because something is definitely wrong. So we get up and this kid is screaming, and all of a sudden he sits up and he's still asleep and he's still screaming. And we grab him and we're trying to console him and we're, we're trying to calm him down. He finally wakes up, still screaming. This is like a while, you know, before we can finally get him calm enough to get even a word out. He was real young, so it's not like he had a great grasp of language in the first place. He might have been like five, I think, at the time, maybe. Yeah, something like that. And so obviously, you know, he's tall, he's a chatty kid. Once he finally gets his wits about him to say anything, all he can say is a monster with red eyes. And I'm like, fuck, this is a problem. Yeah, dude. And I, I don't, I still haven't figured it out, Tommy. I don't have any recourse. I'm a conspiracy theorist. I'm very comfortable with the reality of the spiritual realm. Arming yourself against it, you know, not something that I've ever had to consider. You know, I've had these things, they happen throughout my life, but once they happen, you move on. And there's no thought of like really doing anything about it. But then it happens to my wife and there's a sense of urgency and I feel like I've got to do something about it. Thank you very much. And then, you know, as I'm trying to figure it out, because now I have this protector thing. I'm the husband, I'm the head of the household. I got to figure out how to. All of a sudden, only 24 hours later. It's not a lot of time to prepare. Not, not, not a lot of time to figure it out. 24 hours later, it's happening to my son. Now it's like all alarms are going off and I have to figure this out. Dude, I had zero recourse. Zero recourse. I'm in the house with the in laws. I'm not going to sage the house. I don't believe in that anyway. I don't think that's a good idea now. I understand. I think all you're doing is you're appeasing a spiritual entity by giving it a burnt offering. I think that's what's happening, that you often give spirits burnt offerings, you know, tobacco, whatever. Sage, I think is just something that appeases it temporarily and then it comes back stronger. It always does.
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Top Lobster
So, side note, that's a mistake that my aunt made time and time again.
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David aka The Raven
Yeah. All you're doing is you're making offerings to it.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, it stops and then it. And then it peaks again and it stops. But it's like, it's like Bitcoin always going higher. Yeah.
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David aka The Raven
So, I mean, it's almost anticlimactic, except it's, it's not in my opinion, just given where it all led. The next night, I've got no recourse and night is here and I'm getting ready to go to bed. We're up to the line now and I've not got a master plan. I've not got anything figured out. All I know is this thing is seemingly getting stronger and my family is now in danger.
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David aka The Raven
And so, for the first time in my life, I pray to Jesus Christ. Now, I've prayed before, I've talked to this amorphous concept of God. You know, I've got, I've had a hard life, been homeless and things like that. And so in those times of desperation, you have conversations with God, but it's, it's non directive, it's non specific. It's just like God, the universe, the guy who created everything and surely is watching over me. This was the first time I prayed directly to Jesus Christ. And I was desperate, dude. I mean, desperate.
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Top Lobster
And if you.
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David aka The Raven
Biblically speaking, Christ has a tendency to appear to those who are at their lowest. I would say that all the things that I've been through in my life never had a tremendous care of self. But as a, as a caretaker, as a father and as a husband, this is something I really care about. Lots of things can happen to me and I'll be fine, but this is happening to them and I got to Deal with it. And so the desperation was, like, off the charts, dude. And when I tell you, it stopped, like, on a dime. Nothing happened in that place from that moment forward. And, you know, ultimately, it still took a while. What I did was I oriented towards God. I went, okay, you've got my attention now. And you've definitely got, I would say, something akin to loyalty, because I'm not gonna turn my back on somebody that came to me in that hour of desperation and help me with possibly the most important thing in my life.
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Top Lobster
Can I say something?
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David aka The Raven
Go ahead.
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Top Lobster
There's an observation about this point in the story that I always make. It's like, if you get somebody. And not to insult David, please, go ahead. I'm gonna insult David.
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David aka The Raven
All right.
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Top Lobster
Like. Like, dudes like me and David, we're not like smart guys, intellectuals.
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David aka The Raven
Right.
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Top Lobster
That you would say, like, we're not gonna give you good debate thesis. We're gonna give you rough around the edges commentary with a little bit of comedy.
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David aka The Raven
But if you ask me if I read a book, the answer will always be no.
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Top Lobster
Yeah. Most likely no. So shout out to Seth Kickliter his book. But there's a thing about that kind of person, especially, like, the blue collar dude. The guy that's, like, you know, middling. Middlingly intelligent.
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David aka The Raven
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
Can express a thought. But isn't overly intellectual, where something like this happens to you and you go, that's it. Okay, we figured out. We've diagnosed this issue. Yeah, more of that.
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David aka The Raven
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
Like, it's almost, like, really simple when you think about it. An intellectual will go, well, did this really happen? And perhaps.
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David aka The Raven
Yeah, we do this.
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Top Lobster
And it's like, what do you do?
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David aka The Raven
I used to be a fabricator. A welder and a fabricator. There are the guys now. That's what I do now. So there are guys, engineers, who are not in the field, and they concoct an idea and they think about how it should go based off of all the numbers and everything. And then they would create a thing, and it doesn't work in the field. And they would come to me and say, why doesn't this thing work? And I would say, this is why it doesn't work. Here's what will work. How do I know? Because I'm actually there and I'm doing it, and I don't need to know all of the, you know, intellectual apparatus that goes into designing a thing and a 3D model and then implementing it in real life. I don't need. That was that. I'm sorry. Yeah, that was A little bit. I am the guy that's there in the field that's testing it. I don't need to know why it works initially. If I need results and it's giving me results, then I'm going to keep doing it and I'm going to learn as I go. And that's exactly what happened. It was like, okay, this has yielded good fruit. I'm going to orient towards it now. I don't understand it. You know, it's going to be a process. And I still don't understand it entirely. I probably never will. But I've continued to test it, I've continued to face towards it, I've continued to move in that direction, and it has continued to yield good results. So I'm not. Yeah, a theologian. I'm not a guy who's reading all the books. I'm a guy much like you, Tommy. Right. We've had these experiences. Those experiences are the field. We are the guys that are in the field who are figuring out what works and what doesn't work. And I just so happen to. Look, you can find a hammer could be used for a job that's unorthodox and doesn't require a hammer, but you can still get it done. You ever hammer a nail into a wall with a wrench? I've done it.
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Top Lobster
I've done that.
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David aka The Raven
I've done it. Right? And it's like, okay, but there is a better tool for this job. So if you think it's appeasing it, if you think it's worshiping it, if you think it's. It's aligning your chakras, like, yeah, maybe it'll work for a little bit, and maybe it'll work in some short instances. But there is a tool that's actually meant for that job. And Jesus Christ is a hammer, dude. It's a hammer. And if we're dealing with nails, you need a hammer. Sure, sure, the wrench will work, but you need a hammer. And you don't need to theorize. I don't need to understand how the claw hammer was designed, who made it, you know, what its purpose and intent was. I don't need to understand its composition. I just needed to go, this thing works really well. Almost like it was meant for this job. And that's what's happened to me over and over again, man.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
Well, I have to say, as someone who listens to your show, guys, you. You are smart dudes. You are smart dudes. But I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying, but that, man, that gave me chills, man, when you said your wife. And I knew he was going to say your son as well. You experience the same thing, you know, how can you explain that for skeptical people? You know, because when we have these experiences on our own, you can say some of it could be in the mind and stuff like that. Sure, that, that is an argument. But when your, your wife and your child are experiencing that as well, which I've experienced as well, I've seen that in my own eyes too. Yeah. How can you explain that, man? There's no. There's no.
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David aka The Raven
Well, that's what I'm saying.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
Other than we are being attacked for people.
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David aka The Raven
People will hear that and they'll go like, well, that's actually your daemon. That's shadow work. You need to integrate this. It's an aspect of yourself, or this is actually something that's here testing you, or what you should have done was consulted the ascended masters and Christianity is just a control system and yada yada, yada, yada. Like I. I know it all, dude. Conspiracy theorists for 20 years. I'm not saying I'm the best, I'm not the most well versed, but I am familiar with all of the things and what I think I've done pretty well. If I had any wisdom at all, it was, I will come up to a thing and I will understand it at a cursory level, and there will be something in me that it either resonates or it doesn't. This is either or. It's not. If you want to tell me it's all about the Sephiroth. If you want to tell me it's about Jacob's Ladder. If you want to tell me it's about doing shadow work. If you. Whatever. If this is about the Archons, this is about the Demiurge. If this is about, you know, the prison planet and all this.
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Top Lobster
There.
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David aka The Raven
There's something within me that it either resonates or it doesn't. And this was like, beyond. This was like I felt foolish. I felt foolish. I Felt like through all my years of conspiracy theory, Christianity, the Bible, Jesus Christ has always been on the table. And so many things in conspiracy point right back to it. And I would look at it and I would go, maybe. But it's a little bit cringe and it's a little bit gay. And I know some Christians, and they seem like simple people, and I don't think they've got it all figured out. And I don't think that that's necessarily the case. I don't think that just by virtue of going to a church, you've got it all figured out and far. In fact, I know that that's not the case. And we're talking about maybe two different things. We're talking about a system which maybe you can have some criticisms of. And we're talking about a man who came and died for our sins and overcame death. And through his name, we have this immense spiritual authority over these things that are adversarial to us, that hate us and that want to corrupt us and want to lead us to sin and want to, you know, weaponize our own desires of the flesh and like, that against us, right? Like those are two different things. A system, a building, you know, that. That takes tithing and that plays music or whatever. Like, you know, if you want to criticize that, that's a different conversation. And even that, I would say that's people doing the best that they can, you know, at scale. But if you're talking about an individual level, you can do better. But I have seen all that other stuff, and this made me feel foolish for leaving it on the table for so many years, for having so much great information. Point back to it. And for me to go, like, a little cringe, little gay. Not yet. Not interesting. Not as interesting as whatever the Masons are doing. Not as interesting as whatever the OTO is doing. Not as interesting as this thing or that thing. It just didn't do it for me because it felt so mainstream and cringy. And now I'm like, oh, that's by design. That is by design. That Christianity, that Christ has been painted with that brush. It's. It's by design. And then now I understand that there is an actual really beautiful, simple truth to it. It's that, like, yeah, it's all. It is all complicated, right? These people are worshiping entities, and they are, you know, doing this work with psychedelics, and they're. They're. They're astral traveling and they're remote viewing and, you know, there's mystery schools that have kept this and that. It's like, yeah, it is messy. And in the spiritual realm is even crazier. And it's almost like God cut right through it and was like, we got to give these dummies something really simple. Which I think is exactly what happened with. With Christ. It got so crazy. Everything is so crazy. Grace is given freely. Salvation is given freely. Not by, like, doing the shadow work, not by learning the mystery. Schools is what everybody gets upset about. It's like, no, no. What about all my coveted knowledge, dude? It's like, no, no, not by your coveted knowledge, not by your works. It is given freely through grace. All you have to do is accept it, repent, you know, go forth, sit. No more. It's like, stupid. Easy.
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Top Lobster
That's a tough one, right? I saw you tweeting about Lily Phillips today, responding to a tweet about. She's the girl. I guess she's from where you're from.
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David aka The Raven
Yeah, yeah.
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Top Lobster
Had sex with a thousand men, something like that in a day.
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David aka The Raven
Wow. I don't even think it was a day. I think it was 12 hours.
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Top Lobster
Wow. Impressive.
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David aka The Raven
It is impressive.
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Top Lobster
Very cool. She.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
That's what you get in the uk.
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Top Lobster
I think we have our own version is. Oh, no. You might have two of them. Bonnie Blue is the other one.
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David aka The Raven
Is she also British?
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Top Lobster
She's British, yeah.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
Exceptional.
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David aka The Raven
What's going on with America? We're really. We're supposed to be the land of sin, and. Yeah, all right.
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Top Lobster
We were number one at some point. Come on. So she. She got baptized, and someone goes, can Christianity do this? Can Christianity forgive her of her sins and make her a virgin again? And it's like. David just responds like, christianity doesn't do that. Yeah, Jesus Christ does that. And I'm like, yeah, that's exactly. That's exactly what needs to be said there. Because the. The conflation between these two things gets very confusing, and you start to, you
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David aka The Raven
know, this system in the Man. Right?
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Top Lobster
Yeah, yeah.
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David aka The Raven
Two different things. Yeah, it's. But, I mean, you know, that's. It's been. It's been a whirlwind, dude. And I would say that after me and Top Linked up and we did this show, and there's a lot of comedy, and there's a lot of, you know, really crass language, and we're assholes and we're terrible people. And so, you know. Well, but. But within that. Within that show, there is this orientation towards Christ and there's this analyzing conspiracy through this new lens. For me, it's a New lens, this biblical lens, and it just continues to, to yield good fruit over and over and over again. And that's the thing is, like, people go, people will see, you know, especially online, they'll be, oh, you're a Christian, therefore you don't know the coveted that I know. You don't know the, the, the mystery school that I know. And your worldview is simplistic. And I'm like, both. All of those things are incorrect. I'm aware of the shit that, you know. Maybe I don't know what is intimately as you. That's fine. I'm not like this, you know, higher intellectual or whatever, but I'm aware of the crap that you believe. And I believed it to some degree at some point as well. But when I tell you that once I started to apply this lens over and over and over again, it doesn't fail. It makes sense of everything. Every system that I look at, every conspiracy that I look at, I look at, I go, oh, okay, yeah, the Bible actually does address this. It's just not what we're taught at all.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
Do you think that's why Christianity seems to be attacked the most? And when I say attack the most, I mean all religions get attacked, but with Christianity especially, it seems to kind of be accepted by the mainstream. Would you guys agree?
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David aka The Raven
Yeah. I mean, you came from, in the UK as well. You came from a comedy realm top. So I'm sure you can speak to, like, how easy it is to dunk on it, you know, to a round of applause.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, I. But you know what? Christians have also done that themselves, in my opinion. I grew up in the church, so I did see a lot of the cringe aspects of it. I see a lot of. I was kicked out of the church for, in a sense, being who I am. I spoke up and I spoke firmly to somebody in a position of power was kicked out. They deserve the, the reputation that they get. And so that's one thing. But yeah, within the, within the comedy realm, within America in general, it's. It's very easy to dunk on Christians because it's accepted. And I, the more you kind of look at it, you're like, well, why is it accepted? And also why does everybody go out of their way? Like Adam Green being the latest dude, he's. He's like a gnostic on. On Twitter, and he hates Jesus Christ. But one of the most interesting things that popped up about him recently, I was like, oh, so Jesus Christ never existed is his big thing? And denying, the. Denying God and all this stuff. But he named his daughter Kali after, like, the God of destruction of, like, you know, Indian mythos. And I'm just kind of like, very interesting. So you'll adhere to that, but attack Jesus Christ freely, and that is okay by everybody. We can't really. You know, you can't attack Judaism. You can't attack Muslims. Well, I guess you could, but, you know, they're protected in a certain way.
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David aka The Raven
Well, that's, you know, there's like, Islamophobia, Right.
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Top Lobster
Yeah.
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David aka The Raven
Or like, anti Semitism. There's no word for Christian.
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Top Lobster
Anti Christianism.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
Yeah, there's.
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David aka The Raven
No.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
There's not.
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David aka The Raven
There's not a word for it.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
Yeah. It's never even mentioned. It's never even discuss, really. On the main street.
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David aka The Raven
No, that's fine. That's.
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Top Lobster
That's fine.
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David aka The Raven
They also kind of like, paint them like they're the problem. Right. Because the. The Christian. The body of, you know, Christians out there are synonymous in some way, shape or form with the racist white male patriarchy. You know, it kind of goes into the same category. So it's like, not only.
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Top Lobster
That's also a misnomer.
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David aka The Raven
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
So, Yeah. I mean, you know, and not to. Not to, like, go ahead and, like, cry about the way Christians have been treated. I think Christians have been treated very well in today's society. Like, you were allowed to go to church and be outright Christian. For now, that wasn't the case all the time. You know, like, after Jesus's day, these guys were persecuted like crazy. Their skin was flayed. They're hung upside down, they're boiled in oil. Not happening to us right now. Right. So we can take the jokes and that's fine. It's just.
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David aka The Raven
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
It is an interesting dynamic that it is allowed.
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David aka The Raven
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
Within America. And I think it's not just. It's not that it's just allowed. It's. It's encouraged. And I think it's encouraged because it's a thing that works. Yeah.
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David aka The Raven
It's celebrated to it to a degree. And it's actually hard because I'm constantly trying to square that where I have this comedic bent. And so does Top. And so, you know, we take to roasting people, making fun of people on the Internet, and we're pretty good at it. And that's not what people think of Christians. And I don't know, I try to square that a lot. Like, it's like this concept of, like, turning the other cheek.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
I guess there's an aspect of it, but that's not me. They do A thing when after they've approached you and they've lost firmly, they go, hey, why don't you just like lay down? Yeah, why don't you lay down and let me like trounce you?
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David aka The Raven
Like, well, here's a good example.
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Top Lobster
The rest of the Christians. And I'm like, well, that's just not me. Yeah, that's not me, dog.
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David aka The Raven
One of my buddies on Twitter said, the world is being primed for the arrival of the Antichrist. And I said, I'm gonna call him gay. You know what I mean? But that doesn't fit with what you think Christianity is.
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Top Lobster
And, and maybe it's not, maybe it's not.
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David aka The Raven
I don't know, I'm still learning, you know what I mean? I, I, this is like I said, I had a life changing experience that oriented me towards this direction. And I know I'm shedding a lot of who I was as I moved down this path, but there are certain things that I'm just not too sure that it's time to let go of. I think that these other things deserve ridicule. I think if, if an Antichrist is coming, he deserves to be called gay, you know what I mean? And I don't think that he will be, yeah, he will be called gay and he probably will be, yeah, he probably will be gay, but you know what I'm saying? So, yeah, it's a, it's a really weird arena to be in. And because of that, people will, will say, well, you guys aren't really Christian or you guys don't really believe in Christ. I'm like, you don't understand how much I believe. I probably believe more than you because I believe first and foremost that demons will manifest. Shadow people are a real thing. Cryptids are a real thing. There are actual monsters out there. And that's not a thing to be afraid of at all, actually, because in fact, we've been given authority over them. We have this ultimate power, you know, in Jesus Christ's name. So it's not a black pill, it's not to be afraid. But I'm like, these things are very real. These things are very real. I believe that. I even go as far as saying, I know that to be the case. And so when you go, you don't believe in Christ, I'm like, dude, you have no idea how much I believe in Christ. I'm just an asshole.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
Well, that's, Can I, can I ask you, it might be a difficult question, but if you'd not found Christ in that moment and this might be difficult. What do you think would have happened? How do you think that would have escalated? And I know that might be tough because it doesn't sound like it would have been positive in any way, shape or form. But so many people have these experiences and don't find, cry and continue to, to have these terrifying encounters. What are your thoughts on that?
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Top Lobster
Well, how do, how do these demonic encounters usually escalate without any intervention? It would be like continued continued persecution of the target. David probably would have went deeper into some sort of a depression. It would have began to tear your family apart.
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David aka The Raven
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
Your kid would have suffered in who knows how many different ways. And who knows, if you're, if you're dumb enough, maybe you even contacted and start to make deals.
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David aka The Raven
Sure. I mean, you know, my. So my, my wife, she grew up in that house. Um, and the room that we were in, where was her brother's old room, you know, from when he was a kid, since he's moved out and it's just a spare bedroom. Well, actually the whole thing's been demolished since, since then, so probably for the better. But she had a discussion with him, her brother, about, you know, what I went through. And he was a troubled kid and he saw a lot of stuff. Lastly, paralysis, aliens, you know, and was tormented in that place. And I think that what I was dealing with was something that was local to that area, maybe even to that house, and maybe had some attachments to that room because of the brother's experiences growing up. And the brother probably is what fed this thing for a long time. So I think in some ways what I encountered was something that was there. They're parasitic in nature. And this thing was starved, it was starving. I think that's why it moved so rapidly. That's why it revealed itself to me. Should have never done that. Once it got enough power to, you know, after looshing off me and eating all this negative emotional energy, I think it manifested, you know, to me, to my wife, to my son. Worse that it could have done was doing that so quickly because the sense of urgency that it created in me was that desperation that led to calling on Christmas. Um, but I think I was dealing with something that was there for a long time and I don't think they can do. Look, ultimately, Tommy, it's like what Top just said, you know, it can lead to possession, you know, with that, that requires a lot of consent. I think possession is probably one of the hardest things for it to accomplish. Oppression is just run of the mill shit, you know, it can stress you out. It can nudge you to be more angry. It can whisper things that you think are your own thoughts, but it's not your own thoughts. And it can whisper resentful ideas and angry ideas and sad ideas. Nobody loves you, nobody, this, you're a failure, yada, yada, that kind of stuff. And it can drive you ultimately to idle idea ideology. I would say that is the final goal. It wants you to. It wants you to kill yourself. You know, and that's what we see the vast majority of the time. I think that's what schizophrenics are dealing with. And this isn't just something that. I think we have this on. On pretty good authority. One of the friends of the show is a clinical psychologist who deals with schizophrenic patients. And he was in the field for 35 years. His name is Dr. Jerry Marzinski. And, you know, he came out of the medical industry thinking whatever the textbook diagnosis of schizophrenia, schizophrenia was, was the accurate diagnosis. And long story short, on the other end of his experiences, he goes, no, this is something external to the individual. This is not visual and auditory hallucinations caused by a, you know, chemical imbalance of the brain. This is something that's external. It gets in through trauma. The more you believe that the thoughts are your own, the louder they get, the more influential they become, until eventually they're audible. And so those things, you know, they have the same pattern. It's, you know, you're worthless, nobody loves you, this and that. Over and over again, they torment them until eventually, yeah, sure, there can be a possession thing, right? I think that's what split personality is. When the main personality recedes, you know, by disassociation and this other personality emerges in a schizophrenic patient, that is possession. That's possession. And I think they take on a bunch of different. What would you call them, personality traits. You know, it's like, oh, well, the other personality thinks they're a child. Or the other personality thinks they're a lady named sue. Or, you know, you name it. I think this is just deceptive tactics by this thing that has a parasitic relationship and that is ultimately trying to not only destroy all the relationships in the life of the individual so that it just exacerbates that feed loop. That it's in the sadness, the despair, the anger, the. All these things. It's eating. It's eating. But ultimately it drives you to suicide. And so, yeah, I think that would have been the ultimate goal. But I think it just did it too fast, man. It did it too fast. And I don't think that I would have succumbed to that. I was, you know, I came from a pretty hard life, used to be homeless and things like that. If I could deal with that, that I could deal with a little bit of like not being able to succeed in a different state and living with the in laws. But this thing, they're not smart, you know, or sometimes they're not smart. I think sometimes depending on the one you encounter can be clever and deceptive. This thing was just like impatient, wanted to go, go, go, go, go. Wanted to feed, hadn't fed in a long time. So I think I literally encountered what plagued my brother in law as a child.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
Interesting man. I think we said this on your show last time. It's. A lot of people are probably dealing with stuff like this that don't even realize it's happening to them. Yeah, they're under some sort of spiritual attack and that could be like the result of why so many families break up.
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Top Lobster
Sure.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
You know, why people go down the wrong path. And you know, I think that's, I think it's a lot more con. These attacks, these spiritual attacks I think are a lot more common to so many people. But so many people just don't see it because like we, we were saying before Christianity and, and and spirituality is attacked and is like. And maybe that's why, maybe that's why the powers that be want. Want. Want the world to be chaos. Want, you know, dysfunctional families that are not, you know. And I think, I think that's, that's very real.
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Top Lobster
So that's scary. That idea about being attacked and not seeing it or knowing it is kind of, that's kind of my story. I'm trying to figure out where to even start this. I guess I was working in the comedy sphere for a long time and I was doing a comedy show and we did events and like, you know, correlated with the Libertarian Party and things like that. And it was just a lot of fun. We were having a lot of fun. We were crossing the line during co. During COVID which was very important for people. People still kind of want that back, but I don't think I'm giving back. And we had this event at my house with Robbie Bernstein. He's the co host of Dave Smith and he did a stand up comedy show at my house. So I had a bunch of people over and I had all of the co hosts of the show that I was doing at my house. They were staying at my house, one of them brought his girlfriend, and it was fine. She's a weird girl. You guys would probably know her if I said her name.
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David aka The Raven
She's.
- [47:24]
Top Lobster
She's famous. And they stood in the spare bedroom for the night or two that they were there. It was like. Like a strange dynamic. They were there for a long time, like, sleeping in the bedroom. Like, everybody left. They're still there sleeping most of the day that we were performing, she was in the room doing whatever. I don't know. I thought she was working or something like that. The next day, everybody clears out. They're still asleep in the room. And my parents, they had a. They're building a house on my property. They were at the time. And their moving truck from Brooklyn came in. The guy comes in, his brother's supposed to be there helping him. His brother doesn't show up. He's in Tampa somewhere. So it's a whole thing. And I'm exhausted, but I go, you know what? Fuck it. I'll go out there and I'll help this guy. Keep in mind, at this point, I am not. I like conspiracies. I am also a Christian, but a disaffected Christian. As I said, I was kicked out the church at that point. I said, never going back. I still believe in God and Jesus Christ, but never going back to the church. This is done. And I go, and I go, help this guy out. Turns out this guy is like. He's one of these original proud boy members. I don't know if you guys. You know who this is. It's like a very strange set of events. He was battling Antifa back, like, 2016, 2015, when all this crazy was popping off. And now he owns a moving company and he moved my parents. So I'm talking to him, and it's interesting because, like, all the people that I talk to and the world that I'm in, he was in before, and he knows all these people, and he knows all the politics and all the stuff like that. And I was like, man, cool. So me and him are just chatting it up, and we're moving the stuff in the back. And I think we finish or we take a break and we come out, and here comes my friend and his girlfriend, and they come walking out the house, and I go, hey, come meet. Come meet these guys. Because maybe you know them, but, like, whatever, they're. They're cool. My friend comes up, his girlfriend is kind of behind him. She sees this guy, stops on a dime, turns around and walks away. It looks like she saw a ghost. And like. Like, I'm. I'm perceptive of, like, when people are around. So I'm always paying attention to body language and what's happening. I was like, that was strange. So I just say, you know, bye to my friend. They leave. No, no big deal. And I asked him later, I said, hey, what the fuck was that? And he goes, do you know that girl? And I go, yeah, I know her. She just stood at my house. And he just looks at me right in my face, and he goes, she's a witch. And I go, okay, again, I'm not dealing in the supernatural. None of that. I got nowhere to put this. So I just go, okay, like, I guess you don't like her. He knows her from before. And then he goes again, like, no, no, no, she's a witch again. I go, all right, where do I. Thanks. We chatted up. The day ends. It is what it is. I guess I'll. From. From this point, I'm gonna go back in time because it's like a very strange how this. This part happens. I am kicked out the church. It's a soft kicking out of the church. Basically, what they do is they take your membership because I was a member there, which means you're not welcome here anymore. But I was still leading the worship. I played guitar and I did all the musical organization and the sound stuff for. So I'm still doing my duties there, even though the pastor has kicked me out of the church for accusing him of embezzling money, which he might have done. Yeah, it was crazy. So I'm out of the church, and I've made up in my mind already never coming back to this place. Whatever you tell me to do, God, I'm doing the opposite. I'm doing my own thing. This is. This was my mindset because now I've, like, I've been burned by these people. And again, these people being Christians, not Jesus Christ, not God, the people, which are, you know, and the people are. They're who they are. I've since talked to the pastor. We've made up. Not. Not made up, but like, you know, we've. We've spoken about what happened, and we. We agree. But one of the elders comes up to me, and she goes, oh, God has a word for you. I go, go ahead. Fucking say it. What's the. You know, what's the word? She goes, you're gonna have a great testimony. You're gonna talk to millions of people. You're gonna be like, I guess not. She didn't say preacher, but, like, you're gonna. You're gonna be, like, preaching to millions of people. And I go, thanks, bitch. And I leave the church. I didn't say that to her. She's very nice. She's a nice lady. But in my head, right, I was like, whatever. Whatever you say, because I don't want to hear that. So I leave, and. And from there I go. Not. Not doing any of that. If. If that gets pulled. If I get pulled in that direction, I'm going in the other direction actively. Not gonna do it. Fast forward, meet David. We start doing this show. This show is Christian. It's not Christian. It's conspiracy and comedy. When we started, as a matter of fact, we. We had a very good chance of starting this show and going almost completely gnostic. Our first guest.
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David aka The Raven
Oh, yeah.
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Top Lobster
An astrologer. It was crazy. And we looked at him, though, afterwards,
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David aka The Raven
and we were like, good job. Because he was like, basically, like, everything about Christianity is fake. And we were. After the episode, we're going, like, all right, great.
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Top Lobster
And we weren't even like, I wasn't here, like, you know, talking about the Bible or Christianity, like, the way I am now. It wasn't. We weren't about that. Like, I was coming from pure comedy. David's coming from, like, this broadcasting. He does comedy. He does a little bit of everything. And after the episode, we had to decide, do we even want to do a show together? Number one, because it was like a. It was his show and my show, and we were interviewing the same guy.
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David aka The Raven
Yeah, it was a swap cast.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, yeah, of sorts. You know, a tryout. Tryout for both of us to see, like, how it would go. And I think afterward we looked at him, we were like, that was gay, right? And he's like, but it might work. He's like, yeah, but I mean, like, no, what we were talking about with the guy.
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David aka The Raven
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Top Lobster
We didn't really, like. Did you like that? He's like, I don't really.
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David aka The Raven
Yeah, yeah.
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Top Lobster
But I don't think that that's true.
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David aka The Raven
It's like, oh, the Bible is strictly allegorical. Allegorical for astrological phenomenon. And. Which, you know, is very much like Zeitgeist 2012, the film that came out. And it's like, yeah, probably that's a layer of it. But there is actual historical events and there is real truth in here. But the nature of the universe is fractal, as above, so below. So this story is written in the stars, but it's also written in your own DNA. But it's also, you know, there's like layers to it. But it's also a man who came and died for your sins. Like, it's an amazing story. And, you know, the realm that we inhabit is incredible.
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Top Lobster
But at that, at that point, like, the show had no. It didn't have a name, you know, so it was just. We had no idea what it would even be about besides, like, conspiracies he was doing. It was called the Ravens Watch. The Ravens Watch. And I had the Top Lobster show and we were doing conspiracies. Like, I was just interviewing people that had like crazy stories. Nothing about Christianity, because again, I'm like, fuck that. Not doing that. So that happens. And from there, like, the show starts to go in that direction. I think that that was like a nudge. Yeah, in that direction. Although we misbehaved very badly.
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David aka The Raven
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
We eventually started to do live events. So that one right there, Bohemian Grove. That was the second one. This was the third one. Yeah, the third one was interesting because everything fell apart like two weeks ago. Two weeks before this event. I don't know if I've told you this story. So we had a theater in a town nearby us, set up like a legitimate theater. And we had close to 300 people coming from all around the world to the theater. And the theater owner canceled us for having one of our stand up comedians, Owen Benjamin, perform. He says, if he comes and you can't do this. And I said, oh, well, this is just. We're not doing that. We don't cancel people. So we left and I immediately started looking for another option, another venue. The guy from the story that I told you slept at my house with a girlfriend. He's now operating as like third man for not necessarily our show, but we did another show with him and he's like, he's a large public figure as well. Probably he's got 300,000. I don't even know.
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David aka The Raven
Oh, yeah, yeah, he's really blown up.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, yeah. So he's helping us with the event and the event falls through. We have, like, disagreements about what happened. And he was mad at me. He's like, how come you didn't negotiate with the theater owner? I was like, it was purely ideological. I couldn't negotiate. The guy was talking about, you know, he was like, well, I have gay staff. And this guy said gay jokes and I'm Jewish and this. And I was like, he's arguing from a weird leftist standpoint. And I'm like, this is gonna. This goes nowhere. I've got two weeks to pull this off, and I gotta start moving. And from there, it was like. It was a bad breakup with this guy. Like, he was. He had. You know, I. I feel bad. He moved from Miami to the town right across the street from the theater in the assumption that we'd be doing events there all the time. And it fell through fantastically.
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David aka The Raven
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
In the craziest way. He bails on the whole thing on us. Asks his fans to, you know, ask for refunds, which they didn't. It was like. It got nasty. And me and David are left to, like, pick up the pieces of not just the event, but, like, well, what the fuck just happened here? Right? It was like we were, like, cruising. We were actually at the theater when the guy told us, you can't do it, because we were there taking measurements for the banners that we were going to put up. And, like, that day, it was just like, boom. Yeah, it was crazy. And the way that door closed was crazy. And then the way the door closed on, like, the friendship with the other guy was crazy as well. So now he doesn't talk to me. The show that we did before, which was large in the. The comedy space as well, is called Tower Gang That Falls apart. So now I'm out of the. I'm out of the comedy game. Like, not just there, but, like, I used to do T shirts and stuff like that for other people. And since I started doing Nephilim Death Squad, I just, like. I was like, hey, listen, man. It's one of those things where it's like, I could continue to pour effort into this or that, and I was like, I'll do it to myself. So, like, I'm out of the comedy game with the merchandising and all these big comics that I was doing with my podcast in general, with the event and the people that I'm just gone. Done in a day.
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David aka The Raven
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
Realistically. And I was like, man, what happened there? A little asterisk, which is kind of crazy too, is we were in that theater. We had a small studio in his house, but right across the street from his house was a coffee shop that had. I knew the owner of the town. He was renting space above the coffee shop, which we really loved. And we're like, yeah, let's rent a space there, open up a studio above the coffee shop, and then we could have one in his house, one over there. It would have been cool having guests over, and then you could take them out or whatever into coffee. But obviously that fell through. Like, we don't do any business.
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David aka The Raven
You're, like, bailed on that whole town.
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Top Lobster
Yeah. Yeah. I'm not gonna it, Tommy. It went up to the mayor of the town.
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David aka The Raven
Yeah. They wrote articles about us. Yeah.
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Top Lobster
You wanna talk about heat?
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David aka The Raven
It got crazy.
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Top Lobster
Heat, heat, heat. Yeah. And, you know, the thing, though, is, like, I think, like, about me and David, me, I've been in it for a little bit longer than David as far as, like, the heat goes. But you experience a lot of this shit, too. Yeah, it doesn't. I mean, you know, I'm human being, so it does affect me, but, like, it doesn't affect me as much as other people. So, like, they go, hey, you're canceled. And I go, all right, fuck you. And I go. And I do what I'm doing anyway, because you can't cancel me. You can't cancel people in general.
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David aka The Raven
Yeah. We got the next venue in under 24 hours. We still pulled off the entire event like it was no big deal.
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Top Lobster
It was just an empty room. We had, like. We set up all the.
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David aka The Raven
It was crazy stage and the lighting and all the mics and everything. But it. The way that the fallout happened, it almost didn't make sense because it was a success story. We had secured a venue in under 24 hours. And I think in hindsight, it makes a lot more sense to me now. I forget what it is. It's a verse in Corinthians that talks about not being yoked equally with non believers or unequally yoked with non believers. I forget exactly, but yoked is. It just means a relationship goes beyond, like, a friendship. We were entering a business deal with this guy. He's a non believer. And that doesn't. That's not a necessarily an out for me. It doesn't mean that I dislike you if you're a non believer, you know, or anything like that. Everybody's journey is their own, and everybody's path takes a different amount of time. And. And, you know, I just pray, like, you figure it out and Christ reveals himself to you and you come. But, you know, it's a different thing to enter a relationship with. With a person like that. Friendship is one thing, a contract, a binding contract with an individual who's not a believer. I think that God removed that from us because we were this close to signing paperwork. But.
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Top Lobster
And we did. I mean, you know, afterwards we did find out from some people that they were like, you know, him and another guy that I did shows with, they. They went over the house and they were doing, like, you Know, some podcast with them, and they were like, yeah, they were talking about you. I was like, yeah, I figured. And one of the things that they, like, were upset about was like, they're like, oh, yeah. You know, top went really like Christian since he met David. And I was just like, I didn't. If you look at like my performance on my, my comedy show, it was a conviction of mine a little bit, I'll be honest with you, where I'm like, we're saying some wild stuff. Like, I can't just keep saying things just to say them. If you're going to use words, use them. If you're going to shock people, use it for the correct shock value. You got to be real careful. Not just say a slur. To say a slur, it's a. It becomes, you know, obnoxious. But my performance hadn't changed. I guess maybe something about me had changed since I was doing Nephilim Death Squad. But all my attention was still on that show, on the other show. So that was an odd point of contention that they had. They didn't like something about that, which is interesting. So anyway, event happens, we pull it off. It went fine. About a three months later, we're doing a episode with Vicky Joey Anderson.
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David aka The Raven
Oh, yeah.
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Top Lobster
And she's awesome.
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David aka The Raven
She's the best.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, yeah, she. It was one of those moments where I said, oh, damn. I almost like logged off because I was like, oh, my God. She was talking about witchcraft. And you can watch this episode. It's. It's on YouTube. And she had mentioned something that I knew before because I had heard it on Merkel show. And you hear it other times as well. Like you talk about this thing called like an artifact, where a witch will leave an artifact in your house.
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David aka The Raven
And it's actually called apotropaic magic and it's a way obtropaic apotrope.
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Top Lobster
As I said, not smart, not merely.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
Can barely say that. I definitely wouldn't be able to say that.
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David aka The Raven
But there is. Yeah, it is this. It's a methodology that a practitioner, a witchcraft practitioner leaves an object behind or an item behind, and it's an anchor point and it just gives them, you know, more authority over you in the spiritual realm to be able to execute whatever it is that they want to execute. But it's a. It's a real thing. Typically, by the way, it happens in jars, which I found one when I was a kid in the woods. Pulled it out of a tree jar filled with strange liquid pins and like a chunk of Flesh inside of a wrapping. And I smashed it on the ground. And I was like, oh.
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Top Lobster
And released the salmon.
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David aka The Raven
I think, honestly, I screwed up something for somebody because, you know, it's advantageous for them to have that there. And I came across it and smashed it on the ground.
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Top Lobster
So they was fermenting it.
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David aka The Raven
They was fermenting it. Yeah.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
Whoa.
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Top Lobster
So what happened to me was after, like, they sleep over and after the guy, like, flashback again. Rewind. Now we got to go into the house. Me and my wife are back at home and we got to clean up the house because we just had, like a big party. Basically stand up comedy after this dude
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David aka The Raven
was like, this chick's a witch.
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Top Lobster
Yes. Yeah. Maybe even the next day or like a couple days later. Whatever. We get to the spare room, eventually we clean it up. And my wife is like, what the. I found in the spare room there was like a pair of panties, dirty panties in here. And they were, like, kind of small for the girl that should have been wearing it. And I was like, dirty? What do you mean dirty? And she wouldn't tell me. Flash forward talking to Vicki Joey Anderson, she's talking about witchcraft artifacts. She's like, yeah, often they'll leave this. And I think she even mentioned something about, like, blood and like. Like, they'll be. You know, there'll be blood like that. That's like a good signifier of this. So I call my wife.
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David aka The Raven
These bodily fluids, blood, fecal matter, like that. This is.
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Top Lobster
Yeah.
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David aka The Raven
Like what's used in. In magic. Sexual excretions.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, excretions. So I'm like, I'm. I'm panicking on the show and I call my wife, and I was like, hey, hey, hey. I need you to tell me, remember when we had that party? What was on the panties? And she's like, are you kidding me? He's like, I'm not gonna tell you. That's, like, embarrassing for the girls. Like, what was on the panties? I will. I'll get physical with you. What was on the panties? She's like, all right. So, like, like dried blood, shit in the. Like in the thong area. And she was like. And, you know, probably who knows what else. And I'm like, so, like, just Santorum.
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David aka The Raven
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
All that stuff mixed up.
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David aka The Raven
By the way, this chick is an outspoken practitioner. Right. Like, she's.
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Top Lobster
Now she is. Before she was larping in the right wing political space and was actually on infowars for a little while, but now
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David aka The Raven
she's taken off her mask.
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Top Lobster
Now she's just doing cosplay. And Onlyfans, which I, you know, I think about her a lot. And I do pray for her because she's not. She's never really treated me badly. Besides. Well, what I'm about to tell you, I don't think she's a bad person. I just think something went wrong at some point with her. So we find that flashback again, no big deal. My wife throws it out, cleans the sheets and all this shit. About like three months after the event, my kids get really sick. And I'm like, we had just moved to Florida. I had left a job with really good health insurance and like a six figure job to come here and take a chance and do this or whatever. My kids are sick. They're like. It's like constant diarrhea. We're bringing them the specialists, we're trying to figure it out. Spending ton, like a lot of money on doctors because it's like I'm paying for like private insurance now. And it's like, it's the whole thing. So the kids are. They start to like taper off and not recover fully, but like, not. It's not as severe. Immediately after my wife gets sick, she's getting like, what is it called? Vertigo. She thinks she has like something wrong with her brain. We send her to CAT scans because she, like, she's seeing things upside down. She's getting pain throughout her whole body that's like moving in different spots to the point where she becomes like bedridden for a month. And I was like, she's gonna die, like, man. Yeah.
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David aka The Raven
I mean, I think, I think that's the. The reality of it is, you know, this is something that we've been kind of tracking lately. I don't know if you see this, Tommy, but it's like there used to be this sort of cheeky, ironic paganism and witchcraft, and that was really prevalent when we were younger. You know, I don't know if I don't want to be like the kind of guy that's like a satanic panic thing, but like, you know, Harry Potter probably aids in some of that and makes it fun. And, you know, I was a real big fan of those films and to some degree I still am, but I recognize what they do culturally. It's a slow, you know, it's a slow path that you head down. I know a lot of these girls that I used to go to school with that would memorize the spells, they would talk about their favorite characters and they would go to cons and they would dress in the robes and Things. And I know a lot of those girls that are now adults, and it's now, like, that routine spell casting and offerings and stuff is. It's part of their everyday life. And I think we've crossed this line now where we're watching a real return of unironic paganism. Unironic witchcraft. Yeah. And it is so prevalent. It's super prevalent. And, you know, if you just.
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Top Lobster
It works.
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David aka The Raven
It works.
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Top Lobster
Yeah.
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David aka The Raven
Well, that's the reason that it's prevalent is because it does yield results, but people don't quite understand what they're dealing with.
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Top Lobster
I think it'll yield results if you're. If you're an idiot, if that. And I say that, like, in a kind way. Like, I don't know, like, he's. He. The guy told me God sent some random dude with a scar on his face that was doing all these. And he told me she's a witch. And I had nothing to do. I had no recourse to say except for, like, all right, you know, cool. So my wife is sick. She's really sick. And, like, we had moved to Florida, and we had some savings from the house that we had just sold, but we bought a house, and now I have this money, and we're like, well, this is like, you know, if goes sideways. But I. I decided. I was like, hey, listen, we got to get you up and running, because if we don't have. If I don't have a wife here, why did I move my family? Like, my family for, like, a good reason. So we spent so much money on doctors, and. And she's a nurse. So, like, she was aware of, like, the. The Western medical system and the medications that they want to put you on, and she didn't want to go on those things for life. So, like, between supplements, between. We did some, like, frequency stuff, which was actually very interesting. Other kind of heliopathic doctors, but all this stuff is very expensive. None of it's covered by insurance. So 15 to $20,000 later, like, but she's better. And then I start doing the show with David. It goes in a certain direction. And the craziest thing is that, like. So, like, I don't know, even though I could have probably taken this witchcraft thing seriously immediately and battled it in a certain way, I wasn't equipped, and I didn't know how. I also wasn't thinking that way. I was thinking more like, this doesn't happen because it's not real. Yeah, this isn't real. But I guess it was real. And, you know, Vicky Joy kind of put that into perspective for me and, like, it all hit me at once on that episode as I'm thinking about it. But we do this show and the first sponsor that we get, like, who the fuck sponsors a show that hasn't. Hasn't even started, really.
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David aka The Raven
Yeah, yeah.
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Top Lobster
First sponsor, we get Frequency Healing Technology sending us checks.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
Wow.
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Top Lobster
Sending us stuff, helping us get off. Shout out to Matt Rife for whatever reason. Second sponsor, we get supplement Parasite Cleanse company for no reason. Again, a show that has no business doing any of this stuff has no business even getting sponsors.
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David aka The Raven
Oh, yeah. It's so hard to get sponsors. It doesn't matter if it's early in the career of a show or late in the career of the show. I know guys that have been doing this for a long time that still have, you know, trouble do. And. And, you know, I've tried to secure my own sponsors, real hit or miss, but these things just showed up.
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Top Lobster
Yeah. Next, the next sponsor, like health care Healthcare, like, health product company. Because, like, now, again, my wife is like, after we got her, like, healed up, now everything is. Has to be organic and all this stuff. And I get it. She's like, she's not around.
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David aka The Raven
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
Sponsorship from then this is within the first six months of the show. And it's like all that money that I. I thought I, like, lost spending on my wife is just like, here's back and more. Wow. I don't know. Yeah, you explain it to me. Yeah, that gave me chills, man. Yeah. And then I guess to top it off, after the Leesburg event, when, you know, like, we told, like, Leesburg, the town that we got kicked out of, that we wanted to do the. The coffee shop studio on top of the coffee shop, because it seemed like that's what we were supposed to do. Like, oh, all signs point to doing this. And then. And then it falls through fantastically. He's like, you're not supposed. God's like, you don't work with that guy anymore. You don't. You don't do this type of comedy anymore. You don't work in this town. But you were close. You're close. You still do comedy. You work with a different white guy and. Yeah, coffee shop, but not on top of one. Inside of one.
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David aka The Raven
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
And it's like, all right. And this is what happened out of. Realistically, out of nowhere. Like, this is. None of it actually makes any sense. So we're just doing whatever we do and that's it. Actually, look at that.
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David aka The Raven
I printed this out and, like, we have these. Oh, here we go.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, this is a good sign. This is a. This is a Latin word. Retardio. Return to God. Let me see if I can put that a little closer. Yeah.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
So that's awesome, man. Yeah.
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Top Lobster
Retar means return. Dio means God. And when you put them together, you know, it sounds like.
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David aka The Raven
Which is funny because that's all of our branding.
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Top Lobster
Yeah. So, like, it's one of the things that I stuck to that's like, I made this little thing with our nephilim skulls on it. But retard do return to God. It just means, like, be. Be completely be. Be clear. Not in the. Not in the. The way that you'll hear with a new age. New age people. But, like, be open to how God wants to work in your life, work through you. Don't fight it, because when you fight it, it's gonna happen anyway. Hi. There you go. We just passed, like. I think we just passed, like, 5 million audio listens at least over the last two years. So.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
If that lady's still alive, that came true, even though I said no.
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David aka The Raven
Yeah, that's funny. Yeah.
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Top Lobster
But that's who I am. I take the hard path. Like, you got to, like, really kicking and screaming. That's who I am. Maybe that's who I'll always be. I don't know. David. David seen me kicking and screaming a lot of times with my attitude, but
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David aka The Raven
seems like God just keeps getting what he wants, though. Yeah.
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Top Lobster
Yeah. At a certain point, you stop fighting. But also, I think the kicking and screaming is part of the. The journey.
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David aka The Raven
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
It's part of, like, I wouldn't be able to be who I am. Like, I think. A good point. Like, at the Leesburg Theater, when the guy tells you, you can't do this without all that kicking and screaming and that, like, the. The ability to look at the pastor and be like, you're doing something wrong. I know no one else is telling you here, but I'm going to tell you, and I'm not going to say it. Nice. That'll get you beat up and scuffed up a little bit, but I think you kind of need that, because I wouldn't have been able to tell that guy no, you know?
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David aka The Raven
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
I just told him, thank you. You know, when he said, you can't do it here.
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David aka The Raven
Thank you. What was the alternative? Compromise and get rid of.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, the alternative is always compromise. And then that's what that. That entity, I think when it's presenting itself to your son and your wife, it's doing the same thing. It's asking you.
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David aka The Raven
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
Will you compromise now?
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David aka The Raven
Mm.
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Top Lobster
Are you gonna. Are you gonna, like, do what I say? If I beat you down, if I beat you to the ground, if I take everything from you, like the story of Job, are you going to compromise? And I don't. You know, for me, I'd like to say no. We. We've been through a lot, but we haven't been through that much. You know, nothing like that. Crazy. This is all kind of superficial. This is fun shit. This is. This is fun stuff. But there will come a time, I think, where you're gonna have to say no.
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David aka The Raven
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
And in a big way. Not just a no, I'm not gonna get the shot or, you know, this and that.
- [76:44]
David aka The Raven
No, I'm not gonna worship.
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Top Lobster
Yeah. I'm not gonna worship your false God. No, you can cut my head off. Okay. And as you do it, I'm gonna tell you to suck my dick. And that's not very Christ, like, as they cut your head off me, like. Okay.
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David aka The Raven
It's not very Christ, like, as you call the Antichrist gay.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, exactly.
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David aka The Raven
Yeah. Maybe it's not. Maybe it's not.
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Top Lobster
But I'm not Jesus Christ. I'm. I am me. I'm top lobster. And it's. I'm kind of a piece of. But that's kind of. This is how you asked how we got here. That's how we got here, Tommy.
- [77:15]
David aka The Raven
Yeah, this is.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
This is what happened, guys, man. I think. I think it's.
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David aka The Raven
It's.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
I'm so thankful you shared your story today. Incredible. Both of you have had incredible journeys into this world, and. And your show's amazing. So we're the listeners. I'm thankful. And everyone that listens are thankful as well, you know, because you're here and. And you're killing it. So it's just amazing, man. You get. You both gave me goosebumps about 20 times today.
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David aka The Raven
Oh, thank you, brother.
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Top Lobster
I appreciate it, man.
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David aka The Raven
I hope.
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Top Lobster
This is incredible. Did we get freaky?
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
Oh, we got. We got more than freaking.
- [77:49]
Top Lobster
Hell, yeah.
- [77:52]
Tommy (Podcast Host)
Amazing stuff, guys. And I think it's so important that guys like you, guys like me, guys like everyone, share these experiences because, you know, there's people out there that might be in these positions that you guys are in.
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Top Lobster
Well, that's like.
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David aka The Raven
If people are listening, it's like, you might not realize that some of the shit that's plaguing your life, if you have a consistent thing over your life where things keep going wrong, you know, you might be you might be a victim of something that you don't realize. You might have come into agreement with some sort of spirit, and you didn't realize that you gave it consent. Because it's not just like, acknowledge the terms and agree, you know, that's not how the spiritual realm works. There's a bunch of different ways that we give consent to spiritual entities and forces on a regular basis. And you might not realize that the thing that plagues you isn't just like your bad luck or isn't just some woe is me or something might have actually been pitted against you. And I don't want to be the type of guy that's like, everything is demonic, but, like, maybe the thing that you're going through is demonic. Maybe there's actually something. There's no neutral parties in spiritual warfare. There's a spiritual realm around us at all times. It is constantly engaging with you. It is obsessed with you. It is obsessed with you. There's not a person alive today or throughout history that hasn't been in constant engagement. Engagement with the spiritual realm, whether knowingly or unknowingly. So if you're listening to this, you are, whether you like it or not. And if you're the type of person where you. You find, let's say, because there's worse instances, right? There's like, people whose lives are evident that something else is going on. If you're. If you're drug addicted, if you're depressed all the time, if you're constantly injured, if your relationships and your life are falling apart, that's probably a really great sign. If you look around you and the fruits of your life are rotten in every aspect that you can count, you might be either the victim of some sort of spiritual warfare. You look around for redneck, you might be a redneck.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
If.
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David aka The Raven
Maybe go around, look for panties. There may be panties in your house. You know what I'm saying?
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Top Lobster
But in Merkel stories, even worse, like some of these. These artifacts that were hidden by, I think they were warlocks.
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David aka The Raven
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
You couldn't. Couldn't even see them. You had to go there. Like he said, the dude had to go there and pray in order to, like, perceive these. Like a sock. Yeah, a sock left somewhere where they should have found it, but they couldn't see it until they're looking with a different set of eyes. I may be the same way that Vicky kind of just pulled that veil off of my eye.
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David aka The Raven
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
You know.
- [80:20]
David aka The Raven
Yeah. And so, I mean, you know, you might be listening to this and you might Have a bunch of things in your life that are, you know, you're looking around and maybe you're smacking a nail with a wrench, you know what I mean? And maybe what you need to do is grab the appropriate tool. And the appropriate tool for spiritual warfare is always Jesus Christ. It's always Jesus Christ. So, you know, figure what it. Figure it out, man. Like I said, I don't want to be the kind of guy that's like, it's all demonic, but like, sometimes it is 100% demonic. And your inability to explore that avenue is just leaving you in a constant vulnerable state. You're sick, you're addicted, you're crippled, you're this, you're that. Something else could be going on, you
- [81:04]
Tommy (Podcast Host)
know, and the help is there, and it's absolutely free as well. Yeah. You know, this, this. It's absolutely free. Brothers, man, this has been amazing. Thank you so much for your time today. Before we, before we wrap it up, have you guys had any experiences with UFOs or have either of you seen Bigfoot?
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David aka The Raven
I mean, I've had. This is like.
- [81:26]
Top Lobster
Are you having. This is his. Are you.
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David aka The Raven
Are you having fun? I should get it.
- [81:29]
Top Lobster
Yeah.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
This is. Why are you having fun? Question.
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David aka The Raven
I saw a gray.
- [81:33]
Top Lobster
Oh, it was a black. Wasn't it black?
- [81:36]
David aka The Raven
It was dark. So I mean, you know, my, my, my grandmother was a lifelong abductee victim and, and that's really bled into the lives of not only her kids, but their kids as well. And I'm of that generation, the their kids generation. And, you know, I guess I'll make it quick, but when I was younger, me and my friends had a little spot in the woods where we would go with our BMX bikes. And, and it was right on the outskirts of town and we would ride our bikes on some dirt hills. And we even had something you could kind of call like a bowl where it was all dug out and you could ride your bike into it. And. But next to this spot. So that was like the local hangout spot for us, you know, 11, 12, 13 year olds in town. And, and on the outskirts of that spot there was a little creek. And around the creek there was some tall grass. And as kids we would stomp paths through the tall grass. You'd lay it down with your feet. So it became kind of like a maze and wasn't like the coolest spot to hang out, but every once in a while we'd find ourselves in there. And one day, me and my buddy Shane. Shane. I almost said his last name. Almost doxed him. Cashman. No, no, not Shane. Cashman. Me and Shane were stomping our way through the, the tall grass and we're navigating the maze and all of a sudden something starts running towards us in the tall grass. Now I grew up in a household where we always had like three to four dogs at any given time. We had every animal you could think of. We had owls and tortoises, we had salamanders, we owned raccoons. We just had every critter you can think of. I grew up watching Animal Planet. Steve Irwin was, was my hero as a kid. My mother wept when he died, you know, and I say all that to say like I understand animals, very familiar with them. And I lived in a place where if you got a white tailed deer occasionally, that was, that was abnormal. It's like, oh my God, the deer are moving into town. Like that started to happen when I got older. Deer started to come in and, and you know, got strange. You know, no black bear in this area. So when something is running towards us, I'm familiar with animals and very quickly I have the thought of dog, this is a dog. And this thing is boogieing so quickly towards us that I'm thinking it's we're going to get attacked. It's happened so fast, Tommy, that me and my buddy only have time. Our reaction is to grab each other because we're real close to each other and this path is narrow, right? We're just kids and we've stomped the paths ourselves. So it's not like a super wide. It's just like a skinny little path through the tall grass. We grab each other and this thing bursts out of the tall grass and exposes itself to us. Now I. This is New Jersey. This is the suburbs of New Jersey. Like I said, whitetail in some areas, Black bear up north. This thing was bipedal. These are things that I know. There's some things I'm not sure of. There are things that I know because it all happened so fast. I know it was on two legs. I know that, I know that it was the size roughly of like a toddler. I would have placed its age around like I don't know, three to four years old just based off the height. I know that it was completely naked and I know that it was basically black. Now I'm not talking about like, like black skin. Like we're, you know, black people, they're technically brown and white people are technically peach or something. Like. No, no, I'm saying the color black. It Was black, but it wasn't like a shadow. You know, sometimes you see a shadow and the shadow is so dark that it's darker than the darkness around it. No, this was a three dimensional thing. I could have touched it. I could see the surface of its skin. You know, it was black, but it was here. It wasn't a shadow. And it was. Now those are the things that I know. Naked, black, toddler, bipedal. The things that I'm not too sure that I know was like its head felt like it was bigger and it was bald. I know it was bald. I know it was bald. And it was like. This is what I'm not too sure I know, but I think it was ashy. So like, like unmoisturized. Unmoisturized.
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Top Lobster
Stole your bike?
- [86:05]
David aka The Raven
Didn't touch my bike. Ran right past it, which is, you know, suspicious. Unmoisturized. Here's another thing I do know. Very fast, very fast. It ran out in front of this path and then it continued back on into the tall grass as if it didn't give a about us, was not bothered by us, didn't interact with us. We just had enough time to re. To retract and grab each other and brace for impact, and it just blew right past us. Now, for the longest time, Tommy, I said, I saw a naked black baby in the woods, all right? Now I'm like 11 or 12 when this happens. Maybe, maybe 11, actually. Because I, now that I think about it, I always remember being around 9, 11, when I was 16 years old, I was telling that story to somebody. And as the words are coming out of my mouth, I realize I've got enough life data now that there's no way you're gonna put a toddler in the tall grass in the woods, strip them naked and have him run that fast. Even the coordination. I've never seen a kid run like that. But even if you did, you had a spectacular kid. Black kids are athletic. You got a spectacular kid and he can move real fast. Put him in the tall grass. The tall grass and the mud and the dirt. You know, the little stalks of tall grass that stick up when they're broken. They'll stab you in the feet. At 16 years old, I knew, oh, man, if you strip me naked right now and said, run through that tall grass by that creek, you could be like, yeah, oh, oh, oh. There's no way I'm. This thing was in full sprint and stride, not slowing down, not bothered by our presence. What kid just runs past other kids in the woods and doesn't say, help me, help me, I'm lost. Nothing made sense about the story, Tommy. After, after a few years when you're 11 or 12, it's just a crazy thing that happened. But when you're left with the reality that this did happen and you start to have the faculties to ask questions, none of the questions had reasonable answers. Why didn't he care that we were there? Why wasn't he looking for help? Why was he naked? Why was he so fast? Why was he so black? I've like weird black. Like it just. None of it made any sense, dude. And it just so happens that that year. This is in Carteret, New Jersey. People can look this up. 2001, Carteret NJ UFO sightings. Some of the most spectacular UFO sightings that I've ever been adjacently connected with because I didn't have the pleasure of seeing them, but people I went to school with did, Their parents did. There were these craft not at all far walking distance from that area above. They were above the turnpike above and just this useless information. But above the turnpike, above the McDonald's, above the Walgreens in the sky. These orbs sitting there from daytime until nighttime. So you saw them in the daytime. They were there for so long that local news crews were able to show up and interview people on the streets who are pointing up at them. People were coming out of their jobs and staring at them. And all the way until the sun went down and the sky was dark, these things were still there. And then I think they just blinked out, you know, that's it. They just kind of faded out and went back to dark. But now, like I said, my grandmother, lifelong abductee, victim and, and if you go to Joseph, I forget what his name is. The MUFON investigator, Joseph Jordan. Joseph Jordan. I'll never remember that guy's name. I know Joseph Jordan. He's a MUFON investigator and he's handled personally like I don't know how many hundreds and hundreds of cases. And he said in the over 600 cases he's ever dealt with where people had abduction experiences unanimously, they all had occult practitioners within their, their, their bloodline, which my grandmother was. And that it wasn't just them, it was a bunch of people in their family that would have these experiences too. That's the case for me. I've had these experiences. My grandmother had these experiences. I got two cousins that had these experiences. My mother has weird stories. Her sister is full blown schizophrenic in the worst possible way that you could imagine when people hear schizophrenia and they go, what's that like? You imagine like a crazy homeless person. That's my aunt dog. So I don't know why this thing showed itself to me. I don't know why they continually, like, I can understand the haunting. I could understand the spiritual access and the looshing and the sucking of energy and all this stuff. I get that predatory, parasitic in nature. But the why show yourself to me when I'm hanging out with my friends and we're riding our bikes in the dirt paths and we're in the tall grass? I. I don't know why that is, but, I mean, you know, to this day, it's one of those stories where I. Is a brief moment, and I got a lot of information from it. But we talked about it before, Tommy. Right? It's like, nowhere to put it. Nowhere to put it. Except unless you're me, I figured out a way where to put it. What that thing's doing right now, I don't know. Laughing. Every time I tell the naked black baby story on a podcast, it's like he's telling it again. He's saying the story, man.
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Top Lobster
Well, I've never seen a naked black baby. Oh, go ahead, Tommy.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
What if it was like, this is just putting it out there. What if it was like a small Bigfoot? Like a baby Bigfoot? Like a child Bigfoot.
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David aka The Raven
So the area that I was in, and I'm not saying that Bigfoot has to be, like, in a forest, because I've heard stories where Bigfoot is, like, in a patch of woods on the outskirts of town, too. You know what I mean? So, like, sometimes you think of, like, national Forest or something like that. But I've heard stories that break that mold. This. All I'll say is that this thing had no hair. It was. It was naked and smooth. So, you know, it could have been. Who knows? It could have been. I think I've heard stories like this. In fact, there's a.
- [91:48]
Tommy (Podcast Host)
There's an interesting video, and I think it's in New Jersey, of what appears to be some. Some kind of ape or something in the background, like, swinging through the trees. I don't know if you guys have seen that.
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David aka The Raven
I don't think I've seen it.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
Small and they call it a baby Bigfoot in New York. I'm pretty sure if you Google that, it'll come up. But it's an interesting video that's been about for a long time. And it just. When you Was. When you. When you said that it Kind of took me to there as well.
- [92:10]
David aka The Raven
I mean, there's something here. Like if you look up Tianac, which is T I Y a N a K, it looks like a naked baby and it's bald and it's black. I mean, it could have easily been something like that. You know, there's no shortage of, of cryptids out there. All shapes and sizes and, you know, who the heck knows what I saw. In fact, there might be zero relationship whatsoever to, to the UFO sighting that year. It's just like me trying to make sense of, of my experience. And so it just so happened we did have a pretty profound UFO experience that year. But I don't know, man. I mean, who, who the heck knows what it was? It could have been anything except in my opinion, a naked black toddler. That just doesn't make any sense. You ever seen a baby try to run? Their heads usually weigh so much that they go, you know, in whatever direction their head leans. This thing was this. You know what? I'll go as far as to say it was fully developed, this thing. It was explosive. It was fast, it was sprinting. This thing was done growing. Maybe you could imagine it wasn't still when it's like developed stages, you know, this thing was go. It was, it was fully realized, whatever this little creature was. But you know, it just makes you wonder, like, why the hell. Why show yourselves? It's in the tall grass. It was obscured when it first got on our radar. It didn't have to reveal itself at all unless it really had some place it was going. Like it really. And let me tell you, it was moving like it had some place it was going to. This thing had some place to be. Maybe that is.
- [93:48]
Top Lobster
Should have followed it.
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David aka The Raven
No, hell no, dude. We screamed and we ran out of the woods and we ran through the trailer park and we ran all the way to the park that was nearby and we collapsed, you know, in heavy breathing in the grass on the, on the edge of the park. Like it was. It was terrifying. It was terrifying. And then we.
- [94:08]
Tommy (Podcast Host)
Do you remember what, what the face looked like? Can you remember what the face looked like? No, I know it was quick.
- [94:13]
David aka The Raven
It was so fast, man. Like I said, the blackness about it was like, you know, it was. It was. It was like this thing. Like, you see how the light catches off of it? Like it was three dimensional. It was really there, but it was black like that. Then that didn't make any sense. I mean, I knew some kids that were from Africa and they were super dark, but Eddie Murphy's pretty black.
- [94:36]
Top Lobster
Oh, yeah. Like, there's that black model that's real black.
- [94:39]
David aka The Raven
Like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like that.
- [94:41]
Top Lobster
But like, dude, what are the odds that you get that a baby.
- [94:45]
David aka The Raven
And here's another instance that happened. So I had a best friend growing up, and he. We were walking through the trailer park that was right there. Like, you had to walk through it to get to the woods. And he was telling me. He's like, yo, dude, there's a black baby there. And he said. I didn't respond. And we kept walking. He's like, yo, dude, there's a black baby there. And it says, just standing in the middle of the street in between the. You know, the. And I just wouldn't respond, wouldn't look, wouldn't care. And he was only able to get my attention after we passed it and we're out of view. And then after we passed it, and I was like, what do you want, dude? And he's like, there's a black baby you didn't see. I've been calling you. And I was like, nah, dude. So I don't know. And that one to me is like, that's his story. Even though he was talking to me about it, I don't remember that at all. He still will tell that story. He's like, yeah, there's a time where I saw a black baby. You refused to even turn your head to me. That didn't happen. I don't remember that even a little bit. So I don't know what to. What to make of that. But same area maybe 200ft from where we were.
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Top Lobster
Man. I don't have any stories as cool as that. My stories are just, like, fairly common. I don't know. Shadow person, scene one.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
Pretty scary, but cool.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, but not as cool as, like, a scary cooling apparition or like, baby. Yeah, the shadow. I was born in a house in Seagate, which is actually where Jeffrey Epstein was born.
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David aka The Raven
Oh, whoa.
- [96:16]
Top Lobster
Yeah. Crazy. But it's that, you know, no relation.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
Sure, yeah.
- [96:21]
Top Lobster
Palm Beach, Pete.
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David aka The Raven
We went to a couple of parties together.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, he was. He was actually already, like, well into his career. Career by the time I was born. But I was born in this house. Not in the house in the hospital, but, like, that's where I lived the first two or three years of my life. House is extremely haunted. My. My parents then leave the house for their house, and my next. I think my.
- [96:43]
Tommy (Podcast Host)
My.
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Top Lobster
One of my uncles moves in. Like, this landlord loved. Loved the family. I guess we paid on time, so she just kept renting to my family. So my uncle moves in, he sees a bunch of crazy shit. The next aunt moves in, and she's there for, like, 25 years. You've spoken to her daughter?
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David aka The Raven
Oh, yeah.
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Top Lobster
The things that they see in this house, just absolutely insane. But I've seen. I've seen a bunch as well. One of them that sticks out to me the most would be we're having a sleepover. And there's always paranormal stuff happening, like whether there's a battery that's going off, there's a toy that's going off that needs batteries, doesn't have them. Lights on and off, noises, you name it falling. It's just normal in this house to the point where you ignore it. But I was in the living room, and we're all sleeping over, and I look and my cousin, my older cousin, who this thing is now attached to in, like, in Pennsylvania, she actually left, but it's still with her. It's standing over her. And I remember getting the feeling of, like, oh, it's claiming dominion over her. And it was a shadow figure, like, darker than dark, but red eyes. Because I can see that it's looking at her. And the thing is as big as the door frame. And she's sleeping in, like, in front of where the hallway would be. And it's just over her, like, lurched over, but still, like, looks like it barely fit through the doorway. And I just, like, put my blanket over my head. I was like, forget that. Nothing. Nothing to do here.
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David aka The Raven
Classic, classic, classic shadow person story. Well, classic defensive move as well as a child. Blanket over the face.
- [98:21]
Top Lobster
Oh, this is. Yeah, this is Top Lops's dog, man. I don't know if you know this, but the Dogman exists in a hyperspace state that exists and doesn't exist unless you look at it.
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David aka The Raven
Yeah. The observer determines the existence of the Dogman.
- [98:36]
Top Lobster
It is consistently disemboweling you and leaving you alone, depending on whether you make eye contact with it. So don't look at this shit, but. Oh, boy, we got. Wow. Thank.
- [98:46]
David aka The Raven
Bought cheeses and pistachios. That's really nice.
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Top Lobster
In front of the camera. No problem. And my UFO event. More in a minute. More recently, actually, since I've been living here. This probably happened last year or so, I think. I called you right after. I'm sitting on my porch and I'm looking out towards the east, and this thing comes from the south. And it cut. It's. It's in the distance and. And there are planes that fly over My. My area, actually, like, there's a lot of. There's a lot of planes. You'll see commercial planes and you'll see residential plane. Like, you know, like smaller craft, but, like, you can tell, like, the smaller ones are low. And you can see the wings. You know what they are. You could hear them. The resident. The. The commercial ones are very high up. You can see them. They'll often have their blinking lights on the. On the wings, and you can. You can see what they are. But this is like the broad daylight, middle of the day. I think I was waiting for you to come over. We were gonna start a show or something like that. And I'm sitting there and I'm just looking. And this thing flies from the south to. Is south to north. And it's evident. It's like very shiny metallic object, but it's in the distance, very far away from what I can perceive. So it's got to be large because I'm still seeing. I'm seeing glimmer off the sun, which is now, like, above me, and I'm looking at it. And then it goes to the east, like, super fast to the east. So like, basically away from you, right like that. And then it disappears because I can't see it anymore. And I was like, that's strange. And I go, huh? And then about a minute later, same thing, same movement, same glimmering object from the south to the north stays there for a second and then shoots to the east out of my sight, like, becomes like, you know, just a pinpoint disappears. And I'm like, oh, my God. Wish I would have recorded that anyway. And then a minute later, fucking again. I think this thing did it like three or four times. The same exact movement in the same spot, like, away from it was almost like performing for me. And I'm like, that's what they do, though. Yeah. And each time I'm like, oh, I should have recorded it, but you don't think to take your phone. I was like, there's no way it's
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David aka The Raven
gonna do it again.
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Top Lobster
Gonna do it again, like three or four times. I called David and he was like, that's fascinating. What time's the show today?
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David aka The Raven
It's all just run of the mill stuff at this point. Yeah.
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Top Lobster
I was like, but that's like, I don't. Yeah. To be honest, it's like it didn't like, change my life or anything. It's just something. I was like, yeah, that's not. That's not how things move. It's not how a Plane. A plane doesn't move this way and then go out of your sight that way. And it doesn't do it forward.
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David aka The Raven
Would you say it. It was. I mean, did it that many times? Do you think it was aware that you were looking?
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Top Lobster
It's a strange. It was so far away. It's how I. It seems like it's performing for me or maybe for somebody else that's closer that it's looking at, but, like, it's doing a thing. It's. It's performative for sure. It's doing the same maneuver. Yeah, it was it for me. I don't know. Yeah, but that. That happened. And that was probably less than a year ago. Yeah, that was when we had the studio at my house.
- [101:49]
David aka The Raven
I had that one. I got out and I chased it. I'm on the porch with my wife not long ago, and all of a sudden, I look up in the night sky.
- [101:59]
Top Lobster
We be seeing shit, Tommy.
- [102:00]
David aka The Raven
And something. Something's moving across it. Looks like a comet with a tail.
- [102:04]
Top Lobster
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
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David aka The Raven
But it's moving so slow. And the tail is not facing the right direction.
- [102:12]
Top Lobster
You sent me a video of it, didn't you?
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David aka The Raven
Yeah, yeah. It's a shit video. But the tail is in front of it. Almost like it's illuminating where it's going. Mm. And it's cruising across the sky for so long, and people are like, that's a plane, dumbass. Like, no, no. This thing drove me. I got my phone and I ran out of the house and I was able to see it. It's changing colors.
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Top Lobster
That's the thing. We will see, like, from. From where we are. You'll see a lot of Elon's launches.
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David aka The Raven
Oh, yeah, I've seen that too.
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Top Lobster
You'll see that. I know what that looks like, and I know what Starlink looks like. When it's in the atmosphere, like, you can tell, like, there's like, a group of them. I've seen that before. There are things that, like. Like I said, like, the movements are dead giveaway of, like, all right, something has happened that's intelligent. It's either being controlled intelligently or it is intelligent. So when you're seeing stuff like that, it's like, yeah, this is something else.
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David aka The Raven
Yeah, it was bizarre, but, yeah. I mean, you'll see. And it's also wide open out here.
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Top Lobster
Yeah.
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David aka The Raven
Florida is very flat, and there's no mountains and there's no skyscrapers, really not where we're at. So it's like, you can see far, man. You can see. See a Lot. So I would say on any given night, you look at the sky long enough, you'll see something.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
Yeah, absolutely. And there's a lot of reports at the moment. I know the world's pretty crazy right now, but so many people are seeing this stuff at the moment.
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David aka The Raven
Yeah.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
And managing to capture it as well. There's a lot of cool videos.
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David aka The Raven
Yeah.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
A lot of them look like, as you said, like meteorites, but they. They're moving in different ways that, you know, ways that meteorites shouldn't be moving, you know?
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David aka The Raven
Yeah. I saw one the other day where it curved upward and then made a turn and was like, this is not a meteor. It looks just like one until it goes up and then it turns and then it turns back again, starts snaking around the sky, and you're like, okay, this is something else. But you're right, there's been a huge uptick the last two weeks alone.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
Yeah, massively. Massively. Yeah. And when we think of where the world is right now, you know, there is crazy. I mean, I think some of this stuff might be technology that we've got that they don't share, but some of it just defies logic, you know? I don't know. I don't know what you guys are thinking on.
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David aka The Raven
I think they're getting ready for. If you look into the Bledsows, Ryan Bledsoe, Chris Bledsoe, these are UFO experiencers. They're. They're Christian, but I think they're being deceived by one entity they're in contact with in particular, calls itself the Lady. The Bledsows will say the lady has a bunch of different names. Mother Mary, Holy Spirit, Isis, Ishtar, Hathor, and a bunch of other ones. Yeah. And it's. It's. Which is, you know, ridiculous. But I do believe they're in communication with the real entity. And that entity told them that this is all the way back in 2012, that there was going to come a time where there's going to be war between Israel and Iran. And when that happens, it'll basically go all the way up to the brink of nuclear war, which will be stopped by orbs that are going to come out of the ocean. And they even gave a date. The star Regulus, or Regulus, I don't know how you pronounce it, is supposed to glow red and align with the Sphinx in Egypt. And that is actually a real. So. So, you know, hats off to them. I will say to get a prophecy back in 2012, and then for that star to align with the Sphinx. That's supposed to happen April. April 6th. And it just so happens we're in war right now with Iran on Israel's behalf, I would argue. And so, you know, pretty great conditions for that to happen. The. The alignment is going to happen and the war is happening and the orbs are upticking currently. So the idea is that. And you know, keep in mind, just for your audience, so they, so they understand this is a massive deception, in my opinion. We're gonna have something.
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Top Lobster
We're touch on that stuff today, huh?
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David aka The Raven
No, we're gonna have something present itself as a savior figure. And this is going to fool a lot of people, but we are experiencing this right now. So not only the orbs, but also these, these meteors and things like that. And I mean, I don't know, it's looking like we might find out what's today's date as we record here.
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Top Lobster
25th.
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David aka The Raven
The 25th. So we have about 11 days, 12 days. I think it's 31 days in March. 12 days until this alignment. When the alignment happens is that's going to precede this event shortly after that. Supposedly this isn't my prediction. Supposedly there's going to be, you know, this war is going to get real terrifying for a lot of people. Nuclear, you know, war is going to break out.
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Top Lobster
Also, keep in mind there's a. Not just a prediction, but I think there's actual scheduling of Donald Trump declassifying or at least addressing the nation on the UFO phenomenon. Or they're going to say aliens, but I don't think they're going to give us aliens. I think they're going to give us craft and technology, stuff like that. That should be in May, beginning of May. So all this stuff kind of lines up like, especially if we're gonna get these events happening and like strange things. And then you have, you have the government lined up to explain it to us and they're already teasing it. So we're constantly looking out for little feelers and clues of what's happening next.
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David aka The Raven
Yeah.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
Interesting times ahead, gentlemen, and we're going to find out very soon if that's the case.
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David aka The Raven
Yeah, yeah. If we do find out, have us back and we'll, we'll break it down for your audience so they don't fall into the big deception.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
Absolutely. You guys are welcome on here anytime. I absolutely love what you do. You're awesome. I've loved being on your show as well. So people need to go and check out Nephilim Death Death Squad. It's Fantastic. Where can people find you guys?
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David aka The Raven
You can find us anywhere. You find podcasts. We record practically every day. Sometimes twice, sometimes twice a day. If you go to the Patreon, I know everybody wants to push their Patreon, but if you go to the Patreon, you get live access to those shows. You can be in the live chat while the shows are going on. And that means that you get, you know, up to two shows five days a week. And what? Whereas, you know, we can't air them that fast. I'm not going to put out 10 episodes a week. Going to put out an episode daily on YouTube, an episode daily on RSS feed. So, you know, if you want to be up to date, if you want to be a part of a community. Patreon.com Nephilim Death Squad. There's a ton of content going on there. And then we have merch. All of the NDS merch is on top. Lopsted.com you can find everything there.
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Top Lobster
That's right. We're not wearing any of this. This was at Walmart shirt.
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David aka The Raven
Don't buy that. Do not sell the WWF shirt or the Hawaiian shirts. But yeah, ma', am, that's where you can find our stuff.
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Tommy (Podcast Host)
Awesome stuff, gentlemen. Thank you so much. I love what you guys do. I love you guys. Thank you. Keep up the great work. I'm thankful that you're on this journey and that you're. You're killing it. So keep it up, guys.
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David aka The Raven
Thank you, brother. It's always a pleasure talking to you.