Neph 2 America Full House Edition w/ Paranoid American & Mattt

Summary

Podcast Summary: Neph 2 America Full House Edition w/ Paranoid American & Mattt

Podcast: Nephilim Death Squad (TopLobsta Productions)
Episode: Neph 2 America Full House Edition w/ Paranoid American & Mattt
Date: May 22, 2026
Hosts: David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobsta), Matt Hefner
Guests/Contributors: Paranoid American (Thomas), rotating contributors

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Overview: Main Theme

This episode of Nephilim Death Squad's "Neph 2 America" brings together its core cast and friends for a "Full House" conversational deep-dive into recent mainstream media disclosures about UFOs and aliens, connecting the current news cycle to classic conspiracy tropes, biblical cosmology, and spiritual warfare. With their signature mix of Christian comedy, irreverence, and intellectual skepticism, the squad investigates the real meaning and intent behind public “alien disclosure,” broad conceptions of spiritual deception, and how society is (or isn’t) responding to epochal shifts in worldview. The episode weaves in biblical studies, cultural commentary, and a plethora of conspiracy themes—while sparing no punchlines about the state of American society, the church, and the Overton window of acceptable belief.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Mainstream “Alien Disclosure” & Fox News Segment

Timestamps: 03:10–13:00

• The episode opens with the hosts reacting live to a Fox News segment announcing the release of Pentagon UFO files, highlighting how mainstream media is now entertaining alien narratives that used to be fringe.
• The crew humorously parses the mainstream’s listing of alien species: Grays, Nordics, Insectoids (Mantis), and Reptilians. Thomas & co. riff on the various interpretations:
  • "Palladians, Rakes, Greys, and Reptilians." – Thomas the Paranoid American (05:46)
  • The hosts discuss the comedic angle the news takes and how introducing such topics with humor makes them socially digestible but still fringe enough to avoid serious scrutiny.
• Paranoid American observes: “It’s wild though — Fox News is just pulling stuff from podcasts now. That dude’s a podcaster. We make the news. We're the authority on information warfare.” (05:10)
• They debate classifications—are “Nordics” and “Pleiadians” the same? Is the “cowled” insectoid canonical?
  • “Four different species available. So we're going to get into this in this. No." – (05:32)

Notable Moment:

• The sudden normalization of what were once conspiracy-theoretical talking points; a sense that “we” (the fringe) have become both targets and instruments of information campaigns.

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2. Societal Response & Psychological Framing of Disclosure

Timestamps: 13:00–23:34

• The crew pushes back on the mainstream circus around UFOs, noting that partial disclosures (“just the tip,” as they joke) are managed, slow, and seem to lack public impact: "They said, can we do disclosure? And overwhelmingly the public said, just the tip. And so that's what they did. Just the tip for now." – David (09:44)
• Matt remarks the change is still monumental:
  • “The foundational principles of how you live your life has been fundamentally shifted as of this day, the disclosure day…What's happening here is the government is telling you that everything you've believed or didn't believe is completely true or untrue. So the dynamic has shifted.” (13:51)
• They reflect on why the public seems apathetic:
  • “No, I'm saying I thought they came out with like, they said, okay, we did disclosure. And everybody was like, nobody even cares.” – Thomas (09:29)

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3. Aliens, Demons, and Biblical Worldview

Timestamps: 24:14–43:00

• The team rehashes the perennial debate: Are aliens in fact a cover for biblical demons, or are they a separate physical phenomenon?
  • “Where you at on our argument...aliens being demons or demonic?” – Matt (26:12)
  • "Does it have to be physical, or does it have to be spiritual?...the spiritual could just be another brand of these," – Contributor (26:28)
• They fold in Mike Heiser's scholarship on the Elohim—the plural nature of spiritual entities in scripture, and how this leads conspiracy theorists to consider ancient astronaut theories as possible “rebrands” of old gods/demons.
• “Much of the information that leads me to be like aliens are a demonic deception comes from the fact that these entities that I believe are the Elohim rebrand over time...” – David (42:34)
• Segue into how governmental and media handling of UFOs might reflect long-running efforts at “phased” disclosure and “multi-generational rebranding” of supernatural realities.

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4. Societal Desensitization, Numbness, and Paradigm Shifts

Timestamps: 53:13–56:55

• The hosts discuss strong parallels between society's apathetic response to alien news and its indifference to increasing violence or unusual events (“the Russian girl stabbed in the neck,” “no one helping,” “numb to everything”).
• Analogies: 9/11, COVID, and now alien disclosure as epochal events fundamentally shifting social norms, but leaving new generations unable or unwilling to recall what “changed.”

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5. Race, Preference, and the Metaphor of Alien “Integration”

Timestamps: 66:11–73:31

• The conversation analogizes racial preference to the future possibility of “alien integration,” pushing the provocative question: If Grey aliens or Reptilians moved onto your block, would you want your family mingling with them?
• “You tall white...No, no.” – Thomas, on not wanting ‘tall white’ alien descendants (68:21)
• Discussion critiques both woke inclusivity (as easily reprogrammed) and tribal bias as extensions of basic human preference, mirrored in hypothetical reactions to extraterrestrial “others.”

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6. Transhumanism, Technology, and Perversion of Dominion

Timestamps: 82:03–94:46

• A shift into transhumanism: infamous surgical transitions, fish-skin vaginas, and the mutilation critique as the ultimate “dominion over nature” gone wrong.
• “It's just this world against God. Yeah. And almost saying like, yeah, we're in control down here. We do whatever we want.” – Thomas (89:11)
• The group lands on the argument that modern technological and gender experiments are a blasphemous outgrowth of the biblical “dominion” mandate, blurring the natural/divine boundary.

Memorable Quote:

• “I watched a movie recently called Greenland and it's about, like, an asteroid impact. Just bring on the asteroid. Just wipe the slate clean, you know, Bring on the fire. I wouldn't feel so bad if I saw it.” – David (84:06)

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7. Orthodox Church, Protestant/Catholic Distinctions, and Gatekeeping Salvation

Timestamps: 99:29–108:15

• Matt and David take issue with Orthodox and Catholic churches for institutional gatekeeping, especially stories of charging for baptism and tying salvation to church membership.
• “So now not only are you gatekeeping salvation, which is given freely, but you're charging for it...What you're doing is an actual heresy.” – Matt (106:17)
• The roundtable explores distinctions between Protestant, Catholic, and Orthodox modes, finding all overly institutional and lacking transparency compared to a “straight Bible” approach.

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8. Magic, Freemasonry, and the Occult Roots of Empire

Timestamps: 109:06–113:03

• Briefly, the crew touches on (ex-Freemason) Sean Stone’s claim that John Dee and occult practices were fundamental to the rise of the British Empire, and how historical magic and Rosicrucianism are woven into elite narratives.
• Parallels are drawn between scripting society through myth (Tempest, Shakespeare) and scripting disclosure/reality via media.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Christ is king.” (03:11, Contributor)
• “Fox News is just pulling stuff from a podcast now.” (05:04, Thomas)
• “It's the slowest rollout. Like, what we're getting right now, would be part of it. And eventually we might get technologies or something.” (27:42, David)
• “I want my grandkids to look like me.” (66:02, David/Matt)
• "If you want a private baptism ... so now not only are you gatekeeping salvation, which is given freely, but you're charging for it." (106:17, Matt)
• “Nothing has been the same since. You live in a fundamentally different culture because of that event.” (56:18, Matt, on 9/11/COVID/Disclosure)
• “If you leave the scales on, then it's not [a wound that closes].” (83:27, Co-host discussing fish-skin surgeries)

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Selected Timestamps for Important Segments

• Opening Banter & Fox News UFO Coverage: 03:10–08:00
• Public & Media Response to Disclosure: 09:41–13:51
• Aliens, Demons, and Biblical Worldview: 24:14–43:01
• Shift in Social Paradigm (9/11, COVID Analogy): 53:13–56:42
• Race, Preference, Future “Alien Integration”: 66:11–73:31
• Transhumanism/Trans Surgery Segment: 82:03–94:46
• Orthodox/Protestant/Catholic Discussion: 99:29–108:15
• Magic and Empire/Cultural Scripting: 109:06–113:03

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Tone and Style

• Irreverent and humorous: Hosts often break into banter, offensive jokes, and wild analogies—using humor as both shield and scalpel.
• Biblical skepticism with Christian foundation: Strong emphasis on spiritual warfare and a biblical worldview, with suspicion toward mainstream religion and eschatological seriousness below the surface.
• Conspiracy-laden, meta-aware: Regularly turning the lens back on themselves, questioning their own role as “weaponized” podcasters in the ongoing info-war.

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Conclusion

In this marathon episode, Nephilim Death Squad delivers a chaotic, funny, deeply skeptical, and at times uncomfortable exploration of the meaning behind modern “alien disclosure,” the sociopolitical programming of America, and the spiritual consequences of abandoning biblical discernment for new cultural narratives—whether in the shape of UFOs, gender, or institutional religion. The episode is a perfect snapshot of the show’s mission: equipping, provoking, and challenging its audience to stay curious—and stay, in their words, dangerous.

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For Full Quotes or Debates, Refer to Timestamps Listed Above. End of main summary.

Transcript

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[Matt Hefner]

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[Interjection/Chorus Voice]

It's.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Neft to America is recorded in front of a live studio audience. Viewer discretion is advised. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of Neph to America. Your cultural commentary for the end of days. I am David Lee Corbo, AKA the Raven, is Top Lobster, the father of disinformation.

[Matt Hefner]

Well, hello there.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

And we are joined today by Matthew Hefner, the.

[Matt Hefner]

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[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

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[Matt Hefner]

No, we're doing the Patreon.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

All right, fine. Never mind. Matt, I'll tell you who's here in a second. But before I do that, you want to pay us. I want you to as well. Patreon.com forward/nephilim death Squad is the place to do that. Early access to episodes, ad free listening experiences, access to private NDs communities filled to the brim with dangerous and also discount codes off of merchandise from top lobster.com that's also where you can get Bohemian Grove tickets. Some people were asking questions like, what about hotels? You have like all this drop down.

[Matt Hefner]

Yeah, I mean, I. I went through painstaking detail here.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah.

[Matt Hefner]

And nobody seems to care.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

I literally didn't answer. I was about to type out a thing and I said, you're. I. I'm not going to tell you. Anyway, that's where you go to get your general admission tickets. That gets you into the door. We have great guests.

[Matt Hefner]

Great guests.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Hanging out with us is less joining us and more hanging out with us, because that's what this show is about. Neft to America is a little bit different. We are joined by. I said it anyway.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Huh?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Thomas the paranoid American and Matthew Hebner. Guys, round of applause. Do we have the round of applause? But I don't have that.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

You'll never know if I'm watching the chat today because of the shade. So this is going to be a very fun episode. Oh, there we go.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Thank you.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

All I want to say is, Christ is king.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Amen Amen. Christ is king. We have a lot of fantastic stuff that we're going to get into today. I don't know which front we should start, actually. You know what? Let's just get this out of the way here. We're going to start with the thing that I'm not sharing at all to the audience. Apparently there was an announcement today on Fox News. I use the announce, the, the word announcement very loosely because, truth be told, I've not watched this at all. So I don't know if it would constitute an announcement. But it is of the alien variety. So here, I'm not going to spoil it. Let's get into it. Jesse Waters, he's a homosexual from Fox News. And, and he's.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Same hairdo, bro.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah, well, that's where I get. I get all my fashion advice from homosexuals. Is this wrestling Is Jesse Waters Primetime. This looks like a wrestling promo here.

[Matt Hefner]

Let's. Let's let it go.

[News/Documentary Narrator]

We are not alone. The Pentagon released the UFO files a few weeks back. And we just found out over a billion people have visited the site. A billion. It's got to be a record. The War Department says more files will be released soon. UFO experts and top researchers have been investigating aliens for years. Their sources say dozens of crashed UFOs have been recovered. And what they found inside. Shocking.

[Matt Hefner]

Do people think that, oh, we went

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

straight to a black dude. This is a crazy turn of event. He's got stuff.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

He's got cool stuff.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

I actually didn't see this coming. I didn't think we were gonna go straight to a black dude for hours.

[Matt Hefner]

Looks like he's recording in the library.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Why does this say, quote? Was this here? This looks like it was here. Right in the back of the standard coffee shop. The diary of a CEO, by the way. I don't know why it says that in quotations up at the time, but let's see what this black guy has to say.

[Matt Hefner]

Many non human intelligence that's visiting the Earth.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Or is there many, many types?

[Matt Hefner]

People who have been involved in recoveries have said there are at least four types. Four separate types.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

He was in the show.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

We watched Raven, Age of Disclosure, the documentary, the Lou Elizondo Hero's Journey Story.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Fox News is just pulling stuff from a podcast now. That dude's a podcaster. I'm just saying, like, look how crazy the planet is.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

You know why, dude? Because we are now.

[Matt Hefner]

Yeah, we make the news.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

We make the news. We're the authority on information information warfare. And podcasters have come out on Top.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

That's wild, though.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

It is wild.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

I have not had direct access to

[Matt Hefner]

that, but I. I believe the people

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

who I talk to.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Four different types of life, four different

[News/Documentary Narrator]

types of life, four different species available.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Four different. So we're going to get into this in this. In this here. Let's make. Bring this on the four. No.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Well, just based on my history with you guys, my short history, I think

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

that's a fair thing to do. We can do that. I know the answer.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Palladians, Rakes, rays.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Did you say Rakes?

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

And Reptilians.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

I love how this is, how deep you're in, though, bro. He said rakes and you recoiled. Yeah, because it breaks you dumb it.

[Matt Hefner]

What are we doing? What have we been doing here, dog?

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

It's the Reptilian slash, Draco slash, Saurians, depending on. And they actually don't like to be called ets.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

I'm already erect. That was great, guys.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Interstellar citizens, what they prefer to be called.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Right.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

But you've got the grays, you've got the Nordic slash. All the other, like, white people versions of aliens. Yeah, the Dracon Reptilians, which is where

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

black people came from, by the way.

[Caller (Levi Collins)]

There.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

There's the Mantis race, or there's like a ethereal spiritual version

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

I'm tracking.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

You're tossing up on either spiritual plasma organic kind of thing, or.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Well, that's a race. There's an entire race of aliens which are spirit.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

But I'm saying what's going to be mentioned in this clip, because right now you're. You're crushing.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

I mean, Reptilians have got to be at the top.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Sure, sure. And I'm gonna go ahead and say. Yeah.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

And Grays.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

I don't know about Mantis.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Okay. I don't think.

[Matt Hefner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

You don't think we're ready for games

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

are on the ships with the Palladians and Grays, Right?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah, they are Nordics.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Is Nordics and Palladians the same thing?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

They're kind of interchangeable. Some people try to say there's a line of delineation to be drawn. I don't think so.

[Matt Hefner]

I think you got big whites, nor thick whites. Thick whites, thin whites, tall whites.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah, it's all the same thing. All right, well, here, let's.

[Matt Hefner]

Let's see.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Means business.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

420. I thought the same thing, man.

[News/Documentary Narrator]

Another scientist called them Grays, Nordics, Insectoids and Reptilians.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

This is exciting.

[Matt Hefner]

We're going full blown crazy. Are you excited about that?

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Thomas, this is so surface level. I wanted to talk about how the planet Tiamat tried to use the intergalactic cosmic web as a weapon, but it backfired and they exploded. And the top 1% of the elite of Tiamat had to escape to the moon, which is actually a starship.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yes.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

And inside the moon, they try to make another attack. It also failed. And now the inside of the moon is littered with dead bodies. And if you were to pressurize it and go inside the moon, you would just smell the stench of. I think it's like 400,000 dead aliens.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

But that's what nothing smells in space because there's no oxygen.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

You pressurize it.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, wait, wait, wait, wait. Are you composed in any meaningful way if there's no oxygen, or are they still fresh?

[Matt Hefner]

Why are you being such a conspiracy hipster? Like, this is. This is fun. This is cool.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Well, it is exactly what Daddy said when he came on the show, right? He goes, well, they have the cowls, and there are also the Nordic guys

[Matt Hefner]

with the clip heads.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

It's interesting because he did, like, this is exclusively what he named on our show.

[Matt Hefner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

It's almost like he knew. He knew.

[Matt Hefner]

Well, apparently he had a little bit of a crash out on Frank's show because. Really? Yeah. I don't know, I was reading somewhere that, like, Daddy crashed out a bit

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

because Daddy crashed out.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Who's Daddy?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Timothy Alvareno.

[Matt Hefner]

How dare you.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Yeah, you probably don't want to call him that.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Well, you don't have to call him, but it's. Now, since I've apologized to him. It was actually in the. He said, I'm willing to accept the apology. You have to call me publicly Daddy from now on. He thought that was more of a gotcha moment, but I was, like, happy to. Yeah. So I don't really feel any way about it.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

You have to make it, like, overly sexual now, just so he's uncomfortable every time you call him Daddy.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Daddy. Daddy.

[Matt Hefner]

Well, Daddy a daddy crash out a little bit on Frank because. And I get it, like, people are not on Frank, but on his show. I got to watch it. But people are making a mockery of his work because they're. Yeah, they're like. They're like, oh, you're full of shit. You're a grifter. Oh, like, it seems like we did a number.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Did we do that? Was that us?

[Matt Hefner]

Chad?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Who else was taking shots at Timothy Albarino in any meaningful way over the last couple of months?

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

What about this news?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Are you Reading the chat?

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

No, I'm saying I thought they came out with like, they said, okay, we did disclosure. And everybody was like, nobody even cares. Didn't they do disclosure like a week ago?

[Matt Hefner]

Yeah, it was a light disclosure.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

It was mostly about craft, but initially nobody cared.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

The mushroom, they said, can we do disclosure? And overwhelmingly the public said, just the tip. And so that's what they did. Just the tip for now it's going

[Matt Hefner]

exactly as I, as I suspected, though, it's like, okay, they're gonna give you craft and other menial. Now they're doing this nice introduction of nhi.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah.

[Matt Hefner]

And then they're going to start to declassify or classify or create classifications of what they are. So, like, the slower. This is what I'm saying. I know this is all old hat.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

You're supposed to be having fun, Thomas.

[Matt Hefner]

But this is fun.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Having fun.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Those people back there, they're not.

[Matt Hefner]

When they go home and they turn on their tube TVs, they're gonna.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

You're very mad at them. You're very mad.

[Matt Hefner]

Don't touch my wires.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Well, by the way, we are doing a thing. I guess I'm, I'm, I'm leading the thing. I don't know what it's going to look like, but we're gonna do live presentations here the second Thursday of every month where we, we put flyers out and then we're going to let them show up.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Normies.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Normies. And we're going to go, hey, look, Jesse Waters, the, the, the well groomed homosexual man from Fox News is telling you that there are Waters always have

[Matt Hefner]

two T's in his name, or is this a Mandela effect?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

What Waters is, is spelled with one T. What are you talking about?

[Matt Hefner]

No, it's two.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

And the Mandela effect also has been attributed to the intergalactic war between different alien races. I don't know if you keep stopping,

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

stopping us by putting us on different timelines.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Correct.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it.

[Matt Hefner]

Oh, here, let's make this sense.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

That finish up is his spiel of

[News/Documentary Narrator]

them have two arms and two legs, just like us. Experts speculate the reptilians are scaly with long tails, like a lizard. Insectoids look like a praying mantis. The grays look like your classic movie Aliens.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Like it's a movie. I gotta say, by the way, that

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

image that they're showing, I'm pretty sure is a flare.

[Matt Hefner]

That's a Tic tac, isn't it?

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Look at the way he's talking. It doesn't feel like this is the news. It feels like he's like mocking it and doesn't believe it.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Well, yeah, because if you introduce it with some levity at first, as if you don't believe it, but then show this is actually what you were just talking about on straight Bible or where you're from with Matt, where if you introduce a thing with a tinge of humor, it's much more palatable. And then you can kind of also say, but look, here's some evidence. Whatever that evidence looks like, I don't

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

know how to debunk you or discredit you for mentioning it. Can you tell I was joking?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

You're gonna make fun of me because I was joking.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Right, right, right.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Well, that's a brilliant scheme, dude, I won.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Got that from Fox News.

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[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah, that's right. Jesse Waters stole it from the paranoid American here. Let's let him finish up. Maybe he. Maybe he'll introduce some. Some evidence, you know, to his claims.

[News/Documentary Narrator]

And the Nordics look like a regular Swedish guy, but 7ft tall.

[Matt Hefner]

Crazy that we're getting this right, but

[News/Documentary Narrator]

Pete Hegseth says more evidence is coming and there are a lot of believers in Congress.

[TikTok Ad Narrator]

I have seen evidence in a skiff that leads me to believe there are

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

things we cannot explain.

[TikTok Ad Narrator]

And I have observed things that are of non human origin and creation. That's my opinion.

[News/Documentary Narrator]

Releasing the files isn't easy. They've been hitting for years and a lot of people want to keep it that way.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Problem we have right now is the deep state.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Who's this virgin kept his word.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

And I suspect some of our not so friendly.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

That's not a Nordic.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

That's actually not. That's not neck skin. That's his cowl.

[Matt Hefner]

Show me your clipboard.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Let me see your cowl. Yeah, so I mean, this is, I guess, yeah, it's nothing groundbreaking, but.

[Matt Hefner]

No, this is groundbreaking. This is. So this is like when I tweeted that we're gonna go back to that in a year or so.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

What was that?

[Matt Hefner]

When I tweeted like, hey, the foundational principles of how you live your life.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

I thought he said, where orthodox is full of faggots. Well, yes, that's a different tweet.

[Matt Hefner]

It has been fundamentally shifted as of this day, the disclosure day, the day that they say that they're going to start disclosure. And everybody goes, you're a faggot, Danny.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

And it's the day the movie comes out.

[Matt Hefner]

People said that to you? Well, it's not. It wasn't the day the movie came. It was like a couple of weeks ago. It was the. It was the week that those Protestant pastors claimed that they had that meeting with government officials.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yes.

[Matt Hefner]

And I go, doesn't matter if it's real or not. Doesn't matter what we think about it. Doesn't matter what's released in this initial drop. What's happening here is the government is telling you that everything you've believed or didn't believe is completely true or untrue. So like the dynamic has shifted to

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

that guy that was cutting my hair today who was going like, yeah, there's just a lot of planets out there,

[Matt Hefner]

but I don't know if they have life though his shit.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

He's going to get entire world is done.

[Matt Hefner]

His worldviews.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

You watch that movie in preparation for your debate with your daddy.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah, your dad. Your daddy too, dude.

[Matt Hefner]

Daddy in general.

[Caller (Levi Collins)]

Yeah.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

You know, the whole vibe of that movie was like this just feels like covet this.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

It was Operation Mockingbird for Alien Disclosure. It was giving you your talking points and it was losing so much repetition in order to drive it home. It was almost hypnotic in its nature. You know what I mean? So when you see the media get together and they say, you know, scholars stormed a mall today. And then you, you find that same exact story said in that exact same phrasing, in the same cadence across hundreds of local news stations. Yeah. Or they use those phrases like safe and effective. Safe and effective. You know, that kind of a deal. Yeah, you got to get it up

[Matt Hefner]

in your mouth, Thomas. You look, you don't look as convinced as from my statement as everybody else is. So what's the problem?

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

What am I supposed to be convinced?

[Matt Hefner]

I can't tell.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

I just can't.

[Matt Hefner]

I.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

He just lives in a different moment.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

So this is the disclosure. And I know people are. They're getting their minds blown because Jesse Water just mentioned these four Reptilians.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

But as he's talking about that, my mind's going to the fact that Dwight D. Eisenhower's great granddaughter claims that she was recruited as a five year old to get transported to the planet Mars, trained for 20 years in Martian warfare, and then they age, regressed her to a five year Old and sent her back onto the planet. This is Dwight the Eisenhower's great granddaughter.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Do you think she was a particularly lethal five year old after that like other kids on this? Because you have. I was thinking about that the other night I was trying to go to sleep baddest on the playground and I was saying like what if you could put my consciousness back into me when I was like 14? And I think that I, I would just. Do I get the motor skills that I have now, like all the martial arts stuff that I know and all that and you put that into a 14 year old's body. Would I be able to just start up everybody at school or would I be limited by the 14? And I know you'd be limited in some sense, but my question is, among the other five year olds, was she capable of violence?

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

I don't think so. Because. Because typically if you're a star seed that's trained in the secret space program either on the, either on Mars or on the moon, once they age, regress you back to a five year old, you lose all the information and it's only re enabled another 20 years. So when you basically advance to age 25 on Mars and then once you complete your training, they regress you back to five so that when you come back to 25 again on Earth.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Then you get to relearn and they kind of like turn you back on.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

How old is she now?

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Access that she would be very old now. Yeah, I think she's 50s now.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

I bet you I could beat her ass now. Maybe not at 25 when she remembered everything, but right now I bet you I'd fuck her up.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Unless that she was inside of the moon blasting lasers at you.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

That's true too. That's true. Do you think that has anything to do with the supposed like two minutes that were missing when they went to the moon? Which I'm not so sure. They didn't go to the moon. I go back and forth on this, I'm like, I know we would have faked footage in order to beat China and Russia, whatever. And there was a high likelihood that we couldn't get the footage back because of the radiation belt. But is there a chance that we did get close or went to it and they perceive something? Right. You get those recordings where it's like two minutes of the interactions or, or the response from the astronauts, it goes blank. It goes to a different line supposedly like a medical line or something like that where they're complaining that something is in the crater and they can see it. They can confirm that this thing is there. In other words, I'm doing a bad job of expressing it. It's. It's like alluding to. They saw some alien when they were on the moon. And that makes the thing a lot messier. So where we think we didn't go to the moon at all. It's like we did. That footage is certainly not from the moon. And when we did go, that story is totally different than what we understand.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

I mean, if you wanted to bring that up, but Buzz Aldrin would smack you right in the face for even suggesting that.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Remember that little old, that little Chinese girl where he told the little Chinese girl it was Nancy when she was a kid, had the pleasure of meeting Buzz Aldrin and Buzz Aldrin said, oh, we never went to the moon, you little gook. I'm pretty sure that was. Yeah, I'm not even paraphrasing something, you little. Oh, zipper. Zipper head. What is something like that? I forgot what he called her. Maybe, Maybe there's some correlation there. Maybe that's why he doesn't. Maybe he would act viscerally because he doesn't want to remember what he saw on the moon. All right, let's bring this back up. And here I got it. Boop, boop. And figure out what Tim Burchett has to say. Walking a lot of information.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

It's about power, it's about control. And that's kind of what runs Washington.

[News/Documentary Narrator]

So why is our own government fighting so hard to keep these secrets? Well, a dozen scientists have either gone missing or died. Now, we don't know if that's related, but people are scared to talk.

[Matt Hefner]

One I thought was going to do

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

an interview and then a couple days before sent me a message saying after

[Matt Hefner]

further consideration and long talks with my

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

wife, I decided I'd be forfeiting my life if I participated in your interview. And I thought that was like very chilling, very unsettling message to get, obviously, but also very specific word choice, you know, forfeiting. Who believes that? Interesting interest. I mean, who believes it?

[Matt Hefner]

I don't know. I.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

There was a time where, I mean,

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

you've gotten death threats, right?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Oh, yeah, that's right. But that was for. That was from black people. So that was kind of to be expected. But yeah, I mean, there was a time where if, if these stories got out and it wasn't through a major group, a major news, you know, syndicate, you would go like, yeah, I, I believe that. Like when the whispers used to be after an experience I was visited by an unmarked vehicle. Men dressed in black suits kind of threatened me, you know, in a roundabout way. And I was told to forget about the whole situation. And we would go, oh, the Men in Black, Right. If that same exact story came out through Jesse Waters right now, admittedly, I would go, I don't know about all that, dude. That seems a little bit. That doesn't seem real to me. So I'm caught right now. And I think a lot of us are in the conspiracy realm in this juxt. Juxtaposition between exactly what we've thought was going on this entire time and them confirming or affirming everything that we thought. And now it's kind of, you know, we're doing, like, the Spider man meme. We're all pointing at each other, but we're all kind of saying the same, and we're all accusing each other of being feds. So, you know, Jesse Waters on his show just did something that I. I, you know, previously would have thought was interesting. Incredible. Now.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Now you don't believe in aliens anymore?

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Because Jesse Waters said, yeah, why is there such a. Like, why does this whole thing feel like that? That was supposed to be like, this big thing when they say, yeah, the aliens are real, and it's just like, nobody even cares.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah, nobody.

[Matt Hefner]

I think partially the response from everybody else, like, nobody does care. Those people went in there and did business as usual.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

They don't watch until they get home.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Well, the most interesting part of, like, say, like, the Roswell crash, one of the interesting theories is that that's where we got the transistor from. So there was a direct correlation with aliens making contact. And now we've got some technology that didn't exist before, that we didn't have access in order to create. I don't know if I believe that necessarily, but that's the. The claim was that the transistor was a direct result of technology from the Roswell crash. So any other disclosure, especially if it comes from, like, a UFO or some extraterrestrial force, it needs to be more than just, here's a grainy picture of, like, a shape that could be, like, Boko from, like, a camera lens. It needs to be, like, here is molecular transfer. That has been only a theoretical possibility.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

No, like, here's the alien. Yeah, let's see his ass.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Well, even that image that they were showing on Jesse Water show was playing in the background. It was like a. A flare image. I mean, that in the strictest sense of, like, a lens flare, you know, it has all these spires of light coming off of it. I'm pretty sure that thing has been widely debunked as a flare, an actual flare attached to a parachute, which apparently is not an uncommon practice. In order to slow the descent of a flare to increase the likelihood that somebody who could offer aid would see it, sometimes there's a parachute involved.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

When is the alien going to do a press conference? Like, that's not. That's, like all of this stuff. Everybody's gonna be like, yeah, whatever. Gas is expensive, food's expensive. Like, my job sucks.

[News/Documentary Narrator]

Sure.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Until the alien, like, does a press conference, I don't think that's gonna change.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

I'm still gonna be pouring brown water, baby boy. I don't think that that's gonna change. I think we're just in this weird paradigm where as things are going to get revealed to us, they're gonna happen in such a fashion that if you work at Amazon, you're gonna keep working.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Are they gonna give us an alien at a press conference at some point? Or is it just going to be like, oh, yeah, here's this thing, here's that thing, here's another thing.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Well, here, let me bounce this. Firstly, if they did present something that was flesh and blood, you know, and it was. It was sentient, Want to keep up with everything trendy, from breaking news to shareable jokes, pop culture bites to viral

[Matt Hefner]

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[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

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[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

You know, humanoid, whatever. I would have my doubts. I'd be like, there's no way. I can't get past the idea that you didn't create some chimeric nightmare in a deep underground military base. Thomas, if they showed you that, right, because you've been looking at all this for a long time, what would be your first thought? You see any of the. Here, wait, wait, here.

[Matt Hefner]

Let's.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Let's make it a little bit better. You see one of these guys? Anyone? Pick your poison. Hold on a second, and you tell me what you think. So you've got your mantis species, insectoid height. This is just some dude or a

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

chick on the right.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yes, yes and yes. Largely com or large, compound eyes, highly agile, yada, yada. So you got your mantis, your gray, your reptilian, your Nordic. Let's say they roll any one of these guys out on stage. What's Your.

[Matt Hefner]

Are they gonna roll the gray? They have to.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

They have to roll the classic grape. Yeah, but what's your filter do?

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Kill it and dissect it immediately.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Well, you're not allowed to because it's on tv, right? I mean, you're here at NDS Studios.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Be wild if a sniper hit him,

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

though, and all of a sudden it's breaking, breaking. We get a presidential. You know, what is that little thing called?

[Matt Hefner]

The.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

The alert to our phones?

[Matt Hefner]

And everybody ignores it because it's just filled with, you know, Indians, spam calling you.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

And you see this thing, you look, you know, you open up your phone and it's Trump. And he's standing there, and he goes, we have the best grades. Nobody's got better grades. Doesn't have any grays, but we do.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

What do you.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

What do you. What do you think about it?

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

I would try to see if I could hack into it because everyone knows that a gray is really just sort of a physical suit, kind of like a drone that aliens are either tapping into or they're just using WI fi to kind of control it. So you would want to try and enter.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Everybody knows that's a meat suit that they potentially could put their demon inside.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

They're mobile docking devices for pigeons. So the pigeons that are drones, this is. So they no longer have to.

[Matt Hefner]

Where you at on our argument? The whole argument we had with Daddy about aliens being demons or demonic.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Clearly he's saying that's because the argument was that, no, it's not possible. He's saying, yeah, that's absolutely possible if it's a meat suit and they can put something in it.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Right.

[Matt Hefner]

But the nature of what they're putting in it could be a government agent.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

I don't think you have to pick. Does it have to be physical, or does it have to be spiritual? Like, the spiritual could just be another brand of these. Like, we've got the four. Then there's the fifth. The fifth one is kind of like this interdimensional version of it. So if. If you can actually travel through Corey Good and David Wilcock and shout out to Corey Good.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

He's a. He's a good.

[Matt Hefner]

That's how we got the strike on the channel.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Yeah. Be careful.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

All respected. David.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Even if there is this electromagnetic filament system that they're all talking about, the only way to actually traverse from one side to the other would be if you. For you were able to abandon your physical body at some points, that would go to say that whatever these extraterrestrials Are, sorry, interstellar citizens, that they might not necessarily be bound to some sort of a physical shape. I know you guys are probably familiar with the end of childhood or.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Oh, childhood's end, right?

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

I, I believe that's probably a similar aspect where they would be smart enough to know that you can't handle the real form. So here's a form that you can deal with.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

This is actually, I think that is the most likely outcome given even just how our own government behaves when it comes to these topics. I mean, if you're on the, if your thing is the JFK assassination, how long have you been waiting?

[Interjection/Chorus Voice]

It.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

It seems reasonable, given the, the pattern of history, that if we were to get some sort of, like, real grand disclosure, it would be the slowest rollout. Like, what we're getting right now, you know, would be part of it. And eventually we might get technologies or something. I think that's what a lot of people are interested in is, is a technology aspect. And we might not see. Not that we'd ever get to interact with them, but we might not see that moment that I just described, right, where they stand next to some creature for a really long time. Well, after we've become totally comfortable as a society with them existing, with their technology existing, however they want to frame it for us, whatever they want us to believe, and even the integration of that technology into our own society, which if, you know, if you're a fan of childhood's end, it's a great. I can't read. It's a great series that you can watch on Amazon Prime.

[Matt Hefner]

I believe this is a truth made. A truth post made.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Very funny. Yeah, I like that. He's. He's buff. Because they wouldn't be buff. Like, if I saw that, I'd be like, ah, I don't know if I could beat that up.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

He's too tall to be a gray, too.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

He is too. Well, they have the tall, the tall grace.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

But I want to mention too, like, look at how Fox News itself operated, right, that Rupert Murdoch was in charge of Fox News for decades. But he's not the guy on tv. He needs to put Jesse Waters. He needs to put Bill O'Reilly on TV. Because you're going to relate to Bill O'Reilly's version. If you put robot Murdoch there, you're gonna be like, oh, this guy's the ones calling the shot. I'm not gonna listen to this guy. He's the one that's writing all this. But if I can put a person in front of you and that's essentially what childhood end is. Right. It's like, I know that you'll respond better to this thing. It's just a PR campaign.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Well, I mean, if we're looking at any of these. These creatures here, I don't know that any of these are particularly trustworthy looking. You'd have to. Obviously, would have to be the Nordics because they're white. And honestly, because if they were black. If the Nordics were black, I. I'd have to go, maybe the reptilians.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Looks crazy, man.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

The. The dinosaur ones are a bit of a problem.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

They don't really look like that, do they?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

I don't know that they wear clothes.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

When you say dinosaur you mean the mantis guys?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

No, he means.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Oh, the reptilian. Okay.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

The goomba.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

I mean, eight. Eight feet tall.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

To smell, too.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Reptil.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Sulfur.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Yeah.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Have you ever. I mean, one actually is an insect.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Insecto. Oh. Well, this one's not quite accurate because Daddy told us it wears a cowl. And I'm actually not seeing a cow in this. In this image here. No, no cowl. It's got, like, a big cape and a collar, which is the difference between the insect on the insectoid and second.

[Matt Hefner]

Yeah. Like, the guy that came in with the cape the other day. You remember that guy?

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

I'm sorry.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

He's the final authority on all scripture.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

He had a cape.

[Guest Speaker (Ex-Freemason Sean Stone)]

I don't want to talk about it right now.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

And I don't think any of those aliens are good guys. Every single one of them is basically looking to use humans as slaves in their intergalactic wars.

[Matt Hefner]

Yes.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

None of them are really on our side.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Wait, is it. Are people gonna think, like, yeah, these guys are cool

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

while they're showing you? 4 is so that you can pick the ones that you like the best, even though none of them are the right option.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

It's really like Street Fighter, too.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Like, it's like, some people went to Chon Le.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Me.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Some people went to Ken.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

You went to Ryu. Some people are like, oh, guile.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Same thing. Similar.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

It would be more like, oh, guys, someone drops you off at, like. Like a gay brothel, and they're like, here's the four dudes you can pick.

[Matt Hefner]

Does your mother know you're gay? That's the question.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

And it's like, they're. They're all going to hurt you. It's gonna hurt, but you get to pick.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Yeah. Do you want the green one or you want the tall white one?

[Matt Hefner]

Blap from the word blap came from. Would you rather be blapped by Hulk Hogan or Ozzy Osbourne?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Oh, yeah, because they're both drinking baby blood, so at some point, they raped and murdered children. And if you were one of these children and you had to select, you know, they go, hey, good question.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Wait. Hulk Hogan.

[Matt Hefner]

Hulk Hogan for sure.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Yeah.

[Matt Hefner]

Ozzy Osborne.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

That doesn't make me dislike him. I'm just saying, you guys would know

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

if it was Hulk.

[Matt Hefner]

You're gonna get blapped by way Osborne.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah, because he's. He's not gonna power bomb you. Correct. Yeah. He's not gonna know what That's. Get ready, brother. And then he's gonna put you through a.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

What is blap exactly? Well, like, he's gonna punch me or he's gonna.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

No, he's gonna bang me. He's gonna.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

I don't like this conversation.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

He's gonna blap you up, man.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

I don't know.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

I'll tell you what. You're not gonna be gone.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

I feel Ozzy Osborne still.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah, yeah, because there's a better chance

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

that he'd have whiskey dick than Hulk Hogan.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

That's true.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

No, are we talking fentanyl lollipop Hulk Hogan in, like, his later years?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

No, no, we're talking, like. We're talking. He just got done with a pump. He's. He just slammed filled with testosterone.

[Matt Hefner]

Slam dandre at the garden.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

And he just drank adrenochrome.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Yeah. Ozzy Osborne. Easily. That's not even a question.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

I know. Yeah. It's really not.

[Matt Hefner]

No. I don't know.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Unless you're like. Unless Hulks, you're kind of your hero.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

I mean, I've heard Linda and Linda says that Hulk Hogan was monster.

[Matt Hefner]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Dude, I don't know if Sharon Osborne's ever really, like, bragged about how much of a monster.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

No, I don't think so.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Ozzy Osbourne was.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

I don't think so. I think he's probably mostly tired most of the time.

[Matt Hefner]

We have a phone call.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Is that what's happening?

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Yo, what up?

[Caller (Levi Collins)]

We have a phone call.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

You want to give it to? You want a sandwich?

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

We're gonna put it on there, okay?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

No, we're not gonna put it on there. Hello. Thank you for calling the standard coffee shop casino, NDS studio slash fabrication talking. How can I help you? Hold on. Wait a second. Where's the speakerphone button? There it is. Oh, it's on speakerphone now. It's off.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Hey, can you hear me?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

I can hear you now.

[Caller (Levi Collins)]

Awesome. Hey, man, I just was listening to your guys' podcast on the Awakened. Podcast.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Oh, cool.

[Matt Hefner]

Are you wearing sunglasses right now?

[Caller (Levi Collins)]

You guys were talking about the Queen of Heaven and you had mentioned that it was only in Jeremiah that it was talked about. And I can't place the verse right off the top of my head. You can Google search it. Jeremiah 17, but it's talking about the, uh, the woman that rides the beast. And her bragging when she's speaking is that she sits a queen and am no widow.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Wait, what was the brag Something a queen and I am no widow.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Stop it.

[Caller (Levi Collins)]

It says that she sits a queen and am no widow. And that's in Revelation and it's describing the. The. In the beast, in the harlot.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Hell yeah, dude, that's super interesting.

[Caller (Levi Collins)]

Yeah, the beast on the heart and Revelation. The brag is that she sits a queen and am no widow.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

That's fascinating. That's fair point. What's your name?

[Caller (Levi Collins)]

My name is Levi Collins.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Levi Collins just called in.

[Caller (Levi Collins)]

Dude, I think it's kick ass. Really?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

I mean, this is. You can't.

[Caller (Levi Collins)]

Buddy, I'm actually out here in Nevada.

[Matt Hefner]

You can't just make up a name like that, dude, he can't hear me.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Well, thanks for calling in, dude. Thank you for, for, for watching the show. That's interesting information. It's also very interesting that your last name is Collins and you just called in.

[Matt Hefner]

That's pretty cool.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

And Collins is one of the 13 bloodlines of the Illuminati, is it not?

[Matt Hefner]

They're also elite.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Well, dude, thank you for calling. We're in the middle of this show and now you were just on the show, but want to get more work

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[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

you know. Thanks, man. God bless you.

[Caller (Levi Collins)]

Thank you. God bless you. Take care. Later.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

He didn't say crisis king at the end.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

No, he didn't.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Nobody says that, bro. Who said that?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

The way you were speaking? Like you forgot that house phones don't work like cell.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Mantis just said something. Let her speak.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Go on Mantis.

[Matt Hefner]

I just said Revelation 18:7. Thank you.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah, wow. And what's the line? Am. Am a queen and I'm not a widow.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Yeah, well, Thomas is going to read all about it. He's Pumped for the book. A woman rides the Beast, which is exactly what Levi Collins was talking about.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Oh, and that's by Dave's cunt.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

No, Dave. Dave Hunt is a legend in the game, bro.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

All right.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Okay.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Anti Catholic.

[Matt Hefner]

So that's what it says.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

It doesn't say.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

I mean, it takes 700 pages to say it, but yeah.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

No, he's using Catholic doctrine though, from their own writing. So at least he's not like just throwing crap out.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Which is also fine, though. It's also fine to do that.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

This is like, why are you hitting yourself while you're hitting yourself?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

So here, let's. Let's get into this. This is.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

That's good.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

I wasn't too sure if the. The UFO thing was real until everybody's favorite pseudo intellectual house negro. He said it. He said it. Here, let's. I'm just gonna read it. We'll play a little bit of a. Neil DeGrasse Tyson says the public is ready for the truth about UFOs because credible. Whoa. Credible officials and whistleblowers have testified before Congress. But he still wants physical proof of recovered non humans.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Went away, dude.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Well, this is a guy.

[Matt Hefner]

He never truly goes away.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

He looks real bad.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Looks like Don King.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Is he getting whiter? There's some phenomenon about black people that are in the public light where they get lighter over time.

[Matt Hefner]

Yeah, the limelight does that.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Is that what it is?

[Matt Hefner]

Skin bleaching?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Oh, wait, it's not.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Dude, it has always been so creepy to me, bro.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Was there no fucking volume for this?

[Matt Hefner]

Never mind.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

We're not going to listen to this. There's just no volume for it. I picked the best. The best one ever. That's incredible. Well, but so what's he saying?

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

He's some guy who's a genius. So smart. Was he saying there was aliens 10 years ago?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

He's saying these people of high rank and all sincere, they have said that they've got alien body parts and reverse engineered technologies. The point, I guess is, and he's taking a bit of a beating for this, is that he was a huge skeptic, kind of said that this kind of thing didn't exist for the longest time. Now all of a sudden he finds himself as not. Not an authority, but it's like he gets a huge spotlight. He goes on these, you know, big gay news publications and he says this like, oh, I think it's time. And it's like, yo, dude, this is

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

something that you hurt. Why didn't he know it ahead of time?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Well, that's the thing. And so instead of this working out for him, he's getting dragged, which is nice. And I thought we could have had some fun with that. Well, he's just.

[Matt Hefner]

He's just a public opinion, like, mouthpiece.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yes.

[Matt Hefner]

So he does what he's told. I find it interesting that he's written an entire book on the subject when, yeah, he spent his career saying that it wasn't true. But you.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

I don't know.

[Matt Hefner]

This hasn't been a topic that long for you to write an entire.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

I never thought that dude was that bright. I was just like, oh, he's gonna.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

He's a trend hopper. I don't know if you guys remember when Bob came out and he had a song about how Earth is flat and he was trying to do a Kickstarter to raise money to go out into, like, sub orbit and prove that the Earth was flat and that the moon was all fake. As he's doing this, he. He actually contacted one of my friends that we were working at Disney at the time, and my friend was a 3D animator, and he was trying to get my friend to create a clap back at Bob that was basically making fun of Bob's Earth is Flat, but he wanted to make a music, like a rap music video where Neil DeGrasse Tyson's son was going to be the rapper and like, battle rap back against. But my friend didn't want to do it because my friend was also making music videos for Bob and he didn't

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

want the smoke of conflict of interest.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

He'll be like, hey, how come you're doing this thing? But. But it just showed that they are actual. They're trying to find, like, who are the trendsetters? Who are the people that are spreading these rumors or conspiracy theories and then attack them directly on the exact same playing fields. Whenever I see Neil DeGrasse Tyson realize that he's being used as a countermeasure to meet someone in the public playing field. Like, if you say something on the news now, he has to go on the news. If you come out with a comic book, he has to come out with a comic book.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

That's interesting.

[Matt Hefner]

He was even the guy for Covid for a little while.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah, he's the guy for everything Michio Kaku does. He kind of is. He's a similar character in that regard. I wonder. The Asian. Nobody was the Asian mathematician guy that was opinionated on virtually everything that wasn't mathematics. But that was his whole claim to fame was that he was super good at math. Which is like, yeah, you're Asian. I mean, that's not really surprising or anything like that. But he was up there maybe almost competing for the same spot as Neil DeGrasse Tyson as the. The professional contrarian. Or not. Not contrarian, but counterculture.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Yeah, we don't like Asians in academia right now.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Michio Kaku, you know him? You related? That's my uncle. I actually don't even know if that's not true. So what's interesting about, you know, we're looking at sort of the, I don't know, sterilized version of alien disclosure. On the other side, in much more, our arena, we're seeing this resurgence of Mike Heiser's work. And you're familiar with Mike Heiser's work Somewhat. And I was explaining a little bit to you earlier, I would say a lot of Heiser's work can be summarized by just saying he extrapolates on the idea of the Elohim, and the Elohim being a plural noun that is a designation for where an entity resides. Elohim, meaning, you know, residing within the spiritual realm. And that God, the creator, is an Elohim, but he also has other Elohim around him in his council. And that they aren't like him, but they are also Elohim.

[Matt Hefner]

So what? How does he.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

I forget how he puts it. He's like, they're all Elohim, but. But not.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

It's like entities that live in that realm. Right?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

But God lives in that realm, but so does angels.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

He's never claiming they're equal.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Right?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

That is not what his claim is. He's. He's made a great effort to delineate. Like this is. You know, there's no other Elohim like God, but the other angels and such are Elohim. And, you know, a lot of his work informs our ideas on this show. And you can extrapolate from a lot of what he then goes on to talk about to get to this idea that the aliens are a bit of a deception, that maybe the. The old gods of antiquity were more than just anthropomorphized, you know, earthly elements.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Oh, you're saying that you're tying this all together that they're trying to crush.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

No, no, no, I'm not saying. Right.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

In the time of alien disclosure, it's like, oh, yeah, no, man, the Elohim thing. No, that's B.S. heiser didn't know what he was talking about. These are real aliens.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Well, I'm not saying that that's the effort that's being made purposely. But I am saying that much of the information that leads me to be like aliens are a demonic deception comes from the fact that these entities that I believe are the Elohim rebrand over time. So the same ones that were this pantheon become that pantheon by a different name, but the attributes remain the same. And that I think exactly what we're bearing with is to right now is like a really long multi generational rebrand.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

So.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

So there's a lot of information that goes into that, but at its root is this concept of the Elohim.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Do you think it's a coincidence that Oklahoma City bombing was planned at Elohim City?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

You know what's really strange about the Oklahoma. This is something we never really got to talk about because the guy didn't want to come on the show because he wanted to remain a serious investigator of the Oklahoma City bombing. But he confided in us. I'm not going to say who was, but he confided us. And it wasn't. For those of you who are wondering, it was not Jose Galison.

[Matt Hefner]

There's a guy that mentored.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

No, no. Well, we can't say that. I don't know if we could say that.

[Matt Hefner]

I mean, we can say it. It's okay. Like, is it.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

I mean, it feels like he was like.

[Matt Hefner]

And I forgot his name anyway.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Okay, so that's good.

[Matt Hefner]

But yeah, he's the guy that, like, wrote. He's like the foremost expert on the. The Oklahoma City bombing. Yeah. Good friends. We've been good friends.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

He seems like a solid dude. He was a listener of the show for some time.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

I think I know who you're talking about.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Well, he said that at ground zero, people were seeing angels and. And devils and demons.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Well, if there's actual photo of when the Oklahoma with the Murray building got taken down and the most famous photo of it in the smoke rising. It's got like this demon face.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Inside the actual smoke.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

That happened in 9 11.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

I remember somebody showing me that.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

So I'm not saying that these things are connected at all, but I'm just saying it's an interesting time because we just had aliens or demons go super viral for the longest time.

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[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Now. One of the guys who sort of not really pioneered, but added a lot to that conversation back in the day all at once. And this kind of comes right after the Orthodox debacle, which I can't help but wonder if that's actually what this is because the Orthodox.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Orthodox debacle.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

So the Orthodox church just got its pushed in for, you know, doing a bunch of strange like charging for baptisms.

[Caller (Levi Collins)]

My bad.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Top had a lot to do with that. Not the charging for baptisms, but the showing people that that was happening. Also a lot of weird stuff like saint veneration to the extent that they're keeping their bones rich.

[Matt Hefner]

And I don't want to like.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Well, you definitely just said is so

[Matt Hefner]

what I'm not saying it's a like out him like go look at Richard Booth's. He's got like really great work.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah.

[Matt Hefner]

On the matter. He has some personal beliefs. Like, personal beliefs. And also he has some stuff that he just doesn't put in his academic writings because people are not ready to hear it.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Yeah.

[Matt Hefner]

But all of his other stuff is probably the best work out there. Him. Scott Horton, maybe one more person. I mean really just him and Scott Horton are the people who have the most. Like the largest body of work is@the LibertarianInstitute.com you can check out all that stuff. But they've cataloged it. He just has these specific beliefs. I wonder how we feel about it now. How we feel about. Like what? Because the world is like I was saying before when Thomas scowled at me. We're in a very different paradigm right now. Like, if the government's okay to admit this, then it's okay for Richard Boot to come out and start saying, all right, yeah, we're just going to talk about wild.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

I don't believe that though. I think, I think it's a trap. It's like they're. They're gonna make it seem that you're allowed to come out in the open and say this. But now it's really easy for Jesse. So let's say someone comes out. Not Richard, but someone else comes out. You're like, you know what? I've Been studying this for the last 10 years. I'm glad the dialogues finally hit this level. I can be serious about it now. Jesse Waters. Yeah. They can rug pull him. Be like, yeah, we were laughing. You really believe this?

[Matt Hefner]

Yeah. But here's the thing, though. Like you, I think you're underestimating the dynamic of what Fox News even brings to the T. They're nothing. They don't move opinion anymore. But, yeah, they show the masses where it's safe to go. So it's like, all right, this is warmer water. But what they say doesn't hold any weight for anybody, really. And it's becoming increasingly more that. So that. That's why I'm seeing them. The admission of what them. They. Them are doing is. Is significant to me because not. Not because they hold any weight, but because, like, okay, I see where you're at.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

It's a shifting of the Overton window.

[Matt Hefner]

Yeah. It's like. It's like a dam that's finally cracked. And then they have to admit. So they have to con. They have to move in this direction. We've pulled them in this direction.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

So I've got a really strong, like. Like, psyop vision of this. First of all, I think about how William Cooper came onto the scene, and his whole thing was that he was employed by Naval Intelligence to spread disinformation. And then he found out, or maybe, you know, came to terms and then told everyone, hey, by the way, all this alien disclosure I was doing, that was DOD telling me to lie to you.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

And now I'm not lying anymore. I'm telling the truth about lying, and I'm not lying.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yes.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Now, well, that's kind of the exact same thing that I think is happening here. Here's a good example in that. In the. In the Cold War, there were these rumors that ICBMs, warheads, both in the US and in Russia, all of a sudden, they became inoperable, or they, like, they armed themselves, but no one was actually at the helm. And when they went and tried to shut them back down, they realized they had no control over it. And this had invited all sorts of alien speculation for the last few decades.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Right.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

And basically, you had experts in the military saying, like, yeah, we had no idea what shut all of these ICBMs down. It was like someone had gained control over the whole system. How would they do that in the US and in Soviet Russia and the Pentagon, in 2025, just last year, they came out and admitted that they were leaning into the alien conspiracy theories. And the UFO conspiracy theories, but that in actuality, they were testing emp. Electromagnetic pulse device. And that's why everyone lost control of the ICBMs. But now in the back of my head, I'm wondering, well, what if it really was aliens? And they're just saying, oh, no, no, it was, you know, this EMP that we were testing. So don't worry about the last 20 or 30 years of anomaly research. It was just this thing we're doing. Or maybe it really was what they were doing, but they just admitted that they were promoting alien conspiracy theories for the last two to three decades. So it's. It's hard to tell which of those different angles to believe. Are they doing real disclosure? Are they doing fake disclosure?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

I tend to agree with you, and I think that, you know, top what you said, they're talking about sort of the water is being warm now, and this sort of thing is okay to say, right. The Overton window has shifted to such a degree that now boomers are being introduced to this kind of information. And I do think you're probably right. We did drag them there. But I think we were probably puppeteered in that way. You know, I think there's a dissemination of information.

[Matt Hefner]

We're supposed to be where we are, right?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Matt Hefner]

But we also played a role in.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

We've been weaponized.

[Matt Hefner]

Rolling the ball.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Matt Hefner]

You know, for sure. Acceleration.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

It couldn't have happened without conspiracy theorists. Wait, but we've been weaponized, Thomas.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

You're saying, like, we don't know if the government's given us real disclosure or fake disclosure. But there's no way. That's the question, right? The question is, how fake is the disclosure? Like, there's no way the government's just going to come out. Oh, for sure.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Hey, guys, here's abcdefgh. No, no, it has to be fake. It's just how fake?

[Matt Hefner]

But it almost doesn't matter, right?

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Or you can sneak in a little bit of truth with the fake, or you can sneak in a little fake with the truth.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Like that.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

That's, I think, the real plan.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

That's the mo.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Yeah, there's always you give yourself an out. Again, the same thing where it's like, I was just kidding. You're taking this serious. Yeah, well, I was joking before, but

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

if you are like, oh, cool, the government's coming out and telling us the truth, like, you're an idiot. Just think about what is happening.

[Matt Hefner]

Think about, like, children's textbook. This is how I'm trying to frame It. I know it's stupid. A child's textbooks for social studies in fifth grade. Twenty years from now, it will probably include some of the. That we're talking about today. Like if we continue on this slow path, whether it's true or not, not like the things that the government has said is what is going to be pushed to the. The next generation.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

That's interesting.

[Matt Hefner]

You understand what I'm saying. That's why I'm saying fundamentally different. It doesn't matter if it's true or not. People, they're operating well. Modus operandi is going to be completely different than, than how we grew up. My kids have to grow up in this, in this way.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Now we had this conversation in 2020 where Jess was like, do you guys are going to remember this year the rest of your life? I was like, yeah. Or this is the new norm.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah. And that's what they were calling it. This is the new normal.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Right, Right.

[Matt Hefner]

So yeah, they. Exactly. They're not going to remember it. The generation that's coming up in it, because that's what they will be in.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Yeah.

[Matt Hefner]

It's just very soon. But we'll remember and we'll see.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

It's just.

[Matt Hefner]

I don't think people understand that yet.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah. I mean, I don't know where this goes, but to your point, Matt, they're not gonna. They're going to lie. It's just what lie to. To what degree? And, and for those people in the space. We've had arguments with people because they'll go, oh, you're saying everything is demonic. But there are. There are Elohim that are still in the grace of God. There are good entities. If you're albarino, you seem to think maybe some of them are neutral or they're. They're good ones, but they are aliens. It all gets really confusing. I just don't think that that's what we're going to get disclosed to us. I think we're going to get an inherent deception. It disclosed to us. They're never going to say, hey guys, I'd like you to meet the truth. You know, the Archangel Michael, he's still in the grace of. Of God and he's been here the entire time. Guys, give it up for Archangel Michael. Like, it's not gon happen. We're gonna get some, you know, chimeric nightmare that they cooked up in a. In a dumb or.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

But when they show up, you just go a first say crisis king, then you blast them with holy water with a Super Soaker.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Then you make them drink the. The blood and eat the body of Christ and they can survive all three

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

of them eat the cracker.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Then maybe they're not demonic.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Well, it depends. What are we supposed to do? Is it. Is it like a regular crack, like a Keeblers? Or, like, is there a special one?

[Matt Hefner]

I don't know. Today's society's been like. Like, we've been dumbed down to such a level where we live in ghettos and.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah.

[Matt Hefner]

We've been convinced by the government that we're not supposed to protect ourselves.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

You were arguing with somebody.

[Matt Hefner]

Moving away from a ghetto is, like, racist.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Oh, yeah.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

You know. Well, and just that you're so helpless that you can't take care of yourself. You need this free stuff from the government to survive. Otherwise you couldn't survive on your own.

[Matt Hefner]

Not just that, like, we're living with actual predators, and we're being told that we're not living next to actual super predators, which I agree with. Hilarious. This is a very racial point. But what happens when this gets to aliens? Like, I mean, people already believe this.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

We just.

[Matt Hefner]

We still have not addressed that. That Russian girl that got stabbed in the neck by the guy. I think that.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

That dude.

[Matt Hefner]

They said he wasn't mentally fit to stand trial.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Oh, yeah, she was a Nordic.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

She was a Nordic, and he was a reptile.

[Matt Hefner]

He had it coming.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

He's not laughing.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah, well, she. That guy, by the way, said that he was being. I'm gonna paraphrase this, but this is very serious. That guy who stabbed that lady in the neck. Now, of course, if you. You know, it's far be it for me to not be like, look at the black community, but this dude said he was hearing, like, they. He said they put something in him. Oh, they put something in him.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

This is the guy who trained Train Red Hoodie dude.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah, that guy said that. Nancy, see if you can find that. That.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

And wasn't the news that, like, he stabbed her and nobody did anything?

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

He has shame.

[Matt Hefner]

Irina. Yeah, she stabbed her in the neck. Nobody did anything they wanted.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

I don't know what his name is.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Oh, okay.

[Matt Hefner]

The point I was making, though, is that, like, us as a society, we've been desensitized to this. Like, nobody. Nobody was even. Like, people are mad online. People are mad, but it's largely accepted.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Like aliens.

[Matt Hefner]

No, they're mad about this act. And this is like, a very.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

No one stopped it in the middle of it. But ironically, the last episode of Seinfeld was that everyone goes to jail because they don't stop a riot in, like, a Puerto Rican day parade. Right. It was like. Like the Good Samaritan law. And they all end up becoming bad guys. They don't jump in as a Good Samaritan law.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

But then here we have essentially the inverse of the Good Samaritan law. Like. Like Irena getting stabbed in the neck was basically the inversion of Seinfeld's final episode.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah. Right.

[Matt Hefner]

But also, as a society, the fact that people are not necessarily upset about it, it's just like. Yeah, okay, so we're gonna have. If you can present aliens into this population right now, and they could do any manner of things.

[Interjection/Chorus Voice]

Things.

[Matt Hefner]

And I think people would just be slightly tolerant of it, depending on what they know.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Everybody is just numb to everything now. But you're saying this will be a time that we look back, though. It'll never be the same. Because there was a thing that happened, like, seven days before my 21st birthday, this. Planes hit these buildings. And, like, I remember watching on tv, in the Bill, the plane didn't hit the bottom, it hit the top. And then the whole building, like, crumbled like this. And I wasn't a conspiracy theorist, but I was, like, watching it, and I was like, that doesn't seem like what a building would do if a plane hit at the top. Like, I remember thinking it back then.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

And it happened at two buildings. You got to see the second one on live tv. And I remember. Yeah, there was, like, other ones. And then I remember people saying, oh, nothing will ever be the same. Now we'll all remember this day because nothing will ever be the same.

[Matt Hefner]

Nothing has been the same since you live in a fundamentally different culture because of that event.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

This will be another thing. Is that what you're saying?

[Matt Hefner]

You're like, yeah, like this. That happened. You have Covid. I think this announcement, it's. It's interesting because it's not. It's not like a building hitting the ground. It's not like shutting down. Well, Covid was a little bit of a slow release. I think it's more like that where it's like a slow drip into society, but people just will never be able to pinpoint the moment.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Dude. Yeah.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

If that dinosaur comes out and that was a press conference, that's going to be the moment for most people.

[Matt Hefner]

Right.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

But.

[Matt Hefner]

But, like, okay, so when did World War. When did World War I start?

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Question with this? Or World War II or World War III? Now

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

started with the Ukrainian or have

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

we been in it for, like, years now?

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

World War I was the. The Serbian Black Hand secret society.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Right.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Tucking out.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Oh, yeah, we all know.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Friends.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Oh, Franz Ferdinand. Supposed to be. I mean, I've heard arguments against that, but I don't know. I'm retarded. I don't know anything about history.

[Matt Hefner]

Yeah, it's possible, but were there events before that that people knew about and said, ah, whatever, something just happened here that's fundamentally different?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Right.

[Matt Hefner]

Put my finger on it.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

And also those in the know, would there have been something that some people were aware of that kicked off a thing and, and, you know, who knows? But I do think that we're not going to get answers on that front.

[Matt Hefner]

What we can do the orthodox debacle.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Well, it's not just the orthodox debacle.

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[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Well, by the way, you were arguing with somebody over the bread thing, and I thought that was interesting. I was gonna bring it up a moment ago.

[Matt Hefner]

Yeah, I was just arguing to argue.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah, because they were saying, like, whatever it was here. Here's something that I actually think would be interesting and I'd like to get Matt's thought on this. So somebody said, actually this is the guy we had on the show. Remember the guy that said, don't get redemption or something like that? Yeah, yeah. So that's band pastor. This guy goes, actually, band pastor, he said, you should kill homosexuals today. And somebody called it out. And he got timed out. Absolute. So I guess somebody got banned for calling out this dude for saying that. And then somebody here, Steve Anderson, says, I agree with band pastor. You should kill homosexuals. Leviticus 20:13. So first off, let's. Let's unpack that. What does he mean by that, Matt? Leviticus 20:13. Is that something.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

That's right. A passage. It says, under the law of Moses Stone, homosexual.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

But we're not under the law anymore. So is that the whole. Put that to Death.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

We're not under the law.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

I mean, I mean, I need some Bible explanation here, but my understanding is that the Old Testament were Jesus's dad's rules. But when g. The New Testament comes around, it's like Jesus saying, don't worry about my dad. He's kind of a dick. He's got these really horrible rules.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Totally wrong. Totally wrong. We just read stories today from the Old Testament full of grace and mercy. Elisha saves the whole Syrian army even though he didn't have to. That. That's definitely not it. He. So the Old Testament isn't the law, and the law isn't the Old Testament. The law is within the Old Testament. But there was a time period before the law in the Old Testament. Like Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, they're all pre law. Like all this stuff's before the law. Sure. Then the law is given to a very specific people group for a very specific period of time in a very specific geographic location. Remember, we read those passages.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

But the ultimate meaning is that if you, you call yourself a Christian and you follow the New Testament, then you don't necessarily have to abide by these old laws that are in the Old Testament. You don't have to worry about Leviticus. That's just a cautionary tale from a previous time to a different set of people.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

No, well, not caution.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Yeah.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

I mean, maybe we're kind of saying the same thing.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

It applied to a certain people group in a certain location for a certain time period. And that's not us. But it's not like God the Father's different than Jesus. Like, they're the same God the Father was doing everything out of love. When he.

[Matt Hefner]

He.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

When he flooded planet Earth, it was out of love. It was the best thing he could do for mankind at that time. When he killed all the firstborn in Egypt, it was the best thing he could do for mankind. Like, he is. God is love. Right. And it's just operating a certain way. You get into the New Testament, God's still killing people. Like in Acts, Chapter 5, Ananias and Sapphira come in, they lie, and boom, they get smoked. Right. And like what we would call a church service, the Book of Revelation. God doesn't look like super chill in the Book of Revelation.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

No, no. Right.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

But like, that's all.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

But why do we have to. Why do we have to stop killing the.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

I mean, did anyone say that you had to.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Well, that's an interesting. Because he hates dead air.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Because they don't give him a little dead air. Right.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Now, my thinking, when I see this. When I see this guy, Stephen L. Anderson, and when I see band pastor and they go, we should kill homosexuals,

[Matt Hefner]

I go, what's stopping you?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Okay, go.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Yeah, but isn't.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Yeah. You're saying this guy's just like, go ahead.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

You want to go kill gay people, Go ahead.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Yeah, he's not doing it, but.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Right.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

A long enough timeline that eugenics solves that problem itself.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Right?

[Matt Hefner]

Sure.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Fair point. So the Bible says, I'll know your faith by your works. That's a. That's a great point. If that guy really believed that, he'd be doing well.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

That's my thing. Right. Is.

[Matt Hefner]

Is.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah, if that's something that you really believe, you know, tweeting it is one thing, and I get, like, tweeting an inflammatory banger. It's a lot of fun.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

It probably gets the views or the money or whatever, the people going, yeah, but at the same time, he doesn't believe it.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Go kill these faggots then. Go ahead.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

No, don't do it. I'm not saying that. Don't do it.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

No, no, I'm not. I'm not advocating for that. I'm just. It's more like. It's a snarky way of saying, you're not gonna kill anybody, dude.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Well, okay, let's take a look at, like, on the eugenics. How Bill Gates wants to eradicate what, like a billion people, 10 to 15, and 9 billion people on the planet? Yeah, he's not necessarily. Well, he. But he's not advocating to go out and actually, like, murder people and remove them from the planet.

[Caller (Levi Collins)]

It.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

What he's doing is, like, if I can get these mosquitoes to breed with other mosquitoes, but then they don't realize that the mosquitoes they're breeding with are sterile and they're never going to have offspring, then X +Y less Africans after, like, a long enough period. But he's not saying, go out and kill Africans. He's saying, like, let's genetically alter mosquitoes and then dot, dot, dot, profit.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Right.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Well, here, let's see.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

There is that clip where he says that you can control the population through. What is it, like, birth control and vaccines?

[Matt Hefner]

Right.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Well, the. His logic is that if you do it through birth control and even just through infant mortality rates, that you start to plant this idea in people's heads that you don't need to have 12 kids anymore because you don't got to worry about seven of them being duds, and the other five are the ones that work out right. We're going to improve life so much that you only have to have one or two kids and they'll be fine. You never have to have any more. And that, in his mind, that's the version of eugenics, is that you're only going to have two kids instead of having 12 kids and on a long enough timescale that basically means the eradication of 10 to 15% of the population. Yeah, well, it's not like I'm going to murder those people to remove them. It's that I'm going to take this Fabian Society approach where I plant a little seed now and in 200 years,

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

what does he gain by decreasing Earth population?

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Less. Less poor brokies for his great grandkids to procreate.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Oh, yeah, that's true, too.

[Matt Hefner]

More resources, too, right? Yeah. It's like, you see, that was really. With the black dude. I'll be honest. I was in. On vacation. It's up, it's up. I was on vacation. I was at the hotel.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

You got a great tan on vacation, by the way.

[Matt Hefner]

Thank you, Matt. And I was just seeing a guy, a grandfather, clearly. A grandfather.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yes.

[Matt Hefner]

His kid at the Splash or his. His Splash Pad. Kids. Black.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah.

[Matt Hefner]

And I turned to my wife and I go, not me.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Grandpa kept turning his back, hoping someone would kidnap him.

[Matt Hefner]

No, I mean, listen, you love your kid, you love your grandkid, but I'm just like. I could see why. Yeah, like, yeah, like, that could be anybody's kid. If I would have stopped and be like, yo, stop talking to that kid. Like, you don't know that kid.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah.

[Matt Hefner]

I would have been well within my rights to be very, like, very suspicious.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Put that black baby down.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw some video of some dude following a guy through the city.

[Matt Hefner]

Matt thinks it's messed up, but it's kind of like, I don't know.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

No, no, no, I. You.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

No, if you have the kid, you're gonna love the kid, right? If that's your grand.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

For a second, I gotta be honest. I'm sorry.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

He was just staring. The chat in the reflection. What are you saying?

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

You were at the. The pool this weekend on the vacation and somebody grabbed a black baby? I don't know. I think. Feel like that's what I heard. Like, what?

[Matt Hefner]

He brought. He brought his. His grandkid.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Okay.

[Matt Hefner]

To the, like, the hotel and they were doing a vacation. Grandkid was black, doesn't look like him. And I'm just kind of like. I'm looking at him like man, it's just so much.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Wait, so I don't understand. Like, what. So what was wrong? Like, what was the issue?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

You know what was wrong.

[Matt Hefner]

What was wrong is that they stood in. They stood in contrast to each other.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Oh, you're saying the grandpa did not look like the grandchild. Yeah.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

And the grand could, I assume had. Stole grandpa's wallet.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

That's how you knew. Yeah.

[Matt Hefner]

Bicycle. Yep.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Stole a bike.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Okay,

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

so what.

[News/Documentary Narrator]

What.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

What was your point? That you would say, hey, something's not right here.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

I've said not my black baby.

[Matt Hefner]

What I'm saying is just like, I get it.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

They're like, the baby got kidnapped. Is that what you're saying? I should go ask what's going on in the situation.

[Matt Hefner]

I understand.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Do you know the Hulk Hogan thing?

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Thing?

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

No.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Okay. That's the problem.

[Matt Hefner]

Yeah. His daughter was like, blinging a banging a black guy, and he, like, didn't like it.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

And he said, I want my grandkids to look like me. Was it like,

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

that's what he meant, but that's what he meant when he dropped.

[Matt Hefner]

That's the implied part. And if I act like. If I act like, no, there's no big deal for me, I'm lying.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

I don't know. I'm a little different than that. Dude. I heard a long time ago when I was super high that killer whales go, like, to the other end of the planet to breed. Need to, like, find something way out of their gene pool.

[Matt Hefner]

I'm not a whale.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

I'm just saying when I.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

When I saw that, you know, killer whales are the same color.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Okay.

[Matt Hefner]

I want my. I want my grandkids to somewhat look like me. So, like, that way, when I'm in public with them, I could be like, yes, this is of my lineage. Look at my bloodline. Look at. This is what I am passing down.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Wait, and it's bad if they have a different skin tone?

[Matt Hefner]

For me. Yeah. I just don't give a. Anymore. Yeah. For me, I don't. I would not want to lock up

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

all those bikes when your grandson comes over.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Don't want your daughter dating theirs parents son because she's Spanish.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Word.

[Matt Hefner]

That's great.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

No, that's not great.

[Caller (Levi Collins)]

Why not?

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

She might fall in love with a white guy.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Dude, like, you have to beat her again.

[Matt Hefner]

That's her choice. I'm just saying, like, I'm not gonna lie.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

It's hard to understand.

[Matt Hefner]

I'm not gonna lie about my preference.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

This.

[Matt Hefner]

This goes back to this idea.

[Liberty Mutual Ad Narrator]

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[Thomas the Paranoid American]

But if two Humans love each other.

[Matt Hefner]

To the idea of the aliens. I know, but what you're saying is just goy slot. You're saying what you've been programmed to say.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

That's right.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

What are you talking about? Humans love each other. I don't care what skin color they have. You're saying that's bad.

[Matt Hefner]

I'm not. I'm saying, what do you prefer? Not what is bad or what is.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

I don't care. Hair color.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

I sound like a real Oro bro right now.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

It's just, if two people are in love, dude, they're meant for each other.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

They're compatible regardless of gender and age.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

I never had.

[Matt Hefner]

Thank you.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Amy gets it. Amy gets it. It's just. It's.

[Matt Hefner]

For me, it's psychotic. It's psychotic to go like. It's like looking in the mirror and going, I hate that. That, like. No, I look in the mirror and I'm not like, oh, look at me. Filled with vanity. But I go. I look in the mirror and I go, okay, yes, that's. That's good.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Make more of this.

[Matt Hefner]

Make more of this in the world. And you know what?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

When you. And you and you.

[Matt Hefner]

When you look in the mirror, you

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

should do the same thing.

[Matt Hefner]

You should be biased towards yourself.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

No, I. I like myself. I'm not saying I don't.

[Matt Hefner]

Other people, too. This is a crazy racial point, but again, extrapolate that down to aliens. Present aliens into society. And this is. I feel like that's what we're getting.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Another species. I don't want my family or my descendants.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

So now you're. Now, what if they're the tall whites? What if they're the tall whites? No, you tall white.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

No, no.

[Matt Hefner]

I'm just saying, dude, for a thousand

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

years, I can't tell when you're serious. I'm like, what the heck?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

So where. Top seems totally out of pocket right now. A hundred years from now, if things go the way they go, maybe 200. You're the one who just said a thing. That's going to be out of pocket a thousand years.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Marry somebody that they love, dude, and they're going to have a life with, and you're not going to care what skin or hair or eye color they have.

[Matt Hefner]

No, you're going to be like, the

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

reptilians move in and the crime rate goes up and the housing market collapses. Practically.

[Matt Hefner]

I don't prefer.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

I think you should keep them all. And they're all in a welfare state, by the way. None of them know how to work hard.

[Matt Hefner]

It's Just. It's just a lie, dog. Like, it's. It's a lie. It's a complete lie that we're. That we're. We have brought and believed. I. I don't prefer it and I don't prefer for a number of reasons. Number one. Yeah, I would like for my lineage to continue to look like me. Like, if you go back back, I've seen pictures of my great grandfather.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Like, there's no way he looked like you.

[Matt Hefner]

Yeah.

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[Thomas the Paranoid American]

No. With the hair.

[Matt Hefner]

No, he was bold, but he looked like me.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

There's no way.

[Matt Hefner]

Yeah, okay.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

No, but.

[Matt Hefner]

But he does. And I feel like that. That's kind of like the point of what we're doing here. That's.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

You don't look super similar to your dad, dude. You guys look a little different.

[Matt Hefner]

A little different.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

I look at this the same way that right now, if you look at the color of cars, right, most cars now are gray. Compared to, if you look at, at the distribution of cars from, say, like the 70s or the 80s, there was way more yellow, green cars, blue cars, red cars. It was way more colorful. But what happens over time is that people realize cops and insurance companies treat different colored cars differently. You might get pulled over more often if you're a certain type of car color. So what this does is in general, people start saying like, oh, well, my insurance will be lower and I'll get pulled over less if I just get the silver car. If I just get the gray car.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Car.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

So what happens now? Everyone just drives a silver or a gray car. It becomes this, like, ubiquitous color. So now you kind of get to be like a crypto criminal. The cops don't know just by the color of your car whether or not you're going to be speeding. And the insurance company doesn't know that you're going to get more wrecks because you've got the same color car as everyone. And I feel like that's like, what is the clergy plan or whatever. But it's essentially if everyone is the Same kind of color for all, the same version of mulatto. Then you can kind of like sneak under the covers.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

I don't like that though. I don't like a society of mulatto.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

But I mean, on, on a trajectory. That's where we're going for humans are.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah.

[Matt Hefner]

So on a lie.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

If, if you try, if you try and be like, I want my white or whatever, your Puerto Rican babies look like Puerto Rican babies or whatever.

[Matt Hefner]

I'm just saying when we were at the pool, they were only one type of person that was misbehaving.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

The loudest ones.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

But any, anyone that doesn't have this ubiquitous sort of look to them, those are going to be the new outcast minorities that get targeted. So then there's going to be a societal reason, like a practical reason to just like have everything be ubiquitous.

[Matt Hefner]

Yeah, well, can we just tell the truth right now?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Well, here, let's.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Like, I know it's bad to be white now. I thought that was like the whole thing.

[Matt Hefner]

What do you feel in your soul? Like. I know, I know.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Superior. That's what he feels.

[Matt Hefner]

No, no, you can wear the sunglasses and you can do all the. But like, in the end of the day, if you came back, Mr.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Nasty is coming out. Dude, where is the sign?

[Matt Hefner]

You can disguise and you can you continue to put up fronts as if, like, look at how good of a person I am. But like, what do you actually prefer?

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Okay, let me ask your heart of

[Matt Hefner]

hearts at night when you think on this Salah, do something.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Yeah, because this is a thing that, as you're framing this question.

[Matt Hefner]

I'm not saying you're gonna say. Do you, do you not love this kid? Like, no, of course you love.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

No, no, no, I'm not, I'm not saying that at all.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Did you throw them right in the trash?

[Matt Hefner]

Like, like what I, what I did? What I did. See, with that grandfather when he was with that kid, I was like, man,

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

he loves that kid. That's great.

[Matt Hefner]

Yeah, but like, wouldn't you prefer that they look like.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Hang on, hang on.

[Matt Hefner]

Are you a little sad? And also it goes to show, it's like you brought your grandkid to the hotel. It looks like maybe some sort of a staycation, where's the dad?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

And then just go crazy.

[Matt Hefner]

What do you have preferred?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah, never around. Okay.

[Matt Hefner]

Never have preferred.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Hang on, hang on. So top lobster, right? He's a teenager, he's playing guitar. The church band, right? This lovely lady comes in deep hatred for black, like, looks at and falls in love With.

[Matt Hefner]

With.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

It's Christina, but she's black.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Oh, it's not happening.

[Caller (Levi Collins)]

Yeah.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Christina. It's her heart. It's her soul. It's who she is.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

She would have had an Audi belly button. It would have been a rare.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

You know, you're going to be in love with this girl and have this great life. You're going to say, no, sorry, Christine,

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

as soon as you saw that.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

That belly button, like your skin tone.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah.

[Matt Hefner]

It's crazy because my life experience has shown me that a lot of other things come with that. It's not just like. Like, skin color. Skin color is fine. It's about like.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

All right.

[Matt Hefner]

How do our families joke? Well, it's not even crime.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

That's a totally valid point.

[Matt Hefner]

Very good.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

How does our family vibe? Yeah, okay.

[Matt Hefner]

Yeah, yeah.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

But that's nothing to do with skin tone.

[Matt Hefner]

Like, but I'm just saying, like, preservation of what I'm doing, and it's like, I'm not like. Okay, so can we have some reasonable sensibility?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Well, no, here. Let's get super reasonable.

[Matt Hefner]

Do you see how this goes down? It's like, yo, dog, we are primed to introduce. Go ahead. Introducing four. Not even one alien race. Introduce all four into society and watch them. And watch people jump all over themselves to just. Just include them.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah.

[Matt Hefner]

It's like, what.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

What are. Don't get it twisted. Dudes are going to line up to. To bf them 100%.

[Matt Hefner]

100%.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

100%. Well, here let's talk about a black Decarlos Brown Jr. Who is the dude that stabbed the Ukrainian woman. Thank you, Nancy, for. For bringing this up. Newly released. You don't have to bring this on screen. Newly released police body cam footage shows Charlotte light rail murder suspect to Carlos Brown Jr. Telling officers that, quote, a man made material was controlling his body months before the fatal attack on a Ukrainian refugee. The Charlotte Mecklenburg police department said the video was taken during a welfare check. Oh. This is a separate video in January this year after Brown himself called 911 to claim that a foreign substance had been implanted in him and was manipulating his actions. In the video, Brown, 34 years old, is seen speaking to the police officers who ask him what's going on. He says, quote, quote, my body got exposed to a material. He responds, I need you guys to investigate into what my body got exposed to. I've been going through this for three years now. You guys got to investigate the name of the material to fix my emergency. One of the special things about this material is that it communicates with you. Clearly.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Wait, can I ask a thing?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Somebody's playing with my body. Body.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Unobtainium.

[Caller (Levi Collins)]

Right?

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

That's what it was.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Wait, isn't there like, don't. Like I. So I don't know. You guys probably know. Especially Thomas probably knows.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah.

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[Thomas the Paranoid American]

How do they get the guys to do like the mass shootings or like the public shootings? Like we didn't have them just like that and then all of a sudden we did. Isn't that what it is? Isn't that how they get them to do it?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

You used to do MK Ultra where you'd have to do a whole bunch of like trauma based disassociative. Now you just inject him with some black carbon goo that conducts all the frequency warfare you want to leverage their way. And then you break them down and say go do it.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

I mean we can make fun about this guy for like saying crazy stuff like he was implanted with some. Some substance and that's what made him do this. Or that's also what Timothy McVeigh claimed. Timothy McVeigh claimed that the military was implanting microchips rectally inside of his body that were basically controlling his thought patterns.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

But microchips?

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Yeah, that like, I don't know. At some point you have to ask, how do they get the. The shootings and the stuff like this to happen? Somehow they're clearly have a way to do it in the patterns that they happen.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Well, after a protracted interaction with officers in which he repeats he's been exposed to a material and tries to hand them a piece of paper which says. Which he says describes the situation. He is seen to become frustrated with the police that are unable to help him. Brown maintains that the material he says he was exposed to was given to him him without his permission or authorization. Which is interesting, right? Just the spiritual nature of permissions and consent. But he is unable to expand on how beyond saying a crime was committed. You know what that sounds like? A black dude that doesn't want to admit that it Was administered anally.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

He's just.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

They're like, what happened? He goes a cry, a crime was committed. And they're like, how did it happen, sir? He's like, I want to get into it.

[Matt Hefner]

You know what? Never mind.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Never mind. Y' all can go now. Wait, so. So I threw you a picture.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

This is legit, what he's saying, right?

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Right.

[Matt Hefner]

Maybe. Maybe he's just crazy.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

I mean, look, Thomas is leaning towards yes.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

The problem is, statistically speaking, it is not an aberration, if that. Is that a word, an aberration, an anomaly. For a black person to suddenly stab somebody in the neck on public transportation, that is not at all an anomaly.

[Matt Hefner]

No, what is an anomaly is, like, the level at which this gained virality.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

It was horrifying, but it was also like, okay.

[Matt Hefner]

It was like, everybody sees it now what? Now what?

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

But they. They also. That was an edited clip. Like, right before she gets stabbed. I believe she stepped on his shoes.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Oh, yo, she had it. Okay. All right, I'm cool with that.

[Matt Hefner]

What was he wearing?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

It's Jordans. Brand new Jordans. Yeah, he had a new high top Jordan ones.

[Matt Hefner]

And I need to reassess my opinion on them.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

They were the spider verse ones. Remember when the spider verse came out and then the Jordan ones hit? Yeah. Now I get it. By the way, this was. This was several months before he did that. That, and then later on this happens. I don't know. Interesting. I mean, you could just say you want to go into all the guy

[Matt Hefner]

that's in and out of custody, so.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Yeah, I know.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

But failure by the medical industry, beneficial

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

of a thing to happen for it to not be scripted. It's way too beneficial.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

This is where I'm on board, too, because if you look at the pattern on Charles Manson, right? Charles Manson was constantly. He was on parole. He's constantly getting arrested. All these parole violations. It only takes one. But every time he gets busted, he has to go to a mediator, which ends up being at the Ashbury Clinic. And when he goes and talks a lot of time, then essentially he basically is like, look, stop going to San Francisco. Stop leaving the area. Just, like, hang out in this one area. And he keeps getting him off the hook. And when I think what comes out in all the chaos research, but essentially he was more useful on the streets being this agent of chaos. They control that. He would have been in jail. Like, when they sent him to jail, he was. He was also a disruptor, but he only has a limited amount that he can actually change so if you find something. And I think this is one of the biggest trends you can see with CIA and intelligence networks. A lot of people have a misconception that, like, some nerds in CIA sit down at a desk and they come up with this big game plan. Like, all right, we're going to recruit this guy and have him do this thing. I think really what they do is they sit back and they wait for people already doing crazy on their own.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yep.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

And then being like, let's just drop, like, 10 grand in this guy's bank account. Don't even tell him where it came from. Let's just, like, throw a little fuel on this fire and see what he does with it.

[Matt Hefner]

This guy. Pair of new Jordans.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

When someone gets on the bus 20 different times, give him a knife. It's like, let's put this guy back out on the street, and let's just see what they're capable of. Let's just like, give him this concept in his mind that, like, you can get away with anything. And if you think you can get away with anything, how far is that going to push you? And I think that it's like. Like a controlled experiment that they're just doing on such a large scale that when you see one go out of hand, it's like, oh, my God, a national tragedy. But really, the CIA guys, like, okay, when you do A plus B, you equal C. Yeah, yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

But that's also like kind of a helter skelter, race war thing. You know, they have that in common, too, because that's what this does, is it stokes the flames.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

That's what I'm saying. It checked too many boxes. It infuriates so many people. Right.

[Matt Hefner]

Did it, though.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

And then it's like, not just the guy stabbing, but nobody helped. And then people are just irate, but nobody cares does anything. Nobody changed.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Remember when the lady was on fire on the. In the bus, Nobody. The train, and nobody cared that she was on fire.

[Matt Hefner]

They just

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

shooting. It might have been the Uvalad shooting.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Where?

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Uvaldi.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Uvaldi. Uvalad that I make up. And there's some white chick who's just dead on the ground, bleeding out. And then some black girl where her nails did in her Starbucks is like, oh, there she go. Okay. And just, like, records her dead body and just keeps walking, sipping her Starbucks.

[Matt Hefner]

And it was like, it's completely free range.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

That was a time where, like, the fatigue was at a height. I would say it's died down a little bit, but it never goes away. Now it's just not stewing underbelly.

[Matt Hefner]

I'm not calling for a race war. I'm not calling for.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Not, not calling for a race.

[Matt Hefner]

No, but I'm just saying I think it's. I. I think it's a good example of, like, where we are, like, are we primed for. Just. People are just like, whatever, dude.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Yeah, yeah, we're prime for. They could say anything and everybody would be like, yeah, that's just what's up.

[Matt Hefner]

Well, it's like that event. That event.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

I know, but this is strong delusion.

[Matt Hefner]

It looks like it happened. Happen for the powers that be to go, okay, yeah, good aliens, you know, okay, next step.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Would anyone care if a Reptilian stabbed a gray in the neck on a public bus?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

That'd be super cool. That's kind of what happened, though, isn't it? So, in a way, look, if he really did get an injected or they put it in his blood, some sort of technology. I think we're focusing on the negative aspect of technological advancements, and I think that we need to look at some of the positives. Like, maybe this one transgender woman gets new vagina made from fish skin.

[Matt Hefner]

Same taste as old vagina.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Very good.

[Caller (Levi Collins)]

That was a banger.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Same taste as old vagina. This is a little bit old, you know, oldie, but a goodie. This is back in 2019, but I'm like, look, man, if. I think if you focus on.

[Matt Hefner]

They got rid of the rotting flesh smell.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Does this eliminate the need for dilation?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

I. I hope it's descaled. I don't know. I just think it's cool. What do you think about this?

[Matt Hefner]

That's a. Stay slimy.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Thanks. Stay slimy.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Well, because. Because if you don't have something, I mean, I assume that the fish skin would eliminate the need for dilation, because even if you become transgender.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

I think that it starts at, like. Like, multiple times a day, you have to dilate. Then it goes to multiple times a week. And then I think, at the very least, you have to go like, three or four times in a month. Dilate. Otherwise the wound. L just heals itself and closes up. Well, that this might be a way around that, because if you leave the scales on, then it's not.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Oh, it can never go too. Too much. But it does have some pliability to go the opposite direction. There was a. There was a famous instance of a trans kid, you know, whatever. So I forgot what the hell the name of this is. They were. They had their own show and There was some behind the scenes, you know, footage that came out where the mother.

[Matt Hefner]

I think some of this race stuff kind of like goes towards like. Like just, Just preference. Matt, I see you're disgusted by this. What are you bringing back?

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Why are you bringing this back up? I thought we were over the whole race.

[Matt Hefner]

I'm just saying preference. Like, I prefer. Because we're getting to a point where people would be like, what do you

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

prefer if your grandkid didn't have a muscle?

[Matt Hefner]

Yeah. And the people like, what do you mean? That's intolerant.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

I don't want to ask my grandkid if they've washed their today. That's. That's crazy, dude. Daquan, have you washed your. Your. Have you washed your foot? See today, man? Have you seen my bike? I, you know, I just think that it is, you know, it's. It's time for. I watched a movie recently called Greenland and it's about like an asteroid impact. And I. It's kind of like that meme where it's like, just bring it on. Bring on the. Bring on the asteroid. Just wipe the slate clean, you know, Bring on the fire. I wouldn't feel so bad if I saw it.

[Matt Hefner]

I go, jonathan said that that's real. That's real catfishing.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

That is real catfishing. Damn. Well, that's a. I mean, you. You can tell by the smell.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Catfish don't have scales, right?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

I don't know. I don't think they do have more

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

of like a leathery kind of scale.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

That is true.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

So that would be something that would be unedible under the law. Because in the law it had to be. It had to have scales. Anything in the water can't eat that didn't have scales and fins, you couldn't eat it.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah, I get it, girl. It's got that real fish taste, but I can't eat it. So the kid was. Thank you, Trevor. The kid was Jazz. So Jazz was like a famous trans kid, one of the early ones that kind of popularized a bit of a mascot for the movement, right? And some footage came out where the mom was bragging, more or less not bragging, but she's just like kind of unloading what it's like to be a trans kid's mom. And you know, the mom's saying, like, I gotta forcefully dilate this kid.

[Matt Hefner]

Oh, no.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Or rather, else the. The mussy the is gonna close. This is before the. The, you know, invention of the fish lining, man.

[Matt Hefner]

How we can air this episode, I really don't I don't think we can. Oh, yeah, it's on everything.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

It's live, but it's not on YouTube. So. So it's just live to Patreon. But the idea was that if you didn't dilate it, it would close up.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

You know, it's a wound.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

It's a wound. It's an active wound. That's what these things are. This is why I actually keep. And this is going to sound psychotic, and this is not part of a bit. And I realize it's unhealthy, and. And actually, it never. Wait, it never was. I never used it in the way that I intended to use it.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

With the dilator.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

No, that I got used routinely. I have a gallery that's filled with muses and. And franken penises. And the reason that I have that is because early on, on this phone. On this phone, early on in this, I don't know, phenomena on. Of giving kids hormone blockers. And then successfully, I'm doing that with air quotes. Transitioning people. Through surgeries, I was discovering that there's no such thing as a successful transition and that all of a. All a doctor does is create for you a meat sandwich of a penis or an open wound. That is.

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[Interjection/Chorus Voice]

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[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Fucking. Not recognizable as a vagina, but more looks like a war wound that you'd sustain, you know, fighting for your country. And so I started saving them. And for a brief period, I would go, I find some, you know, transsexual on. On Twitter, we get into an argument. And they'd go, there's nothing wrong with it. Why does it bother you? And I'd go, you can't be a girl. You can't be a girl because here's a picture of you not being able to be a girl. Or if it was a woman that wants to be a guy, go, you can't be a guy because here's a picture of you not being able to successfully be a guy. So you have a chunk out of your forearm, and. And now you've got Skeleton arm. And then you've got all of that.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Just like the wiener out of the forearm.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah, dude. And they just got it.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

If you have weak forearms that you got a week.

[Matt Hefner]

It's just a skin.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Is it just a skin? Yeah, I guess so. And then.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

But it's a grafting process like anything else.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah. I guess when you remove the skin and then also the fat goes with it. So what's left is. It's so thin.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

This is like mutilation and torture. It's.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Like. I don't know. This is madness.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

You want to see some?

[Matt Hefner]

I think all this is going to. This is all headed towards alien man.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Probably.

[Matt Hefner]

I think. I know it sounds crazy. It just feels like the same path.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Well, it's another level of transhumanism.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Right.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

It's. It's basically saying that we can correct what God didn't do right or nature didn't do right in the first place. But it's also sort of this way to dominate nature. I mean, I'd almost say as. As radical as it sounds. It's an extension of the Bible saying that like, God gave man dominion over the rest of nature.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

That's an intriguing statement. Yeah. I don't think that's blasphemy or heretical.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

So like you being able to graph skin off of your arm and turn it into.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

It's just this world against God. Yeah. And almost saying like, yeah, we're in control down here. We do whatever we want.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Check that out.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

No, I don't like that.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

That's crazy. That thing looks like. You ever see a summer sausage?

[Matt Hefner]

Why do you have. Have this picture?

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

I don't like that.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Oh, you've ever seen a sea.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

But man is always doing this. Man is always in defiance against God. Man.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Here's another one. You gotta. Gotta put like so that it stays open.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

But could this not be an extra extension of God giving you dominion over the natural world? Isn't that just another dominion?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

But like, he didn't say you were gonna do a good job of it.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

He gave me the forearm and he gave me the.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

The know how even look like. I don't know. I think it just looks like it's all sealed up.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Yeah. You gotta look at. At this word dominion, man. I don't know.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Probably one of these words.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Why are they all size queens?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Every single one of them goes in there and goes, take the biggest chunk of my arm you possibly can. That took it out of her. Her thigh. And she's got 50 less thigh now and 100 more chimeric abomination. Penis. Look at that one. That's crazy as well, too. I just have a never ending supplier.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Zoom in that a little bit on

[Matt Hefner]

the tip of it.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

It's just. It looks like it's all sealed up. Oh, it doesn't look like it's a. It's a thing that.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

So what does the passage say the gifts of God are. I forget how it words it, but, like, he doesn't, like, say he gives man this gift. Yeah. Man will sabotage and hijack that gift. Perversion of this gift is you've been given dominion. It's even like on a food forest. Right? Like, you've got a food forest. You start growing fruit trees, you start growing your food, your own medicine. You got your animals, you got your chickens, your ducks, your goats, boats. You can either work in that system or you can fight against nature and spray it with poison and spray with all this stuff. Or you can like. I'm not even gonna look.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Go ahead, have a look. I promise.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Okay. I do not like that.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Well, yeah, you know why? Because that one was black.

[Matt Hefner]

What we're doing here is like, that

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

one's called the batwing, by the way.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

They don't like.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

No, I just showed him.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

You know what I'm saying? Like, you can pervert these gifts that God gave you, man. Like, you 100 can.

[Matt Hefner]

There's an obvious rule set, right. Like, so. Yeah. Like, God allowed us the ability to farm chickens.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

He's like, you can domesticate animals, dog.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

That's not all in a shed in a metal building and give them this much space.

[Matt Hefner]

Right.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Dominion.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Okay, here's. Here's maybe a more practical example. What about your kids born with a cleft pallet? And then you have the doctors toss

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

them off the cliff.

[Matt Hefner]

Pallet.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Yeah. I don't see an issue.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

So then what about you were born without the penis that you should have had? So now the doctor is going to remove.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

He's well versed in trans arguments.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

What do you mean? You were supposed to be born without a penis?

[Matt Hefner]

Penis demons in the astral realm tell you that because.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Okay then, but couldn't the same logic be said that, like, you were meant to be born with the cleft palate?

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Yeah, you can absolutely make that argument, but you still have the right to, like, correct it. But we know the trans thing is not that somebody's like, especially as a child, that they're like, oh, no, I'm supposed to be. Even though I'm born with a vagina, I'm supposed to have A wiener. It's like, I know kids that are like, I'm a T. Rex. Give him T. Rex surgery and let him be a T. Of course.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

But I don't think that there's ever been a baby that was born with a cleft pallet that was like, hey, hey, Doc, come fix this. It's usually the parents that are like, oh, we see a problem, fix this problem.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Well, I think you absolutely have the right to get a Sheenus. And I'm go. I have the right to go.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

He doesn't believe this, but I love how you do that. I love how you do that. That you get the.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Well, no, there is. It's like, where's the line? You have to find the line.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Even though you don't believe that, you don't know.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

I knew a chick with the tail, and a lot of my buddies slept with her. Ew.

[Matt Hefner]

A tail.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Tail. And I. You know, it was weird because she was.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

What do you mean, a tail? The tailbone had a little thing.

[Matt Hefner]

She's like a white person.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Was like 4 inches, and she could make it wag.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Stop.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah, I'm not. That's not.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

I'm not. I don't know when to believe. You ever heard that story?

[Matt Hefner]

If we're going to talk about the transgender, you need to go down.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Did she have the right to remove it?

[Matt Hefner]

Hold on, David, shut the up. I'm just saying, to go down, the idea of why this is even happening, and it's like, well, most of these trans people that are getting these surgeries that are transitioning or at least identifying as is like, a lot of them are women. Women, whatever, mostly autistic. And then we can't discount the. The large propaganda machine that is targeting them. And then we also can't discount the amount of vaccines that these people have had to make them suggestible to this. So there's just too many nefarious actors to be like, yeah, that was a thing. You know, like, maybe back in the day, it was probably much more rare. And they.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

I don't know.

[Matt Hefner]

Society was probably. Definitely a lot more against it. But it's like. Like, now I.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

There's no question. 10, 20, 30, 40 years ago, it was totally uncomfortable.

[Matt Hefner]

It's almost impossible now to gauge how much of that response is actually coming from this person versus how much is like, you're on medication. You know, you've been told this. You've been born with the suggestibility of a child, and you've been kept there on purpose by government medication. So it's Like, I'm not even going to have that argument of, like, well, what if this person should have been this way? What if this was misunderstanding mistake how. I. Sorry, man. We can't. We can't tell that anymore because the lines have been. Been so blurred. So that's that. No more sheenuses. Stop it.

[Caller (Levi Collins)]

All right.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

And also, kill. If your kid has a cleft palette, you gotta kill him.

[Matt Hefner]

Yeah. You gotta kill him off the cliff.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah.

[Matt Hefner]

Also, I mean, listen, what's wrong with the cleft palette, though? Like, a club palette's like, I think it does. Cause a lot of this is a great actor.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

No, there's, like, ones that extend all the way into, like, there's a hole in your palate.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Changing your sex. Sex is not the same as correcting whatever you want to call it.

[Matt Hefner]

So how did they get the cleft palate? Is that, like, what, from. From, like, some sort of, like, vaccinations when the. The mother was.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

No, those were probably happening.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Mutation in utero. But, like, here's another example.

[Matt Hefner]

How did that happen?

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

If you look at one of the original transgender surgeries, right? I can't remember if the doctor's name was, like, John Money or something like that, but it was the result of a botched circumcision that was done so wrong.

[Matt Hefner]

What else was John Money doing?

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

The doctor. The doctor was looking at it.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Wait, let's just make it a girl.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

And, well, he was like, they. We screwed up the circumcision so bad. This is never going to be a boy. So they basically trained this kid and raised them as a girl, even though the kid was fighting against it mentally their entire life.

[Matt Hefner]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. John Money was also, like, raising two twins. Like, one as a girl, one as a boy. He was having sex with him. He's doing all kinds of wacky, too. So, like, that doesn't fly, dog. This is, like, a good. That was a good excuse to do

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

that to somebody, you transgender one kid, and start banging him. It's the all any about for your entire career. Like, you've never had any other sort of advancements in science.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Oh, that's interesting. He pioneered the use of drug treatment to extinguish sex offenders. Sex drives, huh?

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Well, he's taking credit for that, actually. That was part of a early eugenics program in the 1900s. The first vasectomies were being given to prisoners which wouldn't stop masturbating and in prison.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

I just came here to find out if he was Jewish. I'm finding out all kinds of other fascinating stuff. Yeah. Oh, he was friends with Yoko Ono. That's cool.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Although I'm pretty sure it turned out well for that first kid that they did the surgery on. Yeah. They ended up having, like, a really long and happy life. I.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

As a female thing.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Oh, no way. They killed themselves.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Oh, I can see how. Yeah. Sometimes. Sometimes you mix up the. The.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

What actually happened.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

I knew you didn't believe in this, but I like how you play the devil's advocate. Top does that to me too. When he needs, like, some content for X, he'll, like, throw some crazy argument at me and then wait for me to, like, respond and be like, good, good.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

There's certain things that just. The logic can beat any sort of form of emotional response. Like, for example, when Katy Perry came out as transgender and everyone wanted. Or was it Lady Gaga? Everyone against it. But, I mean, clearly it's all pink on the inside, so you're just being a bigot if you wanted to make, like, one decision over the other.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Do you think Lady Gaga was born with a penis?

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Maybe both.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Oh, like an actual hermaphrodite, perhaps?

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Yeah. In that case, you get to pick, right? You get to pick which one you want.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Well, this is something I've talked about before, is before we had.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Can they keep both?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

I mean, I guess they keep both in the rare instances where people are born with both genitalias.

[Matt Hefner]

I have a question.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Be able to have both.

[Matt Hefner]

I know a guy. I know a guy that has both. My grandma. Well, he's dead now, but my grandma. My grandma, she said that he had dos partes, meaning, like, both parts. She changed him as a kid because, like, he was a relative to a relative, so no way she changed him

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

and he had a wiener and a vagina.

[Matt Hefner]

That's what she said. Whatever both parts mean is that's what she said.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

I wonder if he was more of a boy or more of a girl

[Matt Hefner]

as he got older. He was, like, an elder in the church, but he had, like, you know, facial hair. Looked like a dude, presented as a dude dude. But he. He was kind of gay. And then he's in the church, and. And he has, like, a. A boyfriend. So I'm just like.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

I don't know where to put this. I don't know.

[Matt Hefner]

Because he didn't choose that. This is something like, all right, this dude didn't choose.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

That's a hard thing, too. You spend your whole life resisting your vagina. That's rough.

[Matt Hefner]

Yeah. You have ovaries and a penis. So, like, I. I don't know. I don't know.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Well, he could never figure out where to go for. For dinner. Never pick a restaurant.

[Matt Hefner]

But this is. This is not. This is not the norm. This is like.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah, and for those people, I go, could be. That sucks. You got a nightmare situation going Crisper with Christopher.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Become a norm.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

And let me tell you, you know, they're. They would do that.

[Matt Hefner]

The.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

The furry community. You know how many furry community characters would. If you could get a cloaca, they'd get a cloaca. There's. There's so much perversion now in all of it. Is, am I sharing something? I thought I was sharing something. I think people would definitely opt to get both.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Well, like, when some people go to get the ice cream from the soft serve, they can't decide if they want the vanilla or the chocolate, so they have the swirl version in the middle.

[Matt Hefner]

A little bit of both.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

All right, well, I think that's probably a good place to stick the landing.

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[Matt Hefner]

Yeah, I think we can stick the landing there. I did want to say something. I mean, I guess we're done with it. Orthodox shirts. No, I don't want to talk.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

No, we can talk about the Orthodox.

[Matt Hefner]

I was by the pool, and I just made, like. Like, this brilliant observation.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah. Of.

[Matt Hefner]

I was like, how come. How come the things that were, like, founded in the name of the apostles.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah.

[Matt Hefner]

Are just filled. Filled with St. Thomas, St. John. Oh, the Orthodox church just filled with retardedness.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Wait, wait, wait. What do you mean? Like, St. John is filled with.

[Matt Hefner]

With them?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Like.

[Matt Hefner]

Yeah.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Like a location called St. John's yeah.

[Matt Hefner]

Like the location. The physical locations of today.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

That's an island, right?

[Matt Hefner]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm just. I'm just wondering. Like, I said, I was arguing with them.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah.

[Matt Hefner]

And then I'm saying, like, all these guys are a bunch of. And I can't figure out why. And then I remember, like, a year ago, I was. A year ago, I was in this island, and it was the same thing.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

That's Interesting.

[Matt Hefner]

It was literally the same thing and I wanted to get out of there.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

What about Little St. John James?

[Matt Hefner]

Same thing. H. Why? Any. Any idea why?

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

That's like, I don't understand the premise.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Like at the St. Thomas Virgin Islands

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

or St. James island, thinking like literally

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

those actual territories, Martin Luther King Boulevard,

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

very racial statement and saying they're dumb. Dumbs.

[Matt Hefner]

It's not necessarily a racial statement. It's more observation, spiritual disposition.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

And what about St. Thomas? Again, why is there a bunch of Black people in St. Thomas?

[Matt Hefner]

No, I didn't say that.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Okay.

[Matt Hefner]

I mean, it's true that there is, right? Yes, at St. Thomas.

[Caller (Levi Collins)]

Right?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

I mean, that is true.

[Matt Hefner]

I don't know. It's something that I really need to chew on and think over.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Well, I do think that like I said before, that Michael Heiser thing, I think kind of stemmed out of the. The beating that the Orthodox church took.

[Matt Hefner]

And pretty reason that they took stemmed out of a cover up of, you know, Protestant pastors lying about aliens.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Oh, wait a second. We got something here. On the way out, I'm going to show Thomas.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

What do Protestants have to do with Orthodox?

[Matt Hefner]

Nothing.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Here, let's bring this up.

[Matt Hefner]

What the hell is this? It's muted.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Oh, why is that happening?

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Sounds kind of cool.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Hold on a second. I think my audio started coming. Oh, I know that did happen. It told me before that my audio got all up. How do I fix that top? I. Protestants. Yeah, yeah, I got it. Boom.

[Matt Hefner]

What do Protestants have to do with the Orthodox? It just led into like we had the Protestant pastors that said that they had the meeting with the private government actors about aliens.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

And how did they ever get called Protestant pastors? It's very rare for that phrase to even come up. They would just say pastors because Orthodox

[Matt Hefner]

was calling them out. No, I think it's important to make the distinction that they were not Catholic. I don't even think Orthodox have a place in the conversation at this point. They're just like Catholic. So if we're going to separate the two, because it's almost like two different religions. Religions. Catholic guys with fish hats, Protestants guys with jumbo jets and, you know, fake. Fake pastor voice.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

So those were the guys, but you're

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

lumping Orthodox in with Catholics?

[Matt Hefner]

Yes.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

I. I don't think that's correct.

[Matt Hefner]

I do.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

No.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

One of Thomas has a. What? Like what are the. You are not Orthodox and Catholic specialists. We're just like, okay, whatever. What's.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

My grandparents were in Opus Day, which is about as Catholic as you can become. I believe not in the top 6,000. The ones that like do all, all of like the self lashing and whatnot. But I mean, I think they're calling this, this is almost like saying that like generic brand dollar store cereal is the same as Cocoa Puffs. It's not like it might, it might look.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Which one's the Cocoa Puffs?

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

General Mills. That's like the official brand.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

No, no, I'm saying is Catholic or orthodox? The cocoa.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Oh, Catholic.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Okay. Catholic is the Cocoa Puffs and orthodox is like the knockoff.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

I believe so, yeah.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Wow.

[Matt Hefner]

Well, I mean, so their argument is that they are not the knockoff, that the Catholics are the knockoff after the schism. And my argument is, who cares? I look at them and I go,

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

because they're doing the same stuff. You're saying the same stuff.

[Matt Hefner]

It's the same. Why am I gonna like, I'm gonna sit here. If they're gonna call everybody Protestants, then I'm gonna say you're gonna call me a Protestant. I'm not, I'm not a Protestant.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Do the Lutherans not get involved in this entire thing? Do they just.

[Matt Hefner]

They're included in Protestant. Okay, yeah. So if it's a fair point for me to then go, you guys all have this like, you have a church filled with gold, you're all praying to Mary, you're kissing dead bones, you're counting rosary, whatever.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

So called Protestant just is protesting and came out of that Catholic system. Yeah, but they're also so much like that Catholic system, but they're just different. It's a different. We still going to do a show that, that, you know, the Catholic calls it a man mass produce. So called Protestant calls it a show. You know, Catholics still going to take up money and build this thing called the Vatican. Protestants building a giant Institute 501C3 institution. Like it's all the same stuff. It's just like, which are you, Republican or Democrat? We're saying, yo, we're straight Bible, dude. Like, we're just straight Bible. I don't care what scripture, what this group said or what that group said.

[Matt Hefner]

I'm outside of it for sure. But like, if you're gonna make me like, it's fun to be like, all right, Republicans are Democrats. And I'll be like, yeah, well of course Republicans, Titans, like this is not really a choice.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

I know, but there's some people that pick Democrat.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Right, right.

[Matt Hefner]

All I'm saying is that like in comparison when I look at. And my, my main gripe with the Orthodox church has Been like, I don't really give a. What they say that we can argue about the saints all day. We can argue about, well, where did you get the Bible from? Okay, your doctrine says that you guys hold the keys to salvation and you don't. That's what they believe. Whenever, whenever they're putting pushed. And I'm like, that right there is alone is enough for me to just discard you completely. And it's, it's, it gets interesting. And I've been pushing a lot harder too because I'm like. And I feel, I feel bad because I like some of the people in it that especially the ones that are like becoming the target of this. But I'm like, I want to see something. I want to see something. Because half of you guys will say one thing and half you guys will say the other. But one of the things that they do say is that like, well, there's no salvation outside of God's holy church, me meaning us, the Orthodox Church, or even the Catholic Church. So I go, okay, cool, cool, cool. There's a lot of you guys that are out there that are talking a lot of, about everybody. So I go, hey, does your, does your priest know you're saying these things? And the priests go, we disavow. And I go, well, this is what they're saying. So I'm like, well, it looks like you're gonna have to kick them out the church. And I go, hey, buddy, if they kick you out the church, do you lose your salvation? Because this is your doctrine now. And I just, it's very interesting for me. And what's insulting for me is that like a lot of these people we have spoken to and it's like they come and they talk to us and they, you know, they're nice enough and they say pretty cool things, but in the end they're like, oh yeah, yeah, no, we, you guys are, you're all going to hell. Like, we think you're going to hell because you're not part of this church. You guys are anathema.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Cool.

[Matt Hefner]

Say it to my face.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

So you got to be a part of a man made system.

[Matt Hefner]

Whatever, whatever they say, I just want, I just would like, like, I like for like transparency. Yeah. If, if I approached you and I said it to your face, like, I'm very honest with what I think about like what's happening here. And I'll, I'll tell you exactly what I think. I certainly don't think that. Why do you keep it guarded? Why, why is that? Like, we don't well, maybe, kinda, but no, no, no. When. Push. That's exactly what you think. So then, then we examine a little bit further and like, it's just old hat at this point, but it's like, all right, well, how do I become a part of the church? Well, you got to get baptized. And somebody goes, the guy being pastor goes, well, it looks like it costs 250 to get baptized here. So now not only are you gatekeeping salvation, which is given freely, but you're charging for it. And then, and it just, it's, it's hilarious to watch these people tie themselves into knots. And I was like, this is, these are your words. And they're like, well, Protestants, this, Protestants look great. Protestants look fantastic. Because none of them are saying you have to pay money to get salvation. They're asking for money. They'll. We'll take your money. And they're probably kids and they're probably flying jumbo jets and like, this too. It's like, dude, there's not a comparison to what you're doing. What you're doing is like an actual heresy. It's actually horrific what you're, what you're doing here. So I just wanted, I'm trying to game theory some stuff out, and I'm seeing some people, they're like, yeah, they should. We should excommunicate people. They're calling for excommunication of some guys that were, I don't know, talking about a girl. I was like, yeah, yeah, do it.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Let's see what happens. Happens. Oh, I saw some kind of holy standard.

[Matt Hefner]

If you can't be in the church, then you can't be saved.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Right.

[Matt Hefner]

So the church has now kicked you out. So now we're like, forget it. Forget about God. Whatever God says. Forget about the Bible, whatever that says, forget about whatever Jesus died for. This guy in a cape and a robe said this thing. That's what we're down to now.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

You're.

[Matt Hefner]

And I, I'm just, I'm continuing to sift through and I keep on poking and poking and pushing and I want to. And this is just what we come down to. So I'm like, there's a really big hole role in what you're saying, in your doctrine here.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah, but it's funny because I think

[Matt Hefner]

on the same breath, like, wait a second, Michael Heiser. And now we're talking about Michael.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

You would say if you said salvation is given freely, they would go, yes. And then you go, but if you're not in your church, you're Not a Christian. And they would also go, yes. And then to do that, you got to get baptized. That costs 250. And not every case. Right, that's not the case every time. But like, there's no uniformity then across your church. So how do you appeal to your church as the authority?

[Matt Hefner]

Uniformity. They charge you like, well, if you want a private baptism. Yeah. But then they'll be like, well, you know, we do have baptisms once a month. I was like, okay, so just don't die and come back on the first of the month. But if you die, you're.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

This is coach versus business class baptisms, essentially.

[Matt Hefner]

Yeah, yeah.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Like, do you want to, do you want to baptize your baby? And coach, do you want to baptize your baby?

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Ask them like, hey, there's a sufficient amount of water in that pot. Little. Can you come baptize me in it? I wonder if they would say, yeah, I don't know.

[Matt Hefner]

I don't like these guys.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Well, here, let's attack a different organization. Let's attack the Freemasons. This one's for you. I don't know what you're gonna say. I just, I, I admire your conviction, man.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

I like it. Like, you're like, you're going for it.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

You can't leave yet. Don't look at your phone.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

I gotta leave in 10 minutes.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Okay, we're gonna probably wrap it up.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

As much as I love this, I

[Matt Hefner]

gotta do whenever this comes up, I will continue to push this and continue to make them contradict themselves because this is a position that you've stated. They will, they love debate. Great debate with yourself here.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

All right, let's see what this guy's got. I think this is on freemasonry. I, I, I'm well here. Let's just see what he has to say.

[Guest Speaker (Ex-Freemason Sean Stone)]

We go and go back to, by

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

the way, is on Tucker. He's the guy that's after Owen, and he's talking about aliens and demons, basically.

[Guest Speaker (Ex-Freemason Sean Stone)]

All right, so John D, for example, magic chick. Who is John D. So John D. Was. He was basically like the head of intelligence for Queen Elizabeth right at the beginning of the British Empire.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Elizabeth the first.

[Guest Speaker (Ex-Freemason Sean Stone)]

Elizabeth the first, yeah. Sorry, Go back in time to.

[Matt Hefner]

Yeah,

[Guest Speaker (Ex-Freemason Sean Stone)]

exactly. The 1580s. And, and D is the original 007. That's how he signed his signature. So Bond is actually inspired from John D. And he was into magic. He basically was working these what they call the Nokian magic magic, because again, derived probably from the book of Enoch, but he was communing with these beings watchers, what he considered angels.

[Interjection/Chorus Voice]

But.

[Guest Speaker (Ex-Freemason Sean Stone)]

And he had this, you know, these incantations and he was summoning spirits. He was working with spirits. And the theory is basically the Shakespearean Tempest play is inspired from John Dee as the. The wizard in the story is basically John Dee, that he essentially made the deal for the British Empire to become the most powerful empire in the world. And it begins with.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

Is he just looking at the ground for most of that, he's like, not even looking at him.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

That's interesting. By the way, that play that he references, isn't that the same play where you get come upon these yellow sands? That's. I think there's something.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

I don't even know what was the point, though.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

You know what it was. I think I got duped a little bit because here the thing was bombshell. Ex Freemason Sean Stone claims British Empire gave dominance because they. He never said that. That's why they gained dominance.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Well, that wouldn't have been Freemasons anyway. That would have been Rosicrucians.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Well, this guy, I guess, is X Freemason Sean Stones.

[Matt Hefner]

That is the same play. It's. It's a reference to.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

That's weird.

[Matt Hefner]

It's from Mother Horse Eyes. Right.

[Interjection/Chorus Voice]

You.

[Matt Hefner]

Have you seen that? Have you heard?

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

No, I haven't.

[Matt Hefner]

Okay, you should listen to it.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

You should listen to it. But that's interesting because you should read this. Then that means that one of the main characters in that play was fashioned after John D. Yeah. That kind of makes the whole thing a little bit more messy and interesting because I've yet to. Because I don't read plays because that's gay and I don't watch plays because that's gay.

[Matt Hefner]

Well, you.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Right. So I don't really understand it when they go, like, come upon these yellow sands. And that's a reference to a. Shakespeare. A Shakespeare play. I go, I guess I'll never get that information because Shakespeare's gay and plays are gay. Now I'm tempted. Now I'm tempted to know what that. What that be all about.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Tempted to read the Tempest. Yeah, Like. Like baby Yaya says.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

But yeah, shout out to Baby Yaya.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Shakespeare was actually Francis Bacon. And that there's the John D. Francis Bacon connection. The invisible Sam, Tripoli.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Yeah, but Tripoli is Francis Bacon.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

So. So John D's work gets absorbed through Francis Bacon, which then gets put out through William Shakespeare, which then basically turns into the new world like that. That's. Yeah, that was the. The entire premise of that from start to end. That John D. Was a magician. It was that he was putting forth the rest of the Rosicrucian.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Right now we're bringing it into an end right now.

[Caller (Levi Collins)]

Out.

[Matt Hefner]

Let's, let's, let's.

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Thomas Dilate.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Where can people find you?

[Co-host/Contributor (possibly a conspiracy theorist or analyst)]

Thomas paranoidamerican.com. i've got comics on there. Games, stickers, shirts, and the allnew Paranoid American Dilators.

[Interjection/Chorus Voice]

Oh, nice.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Keep that open.

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

And you can find his biography on Straight Bible.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Oh, yeah, that's right. Well, now it's.

[Matt Hefner]

It's.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Where are you from On Straight Bible, right?

[Thomas the Paranoid American]

No, no, it's interview site sessions. Because I didn't even ask where he was from today.

[Matt Hefner]

Well, I guess I gotta rename all this stuff.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Great. Just more work for T.O.

[Matt Hefner]

thanks. I gotta get back to work, guys.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Bye.

[Interjection/Chorus Voice]

They bred with daughters of men and they will do it again. The end is written in the book in the pages they forgot.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

Despot. Dance. Squad. Death.

[Interjection/Chorus Voice]

Squad.

[David Lee Corbo (The Raven/Top Lobster)]

When the last trumpet sounds,

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