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David (Nugget)
I quit in 2017 when I realized it's all corrupt to full time YouTube. Yeah and I did heaps of party drugs. Always thought psychedelics were like don't be not in control and then just the universe talking to me. And yeah now plenty of experiences with mushrooms and all that stuff.
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The Raven
But yeah I had my, I guess what you would call your heroic dose with mushrooms and it was manageable. You know a lot of people before you do it, you had all these stories that kind of you have these presuppositions what it's gonna be like. I was like, this is actually regular. Not regular. You know what I mean? But it was like. It was not the extreme he's trying to say.
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Top Lobster
He's built different.
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Spin Quest Promo Voice
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The Raven
It was. I had conversations with people who didn't know I was on mushrooms, so that. That's pretty good.
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Top Lobster
So you did, like, nine years of school. I know. Pharmaceuticals, being a pharmacist, that's, like, intensive, right?
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David (Nugget)
Five years. But yeah, I was always into, like, natural medicine and stuff as well. But, yeah. So quick backstory. I've been a conspiracy theorist for 25 years. It's an amazing time to be alive. Right?
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Lady Luck
Yeah.
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David (Nugget)
It is so much crazy about Australia that even I'm like, every day you find something new about. I might ask you guys about your thoughts on, like, resets and Tartaria, but America and Australia and the parallels. 1776, 1778. Like, it is just. There's so much overlap.
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The Raven
That's interesting.
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David (Nugget)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, but today when we start recording, I want to get into your story and just talk about everything you've learned over the journey of your podcast and get into all the juicy stuff.
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The Raven
Yeah, for sure. I'm excited, man.
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David (Nugget)
Cool, cool. And how do you like to be introduced? Just David and Top Lobster, or.
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The Raven
I feel like, yeah, you could do that. That's fine. We both have animal names because there's
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Top Lobster
something wrong with us, but they were given to us. Yeah, I guess. Topping Raven. Yeah. Squad. It's a little. I mean, I've already been Doc, so it doesn't matter. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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David (Nugget)
Oh, you have? Yeah, yeah. We cover a lot of pretty serious content on here. And when someone hears Top Lobster from my audience, they might be like, oh, I can't take these guys seriously.
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Top Lobster
But no, no, now you can call me. Well, I. I'll explain the name. It's. Yeah, it's got an interesting background, I guess.
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David (Nugget)
Awesome. Okay, let's get into it. 3, 2, 1. Oh, sorry, hardware issue. 3, 2, 1. Hi, guys. Thanks for tuning in to an episode of Nuggets News Super Special guests, and that is Nephilim Death Squad. So welcome to the show. David and Top. How are you guys doing?
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The Raven
Doing well, brother. Thanks for inviting us.
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Top Lobster
Hey, man. Thank you. And sorry. Sorry about my surname, but that's what we're gonna go by, so if anyone's offended.
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Spin Quest Promo Voice
Whatever, man.
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Top Lobster
We're gonna. We're rolling with that. It's nice to meet you.
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David (Nugget)
Well, for everyone that doesn't know you guys, maybe give us a bit of a background the nicknames, how you got the show going and you've been crushing it like you got on Sam. Tinfoil hats, Mount Crush More. So well done on that.
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The Raven
Yeah, well, thank you very much. I mean, as far as the, the names, mine's pretty easy. I actually go by the Raven, which is, I thought, good for marketing purposes, branding purposes, but my last name is Corbeau, which is just a derivative of Corvo, which is Italian in Spain, you know, that kind of area. And it just means raven, means crow raven, you know, corvid, which is just a species of blackbird. But I said, hey, I might as well use it because once you step into the sort of conspiracy arena, adding a little mystique doesn't hurt.
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David (Nugget)
Yeah. Nice.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, I was previously, before I was in the conspiracy arena, I was in the, like, political arena, social commentary kind of kind of place, and I was having a conversation about some taboo topics. Ended up getting doxed, so I decided I'll go by a nickname. And Jordan Peterson was big at the time. This was years and years ago. So the first chapter of his book is talking about the lobsters and how they stand up straight because they have a similar dopamine system as human beings. And every time they win a fight, they stand up straighter with their shoulders back and they. They'll create this posture. They're the dominant lobster, the top lobster. And I was from Brooklyn, so it's like a top lobster kind of thing. And that turned into racist clothing brand and turned into a. I don't want to like, curse on here, but a crap posting Twitter account that gets retweeted by Elon Musk and then that turns into, like, into the comedy sphere. Working for Louis J. Gomez, Skank Fest, Legion of Skanks. And then that turns into Christian Conspiracy.
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The Raven
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
Inside of a coffee shop slash fabrication studio, it's been a ride.
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The Raven
It's been a bizarre journey that you couldn't have plotted out if you tried.
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David (Nugget)
That's awesome. Well, I didn't know about lobster's dopamine system, so I've already learnt something today. My nickname was Nugget because I was short up until grade 12, didn't go through puberty till later on in life, so I was just short and nuggety and it's sort of stuck ever since.
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The Raven
That's. And now you've been. How long have you been doing this? Because we were just talking about that. We're like, nugget. That's an interesting. And now, like, you know, you're.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, we were searching the email. I was like, what should I search to find the email again? He says, nugget. I was like, are you kidding me?
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The Raven
And you're off and you're soaring now. So you're locked into nugget. But it's been a lifelong thing then.
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David (Nugget)
Yeah, it has, since grade seven. But let's get into all the juicy stuff. So, guys, what have you learned over your journey on the podcast from the angle of like, demons? And what is this evil force we're up against with some people want to talk about aliens? I've had David Ike on the show with his Reptilian theory. You've got this hybrid stuff going off, and obviously the mainstream are really starting to push the UFO disclosure narrative. So where are you guys sitting with your thoughts on all that?
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The Raven
So for me, it was. I was always kind of into the new age and the occult and conspiracies since I was really young and I had, I guess you could say some generational iniquity is how the Bible would put it. But there were seemed to be spirits attached to my. My. My bloodline. And so I grew up with these stories, I grew up with these experiences. And as soon as the Internet came about in any real meaningful way, you know, when, like YouTube, kind of the golden years of YouTube, like 2005, 2006, 2007, where it was the Wild west and it was a great place to be. I mean, the Internet was just a great place to be at that time. Still is. You know, we're in fantastic times. But that was. There was something different about it. And so I'm taking all my experiences and I'm trying to find other people who are having the same ones. And of course, this leads to the concept of demons, which, you know, is not immediately something that I'm sold on. Right. A lot of people talk about shadow integration or the daemon, or the idea that maybe the. The universe is reflecting things back to you or their aspects of the self is a multitude of explanations for these entities that I was comfortable with for a very long time and. But nevertheless, it leads to that sort of occult practices, demonology. And what that springboards into is the fact that you can kind of see the evidence for it all over the music industry, all over Hollywood. Right. We're talking about the symbolism. People like Isaac Weissep have made an entire career out of occult symbolism in pop culture. He does a fantastic job of that. And so it's rich and it's constantly giving, and that just becomes what is now I would call a lifelong journey. But it's not until I have my own encounters as a husband and as a father where I realize these things need to stop. They have to stop. And I am desperate and have no modality for stopping them. And so not raised religious, never really. Of course, in conspiracy, the Bible comes up revelation more popularly because of all of the things that seem to be prophecy being fulfilled at any given moment, but that's really about it. And I didn't have recourse. I couldn't make this thing stop. And my wife had seen it as well, and I had kept it to myself, and then my son had seen it and I had still kept it to myself. Because as a father, you don't want to. Certainly don't want to plant seeds of fear in your child. You want to be able to sleep at night and not have those intrusive moments where they're knocking on the door because they can't sleep. So I'm really doing my best to keep this under wraps. Nevertheless, they see it and it feels as though things are evolving so rapidly that I need to do something. I call out to Jesus Christ for the first time in my life and the entire phenomenon stops on a dime. And so I start to. It's a long journey, a very long journey, like I said, came from the new age and occult and all those things. But I start to look for other people who have had the experiences that I've had, very similarly to how I was doing when I was a young man. And that's the beginning of getting me all the way here. It keeps bearing fruit, it keeps making sense. And I have this tremendous worldview of nearly 20 years of conspiracy that you would think the Christian narrative would clash with. And certainly the Christian narrative, that is the Western reducive caricature of Christianity, of Christ, of the Bible, that does clash, but not what I was learning, not what I was learning. And it wasn't some big secret. It wasn't like there was some gnostic seeds at the bottom of the Bible that I had to. You just start to understand things in a way that is closer to scripture than what the average person is experiencing. And it all begins to make sense. So to cap that this show is, Is for me my journey in testing this thing, testing this metal over and over again publicly. And we're 650 episodes probably right now, and. And it keeps bearing fruit and it keeps getting stronger and making more and more sense. And so I'm. I'm continuing down this path.
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David (Nugget)
Yeah, I've got a heap of thoughts on that. But Lobster, any thoughts on the demon alien, what you think is at the top of the evil chain before I sort of expand on the Bible and that.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, I got some thoughts but I'm kind of curious of, I don't want you to lose your, your question there because like David just gave you 50.
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The Raven
I know I gave you. That's a, I got a real problem
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Top Lobster
if you talk about alien. Aliens are in the news every day now. So it's like we're not going to forget about. It's honestly it's, it's kind of exhausting to a degree.
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Spin Quest Announcer
Yeah.
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David (Nugget)
Well cool. Yeah, let's keep with the flow then. So I think I agree with you. After being in this field for so long at the bottom of the rabbit hole, it's like this, this Satanism and all these secret societies that are influencing running the world. And so we're already starting to see people go, well if this level of evil exists out there towards what they're doing to humanity and children, then the opposite must be true. And why is there such this huge attack on Christianity and all these things? So I, I think this, there's very something to that that more and more people are realizing. It's not the oh, you have to go to church and the corruption in like the Catholic Church or whatever, it's oh well, which sections of the Bible have they rewritten and why it must have been important to cover it up. And so when I get what you're saying, because when someone says I'm a Christian, well that can mean 30,000 different denominations or spins and crazy new modern churches and all this stuff. So I agree with you that yeah, deep down I think the spiritual war we're in is really on like morality and Christianity brings back a lot of that morality and just good principles to people and that's what Satanism is trying to destroy. Right. That's kind of how I view it. But what, what are your guys thoughts on, on all of that?
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Top Lobster
So as far as like the Christianity thing, we, we come at this from a, a slightly different standpoint. And it's not like we're not your orthodox Christians and not, not meaning like the orthodox Church, but like the regular Christian that you'll meet and encounter. Oftentimes when Christians that are in the church meet us, they're off put and we've already been kind of like shunned and because listen, in reality David was a, you were a welder and a metal fabricator. I used to work on the tracks and I used to drive an 18 wheeler for a living. So like working on the railroad, you know, we're just blue collar dudes. So I'm going to talk how I'm going to talk and I'm going to say what I'm going to say. And usually when I say stuff, I just say exactly what I mean. And people don't like that. They want to, you know, I guess be fluffed a little bit. And I'm not here to cradle you. So we, we come at it from a slightly different perspective. But like upon further review of the Bible itself and like rereading this, I'm like, oh no, no. Like all this, this fluffed up worldview that we're generally presented as like, of what Christians are and how they're supposed to act is not how people acted throughout the Bible. So coming to terms with that has been a little bit easier. Obviously cleaning up a lot of the things that I still need to do have been important. But understanding that like, okay, no, no, no, you're being genuine, you're being yourself, you're searching for these answers and let everything else fall by the side and fall forward may after that. So that's, that's like been our journey in a way.
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Spin Quest Announcer
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
And we also have a proclivity to look into like this. We are like these dark places that other people don't really want to. I mean, I guess the common Christian wouldn't look at.
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The Raven
Exactly. The common Christian wouldn't look at it. And the, the problem is whether you're into the new age or you're into the occult or any of these things, for very many people it's because they had an experience. And even though I believe that the Bible has the answers and Jesus Christ is the truth, the modern Christian is not armed for the reality of the spiritual warfare that we're engaged in. So someone will have an experience and they might end up going to Wiccan or they might end up going towards the occult. But because there are answers that are seemingly readily available and the community of Christianity, the people that are just going to the church on Sundays and going through the motions, they're so detached for the most part from anything like that. And that was very much my experience is you have something strange and it drives you to seek answers. And when you look over to modern Christians, you go, there's no way. And in very many ways you would be correct. There's no way they would have these answers.
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Lady Luck
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David (Nugget)
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The Raven
To be perfectly honest, the element that keyed in and changed the whole worldview for me was the concept of the Nephilim. And I don't obviously that's the show's namesake.
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Top Lobster
We didn't even really talk about it that much anymore because it's, you know,
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The Raven
we beat it to death in the first hundred episodes or whatever it was. But this idea that there's extra canonical texts. Right. Some have been removed. People for the most part seem to understand that the in Ethiopia, their Bible still contains, you know, the book of Enoch. And Enoch is a strange one because the first one seems to be just an elaboration on elements of the Bible. And then two and three depart in a really crazy way. And so you have to kind of treat these things as interesting. But don't. They're not salvation issues, so don't hang your faith on them. You know, Enoch3 goes on to say that Enoch became the angel Metatron, I believe. Which is.
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Spin Quest Promo Voice
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
And the giants were like 400ft tall.
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The Raven
And which may be, you know, people go on and on. They say that pink Himalayan salt is actually the petrified remains of giants. And it's a lot of fun. I've stopped eating Pink, dude, the Devil's tree. The Devil's tree is a crazy one, you know, so there's a lot of stuff that point to not just megalithic structures, but megalithic beings potentially. And. And I'm a big fan of it. I don't discard it, but it's something that I don't hang my faith on. But this idea in Enoch that the disembodied spirits of these Nephilim, when, you know, most of them died in the flood, their spirits, they don't ascend. And we're going to get into this idea, by the way.
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Top Lobster
Let's explain what a Nephilim is. A product of a fallen angel and a human woman. So Biblically, Genesis 6 is saying that the fallen angels saw the human woman, they saw that they were good, and they procreated with them and they begot
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The Raven
the Nephilim, which is not actually something that the church is unified on. A lot of people will give pushback and they'll say, it's not the sons of God, it's the sons of Seth.
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Top Lobster
And the translation, I have like a little. This is my Benihana sign, but it says Beneha Elohim right here. It's a. That means sons of God. That's the Hebrew translation. And it comes up in Genesis 6. And I believe it's referring to the sons of God being angels, these Elohim, angelic beings. Other people will say, no, no, they're the sons of a man named Seth, who's a descendant of Adam. But elsewhere throughout the Bible, the Beneha Elohim is referred specifically as these heavenly entities that are in the presence of God. If you read the book of Job, when Job is going to be tempted, God is chilling with the B' Neha Elohim. And Satan approaches. He walks up and he says, yo, could I tempt this guy? And then the story goes on. So God's not hanging out with human men and delegating and, you know, talking about what he's gonna do next. He's. He's hanging out with the angels.
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The Raven
And in fact, I think the Dead Sea Scrolls do a good job of, because they're. That translation is specifically the sons of God, right? And so that's the oldest one that we have right now. And that's also where you get the Book of Enoch, which is fascinating. Cause in the beginning of it, it talks about how this is for the fig tree generation. And that is prophecy from Revelation, you know, end of times prophecy. So this idea that, you know, a series of Scrolls were discovered. I think it was like 47 or 48. Very.
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Top Lobster
Among other things. Yeah.
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The Raven
Very interesting time.
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Top Lobster
The CIA, Roswell comes about shortly after Operation Paperclip.
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The Raven
It's like everything just kicks off in
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Top Lobster
the state of Israel.
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David (Nugget)
Yeah, I've read a lot about that. I watched the docubrey how they might have even been forged, the Dead Sea Scrolls and stuff.
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The Raven
But there's a. I mean it is suspicious. It's a suspicious time.
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David (Nugget)
Yeah. But one thing I do, I'm really on board with like the science background is the offspring being giants and we see like a liger with a lion and a tiger. Right. And so I, I really like this theory that if we were genetically tweaked or a hybrid or whatever, and then we have the same number of chromosomes and then humans second and third chromosome has been fused. Like there's all this kind of scientific evidence to back up this biblical myth. But I still kind of wonder like, what is a fallen angel and isn't it isn't in physical form and are they actually having sex or is this referring to like genetic or scientific impregnation? Do you know what I mean? Like, any thoughts on all that?
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Top Lobster
That I'd say yes.
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The Raven
Yes.
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Spin Quest Promo Voice
And.
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The Raven
Yeah, yes.
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Top Lobster
And that's. See, now you just opened up an entire rabbit hole. But you want to. Can I just tell them about the science part of it? Because I think he'd like this part. So in the Bible there is a nimrod. And Nimrod's a mighty hunter. And people speculate that Nimrod was a giant. He was a huge dude. And they would call him Nephilim, but that's not the correct term. He. The correct term is Gibbo, and it says specifically he became Gibborim. Now in, in the book of Enoch, I think it's like Enoch 17 or. No, no, sorry, Enoch 7, chapter seven. It talks about when the watchers were taking the wives of men, what they taught these human women as they like, so there was a relationship, meaning, like they took them as wives, meaning there's like a covenant there. So whether we're talking about sex, I don't. Maybe.
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The Raven
But there's like a dowry.
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Top Lobster
There's a dowry, there's an exchange of technology or knowledge to the fathers of those daughters in order to get them. So there's a trade off which by
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The Raven
the way is consistent through most mythologies. Right. There is like this God that imparts various technologies or teachings, whether it's agriculture
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Top Lobster
or metallurgy or this thing like, you know, like what? What the hell?
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The Raven
Yeah. Or if it's recovering the crashed craft of Roswell and getting new technology, there is seemingly an exchange.
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Top Lobster
They call that. Sometimes they call it a gifting ground.
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The Raven
Oh, that's interesting.
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Top Lobster
Right? Like the crashed. The crashed UFO sites. People will go there and they're called, like, gifting grounds. And you can go. And they pick up, like, weird metals and stuff. But anyway, they teach the woman a number of things, like makeup. They teach the men, you know, metallurgy. And they mention that they teach them the cutting of roots. And we get this from Sean from Kingdom in Context, who's great.
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The Raven
He's fantastic.
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David (Nugget)
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
So the cutting of roots is an interesting one because now we're dabbling in pharmacia. Like, that's. That's your lane. So one of the chemicals in Miracle Gro is Gibberellin. And Gibberellin actually, like, it retards this. It retards a hormone in the plant, so that way it can have indeterminate growth. And Nimrod became gibbourine. So it leads you to think. I was like, okay, so they taught them everything about cutting of roots. Was there some sort of genetic manipulation where they were manipulating something in human beings to let them continue to grow? And then you get these giants like that.
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The Raven
Yeah. It results in stem and shoot elongation.
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Spin Quest Announcer
Yeah.
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The Raven
And I do believe that it is. If you were to extract it from anywhere, it would be the root system of a plant. Gibberellin is commonly used right now in miracle growth. So, I mean, there's these things that are little hints. It feels like. And once again, this is not something that, like, you're to hang your faith or. It's not a salvation issue. It's none of these things. But it feels like. I mean, that's incredibly rich, this idea. And it's in a text that I. I don't want to disparage, you know, the. The church or the people that are going through it, but it's no secret. There are folks that are moving through that system like zombies. They show up on Sunday and they go through the motions and they leave it there, and they go back to their lives for remaining six days. And then, of course, all of the corruption that exists in any of the church systems, because we are men and we're fallible. So anything that we create is going to have rot in it because we're flawed. But this thing, it's been reduced and it's been made a mockery of, especially here in the West.
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Top Lobster
It's probably the most important part, because the Bible's describing a battle and so describing a battle between the seed of man and the seed of something else. Seed of Satan.
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The Raven
The seed of this, that's the first prophecy in Genesis is that the seed of the woman will crush the head of the serpent. And then that goes on and on. And you know, all of the Old Testament points, that's one of the things that gets me is there is this big Gnosticism movement towards the idea of the demiurge. And Jesus Christ becomes debased in that way because now he's open to interpretation. The Bible is very clear. Who do you say Christ is? And Christ is the son of the living God who came and died for our sins. And God, you know, resurrected him from the dead and he ascended all of these things. That's, that's who this character is. This guy is. Jesus Christ is still prevalent in, in a lot of other teachings. Right. If you go to the alien thing, he is Pleadian. If you go to the, the, the, the Gnostics or the New Agers, he is an ascended master who's reached a state of enlightenment that you too can reach. And it's like there is similar within Islam. Yes, yes. Where he's just a prophet. Yeah, he's there, but he's just a prophet. And even in the Bible it warns in John that you know, if any, even an angel should come to you and preach any other gospel that is not this, then you're being deceived. Meaning like, yeah, an angel can come and they will tweak it because Christ is such a central figure and such an important thing. Here we are 2000 years later, haven't shaken him off. Now it's like he's getting co opted and he's getting changed ever so slightly. But if you read the Old Testament, it's a direct through line. This God of the Old Testament that's supposed to be the demiurge that's imprisoning us here is constantly pointing over like 300 times in all this different prophecy to Jesus Christ. It's, it's incredibly consistent from, I mean like I said, the very first prophecy in Genesis is pointing to the coming of Christ. You can't get even to the next book in Exodus without having shadows of Christ. The archetype of what's going to come all over Exodus, all over Genesis, it's happening constantly. But I think we just get into. What I found Alex, is it's almost like, it's almost disappointing. It's like, wow, in some Ways this is actually very simple. And I never thought that, dude, I never thought that.
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Top Lobster
What's like, super disappointing is that, like, you might say, all right, the Nephilim are interesting, but how does it pertain to right now? Well, I don't know. Matt Gaetz is saying that he's spoken to some, you know, government suits or, you know, army dudes that are. They're coming in their rank and file and they're telling him, yeah, there's a breeding program happening. And I'm telling you that, you know, we're reading an old book and it says, yeah, there's a breeding program happening.
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The Raven
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
And I don't know exactly how it's happening, but we've spoken to a number of different people. As a matter of fact, shout out to Nathaniel Gillis, who was just on Danny Jones.
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David (Nugget)
Yeah, I've had him on too. Yeah.
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The Raven
Yeah, Nathaniel's fantastic.
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Top Lobster
Nathaniel will tell you about the phenomenon. And I mean, this is like physical, spiritual, however you want to. However you want to imagine it. But one of the techniques that they'd use is like maybe even like necromancy or this like spiritual implantation, impregnation into the woman. So if you're asking, did these guys bone down these girls, I don't know, man.
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The Raven
Maybe it's.
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Top Lobster
Maybe, but it seems like there's a lot of ways to skin this cat. Yeah, the government does this with MK Ultra techniques. You use sra, Satanic ritual abuse to do the same thing. The telepathy tapes, for instance, seem like they're getting at the same thing.
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The Raven
Yeah, that's actually one of our. I think that's probably what landed us on Mount Krushmore, was we did a breakdown of the telepathy tapes and how actually nefarious it is because what it amounts to, I think, is a free range version of the MK Ultra program where in order to induce a state of dissociation.
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Top Lobster
Right, Disassociation.
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The Raven
I always go back and forth, I found it both ways. Disassociation and dissociation.
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Top Lobster
He's a doctor. He probably.
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The Raven
Which one is it, do you know?
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David (Nugget)
I think it can be both. Disassociate or dissociate. Yeah.
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The Raven
Okay, well, everybody knows what we mean. So in order to create that state, because we're used to MK ULTRA with. And by the way, as we sit here today, the first hearing since 1977 just took place on MK Ultra led by Anna Paulina Luna. Very sketchy woman in my estimation. But here we are. It's really strange because you said earlier at the top of the show, or maybe it was off air of like what an incredible time it is to be doing this. And it's like it's constant, man, every day. It's just a never ending stream of alien disclosure and MK Ultra disclosure.
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Top Lobster
And yeah, that's why he's like, do you want to talk about that? I'm like, not really talking about everything, dude.
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The Raven
We talk about it every day, like seven episodes a week. But we're used to the idea of Clockwork Orange where you strap them in a chair and you peel their eyelids open and you subject them to traumatizing, you know, images and you dose them with psychedelics and everything is to, to withdraw away from this stimuli, right. And gain access. I think what I've perceived is gain access illegally to these spiritual realms. And this is coming from somebody who's done a fair bit of psychedelics. I think I understand a little bit more now. And, and now that it's viable, it works, it yields a bunch of things, right? Programmable personalities that emerge, states of dissociation or disassociation that allow the individual to remote view or astral project or this and that. There's so many fruits, you could say fruits that have been bore from this kind of technology. You could call it a technology of teaching. Now it's in the free range stage. So we are actively dosing ourselves, we are actively traumatizing ourselves on a daily basis with these little black scrying boxes that we have, scrying mirrors. And I think that I'm going to use. People have to read between the lines. I don't want to get you dinged for the language here, but there is a medical intervention that results in autism and things of that nature. And that is the ultimate disassociation. These individuals cannot even engage with their physical bodies.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, this, this show as it was like really picking up one of my friends was like, you've got to watch it. This is a. It's crazy. It's right up your lane. And he, he Was right, but like for the wrong angles. He just thought that we'd find it interesting. But immediately these kids start talking about like the, the state of disassociation that they're. They're having every day. And then they talk about things like spelling and they. And I think it's called like assisted. I forget exactly the term. But like the mother or caretaker will put like an arm or a hand, even a finger on the kid just so that they can understand where their body is in. In comparison to where their spirit is.
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The Raven
Or it's like the physical sensation. Like it's. It's like an anchor point. Right. Like here's your. It's almost what they're doing is like here's your body, kiddo.
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Top Lobster
Yeah. And they're like. From what? From what they're explaining. These children that are sentient, that are in their body but don't have control of it, are almost like pulled away from it. Have you ever seen Venom? No.
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The Raven
The spider man where Dr. Strange wax him and the little spirit comes out that's like that.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was, I was thinking about Spider Man 3 or whatever where he hits the. The poles and the frequency makes the Venom come off of. Oh yeah, yeah, it feels like that. But yeah, very much like out. An out of body experience is what these kids are having. So in the physical they're throwing tantrums, they're wearing diapers, they're pooping, but mentally they're actually there. And this, this podcast series goes through this idea of these kids having telepathy and being able to communicate with their parents. And it's actually very interesting.
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David (Nugget)
But I watched it. I don't know, you guys would. I had a European doctor on who's reversing autism. You guys should chat to him.
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The Raven
Reversing autism.
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Top Lobster
That sounds like a curse.
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The Raven
Yeah, that's incredible.
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David (Nugget)
So he was getting. Because again, I'm very much into what you've just described there. And I watched the telepathy tapes, but he was getting into like pulling all the heavy metals out of the brain.
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The Raven
Yeah.
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David (Nugget)
And he also had had a theory that these people could be stuck in a trip. And what he found was that they had high levels of serotonin and DMT that their body couldn't break down. And so once you give the enzymes to break that down. Some of these people were adults that were non verbal that are now normal functioning.
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The Raven
Oh my God.
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David (Nugget)
That's incredible. Yeah, I'll tee you guys up with Dr. Christian Bogner if you want. But yeah, it's Kind of another good segue into. Do you view things now like meditation or breath work or psychedelics as like bad and evil? Because they're not in the Bible. Or, you know, some people say, well, maybe Jesus did eat mushrooms or like, where are you at with this other stuff? That some, maybe traditional Christians would say, oh, that's, that's woo. That's witchcraft. You can't have plant medicines or anything like that.
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Top Lobster
So for me, start with meditation.
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The Raven
Go ahead.
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Top Lobster
Meditation is an interesting one. David meditated, but in the talking about in the Bible. Yeah, yeah. Biblically, not, not him. He doesn't, he doesn't shut up.
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The Raven
Can't quiet my mind.
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Top Lobster
David meditated, but when he did, he said salah. It's like, think on, think on that. Which means that he still has an aim. And I think that's, you know, when you're talking about aim, we're talking about sin. And when you're not aimed at a thing, you're sinning. So specifically for me, I'm sinning if I'm not aimed at God. Now if I meditate and they say, clear your mind, clear your body, clear your soul, so that you're an empty vessel. Even Bob Lazar touches on this, on the Joe Rogan experience, where he goes, yeah, they just see us as containers.
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The Raven
Yeah. Which I would agree with.
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Top Lobster
And he's correct. Like people are containers where we're meant to be filled up and poured out. Like, like we're just instruments of worship, whether it be to God or whether it be to, who knows, this sign over here, whatever it is, you worship something.
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The Raven
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
So when we're meditating, I would just be like, be careful emptying yourself out and not being aware what is filling that. Because you're going to be filled with something.
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The Raven
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
So whatever you call in or whatever is around, if you're, I believe in localities as well, like that leads into the psychedelic issue. But yeah, if you're emptying yourself out, I would be aware what you invite to fill you. I would ask God or the Holy Spirit to fill me rather than another entity or idea or presence, because
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The Raven
that's
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Top Lobster
the realm we live in, I believe. I think we live like the upside down. You know, Stranger things kind of nails it. There's something happening on the under tapestry of this carpet that can interact with us in a spiritual way and where we don't perceive it.
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Top Lobster
Unless you take drugs, dmt, psychedelics, where you can peel back that veil. But now we're talking about issues of legality. Now you stepping into a Realm that you don't belong in and know nothing about. And you're just going to go ahead and interact with it. You're swimming with sharks.
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The Raven
Yeah, well that's. And people will accuse Christians of being like fear based. And it's like I, I just understand it now as if you want to use a New age principle, this idea of like the fractal nature of reality, or even like as above, so below. Like we have laws and systems and inhabitants in this physical realm. There are laws and systems and inhabitants in that spiritual realm. And many of them are, if you don't want to use the term demon because people get all wrapped up in that, you could say, speak more to their nature, which is parasitic. These things are parasitic. They will influence and whisper to you things that will put you in a state of depression, anxiety, fear, anger, and they will feed off that. Everybody's familiar with the concept of like louch, as Robert Monroe puts it. So that's a huge issue right there. And I think that at any given moment we're giving consent, legal consent, access to ourselves, to things that we can't even perceive. I think when Top says we're swimming with sharks, in very many ways that's true. We cannot perceive it. We're in the ocean, we're treading water, and around us is all manner of life. But some of these things don't have your best interest. So as far as these meditative processes and everything, I don't think it's inherently bad. There seems to be a function that people can access these realms. But fasting, like fasting, is one that will tune you into the, the supernatural realm, the spiritual realm, much more so than in a different state. We have a guest that comes on the show, Seth Kickliter. He wrote a book. It's a lengthy one. I don't think we have it in here. So you have to forgive me for not remembering the title of it. But a lot of it is based off realm shenanigans, spirit realm shenanigans. And a lot of it is based off of analyzing the writings of Robert Monroe and coming to a conclusion that these entities that are outside of our physical realm can manufacture entire experiences for us. So they do this regularly, can do this regularly in the dream state, but in psychedelic induced states or even remote viewing or astral projection. Many of these experiences real. You're going through something, you're experiencing something, you're perceiving something. But almost like people think that this is a simulation, right? Simulation theory. In that way you can superimpose that idea over your experiences in those realms. In that there's a bandwidth thing, there's a. There's a. They're rendering and generating potentially. And he makes a really, really good case for this.
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Top Lobster
And you're. You're actually feeding it. The story you told at the top where you were saying that your wife is having this experience and your kid is now seeing this thing.
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The Raven
I was feeding it.
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Top Lobster
He was feeding. He was going through like a time in his life where he's experiencing a lot of rage, rage, bottling stuff down. And it was. It got to the point where something actually manifested and he was like, yo, this thing was rage in body.
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The Raven
Oh, yeah, yeah. That was the impression which I think counts for a lot when you have these experiences. The impression that you get this thing was, you know, rage incarnate. And it wasn't too pumped to see him. So when my wife described the same thing and then my son described the same thing, this was, you know, it was a problem.
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Top Lobster
So you fed you in. In a sense, like you're feeding a thing to a point where it has the power to manifest.
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The Raven
Yeah.
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Top Lobster
In whether I don't like.
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David (Nugget)
Yeah, this is a good segue into parasitism, which you already touched on. Right. And like we spoke about morality and Satanists running the world. One thing that I try and frame it, and I want to see if you guys kind of agree with all this, is these spirits or entities, whatever we want to call them, if someone maybe has an affinity for alcohol, maybe it's an alcoholic spirit or sex or whatever it is. So the more that they can degrade society with like filth and get everyone doing this, it's the low level Satanism that the public and people say, oh, they're an NPC or whatever. But I don't believe that people don't have souls. I tend to think that we're all victims of programming and not knowing the truth.
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David (Nugget)
But do you guys. Where are you at with the whole parasitism, like feeding different addictions and all the way through to possession?
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The Raven
I mean, I think that even the idea of parasites, it comes up so often in demonic encounters.
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Top Lobster
You want to tell them the story about Marzinski, because that's an interesting.
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The Raven
Have you ever talked to Jerry Marzinski?
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David (Nugget)
No.
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The Raven
Okay. You should. You'd love him. So
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The Raven
Dr. Jerry Marzinski is a clinical psychologist. He's retired now, I believe, an author, and he worked specifically with schizophrenic patients for, like, 35 years. And he worked with them in a hospital setting until that hospital got shut down, and then he moved over to a prison setting. Now, in the hospital setting, there's all these rules and regulations. You cannot feed into their delusions, stick to the book because, you know, malpractice, all these different things. But in the prison setting, they kind of don't care. Eventually, Marzinski comes to the conclusion that these things that the industry is labeling auditory and visual hallucinations, do not behave like hallucinations. Hallucinations would be random to a great extent, of course. They would be flavored by the individual's experiences and belief systems. But he discerned, I believe, up to 23 reliable patterns that these things adhere to, which is not behaved like a hallucination would. And so he started to suspect that these things were external to the individual and not just a, you know, a result of some sort of, you know, chemical imbalance in the brain or what have you. And he began to advise these patients that they treat them as if they're external, which is phenomenal because the industry takes away that agency. Right. It says there's something wrong with you. The only way you're going to fix this is by the pills that don't have a great track record at all.
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Top Lobster
Well, it's kind of what you were talking about, this idea of the npc. When we're talking about pills, we're dealing with a society of people that have this blanketed serotonin level.
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The Raven
Yeah, they're muted.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, everybody's muted. And even if you're not on pills, like, I. I don't know, I read some studies where it's like, people that take pills, they piss in the water, the drinking water comes back into the tap, and like, to some level, we're all participated in this muted, like, ringing of what is, what should be society.
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The Raven
Yeah, yeah.
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David (Nugget)
And burnt out of dopamine circuits, and people can't concentrate or think critically even if they're not on any medication. Right.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, yeah.
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The Raven
So, you know, the patients start having success in dealing with these things as if they're external and some of them are willing to have conversations with them. One of the things that he discovers is that the drug use. So almost every schizophrenic, you know, individual that you're going to come in contact with has a history of like childhood trauma, which I think is it swings the door open and it allows this thing that I described as generational iniquity to take place. This thing has legal rights over your bloodline because of this great sin. Now in the Bible it says Jesus Christ has paid the debt. The blood of Jesus Christ has paid that debt. Because this is all legal. It's all a legal exchange.
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Top Lobster
It's funny, right? There's like science articles now saying like, oh, it seems that mothers can pass down, you know, certain traits from up to like seven generations.
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The Raven
From trauma. From trauma.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, it says that in the Bible. But you know, congrats on figuring out,
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The Raven
I guess, which is so often the case. But this, this debt has already been paid. A lot of people aren't aware of that. They don't understand that legal aspect.
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David (Nugget)
Right.
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The Raven
We're talking about the spiritual realm. There is a lot of legality going on here and sacrifices which we see this occult side doing all the time. The purer the sacrifice, the more effective it is at transmuting reality. This, the purest one, has happened already and the debt has been paid to wipe the slate clean for any of these iniquities or accesses that have been given over to the spiritual realm over us.
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Top Lobster
But even that idea. Sorry to interrupt. Is very interesting because from a Christian standpoint, people wouldn't want to even discuss the death of Jesus Christ as this. They wouldn't want to discuss the similarities of that sort of sacrifice to what we'd see like maybe at an Epstein island.
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The Raven
Yeah, yeah. They don't have a stranglehold on those operations. They cannot create anything. They only invert God's laws and his own building blocks to this realm.
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Top Lobster
It seems like that's how it works.
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The Raven
That's how it works. And the best one already happened. And the thing that it was trying to buy was us. Everybody's sacrificing things. These Satanists are sacrificing things. These occultists are sacrificing things to buy
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Top Lobster
rapper that had a closet full of dead chickens.
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The Raven
Oh, I forget what her name was. But yeah, some, some female rapper or R and B artist who's showing off her, her chicken killing closet. There's, it's actually fully out on display now. So many people in the hip hop Industry in particular are showing you that they participate in. In Santeria or Santa Muerte. And they're sacrificing animals to this deity for wealth and that deity for romantic success. And they're doing it like it's MTV Cribs. Like they're just showing you on the Internet. It's crazy as hell.
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David (Nugget)
I actually saw that clip, if it's the same one that you just described. I saw that it was gross in a random documentary I was watching. Shed like blood and all that in the corner of her bathroom and said she hadn't cleaned in years or something. Yeah, there's a crazy synchronicity for you guys.
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The Raven
Yeah, that's. That's. That's how it goes, man. So these people are doing that to do what? To buy things. This is. This is a currency. This sacrifice is a currency. The. The purer the sacrifice, the virgin sacrifice, the. The unblemished lamb sacrifice, whatever it is, the purer it is, the more that it buys. And people don't want to see that. Yeah, you're right. Top. The average Christian doesn't want to say it's uncomfortable, cuz that's effectively what happened. But what was bought was us, so that we could have salvation, so we don't perish. So, anywho, anyway, moving on. So going back to this Marczinski story, they say a number of things to him. And like I said, the drug usage, beyond the childhood trauma, the drug uses was another one. He said certain drugs kick that spiritual door open. Some put a doorstopper in. One in particular is methamphetamine. Said it was so hard to close that door after stopping the usage of methamphetamine. And that door being, I think, the way that Marzinski described it, we all have this. We all have these intrusive thoughts that feel uncharacteristic of our own nature or our own thinking processes.
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Top Lobster
You see an old lady, you're like, I wonder if I should punch her.
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The Raven
I wonder if I should punch her downstairs. And you don't do it. But you have other ideas too, right? Like sometimes ideas pass across your awareness and you almost interact with them. Right. So there is the thinker, the thing that analyzes the ideas, but then there is the idea that almost feels alive, like it landed in your lap, like you didn't think about it.
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Top Lobster
The muse.
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The Raven
The muse is a great example over and over again. I mean, we have no shortage of people in the industries. You name it. That's why I said the industries. Any of the arts who are channeling to get their ideas. So it seems that ideas in some great way come from something external to the individual.
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Top Lobster
David Ike, for instance, channel. I think he channeled some of his books.
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The Raven
Well, I mean, if you look at his. I think it's his own biography. He says that he had what he thought was a stroke at first, and he channeled the disembodied spirits of ancient Atlantean masters.
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Lady Luck
Right.
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The Raven
Which, you know, is fantastic. Yeah. And I don't think that. I don't think that he is lying. I don't think David Icke is lying. It's just oftentimes when a spirit comes to us and it shows us anything, it's so profound, dude. It's so unbelievable that this is even happening that we mistake that for the truth. And I think just.
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David (Nugget)
Yeah, just to jump in with the. He said that you mentioned the methamphetamine leaving the door open. So I, I broke my back playing Aussie rules football and ended up getting addicted to oxycontin.
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The Raven
Okay.
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David (Nugget)
Opioids. And I likened it. Once I got off them and got clean and stuff, I likened it to being possessed. It's like, it's like, it's just so hard to describe to people. And so when people see other addicts like doing these things that they'll never normally do. Right. Harming family members. Yeah, blah, blah, blah. Then I think we have to start thinking like it. And again, I think we know how magical this realm is in pharmacopoeia. And I think it's so much more advanced than. It's just, oh, it's a tablet that's kind of hijacking your brain a little bit. So that's. Yeah, I really think there's a thread to pull on there.
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The Raven
I mean, Tucker said it, right. We've been stripped of our understanding of the spiritual realm. We live in this materialistic realm. And we've tossed out the idea of the spiritual realm much to our detriment.
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Top Lobster
I also don't want to strip it of the. This materialistic part because, you know, as a pharmacist, there is a chemical component to these. These things. And that chemical component makes us susceptible to the spiritual things. So right now, as a, as a. I guess as a race, a human race, we're dealing with them like two separate things. Like, oh, there's a spiritual realm and some people are very woo woo, you know, maybe they'll put crystals in their butt and go do ayahuasca in the forest. And then you have guys that are very serious and they're like, no, no, there is a chemical scientific explanation. I'm like, these things interact with each other. And the big trick is that we don't want to put them together or look at them on the same table.
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The Raven
That's like when you have the alien disclosure thing and they're talking about reverse engineered technology and zero point this and that. And I'm like, what are the nature of the entities?
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The Raven
What do they want? You know? But I think that over and over again in our research, it appears that our brains are a sort of frequency receiver. And it's a highly advanced form of frequency receiving that it does. And it's altered. Its frequency dial is changed by chemicals. So various chemicals will alter the waves or the frequencies that we can perceive. And these entities over and over again, seem to exist in frequency. It actually goes back to the telepathy tapes thing, which, by the way, one more little thing on the Marzinski note. He did have a patient who said, the voices want me to let you know that they said, you have no right to interfere with their way of life over and over again. Their way of life seems to be parasitic. And they operate best when you don't perceive them as external. When you think they are you. When you identify with the thoughts, they operate the best. As soon as you start to treat them as if they're not your own thoughts.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, it's like, I caught you, like you shine a light on this and you're like, wait a second.
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The Raven
They're actually very weak. Right? So once again, Christianity is in its form that I've come to understand. It is not fear based. We don't have anything to fear if we're with God. These other things are parasitic worms, just to use the, you know, the analogy for real life parasites. Biological parasites. They can be dealt with. There's nothing to fear. I don't walk around in my everyday life with fear. People will hear this worldview and go, oh my God, you must be so scared. Christians. I'm not scared of shit ever, dude. Like literally never. I do not. I don't issue black pills. There's no doomer coming from our show at all. It doesn't exist whatsoever. So I just want to lay that out. But going back to the telepathy tapes.
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Top Lobster
Wait a second. I think. Sorry, you were trying to say something.
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David (Nugget)
I was gonna say, the way you frame that then is just know thyself, right? And all this effort to deceive us about who we are and this perception on our reality. People are lost and they don't know themselves. And so when they don't know if that voice is internal or external, that's really. I haven't heard anyone frame like that before.
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The Raven
But it's so sticky. It's, it's actually very weak.
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Top Lobster
There's even like more layers to that because the, no, no, thyself thing is a, it's a, it's an interesting starting point, but in a way, like, who are, who are any of us? We're like one of a billion people just passing through this thing. And how, however long this world's been going on and if we're lucky we get 120 years. That's pretty much like the max of what we're gonna do. What the hell could we know? So like I said, we're containers. I agree. Bob Lazar, I'm not going to be discouraged by what you're saying here, but it's like, well, what am I filling myself up with? Yeah, I can fill myself up with something that's going to deceive me and lie to me or maybe give me these short term, you know, gains. Or I could fill myself up with the thing that I think is the absolute truth. And whatever that is to you, I, I know what it is to me. So if I know.
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The Raven
God, what's going on, everyone?
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Top Lobster
Then I have a clear direction. It's like, it's like my compass. So I cannot stray too far from whichever way I'm headed. So knowing myself is good. But a lot of people that know themselves, like we were just talking like talking about one of our friends. They're like, yeah, the world is like objective and I'm spinning up. There's no up, there's no down. I was like, he knows himself, right? No, no, no. There has to be a clear objective. We have to know what is up, what is down, which way we're headed and, and then, and then we could start to trust ourselves but always have that connection to where we're going.
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The Raven
Yeah, you have to be oriented towards, towards the truth. And I think that's like when the Bible says Jesus Christ is the way. The truth and the life and the narrow. The path is narrow. Like, yeah, dude, yeah. People. People have gotten up into this thing where like truth. If you look at, let's say, culturally speaking, from like the left, truth becomes, you know, subjective and. And it's debased. And there's multiple truths all at once. Like, no, no, there's not. There actually is one. And this game that we seem to be existing in is one where these gigantic systems will give you a lot of truth, dude. Like, there's a lot of truth in Wiccan. There's a lot of truth in paganism. There's a lot of truth in the occult. There's a lot of truth in all these things.
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Top Lobster
There's a lot of truth in the telepathy tapes. Like the.
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The Raven
But they use that delivery vehicle of all this truth to Trojan horse you into. Into one lie, one fundamental lie that'll exist in there and then that lie will change. But it's usually, you know, pretty similar. Like I said, the one that I've really zeroed in on is like this redefining of Christ that happens pretty consistently.
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Top Lobster
I bet you he doesn't know this. But what. What do you think the main point of the telepathy tapes was like, at. At the very end of it? What. What was the focus from Kai Dickens?
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David (Nugget)
I think they were trying to frame like that we need to like kind of towards humans can be more. Or that we need to upgrade or unlock more superpowers kind of thing.
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Top Lobster
We need to ascend. Right? We all need to like, so they. They framed the autism that these kids were suffering through through like what seems like MK Ultra techniques, free range MK Ultra techniques as a gift. When I'm listening to it, I said this seems a little bit like a curse, but the main. Sorry.
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The Raven
Well, yeah, this ascend thing, right? You can be as God. It's the same. It's the same lie that the serpent sells in the garden, you know, that we can ascend and we can be as gods, effectively one.
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Top Lobster
So, yeah, I picked up my thought where I wanted to go here. But an interesting tidbit there that's like not many people know. I think episode six of that season one, she had Dr. Joel and Franco.
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The Raven
Oh, is Joe and Franco. Joe and Franco.
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Top Lobster
Joe and Franco. And he was the.
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The Raven
He's a pastor.
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Top Lobster
He was the pastor and he was the guy that was talking about. He worked with kids like this nonverbal autist where they were doing spelling. And he was. He's figured this out on his own through his Christian ministry. We had him on the show and he's just like, he. We were talking and he was like, yeah. One thing I was really confused about is like, they removed like every mention of Jesus Christ.
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The Raven
These kids are interacting with Jesus Christ in a heavy way and it's all redacted.
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Top Lobster
That's pretty much his entire experience. Every single one of these kids is interacting with Jesus Christ on the hill somewhere, doing something like this. But during the telepathy tapes when they were aired, they were edited out completely. And he was like, I just can't figure out why she did that. And I was like, hate to break it to you, Joe, but it seemed like there was a little bit of a narrative here that they were pushing forward. And that narrative was a New age one. And we're talking about ascension, we're talking about enlightenment, hiring your frequency or whatever.
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The Raven
When these kids are all injured, they're all injured. Like, this is a terrible thing that has happened to these children.
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The Raven
And we want to talk about it like it's the next stage in human development. I think telepathy and these other faculties do exist within us. You know, maybe if you want to get highly speculative, that's what was happening at the Tower of Babel when we were all of one language and all of one goal, moving towards something. You know, getting into these heavenly realms. And God seems to have confused us, confused the languages, scattered us. Maybe it's old factory settings. Maybe there's something in the human DNA that still has access to that. But the way to get it is trauma.
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Top Lobster
We also communicate kind of telepathically with our wives. Often times, like, you know, there. There'll be times where I'm thinking a song in my head and she continues to sing it at like, right at that, at that point, I think that's just like being together a lot. So there is something about human beings that we do have this. But the more we extrapolated on this and thought about it, I'm like, telepathy seems like a low level version of communication or a version that we perhaps shouldn't use, and a way less powerful version. So we have the largest podcast in the world telling us that we have to ascend. So that way we could be like these guys and imagine if we could all be a hive mind and talk to each other in our heads all the time. You couldn't have any hidden thoughts and we could just be communicating because that's Another thing, the kids, they couldn't lie, right? Because they were always.
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The Raven
They didn't have the cultural, you know. Yeah, they one, they could perceive each other in such a way as they could not lie. But also they didn't have the societal and cultural baggage that made them lie. They didn't have any life experience that would be conducive to lying because of their state.
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David (Nugget)
Yeah, it'd be the Wild west these days with the thoughts going on in everyone's. Our heads around the world. Yeah, you could read each other's minds. So humanity wouldn't be ready for it at the moment anyway.
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The Raven
Well, we're talking about frequency, right? And in the Bible it says God used the word to create the universe. He spoke the universe into existence. I think that something powerful about frequency, about speaking, and I think that when you look into.
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Top Lobster
Again, sounds New age, right? Like manifestation.
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The Raven
Dude, it's. There's so many truths. There's so many truths in all of the things that they're talking about. The New age movement is talking about. Like it's not all inherently evil. It's just like, what conclusion do you draw? Like, that's the problem. It's like you look at this universe and you realize that there is frequency and spirituality and psychedelics can have this experience and that experience. And you can commune with different entities that are not in the physical. Yes, yes, yes, yes, dude, spot on, 100%. And you're having profound experiences that are leading you towards conclusions. It's like, what are these conclusions? But if, if God spoke the universe into existence, like, maybe speaking, maybe using the word is more powerful than we understand. We have a kind of a guy that appears on the show. He's almost a mentor of ours and he maintains that when you speak a thing, it happens in the spiritual realm and then eventually manifests in the real world. And that's a New age principle in a lot of ways, and one that I do not disagree with. And so on the flip side of that coin, every demonic encounter that anybody has, every alien encounter that somebody has, every. Even Cryptids, for those of you that believe in those, these things are all speaking telepathically. These low vibrational parasitic nightmare creatures are speaking telepathically.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, just like a recent story, that director, he said he encountered a gray at some island in like an Alaska.
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The Raven
Oh no, that was the Nordic. He encountered a Nordic island. Is it a tall white or something and like Maine or something like that?
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Top Lobster
Yeah, the guy knew who he was, kind of like read his thoughts and then told him to turn around and go home. And they were not within speaking distance. And he said the guy's lips never moved, but he was like 8ft tall, blonde hair. So he's communicating telepathically?
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The Raven
Yeah, and I'm just not so caught up. I think when a thing is profound and it's new, we do a mistake, we make a mistake, and it is therefore good and the truth, then entity appears to you. You think that when Aleister Crowley communed with Awas or Lamb, that the profundity of that experience didn't make him go. This is good and true. You know, now we understand Crowley is doing sex magic and he's in altered states constantly and calls himself the wickedest man. And I know that a lot of that was kind of a trope because that's what he was being labeled as that. You look at Lamb and it looks like the visage of a modern day gray alien. There's so much that seems to be wrong there. I don't think that Crowley thought he was wrong. I don't think that he thought he was doing evil. I mean, he's. He made these proclamations of being the wickedest man. But I think it's because, well, obviously his upbringing and the loss of his father, who was, I believe, a pastor or a priest, and it pushes him in this direction and then, and then, you know, sort of society labels him this and so he embraces it, which is something that I think we're guilty of too. It's like, you want to call us this and that, fine, we're this and that dude. So. So in that way, you know, Crowley is, is, you know, almost a rebellious individual that you can't blame. But I don't think the dude genuinely thought he was doing evil. I don't think anybody who is doing that, there's very, very far and few in between in my estimation that are engaging and let's say like ritual and ceremony and things like that, that aren't justifying it.
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The Raven
And it's rooted in some good in their mind, you know, so we have this thing by nature of seeing something that the materialistic realm says does not exist or interacting with something that doesn't exist. It's so profound changes. The paradigm must be good and true. And that's a huge mistake. And I think telepathy is one of those things where it's like, yeah, man, it's. It's a reality. It's a reality. But I don't think that it is. I think it's, it's far in second place, third place, whatever to the spoken word.
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Top Lobster
Well, also on, on the idea telepathy. If we can go back a little bit more where you were talking about that doctor that found heavy metals in the brain.
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The Raven
Dude, you're good.
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Top Lobster
That were removed. That it. The telepathy tapes led us down such a crazy path because I think in episode two, they, they mentioned, man, what's his name?
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The Raven
Is it Buhari? Yeah, they mentioned Buharij.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, yeah. Dr. Andreeja Puharich who comes around in like 1947 and starts getting patents for his dental tooth implant. And basically it's like a metal dental tooth implant. And they were using it to do voice to skull technology. So think about. You're familiar with like those headphones that will go on your, like right here on your head and it'll vibrate, but it'll create the sensation of sound. Same thing in your tooth.
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The Raven
Yeah. It's a really famous instance of Lucille Ball who, you know, she had.
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Top Lobster
And I don't even know how she got this. It might have been, I don't know.
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The Raven
I think they were free ranging it.
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Top Lobster
You think they were? Yeah, it's possible.
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The Raven
And they're doing it in Hollywood too. They need evangelists. A lot of this experiences that people have. Part of the point is to go on and evangelize. And it's usually to evangelize like a gnostic gospel or something like that. But they want people to spread this information one way or another that they're getting from these deceptive spirits. But in the case of Lucille Ball, she goes and has routine, you know, dental procedure done and gets this implant and starts picking up music in her head as she's driving. We've all seen that trope, like Looney Tunes used to do that they would get braces and pick up frequencies and such. So she's complaining about it to somebody and they say, did you get dental surgery recently? She said, yeah, I did. So he explains that there's heavy metals that are put in the tooth. Metal is a conductor. A conductor of what? Frequency Right. So I don't know if you see where we're going now with these kids, but it goes to such an extreme that Lucille Ball ends up thwarting a Japanese insurgency because she hears their communications in her head. So it's this really famous story. Oh, how quirky. They realize that it works. This tooth implant works. Now, the nervous system that's attached to the teeth goes directly to the brain. It's like the shortest route. That's why it's so dangerous if you get like a tooth infection and you don't, you know, take care of it, because it can go straight to your brain. So what would be better than the teeth is the brain. But you have the issue of the blood brain barrier. How do you get these implants in living individuals? Well, what if you have a procedure that is elongated over time in youth? Right. Happens a little bit at a time, and it deposits heavy metals in the brain. Directly in the brain. Now, not only are you in the state of disassociation, you can't engage with your body, you have frequency conducting heavy metals directly in your brain. These things, we've already talked about existence in frequency. When people are channeling, that's where they exist.
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Top Lobster
Another tidbit of information. I was just looking up the exact air, sorry, naval base, our army base, that Puharich was located at, because he was in the army. While he's doing well, he gets out of the army and then he starts developing these patents. But he came out of Edgewood Arsenal. And Edgewood Arsenal is directly connected to a lot of MK Ultra experiments. So now we're dealing with different chemical formulas, we're dealing with different techniques of how to basically how to get stuff inside people and see what happens.
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The Raven
And now at this point, you know, we talked about the free range aspect before. You're traumatizing yourself with your little scrying, you know, box or scrying mirror. We're all on low grade SSRIs. Probably at any given time. We're using psychedelics to do this, that and the other thing to commune with the spiritual. We all have heavy metals in our brain. That's the other thing. Yeah, Rogan is a whole other. I love Joe Rogan. But there's something really strange when it comes to promoting psychedelics and flying float tanks and the John C. Lilly sort of dolphin experiments with the float tanks with psychedelics that MK Ultra becomes very fascinated in. And if you look at Laurel Canyon and the popularization of the psychedelics movement that was manufactured by military intelligence, then Joe Rogan comes along and he creates another psychedelic experience resurgence. You know, culturally speaking, to me, it seems too serendipitous to be innocuous, but yeah, I mean, they're getting these metals into your brain directly. Much of the programs that came out of MKUltra, they say MK Ultra went away whatever year. It's like, no, it was viable and it went to the free range state and it was implemented at scale. And I think a lot of it is to, like, the GATE program, the gifted and talented. I think the selection process is for these programs. That's what the GATE is. It's. It's to find candidates that are suited for because they discovered some people are more receptive to this.
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Top Lobster
Think about the severity. And again, like, for YouTube's sake. But like, I went from 16 when I was a kid. Like, that's what I got.
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The Raven
The schedule's crazy.
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Top Lobster
My kids, 72, something like that.
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David (Nugget)
Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. And I've obviously got the full indoctrination when I went through uni. And then I've come full circle and realized the truth now that, yeah, there's no safe amount of heavy metal in the human body, which is like all things in nature. Right? Yeah, but. Well, I'm not sure how you guys are going for time, but I'd love to know what's the most interesting conversations you've had recently or rabbit holes you've been going down, things that blow in your mind, change your opinion.
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The Raven
Yeah, for me, this is just coming to the top of their head. So if anybody hears this and they're like, what about me? Forgive me, but Karen Wilkinson, we do so many interviews. We do so many. I mean, we're doing like seven episodes a week. Karen Wilkinson is an author and she's a Christian. She works with La Marzulli, Vicky Joy Anderson. They do a fantastic job of looking at sleep paralysis, demonic encounters, alien abductions. Karen Wilkinson is an abductee victim who recalls a lot of her experience. And one of the more fascinating things, she said she has children that would fit the Black Eyed children kind of paradigm. So for people that are familiar with the abduction experience, there seems to be a phenomenon of impregnation. And then. And the baby mysteriously disappears, only later on to be reintroduced to the mother. And in the 80s, they looked like kind of grotesque grays mixed with humans, big black eyes, pale skin. And that's kind of refined over time. The more you look into the testimony, the more the children bear a greater resemblance to human beings instead of grace. She's had that experience she has children that she's been introduced to that felt like her own children, but were uncanny and barely responsive and lacked any of the social elements that kids of their age would typically have. The other thing that she said was that in one particular instance, she saw the Grays discarded in a heap on the ship.
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The Raven
They smelled foul, like sulfur and uncleaned, you know, unwashed. And they seem to be suits almost in the way that they were discarded. They had no life in them. And it led to this speculation of hers that I think has some real legs, that the Grays are automatons, which is pretty consistent with people's experiences. No reproductive organs, no emotional range, just sort of a hive mind, worker bee kind of a feel. And in that way, it's kind of allowed us to speculate, you know, in the greater hybridization program, Nephilim aliens. What's the connection here? Demons are spirits, Then how are demons aliens? How are they the same thing? I think the array that is demonic has been so diversified. There's so many different things now that are biological or technological or otherwise that are in that camp. And I think that there's a chance, based off of her story, that these things are automatons that can be inhabited temporarily by a spirit that have very limited capacity. They just do a thing, or maybe they just get turned off and left in a heap. But her stories and her estimation of the alien phenomenon have really informed my worldview and helped me to put these things together in such a way that when Steven Spielberg comes along and says, and says, Christians are going to have a real hard time with their faith when they watch Disclosure Day, or people that say, when aliens reveal themselves, what are Christians going to do? I am so firm in my position, not that I couldn't be introduced to information that wouldn't make me move things around and see how they fit. But the Christian worldview accommodates all of this in such a way that I look at these people who say, you're gonna be shaken up. And I go, we talk about this every single day. And there's nothing that doesn't fit. There's nothing that gives me pause. I come from a line. My grandmother was an alien abductee victim, and her life was cut pretty short because of the stresses of that and the abuse, the alcohol abuse that she went into. My bloodline is filled with iniquity. My aunt is schizophrenic in the worst possible way. All of the kids of my generation experience all of the things, the strangest things. And where I sit now because of conversations with people like Karen, like, none of this is even remote. I feel bad if, if you're a Christian and you're just going through the motions because, yeah, you will be shaken up, you know, if you, if you don't.
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David (Nugget)
Yeah, that's pretty crazy. I haven't heard that take before either. And it kind of gets me thinking about when we hear stories of military bases where they're growing things in tanks, whether it be grays or hybrids or celebrities, and then you see, like, the eyes change or something. Are they like possessed or whatever. It all kind of ties into that one thing, what you just described. Yeah.
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The Raven
By the way, I do think that a great deal of alien abductions are an extension of that same kind of MK Ultra style project, because so often military personnel are present in these people's stories. Medical personnel are present, scientific personnel are present among this array of. So I think there is, there's a chance even that many of the things people encounter are just kind of nightmare, chimeric creatures that are cooked up in a laboratory and meant to maybe create a screen memory for some nefarious intelligence agency operation that you actually went through. And you're meant to remember this automaton or, you know, so often people will describe Cryptids, Dogman being one that's pretty famous right now in and around military bases. That's where the encounter happened within a radius of. Of only a few miles or even right up against the gate, let's say, of a military base. I've heard hundreds of these to the extent where I don't think people are lying anymore. You're just collecting data and patterns. And I think that, yeah, they're probably cooking up things. And I don't think it's any different than what used to happen when you
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Top Lobster
get like, there are people out there like Albarino, that are fighting for disclosure and they're. I guess their reason is to expose a lot of these crimes because in a sense they're just straight up crimes. If you're going to be Taking people from their homes, impregnating them against their will, or performing experiments on them, wiping their brain. And the government's implicit and involved with this. It needs to be exposed. On the other side of that, when you do expose it, what happens? And we're living that right now. I don't know what's happening in Australia, but, like, there's a slow drip here before the dam breaks.
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The Raven
And are you guys getting disclosure in the same way or is it. Is it kind of people watching the American government
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David (Nugget)
in terms of, like, alien disclosure specifically? Yeah, there's been a big push and yeah, there's a couple of Aussie guys on, like, journalists on 60 Minutes, like the mainstream ones the last few years that have really been ramping it up and stuff. And we've got a long history here with Pine Gap and our nuclear experiments and. But yeah, Australia is a very, very weird place with heaps of conspiracy and occult stuff as well. I'm not sure if you guys have ever been down the Australia rabbit hole much.
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The Raven
No, I. I honestly would love to have you on, because I don't know anything about Australia. We'd love to have you on some time to. To talk about it, because you kind of alluded to that before we started the show too. And, you know, the. The kind of correlation between America and. And Australia.
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Top Lobster
What I do know about Australia is that it seems like most of it's not inhabited. It seems like a lot of it is kind of like a desert or something.
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The Raven
Seems like there's some. Some folks are drinking gasoline. You know, I think a lot. I think a lot of what happened, especially, you know, during the pandemic was like they were testing it on you guys. You guys were almost ground zero for some of the most egregious government overstepping.
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David (Nugget)
We've been ground zero since 1778, which I'd love to get into with you guys.
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The Raven
You guys are the petri dish. They're testing it on you.
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David (Nugget)
Uhhuh.
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The Raven
That's interesting.
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David (Nugget)
Everything that's interesting. And Pine Gap might be the most important military. Deepest military base in the world from people that I've interviewed that say they've been there and stuff.
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The Raven
So you're talking about deep underground military bases, like that style.
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David (Nugget)
Have you heard of Pine Gap? It's like in the middle of. It's the middle of the outback of the desert, and it's the. The key of the Five Eyes alliance. And people, like, victims that I've spoken to that have been to underground military bases said it's like it's that deep and it's connected to everywhere around the world.
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The Raven
And that's incredible. We'll talk after the show and get you booked with, you know, see what you're like. I'd love to talk about that.
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Top Lobster
Can I say what my favorite and not favorite episode, but like my favorite thing. It'll be quick, I promise. On a recent episode, we were talking with Rob Skiba's son, Jeremiah. You know who Rob Skiba is? He was like, maybe he's like og Nephilim dude. Like he knew.
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The Raven
Flat earther.
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Top Lobster
Og.
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The Raven
Flat earther.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, yeah. Anyway, his son's out there doing great work and we found out that elephants have breasts. Did you know that?
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David (Nugget)
That have breasts.
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The Raven
Like, not like udders. Like they have like breasts.
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David (Nugget)
Yeah. Didn't know that.
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The Raven
Like a lady. They got two hang. Hanging heavies.
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Top Lobster
And I. I think it might be a Mandela effect because I don't remember that as a kid.
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The Raven
You think everybody would know that.
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Top Lobster
But yeah, if you Google that, listeners at home. Elephant tits.
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The Raven
Elephant tits is crazy.
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Top Lobster
And they look like.
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The Raven
They look like boobs.
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Top Lobster
Yeah. Like you could put a bra on an elephant and you would be like, damn. You know, I had no idea.
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The Raven
I would have imagined they had udders.
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Top Lobster
Like, why even put them on there?
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The Raven
This is very strange, actually.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, you'd imagine there'd be better ways to feed them.
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The Raven
There are non canonical Jewish texts that talk about, oh, this is fun. At the Tower of Babel. It elaborates this idea that when God confused the languages and scattered the nations. In these Jewish texts, it even claims that some were turned into animals and the elephant is one of them. If you look at the structural.
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Top Lobster
Of the foot.
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The Raven
Design of the foot. Yeah, it looks just like a human's. Doesn't look at all like what you would think given the.
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Top Lobster
It looks like a human's foot on a high heel and then standing on like a. A thing of blood.
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David (Nugget)
Which is not the pig conspiracy as well.
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The Raven
Yeah, I think that is in there. But the idea that. That pigs were. Well, it goes both ways. Pigs are either a byproduct of us or we're a byproduct, a genetic, you know, deviation of pigs. Which is very fun. That's why we're so compatible when it comes to, you know, I guess in some cases how we should eat them. Right?
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Top Lobster
Is that what they say?
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The Raven
Oh, that's interesting too. That we shouldn't eat them is they're riddled with parasites.
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Top Lobster
So are we.
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The Raven
So are we. We all have parasite issues.
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David (Nugget)
Well, guys, I Could chat to you for hours. I love it. Anything. I'll put all the links to follow you guys on all your socials down below, but any final thoughts from both of you?
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The Raven
Not necessarily a thought, but we do a live event. I don't want to get out of here without mentioning this. We do a live event. I know most of your audience is likely in Australia, but we do a show called Brohemian Grove.
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David (Nugget)
Yeah.
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The Raven
And there.
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David (Nugget)
That's.
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The Raven
Last year we had Sam Tripoli and Owen Benjamin headlining the event. And we get everybody together, you know, in this kind of conspiracy community, who can make it? And we. We just come down and it's heavy on the comedy, but we talk about all sorts of things and, you know, it's a fantastic time. We're doing the next one. Bohemian Grove is happening here in Florida on August 8th. So if anybody's interested, if you have anybody that's in the. In the area that would like to be a part of it. We have so many people coming out, I can't even name it. I think the list right now is like, there's like 25 different podcasts that are coming out to hang out with us. Toplobster.com my co host namesake. Just go there and that's where our merch is going to be. But it's also where the tickets to Bohemian Grove are going to be.
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David (Nugget)
Awesome. I'll link that for you guys. But any thoughts from you, Lobster on anything at all before we wrap it up?
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Top Lobster
I have very few original thoughts, and the ones that I do, I'm not even sure are my own. As we've discussed, floating through the ether. This was a great time, man. I appreciate you having us on.
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The Raven
Yeah, thank you.
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Top Lobster
Alex, I do have a question. What time is it right now for you?
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David (Nugget)
It's quarter past 12 and this is the latest podcast I've done in a few years. But it's what we've got to do right when we're on different sides of the world. Wow.
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The Raven
Well, thank you for making the time for us, dude. This is a pleasure. I really appreciate it.
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Top Lobster
I do appreciate that, man. Thank you for having us, dude.
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David (Nugget)
No stress. It was great to get you. Get to know you guys properly as well. And yeah, well done. Only success and we'll probably collab again in future, so take care.
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The Raven
You too.
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David (Nugget)
Cheers, guys. Cool.
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The Raven
Hey, everybody.
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