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Nephilim Death Squad
NDS on Year Zero Podcast: Demons, Giants, and Conspiracies
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In this engaging episode, Tommy chats with David and Top Lobster from the Nephilim Death Squad about a broad range of intriguing topics. They delve into the deep lore and conspiracy theories surrounding Nephilim, biblical giants, and their potential...
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David
And everybody's just walking around heading the clouds.
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Tommy
All right, I'm here with David and Top Lobster from Nephilim Death Squad. What's up, guys? How y'all doing?
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David
What's going on, brother? Top, why don't you take it away first?
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Top Lobster
Yeah, man, it's. It's good to be here with you. I'm gonna. Sorry. I'm doing something here. I don't know what I'm doing. I'm. I'm very, like. I get very distracted with. With things. It's good to be here. Tommy, you were my first. You were my first podcast interview. I came on years ago, this podcast about. I don't know, must have been five years ago, four years ago.
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Tommy
It was. I think it was 2018. Wow.
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Top Lobster
Six years ago. How innocent were we? We thought we were talking about.
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Tommy
I think we talked about Mises, like.
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Top Lobster
We were talking about that matters back then. Now I have returned.
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David
Show started. I was talking to Tommy when you stepped off, and. And he was like, yeah, man. I was his first interview. And then the next thing you know, it's like, tower Gang started. And I was like, oh, my God. And I was like, somebody's going to hold you responsible one day for that.
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Tommy
For what you.
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David
What you added to the world in the form of Tower Gang.
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Tommy
Oh, boy.
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Top Lobster
We just did our first live event for Nephilim, Deskwater, and Tower Gang, and it was, like, right in the middle of Cocktober, which is what, I guess is what the show is going to. This is where the show's going, so I'll tell you. So we're on stage, and Cocktober is when our fans submit their penises to us. And then we rate them on a scale of. It's like a scrum de lumptious scale. So one to scrum de lemptious being the most. And the winner this year had. It was just his penis in a hot dog with mustard on it. And it was. It was on a TV behind us. So there's an entire live audience, and we put it up and there's a TV behind us for about 30 minutes of just this guy's penis next to other hot dogs with mustard. And he's just standing there. And that's what you brought into the world, Tommy. So congratulations. That's your legacy, I guess.
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Tommy
Yes. I. At least I brought some good into the world, man. At least one thing worked out. I had a. I had a buddy of mine years ago, and he was. He would bone and grown because his girl would suck his dick. She just wouldn't do it. And she. She finally got tired of listening to him and she crashed. She tore his pants down in front of everybody, smeared peanut butter all over it, and just started going to town.
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David
Good God. Did he marry her?
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Tommy
Yes.
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David
There you go. That's beautiful. That's a love story.
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Tommy
Wow.
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Top Lobster
Got some interesting friends, man.
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Tommy
Yeah, well, you know, you gotta. You gotta make things. You gotta keep it up and popping, man. It's. Yeah, life's too boring if you don't do like that. But, yeah, it was awesome. It was hilarious.
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Top Lobster
So, Tommy, since then. Since I've been on your podcast, I guess let's run it down. I've created toplopsa.com. i did all the artwork for Josh Smith and his show and some of his campaign because he ran for president or ran for Some shit before president. And then I decided libertarianism is gay. And then I worked for Gas Digital and I did their merchandise and then Skank Fest. And then I decided that I wanted to do a podcast. So besides Tower Game, because I don't really consider that a show. I just consider that something that people shouldn't watch. So I create. We created a Nephilim Death Squad. I met David online and we're like, hey, we're both kind of crazy and we're into the same kind of stuff. And I was doing my show, he was doing his, and we're like, we might as well just do it together, call it something different. So we called it Nephilim Death Squad. And we're about a year in now, I suppose.
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David
Yeah, we just passed the year mark what would have been October, which was wild because a year into it we ended up holding the second annual Bohemian Grove, or I guess semi annual Brohemian Grove, which is a comedy and conspiracy event. It was a two day event. And yeah, so we just did a bunch of wild stuff in. In just one year's time. But yeah, we like top said, kind of met on the Internet, talking the same unhinged schizophrenic conspiracy theories and we went, you know what, dude, I think I like you. And decided that it was worth making a show. And yeah, so we just passed the year mark on it. I think we're about to like 90 episodes in, give or take.
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Top Lobster
We just did episode 80. We just wrapped episode 86. So, yeah, there you go, 86. We did a deep dive on Cliff High, which I don't know. Are you familiar with Cliff High?
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Tommy
I am not.
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Top Lobster
Okay. I think we should maybe touch on that a little bit. Some of his work that's. That might interest you and your viewers. But yeah, we've. We've done two live events. The first one we had Sam Tripoli headline. The second one, Leonardo Joni came down and a bunch of other people like Cult of Conspiracy. It was fun. We're gonna do it again. And I guess this is what we do now. We're doing. I've embraced whatever podcasting is and I'm trying to do the most of it and trying to do. I guess I'm trying to do something like things that are not usual to it. I just. I want to move outside of whatever the box is of podcasting. So we do. I'm doing the merch for it. We're doing artwork for it, but live events, all kinds of stuff. And just seeing where we. Where we land it's been. It's been a fun ride.
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Tommy
So. So tell. Talk about. Let's talk about what is Nephilim Death Death squad. Nephilim is. Is an ancient word taken from biblical text. Genesis, right? Genesis 6. And it was. The fallen angels had taken advantage of human women and had. Their offspring were called the Nephilim. They were known for having what, six fingers, Right? And I know, I know the confessionals, they talk. He talks about the Nephilim a lot over there at the confessionals. But where. Where did the name come from? And what. What is Yalls general topics? I. I find some of your topics very entertaining.
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David
So the name, I'm kind of. I guess Top is this real nuts and bolts guy, right? Like, he has this ability to execute and, and make graphic art, run a website, make things happen. He's the kind of make things happen guy. I'm just the occasional good idea guy who's often taken aback at Top's ability to execute it. So Nephilim Death Squad was a name that I had floating around in my head when I was doing my previous show, which was the ravens watching. And I knew that I liked it. I knew I wanted to apply it to something. I was just waiting for an opportunity to show itself. And so when Top and I got together, I said, you know what, man? I think that we should call the show this. He agreed. But the. The basic idea of the show is more or less that we've come to the conclusion all of the conspiracy theories that capture the attention of conspiracy theorists can be most accurately explained and identified through a biblical lens. And it actually took me in particular a very long time where Top was raised with a religious background. I was not. I didn't have any of that. And I was a conspiracy theorist from a kid. I just fell in love with them, you know, just mysteries. In the kind of the same way somebody would fall in love with like a mystery genre was the same way that I fell in love with this idea that the official narrative is bunk and that there is much more going on behind the scenes that even reaches levels of sort of the fantastic. And eventually, after a long time, I had some experiences and gathered enough information where I looked over to the Bible and I said, you know what? There's something here. I had never dismissed it, but I always sort of put it off. It wasn't something that I really incorporated into my research as much as other things that I was interested in. And so it seems to be that that was the connective tissue between me and Top. When I turned that corner was the same time you had mentioned, you know, the confessionals. Tony was a big inspiration in that. Guys like Sam Tripley are tremendous inspiration as well for our show. And that idea of seeing conspiratorial world through this biblical lens was the great connective tissue for Top and I. That's what brought us together. And. And then we took that. And we took that name, Nephilim Death Squad, which just kind of has a hit to it. You know, a lot of people, they're.
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Top Lobster
Like, really gets the people going.
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David
It gets the people going. Exactly. But that was it. We just started with a name and a concept, and then we hit the ground running. And so Nephilim Death Squad, is that at its foundation, and us just pursuing the things that are interesting to us. A conspiracy that's interesting to us. Does somebody have a theory about what's going on? Let's have them on. Let's have them discuss the theory. And. And that method where we don't necessarily approach anything as definitively true, more just compelling, you know, information to chew on. That model has really resonated with people, and it's.
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Top Lobster
It's.
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David
Yeah, you know, brought us quite a bit of success, I guess, in the past.
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Top Lobster
I'm actually looking this up because I'm like. We get lost with the time, right? Like, I don't know. Last week seems like a year ago. It was just this year that the Jewish tunnels happened. As a matter of fact, Jewish tunnels happened after this Miami mall Nephilim incident, which is a kind of a good place to, like, say what we've been doing. So we start the show in October. Nephilim Death squad. And then January 5th, there was a viral video and a slew of incidents that happened in this. In the Miami mall. They shut. They shut it down. And if you watch the video, it was kind of crazy. You have a bunch of cop cars, but they're not trailed by a fire department or ambulance. It's just cop cars. They create a perimeter around the Miami mall, which is, like, on the bay. It's right where Clint lives. And they shut it down for the night.
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Top Lobster
There's videos coming out and there's, you know, some of the videos are fake, some of the videos, who knows? But the interesting part about this is that the people were calling it. They weren't saying that they were giants or that they were entities or beings there. They were saying that they were Nephilim. They were like 10 foot nephilim in the Miami mall. Name like seemingly comes from out. We use it in our, in our show title. And obviously people like LA Marzulli and Gary Wayne and Michael Heiser have been talking about the Nephilim for a long time but it hasn't reached the conscious of the public in this sort of a way in ever. I think even three months before this or six months before that was the LA or the, the Vegas giant aliens. But they were calling them giant aliens running through Las Vegas now in January of 2024, they're calling them Nephilim. So there's been a shift in the narrative and how people are viewing these things and we've already been kind of poking at, at that point, I've been poking at like, well, how come when AI makes, makes, you know, it's digital images, they have six fingers or like weird stuff like that. Like what's, what's in the AI, what are we actually talking to? And some of it, you know, it, it can get weird and some of it could be wrong and some of it could just be fun. But I think at the heart of it what we talk about, like, uncovering the Nephilim shit of what is actually going on. I think that that's at the very base, the very. Sorry. The very base of the conspiracy of everything that we're seeing. And, you know, I guess, like. Go ahead.
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David
Your point. Top. I just want to say that it's like, what. What we did is there was many more respectable people in this field, right? Like, you just mentioned La Marzulli and Michael Heiser and Gary Wayne and, you know, Dr. Laura Sanger, all these characters who have put in the legwork for Tony Merkel. We came along and we took it and made it almost enter, like, meme culture.
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Top Lobster
Yay. We made it gay and funny. And then there's something to that, right? Like, you want to move culture. You're not going to move it by reading Rothbard, necessarily. Although, I don't know. You had. Who's the previous owner of Twitter? Jack. Right. He had at one point kind of posted that he read this, and it's like, okay, but that comes and goes. Elon Musk, on the other hand, is using memes, and they're Boomer memes, sure. But they make some people laugh. And he's moving culture with it. So you've got to make. If you want to move someone's mind or change their mind, you got to make them laugh. You have to offend them. And I think that we've been. I've done a great job of offending. I think we've done a good job at offending people and making them laugh a little bit. So trying to change your mind on that subject.
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David
So what.
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Tommy
What was that at the mall? What. What actually happened? Because I do remember seeing some stories about it and how it shut down, and people were like, this is weird. And I was just kind of. I kind of glanced at it and was like, huh, yeah, that's strange. And then went on about my business. I didn't look in any detail. So what did happen there in Miami?
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Top Lobster
So there's some, like. There's videos of, like, a. Like, a store camera. And this one looks faked. There's some videos of people from, like, above in their penthouses or their apartments. And they're recording outside. And you see, like, dark, tall, dark shadows running through, across, like, inside of the police perimeter, the official narrative. And dark shadows are not like people. There's something. It's. It's weird. It's like, either it's put there artificially, but it's. I don't know. It's weird. The official Narrative was black teens with sticks or something like that.
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David
Like, you know, firecrackers.
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Top Lobster
Fire with firecrackers. Yeah, that they were doing something there. I'm like, no, that's not what happened here.
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David
This video pointed out really, like, in a great way that there was only police that were part of the response. There was an unprecedented amount of police vehicles responding to this situation. But it is not normal to. To not have additional emergency vehicles alongside. Meaning if you're responding to something that requires that much of a police intervention, then you're going to also rally ambulance and potentially fire truck just to be safe. They're always going to do these things. It's just, you know, Top has a cousin who works for the fire department, and he was actually the guy that brought it to Top's attention. That was like, this is very strange. This is not what you would typically do. And so the other things that are strange about this, like Top said, the official narrative is, is black teenagers with firecrackers. They shut down the airspace above that mole. They also. There was a blackout at the same time that extended all the way to. And an Internet outage, a confirmed blackout.
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Top Lobster
Because like I said, Clint worked in the. He lives in the area and he told. He didn't have Internet, didn't have. I think he might have had electricity, but Internet was out. People closer to it didn't have electricity. So this was a shutdown and it was just a police perimeter where they shut this down over teens with fireworks. I mean, hilarious racist euphemism. But, like, I'm going to choose the other narrative. Maybe, maybe before I'd run in and trash, you know.
- [18:28]
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- [19:28]
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- [19:35]
Top Lobster
Or.
- [19:36]
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Top Lobster
There's some racism here, but, no, not gonna let you be racist and lie your way out of this. There's no way that happened.
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David
And to the point or to your question, Tommy, it's like, well, what happened there? I don't think we really know. We can only look at that situation as significant for the reasons that we just listed, and also for the reason that this narrative escapes and catches fire, goes kind of viral that there are nephilim entities at the mall, which is like, of all the things you could have said, like top said, you could have said alien, and nobody would have thought that that was strange. Nephilim is certainly not a word that a lot of people are familiar with. And so that's really all we're left with, is that there was a strange event. There was a disproportionate police response for teenagers with firecrackers. There was no additional emergency vehicles. They shut down the airspace, the power went out, and the Internet went down for some notable amount of time. And like all things, eventually, you know, it just keeps spinning and you move on from it.
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Tommy
So the interesting thing, it was definitely a disproportionate response from the police. And you would think if it were teens with firecrackers, that they would be worried about a fire. So the fire department would be on hand.
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David
Right, Right. So it would be at least one.
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Top Lobster
Fire truck, but one fire truck.
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David
I mean, you just wouldn't bother. They. The response was insane. People that lived there said they had never seen a turnout of police vehicles in that way. The idea that you would cause such chaos, you know, when we're talking about the roads and that you wouldn't ahead of time get some additional. There you go. Get some additional emergency vehicles on hand, is very strange.
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Top Lobster
Can you guys see what I'm showing you? Yeah, yeah. Those are. Those are all police cars. And I mean, in the video, can't find the video, but they're Lined up, like, way down the Bay Area. Only police cars. Two rows of them.
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David
That's right.
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Top Lobster
Unprecedented.
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David
Circled, by the way. You can't see it. It looks like a nothing in that image when it's. When it's a freeze frame. But when you watch the video, that thing that was in the red circle was pacing back and forth. It was very strange. And large.
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Top Lobster
There's a lot of larger than the cars.
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David
Yeah, There's a lot of conventional explanations for that. It could just be the way that the shadows are playing from all the light that's being projected around that. That's fine. I'm open to all of that, but I'm not open to the idea that you would dismiss this event as children with firecrackers. When we just listed all the crazy things, people that were there in the area certainly saw fit to post this on the Internet and with a sense of urgency. I've never seen this turnout of police vehicles before, you know, and then all of a sudden, this narrative hits. I think there's something very strange. It's like the truth. It lies somewhere in between the official narrative and. And the first stories that emerge. I mean, of course, unless you're looking at like, 9, 11, in which case, remember when they were saying there was bombs in the buildings, and then that narrative goes away. And in hindsight, you look back to that and go, maybe there was some credence to that. So that's just where we landed in that moment. But I think that's when Top and I looked at each other and we've. That was probably when we first realized we were in the right place at the right time, saying the right thing. And that's been the trend ever since.
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Top Lobster
And let's. Let's talk about what the Nephilim are. I mean, you did a brief overview, but there's a lot more than just the Genesis 6 idea of what the Nephilim are. There's a lot of apocrypha, there's a lot of stories, a lot of lore that goes with it. And it's told across every religion, every mythology, every culture. There is some sort of form of what we. What we call a Nephilim, What. What. What you call a demon is a Nephilim. So to go back, you know, the sons of man, the sons of God, which are the fallen angels, or people will call them the Anunnaki, or we. We argue that they might even be like the Greek pantheon or some. Or the gods of India, you know, Hindu gods, things like that, Norse gods. They all share characteristics, but we'll touch back on that. So they, the God, the sons of. Sons of God came into the daughters of man and literally came into them. How they did it, I don't know. Timothy Albarino, he has some interesting views that like, maybe there was a bargain, you know, back then you'd give your daughter's hand in marriage for something technology, you know, secrets, agriculture. And when you read the Book of Enoch, it describes the different fallen angels that came down and did give this knowledge to people. Like the fallen angel AEL would get. He gave the knowledge of like metallurgy and war and agriculture and eye magic, which is makeup. So again, mythology. But you can also go through different cultures and there's different names that have done the same thing. And like, you know, they're, they're the God of this. But really when you look at pictures of their depiction, when you look at their depictions, how other people have drawn them, how these ancient cultures have drawn them, there's overlaps, there's overlaps with how the Christian culture would have drew them or the Hebrew culture would have drew, drew these entities and deities. So these are the parents, they bang the woman because everyone likes, you know, human pussy. And there's also something special about people. You know, it's made in the image of God. And these are fallen angels who fell out of the grace of God and they actually have a little something against them. Go figure. So his creation, these women, they're going to defile it and they're going to create their own creation. They're going to mimic the, the, the prophecy of Jesus, right? So Jesus is made by God, but then comes out of a woman. So it's, it's, it's again, it's like this defilement. It's this upside down, disgusting version of, of, of a perfect, of an immaculate conception. And that creates the Nephilim. So the Nephilim are on the days before the flood and after. That's what it says. God sent a flood, wiped most of them out. But they still exist in some form or fashion. Some survive. But the big ones, I think are, are gone because they talk about these, these men of renown, these mighty men, like huge giants, cannibalistic giants that were eating the people. The people are just completely subservient. They've, they've ruled the earth and every corner of it. There's really not much people could have done at this point, which is why the flood may have happened. And that's like, this is what we glean from when we're reading, you know, when we're reading the. The flood myth about. About. No. Or not the myth, just the. The story of the flood where it says Noah was perfect in his generations.
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Tommy
Well, you. You can use. You can use the word myth in its original form, which is like the origin story is basically what myth means. So, yeah, you could use that word.
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Top Lobster
Yeah, I say it because it's the same story. The story of a flood is the same as all these other ancient myths or mythology. It's all the same stuff, just rebranded, told differently. So Noah was perfect in his generations, and that's why him and his family were spared. Now people argue. Like the standard Christian would argue, well, he was perfect, which, you know, the rest of the world, the man was wicked and awful, and that's why God had to kill all these people and restart the Earth. We say, you know, man was wicked and awful. Look at, like, stories of, like, Sodom and Gomorrah. But God didn't punish. He didn't punish man in this way. He didn't. He didn't try to kill everybody on Earth because the man was wicked. The man was compromised in their genome, which is what I. What I truly believe. Like, the idea of the nephilim seed spreading throughout humankind was just too overwhelming. The. The powers that be, the nephilim, giant powers that be, had taken over the Earth, and there had to be some kind of a reset. You know, we had to do a. A great reset on the Earth.
- [28:04]
David
By the way, to Top's point about this idea, people are going, oh, well, Noah was. Was perfect. And that's what it meant. He was just. And he was. And he was. You know, and it's like. Well, the Bible talks about him being basically a raging alcoholic and an adulterer. So that doesn't really link up that well. And that notion just comes from our attempt to understand the phrase perfect in his generations. That's. That's all it. That's what it says.
- [28:29]
Tommy
The same thing is one thing. The same thing is said about David. And we all know the stories of David, you know, having his mistress's husband killed by sending them on the front lines and stuff like that. And from what I understand, at least from the orthodox tradition, it. It's saying that he repented, that he was repentant of his sins. And that's why it says he was perfect, that he was seen, like, without blemish, because he had. He had fully repented. So that. That's my understanding of that. Now, I did want to Ask on the Nephilim. One of the things that. I don't know if y'all have heard of the podcast Lord of Spirits.
- [29:10]
David
I've not, no.
- [29:11]
Tommy
Okay, so it's. It's an Orthodox podcast, but what they do is they. It's these two Orthodox priests that dive deep into the. The old lore of. Of tradition and where and like, when the Bible was written. And so they. They dive really deep into the history. One of the things that you hear about Nephilim is there 2/3 God, 1 third man. Now, is that something that y'all dig into and that y'all like, like, kind of like experimented, like, trying to think about?
- [29:43]
David
I haven't necessarily gone into the ratio, like, the specific ratio, but it does seem to me that, like your stories of Greek demigods and such, and this goes everywhere. It's not just Greek mythology, right? We're talking about sumer and everything else.
- [29:56]
Top Lobster
It's.
- [29:57]
David
That's the same thing. It's a tale as old as time. It's funny because it even echoes itself. You'll see it over and over again in modern media. But this idea that there is this elevated being of some sort.
- [30:11]
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David
That has relations with a human woman and then they give birth to, I mean that's, that's the thing in, in the Marvel comics when it comes to Guardian of the Galaxy, right? You have Peter Quill is the offspring of some like greater celestial character and a human woman. This like repeats itself over and over again. So the idea of like 2/3 God, 1 third human being. Yeah, maybe I, it makes sense.
- [32:05]
Top Lobster
It would, it would make sense to me because as the Bible goes on, they're called something different. So they're Nephilim and they're Raphael and then there's Gibberim, which Gibberim seems like something you can turn into.
- [32:18]
Tommy
If I'm, if I'm not mistaken. These are when it's, when it starts breaking it down like that, it's breaking down the different tribes. If I, if I remember correctly, there.
- [32:28]
David
Seems to be some precedent for that, but also in the fact that there is a concerted amount of fallen angels. So what you're going to have over and over again, if there is a Nephilim that is, you know, interbreeding with humans continuously, you're going to have a watering down of that. We talk to people who, you know, they, they maintain that that bloodline still exists today, but it's lost its potency to such a degree that, you know, you would not see discernible physical attributes that would stick out to you. Maybe upon further inspection you would. But, you know, we're not going to see, Allegedly there is still room for 13, 14, 15, upwards of 20 foot tall giants, what we would call giants. When you have that in the Kandahar giant story from Afghanistan and things like that, but that things have become so muddled that you wouldn't even know if they walked amongst you. So there's variations, there's varying degrees of it. It depends. It's like when you see these royal bloodlines that are so concerned with maintaining their bloodline that they're practicing incest. Even to the degree that they're all, you know, freakish monsters, they're trying to do something, they're trying to maintain something. There does seem to be, maybe it was overlooked in the past, but there is a very important genetic component to the Bible and following those genetics all the way to modern day, you know, Gary Wayne calls it the, the seed war. Was that La Marzulli that calls it the Seed war. There's this idea that there is the seed of man. And then there is the seed of the serpent. And that forever they would have enmity between one another.
- [34:11]
Top Lobster
That's Genesis 3:15. Yeah. So it'll say. It says he'll. You'll. He'll. He'll crush your head, but you'll bruise his heel. And that's like a prophecy that's. It's describing the seed war of the two. Well, the two. The two babies in one womb, which is actually interesting. That leads into the story of Jacob and Esau, which are. That's a whole nother. I think we'll get into that, but go ahead, continue, David.
- [34:38]
David
So, I mean, yeah, as. As far as, you know, this precedent for whether or not they would be specifically two thirds or anything like that, I think that there are. We've gotten to the point where there's varying degrees. What we're exploring now is this idea that even these hybrid creatures that you would have seen in, like, the Egyptian pantheon, those are also byproducts of this genetic manipulation. There seems to have been a time throughout history where there was a lot more technological advancements being made that ancient man might have had their hands on something that would have been bequeathed to them from these. These entities. But that these entities had a heyday that they just were inverting God's creation every which way possible. So that means creating chimeric creatures. Honestly, we've gotten so schizophrenic about the entire thing that it feels as though these ideas of satyrs and centaurs, chimeras and all these things, Anubis and Horus and all of these entities, I believe, have a real base in reality. And I do think that where it talks about times being as the days of Noah, you know, in the end times, I think we're right back there because it's like we're doing all of this again. There's all these shady government operations allegedly not happening in America, but China doesn't seem to give a damn what they splice what with. You know what I mean? It's like nothing new is under the sun. We're doing all of the same shit over again. So I would imagine that maybe there was a time where you could say like, two thirds. Like, if you're looking at like a Hercules, right, is the office.
- [36:19]
Tommy
Well, the reason. The reason I asked about that is because one of the things that they talk about on Lord of Spirits is the ritual. And it still takes place in Japan, that I know of. But the ritual was, if you remember, they looked at the leaders of countries as gods. Right. So you have one God there. Then what they would do is they would get a harlot to come into the chamber. So now you have a man. So now you have one God, one man. Right.
- [36:50]
Top Lobster
And the angel that presides over that.
- [36:52]
Tommy
And then they would do a ritual in where they were possessed by a God, which is what. If you remember, that's what they called them. Lower. Lower. G. God. So they would get possessed by God. Now you have two gods, one man. They would then go into the chamber, they would have intercourse. She would get pregnant, have a baby from this ritual. And that baby was then considered two thirds God. Right. And so that's where the whole idea of two thirds God, one third man came from. It was two gods impregnating a woman that was human. So this is. And this is a ritual that still takes place. And they have found a bed of that that they use during this ritual. And the bed was 15 foot long.
- [37:47]
David
Yeah, okay, I know what you're talking about. Yep.
- [37:49]
Top Lobster
So I thought he was going to say the Jewish tunnel bed with a little bit of blood on it. I'm like, no way, dude.
- [37:54]
Tommy
No, that was Epstein's bed.
- [37:57]
David
But they know you're. You're 100, write these things. I would imagine Japan is just the one that, like, you know, people are aware of to whatever degree. I'm sure these things are still happening all the time. And to the point of gods, even God says in the Bible that, thou shalt take no other gods before me. And it's like, what is the point of making that warning if there were no other gods?
- [38:17]
Top Lobster
And I think the first commandment, why is this the first one?
- [38:21]
David
Yeah, exactly. Why is it so important that it's number one if none of these things exist? And it's like, well, there are. There's just lesser gods, A bunch of lesser gods they're creating, upset with us because they go, oh, you believe that your God is real, but. But our gods aren't real? And I'm like, no, no, I believe that yours I believe.
- [38:40]
Tommy
Yeah.
- [38:41]
David
There was being deceived.
- [38:43]
Tommy
There was a meme that went around that had. It had Jordan Peterson and Jonathan Pageau. And it was like Jordan Peterson given one of his biblical speeches and then Jonathan Pageau saying, of course Zeus is. Exists. And it was how it started, how it's going.
- [39:02]
David
Yeah, yeah. Well, that is kind of. That's honestly, that is how it started, and that is how it's going.
- [39:06]
Tommy
Right, exactly.
- [39:07]
David
I think that, you know, there is. When Top was Talking earlier about the way that ancient people would draw one God or another and how there's a tremendous amount of overlap. Overlap. It seems that the. The name BAAL was sort of a title. It meant, like, king. And so when you have Zeus and the. What's it called? The. The altar or the temple of Zeus, the altar at Pergamum that would have been found in Turkey. And in the Bible, it said that the throne of Satan was in Pergamum, which is modern day Turkey. But it was, you know, you know, obviously ancient Turkey. And that is where. You know, we've talked about this before. This is where they got the. The. I forgot. I feel like there's a name that I'm. I'm not catching right here. Is it.
- [40:02]
Tommy
Y'all hear all that noise I'm dealing with here?
- [40:05]
David
No.
- [40:06]
Tommy
Oh, that's my dog trying to bust through the door.
- [40:09]
David
Unbelievable. I have the same thing with an obese cat that just seems to think that she can dig her way through my door. So we talk about it a lot, about how Hitler adopted not only much of the symbolism having to do with Zeus in the way of, like, the eagle and the thunderbolts and things like that, but also that his. His fairgrounds that he commissioned, where he did all of his speaking from, was designed after the. The temple of Zeus, the altar at Pergamum, they had it in the Berlin Museum, and that's where he drew the inspiration for it. So it was very strange how they seem to have a lot of, like, Zeus veneration. But it turns out that you can go back to ancient Sumeri, you'll find an entity named Hadad. Hadad is often pictured as having this. Essentially a thunderbolt. He's holding a thunderbolt. He is the. The God of storms, among other things.
- [41:02]
Top Lobster
He hates the Jews. It's crazy.
- [41:05]
David
But there's no shortage of that sort of a thing where you can draw these parallels. Different cultures would have called them by different names. You know, you would never go, we have a car, but a different. In India, they call it something else, but it's still a combustion engine with four wheels and a windshield. And you would go, well, these two things aren't the same thing. And it's like they are the same thing. It's just a language barrier, you know what I mean? So you can find that for countless different entities throughout history. And I think that these are exactly who we're dealing with. And to your point, yeah, they're lowercase G gods. They are the fallen. So whenever people get upset, they're like, oh, you don't believe in it? I'm like, no, I. Dude, I do believe in it. So much of Christianity has so much overlap with the Vedic belief system, has so much overlap with, you know, Timothy Albarino, we were just talking about I believe a moment ago. And he, he spends a lot of time in Peru studying, studying the megalithic structures, you know, Machu Picchu and such, and the government of Peru, who, by the way, has become really disenchanted with, like, this ancient aliens narrator or narrative to the point where they'll question you as to what you're doing there, what your interests are. And if you say anything, ancient aliens, they're going to be pretty rude with you. But they have one notion of how these megalithic structures were made. They just say it was the Inca. It was our predecessor, predecessors. But if you ask people who are actual descendants of the natives of Peru who still live off the beaten path, aren't part of the cities and everything, according to Timothy Albarino, they will tell you stories that, number one, the Inca found those megalithic structures. They were already there. And the way that they say they came about was that they were built by a race of giants. These megalithic structures were built by a race of giants. These giants, however, were evil and cannibalistic, I guess it's fair to say cannibalistic, because they are part human. Right. If we're talking about the Nephilim, if we are actually talking about the same entities and that they were killed in a giant flood that was sent by, like, the creator God, My God, where have I heard that before? It's the same story. And you'll find this over and over again. The only differentiation that I care to make is that oftentimes these other cultures look to the lowercase g gods with veneration, and that's a mistake. That's it. That's all it is. And you can't even say, like, you know, Catholicism has archangels and everything, but you. I don't think you should venerate them, because that is the exact thing that tempted the one third of angels to fall in the first place.
- [43:36]
Tommy
Well, and even in the, in, in the Bible, I believe it's in Psalms, there's, there's a verse that speaks of the gods of the nations. And it's talking about. From what I, from what I remember now, I'm not completely polished on my Bible studies, but which is a major flaw of mine. But from what I remember, what it's talking about is that God had put angels in charge of these nations. And that the, the, the citizens of the nation went from venerating the, the angels to worshiping the angels. And whether or not that angel was a fallen angel or not was dependent on how that angel reacted to that worship. And if that angel did like the angel that came to Mary and was like, no, you don't worship me, you know, kind of deal, then they, they remained an angel. Otherwise, then they became a fallen angel. They became a demon. They became the demons of the nations, you know, and so these stories have go on for, for generations.
- [44:48]
Top Lobster
So that's Psalm 96, 5 or from 4 to 5 says, for the Lord is great and greatly to be praised. That's actually a song that we used to sing. He's to be feared above all gods, lowercase g. For all the gods of the nation are idols. But the Lord. But the Lord made the heavens. So yeah, it's just again, but this is what the people asked for. The, the Jewish people constantly asking for a king. And God told them no. He told him no every time. And like, we really want a king. He said, fine, here's your king. And it never ends up quite the way they want it. But whenever he designates a king, there is always an angel in this territory above them. So that angel is put there whether the angel falls or not. I think that's up to the people and the angel. And, you know, it seems to be the same story over and over.
- [45:30]
David
That really highlights something that top brings up all the time. And I, and, and I think he's right over the target when he does this is like God is omnipresent, but these other entities, they rule over localities, they're not omnipresent. And so that goes into a whole plethora of things. It opens up this door to why you'll even see, let's say Cryptids, for example, in one area but not in another area. God is the only one that's omnipresent. All these other things do seem to be relegated to a physical location.
- [46:04]
Top Lobster
You've got, you've got a cat people, jinn on the east of the world. Like, you know, in the Middle Eastern countries. This is their kind of supernatural phenomenon that they'll talk about. And then over here you've got Bigfoot, dog man. So that's the divide. Like you've got cat people and dog man on either side of, of this giant ocean because it's a different locality. So whatever spirituality is going on, it's a different God. It seems like they have the Same goal, but in the end, they'll. They'll ultimately probably work together. You know, if. If you believe in end times, prophecy, the book of Revelation and that final battle, I think that it'll be one side versus the other. But right now, they're just kind of all moving in different directions and doing whatever they feel like.
- [46:47]
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- [48:18]
Tommy
So. All right, so I all. All this kind of leads me into my. My next question. Have y'all read a book called the UFO Delusion by Father Spirit and Bailey?
- [48:31]
David
No, but I can almost imagine where he's going. And I.
- [48:34]
Top Lobster
Was that an Orthodox. Orthodox priest?
- [48:36]
Tommy
Yes.
- [48:37]
Top Lobster
Okay.
- [48:37]
Tommy
Yeah. So. So Father Sarah from Rose had. Had written a book. I can't remember the name of the book. I have it here somewhere. Anyway.
- [48:46]
Top Lobster
S From Rose. I know. I've heard of him. Okay, what's his name? Sorry? The guy from Counter. Wow.
- [48:56]
Tommy
Counterfeit. Buck.
- [48:57]
Top Lobster
Buck Johnson Johnson. Yeah. He was telling us.
- [48:59]
David
We were just saying we gotta have him back on. Hey, do you mind real quick? I just have to. I'll be back in 30 seconds.
- [49:05]
Top Lobster
He's got to mix ketchup and mayo. Go ahead, man.
- [49:07]
David
I don't have to mix. I have to pee so bad. I'll be right back.
- [49:09]
Tommy
As long as you don't come back with your dick in a bun.
- [49:12]
Top Lobster
Just drizzled nicely. So, yeah, tell me about the book.
- [49:19]
Tommy
Okay, so the UFO delusion, it was. It was taken out of a he. Father Spirit and Bailey had taken, like, the church fathers, their ideas of what aliens were. And then from Father Sarah, from Rose's book, and he had. He had written this book called the UFO Delusion, and it's all about how aliens are actually demons. Now, we heard Tucker Carlson starting to parrot very similar talking points where he got the information from a different place. If you trace the Church fathers of the Christian faith back to the times of Christ, this is what they believed. They believed that aliens were demons, that these were actual spiritual beings that were interacting with humanity, much like we're talking about with the Nephilim. So.
- [50:14]
John Morgan
This.
- [50:15]
Tommy
This was. Is something that I believe Tucker Carlson uncovered by accident, and he kind of stumbled into this. And I think this is him going around talking about this so openly and getting so much public attention. I believe this is why he was attacked by demons in his sleep.
- [50:36]
Top Lobster
So you're talking. Yeah, he's. He's just talking about our favorite David Tucker Carlson. Tucker. Yeah, Tucker Carlson. This is like when the first time we got on Luke Rakowski show, the best political podcast. It was that day that Tucker Carlson was. Or that the week of where he's. He's discussing how America has lost its sense of spirituality and that these things that are, you know, aliens are possibly entities and nefarious ones and such and such. But we've kind of been on this for a while, and, like, all the stuff that we said about Nephilim before, it's. I guess it's foreplay to be like, yo, they're demons, bro. But, like, that doesn't go over well. Like, if I just meet you, be like, let me tell you about the Nephilim. They're demons, and they're aliens, too, man. It's like. But it is, though. Like, I think it is. And we just. David calls it all the time. He's like, it's just a rebranding of the same thing. Like the Aleister Crowley story where he goes to the desert and he summons an entity. Is it called Lamb?
- [51:33]
David
I don't know. It's called Lamb. I don't know if he saw that, if that was the one. There was awas, and there was Lamb, one of them he saw in the great pyramids. For whatever reason, he was allowed to go in the great pyramids and do like a whole workings in there. And then there was another one that he contacted. This wouldn't have been in the desert. This would have been actually in a cabin somewhere, I think in upstate New York. He was, he was communing with. I think that's actually where he saw land. But yeah, to top's point, if you look at the image that Aleister Crowley, who is the, you know, the wickedest man alive, more or less the father of modern day.
- [52:05]
Tommy
666.
- [52:06]
David
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Who managed to really wedge his way into pop culture in such a strange.
- [52:11]
Top Lobster
Way, but just occultism. I mean, like, you know, a lot of people attribute this, like, spooky, and it is kind of spooky. But the guy was, he knew exactly what he was doing and all of his stuff was done with intention.
- [52:21]
Tommy
Oh, yeah.
- [52:22]
Top Lobster
And yeah, it's important to not just like throw him away as like, garb. He's garbage.
- [52:27]
David
But not for the reasons you think.
- [52:30]
Top Lobster
Yeah, like, but we have to pay attention to what he was doing because it's important if we want to know where we're, how we're supposed to move and what we're supposed to do, you have to understand what this guy is doing.
- [52:39]
David
Do you have that image again, Top, by the way, the Miami Mall? Because I believe you slapped Lamb straight in the middle of it. And I just, I think it's a great thing to show people because it's like this was the first rendition of what we recognize today as like the modern day gray. And I think what's also important to recognize about our perception of UFOs, there's two things I want to say on the topic. One is it's very clear that now that the government has taken an interest, we're probably going someplace soon where they're going to reveal something to us. And we actually just finished doing an episode where we anticipate that December 3rd we might actually see something very strange in the skies. But there is a soft disclosure happening over a few years now since 2017, when all of a sudden the government told you that it's okay to. There you go. I mean, that thing is, clearly that's the image that Aleister Crowley would have drawn of Lamb. And absent the gigantic black eyes, that is an alien gray for all intents and purposes. And so there does seem to be this moment in time that we're coming towards where they're going to reveal something or another to us. But I want to remind people that our only perception of ETs, aliens, UFOs, it comes from Hollywood, which is to say it comes from the propaganda machine.
- [53:56]
Top Lobster
The devil himself. Oh, yes, the propaganda machine.
- [54:00]
David
So I just want to temper people with that. It's like, you know, a lot of people have these ideas about whether or not my, my favorite narrative is they are. They're our benign space brothers who have come to stop us from like, mutually assured destruction, who have come to stop us from destroying our own planet with, you know, climate and pollution related issues. They seem to have taken an interest in our nuclear facilities. There's these stories of them shutting down, you know, nuclear facilities, shutting down bombs and missiles, all kinds of shit like that. The military is the leading force in sort of this disclosure. Right? That's what we've been seeing. We've been seeing Air Force officials and things like that in these hearings. We just sat at the, you know, what was it, a week ago? The second congressional hearing on UAPS ever.
- [54:51]
Top Lobster
Sounds like, till we see the time dilation is crazy. That was like a month ago.
- [54:57]
David
So, I mean, it just feels strange to me that we're at this, the edge of something, in my estimation. But like, we don't, we don't have any actual opinions on them that weren't formed by Hollywood. I mean, there are some people who have done some research, but generally speaking, the general public, it's the movies that we get and then mixed with some information that the government disseminates to us, which is hilarious. So, yeah, I do think that when Top was talking about this rebranding thing, the way that I often put it is like, imagine you have a pharmaceutical company that releases a. An experimental drug, gives an alarming amount of people cancer and kills them. And it's so big that they can't sweep it under the rug and the publicity is so bad about it, they decide to dissolve, but just reappear under a different company name that doesn't have all that baggage. It's a rebranding. The public doesn't know they're not the ones that gave you ass cancer. That was the other people. And so in a lot of ways, I think that's what's happening here. Honestly, I think that's been the whole point of this obsession in the sci fi community in Hollywood. It's been a very long journey over decades and decades to try to temper the American public with ideas, manufactured ideas about what these things are. So when they finally do present themselves, we have an Idea. We go, okay, that's what this is. That. Oh, they are here to stop us from killing each other with nukes. Oh, they are here to give us advanced technology. Not. Oh, they are the machinations. And I mean that literally. I. I almost. I'm almost all in on the idea that alien grays are biomechanical husks, that these entities. Because Top's been telling you that. That the Nephilim are demon. In the Book of Enoch, it says that when they die, their spirits are cursed to roam this world. They don't ascend anywhere. They're just stuck here. And they are disembodied as demons. They're disembodied, and they're demons. And so they can only interact with our realm in a limited way. They do it typically through our own psychology, whispering to us and nudging us here or there, answering our dreams and.
- [57:05]
Top Lobster
Hey, go build cern. Yeah. It's like, okay.
- [57:07]
David
Yeah, exactly. But they cannot interact in a physical way. These things, these grays, they don't have any sexual reproductive organs. They don't have seemingly any emotion. They're automatons. That's basically what people report. They stink. I think that they are something that they can inhabit for a limited amount of time and interact with our realm in a limited physical way. But honestly, the name of the game has always been the same as it was back then. Genetic manipulation. That's what these things are obsessed with. Every time they abduct someone, it's all about, you know, mysterious pregnancies and babies that were there but then disappear. People are seeing, you know, children with big black eyes that seem to be their children. And so I think that it's the same old.
- [57:54]
Top Lobster
A lot of butt stuff, too.
- [57:56]
David
But they're trying to rebrand them as something different. Yeah.
- [58:01]
Tommy
Have y'all talked to Rachel Wilson?
- [58:05]
David
Is it Rachel Wilson or Karen? No, no, no.
- [58:09]
Tommy
Rachel Wilson. She wrote a book on feminism.
- [58:13]
Top Lobster
Yeah, we had her. We actually had her schedule to talk to, and then.
- [58:16]
David
That's right. That's why she's familiar.
- [58:18]
Top Lobster
It dropped through. I'll just say it out here. She was, like, very nasty to one of our friends, and that, like, it kind of dropped through, and I just never rebooked her, but I was like, I wanted to talk to her. I just. I don't know. I felt like there was a little bit of a conflict of, like.
- [58:30]
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- [59:30]
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- [60:00]
Top Lobster
Are you so mean?
- [60:03]
John Morgan
Because she's.
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Top Lobster
Great work.
- [60:05]
Tommy
Because she's married to Andrew Wilson. That's why she's so mean. She. That's. That's her.
- [60:09]
Top Lobster
Makes sense.
- [60:10]
Tommy
But. But no, she. Her book is, is really fascinating and I have it somewhere around here, but one of the things she talks about is, is feminism was based off of a Hindu goddess. And this Hindu goddess has like four arms and she's like. She wears a necklace of men's heads.
- [60:37]
David
Yeah.
- [60:37]
Tommy
And like blood dripping, like. And she talks about how feminism is like, comes from this, this spirit, something.
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David
I forget what her name is.
- [60:47]
Tommy
Yeah, I can't remember, man. I. I'm not good with my Hindu.
- [60:51]
Top Lobster
So is it Kali? Kali.
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David
Kali. Kali. Yeah.
- [60:54]
Tommy
Kali. Yeah.
- [60:55]
Top Lobster
Yeah. Let's see if we can put a picture up. Yeah, dude, it's. It's fun to think about it as like a. Like a joke, right? Yeah. Yeah. This blue. So again, another blue skinned entity that just feast on the flesh of human beings. Actually, our friend Paul Stobbs of Understanding Conspiracy.
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David
Oh, he's great on that.
- [61:16]
Top Lobster
Yeah. I mean, if you can get him on this show, you would, you would love it. But he, he makes the argument, has a Book that.
- [61:21]
Tommy
Who is that?
- [61:22]
David
Paul Stops of a show called Understanding Conspiracy. He is fantastic. His research is thorough. He's.
- [61:29]
Top Lobster
Look at that necklace. That's badass.
- [61:32]
Tommy
Is it S T o B S?
- [61:35]
David
Yeah, I believe it's two B's. Yeah.
- [61:36]
Tommy
Okay.
- [61:37]
David
Yeah, a lot.
- [61:39]
Tommy
All right, cool. I'll make it.
- [61:40]
Top Lobster
So he, his, his, like one of his main works is that the nephilim look like clowns. And he does this. I mean, I'm sure we'd butcher it, but he does, he does an entire deep dive and he talks about, I think it has to do with their, like the blood that they have running in their veins that. And, and they also have very pale white skin. So they would look almost like with a tinge of blue. But oftentimes you'll see these, these Hindu gods and goddesses as like blue faces. Even like Anubis is kind of blue. And you'll, you'll see that repeated a.
- [62:11]
David
Lot stories of the Kandahar giant where some people swore there was like a blue element to it. To the extent where when artwork is done of it, the giant is often depicted as having like pale blue skin.
- [62:22]
Tommy
Yeah, I've seen a very pale white. The depictions I've seen of the Kandahar giant were all pale, very pale white. Almost, Almost garish. Yeah.
- [62:33]
Top Lobster
Yeah. But he was also dead, so I mean it could change, but I don't know. They pale usually with like a reddish hair. These kind of Nephilim. Two rows of teeth is something that was not uncommon. Good for chewing, I guess, and the six finger aspect. So as, I guess as they go on, as they, as they continue to breed and dilute like these, we assume that they would just look slightly different. But I think that these gods that these people are looking at and, and worshiping and drawing over and over again are just Nephilim or fallen angels or. I mean, where do you draw the line? Like how much God are they? It's at this point, we were doing.
- [63:11]
David
A show the other day and somebody. It was testimony. It's a show that we do called NDS Chronicles, where we read testimony from people who have had strange experiences. And one of the people was having like a demonic encounter repeatedly in sort of a dream world. And eventually she started to ask this thing's name. And the name that it gave was, what was it? Top it was Asmodeus. Asmodeus. And if you look up Asmodeus, if you look at Asmodeus, Asmodeus has lore pretty much everywhere, but he's Depicted as having, like, the body of sort of a lion. He's got the face of a man. He's also got the face of a bull. He's also got the face of a. Of a bird, I believe, maybe an eagle. And there's also a lion's face in there. And, you know, the cherubim were described until. I don't know if it was Catholicism sort of rehashing what a cherubim looked like into, like, a small, chubby baby. But they are described in the Bible as having, like, the face of a man, the face of a lion, the face of an ox in the face of a. Of a. Of an eagle, I believe. And so there are seemingly, if you're paying attention, many different classes of angels that looked pretty different from one another. So you would imagine that if there were a third of the angels, angels who fell, then you would have an array of different entities. They would all look different. Yeah, this is Asmodeus, as he's often depicted. And, okay, the head of a ram. That's the one that I was. I was struggling for. So when you look at these different creatures and they all have, you know, some of them are. You have, like, satyrs and you have centaurs and you have. I do think these are all just offspring of different angels who would have looked in, you know, wildly different from one another. Like the seraphim or the nakash would have been described as sort of like a serpentine being, you know, so there's all of a sudden precedent for, like, any witch.
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Top Lobster
Lizard people.
- [65:05]
David
Lizard people. Right. Even in. I don't know if it's the. If it's the Book of Enoch or there's another one that describes them as all being. None of them were alike. None were alike.
- [65:19]
Top Lobster
All of the Book of Jasher.
- [65:20]
David
Yeah, the Book of Jasher. I don't know if it was talking about the angels or their offspring. I think it was talking about the Nephilim. None of them are alike. And honestly, it's like, if that is true, then there is your precedent for every weird creature under the sun throughout history. Like, when they were talking about. I think it was like, in Greek times, was it. Who was. Was it. Socrates was writing about a Seder and a Seder as having been, a matter of fact, a Seder that was captured and gifted to a king. And he's describing. Socrates is describing this Seder as being, like, pretty unruly and remarkably strong, very difficult to put in a cage and very nasty. Just a nasty creature. It's like, why would he describe that at all? This is somebody who we look to with veneration to this day, you know, the modern day king of Greek philosophy. And he's describing a Seder and he's leaving in elements that he's, you know, it's like sometimes we get caught up in the flowery language. Like, oh, did he mean this one was a Seder? As in like, he was just wild.
- [66:24]
Top Lobster
Here we go.
- [66:24]
David
Wild man. Oh, you have it pulled up. That'd be great.
- [66:28]
Top Lobster
No, I don't, I don't have. But if you do want to reference what we're talking about, we were talking with Brian of Demon Erasers on our episode, I forgot what it's called on one of the more recent episodes with him. And we go into this, we actually bring up scripture. So it's called the Chimeric origins of the Nephilim. It's episode 84. And there is biblical precedent that describes it. It describes like, hey, don't lay down with this, this goat looking person. Yeah, Like, I know, I know that their goat Usi is really nice, but don't do that. In Deuteronomy it talks about people with cleft lips and pointed ears and, and bent limbs and stuff like that. They're describing like what would be like an upright dog person or other kind of weird deformities. Dwarfs, they're not allowed to enter a certain temple. Some of these things are, you know, you could be like, all right, they don't really want short people in there, or fat people, which is fine, or ugly people. Perfect.
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David
But I agree with those things.
- [67:22]
Top Lobster
Like the cleft lip is very specific. Like what has it. Like, yeah, it's really strange, strange occurrences that you'd be super specific about. You can't be in the presence of God in this temple.
- [67:33]
David
Right? And then you have precedent for like St. Christopher being like this saint with a dog's head or the lion faced men of Moab, which people just anticipate. They're just. Oh, that just means they were fierce. They were fierce warriors. And that's why you would describe them as having lion faces. And it's like, well, I don't know. The more we're looking into this, the more I'm like, maybe they had lion faces. Maybe they were lion faced men. Just like it says.
- [67:57]
Tommy
I'm looking for a picture to send Danny so he can, he can put it up on the, up on the screen. I had quite an encounter whenever I first discovered orthodoxy. So the thing that drew me to orthodoxy was I, I was Raised Southern Baptist. And I just kind of looked at it, and it was so surface to me. And so I decided I was agnostic and. And kind of drifted away and went. Went my own direction. And then. So there's. There's gonna be two photos. I just found him, so I.
- [68:51]
Top Lobster
I'm.
- [68:51]
Tommy
Gonna have to save them. Okay.
- [68:53]
Top Lobster
You know when you said, like, lion face, Men of Moab, if you looked at him, I'd be like, I could kind of see if, like, if they were like, oh, he's a lion face man.
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David
I'm like, yeah, lion face descendant.
- [69:01]
Top Lobster
Yeah, lion face descendant.
- [69:05]
Tommy
So I. One of the things that. The thing that drew me to orthodoxy was they actually had explanations for different encounters. And I had always had some, like, encounters throughout my life. And I. I had. I just sent you those pictures. So this was. This was at a. Here at my house. We had a fire out front where my wife and I are sitting on the porch. And you can. You can see in the two pictures, in the first picture, there's this, like, little faint purple, like, near the porch. And then whenever. And then a couple of seconds later, she took two pictures simultaneously. So it was click, click. And it was like a second later, it's these two figures around the fire, like, standing over the fire.
- [70:01]
Top Lobster
Give me a second. I got it here. Yeah. Oh, shit. That's cool.
- [70:05]
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- [71:35]
Tommy
And so this was right around the time I started, like, investigating orthodoxy. It was shortly after this, I had a dream. I don't know if it was that same night, a couple of nights later, but I had this really, really vivid dream. And I was laying in the. On the bosom of a late. Of a woman. Just this beautiful. Yeah, this one, you can see the two figures there. Like kind of.
- [72:01]
Top Lobster
This right here. Yeah, yeah. And the next one is even crazier. See if I can get to that.
- [72:06]
Tommy
But it went from this, this picture to the next picture. It was like almost instantaneous.
- [72:15]
Top Lobster
You know what? I'll just. I'll just click it on here. So that's the first one, and then this is the second one.
- [72:24]
David
Oh, that's weird.
- [72:25]
Top Lobster
Look at that. It looks like a female almost.
- [72:28]
Tommy
It's two distinct figures. And so it was shortly after this, I had a dream and I was laying on the bosom of this woman and she was caressing my hair, and we were talking and I say. I said, but who are you? And she said, my name is Luca. And Luca. I was like, luca what? Like, that's weird. That's like, that's. That's a weird name. So I looked it up, and in Sanskrit, that means God. God of light.
- [73:01]
David
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [73:02]
Tommy
Or enlightened one.
- [73:03]
David
Well, even in Italian, it means bringer of light.
- [73:06]
Top Lobster
Lucifer.
- [73:07]
David
Yes, right, right. The light mirror.
- [73:11]
Tommy
Right. And so. And it was just. It was such a vivid dream and I. I was unable to shake it. I actually didn't go to church for six months after this. It shook me to the core. It had me all kinds of messed up. And I finally got in touch with Father Turbo, who is Buck's spiritual father.
- [73:34]
Top Lobster
And Turbo quails, right?
- [73:36]
Tommy
Turbo quals. Yes. And talked to him about it and he was like, yeah. He goes, because of your past and being molested as a child, that these entities will attach themselves to you and kind of follow you around. And as you're finding truth and as you're moving in the right direction, they're going to do everything they can to pull you back and to keep you in their grips. And so he's like, what you're experiencing, that's not a dream. This is actually happening to you. And I was like, wow, okay. It was just really eye opening that somebody, a priest would actually have that conversation with me. And this is what drew me into orthodoxy.
- [74:26]
Top Lobster
That's awesome.
- [74:27]
Tommy
They're not afraid to tackle the esoteric and. And these. These different things that occur in life.
- [74:37]
Top Lobster
And that's why I think, well, it's not why I've gone away from the modern church. I've gone away because I had some disagreements with my old church. And then I went. My parents go to one and they bring my kids, which is great. The kids learn about this stuff. But I'm like, I go. And they're very, very Zionist. And they also missed, in my opinion, they missed the spiritual aspect of the spiritual warfare of it. And that's. I try not to blame everything on spiritual warfare, but you do have to be aware of it, like, that it does exist. It is real. Now, if I'm. If I'm just saying, you know, like, my kids are behaving, I. I just rebuke them in the name of Jesus. I'm like, they're. They're kids. This is something that you've got to teach. You have to. There's understanding. However, if they're like, you know, my wife. Me and my wife going through, like, you know, health issues and like that, like, really, we just went through a bunch of spiritual warfare right before Bohemian Grove. It was a lot of fun. And we're like. But I'm, like, keenly aware of it. Like, I understand this is a spiritual warfare, but I also understand that these things are full of. So they have to approach you in your dream or in some sort of super state like that, because. Yeah, they're not. They. They can't manifest here. Well, not yet. Hopefully not. Not in my life, but maybe. But they have to approach you. They have to deceive you.
- [75:54]
Tommy
Now what?
- [75:55]
Top Lobster
It reminds me of a story we just read on Nephilim. Nephilim, Desquad Chronicles of a. A woman that she was approached by the other woman with asthma, Deus. And she was approached by this being constantly and was raped by it in her. In her dreams, constantly. And then it just turned into kind of like consensual casual sex. And she would talk.
- [76:15]
Tommy
That's just. But that's just sleep paralysis. Don't worry about it.
- [76:18]
David
Right, right.
- [76:18]
Top Lobster
But she. She wasn't drawing the difference at the time that this was actually happening to her. She's like, I think that, you know, I might have been on a medication. I. Maybe I'm just crazy. And this is into the point where she's like, yeah, you know, do me harder like crazy like that and, like, kind of getting into it, she's like, well, when in Rome. And it's like, but they rely on that when in bed. Yeah, I guess invite the demon. And I. I get it. I. I understand why. Like, you're like, oh, this is just a dream. Like, whatever. Like, let's just get past this and I'll wake up and then go to life and do whatever. But you're consenting in that dream, and they kind of rely on you to be fooled and mistaken by that. So it's. It's scary.
- [76:59]
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Top Lobster
Service fees and terms apply, but it's also relieving, right? Because it's like, oh, you had. This is the kind of valor, you know, the smoke and mirrors that you had to show me in order to get me to do what you wanted. And then even still, after I did what you wanted, I can just be like, Knobs in the name of Jesus. I don't like that anymore. And. And then. And then you kind of gotta stop, right? So, yeah, white pill. Big white pill there.
- [78:54]
David
I agree with that. And that's. You know, Tommy, you just touched on it there, right? Where it's just like, oh, it's just sleep paralysis. This is one of these things where both. And I. I agree with your ideas about how orthodox Christianity doesn't seem to shy away from the supernatural aspect of things, which I really enjoy about them. And we were talking about Tucker Carlson earlier. One of the things that he says that does resonate with me is that in the west, we're. We have a detachment from understanding of the spiritual realm. We're detached spiritually. We just don't understand it purposefully. Most purposefully, yes.
- [79:26]
Tommy
Can you bring that second picture up again, Danny? I'm sorry, man. Yeah, go ahead.
- [79:30]
Top Lobster
No, it's okay.
- [79:31]
David
But most churches are also going to ignore the supernatural aspect of things. And so what happens is it leaves you entirely unarmed. So when we're talking about this. This woman who sent this story to us, she's lost for a while. She doesn't know how to deal with it. She thinks it's a dream. She thinks dreams are meaningless because in the west, we think dreams are meaningless. So there's so many ways, like, they're not that strong and you can overcome them. They rely on you being in the dark and not understanding what this is for them to be able to take advantage of you.
- [80:05]
Tommy
I wanted to. I wanted to point one thing out that a lot of people could easily overlook. If you look down at the bottom of the picture, that's my dog's head right there. He's staring at the figures.
- [80:21]
Top Lobster
Oh, wait. Does he have his head down looking at this?
- [80:24]
Tommy
No, he. That's. My wife was taking the picture. She was sitting behind him. So that's the top of his head, and he's looking directly at those figures.
- [80:35]
Top Lobster
Oh, yeah, I see that.
- [80:38]
Tommy
And see, we couldn't see that with the human eye, but he saw them. We didn't see that until she took the pictures.
- [80:47]
David
Yeah, I definitely think animals are keyed into something that. That human beings can't see. You can't perceive with our own eyes. There's. There's definitely something there, but.
- [80:57]
Top Lobster
Well, not only are they keyed in, I. I think it's just that we're, like, so zoned out with the. Like, I'd be. I'm. I'm very interested in seeing what happens with this Make America Healthy movement. Because I have a feeling that when you take red dye and fluoride out of the water in the food supply, people begin to see a little bit more clearly. And I don't know what that means, but I think that all that. That's jamming up your pineal gland. If you want to get like real woo woo with this, I think that that is a. That's going to be a major factor in whatever we're going to see next. Yeah. And it's done on purpose.
- [81:32]
Tommy
Well, you know what I want to hear. You had brought up Jacob and Esau earlier, and then you said, we'll get back to that. So let's go, buddy.
- [81:41]
Top Lobster
All right.
- [81:42]
David
Where do we start with that one.
- [81:43]
Top Lobster
Justin Brown of the Prometheus Lens podcast. You should have him on, because again.
- [81:48]
David
We are just love him.
- [81:50]
Top Lobster
Yeah. Oh, yeah. You guys are. Where are you from?
- [81:52]
David
Where you at now?
- [81:54]
Tommy
I live in Beaumont or outside of Beaumont, Texas.
- [81:57]
Top Lobster
Okay. All right. He's in. I think he's in Virginia, right? Some.
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David
I think something like that. But he's a. He's a great guy. He's got incredible. We won't do it justice. You, of course, need to talk to him, because Justin is one of these guys when it comes to this topic of Esau and Jacob, that is kind of, in a lot of ways, blazing a trail. This isn't. This is his own research to a large degree. I mean, I'm sure he's found some help from people who have an idea or two, but a lot of it is stuff that he is compiling himself. And so there's. There's two ideas when it comes to the Jacob and Esau thing. One of them has to do with Bigfoot. The other one has to do with these priestly robes that would have been on Noah when his kids found him naked and drunk and pulled his garments over him. The same priestly robes, allegedly, that you want to know.
- [82:49]
Tommy
You want to know a.
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- [82:52]
Tommy
Say fun fact, but traditionally, the son that stumbled upon Noah and saw him naked. Do you know what that actually means?
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Top Lobster
Yeah.
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David
Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
- [83:07]
Top Lobster
It means that he. His wife or he his mom. No, it's episode 67.
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Tommy
No, he raped Noah.
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David
Oh, interesting.
- [83:16]
Tommy
That's traditional. That's traditionally the way that it was. It was read from the Jewish perspective back in the day.
- [83:25]
David
That's interesting.
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Top Lobster
That's even worse.
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Tommy
He didn't. He didn't just stumble. He didn't just see his father naked. He experienced his father naked. That his father got drunk and passed out and he Took advantage of him. And he went and got his brothers to join him. Yeah, yeah. His brothers were like, no. And that's why Noah disowned him.
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David
I love it that they would go by the. Yo, dude, come in here. You want to rape dead? And they're like, you want to what?
- [83:53]
Tommy
Come get some of this.
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David
What now? Well, so those robes that they pulled over him when they denied the request for raping, I guess, allegedly, according to Justin Brown, which he's got a lot of really compelling evidence to support the theory is these were the same robes that were stripped off of the serpent in the garden, the Nikash. That the idea that the nakash was the accuser, he was Satan, he had a role to play and that he was actually like a priest. He had a high spiritual place of authority, and he went too far in the situation with the transgressions of Adam and Eve. And so the robes were stripped off of him, given to Adam. And you can trace these all the way down to the coat of many colors that was given to Joseph. And at some point, Esau has them for a period. And so, I mean, I highly recommend, because we will butcher that. Have Justin Brown on. You'll get a real kick out of this. It's a lot of fun.
- [84:48]
Top Lobster
Well, when it comes more, there's more to that, but there's more to the. To that part. We could. We can sort of tell you. But it. So that's Leviticus. In Leviticus 18:8. And also in Deuteronomy, I have to look that one up. But in Leviticus, it's talking about the nakedness of your father and of the nakedness of your father's wife. You shall not uncover. So that is, I think when we were talking about this, when we were saying he raped his mother, because these are. These are specific rules that they're telling people. Like, don't uncover the nakedness of your father's wife. So don't rape your mother or your mother your stepmother. But if they uncovered the nakedness of their father, that means. Yeah. Geez, that's rough, dude. That's even worse.
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David
Dad's drunk again.
- [85:28]
Top Lobster
Better super gay.
- [85:30]
David
Better his butt. I mean, I don't know. Isn't that what you see? Your dad gets drunk?
- [85:36]
Tommy
Isn't that what Destiny just did to Nick?
- [85:38]
Top Lobster
I'm pretty sure it is.
- [85:39]
David
I managed to avoid that video, by the way.
- [85:42]
Tommy
I haven't seen it. I don't want to see it. It just reminded me of this Ron Paul bitch. Y'all seen the. The new Ron Paul bit where he's talking about, he. He met a guy and he found out the guy was gay. And he's like, it's funny because he didn't seem gay to me. And then he. Then he goes on to talk about when he was 20, he let some dude blow him in a gas station bathroom. And he goes, but. But he seemed. He seemed gay. And he goes, I guess if you would have walked in the bathroom, we would have both seemed gay.
- [86:13]
David
But it was incredible. Incredible.
- [86:17]
Tommy
It was just him.
- [86:18]
David
That's funny. So. So when it comes to the. The Bigfoot correlation, it. It's basically Justin taking a much deeper dive into this idea that Esau was covered in hair to the extent that when Jacob went to get his birthright and trick his father, he had to put sheep's wool on his body. He also had to cover himself in enough crap that he smelled bad, which is interesting because that does go along with Bigfoot lore, is that he smells horrific and that the. The birth of Jacob and Esau was sort of a fractal prophecy. This idea of. We talked about it before. Enmity between the seed of man and the seed of the serpent. He shall bruise your heel, but you shall bruise his head. Even the way that they came out in that order, Esau was gripping onto Jacob's heel. I believe there's a. There's a whole slew of stuff that Justin gets into, and it also kind of.
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Top Lobster
It kind of ties into that thing that you were talking about when you're. What these. These kings will do, like summoning another entity. So this woman, it would seem if. If this part is to believe, to be believed. Rebecca had both the seed of. Of God or this pure blooded seed, not. Not God himself, but, you know, this Hebrew seed of this. This lineage in her and also at the same time, the seed of a monster. Yeah.
- [87:53]
David
There shall be two nations. Right. Like that is literally. The Bible is telling you that's the prophecy. Completely different people. And there.
- [88:02]
Tommy
And there are people that believe that Noah was a Nephilim.
- [88:05]
David
Yes. Yeah. And, yeah, there's a lot of, you know, you go back and forth, a lot of people will show you evidence for Noah having been exponentially larger than other people, too. It's really interesting because there was an episode recently of the confessionals where there was a site for some time that people speculated was the mountain that Noah's ark would have landed on. A lot of people were looking at the Mount Ararat as the location for Noah's landing.
- [88:35]
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David
It seems that was a little bit of a misnomer. And it was a mountain in the mountains of Ararat. Not specifically Mount Ararat, but there was. There's a mountain range there. And on one of those mountains, they did find a ship, which enough right there should be like, what the hell of. I think it's like 500ft in length. And there was a time where people were much.
- [90:27]
Top Lobster
500 yards.
- [90:28]
David
500 yards. I'm sorry, 500 yards in length. And there was a time where people were much more. Either way, that's the idea.
- [90:32]
Tommy
Big ship.
- [90:34]
David
Yeah, yeah. And recently there was some rock slides and mudslides, and when that happened, giant portions of the ship were suddenly exposed. And now it seems, without a doubt, there is definitively a massive ship on the top of one of the mountains of Ararat. And even just beneath the ship, there is a small village that fits the description of the place that Noah and his family would have first, you know, came out of the ship, landed on, and started to build a community yet. And so, I mean, we're in this weird period Right now, where even the Shroud of Turin is, like, kind of turning a corner. They've now dated it to be 2000 years old. We did an episode on it recently, and that was a good episode, dude. It seems like it holds a lot.
- [91:21]
Top Lobster
Shout out to these guys.
- [91:22]
David
Yeah, Cult of Conspiracy. They're fantastic. Good buddies of ours, and they came with all the receipts for that. And so in so many ways, it feels like, you know, there was a time when I figured the biblical lens was the correct lens. And now it's like, you know, for us, doing this show is just epiphany followed by vindication, followed by epiphany followed by vindication. It seems like this was all incredibly real. And I don't know, I mean, you know, I know that the Dead Sea Scrolls did a lot of convicting for a lot of scripture and also gave us the Book of Enoch, which even that I find interesting because it's like the very first line in the Book of Enoch is that this is for the tribulation generation. And if you look around, you want.
- [92:10]
Tommy
To know, you know, what's really interesting about the Book of Enoch, other than it's the book that's next to my bed on my nightstand, is. Is that it was the second most popular book in that. In that region. So they. They only. The only book they found that was more popular than Enoch, that they found more copies of in that area where they found the Dead Sea Scrolls was Genesis.
- [92:41]
David
Wow.
- [92:41]
Tommy
Enoch was number two.
- [92:44]
David
Kind of makes a lot of sense.
- [92:45]
Top Lobster
It's. It's meant he's mentioned in the Bible. So. Yeah, the people in the Bible were reading that stuff.
- [92:50]
Tommy
Right.
- [92:51]
Top Lobster
One thing we uncovered which is real interesting, the initial discovery in, I guess by a shepherd named Muhammad, of course, in the Kuman area, it was discovered in 1947. What's made in. When was Israel made?
- [93:08]
Tommy
48.
- [93:10]
Top Lobster
Ah. It's kind of interesting. So this book is gonna.
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David
It's also like right around the Roswell sightings. It's right around the. The end of World War II. Right. Like, there was. It was a weird, really weird time. It seems the late 40s.
- [93:26]
Top Lobster
And it's like, this is for the tribulation generation. And then, boom, you've got the creation of the state of Israel, you've got the end of the World War, you've got. Yeah, all the aliens should happen era.
- [93:34]
David
And the beginning of a new one.
- [93:36]
Top Lobster
God dies shortly after in America. You know, there's no God in America for, like, I don't know, the 60s or the 70s. Or something like that. It's. Things get real weird now. We're in like this church age that is about to be over as well. And yeah, I don't know, I'm sure everybody said this, that kind of looks at this stuff. They're like, yeah, we're in the end times, but it sure does feel like it.
- [93:55]
David
And what I'll say to that topic.
- [93:56]
Tommy
Is that Sarah from Rose used to say, it's later than you think.
- [94:00]
David
Yeah, I think that that's a great way of putting it. And I know that a lot of other generations thought they were there, but we are the only generation that has gotten to a point where you can at least speculate as to whether or not they are trying to manufacture prophecy. Because there are many ways in which I look at what happens on the world stage and I go, that seems to be. There's an effort to make this fit a sort of end times prophecy. And that kind of happens over and over again. I mean, certainly when it came to the red heifers. The red heifer, that prophecy, yeah, that came from a farm. That's purpose was to genetically create the perfect red heifer. If you look into it, it's like, yeah, that's what they were doing. It's obviously good business to be in, but if they can create the red hat. And of course they ended up doing that. In fact, they ended up getting like eight possible candidates. That got whittled down to five, that got whittled down to three. And then all of a sudden the press stopped rolling on it because things became awfully controversial there. And so that is one way that I look at it. And I go, that seems to be a manufacturing of prophecy. You can certainly say that.
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Top Lobster
What an incredible time. Let's just take a stroll back there to that time where I forget the woman that works for Ben Shapiro. I don't know, some Jewish lady was talking about it in almost a celebratory manner. And then like, I was one of the people that pushed her on it. I was like, what the did you just say?
- [95:22]
David
Like, you're like the end times and you're pumped about it. Yeah.
- [95:26]
Top Lobster
So they moved the red Herit to Israel. And then she's like, oh, but it's just. It's just fine. I was like, no, no, no. They're going to sacrifice them. Then they're going to bathe these tools, that they're going to erect this next temple in their ashes. It's like, I guess it's fine. But like, this is cause for alarm. And they just kind of like, matter of factly like, yeah, no, this is what's going to go down. And then. And then you don't hear anything else about it. Then we have, like, the. The eclipse happens and then dead silence on the. On the red heifers.
- [95:50]
Tommy
Well, that's it. What's. What's hilarious to me is the same people that are all up in arms about the persecution of the Jews and the persecution of Israel are wanting to usher in the end of Israel. It's really weird.
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David
Yeah, yeah.
- [96:12]
Top Lobster
Psychotic.
- [96:13]
David
It is. It's all kind of insane. I mean, you know, we. We've been looking a lot at the Donald Trump thing, which, you know, that I tend not to look at things from too much of a political point of view and more of, like, an esoteric, spiritual, cultural kind of view. And with him, there seems to be, at the very least, there is no shortage of rabbinic Jews in Israel who are looking to him as the moshiach as, like, a messiah figure. They herald him as. We even have this, like, minted coin with him and his face next to King Cyrus's face, who, you know, made it possible for the building of the second temple. They regard him. They gave him recently, this silver crown. And I believe there's efforts being made constantly to determine whether or not Donald Trump, this is real, is one of the genetic descendants of the biblical King David. And so they have songs about him, Super Trump and all this crazy crap. They regard him as a messianic figure. And even that. I'm like, I don't know. There just seems to be this.
- [97:20]
Tommy
You say you said Super Trump and Super Freak came to mind.
- [97:25]
Top Lobster
It should have been.
- [97:27]
David
They.
- [97:28]
Top Lobster
They really missed the boat on that. It should have been set to the. The soundtrack of Super Freak. But this. This song slaps, too.
- [97:34]
David
Yo, Super. Super Trump is a banger of a song. It's sung by the Israeli boys choir, and they sing about him as if he is a superhero. That's how they perceive him. And so there's so many things I'm like, I don't know what they're exactly doing with Donald Trump. I know I have, like, a slew of Donald Trump might be the Antichrist notes. Dude, I'm not even kidding you.
- [97:59]
Tommy
You gotta get Cyprian on to talk about that. He'll. He'll go on for days, I think.
- [98:05]
Top Lobster
I think he's forgiven me since. I know we have. We've had some, like, like, back and forth, but that was years ago. I would love to talk to.
- [98:11]
Tommy
He's not. He's not on Twitter anymore.
- [98:13]
David
You.
- [98:14]
Tommy
You'd have to email him. But yeah, if you could hook us up.
- [98:19]
Top Lobster
Vin Armani. Old school Vin Armani. Cyprian, man. Yeah. That dude, he was right about so much that I kind of like. I didn't. I never, like, spit in his face, but sometimes I'm like, you're going a little crazy, dude. What are you talking about?
- [98:31]
David
And then I'm like, went the craziest.
- [98:33]
Tommy
And then. And then it happened. And you're like, okay, yeah.
- [98:38]
Top Lobster
And then I was like, all right, well, what else do you have to say?
- [98:41]
Tommy
He's a. He's the reason that, like, Buck, myself, Matt Erickson, all got introduced to orthodoxy.
- [98:50]
Top Lobster
Beautiful. I would love to have Matt on as well. I see. I see that his show is growing and his. His following is growing. He's doing. He's doing some. Some cool stuff. It's. It's cool to see.
- [98:59]
Tommy
Matt's a badass dude. I love Matt.
- [99:02]
Top Lobster
Yeah, it's. It's great to see, like, how that weird libertarian community kind of like, is just, you know, fractionated. Yes. It just, it blew up and everybody goes kind of like in different paths, but they're doing all just really cool.
- [99:17]
Tommy
Things and we're all still like, close friends. Like, I just talked to Pete last night, actually. He's going to be on the show here next week.
- [99:23]
Top Lobster
So Pete's another one, had him scheduled and I never nailed a date, but I was just texting back and forth with them. It's just good people. I'm very glad for the time that I spent in the Libertarian Party. I'm glad I didn't turn out gay. And I'm glad I came out of it with, like, knowing some cool people.
- [99:39]
David
I want to. I want to share this with.
- [99:41]
Tommy
With Tommy.
- [99:42]
John Morgan
I thought you were gay.
- [99:43]
Tommy
When you entered and we turned you.
- [99:45]
Top Lobster
Straight I prayed it away. We prayed it away. Doggy.
- [99:52]
David
So, Tommy, check this one out. This is. This is neither here nor there. It's just something in my notes that I love telling people because it's something a lot of people don't know and it's very fun. Yeah. Did you know that in 1958 there was this show called the Track Down? It was like an old timey western kind of a deal.
- [100:08]
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- [101:42]
David
There was an episode named the End of the World. And the entire premise of the episode is a con man comes to town and he is warning everyone that the world is going to end. And once everyone is sufficiently freaked out, they start to, you know, wonder how they're going to solve this issue. He has a solution. His solution is to build a wall, and that's going to protect them. The guy's name was Trump in the series.
- [102:17]
Top Lobster
Yeah. Yeah.
- [102:18]
Tommy
What the shit?
- [102:19]
David
Kind of like Donald.
- [102:21]
Top Lobster
And again, not to seem like I'm not, like, I'm not anti Trump. A lot of people, like, when we do episodes about this, they're like, oh, yeah, fuck that guy, right? And I'm like, I really like him. I voted for him. I like what he's doing and I like.
- [102:33]
Tommy
Hilarious.
- [102:34]
David
He's so funny.
- [102:35]
Top Lobster
How could you not? And also the direction that this, the country is going in, it's like, well, we have a choice. We can go this way, that way. It's like, I kind of want to see the story continue, but in this direction. And I understand he might be the Antichrist, but let's be real here. He's hilarious, right?
- [102:49]
David
But there is, like, all this weird lore. Like, what's that? That movie Back to the Future? There's like, a million different ways in which it nods at Donald Trump. And 9 11, interestingly enough. But like Biff, the character Biff was actually modeled after Donald Trump. There is the Lockwood books.
- [103:08]
Tommy
Check this out. There was a book released in 1968 called Stand on Zanzibar. It predicted that in 2010, there would be a black president.
- [103:19]
Top Lobster
Wow.
- [103:20]
Tommy
That there would be AirPods. There would be headphones. There would be a financial collapse.
- [103:26]
John Morgan
Wow.
- [103:27]
Tommy
It was like. It's like, what the.
- [103:31]
David
Sometimes I think, tap into a lot of people who make, like, books, movies, any kind of art. They're channeling. I think a lot of them are channeling, and they don't really realize it. It's because so many of them will tell you. Like, even Stephen King tells you that.
- [103:45]
Tommy
People don't have ideas. Ideas have people.
- [103:48]
David
Yes, correct. Yeah, we were talking about that. It seems like there's almost, like, ideas.
- [103:54]
Tommy
Ideas are almost alive.
- [103:56]
David
Yes. Dude. Okay. That's exactly what I was going to say.
- [103:58]
Tommy
How many. How many times have you been like. Because I drive a truck, so I can relate it to driving, but I can't. I can't tell you how many times I've been driving in complete silence and an image pops into my mind, and I'm like, oh, my God. Where the hell did that come from? That's disturbing. Like, what. What would make me think of such a thing? You know? Like, it almost disgusts you sometimes, the things that pop in your head.
- [104:25]
David
Driving is probably the. One of the ways that it happens the most because you get into, like, a automaton kind of meditative state when you're driving. If you're driving long distances, you're like, in a. In a weird space mentally.
- [104:37]
Tommy
And I used to drive, like, 600 miles a day.
- [104:40]
David
That's insane.
- [104:41]
Top Lobster
When I was. When I was driving truck, that's, like, when most of my artistic ideas came, because it's something about, like, I'm in, like, this cabin and shit's moving by me, and I'm going. And there's nothing really. Somehow I'm like. I'm on autopilot thinking about safety stuff, but really, I've. If I've got this podcast on, I might be listening to Year Zero, and then I'm hearing Tommy talk, and then all of a sudden, I start to talk back to him in my head. And then your brain could just travel and. But then. Then it gets to the idea of, well, which ideas are your own? Right. Like the Jerry Marzinski idea. Everybody drink. How many of these ideas are yours? And he would contend that there. There's very few of them. And do you know Jerry Marzinski?
- [105:21]
Tommy
I do not.
- [105:22]
Top Lobster
Oh, all right.
- [105:24]
David
Here we go.
- [105:25]
Top Lobster
I'm about to squirt. Go ahead, David. I know you wouldn't do it.
- [105:27]
David
I'll keep it short and sweet, but Dr. Jerry Marzinski is a clinical psychologist with 35 plus years in the field working directly with schizophrenic people. And initially he worked in a medical environment where it was very restrictive. Eventually he moved on to a prison environment where he had a lot more room for experimentation. Long story short, after going through the, you know, medical apparatus rigmarole and all his professional career, he came out the other end saying people are being influenced by something external to themselves and that it is demonic and that Psalms 23 has a real effect on these entities. And he actually showed up for a second appearance on our show with somebody who used to be schizophrenic. And then overcame it by treating it as if it was an external threat and that it was not hallucinations by his own mind.
- [106:17]
Tommy
Oh, wow.
- [106:18]
David
He came up with 23 discernible patterns that these things adhere to. And he says that as the medical industry has been pinned hallucinations by nature, hallucinations do not adhere to a set of patterns. Not very often. I mean, hallucinations in their nature, they're sort of random, but they would eventually fall into some sort of a pattern. If it's like a thousand monkeys. Right. Typing on a. Yeah. Typewriter sort of thing. But he came up with 23. 23 discernible patterns that these things adhere to. And then started to treat people as if they were dealing with demonic oppression. And with great success, by the way. So you would definitely like to talk to Dr. Jerry Marzinski. We'll give you his contact information. You'd get. You'd have a blast.
- [107:02]
Top Lobster
Yeah. One of his stories that we love to tell is, like, when he's there and he's speaking to these. These patients that are in. In the jail or the. You know, the. I guess the prisoners that are in the jail. Yeah. He was just kind of, like, treating them, but he's doing. In an unorthodox way where he's actually telling them to address the voices rather than just take medicine and, like, push it to the side. And multiple times the inmates would come up and tell him, like, the voice has told us that, like, you have no right to interfere with how we're living. And he's like, oh, that's kind of weird. I don't know what to do. And it leads up to the point where he has one guy in his office, and he's sitting across his desk, and he's. He's had conversations that led to a point where he felt comfortable, where he's going to show him this chapter in a book. And in the chapter in the book is another Spanish doctor. That's kind of brutally. He's theorizing that possibly these things are entities that are talking to him and not just hallucinations. So he's like, here, read that. Let me know what you think. And the guy reads it and he says. He kind of, like, looks at me with a blank stare. And, like, we're just silent in the room. And all of a sudden, the guy just goes, no. Oh, sorry. He's looking at him with a blank stare. At that point, he hears, like, a crackling noise that travels behind him across the wall and around to that wall into the garbage can in his. In his. In his office. And he's like, what the hell was that? He looks at the guy again, blank stare. The guy just like, okay, I gotta go. And he gets up and he leaves. And he's like, I don't know what the fuck that was, but he shut down his office for, like, the next day or so. And he said maybe, you know, a couple of weeks to a month pass, and he sees the same guy again. And he goes, how you doing? And the guy's doing better because he's now addressing the voices, and he's taking, like. You know, he's taking ownership. That, like, this is. You know, this is me. It's. These are external things that are talking to me. And I'm not. I'm not going completely crazy. So he's like, I'm doing better. And then Jerry asked him, like, well, you know, last time you. And you was kind of weird. So what was that about? You just, like, looked at me blank and then left in a. In a hurry. And he goes, yeah, as you were talking to me, you know, something was going on. He's like, did you hear the static electric thing? And he was like, did you heard that too? And Jerry goes, yeah. And he says, that's the voices. He's like, I'm surprised that you heard that. So now Jerry's playing with him. He goes, what did they tell you?
- [109:23]
David
You know?
- [109:24]
Top Lobster
And he looks at him. He goes, the voice has told me to find a shank and put in your guts. And he's like, why didn't you. And he said, well, I went out and I couldn't find one, so I didn't do it. And again, Jerry, like, he shuts down his office for the next day or so, and he's contemplate what just happened here, and that's that. I guess that was, like, probably 20 years ago or maybe 25, because he's been doing it for 35. And ever since then, he's kind of on this journey of like, what the hell is this stuff? And I think he has the most compelling database of information regarding schizophrenia and entities and. And methamphetamine. We're going to talk about Nazi Germany as well.
- [110:10]
Tommy
Well, I. I think before I would have gone on the journey to figure out what the hell's going on, I would have gone on a journey to find some plate armor so I don't get shanked in my guts.
- [110:21]
Top Lobster
Yeah. Or would do it through zoom. Do it through zoom, Jerry.
- [110:25]
Tommy
Yeah, yeah. No doubt. This is much safer.
- [110:28]
David
Yeah, yeah. I think Gary Barzinski, he's. He's tremendous. Like I said, last time he bought. A guy on the show was diagnosed schizophrenic in his 20s, bipolar schizophrenic, and. And is now, you know, much older. I think he's, like, in his 40s or 50s. He has had a successful career as a mechanical engineer. And, yeah, he came on and he shared his story with us. If you talked to him, you'd have never guessed that this is a guy that was struggling with schizophrenia and his ideas about what these things were. And, you know, some of the stories that he has about how they interacted with him are harrowing. But it's very clear that in the west, we. We don't really know what the hell schizophrenia is. We just kind of drug these people into oblivion and tell them that it's their fault because they're fundamentally broken in some way. You know, it's all a product of their mind, and it's all that has no base in reality, and it does not seem to be the case.
- [111:26]
Tommy
Well, let's wrap it up, man. This is a lot of information. This is a lot going on. And I want to have you all back on to talk about drugging people in Nazi Germany. This sounds like that could go on forever.
- [111:41]
Top Lobster
Oh, yeah, that would be a fun. Maybe. Maybe you come on our show, talk about. Because I know you have some expertise in some of these, like, historical areas. So let's discuss that.
- [111:49]
Tommy
And then I haven't read, though. I haven't read anything on that. So I'm in the dark on that one.
- [111:55]
Top Lobster
Yeah, don't look up Pervitin, man. Go to toplobsa.com, buy a pervadin shirt. That's their. That was their drug. That basically is meth. And they were giving it to the berserkers, to the soldiers. But it's like, yeah, like. Like we. We touched on before. You know, Hitler's giving speeches from the Pergamon, and we have, well, a genocide on God's people or whatever they're doing. They're working with UFOs, doing some weird. A lot of icon iconography with Zeus and lightning bolts and like that. And then in the backdrop, you've got, you know, methamphetamine, which is the doorway to kick this open to communing with these entities. So I'm like, there's got to be some kind of connection here. There's too many. Too many things. Hitler's tweaking a little too hard for there not to be. No, there should be zero communication with some kind of entity. Not to say Hitler was a bad dude, but, you know, suspicious, like something was going on.
- [112:45]
Tommy
As Bill Hicks says, Hitler didn't. Hitler. Hitler had the right idea. He was just an underachiever.
- [112:54]
Top Lobster
270,000 J. Get your better. Get your numbers up, bro. Get your numbers up.
- [112:59]
Tommy
Yeah, Bill Hicks had a. Had a freaking heckler at one of his shows one time, and the guy was driving him crazy, and he just laid across the stool and he yelled, hitler had the right idea. He was just an underachiever. You should have killed them all, Adolf.
- [113:16]
Top Lobster
Incredible. Incredible, man. I love that guy's show. Now, infowars.
- [113:25]
Tommy
That'S my favorite conspiracy theory.
- [113:28]
David
I saw one just today where they were looking at Bill Hicks and the. And the birthmarks on his neck. And Alex Jones has him in the same spot. I'm like, keep it going, please, please.
- [113:36]
Tommy
Yes.
- [113:36]
David
I hope he is.
- [113:37]
Tommy
Yes, y'all. Plug away, man.
- [113:43]
Top Lobster
Oh, fine. I will go first. Top.top lobster.com. we have all new merch and stuff like that. Go there. Obviously, I'll let you do Nephilim desk, but go to check out Tower Gang if you like some of the offensive that we said that I said Tower Gangs, our weekly show we do with Clint Russell, who's like of some kind of political commentator. Jose Galison, a name Toad and another named Cole. And it's. It's a fun show. So go there, give it a try. You gotta listen to two episodes because the first if you listen to one, you'll be like, I don't like this. But yeah, that's where I'll be at Wednesday. And then go ahead, David, plug away.
- [114:19]
David
You can find Nephilim Death Squad anywhere. We're all over YouTube and rumble. If you are looking for some perks and a little audio content.
- [114:28]
Top Lobster
Our audio. Go to our audio. Yeah, we prefer you listen on Spotify.
- [114:33]
David
Which the vast majority of people are listening to podcasts, so you can find us Spotify, Apple, podcasts, all that good stuff. I also do a show called Timeline Cleanse that just went up on Apple and Spotify, so I have a lot of catching up to do, 40 episodes to upload there. But you could find that show on Rumble. It's pretty much a Rumble exclusive otherwise. And buckle up because it's a really, really rough show. It's comedy based, but we watch a little, a lot of harrowing content and then make fun of it. And also you can find me at David L. Corbo on Twitter. Also find us at Nephilim Death Squad on Instagram. And I think we even got a Facebook group now too.
- [115:12]
Top Lobster
Yeah, Top Lobster on Twitter and Instagram and all that. We're on all the social media, so type in our names. Top Lobster, David El Corbo, Nephilim Deskwad. Find us. We like. We want to hear from you.
- [115:24]
Tommy
Badass. All right, I'll stop the recording now.
- [115:29]
Top Lobster
The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room.
- [115:35]
Tommy
It is constantly telling us what to believe is real.
- [115:38]
Top Lobster
If you can persuade them that what they see with their eyes is what.
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John Morgan
There is to see.
- [115:45]
Top Lobster
Because they'll lack in the face of.
- [115:47]
Tommy
An experiment that portrays the bigger picture of what's happening.
- [115:52]
Top Lobster
And they have.
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