Restroom Demon?! Shadow People & Panama “Alien” | NDS Chronicles: 036

Summary

Nephilim Death Squad – Episode 036

Title: Restroom Demon?! Shadow People & Panama “Alien” | NDS Chronicles: 036
Release Date: October 2, 2025
Hosts: TopLobsta and Raven (David Lee Corbo)
Producer/Contributor: Nancy

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Episode Overview

In this episode, TopLobsta and Raven, with regular contributions from producer Nancy, delve into listener-submitted paranormal experiences and discuss the intersection of conspiracy, the demonic, and the supernatural—all through a biblical and sometimes irreverently comedic lens. The stories range from a chilling account of a "Restroom Demon" to bizarre shadow people sightings and a deep-dive update on the viral "Panama Alien" saga. As always, the hosts riff on faith, skepticism, spiritual warfare, and the strangeness lurking in everyday life.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Show Opening & Housekeeping

[00:32 – 04:00]

• Hosts banter about show structure and Patreon perks: live episodes, early access, and merch discounts.
• Raven introduces Nancy, the story curator, and listener engagement in the live chat.
• Some meta commentary about platform moderation and the community feel (e.g., unbanning "Broken 76").

Notable Moment:
"Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of NDS Chronicles, the show where we read your schizophrenic testimony, paranormal testimony, but it's often from schizophrenics."
— Raven (00:32)

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2. Restroom Demon: Olga’s Olive Garden Encounter

[03:42 – 13:24]

• Nancy selects "Restroom Demon" from listener Olga as the first story.
• Olga recounts an experience in an Olive Garden bathroom where a seemingly ordinary woman abruptly begins speaking in a terrifying, guttural male voice filled with hatred, uttering phrases like "You're nothing. You're worth nothing. God hates you."
• The voice, unnatural and deeply unsettling, leaves Olga paralyzed with fear; when the woman emerges, she's all smiles and cheerful, which heightens the uncanny nature.
• Olga speculates, with the benefit of hindsight (working with numerous Baker Act clients), that this was not mental illness or drugs—suggesting a possible encounter with the demonic.
• Olga also slips in practical advice for “Afro addicts” (Afrin nasal spray dependency) and a shout-out to fellow listeners.

Memorable Quote:
"This person starts talking in the deepest, most guttural male voice. Just dripping with hatred... ‘you're nothing. You're worth nothing. God hates you.’"
— Raven, reading Olga's account (07:12)

• The hosts riff on public restroom horrors, dark Olive Garden truths, and related chat banter.

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3. Listener Submission: Shadow Person Story

[14:59 – 21:23]

• Chosen by Nancy, a story from "Cutter" is read.
• Cutter describes a time when his wife saw what she thought was him crouching in their apartment hallway, but he hadn’t moved—she’d seen a "shadow" of him, only evil and creepy.
• Discussion quickly jumps to connecting this sighting to paranormal archetypes like Skinwalkers, the Rake, and Hat Man, with Raven referencing Nathaniel Gillis’ theories on "the phenomenon" and entities taking familiar forms to trick or frighten people.
• The hosts consider the intersection between Native American lore and modern shadow people sightings.

Notable Quote:
"Anytime you hear about the crouching entity, you immediately start thinking skinwalker. I wonder where these people are. New Mexico, Vegas, Arizona."
— TopLobsta (18:27)

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4. Panama Alien — Deep Dive & Skepticism

[23:41 – 31:46]

• A live demo and breakdown of the "Panama Alien" viral internet saga: a man in Panama claims to find and ultimately release a mysterious "alien" creature into water.
• Raven offers a play-by-play of the viral videos and voiceovers, speculates on its authenticity, and opines it’s likely an elaborate “bad film” promo, not a true cryptid find.
• Top and Raven discuss online hoaxes and how social media shapes modern legends, alongside jokes about beta fish and special effects.

Notable Quote:
"I think the video that we just saw is real, but I think it’s like a production for a bad film...it's a teaser. It's a really bad [promo]."
— Raven (29:22)

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5. Long-Form Listener Story: “Hell House” by Daddy Profit Bunny

[31:47 – 74:55]

Synopsis:

• Daddy Profit Bunny recalls deep spiritual transformation after conversion, increased sensitivity to God’s presence, and immersion in a fervent Christian community with a "24/7 prayer room."
• Encounters with more dangerous spiritual warfare: overwhelming spiritual sensations centered around a particular house in his neighborhood, where passing by evoked intense grief, suffering, and a sense of captivity, despite the house’s normal exterior.
• After a season of spiritual struggle—crippling temptations, intrusive suicidal thoughts, and a sense of torment—Daddy Profit Bunny feels called to act. After being spiritually emboldened while watching the movie "Snowpiercer," he decides to confront the “hell house.”
• Upon touching the door in prayer, violent, supernatural barking erupts; he suspects something evil or victims are trapped within—possibly pointing to underground crime.
• Subsequent prayer seems to dampen the negative sensations, though the ultimate fate of the house or its inhabitants remains a mystery.

Memorable Quotes:
"I started to cry. Embarrassing. Grief. Sadness. Like someone trapped in a cage crying for help, like abused children, like the worst feelings of hell I could imagine."
— Daddy Profit Bunny via Raven (46:34)

"I get out of the car, I'm praying. I'm nervous, my heart pounding...I walk up to the front door, I’m quiet, standing at the front of the door, and just praying. I don’t know what to do. About to turn around. Nope. I step up, I put my hand on the door, and I pray. Now—right when I put my hand on the door, what happens is a very loud, loud sound erupts from the house...dogs barking...I broke a boundary or something, and something did not like it at all."
— Raven reading (71:28)

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6. Personal Paranormal Parallels

[75:28 – 87:29]

• Raven recounts his own encounter with a homeless encampment: after hearing barking followed by silence, he uncovers a bag in a nearby creek—initiating an investigation that leads to the discovery of a dead body, not a dog. The heavy, anxious feelings beforehand paralleled the spiritual sensations in the Hell House story.
• The hosts connect the prevalence of evil or suffering to "thin places" where societal order lapses and darkness accumulates.
• TopLobsta and Raven reflect on the profound, often-unresolved nature of real-world evil, murder, and spiritual oppression in society.

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7. Meta Banter, Community, & Future Plans

[31:00 – Interspersed]

• Ongoing bits about guessing Nancy’s car (never resolved!), affectionate teasing, and making fun of themselves/the audience.
• Discussion of the plan to record in a local coffee shop (Matt's Coffee Shop), with musings about the spiritual responsibility of creating new “community spaces.”
• Hints at growing the "NDS verse" with more hosts, including Bible studies by Matt.

Memorable Banter:
“We gather community. Realistically, what we need, we just need to keep Nancy, like, moist or something...She needs a...like a heating rock. You know how much a terrarium of that size costs?”
— Raven (52:01)
(running joke about Nancy’s cryptic presence and mysterious transportation)

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Notable Quotes & Moments (With Timestamps)

• "This person starts talking in the deepest, most guttural male voice. Just dripping with hatred: 'you're nothing. You're worth nothing. God hates you.'"
  — Raven, reading Olga’s story (07:12)

• "Anytime you hear about the crouching entity, you immediately start thinking skinwalker. I wonder where these people are. New Mexico, Vegas, Arizona."
  — TopLobsta (18:27)

• "I think the video that we just saw is real, but I think it’s like a production for a bad film...it's a teaser. It's a really bad [promo]."
  — Raven on Panama Alien (29:22)

• "Sadness, grief, and suffering continued to intercede...like someone trapped in a cage crying for help, like abused children, like the worst feelings of hell I could imagine."
  — Raven (46:34)

• "I step up, I put my hand on the door, and I pray...right when I put my hand on the door, what happens is a very loud, loud sound erupts from the house...dogs barking...I broke a boundary or something, and something did not like it at all."
  — Raven (71:28)

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Key Takeaways

• Paranormal and demonic activity, from public restrooms to haunted houses, often overlaps with psychological explanations, but the show’s biblical framing pushes listeners to consider unseen spiritual battles.
• Online hoaxes like the "Panama Alien" are deconstructed with skepticism, entertainment, and wariness for modern digital folklore.
• Community and accountability: Both the community Thoreau and the danger of charismatic gatherings (e.g., open prayer rooms attracting spiritual leeches) get explored with concern for spiritual safety.
• Personal vulnerability: The hosts and writers occasionally get raw about mental health, addiction, and the struggle for holiness—not just supernatural thrills.
• Humor and irreverence remain ever-present, with recurring riffs on the audience, each other, and “producer” Nancy.

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:32 – 04:00: Show opening, banter, Patreon details
• 03:42 – 13:24: "Restroom Demon" (Olga’s Olive Garden story)
• 14:59 – 21:23: "Shadow Person" (Cutter’s story)
• 23:41 – 31:46: Panama Alien saga breakdown
• 31:47 – 74:55: "Hell House" long-form testimony (Daddy Profit Bunny)
• 75:28 – 87:29: Raven’s real-life “haunting” homeless camp story
• Throughout: Community-building, coffee shop plans, and Nancy car-guessing bit

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Final Thoughts

This episode captures the signature flavor of Nephilim Death Squad: stories of the supernatural, playful/irreverent banter, scriptural curiosity, and a community grappling with the weird and the wicked. The blend of listener testimony, skeptical inquiry, biblical worldview, and working-class camaraderie gives this show its unique personality. Long-time fans will appreciate the references and tangents; newcomers will get a crash course in both the chilling and the ridiculous sides of modern paranormal culture.

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(End of summary)

Transcript

[A]

Foreign. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, to another episode of NDS Chronicles, the show where we read your schizophrenic testimony, paranormal testimony, but it's often from schizophrenics.

[B]

Don't be disrespectful.

[A]

I am David Lee Corbo, AKA the Raven, that is Top Lobster, the father of changing the set because we've been abandoned by our previous guests. So this is a little bit of an prompt to NDS Chronicles. Say hi, Nancy.

[C]

Hi.

[B]

Take your time.

[A]

Isn't she great?

[B]

I know. It's just, you know, it's like days.

[A]

It's strange how it takes her, like, a long time. I think when I say, say hi, Nancy, she goes again, and then she says it again. With this, we're gonna go live exclusively to Patreon.com forward slash Nephilim death Squad sometime around the half an hour mark, if you want to continue enjoying live episodes, early access, two episodes, and ad free viewing experiences, as well as Bohemian Grove T. When they drop our Patreon members will get access to Those and the VIP tickets first before anybody else does. And patreon.com forward/nephilim death Squad is where you want to be. Also, there's a little discount code off of merchandise from toplobster.com on that. Their website. Maybe. Can we find something? We have anything kind of spooky for the. Well, I think Top Dog, man. That's a good one.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because, you know, Dogman comes up in the spooky stories. We're doing a spooky story show and. Oh, it comes in purple.

[B]

Comes in purple, comes in white, I think.

[A]

How about that? Only black people look good in purple, so that's there for you if you.

[B]

Want that something that we're supposed to say.

[A]

I think it's just an observation and it's true about black people. All right, let's get into the show. Today we really got Nancy on her heels because she's the one who cultivates the spooky story. So when we don't get around to your email, it's because Nancy has deemed it unfit. Yeah. Unnecessary. Not a good fit for the show. She doesn't like it. She's our filter.

[B]

We shouldn't have even done a show today. We should have went back to the coffee shop.

[A]

Broken 76 says, I'm chill, homie. You can unban me. I'll mind my mouth.

[B]

All right. What's up, brother? You're back in.

[A]

That's black.

[B]

Oh, sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I gotta figure out how to unban you.

[A]

You're unbanned. Consider yourself unbanned. Sweet, sweet. Broken 76.

[B]

It's just a mix up, Nancy. Go ahead and do that.

[A]

Yeah, go ahead and cultivate these things in our. In our Google Drive file so that we may. We can. We can look for.

[C]

There's a bunch in there already.

[A]

Oh, dude. We've been. We've been saying Nancy doesn't do her job, and she's like, you.

[B]

Nancy. What I'm saying is unbanned, broken. You go ahead and do that.

[A]

Oh, can she do that?

[B]

I don't know. Oh, I can do it right now.

[A]

I'm gonna do it right now. Fine. Fine.

[B]

All right.

[A]

I'm trying to find the folder so that we can start the show. Probably should have had that. Here we go. NDS Chronicle submissions. Who we're gonna start with today. Nancy, do you have any. Any picks, Any. Any favorites of yours that you can remember? If not, it's.

[B]

All right.

[C]

There are a couple of short ones that I like.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

All right. Same name, Olga.

[A]

Olga. Oh, okay. I like Olga. That's a good.

[B]

I don't like it already.

[A]

I like Olga because it's a sturdy white woman's name. A thick limbed white woman's name. Olga. She has. Restroom demon is the name of this. Oh, and it is. It's relatively short. All right, let's get into it. She says, hey, tards. Hey, Olga.

[B]

Hold on. The broken. You're unblocked.

[A]

You're unblocked.

[B]

Broken Steve, whoever Steve is, you're still blocked.

[A]

You're still blocked.

[B]

Sorry, Steven.

[A]

Oh, Steve pissed me off. He was. He was making mouth noises I didn't like. And I told him he's got a. Well, I didn't say. I just blocked him. All right, so. So it says, hey, tards.

[B]

Oh, whoa.

[A]

We gotta block this Olga block. Sometime in 2010-2011, I was working as a hostess in Olive Garden in Orlando.

[B]

Okay, that's the trashiest place you can work.

[A]

Well, Olive Garden has delicious breadsticks. And if you're a fan of refined.

[B]

Carbohydrates, you look cross eyed for some reason.

[A]

Yeah, well, hey, you just set up.

[B]

They look like Michael Bisbend.

[A]

They do look cross eyed. What's going on here?

[B]

I like it. It gives you character.

[A]

I don't like it at all. All right, whatever. I'm retarded now. So one day during lunch shift, I go to the ladies room.

[B]

It's distracting.

[A]

Don't look at it. Stop looking at it. Guys, please don't look at my screen when I'm on the screen. Because apparently, I don't know. I don't know how to look with my. My. I don't know if I should look over here now or one day during a lunch shift. I go to the ladies room. No one is there but me. And that's the best. When you go to drop a deuce in a public restroom and you're the only person in there. It's awesome.

[B]

Yeah. Do with the stall open.

[A]

It's the. It's the worst. When you go in there.

[B]

Do you remember when I sent you that poop? Yeah, that was a sick poop, dude.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Came out. It was the same thing. The dude was by himself. I came in.

[A]

Spooky stories.

[B]

This was spooky.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

This was at, like, Ross, which is why I don't shop there anymore.

[A]

You feel like they'll recognize you?

[B]

No, no, it wasn't me. It was a dude. He walked out and he's. He gave us, like. He's like. Yeah. Like, gave us a little head nod. I was like, this dude's chill. I went into the stall that he was at because it was the big one.

[A]

I had both kids and you. And that's something that the people should know about you. You prefer a warm toilet seat. You will sit down if there's an open stall. If there's two of them, you'll pick the one where a dude was just sitting. Because you, as you put it, I don't like the shock of a cold toilet seat.

[B]

Never said that.

[A]

Okay. Go on.

[B]

Yo, dude. The log. I mean, when I say, like, comically big, it was like. It was thicker than a soda can.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

And it was like this wide and it couldn't be flushed.

[A]

This is a Christian show.

[B]

It was in the part of the toilet bowl that should take it, but it wouldn't. Somebody would have to come in there and break it to flush it. But when he walked out, I remember his face going, like, best shit ever.

[A]

I know a guy I grew up with, he had a poop night.

[B]

Dude, I have a picture of it.

[A]

No, no, no. Come on, let's. Let's do the show. Okay. You gotta see it. No one is there but me. As I'm going to leave the stall, someone comes in and walks to the sink. Nothing happens for a second. And. Yeah, dude, honestly, I. I gotta take your word for it. Pictures don't do it justice. When I took pictures of the mountains in Colorado, I said, this simply doesn't do it justice. I think that's a very similar.

[B]

Nancy sending it to the chat right now.

[A]

Don't show it on screen.

[B]

No, I'm not gonna show it on screen. It's just so Nancy knows. But please continue. All right, Olive Garden. She's taking a.

[A]

Nothing happened. Nothing happens for a second. And then this person starts taking. Talking in the deepest, most guttural male voice. Just dripping with hatred. Going from growling to whisper. Screams echoing in the restroom. This sounds like it. This is a kind of a trans situation.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a dude, but 2011.

[A]

This is ahead of the curve. Hey, welcome to the Patreon Broken. All right. So is he back?

[B]

Is he in? He's back.

[A]

All right. $5. You could be like broken. You could sign up for $5. All right. Might block you. So dripping with hatred. Going from growling to whisper. Screams echoing in the restroom. Sounded like a person was talking to themselves in a mirror. I don't remember much of what was said other than, you're nothing. You're worth nothing. God hates you.

[B]

Whoa.

[A]

That's the kind of a restroom visit. That's how I. After I drop one of those in the. I go, God doesn't like you. The rest was same type of stuff.

[B]

My kids were asking me if Jesus poops.

[A]

And I was like, not in his super cool body.

[B]

No, not now. But like before he did, it was probably really funny.

[A]

Yeah, poop is.

[B]

Poop is hilarious.

[A]

I've been having the kind of. All right, you know, you know what? You know, we're not gonna do that. It's fine.

[B]

Don't do that.

[A]

But again, you know, we can talk about Jesus movement. That's fine. It goes on for like 30 seconds. I'm hiding in the stall completely frozen. Every hair on my body is up. I've never been that viscerally freaked out in my life. Just hoping at this point that the person gets the. We're not going to say that. We can talk about poop on this show.

[B]

Once we move our operation to the.

[A]

Coffee shop, we can't have fun anymore. What are you talking about?

[B]

I mean, you can have fun. You just can't say the things that you always like to say.

[A]

I don't. What are those? I don't. I just say I think we keep.

[B]

The same exact setup and we duplicate it.

[A]

But we can do.

[B]

But it would have to be a table. It would have to be available.

[A]

For those of you who are wondering what he's talking about.

[B]

We're.

[A]

We're a. Jesus had. Holy hay. That's not. Ghost of the Broken.

[B]

You know what? Ghost of the broken.

[A]

Block, dude. Block them, Block them. We're. We're getting ready to open up a secondary studio at Matt's coffee shop. So if you guys are in the area and you want to come and see us, you want to come see Matt. Which by the way, a lot of people have been showing up to Matt's coffee shop fans of the show and he really enjoys that and I think it's really cool. So it's a kind of a community hub. We'll be doing the show out of there on occasion as well as it seems taking on Matt as a additional content creator. Yeah, we've been talking about that having Matt do Bible studies. We don't always have to be with them. We want to give him a platform. You guys really like Matt. We really like Matt. I think he would be a great addition to. This is kind of the NDS verse.

[B]

The NDS verse.

[A]

Yeah, the NDS verse. Okay. Anyhow, we're growing. Where was I? So she's viscerally freaked out. Just hoping at this point that the person gets the F out. Or it just feels early for the. For the F word. Maybe I'll say it later. So. So it just feels early still so I can come out. So she's in the stall. I imagine she's probably lifting her leg so that this other person doesn't detect that there's somebody in the stall. And she's terrified. Nothing happens. At some point I have to go back to work. So I finally come out. I couldn't. What. What job pays you enough? Let me ask you that Olive Garden. Well, I guess if you're a server.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They start to freak out when the servers go missing for too long. The woman by the mirror is some 53, white, wiry lady, all smiley says, hey, how are you, poof. In a cheery high pitched voice to me. I got the out of there.

[B]

Olga. You net with it.

[A]

Olga's got a mouth on her.

[B]

Olga's probably only 5, 3.

[A]

Olga's got thick legs, calves.

[B]

I don't. Oh, probably. She's probably very thin, but her calves are super stumpy. Yeah, yeah, I get it.

[A]

She got the F out of there as quickly as she could. Initially I thought she was on a mat or something.

[B]

Stumpy legged.

[A]

Well, I'm just saying like an athletic. Like this is a woman that is capable of carrying, you know, pails of water over her shoulders type of deal. From the river to the.

[B]

To the sea.

[A]

To the sea. Hey. Hey man, what are you doing?

[B]

Oh, this isn't live.

[A]

No. Lil Sandwich. Lil sandwich. No, this is pre recorded. Initially I thought she was on meth or something. But now, years later, after I've seen a ton of drug addicts and Baker acted. Oh, Baker acted patients. Because of my work at the Olive Garden. You've seen a lot of Baker acted patients at the. I mean, yeah, that checks out.

[B]

I told you. Olive Garden is literally hell.

[A]

It's a establishment.

[B]

Baker acted in Olive Garden.

[A]

Not the first time, not the last time. One of many, I'm sure. I realized that she wasn't tweaking. At least not at that moment when she was speaking in a male demonic voice. She didn't look manic either. Her eyes were normal, hands didn't shake. Etc, crazy. Anyway, thank you all for the content. You guys are the best. Olga, P. S. From one Afro addict to another. David, shout out Afro addicts all around the world. All around this flat stationary plane. The way to get off it somewhat comfortably is to spray it in one nostril only for like a week. You will still be able to breathe as the other side of the nose goes through withdrawals.

[B]

Oh, interesting.

[A]

That's a. That's a experienced addict. Thank you, Olga. And I think there's probably a lot of Afro addicts that. That appreciate that information. Wonderful story. Really scary. Really scary. Guttural growling.

[B]

The scariest part is man voice. Being in a. Being in an Olive Garden bathroom.

[A]

Well, I. I just. I find it disheartening to know that when I'm. When I'm elbow deep in an unlimited bread basket that that's what's going on in the restroom. Only. Only a few hundred feet.

[B]

They're saying. They're saying in the chat that the rapture is at 2:00pm Central. So what is that for us?

[A]

Three? Yeah, three o'. Clock. That leaves me enough time to get my outfit ready.

[B]

But we're busy though.

[A]

Oh my God. We're gonna be talking to seven seas. We'll certainly be raptured. Mid conversation.

[B]

Just balls deep in charts. We can't. Kim, is there any way to push it?

[A]

Oh, to another day.

[B]

Just later. Just later. Today should be fine.

[A]

Well, we'll be raptured. Oh, well, we're gonna ask to stay. I don't know. We got to figure out the details. Real. We're not good at planning. No, we really should have. Okay, that was a wonderful. Thank you very much, Olga. Nancy, do you have any other suggestions? If not, we. We could just pick something. But I like asking.

[B]

Yeah, we're gonna. We're gonna talk with Nancy. We're gonna be real nice to Nancy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Look at this one. 824 says 19 effing pages. That's all that it says.

[A]

Dude.

[C]

I actually didn't read that one.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

It's 19 pages. That's more pages than I've ever read read in my life.

[B]

Can you highlight that executive and put it in chat GPT and say is it good and see what chatgpt.

[A]

Is it good? Yeah, let's do that. In the meantime, let's see. Do you have any recommendations or should we just pick one minute?

[C]

Shadow person.

[A]

Shadow person. Okay. 8. 14. Shadow person. You want to pick this one up top?

[B]

Yeah, we'll pick this up.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Actually.

[A]

Oh, it's not that long either. Or is it? It might be loading still.

[B]

I've changed our banner. That.

[A]

Oh, that's right. Nancy will be reading all super chats out loud. Maybe you can pose them in the form of questions and. And we can make some content out of it instead of, you know, racial slurs.

[B]

I feel like. Yeah, when you. When you're low on content, we. We just do the. We fall back on burps. Slurs. Slurs.

[A]

That's what happens. And I don't want to be the burp slur guys. I want to be the content guys.

[B]

We gotta prep. I prepped a whole debate prep for Beck lover. He didn't show up.

[A]

Tylenol on the Hill says hopefully the rapture doesn't have NDs start time. Yeah, well, I'm looking forward to. I don't know if it's supposed to be 2pm essential or if it's supposed to be nighttime.

[B]

Well, did you know that that. That black Cuban Mecca was. It used to house old. Old, like, idols in it, but now.

[A]

It doesn't have like a chunk of meteorite in it. I don't care what these Muslims stuff, dude.

[B]

I don't really care either.

[A]

But I was like, what the Muslims do.

[B]

Yeah, but it's good to know.

[A]

Is it?

[B]

Maybe. Maybe it's good to know.

[A]

I know a couple of things. I know the goats and the boys and the.

[B]

Oh, that's okay now. Now you're crossing the line.

[A]

Fine. Let's go.

[B]

Let's shadow people by somebody named Cutter.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

I don't know if I. I don't.

[A]

Like that at all.

[B]

They just get. They get right into it, I swear. Something similar came up on one of your episodes and it reminded me of what happened to my wife and I. This is a guy. Always good to know guys. When you write in my wife, put a little, like, a male sign or a female sign so we know whether.

[A]

Or not to ignore. No, no, no.

[B]

I mean, the level of respect that I like. I'll put a little bit more respect on this one. Sure. Right. What do you think?

[A]

Yeah, I think that's fair.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Spice Boy. Spice Girl.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Spice Boy calling in.

[A]

Oh, you net knows the Panama venom is swimming now. That's right. I told you, dude. He put it in the water instead of killing it.

[B]

Yeah. We'll make this into a hybrid episode. Okay, fine.

[A]

We'll get into some of the.

[B]

We'll have to change the lighting. No, no, no, no, no, no.

[A]

Just. Just read the thing.

[B]

Okay. But. No, no.

[A]

It's such a whole process. What are we going to do that for? To change the lighting? Yeah. Why?

[B]

Because this is a real deal.

[A]

Can we just read the thing?

[B]

When we were both young and poor, we were renting an apartment together. She got up to go to the kitchen, which was down the hall from our bedroom, to get some water. I stayed in our bed, parentheses bed, which was just blankets on the floor, since we were too poor to have a bed at the time.

[A]

Honestly, sometimes that, though that's a great sleeping situation.

[B]

Yes. Also, best time. Life.

[A]

Yeah. It's like. I disagree.

[B]

No, no, it was good. It was a good time. Trust me. I heard her say something, but couldn't hear the words since she was still in the kitchen. When she came back in the room, she asked what I was doing. Sorry. Sorry, people. What are you doing? Oh, yeah.

[A]

Oh, where's the spooky. Oh, my God. You get me.

[B]

I hadn't moved. So I said I was just lying here, and she said, what were you doing in the hallway? I replied I hadn't moved. She went on to tell me that she saw my shadow in the hallway, crouching down and creeping, like I was going to jump up and scare her.

[A]

Oh, that sucks.

[B]

Whoa, the crouching. Anytime you hear about the crouching entity, you immediately start thinking skinwalker. I wonder where these people are. New Mexico, Vegas, Arizona.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Somewhere on the West Coast. That seems like a West coast thing.

[A]

It does seem like a West coast thing.

[B]

You don't get. You don't get, like, crawler.

[A]

Well, well, because the skinwalker is the Native American lore, and I think people kind of, you know, like a rake. I think. Like when we did the Faceless story.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I think what he saw was more of a rake, which is that lanky, pale, featureless, kind of, you know, anorexic. Looking thing with the long limbs and the long fingers. Yeah, That I think is a rake. A skinwalker is a reference to the Native American witch doctors who collect the pelts and bones of animals, do rituals, and then embody them to some degree or another. Whether it's like creating the illusion that they are a skinwalker or actually transforming into the animal or somehow like remote controlling the animal from a separate location.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And embodying its consciousness. And then there is like the wendigo, which is kind of like a forest creature, also long and lanky, often has like antlers and a skull of a deer for a head and that plugs into the shadow.

[B]

What is this guy called? The guy with the suit and the hat.

[A]

Oh, like hat man. But they also like the. Oh, that douche. Yeah, he's like a. He's like a rake in a suit.

[B]

Yeah, he dressed up for the occasion.

[A]

He dressed up for you a little bit.

[B]

All right. So she sees this thing crouching down and creeping like it was going to jump and scare her. She said to the shadow, what are you doing? Which is when I heard her voice, but I hadn't understood it. I asked why she thought it was me, and she said it was clearly my shadow, except evil or creepy.

[A]

That's interesting. I'm listening to Nathaniel Gillis talk about the phenomenon I'm still getting. Making my way through that episode on Merkel. And that's one of the consistent things, is appearing as the spouse.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. It. I wonder how much meaningful consent they can get by appearing as and getting.

[A]

I don't know. I. I don't know.

[B]

A little creepy. A little creepy. Thought so. I thought it was odd and I said as much to her. I then went to close the sliding closet door, which was at the head of our makeshift bed. I yelled and pretended I was being pulled into the closet, which earned me a well deserved punch in the ribs.

[A]

Nice.

[B]

When I started laughing.

[A]

It's very funny.

[B]

I guess it wasn't as funny as I thought it was, especially since she was quite on edge from the crouching hallway. Shadow, huh? Yours truly, Cutter. This is a. This is a nice one.

[A]

That's a silly. Yeah.

[B]

Right to the point. Here's my shadow man entity. This is like not. Not quite good enough of a story to get on Merkel.

[A]

Right. Good enough for this piece of shit show.

[B]

Yeah. Your producer, Nancy will probably think this is neat.

[A]

Yeah. Well, this is definitely up Nancy's alley, right? Like this kind of spooky, creepy, you know? Is it a skinwalker conversation? Is it posing as your loved one. I. I like it. By the way. I highly recommend. And we might have to have him back in studio or in studio would be great on the show. Nathaniel Gillis. We had a great conversation with him last time, and a lot of this is kind of a rehashing of what we talked to him about. But he's got some details, like one of the things that Merkel hasn't asked him. First off, check out the episode. Merkel has Nathaniel Gillisan a lot of really important information about. And I like his expression, the phenomenon. It encompasses all these things because it seems like they're all connected. That's what people scoffed at when we saw the whole Bigfoot, portals, orbs, alien connection. And people said, no, couldn't possibly be it. This does a good job of kind of explaining why that may well be the case. One of the things that he didn't touch on and I would have liked to have seen this is where parasites fall in. Because he's looking at the phenomenon from the point of view of almost a program that adapts and learns on the fly and shows you whatever you're most likely to accept at the time and also what will likely scare you if you don't show fear, that it kind of gets upset. And it's like, I don't know what to do here. But where do parasites play in his research? Because I think there is a real obvious connection between people having parasites and people also experiencing demonic possession. I've said in the past, I think it's an organic conduit for whatever energy wave they exist in. And it's almost like a conductor. Makes it a lot easier for them to possess the host. So. But either way, we should talk to him and. And get him back on. Why don't we do this? Why don't we shift gears a little bit and I. And I want to do a little update on this Panamanian man and this creature. You're gonna do that, and that's fine. It's a seamless transition, and I will allow it. Let's go, Panama. You got to be really careful here on Twitter because you start just typing in all willy nilly and you get vaginas. It's crazy. I typed in Panama last time and it was like, how about this Panamanian? And I was like, dude, come on, man.

[B]

See what I mean? You see what I mean, David?

[A]

What?

[B]

Just crossing the line.

[A]

Did I?

[B]

Yeah, dude. What if we were in the coffee shop? You can't do that.

[A]

I don't think anything. I. I I didn't say anything that was, like, super wrong.

[B]

All right, what are we doing here?

[A]

Okay, so here, I'm gonna send this to the production room. Let's look at this, guys. The latest with the Panamanian man and the meteorite. What was that? Oh, that's not me. Don't put that on the screen. You're worried about me saying the P word, and that's crazy. So. So a quick. A brief update on the Panamanian man situation.

[B]

This is.

[A]

No, dude, that's. It's the exact same location that I watched him drop it in the water. There's another video that is a lot.

[B]

Look at it.

[A]

Yeah. Wait, wait. So hold on. Let me set the stage here. A couple of days ago, he said he was going to kill it. He said, guys, tomorrow I'm gonna kill this thing. And he was saying a lot of weird stuff leading up to it. This thing will never see sunlight. Seems there's an effort to keep it from seeing sunlight until, obviously, this situation. Next day rolls around, and I'm going, man, is he gonna kill this thing? And what does that even look like? How do you kill it? He said something interesting. Panama man is gay. Agreed. He said that it smells like burning. That's how he would always describe it. It smells like something burning. And I'm like, that's weird, because I would think the only way you could kill it is to maybe set it on fire. But what does it mean if it already smells like burning? I don't know. So I'm speculating. How is he going to kill this thing? How is he going to kill this thing? Now, the next day, he changes his mind. He goes, I'm going to release it in the water. And he finds basically a submerged bit of building. I don't know where it is. It's some sort of abandoned building in the forest. And sulfur. Keisha Bear says sulfur. And that is a little troubling, right?

[B]

You gotta put this thing in salt water.

[A]

I don't know what the hell you do with it. All I know is he releases this thing into the water, and when he releases it, it's. It's not. It definitely doesn't look like this. This thing is adapted in a way. Here, let it play. You think it's a. You think it's effects?

[B]

I think. I think it's effects.

[A]

I think that. That. That is genuine. I know I have fallen for many things before. No, we're not gonna watch the African tent, all right?

[B]

I want to see the Panama. I want to see.

[A]

I'm Just gonna write careful with. With. Don't bring it up on the screen either because you will have to sift through vaginas in order to get you. Yeah, dude, it happened to me and I was kind of upset. Now that's obviously fake and I love it and I really enjoy that. This.

[B]

Is this the video of him driving it?

[A]

I believe it is. We can. We can bring it up. Let's skim through it a little bit.

[B]

We'll skim through this and we'll put this on the screen.

[A]

Another video of the guy with the alien in Panama.

[B]

You know, just a four minute video of him driving.

[A]

Driving. So I don't know if this is it. This already kind of doesn't look resemble what I saw. Oh, oh, oh, yeah, it is him. That's him.

[B]

Okay, so, yeah, he's. For the audio listeners. We'll back it up a little bit. He's driven to a desolate area. He is now by some sort of a lake or river, stream, some mud stream. Looks like an abandoned brick building or.

[A]

Yeah, it looks like something was. It used to be like a factory or something like that.

[B]

Yeah, he's gonna go in. This place looks kind of flooded out. Taken by nature. So he's walking through, he's recording it.

[A]

I would like to know if he touches it with his bare hands.

[B]

Well, let's see. Let's find out. Let's skip through.

[A]

He's walking some more, by the way. He's like, hey, thumbs up.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He discovers when he gets home he still has pieces of it in his house. Anyway.

[B]

I hate this story so much.

[A]

So it just doesn't even matter because he had broken off some pieces and put them in a vial. And has he. Okay, here we go. This is where he releases it.

[B]

Okay. So he's at the spot where he's gonna throw it in this tepid water, which is a bad idea. You want to throw it in salt water. Things that it cannot.

[A]

I think you just want to throw it in salt. And I mean the. The industrial salt that they use to salt the streets of New York City in the winter time.

[B]

Pink stuff.

[A]

Yeah, you need to throw it in a pile of that.

[B]

All right, well, let's see. See what happens here. He's taking forever. Oh, here he goes. Is he holding it?

[A]

Looks like it's in a bag. No, come on. I don't think it's in a. And that's a weird angle. You would obviously want. What is. He got a cam on himself?

[B]

This is David.

[A]

Well, that looks exactly like the Thing that was inside the, the safe. Exactly. Like the thing that was inside the. And then it just kind of sinks to the bottom. And so he comes back, like, the next day, and that's where you get the video of it suddenly swimming like a Beta fish.

[B]

He's just sitting there looking at it. He's recording himself from behind.

[A]

He's. He's very dramatic and weird.

[B]

This is a complete production.

[A]

It is a complete production, which I don't trust Panamanians. Agreed. Stacks. Hey, good to see you, dude. And I think. And, yeah, I think that my, My theory of it being. Because I think the video that we just saw is real, but I think it's like a production for a bad film.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. No, it's fake. This is completely fake.

[A]

No, no, but I mean, like, there's something in the water, you know, like, it's, in other words, it's not a video effect. Like, there's something in the water. I think there's a physical object in the water, but I think it is a, It's a, It's a teaser. It's a really bad.

[B]

Yeah, it looks like he's like. What's in the water is like he's mimicked the movements of a Betta fish.

[A]

It looks like a Beta fish. Yeah, it bears a lot of resemblance to a beta fish.

[B]

It is a beta. I'm pretty sure that's what we're looking at.

[A]

That's a big beta fish.

[B]

I mean, I don't know, but that's exactly how they move. Yeah, just like that. Huh. Very interesting. Interesting stuff. I guess it remains, you know, what does it even matter?

[A]

I don't know. Should be the question.

[B]

No, I mean, it's. Yes, it's fun, but does it matter? Because it's all over. 2:00pm Eastern Standard Time, 3:00pm oh, that's right.

[A]

We're getting, we're gonna get raptured long before we get to see the, the fruits of this space. Potato. I don't know, man. I, I don't know. I, I, I, I like it. I kind of want to go, like, watch the bad film. If this guy put this much effort into it, and he's, like, kind of gripping, you know, this part of Twitter, he's going through a lot of, you know, time to re. To record these things and to, you know, kind of build the hype and all this other. I, I think that I would watch it if it, if it turned out to be like a. Oh, it's a promo for a Panamanian movie, which I'll Watch it.

[B]

But no subtitles, please.

[A]

That's hard.

[B]

You're gonna make me read.

[A]

You know what I can't do? I cannot do dubbed. If you try to watch a movie and it's. I pick it up instantly because for some reason, the audio doesn't even sound like it's coming from the same room that I'm watching. And then once you realize that and you start to scrutinize the mouth, I'm like, I can't watch this.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, it really ruined some films. Although, you know, like, squid Games was.

[A]

Fine, but no, I can't watch games.

[B]

We're getting back into it. I need you to pick us another good story. And as we go, we're just gonna set the mood. Oh, this is great. This is great. What are you talking about?

[A]

I mean, this is production value for sure. I'll give you that. It's. You know.

[B]

We're back.

[C]

You want to do three pages?

[A]

Yeah, three pages is a. David will do it. A good amount. All right, fine.

[C]

From 8. 15. Daddy profit bunny.

[A]

Oh, Daddy Bunny. I like him. He's. He's the homie. Okay, great. Q. Creepy music. Nice. Already done. Daddy Profit Bunny. Very nice. Let's get into it. By the way, what did the title of this say? It said something I can't read because.

[B]

It won't be Hell House.

[A]

Hell House. Okay, cool. When I first got saved, it was by prayer. I came to know God as my father and I was walking with him constantly. A few days after it happened, I look back on my life in dismay. Had my life always been without him? Because now I felt as if I had always been in conversation with him. I look at it like he said, nice capitalizing of him, which I is Raven reading from. I don't know why we turned this light on. And I look cross eyed.

[B]

Yeah, you look better. I think you look better that way. You just look nicer. Like you got like. Like more character.

[A]

Like a gleam in my eyes. The world became different. The trees and everything I saw in creation was made by him. And I knew him. What is that top Has a face like Squidward. Not. Not handsome. No, not handsome.

[B]

Squidward.

[A]

Oh, damn. That's not nice. Glorious turd. People are mean.

[B]

I'm gonna stop doing this show like people.

[A]

It hurts.

[B]

It's. It's crazy. Like, the more we. We try to add production value. And look, now he's my co host. I'm looking. Master Cross eyes.

[A]

Why do I look like that?

[B]

I got a nose like Squidward.

[A]

That's not nice. These people are terrible people.

[B]

Maybe we just put up regular. Webcams are cheaper, I guess.

[A]

You guys are all really beautiful.

[B]

Yeah, the hell?

[A]

So. So I. I saw in creation. I saw in every. I'm sorry. The trees and everything I saw in creation was made by him, and I knew Him. It was wonderful. I quickly found a church, and by circumcision. Oh. By circumstance, I came. What circumstance? I came into a community with a father whose son I had previously lived with in college in another state. And we prayed for his son to come to know him. That father is now a homosexual, or so I hear.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Damn. That's a fallen.

[B]

That is a crazy sentence to go that way.

[A]

I didn't think so either. Things happen that father is homosexual. Things happen. But this community was a church that had a 247 prayer room, and I thought that this was great. I could go there any hour of the day and night or night and seek God. What a blessing. Now, it came to pass that there were those who decided to not just pray in a room, but extend this as a missionary effort into the city.

[B]

You know what? This could be a problem.

[A]

Just hold a sneeze.

[B]

I just sneeze Real.

[A]

Don't hold this.

[B]

I didn't go.

[A]

You could blow a gasket, dude.

[B]

It came out.

[A]

Yo, you'll sever your o ring.

[B]

On the latest episode of Merkel. I know you're not up to it. He's talking to Kim Walker.

[A]

She's like, I don't know. Okay.

[B]

Oh, yeah, no, no, it was fantastic. It's great so far. But she was talking about, like, that Bethel Church that. That church has, like, a lot of problems. I think Bethel might be the one that the. The pastor was like, oh, no, no. That's Elevation Church. All these churches got a lot of problems.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

That's the one where the guy's like, I feel like I'm on cocaine when I get the Holy Spirit, the. The pastor of the church first.

[A]

That's not where we were watching those dudes shake on the ground, is it?

[B]

No, you're getting dangerously close to that. And she brought up a good point where it's like, well, the 247 prayer room is a great idea. And she was talking about how they are. And they were in that church very, like, about freedom. It's a word that starts to raise him a little bit.

[A]

Tricky.

[B]

Yeah, it's tricky because they're trying to allow people to freely worship. But she's like, it's been multiple times where, like, warlocks, witches will come in there. Of course.

[A]

I was just thinking that. Yeah.

[B]

And you asked him why and he's like, not. She said not necessarily to like. Like start cursing. She was like, but there's like. There's power in the room here.

[A]

Yeah. All that spiritual energy.

[B]

Yeah. That's worrisome.

[A]

And they're there just sucking on it.

[B]

Yeah. Like leeches there. Because there is an energy there. And it's like. That's what I worry about in the church where we go to is like, there is an energy here and. But what it is is like maybe it's the Holy Spirit that they're inviting in, but it's. It's almost an open door. People are opening a lot of doors for.

[A]

Like, when you have that level of concentrated prayer energy, are you creating that thingy?

[B]

You are.

[A]

And then.

[B]

Yes, you are.

[A]

And what touching it.

[B]

What else comes in through there is a question.

[A]

I don't like that.

[B]

I don't like it either. I don't like it either.

[A]

Look, if we. If we made a secondary studio. Studio at Matt's Coffee Shop.

[B]

No tongues.

[A]

We then have to be really scrutinizing of who's coming in. I'll allow the old ladies who do a sewing Bible study.

[B]

Oh, what do you mean? They crush oh, like right next to it.

[A]

But it's like, who's coming in there, who's doing what? You gotta really watch them. Is that the Bible? Better be. The Bible.

[B]

Bible. What version?

[A]

You're saying good things about it. Let me see your hands. They get your fingers crossed.

[B]

What are you sewing? Is that a voodoo doll?

[A]

That's what we should do to everybody in there, dude. We got to protect the.

[B]

You know, just pat and pat them down for idols 100.

[A]

Imagine that's what we're have to do.

[B]

Just like eight hours security.

[A]

Like.

[B]

What are you doing here, dude? It's like. Yeah, we gotta make sure. Make sure they're on the other.

[A]

That's what I'm saying.

[B]

Oh, man.

[A]

It's not your. It's not your house anymore.

[B]

You know, this lady was like that. That church pretty much allowed anything.

[A]

If we are in town, can we swing by the coffee shop?

[B]

Of course.

[A]

Of course. People have already swung by the coffee shop.

[B]

But you have to buy a coffee.

[A]

Yeah. Don't be a broke piece. Well, they're. These are the Patreon members, so. Oh, my God. Which reminds me, it's been 37 minutes and poor people are watching this. That's so gross. I hate when that happens, man. Really disgusting.

[B]

Don't.

[A]

Bye.

[B]

We're done here, you know where to find us.

[A]

You know where to hold on.

[B]

Really get that.

[A]

I feel like I need. I've been blapped. I need to be showered.

[B]

Back door, black.

[A]

Backdoor blapping is not. Not good.

[B]

Bye. Nada.

[A]

Yeah, but do. Do purchase a coffee from Matt's coffee shop. Don't be a jerk about it.

[B]

Don't also say it like, how I say it, but it's just disrespectful.

[A]

But he. He really likes when people stop by. He gets excited. He sends us pictures every time somebody stops in that, like, is a fan of the show.

[B]

There was a fan of the show that stopped in just yesterday, and I could tell that he was a fan of the show because he looked like he needed a shower.

[A]

He looked like one of the filthy pores.

[B]

He had, like, dreads. Dreadlocks.

[A]

He's like.

[B]

He'd look cool. Very. Yeah, he did look pretty cool.

[A]

He did look cool. Yeah. All right.

[B]

So anyway, this woman was saying that, like, she was like, they allowed everything, but, like, they have certain limits. And one of the limits was she was like, a dude in the back was just levitating.

[A]

And the pastor can't do that here. He's like, no, dude, you come in and you levitate, and I'm beating you up.

[B]

He's like, you gotta. You gotta bring that down.

[A]

There you go. She said in Tony's show that they asked the guy levitating in the back.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Asking you to leave. I'm not having a conversation with you. I'm teeing off. What kind of guy's levitating?

[B]

Crazy is going on in this place?

[A]

Dude's levitating, levitation in the back.

[B]

And the pastor, like, the way she beat him up.

[A]

I drag him out, I throw him out the front, and I go, how'd you do that?

[B]

But how do you get him down from there? You got to come down.

[A]

Oh, that's a problem. I'm not very tall. Get down from there.

[B]

Get down from there.

[A]

You know better. What are you doing?

[B]

What are you doing up there?

[A]

Get out of here.

[B]

You read the sign.

[A]

Don't levitate.

[B]

No levitating.

[A]

We gotta have a sign.

[B]

A guy like this.

[A]

Well, now we know that we need a sign for levitation.

[B]

No levitation.

[A]

No, no. No sacrifices, big or small. You know, like small creatures or big creatures. We're talking to you maybe. I don't know. Do we have them take off their shoes?

[B]

No shoes. No shoes, no shirt.

[A]

Wash your hands with holy water. Potential spam is Calling me. I like when my. My phone's like, potential spam dog. I got you. Yeah, I mean, a lot of things to consider once you start operating on turf that is not your own. But we're in good hands. I mean, you know, it's. It's Matt.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Matt's a spiritual warrior. He's saying it like that because he's straight Bible.

[B]

Okay, but don't.

[A]

Straight Bible.

[B]

Don't be like that, though. That's not nice.

[A]

Friday Night Lights on Friday.

[B]

Are you going Friday night?

[A]

No, I'm not going.

[B]

You should go chat real quick. Should David go to a football game Friday night?

[A]

Dude, why would I go to a football game? I don't like football.

[B]

Doesn't matter.

[A]

And no, it's a nice experience. Matt already said, if you're not going, he's not going to. He didn't say if I'm not going. He said, if you're not going, he's not going.

[B]

That's crazy thing to say. I can't go.

[A]

But if you're watching wwe, if you.

[B]

Guys are going to be in Orlando watching smackdown, come say hi to me.

[A]

What do you mean, smackdown? Like, it's the actual smackdown.

[B]

It's the smackdown you've got.

[A]

You're going to smackdown.

[B]

I'm going my cousin, but I'm bringing my son.

[A]

It's gonna be. He's gonna love it. Dude.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

I think he's gonna love it.

[B]

I'm nervous about it, I guess. Hold on one second. Yeah, I'm a little nervous.

[A]

You don't like the. Why you need to change the lights for this.

[B]

I'm a little nervous he's gonna like it. If he's gonna like it or not, why wouldn't he?

[A]

He's.

[B]

He's a weird kid.

[A]

Yeah, but he likes violence.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, I know, but it's a lot. It's. It's a stadium.

[A]

Oh, sure, sure. Like, yeah. I mean, I would be like, he.

[B]

Doesn'T even really care about wrestling. Not yet.

[A]

Well, he's not seen it like that. He's not seeing it with the. The pyro trying to sell it, dog.

[B]

Every day I'm like, guess what?

[A]

What?

[B]

Four days till wrestling.

[A]

You gotta show him some highlights.

[B]

I show him some stuff.

[A]

He's like, he's gay and fake. Obviously. He.

[B]

He watches A fishing YouTube channel. A fishing YouTube channel.

[A]

He likes it.

[B]

They. They. You know what my kids like? They like content.

[A]

I've been noticing this show.

[B]

They don't like this. They watches. They like this Is bad.

[A]

Oh, because we're not doing anything.

[B]

We're not doing content. We're sitting, we're talking.

[A]

Maybe if we moved our hands a lot while we. I kind of do that already, though.

[B]

Hey, Chat.

[A]

Hey.

[B]

What do you think about. Yeah, we're gonna. It's like, I'm gonna catch fish in this Lego book.

[A]

It's about supporting your fellow Christians. Why? So I can go to a ball game? B A, A L game. Is that what you want from me?

[B]

It is about supporting your fellow Christians. You should go with your son.

[A]

And what do they do? They take an egg and they run it down a field.

[B]

So what? It's a great. It's a great time when they score.

[A]

A touchdown, they go or fig.

[B]

You want to know what David does realistically to bomb with his son? We're gonna blow him up right now. He watches the Avengers movies.

[A]

No, I haven't watched in order.

[B]

He does.

[A]

We haven't watched it since the day you came over and you derailed it.

[B]

Oh, yeah, because I was like, this is gay. What are you doing?

[A]

That's not what you said. You were like, oh, this is great. It's Guardians of the Galaxy. But it just got so chaotic and we lost track and then. And then, you know.

[B]

Good.

[A]

But he likes.

[B]

Bring him to the football game.

[A]

I didn't bring him to the football game.

[B]

All right, back to the. Back to the real show.

[A]

Gotta get them. Thank you. Friday night lights. On Fridays they would meet, pray for an hour, and God asked God to show them people or things, whatever came to mind in prayer and worship that they might know who to look for to an ex to. Except extend the offer of prayer to the people we met. All they knew was we were asking random strangers if they needed prayer. People outside clubs or bars, homeless or whatnot. The first time I joined them, I got two images in my mind, very nervous to share. But I prefaced it with scripture. I read that morning quote, God has not given you a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of sound mind. The first image was that of cheetah print. The second was a blue scarf. Dreams. Now, nothing came of the blue scarf. But let me tell you what.

[B]

What.

[A]

When we arrived downtown and started to break off into groups, two by two, we got to this music joint, the Vanguard or something. Apparently there was a weekend music fest and people were overflowing outside into the street. Punk rockers.

[B]

Hold on one second. Sancho's calling your. Your nonsense here.

[A]

What?

[B]

Said you just watched the Avengers last week.

[A]

That's not true that last week.

[B]

I believe Sancho.

[A]

He's just got a distorted idea of time. I watched. We watched Avengers. It would have been like over a month ago.

[B]

No, no, no, not Scott. He knows.

[A]

I mean, I. He do be known punk rockers. They were covered in cheetah print. Ah, disgusting.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

At first we saw a woman with it in her hair and I thought, aha, here is the person. Person we shall pray for. And before I knew it, the pastor came up to me and was like, it's everywhere.

[B]

What's everywhere?

[A]

Cheetah print. There was someone with cheetah print on his Converse. Another with cheetah print. Handkerchief. Jiff. Handkerchief. Handkerchief. A napkin. Another with a tattoo of cheetah print on their shoulder. Another. It was on their shirt. By God.

[B]

By God.

[A]

By God.

[B]

Anyone else doesn't know what.

[A]

My God. My God.

[B]

Yeah. Nancy, do you know who Jim Ross is?

[C]

No.

[B]

Whatever.

[A]

Keep reading. Where was I? By God. We had asked and received, but I didn't know what to do. We sat out there and talked with as many as would engage and prayed for as many as would receive. I smoked a cigarette with a boy who offered and was blown away by the grace of God to meet us in that place and for him to work through us and withstand even me having a cigarette with them so as not to offend or pretense as holier than thou. Now, I continued with them on Fridays as often as I could. But eventually things happened that left me confused. Emotions of wanting to do more and an instance that brought me to fear that maybe my motives were not right. Regardless, these experiences solidified both this gift of prayer God gave me and the boldness to encounter the world with it. And this was good. I would go on walks in my neighborhood and just pray just for myself. I loved watching the sunset. And nearly every day around five, I'd go for a walk and pray. And at one point on my prayer walk, I started to cry. Embarrassing. I may cry. I may cry at some point during morning prayer, especially in repentance or in thanksgiving of God's goodness, but this was different. Grief, sadness.

[B]

Let me tell you something really quick.

[A]

Go ahead, tell me the thing, which.

[B]

Is a thing that makes me laugh.

[A]

Okay. Oh, all right.

[B]

We're back into. So we're going to be doing the show with Matt or Matt's going to be doing his own thing.

[A]

That's going to be doing his own thing, apparently. Yeah. Very excited for that.

[B]

And I was. I was trying to prepare him. I was like, you want to do it by yourself. And he's like, yeah. Like, screw you guys.

[A]

Does he want to do it, like, live?

[B]

I don't know. I don't know. But I was asking. I was like, you have to be prepared if you're going to monologue. It's not easy. I don't know if even I can do it. Monologue for 45 minutes to an hour and a half, depending on how long this is by yourself. And he looked me in the face, because this guy reminds me during his morning prayers and crying.

[A]

It's like, I'm never alone.

[B]

He said, for the last 20 years, I've been sit. He sits in his closet when he reads the Bible facing the wall and just talks to himself.

[A]

He reads the Bible out loud?

[B]

Out loud. He does full sermons to himself by himself.

[A]

That's gangster.

[B]

That's. I'm like, you're ready? You're. You're in. Yeah, that's impossible to do. And I was like, how long do you do this for? He's like, 45 minutes. And I was like, that's it. You're in.

[A]

What a. It's crazy.

[B]

That's hard to do.

[A]

Yeah. I like that idea of doing it in the closet. I have a big closet, and, you know, I'm just, like, looking.

[B]

Doing it already. Just needs a camera, that's all. That's it.

[A]

He should just do it in his closet. I think it really sets, like, the mood, the tone.

[B]

I like that wall.

[A]

Yeah, dude. To the. From the windows to the wall. No, Come on.

[B]

I seen them live.

[A]

Did you really saw the Yin Yang twins live accidentally? What a nightmare. What?

[B]

It was a nightmare, dog.

[A]

That's. That's. That's horrible.

[B]

I was. Okay, first off, I was at a furry convention, which was supposed to be. Yeah, I know, but it was supposed to. I went there to support my cousin who was an artist.

[A]

Is he a furry?

[B]

No, he's not a furry.

[A]

Is he the wrestler enjoyer? The wrestling enjoyer?

[B]

No, but he came.

[A]

I like that guy.

[B]

Andre. That's who I'm going to see wrestling with him. Oh, really?

[A]

Okay. All right.

[B]

You should come.

[A]

I have a cousin that. Well, you've met him. Gabe loves wrestling.

[B]

Gabe should hang out anyway.

[A]

Far away.

[B]

I forgot what I was saying as you distracted me.

[A]

You were in the closet reading the Bible?

[B]

No.

[A]

Yelling at the wall?

[B]

No, it was none of those things.

[A]

I don't remember what it was. All right, we'll set the mood again.

[B]

That's crazy. We just lost that thought. It's gone.

[A]

It's gone. Now God said move on. Can you move on?

[B]

Jesus. I know Nancy's supposed to play the music.

[A]

Nancy, where's the music? Nancy, it's fine. Please don't. It's very jarring when you do it. I kept walking and interceded as best I could, but it was like a wave of emotions that came randomly, and suddenly I didn't know what to do other than keep walking and praying.

[B]

Oh, wait, wait.

[A]

They got it. Oh, it's back.

[B]

They did it.

[A]

Activate pupils. Oh, dude, I'm gonna have this show. Is.

[B]

It was the Furries and the Yin Yang Twins.

[A]

We forget.

[B]

Okay, Possibly forget.

[A]

All right, what about them?

[B]

I was at a furry convention that was supposed to be.

[A]

Again, Yang Twins convention.

[B]

No.

[A]

All right.

[B]

It was supposed to just. He was there. He makes cards. He draws cards. He did our cards wherever they probably. So he draws for a card company, and he's there, and fans come up, and then he draws for them. Turns out this place you would have loved because they were selling Pokemon cards like crazy. Probably real. Oh, dude. It was a convention floor. And, like, I'd say half of the booths were selling Pokemon cards. Some specifically only Pokemon cards.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

But it was a card convention that turned into a furry convention because only furries go to this weird. All right, see? You see what you're dabbling in.

[A]

I don't like.

[B]

And then.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then for no reason at all, I did. They set up a stage, but, like, way over there, so I don't see them. I'm chilling with my cousin, and. And they just start playing, like. And I'm, like, looking. I was like, furries love the Yin Yang.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah. And then I was like, oh, that's crazy. They're throwing a party, and. And we walk over there, and it's the Yin Yang Twins. Yin Yang Twins.

[A]

Yin. And is it yin yang or yin yang?

[B]

I think it's yin yang because they.

[A]

Wouldn'T know how to pronounce it, how to actually pronounce it.

[B]

Nancy, do you get crunk?

[C]

I don't know what that is.

[A]

What is getting crunk? It's like, you know, are you hanging out? Are you blasting music? Are you drinking? Are you dancing?

[B]

You drink out of, like, a big. A bedazzled go.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

No.

[B]

Well, you're missing out. You're missing out, Nancy. Anyway, they were there.

[A]

Fun. Nancy.

[B]

Yeah. Are you having. Nancy, are you having fun?

[A]

What are you doing? Are you. Do you go. Do you have any fun, Nancy?

[C]

Sometimes. No, not really.

[B]

It's like a struggle session. She says no, it's like, I know Nancy, you gotta. You know what? We're. We're figuring it out, but as long as the people continue to subscribe and give us more money. We have figured this out.

[A]

Get to the point, please. The number one thing you could do isn't give us your money. There's not enough of you. You need to share this show with as many people as you can so that we can make enough money to move Nancy out with here and integrate her into our cult. Because clearly that's what we're doing, by the way.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We're gathering really, community.

[B]

Realistically, what we need, we just need to keep Nancy, like, moist or something.

[A]

Like sprayer a lot with, like, a spritzer. And then she needs a. Like a heating rock. You know how much a terrarium of that size costs? It's a lot. I mean, we can make her a small one, but we like for her to be able to stretch her legs and stuff. So we need a big one if we could get her a big terrarium. And isn't that all a house is, is just a big terrarium?

[B]

I saw a great video of how we could effectively help her shed.

[A]

Oh, yeah, they take an air gun.

[B]

They do. And they blow them up.

[A]

Yeah. Nobody is around to help Nancy shed her skin. And in the process, takes a lot longer than it should. She needs. Honestly, and she won't say it, but she needs a lot more attention than. Than she'll put on. And I. I gotta say that for her, because if you ask her, she will say, no, I'm fine.

[B]

But the nutrients, the nutrients from the shedded stuff.

[A]

Well, they sell a powder. You cover her food in the powder, and it's like a nutrient dense powder. It's got a weird smell.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Next day, I was praying and walking.

[B]

She's never gonna come back.

[A]

Oh. And a similar thing happened. Sadness, grief, and suffering continued to intercede. And eventually, as I walked, the emotions faded. Now this happened again.

[B]

Hold on. Nancy. Are you sad about that? Did we make it?

[A]

Was that. Did we go too far? Nancy?

[C]

No.

[B]

Nancy's just a Magic 8 ball. She's just like, maybe next time, man.

[A]

That's interesting. Elohim says, I feel like Nancy is over there quietly drawing very detailed phallic images. I feel like she draws, like, dead animals.

[B]

Yeah, like how she'd kill them. Well, because we don't let her anymore.

[A]

I think what she draws is like the roadkill that she's seen on her way to work and back.

[B]

What kind of car do you Drive Nancy.

[A]

Is it a red Kia Soul?

[C]

No.

[B]

You don't drive a Subaru, do you?

[C]

No.

[B]

A Hyundai?

[A]

No, I think she drives a Ford. Oh, no. A Chevy Cobalt O.

[C]

No.

[A]

How weird would that have been?

[B]

A Honda crv.

[A]

Last.

[B]

Last guess.

[A]

Fine.

[B]

A flesh interface.

[A]

You keep your secrets, Nancy.

[B]

Fine, we'll keep guessing. It's a Jetta.

[A]

Oh, it's a Jetta. I think she drives a Volkswagen Jetta.

[C]

No.

[A]

All right, well, let's put some actual thought into it, and then we'll. We'll fire off one or two later on. We have to think about this clearly. The. The.

[B]

This is a good. Actually. Maybe a Suzuki.

[A]

No. Come on, stop guessing. These are bad guesses. You need to dig deep.

[B]

Like a O5. Suzuki.

[A]

No.

[C]

No, no, no, no.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

All right, fine.

[A]

I'm gonna think on it.

[B]

We're thinking.

[A]

All right. Now, this happened again in the next day at this. Oh, I'm sorry. Now, this happened again the next day.

[B]

I didn't even get the model.

[A]

I don't even know what's going on, like, at this point. Well, we don't know that. We might have. We just said specific, you know, versions of the model makes. At this point, I started to stop and look around and ponder and pray and then keep walking. By the fourth day and this same experience happened, I came to a very obvious conclusion. That it is a house. When I got near this house on my prayer walk, the feelings of fear, pain, grief, torment, suffering, destitution. Like someone trapped in a cage crying for help, like abused children, like the worst feelings of hell I could imagine. I didn't have clarity, but it was obviously suffering, and it was manifest. I felt it. It was not delusion. It was real. What in the world do I do with that? I had no idea. So when I would go on my walks and go by this house, I would do what I normally did. Cry. Experience the feelings of suffering.

[B]

Who is this? Daddy Prophet.

[A]

Daddy Prophet, buddy, is really, really. The suffering and pain and intercede to God for deliverance. And externally, the home looked normal. There were no signs. Daddy Profit.

[B]

Buddy, do you drive a Hyundai Elantra? I just feel like you give me Elantra.

[A]

Elantra. Energy. What's that mean?

[B]

It means what I'm reading. No, back to Nancy.

[A]

Do you drive a Volkswagen Beetle?

[B]

No.

[A]

No.

[B]

Do you. Do you drive a Ford Focus? The older one, Prius? No.

[A]

All right, I'm just saying now.

[B]

No, the Prius is. She's not gonna drive a Pre. Oh, she's probably like Nancy's Very.

[A]

Is it a broom, Nancy?

[B]

She's not answering.

[A]

Oh, I like that one. Neff blacksmith says Nissan Altima, but that's much more of a drug dealer's car. Are you driving an Altima?

[B]

No, she's driving a Toyota. It's a Toyota type. Either a Camry or a Corolla. A Corolla. I could see her in a Corolla.

[A]

You say Corolla, I'm gonna say a Nissan Sentry. Nancy.

[B]

No, no, no to all these things.

[A]

Yes. Do you take the bus, Nancy?

[C]

No, I have a car.

[A]

All right. Thought we were just.

[B]

Thank God.

[A]

It was about to be like, we.

[B]

Gotta kick her off this show.

[A]

All right, all right. Where were we? Okay, so I had no. What would I do with that? I had no idea. So when I would go on my walks by this house, I would do what I normally did. Cry. Experience the feelings of suffering and pain and intercede to God for deliverance. And externally, the home looked normal. And there was no signs of anyone living there, per se. No cars outside, no lights, but the grass never appeared. Overgrown. I didn't stalk the house, honestly.

[B]

It's.

[A]

That's a qualifier.

[B]

This one here for sure. Decommissioned cop car.

[A]

Oh, yeah. She got it at one of those auctions.

[B]

She brought it at an auction. There's been a dead body in it.

[A]

Yeah, for sure. But she likes that.

[B]

Yeah, she's like. She asked, has there been a murder in this car? And they said, no. She said, next car there be a murder in this car.

[A]

You guys change that. Is it a. Is it a. Did you buy it from auction? Is it a decommissioned police car?

[C]

No, but I would.

[A]

Oh. What is it? I don't know. It's gonna drive me crazy. Is it newer?

[B]

Is it of this century?

[C]

It's not new.

[A]

Okay, all right, all right.

[B]

Okay, fine.

[A]

All right. God, she is full of secrets.

[B]

Can't with this one.

[A]

Okay, so I didn't stalk the house, but it was in my neighborhood, and this experience made me keep watch on it as I drove by or whatever. Nancy drives a hearse like.

[B]

Nancy. How close are you. How close are you to the steering wheel when you're driving?

[A]

Oh, are you like a. Like a really close? Like, I'm a close.

[B]

You probably are.

[A]

You like. I keep a two hands on it.

[B]

This is how I adjust my seat. I click the bottom, and as far back as it'll go.

[A]

That's very Puerto Rican New York of you.

[B]

And I reach.

[A]

Not me. Dude. Dude.

[B]

Do one of those.

[A]

What do you. Are you. Are you a Reacher, are you real close?

[B]

I say she's close.

[A]

Close.

[B]

I guess she's close. Nancy. The non descript answers are disturbing.

[A]

She's really driving me nuts here. Let's see. Oh, I lost my spot. So I would watch it as I drove by. Now, as time progressed, I increased in fellowship with the community. I gradually made a name for myself. Not intentionally, but I was full of love and zeal and I studied the scriptures like an obsessed person. And people honored me. But I truly don't know what I was doing anymore than the next person. Just going after God as best I knew. Then things started to happen. Spiritual warfare I didn't know how to combat. I got an image of my shins exposed and I knew the devil was trying to attack me, that my feet may slip. I had no.

[B]

You usually keep your shins covered or something.

[A]

You have your shins exposed quite often. And the devil pursues them.

[B]

I got shins of steel, baby.

[A]

He's just looking at him constantly. I got an image of my shins exposed. I. I no longer have a way to stand. That was the impression that he got. And the scriptures.

[B]

Yeah, you rarely wear shorts. When I do see your shins, they're very stumped. Like Olga ogle, like legs.

[A]

That's not true. I have great legs. Nice.

[B]

They're just.

[A]

I don't wear stumpy shorts on this show because my shorts are short. I'm not a knee hider. I'm a knee and then some exposure. And what happens is when you sit down, they rise up. And people, once they get a gander of these thighs, up they go. Rise up.

[B]

Then on your knees, you rise up.

[A]

No. And once that. Once they see my. My thighs, it, it would be problematic. Distracting is a way to put it. So no, I don't. I don't wear shorts on the show because it would just be.

[B]

We're so wrong with our. So apparently Scott knows what she drives, but we're so wrong with our guesses. It's hilarious.

[A]

Literally just slapped myself in my remaining testicle when I did that.

[B]

Why don't you do your own podcast where you guess people's cars?

[A]

Oh, how about that?

[B]

That's it. You just, you, you invite the guest on and they go, what was this? What's the show? What's the topic? And you go, I'm gonna guess your car. And when it's over, it's over. It could be. It could win or no.

[A]

Oh, you go until you nail it.

[B]

Give me three minutes. You do an intro. Join the. You look so Cross eyed, join the Patreon. And then boom, once you guess it, it's over. Like, that's the show. Thank you. Yeah, we'll see you later.

[A]

You know what's really odd is like, how come you can go cross eyed but you can't go walleye? Like you cross your eyes, you know, but you can't do it that way.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, well, the woman seemed to be doing that lately.

[A]

Yeah. Maybe it's fear.

[B]

Fear not. All right, let's keep reading.

[A]

Where am I?

[B]

Next day, praying and walking, similar thing happened.

[A]

Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I'm way down here. People loved me because I was filled with zeal.

[B]

I don't know what that means.

[A]

So Satan was gonna eat my shins, and I was no longer gonna have a way to stand. And the scriptures became an affliction to me. Oh, all the verses. A strong rebuke came directed at me. And where Paul teaches that the law no longer has dominion. The New Testament became like a trap. And what was intended for consolation and discernment became torment. Huh. Temptations enveloped my thinking. I had been free from pornography and drinking and everything one normally escapes from for Christ. But self hatred became a companion. When tempted, I would hit myself in the face. Yes. Like a lunatic. For sake. Hoping that somehow this pain would keep me from the allurements of the flesh. Whoa. Thoughts of suicide would abound.

[B]

Were you wearing sackcloth?

[A]

What were you wearing when these thoughts came on you?

[B]

No, for that. Is that why they wear it?

[A]

I guess I thought you were making a rape joke.

[B]

John the Baptist wearing sackcloth or. I think a lot. Elish Elijah wearing sackcloth. And Elisha after him. It's like. Like it's a very uncomfortable. It's like camel fur.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it's meant.

[A]

Supposed to suck.

[B]

It's supposed to suck. Yeah.

[A]

Punching in your face sucks. Not even my own thoughts. Not even my own thoughts. But I remember one time sitting in the back of a church of church with just the image.

[B]

They got it.

[A]

What is it? No way.

[B]

Is this it, Nancy? Corvette. No.

[A]

You drive it. A Corvette?

[C]

No.

[B]

Okay, we'll keep thinking. I saw. I saw a Corvette with condo element.

[C]

No.

[B]

Yeah, that was. That was close. Yeah. Feel it. I saw a Corvette. Powder blue, mustard yellow stripes.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Yep. In the parking lot at. At Target. I actually made a loop again.

[A]

Took a on it.

[B]

I looked back. I was like, no way.

[A]

No.

[B]

And it wasn't. It didn't have the red inside. But I was like, what an. Why would they make this car?

[A]

They're like fool me once. Oh, that's a great guess. Curtis V says Dodge neon.

[C]

No.

[A]

Ooh, PT Cruiser is also a great guess.

[C]

No, I'll tell you guys after the show.

[A]

No, don't tell us.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

But then things started to happen. I don't know if this is even where I'm at. No, I'm. I'm so lost. Dude, hold on a second. Okay, so I was in the back of the church and I was sitting there, and an image of a gun to my head was in my and others would pray for me, but it seemed to only be a momentary relief. All that to say, I began to be less concerned with holiness as my efforts for perfection seemed futile. But God's grace seemed to be within me. I would go on drives and listen to my old hipster favorites that I had discarded since coming to God. It seemed he wanted me to know he was with me in everything, even in the weird and different music I liked. In the midst of these struggles, I found myself watching movies again. And I came upon one in particular. Snowpiercer. Oh, I've seen that movie.

[B]

That's a good one. Yeah, they're on the train.

[A]

Yeah, pretty. Pretty good movie. This may have been six months to a year since I encountered what I am now calling the Hell House. And nothing had come of my feelings, and I kind of moved on in other in life. Other than sparingly nagging. Other than a sparingly nagging feeling. Who wants to leave a tormented house like that alone with no change ever occurring? I could walk by it and test it out and. Yep, still feels like hell. Whatever it was, the. It was beginning. I was beginning to become apathetic. I wanted to serve God and help build his church. But it was like God said, hey, I don't need your help building my church.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

So I'm watching Snowpiercer, and at some point, I'm very intrigued by this story. I'm pulled into it and my heart starts to race. For the sake of clarity, in case you or others haven't seen, it's Snowpocalypse. Yeah, that's a good way of putting it. Only people alive are on this train going around the world. Imagine a train with a cast system. Trash people at the bottom, wizard of Oz, train conductor at the top, Soylent green style. The food is black paste to be discovered, ground up cockroaches. What they thought could be deliverance for one child turned out to be slavery. What they thought was the only way of survival turned out to be the Fears of men. And eventually the main character escapes the train and returns to the earth. My heart pounded. I did not know why, but my heart was racing. Thoughts were racing in my head. I had to go for a walk. I went for the walk and started praying. Walked by the house. Yeah, whatever. And I'm really just buzzing. I'm wrestling with my own inadequacy. I would listen to Adrian Rogers talk about how he decapitated. Oh, I'm sorry. He dedicated to God to tell at least one person the gospel every day. And I thought maybe I could just ask one person a day if they knew the gospel. And I decided, yes, I would try this. And I did for one week. Ended up in Colorado and asked a boy with a cross around his neck if he knew the gospel. Poor guy was so excited to tell me, thinking I didn't know it, but I just couldn't muster the courage to try to evangelize in a normal way or the way people portrayed sharing the gospel. But it worked out, and he thanked me after telling me the gospel and said, now I know I should go into seminary. He literally made his college decision because a random stranger came up to him and asked him if he knew the gospel.

[B]

That's what we were talking about yesterday about. Not necessarily. It's not just the gospel, but sometimes you just let that other person talk. Like, you just ask them a question, and then sometimes they answer their own questions. Or sometimes you could nudge certain ways, right? You let them go. Let them, like, roll out their. Their yarn bowl and see what they. They got going on.

[A]

But I'm still walking around and praying and thinking that it's a good plan for evangelism and thinking over scriptures. And something comes over me regarding the sons of God. I'm getting thoughts that I am God's son and the voices of heresy are screaming. But I'm feeling enlightened. I'm on drugs. Oh, like, I'm like, I'm on drugs. Elation about being a son of God, like, firepower is on me, dude. I get home and I'm done. I get in my car and pull up to this house, this freaking hell house. I don't know what I'm going to do, but I have to do something.

[B]

So he immediately drives. Damn.

[A]

This dude is, like, intense.

[B]

This dude is an intense dude.

[A]

I'm sitting in the driveway. No signs of anyone home. Just praying.

[B]

Nancy, is your car. Is your car stolen?

[A]

Ooh, no.

[B]

Okay. All right. Never mind. I thought maybe, right. Could have been.

[A]

Is it like, okay, all right. Here, let's narrow it down. Is it American?

[B]

Does it have four wheels?

[A]

No, let's just say that. Is it American?

[C]

No.

[A]

Okay, all right, done.

[B]

It's a Honda. Well, driving a cr. She's driving a crv, probably.

[A]

She's lying.

[B]

She doesn't even need to drive a crv because she doesn't have. Like. She's like, I want.

[A]

Wait, Nancy, she's been in the military, right? She lives out in the desert. Maybe she's got an affinity for something a little bit, not just gay. Like a sedan. Although, you know, I'm sorry, if you do have a sedan. I don't mean it's gay. I drive a sedan. But, like, is it a Tacoma?

[C]

No, I used to have one.

[A]

Oh, okay. That's interesting. Interesting. Oh, my God. No, no, no.

[B]

It's not a Jeep Wrangler.

[A]

That's. That's American. Okay. I get an image of, like, chariots and angels and things, grayscale. But it's like freaking reinforcement. Troops of the heavenly variety. I don't know, but I'm struck by the fact that they are behind me. They are behind me. It's up to me to move. Damn. I get out of the car, I'm praying. I'm nervous, my heart pounding. I thank God for his light. I walk up to the front door. I'm quiet. Standing in the front of the door and just praying. I don't know what to do. About to turn around. Nope. I step up, I put my hand on the door, and I pray. Now, right when I put my hand on the door, what happens is a very loud, loud sound erupts from the house. A dog or dogs barking. I mean, right.

[B]

Abandoned house?

[A]

No, just haunted house. Like, it just get. He just gets really horrifying feelings of, like, captives.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Every time he passes by the house, it sounds to me like what he's alluding to is, like, this is one of those situations where, like, somebody's in the basement type of deal. So as soon as he puts his hand on the door, the dogs instantly start barking from the house. Like, right when he puts his hand on the door, the loudest, most aggressive growling bark erupts from inside the house. I thought no one was home. I'm a crazy person praying over a house I know nothing about. And so I emphasize that I didn't make much sound, but I'm sorry. It was my hand touching the door. I broke a boundary or something, and something did not like it at all. And it screamed at me in the voice of dogs. Oh, dog. Man, I had no context for those things at the time. Nor underground tunnels, nor covert trafficking, all of which I now suspect. But I got out of there. The sound surprised me enough that whatever was getting me all riled up had passed, and I just left in wonderment and hope that I did the right thing. And since that time, the feelings of grief and sorrow when walking by the house slowly faded. Whether I did something for someone, I don't know. But I certainly did something. And that's the hell house. Sorry for my grandma. Egg 7 Negroes.

[B]

What the hell does that mean?

[A]

Sorry for my grandma.

[B]

Is that a spell?

[A]

Did you just cast a spell on this dog? I have no idea.

[B]

I have no idea what that means. Nancy, can you provide any insight on that?

[A]

Did we miss something? Nancy, did he just cast a spell on us?

[C]

No.

[B]

Not gonna explain. Just. No.

[A]

Well, she knows.

[B]

No. What?

[A]

She knows we did. She knows what it means.

[C]

It was a yes or no question.

[A]

That's true.

[B]

So he did not. But I don't know what that last one means.

[A]

Egg seven. What the hell was the last thing? Egg seven Negro.

[B]

Egg seven Negroes. Sorry for my grandma.

[A]

Oh, sorry for my grammar. It's a. It's a joke. We just. We're about to spiral and what does.

[B]

Egg 7 Negroes mean?

[A]

Egg 7 Negroes. Egg 7. Egg 7 Negro.

[B]

I don't know what any of this.

[A]

Oh, Egg 7Z, man. Damn. This guy hit us with the most cryptic.

[B]

Got you.

[A]

Yeah, okay.

[B]

Very cool.

[A]

Sorry, we're just a little bit sketched out. You got to be careful with us.

[B]

Yeah, dude, I'm super sketched out.

[A]

Yep. So I had a moment like that once and it's something that I don't know, that I've talked about on this. I haven't talked about it on the show in a while, but I was at work one day and there was a homeless encampment next to my job. So the place that I worked right before I started doing the show full.

[B]

Time, I remember this. Yeah.

[A]

Oh, snap, I gotta sneeze.

[B]

He's gonna do it.

[A]

Okay. There's no lights up there. It's ruined. Ruined because there's no lights up there. Anyway, so I'm working, I'm like grinding something or whatever, and I can hear that the homeless encampment next to my job has got a dog now. And. And I just remember thinking like, that's not cool. You know, I. I don't like when homeless people have dogs. I mean, it's kind of a double edged sword because I get you Want companionship. You're. You're sad. But like, the homeless people out here aren't really homeless because they lost their job.

[B]

They don't deserve dogs is what you're saying.

[A]

Correct. And so I thought it was. I thought it was messed up. And so one day I noticed that I just didn't hear the dog anymore. And I go, that's weird. Like, what the hell? And this is over the span of like a week. And then eventually I do hear like a crack. Like the crack of a round going off.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[A]

But it was like early in the morning and a lot of other people weren't there. I think I was the only guy in the shop at the time because he used to get there earlier than everybody else. So I can get out earlier than everybody else. And so I, I start getting kind of like obsessive in my mind of like, you know, I haven't heard that dog in a while. Like, after I hear that round crack off and I start to just think in my mind, I draw this correlation. We, like, they shot the dog, right. And so one day I used to leave for lunch and I would walk to a thrift store that was like down the street and just to get a little walk on lunch. And. And I'm walking by and. And something just is like, drawing me to this creek that runs parallel to the sidewalk that I. I walk on. So the, the entire walk to the thrift shop, there was a creek running parallel for the whole length of it. It's not a long walk. It's like a, you know, seven minute walk. And the creek's there the whole time. And I'm kind of that weird dude where, like, I will go on a lunch break and I'll find a creek to sit by.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

You know, like, I will leave. Everybody else will get together and have lunch together and shoot the. I will leave off by myself. I'll find like, the woods. I've done that always. Like, I'll find a nice place to stare at the water. And so this isn't really like out of the norm for me, but I feel drawn to this creek and I'm walking by it and I kind of notice that there's a black garbage bag sitting in the middle of the creek. And immediately my mind goes like, the dog's in that bag and. But I can't get to it. And so I, I kind of leave it alone. And then on the way back from the thrift shop, I can't help it, I go and I, I look again and I'm like, that bag is just like really sitting in this creek, calling me. This creek is shallow, you know, maybe this deep or something like that. So, you know, you step in it, the mud's gonna take you. But the water is really not that deep at all. But the way this bag is pinned down in the water, I'm like, something heavy is in there. I make note of it. I continue my walk over the next, like, couple of days. And then I start noticing a really heavy smell of death. And it's always right when I pass that bag. Now I'm getting like, obsessed. Haven't heard that dog. And the homeless encampment just has a weird vibe coming from it. And there's like a lot of tension. I'll hear them screaming at each other like they're about to get into a fight. And then like they, you know, they won't get into a fight, but I'm like, they're getting tense out there, you know? And one day I just have enough. I come back to my shop, I still have enough time on break. I fish around. There's got to be some plywood. There is. I literally grab the plywood over my head and I walk down the street.

[B]

He's that dude.

[A]

I am. And I put the plywood in the water. It doesn't make it all the way. I still like get, you know, up to almost my, like my mid shin in mud trying to get to it, but. But I. I grab that bag and I go to tug on it and I. And I'm like, yeah, there's something in here, dude, there's something heavy in here. So I drag the bag onto the grass and I give it a little tear and I could see fur. And I'm like, son of a man, they killed this dog. So I call the non emergency line. They tell me they're dispatching like animal control. And I gotta stand there. So I stand there, lady comes over and I'm like, nosy, right? So I'm like, you know, it was.

[B]

This thing like raven narc on the.

[A]

Hobo I did, dude. So. So I go, you know, I want to know. And she's just like, yeah, let's take it over here and find out. And I'm like, oh, what? Like she's actually gonna show me, you know, so she brings it back to my job because that was the nearest parking lot for her truck. And she rips it open and she's mulling over it and she's like, it doesn't look like it's been shot. So I don't know if they ever shot it, if they choked the thing, whatever, like, but they were. I just remember hearing it bark so much that I was like, I bet you it's pissing those people off, and they don't know how to deal with it. You know what I mean? So dog has no bullet wound, but then because the dog was, you know, found.

[B]

Nancy, what's that say?

[A]

What's that say?

[C]

I don't know.

[B]

All right, keep your secrets. I think she knows. Go ahead.

[A]

They launched an investigation. Long story short, there's a dead guy in there.

[B]

It was a guy.

[A]

There was a dude in there. In the homeless encampment. They shot and killed one of their fellow.

[B]

That's right. I forgot this story. It's a good story.

[A]

Yeah. One of their fellow dudes.

[B]

So how'd the dog die?

[A]

Who knows? Could have been dude killed the dog, and they killed him for killing the dog. You don't know what the hell happened. But I'm telling you, like, the feeling of fear and anger was pouring off that place, and I was just being nagged. Nag to go and see this. Let me tell you. Afterwards, they cleared out that encampment. And so, of course, as soon as they did. I've got to go now and see what's up. And it just reeked of darkness in there. There was, like, several different areas in the woods where they were gathering into their own little sub camps, and. And they had all been cleared out of there, but a lot of their debris was left behind. And you could just feel it like there was something really. But they.

[B]

There's a murder across from your. Your. Your, like, house.

[A]

Which one?

[B]

Right in the community. In the field. They're building another community. It's, like, down. Going towards Sumter from you. Yeah, just cops in there in the field. They found a body that's been decaying for a while.

[A]

On 441.

[B]

No, 66.

[A]

66. That's interesting. Yeah. I don't know, man, but that. That whole. What is the darkness? It wasn't that the darkness smelled like anything. It was just like it felt the heaviness. It felt like I was in a spooky place. Like, when I was in that. It's only a small, short walk because sometimes I could see them through the trees. I'd be in the back doing something. I had a painting booth out there. So after I was finished welding something, I take it back there, I'd start painting it, and I'd be able to just turn around, and I'D see them. I could hear their conversation. That's how close they were to me. And so the only thing that separated me from them was the tree line. A little bit of a hop and a skip into the woods and you're in there and it felt like a different. You're in the woods canopy and there. There's like a spooky haunted feeling. So. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. So no. So your dog investigation led to a dead vagrant whom no one cared enough to drag away from camp. And now those homeless have no way home. Way to go, David. What happened?

[A]

Did they.

[B]

I mean, they're never going to find anybody. They cleared them out and they're just gone.

[A]

I don't think they bought. There's no. There's nobody to persecute or anything like that. There's no. They're not going to laws anymore. You launch a forensic investigation, it's just another dead hobo. And they just tell them like, clear out.

[B]

This is. This is what horrifies me about. Well, what you did yesterday. We're not going to mention on the show the. That body, Matt's friend that just gets shot. It's like, that body.

[A]

What did I do?

[B]

We'll talk about it after. We'll tell Nancy after, when she will trade information. We'll end the show in five minutes or less than that. But.

[A]

But I bought more stuff for my gun.

[B]

No, I'll tell you, the body was so badly decomposed. That's like a cross from your area that I'm like, I immediately like, we read the story and I was like, they'll never find who did that. It's like just the elements alone.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Of like, it's crazy how many unsolved murders there are. Like, we think that these things get solved. They don't. It's.

[A]

No, no, definitely not. Like I said, they didn't. They just told them to disperse and that was it. I'm glad though, that it went down that way, because I'm there. Well, check this out. So I worked at a steel shop.

[B]

Cameras look really good today. Gotta say, they do. We dialed it in, baby.

[A]

I worked at a steel shop and there's a homeless encampment next to it. And my boss, who is a lovely dude, awesome guy and a real good dude, but I disagreed wholeheartedly with this decision, literally told them one day, if you ever need anything, feel free to come over here. It's okay. Like, he basically told them, we're not going to be alarmed if we find you on the property.

[B]

That's a mistake.

[A]

There's no fence separating us from them.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Just a tree line. And the way it's set up is like nobody would. Nobody could see. I. I had shown up some mornings and like, they were just here. I can feel that they were just here.

[B]

The stank, the grease.

[A]

It's just like, you just know because the place hasn't woken up yet. You know, I show up at like 6:00 in the morning. Everybody else showed up at like 9.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Florida is like real weird. They're just starting late and. And I could tell when I'm the first person there. And this place hasn't woken up yet. And then there's other times when I've showed up and I'm like, feels like people have already been here. And I don't know how to explain that. It just feels like it. They're homeless. This is a steel shop. There's aluminum, there's stainless, copper.

[B]

Deal S T E A L Exactly.

[A]

So. So. And I even asked him about that. I said, hey, you don't get the impression they've been stealing from us? And he goes, if they do, they need it more than I do. And I'm like, that's great. But I'm here alone in the morning and I'm always strapped. I was strapped at work. It wasn't a big deal in that way, but like, I don't want to kill. So when they left, I was like, good, man. Because there was times, that place, now that I come to think about it too, that place was really weird.

[B]

You could feel them looking at you.

[A]

I was constantly seeing shadows. I would be welding and I stopped me, like, what the was that? And I'd lift my shield up and there's like, nobody there. But I felt like I just saw somebody run by all the time. All the time, all the time. And so I'm on edge for like three hours before my boss and everybody else shows up. So yeah, man. When I cleared that homeless camp, when I cleared that homeless camp out, I felt a lot better because, you know, they killed a dog, they killed a dude.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You think they're not going to come by and steal some scrap?

[B]

They killed it. Like, yeah, they're killing people.

[A]

They're screaming at each other in the morning like they're about to fist fight.

[B]

It really is like, I don't know, people think that we're really civilized like this, like, oh, this is a super civilized place. And that stuff happens. Like where I used to live, under the boardwalk, they'd just be there Every so often, a dead body, and then people will go. As a matter of fact, one of my friends was swimming in the Sea Gate. I don't know if you remember where Seagate is.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

In the Seagate part of the beach. And he's like. He's a lifeguard. He's swimming, and he grabs. And it's just the whole body. It's a head. The person's head. They take it out. Yeah, yeah. And it's just like, who was that? It's like nobody's ever figured it out.

[A]

That's gnarly.

[B]

Some dude's just missing.

[A]

That's gnarly. Yeah. Well, when you have an overwhelming homeless population like that, I mean, obviously the city has that society has a thin veneer over absolute chaos. Agreed.

[B]

That's what it is.

[A]

Agreed. The area that I lived in, that Port Richie areas, Tampa Bay, there's a real serious homeless problem out there. That's one thing that I hadn't seen back where I was from was, like, you get homeless people, but these are homeless encampments. Encampments. So every patch of forest. Like, I remember walking one day on my lunch break, as I often did, and I had to piss, and I see, like, a patch of woods, which was not uncommon in that area. So I walk up into the patch of woods, I start pissing, and I realize, like, oh, I'm right next to an encampment, and these dudes just get up and just stand up and stare at me.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

And I'm just finishing pissing, and I'm looking at them, and they're looking at me, and I shake my. And I turn around and walk away. But, like, they're staring at me as if I am on their property.

[B]

Let's end the show because I really do want to tell you what you. What you forgot. All right, guys, it's been another great episode. We'll see in a few minutes. Or if you're not watching in time, we'll see you next time on another episode of Dragon Build the Squad. The greatest hypnotist on planet Earth is a oblong box in the corner of the room. It is constantly telling us what to believe is real. You can persuade this that what they see with their eyes is what there is to see. The face of an explanation that portrays.

[A]

The bigger picture of possible.

[B]

And they have.