NDS on The Propaganda Report

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Podcast Summary: Nephilim Death Squad - "NDS on The Propaganda Report"

Podcast Information:

• Title: Nephilim Death Squad
• Host/Author: TopLobsta Productions
• Episode: NDS on The Propaganda Report
• Release Date: June 17, 2025

Overview: In this engaging episode, Top Lobster and Raven join Brad Binkley from The Propaganda Report to discuss their upcoming event, Bohemian Grove 3. The conversation delves into the challenges they faced with venue changes, the impact of cancel culture, local political dynamics in Leesburg, Florida, and broader themes surrounding propaganda and speech suppression. The hosts provide insights into their resilience and strategies to navigate controversies while promoting their event.

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1. Introduction and Event Announcement

[00:55] Brad Binkley:
Brad opens the discussion by highlighting the significance of The Propaganda Report as a leading propaganda-focused podcast, noting its high ranking on platforms like X and Listen Notes.

[28:41] Raven:
Raven announces the details of the Bohemian Grove 3 event, outlining the lineup which includes Shane Cashman, the Nephilim Death Squad, Elijah Schaefer, Jake Shields, and other notable conspiratorial creators from Florida and beyond.

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2. Bohemian Grove 3: Planning and Venue Challenges

a. Original Venue and Venue Change

[03:22] Top Lobster:
Top Lobster credits General Flynn for funding the event and explains the concept of combining conspiracy theories with comedy.

[05:21] Raven:
Raven expresses excitement about the new venue, describing the speaker's interactions with David, the current owner of the venue, who contrasts with the previous owner Alex.

[06:05] Top Lobster:
Top Lobster shares an anecdote about their initial venue falling through and how Alex, the original venue owner known humorously as "the red coated Jew," stepped in to save the event.

[09:18] Top Lobster:
Details about the new 240-seat theater in Leesburg, Florida, are discussed, emphasizing its features such as ramped seating and fixed props for dynamic stage setups.

[11:09] Brad Binkley:
Brad recounts the initial enthusiasm for the new venue and the subsequent pushback due to the inclusion of controversial performers like Owen Benjamin.

b. Challenges with Controversial Acts

[07:04] Raven:
Raven recounts a past incident where drag queens were invited to perform, leading to tensions within the conspiracy community, highlighting divisions within LGBTQ communities.

[08:48] Top Lobster:
Top Lobster discusses the problematic nature of involving drag performers in the event, explaining how it clashed with the conservative and conspiracy-focused ethos of their show.

c. Local Politics and Censorship Issues

[30:11] Raven:
Raven exposes the hypocrisy in the local politics of Leesburg, Florida, revealing that while the town is officially conservative, its main street is dominated by progressive businesses and individuals.

[35:26] Brad Binkley:
Brad elaborates on how local politics, influenced by activist groups, can quickly turn against events and performers who don't align with their ideological stance.

d. Impact of Cancel Culture

[16:48] Brad Binkley:
Brad criticizes mainstream media outlets, particularly the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), for misrepresenting events and contributing to the canceling of performers like Owen Benjamin.

[24:06] Top Lobster:
Top Lobster argues that suppressing speech only builds resentment, leading to a disproportionate backlash once dialogue becomes permissible again on platforms like Twitter.

Notable Quote:
Brad Binkley [25:05]: "It's the same shit. It's these people banking on virtue signaling over their economic well being and economic well being of the town around them. It's wild."

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3. The Controversy Surrounding Owen Benjamin

a. Background on Cancellation

[17:31] Top Lobster:
Top Lobster explains how Owen Benjamin has been effectively canceled, unable to use platforms like PayPal or Airbnb, and discusses his potential final performance.

b. Fallout and Response

[18:12] Raven:
Raven expresses hope that Owen Benjamin will reconsider his stance, emphasizing the unfairness of his cancellation and its broader implications for free speech.

[26:56] Raven:
Raven reads a critical ADL article, highlighting its misrepresentative portrayal of their event and emphasizing that their show is being unfairly labeled as racist and homophobic.

Notable Quote:
Raven [26:56]: "This was the propaganda report. So you guys dabble in like a little bit more political and things like that, not just, not just conspiracy. You want to know how dumb these people are?"

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4. Broader Themes: Propaganda, Speech Suppression, and Cognitive Programming

a. Effects of Suppressing Dialogue

[25:04] Top Lobster:
Top Lobster discusses the psychological impact of suppressing speech, leading to increased resentment and the eventual explosion of suppressed emotions.

[27:22] Brad Binkley:
Brad relates this to historical propaganda techniques, emphasizing how emotional programming can manipulate public perception and behavior.

b. Cognitive Programming and Language Landmines

[50:10] Top Lobster:
The discussion shifts to how language and identity politics create "language landmines" that trigger programmed emotional responses, affecting critical thinking and societal interactions.

[54:04] Raven:
Raven emphasizes the role of early childhood programming in shaping unconscious thoughts and how media and academia perpetuate these influences.

Notable Quote:
Top Lobster [50:53]: "You're just gonna do what you think you're gonna do there. And unfortunately, that is, you know, that's gone now."

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5. Resilience and Future Strategies

a. Adapting to Challenges

[37:15] Brad Binkley:
Brad underscores the resilience of the Nephilim Death Squad in shifting venues promptly and continuing their mission despite opposition.

[43:12] Brad Binkley:
Brad encourages embracing boldness and authenticity, advising against walking on eggshells to fit into restrictive progressive norms.

b. Promoting Free Speech and Critical Thinking

[55:02] Brad Binkley:
Brad advocates for maintaining free speech and resisting ideological coercion, highlighting the importance of critical thinking in combating propaganda.

[61:07] Brad Binkley:
Brad references "Thinking Fast and Slow," emphasizing the importance of conscious effort in overcoming unconscious programming.

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6. Upcoming Events and Performers

[87:40] Raven:
Raven provides a detailed rundown of the Bohemian Grove 3 event schedule, including performances by Shane Cashman, Elijah Schaefer, and Jake Shields, as well as panel discussions hosted by Jonathan and Jacob.

[88:22] Brad Binkley:
Brad encourages listeners to purchase tickets and attend the event, highlighting its scale and diverse lineup.

[89:12] Top Lobster:
Final remarks emphasize the importance of staying informed and supporting events that promote free speech and counteract propaganda.

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Conclusion: In this episode, Top Lobster and Raven effectively communicate the struggles and triumphs of organizing Bohemian Grove 3 amidst a landscape rife with cancel culture and ideological suppression. Their candid discussion with Brad Binkley underscores the importance of resilience, free speech, and critical thinking in the face of societal and political challenges. The hosts advocate for engaging openly and authentically to counteract the negative impacts of propaganda, encouraging their audience to support their upcoming event as a bastion of truth and free discourse.

Notable Closing Quote: Top Lobster [89:35]: "It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade them that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see."

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Transcript

[Brad Binkley]

Productions.

[Top Lobster]

We are being hypnotized by people like this.

[Raven]

News readers, politicians, teachers, lecturers.

[Brad Binkley]

We are in a country and in a world that is being run by unbelievably sick people.

[Raven]

The chasm between what we're told is.

[Top Lobster]

Going on and what is really going.

[Raven]

On is absolutely oh yeah, dude, there's some Nephilim.

[Top Lobster]

It's like we all know what's going down but no one's saying what happened to the home of the brave. These they control us now when no one's talking about how they know there's not and everybody's just walking around heading the closet want to wake up to a dead in the grave. But then it's too late. We need to be ready to raise up welcome to the end of day everybody is only some are aware that.

[Brad Binkley]

The government number one propaganda focused podcast in the world according to whatever that ranking thing is it goes around on X which I'm going to trust that as long as that's how the rankings are also one of the top 5% audio podcasts in the world according to listen Notes which which as long as it's like that, that's my number one source for podcast rankings. The Propaganda Report. I am Brad Binkley. Got a It's going to be a fun show today. Before diving in, I do want to congratulate Uma Abedin and Alex Soros for their wedding over the weekend which was attended of course by Uma's ex lover Hillary Clinton. Bill was there probably creeping people out. No word on if Ghislaine Maxwell was there from temporary leave or how the ceremonial drinking of the baby's blood went, but I'm sure it was grand nevertheless. I've been getting a lot of messages asking about when I'm going to be performing live again after the show in Tennessee from people who were not able to make it down there. And that is coming up this coming Friday and Saturday. There is a show in Summerfield, Florida I believe is where the exact location is at the joke joint. It's going to be a wild show. Bohemian Grove and Bohemian Grove. Excuse me. And here to talk about it with us today and tell us about what's going on and it's going to be an exciting weekend. On are the organizers of the event the Nephilim Death Squad, Top Lobster and Raven. What's up guys?

[Top Lobster]

What's going on brother?

[Raven]

What's up?

[Brad Binkley]

It's good to see you guys.

[Raven]

It's cool to be on this show. I've been listening to the Propaganda Report since my God, I remember listening to you guys cover, you know, January 6th, but also, like, I was listening years before that as well. So this is, this is cool.

[Brad Binkley]

Yeah, we, we. We've been doing this thing for quite some time now and watching it evolve and see so many more people get into podcasting like you guys, you guys, you guys have blown up. And it's, it's really cool that with the cross pollination that we're doing now, as we were talking about before the show. So I. Raven, I want to say, man, you look sharp. Like you're right out of Miami Vice right now. Very cool.

[Top Lobster]

That's the nicest way anybody's ever put it. You can say it looks gay, and I agree with you, and that's perfectly fine. But thank you very much for the compliments. I try my best to, to put off people, you know.

[Brad Binkley]

Yes, yes. Very, very cool. So tell us about Bohemian Go Grove, what to expect, why people need to get down there for this event.

[Top Lobster]

Well, can we first start by thanking General Flynn for funding the event, making it possible without his, without his help, without his organizational skills, Bohemian Grove wouldn't be happening. But it was, it was an attempt by Top Lobster and I to get together two of our favorite things, which are conspiracy theories and comedy. We said, why isn't there a tremendous overlap in this already? I mean, if you watch Tinfoil Hat, Sam, Tripoli does it so masterfully. It's one of my favorite shows. And we said, why can't we do something like this on stage? It turns out it's because it's a logistical nightmare, but we've still pushed forward and we are now entering what is the third Bohemian Grove. And yeah, man, I want to thank you for, for being a part of it. And, you know, Tripoli is going to be down there. Owen Benjamin's going to be down there when you want to talk about a logistical nightmare. And I'm sure we're going to get into it. It really is, dude. It really is.

[Brad Binkley]

Producing a show, I mean, one of that scale, I can't imagine. I've produced a lot, a lot of shows since I've been doing like, improv and stand up over the years, and it's very stressful. There's a lot to think about. The. You have last minute problems that arise, which I know you guys have dealt with. So I.

[Raven]

Last minute problems.

[Brad Binkley]

What do you.

[Raven]

What would you.

[Brad Binkley]

A venue change at one point. If I, if I do recall, maybe a little bit of drama as well.

[Raven]

Yeah. So this is like, I have a little bit of Background in doing, like, live stuff. I used to play in a church, so that's like. Obviously the live application is there. I did Skank Fest for two or three years. I did a. Yeah. What did he say?

[Brad Binkley]

Sorry, I just. I was reading that comment.

[Top Lobster]

That's an inside joke. For whatever reason, the. The venue owner, Alex, who's a wonderful guy, saved our ass this time. They call him the red coated Jew. I'm almost certain he's not Jewish, or else, you know, my Cuban aware of him. Yeah, so. So. But, you know, it's a running joke now. He's the red coated Jew.

[Raven]

I don't think he knows I'm excited when you guys. When everybody meets him there. If you guys aren't going to Bohemian Grove, I don't know why the. You're not going there. It's two days of insanity. But when you go there. The owner of the venue is David in 20 years or so.

[Top Lobster]

He dresses me now.

[Raven]

He's. He's you now, but, like, he's older. He dresses like. Like loud. He's very loud. He's out there. He has an annoying voice like David. It's. It's fucking fantastic to see them stand next to each other and they, like, you could tell. Like, they don't. Almost don't even like each other because they're just too much alike.

[Top Lobster]

I do like him. I do. I like him a lot. And to be perfectly honest. Yeah, you're. You're alluding to a venue change. This guy saved our ass. If it wasn't for Alex and the joke joint when the first venue fell through our fingers.

[Raven]

Is there still music playing?

[Top Lobster]

Is there? No, that's. I think you're having a stroke.

[Raven]

I think I'm having a stroke. I hear guitar.

[Top Lobster]

That's not happening at all, darling.

[Brad Binkley]

Still. Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

Is it?

[Brad Binkley]

I don't. I don't think so. Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

Wait, wait, wait.

[Raven]

Listen.

[Top Lobster]

He has that. It's. It's the demon.

[Brad Binkley]

Oh, it was barely play. Good. Good ear.

[Raven]

I hear it. Yes.

[Brad Binkley]

That'S right.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brad Binkley]

It's my buddy who I wrote that song for us. Yeah, good. Nice ear there.

[Top Lobster]

But yeah, these. These people, they bust his ass a lot. But you know why they bust his ass? Because last time we did, bro. Yes, we had. He said, hey, I want to do something to augment the experience. And we go, go on. And he goes. So what I did was I reached out to a couple of trannies and I asked them to go. It's really drag queens. But it's all. Who can tell the difference these days. And he invited them on to come and perform after we were done. Not knowing that within the conspiracy community, that's just a huge problem. Right. I mean, it's not, it's not a good move to do. So.

[Raven]

Yeah, he's like, what do you. Did he think this was a Republican conservative, like fucking thing? They would love that shit.

[Brad Binkley]

Half of them are drag queens. Yeah. So is that with the drag queens? Not to go too off, off path, but do drag queens like trans or are they like, you're stealing my thunder type thing? I'm not sure.

[Top Lobster]

I'm aware of a couple of ground skirmishes between local drag queens and local trannies. And you'd be surprised. The drag queens, they outnumber them significantly. And. And it's a, it's a fight to the death. Although most of the, the trans community, they're, they're gone well before they get to the, to the half of the.

[Brad Binkley]

Drag queens are in the NBA also. So.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, I mean they're athletic, they're competitive. They are competitive.

[Raven]

Yeah. They were ready to throw down. Like they were walking in and we were still on stage and we're just like berating them as they come in to change. And it was, it was a disaster. But I've been, I've been assured that there will be no trannies here at this one. Yeah, he learned his lesson. Those two do not mix. But Alex is, you know, he's well meaning. He's just retarded. He doesn't know, he doesn't know what goes, you know.

[Brad Binkley]

So it sounds like he, you might not be able to pair the same theme show on a night, but that he is welcoming to, to all types of shows.

[Top Lobster]

Oh yeah. Which is problematic because we do a Christian based conspiracy show over on Nephilim Death Squad and he will occasionally host a seance. And that's not even like a stretch or an exaggeration. The dude will, he's like, yeah, whatever, if you pay me and you, you show, you know, then we're going to contact the dead. We'll get a couple of trainees out here. We'll contact the dead.

[Brad Binkley]

So contact the dead with some trainees for the.

[Top Lobster]

Right. It's a lot, man. He's a good guy, though.

[Raven]

Yeah. In between that they're doing, they're doing midget wrestling and like the hunks, like so dudes, strippers and showing up and it's a wild place. I like Alex, he's crazy. But this is actually the first performance in this place. So it's going to be a bigger place. It's like a 500 seater. We're not even going to come close to filling it about half. I think we'll, we'll get to about half, which is pretty damn good. Yeah, yeah.

[Top Lobster]

That looked a lot more impressive in the previous venue. But what ended up happening there is, you know, we secure this venue. We've got this wonderful theater in Leesburg, Florida, and it is everything that you could hope for. You know, when you're trying to throw a live event, it's got everything you need. It's got set decor, it's got even some, some fixed props that you can spin around to change the way the thing looks.

[Brad Binkley]

It's.

[Top Lobster]

It's really a dream come true. 240 seat venue. And the, the, the seating is even in such a way that it's ramped so you can see over everybody's head, you know, like that style.

[Raven]

Well, I will say the seating in this venue now, it's, it's gonna be better for the audience because, yeah, there are tables so people could actually get up. Whereas like when you have theater seating in rows, it's kind of like you get up and everyone's got to do, you know, one of those and it's. It sucks. Yeah, the tables, you'll have your drinks. There's a bar here that's going to be in the room. So it's probably more friendly. It's going to be better, a better experience for the audience because we will be mingling in between these nobodies. You know, we'll have to like to get to the stage. We're not coming from a backstage. We have to actually brush shoulders with the, with the filth. So. But they like that. We don't like it as much. It is what it is.

[Brad Binkley]

Yeah, it's. Was it like Donahue where the audience, the people came down from the back? Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong show, but I remember some of those old school show.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, it's going to kind of be like that. You won't come from the back, but you'll have to see these terrible people as you pass by. For the audience, it's going to be an awesome experience. But you know, for us, we kind of had.

[Raven]

Just wash your hands, guys, please.

[Top Lobster]

What's that? Yeah, wash your hands, please. We had, when we first saw the theater, like it was too good to be true. But they agreed to. And we said to them, hey look, we want to do. Is there a poor section? It's outside, actually. It's outside. You guys can't come in.

[Brad Binkley]

We.

[Top Lobster]

We. We stress to them, hey, this is really offensive comedy. Not only is it offensive comedy, but it's weird. We're gonna be doing really fringe, dangerous conspiracy theory here. Everything that you're not supposed to do, you're gonna get in trouble for doing. I said, no, no, no. We deal with offensive comedy all the time. It's not a big deal. And Top will say to them, are you.

[Brad Binkley]

Are you sure, dude?

[Raven]

I, like, I fucking crossed the line. Like, it's bad what I do. And they go, dude, well, like, it's a closed event. Like, you're selling it on your own site. So, like, we just won't advertise it to people. And I was like, that's fair. Because there's a retarded college, literally a retarded people college across the street, which we were going to talk about heavily.

[Brad Binkley]

That's the name of it.

[Raven]

Yeah, Retarded people college. It's like where they go to.

[Top Lobster]

Retarded College of Leesburg, Florida. That's what it says in the front.

[Raven]

That's actually where the theater director graduated from.

[Brad Binkley]

I got rejected. I didn't get in there.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, yeah. But lovely people, Top. What did you. How many times do you think you told them this?

[Raven]

Oh, I mean, upon meeting them. Three times in the first day. Every single time that I went back.

[Brad Binkley]

To the theater, like, so that. That. That's what I was curious about. Because I know there's places around Atlanta where I'm just not even. They have half the nights there, like, LGBTQ and Allies open mic nights, where it's like, if you're a trans or a lesbian, you get like, five minutes. If you're an ally, I don't know how you prove that you're an ally. Maybe you have to, like, suck off a trans. I'm not sure.

[Top Lobster]

The trans people just get up and ask if they're passing for five minutes. They're just like, can you tell? Can you tell? Honestly, can you tell? Tell me the truth.

[Brad Binkley]

Oftentimes that smell I've seen are like six foot two. And their voice is still. They haven't, like, perfected the voice yet, so it's still very deep. And they're talking about subjects that relate to absolutely nobody.

[Top Lobster]

But.

[Brad Binkley]

But everybody's acting. They're snapping along. Cause it's just a really strange thing. But you're a white guy. It's like, you don't. So I'm not gonna present a show there, but there's been other circumstances where I'VE gone on auditions where when people they look you up and they're gonna find my show. And so I was auditioning for this show and I got a call back to it and I told them. When I first talked to them, I was like, I told them what I did, and then when they called me back, I was like, are you sure? Are you sure you want someone who does, you know, what I do and Conspiracy theorist. And then I go into the callback audition and it's this flaming homosexual casting director who, when I told him I was a conspiracy theorist, everything I told all the other people, he just got triggered and started going, are you one of those fucking stupid ones? I'm like, whoa.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[Raven]

What do you mean, though?

[Brad Binkley]

Crazy?

[Raven]

Of course I'm stupid.

[Brad Binkley]

Yeah, Right, right. And then he tried to do an improv scene where he wanted to give me a hand job where that was very weird. It was all. He tried to Harvey Weinstein me.

[Top Lobster]

That's kind of nice, though. I mean, right?

[Brad Binkley]

He liked me. What was the, like, one of those girls that really wants somebody who's like a conservative leaning person.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[Raven]

What was the line? What was the line for him? Do you think, like, of a stupid one?

[Brad Binkley]

Well, he started. He started saying stuff like, I feel like MSB, this was an hour and 20 minute audition. I'd never been on one longer than like 20 minutes. It was crazy. And he started saying stuff like, msnbc, I feel like, is the one that doesn't lie to people. And I'm like, I kind of think they might. It might. I might a little bit, you know? And he kept going back to that. He kept saying, they don't say the. The R word. And I wasn't even thinking about that at the time. I was just like, r word what? Republican? You know? And he's like, no, he's like, they don't say the F word. He's talking about faggot, obviously. And then like 10 minutes later, he dawned on me what he was talking about because he said R word again. He said, msnbc again. And I said, oh, now I know what R word you're talking about. I'm so fucking retarded. And then he was like, let's do the improv scene. And he set this whole thing up where we're gonna crash into the water, the car's gonna flip over because I'm drunk driving and I'm jerking you off while I'm like, oh, that's dangerous. It was really, really odd. And if I were that type of person, I probably could have got him in trouble for that. That so my friend.

[Raven]

Probably not.

[Brad Binkley]

Dude, he did better at getting a hand job. Is that so that. But I didn't want them calling me back in if it was going to be a problem what I did. And so it sounds like you did the same thing minus the improv hand job.

[Top Lobster]

No, he did jerk me off, but.

[Raven]

Yeah, he actually gave me a hand job.

[Brad Binkley]

Tangible.

[Raven]

So he called me to the back, he said, but like when he's going to tell me the news about Owen Benjamin? So he's like, first off, we got a letter or we have some people. But first he jerked me off. So it was like at least three minutes that he's just, you know, that's.

[Brad Binkley]

Two or three times.

[Raven]

Yeah. And then I'm like, okay, we're good. And I said, well, what's the news, Dustin? Tell me because now I'm all primed up, baby. And then he tells me, he goes, we got a message from somebody. I said, can I see who sent it? No, you can't see it. And I said, all right, well what did they say? And he just shows me an ADL article. It's about Owen Benjamin, which he, he called Ben. He said this guy Benjamin, he thinks his first name is Benjamin because they don't even know who. It's wild. Like you don't even know who you're booking. And like I'm very clear and upfront with them. So he shows me the message.

[Top Lobster]

Owen's face has been on the poster from the beginning.

[Brad Binkley]

I was wondering too.

[Raven]

Yeah.

[Brad Binkley]

Because any of that.

[Top Lobster]

We'll talk about it after, you know, some time. But they wrote an article where they acted like we blindsided them and that we never told them who was performing.

[Raven]

Like if we only knew. All over here. Go ahead and share. You share the screen so you could see. This was the first poster and the only poster that I did. Well, actually I revised it because I put Elijah on, but this was the same thing. So yeah, there's Owen with his name and there's Sam with his name and that's it. So it's been nice.

[Brad Binkley]

He had to just be blind. He had to. Somebody had to say something to him and complain.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah. So effectively what goes on is Owen Benjamin. A lot of people talk about being canceled. Owen Benjamin is legitimately canceled. Right. Can't use like PayPal, can't use Airbnb, shit like that.

[Raven]

And he had old fashioned cancellation handy.

[Brad Binkley]

Can't do the show here, but we'll do it one more time.

[Top Lobster]

So. So he has people that are dedicated to following his every move, all of his plans, and then getting ahead of the curve and thwarting them for him. So Owen Benjamin is my understanding he hasn't toured or left and performed anywhere in five years.

[Raven]

Actually, this will be. This is his last performance out anywhere. He's never going to do it again. So he says. I, I hope he's. I don't think he's lying. I just hope he. He'll think more about it.

[Top Lobster]

But like, yeah, I hope he changes his mind in the future after. It's not so fresh.

[Raven]

But I get why, though, he's like, he's like, he's like. I feel like I'm like a wrecking ball, you know, like, we, we did something nice here and he came and he's like, I feel like I ruined it. But he didn't ruin it. He didn't ruin it. It's just. I thought we were past it, you know, and he thought he was. He thought people were passing. Like, think about it, Think about this, like, logically. You get canceled for something you do or you, let's say you hit somebody with a car, Brad, right?

[Brad Binkley]

Yeah.

[Raven]

You go to jail for five years, you come out.

[Brad Binkley]

Yeah.

[Raven]

Can you drive a car now? I think. Right. Like, there's probably like, maybe some time in between, but then you can go take your license again and then you could drive again. Well, Owen Benjamin, he said some jokes and then he wasn't allowed to say jokes for like eight years.

[Brad Binkley]

He didn't physically harm anybody.

[Raven]

No. And the jokes were funny and they were true. They're jokes that you can see other people saying on Netflix now, unfortunately, he said it in fucking 2014 or something like that.

[Top Lobster]

That's always guilty of is being ahead of the curve and being honest at that time when everybody else was afraid to be honest.

[Brad Binkley]

Yeah. And what they say, like the adl and you see, I think Dave Portnoy was even saying something like this the other day, is that some of these jokes actually do cause physical harm. Is their reasoning on some of this, which is totally ridiculous. It's all way to control speech. And I don't. I guess it's probably activists or people have nothing better to do who feel the need to go out and report that people who say things they don't like are going to be somewhere. It's just, I don't understand that mentality or what type of life that is. Well, I know that funny that organized them to do it.

[Top Lobster]

And I started really, like, one of the biggest things that Got Portnoy on the map in the beginning was a rape joke. And when the, you know, when a reporter came up to and she goes, do you know how insensitive it is to joke about that? He's like, it's just a joke. It's a, it's a joke. I'm not calling for. You know what I mean? So it's like he started it was. And what it did, what it was was somebody had been raped. I forget what the case was, but all he asked was, what was she wearing? Which is funny. You know, it's a funny thing. Nobody wants to. Kind of afraid to say it.

[Brad Binkley]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

And now this guy Portnoy is going off or it's never, okay. How many people have to die? Okay, let's go back in time, Portnoy. Let's stand somebody in front of you and say, how many women have to get raped? That's a, that's a fool's argument. It's not a real argument. How many people have to get raped, Portnoy, before you stop making rape jokes? Like, no, I don't want that. Nobody wants that. But that was the stance he took.

[Raven]

Right.

[Top Lobster]

And that's what got him big.

[Brad Binkley]

Yeah. Now he's seems to be against that because I wonder if they said, what. What is she wearing? They said a yarmulke. If he would have been against his own joke.

[Top Lobster]

Oh.

[Brad Binkley]

Back during that time, that would have.

[Raven]

Been a gut punch. Punch.

[Brad Binkley]

Right. He would have been apologetic for the. The rest of his life. So it's. I guess it's good to be at that other venue and away from all that. It sucks that those people caved in that manner.

[Raven]

Well.

[Brad Binkley]

And we're kind of just not paying attention, I guess.

[Raven]

Yeah. I've been, I'm asking, I've been like, I was asking the. The guy who owns 40% of the town. I was like, I see there's a college here. I don't. I didn't know it was a retarded people college. But I'm like, what's the ideology of the town? And he convinced me, oh, conservative. But when the guy confronted me about Owen Benjamin, he goes, do you know that this guy Benjamin is a racist bigot homophobe? And I go, yeah, I heard that. And then he's like, shocked that I'm not shocked or that I don't give a fuck. And then he goes, he's also an anti Semite. And I was like, well, he's Jewish. And the guy just goes, we can't have him here. So I asked, I asked many times. I told him about the offensive comedy. I asked a thousand times, what's the ideology here? I don't know. I don't want to do. I don't want to fucking deal with you if you are being this way. And these people though, it was, it.

[Top Lobster]

Was kind of our fault. Because what I've realized is that town, even though on paper it reads Christian conservative, the truth of the situation is it's like a microcosm of a red state with a blue city. This is a red town with a blue main street. So all of the people who have sway, all of the business owners, all the employees who have green hair and septum piercings and they're charging, you know, $6 for a coffee made by faggots, this is. These are the people who have the sway.

[Raven]

Well, you got to pay extra for that, David.

[Top Lobster]

You actually do. Is a gay tax pay extra for the hand jobs too. So it's not me clear to.

[Raven]

Not me.

[Top Lobster]

But we didn't. It just didn't read that way on paper. You know what I mean? And like we said to our own detriment. Let me tell you.

[Raven]

No, no, no, no, no. Hold on, Brad. When you ask somebody, are you gay? Over and over, because this is in the heart of what I was asking.

[Brad Binkley]

Do to everybody I meet.

[Raven]

Yes. But like if I ask you 15 times, after a while you're going to be like, I'm not gay. But I literally asked them like, are you guys gay for real? Because I'm bringing business here. Are you gay? You told me no every step of the way until you told me, yes, we're flamingly homosexual.

[Brad Binkley]

I'm like, we just came out of the closet.

[Raven]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

It's crazy point of asking them all the time because you never know where anybody's at. Day to day. Things change, you know, things change.

[Brad Binkley]

And you know, the culture has changed a bit since Trump was elected, but unfortunately with the anti Semite stuff, which Trump ran against, stopping all, not no longer doing all the isms. And then he's like, let's do one more ism just on the, you know, swing it this way. And so that's the one that people are very afraid of.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[Brad Binkley]

And it's crazy to me that nobody ever defines it concretely. You know, it's just kind of a moving definition that you can use to just pin on somebody when they say something that undermines a narrative, in my opinion.

[Top Lobster]

Correct. Yeah. Yeah.

[Raven]

Well, if they want to see anti Semitic, I mean, now you fucking got it. At this point, because before I was just like, we were like, let's fudgeing, find out what the Jews are actually doing. Let's look into their bloodline, let's look into their religion. And it's all pretty awful. But we had nuance. When people said Hitler, bro, I said, no, no, no, Hitler is an occultist. Here are the reasons why. Now I'm kind of like fucking maybe Leesburg, Florida. Like, they don't, like, I don't, I don't know if they realize how much. If I had, if I didn't have as much sense about me, they would have pushed me full blown Stu Peters on them. But like, I still, I'm not going to go there. But still I feel it, you know.

[Top Lobster]

You feel the happens that that's the, the lesson in all of this. It seems glaringly obvious when you suppress speech around a topic that has some veracity, but you don't let dialogue to take place around it. What happens is you build an incredible amount of resentment and that speech goes nowhere. Then all of a sudden when a platform comes along like Twitter and you're suddenly allowed to, and you could talk about whether or not that was engineered, which I think it was to a degree, you're allowed to engage in this dialogue about race, about, you know, Jewishness and their overrepresentation and influential institutions in America. You want to talk about the, the government of Israel and everything now you can do it. But because it's been suppressed, it is a snapback effect. It's disproportionate now. It's, it's blown up much bigger than it ever would have been had there just been normal discourse around it. You know what I mean? But that's not been the case. And so here we are with a, it's another, it's a small example of when you, you stop that speech from taking place. You just build resentment.

[Brad Binkley]

Absolutely.

[Top Lobster]

Obviously, you know, we have cooler heads about us and we're not gonna talk about, you know, building swimming pools with wooden doors or anything like that. But, you know, there is a whole bunch of people that have been pissed off by this. And I don't know if you've seen it, Brad, but the dialogue about this all over Twitter is, is, it's a, you know, it's, it's interesting because it is about cancel culture. And albeit we're not the ones. They didn't cancel Nephilim Death Squad, right? They, they canceled Owen Benjamin. But they did refuse to.

[Raven]

But they did, though. This is when, when you tell me Like, I've told you a bunch of times when you tell me this guy is a racist, bigot, homophobe. And then I think about all the things that I've said and all the things that I've done and all the things that everyone performing has said and has done. I mean, Sam Tripoli has a bit. One of his most famous bits is saying nigger. So it's like, all right, well, what do I. Like, what are you suggesting? If Owen can't perform, he can't make a living, then neither can I. And also, what does that mean? That means that you'd like to take food out of my kid's mouth. And now we're gonna fight. You know, now this is a problem. It's not. It's not just like. Well, politely, you know. No, no, no, no, no. You're coming after me. And all I did was tell the truth. And you know how I know how I know how I told the truth? Because everybody here is fucking laughing at you. Because it's true.

[Top Lobster]

So that's best exemplified in that they wrote an article about us. You know, in their last.

[Brad Binkley]

I read that article.

[Top Lobster]

It's. Sorry, it misrepresents everything. But one of the things that they said in there.

[Raven]

Did you know that there was a terror attack in Boulder, Colorado? These just out of nowhere, they're like.

[Brad Binkley]

They connect it to everything. And it was. It was caused by that. It's just these. These. These leaps in logic that it just. You.

[Top Lobster]

You're not using appeals to emotion.

[Brad Binkley]

Nuance. Yeah. Total appeals to emotion. Just like Hitler wanted them to do.

[Top Lobster]

That's right. Exact. Exactly.

[Raven]

I actually have the article here.

[Top Lobster]

Article.

[Raven]

I'm gonna. I wanna read that. That Just. That paragraph, if I could find it, because it's very funny.

[Brad Binkley]

I mean, it's total mainstream media, Rachel Maddow type of logic.

[Top Lobster]

Exactly. Well, they don't realize that the culture. I do believe that there is a cultural shift happening. I think we're moving away from all of that crap. But it's. This dialogue is taking place online. It's gonna take a little while for it to actually hit. You know, the culture of, like, let's say Main Street. Right. Main street in a town is gonna eventually shift, but it's a little bit behind the ball.

[Brad Binkley]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

While he pulls that up, though, I do wanna say I have it.

[Raven]

I have it. Okay, listen to. These are the. These are the people. I mean, they. From the college across the street, but these are the people that we're dealing with. So they go beyond edgy and Iran. Oh, shit. Like, they have ads because these motherfuckers can't pay their bills anyway. And now I can't even read it. Incredible.

[Top Lobster]

We have a lot of ads.

[Raven]

Yeah, we do.

[Brad Binkley]

What I found that works sometimes is because they'll edit their articles. People with paywalls is if you copy and paste the link and you can plug in the Wayback Machine.

[Raven]

Oh, I've already screenshotted all of it, but I was just. I had it pulled up here, so I was like, oh, maybe I can read it. And of course it'll, you know, timeout.

[Brad Binkley]

So they don't. They just want to tease why they're not letting someone do a show there. But you have to pay to find out for sure.

[Raven]

Okay, here it is.

[Top Lobster]

Like, though. Okay, go ahead.

[Raven]

Beyond edgy and ironic, the fringe comedian and podcaster prides himself on cobbling entertainment of out of cultural taboos. It's called comedy. An entire page on the ADL is dedicated to Benjamin, citing instances of racist, anti Semitic and anti LG LGBTQ joke and comments. Benjamin's show. Benjamin's show would have taken place during June, which is Pride month. Also, there was a high profile terror attack this month in Boulder, Colorado. Anyway, and then the next paragraph, the Bohemian Grove 3 show, would have included a podcast. These people are fucking. It's like, who wrote this shit? And you work for a news publication. It's embarrassing.

[Top Lobster]

Unbelievable. They called it Owen's event. It's our event. Owen does cool shit, but damn it, we do cool shit, too. All right, this is Nephilim Death Squad presents.

[Raven]

This was my racist event, not Owens.

[Brad Binkley]

Of course.

[Top Lobster]

One of the things they said, though, to tops point before, where they want to take food out of your family's mouth, they want to keep you from making money. He says, I hope other venues in the area will learn from our, you know, experience here and not book these people. So it's like when they're saying you're racist, you're homophobic, you're anti Semitic, whatever, any of these buzzwords. What they're saying is, we hate you and we hope that you cannot make money, we hope that you suffer, and we hope that you cannot take care of the people who are in your life. That's what they're actually saying to you. And then they're going around and they're virtue signaling to these other venues. But look, man, the good news is we received the bad news on the stage and within.

[Raven]

Oh, wait, there's. There's more, David. Because.

[Top Lobster]

Wait, there's more.

[Raven]

This is the propaganda report. So you guys dabble in like a little bit more political and things like that, not just, not just conspiracy. You want to know how dumb these people are?

[Brad Binkley]

Yes.

[Raven]

Okay. This theater is owned by the city of Leesburg. Okay. Put it together there. They paid $2.4 million for this, for this theater in January.

[Brad Binkley]

They immediately any grants.

[Raven]

Well, it's just city owned. That's it.

[Brad Binkley]

Yeah.

[Raven]

Then they're, they're trying to hide behind this public, private facade where they lease out the theater to the, the theater company director for $150,000 for 50 years. That means $3,000 a year. So I'll let you guys do the math, play the jeopardy music, Right? It's on top of that he immediately reaches out to this rag newspaper to write this hit piece about us. But in it he admits to booking us. The mayor is quoted and as saying we can't have this here. Dustin is quoted as saying, we can't have this here. And it's a clear and cut case of a violation of the first Amendment. So you're not just admitting that you booked us, that there was an agreement to have us here. You're also admitting that the governor or the mayor of the town had a say in what happened here. It's a state institution. It's a fucking problem. These guys are so dumb, it's crazy.

[Brad Binkley]

Local politics is probably more corrupt, just not as sophisticated and well funded as, as you know, federal politics because people don't pay much attention to it. That's why the commies can go to these different towns and take over your school boards and you know, push back against things. They don't. So all of a sudden when Trump gets elected, you have all the, all these commies are now they advocate for local power to, so they can tell the schools to not stop with the, the, the trans stuff and to not stop at all. Right. The curriculum and whatnot. And so they go and you can win elections at the local level. This is what the communists did. Like they were. They took over administrative positions so that they could control these towns and try and turn them, you know, red from the inside out. And yeah, that's. That sounds like the same type of bullshit that I've seen in Atlanta where so you have a lot of theaters here that are just, they're just openly flaming, which that's kind of the culture when you get closer to Atlanta, but not everywhere. But taking it further with some of the money they took, which that's taxpayer owned that theater. So you said it was, you said it was like blue on Main street, but it's kind of red around. So it would seem like they went against what the people of that town would have wanted by giving into the influence of the mayor. What happened here with some of these improv theaters is they got like eighty hundred thousand dollars worth of federal grants back during the COVID days so that they could push the vaccine. And they were required to sign people up for the vaccine and to do vaccines. You know, remember Colbert with the dancing syringes?

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brad Binkley]

So they're getting paid off to do that type of shit at the federal level. And you have here, they're getting paid off. Government is such bullshit. And they're pussies.

[Top Lobster]

Like you said. It's like people don't look that closely at local politics. And then you have to imagine, even if it is a red town, these people have lived there for a long time. They just want to be left alone. They're not worried about the comings and goings of their local Main Street. You know what I mean?

[Raven]

All these guys, they're all Republicans as well, so. But it's just like, you know, they go there, they vote down the line R because we can't have the D's. And then the R is actually. Are the D's or they're the J's.

[Brad Binkley]

Right.

[Raven]

Which happens to be all the time. Every single time. And then you get your event canceled. And that's what happens.

[Top Lobster]

So.

[Brad Binkley]

Yeah, yeah. And. And they're not. They're so focused on the Trump show, you know? Yeah, the celebrating the Trump's. Like, how about the Hillary Clinton list? And they're like, yeah, they're not looking at what's going on.

[Top Lobster]

They're not looking at the faggot who's making their coffee. They're just.

[Brad Binkley]

Hey.

[Top Lobster]

They're going. What they're looking at is like, why is this coffee cost $6? I don't know why the coffee cost $6, but fine, I guess. But look, man, we got the news and. And I'm proud of how we handled it because we immediately shifted our focus to what the next move was. And the next move was, we will see if we have some influence in that town. We have some friends. We tried to see if we could leverage our influence. It didn't work. And we said, okay, no, no, no.

[Raven]

We don't just have influence in the town. My neighbor owns 40% of the town of the money. He called the mayor himself. They said, we can't have it. He said, you're affecting my business. This is going to go out to hundreds of thousands of people in a bad way. They don't even care. He said, this is a first amendment right. This is a first amendment rights violation. They said, we don't care. So that's how deep rooted the ideology is with these people. And I kind of respect them for it because, you know, conservatives, conservatives out here doing fucking drag queen style, drag queen story hour. You know, where are your. Where are your principles? Where are your morals? Well, I know where mine are now. And they're quite anti LGBTQ.

[Top Lobster]

This guy, he, you know, his neighbor who owns 40% of the place, he got his ass kicked in when Covid hit, right? He made all these investments, and then of course, the whole world shut down. And. And he's been trying to get this. This town to be a bit of a destination spot for a while now. So he links up with us. He's got a lot of the same values. He also enjoys a lot of the same people, right? Like he likes Kill Tony. I think he even likes Legion of Skanks. And so we gotta go, okay, this is. This guy. We can work with this guy, right?

[Brad Binkley]

And when he likes Kill Tony and Legion of Skanks, this guy does any. That's crazy.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, yeah, he's a fan. You know, he knew.

[Brad Binkley]

You're talking about the guy, the joke joint of the other guy.

[Top Lobster]

No, not the joke joint. The guy who owns 40% of this town. Who on our side, who was going to be able to help, right?

[Brad Binkley]

So he's trying to help you guys out.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this guy, you know, he owns so many different businesses, he wants to see them flourish. And we say, look, man, we can bring culture to your town. We can bring in these big name comedians that's going to generate all kinds of business, right? We were already setting up relationships with the local restaurants. Can you. House. Dude, there's 240 people. When they. When they pour out into the streets and all this other stuff, there's. There are things.

[Raven]

There are people coming from Australia, Denmark, Norway, South America, fucking probably. I think there's one person coming from somewhere in Europe. Like, I don't even really care that much about Europe.

[Top Lobster]

And I'm like, you disgusting. People from Canada.

[Raven]

And then all over America as well. California, a lot of people from Florida, obviously, But then all the surrounding states, they're coming from everywhere to your little shithole town that nobody knows the name of. Yeah. And you blew. It's kind of crazy, but it's fantastic, actually, how they blew it.

[Top Lobster]

So we Were, you know, we were going to. Everybody was going to eat off of this. This was going to. A rising tide raises all ships. We were going to try to help this guy. He was going to help us. Right. That's not a bad deal.

[Raven]

I'm not gay. I can't do it.

[Top Lobster]

Soft mayor, though. It's a. It's a mayor and a cow. Council of five, you know, so there's other people advising them, but this is. Obviously flew in the flow, in the coop. There's no. This isn't going to happen anymore. So the guy who owns 40% of the town, he's pissed. He's pissed. And these people, they think that they have entertainers or performers or they're going to put on events and this is going to somehow generate. It's not going to generate what we were going to generate. What we were offering to these people was going to be above and beyond what they had the capabilities of pulling off themselves. So.

[Brad Binkley]

Well, the entertainment that is so sensitive to that, that is worried about crossing the line. It sucks.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah. Yeah, it is. It's trash. It's trash. So you're not gonna. You're not gonna do what you think you're gonna do there. And unfortunately, that is, you know, that's gone now.

[Raven]

But now they'll be fine. They'll do. They'll fucking do, you know, Peter Pan and they'll get 40 people and that'll be that. Whatever, you know, but it's just a. It's a shame because they'll get by.

[Brad Binkley]

They won't be selling out. But that's what a lot of these Cedars do.

[Raven]

Yeah, they're gonna. They're gonna operate off of a loss. They paid $2.4 million. The city paid $2.4. Million million. They'll be lucky to cover their $3,000 a year lease with the profit that they make. But them. So whatever, go ahead.

[Brad Binkley]

Yeah, they're betting on the politics of it and like you said, trying to virtue signal and show it off. There was this thing during the. When was it. It was. I think it was right before the pandemic. It was called grab your wallet. And it was this activist group that kept a list of all of these people who had supported Trump or just not condemned him. They had a whole spreadsheet and it said what they did and it said where to go target them with all these activists. And it said what this person needed to do to get off of their list. And it's like grovel and apologize and it was just crazy. They just target all these people who have nothing in their lives, don't have a purpose to pursue, and they get them all filled up with this propaganda and they direct that anger towards these people who they have convinced them are causing some sort of pain in their lives or the lives around them. And in this case, I think, you know, I don't want to blame it on Trump, but I think the anti Semitism thing might have been the main driver.

[Top Lobster]

I mean, it definitely was the main driver. The guy there, the theater director himself, he was Jewish and he had a little LGBTQ employee. It just was never going to work out there. And look, honestly, we're blessed to have figured it out because had we not, let's say, worst case scenario, because these people don't even realize that they're committing a first Amendment violation right in a city owned venue, taxpayer funded venue, they might have gone as far as to violate whatever contract that we had. And let's say they came to us after day one, after seeing, you know, the horrors of whatever we were going to do there, and they said, hey, you can't come back here tomorrow. What a nightmare that would have been. 240 people to try to relocate all these performers, find a new venue in under 20. It would not have been good. And so I'm glad that it was a little late in the game when this happened, but ultimately it doesn't matter because we did the right thing. We readjusted and we found a new venue in under 24 hours. We found a venue that seats 500 now instead of 240. I don't know if we could fill it out. We're not that cool. But especially this late in the game, it would have been nice to have promoted, you know, that sort of a thing for a long time. But the point is here we adjusted. And no matter what they did, they could wish that the other venues in the areas didn't take us on. They did. They took us on in under 24 hours. We figured this out in a pretty unbelievable, I would say, a miraculous way. And when I. This isn't a story about getting canceled. This is a story about, like, you can't cancel us. That that time is gone. There are relics. There are people who are left over who are still in that mindset of cancel culture. And you can't do this here because it's racist and it's homophobic and all that other in the month of June.

[Brad Binkley]

But can you believe it?

[Top Lobster]

Can you believe people just, it's a terrorist attack.

[Brad Binkley]

The, the day After Juneteenth, that was on purpose.

[Top Lobster]

But it didn't work. And we're still going on, we're still gonna do it. And, and really all it did was make this event a lot bigger. To be perfectly honest, I'm not advocating for this. And, and it's, it's done already, so there's no reason to do it. But people reached out in mass. I mean they received one phone call from one person that was like, are you going to have an anti Semite there? And when this thing fell apart because of that, they received 100 phone calls from 100 people. People telling him, we know a guy that was going to bring his lift business, a mechanic shop, he has a lift business. He was going to bring it to Leesburg, Florida to be. Because he wanted to be a part of this culture. He's not doing that anymore. There's another guy who's gonna bring his business there. He's not doing that anymore. They were calling these places and they're saying, how can we in good faith bring our business there? What happens when you find out I'm a fan of Owen Benjamin? Are you gonna cancel me? Are you gonna stop my business? Right. Because I've gone to your town to try to help you prosper and try to be a part of this big thing. Now I can't do it. They were freaking out. They made an article about it. They have a Facebook page. If you look at the Facebook pages, comment section, it's a nightmare for them. It's a PR nightmare.

[Brad Binkley]

It's so, it's great. It's the same shit. It's these people banking on virtue signaling over their economic well being and economic well being of the town around them. It's wild.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, well, you might be able to pull that off in a city, but when you're a small town, you know that's not going to, nobody's going to swoop in to save you. There's no federal funding getting poured in there for this and that kind of program. Like it's not happening. So, so now they're just. And we get to move on and we get to do something incredible. So yeah, man, it's, it's, it's a pleasure to be a part of this thing that I think we, we stood our ground. We did the right thing. We didn't crumble. We didn't say, oh no, they're not going to have us because Owen's an anti Semite. We didn't turn to Owen and say, Owen, I know that you keep it Clean. Yeah. None of that. None of that. Not a single. We've not told anybody what material they can and can't do. Not a single ounce of that has happened. And we didn't turn to Owen, who, you know, was kind enough to offer to be a part of this after not being off his, you know, his. His farm in five years. We didn't turn to him and say, hey, I don't think you could be a part of this. We said, you. We're going to keep doing this because we couldn't. You know, maybe we could have went, we could have groveled and we could have apologized, but instead, right, we move the on and that was it. Because.

[Brad Binkley]

Yeah, finding. Finding people that are okay, like, okay with, like, knowing full disclosure of what type of show you're doing is every. Everything about you. That's. That's the way to go. Like, some of my friends are. They're like in. In the closet Republicans or libertarians, and they're. They're like comedians or actors, and. And they keep trying to, like, fit into this progressive world. And I'm just like, we know someone like that, right? I'm telling. I'm like, if you just be bold about what you're doing, you can go. There's people who will cast you or work with you that will embrace that, and they're just not there ready to take that jump yet. But it's just so much easier to not have to just worry about walking on eggshells and all that bullshit, I'll tell you.

[Raven]

So that's the.

[Top Lobster]

That we're that brave. I think we know where this is going. We've made a calculated decision, and we can see this cultural shift and it's swinging in the other direction. And so I. I don't think that this was, you know, to do it six years ago, five years ago, four years ago would have been brave to do this. Now I think we're just reading the writing on the wall and we know.

[Raven]

Where the culture to do this now is obvious, you know, but what you're just. Yeah, what you're describing is the. The crux of the second part of the drama where I guess Sam Tripoli on his show. I listened to his show today. He was like, is this even happening anymore? Because, like, now there's a breakup in the tower gang and dangerous retards and all this. It's. Because it was that idea of not just negotiating isn't a good word, but I feel like. Like having a. A dialogue with these people. Like, what do you. What. What did they want from you when they made the list of all the Trump supporters? Oh, well, if you want to perform here, then you've got to. You've got to grovel, right? So the guy told me numerous times, we can't do it. If Owen will be here, we can't do it. And immediately I say, well, then it's not going to happen. But I don't tell him that. I just go, okay, interesting. Like, where are you getting it from? And he explains to me that it's coming from over his head. It's coming from the mayor. So I go, well, why am I talking to a fat, gay Jew in a theater if it's, you know, the mayor? So I go, I tell those guys, and then we leave. And I guess the issue between Clint and me is that Clint thought he could have negotiated us back into the theater. I never. After that happened, I'm like, you want to go back there? It's uncomfortable. You want to go and perform in this place? Like, I don't really want to. We. We explored another avenue. They told the guy with the millions of dollars invested to go himself. There's nowhere to really go from there. And then you know that.

[Brad Binkley]

Cause you have that eye watching you the whole time.

[Raven]

Yeah, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna operate like that. This is 2025.

[Top Lobster]

So do we want them to profit off of what we're doing? And I think that's a question that we really have to ask ourselves. Do we want people that are ideologically opposed to us, who would go to whatever lengths possible to try to make sure, like I said, we cannot feed our families, we cannot support ourselves, we can't do business here? Do we want them, even though they just said all these things to us, to reassess the situation and go, you know what? Maybe there is some money to be made off these guys?

[Raven]

Yeah.

[Brad Binkley]

Yeah. So they, you know, they have. They've been convinced that perverse incentives is like the ESG shit where they. You had all these companies doing this shit for a while because they were get. Of course this place ain't getting BlackRock money, but BlackRock is, like, literally paying them more money than they're going to get from their customers because they're going to lose their customers, so they have to count on getting more BlackRock money. These people are just stupid. It sounds like.

[Raven]

Yeah, but it's also, like, an ideological thing. I've been looking at this for so long. How long have. I mean, you and Monica Perez been talking about this, like, years and years and years, and we've seen example after example, and now here I am. And I never intended to even do any of this. Like, my intention was I would have liked to make T shirts and design for, like, thumbnails and logos for podcasts. But to be honest, I went on Tim Pool accidentally, and I was like, everybody here fucking sucks. And I do this better. So then I did it better, and. But now I'm here doing this, and now I'm presented with this. I guess it's an opportunity, or it's like, well, here's the shit that you've been listening to and looking at and reading about for six years or eight years. What are you gonna do?

[Brad Binkley]

Right?

[Raven]

I know exactly what I'm gonna do.

[Brad Binkley]

Yeah, it's that. It's. It's like the last remaining fight for that. That part of. Part of the culture you. You mentioned a little while ago, Raven, you said that it's. They're behind, and you guys are talking about seeing the writing on the wall. I saw this article the other day. It's like a week ago. I think that it was. I think it was NBC News or Politico or something like that. And it was R word reemerging, like retard. I mean, that has. That has been back for a long time. You guys are way behind.

[Top Lobster]

Yep.

[Raven]

Did it ever go away?

[Top Lobster]

CNN article, and it was talking about the. The reemergence of the R. Slur, I think, is what they.

[Brad Binkley]

Slur. Yes, that is what it said.

[Top Lobster]

And. And I like to think that, you know, people like us on this show here, we played a little role in that. And that was even a bit of hedging the bet. Right. It was like, we're gonna move culture in a direction where we want it to move. Because really, what this is about, I think I talked about at the top of the show this idea of suppressing speech, suppressing dialogue. And the dialogue doesn't go away, and all it does is build resentment, and then it explodes when the dialogue finally takes place. That's not healthy. And so when you call somebody an ableist, let's say, for saying. And you try to stop their speech, you don't make an ally, you don't make a friend. You don't make the problem go away or what you perceive as a problem, all you do is piss people off. And then what happens is you have a explosion when it finally takes place. So I think moving the direction in a. In a. Or moving the culture in a direction that is maybe more reminiscent of Say, like when I was younger, Chappelle's show was really big. And I think what Chappelle show did pretty masterfully was, in my opinion, we were at one of the lowest points for actual hatred, racial hatred and things like that in American culture. And the reason being is because we could all laugh at each other. It was okay. And we could all laugh at ourselves. So Chappelle was doing bits where he was making fun of black people, but he was making fun of white people and he was making fun of Spanish people, and everybody was getting it. And we were all laughing at each other, but we were also laughing at ourselves. And that takes the edge off. You're allowed to engage in this dialogue.

[Brad Binkley]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

But the second you go, not anymore, asshole. Also, when you do it disproportionately, right. Where it's like sort of not anymore, really, it's just off the table for white people because black people still get to engage in it. Right. It's just white people that aren't allowed to engage in a. Gay people are allowed to engage in just straight people that aren't allowed to engage in it. Right then now, now you're really amplifying that resentment. And I think that's what you get now where we're in the middle of a race war of some sort. Right. It's like it's going off in such a big way. And it's because in my opinion, somebody who knew how to do it engineered this. It looks engineered.

[Brad Binkley]

Oh, totally.

[Top Lobster]

In my opinion.

[Brad Binkley]

So I go, they've used Race to engineer that stuff. They try to. And they continue trying to use that. Identity politics and.

[Top Lobster]

Yep.

[Brad Binkley]

And emotionally charging those words because our brains are like programmable computers. And you pump this messaging in and have so much contact with us constantly now with all of the screens, more so than Edward Bernays is rock hard in his grave over what's going on right now. This type of stuff and that emotional power to those words, the subjective feeling that people perceive to have based on what a word that they're told is supposed to be hurtful. They may not have ever heard the word before, but they hear it 50,000 times over the next four weeks. Then all of a sudden they hear it and they feel emotional and maybe even physical pain. And that's. That's the idea of programming it. Tony Robbins, he did this. These trainings, you know, guy, I can't remember. He like, builds confidence and I can't remember what that type of NLP or something like that.

[Top Lobster]

You're talking about the giant, right? The dude.

[Brad Binkley]

Yeah, the giant guy was like a square brick building is ahead.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, he's like a Great Dane of a human, right? Yeah.

[Brad Binkley]

He was doing this training years ago, and he tells everybody to get up, and they all stand up and he tells them. He starts saying. He says, like, a list of like, 10 slurs, like any slur you can think of. And he makes all of them shout it out and scream it out. And the whole purpose of it was to take the power away from the word and the power that it has over you. It was actually a really great exercise. And of course, last year I saw. I think it was cnn, they said old video reemerges of Tony Robbins saying the N word. I'm like, he was helping people not be controlled by it.

[Top Lobster]

That's exactly what's happening, though. People are controlled by it. They're ideologically captured by these, like, trigger words. It's almost like Manchurian Candidate, right, Where you say a word and it evokes the exact reaction that you've programmed in them. And so in my estimation, the only way, and I guess it's in alignment with Tony Robbins, the only way to remedy that is, is to engage in it. So what people perceive on Twitter, my dialogue, if I'm. If I'm saying the N word or I'm saying any of these words, they think that that means because of their programming, I hate somebody, right? I hate another race or I hate another, you know, ethnicity, or I hate another religion or something like that. I don't hate anybody. I don't have time to hate anybody. That's not in me. I'm not thinking about anybody to hate them. That's not something that I have within me. But what I am doing, number one, is telling you you're not going to tell me what I can and can't say. That's ridiculous notion. The idea that you can come along and tell me what I can and can't say is retarded. But I'm also trying to deaden that, because what happens is you show up to my show. I do another show called Timeline Cleanse, where, like, the audience really gets to know me really well because I interact directly with them on the chat. I pull their things up, they send me content. I talk directly to these people. They know who I am. Because you can't really hide for hours at a time, right? You know, over the course of a week or whatever. So you find out that I'm not actually this. This hateful, racist, terrible person. But I'm saying these words Right. So then you're forced to, if you're logical, if you're a critical thinker, try to square those two. And the only way you could square it is to go, well, I guess these words don't mean hatred.

[Brad Binkley]

You're inducing cognitive dissonance and changing the way that they're thinking about it.

[Top Lobster]

Hopefully.

[Brad Binkley]

Hopefully.

[Top Lobster]

Either that or they're there because they're like black people. Am I right?

[Brad Binkley]

You're right. Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[Brad Binkley]

Gotta watch for this.

[Raven]

That's about 25 of the audience.

[Brad Binkley]

Absolutely. That is funny.

[Raven]

I want to, I want to address the. In your chat for a second. There's a guy here. We'll just call him out. Lance Weinstrong. He's making, he. Well, I guess Owen. Owen might have heard him irl. And he's making the argument that he says, look at how he broke this group up. He's a destructive, lying narcissist. That fits your narrative. But the reality is that there are things that are happening anyway and then there are people who just are the fire that, that, that come through and whatever is not sopped with water or deeply rooted in the ground and has a good base will burn off.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[Raven]

And that's what happened here. So just want to get that out there. All the, you know, I understand there's a lot of people that hate Owen Benjamin. Whatever. I think he's a nice guy and we invited him to perform stand up comedy because he is a good stand up comedian. One of my favorite for a long time. Yeah, you could, you could think what you want about him, but he's funny, so he's going to do jokes. But the, the matter of the reality is that it had nothing to do with Owen Benjamin. He was just the spark that ignited, ignited the fire. It was a cancellation. And when you're, when you met face to face with cancel culture or the thing that you've been railing against for, since you've had a Twitter account. Well, here it is in real life. What are you gonna do? You're gonna fold, you're gonna negotiate? What are you gonna do? That's the choice. Are you gonna quit? You know, this is, and I'm being completely serious, that's what it comes down to. So if you were gonna quit, if you were gonna negotiate with retard gay terrorists, I don't know, what have you learned?

[Brad Binkley]

It's. It's terrorism. It's. They set language landmines, these identity politics, and they never, they're never concretely defined things and they convince people to use it. And not realizing it's eventually going to come for them, and it will. So if you give them that power, that power will be used against you. Frighten me. I completely agree with this sentiment here. He says, I think the school system set up to destroy critical thinking. Absolutely. The school system is set up to make people fall in line and follow orders and to punish people who think creative creatively and step outside that line. Meanwhile, the children of these elites are going to these boarding schools that are teaching them to be organizers and, and to control all those people.

[Top Lobster]

So all these ideologies, they enter the culture in two ways. For the adult, they enter through media, and for the children, they enter through media in academia. And so, like, if you look at kids, obviously it's super prevalent in the schools, in high school especially, and then colleges, like we all remember, you know, that's where we used to actually like Jordan Peterson and, and what he was doing on college campuses. But if you look to, you know, adults, if you look to women in particular, if you look to their media, all of that subversive ideology is inserted in there. So if they have a show, their favorite show on Netflix, they're. They're going to have a polyamorous, you know, love group. They're going to the, the two father, you know, home household. They're going to have the lovable trans character. These people don't exist in real life in any real meaningful way. And they certainly don't exist in media that is for men, but they do exist in media that is for women. And then women, of course, are the. This is just the fact of the matter. Low information, high emotion voters that are manipulated by this and then they go out and they vote in a way that actually implements all of the shit that ails us. Now. It's like the same thing with the migrant crisis. I've been talking about it for a while. All of this is programming. You look at the migrant crisis, it's like when we were younger. How old are you, Brad? I'm 44, so I know that when I'm 34. So. So did you say 34 or 44?

[Brad Binkley]

I said 44.

[Top Lobster]

You look great for 44. So when I was younger, we were inundated with this idea of like rioting, you know, it was, it was in your video games, it was in your movies, it was in your music videos, it was in your music. It was, it was virtually everywhere. All the good books, all the good shows. There was always like civil unrest. And that was something that we almost were programmed to anticipate. At some point. And then what they did was they started to do these appeals to emotion. So they took your low information, high emotional voters and they showed them children in cages and all this other shit. So what happens is you now go out and you vote for the very thing that you were programmed with when you were younger. When it actually shows itself, there's a pattern recognition that's happening. You have a file cabinet in your head marked fucking civil unrest and riots. And so when you see it taking place, it doesn't strike you as unnatural, even though it's totally inorganic, because this was all a long plot. You look at it and you register it as, you know, a pattern that you recognize. And then what happens is you fall into this binary that they set up for you. You're either the old school programming which taught you to be on the side of the rioters, or you're the new school programming which teaches you to be on the side of the feds, right? So you're voting for like martial law and like that. And that new school programming, I think, is exactly what's taking place on Twitter with Elon Musk, right, Where we're talking about that pressure cooker effect, suppressing speech surrounding race and shit like that. And then all of a sudden, boom, cracking it open, allowing everybody to engage in that dialogue on X. And then there's a disproportionate blowback. It's bigger now than it ever would have been. Now we're all pissed off at the immigrants, now we're all pissed off at the blacks now. Da da, da. We've watched Black Lives Matter. This Soros funded thing where they're putting fucking pallets of bricks on the, on the sidewalk. And then you look at the, the higher ups in Black Lives Matter and what are they doing? They're taking all the funding and they're buying fucking mansions for it. So anybody who's paying attention enough. I'm not saying you're paying attention a lot. You're paying attention enough to know that this was all a sham, right? So when it shows its face again, the new programming has you fall into this part of the, the dynamic. Now you're voting for. I never thought, dude, all those years ago when I was like a young conspiracy theorist and even playing the games where there was like civil unrest and that I would ever see the day where anybody was voting for the feds, voting for martial law. I thought like, you know, we. Because I was an idiot too. I was like, we'd be in the streets, firebombing the feds or what the hell ever. Because that's what my shows and my video games and my music videos taught me. I never would have thought we were gotten here. But given the state of the Biden administration and all that shit and everything that took place with Black Lives Matter, and then this. This porous border that we voted for, now if you're paying attention, you're in favor of the martial law in the Feds. It's a fucking unbelievable dynamic, but this is how it works. They funnel you into these binaries.

[Raven]

Yeah.

[Brad Binkley]

And they. So they have these language landmines they create. You step on them, it triggers these certain emotions and feelings. And you can do the programming when people are kids before we develop our critical thinking. And it's embedded deep within us. And so there's a book called Thinking Fast and Slow that the CIA recommends. Their agents, they have their agents read, which talks about this. System one thinking is your. It's like your automatic response to a snake, you know, when we're hunters and gatherers, except it's, like, programmed into you when you're a kid so you can. System 2 think is when you're using your cognitive resources, and we have a limited amount of those. So you have to do something over and over again for a system 2 thought or activity to become system 1, to become automatic and reflexive. And so that's kind of a. It's a great way to see how they control people. And there's a bunch of different social experiments in there about triggering System one and changing a System one unconscious thought that can be triggered by anything in the media into something different. It requires, like, a really conscious effort to recognize that pattern. And then you have to do something that creates a new node in your brain that becomes more powerful than that. And the guy won a Nobel Prize that wrote it. Most people don't know about that book, but it's all about programming of the brain and what you're talking about there. And when it comes to Trump and people supporting martial law and stuff like that, they've gotten a lot of people on the right to just be really enthusiastic about things that they completely would have rejected had it come from the mouth of Kamala Harris or Joe Biden. Yeah, it's a little crazy.

[Top Lobster]

It's. It's. It's. I mean, I guess that's cognitive dissonance. Right?

[Raven]

It's.

[Top Lobster]

It's incredible how people don't see that now. It's kind of the same thing when we were going through on Twitter. I Guess right before the election, we were talking, everybody was like, really reaching the. The jq, you know, peak. It was crescendoing this. This Jew noticing topic. And it was, you know, all this open dialogue about Israel's disproportionate influence in our own government. And. And then we're showing you all these politicians who are kissing the wall and wearing a yarmulke and. And have dual citizenship. It's a huge conversation that's taking place just before the election. Then what happens is Donald Trump ends up getting, like, what was it, 34 accusations levied against him. One of them was a felony. They all fell apart.

[Brad Binkley]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

But it was clear to the right and the Republicans and the based critical thinkers that these accusations were just another attempt to besmirch sweet, sweet Donald Trump. And so all of a sudden, it galvanized people to him in a huge way. And there was no more talk about Donald Trump being at the wall, wearing the yarmulke, kissing it. There was no talk about him receiving this. What was it, the silver crown from the rabbinic Jews? There's no talk about him on that. That token that they commissioned. It's him and King Cyrus. You know, there's. There's no talk about how much Israel loved Donald Trump at the time and. And how, you know, tied in he was. That all just went away. And it's like, that was my. Not my. It wasn't like the moment that I woke up to it at all, but it was like, as a conspiracy theorist, I found that the right was in alignment with me for the first time in a long time. So, you know, it's the right that's talking about Epstein. It's the right that's talking about this thing or that thing. And these are things that are, you know, things that are on my radar. And now I'm kind of happy to look over and see that they're on other people's radars. But then I realized, like, no, these guys are still locked in to that system because all it took was something paper thin getting tossed at Donald Trump for them to go, it's not fair. And then to just drop. And I'm going, hey, but what about. What about this? And it's a picture of him kissing the wall. And they're like, we don't give a fuck about that. I'm like, what about this? And it's a commission coin with him and King Cyrus. We don't fucking care, because they love.

[Brad Binkley]

Him as a person. You know, like, it's the he's the perfect personality for the demographics that he won over, is he. He does this seesaw where he, he says that you just love, well, free Ross. But then he, then he goes over with, you know, he's kissing or put. Pushing the chair in for BB Netanyahu.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[Brad Binkley]

And all that. It's like, look over here, look over there.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah. And so that was, to me, that was a real tell where I was like, oh, the people that are in alignment with me right now, they were never, they just fucked with me because they thought I was a Trump guy. But that's only because we had shared values at the time, which were conspiratorial. They were never party line values. For me, I never gave a shit about politics. I just gave a shit about conspiracy, which has a tremendous amount of overlap, obviously. But those people just, they just fell away. And, and now I, you know, I guess they're all just on the Trump train. Some, you know, some people, they go back and forth and I get it. But I do really believe that at the highest levels, politics is theater. You know, once you get up there real high, it's like there's no voting your way out of anything. There's a series of events that are going to take place, and all you can do as a, as an individual is kind of like, kind of make an educated guess about where things are going to go in the theater of it all, but you're not going to affect it.

[Brad Binkley]

Right. And watching some of them try and get better at modern theater, it's so cringeworthy. Somebody like Nancy Mays who can't take a photo without showing her tits, no matter the issue. You know, she's like, I fight Davy Crockett of the women's bathroom at Congress there. And she's taking a picture, just her tits are in there. She's seriously, like one election loss from being an Instagram model. And you have the girl who jerked the guy off in the, in the theater is dating Kid Rock now. You got all these realities. It's like the weirdest thing.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[Brad Binkley]

And they just do these videos and these stunts and shit. And I'm like, just shut up. Just shut the fuck up and stop being so gay. It's. I don't know how people buy some of this stuff. Nancy Mace walking down the street. There's like a video of her once a week just going, I stand with Israel. Israel has a right to exist. I'm like, that's such a, such a controlled, stupid thing. Nobody's saying they're not. It's just a little bit of like you said in a tweet the other, I think yesterday or maybe the day before top about you don't like Israel but you don't like seeing em bombed because you're thinking with nuance. And all of this destroys nuance. The propaganda that they're pushing on us and that's what they fear the most is nuanced critical thinking.

[Top Lobster]

You know what's funny about that top is that was a three lined tweet. I don't like Israel. I don't want to see them get bombed though. I am a nuanced thinker.

[Raven]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

And I don't know why. It was hilarious because it felt like a joke but it was like it's not a joke. It's, it's not even structured really like a joke. It's a statement that is reasonable and it's funny because everybody is incredibly unreasonable right now.

[Raven]

What I, what I didn't add into it like just to keep the brevity of it was also, I don't care, I don't want to see them. So don't put it on my fucking timeline. But like whatever. I had to see you guys blowing up babies for the last year or so. So I guess if you get your sex shop blown up, whatever, I don't know, I just don't want to see it. You know. Keep your shit over there.

[Top Lobster]

A video of a guy, he, I think he's in like Tel Aviv and they're in a bomb shelter and he is showing you, he's like, we are in a bomb shelter and I am here with all these sexy men. They're all, they're all gay. And he's just like telling you that as the city gets bombed and everyone dies only several feet above his head that he is going to be taking back shots from a never ending train of homosexuals in a fucking bomb shelter. And I'm like.

[Brad Binkley]

Caitlyn Jenner was over there also.

[Top Lobster]

What's that?

[Brad Binkley]

Caitlyn Jenner was over there in one of those bomb shelters too.

[Top Lobster]

Is that real? That's not real.

[Brad Binkley]

Caitlyn. There's shit of Caitlyn Jenner. I don't know if she was in that one, but she did go over there.

[Raven]

Yeah, they got stuck there. They, them.

[Top Lobster]

Oh. So Caitlyn Jenner's taking back shots in a Tel Aviv bomb shelter right now.

[Raven]

The funniest part is that he was over there to help Israel with their, their media issue.

[Brad Binkley]

I guess like a, it's a perfect.

[Raven]

Person how they're being seen in the media. I'm like, damn. And you guys have no clue like that Tim Pool, Caitlyn Jenner, that's who you're reaching out to. Like, geez, it's over for Israel. You guys are at the bottom.

[Brad Binkley]

Accidentally end up on Tim Pool. By the way, I meant to ask you.

[Raven]

I went on his booker, Cassandra McDonald at the time, which actually kind of funny. She got fired from Tim Cass for. From Will Chamberlain that. The dude that other dudes at cpac. And he also tried to cancel Rohemian Grove. It seems like a very cancellable event, but she booked the Tower Gang guys. So we all went on two by two. It was very boring. Wasn't impressive. I was impressed with what he had built. I wasn't impressed with the. How the show went, how the conversation went, the level of intelligence going back and forth. It was just very boring. Very. Yeah, but I mean, listen, who the am I. Millions of people watch that, so whatever.

[Brad Binkley]

Yeah, his work ethic. I agree with you on that. I. I can't. I don't watch too many of his shows still. It's too predict. Gotten a little too predictable for me.

[Top Lobster]

It wasn't even the predictability for me. It was like there was a time where I was trying to understand politics more because I've gone around for most of my life thinking like, politics is. Is theater. And. And then I. I said, well, look, I can't just say that if I don't really try to understand it. In the past, I tried to understand it. And I went, why is this perfect perfectly, Or, I'm sorry, purposely difficult to understand. That's how I felt about politics. I was like, it's done in such a way that the average person can't understand it.

[Brad Binkley]

Absolutely.

[Top Lobster]

And it's like, yeah, exactly, exactly. And so I gave it a swing and I started watching a bunch of different shows, and one of them was Tim Cast. And, you know, it was interesting because he broke things down in a way where at least I was able to understand. But then what started happening is I would watch him scream, scream at his guests, like, yeah, like this weird, authoritative, kind of dictator character with this beanie on. And he's like slamming his fist and he's screaming about how wrong they are or. And I'm going, what the fuck is this? This is a weird thing. You would never do that to anybody who is sitting in your. I mean, you know, certainly not what I had heard gave him any reason to talk like that. And so it was a couple of Those where I was like, I got to stop fucking listening. This guy's got demons under his beanie. And so I stopped listening to him for a while. And once I detached and I got like a thousand foot overview, I was like, oh, he's kind of a faggot. He's kind of a faggot. That's what's going on here. Yeah.

[Brad Binkley]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

But he's built something remarkable.

[Brad Binkley]

He's definitely got some work ethic. And he started doing it a long time ago, and it was consistent, so he built it up pretty well. So good. Good for him for that. Skateboarding is still gay, in my opinion. So couple more things and then we'll get out here. So have you guys been following the. The Diddy trial? Did you see that Yee showed up? No, who?

[Top Lobster]

I've been following it.

[Brad Binkley]

Yee. Yee. Kanye.

[Raven]

Oh, yay.

[Top Lobster]

Showing up.

[Brad Binkley]

Yay. Yeah. You know, he changed his name again. He changed?

[Top Lobster]

Yeah.

[Brad Binkley]

He showed up to the trial, he changed his name to Yay.

[Top Lobster]

Yay.

[Brad Binkley]

It was Yay West. He changed it officially to Yay. Yay. And he showed up to the trial wearing all white. I remember. So he did the thing where he, he. He made Heil Hitler great again. And then he said, sorry for my anti Semitism, peaced out, and was like, free Diddy. And he shows up to the trial wearing all white. And he didn't get in the first day and he gets in the second day. They let him sit in the overflow room and he sat there with Diddy's son. Because at first I'm like, Diddy might be like, I don't know if I want him in here, but apparently he is there to fully. He was there to fully support Diddy. And it's interesting because the. The day before, he went into the overflow room to watch all white suit. So Diddy's freak off or big parties, people always wearing all white, you know, and there was testimony from one of the Jane does, which is weird because Diddy can see them. So who are they protecting the names from? You know, was testifying about how she was with a celebrity at a freak off session, and it was a famous rapper in Las Vegas. And some of the people inside the courtroom, like, pretty much described Kanye. And then Kanye shows up the next day and sits with Diddy's son in the overflow room. I think Yay. Yay. Was at a few freak off sessions. We might find out.

[Top Lobster]

Well, I want to first start by saying Diddy didn't do it.

[Brad Binkley]

That's almost he didn't do racketeering.

[Top Lobster]

He didn't do the baby oil stuff. That's all misconstrued. It's a big hearsay. I don't think he molested. It's hearsay. Thank you very much.

[Brad Binkley]

So what do you think happened with the baby oil?

[Top Lobster]

I think. I think it was ghb. I don't think it was.

[Brad Binkley]

That's definitely. The cops are keeping all that shit if that's the case.

[Top Lobster]

I don't know. You know what it's like. So with the whole Diddy thing, it's interesting. I don't know that we've gotten any. Any. Have we gotten any allegations of actual human trafficking or is he just butt fucking celebrities? Because.

[Brad Binkley]

No, he's crime. Jerking off in the corner while he's having people have sex and pissing his. His girlfriend's mouth and pretend. And he has his girlfriend's role play as Kobe while the guy who bangs them role plays as Shaq. And that's pretty cool.

[Raven]

I mean, who hasn't? Who hasn't?

[Brad Binkley]

That's true. That's, you know, that's what they're looking for in the jury too. They're like, who here ever role plays? It's like, oh, God, yeah. Just somebody just like me. I don't think that they've made the case. I. I think that. Yeah, I don't think racketeering has been made.

[Top Lobster]

Well, that's my thing is like, if. If there isn't all of this actual human trafficking and all these terrible things taking place, then why. There we. There we go, guys. Diddy defender. I. I myself am a diddy defender. I think Kanye west also is a bit of a diddy defender if he's not trafficking human beings. What the do we think happens at these celebrity parties? I mean, didn't we all think they were on GHB covered slip and slides and, you know, butt each other. I mean, I went on Stu Peter's show once, and he played me the audio of. I suppose at the time he didn't even tell me he was gonna do this. He's just like, we're here with David Corbo to talk about the Diddy case. David, before we get into this, I. I just want you to listen to this. And then he plays I like Meek Mill, Right? He plays well, we thought it was Meek Mill. Apparently it has been bought up in the. Whatever in the case. It's not Meek Mill. It's somebody else. I forget who it was, but Courtney.

[Brad Binkley]

Says he still needs to be locked up for the applesauce on the burgers.

[Top Lobster]

That's diabolical. And I can get behind that. You know, toss him in a cage for that, certainly. But, but if he's not human trafficking. But anyway, so I'm on, I'm on Stu Peter's show. And he goes, you know, before we get into the conversation, David, I want you to hear this. And he just starts playing, yeah, daddy. Yeah, Daddy. And I'm like, what the is going on? It's. And he's telling me it's Meek Mill getting his ass blown out by, by Diddy. And even like, look, that's disgusting and horrifying. But, like, what did we think was going on at the upper echelons of Hollywood in the music industry? We thought this, did we not? I don't understand what the problem is. I don't, I don't see a problem. As long as he's not, he's disgusting and he'll, you know, and, and, you know, God rest his soul, he's gonna burn in hell or whatever. But I don't think credibly, anything can be done here.

[Brad Binkley]

But they're not making the case that for yet anyway. And when you have James, James Comey's daughter as the prosecutor, I, I don't know if they ever intended for him to be convicted. I don't know what example they're trying to set with this. It's definitely, it's entertaining to read the court transcripts and listen to the. I mean, it's, it's funny. It's like. Yeah. You get a glimpse into what, what Diddy was really focused on. Yeah. What about this thing in Minnesota? Did you guys see his images of the guy and like, it looked like a five minute mask before he went in and shot those Democrats.

[Top Lobster]

Oh, yeah, that was, that was Clint Russell. Was it? Not that. You talk about the bald guy with the goatee. He's taking the breakup very hard. It's not going well. He's not processing it the right way. And, and I don't advocate for what he's doing, but my heart goes out to him.

[Brad Binkley]

Yeah.

[Top Lobster]

I hope that he can figure out a different way, a healthier outlet for it. You know what's crazy? We had a guy on our show, Drew Tang reborn. Highly recommend going and checking out his, his Twitter page and he, he believes, like I believe that it's all theater and he looks to the Marvel movies as the predictive programming. Right. Elon Musk being Iron man and there's. I'm telling you, we did a Whole episode on it. The guys got a lot of fucking points. And when you see them all, you go, oh, my God, that happened. Oh, my God, that happened. Like, it's all this weird. In the Marvel movies that are pointing towards Elon Musk as Iron Man. I mean, Robert Downey Jr. In a. In a interview, says he modeled his character of Tony Stark after the mannerisms of Elon, which is not even true. I. And, you know, he's charismatic and entertaining.

[Brad Binkley]

Not even close to Elon, but he.

[Top Lobster]

Says that in this interview. And. And, you know, Elon makes a cameo, and there's all this. There's so many strange coincidences, if you want to call them that. And then, you know, Captain America is Donald Trump. Civil war predicts the contention between them, which, you know, he hung his hat on when he had the. Donald Trump was in the Epstein Files type of situation. But he does that to such a degree that I go, okay, you're on to something. I see what you're saying. And he goes, the next ones that are going to play out are the Purge movies. And then this dude shows up, only not even a week later with a mask on, and he takes out these two senators. You know, it's really hard for me to look over to Drew Tang. I'm telling you guys, go and follow him. He's really on his.

[Brad Binkley]

Check him out.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, Drew Tang, D R U T A N G Reborn. The guy knows his. He's the homie we just had him on. That episode is out on our RSS feed. It's not released otherwise yet, though. But, man, I mean, I think he nailed it. I think he nailed it. So I think what's going on? He. You know what's interesting, he said Purge Forever, which is the last of the films, was the real tell. So when the other Purge movies, there was an alarm that goes off, you know, boo. And then everybody goes out into the streets, they start fucking shit up. And when the alarm goes off again, they go back inside, they stop killing each other.

[Brad Binkley]

Activated.

[Top Lobster]

Yes. And. And then what he says in Purge Forever, the alarm goes off at the end, signaling that it's done, but nobody stops killing people. So the way he sees it is like we were given, you know, Black Lives Matter, whatever, riots. You want to talk about the green light to go out and burn the city down. But then after the cause was done, you know, Trayvon Martin or George Floyd, God rest his soul.

[Raven]

George Floyd.

[Top Lobster]

Sweet George Floyd. Eventually it's done and you go back inside, right? But with the Migrant Crisis, given the the sheer volume of migrants in his. What he said is it's reasonable to think that there's no reason for it to stop. So in other words, you, you purge forever. Because the migrant crisis has reached probably what, millions now that have come across the poorest south southern border. They're not just Mexicans. Everybody says it's Mexicans, but it's like all kinds of things. It's El Salvadorians and Chinese insurgents and all kinds of. But the idea is it's not just one individual anymore. It is a never ending supply of illegal migrants. Therefore, this doesn't have to end. So he lays that out for us and I go, that's very interesting, very compelling. We wrap it up like two days later, all of a sudden, Clint Russell's on somebody's front porch and he's shooting him in the chest with an ar. It's, and I go, man, that is really, that is business acumen. He's wearing a rubber mask and it's a bald guy with a goatee.

[Brad Binkley]

Yeah. How do you open the door if you have a camera? You see that person there?

[Top Lobster]

It's a good question.

[Brad Binkley]

I mean, I, I can't remember who used to do, who did a joke about this recently, but like in the 90s, people would just, people come over joping the door. You'd welcome them in. And you know, nowadays the doorbell rings and people are going, who the is showing up to our house? Like, like, I, I, I just can't imagine seeing. Maybe they didn't look.

[Top Lobster]

When somebody knocks at my door, I turn to my family and I go, right, shut up.

[Brad Binkley]

We don't want them to know the dog can bark, so they, they think that the dog's in there, but they don't want any. You don't want anybody to know that you're there.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah, yeah. And then of course, I go as quietly as I can to the, to the people. So I mean, it's a good question if you're a senator, right? It's, it's, you know, degrees above the average person. You're actually somebody who could potentially be in danger. And you just open the door. I mean, I know he was wearing, you know, a vest and, and, and like a blue sort of like fatigues or something under. So it could almost give you the impression of a police officer.

[Brad Binkley]

But like, it's just, I mean, it's almost Michael Myers like that Matt, you put on the police uniform and that mask. It's like not even trying to make people think that it's real and yet they Open the door.

[Raven]

Did they catch the guy?

[Brad Binkley]

They caught him. They. They say they caught who they're saying did it.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah. What was crazy is when they. When they removed his mask, he was still a bald guy with a goatee, just slightly different. They were like, why?

[Brad Binkley]

There's, like, three of them on. It's, like, just kept doing it.

[Top Lobster]

Yeah. I don't know. To me, it is. It's all optics. It's all theater. And it really does lend itself to, like, you know, once again. Right. That whole concept of, like, civil war. Like, oh, we are in real civil.

[Brad Binkley]

Unrest, like, manifesting that into reality almost.

[Raven]

Yeah.

[Brad Binkley]

So that's why people have to resist the propaganda, to have to resist the urge to satisfy that confirmation bias. That. That can feel so good because. Because if we're being triggered emotionally and we, you know, we're not thinking as critically, and that's when they have the people at their mercy. You guys want to do, like, a quick word association game? I like to do this sometimes. We guess. Let's do word association. You guys do whatever the breath. Top of the dome before we get out of here.

[Top Lobster]

Okay. Let's go back and forth.

[Raven]

Oh, boy. I'm excited.

[Brad Binkley]

All right. Lindsey Graham.

[Raven]

Faggot. Sorry. This is on YouTube, right?

[Brad Binkley]

Yeah. I don't care. I say faggot all the time. Nuclear.

[Top Lobster]

Fake.

[Brad Binkley]

Greta Thunberg.

[Raven]

Big tits. That's like. That's immediately where I go. Just stacked. Just. Yeah, stacked is the word.

[Brad Binkley]

Those babies. Absolutely.

[Raven]

Yeah.

[Brad Binkley]

Soros Jew. No kings.

[Raven]

Kangs. I just think of. Yeah, Kang. Like, you know, Kangs. No kings. Honestly, I didn't even know. I don't even know what the. This. This protest was about. I heard about it, and I said, no kings is like, what is this, like a. I thought it was music. I thought it was an album or something, but everyone's excited.

[Brad Binkley]

That sounds like a new Diddy album.

[Raven]

Yeah. Yeah. And then it just turns out to be a gay parade. I was like, right. Exactly.

[Brad Binkley]

Joe Rogan, tiny.

[Raven]

Oh, no. Yeah.

[Brad Binkley]

Yeah. But he says he's 5 8. I don't know how to buy that, honestly.

[Top Lobster]

He's probably the same size as me. I'm only 5 7. And when I hug Sam Tripoli, I. I did a measurement, right. I saw what my head comes up to in comparison to Sam Tripley. And then I found a picture of Rogan, you know, hugging Sam Tripley. Same, same. Same height.

[Raven]

I don't think. I don't think short. When I think Rogan, I think, like, I go, the fuck are you up to?

[Top Lobster]

Dude, yeah. Like he's doing some MK Ultra shit. I always look at him because he's doing, you know, John C. Lilly does the. The float tanks and his research with the psychedelics and the float tanks informs a lot of like what the CIA is doing with MK Ultra. And then he's.

[Raven]

And he's doing propaganda.

[Brad Binkley]

That program. They ended that program.

[Top Lobster]

Oh, that's right. It doesn't happen many, many years. And then Rogan picked it up and now he started it again.

[Brad Binkley]

But he's doing it because it's good.

[Top Lobster]

Ayahuasca is good. And. And you should be in the sensory deprivation tank too. And maybe. Maybe you should jerk a dolphin off. I don't know.

[Brad Binkley]

Right. Just like Hunter Biden with his. He'd be smoking crack in there and doing foreign policy.

[Top Lobster]

That's for spiritual ascension.

[Raven]

Plastic.

[Brad Binkley]

Time for his dad. Juneteenth. A couple more. Juneteenth.

[Raven]

Oh, Juneteenth. Bohemian Grove. The day before. Bohemian Grove.

[Brad Binkley]

And that was going to be the last one. Bohemian Grove to tell everybody where they can buy tickets, where they can find yalls work.

[Raven]

You can buy tickets at. You can go to toplopsa.com right now. We got some dope T shirts and it's on there. Or you can go to brogrove.com. that's B R O G R O V E. The tickets are on sale. They are still available. We can't sell out because we've got like. We could make this as big as we want to. So go ahead, buy tickets, show up. It's going to be a great event. I know you got some faggots in the chat that don't like Owen Benjamin, but guess what? There's a lot of people there, man. We're gonna have day one. It's starting off with Shane Cashman. He's doing his show. Then we're gonna go on Nephilim Death Squad. We're gonna do our show. Then we have a conspiracy roundtable. It's like an hour and a half. It's going to be hosted by the cult of conspiracy guys, Jonathan and Jacob. So all the people in Florida that are conspiracy creators are actually going to be there. They show up to this shit probably for. This is the third time now that they're going to show up to this.

[Top Lobster]

It's more than that. It's. It's more than people. People that are creators from out. Out of state, they're coming.

[Raven]

They're.

[Top Lobster]

They're flying down. There's gonna be so many people here. Can I just. I want to interrupt you and then you can go on. Everybody's looking at this as like Owen is the big focal. Owen is, you know, a huge component of it. But we've got like, I don't know, 15 different performers or some crazy. When you, when you tally it all up, like this is a huge event. And so, yeah, it's, you know, that's all. Go on, please.

[Raven]

Yeah. So after that we are going to have stand up comedy from one Brad Binkley, which I'm looking forward to. You're going to be opening for Sam Tripley who's closing out that night. And then it gets better because we're coming back the next day. Elijah Schaefer will be opening up the show. Obviously Shane Cashman is our mc so he's going to be coming up in between sets after Elijah Schaefer. We were supposed to have Tower gang but that fell through. So the towers have fallen. So we said what do we do for the people? We got Jake Shields. So Jake Shields is going to be doing his show and we're going to have a lot of fun with it. I think we're going to have a pretty interesting panel. You guys are going to really like it. Oh, you want to read that.

[Top Lobster]

The Jews. So there's that.

[Brad Binkley]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's gonna be. That's good. Very cool. I'm looking forward to it. D's laughs says these last came made the trip down from Canada to go to the show Third Eye Carnival in Tennessee. Are you coming to this one? Ds if you, if you can't these last runs comedy club up in Canada. He says check out top lobster shop love PSYOP Season 1. I have to make an order soon. NDS X propaganda report rocks and salute from Canadian. Owen is a G. He says thank you.

[Top Lobster]

Ds laughs.

[Brad Binkley]

Thank you, September. All right guys, thanks for coming on the show. I'm looking forward to it. Going to be a lot of fun and I'll see you all this weekend and hopefully you guys in the chats can make it. And everybody listening propagandafight.com you can find all my links in bio at Freedom act radio on X. We will talk to you guys next time. You'll have a fantastic rest of yalls day. I think over now it's ended.

[Top Lobster]

The greatest hypnotist on planet earth is.

[Brad Binkley]

A oblong box in the corner of the room.

[Top Lobster]

It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. If you can persuade them that what.

[Raven]

They see with their eyes is what.

[Brad Binkley]

There is to see.

[Raven]

You can't because they'll lack, in the.

[Brad Binkley]

Face of an explanation that portrays the.

[Raven]

Bigger picture of what's happening. And they have.